Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long
Pål you miss my point. When Medium format gave a huge advantage in quality over the output from 35mm I would agree. The difference in output between the MF digital and 35mm full frame digital is bound to be much lower. The pixel density of the Pentax won't lead to that much of an improvement in noise over the 35mm sized sensor. I haven't done the math, and there may be counter intuitive results, but I don't think so. Canon's fast glass may not be as good wide open as the Pentax 645 glass. On the other hand they are certainly superior at any aperture wider than 2.8 Pål Jensen wrote: Peter wrote: No matter what Pål believes about the relative equality between Pentax 645 lenses, in cost and capabilities, and Canon L lenses. There is at least one important aspect where the 645 lenses fall short, speed. You don't see too many Pentax Medium format f2.8 zooms. or for that matter f2 or faster primes. That alone will put the the 11mp Pentax 645D at a competitive disadvantage with the Canon 16mp EOS based DSLR. Pentax will see the writing on the wall cut their losses and not ever release it. That's bad enough. REPLY: The lack of fast lenses for medium format (film) didn't stop MF in being a viable alternative. The fact is that fast lenses isn't needed. Using 1000ISO slide film an a 645 gives equal result as 100ISO slide film in a 35mm camera with a fast lens. Granted, you won't get the MF advantage but you are not handicapped. For digital the relations will be similar. Besides, high-quality digital will probably be prefered for nature/outdoor and studio use where lens speed isn't that important. Often, faster lenses are less desireable for hese purposes due to lower optical quality and more flare. Pål -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long
Yep, that's true, if the intended audience still has those lenses. Look at the relatively low prices on used medium format gear lately. There's a huge supply, probably from all those pros who realized that they could get by with FF 35mm for quality. If I had a few of those lenses I'd be happy, if I'd already dumped them I wouldn't be re-acquiring them. Pentax may be making a bunch of hobbyists who've decided to acquire an inexpensive 645 system very happy. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long Pentax will have to be clearly superior, I don't think they will be, maybe better, but not enough to make anyone change systems. If you already have a load of 645 lenses, an 18mp digital body might be a nice accessory. William Robb -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
RE: PDML IS ALIVE (was:Re: Why and How...etc)
Hi, If/When we ever meet face to face, I'll buy you one. that's very kind of you. Cotty needs a new face. g Bob (haven't used a Pentax for years)
Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long Yep, that's true, if the intended audience still has those lenses. Look at the relatively low prices on used medium format gear lately. Yup. I was planning on selling my 6x7 gear to Cakalic for loads of money, and then retiring. Won't happen now. I'll keep the stuff for what it'll fetch on the market. William Robb
Re: PDML IS ALIVE (was:Re: Why and How...etc)
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: PDML IS ALIVE (was:Re: Why and How...etc) Hi, If/When we ever meet face to face, I'll buy you one. that's very kind of you. Cotty needs a new face. You are being very kind. William Robb
Re: Moral Dilemma
On 5/3/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: particularly observant, you may need a little black electrical tape to cover up the *ist-D logo. I believe Juan may have a bit of black tape left over that he could lend Shaun... Sure. But it's *gaffers* tape, not electrical tape! Shaun, as others said, there isn't enough data to give an opinion. However, I wonder: why do you have a camera if you're not going to take it with you on trips? j -- Juan Buhler - SIGGRAPH 2005 http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com
Re: Moral Dilemma
fra: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. I am really confused Ignore it, but don't bring a lot of lenses etc. Use it to take a cute picture of your son, and she'll probably forgive you. If she dont, tell her that when she chose a guy with a camera she'll have to accept the consequences. DagT
Re: Moral Dilemma
From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/03 Tue PM 11:25:29 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Moral Dilemma We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. I am really confused I am really curious about her reasoning. :-) Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: PDML IS ALIVE
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/03 Tue PM 11:25:44 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML IS ALIVE On 5/3/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's actually a benign dictatorship. Second best form of government. I agree, a benign dictatorship (with the right dictator) is great. Only problem is picking a successor once (s)he's gone. However, this leads to a couple of obvious questions, such as: Who's our dictator? And, That should be obvious. What's the best form of government? Not getting suckered in to that one 8-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Feeling inadequate (was: Why and How I switched to Canon)
Light it and kill the fire - the firebrigade is only interested in having the zero. The 1 is when its burning. As in all photography to expose or not to expose is the question cit. Pamphlet Ronald P. J. Alling wrote Tue, 03 May 2005 19:41:21 -0700 Isn't it difficult to find binary Kerosene? Shel Belinkoff wrote: I don't have RAID and my computer is kerosene powered. Shel [Original Message] From: Rob Studdert On 3 May 2005 at 21:22, Herb Chong wrote: i have much more than Paul has, 1.2 terabyte RAID array. My server RAID is only 0.75TB :-(
Re: RE: Hello and Sensor cleaning
From: McRae, Max MS [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was told that it would be done to food quality standards, so expected total cleanliness. You've never worked in the food industry have you? mike who remembers being told to shovel stuff off the floor to go into Walls' pies... - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: PESO - Pardosa Portrait
Frank, the ring is the reflexion of my selfmade LED-light made out of 30 LEDs (1 mcandela each). It is great for focusing since the lens works only with preset aperture and on f8 one sees almost nothing since beyond 1:1 the effective aperture is much higher. Thanks for your comments and best regards, Hans. On 4/29/05, Hans Imglueck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, something for dark eyes and long leg lovers: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3319281 Comments are welcome! Reminds me of my ex-wife! LOL Seriously, Hans, cool shot! Is that a ring flash reflected in the eyes? Or are those actually a part of its eyes? I like the effect, whatever it is. That is one mother of a macro photo, I must say. Tremendous work!! cheers, frank cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- Hans Imglueck +++ Neu: Echte DSL-Flatrates von GMX - Surfen ohne Limits +++ Always online ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl
PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II
Hi, one more try to convince everybody of the beauty of small many legged animals: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3327021 Again several shots (~4) overlaid and used LED-light clearly visible in some of the eyes. Best regards, -- Hans Imglueck +++ Lassen Sie Ihren Gedanken freien Lauf... z.B. per FreeSMS +++ GMX bietet bis zu 100 FreeSMS/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail
Re: LONDON PDML - final update
On 3/5/05, Cesar, discombobulated, unleashed: Just keep the welcome mat out for whenever I make it :-) It's etched in snakeskin :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Life, the List and Everything (was: attitude)
On 3/5/05, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: My Linux server at work is named pentaxian.office.###.com I have no intention of renaming it. Mad as a March hare. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Moral Dilemma
On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed: We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. I am really confused So am I. You're Strine and *she* makes the decisions??? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Moral Dilemma
On 4/5/05, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, unleashed: We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. Actually, I can relate to the above. Reminds me of my first wife. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II
From: Hans Imglueck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/04 Wed AM 07:46:44 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II Hi, one more try to convince everybody of the beauty of small many legged animals: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3327021 Again several shots (~4) overlaid and used LED-light clearly visible in some of the eyes. Interesting technique; how do you get it [her 8-)] to stay so still? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
OT: Re: trying to answer Mark ROberts email....
Ann Sanfedele wrote: Mark - I'm not sure if it is a bug or what but I can't answer your off-list mail about our GFM plans for some reason your server thinks I'm spam :( Ann - don't take it personally; Mark's server seems to think that everyone's email is spam unless he specifically tells it otherwise. Unfortunately, you have to email him to get the problem resolved. ;-) S
Re: Life, the List and Everything
On May 4, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Heck, both my home PC and office PC are named Pentax ;). My Linux server is called smurf. That's because I painted its front panel dark blue several years ago (the rest is black). It looks a bit nicer than the original beige. The Mac is called garfield to keep with the big-cat theme. When I was a kid I spent my lawn mowing money on Garfield books. I still have them today but I no longer get paid for mowing the lawn. My h/w development machine (also Linux) is called mayhem after Project Mayhem from the movie Fight Club. There are more but you get the idea - I don't have any kind of consistent naming scheme. I'm planning to buy a Powerbook soon... I was going to keep with the Garfield theme and call it Nermal but thought it'd be too girly. I might call it 'scratch' instead as that'd be a good cat name. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: Moral Dilemma
Joe, you're goodvery good! Obviously significant amounts of practice gone into your reasoning Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:03 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma Henri: Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping. Godfrey: Do what you want. Deal with the consequences. Both experienced husbands, I expect. As another such, I suspect she is concerned that you will spend time taking pictures rather than with her and the baby. Tell her you want the best possible pictures of the three of you together on vacation, and only photos from the *ist D will have digital longevity so that the three of you can look at them together, over and over, in the years to come, and you and she can share the photos with your grandchildren, etc. Photos taken on any lesser camera just won't last. Remember, Pentax is for your special moments. Joe
RE: Moral Dilemma
Nah, he's too damn cute, and can pull more women than I ever could Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:54 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:03:13PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote: Henri: Take it anyway, give her the creditcard and tell her to go shopping. Godfrey: Do what you want. Deal with the consequences. Both experienced husbands, I expect. Tell her you'll leave the *ist-D at home if she leaves the baby at home ...
RE: Moral Dilemma
Take it lie a man Boris, lie down and cry right now Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 12:41 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma Hi! We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. 6. Choose just one lens, the most sturdy one. Attach it to the camera. Pack the camera as deep as you can. Your wife is up to surprise. You can probably buy spare batteries on location. Few memory cards can be conveniently hidden in your wallet. 7. Try to convince her she's wrong about 1. 8. Divorce 9. See if you can buy another D or Ds on location. Pre-order one to have it delivered to your hotel or wherever you'd be staying. She'd be up for a way bigger surprise. 10. If you have another digi camera at home challenge your wife to take better pictures during location. You bring your piece, she brings hers. If she wants, you can always buy another D/Ds to even the odds. 11. Don't throw a tantrum! Boris P.S. Julia asks if she can kick my head real hard just in case...
RE: Moral Dilemma
Thank you all for your witty and obviously well practiced answers to my dilemma. I'll talk the wife around... I've managed to talk her in to everything else for the last 8 years, so I think I can manage a camera. The replies were funny though Cheers Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au
Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Would that be any more difficult than the M24~35, FA 20~35,and other similar short focal length zooms they've already made? Making a pancake lens in that focal length range would be much more difficult. Apologies if it wasn't clear that that was what I meant. :-) S
Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS
David Oswald wrote: For us laypeople, what do you mean by a retrofocus design, and why do you say a 20 to 30mm lens would have to be that? Sorry to show my ignorance... Think about the simplest possible lens, with just a single element (eg a magnifying glass). Its focal length is the distance between the centre of the lens and the plane where it focuses light from a distant object. So a single element 20mm lens for cameras would have to be located 20mm from the film/sensor. This is impossible in an SLR camera, because this is the region where the mirror lives. To resolve the problem, lens designers use a more complex configuration of concave and convex elements (etc) to allow the lens to be moved forward out of the mirror region while maintaining a short focal length. Such lenses are known as retrofocus designs. The downside of a retrofocus design is that the size, weight and complexity of the lens increase. Lenses tend to get smaller with decreasing focal length down to around 50mm, and thereafter remain around that size or start to get larger again due to the increasing complexity required in the optical design. That's why I wait with interest to see what Pentax come up with in the way of a 20-30mm pancake. Personally I'd be quite happy with a 20mm/2.8 about the same size as the M20/4. I'd like to think that lens design techniques have improved sufficiently in the last 20 years to give the extra stop of light and reduce the distortion a little. :-) S
Re: Moral Dilemma
Shaun, If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is basically a mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting her with the kid. :-) In the long term, this will pass as the kids grow out of their diapers. In the short term, bring the camera. You must never confirm her theory that it's _either_ family _or_ camera. take ample of shots of the kid, enjoy outdoors photography while taking the lad for a stroll (especially when he sleeps in the stroller), volunteer for some (not all...) extra diaper changes, feeding, etc. To all London DPML'ers, Please don't mention this mail to Vera in the coming week-end. :-) Cheers, Jostein Quoting Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. I am really confused :-) Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Re: Moral Dilemma
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/05/04 Wed AM 09:58:46 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Moral Dilemma Shaun, If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is basically a mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting her with the kid. :-) In the long term, this will pass as the kids grow out of their diapers. In the short term, bring the camera. You must never confirm her theory that it's _either_ family _or_ camera. take ample of shots of the kid, enjoy outdoors photography while taking the lad for a stroll (especially when he sleeps in the stroller), volunteer for some (not all...) extra diaper changes, feeding, etc. To all London DPML'ers, Please don't mention this mail to Vera in the coming week-end. :-) Yy!!! Drinks are on Jostein! Cheers, Jostein Quoting Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. I am really confused :-) Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
RE: trying to answer Mark ROberts email....
-Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ack - Mark - I'm not sure if it is a bug or what but I can't answer your off-list mail about our GFM plans I have the same problem and I also cannot see his website from work. There seems to be some peculiarity about his domain. -- Peter Williams
RE: PDML at Point Pelee
Let's see if we can't find a coffee place in the M-14/I-275 area, or at least a parking lot. Mark may have a problem at the border if he admits to being professional - this will need to be recreational. Though there's a tram from the parking area to the Point, bring your walking shows, you'll be doing a lot of it!! Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:58 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML at Point Pele Hi Bill, Why don't we make it the 15th then? Is that good for Ken. Regardless of where we meet, Mark will still have to leave at the same time in order to arrive at PP at say 9AM. However, perhaps we can find somewhere to meet that's on the route from Mark's house to the bridge. I wouldn't know where that might be. Perhaps somewhere off 94 in Dearborn or thereabouts. (I assume he'll be taking 94.) Paul On May 3, 2005, at 6:30 AM, william sawyer wrote: I'm OK for either, too. How about the 15th, but meeting somewhere more to the west of the city to help Mark out? Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:32 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML at Point Pele I'm pretty sure either of those dates would work for me... Though I gotta hit the road at 4 am to get the by 7 :-\ - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: Re: PDML at Point Pele Either Sunday works for me, the 15th or the 22nd. Paul On May 2, 2005, at 8:33 PM, william sawyer wrote: I have a gig on the 21st. Sundays? Bill Sawyer Livonia, MI -Original Message- From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:17 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML at Point Pele Would really like to go but I have another event scheduled ( paid for) on the 14th. How about the next Saturday, the 21st? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: PDML at Point Pele Bill Sawyer and I were talking about a possible Detroit PDML birding trip to Canada's Point Pele. The date of May 14 has been suggested. That should be the peak of the bird migration. I know Frank and possibly some other Canadian list members had said they might be interested as well. Any takers? Of course we're hoping Ken Waller and Mark Cassino can make it.
Re: Moral Dilemma
Shaun Canning wrote: We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. I vote for proseletyzing. Buy her an Optio and turn her into a photographer too. Tom Reese
Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long
at $10KUSD for the body? Herb... - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 1:00 AM Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long If you already have a load of 645 lenses, an 18mp digital body might be a nice accessory.
Re: PESO: No Name Hotel...
Fascinating shot. Much here to look at and ponder. And the name brings enough of a suggestion to stter one's thoughts in a certain direction. Great composition, nice color. Good work. Paul
Re: My local coffee shop had a leftover copy of yesterday's New York TImes
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...so I now have my own copy of Paul Stenquist's Dream Cruise photo :) Save it for me until I get there in early June! Save it? I'm framing it! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: trying to answer Mark ROberts email....
Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ack - Mark - I'm not sure if it is a bug or what but I can't answer your off-list mail about our GFM plans the last one had this message: The following message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 554-Spamtraps don't want to talk to you - message refused. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not my email address Ann. That's why the message is being rejected. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS
On Wed, 4 May 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 3 May 2005 at 8:46, David Oswald wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. I love that lens; its focal length is great as a mild telephoto, very nice for portraits. And its so small, yields a bright viewfinder, and offers fast optics. Imagine buying an f/1.4 telephoto lens this size for a 35mm camera! A lot of us did and still do have 85/1.4s, the A series lens is amazing in all respects. Depends how you interpret this size in the original quote :-))) Kostas
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
Sorry, missed the original. On 5/1/05, Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got my K15/3.5 back from Japan for calibration and did some test on Agfa RSX II 50 which has really great colour. No more nasty blue cast like Fujichrome. :-) This looks fishy to me. http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/42779421 As in fisheye-like distortion. Can someone explain? Kostas (oh and some flare, but on a bulging-element extreme wideangle one would expect it)
Who builds the Optio 50? OEM DSLR lenses
Hi all, as a side note to digital cameras: Does Pentax build the Optio 50 on their own? I was surprised that the camera very much looks like models from premier, escpecially from the back. See e.g. http://www.premierimage.pl Looks to me as if Premier builds the Konica Minolta Dimage E40 and E50, too. I don't know about the recent cooperations of Pentax. I remember the cooperation of HP (C618, C912) and Pentax. While the 3rd party analog lenses are gone by now (such as the Cosina 100/f4 macro), there may be more and more OEM and relabel prodcuts for the digital market. Are there any 3rd party DSLR lenses behind the Pentax label? Here's a short overview of some 'Premier' models: That's the model with 5 MP (5.2 MP CCD) and 2.5 display. * Premier DS-5330 * BenQ DC E53 * Konica Minolta E50 * Maginon Slimline X5 * Minox DC 5222 * Rollei Prego dp5200 * Traveler Slimline X5 * Voigtlaender Virtus D5 The smaller version (4 MP, 2 display) matches to * Premier DS-4330 or better * Premier DS-4331 * BenQ DC E43 * Centon DC4s * Konica Minolta E40 * Minox DC 4211 * Rollei Prego dp4200 * Voigtlaender Virtus D4 Pentax Optio 50 is 5 MP, but 1.8 display only. There's no other low cost manufacturer with 2.5 display, other than Sony (but 132 000 pixels only, instead of 201 000 pixels).
Re: Thanks to Bojidar Dimitrov
As a matter of fact I did around the beginning of April. You the man Boz!! - Original Message - From: Lindamood, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:33 AM Subject: Thanks to Bojidar Dimitrov Has anyone here said thanks to Boz for his April 30 promise to keep updating his Pentax K-mount page? It's been a terrific resource for many of us for a long time, and it looks as thought he's going to keep it going for us. Thanks, Boz!
Re: Life, the List and Everything (was: attitude)
Snipped - Original Message - . The number of Pentax users in the world is smaller than Nikon or Canon, we all can agree on this (I think!), but this list is far more active than any forum for those other makes. On top of that (and trust me, I've scanned Canon forumsEESH!) the wealth of knowledge about gear and all things photographic is tremendous on this list that was created by and for people who love Pentax cameras.Christian I aggree. I have Pentax film and digital gear. I also have Nikon gear,which may be switched for Canon gear,or just plain added to the Nikon gear, and I too subscribe to Nikon and Canon groups.(EESHHH) I still use this group to ask my questions. I find it a more well rounded bunch, and there are many on this list that are willing to answer almost any cry for help,on any subject. Even some who like my picturesvbg Great list. Dave
Re: Who builds the Optio 50? OEM DSLR lenses
On 2005-05-04 12:42, Martin Trautmann wrote: Does Pentax build the Optio 50 on their own? I've found the answer on http://www.premierimage.com.tw/premiere/products/newproducts-contents-DC5345.htm The Pentax Optio 50 is the same stuff as the Premier DC-5345
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
--- Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks fishy to me. http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/42779421 As in fisheye-like distortion. Can someone explain? Maybe it's the shooting angle (pretty close to the ground) and the subject itself. I can assure you the picture was not taken with fisheye. LOL. Kostas (oh and some flare, but on a bulging-element extreme wideangle one would expect it) Most of the time I could shield the lens from flare with my left hand. Just a little unsure of myself that day so didn't try. Would love to know if the 'A' had less or no flare given the same situation. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: No Name Hotel...
Thanks for comments, Boris. --- Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! http://www.flaneur.albanogarcia.com.ar/?p=31#comments Albano, the way you named it is appropriate. And as such it works. One sits for a while thinking of the name and the view and finally kicks oneself in a forehead - oh yes! But, (as usual :) ) if you wouldn't attach a name to it, it kind of breaks apart, me so thinks. I see this building, the framing, the lines, the geometry. It evokes some emotions in me of my visits to other countries, namely US, but it ends just there... Just my cents. Boris Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PESO: No Name Hotel...
Thanks, Paul! --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating shot. Much here to look at and ponder. And the name brings enough of a suggestion to stter one's thoughts in a certain direction. Great composition, nice color. Good work. Paul Albano Garcia Photography Graphic Design http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar http://www.flaneur.com.ar __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: PDML IS ALIVE
On 5/4/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the answer is 42. It would be, if Frank knew the question to ask. You guys are making my brain hurt. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PDML IS ALIVE (was:Re: Why and How...etc)
Hear, hear! Well said, Cotty. Rick --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I just make a little point here please? I don't believe that it says anywhere on Doug's PDML.net web pages that anyone actually has to own a single piece of Pentax photographic gear to subscribe to this list. In fact, the 'About Us' page describes the subscribers as: '...we remain a loosely allied gang of threadheads, robophotographers, hobbiests, geeks, wienies, manual focusers, theorists, feature counters, psychos, purists, one large cross-dresser (that we know of) and another guy who just disagrees.' http://www.pdml.net/dbrewer/p1.html I personally think that is a very important point. There is much more to this list than just owning and using Pentax equipment. Sure, the obvious thing is that most, if not all, subscribers have, or have had, or even would like to have, Pentax gear at some point. After all, the P in 'PDML' stands for Pentax. Nobody expects contributors here to start asking what the bokeh is like on a Canon lens, or a Nikon lens, or even a Pentacon lens, that much is true. Similarly, just because a contributor decides to ditch and switch to a different brand, does not automatically mean that that person should consider their options WRT hanging around here. I can sell all my Pentax gear but actually still have an interest in it! Personally, I ditched and switched, and I'm glad I did - I wouldn't consider any of Pentax's latest digital offerings. They just don't suit me. So why do I still hang around here? Two big reasons. The first one is that believe it or not, my favourite camera of all time sits on a shelf above my desk. It does not work anymore, it certainly won't win any beauty contests, and I'll likely never put another roll of film through it again. Yet this lonely black Pentax MX represents a place and a time from years now passed - a place and time that I was very happy with. Still am. But even if I did not own this camera, I would still have the memory of it, and that is just as valid. Fond would be an understatement. My interest in it lives on. Others agree, and I can connect occasionally with those people through this PDML conduit. That's a pretty good reason to stick around. The second, and IMO most important reason, is the camaraderie. The close proximity of kindred spirits. The like-minded attitudes and crucially - the communication. This list is alive: breathing, eating, sleeping, happy, angry, sad... Hell we even know when someone's had a baby! We gather for chat and food and experiences, on list - and off. Even in this day and age, these things are pretty unique. Colleagues of mine are amazed. You're meeting up with a bunch of people you met on the internet??? Yes, well, not strictly, er, look, it's not easy to explain... This place is very special - and every single one of you reading this text - from the most prolific poster through to lurker though to the person who subscribed 5 minutes ago (and is about to unsubscribe with 10Mb of digest attached) - all of you are the reason why. There are no rules here. It's almost a perfect democracy (cue politics thread) in that we can all put in our say, but as long as there's electricity in the wires, willingness in the fingers, and tolerance in Doug Brewer's smile, this list will continue, and nothing anyone does or says will change that. Someone wanted to know why someone sold some gear and bought some other gear to replace it. I wanted to know. Now we know, and we can use that knowledge as we will. That's no reason to deny anyone who wants to be here, whether Pentax owner or not, user or not, dreamer or not, that place. Pentax has a lot to answer for. Peace, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Re: PDML IS ALIVE
Don't PANIC And thanks for the fish Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 4, 2005 8:28 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: PDML IS ALIVE On 5/4/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the answer is 42. It would be, if Frank knew the question to ask. You guys are making my brain hurt. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: PDML IS ALIVE
frank theriault wrote: I agree, a benign dictatorship (with the right dictator) is great. Only problem is picking a successor once (s)he's gone. However, this leads to a couple of obvious questions, such as: Who's our dictator? Waitaminnit... I thought *you* were our dictator this week, Frank? (I can never keep track of these things...) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
You're going to get some linear distortion in almost any lens when shooting at some angles. In this lens you're seeing a little bit of barrel distortion, and the sidewalk in the foreground is curved. The barrel distortion is quite well corrected for a lens of this extreme focal length. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Sorry, missed the original. On 5/1/05, Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got my K15/3.5 back from Japan for calibration and did some test on Agfa RSX II 50 which has really great colour. No more nasty blue cast like Fujichrome. :-) This looks fishy to me. http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/42779421 As in fisheye-like distortion. Can someone explain? Kostas (oh and some flare, but on a bulging-element extreme wideangle one would expect it) -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: Who builds the Optio 50? OEM DSLR lenses
On 2005-05-04 09:29, Mark Roberts wrote: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Pentax Optio 50 is the same stuff as the Premier DC-5345 And they're both manufactured by Sanyo. Hi Mark, is this common knowledge? Does Sharp build for Premier or is it Premier who builds for Sharp? Premier claims to be one of the major manufacturers with a market share of 15 %. The Optio 50 sensor probably is not from Sanyo, but from Sharp. I don't know about the lenses - maybe actually the Premier lenses are from Pentax? The LCD could be Sanyo? Maybe that Sanyo does not sell the items they build with a Sanyo label: All they name is VPC-R1 (1.3 MP) VPC-MZ3 (2.0 MP) VPC-J1 Xacti (3.2 MP) VPC-AZ3 (4.0 MP) I guess you might know better than I do - but for the moment I'd expect Premier as the real builder!?
Re: Moral Dilemma
On 4/5/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: To all London DPML'ers, Please don't mention this mail to Vera in the coming week-end. :-) HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase.. Drinks are on you! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II
Hans; Another awesome shot. The reflection of the LEDs in the eyes adds to the picture. Gives it a kind of happy/humorous feel. Christian - Original Message - From: Hans Imglueck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:46 AM Subject: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II Hi, one more try to convince everybody of the beauty of small many legged animals: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3327021 Again several shots (~4) overlaid and used LED-light clearly visible in some of the eyes. Best regards, -- Hans Imglueck +++ Lassen Sie Ihren Gedanken freien Lauf... z.B. per FreeSMS +++ GMX bietet bis zu 100 FreeSMS/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail
Re: Life, the List and Everything
Ha! All my computers are named after dead dogs. In fact the network name is DEADDOGS. I guess it's my way of memorializing personal friends. After reading some of these posts I'm no longer worried that I'm crazier than most... David Mann wrote: On May 4, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Heck, both my home PC and office PC are named Pentax ;). My Linux server is called smurf. That's because I painted its front panel dark blue several years ago (the rest is black). It looks a bit nicer than the original beige. The Mac is called garfield to keep with the big-cat theme. When I was a kid I spent my lawn mowing money on Garfield books. I still have them today but I no longer get paid for mowing the lawn. My h/w development machine (also Linux) is called mayhem after Project Mayhem from the movie Fight Club. There are more but you get the idea - I don't have any kind of consistent naming scheme. I'm planning to buy a Powerbook soon... I was going to keep with the Garfield theme and call it Nermal but thought it'd be too girly. I might call it 'scratch' instead as that'd be a good cat name. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
On 4 May 2005 at 12:32, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: This looks fishy to me. http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/42779421 As in fisheye-like distortion. Can someone explain? What you are seeing is perspective distortion since the lens is pointed down, the barrel distortion inherent in this lens wouldn't be noticeable in this image. I made a very quick and dirty perspective correction with no barrel distortion correction to illustrate: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/42779421.17.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Film in your hands...
Jim, The only problem I will have now is finding a small bag (fanny pack, bum bag,...) that can hold the 67, the 645n, and maybe a K-mount body - not to mention lenses... I wonder what the press photographers would say if they notice my MF gear as they digitally record the event :-) This is going to be a fun ride, César Panama City, Florida Jim Apilado wrote: More power to you in handling this giant Pentax. I recall when they first came out and realize its size and weight were not for me. When I got a 645, I knew this was the MF camera for me. Jim a.
Re: Lens options for the *ist-DS
On 4 May 2005 at 12:16, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 3 May 2005 at 8:46, David Oswald wrote: Now I'm working on building my fixed focal length kit. Currently it consists only of the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4. I love that lens; its focal length is great as a mild telephoto, very nice for portraits. And its so small, yields a bright viewfinder, and offers fast optics. Imagine buying an f/1.4 telephoto lens this size for a 35mm camera! A lot of us did and still do have 85/1.4s, the A series lens is amazing in all respects. Depends how you interpret this size in the original quote :-))) Yes it does :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long
- Original Message - From: Herb Chong Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long at $10KUSD for the body? If you want a 16mp Canon and a few lenses, it's gonna be at least that much as well, isn't it? William Robb
Re: Moral Dilemma
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] HAR. A crack into which a crowbar will take purchase.. Now don't make me peckish... Drinks are on you! Uh-oh. Have mercy! Imagine how much Pentax gear I would have to sell of to finance that! Jostein
Re: Photographic projects...
Mark Roberts wrote: Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is not prompted by my sipping on 2001 Bennett Cellars Knights Valley Merlot :-) It wasn't? I'll have to assume you've been imbibing in something stronger, then ;-) (Are you *sure* you won't be able to make to London on Saturday? Really disappointing.) Mark, Nothing stronger last night - I do not have any of Bill´s fermentaton stashed away :-) Though I have a small part in terms of duties during the triathlon, I cannot step away from it. This will be the 17th consecutive year I will be involved with it. I have come a long way from when I just helped out in the aid stations. I should have a couple of shots from that first time. Eventually I became the Foundation's official photographer... looks good on a resumé ;-) I was so tempted to pan the race and show up in London - if only the parents had not shown me all about responsibility :-( I should have sent you a skinned LX just for you to carry to the get together, César Panama City, Florida
Re: Re: Moral Dilemma
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yy!!! Drinks are on Jostein! Okay, here's for another moral dilemma: Sell my gear to finance a thirst quench for these rabid PDML'ers, AND having to explain that to the wife in a plausible way; or, Show her the mail I sent to Shaun. Hmmm... Afraid you'll end up thirsty, guys...:-) Che... greetings, Jostein
Re: Feeling inadequate (was: Why and How I switched to Canon)
You'll get over it, Rob. My ancestors stopped their RAIDs eight hundred years ago. Jostein - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:48 AM Subject: Feeling inadequate (was: Why and How I switched to Canon) On 3 May 2005 at 21:22, Herb Chong wrote: i have much more than Paul has, 1.2 terabyte RAID array. i've always stored my slide and RAW images at about 60-70 megabytes whenever possible. some images have been cropped or otherwise are not suitable for double resolution are stored at native resolution. the slide scans are native at 60-70 megabytes. My server RAID is only 0.75TB :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
You will regret you ever got involved in this :-) On Wed, 4 May 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 4 May 2005 at 12:32, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: This looks fishy to me. http://www.pbase.com/wlachan/image/42779421 As in fisheye-like distortion. Can someone explain? What you are seeing is perspective distortion since the lens is pointed down, the barrel distortion inherent in this lens wouldn't be noticeable in this image. I made a very quick and dirty perspective correction with no barrel distortion correction to illustrate: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/42779421.17.jpg Thanks for this. But does this mean that the pavement is curved? Or is that barrel? Kostas
Re: PESO and enablement
On 3/5/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: I just ordered Powell's copy of 'One Mind's Eye'. Thanks for the head's up and the compliment! Oh wow - it's a superb book, you will enjoy flipping through that. Look for the stunning portrait of Harry Truman amongst others. Look at how he juxtaposes the sitter with their environment. There's also some great text into how Newman works, and even a contact sheet or two. You will absolutely love it. And nice pic, once again! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II
On 4/5/05, Hans Imglueck, discombobulated, unleashed: one more try to convince everybody of the beauty of small many legged animals: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3327021 Again several shots (~4) overlaid and used LED-light clearly visible in some of the eyes. Hans, that's a stunning pic - MUCH better than mine http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/nature/images/pic24.html I'm particularly impressed with your depth of field - can you tell me what lens and aperture you were shooting at? Fabulous light on yours! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II
Another nice one, Hans. How doe you keep the critter still long enough to get 4 shots precise enough to overlay? - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: Hans Imglueck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:46 AM Subject: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II Hi, one more try to convince everybody of the beauty of small many legged animals: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3327021 Again several shots (~4) overlaid and used LED-light clearly visible in some of the eyes. Best regards, -- Hans Imglueck +++ Lassen Sie Ihren Gedanken freien Lauf... z.B. per FreeSMS +++ GMX bietet bis zu 100 FreeSMS/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail
Re: Quoting photographers (was Buenos Aires PDML)
You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman Are you sure that wasn't Alfred E. Newman? Nope that's 'you have to hold the buttock down' :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Quoting photographers (was Buenos Aires PDML)
On 3/5/05, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: You've inspired me to quote a photographer in my own sig. Since Cotty recently called one of my photos Very Arnold Newman, I've chosen what I believe to be an appropriate quote. Thanks! Very interesting site: http://www.photoquotes.com/ Slightly disappointed with the entry for my hero, Jeanloup Sieff. Here's two more that don't show up on his page: 'I don't believe in God, but women and trees are proof of his existence' ...'I only make the photographs for myself, and if someone else likes them as well, too bad!' Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Moral Dilemma
On 4/5/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: Okay, here's for another moral dilemma: Sell my gear to finance a thirst quench for these rabid PDML'ers, AND having to explain that to the wife in a plausible way; or, Show her the mail I sent to Shaun. Hmmm... Afraid you'll end up thirsty, guys...:-) Har, not after I put a bit of spin on the tale..!! Make mine Valhalla-sized, Viking Boy! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Who builds the Optio 50? OEM DSLR lenses
The Optio 50 uses Pentax lens elements, but is manufactured by Sanyo, as are Nikon and Canon digital PS cameras. Bill - Original Message - From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Who builds the Optio 50? OEM DSLR lenses On 2005-05-04 09:29, Mark Roberts wrote: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Pentax Optio 50 is the same stuff as the Premier DC-5345 And they're both manufactured by Sanyo. Hi Mark, is this common knowledge? Does Sharp build for Premier or is it Premier who builds for Sharp? Premier claims to be one of the major manufacturers with a market share of 15 %. The Optio 50 sensor probably is not from Sanyo, but from Sharp. I don't know about the lenses - maybe actually the Premier lenses are from Pentax? The LCD could be Sanyo? Maybe that Sanyo does not sell the items they build with a Sanyo label: All they name is VPC-R1 (1.3 MP) VPC-MZ3 (2.0 MP) VPC-J1 Xacti (3.2 MP) VPC-AZ3 (4.0 MP) I guess you might know better than I do - but for the moment I'd expect Premier as the real builder!?
Re: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II
On 4/5/05, Mark Cassino, discombobulated, unleashed: Another nice one, Hans. How doe you keep the critter still long enough to get 4 shots precise enough to overlay? Basking on a wall, they will hold perfectly still indefinitely until touched. My ring flash doesn't make it flinch one micron. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO Pardosa Portrait Part II
On 4/5/05, Hans Imglueck, discombobulated, unleashed: Again several shots (~4) overlaid and used LED-light clearly visible in some of the eyes. If all else fails, read the email. D'oh! So that's your secret. Well done. That's very impressive. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
OT: Gallery Show, No Pentax
I have a one-day gallery show coming up this Friday. It's part of a Gallery Tour day in Birmingham, Michigan. My work is going to be displayed at Zoom, a photography gallery on Old Main Street next to the Birmingham Theater. My exhibit includes 9 photos and a theme manuscript. Eight of the photos are people/street shots from Europe that I took with my old screwmount Leica. Some were originally color, but I've printed them all as BW. I took considerable pains to make them indistinguishable. The ninth photo is the shot of my Leica IIIf that's in this month's PUG. The theme is Barnack Cameras on the Streets of Europe. I wrote a short piece about the tradition of street photography and the Leica rangefinder's role in that genre's history. The show will be brief. It runs from 6 PM to 9 PM on Friday evening, but it should be fun.
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
On 4 May 2005 at 14:58, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/42779421.17.jpg Thanks for this. But does this mean that the pavement is curved? Or is that barrel? Think flagpole :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: OT: Gallery Show, No Pentax
On 4/5/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I have a one-day gallery show coming up this Friday. It's part of a Gallery Tour day in Birmingham, Michigan. My work is going to be displayed at Zoom, a photography gallery on Old Main Street next to the Birmingham Theater. My exhibit includes 9 photos and a theme manuscript. Eight of the photos are people/street shots from Europe that I took with my old screwmount Leica. Some were originally color, but I've printed them all as BW. I took considerable pains to make them indistinguishable. The ninth photo is the shot of my Leica IIIf that's in this month's PUG. The theme is Barnack Cameras on the Streets of Europe. I wrote a short piece about the tradition of street photography and the Leica rangefinder's role in that genre's history. The show will be brief. It runs from 6 PM to 9 PM on Friday evening, but it should be fun. Good luck Paul. If i was anywhere near, i would make the effort to visit the show. best I can do is hoist a drink to you on Saturday evening in London :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Feeling inadequate (was: Why and How I switched to Canon)
You'll get over it, Rob. My ancestors stopped their RAIDs eight hundred years ago. Jostein ROTFL. That's the good one, real good one! Boris
Re: Quoting photographers
My favorite quote from this site is: Sometimes I do get to places just when God's ready to have somebody click the shutter./ -Ansel Adams/
DxO Labs software for Pentax
A forwarded message of importance to the PDML and Pentax users: Hello, Thank you for your interest in the DxO Technology. At present we do not have Pentax bodies on our list of next releases, however that could always change. For next DxO Module development, please check this web page: http://www.dxo.com/en/photo/optics_pro/cameras_lenses.php We keep this page updated. So please, do not hesitate to come back and check it from time to time. It constitutes the entire available information as of today. You or other Pentax users could request Pentax camera bodies and modules here: http://www.dxo.com/en/photo/support/form_availability.php However, until we have our form updated (soon), the only Pentax camera body on the list at present there is the Pentax *istD. Items can be added under line 11 (free form) only in the case that another item is listed above (bad web develpoment!) Best regards, Julie Y DxO Labs http://www.dxo.com/ We should flood the page with responses. This is the software that corrects flaws in lens designs extremely accurately. BTW, in spite of all my bitching two years ago, I bought an *ist D; I will never take internet reviews so seriously again; it's a great camera. 16x20 blowups, sharp as a tack, zero grain, stunning detail that blows the doors off formerly great film like Vevia - fabulous! And the FA*24mm f2 is once again an amazing lens if you shoot RAW and do the chromatic aberration correction - everything else I heard was total lies. My 28-70 (now a 42 - 105) 2.8 is simply stunning, the 85 f1.4 has a depth of field of about an 1/8 wide open, my 300 is now a 450 f4.5, and all my Metz flashes work wirelessly extraordinarily well. And the battery life with the pack on is extraordinary - several days to a week on one charge of the NIMH. Also, one phenomenon that no one has mentioned is that suddenly we have seem to have twice as many f stops as before; now I'm getting sequences like f1.4, 1.8, 2.3, 2.8, 3.2, etc. The only thing I miss is the wide angle - bring on the 12-24. 8 gig memory high speed memory cards now available. I'm sorry, but film IS dead. Cameron
Re: trying to answer Mark ROberts email....
Mark Roberts wrote: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not my email address Ann. That's why the message is being rejected. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com Mark,ack, no ya don't understand - I just threw that one in as insurance. it is one of three in my addressbook. I'm answering THIS through the list because I've been bounced three times when I used [EMAIL PROTECTED] this is the way that address is listed in my address book: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] but not only that, it happened NOT when I took you name from my address book, but when I hit reply to the email you sent me. I'll do it again and report back. sigh ann
Re: trying to answer Mark ROberts email....
Ok - here is the message I just got when I hit REPLY to yesterday's letter The following message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 553-'207.172.4.64 - REJECTED: See http://psbl.surriel.com ' sorry to bother the list with this, but there are goona be times coming up when being in touch with Mark by email will be kind important. ann
Re: Film in your hands...
On May 4, 2005, at 6:50 AM, Cesar wrote: The only problem I will have now is finding a small bag (fanny pack, bum bag,...) that can hold the 67, the 645n, and maybe a K-mount body - not to mention lenses... I guess small in this context cannot be relative to the size of the 'bum'. Godfrey
Re: OT: Gallery Show, No Pentax
Cool! Good luck with it, carry a camera and document the event. :-) Godfrey On May 4, 2005, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a one-day gallery show coming up this Friday. It's part of a Gallery Tour day in Birmingham, Michigan. My work is going to be displayed at Zoom, a photography gallery on Old Main Street next to the Birmingham Theater. My exhibit includes 9 photos and a theme manuscript. Eight of the photos are people/street shots from Europe that I took with my old screwmount Leica. Some were originally color, but I've printed them all as BW. I took considerable pains to make them indistinguishable. The ninth photo is the shot of my Leica IIIf that's in this month's PUG. The theme is Barnack Cameras on the Streets of Europe. I wrote a short piece about the tradition of street photography and the Leica rangefinder's role in that genre's history. The show will be brief. It runs from 6 PM to 9 PM on Friday evening, but it should be fun.
PDML Mini-FAQ
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Re: DxO Labs software for Pentax
On 4 May 2005 at 7:55, Cameron Hood wrote: We should flood the page with responses. This is the software that corrects flaws in lens designs extremely accurately. I down-loaded some of their high res sample images (the ones bundled with the RAW files) Nov 04 and ran them through ACR for comparison. I wasn't too impressed. I did better in all cases WRT colour accuracy, CA, shadow detail and highlights via ACR and then compensated for global geometric distortion later using PTLens. One file is DSC_4991.NEF, if they aren't there any longer I'll send it to you along with their DxO super-duper corrected RAW conversion. Great concept and excellent theory but more hot air than results IMHO. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long
Hahahaha Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 00:19:02 -0600 - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: Why and How I switched to Canon (for those who care) long Yep, that's true, if the intended audience still has those lenses. Look at the relatively low prices on used medium format gear lately. Yup. I was planning on selling my 6x7 gear to Cakalic for loads of money, and then retiring. Won't happen now. I'll keep the stuff for what it'll fetch on the market. William Robb
Re: Who builds the Optio 50? OEM DSLR lenses
Quoting Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Optio 50 uses Pentax lens elements, but is manufactured by Sanyo, as are Nikon and Canon digital PS cameras. For the most important part -- is the lens SMC? ERNR
Re: DxO Labs software for Pentax
I saw this software in beta development. Never got interested as even when I had Canon gear, they concentrated on lenses I didn't own. Godfrey
Re: trying to answer Mark ROberts email....
Cotty wrote: Mark's ISP is to email as Pit Bull Terriers are to fluffy little kittens ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ now there's a picture ann
Re: Quoting photographers (was Buenos Aires PDML)
On 5/4/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman Are you sure that wasn't Alfred E. Newman? Nope that's 'you have to hold the buttock down' :-) Groan -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: May PUG is open
På 4. mai. 2005 kl. 00.55 skrev frank theriault: On 5/3/05, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: Sorry about the sloppy English yesterday. I had been out celebrating the results of a competition in a local camera club Sometimes my English gets sloppy when I celebrate, too! LOL chers, frnak .-) Sometimes I think I´ll join my son when he starts learning English at school next year. The patent language I use at work isn´t fit for normal communication. .-) Here´s the reason for celebrating: http://www.oslokameraklubb.no/konk_foto_var05.html Not that much, but better than nothing DagT
Re: May PUG is open
På 4. mai. 2005 kl. 00.59 skrev frank theriault: On 5/3/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You can buy me a beer next time I'm in Denmark... vbg ...or Norway. Wherever you live. Sorry about that... -frank I will, wherever I meet you .-) DagT
Re: Film in your hands...
I got back my first roll of 120 slide film shot through my very own 67 First time a saw my 120 slides from the 6x7 i went WOW to.:-) I must admit to feeling trepidation at taking 1/60 sec handheld shots with the 67. Feeling the mirror move - or was it just the sound?- made me think that all the shots would be blurry. Unfounded fears. I may play around with the handholding a bit with this camera. I was worried about that,but i have very little trouble handholding the unit. If its windy at all,i will use the monopod. Just about all of Brother Aarons 6x7 shots are hand held aswell. I target shoot(please lets not startg) and i use the same stance as i would in that. Its a pretty solid stance and i always shoot when i breath out, not in. Dave Brooks Not in Panama City, Floridag César Panama City, Florida
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
On Thu, 5 May 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 4 May 2005 at 14:58, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/42779421.17.jpg Thanks for this. But does this mean that the pavement is curved? Or is that barrel? Think flagpole :-) Yes, I had seen it was straight. But still, there are two many circles and arcs. I would have to play with the software on an image I understand. Only I don't have the software, I am happy to say :-) Kostas
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
I guess you missed my post. Look at the pavement it's a roundabout. Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Thu, 5 May 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: On 4 May 2005 at 14:58, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/42779421.17.jpg Thanks for this. But does this mean that the pavement is curved? Or is that barrel? Think flagpole :-) Yes, I had seen it was straight. But still, there are two many circles and arcs. I would have to play with the software on an image I understand. Only I don't have the software, I am happy to say :-) Kostas -- A man's only as old as the woman he feels. --Groucho Marx
Re: Film in your hands...
Cesar wrote: I got back my first roll of 120 slide film shot through my very own 67 (I shot some 67 film earlier using Bob S.'s gear at GFMtn) yesterday. It felt great even just looking at the images with the overhead light. Once I put it on a light box - wow! I have to go and compare sizes with the 645... I knew you were going to wind up with a 67 after you drooled all over that one you were fooling with at GFM last year. ...Now if only I can get a good deal on some 120/220 film - even old stuff. This experimenting can get expensive. eBay currently has a bunch of auctions selling outdated and short dated slide film. here's an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=4204item=7511201729rd=1 This auction listing can't offend anyone since the seller has 947 rolls available. If you search ebay for 120 slide film you'll get a lot of hits. ...and just how does the leaf shutter work? ;-) It works great for outdoor portraits with fill flash. Tom Reese
Re: Hello and Sensor cleaning
I worked in a canning plant for a few months when I was young. It was years before I was able to eat canned food again. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- mike wilson wrote: From: McRae, Max MS [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was told that it would be done to food quality standards, so expected total cleanliness. You've never worked in the food industry have you? mike who remembers being told to shovel stuff off the floor to go into Walls' pies... - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using mcAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.4 - Release Date: 5/4/2005
Re: Vancouver China Town (pics)
On Wed, 4 May 2005, P. J. Alling wrote: I guess you missed my post. Look at the pavement it's a roundabout. Yes I had. Thanks. Kostas
Re: Photographic projects...
Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have sent you a skinned LX just for you to carry to the get together I'll try to cobble something together to take in the spirit of your LXen evil grin -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: trying to answer Mark Roberts email....
Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok - here is the message I just got when I hit REPLY to yesterday's letter The following message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 553-'207.172.4.64 - REJECTED: See http://psbl.surriel.com ' OK, I just went to the URL in your rejection message (did you check that out?) Your IP address is on the Passive Spam Block List because someone sent spam from that IP address recently (on May 3, in fact). That means that someone using that IP address has been infected with a virus and their computer has been hacked into by a spammer and used to send bulk email. If you are on dial-up connection it probably isn't you, but the last person who signed on and got assigned that IP, but you definitely ought to run a virus scan to be sure. If you're on a broadband (cable or DSL) connection then it's probably your computer that's infected. The Passive Spam Block List is unique in that you can remove your IP address from the list yourself, no questions asked (I just did it for you). But it will be added back as soon as it emits spam again, which will be in a few hours if you really do have a virus. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Moral Dilemma
Jostein is right. The wife wants your help and attention with an 8 month old. Put a small, fixed focal length lens on the camera and put it away in your bags. After you reach your destination, and have shown your attentiveness, 'discover' the camera and take a limited amount of pictures of the trip. Bottom line, this is a family vacation 1st, 2nd 3rd. Photography is incidental. (Remember this the next time you plan a trip! You will need her agreement 'up-front' on what you'll be doing!) Regards, Bob S. On 5/4/05, Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaun, If your wife is any bit like mine, the opposition against cameras is basically a mild jealousy over the time you spend with it, instead of assisting her with the kid. :-) In the long term, this will pass as the kids grow out of their diapers. In the short term, bring the camera. You must never confirm her theory that it's _either_ family _or_ camera. take ample of shots of the kid, enjoy outdoors photography while taking the lad for a stroll (especially when he sleeps in the stroller), volunteer for some (not all...) extra diaper changes, feeding, etc. To all London DPML'ers, Please don't mention this mail to Vera in the coming week-end. :-) Cheers, Jostein Quoting Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We are about to embark on a 3 week holiday in tropical Far North Queensland with wife and 8 month old son. Wife does not want me to take *ist D etc. What do I do? Do I: 1. Leave camera at home, 2. Leave wife and son at home, 3. Take son and leave wife, 4. Justify buying a new compact digicam because our S50 can't come close to replicating the results of the *istD, or 5. Throw a tantrum. I am really confused :-) Shaun Dr. Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services 11 Lawrence Way Karratha, Western Australia, 6714 0414-967644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.heritageservices.com.au This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
PESO and Singing Praise for an Unsung Lens
Hi! I am one of the untold millions (!) of lurkers who read PDML via Mail Archive, who at last decided to step forward and say something. I shoot with a Pentax *ist 35mm, and have been wanting to play around with super wide angle. I recently bought a FA J 18-35. The fact that it can zoom to 35 means that it can be a decent 'walking around' lens, while the 100 degree coverage at 18 means that I can photograph a whole room by standing in a corner. I love that! Larf! I know it is a much disparaged FA J, plastic mount and no aperture ring, blah blah blah, but the optical quality has been better than I expected. It is very compact and light, important considerations for me. I am sure you folks know about the lens, but what I thought was interesting is that the market for it seems to have collapsed. It was the first kit lens for the *ist D and still sells for $165 or more new. But new/minty/barely used versions are now selling on that auction site for $60-$100, which I think is a real bargain. If you have a newer film SLR compatible with a FA J lens, you may want to look at one of these. Now, about posting a photo: I did not want to come empty handed on my first official visit, but I must say that I am intimidated by all of you. I really love your photos! I might post more info/bio stuff later, but suffice to say for now that I am a mere snapper, I play at it, and every once in a while accidentally come up with a shot that at least makes it on the a, cute! level, with no pretense to anything loftier. With that in mind, here's a snap of a red-eyed tree frog sitting contentedly on my wife's wrist, taken last September in Tortugero, Costa Rica. At the time, I had the FA J 28-80 kit lens (recently replaced by a FA 28-105 3.2-4.5). a href=http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3334304;http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3334304/a I look forward to any comments, either on the lens or my snap. *UncaMikey P.S. It sure would be nice if PDML had the equivalent of listserv's nomail command -- is that a touchy subject around here? __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
