Re: AF540FGZ postponed
Hmmm... maybe for making it compatible with new features to be introduced by next generation DSLR's. Dario - Original Message - From: Bertil Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: AF540FGZ postponed According to PCWatch, the new flash is postponed to April 2006, probably due to a redesign, and a change in specs. Expected price – 52,500 Yen. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/accessories/2005/12/07/2846.html
RE: Sure is nice
People who work for a company with a Microsoft volume license can get a lot of the software for practically nothing. I recently ordered Office 2003 Professional for the cost of handling pp (£17.30). Even though I have most of it already, it's still a good deal for the bits I don't have. http://www.microsoft.com/uk/partner/licensing_and_compliance/sa/hup/ -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Collin R Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 December 2005 02:43 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: OT: Sure is nice I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1 improvement. Oh, and the best bargain on OS is this ... (good for developers) Sign up as a Microsoft developer. For $299 ($199 annual renewal) you get multiple licenses of XP/XPx64, and Server 2003 and a bunch of back office stuff. Visio, too. SQL. Most of everything. Really a good package deal.
Re: No fur, No photos
Tom, I don't think intelligence and common sense are particularly overrated as survival traits, but certainly as breeding traits. Joiners increase their chance of breeding success only if the joining is not connected with reduced chance of survival. Not seeing the consequences of ones actions can be terminal. :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:52 AM Subject: Re: No fur, No photos That is not a very well thought out comment, Jostein. Those people are joiners their chance of breeding is twice the general populations. Intelligence and common sense are apparently highly over rated as survival traits. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Jostein wrote: The brush is too wide for the occasion, I agree. It's a bit puzzling, though, to hide behind the slogan. Why don't they want their faces to be connected to the case they're fighting for? Concerning the conspicuously damaging effect on the animal welfare (I dislike rights here) movement, I'm not at all sure if this is staged by opponents to the movement. Unless they're pulling the strings somewhere in the shadows. The foot-soldiers are just naïve young adults with reduced ability to see the consequences of their actions. In other words, prime candidates for darwininan selection...:-) Jostein - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:32 PM Subject: RE: No fur, No photos Rather a broad brush you're painting with there, Jostein. It doesn't follow that someone who hides their face condones extreme action of that type. The extremists in the animal rights movement have had a very damaging effect on the mainstream. Suspiciously so, wouldn't you say? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2005 22:02 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: No fur, No photos That may be because today's animal activists are more prone to use illegal and stupid forms of action. Like releasing North-American minks from fur farms in Europe. Apparently, wild European ferrets are not worthy of concern. I'd vote to have animal activists replacing rats in the lab, too. Jostein
Re: need help recognizing tripod head
On Dec 9, 2005, at 4:56 PM, William Robb wrote: I had one of those. It was what I learned to hate ballheads with. It was the crankiest piece of equipment I have ever owned. Mine had a badly cast ball, I think, and it froze to the socket after sitting for a while. I never did find a grease that would make it work, and I spent a good long while polishing the ball and socket smooth as well. I take it some of them work properly? Mine works OK but it's never seen anything bigger than a 400/5.6. The only problem I have with it is that if I rotate the rig left/ right, the friction catches the locking lever so it ends up locking itself. But that's quite easy to work around... just hold the lever open :) I only use mine on the monopod and most of the time I just leave the ball unlocked. - Dave
Re: Wagers?
Hi! I just spent two days reorganizing tool boxes. Any wagers on how long they will stay like this. http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/roll-around.jpg Digital sure seems made for photos like this. Taken about 10 minutes ago with built in flash. Color temperture increased from 5450 to 6500 in PS Raw converter. Then opened in PS reduced to 800x600 using bicubic-sharper. The photo seems a bit brighter and more saturated than reality. Just to check, how does it look on your monitor. It looks like a toolbox ;-). It looks just fine, Tom. Boris
OT - Re: No fur, No photos
Hi Markus, No smiley was intended. I don't approve of needless animal suffering either, but we may differ in the understanding of needless. In an ideal world, we would be able to test all new drugs by computer simulations. This is not possible in the real world. The most important reason is that we do not know all the biochemical pathways of the human body. There are situations where we still have to simulate the effect on humans by looking at how it affects other animals, preferrably mammals. Testing of antidepressive drugs comes to mind, as does studies of diseases like bird flu and other viruses that need a host to be active. HIV/AIDS research is one particular area that would be seriously slowed down without lab animals. I wouldn't vouch for using animals in cosmetics research, though. I firmly believe that the world has seen enough anti-wrinkle creams already. Jostein - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:29 AM Subject: RE: No fur, No photos Hi Jostein I miss the smiley in your statement. I'd vote for closing most of those labs immediately and forever. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:02 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: No fur, No photos That may be because today's animal activists are more prone to use illegal and stupid forms of action. Like releasing North-American minks from fur farms in Europe. Apparently, wild European ferrets are not worthy of concern. I'd vote to have animal activists replacing rats in the lab, too. Jostein - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:57 PM Subject: PESO: No fur, No photos In a distant time and place, when I was a rebellious college student demonstrating against the war, the government, and the status quo, I would have been pleased if someone took my picture. Apparently that's not the case any more, at least not among the animal lover set. The two anti-fur ladies who spotted me quickly ducked behind their signs. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3935563size=lg
Re: OT: Sure is nice
Hard disk speed and layout is responsible for a good part of how long it takes to make a conversion. A separate, dedicated HD for the PS scratch disk is highly recommended. My program files are on a separate partition, as is the Windows Paging File, and the working files are on another drive. Lots of free contiguous space (i.e., an unfragmented disk) is another important consideration. Another factor is how you've set up Photoshop to use memory, what programs and services are running in the background, and how well you've optimized Photoshop to run in your individual environment. Using Win XP Home with a 2.8GHz processor and 2GB ram with 60% allocated to Photoshop, the average conversion time from a 9+mb RAW file to a 16-bit PSD on my machine is 4.3 seconds based on Photoshop's timing. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 12/8/2005 10:12:21 PM Subject: Re: OT: Sure is nice Hi! I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1 improvement. Which software are you using for RAW conversion? Why I ask is that RAW 48bit TIFF 1:1 should take under 4 seconds using ACR on a 3GHz P4 My Athlon 64, standard XP, 1.5 gig RAM takes less than 5 seconds in CS2... I am talking about 6 MP output... For 24 MP output it is less than 10 seconds... Though I never actually measured it... It is just sufficiently fast in my tunnel of reality... Boris
Re: Did it right this time -- Comments please
Hi! http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/IMGP1403800.jpg http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/IMGP1400800.jpg These are un-retouched images *ist DS FA50/1.4 1/60 @ f5.6 2 - Sunpak 611 @ about 25 degrees off either side, full power, 1 through umbrella, one through softbox. I actually like the violin image better... I think I'd agree with the opinion that it would be a good idea to crop some off the top... You're surely having great fun, Collin. Boris
Re: You want cats,here's cats:-)
Hi! http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=bookelly4309.jpg Taken last night, but the AF was hunting a smidge,so its a bit soft. istD DA 16-45 Sigma 500 super Boo on the left, Kelly on the right. SO scooops the poops.:-) The cat on the right thinking: I'll skin that biped that holds that flashy thingie... The cat next to him: I'd like some fresh human meat too... LOL. Boris
Re: OT: Sure is nice
Hi! Hard disk speed and layout is responsible for a good part of how long it takes to make a conversion. A separate, dedicated HD for the PS scratch disk is highly recommended. My program files are on a separate partition, as is the Windows Paging File, and the working files are on another drive. Lots of free contiguous space (i.e., an unfragmented disk) is another important consideration. That's right. I have a dedicated partition to PS scratch files... Also I have two hard drives... Another factor is how you've set up Photoshop to use memory, what programs and services are running in the background, and how well you've optimized Photoshop to run in your individual environment. Using Win XP Home with a 2.8GHz processor and 2GB ram with 60% allocated to Photoshop, the average conversion time from a 9+mb RAW file to a 16-bit PSD on my machine is 4.3 seconds based on Photoshop's timing. I allow PS to take 85% of my RAM... The amount of other stuff running at the same time is minimal. Boris
Re: need help recognizing tripod head
Looks like my Manfrotto tripod head, number 168. The newer version looks like this: http://www.fotonatura.org/material/articulo.php?id_producto=194 It's not very good for heavy lenses, but works OK with MF up to 180mm, which is the longest I have. DagT fra: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] emne: need help recognizing tripod head I know the tripod base is a Bogen 3221, but: http://www.g0nz.com/images/4d_1_sbl.JPG Anyonw know what that tripod head is? thanks, rg
Re: PESO: Safe in Great-grandmother's hands
Hi! So...we're out of town for 4 days - daughter-in-law is pregnant and due to deliver on the 10th, but the doc says it may be sooner. We tell her no births until we're back in town. Arrive home 1PM, baby born 4:21PM. Perfect timing, perfect baby. Here he is at about 4 hours old. http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/cal/imgp0199.htm Comments, critiques OK, but mostly just bragging ;) This is just precious! Boris
Re: AF540FGZ postponed
On 2005-12-09, at 09:05, Dario Bonazza wrote: Hmmm... maybe for making it compatible with new features to be introduced by next generation DSLR's. And maybe 645D. A few years ago Pentax patented flash exposure metering system for SLRs that takes object's colour in consideration, maybe they'll introduce this too? Just my pure speculation :-) -- Best regards Sylwek
Re: Wagers?
On Dec 9, 2005, at 4:13 PM, graywolf wrote: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/roll-around.jpg They're too clean. Don't even think about washing your overalls either. - Dave
Re: GESO: East Africa
Hi! I've returned from my trip to East africa, I managed to do just about everything I wanted to - safaris, climbing Kilimanjaro, diving in Zanzibar. I'm trying to put together a bit of a web site, my hope is to use the GPS track overlaid on top of a Google maps page, and linked to my photos and log entries.. but that might take a while for me to set up. In the meantime, I bought a domain, and I've got a bit of a place-holder there, with a few of the photos that I've managed to sort through - take a look if you're interested, I'd love to hear some feedback. http://forksandhope.com/Africa.html Magnificent photography from evidently a rather remarkable trip! Most enjoyable to look at them... Mind if I ask you to let us know when you've done preparing the page... I'd like to see it when it is completed. Boris
Merge to HDR
Hi all, I've been playing with HDR stuff in Photoshop during the past couple of days. The Merge to HDR tool was obviously designed for digital cameras, but I've been abusing it a bit by throwing it a handful of files from my film scanner to see if I can obtain improved shadow detail. Basically I scanned the same frame a few times with different exposure settings then fed them into the HDR tool. In the end I've decided that it's capable of some fantastic results but unfortunately its limitations mean it's not really useful to me. When importing files there is an option to have it automatically align the images. This is great as my scanner doesn't seem to scan in exactly the same place each time. The problem is that it runs out of memory with two 180Mb files (on a 3Gb machine). Using 50Mb files worked fine, and the results didn't need a lot of massaging afterwards to produce an excellent result. With just two files I was able to get about an extra stop of shadow detail. Converting HDR down to 16-bit is quite a complicated task in itself... I wouldn't be surprised if someone had written a book on just that subject. It needed to be done because I wanted to apply some Curves layers, but you can't use layers in HDR mode (in fact, you can't do much at all in HDR mode). With my large files I tried merging the shadow areas manually but it required quite a lot of effort to achieve a result that wasn't quite as good. It might be worth doing for a critical image but not for the scans I'm doing at the moment. I might have another go at it by attempting to manually align the images before feeding them into the HDR tool. Hopefully it won't be too frustrating :) - Dave
Re: OT: Sure is nice
That may be too much for your system. It doesn't leave much for the operating system, services that are running in the background, and for some tools, brushes, and filters in PS which rely on using memory outside of that which Photoshop uses. Try dropping the PS memory allocation to 60% and see if you notice any improvement. When I use a lot of layers, or make heavy use of the healing brush, PS slows considerably at some point. Using less memory for PS gives better results. YMMV Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman I allow PS to take 85% of my RAM... The amount of other stuff running at the same time is minimal.
Re: No fur, No photos
Markus, I can stay on topic here. :-) My first photographic assignment (all done with Pentax) some nine years ago was to produce a series of landscapes from the local community where we lived at the time. One day while working the landscape of a neighbouring island, a Toyota Hilux approached at high speed. A farmer jumped out and was outright aggressive to me. Nasty words and threats I will not repeat here. Fortunately I was about 20 cm taller than the guy, otherwise I think he would have attacked me physically. After a while I got out of him that he suspected me to be an animal rights activist spying out his pelt farm. I tried to reassure him that I was not, but he didn't really want to believe me. However, he got back into his car and let me continue. The experience shook me too much to do anything more that day. As it turned out, he was very tense at the time because a nearby pelt farmer had been threatened by an activist. This particular activist had walked straight into the farm and began taking photos of the caged animals with flash. Later, the photos turned up at the local photo club, and it was all too obvious that the activist's behaviour was scaring the animals badly. Besides, the photos were not good. Overexposed, slightly blurred and not really showing the photographer's intent. I was a teacher at that time, and to my surprise the activist was one of my students; a woman of age 25. Over the next couple of days I talked things over with her, and learned her reasoning. She had much love and empathy for the caged animals, of course, but it was all emotions and no knowledge. She categorically denied that her behaviour at the farm had scared the animals. She was confident in that the animals, mostly silver fox, would get a much better life if the cage doors were just opened. I asked her specifically what she believed would happen to the local wildlife, and she replied that she couldn't care less. :-o The nice end to the story is that the farmer came to see the exhibition a year later, and then came up to me and apologised his behaviour. If you'd like to see some of the images produced for that project, there's an essay about the place on my website et http://www.oksne.net . It's called fnnoy. No pelt farms there, only a salmon pen. Finally, I'd like to say that I'm not particularly in favour of pelt farming. I just find the methods of the activists to be outright stupid. Jostein - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:48 AM Subject: RE: No fur, No photos Hi Jostein I disagree completely with you here. Do I really have to look out for some (Pentax) photos of Scandinavia pelt animal farms and show them here to stay on topic? greetings Markus The foot-soldiers are just naïve young adults with reduced ability to see the consequences of their actions. In other words, prime candidates for darwininan selection...:-) Jostein
Re: OT - HUMOR: Drunk Driving Stop Video
lol She got him off his guard there... Jostein - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 3:03 AM Subject: OT - HUMOR: Drunk Driving Stop Video Video and sound taken from the arresting officer's patrol car: Runs on Windows Media Player, maybe other viewers as well. 2MB file. http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/DUIStop.wmv Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
Re: OT: Sure is nice
On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:58 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hard disk speed and layout is responsible for a good part of how long it takes to make a conversion. A separate, dedicated HD for the PS scratch disk is highly recommended. A big RAM disk would do the trick. Make it big enough and it could hold both PS scratch and the system swap space. I'd be interested to try that on a fully-loaded quad G5 machine. They'll take 16Gb if your pockets are deep enough... PS can only use a few Gb, and the system would only need another Gb or so on top of that. The rest can be turned into light-speed scratch space. Just don't edit too much at once: CS2 can handle up to 64 exabytes of scratch... that's 64 billion Gb... - Dave
Re: OT: Sure is nice
Should have added: HD is a new Maxtor 100G SATA drive. (They're available locally for $100 with a $70 mail-in rebate, make them a mere $30. So, who wants me to pick up stuff for 'em) Collin
Re: Wagers?
On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:13 PM, graywolf wrote: Just to check, how does it look on your monitor. Way too neat! Toolboxes are supposed to be messy -- like desks. Bob
Re: PESO- Pirate Bob
On Dec 9, 2005, at 1:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I see... It makes sense... I suppose the issue here is somewhat cultural... The image of Pirate Bob instilled in me by Soviet Cinematography is similar yet different ;-). Of course I know nothing of the Soviet cinema. We were after the archetypal pirate as depicted by Rafael Sabatini and Hollywood. I'm sure that real pirates were probably pretty unattractive, and smelled bad to boot! Bob
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html Technical: IstD, 77mm at f11. This is straight from camera to you, just a black and white conversion a resize amd a bit of sharpening. William Robb It worked just fine! keith
Re: Did it right this time -- Comments please
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/IMGP1403800.jpg http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/IMGP1400800.jpg These are un-retouched images *ist DS FA50/1.4 1/60 @ f5.6 2 - Sunpak 611 @ about 25 degrees off either side, full power, 1 through umbrella, one through softbox. Nice lighting. Too much background on the flowers. I'd have shot that as a vertical. On the violin, I'd have used a slightly higher camera angle and turned the bow over so you could see what it is better. Bob
Re: Wagers?
On 12/9/05, Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Looks pretty realistic on my monitor (calibrated today after I got too sick of making the reminders go away), I don't think it really looks particularly over- saturated either, maybe the flash makes them look more saturated than the ambient lighting? Those reminders sure are annoying. My record for ignoring them is 23 days vbg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Wagers?
Looks fine on my monitor. Just the way a toolbox should be g That little bit of extra effort taken at the end of a job, makes the next so much easier. Dave On 12/9/05, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent two days reorganizing tool boxes. Any wagers on how long they will stay like this. http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/roll-around.jpg Digital sure seems made for photos like this. Taken about 10 minutes ago with built in flash. Color temperture increased from 5450 to 6500 in PS Raw converter. Then opened in PS reduced to 800x600 using bicubic-sharper. The photo seems a bit brighter and more saturated than reality. Just to check, how does it look on your monitor. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof ---
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
Nice shot. Excellent light. But what's that on her nose? Is it pierced? Hope it's just a spec that you can clone out of the pic. In fact, if it's pierced I'd clone the pin out if I were to put the pic in my portfolio. But as I said, a very nice shot of a pretty girl. Paul On Dec 9, 2005, at 12:34 AM, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html Technical: IstD, 77mm at f11. This is straight from camera to you, just a black and white conversion a resize amd a bit of sharpening. William Robb
Re: Re: No fur, No photos
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally, I'd like to say that I'm not particularly in favour of pelt farming. I just find the methods of the activists to be outright stupid. Jostein Some of them (whether real activists or otherwise) have done considerable harm to the ecology of the UK. In my surveys of freshwater bodies here, I find considerably more Mink (freed en masse from UK fur farms) than Water Voles. As Mink predate Water Voles, this is not suprising. Mink also eat chicks and eggs. I am waiting for the link to dramatic drops in songbird numbers to be made. m - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:48 AM Subject: RE: No fur, No photos Hi Jostein I disagree completely with you here. Do I really have to look out for some (Pentax) photos of Scandinavia pelt animal farms and show them here to stay on topic? greetings Markus The foot-soldiers are just naïve young adults with reduced ability to see the consequences of their actions. In other words, prime candidates for darwininan selection...:-) Jostein - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: No fur, No photos
Hi! The nice end to the story is that the farmer came to see the exhibition a year later, and then came up to me and apologised his behaviour. If you'd like to see some of the images produced for that project, there's an essay about the place on my website et http://www.oksne.net . It's called fnnoy. No pelt farms there, only a salmon pen. Finally, I'd like to say that I'm not particularly in favour of pelt farming. I just find the methods of the activists to be outright stupid. This story has just a bit more of continuation... Back in 2004 we were driving around (I couldn't remember now why we drove that very way)... I saw a very nice scene and kindly asked Jostein to pull over so that I can take some shots. Eventually Jostein had to warn me not to point my camera in certain direction. After few questions and answers it became apparent that what he just wrote here was the reason. Here is the view: http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/233521 Back to the topic of this thread... I am reasonably certain that if we were to take a sample of those so called activist and ask them to answer some honest questions honestly, we would be very surprised. I don't condone animal experiments but in some cases it saves lives, even lives of the animals themselves... Say, the bird flu... Although of course noone would care about the birds, only about bipeds... Boris (who does not use anti-wrinkle cream)
Re: Re: Wagers?
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/09 Fri AM 11:04:51 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Wagers? On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:13 PM, graywolf wrote: Just to check, how does it look on your monitor. Way too neat! Toolboxes are supposed to be messy -- like desks. I got told off at work last week for upsetting someone. Her, looking at my desk: An untidy desk is the sign of an untidy mind. Me, looking at her desk: Oh look, an empty desk. Your tool box looks fine, Tom. In all senses. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT again: Too busy for the PDML
Hi! I've been working furiously on the movie I'm producing for my digital video class, so I haven't posted anything of significance lately (so what else is new?) But I still read most of what's going on, so don't get any funny ideas! ...or at least not anything weirder than usual. Anyway, for your entertainment and edification, here's some new music I wrote for my film (digital video): http://www.robertstech.com/files/ahutongariki.mp3 (4.5 meg download) Mark, what does the name mean? Boris
Re: Wagers?
I presume these are the ones you use for fixing cameras. Where are the serious tools Tom? Don Bob Shell wrote: On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:13 PM, graywolf wrote: Just to check, how does it look on your monitor. Way too neat! Toolboxes are supposed to be messy -- like desks. Bob -- Dr E D F Williams ___ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams See feature: The Cement Company from Hell Updated: Print Gallery-- 16 11 2005
Re: No fur, No photos
Hi, I couldn't agree more with Jostein about the behaviour of anima rights activists. They do the same in Sweden. Release north american minks into the wild making enormous environmental catastrophy onto bird and fish since they have few natural predators to give them a fight. From where I originate, southern Swedish Lapland, minik is major problem with the local fish and birdlife - of course originally it was the pelt farmers who had a poor fencing allowing some animals to escape. Thus they and the animal rights activists work hand in hand to destroy our local fauna. Ironic isn't it. Anyhow, resorting to violence and doing stupid things like releasing non-wild non-domestic animals into the wild is just a lazy method (quick and dirty is the term) instead for taking the hard working line and work through democratic methods. Josteins website - You got some really nice pictures there Jostein, making me want to go to Norway on holiday soon. Cheers, Ronald Jostein wrote: Markus, I can stay on topic here. :-) My first photographic assignment (all done with Pentax) some nine years ago was to produce a series of landscapes from the local community where we lived at the time. One day while working the landscape of a neighbouring island, a Toyota Hilux approached at high speed. A farmer jumped out and was outright aggressive to me. Nasty words and threats I will not repeat here. Fortunately I was about 20 cm taller than the guy, otherwise I think he would have attacked me physically. After a while I got out of him that he suspected me to be an animal rights activist spying out his pelt farm. I tried to reassure him that I was not, but he didn't really want to believe me. However, he got back into his car and let me continue. The experience shook me too much to do anything more that day. As it turned out, he was very tense at the time because a nearby pelt farmer had been threatened by an activist. This particular activist had walked straight into the farm and began taking photos of the caged animals with flash. Later, the photos turned up at the local photo club, and it was all too obvious that the activist's behaviour was scaring the animals badly. Besides, the photos were not good. Overexposed, slightly blurred and not really showing the photographer's intent. I was a teacher at that time, and to my surprise the activist was one of my students; a woman of age 25. Over the next couple of days I talked things over with her, and learned her reasoning. She had much love and empathy for the caged animals, of course, but it was all emotions and no knowledge. She categorically denied that her behaviour at the farm had scared the animals. She was confident in that the animals, mostly silver fox, would get a much better life if the cage doors were just opened. I asked her specifically what she believed would happen to the local wildlife, and she replied that she couldn't care less. :-o The nice end to the story is that the farmer came to see the exhibition a year later, and then came up to me and apologised his behaviour. If you'd like to see some of the images produced for that project, there's an essay about the place on my website et http://www.oksne.net . It's called fnnoy. No pelt farms there, only a salmon pen. Finally, I'd like to say that I'm not particularly in favour of pelt farming. I just find the methods of the activists to be outright stupid. Jostein - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:48 AM Subject: RE: No fur, No photos Hi Jostein I disagree completely with you here. Do I really have to look out for some (Pentax) photos of Scandinavia pelt animal farms and show them here to stay on topic? greetings Markus The foot-soldiers are just naïve young adults with reduced ability to see the consequences of their actions. In other words, prime candidates for darwininan selection...:-) Jostein
FS: MX motordrive and Battery Grip for MX/LX
Hi, I have for sale MX Motordrive that looks very nice with some small scratches and slight color wear. Overall a nice item. Asking 120 Euro Battery Grip M for MX or LX motordrive. This grip is the one that takes AA batteries. Looks used but not abused. Asking 110 Euro. I will ship anywhere at actual mailing cost. Contact me offlist if interested. I might be a bit slow in ansering emails during the weekend due to other activities. But I'll be in touch as soon as I can. Cheers, Ronald
FS: 200 f2.8 screwmount - Mint
I have for sale a Sigma 200 f2.8, YS- screwmount. The lens comes with a macromode making focusing to !/3 of full size possible. This part though I believe is more of a softfocus thing than the real macro. The lens has only been used a couple of times. Aperture and focusing works snappy and smoothly. Aperture is the so called automatic for pentax M42. Optics fine and without marks and blemishes. Asking 140 Euro. Ship from Sweden at actual cost. Cheers, Ronald
Re: need help recognizing tripod head
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Mann Otherwise known as the Manfrotto 168. I bought one because it takes the same lens-plate as the 029 pan/tilt head. It works nicely on the monopod. I had one of those. It was what I learned to hate ballheads with. It was the crankiest piece of equipment I have ever owned. Mine had a badly cast ball, I think, and it froze to the socket after sitting for a while. I never did find a grease that would make it work, and I spent a good long while polishing the ball and socket smooth as well. I take it some of them work properly? I have the 3055 ball head and it works quite well. A 300/2.8 with 2x teleconverter is a bit much for it but for the price I can't really complain. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: No fur, No photos
On Dec 9, 2005, at 7:02 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: This story has just a bit more of continuation... Back in 2004 we were driving around (I couldn't remember now why we drove that very way)... I saw a very nice scene and kindly asked Jostein to pull over so that I can take some shots. Eventually Jostein had to warn me not to point my camera in certain direction. After few questions and answers it became apparent that what he just wrote here was the reason. Several years ago I was on one of my driving trips in rural Virginia looking for interesting photographs. I was deep in the backwoods on a dirt road. I saw a stunning landscape so I stopped the car and got out (no room to pull over) planning to explore the possibilities of the scene. Just as I had gotten my tripod set up and was mounting the camera, a very rough looking country fellow in bib overalls stepped out of the woods, rifle in hand. He didn't say a word, just looked at me really hard. At about the same time a breeze kicked up from his direction carrying the unmistakable smell -- a corn whiskey still. I packed everything back in the car as quickly as I could and continued on my way. Some people you just don't mess with. Bob
FS: Friday MX Motordrive and Battery Grip
Hi, I have for sale MX Motordrive that looks very nice with some small scratches and slight color wear. Overall a nice item. Asking 120 Euro Battery Grip M for MX or LX motordrive. This grip is the one that takes AA batteries. Looks used but not abused. Asking 110 Euro. I will ship anywhere at actual mailing cost. Cheers, Ronald
Re: No fur, No photos
Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several years ago I was on one of my driving trips in rural Virginia looking for interesting photographs. I was deep in the backwoods on a dirt road. I saw a stunning landscape so I stopped the car and got out (no room to pull over) planning to explore the possibilities of the scene. Just as I had gotten my tripod set up and was mounting the camera, a very rough looking country fellow in bib overalls stepped out of the woods, rifle in hand. He didn't say a word, just looked at me really hard. At about the same time a breeze kicked up from his direction carrying the unmistakable smell -- a corn whiskey still. I packed everything back in the car as quickly as I could and continued on my way. Some people you just don't mess with. A good friend of mine is the medical examiner for Winston-Salem, NC (and a lot of surrounding area). He knows all the general areas where the stills and marijuana farms (pot is estimated by some to be North Carolina's number 2 cash crop) are so he can make sure to get a police escort when he needs to retrieve a body from one of these places. Some of them have virtual private armies. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: No fur, No photos
Here in the old world we learned the wild west - it should maybe the wild east Cheers, ronald Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several years ago I was on one of my driving trips in rural Virginia looking for interesting photographs. I was deep in the backwoods on a dirt road. I saw a stunning landscape so I stopped the car and got out (no room to pull over) planning to explore the possibilities of the scene. Just as I had gotten my tripod set up and was mounting the camera, a very rough looking country fellow in bib overalls stepped out of the woods, rifle in hand. He didn't say a word, just looked at me really hard. At about the same time a breeze kicked up from his direction carrying the unmistakable smell -- a corn whiskey still. I packed everything back in the car as quickly as I could and continued on my way. Some people you just don't mess with. A good friend of mine is the medical examiner for Winston-Salem, NC (and a lot of surrounding area). He knows all the general areas where the stills and marijuana farms (pot is estimated by some to be North Carolina's number 2 cash crop) are so he can make sure to get a police escort when he needs to retrieve a body from one of these places. Some of them have virtual private armies.
Re: No fur, No photos
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't condone animal experiments but in some cases it saves lives, even lives of the animals themselves... Say, the bird flu... Although of course noone would care about the birds, only about bipeds... Last time I looked, birds are bipeds too. :-) Jostein (just pecking)
Re: Re: No fur, No photos
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of them (whether real activists or otherwise) have done considerable harm to the ecology of the UK. In my surveys of freshwater bodies here, I find considerably more Mink (freed en masse from UK fur farms) than Water Voles. As Mink predate Water Voles, this is not suprising. Mink also eat chicks and eggs. I am waiting for the link to dramatic drops in songbird numbers to be made. The first recognition of wild mink in Norway was 1927, following a mass-escape from a pelt farm on the west coast. By now, they are well established in the whole country. In the sixties, up to 17000 mink were shot yearly. In the same period, the wild ferret or polecat, has declined and almost disappeared from the fauna. A connection is suspected, but not proven. I'm not sure if songbirds are particularly affected, as the mink finds almost all its food close to water. Crayfish and waterfowl seems to be most affected over here, rather than songbirds. Jostein
Re: No fur, No photos
It's pretty much universal for rural areas, I think. Maybe the Wild Yeast? Jostein - Original Message - From: Ronald Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: Re: No fur, No photos Here in the old world we learned the wild west - it should maybe the wild east Cheers, ronald Mark Roberts wrote: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several years ago I was on one of my driving trips in rural Virginia looking for interesting photographs. I was deep in the backwoods on a dirt road. I saw a stunning landscape so I stopped the car and got out (no room to pull over) planning to explore the possibilities of the scene. Just as I had gotten my tripod set up and was mounting the camera, a very rough looking country fellow in bib overalls stepped out of the woods, rifle in hand. He didn't say a word, just looked at me really hard. At about the same time a breeze kicked up from his direction carrying the unmistakable smell -- a corn whiskey still. I packed everything back in the car as quickly as I could and continued on my way. Some people you just don't mess with. A good friend of mine is the medical examiner for Winston-Salem, NC (and a lot of surrounding area). He knows all the general areas where the stills and marijuana farms (pot is estimated by some to be North Carolina's number 2 cash crop) are so he can make sure to get a police escort when he needs to retrieve a body from one of these places. Some of them have virtual private armies.
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
Sorry Paul, I like the piercing. It's discreet, but attracts attention, in a good way (for me at least). Beautiful rendition of the skin too. Have seen too many over-photoshopped robo-babes lately. Thanks Mr Robb. D Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice shot. Excellent light. But what's that on her nose? Is it pierced? Hope it's just a spec that you can clone out of the pic. In fact, if it's pierced I'd clone the pin out if I were to put the pic in my portfolio. But as I said, a very nice shot of a pretty girl. Paul On Dec 9, 2005, at 12:34 AM, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html Technical: IstD, 77mm at f11. This is straight from camera to you, just a black and white conversion a resize amd a bit of sharpening. William Robb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Re: No fur, No photos
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/12/09 Fri PM 02:31:22 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: No fur, No photos - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of them (whether real activists or otherwise) have done considerable harm to the ecology of the UK. In my surveys of freshwater bodies here, I find considerably more Mink (freed en masse from UK fur farms) than Water Voles. As Mink predate Water Voles, this is not suprising. Mink also eat chicks and eggs. I am waiting for the link to dramatic drops in songbird numbers to be made. The first recognition of wild mink in Norway was 1927, following a mass-escape from a pelt farm on the west coast. By now, they are well established in the whole country. In the sixties, up to 17000 mink were shot yearly. In the same period, the wild ferret or polecat, has declined and almost disappeared from the fauna. A connection is suspected, but not proven. I'm not sure if songbirds are particularly affected, as the mink finds almost all its food close to water. Crayfish and waterfowl seems to be most affected over here, rather than songbirds. You've got more water than us. 8-) Seriously, predators will turn their hand to other things once their main (spelled easy) prey is gone or reduced to negligence. I suspect, without a shred of real evidence, that this is the case here. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: You want cats,here's cats:-)
Who said we wanted cats??? They both have that You talkin' to me look. Dave Brooks wrote: http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=bookelly4309.jpg Taken last night, but the AF was hunting a smidge,so its a bit soft. istD DA 16-45 Sigma 500 super Boo on the left, Kelly on the right. SO scooops the poops.:-) Dave David J Brooks Equine Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, Nikon D2H -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: No fur, No photos
Markus, governments and activists have sub organizations to do that. I've never heard of a business provoking someone to destroy their lively hood. Occam's razor rules, usually a cigar is just a cigar. Convoluted conspiracy theorys that put the culpability back on the victims fall apart on close examination, but you can believe anything you want, after all it is a belief. Markus Maurer wrote: Things like that happen Peter in a market as big as the chemical or fur industry. Ever heard of agent provocateurs ? greetings Markus -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:52 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: No fur, No photos Another conspericy theroy, a great way to protect the guilty if you can accomplish it. Bob W wrote: Rather a broad brush you're painting with there, Jostein. It doesn't follow that someone who hides their face condones extreme action of that type. The extremists in the animal rights movement have had a very damaging effect on the mainstream. Suspiciously so, wouldn't you say? -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2005 22:02 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: No fur, No photos That may be because today's animal activists are more prone to use illegal and stupid forms of action. Like releasing North-American minks from fur farms in Europe. Apparently, wild European ferrets are not worthy of concern. I'd vote to have animal activists replacing rats in the lab, too. Jostein -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: OT: Sure is nice
Damn, they've lowered the price, it used to be much more expensive... Collin R Brendemuehl wrote: I finally got around to a computer upgrade. AMD Sempron x64, XP x64, 1 gig ram. Now a RAW to TIFF or JPG conversion is 10 seconds. It was 5 min. on the 330MHz PIII system. That's a 30:1 improvement. Oh, and the best bargain on OS is this ... (good for developers) Sign up as a Microsoft developer. For $299 ($199 annual renewal) you get multiple licenses of XP/XPx64, and Server 2003 and a bunch of back office stuff. Visio, too. SQL. Most of everything. Really a good package deal. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: No fur, No photos
On 12/9/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip(pot is estimated by some to be North Carolina's number 2 cash crop)snip Only #2? It's thought that pot is the #1 cash crop in Canada: http://www.hypocrites.com/article15652.html cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO- Pirate Bob
Bob Shell wrote: On Dec 9, 2005, at 1:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I see... It makes sense... I suppose the issue here is somewhat cultural... The image of Pirate Bob instilled in me by Soviet Cinematography is similar yet different ;-). Of course I know nothing of the Soviet cinema. We were after the archetypal pirate as depicted by Rafael Sabatini and Hollywood. I'm sure that real pirates were probably pretty unattractive, and smelled bad to boot! Bob That's why the French invented the perfume industry, everyone and everything smelled bad in that era... -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
On 12/9/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html Technical: IstD, 77mm at f11. This is straight from camera to you, just a black and white conversion a resize amd a bit of sharpening. I don't know why, but nose piercings are so hot. (on women that is - and of course, I'd never stick holes in my body - I'm too old for that even were I interested). Lovely pic, pretty girl. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: No fur, No photos
On 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a distant time and place, when I was a rebellious college student demonstrating against the war, the government, and the status quo, I would have been pleased if someone took my picture. Apparently that's not the case any more, at least not among the animal lover set. The two anti-fur ladies who spotted me quickly ducked behind their signs. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3935563size=lg I think this is an interesting shot, Paul. Nice symmetry with the two signs down and the one in the middle up. Of course, there's the humour of the two holding the signs over their faces, as well. I really like the tonality of this as well. Great job of bw conversion (and this one needs to be bw, for that PJ look g). Neat shot, Paul. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO: Tanja
Joseph Tainter wrote: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/53066811 Nicely done, Wendy. Before opening I thought it might be a pic of our lost Fairygirl. Joe LOL! For just a second I thought that as well but I believe she spells her name Tanya and is way on the otherside of the globe ann
Re: PESO: Tanja
Powell Hargrave wrote: If this gets out of hand, i'll post some horse pictures on the days they stay inside. You don't want me to do that.g Dave(pitch fork )Brooks Smells better than cats. Or even dogs for that matter. Powell Perhaps less gross rather than better :) what a topic - gotta stop this sh*t ann
Re: PESO: No fur, No photos
Thanks Frank. This BW conversion was done by the fast and dirty method. Just a PhotoShop convert to grayscale and then some playing around with curves until I was happy. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a distant time and place, when I was a rebellious college student demonstrating against the war, the government, and the status quo, I would have been pleased if someone took my picture. Apparently that's not the case any more, at least not among the animal lover set. The two anti-fur ladies who spotted me quickly ducked behind their signs. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3935563size=lg I think this is an interesting shot, Paul. Nice symmetry with the two signs down and the one in the middle up. Of course, there's the humour of the two holding the signs over their faces, as well. I really like the tonality of this as well. Great job of bw conversion (and this one needs to be bw, for that PJ look g). Neat shot, Paul. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Wagers?
graywolf wrote: I just spent two days reorganizing tool boxes. Any wagers on how long they will stay like this. http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/roll-around.jpg Digital sure seems made for photos like this. Taken about 10 minutes ago with built in flash. Color temperture increased from 5450 to 6500 in PS Raw converter. Then opened in PS reduced to 800x600 using bicubic-sharper. The photo seems a bit brighter and more saturated than reality. Just to check, how does it look on your monitor. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Do you want to visit New York? I have four rooms that need your attention :) Looks real on my monitor - not overly saturated. ann the slob
Re: Wagers?
Powell Hargrave wrote: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/roll-around.jpg The photo seems a bit brighter and more saturated than reality. Just to check, how does it look on your monitor. graywolf Just, for the first time, profiled my monitor with the ColorPlus and it looks fine colour wise. Neatness wise is another thing. That's OK for a photo but if it looks like that in two weeks you have a problem. :) Powell I ALMOST wrote recommending a book on OCD :) ann
RE: PESO: A Cappuccino and the Paper
I just came home from work, so I'm far behind on my comments: A simple, and elegantly told story. I like it for that, and for esthetical reasons. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4. desember 2005 17:48 To: PDML Subject: PESO: A Cappuccino and the Paper Spotted a couple of Sundays ago outside the Jetfuel Cafe here in Toronto: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3925673 Comments always welcome. Thanks in advance. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: You want cats,here's cats:-)
Dave Brooks wrote: http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=bookelly4309.jpg Taken last night, but the AF was hunting a smidge,so its a bit soft. istD DA 16-45 Sigma 500 super Boo on the left, Kelly on the right. SO scooops the poops.:-) Dave David J Brooks Equine Photography in York Region www.caughtinmotion.com Pentax istD, Nikon D2H Yup - those are cats, recognized them right away. Kelly looks to be saying oh NO he's taking pictures of us again BORING! sweet shot, dave! ann loves cats but has none
Re: PESO - The Crosswalk
In a message dated 12/7/2005 11:57:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember Marlboro as a filter cig. Have they changed? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax Tongue slip, er, keyboard slip. They have brown/orangey filters. That's what I meant. Marnie Old keyboard in mouth.
RE: PESO PAW - Blue in my Lap
I believe this is one of the best relaxed cat pictures I've seen (and I have seen more than a couple). Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4. desember 2005 18:55 To: PDML Subject: PESO PAW - Blue in my Lap Blue is my friend Linda's cat. He's an affectionate Maine Coon. One afternoon he was especially friendly, and made himself at home in my lap for a while. Grabbed this with the little Sony DSC-S85. http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/blue/lap1.html Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
I should probably keep my mouth shut since, for the most part, I seem to be way out of step with the rest of those who've commented on this photo. But, being a fool and having just taken some pain medication, I'm gonna jump right in. I don't like it the way it is. First, there's a shiny spot on the tip of her nose - two actually. IMO, they should be brought down some. Her cheek below her left eye is a bit hot. That, too, might benefit from being toned down somewhat. The photo appears overly sharp and, IMO, could benefit from a little softer look. The sharp detail of her pores does little to enhance or add to what could be a very fine image. The wisps of hair that are over her left eye appear overly sharpened. There seems to be some halos around a few strands. Just curious, Bill, what sharpening technique did you use? Well, there y'have it. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax On 12/9/05, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html
Re: national Wildlife Federation photo contest
Tom Reese wrote: http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/article.cfm?issueID=79articleID=1158 and almost all digital captures... wonderful stuff, eh? ann
Re: PESO: Tanja
In a message dated 12/8/2005 7:27:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The world would be a better place if everyone had a dog (as a pet). William Robb === No reasons given? I am sort of wondering why you said that. Great shot, Wendy. Marnie aka Doe
Update: The fur fellow's feet
Close examination reveals that the feet of the aforementioned fur fanatic are indeed shod with what appears to be footwear formed from the hides of bovine type creatures. One of the female fur fanatics seems to be frolicing in leather as well. The fur fellow's feet can be found here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3937236
RE: PESO - Life and death
You are absolutely right Jens. No person has ever lived in that house. As Frank says, it is a boathouse. It is simply the tools of the trade of a fisherman. What I wanted to picture was the tools, represented by the boathouse, and death, symbolised by the tombstones. Life and death. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4. desember 2005 19:16 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Life and death A nice thought (and shot) - combining the shed and the tomb stones. I doubt, however, that people actually lived in this windowless shed?? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. december 2005 13:31 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO - Life and death This image sets me 50-60 years back in time, making me think about how people lived their lives back then. It was hard work, and many where lost while fishing. http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=26026 Olumpus 5050W. 64 ISO, f4, 1/400s Comments please. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
I agree in regard to the shiny spots on her nose and the slightly hot cheek. The skin texture doesn't bother me since her skin is so nice. Sharpening looks okay on my work monitor, but it's difficult to say for certain on a lo-res web image. Paul Paul -- Original message -- From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should probably keep my mouth shut since, for the most part, I seem to be way out of step with the rest of those who've commented on this photo. But, being a fool and having just taken some pain medication, I'm gonna jump right in. I don't like it the way it is. First, there's a shiny spot on the tip of her nose - two actually. IMO, they should be brought down some. Her cheek below her left eye is a bit hot. That, too, might benefit from being toned down somewhat. The photo appears overly sharp and, IMO, could benefit from a little softer look. The sharp detail of her pores does little to enhance or add to what could be a very fine image. The wisps of hair that are over her left eye appear overly sharpened. There seems to be some halos around a few strands. Just curious, Bill, what sharpening technique did you use? Well, there y'have it. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax On 12/9/05, William Robb wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html
Re: PESO: A Cappuccino and the Paper
On 12/9/05, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just came home from work, so I'm far behind on my comments: A simple, and elegantly told story. I like it for that, and for esthetical reasons. Why thank you, Tim. I'm glad you liked it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
I dig the piercing too... However, in this picture, because of the way it reflects light I think it detracts from an otherwise beautiful shot. Christian - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl. On 12/9/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html Technical: IstD, 77mm at f11. This is straight from camera to you, just a black and white conversion a resize amd a bit of sharpening. I don't know why, but nose piercings are so hot. (on women that is - and of course, I'd never stick holes in my body - I'm too old for that even were I interested). Lovely pic, pretty girl. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO- Pirate Bob
On Dec 9, 2005, at 10:40 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: That's why the French invented the perfume industry, everyone and everything smelled bad in that era... In Marseilles they make half the fancy toilet soap we consume in America, but the Marseillaise only have a vague theoretical idea of its use, which they have obtained from books of travel, just as they have acquired an uncertain notion of clean shirts, and the peculiarities of the gorilla, and other curious matters. -- Mark Twain Bob
Re: PESO: No fur, No photos
On Dec 9, 2005, at 10:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Frank. This BW conversion was done by the fast and dirty method. Just a PhotoShop convert to grayscale and then some playing around with curves until I was happy. It is my contention that converting to B W that way works just as well as any of the more complex methods. You just need to understand how to use curves. Bob
Hey, Dave Brooks ...
Dave, I have about four or five email addresses for you. Which is the best address to send a private message? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
Re: Update: The fur fellow's feet
His boots could be made of plastic... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Close examination reveals that the feet of the aforementioned fur fanatic are indeed shod with what appears to be footwear formed from the hides of bovine type creatures. One of the female fur fanatics seems to be frolicing in leather as well. The fur fellow's feet can be found here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3937236 -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
Nice, Bill. I agree with Shel and Paul about it being overly sharp and about highlights. Crucial question: Does she like it, or would she rather not have all the pores so sharp? Joe
Re: PESO- Pirate Bob
Bob Shell wrote: On Dec 9, 2005, at 10:40 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: That's why the French invented the perfume industry, everyone and everything smelled bad in that era... In Marseilles they make half the fancy toilet soap we consume in America, but the Marseillaise only have a vague theoretical idea of its use, which they have obtained from books of travel, just as they have acquired an uncertain notion of clean shirts, and the peculiarities of the gorilla, and other curious matters. -- Mark Twain Bob Twain had a notorious hatred of the French, (but a marvelous poison pen). -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Flower Pics Wanted
I've a small project planned involving flowers, but I'm pretty weak in that area. There have been some nice flower pics posted here - far better than anything I've ever done. Perhaps you flower folks could post a few links to what you consider your best or most interesting flower pics so I can get some ideas about lighting and composition. Thanks for any help. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
Re: PAW: The Word, According to Ninja
frank theriault wrote: I posted another photo of this fellow several months ago. Ninja was one of the most colourful characters that I met at the Cycle Messengers World Championship in New York City last summer. He was a great host, but once he knew the cameras were going, well, he got going too. g http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3930461size=lg Comments are always welcome; indeed they are encouraged. Thanks in advance. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Like your timing on when you snapped - background clutter gets in the way .. could you have shot this wide open to cut the DOF? I don't remember another pic - maybe that is when I was on the road. ann
Re: PESO - On the Cold Side
Tom C wrote: Looking north from our house. This is actually the warm side since it's the south facing slope. Not a masterpiece, but just the way it was Saturday, December 3, 2005 in this place in Idaho. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3931911 I like it :) very evocative of that kind of day and scene - puts me right there I'm buried with chores or would have commented sooner ann
Re: PESO - Skimmers
Christian wrote: I've been preoccupied with trivial things like work and family and still have not gone through all my Cape May images. Here is an adult black skimmer with his buddies: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3935397 I'd appreciate comments on this one. Thanks! Christian (home website is broke-ass so I'm giving photo.net a go) Id like him to be in sharper focus and the fall off to his buddies more pronounced -- couldn't you get him to move? :) :) Bottom line, doesn't work for me - and most of your birdies are spectactular. but I like the idea of it... one sharp bird the the blur of color in the bacground. ann
Re: You want cats,here's cats:-)
On 12/8/05, Dave Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=bookelly4309.jpg Taken last night, but the AF was hunting a smidge,so its a bit soft. istD DA 16-45 Sigma 500 super Boo on the left, Kelly on the right. SO scooops the poops.:-) Love it, Dave. Great shot! -frank the cat guy -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Flower Pics Wanted
http://photography.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?pos=-13 Water lilies shot with the *ist D and 300/4 Sigma in my in-law's garden pond in Tamworth Australia. Christian - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: Flower Pics Wanted I've a small project planned involving flowers, but I'm pretty weak in that area. There have been some nice flower pics posted here - far better than anything I've ever done. Perhaps you flower folks could post a few links to what you consider your best or most interesting flower pics so I can get some ideas about lighting and composition. Thanks for any help. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
Re: PESO: No fur, No photos
frank theriault wrote: On 12/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a distant time and place, when I was a rebellious college student demonstrating against the war, the government, and the status quo, I would have been pleased if someone took my picture. Apparently that's not the case any more, at least not among the animal lover set. The two anti-fur ladies who spotted me quickly ducked behind their signs. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3935563size=lg I think this is an interesting shot, Paul. Nice symmetry with the two signs down and the one in the middle up. Of course, there's the humour of the two holding the signs over their faces, as well. I really like the tonality of this as well. Great job of bw conversion (and this one needs to be bw, for that PJ look g). Neat shot, Paul. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson Paul, this is a bit too static for me... in the best of all possible worlds, a bit of movement blur would have strengthened it. I'm curious about the color original. But as p.j. it's strong, alright who was it that pointed to the leather shoes? Nothing like a little hypocracy, unless these kids don't know leather comes from critters... And the fact that they are not letting their faces be seen is cowardly. It would be nice to think that demos resulted in somewhat kinder treatment of the soon to be deceased animals while they are still alive, but the zeal with which some demonstrators attack that industry is pretty scary, too. ann
Re: Update: The fur fellow's feet
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Close examination reveals that the feet of the aforementioned fur fanatic are indeed shod with what appears to be footwear formed from the hides of bovine type creatures. One of the female fur fanatics seems to be frolicing in leather as well. The fur fellow's feet can be found here: I believe that the statements in the previous photo you showed focused on extraordinarily cruel treatment in order to extract the fur (skinning them alive). Kostas (the shaven facial hair rising at the recollection)
Re: PESO - Skimmers
Thanks Ann, Paul, Bruce, Jack, Wendy, Shel, Godfrey, Peter, Rick, Ken and anyone I may have missed for commenting. bottom line: I tried to isolate the bird with focus and I seem to have failed... One of my goals was to get a skimmer on the beach by itself in a frame-filling shot. Well, the little buggers really like their buddies so I never got close to any single birds. I tried for the sharp bird with out of focus colors behind but I guess the background was just not OOF enough. Thanks again for commenting. It's honest responses like this that help me improve my photography. Christian - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Skimmers Christian wrote: I've been preoccupied with trivial things like work and family and still have not gone through all my Cape May images. Here is an adult black skimmer with his buddies: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3935397 I'd appreciate comments on this one. Thanks! Christian (home website is broke-ass so I'm giving photo.net a go) Id like him to be in sharper focus and the fall off to his buddies more pronounced -- couldn't you get him to move? :) :) Bottom line, doesn't work for me - and most of your birdies are spectactular. but I like the idea of it... one sharp bird the the blur of color in the bacground. ann
PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
Hi gang ... Here's a pic of little April enjoying a Coors. I'm wondering which rendition you prefer, and why. If you've the time and inclination, I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks! http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/april-2up.html Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax
Re: PESO: Tanja
On 12/8/05, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha, I guess you don't remember that cat poop don't stink BG Well then someone's shittin' in the basement and stinking it to high hell, 'cause something down there smells real bad! vbg -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
On 12/9/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang ... Here's a pic of little April enjoying a Coors. I'm wondering which rendition you prefer, and why. If you've the time and inclination, I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks! http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/april-2up.html Call the Children's Aid Society! -frank, whose ex is a social worker with the CAS -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
On 12/9/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Call the Children's Aid Society! -frank, whose ex is a social worker with the CAS forgot the smiley vbg -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Flower Pics Wanted
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've a small project planned involving flowers, but I'm pretty weak in that area. There have been some nice flower pics posted here - far better than anything I've ever done. Perhaps you flower folks could post a few links to what you consider your best or most interesting flower pics so I can get some ideas about lighting and composition. Thanks for any help. I think there have been some on PUG. While I don't think I am better than anything you have done in this area, my explicit contribution would be the following for the reason that it's naturally backlit: http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~kavousan/OrchidSM.jpg I have also found that backgrounds are generally important, and that rain droplets on a nice form make an impact: http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~kavousan/Tulip.JPG YMMV, Kostas
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl. Nice shot. Excellent light. But what's that on her nose? Is it pierced? Hope it's just a spec that you can clone out of the pic. In fact, if it's pierced I'd clone the pin out if I were to put the pic in my portfolio. But as I said, a very nice shot of a pretty girl. It's a piercing. I'm not sure about it, but it's part of how she wants to be seen, so I left it in. Thanks for looking b... http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/portraits/IMGP0146.html
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
- Original Message - From: Derby Chang Subject: Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl. Sorry Paul, I like the piercing. It's discreet, but attracts attention, in a good way (for me at least). Beautiful rendition of the skin too. Have seen too many over-photoshopped robo-babes lately. Thanks Mr Robb. Gee, thanks Derby. Please, call me bill Mr. Robb
Re: No fur, No photos
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: No fur, No photos Markus, governments and activists have sub organizations to do that. I've never heard of a business provoking someone to destroy their lively hood. Occam's razor rules, usually a cigar is just a cigar. Convoluted conspiracy theorys that put the culpability back on the victims fall apart on close examination, but you can believe anything you want, after all it is a belief. Sometimes we don't look as hard at what makes us uncomfortable as perhaps we should. William Robb
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl. I should probably keep my mouth shut since, for the most part, I seem to be way out of step with the rest of those who've commented on this photo. But, being a fool and having just taken some pain medication, I'm gonna jump right in. I don't like it the way it is. First, there's a shiny spot on the tip of her nose - two actually. IMO, they should be brought down some. Her cheek below her left eye is a bit hot. That, too, might benefit from being toned down somewhat. This is stuff I will do in post processing, I have done no more than the minimal amount to put it on the web. The photo appears overly sharp and, IMO, could benefit from a little softer look. The sharp detail of her pores does little to enhance or add to what could be a very fine image. The wisps of hair that are over her left eye appear overly sharpened. There seems to be some halos around a few strands. Just curious, Bill, what sharpening technique did you use? Thats the smart sharpen tool in CS2, 1 pixel, 100%, used after resizing using bicubic sharper. I am thinking that if one uses one, one shouldn't use the other. . Well, there y'have it. I appreciate the input. I'll put some more time into it soon, and let you have another look. William Robb
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
- Original Message - From: keith_w Subject: Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl. It worked just fine! Thanks keith b..
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl. I don't know why, but nose piercings are so hot. (on women that is - and of course, I'd never stick holes in my body - I'm too old for that even were I interested). Lovely pic, pretty girl. Thanks Frank b...
Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl.
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter Subject: Re: Peso: Just another picture of a pretty girl. Nice, Bill. I agree with Shel and Paul about it being overly sharp and about highlights. Crucial question: Does she like it, or would she rather not have all the pores so sharp? Don't know if she likes it or not. I shot the pictures, went home, did a quick scan and processed that one minimally for the web. She'll see them later today. b..
Re: PESO: Tanja
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: PESO: Tanja The world would be a better place if everyone had a dog (as a pet). William Robb === No reasons given? I am sort of wondering why you said that. No reason needed. It's just one of the things I believe to be true. William Robb
Re: PAW PESO - April Drinks a Beer
On 12/9/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang ... Here's a pic of little April enjoying a Coors. I'm wondering which rendition you prefer, and why. If you've the time and inclination, I'd appreciate any comments. Thanks! http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/april-2up.html Oh yeah, I like the one on the left a bit better; I can see her eyes better in it. I think it's a wonderful photo. Those big, dark, expressive eyes are amazing! She's got a real street waif look to her - reminds me of one of Fagan's minions from Oliver Twist (I'm sure she's not like that in real life, but the tousled hair, the beer, the eyes - well, you know). Terrific shot!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Flower Pics Wanted
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've a small project planned involving flowers, but I'm pretty weak in that area. There have been some nice flower pics posted here - far better than anything I've ever done. Perhaps you flower folks could post a few links to what you consider your best or most interesting flower pics so I can get some ideas about lighting and composition. Thanks for any help. Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax here's a couple: http://www.alphoto.com/floral1.jpg http://www.alphoto.com/floral4.jpg http://www.alphoto.com/pages/wettulips.htm
