Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
On 2 Jul 2005 at 1:57, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought I heard the word affordable in there somewhere... 'Tis a very personal and relative term. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
Rob Studdert wrote: On 2 Jul 2005 at 1:57, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought I heard the word affordable in there somewhere... 'Tis a very personal and relative term. That's why I provided a basis for relativity: As affordable as the FA50 f/1.4 and FA135 f/2.8. It shouldn't be impossible to produce a well-regarded 75 to 85mm prime f/2 FA (or D-FA) lens that could sell for around $350.
Re: OT - PayPal Question
On Jul 1, 2005, at 7:14 PM, Graywolf wrote: To accept paypal you have to give them access to your bank account. Then anything you buy they do an ETF bankdraft and only if that does not go through do they charge it to your credit card. In other words they use your credit card for a back up. Not great if you don't want to use funds in your bank for the purchase. In my particular case this makes no difference because I actually do not have a credit card but a visa check card instead which, of course, drafts my checking account, however I have heard some complaints from folks who thought they were making the purchase on time. There may actually be someway around this but as I said it makes no difference in my own case. When you pay for something with Paypal, you have the option of specifying which funding source they will use. You can register as many credit cards as you want with them, and choose them instead of your bank account when buying things to obtain extended warranty or price protection, etc, services. I do this with an AmEx card account. Godfrey
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
On 1 Jul 2005 at 23:18, David Oswald wrote: That's why I provided a basis for relativity: As affordable as the FA50 f/1.4 and FA135 f/2.8. It shouldn't be impossible to produce a well-regarded 75 to 85mm prime f/2 FA (or D-FA) lens that could sell for around $350. IMO rather than virtually replicating lenses they should be concentrating on the holes huge holes in the prime line-up. The Pentax DA DFA development roadmap indicates a potential DA Limited prime between 60-70mm, I really can't see the point of it myself though. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
I feel sorry for you if this is the only way you can assess the quality of a photo. -- Cheers, Bob the first one won't sell and the second one will.
Re: pentax 85mm soft
There is a soft focus lens for the 67 that could be used with a Pentax 67 to K adapter. I believe it is 120mm and something like f3.5 Cornelius Nuzzlemuff III -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm
Re: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway
Hi! At the end I would like to draw attention my rewritten signature. Tim Not drunk, just plain Norwegian. Tim, this is photography club. You cannot draw attention... You can photograph though ;-). Boris (and his warped sense of humor)
Re: Pentax 80-200 f2.8
On 2/7/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: I repeat my question. Why would one want a power zoom on a stills camera? Thanks to all who replied - I am now enlightened. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: IMO rather than virtually replicating lenses they should be concentrating on the holes huge holes in the prime line-up. The Pentax DA DFA development roadmap indicates a potential DA Limited prime between 60-70mm, I really can't see the point of it myself though. As Will Robb will confirm, a 60mm on the Digis becomes a 90, a most useful FL for portraits and general photography. The 50 in the portrait department is as useful as the 77 was (ie little, as it is short). Kostas (well you know what I mean)
Re: OT - PayPal Question
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: When you pay for something with Paypal, you have the option of specifying which funding source they will use. You can register as many credit cards as you want with them, and choose them instead of your bank account when buying things to obtain extended warranty or price protection, etc, services. I do this with an AmEx card account. I agree with the above. What I have not managed yet is to renew my CC allocation. I have a balance of $1.43 for 9 months now. Kostas
Re: Pentax 80-200 f2.8
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, John Francis wrote: On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 12:11:22AM +0100, Cotty wrote: I repeat my question. Why would one want a power zoom on a stills camera? For the same reason you'd want one on a TV camera. If you're following an action sequence, waiting for the decisive moment, you'll track the framing by using the zoom. With the slowest powered zoom speed, you may well have more accurate fine control than you get by zooming manually. I think there are also settings whereby the camera zooms the lens to keep a moving object the same size. Can't be arsed to check it, Kostas
Re: PESO - Contrasts
On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:27 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0271.htm That reminds me of a photo I took about 5 years ago when I got my RB67. I did scan it but I seem to have deleted the file :( Aah, found it. I remembered I'd zipped up my really old website which had a simple gallery. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/rocks.html (the back link will not work as I only uploaded that one page) FWIW I think yours is much nicer. I love the colours in the rocks. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Photoshop CS Book
Hi guys Which book exdplaining Photoshop CS is especially recommendable? Thanks Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ?
Dunno much about Photoshop except resizing and such but would really like to learn how to get my photos even better... -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...
RE: PESO - Haze
Brilliant, Bruce! I would consider cropping off some of the bottum part, though. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. juli 2005 03:40 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO - Haze Since we are talking about the haze issue, I thought I would post one where I felt that the haze was a major factor in the feeling of the photo. In fact, without the haze, I probably would not have taken this shot. It was at the Island of the Sky overlook at Canyonlands near sunset time. I will be curious to see what you think. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, tripod http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0123.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
you've made the assumption that Bruce left it alone on purpose. Herb - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 11:32 PM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Herb, you said that Bruce's original photo wouldn't sell, and that the image produce by Powell would. My point is that Bruce has his own ideas about what he wants, and if he compromised that ideal just to make a salable image, he'd be compromising his creativity and vision. It's not always about money and making something that will sell. I'll leave that to the pixel pushers who see things in terms of dollars and cents, time saved, expediency factors, and the like. In the mean time, let's allow for some photos to be made solely as an expression of the photographer's vision, and salability and cost factors be damned. What the hell is visionary junk?
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
a photo that won't sell has not passed tests of composition, exposure and originality. technically superb junk is still junk. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:14 AM Subject: RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters! I feel sorry for you if this is the only way you can assess the quality of a photo.
Re: Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ?
On 2/7/05, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Dunno much about Photoshop except resizing and such but would really like to learn how to get my photos even better... En Francais: http://www.escrappers.com/fr_photoshop.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
put it another way, a passionately held lousy vision isn't something to be proud of. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:14 AM Subject: RE: Don't need no stinkin' filters! I feel sorry for you if this is the only way you can assess the quality of a photo.
Re: Photoshop CS Book
On 2/7/05, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi guys Which book exdplaining Photoshop CS is especially recommendable? Thanks Jens Bladt I would recommend these two: http://tinyurl.com/d72hd http://tinyurl.com/boopx I think both will have German versions, and the last one does have a CS version (could only see the CS2 version on Amazon UK) HTH Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Herb Chong wrote: a photo that won't sell has not passed tests of composition, exposure and originality. technically superb junk is still junk. No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. H.L. Mencken I don't know Herb. People buy junk all the time and seem to prefer it over the good stuff. Tom Reese
Re: PESO - Preparing for Sunset
Hi! Very recently back from a trip to Southern Utah to see Canyonlands, Arches and Monument Valley among other things. It was a turbo-tour, but purely photo oriented. Got lots of pictures that I am sorting through, but thought I would at least start sharing a few. As we were preparing to shoot the sunset in Arches, I took this shot of my brother - probably not quite so typical of either Arches or sunsets. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/350 sec @ f/11 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0290.htm Bruce, is it possible to see at least some of the shots you took at the same moment... It seems to me that the one you chose is very left-heavy... What comes to mind is a square composition where the rock on the left won't be that imposing... Just my pixels... Boris
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
Hi! Hi gang, http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Tell what you think. Somehow it is not difficult for me to imagine you crouching on the grass getting the shot ;-)... I wonder if beer has anything to do with the tilt ;-)... Seriously, it is very good shot, Jostein. But it lacks something that I am used to seeing you in your work. May be it simply the fact that it is more or less just two-dimensional, may be it is something else... It is good, but it is not jolly good... Boris
Re: PESO - locked up
Hi! Finally got my home server functional again. Thought I'd post a shot from my friend's race two weeks ago. http://www.skofteland.net/cpg133/albums/userpics/10001/matt_IMG_2301BIG.jpg After Paul's glamour shots of cars, I think a car in actual use was in order :-) After order of 5 mins waiting I give up... Something got really locked up :(. I am on 750 Kbps DSL line at home... Boris
Re: PESO: The Nabours Harley
mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we know: Mark Roberts _is_ the Crazy Frog!!! I think I'm missing some point of reference here (or at least I hope I am!) Crazy frog? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - Green River Overlook
Hi! Here is the second PESO from my Southern Utah trip. This was taken in Canyonlands at the Green River Overlook. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4 handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0092.htm Beautiful canonyland ;-)... I wish it was not *that* hot in our Negev desert. Then, potentially I could go there and have some fun with my gear... Oh well... Boris
Re: PESO - Contrasts
Hi! 4th picture from the Southern Utah trip. Near/far, red/blue, desert/snow - several ways to look at this. Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/1000 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0271.htm The best one so far... Contrasts indeed... Boris
Re: PESO - Haze
Hi! Brilliant, Bruce! I would consider cropping off some of the bottum part, though. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt I'd agree with Jens. The river though is spectacular... Reminds me of mortal combat the movie... That it, when they get to that other planet, whatever is its name... Boris
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
What a crock of shit! Shel [Original Message] From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 7/2/2005 3:57:59 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! a photo that won't sell has not passed tests of composition, exposure and originality. technically superb junk is still junk. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W I feel sorry for you if this is the only way you can assess the quality of a photo.
Re: PESO: The Nabours Harley
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: PESO: The Nabours Harley mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we know: Mark Roberts _is_ the Crazy Frog!!! I think I'm missing some point of reference here (or at least I hope I am!) Crazy frog? Don't worry Mark. Anyone who actually meets you won't confuse the accent. William Robb
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Buying lenses new - having a question As Will Robb will confirm, a 60mm on the Digis becomes a 90, AAAHHH. Don't put my name to this sort of misinformation. William Robb
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! What a crock of shit! Not at all. 1)Some pictures can overcome lousy technique and are very good pictures. 2)Some pictures don't, and are just bad pictures. 3)Some pictures are technically very good, but have no content. 4)Some are technically good and have sufficient content to make them very good pictures as well. In Herbs world, picture #4 is the important one, though picture # 1 may make the grade if it is sufficiently unique. Most pictures fall nto the category of #2 or #3, and are either technically proficient junk, or technically nonproficient junk. William Robb a photo that won't sell has not passed tests of composition, exposure and originality. technically superb junk is still junk. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W I feel sorry for you if this is the only way you can assess the quality of a photo.
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Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
And some pictures are superb in every respect, but, for whatever reason, have not sold. That does not make them junk. And some photos which are pretty bad in many respects have found buyers, but that doesn't make them a good photograph by any other standard. Recently I sold one of my photos to someone who saw it on the net somewhere. I never even considered it much of anything - just a photographic doodle, that was heavily adjusted in Photoshop. She liked it. It sold. Ergo, it's a good photograph. Herb's comment is an insult to the many good photographers here who have not sold their work, yet who have produced stunning and wonderful photographs. And I can practically assure you that there are many photos sold by PDML members that hoover. Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 7/2/2005 5:42:40 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! What a crock of shit! Not at all. 1)Some pictures can overcome lousy technique and are very good pictures. 2)Some pictures don't, and are just bad pictures. 3)Some pictures are technically very good, but have no content. 4)Some are technically good and have sufficient content to make them very good pictures as well. In Herbs world, picture #4 is the important one, though picture # 1 may make the grade if it is sufficiently unique. Most pictures fall nto the category of #2 or #3, and are either technically proficient junk, or technically nonproficient junk. William Robb a photo that won't sell has not passed tests of composition, exposure and originality. technically superb junk is still junk. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob W I feel sorry for you if this is the only way you can assess the quality of a photo.
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
I was going to make a similar comment about the 43ltd., then give you permission to scream, but thought better of it... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Buying lenses new - having a question As Will Robb will confirm, a 60mm on the Digis becomes a 90, AAAHHH. Don't put my name to this sort of misinformation. William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
In a message dated 7/2/2005 8:09:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. -- Some years ago, I made a print of wetlands at dawn with an abandoned lighthouse; delicate shot, almost looked like a pen and ink on watercolor. Anyhow, an interior decorator liked it and asked to show it to a client. A few days, she called and asked if I had the same shot in pink, Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
So of course you fired up PhotoShop, made it pink, and pocketed the cash. Paul On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/2/2005 8:09:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. -- Some years ago, I made a print of wetlands at dawn with an abandoned lighthouse; delicate shot, almost looked like a pen and ink on watercolor. Anyhow, an interior decorator liked it and asked to show it to a client. A few days, she called and asked if I had the same shot in pink, Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. Herb didn't say if it will sell then it's a good photo nor did he imply it. Herb replied to someones heavy editing of someelse's image with the comment: the first one won't sell and the second one will. He didn't say that was the only way to evaluate an image. He didn't say the second one was a better image. All he said was that the second picture would sell better than the first one. That can be important to someone who needs to put food on the table and is a valid comment. I too think the second image would sell better. I sure as hell don't think it's a better image. Tom Reese
PESO: two images from my project
Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199955 http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199426 They are totally unrelated. The only connection between them is that I shot them during my lunch or supper time at work. Boris. P.S. I do stay late (until 11 pm) once every week. So sometimes I have to have supper at work.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Read ALL of Herb's comments. He's evaluating the worth of a photo by its marketability. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 7/2/2005 7:03:22 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Shel Belinkoff wrote: Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. Herb didn't say if it will sell then it's a good photo nor did he imply it. Herb replied to someones heavy editing of someelse's image with the comment: the first one won't sell and the second one will. He didn't say that was the only way to evaluate an image. He didn't say the second one was a better image. All he said was that the second picture would sell better than the first one. That can be important to someone who needs to put food on the table and is a valid comment. I too think the second image would sell better. I sure as hell don't think it's a better image. Tom Reese
RE: PESO: two images from my project
The first one is a nice strong photo. The second has no context or story, and offers little to involve the viewer. How nice it is to know that you sometimes work late and eat supper at work. What is your project? If these are two images from the same project, why is it that they are not connected? Shel [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199955 http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199426 They are totally unrelated. The only connection between them is that I shot them during my lunch or supper time at work. Boris. P.S. I do stay late (until 11 pm) once every week. So sometimes I have to have supper at work.
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
very true. i work with people who consider $1K+ pens affordable. best, mishka On 7/2/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Jul 2005 at 1:57, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought I heard the word affordable in there somewhere... 'Tis a very personal and relative term. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: FS Friday/now with photos/Ltd lenses too
Sorry guys, links may not have worked. Now I uploaded a quick and dirty thumb nail pages so that you can see enlarged photos by clicking each thumb nail. Skipped legends as PDMLers can tell which one is which so easily :-). See; http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pentaxgear.html Hope this link works (wanted to make each page open separately but I got to go now :-(. As I said, unlike most PDMlers, eBay was not my source of equip (should have been though), hence no PayPal etc but I am now trying to see if I could quickly make use of it. Cheers, Ken On 7/02/05 12:09 AM, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, I am finally ready to plunge into Pentax DSLR (I know I am slow :-) but need money. I have a set of 645N gears and a dark side brand for film and things are getting expensive. I wish to start fresh with Pentax with more compact gears, retaining some gems here. 1. MZ-3 Black Limited package w/43mm Ltd Black http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/MZ3LtdPackage.html http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/MZ3LtdFront.html It is a Japan only model, and comes with the special edition MZ-3 Limited black, 43mm Ltd black and a brown leather strap. Lens does not have a usual pouch (that's the way it was packaged). I bought this from Japan simply because it was a special edition but it is like my brain*. Perhaps 5 rolls went through and otherwise, babied. Absolute mint with no scratch, nothing. Maintained with occasional dry shutter. U.S.$620, package only please. Lower body cover is thrown in as I always use it to protect the body from scratch etc. *like my brain? Translation---hardly ever used. Shame, shame. 2. 77mm Limited silver USD480.00 3. FA100mm MacroUSD360 4. FA*24mm/2.0 USD250.00 5. FA28`105 Power Zoom USD120.00 6. FA70~200 Power Zoom USD120 7. AF500FTZ Flash USD195.00 includes Sto-fen Omnibounce two way unit w/adapter 8. Right angle finder w/two step magnification w/pouch case Also throw in a magnifier USD240.00 *All of above are absolute mint with no scratch, nothing. *All lenses come with front/rear caps. *Unfortunately no boxes. We moved into a 2bdrm +1 condo from 4bdrm house last month and had to throw away things like empty boxes (which I have been keeping all these years, but my lady would not understand :-(. I have proof of purchase with S/N for most of the gears (retailers here usually ask for it when trading-in). *money order or bank draft please. I know this is not fair to buyers but I will be sincere. 10 days money back guarantee. *shipping extra (except for the MZ3 Black Limited package to Canada/USA). *I am no eBayer (I seldom buy/sell used equip) and have no PayPal acct. But will take credit cards thru my wife's biz from known PDMLers :-). *Didi not have enough time to upload all pictures but can email upon request (or upload them if and when I have time tomorrow). Hope these are fair prices. Please contact off list. Cheers, Ken Takeshita
Re: PESO: two images from my project
Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199955 Stunning! Is that Sigma lens sharp enough for you to get a really *big* print of this? This image is definitely a candidate for poster size treatment. http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199426 She's thinking Why is that other bicyclist wearing bunny ears? ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: two images from my project
Hi! The first one is a nice strong photo. The second has no context or story, and offers little to involve the viewer. How nice it is to know that you sometimes work late and eat supper at work. What is your project? If these are two images from the same project, why is it that they are not connected? My project, which I thought you might have remembered, is to take a camera with me at work every day. I would take one lens only, sometimes zoom though and take my camera with me as I intake nutrition :). The project is about walking and seeing things, whatever they are. Boris
Re: Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ?
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/05, Thibouille, discombobulated, unleashed: Dunno much about Photoshop except resizing and such but would really like to learn how to get my photos even better... En Francais: http://www.escrappers.com/fr_photoshop.html En Anglais: http://www.adobeevangelists.com -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: two images from my project
Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199955 Stunning! Is that Sigma lens sharp enough for you to get a really *big* print of this? This image is definitely a candidate for poster size treatment. Sigma is quite sharp indeed. I'll see what I can do... http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199426 She's thinking Why is that other bicyclist wearing bunny ears? ;-) Yeah. Or I could copy and paste the ears from Frank's photos too... I mean, theoretically and in light of most recent discussions only ;-). Boris
Re: FS Friday/now with photos/Ltd lenses too
Hi! Sorry guys, links may not have worked. Now I uploaded a quick and dirty thumb nail pages so that you can see enlarged photos by clicking each thumb nail. Skipped legends as PDMLers can tell which one is which so easily :-). See; http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pentaxgear.html Hope this link works (wanted to make each page open separately but I got to go now :-(. As I said, unlike most PDMlers, eBay was not my source of equip (should have been though), hence no PayPal etc but I am now trying to see if I could quickly make use of it. Ken, this very page opens. But non of sub-links work for me at least... They just produce an empty page... Boris
Re: PESO: two images from my project
Ahhh ...hanks for the reminder about your project. The next step is to find a theme or two, and make those the focus of the project. Shel [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman The first one is a nice strong photo. The second has no context or story, and offers little to involve the viewer. How nice it is to know that you sometimes work late and eat supper at work. What is your project? If these are two images from the same project, why is it that they are not connected? My project, which I thought you might have remembered, is to take a camera with me at work every day. I would take one lens only, sometimes zoom though and take my camera with me as I intake nutrition :). The project is about walking and seeing things, whatever they are. Boris
Re: Pentax *ist DS firmware
On Jul 2, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Jorn Ostergaard wrote: What is the newest firmware for *ist DS ? v1.02 Godfrey
Re: PESO: two images from my project
I love the first shot. Great composition. I don't dislike the second, although I find the stoplight and person right at the edge to be somewhat distracting. I probably would like it better either a little lighter or a little tighter. Paul On Jul 2, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! The first one is a nice strong photo. The second has no context or story, and offers little to involve the viewer. How nice it is to know that you sometimes work late and eat supper at work. What is your project? If these are two images from the same project, why is it that they are not connected? My project, which I thought you might have remembered, is to take a camera with me at work every day. I would take one lens only, sometimes zoom though and take my camera with me as I intake nutrition :). The project is about walking and seeing things, whatever they are. Boris
Don't need no stinkin' judges Was: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Oh Gawd! I'm so tired of all this what is a good photo, what is a bad photo shit! Who the frig cares! If you like it, enjoy it! If you don't like it, don't buy it! That's the way I approach cameras, motorcycles, booze, wallpaper - everything. As to what sells being the judge of art, what a crock! On the walls of my company's offices there is art. It's purpose is to break up the monotony of blank walls without drawing interest or attention to itself and without offending anybody. It serves it's purpose very well, so the crap sells like mad! My boss purchases the stuff by calling a local office supply store and saying, Bring in some art to break up the monotony of the offices, Yeah, about 2'x3' for the smaller offices and perhaps about 3'x4' for the larger offices. Nah, just send the abstract stuff. Offices everywhere have this insipid crap. It sells. Does that make it good? Noo. On the other hand, Michelangelo's David opened to bad reviews because it wasn't this and it wasn't that. For those who still think that the marketplace should determine what is good art, I have just two words - Andy Warhol. You want something that sells and a good marketing strategy? Take photos of nekkid tits, blow 'um up to 8x10 glossy. Stand on any corner near a junior high and hawk 'um to trans pubescent, pimple faced boys for a few $ a pop. Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing. - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV
Re: PESO: two images from my project
http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199955 http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199426 I like them both. Nice shots.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
lots of starving artists agree with you. that is why they are still starving. Herb - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! What a crock of shit!
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
then why are they different? Herb... - Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! the two photos in question have the same composition, exposure and vision. and you are full of it.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell to many paintings during his lifetime. There is an old Latin phrase which translates, There is no accounting for taste. Personally, my house is full of those velvet paintings of Elvis... Regards, Bob S. On 7/2/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read ALL of Herb's comments. He's evaluating the worth of a photo by its marketability. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 7/2/2005 7:03:22 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Shel Belinkoff wrote: Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. Herb didn't say if it will sell then it's a good photo nor did he imply it. Herb replied to someones heavy editing of someelse's image with the comment: the first one won't sell and the second one will. He didn't say that was the only way to evaluate an image. He didn't say the second one was a better image. All he said was that the second picture would sell better than the first one. That can be important to someone who needs to put food on the table and is a valid comment. I too think the second image would sell better. I sure as hell don't think it's a better image. Tom Reese
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Hell, I would have... Paul Stenquist wrote: So of course you fired up PhotoShop, made it pink, and pocketed the cash. Paul On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/2/2005 8:09:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. -- Some years ago, I made a print of wetlands at dawn with an abandoned lighthouse; delicate shot, almost looked like a pen and ink on watercolor. Anyhow, an interior decorator liked it and asked to show it to a client. A few days, she called and asked if I had the same shot in pink, Regards, Sonny http://www.sonc.com Natchitoches, Louisiana Oldest continuous settlement in La Louisiane égalité, liberté, crawfish -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: FS Friday/now with photos/Ltd lenses too
Ken, Same here in the USA. Thumbnails page opens fine, but none of the detailed pictures behind them. So are you keeping any Pentax equipment or switching format or...? Regards, Bob S. On 7/2/05, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Sorry guys, links may not have worked. Now I uploaded a quick and dirty thumb nail pages so that you can see enlarged photos by clicking each thumb nail. Skipped legends as PDMLers can tell which one is which so easily :-). See; http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pentaxgear.html Hope this link works (wanted to make each page open separately but I got to go now :-(. As I said, unlike most PDMlers, eBay was not my source of equip (should have been though), hence no PayPal etc but I am now trying to see if I could quickly make use of it. Ken, this very page opens. But non of sub-links work for me at least... They just produce an empty page... Boris
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
if no-one wants it, what is your vision worth then? i can't count the number of artists who think that a passionate vision makes up for talent. next thing you will tell me is that it's too good to be appreciated by mere mortals. Herb - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Read ALL of Herb's comments. He's evaluating the worth of a photo by its marketability.
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
there is still the stuff that never made it to your walls. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell to many paintings during his lifetime. There is an old Latin phrase which translates, There is no accounting for taste. Personally, my house is full of those velvet paintings of Elvis...
Re: July PUG is open
http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/05jul More than 1/2 of the shots were taken with an ist-D (over 60% if you count the -Ds). Not sure if that's a first, but I found it interesting nonetheless. - Jerome
Re: GESO: shots in New York
I've been to The Big Apple, but did not take that ferry ride, so thanks for letting me it through your eyes... I lived there for 16 years and had never taken that ferry ride. It took coming back as a tourist to see the statue of liberty, *and* a broadway show. Go figure :o)
Re: Buying lenses new - having a question
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Buying lenses new - having a question As Will Robb will confirm, a 60mm on the Digis becomes a 90, AAAHHH. Don't put my name to this sort of misinformation. Sorry, was just looking for the scream :-)) Kostas
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
They're collectors items now that the Elvis(TM) Presley has cracked down on selling them. A.) Keep um under wraps until the storm blows over B.) Sell them for a bundle as originals. Bob Sullivan wrote: Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell to many paintings during his lifetime. There is an old Latin phrase which translates, There is no accounting for taste. Personally, my house is full of those velvet paintings of Elvis... Regards, Bob S. On 7/2/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read ALL of Herb's comments. He's evaluating the worth of a photo by its marketability. Shel [Original Message] From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 7/2/2005 7:03:22 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Shel Belinkoff wrote: Herb's comment was simple: if it will sell it's a good photo. While your point has some validity, it is a softening of Herb's initial comment and contention that only a photograph that will sell is a good photograph. I stand by my statement that Herb is full of shit. Herb didn't say if it will sell then it's a good photo nor did he imply it. Herb replied to someones heavy editing of someelse's image with the comment: the first one won't sell and the second one will. He didn't say that was the only way to evaluate an image. He didn't say the second one was a better image. All he said was that the second picture would sell better than the first one. That can be important to someone who needs to put food on the table and is a valid comment. I too think the second image would sell better. I sure as hell don't think it's a better image. Tom Reese -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
PESO: My dragonfly...
Being inspired by Mark's stunning images I thought I'd try some bug shots myself. I wandered around the small park behind my house and came across this guy, who was kind enough to stay in one place long enough for me to take a few shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/23042647/ Nowhere close to Mark's work but a reasonable first attempt. Wish I could persuade them to pose with open wings like Mark does G. Pentax *istDS, Super Takumar 200mm, 56mm extension tubes, 1/400, F8, ISO200, handheld. -- Fred Widall, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall Images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/ --
Re: PESO - Contrasts
4th picture from the Southern Utah trip. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0271.htm Fantastic shot, Bruce. *Very* nice DOF. The foreground combined with the vivid view off the cliff really takes me there with you. What a novice like me would've done: Tried to shoot the foreground alone to get the colors and texture (this would've been a bad shot due to too much contrast) - or - tried to shoot the mountains in the distance alone (another horrible shot due to the haze). I would've never thought to combine the two as you've done (especially in those proportions!), which is what makes it brilliant to me. Thanks for another photo lesson. This is definitely my fav of the four. - Jerome
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
pretty good counter example to your position since people pay millions for a Van Gogh now. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell to many paintings during his lifetime. There is an old Latin phrase which translates, There is no accounting for taste.
Recomendations on where to upload public images
I have done some street shooting today, in fact for the first time in my life. Something has been holding me back. The idea makes me a bit shy. There is something about directing a lens at somebody. It is a statement, saying I find you appealing, or something like that. Anyway, I did it! And now I want to share it with you fellas. (If I'm happy with the result, havent looked at the files yet) This is my first steps at a dangerous new ladder. I hope it is leading to the photographic heaven, the ever lasting emulsion ;-) So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
PESO: subject interaction
Hi, here is a pair of shots I made a few weeks ago at a concert in our local botanic garden: http://www.vollholz.de/peso/frau_j.html (taken with my Vivitar S1 3.5/70-210 (2nd version) fairly wide open AFAIR, on superia 100) They made me think of the long discussion about sniping or interacting with persons to photograph. I can't say which of both is stronger and I don't feel the need to do so. I think they are completely diferent from each other. What is your oppinion? pancho
RE: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway
And I consider myself odd... After this I'll revise my self image. ;-) - Ops, there I did it again, wrote a word somebody can mock with (referring to image). BWT. Please have a new look at my ever changing signature. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. juli 2005 11:14 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway Hi! At the end I would like to draw attention my rewritten signature. Tim Not drunk, just plain Norwegian. Tim, this is photography club. You cannot draw attention... You can photograph though ;-). Boris (and his warped sense of humor)
RE: PESO: My dragonfly...
Nice shot Fred! Wander aound first thing on a morning when there is dew. They'll have their wings open to dry in the sun. Don -Original Message- From: Fred Widall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:43 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO: My dragonfly... Being inspired by Mark's stunning images I thought I'd try some bug shots myself. I wandered around the small park behind my house and came across this guy, who was kind enough to stay in one place long enough for me to take a few shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/23042647/ Nowhere close to Mark's work but a reasonable first attempt. Wish I could persuade them to pose with open wings like Mark does G. Pentax *istDS, Super Takumar 200mm, 56mm extension tubes, 1/400, F8, ISO200, handheld. -- Fred Widall, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall Images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/ --
Re: July PUG is open
Submissions for July start or end in July? Jerome Reyes wrote: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/05jul More than 1/2 of the shots were taken with an ist-D (over 60% if you count the -Ds). Not sure if that's a first, but I found it interesting nonetheless. - Jerome
Re: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway
Hi! And I consider myself odd... After this I'll revise my self image. ;-) - Ops, there I did it again, wrote a word somebody can mock with (referring to image). BWT. Please have a new look at my ever changing signature. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) Tim, I did not mean to come across as mocking. I think mockery is rather negative thing. I was merely trying to produce a joke. You should hear me speaking, then you'd be probably LOLing all over the place... Boris Binks of Moscow ;-)
Re: GESO: shots in New York
Hi! I've been to The Big Apple, but did not take that ferry ride, so thanks for letting me it through your eyes... I lived there for 16 years and had never taken that ferry ride. It took coming back as a tourist to see the statue of liberty, *and* a broadway show. Go figure :o) No, I am not going back to Moscow, no I am not going back to Moscow :-)... Though having lived there for 20 years ;-) I haven't seen all there is to see... As a matter of fact, I thought of going to the Freedom Island (is that the correct name?) but the weather did not permit that... Boris
RE: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway
Mocking, bad word, right. I was just playing along. In fact I did like the joke. I'm grown up with this kind of humour, my uncle, the red spot in frame fantast (I've mentioned him before) was a master with this kind of jokes. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. juli 2005 19:20 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway Hi! And I consider myself odd... After this I'll revise my self image. ;-) - Ops, there I did it again, wrote a word somebody can mock with (referring to image). BWT. Please have a new look at my ever changing signature. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) Tim, I did not mean to come across as mocking. I think mockery is rather negative thing. I was merely trying to produce a joke. You should hear me speaking, then you'd be probably LOLing all over the place... Boris Binks of Moscow ;-)
Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images
PnotoNet is very good if you ante up your twenty-five bucks. And of course some of the money goes to support an active photo community. Paul On Jul 2, 2005, at 11:58 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I have done some street shooting today, in fact for the first time in my life. Something has been holding me back. The idea makes me a bit shy. There is something about directing a lens at somebody. It is a statement, saying I find you appealing, or something like that. Anyway, I did it! And now I want to share it with you fellas. (If I'm happy with the result, haven’t looked at the files yet) This is my first steps at a dangerous new ladder. I hope it is leading to the photographic heaven, the ever lasting emulsion ;-) So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Re: PESO: subject interaction
The bokeh is smoother on the near out of focus than on the far, the Pentax 70-210mm does it the other way around. I actually like the out of focus leaves though. The second picture is stronger of course but for a reason, that women is asking: why the hell is that guy pointing that long lens at me? What I really would like would be a close-up stealth shot pancho hasselbach wrote: Hi, here is a pair of shots I made a few weeks ago at a concert in our local botanic garden: http://www.vollholz.de/peso/frau_j.html (taken with my Vivitar S1 3.5/70-210 (2nd version) fairly wide open AFAIR, on superia 100) They made me think of the long discussion about sniping or interacting with persons to photograph. I can't say which of both is stronger and I don't feel the need to do so. I think they are completely diferent from each other. What is your oppinion? pancho
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
Let me connect the dots for you Herb. You have said, if it doesn't sell, it is junk. I have pointed out that Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell during his lifetime. By your logic, his paintings were junk. But as luck would have it, taste changed (got better to my eye), and Vincent's paintings are now worth millions. So I would generalize and say that depending on current public taste to 'sell' anything as a judge for it's artistic merit or overall worth is a slippery slope to be standing on. You might want to move to firmer footing. Regards, Bob S. On 7/2/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pretty good counter example to your position since people pay millions for a Van Gogh now. Herb - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! Vincent Van Gogh didn't sell to many paintings during his lifetime. There is an old Latin phrase which translates, There is no accounting for taste.
Re: PESO: two images from my project
Hello Boris, The first shot has a nice compositional balance that makes it very nice to look at. On top of that, it offers an unusual perspective to a tall building - nice work. The second shot doesn't do much for me. The backgrounds need to have something to do with the presentation. As is, it just seems like someone on a bicycle waiting for the light to change. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 2, 2005, 8:03:03 AM, you wrote: BL Hi! BL http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199955 BL http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=199426 BL They are totally unrelated. The only connection between them is that I BL shot them during my lunch or supper time at work. BL Boris. BL P.S. I do stay late (until 11 pm) once every week. So sometimes I have BL to have supper at work.
Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images
Hi! I have done some street shooting today, in fact for the first time in my life. Something has been holding me back. The idea makes me a bit shy. There is something about directing a lens at somebody. It is a statement, saying I find you appealing, or something like that. Tim, I've been where you are for a long time. Eventually I took the dive and although I don't consider myself to be any good at it, but I don't hesitate to try. Also, thanks to quite a few folks here, I've received some quite invaluable advice. So, come on, show us your stuff! Anyway, I did it! And now I want to share it with you fellas. (If I'm happy with the result, haven’t looked at the files yet) This is my first steps at a dangerous new ladder. I hope it is leading to the photographic heaven, the ever lasting emulsion ;-) Hmmm, there is a small hotel district/town just nearby the Dead Sea. Jostein can attest to that ;-). I wonder how then shooting on the streets of this town would count... Kidding again, I know, but I am mostly harmless... So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Tim, if you want just to upload the files so that you can post the links here I can recommend either www.flickr.com (but some folks seem to despise it), or alternatively, you can use anything like www.geocities.com in order to build your own web pages. Though geocities have rather ugly interface if you stick to free subscription. I cannot recommend you any free of charge site where you can upload your stuff freely and get reasonable comments. There're two sites which I use. One is bi-lingual (English/Russian). The other is pure Russian. The former allows for 3 images to be uploaded every 7 days, which I think is reasonable. So you may want to point your browser to www.photoforum.ru and see if you like the rules. Feel free to approach me off-list if you have questions... Boris
Re: PESO: My dragonfly...
I think it's great that you were inspired and willing to share. I have had precious little luck in photographing bug like Mark. I think you are on the right road - found, captured and now to find out the little things that make Mark's really stand out - I suspect that lots of practice is involved. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 2, 2005, 8:43:04 AM, you wrote: FW Being inspired by Mark's stunning images I thought I'd FW try some bug shots myself. I wandered around the small FW park behind my house and came across this guy, who was FW kind enough to stay in one place long enough for me to FW take a few shots. FW http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/23042647/ FW Nowhere close to Mark's work but a reasonable first FW attempt. Wish I could persuade them to pose with open FW wings like Mark does G. FW Pentax *istDS, Super Takumar 200mm, 56mm extension tubes, FW 1/400, F8, ISO200, handheld. FW -- FW Fred Widall, FW Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FW URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall FW Images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/ FW --
Re: Photoshop CS Book
Check the Barnes and Noble website. http://www.bn.com They list the CS and CS2 version of both books. Both titles are very good. If you're purchasing CS2 make sure you get the CS2 version of the book. There is quite a bit of added function in CS2. The replacement of the browser with the Bridge program is a pretty big difference. You might also want to check out Photoshop CS2 Classroom In a Book by Adobe. It's more of a structured step by step approach, including a few video lesson and all of the exercise materials on a CD. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net On 7/2/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/7/05, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi guys Which book exdplaining Photoshop CS is especially recommendable? Thanks Jens Bladt I would recommend these two: http://tinyurl.com/d72hd http://tinyurl.com/boopx I think both will have German versions, and the last one does have a CS version (could only see the CS2 version on Amazon UK) HTH Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: July PUG is open
End in June (20th), submissions for August are being accepted now. Joaquim Carvalho wrote: Submissions for July start or end in July? Jerome Reyes wrote: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/05jul More than 1/2 of the shots were taken with an ist-D (over 60% if you count the -Ds). Not sure if that's a first, but I found it interesting nonetheless. - Jerome -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: FS Friday/now with photos/Ltd lenses too
On 7/02/05 11:22 AM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here in the USA. Thumbnails page opens fine, but none of the detailed pictures behind them. So are you keeping any Pentax equipment or switching format or...? Hello Bob, Thank you for pointing this out, along by others. I think you can see them now. Quick dirty job always ends up like this :-). Now I checked on my computer and things look OK. If you still cannot see them, I am going to take a nap first and go about it again :-). No, I'm not jumping the ship :-). I still have PZ-1p, 77MM Ltd Black and recently secured an FA50/1.4 and an FA35/2.0. I have several Canon lenses and a 35mm film body (and an APS too :-). These and a 645N kit will take care of my film needs, although PZ-1p seems like being orphaned. It is a big camera but I like it so much. But is not a digital after all, and time to say good bye to it. Sad. I am partial to a very portable, compact and light cameras (and lenses), and actually MZ3 was ideal for my film need but thought I would sell it while it would fetch some value. I do not know if I am doing anything rational here, though :-). Canon G3 has been satisfying most of my digital snap shooting need till now but it of course has limitations. What I want to do is to start the DSLR package with Pentax (of course) as I like their body (better view finder, compact size and AA batteries etc etc). I looked at 20D and RebelXT just because I have Canon lenses, but their lenses are generally too big, and *ist Ds more than satisfy my present needs (felt RebelXT was too small. Strange). So, I wish to start a new lens line up, a more compact kit. My next purchase would be a DA100mm Macro. 77mm would be a nice portrait lens. I have also to get a wide angle zoom DA 16mm〜45mmF4. I really do not mind an APS sized chip and actually wish them stay for a long while. FF size CCD would be nice but if it comes with the penalty of size/weight of body/lens, I am not interested in. On a flash front, I am going to buy an AF360FGZ. AF500FTZ is an excellent flash but is too big for me. I still even treasure an ancient AF16 manual flash for the indoor people shooting :-). It is so tiny and does not get in my way. It fits in my pocket easily. Most of the time when I need a flash, I do not need max power like 500FTZ (but I might buy a 500FGZ if it comes out compact). Every once in a while, I get an urge to start fresh. And PDML is another reason for staying with Pentax :-). Cheers, Ken
PESO: Oklahoma City National Memorial
I recently visited the Oklahoma City National Memorial with my two sons. Here are are some photos and a couple of video clips. http://georges.smugmug.com/gallery/618589 This is the memorial to those who were killed in the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in 1995. Not knowing what to expect, we thought we would spend a half-an-hour or so seeing the memorial. As it turns out we spent over three hours at the outdoor memorial and indoor museum. It's very well done and quite an experience. No photography is allowed in the museum. Given the nature of the material, photos wouldn't be very effective anyway. Some things must be experienced in person. That said, there is no way these photos can convey the feeling of the actual site. If you are ever in the area of Oklahoma City, it is worth spending some time to experience it for yourself. A note on the videos. They are just a couple of long panning shots to provide a feel for the layout. That said, they are several Mbytes each and if you're not on a high speed connection should be skipped. See you later, gs http://www.georgesphotos.net
Street photo once more (was RE: Recomendations on where to upload public images)
Today, Mostly harmless Boris wrote: Tim, I've been where you are for a long time. Eventually I took the dive [snip] Hmmm, there is a small hotel district/town just nearby the Dead Sea. Jostein can attest to that ;-). I wonder how then shooting on the streets of this town would count... Kidding again, I know, but I am mostly harmless... The population of the town does not count, what counts is the size of the lens. The lens I used today was my Sigma 18-50/2,8 so this is street photo. I know, it is supposed to be done the hard way, with a real lens, a prime, preferably in BW. ;-) I'll probably upload my attempts in street photo later today or tomorrow. Tim Totally harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. juli 2005 19:53 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images Hi! I have done some street shooting today, in fact for the first time in my life. Something has been holding me back. The idea makes me a bit shy. There is something about directing a lens at somebody. It is a statement, saying I find you appealing, or something like that. Tim, I've been where you are for a long time. Eventually I took the dive and although I don't consider myself to be any good at it, but I don't hesitate to try. Also, thanks to quite a few folks here, I've received some quite invaluable advice. So, come on, show us your stuff! Anyway, I did it! And now I want to share it with you fellas. (If I'm happy with the result, havent looked at the files yet) This is my first steps at a dangerous new ladder. I hope it is leading to the photographic heaven, the ever lasting emulsion ;-) Hmmm, there is a small hotel district/town just nearby the Dead Sea. Jostein can attest to that ;-). I wonder how then shooting on the streets of this town would count... Kidding again, I know, but I am mostly harmless... So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Tim, if you want just to upload the files so that you can post the links here I can recommend either www.flickr.com (but some folks seem to despise it), or alternatively, you can use anything like www.geocities.com in order to build your own web pages. Though geocities have rather ugly interface if you stick to free subscription. I cannot recommend you any free of charge site where you can upload your stuff freely and get reasonable comments. There're two sites which I use. One is bi-lingual (English/Russian). The other is pure Russian. The former allows for 3 images to be uploaded every 7 days, which I think is reasonable. So you may want to point your browser to www.photoforum.ru and see if you like the rules. Feel free to approach me off-list if you have questions... Boris
RE: Recomendations on where to upload public images
Forgot; thank you for the links Boris ;-) Think I'll try Flickr.com Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. juli 2005 19:53 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images Hi! I have done some street shooting today, in fact for the first time in my life. Something has been holding me back. The idea makes me a bit shy. There is something about directing a lens at somebody. It is a statement, saying I find you appealing, or something like that. Tim, I've been where you are for a long time. Eventually I took the dive and although I don't consider myself to be any good at it, but I don't hesitate to try. Also, thanks to quite a few folks here, I've received some quite invaluable advice. So, come on, show us your stuff! Anyway, I did it! And now I want to share it with you fellas. (If I'm happy with the result, havent looked at the files yet) This is my first steps at a dangerous new ladder. I hope it is leading to the photographic heaven, the ever lasting emulsion ;-) Hmmm, there is a small hotel district/town just nearby the Dead Sea. Jostein can attest to that ;-). I wonder how then shooting on the streets of this town would count... Kidding again, I know, but I am mostly harmless... So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Tim, if you want just to upload the files so that you can post the links here I can recommend either www.flickr.com (but some folks seem to despise it), or alternatively, you can use anything like www.geocities.com in order to build your own web pages. Though geocities have rather ugly interface if you stick to free subscription. I cannot recommend you any free of charge site where you can upload your stuff freely and get reasonable comments. There're two sites which I use. One is bi-lingual (English/Russian). The other is pure Russian. The former allows for 3 images to be uploaded every 7 days, which I think is reasonable. So you may want to point your browser to www.photoforum.ru and see if you like the rules. Feel free to approach me off-list if you have questions... Boris
Re: Any free online course/tutorials about Photoshop (and co.) ?
Search for Photoshop tutorial and you will find enough to keep you busy for five or ten years. And that is about how long it takes to start to master PhotoShop. Here are a few from Adobe. First is a search for PhotoShop Basic in Adobe Studio which gives six pages of results. http://studio.adobe.com/us/search/sort?sort=topicproduct=15topic=0type=Tu toriallevel=Basicx=10y=12 http://www.adobe.com/digitalimag/ps_pro_primers.html http://www.adobe.com/products/tips/photoshop.html Have fun Powell Dunno much about Photoshop except resizing and such but would really like to learn how to get my photos even better... -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX and KR-10x ...
Re: FS Friday/now with photos/Ltd lenses too
Hi! No, I'm not jumping the ship :-). I still have PZ-1p, 77MM Ltd Black and recently secured an FA50/1.4 and an FA35/2.0. I have several Canon lenses and a 35mm film body (and an APS too :-). These and a 645N kit will take care of my film needs, although PZ-1p seems like being orphaned. It is a big camera but I like it so much. But is not a digital after all, and time to say good bye to it. Sad. Ken, does it mean that you actually *preferred* FA 50/1.4 to 43 Lim? I am curious. Thanks. Boris
Re: PESO: My dragonfly...
Fred Widall wrote: Being inspired by Mark's stunning images I thought I'd try some bug shots myself. I wandered around the small park behind my house and came across this guy, who was kind enough to stay in one place long enough for me to take a few shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fwwidall/23042647/ Nowhere close to Mark's work but a reasonable first attempt. Wish I could persuade them to pose with open wings like Mark does G. Pentax *istDS, Super Takumar 200mm, 56mm extension tubes, 1/400, F8, ISO200, handheld. Great series of photos, Fred. You got some decent ones of Hawaii, but Maui needs to be represented a little more! keith whaley
Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters!
read the original post. mishka On 7/2/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then why are they different? Herb... - Original Message - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Don't need no stinkin' filters! the two photos in question have the same composition, exposure and vision. and you are full of it.
Re: Recomendations on where to upload public images
Here's a couple of sites: www.webaperture.com (free) www.photosig.com (paysite) www.photo.net (paysite) www.fotocommunity.com (paysite) Even though webaperture is free, I don't like it. Fotocommunity is my favourite. Simple design, and you get a lot of storage space for your money. Jostein - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: Recomendations on where to upload public images I have done some street shooting today, in fact for the first time in my life. Something has been holding me back. The idea makes me a bit shy. There is something about directing a lens at somebody. It is a statement, saying I find you appealing, or something like that. Anyway, I did it! And now I want to share it with you fellas. (If I'm happy with the result, haven't looked at the files yet) This is my first steps at a dangerous new ladder. I hope it is leading to the photographic heaven, the ever lasting emulsion ;-) So now I have a question for you. My regular site foto.no will not allow me more than two submissions a week. This is more. Anyone having any recommendations on where to look for the perfect site? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Re: PDML Bergen Brygge, Norway (was RE: GESO: Aker Brygge, Oslo, Norway)
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's TBPDML Okay, I give up. What's the T and the B? Jostein
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
Thanks, Paul! On second look, I agree with you completely. Needed my home screen to see it though. Jostein (back in Oslo) - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark Nice. Just the right DOF to carry this. If it were mine, I would crop the empty space off the top and a bit off the right as well. Paul On Jun 30, 2005, at 6:18 AM, Jostein wrote: Hi gang, http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Tell what you think. Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
- Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Crop an inch off the top and I'll take it :-) :-) I'll send you a print. Hope you find a new home with lotsa walls, man! Jostein
PESO: no fun
Hi, I saw this young lady some weeks ago when I was in Wetzlar, the next town to Giessen which is where I live http://www.vollholz.de/peso/no_fun.html (taken with FA 43 Ltd on superia 100) For those who don't know, Wetzlar is the home of Leica :-) There are some points in the photo I'm not really happy with, apart from focus (which does not always matter as I understood) it's the framing. I find the pole on the lower left distractive, but I didn't want to cut off from the sun. Anyway, it was catch it or leave it and I think I caught. Comments welcome! pancho
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
See what you mean, Boris. Throughout the holiday, I had problems concentrating properly when out shooting. I'm pretty sure it was the pollen concentration in the air. Last night, I prepped myself to saturation with anti-allergy chemistry and dared a trip into the fields. Normally, it's just my eyes and nose that gets it, so I thought I was safe. After 15 minutes walking in the field, my legs began to itch from contact with the grass. The rash is still there now, 24 hours later. :-( However, I really look forward to see the pics on my calibrated screen if there's any more suitable raw material for a PESO or two. Hopefully there's at least something... Thanks for the comment, Boris. Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark Hi! Hi gang, http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Tell what you think. Somehow it is not difficult for me to imagine you crouching on the grass getting the shot ;-)... I wonder if beer has anything to do with the tilt ;-)... Seriously, it is very good shot, Jostein. But it lacks something that I am used to seeing you in your work. May be it simply the fact that it is more or less just two-dimensional, may be it is something else... It is good, but it is not jolly good... Boris
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
It was too bad we crossed paths, Jens. It would have been great to see you again. Hopefully next time! Jostein - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark Beautiful, Jostein. It's funny, that you were in Denmark, while I was in Norway :-) Cheers Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 30. juni 2005 12:18 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO - Weeds of Denmark Hi gang, http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3479/display/3436741 Tell what you think. Cheers, Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re:PESO: two images from my project
Boris, I really like the first shot. Although I am a little biased towards building shots since I am an architect. For me what works is not only the point of view, but the contrast between built and the natural. Oh yeah the composition and choice of border works well too. JayT
Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark
Thanks, Ken and Mike. You guys are too kind. Jostein - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Weeds of Denmark Kenneth Waller wrote: I'm not sure I'd have taken it myself One of the great strengths of Jostein's photography. I would probably word it Not sure I would have spotted it, myself.
