Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!
Having recently faced the fact that I was going to have to start shooting RAW, I did just that. I haven't gone through the whole thing yet, but so far it looks like the real thing. Just came back from a county Fair with 600 RAW shots, so I'll be trying it out soon. At 6:56 PM -0700 7/16/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Rather than my attempting to train you, pick up a copy of Bruce Fraser's "Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2". He details how to work high volume batch processing with Photoshop CS2 and shows you how to take advantage of Camera Raw's presets to minimize frame by frame tweaking. With Vuescan it's simple: set up a basic adjustment pattern, then use Vuescan's ability to process PEF files. Fast and pretty simple. It's not as interactive to set up, however. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Mishka wrote: i have both, vuescan and cs2. could you give me the specifics of how you do it? I found that processing raw in cs2 requires tweaking brightness and shadows for (almost) every frame. best, mishka On 7/16/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmm. I never presumed that moving to digital would be faster to get my prints done, although it does turn out that way a good bit of the time. I take forever to select and work my photographs ... ;-) Compared to scanning film and post processing, it's much faster. For a good solution to batch processing RAW, you should probably look at Capture One. I use Photoshop CS2 + Camera Raw 3.1 for this, it works well once you learn how to do it, but I also use Vuescan which does very good batch processing as a background process. Godfrey -- Alan P. Hayes Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design Pittsfield, Massachusetts Photographs at http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm http://del.icio.us/ahayes
Re: Definitions
Kevin, whadya' need a gun for? You have other options, sharp pointed stick, a heavy club. Hunting was done this way for centuries. Now wildly veering off topic. I was watching a doco last night about the Christian Coalition's campaign to rid US airwaves of "morally indecent" TV & Radio. Anyway, this one Miami "Shock Jock" who had been fired by the radio station he had worked for for 15 years was proudly showing off his AR-15 with scope & .308 rifle with high power scope & bi-pod to the French film makers when he said, "I can buy a gun that can kill a hundred people, but I can't say f**k on the air" I know this has nothing to do with the quality of produce at fast food joints, but I found it quite funny... in a scary kind of way. Dave On 7/17/05, Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I was never keen on takeaway food before but that's me finished, for ever. > > Thats why I am a vegetarian. Or suedo Vege.. > ei. I won't eat anything I have not killed myself. And I rarely get the > opportunity or inclination to out and kill something. Now the > Govt has taken all our guns away, all I can do is enjoy some fishing > now and again. Which is just fine by me. > > Kind regards > Kevin > > > -- > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." > >
Re: Tip for ist D eye cup
Joseph Tainter a écrit : I'll see your tip and raise you one: Get a little black rubber band to place around the eye-cup at the base. If you have women at your place, chances are there's a stash of these bands, just the right size, in your bathroom. If you don't have women about, go to the camera clinic at GFM and get one from Mark Roberts. You COULD just go to he store and get a box of them for like thirty cents but GFM is well worth the extra expense. My tip for eye cup, the same for *istD and MZ-S: (french) http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/trucs/trucs.htm#cache
Re: Tip for ist D eye cup
I've got a woman, but I'm not aware of any little black rubber bands around the place. I'll check again, but if I still don't find any, is it some particular kind of woman you have to have? At 7:59 AM -0400 7/16/05, cbwaters wrote: I'll see your tip and raise you one: Get a little black rubber band to place around the eye-cup at the base. If you have women at your place, chances are there's a stash of these bands, just the right size, in your bathroom. If you don't have women about, go to the camera clinic at GFM and get one from Mark Roberts. You COULD just go to he store and get a box of them for like thirty cents but GFM is well worth the extra expense. CW - Original Message - From: "Charles Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 2:25 AM Subject: Tip for ist D eye cup Dear All, Recently lost my eye cup for the ist D. In my desperation I tried the eye cup from my MZ - 5n and to my surprise I found it fitted, even better much tighter fit than the original ist D one. Regards Charles Wilson Sydney, Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 7/15/2005 -- Alan P. Hayes Meaning and Form: Writing, Editing and Document Design Pittsfield, Massachusetts Photographs at http://www.ahayesphoto.com/americandead/index.htm http://del.icio.us/ahayes
Re: Theory of Equivalency
Well, the original question or comment in this thread was posted by me. It had nothing to do with DOF, but the thread has morphed into arguments about DOF. OriginallyI suggested that, while the FOV of an 18m on the Pentax and similar DSLR cameras were about the same as a 28mm lens on a film-based 35mm SLR, I noted that somehow they view didn't look the same. Tom Reese suggested the perspectives were different, and then all the technical reasons why that could or couldn't be so surface. He was voted down in his belief, and changed his opinion, and then the DOF arguments started in earnest. Well, this afternoon another list member and I got together. She's not read this thread and is far removed from the technical aspects of this and other areas of photography. The 18mm was put on her istDs, the 28mm on my Pentax body SLR. She looked through the finders of both and concluded that "objects seemed further away" wih the 18mm/DLR combination, supporting that, at least as viewed through the finder the images are not the same, only equivalent in some dimensions or, perhaps, depending on yourefiniation, superficially. We then made a few shots with the two camera/lens combinations. She's going to send me the JPEGs from the digi and I'll get the film processed after the weekend. The pics will be posted here and you all canargue about the validity of the test and whatever else pleases you. To our eyes today, theyare not equivalent - they are not the same. Well see what they look like when posted here, perhaps Tuesday or Wednesday. Shel > [Original Message] > From: William Robb > We have an old adage: The proof is in the pudding. > Since this is a visual medium we are talking about, visual comparisons > (comparative prints, for example) are the best way of comparing the > different formats. > Doing so eliminates all the confusing technobabble that is both tiresome and > obfuscating. > > At least that's what I think. > Not that what I think matter to anyone other than my dawg. > > William Robb >
Re: OT: Special sauce (RE: -- Re: Definitions
On Jul 17, 2005, at 1:50 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: The English Mc Ds are particularly gruesome, they are much better here not that I indulge unless under duress. I gave up on all that stuff about 4 years ago after deciding that I was eating it too often, and it really wasn't that satisfying either. Nowadays there is only one burger joint and one pizza shop that I bother with because they're head & shoulders above the others. They're both NZ-based franchises. I still do fish & chips occasionally but even then I'm a bit fussy about where I get them from as the quality varies greatly. Nowadays we seem to buy dinner maybe once or twice a month, down from once or twice a week. BTW I'm sure you've all seen Super Size Me. For those who haven't, it's worth watching. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera
The local Environmental Agency outlawed coal powered appliances last year. A real bummer! Shel > [Original Message] > From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 7/16/2005 12:29:06 PM > Subject: Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera > > Kerosene, converted to cooking oil, Shel you modernist, I'd have thought > you'd be using coal. > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >It's an old, kerosene powered TV converted to run on used cooking oil. > > > >Shel
Re: Paw:GFM Pic # 9. IR Shot #1
Dave, I have looked right down that road, but of course, I saw it in color. Didn't take a picture there, but yours, I like. The IR really makes the ordinary scene come alive somehow. Nice shot! -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 16, 2005, 5:27:26 PM, you wrote: bcin> bcin> http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=GFM_ROAD.jpg bcin> Well i'v finished cleaning the ring dust of the 70-200VR F2.8 and getting ready for bcin> Sundays show, so bcin> i thought i'd relax with some scanning. bcin> This is a shot taken Saturday after dropping Frank off at bcin> the parking lot to meet Mark on bcin> his epic bcin> journey into the bowels of GFM. Well actually not quite, bcin> but you get the idea.:-)(Dennis bcin> Moore, bcin> Dennis Moore, sorry i panic'd) bcin> Any way, i took a roll up by the swing bridge and this is bcin> a favorite of mine. Took some bcin> time to get bcin> these shots as the sun was only partial and was still misty. bcin> Tourists thought i was nuts waiting and waiting. bcin> Anyway i hope you enjoy this one and i have scanned another for the next Paw. bcin> Comments are welcome bcin> PZ-1 with 28-105 PZ and Tiffen #25 red filter. Kodak HIE bcin> film at 125, F11 ish(did a lot of bcin> bracketing in these shots) bcin> Dave
Re: PAW - "Clouds at Lake Tekapo"
On Jul 17, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: But I do a comment on your site design. Why don't you have just one title line? "David Mann - Picture A Week" Instead of: "David Mann Picture A Week" I don't know :) I might change it... Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
RE: Theory of Equivalency
That's correct William. I meant to point out that the dof effects being witnessed were not a consequence of dof theory, but a consequence of the digital capture process. But it walks like a duck, and it sounds like a duck, so it MUST be a duck. In this case the duck is greater dof in APS sized bayer array sensors, not because they are APS sized (that can still be argued but not by me) but because they are bayer array sensors. regards, Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > We have an old adage: The proof is in the pudding. > Since this is a visual medium we are talking about, visual comparisons > (comparative prints, for example) are the best way of comparing the > different formats. > Doing so eliminates all the confusing technobabble that is both tiresome and > obfuscating. > > At least that's what I think. > Not that what I think matter to anyone other than my dawg. > > William Robb
Re: Wow, Canvas "is" dead (Was maybe film *is* dead!)
This one time, at band camp, "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think regardless of cost, film will survive. When the first Black and > > White > > photos became comercially available I can almost here the artists > > screaming... > > There are a couple of key differences at play here. > Few people can paint well, it's always been that way. > Most people can take a decent photograph, providing they have a camera of > some sort. I could put a new Blad in the hands of a novice and they may produce a snapshot. I could but a disposable camera in the hands of a photographer and the results would be far better. We actually did this at our local camera club, although not with a Blad > Photography was not really competition for painting as an art form so much > as a democratizer, in that all of a sudden, most anyone could make good > "art". I agree here to the point of what the beholder calls art. > Digital imaging is a direct competitor to about 98% of film's customers, and > is becoming very widely accepted by that customer base, and is being pushed > very hard as a desirable alternative to film by both manufacturers and the > service industry. > > Painting is still being taught in most every art school, photography schools > are abandoning film entirely. > > The people aren't buying it anymore, the artists aren't being taught with it > anymore. In some areas this is not so. In my area there are many photography schools using film. Most of these wish to teach darkroom skills etc so that the art is not lost, much as painting is still taught. > > Every lab operator I talk to is saying film processing volumes are in > freefall. > We've dropped another 10% since Christmas, and film processing is less than > 40% of it's peak volume of 3 years ago, which was our busiest year since we > started doing photoprocessing in Canada. Even I am part of this, yesterday I had printed from digital 240 shots and later processed a single roll of 120 in my darkroom > Further, half of our film processing is now single use cameras, which > eventually will be the only film available, I am betting sooner rather than > later on this one. > You might want to learn how to optimize Kodak Max800, it's what you are > going to be shooting in a couple of years from now. > Unless you are shooting digital, that is. I think 120 film will servive a litte longer > I know this is an unpopular outlook, but it is what I am seeing, working > within the industry. I don't like it, but I have to be realistic about the > trends I am seeing in my industry. Unpopular or not, it is mostly realistic. At the same time I believe it is is up to the photographers of today to pass on the art to the next generation so that the art is no lost. I wonder if the Greeks have a word meaning "Painting with Pixels"? Kind regards Kevin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Re: Theory of Equivalency
On Jul 16, 2005, at 7:55 PM, Anthony Farr wrote: Consider that each pixel of Bayer array capture is interpolated against its eight neighbouring pixels, and each of those neighbouring pixels is likewise interpolated against its eight neighbours, and so forth across the entire entire sensor. So it is apparent that there is an erosion of the dof principle here, and that what you witness when you view a digital photo is not the natural dof of a particular lens but a dof that has been substancially altered by the digital process. Spatial resolution, captured as luminance, is not interpolated. Color value, captured and rendered by the Bayer, in interpolated. DOF has to do with spatial resolution, not color value. The only ways that digital dof can be compared to analog dof would be to capture on a monochrome sensor, on a Foveon sensor, or to analyse the uninterpolated RAW image of a Bayer arrayed sensor. Well, as Bill Robb said, I can take a picture on a piece of film and I can take a picture with a digital camera and compare them pretty easily. Godfrey
Re: Wow, Canvas "is" dead (Was maybe film *is* dead!)
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Waterson" Subject: Wow, Canvas "is" dead (Was maybe film *is* dead!) I think regardless of cost, film will survive. When the first Black and White photos became comercially available I can almost here the artists screaming... There are a couple of key differences at play here. Few people can paint well, it's always been that way. Most people can take a decent photograph, providing they have a camera of some sort. Photography was not really competition for painting as an art form so much as a democratizer, in that all of a sudden, most anyone could make good "art". Digital imaging is a direct competitor to about 98% of film's customers, and is becoming very widely accepted by that customer base, and is being pushed very hard as a desirable alternative to film by both manufacturers and the service industry. Painting is still being taught in most every art school, photography schools are abandoning film entirely. The people aren't buying it anymore, the artists aren't being taught with it anymore. Every lab operator I talk to is saying film processing volumes are in freefall. We've dropped another 10% since Christmas, and film processing is less than 40% of it's peak volume of 3 years ago, which was our busiest year since we started doing photoprocessing in Canada. Further, half of our film processing is now single use cameras, which eventually will be the only film available, I am betting sooner rather than later on this one. You might want to learn how to optimize Kodak Max800, it's what you are going to be shooting in a couple of years from now. Unless you are shooting digital, that is. I know this is an unpopular outlook, but it is what I am seeing, working within the industry. I don't like it, but I have to be realistic about the trends I am seeing in my industry. William Robb
Wow, Canvas "is" dead (Was maybe film *is* dead!)
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > . I picked up the slides today and they > certainly look fine. But > > at $17.00+ for processing! Granted, they were pushed one stop, for which > > some sort of extra fee is understandable, but that kind of pricing is > > still going to have me thinking twice before shooting slides. > > Phewww. Thats dear. The local "Pro" lab near work still does E6, same day if > submitted > before > 3:00pm. My last roll was processed, mounted for $12.00 Can.The $17.00 US is > pretty high > eh. I think regardless of cost, film will survive. When the first Black and White photos became comercially available I can almost here the artists screaming... Kind regards Kevin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Re: Definitions
This one time, at band camp, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was never keen on takeaway food before but that's me finished, for ever. Thats why I am a vegetarian. Or suedo Vege.. ei. I won't eat anything I have not killed myself. And I rarely get the opportunity or inclination to out and kill something. Now the Govt has taken all our guns away, all I can do is enjoy some fishing now and again. Which is just fine by me. Kind regards Kevin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
Re: Proof that I suck.
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Proof that I suck. I think Tim was referring to my 31 Bill. I did have a cheap black Hoya on it at the time the shot was taken. It has since been removed. I can't get Pentax filters here (silver or otherwise). Any of the Aussie lister's know where to get them? Right. Sorry Tim. Pentax Canada is pretty good about getting stuff. Read more from me on this soon. William Robb
Re: Theory of Equivalency
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Farr" Subject: RE: Theory of Equivalency The only ways that digital dof can be compared to analog dof would be to capture on a monochrome sensor, on a Foveon sensor, or to analyse the uninterpolated RAW image of a Bayer arrayed sensor. Comparison photos of digital versus analog in any other form are NOT equal comparisons of dof between formats, only an illustration of how digital capture has changed the rules. We have an old adage: The proof is in the pudding. Since this is a visual medium we are talking about, visual comparisons (comparative prints, for example) are the best way of comparing the different formats. Doing so eliminates all the confusing technobabble that is both tiresome and obfuscating. At least that's what I think. Not that what I think matter to anyone other than my dawg. William Robb
Re: OT: Darkroom temperature control.
- Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" Subject: Re: OT: Darkroom temperature control. Unfortunately the tap water here runs 70-74 degrees at its coldest in summer. -- I have seen (but never patronized) photo-processing places in Mali, where I have experienced temperatures of 140 F (60 C). These places do not have any sort of cooling. I have always wondered how they process film. I suspect that they just do it at whatever temperature the water and chemicals happen to be at. All the labs that I have run have had liquid cooling available. This ability is dependant on a cool water supply though. Emulsion will fall off the film at temperatures not much more than 50ºC, and the C-41 process, while bombproof, will kaak entirely at about 50ºC as well, as that is when the chemistry separates. I expect they are doing some sort of cooling. William Robb
Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> those who are "pissed eagles" are safe either in armored cars, or in the middle of nowhere. pretty convenient. This is an error in logic commonly called a "Hasty generalization" (Secundum quid). Land Rovers are not (commonly) armored and mine is factory stock. I live and work in LA, not generally considered to be "nowhere." Your view is... parochial. Regards, Bob... - "The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing." - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV
Re: PESO: City Hall where I work
Hi! Markus Rådhus means City Hall. So you are quite right, it is rathouse. The house where the rats work ;-) Just for the record, it is Towns Hall. In Russian we have a word "Ratusha" which means the same... Wonder if this is yet another word we borrowed from the Vikings :-)... Boris
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
I'm not crazy about the idea of IS, in body or lens based. Sure, it would be useful for some situations, but it has its limitations from my point of view. What I would *much* rather be able to do is push shutter speed up by having better performance at high ISO. The advantages of this over an equivalent X-stop gain due to moving lens elements or sensor are clear to me. Subject movement is one of the obvious reasons here - some things will be blurred at slow shutter speeds regardless of how steady the camera is. High shutter speed can reduce this. I don't think there are any IS/VR macro lenses, and I'd be surprised if high-mag macro worked very well with AS. My reasoning here is that moving the camera forward/back can't be compensated for by moving the sensor in X&Y (correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the KM sensor moves forward/back to compensate for focus changes?) Also, to my knowledge the IS/VR systems don't compensate for this. In macro, it's hard to explain, but it seems to me that due to the proximity of the subject, camera movement (up/down, left/right rather than just the direction it's pointing) actually significantly changes the actual projected image, not just where the image falls. Some macro subjects are also very fast moving, so subject movement is something to think about too. Needless to say, a higher shutter speed doesn't have any complications for macro work. So if I had to choose between IS/VR/AS or better sensitivity, I know what I'd pick any day. If I could have both though, it would be nice (-: /me drools over clicking away happily at a noiseless 6400 ASA equivalent, with an antishake sensor and IS/VR lens all at once. Cheers, David
RE: Theory of Equivalency
I'll commit a cardinal sin of mailing lists/forums here by replying before I've read the whole thread to date, but as I'm a few hundred messages short of reading all, and as new messages are arriving faster than I can read the old ones, I'll jump in. Forgive me if this has already been addressed. Without getting into the dof debate, which is a tired and IMO unwinnable argument, what is being experienced here is nothing to do with dof and everything to do with interpolation. Consider that each pixel of Bayer array capture is interpolated against its eight neighbouring pixels, and each of those neighbouring pixels is likewise interpolated against its eight neighbours, and so forth across the entire entire sensor. So it is apparent that there is an erosion of the dof principle here, and that what you witness when you view a digital photo is not the natural dof of a particular lens but a dof that has been substancially altered by the digital process. The only ways that digital dof can be compared to analog dof would be to capture on a monochrome sensor, on a Foveon sensor, or to analyse the uninterpolated RAW image of a Bayer arrayed sensor. Comparison photos of digital versus analog in any other form are NOT equal comparisons of dof between formats, only an illustration of how digital capture has changed the rules. regards, Anthony Farr > -Original Message- > From: DagT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 14 July 2005 3:29 PM (snip) > >> > > > > Depth of field will differ, with the smaller format generating more > > DOF at any given aperture. > > Not sure by how much exactly, I expect you will probably open up a > > full stop to get similar DOF from APS C sized digital as compared to > > 35mm. > > > > William Robb > > One step is the usual rule. Which means that I need an 18mm 1.4 to get > an equivalent to my 28 2.0... > > DagT > http://dag.foto.no
Re: Another istD road trip and version question
Markus, It didn't work after the download. I went back to the control panel and installed the drivers. Works fine now. Bob On 7/16/05, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bob > and don't forget to **first** install the drivers and second after that plug > in the camera. > The other way around could leave you with a unrecognized device in Windows > and it will not work. > greetings > Markus > > > > > >>And I just used the site to download the S4 drivers to my laptop. > > > >> > >
Re: The real sensor issue ...
i end up cleaning my sensor every couple of days i shoot. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:10 PM Subject: Re: The real sensor issue ... If you have a lens that stops down to f32 or f45 shoot some clear sky and you'll likely get quite a surprise at how much dust has settled on the sensor!
Re: The real sensor issue ...
On 16 Jul 2005 at 14:05, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: > http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/retouch/IMGP0697.jpg > > http://members.safe-t.net/dpconsult/retouch/IMGP0697_issue.jpg If you have a lens that stops down to f32 or f45 shoot some clear sky and you'll likely get quite a surprise at how much dust has settled on the sensor! Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Proof that I suck.
I think Tim was referring to my 31 Bill. I did have a cheap black Hoya on it at the time the shot was taken. It has since been removed. I can't get Pentax filters here (silver or otherwise). Any of the Aussie lister's know where to get them? Dave On 7/17/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > Wrom: VOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKY > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 5:44 PM > Subject: RE: Proof that I suck. > > > >I still see a black thing in front of the lens. But if you say so... > > Thereby (or whatever the correct word is), this proves that I suck ;-) > > > > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/77LTD/pages/IMGP8242.html > > William Robb > > >
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
the 7D and the 7 are both large cameras. i have a friend who has both. the *ist and *istD are both smaller. Herb - Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: Re: In-Body Image Stabilization Perhaps that's one reason why the KM D7 feels so enormous in the hand.
Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!
Rather than my attempting to train you, pick up a copy of Bruce Fraser's "Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2". He details how to work high volume batch processing with Photoshop CS2 and shows you how to take advantage of Camera Raw's presets to minimize frame by frame tweaking. With Vuescan it's simple: set up a basic adjustment pattern, then use Vuescan's ability to process PEF files. Fast and pretty simple. It's not as interactive to set up, however. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Mishka wrote: i have both, vuescan and cs2. could you give me the specifics of how you do it? I found that processing raw in cs2 requires tweaking brightness and shadows for (almost) every frame. best, mishka On 7/16/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmm. I never presumed that moving to digital would be faster to get my prints done, although it does turn out that way a good bit of the time. I take forever to select and work my photographs ... ;-) Compared to scanning film and post processing, it's much faster. For a good solution to batch processing RAW, you should probably look at Capture One. I use Photoshop CS2 + Camera Raw 3.1 for this, it works well once you learn how to do it, but I also use Vuescan which does very good batch processing as a background process. Godfrey
RE: OT: Darkroom temperature control.
I guess I'll take 74 and like it. ;-) Geez, they must develop Tri-X in like 22 and a half seconds! Don > -Original Message- > From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:06 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT: Darkroom temperature control. > > > Unfortunately the tap water here runs 70-74 degrees at its > coldest in summer. > > -- > > I have seen (but never patronized) photo-processing places in Mali, > where I have experienced temperatures of 140 F (60 C). These places do > not have any sort of cooling. I have always wondered how they process > film. I suspect that they just do it at whatever temperature the water > and chemicals happen to be at. > > Joe >
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
Perhaps that's one reason why the KM D7 feels so enormous in the hand. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Herb Chong wrote: this article quotes the KM General Manager of Development when he says that the sensor moves more than 1cm if necessary http:// www.dpreview.com/news/0408/04080402dynax7interview.asp.
Re: Auto Parts: An afternoon at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
Nice stuff, Mark. I keep wishing I could find some car shows nearby me. Oh well, there is Rods in the Park at GFM next month, but I do prefer sports cars. Strangely the past couple of summers there were a lot of interesting old cars around Boone, but this year seems different although I have seen a few passing through town. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Mark Roberts wrote: Spent the afternoon at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix today. The races are tomorrow but there were qualifying heats today and, best of all, a huge British car show in the park. I took a lot of shots at the show. I just slapped together a quick web gallery. A couple of them have had levels adjusted but that's all. Mostly they're straight from the RAW converter (RawShooter Pro in batch mode). http://www.robertstech.com/temp/parts.htm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 7/15/2005
PESO-- Dumb camera, or mooning around.
I looked out the door and saw the moon in the dusk. Say that would make a nice photo with the Oly, I think. So grab the digicam and with the flash turned off in the menu take this shot. http://www.graywolfphoto.com/_temp%20images/c-5050-test-3-006A.jpg You can tell by the license plate of the car on the left the flash fired anyway, humm? It is way too light, so I adjusted the mid-tones in levels which gives this. http://www.graywolfphoto.com/_temp%20images/c-5050-test-3-006.jpg Not too bad except for that pesky license plate. If I cropped just above the car, cloned out the porch lights and the power line crap it would not be too bad a snapshot, I think. By the way the moon was in the upper right hand corner of the optical viewfinder, going to take awhile before I start knowing just how much to adjust for paralax with this camera. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 7/15/2005
RE: PESO:Big wheel
Hi Dave thanks for the comments. I cropped about 5 mm on the left and right side in this picture but still it is a very fine lens and I get used to hold it straight. more soon... greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:42 AM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: Re: PESO:Big wheel >> >> >> > I just had do try my >>newest enablement, a used Tamron SP 17mm, with the >>> Pentax SFXn when I saw this big wheel and the teenagers in the >>foreground. I >>> made some other shoots too and will use this lens next week in >>the mountains >>> on Mt. Rigi >>> or Stanserhorn. >>> >>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3541913 (90KB) >>> >>> >>> greetings >>> Markus >>> >>> >> >> Hi Markus. >> >>Nice one. Very sharp, nice colours and edge distortion is minimil. >> >>Good eye here. >> >>DAVE >> >>
RE: Another istD road trip and version question
Hi Bob and don't forget to **first** install the drivers and second after that plug in the camera. The other way around could leave you with a unrecognized device in Windows and it will not work. greetings Markus > >>And I just used the site to download the S4 drivers to my laptop. > >>
Re: Lens roadmap (WAS: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS)
Pål Jensen wrote: another between 70 and 80. Between 60 and 70 in fact. Cheers, David
RE: PESO:Bellevue digital postcard
Hi Bob If possible I will only use photos with people on them on shots of the mountains to show the dimensions and on places with "fun action". People must be only smaller inessential matters because of the copyright too. I'm waiting for the response of bestofswitzerlandtours, we will have a meeting and discuss matters. I just prepare myself with little Photoshop exercises and have, with Derby Chang's help, found some good frame actions and other free stuff on Adobe's site. Jim Hemenway sent me a perspective corrected and more color saturated version which looks better than my first attempt. I'm still quite reserved about such manipulations for no logical reason. As a film user I maybe just have to get used to the endless possibilities of Photoshop and alike and of course have to learn a lot. thanks for the comment. greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:11 AM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: Re: PESO:Bellevue digital postcard >> >> >>Markus, >>I like the idea and pix. Should you put any people in the photos? >>Regards, Bob S. >> >>On 7/16/05, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi Pentaxians >>> >>> Please have a look at my work in progress for digital >>advertising postcards >>> and let me know what you think. >>> The pictures have to be quite colorful and a bit "Kitsch" or >>"Cliché", a lot >>> of Tourists love and expect this kind of photography from Switzerland. >>> >>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3545905 (120KB) >>> >>> Next will be a series of mountain shots where the "snow" font is more >>> appropriate. >>> This PESO was again made with the Tamron 17mm on the Pentax >>SFXn with Agfa >>> 200 ISO film. >>> >>> greetings >>> Markus >>> >>> >>
Re: Lens roadmap (WAS: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS)
Pål: > Interesting. Two more Limited pancake lenses; one between 20 and 30mm and another between 70 and 80. A fisheye zoom from 10mm. Maybe the D FA 50-200 is a F:2.8 lens? John Francis: Constant-aperture F4, I believe. -- Well, of course we've speculated about that. Do you know something definite, John? Joe
Auto Parts: An afternoon at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
Spent the afternoon at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix today. The races are tomorrow but there were qualifying heats today and, best of all, a huge British car show in the park. I took a lot of shots at the show. I just slapped together a quick web gallery. A couple of them have had levels adjusted but that's all. Mostly they're straight from the RAW converter (RawShooter Pro in batch mode). http://www.robertstech.com/temp/parts.htm -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: Darkroom temperature control.
Unfortunately the tap water here runs 70-74 degrees at its coldest in summer. -- I have seen (but never patronized) photo-processing places in Mali, where I have experienced temperatures of 140 F (60 C). These places do not have any sort of cooling. I have always wondered how they process film. I suspect that they just do it at whatever temperature the water and chemicals happen to be at. Joe
Re: PESOs: More Messenger Championships Pix
Thanks Frank for showing photos from what looks lik a great trip. Your idea of nudity is different from mine.LOL Dave > I've simply stuck them in the same folder with the two of Tofu that I > showed previously. > > NOTE: Do not open if you find any of the following offensive: > displays of public nudity, obscene gestures, alcohol consumption in > public. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. > > If, on the other hand those things are fine with you, enjoy. It was a > fun weekend : > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=509434 > > I haven't posted too many racing pix, since I had one body with one > lens (40mm), so there's a certain sameness to most of them - without a > telephoto, one's limited. I have some pix from the velodrome (the day > after these were taken), so I may post them a bit later. Also getting > back about 5 rolls of b&w negs (no prints yet) tomorrow, so you may > also see the best of those (such as they may be...). > > You may comment on these, but I really don't expect you to. These are > mostly a documentary of the final race day, but not great stuff, to be > sure. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >
Re: Another istD road trip and version question
> Sorry Dave for the tortured sentence. > The Ds is fine - excellent in fact, but I've been advised that we'll > be walking a lot to see stores. And, the temperatures will be 95 F > degrees with 90% humidity. > Regards, Bob S. No problem Bob. You should see how i torture here at home.LOL Have a great trip. Dave > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks all, I've spotted it now. > > > And I just used the site to download the S4 drivers to my laptop. > > > My daughter's S4 is headed with me tomorrow on business. > > > I'd take the *ist Ds if I wasn't working and it wasn't so HOT in China. > > > > Hopefully you mean its paying its way, not broken.:-) > > > > Have a good trip > > > > Dave > > > > > > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> So how would I download > > > > Version 1.10 and get > > it > > into my camera? > > > > > Manual is no help here... > > > > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > > > > > Hi Bob. > > > > > > > > Go to Pentax US( i did mine through Pentax Canada site) and there > > > > should be a link to > > > > customer > > > > support. The upgrades are there. > > > > > > > > Download the upgrade,its a self extracting exe file and follow the > > > > instructions on the > > > > readme file. > > > > You;;ll need a CF card and full batteries. Its about 645 K file. > > > > > > > > I have the 1.12 version on the computer. I can email if you have snags. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Yep that was it. > > > > > > Thanks Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > Its version 1.00. I thinmk i stil have my download for version 1.10 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > >> To check the firmware hold down > > > > > > the Menu button > > when > > > > you switch the power on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dropped of my istD and Sigma 300 f4 for Brother Aaron to > > > > > > > > use at this > > weekend > > > > > > Bluejay > > > > > > > > AL > > > > > > > > baseball game against Tampa Bay. He has press passes for the > > > > > > > > weekend and > > submits > > > > > > > > photos > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > the link > > > > > > > > below as a "Photo a Day" feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.battersbox.ca/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He found an older Sigma 1.4 tele which he plans to try out if > > > > > > > > the dome is > > open. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its not the newer APO EX1.4 but we'll see. I might just inherit > > > > > > > > this for > > payment > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > equipment loans.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, how can i check the firmware version number. I'm sure > > > > > > > > there is a way but > > > > looking > > > > > > > > through the > > > > > > > > manual i didi not see anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure my sister's and daughter's istD's are the newer > > > > > > > > version as the > > > > 'enable > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > a' is in > > > > > > > > the menu. Any help here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Update. Daughter LIKES camera, boyfriend LOVES camera.LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Philly PDML Report and Gallery
> Amita and Nate, Tom and Susan, and Scott joined me in > Philadelphia last weekend. Things got off to a bumpy > start, with Tom's camera dying on the first frame (see > his lament on his short people-photographer career), > and the brewpub that had cheerfully taken my > reservation two days before being closed for an event. Thanks for the story and link Rick. I do like to see the other "chapters" on their photo treks.:-)Some nice shots. I like the pool shot with the fish eye. How appropreate eh.lol Just think if Tom had of tossed an istD in his pocket he could have been non Zen to. > The pix are here: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=510956. > > Cheers, > > Rick > > P.S. If anyone cares, the pix were taken with my PZ-1p > on Elite Chrome 100, mostly with either a 24-90 or an > 80-320, and scanned with little if any manipulation. I care. Thanks for the info. Dave Brooks > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
Re: Another car show
Thnaks for sharing Jim. They look fine.Cindy or not. Dave > Nothing "artsy" or particularly well composed, just a few shots taken at > a "mini" car show at the Larz Anderson Museum in Brookline, MA last > Saturday. > > The lighting was alternately light and dark due to the passing of > tropical depression "Cindy", the remnants of which can be seen in the > last photo. > > http://www.hemenway.com/MOT/ > > Pentax isDS, 14mm used for most of them. > > Ji >
Paw:GFM Pic # 9. IR Shot #1
http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=view¤t=GFM_ROAD.jpg Well i'v finished cleaning the ring dust of the 70-200VR F2.8 and getting ready for Sundays show, so i thought i'd relax with some scanning. This is a shot taken Saturday after dropping Frank off at the parking lot to meet Mark on his epic journey into the bowels of GFM. Well actually not quite, but you get the idea.:-)(Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, sorry i panic'd) Any way, i took a roll up by the swing bridge and this is a favorite of mine. Took some time to get these shots as the sun was only partial and was still misty. Tourists thought i was nuts waiting and waiting. Anyway i hope you enjoy this one and i have scanned another for the next Paw. Comments are welcome PZ-1 with 28-105 PZ and Tiffen #25 red filter. Kodak HIE film at 125, F11 ish(did a lot of bracketing in these shots) Dave
Re: Another istD road trip and version question
Sorry Dave for the tortured sentence. The Ds is fine - excellent in fact, but I've been advised that we'll be walking a lot to see stores. And, the temperatures will be 95 F degrees with 90% humidity. Regards, Bob S. On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks all, I've spotted it now. > > And I just used the site to download the S4 drivers to my laptop. > > My daughter's S4 is headed with me tomorrow on business. > > I'd take the *ist Ds if I wasn't working and it wasn't so HOT in China. > > Hopefully you mean its paying its way, not broken.:-) > > Have a good trip > > Dave > > > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> So how would I download Version > > > 1.10 and get > it > into my camera? > > > > Manual is no help here... > > > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > > > Hi Bob. > > > > > > Go to Pentax US( i did mine through Pentax Canada site) and there should > > > be a link to > > > customer > > > support. The upgrades are there. > > > > > > Download the upgrade,its a self extracting exe file and follow the > > > instructions on the > > > readme file. > > > You;;ll need a CF card and full batteries. Its about 645 K file. > > > > > > I have the 1.12 version on the computer. I can email if you have snags. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yep that was it. > > > > > Thanks Dave > > > > > > > > > > Its version 1.00. I thinmk i stil have my download for version 1.10 > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > >> To check the firmware hold down the > > > > > Menu button > when > > > you switch the power on. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Dropped of my istD and Sigma 300 f4 for Brother Aaron to > > > > > > > use at this > weekend > > > > > Bluejay > > > > > > > AL > > > > > > > baseball game against Tampa Bay. He has press passes for the > > > > > > > weekend and > submits > > > > > > photos > > > > > to > > > > > > > the link > > > > > > > below as a "Photo a Day" feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.battersbox.ca/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He found an older Sigma 1.4 tele which he plans to try out if the > > > > > > > dome is > open. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its not the newer APO EX1.4 but we'll see. I might just inherit > > > > > > > this for > payment > > > > for > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > equipment loans.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, how can i check the firmware version number. I'm sure there > > > > > > > is a way but > > > looking > > > > > > > through the > > > > > > > manual i didi not see anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure my sister's and daughter's istD's are the newer > > > > > > > version as the > > > 'enable > > > > > off > > > > > > > a' is in > > > > > > > the menu. Any help here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > Update. Daughter LIKES camera, boyfriend LOVES camera.LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Proof that I suck.
- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: RE: Proof that I suck. I still see a black thing in front of the lens. But if you say so... Thereby (or whatever the correct word is), this proves that I suck ;-) http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/77LTD/pages/IMGP8242.html William Robb
RE: Proof that I suck.
I still see a black thing in front of the lens. But if you say so... Thereby (or whatever the correct word is), this proves that I suck ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. juli 2005 01:08 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Proof that I suck. - Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: Proof that I suck. >A silver Limited with a black filter? Get a grip man! > Look agian, harmless one. Thats a silver Limited with the matching silver filter. William Robb
Re: PESO:Big wheel
> I just had do try my newest enablement, a used Tamron SP 17mm, with the > Pentax SFXn when I saw this big wheel and the teenagers in the foreground. I > made some other shoots too and will use this lens next week in the mountains > on Mt. Rigi > or Stanserhorn. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3541913 (90KB) > > > greetings > Markus > > Hi Markus. Nice one. Very sharp, nice colours and edge distortion is minimil. Good eye here. DAVE
Re: Me and PAWs
We're rooting for Lance at my house. It looks like he has really grown up some in the last few years. His interviews project a thoughtful, humble image praising his competition. I could really like this guy... And the number of people wearing the Livestrong bracelets is huge here. I think he's doing a lot for cancer suffers. Regards, Bob S. On 7/16/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/16/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Go Lance.. > > Damn straight! > > Today was such a typical day at the office for him. His nearest rival > attacks. Lance ends up in a chase group without any teamates (it was > either go, or wait for his team to organize and let every other rival > for GC go without him). Lance's group ends up catching Rasmussen's > group and then passing it. By the end of the stage, everyone except > Basso has been dropped. Lance gains more time. > > Take to the podium for yet another yellow jersey. Shower, eat, > massage, then rest for tomorrow. > > Ho hum. > > The guy's a machine! And, he may be the only guy in the Tour who's not doped. > > Plus, he likes bock beer. > > I love this guy. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >
Re: PESO - John Wayne
Looks like someone forgot to water the tree.LOL Another great shot Bruce. I'v just shown the SO most of your series. I think we need to do some traveling, and she agrees.:-) Dave > Our guide told us that this basic scene was used in many of the old > westerns for the cowboy/outlaw riding off into the desert. They would > put the guy on a horse and have him head towards the distant rock > formations. I'm guessing John Wayne must have done this more than > once. > > Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, handheld > ISO 400, 1/180 sec @ f/13 > Converted from Raw using Capture One LE > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0382.htm > > Comments welcome > > -- > Bruce >
Re: Lens roadmap (WAS: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS)
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 11:36:51PM +0200, P?l Jensen wrote: > Joseph wrote: > > > P?l, here's the url to the lens development roadmap: > > > > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf > > > Interesting. Two more Limited pancake lenses; one between 20 and 30mm and > another between 70 and 80. A fisheye zoom from 10mm. Maybe the D FA 50-200 is > a F:2.8 lens? Constant-aperture F4, I believe.
Re: Another istD road trip and version question
> Thanks all, I've spotted it now. > And I just used the site to download the S4 drivers to my laptop. > My daughter's S4 is headed with me tomorrow on business. > I'd take the *ist Ds if I wasn't working and it wasn't so HOT in China. Hopefully you mean its paying its way, not broken.:-) Have a good trip Dave > Regards, Bob S. > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So how would I download Version > > 1.10 and get it into my camera? > > > Manual is no help here... > > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > Hi Bob. > > > > Go to Pentax US( i did mine through Pentax Canada site) and there should be > > a link to > > customer > > support. The upgrades are there. > > > > Download the upgrade,its a self extracting exe file and follow the > > instructions on the > > readme file. > > You;;ll need a CF card and full batteries. Its about 645 K file. > > > > I have the 1.12 version on the computer. I can email if you have snags. > > > > Dave > > > > Dave > > > > > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yep that was it. > > > > Thanks Dave > > > > > > > > Its version 1.00. I thinmk i stil have my download for version 1.10 > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > >> To check the firmware hold down the > > > > Menu button when > > you switch the power on. > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dropped of my istD and Sigma 300 f4 for Brother Aaron to use > > > > > > at this weekend > > > > Bluejay > > > > > > AL > > > > > > baseball game against Tampa Bay. He has press passes for the > > > > > > weekend and submits > > > > photos > > > > to > > > > > > the link > > > > > > below as a "Photo a Day" feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.battersbox.ca/ > > > > > > > > > > > > He found an older Sigma 1.4 tele which he plans to try out if the > > > > > > dome is open. > > > > > > > > > > > > Its not the newer APO EX1.4 but we'll see. I might just inherit > > > > > > this for payment > > for > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > equipment loans.:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, how can i check the firmware version number. I'm sure there > > > > > > is a way but > > looking > > > > > > through the > > > > > > manual i didi not see anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure my sister's and daughter's istD's are the newer > > > > > > version as the > > 'enable > > > > off > > > > > > a' is in > > > > > > the menu. Any help here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > Update. Daughter LIKES camera, boyfriend LOVES camera.LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Another istD road trip and version question
Thanks all, I've spotted it now. And I just used the site to download the S4 drivers to my laptop. My daughter's S4 is headed with me tomorrow on business. I'd take the *ist Ds if I wasn't working and it wasn't so HOT in China. Regards, Bob S. On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So how would I download Version 1.10 > and get it into my camera? > > Manual is no help here... > > Regards, Bob S. > > Hi Bob. > > Go to Pentax US( i did mine through Pentax Canada site) and there should be a > link to > customer > support. The upgrades are there. > > Download the upgrade,its a self extracting exe file and follow the > instructions on the > readme file. > You;;ll need a CF card and full batteries. Its about 645 K file. > > I have the 1.12 version on the computer. I can email if you have snags. > > Dave > > Dave > > > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yep that was it. > > > Thanks Dave > > > > > > Its version 1.00. I thinmk i stil have my download for version 1.10 > > > > > > Dave > > > > > >> To check the firmware hold down the Menu > > > button when > you switch the power on. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Dropped of my istD and Sigma 300 f4 for Brother Aaron to use at > > > > > this weekend > > > Bluejay > > > > > AL > > > > > baseball game against Tampa Bay. He has press passes for the weekend > > > > > and submits > > > photos > > > to > > > > > the link > > > > > below as a "Photo a Day" feature. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.battersbox.ca/ > > > > > > > > > > He found an older Sigma 1.4 tele which he plans to try out if the > > > > > dome is open. > > > > > > > > > > Its not the newer APO EX1.4 but we'll see. I might just inherit this > > > > > for payment > for > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > equipment loans.:-) > > > > > > > > > > Also, how can i check the firmware version number. I'm sure there is > > > > > a way but > looking > > > > > through the > > > > > manual i didi not see anything. > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure my sister's and daughter's istD's are the newer > > > > > version as the > 'enable > > > off > > > > > a' is in > > > > > the menu. Any help here. > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > Update. Daughter LIKES camera, boyfriend LOVES camera.LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera Yes, I expected Shel to have a wagon load of anthricite coal delivered from time to time. Must be really hard to get in California... They import it from Utah as a value added product. They extract the smoke in a rather old fashioned manufacturing process, and have found a way to transport the stuff via copper wire. You know when there is a problem with your remanufactured coal delivery system because the smoke starts to leak out of whatever you are using it with at the time. WW
RE: PESO: City Hall where I work
Markus Rådhus means City Hall. So you are quite right, it is rathouse. The house where the rats work ;-) Just for the record, it is Towns Hall. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9. juli 2005 14:20 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO: City Hall where I work Hi Jens creating a screensaver looks like an interesting job. Will you create a slideshow or just a single picture? Would pictures in landscape format not suit a computer screen better? I did understand the word Rådhus = Rathaus ;-) greetings Markus >>-Original Message- >>From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:38 PM >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >>Subject: PESO: City Hall where I work >> >> >>I'm shooting pics for a corporate screensaver. Perhaps this one will make >>the grade: >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/24648404/ >> >>It's the local Town Hall Square. The yellow building is the City >>Hall (Køge >>Rådhus), the place where I work. >>Regards >> >>Jens Bladt >>Arkitekt MAA >>http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt >> >>
Re: Proof that I suck.
- Original Message - From: "Tim Øsleby" Subject: RE: Proof that I suck. A silver Limited with a black filter? Get a grip man! Look agian, harmless one. Thats a silver Limited with the matching silver filter. William Robb
Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS On 16/7/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: It wouldn't matter what a 600mm lens weighed, it's not a hand holdable focal length. Er Unless you have a Stedicam. William Robb
Re: Lens roadmap (WAS: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS)
> > Interesting. Two more Limited pancake lenses; one between 20 and 30mm and > another between 70 and 80. A fisheye zoom from 10mm. Maybe the D FA 50-200 is > a F:2.8 lens? > If the table is to be taken litterally the fisheye zoom is an 8-22mm and the telephoto zoom a 50-220mm. Pål
RE: PAW - "Clouds at Lake Tekapo"
The picture is interesting. I could spend some time looking at it. In fact I did. But I do a comment on your site design. Why don't you have just one title line? "David Mann - Picture A Week" Instead of: "David Mann Picture A Week" With the size you are using now, this would let me look at the whole picture without scrolling or using the F11 function. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9. juli 2005 12:11 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PAW - "Clouds at Lake Tekapo" More clouds this week. I'm not very happy with the scan but it's too late to redo it. After the feedback I had about my pages a couple of weeks ago I've been playing around with some concepts for a new layout, so I've done a second version in addition to the regular one. I was made redundant last week so I might get a bit of time to work on my web pages. Current code: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?print_id=97&t=PAW One of my concept designs with the text pasted in by hand: http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/temp/concepts/2b-151.html Feedback is appreciated, as always. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera
Yes, I expected Shel to have a wagon load of anthricite coal delivered from time to time. Must be really hard to get in California... Regards, Bob S. On 7/16/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kerosene, converted to cooking oil, Shel you modernist, I'd have thought > you'd be using coal. > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >It's an old, kerosene powered TV converted to run on used cooking oil. > > > >Shel > > > > > > > > > >>[Original Message] > >>From: Don Sanderson > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>Sorry, didn't notice the "non" in there! > >>I take back all my comments. > >>But, then again, television? > >>Pretty high tech stuff inside there. ;-) > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, >Run in circles, (scream and shout). > >
Re: PESO:Bellevue digital postcard
Markus, I like the idea and pix. Should you put any people in the photos? Regards, Bob S. On 7/16/05, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Pentaxians > > Please have a look at my work in progress for digital advertising postcards > and let me know what you think. > The pictures have to be quite colorful and a bit "Kitsch" or "Cliché", a lot > of Tourists love and expect this kind of photography from Switzerland. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3545905 (120KB) > > Next will be a series of mountain shots where the "snow" font is more > appropriate. > This PESO was again made with the Tamron 17mm on the Pentax SFXn with Agfa > 200 ISO film. > > greetings > Markus > >
Re: PAW: Is Rehearsal Almost Over?
On 7/16/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cottaging means something entirely different over here, Frank. Yes, Mike? Praytell, what does it mean on the other side of the pond? thanks, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Is Rehearsal Almost Over?
On 7/16/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I right in thinking it has to do with cheese? "We don't have much call for cottage cheese in this area, sir..." -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: GESO: A story about Barber Shop and what happens inside
> I know i don't comment much.. but i REALLY watch all the photos in the list :) > Here is a little story i've try to tell about 1 small barber shop that > my wife likes... > http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery/BarberShop > > > Comments or critique are welcome !!! > > PS: please try to look at it as a story and not as "each photo by it's own" > > Michael > Michael. Not sure if this really tells a story to me, but, I love the last photo. Very nice "street portrait" if i may use that term. Dave Brooks
Re: Me and PAWs
On 7/16/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Go Lance.. Damn straight! Today was such a typical day at the office for him. His nearest rival attacks. Lance ends up in a chase group without any teamates (it was either go, or wait for his team to organize and let every other rival for GC go without him). Lance's group ends up catching Rasmussen's group and then passing it. By the end of the stage, everyone except Basso has been dropped. Lance gains more time. Take to the podium for yet another yellow jersey. Shower, eat, massage, then rest for tomorrow. Ho hum. The guy's a machine! And, he may be the only guy in the Tour who's not doped. Plus, he likes bock beer. I love this guy. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!
. I picked up the slides today and they certainly look fine. But > at $17.00+ for processing! Granted, they were pushed one stop, for which > some sort of extra fee is understandable, but that kind of pricing is > still going to have me thinking twice before shooting slides. Phewww. Thats dear. The local "Pro" lab near work still does E6, same day if submitted before 3:00pm. My last roll was processed, mounted for $12.00 Can.The $17.00 US is pretty high eh. Dave > > I suppose I could look into mail order outfits, but that seems a bit > much for one roll. Never mind the wait. > > As film use declines I can see this price trend increasing, though... > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
Re: PESO- Mushrooms
On 16/7/05, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: >> Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld >> ISO 200, 1/125 sec @ f/8 >> Converted from Raw using Capture One LE >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0255.htm What's that rubbish at bottom middle?!?!?! ;0) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PAW: Is Rehearsal Almost Over?
On 16/7/05, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >Cottaging means something entirely different over here, Frank. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Another istD road trip and version question
> So how would I download Version 1.10 and get it into my camera? > Manual is no help here... > Regards, Bob S. Hi Bob. Go to Pentax US( i did mine through Pentax Canada site) and there should be a link to customer support. The upgrades are there. Download the upgrade,its a self extracting exe file and follow the instructions on the readme file. You;;ll need a CF card and full batteries. Its about 645 K file. I have the 1.12 version on the computer. I can email if you have snags. Dave Dave > > On 7/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep that was it. > > Thanks Dave > > > > Its version 1.00. I thinmk i stil have my download for version 1.10 > > > > Dave > > > >> To check the firmware hold down the Menu > > button when you switch the power on. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Dropped of my istD and Sigma 300 f4 for Brother Aaron to use at > > > > this weekend > > Bluejay > > > > AL > > > > baseball game against Tampa Bay. He has press passes for the weekend > > > > and submits > > photos > > to > > > > the link > > > > below as a "Photo a Day" feature. > > > > > > > > http://www.battersbox.ca/ > > > > > > > > He found an older Sigma 1.4 tele which he plans to try out if the dome > > > > is open. > > > > > > > > Its not the newer APO EX1.4 but we'll see. I might just inherit this > > > > for payment for > > all > > > > > > the > > > > equipment loans.:-) > > > > > > > > Also, how can i check the firmware version number. I'm sure there is a > > > > way but looking > > > > through the > > > > manual i didi not see anything. > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure my sister's and daughter's istD's are the newer version > > > > as the 'enable > > off > > > > a' is in > > > > the menu. Any help here. > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > Update. Daughter LIKES camera, boyfriend LOVES camera.LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Darkroom temperature control.
I just fill a plastic carboy (beer brewing container) with water that is 20c. I use a 3 gallon container - it's not hard to nail the temp right where you want it. In the summer I do have to keep a few bottles of chilled water in the fridge to bring the tap water down a bit. I mix the developer with the water from the carboy, and also use it for the rinses between processing steps. Using HC 110 or Rodinal you don't have to worry about the temp of the concentrate, since at 1:100 or 1:50 you will not be altering the water temp much. I develop in my basement which says between 65 in the winter and 72 or so in the summer - so the temp of the fixer etc is not a concern. In the summer I just let the final rinse flow from the tap - it may be 4 or 5 degrees warmer than the temps of the other solutions, but it does not do any harm. In the winter I set the tap water to 20c and then let it drop in temp slowly, as the flow from the hot water heater cools down - the problem I have maintaining a steady temp in running water is that I need just a little hot water, and the flow is not enough to keep the pipe hot. So it starts at one temp and slowly drops - that's only a problem in the winter. It may drop all the way down to the low 60's, but I have never had a problem with reticulation. I do wonder if adjusting time to compensate for temperature is truly equivalent - personally I like to control the temp and develop at a uniform time. HTH - MCC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:59 PM Subject: OT: Darkroom temperature control. I've just purchased the components to design and build some precision temperature controls for darkroom chemistry. I have the heating part down but am at a bit of a loss as to what to use for cooling the different solutions. Other than keeping the entire darkroom at 68 degrees or below does anyone have any ideas as to how to keep developer, etc. at the correct temp? Unfortunately the tap water here runs 70-74 degrees at its coldest in summer. I'd actually like to be able to run at 65 degrees to keep developement times long and controllable. My only thought is a large container of water in the fridge that could be circulated around the bottles and tank. Any ideas welcome. Don
Re: Cotty, got any film at your house?
On 16/7/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >After scanning my slides from the UK trip yesterday, I realized that >this was roll #2. I had completely forgotten that I shot two rolls of E6 >over there... and now I can't find the first one anywhere. Cotty, if you >find a roll of slide film around your house I'd expect it's much more >likely to be mine than yours ;-) > >Have a look, will you? I'll forward this onto the cleaning dept. She'll contact you in due course ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS
On 16/7/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >It wouldn't matter what a 600mm lens weighed, it's not a hand holdable focal >length. Er Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: The instigation of enablement
This list may cost me a bob or two that I can't afford. In future I may pick up a * lens or two if I don't unsubscribe. But my main reason for hating you, is that I had a MZ-S and a FA*80-200 on hand for 600£. A guy bought it in front of me, simply because I needed to ask you guys for advice before doing the transaction. You may say that I only have myself to blame. But I still hate you all!!! Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Scott Loveless [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9. juli 2005 07:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: The instigation of enablement Since joining the list in February, I've experienced enablement in the worst way. I have acquired no less than one body, three primes, one zoom, a camera bag, everything necessary to process black and white film, a film scanner, at least one photo magazine subscription, a handful of random assorted other goodies, and one digicam. I hold Bill Robb ( and most of the rest of you ) personally responsible. But not Frank. Based on my limited experience, he's the only one immune to this nonsense. To continue a recent survey trend, how has the list inspired ( coerced ) you to become enabled? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- "You have to hold the button down" -Arnold Newman
Re: Lens roadmap (WAS: [OT] KM shows cheap DSLR with AS)
Joseph wrote: > Pål, here's the url to the lens development roadmap: > > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf Interesting. Two more Limited pancake lenses; one between 20 and 30mm and another between 70 and 80. A fisheye zoom from 10mm. Maybe the D FA 50-200 is a F:2.8 lens? Pål
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
Joseph wrote: > I assume that the forthcoming high-performance telezoom will be better > out to the edges. Perhaps Pentax's better lenses will be suitable for > image stabilization, but less so the lower-quality lenses. "Edge definitions" is one of the parametres the D FA lenses are optimized for... Pål
RE: Proof that I suck.
A silver Limited with a black filter? Get a grip man! Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: David Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9. juli 2005 17:01 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Proof that I suck. The black 77 does look good on the LX http://tinyurl.com/atr64 (a silver 31 doesn't look to bad either) Dave :-) On 7/9/05, Jon M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> You do indeed suck, mister Robb. You wouldn't suck if> you sent one of those to me. Either one would be> beautiful on my LX.> > :)> > > > > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items.> http://auctions.yahoo.com/> >
Re: Wow, maybe film *is* dead!
i have both, vuescan and cs2. could you give me the specifics of how you do it? I found that processing raw in cs2 requires tweaking brightness and shadows for (almost) every frame. best, mishka On 7/16/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmm. I never presumed that moving to digital would be faster to get > my prints done, although it does turn out that way a good bit of the > time. I take forever to select and work my photographs ... ;-) > > Compared to scanning film and post processing, it's much faster. > > For a good solution to batch processing RAW, you should probably look > at Capture One. I use Photoshop CS2 + Camera Raw 3.1 for this, it > works well once you learn how to do it, but I also use Vuescan which > does very good batch processing as a background process. > > Godfrey > >
Re: More HP-Kodak rumours
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Roberts) wrote: > >From today's Chicago Tribune: "Eastman Kodak increased 70 cents, to > >$28.35, on speculation among traders that the company might be > >purchased by Hewlett-Packard. Spokesmen for both companies declined > >to comment. Hewlett-Packard advanced 31 cents, to $24.42." Well, it would continue HP's history of non-synergic takeovers rather nicely. I really hope it's not true; HP is more of an intermittent avalanche than a value-building company these days. -- PDML means I get more e-mail than spam!
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
i would think so, but i haven't looked hard at the design docs. as i said in another msg, the press release says that the sensor moves almost 1cm in each axis. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: Re: In-Body Image Stabilization That's interesting. I imagined that for the in-camera stabilisation to work properly, the lenses would have to have a larger-than-sensor image circle. Maybe that's a wrong assumption?
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
this article quotes the KM General Manager of Development when he says that the sensor moves more than 1cm if necessary http://www.dpreview.com/news/0408/04080402dynax7interview.asp. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: Re: In-Body Image Stabilization That's interesting. I imagined that for the in-camera stabilisation to work properly, the lenses would have to have a larger-than-sensor image circle. Maybe that's a wrong assumption?
Re: More HP-Kodak rumours
Graywolf wrote: It is estimated that by 2010 HP will own every company in the world except Microsoft. GRIN! And then Microsoft will buy HP in 2011?
Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
A number of upscale eateries, including one somewhat toney place in NY, the name of which I've forgotten, serve upscale versions of White Castle Burgers, or "sliders" as their commonly called. The combination of the sauted onions, thin burger, and pickle slice can be quite goood when prepared just so. But genuine White Castles are best by the sackful after a night of serious drinking. Paul > White Castle burgers were often called "belly bombs" . But what can > you expect for an 8-cent burger (yes, that's what they cost at one time!) > > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > From: John Francis > > > Anyone who considers McDonalds to be the nadir of bad hamburgers > > has never sampled the culinary delights of a Wimpy bar (or White > > Castle, come to that). > >
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
Thanks Herb, That's interesting. I imagined that for the in-camera stabilisation to work properly, the lenses would have to have a larger-than-sensor image circle. Maybe that's a wrong assumption? Jostein - Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: Re: In-Body Image Stabilization three yesterday. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: In-Body Image Stabilization Has KonicaMinolta released any "digital-only" lenses, or is their lineup strictly 35mm still?
RE: OT: Roman burger recipe ( Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
I shall have a look through that tomorrow - it looks fascinating. The British Museum publishes a series of modernised ancient recipe books. It's very interesting to try them out. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You might like this: > Food in England by Dorothy Hartley > Little, Brown & Company 1954 (rep 1999) > 0-316-85205-8 > > Not only an interesting recipe book but a jolly good read, too.
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
three yesterday. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: In-Body Image Stabilization Has KonicaMinolta released any "digital-only" lenses, or is their lineup strictly 35mm still?
Re: OT: Roman burger recipe ( Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
Bob W wrote: Here's the recipe from Apicius: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Pantheon/9013/recipies.html#3 I have a book of ancient Roman recipes, adapted for the modern kitchen. There are some very interesting dishes. You can also use Thai fish sauce instead of liquamen. In fact, Thai fish sauce is more or less identical to Roman liquamen. You might like this: Food in England by Dorothy Hartley Little, Brown & Company 1954 (rep 1999) 0-316-85205-8 Not only an interesting recipe book but a jolly good read, too. What you had in England before McDonalds was probably a Wimpy - not very good. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2005 00:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update Well something like them has been, but what I had in England wasn't even close, and I'm not a big fan of McDonnalds.
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
Um... Just a very basic question... Has KonicaMinolta released any "digital-only" lenses, or is their lineup strictly 35mm still? Jostein - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:24 PM Subject: In-Body Image Stabilization I remain sceptical about the image quality one can get using the edge of many lenses. Recall the review I posted a few days ago of the DA 50-200. Overall it is pretty good for the price, and I would recommend it for most uses. It is, however, consistently just a bit weak at the edges. What kind of image quality would one get shifting the sensor a few mm with such a lens? I assume that the forthcoming high-performance telezoom will be better out to the edges. Perhaps Pentax's better lenses will be suitable for image stabilization, but less so the lower-quality lenses. Joe
Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera
- Original Message - From: "keithw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] All very well considered and well said, Jostein! Thanks for speaking your thoughts and sharing them. Probably a little for everyone, there! keith Thanks, Keith. Myself included, even if I managed to stay out of this particular thread for a long time. Cheers, Jostein
Re: PESO - Arch
Good feedback from you and others. I appreciate it. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, July 16, 2005, 12:22:58 PM, you wrote: KW> Bruce, IMHO this is not as strong as your other recent posts. Great elements KW> are there but they are in competition with each other, competing for my KW> attention. KW> Isolate and simplify. KW> Kenneth Waller KW> - Original Message - KW> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> KW> To: KW> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:22 AM KW> Subject: PESO - Arch >> There is a big portion of Monument Valley that you cannot go into >> without a guide and good 4 wheel drive for the sand. For this trip, I >> was able to arrange a private tour for our group in an air-conditioned >> 4-wheel drive van. We were able to start the tour in the early >> afternoon and end at sundown. It made it really nice because we could >> stop anytime we wanted for as long as we wanted to take pictures and >> got to see the part that is missed by many. It turns out that there >> are a bunch of arches in Monument Valley. >> >> Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, polarizer >> ISO 400, 1/350 sec @ f/9.5 >> Converted from Raw using Capture One LE >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0354.htm >> >> Comments welcome >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bruce >>
PESO:Bellevue digital postcard
Hi Pentaxians Please have a look at my work in progress for digital advertising postcards and let me know what you think. The pictures have to be quite colorful and a bit "Kitsch" or "Cliché", a lot of Tourists love and expect this kind of photography from Switzerland. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3545905 (120KB) Next will be a series of mountain shots where the "snow" font is more appropriate. This PESO was again made with the Tamron 17mm on the Pentax SFXn with Agfa 200 ISO film. greetings Markus
Re: I'm Getting an Auto Focus Camera
Kerosene, converted to cooking oil, Shel you modernist, I'd have thought you'd be using coal. Shel Belinkoff wrote: It's an old, kerosene powered TV converted to run on used cooking oil. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson Sorry, didn't notice the "non" in there! I take back all my comments. But, then again, television? Pretty high tech stuff inside there. ;-) -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: Roman burger recipe ( Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
Actually it was in a pub, I was there with some English kids and even they wouldn't go into a Wimpy. Bob W wrote: Here's the recipe from Apicius: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Pantheon/9013/recipies.html#3 I have a book of ancient Roman recipes, adapted for the modern kitchen. There are some very interesting dishes. You can also use Thai fish sauce instead of liquamen. In fact, Thai fish sauce is more or less identical to Roman liquamen. What you had in England before McDonalds was probably a Wimpy - not very good. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2005 00:32 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update Well something like them has been, but what I had in England wasn't even close, and I'm not a big fan of McDonnalds. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: PESO - Arch
Bruce, IMHO this is not as strong as your other recent posts. Great elements are there but they are in competition with each other, competing for my attention. Isolate and simplify. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:22 AM Subject: PESO - Arch > There is a big portion of Monument Valley that you cannot go into > without a guide and good 4 wheel drive for the sand. For this trip, I > was able to arrange a private tour for our group in an air-conditioned > 4-wheel drive van. We were able to start the tour in the early > afternoon and end at sundown. It made it really nice because we could > stop anytime we wanted for as long as we wanted to take pictures and > got to see the part that is missed by many. It turns out that there > are a bunch of arches in Monument Valley. > > Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, Handheld, polarizer > ISO 400, 1/350 sec @ f/9.5 > Converted from Raw using Capture One LE > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/monumentvalley_0354.htm > > Comments welcome > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce >
Re: Tip for ist D eye cup
I think I reported that a while ago, amazing isn't it? Charles Wilson wrote: Dear All, Recently lost my eye cup for the ist D. In my desperation I tried the eye cup from my MZ - 5n and to my surprise I found it fitted, even better much tighter fit than the original ist D one. Regards Charles Wilson Sydney, Australia -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Me and PAWs
Go Lance.. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: OT: Me and PAWs > The last month or two has been really busy for me. First there was > GFM. Then CMWC at NYC. Throw in several visits with my kids, and > there go most of my weekends. > > This past week my housemate's brother was visiting, and since the > computer is in the spare room, access to the computer has been > curtailed greatly. > > Plus, there's the Tour de France taking up much time both mornings > (live) and evenings (on taped replays). > > Bottom line is (as some of you may have noticed), my participation on > the list is way down lately. This list is such a freaking great > place, I've had more than one (actually, the exact number is two > ) people contact me off list to ask if everything's okay. Kind > of reminds me of credit card companies who call if all of a sudden you > stop shopping... . > > So, I haven't been commented on PAWs at all for a while. I think I'm > basically going to have to delete them all, and start fresh. I feel > kind of badly about it, but believe it or not, I've got everything > backlogged back to about mid-June, and there's just no way I can catch > up. > > Anyway, it's Saturday morning, and it's a tradition that the Jet Fuel > Cafe gets a big-screen TV to show the Tour de Lance live, which starts > in about 1/2 hour, so I'm outta here. > > Catch y'all later today - I'll get to some PAWs, I promise. > > cheers, > frank > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >
Re: Definitions
That's why you go to Mickey D's. Known Quality Assurance programs. Bob S. On 7/16/05, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jerry in Houston wrote: > > > < > Big Macs have been known to grow hair on your head... > > Regards, Bob S.>> > > > > Last time I was in London I bought a coupla hamburgers > > at a roach coach outside the British Museum gad, > > they made Mcdonalds seem great . > > > > Same for hamburgesas in Guatamala > > Interesting story on British TV this week. A guy goes to ten fast food > outlets with a supposed supply of illegal meat - that is, meat that has > not gone through the proper hygiene checks. (Needless to say, it was > really legal meat) Six out of the ten expressed an interest in buying > it. They got one place on film buying the supposedly illegal meat for > itself and a sister establishment. > > Then the programme went into really gruesome stuff about what _real_ > illegal meat sellers do to the product to make it appear edible. > > I was never keen on takeaway food before but that's me finished, for ever. > > m > >
Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update
White Tower hamburgers were better. Same size on a round bun (actually they were bigger (3 bites). 12 for a buck. But those were walk in fast food places for pedestrians (You stopped off after getting off the trolly and carried them the rest of the way home) When the last pedestrian died they went out of business (GRIN). graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- keithw wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: White Castle burgers were often called "belly bombs" . But what can you expect for an 8-cent burger (yes, that's what they cost at one time!) Shel Yeah, 8¢, but remember they were not much bigger than a 50¢ piece! More than once I got their 6 for a quarter, or whatever it was... One usually ate 5 or 6 or more at a sitting, 'cause they were so small... Each one about a bite and a half! keith [Original Message] From: John Francis Anyone who considers McDonalds to be the nadir of bad hamburgers has never sampled the culinary delights of a Wimpy bar (or White Castle, come to that). -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 7/15/2005
Re: More HP-Kodak rumours
It is estimated that by 2010 HP will own every company in the world except Microsoft. GRIN! graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Mark Roberts wrote: From today's Chicago Tribune: "Eastman Kodak increased 70 cents, to $28.35, on speculation among traders that the company might be purchased by Hewlett-Packard. Spokesmen for both companies declined to comment. Hewlett-Packard advanced 31 cents, to $24.42." http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0507140163jul14,1,6817741.story?coll=chi-business-hed Log-in required. (Bug-me-not says username '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' and password 'tribune') -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 7/15/2005
Re: Definitions
One of the things about the fast food chains like McD is they are supposed to get all their food from the franchiser. But having worked in one for a week once I can tell you that that box of meat goes in and out of the freezer for many a day. Be glad they over cook everything. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- mike wilson wrote: Jerry in Houston wrote: <> Last time I was in London I bought a coupla hamburgers at a roach coach outside the British Museum gad, they made Mcdonalds seem great . Same for hamburgesas in Guatamala Interesting story on British TV this week. A guy goes to ten fast food outlets with a supposed supply of illegal meat - that is, meat that has not gone through the proper hygiene checks. (Needless to say, it was really legal meat) Six out of the ten expressed an interest in buying it. They got one place on film buying the supposedly illegal meat for itself and a sister establishment. Then the programme went into really gruesome stuff about what _real_ illegal meat sellers do to the product to make it appear edible. I was never keen on takeaway food before but that's me finished, for ever. m -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.16/50 - Release Date: 7/15/2005
Re: In-Body Image Stabilization
Exactly. Image stabilization treats the most common cause of image degradation, camera motion from hand holding at slow shutter speeds. If you're using a tripod for maximum stability, you turn it off. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Herb Chong wrote: which do you think is greater, a blurred shot from camera movement, or a blurred shot from using the edge of the lens? Herb... - Original Message - From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: In-Body Image Stabilization I remain sceptical about the image quality one can get using the edge of many lenses. Recall the review I posted a few days ago of the DA 50-200. Overall it is pretty good for the price, and I would recommend it for most uses. It is, however, consistently just a bit weak at the edges. What kind of image quality would one get shifting the sensor a few mm with such a lens?
