Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/25/2005 8:39:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why did you choose that particular book?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>   "50 Fast Photoshop CS Techniques" by 
>  Gregory Georges. None has arrived yet.
==
Basically just browsing at Amazon and comparing book ratings. I wanted one 
with tips and tricks. I already have Adobe Photoshop CS One on One by Deke 
McCelland -- which is a lesson plan (with CD) to learn CS. Rated quite high, 
I've 
started the first lesson and it's pretty good -- probably the best each chapter 
is a lesson book. Different books cover different things. Also 50 Fast was 
cheap and rated higher than some other tip books -- many mentioned it had very 
good sample photos -- but cheap was good too. :-)

Marnie aka Doe 



Working over the holiday

2005-12-25 Thread Don Williams
Someone in Sonera must have been on duty 
because the web server (Finnish router I 
suppose) is up again. I was able to ftp 
a few corrections to my site. This is 
something I cannot understand ... how it 
was possible for people in the UK, and 
almost everywhere else to log on, while 
it was not from here? It could not have 
been the server itself obviously but 
must have been a routing failure?


I only got chocolate for Xmas. I've had 
the real present, the *ist D, for a 
couple of months. I save the chocolate 
boxes for storing temporary microscope 
preparations (slides and covers).


Don
--
Dr E D F Williams
___
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
See feature: The Cement Company from Hell
Updated: Print Gallery--   16 11 2005



Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann

Oh I forgot to mention one of my favourite pressies.

A large xmas stocking stuffed with UK junk food from a great little  
shop that opened here a few months ago.  Walker's Sensations.   
Pineapple & Grapefruit Lilt.  Yuuu.


I've also just about OD'd on chocolate.  Somehow a few people got the  
impression that I like the stuff.


- Dave



Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann

On Dec 26, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


lemmy in :)


I know what he's up to... he's creating an aura of exclusivity by  
denying access to everyone.  This just makes us want it more.


Pretty soon he'll charge 5 bucks to email him and we'll happily pay  
it to feel like we're part of "the club".  "Email Mark" tickets will  
sell for thousands on eBay.  Mark will become an instant celebrity  
and will make millions doing product endorsements.  Then he'll buy  
Pentax.


- Dave (hic)



Re: An odd find.

2005-12-25 Thread Patrick Schork
I modified an MX split screen/micro prism to fit the DS. Auto focus
seemed to work flawlessly at all apertures.  However, metering (with M
lenses) was not dependable after f2.8 - the split screen gets
progressively darker with each f-stop and goes totally black at about
f4. Metering in auto-program modes seemed to work fine.  Supposedly
prism only screens meter fine at all apertures.

In the end, the stock DS screen is noticeably brighter and is what I
currently use.

-Patrick

On 12/24/05, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Meter's behind the mirror, it's AF that I wonder about.
>
> Don
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:36 PM
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: An odd find.
>
> >
> > In a message dated 12/24/2005 6:34:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > Some things are just too wierd/cool to resist!
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7573618765
> >
> > Don
> > ===
> > The metering still works right? How can that be?
> >
> > Marnie aka Doe
> >
>
>



Re: An odd find.

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann
Resend... the list rejected it for some reason.  Apologies if you get  
two copies.


On Dec 25, 2005, at 3:33 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:


Some things are just too wierd/cool to resist!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7573618765


Every time I use my Z-1p I wish for a microprism screen.  Plain
screens are the one big thing I hate about AF bodies.

- Dave



Re: OT: Which software for slide shows - for a website?

2005-12-25 Thread Juan Buhler
Jens, since you're a Flickr used, you might be interested in this:

http://www.paulstamatiou.com/2005/11/19/how-to-quickie-embedded-flickr-slideshows/

You can put a flickr slideshow in your own web page.

Cheers,

j

On 12/25/05, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to make slide shows for my homepage.
> I use an obsolete (almost) webeditor - Namo Webeditor 5.
> For starters I made these two tests, using
> 1) Javascript Animator Express: http://www.jensbladt.dk/animate/
> 2) Advanced Effect Maker http://www.jensbladt.dk/Nykoege/presentation1.html
>
> Both of them feeware.
> Is there a better choice, which is simple to use, please?
> Regards
> Jens
>
>
>


--
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
photoblog at http://photoblog.jbuhler.com



Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark -
I wrote you off list with a subject line of
2 out of 3 so far (on the above subject) 

I think you can glean what that means but I did
write more. IT bounced.
went to your [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I got
delivery failure

jsut now I forwarded that to both the mark@ and
the admin@

with this error message
The following message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was undeliverable.
The reason for the problem:
5.1.0 - Unknown address error 553-'207.172.4.61 -
REJECTED: See http://psbl.surriel.com '

in both cases there was html stuff that I didnt
open.

lemmy in :)

ann



Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Excellent news. :-)

Godfrey



Re: PESO: Merry Christmas Morn

2005-12-25 Thread Powell Hargrave
I'm impressed.  You even paint the ceiling for Christmas!

Powell

>
>The obligatory Christmas tree pic:
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3974230&size=lg
>



Re: OT: Which software for slide shows - for a website?

2005-12-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Friend of mine turned me onto http://www.soundslides.com the other  
day. It looks great, but it might be Mac OS X only. $40 license fee.


Godfrey


On Dec 25, 2005, at 1:35 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:


I want to make slide shows for my homepage.
I use an obsolete (almost) webeditor - Namo Webeditor 5.
For starters I made these two tests, using
1) Javascript Animator Express: http://www.jensbladt.dk/animate/
2) Advanced Effect Maker http://www.jensbladt.dk/Nykoege/ 
presentation1.html


Both of them feeware.
Is there a better choice, which is simple to use, please?
Regards
Jens






Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann

On Dec 26, 2005, at 7:24 AM, Cotty wrote:


Biggest ones:

Stefan: Canon printer!
Me: Boxed sets of Voyager DVDs :-)
Alma: Pentax *ist Ds


Now you're going to have to find another A* 85mm lens!

- Dave




Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann

Nothing a bit of sandpaper wouldn't fix...

- Dave

On Dec 26, 2005, at 7:41 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:


The D uses compact flash, it's a PITA until the card
wears a little.
Now I can hit the button and catch it as it flys out! ;-)




Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann

Fantastic news.  I might drink some of my xmas sambuca.

At the same time I might drown my sorrows.  I think I found the early  
stages of fungus in a couple of my lenses.  I am not happy.


- Dave

On Dec 26, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com






Re: It arrived! (SMC Pentax-FA 28mm f/2.8 AL)

2005-12-25 Thread Cesar

David,

I own the F version and I understand your getting rid of it.  I have not 
used it in quite a while.  This all stems from a print I had made from a 
slide and once the lab confirmed that their equipment was in proper 
working order I realized that the image was soft, as in not as sharp as 
I was used to from my other lenses.


My 28mm needs are met with both K-mount and screw-mount; though I do not 
usually shoot this focal length since I usually shoot my 31 and 24.  I 
do usually shoot the M42 28mm when added to my lens selection when out 
and about due to its size.


Sitting here admiring my '83 Bianchi that is back in working order,

César

David Oswald wrote:

I've resisted buying this lens for some time.  My ability to fight off 
lens lust on the FA28 can be attributed to the following thoughts:

  *  On 35mm Film: I prefer 24mm as a general purpose wide angle.
  *  On digital: 28 isn't wide, but it's not quite standard either.
 What is it?
  *  f/2.8 isn't fast for a nearly standard (for digital) prime.  It
 should be f/2.

But then opportunity conspired with funds and weak resistance, and the 
next thing I knew I bought one on eBay.  It arrived yesterday, and I 
have to admit I'm really pleased with the new enablement.  I've 
already put it through its paces.


I find that on my *ist-DS, 28mm IS a useful focal length.  The more I 
think about it, the more I realize that I always felt 50mm (on film) 
to be a little too 'tight' for a standard lens.  The 28mm focal length 
on digital feels just a little less confined, and turns out to be 
quite a comfortable focal length to 'set and forget'.


f/2.8 is fast enough under most conditions, especially on digital 
where ISO800 is usable.


I once owned the 'F' version of this lens but didn't much care for it. 
That was back in my film days, and as I mentioned earlier, I didn't 
find the focal length all that useful to me, plus it didn't seem all 
that sharp.  Now with the FA, in my limited use, I find the FA to be 
sharper and to offer smoother bokeh.  I like that.


For someone looking for a fairly inexpensive but good quality standard 
lens for their digital SLR, I think the FA28 should definitely be in 
the running.  Yes, the FA35 is faster, and offers a field of view (on 
digital) closer to what people consider 'standard'.  But the 28 offers 
a little broader field of view which can be quite nice too.  And it's 
often available at just over half the cost of the 35 f/2. 





Re: Epson papers

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann

On Dec 26, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

That's not the case on my Mac with the latest 2200 drivers. Once  
the computer has recognized the new cartridge, it will continue to  
recognize whether it's turned off or not. However, I don't turn my  
printer off. I see no reason to do so.


Thanks for the info.  I might buy a matte cartridge and try it out.   
Bear in mind that us 2100 users get a different driver package so if  
the 2200 driver has been updated it doesn't necessarily meant that  
those updates made it to our model :(


I might try downloading a 2200 driver as Godfrey suggested and seeing  
what happens.


BTW I do switch my printer off when it's not in use.  I only use it  
about once a week at the moment.


- Dave



Re: what would you do?

2005-12-25 Thread David Mann

On Dec 26, 2005, at 2:49 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


I don't care for the way the ASA and exposure compensation is set.


I thought you'd mention that as it is the one really weird thing  
about that body :)  FWIW I rarely change ASA and never use  
compensation so it doesn't bother me.  The way it's built contains a  
few gotchas for new users - eg the ASA dial can't be changed unless  
the exposure compensation is set to zero.



And, iirc, the camera won't work
without batteries as it uses an electronically controlled shutter.


Without batteries you do get 1/125, 1/1000 and B but that's it.  Not  
totally useless but not totally useful either.


in order to use the meter, the film advance lever has to be moved  
out from

the camera or  the shutter button has to be held half way down.  The
advance lever often hits me in the eye, and being required to hold the
shutter release down makes it difficult (for me) to adjust the shutter
speed or aperture at the same time.


Something else that hasn't bothered me but I work a lot differently  
to the way you probably do.  I might add that my first SLR was a K2  
so I became accustomed to working with its quirks :)



Plus,
while not overly so, it is heavier than the other K bodies.  I should
mention that I've only used the K2 DMD, not the regular K2, but I'm  
pretty

sure the annoyances mentioned are the same for both cameras.


Yes, the regular K2 has the exact same behaviours.  The weight is  
fine for me but I'm simply used to carrying it.  The LX feels like a  
featherweight in comparison.  IIRC the K2 is the heaviest K-mount  
body that Pentax produced.


I agree with you about the LX meter readout and what I consider  
excessive
information in the viewfinder.  I prefer using the older cameras  
more using
the LX as well, although the LX has certainly come in handy quite a  
few

times.


I absolutely love using the LX.  It feels very smooth and quick in  
its operation and never feels like it's in the way.  Until you start  
wondering whether you need f/8 or f/9.5.


- Dave




Re: Lens Hoods

2005-12-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No lens hood, no matter how deep or well designed, will protect  "the front
element of the lens from direct light rays."  That doesn't mean that a
bright light, directly in front of the lens, will cause acute flare and
image degradation.  I've seen a few Pentax and Zeiss T* lenses that
controlled flare in that circumstance very well, although "controlled
flare" does not mean the absence of flare.

A longer hood will protect against flare from a narrower angle than a short
hood.  Over the years I've made numerous tests using various lenses with
different length and diameter hoods and a bright light.  In all instances a
longer hood reduced the angle at which point flare became a concern or the
bright light entered the frame and degraded the image, either through flare
or by upsetting composition.

Unless a photographer is willing to invest the time to do such tests, and
invest the $$ for a wide variety of lens hoods, it's probably best to use
the deepest hood possible.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Mark Roberts 

> Mike Johnston wrote a good SMP column about flare, lens hoods, etc.]
>
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-01-12.shtml
>
> "By the way, a common misconception about lenses is that you need the
> longest possible hood to protect the lens. This isn't necessarily so.
> With some lenses, acutely-impinging light is the biggest cause of flare,
> more so than more directly impinging light. A short lens hood which
> protects the lens from this glancing sidelight will serve well to reduce
> flare, even though it's relatively useless at protecting the front
> element of the lens from direct light rays."




Re: question about today's thrift shop find

2005-12-25 Thread Cesar

Collin,

According to Gerjan van Oosten's book 'The Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw 
Mount Guide', copyright November 1999.  This is the normal configuration 
for this lens which was only supplied with the SP 1000.


I have the Super-Takumar version of this lens.  I cannot say that I have 
used it much, I always use my 55/1.8.


I am sure you have gotten responses by now - I am just now catching up,

César
Panama City, Florida

Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:


I picked up a lens today.
But it doesn't look totally authentic.
at least I'm not certain about that focus grip.
But you tell me.
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/IMGP1491.JPG
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/IMGP1492.JPG
Worst case it was only $3.

Collin 





Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!


I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!


Terrific!

Excellent news!

Boris



Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why did you choose that particular book?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>   "50 Fast Photoshop CS Techniques" by 
>  Gregory Georges. None has arrived yet.




Re: An odd find.

2005-12-25 Thread Powell Hargrave
I was tempted to give that a try.
Let us know how it works.

Powell


>Some things are just too wierd/cool to resist!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7573618765
>
>Don
>



Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Gautam Sarup
Good news in good times.  Great!

Cheers,
Gautam



30 years of the K1000.

2005-12-25 Thread Cesar

Did anyone notice this on the Pentax site?

Aptly named THE NEW CLASSIC, the microsite touches on the solid PENTAX 
legacy and devotion to SLR users.  Since its first SLR introduction in 
1952, PENTAX has remained devoted to delivering the most lightweight and 
compact SLR products including the PENTAX K1000, one of the most popular 
35mm SLRs ever manufactured.  PENTAX Imaging Company will acknowledge 
the 30th anniversary of the PENTAX K1000 in 2006.


Copied from this link - 
http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=7216938


Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how Pentax will 'acknowledge' the 
30th anniversary of the K100?


Info garnered from the Spotmatic list,

César
Panama City, Florida



OT: Which software for slide shows - for a website?

2005-12-25 Thread Jens Bladt
I want to make slide shows for my homepage.
I use an obsolete (almost) webeditor - Namo Webeditor 5.
For starters I made these two tests, using
1) Javascript Animator Express: http://www.jensbladt.dk/animate/
2) Advanced Effect Maker http://www.jensbladt.dk/Nykoege/presentation1.html

Both of them feeware.
Is there a better choice, which is simple to use, please?
Regards
Jens 




Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I called him and got the answering machine, so I left a message. Hope 
he's back on the list soon!

Paul
On Dec 25, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bill's still in the hospital at Duke, from which he called me. He
sounded in good spirits. You can reach him at 704-860-7451, his cell
phone I think.


Hmm, that was supposed to be a private email - too much Christmas
"spirit" I suppose. Don't everyone call him at once.


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com





OT: Which software for slide shows - for a website?

2005-12-25 Thread Jens Bladt
I want to make slide shows for my homepage.
I use an obsolete (almost) webeditor - Namo Webeditor 5.
For starters I made these two tests, using
1) Javascript Animator Express: http://www.jensbladt.dk/animate/
2) Advanced Effect Maker http://www.jensbladt.dk/Nykoege/presentation1.html

Both of them feeware.
Is there a better choice, which is simple to use, please?
Regards
Jens 




Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Bill's still in the hospital at Duke, from which he called me. He
>sounded in good spirits. You can reach him at 704-860-7451, his cell
>phone I think.

Hmm, that was supposed to be a private email - too much Christmas
"spirit" I suppose. Don't everyone call him at once.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Amita Guha
On 12/25/05, Paul Ewins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well after three years of buying each other power tools,

LOL, Paul, I bought my husband a new rechargeable screwdriver. :) I
also gave him the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8.

Nate got me the D-FA 50mm macro, which seems to be a very nice lens! I
will post samples from it shortly.

> The biggest winner was the cat, who got a 300 sq foot cat run to play in.

Nice! Our new cats got a couple of new toys to chase around, and they
seem pretty happy with them. We got them Da Bird, and we're hoping to
exhaust them enough that the let us sleep a full night tonight. :)

Nate recently enabled himsel with the Optio S5i, so he's now an
official Pentaxian!

BTW, when I went to B&H for Nate's lens on Friday, the salesman told
me that they had two black 31mm Ltds. in stock, in case anyone was
looking.

Amita



Re: Vic MacBournie

2005-12-25 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 04:39:46PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:
> John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 09:16:31AM +, Cotty wrote:
> >> On 24/12/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >> 
> >> >BTW: My *Christmas Spirit" is Glenfiddich. Dr. Lisa bought me a bottle
> >> >:)
> >> 
> >> Never was a whisky bod, though that might change in the future of
> >> course. Southern Comfort :-)
> >
> >Southern Comfort is a nice enough drink (especially the 100 proof),
> >but it isn't really the same sort of thing as a good Scotch.
> >
> >We actually added a new scotch to the collection - the Glenmorangie
> >Burgundy Wood Aged.  It's quite interesting - it tastes far more like
> >a peaty scotch (such as an Islay) than the rest of the Glenmorangie
> >range, which are fairly typical light scotches (somewhat similar to
> >a Glenlivet, which I believe is distilled in the next valley).
> >(I believe that's seven different Glenmorangies that we now own).
> 
> Mm, Glenmorangie!

You'd enjoy the pride of our liquor cabinet - the 1970 single vintage
bottling.  We bought it for ourselves as a house-warming present ten
years ago; we reckoned that about the only time we wouldn't notice the
cost of that bottle was just after we'd committed to pay some $260,000
for a house.  (Of course, ten years later, that looks like a bargain;
house prices in the area have more than trebled since then).

Apart from that, we've also got the regular 10-year-old Glenmorangie,
the 18-year-old, and the Port, Sherry & Madeira cask aged varieties.
We don't, at present, have the 15-year-old - I wasn't even aware of
it's existence until I read the little leaflet that came with the
latest bottle.

(and around 20 other single malts, as well; over they years we've
amassed quite a collection.  Nowadays we don't buy more; we're just
drinking our way through what we've got)



RE: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
Answers below.

Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
---

Haven't got time to answer this properly now (I'm off to work tomorrow). I
hope these quick lines make sense. 

Generally I use the histogram and the blinking less frequent than what I
used to before (when I was new to my *istDS). I feel I have a lot more
control now. 

> 1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?
> 
Yes, but not fully. A histogram with barely visible indication from left to
right, makes me confused. 

> 2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When? Under
> what
> situations?
>
When shooting a sequence of shots I tend to have look after the first
picture. If things seem ok, I continue without having a second look. 

 
> 3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?
>
I usually have them on. If something looks odd, I usually check the
histogram.

> 4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the
> other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?
>
I use both when shooting with stage light, and other "contrasty" motifs.
When I feel I have control, I still tend to have a brief look at them both. 
 
> -





Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Mark Roberts
"William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>From: "Mark Roberts" 
>
>>I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
>> But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
>> metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
>> unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
>> plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
>> Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
>> trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
>> As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!
>
>I'm already drinking to that. This is very good news indeed.

Bill's still in the hospital at Duke, from which he called me. He
sounded in good spirits. You can reach him at 704-860-7451, his cell
phone I think.
 
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 12/25/05, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Cotty wrote:
> >
> >5. Put some AAs in and in no time it was flashing 'battery depleted' at
> >me. Measured 1.47 volts across all. Harumph. Put some fresh one's in and
> >seems okay.
> >
> >
> Use NiHMs or Lithiums.  Alkalines are a waste.
>

After ~450 pictures and a lot of playing (I've also used the USB cable
to load the pictures to my PC), the CR-V3 (supplied with the camera)
finally died. No warning, I've left the camera in it's bag for 2-3
days, battery status showing full; when I took it out it showed
'empty'. So I 've made myself a Christmas present (as Santa was too
busy promoting Coca-Cola): 2 RCR-V3 with a charger. 3V and 1100mAh,
btw.
I can't say more for now, just that they seems to work OK - no
difference from the CR-V3 batteries. I can't even recommend the brand,
the manufacturer didn't bothered to put it's name on them.

--
Best regards,
Alex Sarbu



Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/25/2005 4:39:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wasn't necessarily referring to myself.  

Shel 
==
Really dug myself into a hole on that one, didn't I?

Okay, hope people keep on answering.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
Oh, okay, I didn't list presents.

Bought myself a visible dust brush and two Photoshop books:  "Photoshop 
Masking and Compositing" by Katrin Eismann and "50 Fast Photoshop CS 
Techniques" by 
 Gregory Georges. None has arrived yet.

I decided I didn't need any more lenses until maybe June 2006 or so. (I 
already bought two in the last 4-5 months, one rather expensive). And I really 
don't need another Epson printer, one that can print 11x14, I can get along 
fine 
with mine that prints 8X10...

No, I really don't need any more lenses. No, I really don't need another 
printer. No more lenses, not another printer, no more lenses, not another 
printer, 
no more lenses...

Marnie aka Doe  Sometimes I feel I am just whistling in the wind. :-)



Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/12/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
>But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
>metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
>unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
>plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
>Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
>trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
>As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!

I raise my glass, here's to you Bill.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Stenquist

You go, ginger!

On Dec 25, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


That's great!

Shel
" ... "



[Original Message]
From: Paul Ewins


The biggest winner was the cat, who got a 300 sq foot cat run to play 
in.
He's a big old ginger (ex) tom who tends to get in fights and he's 
been

stuck inside for the last three months to territorial disputes.







Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I wasn't necessarily referring to myself.  

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Of course, some old farts don't need to check to see if their exposures
are
> correct.
> ===
> True. 
>
> Of course, Shel, you are better at exposure than most people anyway.




RE: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's great!

Shel 
" ... " 


> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Ewins 

> The biggest winner was the cat, who got a 300 sq foot cat run to play in.
> He's a big old ginger (ex) tom who tends to get in fights and he's been
> stuck inside for the last three months to territorial disputes. 




Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
They can be in the istDS and more than likely the DS2 and the DL as well.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: William Robb 

> > 4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the
> > other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?
>
> I suspect the blinkies would be useful, providing it could be turned off.
I 
> think I have that as an option on my Optio 750. I should investigate this.




Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
Alright!!!

Had to be all those cards from PDMLers, huh?

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
My wife and I opted for a special present to ourselves. We updated our 
home theater. We already had a nice surround sound system with Polk 
speakers in all five spots, a Pioneer Elite surround sound receiver,  
and a nice Velodyne subwoofer. Our television was a Mitsubish rear 
projection unit, but it died. So for Christmas, we replaced it with a 
Pioneer 61 inch flat panel plasma. I mounted it on the wall and routed 
all the wires through the wall. Looks great. I upgraded our satellite 
service to HD. Direct TV installed the new satellite antenna that pulls 
in signals from four satellites and hooked up the mpeg4 receiver. The 
high definition picture is awesome. REALLY AWESOME!! I'm watching my 
Bears beat the packers now. It comes in with surround sound audio 
(crowd noise behind you) and a picture that is pretty incredible, even 
to a photo guy. Good buy.

Paul
On Dec 25, 2005, at 6:55 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:


Well after three years of buying each other power tools, this year my
girlfriend and I bought kitchen appliances. She got a bread maker and 
I got

a brand new Sunbeam MixMaster. It looks a lot like the 40 year old one
lurking in one of the cupboards except it is bright red and it doesn't 
drip

oil into the mixing bowl when it has warmed up.

The biggest winner was the cat, who got a 300 sq foot cat run to play 
in.

He's a big old ginger (ex) tom who tends to get in fights and he's been
stuck inside for the last three months to territorial disputes. The 
last few
weekends have involved much drilling, cutting and welding and numerous 
cuts

from the galvanized mesh. He seems very happy with it.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia






RE: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Ewins
Well after three years of buying each other power tools, this year my
girlfriend and I bought kitchen appliances. She got a bread maker and I got
a brand new Sunbeam MixMaster. It looks a lot like the 40 year old one
lurking in one of the cupboards except it is bright red and it doesn't drip
oil into the mixing bowl when it has warmed up.

The biggest winner was the cat, who got a 300 sq foot cat run to play in.
He's a big old ginger (ex) tom who tends to get in fights and he's been
stuck inside for the last three months to territorial disputes. The last few
weekends have involved much drilling, cutting and welding and numerous cuts
from the galvanized mesh. He seems very happy with it.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia




RE: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Joseph Tainter

Oh, wonderful news.

Thanks, Mark.The day is even brighter.

Joe



Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Subject: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?
> 
> >
> > So, are you taking full advantage of digital?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >
> > 1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?
> 
> Yes.
> >
> > 2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When? Under
> > what
> > situations?
> 
> Yes. In the studio, I use the histogram in place of a flash meter. I feel it
> more accurate.
> I also check the histogram whenever I am outside my camera's ability to give
> me an accurate exposure.
> 
> >
> > 3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?
> 
> Don't get them on the istD.
> >
> > 4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the
> > other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?
> 
> I suspect the blinkies would be useful, providing it could be turned off. I
> think I have that as an option on my Optio 750. I should investigate this.
> >
> 
> William Robb

Although I didn't know what this feature was
called, it is there on
my darkside PRO-1 and is, I think, rather
useful...

I dont' think I can turn them off on my camera.

ann



Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
> But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
> metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
> unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
> plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
> Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
> trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
> As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!
> 
> 
> --
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com

woo woo! that is SOOO wonderful!  

absolutely super news, Mark... hurray!!!

ann



Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Subject: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?





So, are you taking full advantage of digital?


Yes.



1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?


Yes.


2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When? Under 
what

situations?


Yes. In the studio, I use the histogram in place of a flash meter. I feel it 
more accurate.
I also check the histogram whenever I am outside my camera's ability to give 
me an accurate exposure.




3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?


Don't get them on the istD.


4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the
other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?


I suspect the blinkies would be useful, providing it could be turned off. I 
think I have that as an option on my Optio 750. I should investigate this.




William Robb 





Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 
Subject: Best Christmas present ever!




I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!


I'm already drinking to that. This is very good news indeed.

William Robb



Re: Epson Papers II (for us poor folk without a 2400 or 4800 printer)

2005-12-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From:
Subject: Re: Epson Papers II (for us poor folk without a 2400 or 4800 
printer)





it may be impossible to make the monitor and prints
match, so just go for both looking good. Although I suppose with high, 
high priced
and/or high, high end stuff it might be possible. But otherwise go with 
what

works. I feel WR knows, too.


I'm working with pretty high end equipment at work, and I am speaking more 
from my experience with monitor/printer balancing in a photo lab 
environment.

I can't see how it would differ much in a home based printing environment.

William Robb





Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" 
Subject: Presents




Being the Santa in the family..

Epson Stylus Pro 4800
DeWalt 12" Double Bevel Sliding Compound Mitre Saw with 16' saw stand
A85m f/1.4
A big tool cabinet.

I spoil myself.

William Robb



Re: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Stenquist

Excellent!! Let's all drink to that. You the man, Bill!
Paul

On Dec 25, 2005, at 4:37 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!


--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com





RE: Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
Tis' the season to be jolly. And how!
Wonderful news.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 3:37 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Best Christmas present ever!
> 
> 
> I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
> But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
> metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
> unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
> plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
> Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
> trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
> As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!
>  
>  
> -- 
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
> 



RE: eekBay strikes again!

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
That's what I was thinking, why bother with a CLA
when I can stop 1/2 way thru and just sell the
pieces? ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 3:33 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: eekBay strikes again!
> 
> 
> Guess I should be putting my oldies up for parts
> on ebay instead of my scrabble tiles.  wow.
> ann
> 
> 
> "P. J. Alling" wrote:
> > 
> > Holy s*** Batman...
> > 
> > Don Sanderson wrote:
> > 
> > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7573870536
> > >
> > >I've bought whole, mint, MX's for that!
> > >
> > >Don
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > When you're worried or in doubt,
> > Run in circles, (scream and shout).
> 



RE: going from Fx-50 focussing screen to a Fx-40 screen

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
I have an SF1 screen in my PZ1p and have noticed
less than 1/2 stop difference.
I just don't worry about it.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 3:19 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: going from Fx-50 focussing screen to a Fx-40 screen
> 
> 
> The screen of My Z1 isn't as nice as it used to be.
> Now, I have an SFXn lying around, I'd be happy to exchange them.
> Any idea about the EV difference between those two, so I can 
> correct exposure?
> 
> --
> --
> Thibouille
> --
> *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
> 



Re: Vic MacBournie

2005-12-25 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 09:16:31AM +, Cotty wrote:
>> On 24/12/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>> >BTW: My *Christmas Spirit" is Glenfiddich. Dr. Lisa bought me a bottle
>> >:)
>> 
>> Never was a whisky bod, though that might change in the future of
>> course. Southern Comfort :-)
>
>Southern Comfort is a nice enough drink (especially the 100 proof),
>but it isn't really the same sort of thing as a good Scotch.
>
>We actually added a new scotch to the collection - the Glenmorangie
>Burgundy Wood Aged.  It's quite interesting - it tastes far more like
>a peaty scotch (such as an Islay) than the rest of the Glenmorangie
>range, which are fairly typical light scotches (somewhat similar to
>a Glenlivet, which I believe is distilled in the next valley).
>(I believe that's seven different Glenmorangies that we now own).

Mm, Glenmorangie!
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Best Christmas present ever!

2005-12-25 Thread Mark Roberts
I just got a phone call from Bill Owens!
But here's the best part: He's got a bone *infection*, not bone
metastases from cancer! Dr. Lisa just told me the unpronounceable,
unrememberable (to me), polysyllabic name for it and said it sounds
plausible, painful... and infinitely better than cancer :)
Bill got some new photographic toys for Xmas and is looking forward to
trying them out on Grandfather Mountain. I'll drink to that.
As a matter of fact, I think I'll go drink to that now!
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
As most of you know I've had my fill of 28-70/4's,
so I won't even talk about that one.
I have a DA50-200 and have no intention of parting
with it. For it's tiny size and weight it does a
marvelous job. And as Paul mentions the DA focus
clutch is a great idea, all lenses should have it.
It DID surprise me how sharp, and amazingly
contrasty, the 24-90 is.
I am, as of a few months ago, a _firm_ believer in
'sample variation'. I've seen it up close and
personal several times lately.
It's very possible that _my_ DA and 24-90 are on
the low and high end, respectively, of the
allowable QC tolerance.
At this point, speaking technically, all I can
say is: The FA24-90 rocks!! ;-)

Don


> -Original Message-
> From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 2:40 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.
> 
> 
> Don Sanderson wrote:
> > Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
> > Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
> > And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.
> 
> It's not surprising to me... So, what's the surprise?  I was very 
> un-impressed with the 28-70/4 I had and I just assumes the 50-200 was a 
> "consumer grade" lens.  I "thought" the 24-90 was supposed to be a good 
> lens...
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Christian
> http://photography.skofteland.net
> 



Re: eekBay strikes again!

2005-12-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Guess I should be putting my oldies up for parts
on ebay instead of my scrabble tiles.  wow.
ann


"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> Holy s*** Batman...
> 
> Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7573870536
> >
> >I've bought whole, mint, MX's for that!
> >
> >Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> When you're worried or in doubt,
> Run in circles, (scream and shout).



going from Fx-50 focussing screen to a Fx-40 screen

2005-12-25 Thread Thibouille
The screen of My Z1 isn't as nice as it used to be.
Now, I have an SFXn lying around, I'd be happy to exchange them.
Any idea about the EV difference between those two, so I can correct exposure?

--
--
Thibouille
--
*ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...



Re: eekBay strikes again!

2005-12-25 Thread P. J. Alling

Holy s*** Batman...

Don Sanderson wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7573870536

I've bought whole, mint, MX's for that!

Don


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I use the DA 50-200, and it's earned me quite a few dollars. It may not 
be the sharpest tool in the shed wide open, but it has great flare 
resistance, and it's fabulous at f8 or so. But it's greatest virtues 
may well be its compact size and it's focusing clutch that allows 
manual correction.

Paul
On Dec 25, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Christian wrote:


Don Sanderson wrote:

Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.


It's not surprising to me... So, what's the surprise?  I was very 
un-impressed with the 28-70/4 I had and I just assumes the 50-200 was 
a "consumer grade" lens.  I "thought" the 24-90 was supposed to be a 
good lens...



--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net





Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread P. J. Alling



Cotty wrote:


Biggest ones:

Stefan: Canon printer!
Me: Boxed sets of Voyager DVDs :-)
Alma: Pentax *ist Ds

Har, I been playing with this cute lil thing (the camera, not my wife).

1. Rocker switch affair on the back - it works fine, just need the knack.
2. Nice body build, feels solid enough. (my wife, as well as the camera)
3. Menu hierarchy seems okay, can't figure out how to change ISO but
what the hell, will read the manual eventually.
 



To change the ISO press the FN button to bring up the function menu...
(I had a bitch of a time getting used to that after the D).


4. Eyepiece rubber is flimsy and pretty useless.
5. Put some AAs in and in no time it was flashing 'battery depleted' at
me. Measured 1.47 volts across all. Harumph. Put some fresh one's in and
seems okay.
 


Use NiHMs or Lithiums.  Alkalines are a waste.


6. Tried some old manual lenses on, icluding Tokina 17 3.5 and worked
okay - after I took it out of AF- S mode and left it in continuous. I
don't believe in single anything. No green buttons, it just works.
(Already upped the firmware to 2.0)
7. It's so slw compared to the 1D but hey, no surprise. Fast enough
for her ladyship. She loves the pop-up flash.
8. The SD card is easy to get at - same or different to the D?
 

The D uses a CF card, and likes to hold on to it.  The Ds will launch 
the SD card across the room. (A new very PDML Olympic event, maybe?)



9. So light, the whole camera weighs about the same as the 1D's battery
alone. 
10. Overall, a nice little thing.


Looks like the MX will take a back seat for a while. We have a dodgy old
FA 35-70 macro that can do duty as a jack-of-all-trades lens for now.
Worryingly, she asked me what the next PUG theme was ! 





Cheers,
 Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_



 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread P. J. Alling

As if I really needed a reason to not get the DA50-200mm.
I've never done an actual test but the FA28-200mm is more than
adequate on a *ist-D, (it doesn't always show since I often take
shots in marginal conditions).

Don Sanderson wrote:


Here are three of my "best" lenses pitted
against each other.
FA28-70, DA50-200 and FA24-90.
The 24-90 is from a wonderful list member
who got it replaced after a brief dunk in
water. 6 hours later I had it cleaned and
on the D and _I Love It!_
Dear wonderful list member, (you know who
you are) *** Thanks! ***

All at ~70mm, wide open (4, 4.5, 4.5) at a
bit over 1 meter from the USAF test target.
100%, cropped and white point set.
Saved for web so give each one a few lpmm
handicap. ;-)
Repeated several times to be sure the results
were correct.
A bit of a surprise to me.

http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Compare.htm

Don


 




--
When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread Christian

Don Sanderson wrote:

Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.


It's not surprising to me... So, what's the surprise?  I was very 
un-impressed with the 28-70/4 I had and I just assumes the 50-200 was a 
"consumer grade" lens.  I "thought" the 24-90 was supposed to be a good 
lens...



--

Christian
http://photography.skofteland.net



Re: PresenOfts

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course you'll be exchanging that Cubs tie for a White Sox version 
:-)).

Paul
On Dec 25, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Collin R Brendemuehl wrote:


Now don't envy me too much, but I got ...

1.  Chicago Cubs necktie
2.  Books, Kant
2.1 Critique of Pure Reason
2.2 Critique of Practical Reason

Exciting, I know.

Collin

At 01:37 PM 12/25/2005, you wrote:

Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:24:50 +
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" 
Subject: Presents
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Biggest ones:

Stefan: Canon printer!
Me: Boxed sets of Voyager DVDs
Alma: Pentax *ist Ds

Har, I been playing with this cute lil thing (the camera, not my 
wife).


1. Rocker switch affair on the back - it works fine, just need the 
knack.
2. Nice body build, feels solid enough. (my wife, as well as the 
camera)

3. Menu hierarchy seems okay, can't figure out how to change ISO but
what the hell, will read the manual eventually.
4. Eyepiece rubber is flimsy and pretty useless.
5. Put some AAs in and in no time it was flashing 'battery depleted' 
at
me. Measured 1.47 volts across all. Harumph. Put some fresh one's in 
and

seems okay.
6. Tried some old manual lenses on, icluding Tokina 17 3.5 and worked
okay - after I took it out of AF- S mode and left it in continuous. I
don't believe in single anything. No green buttons, it just works.
(Already upped the firmware to 2.0)
7. It's so slw compared to the 1D but hey, no surprise. Fast 
enough

for her ladyship. She loves the pop-up flash.
8. The SD card is easy to get at - same or different to the D?
9. So light, the whole camera weighs about the same as the 1D's 
battery

alone.
10. Overall, a nice little thing.

Looks like the MX will take a back seat for a while. We have a dodgy 
old

FA 35-70 macro that can do duty as a jack-of-all-trades lens for now.
Worryingly, she asked me what the next PUG theme was !



Cheers,
  Cotty









Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-12-25 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

I very much enjoy 4x5 with APX-100.
A great film.  Really a nicer curve than
many others.

Collin





RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
Thanks Godfrey, I was just being lazy. ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 1:13 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Re: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.
>
>
> Don,
>
> If you use a table, the pictures and labels will format correctly
> regardless of what screen size they're displayed on. Replace the text
> in Compare.html for a better display:
>
> =
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> quickie resolution test
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>   
>src="http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/DA50_200.jpg";
> width="326" height="549">
>   http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/FA28_70.jpg";
> width="320" height="544">
>   http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/FA24_90.jpg";
> width="324" height="547">
>   
>   
>   
>   DA 50-200/4-5.6
>   
>   
>   FA28-70/4 AL
>   
>   
>   FA24-90/3.5-4.5
>   
>   
> 
>
> 
> 
>
> =
> Godfrey
>
> On Dec 25, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
> > Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
> > And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:44 AM
> >> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >> Subject: RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.
> >>
> >>
> >> Don.
> >>
> >> I see two targets on the top of my screen and one at the bottom left.
> >> Are they in order of the lenses you mention below.
> >>
> >> If so, the 24-90(bottom) looks the best to me.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
>  Don Sanderson wrote:
> > Here are three of my "best" lenses pitted
> > against each other.
> > FA28-70, DA50-200 and FA24-90.
> > The 24-90 is from a wonderful list member
> > who got it replaced after a brief dunk in
> > water. 6 hours later I had it cleaned and
> > on the D and _I Love It!_
> > Dear wonderful list member, (you know who
> > you are) *** Thanks! ***
> >>
> > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Compare.htm
> >
> > Don
> 
> >>
> >>
> >
>



Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread David Oswald

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So, are you taking full advantage of digital? 


1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?


Yes.  I find it very helpful in determining the quality of my exposure. 
 I wish, however, that there were a setting for mid-tones on DSLR's.  I 
often find that an exposure lacking burned highlights and/or loss of 
shadow detail can lead to an exposure where the mid-tones are off 
(usually underexposed).  It seems that the algorithm that interprets the 
data from the *ist-DS sensor is maybe a little too linear, when it 
should use a curve that boosts mid-tones a bit.  ...just an opinion. 
Anyway, I find the histogram an important part of getting an exposure 
that can be workable.


2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When? Under what 
situations?


I have my *ist-DS set to show the histogram after each shot.  I glance 
at it after most shots, and tinker with EV settings and re-shoot if I'm 
dissatisfied with the histogram.



3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?


Yes, I do.  They enable me to decide whether the area of burned out 
highlights is in a significant cluster, or if it's scattered a little 
here and a little there.  A cluster might really be noticeable.  A 
little here and a little there might be annoying at worst, or 
unnoticeable at best.


4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the 
other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?


Definitely the histogram is more important to me.  It tells me more at a 
glance; where the approximate mid-tone is going to fall, whether I've 
burned highlights or dropped shadow detail, and if my shot is too 
contrasty, or not constrasty enough.  If you've got a peak at the left 
and the right, you might need a little fill flash, for example.  Or 
maybe that's what you want/expect in a particular shot.  If you have a 
big peak at the right, and then a little peak 3/4ths of the way to the 
left, you might have something in the frame that's throwing off the 
metering such as a bright sky.  Those sorts of things all help.





Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl


But what I really wanted was that Celtic Woman DVD set. :)

Collin



Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl

Now don't envy me too much, but I got ...

1.  Chicago Cubs necktie
2.  Books, Kant
2.1 Critique of Pure Reason
2.2 Critique of Practical Reason

Exciting, I know.

Collin

At 01:37 PM 12/25/2005, you wrote:

Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 18:24:50 +
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" 
Subject: Presents
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Biggest ones:

Stefan: Canon printer!
Me: Boxed sets of Voyager DVDs
Alma: Pentax *ist Ds

Har, I been playing with this cute lil thing (the camera, not my wife).

1. Rocker switch affair on the back - it works fine, just need the knack.
2. Nice body build, feels solid enough. (my wife, as well as the camera)
3. Menu hierarchy seems okay, can't figure out how to change ISO but
what the hell, will read the manual eventually.
4. Eyepiece rubber is flimsy and pretty useless.
5. Put some AAs in and in no time it was flashing 'battery depleted' at
me. Measured 1.47 volts across all. Harumph. Put some fresh one's in and
seems okay.
6. Tried some old manual lenses on, icluding Tokina 17 3.5 and worked
okay - after I took it out of AF- S mode and left it in continuous. I
don't believe in single anything. No green buttons, it just works.
(Already upped the firmware to 2.0)
7. It's so slw compared to the 1D but hey, no surprise. Fast enough
for her ladyship. She loves the pop-up flash.
8. The SD card is easy to get at - same or different to the D?
9. So light, the whole camera weighs about the same as the 1D's battery
alone.
10. Overall, a nice little thing.

Looks like the MX will take a back seat for a while. We have a dodgy old
FA 35-70 macro that can do duty as a jack-of-all-trades lens for now.
Worryingly, she asked me what the next PUG theme was !



Cheers,
  Cotty







Re: Epson papers

2005-12-25 Thread Juey Chong Ong
Ditto for me. Once the printer is recognized to have MK or PK ink in  
it, it remains recognized even if I turn it off and back on again.


As for whether to keep the printer off or on when not in use, that is  
a point of debate. Epson recommends that the printer be turned off  
(via the power switch on the printer --- not by pulling the plug)  
because that moves the print head over a cover that prevents the  
print head from drying out and clogging. I don't think it's necessary  
if you use your printer often. The Ultrachrome inks also don't  
evaporate as quickly as the dye-based inks used in the lower cost  
Epson printers.


--jc


On Dec 25, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

That's not the case on my Mac with the latest 2200 drivers. Once  
the computer has recognized the new cartridge, it will continue to  
recognize whether it's turned off or not. However, I don't turn my  
printer off. I see no reason to do so.

Paul




Re: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Don,

If you use a table, the pictures and labels will format correctly  
regardless of what screen size they're displayed on. Replace the text  
in Compare.html for a better display:


=






quickie resolution test






		http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/DA50_200.jpg";  
width="326" height="549">
		http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/FA28_70.jpg";  
width="320" height="544">
		http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/FA24_90.jpg";  
width="324" height="547">




DA 50-200/4-5.6


FA28-70/4 AL


FA24-90/3.5-4.5







=
Godfrey

On Dec 25, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:


Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.

Don


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:44 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.


Don.

I see two targets on the top of my screen and one at the bottom left.
Are they in order of the lenses you mention below.

If so, the 24-90(bottom) looks the best to me.

Dave



Don Sanderson wrote:

Here are three of my "best" lenses pitted
against each other.
FA28-70, DA50-200 and FA24-90.
The 24-90 is from a wonderful list member
who got it replaced after a brief dunk in
water. 6 hours later I had it cleaned and
on the D and _I Love It!_
Dear wonderful list member, (you know who
you are) *** Thanks! ***



http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Compare.htm

Don











Re: Vic MacBournie

2005-12-25 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 09:16:31AM +, Cotty wrote:
> On 24/12/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >BTW: My *Christmas Spirit" is Glenfiddich. Dr. Lisa bought me a bottle
> >:)
> > 
> 
> Never was a whisky bod, though that might change in the future of
> course. Southern Comfort :-)

Southern Comfort is a nice enough drink (especially the 100 proof),
but it isn't really the same sort of thing as a good Scotch.

We actually added a new scotch to the collection - the Glenmorangie
Burgundy Wood Aged.  It's quite interesting - it tastes far more like
a peaty scotch (such as an Islay) than the rest of the Glenmorangie
range, which are fairly typical light scotches (somewhat similar to
a Glenlivet, which I believe is distilled in the next valley).
(I believe that's seven different Glenmorangies that we now own).



Re: PAW: Christmas Parade

2005-12-25 Thread brooksdj
Looks like the lab did a great job on saving shots Frank.

Nothing wrong it this one.

Dave

> Some of you may recall my tale of woe:  My 
youngest daughter, Claire,
> was in the Christmas parade in the town of Gananoque, Ontario, on the
> "Anne of Green Gables" float, since she was in the Thousand Islands
> Playhouse production of same last summer.
> 
> Without getting into details again, I screwed up on the exposure, and
> several people here suggested that I just push the developing two
> stops.  Well, it salvaged several shots, and although this ain't
> great, it's the best of them.  I have a keepsake of what was a special
> day for Claire and her family (including me! ):
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3972731&size=lg
> 
> Comments are always welcome.
> 
> BTW, that's Claire smiling at the camera.  
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 






Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

So, are you taking full advantage of digital?


I certainly try. ;-)


1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?


Yes. It's a tool for simple frequency analysis of the scene  
brightnesses, a graph with brightness plotted from left to right and  
count plotted vertically. It is most useful when used in conjunction  
with evaluating the scene to understand the expected shape.


2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When?  
Under what

situations?


Extremely rarely, usually under either very difficult or very average  
lighting only.



3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?


I set the hot spot blinkies for review only, and set the review to  
fire for 3 seconds when I use it. The advantage of blinkies over  
histogram is that they show WHERE in the image you are nearing  
saturation, not just that you are nearing saturation like you do with  
a histogram.


The spatial and saturation information is useful if you understand  
what the hot spot blinkies are showing: it's showing what a JPEG  
rendering of the scene using the camera settings has done to  
highlights. I interpret that display relative to what I can rely upon  
as the difference between a customized RGB conversion curve vs the in- 
camera processing.


4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than  
the

other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?


I use the hotspot blinkies when shooting, unless I've turned off  
review entirely. I occasionally use the histogram when evaluating a  
difficult scene in Play mode.


Godfrey



eekBay strikes again!

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7573870536

I've bought whole, mint, MX's for that!

Don



Re: PESO: Merry Christmas Morn

2005-12-25 Thread Paul Stenquist


On Dec 25, 2005, at 1:27 PM, Cotty wrote:

Holy mackerel he has the head of JCO nailed to that tree.


It's a Christmas tradition.


On 25/12/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:


The obligatory Christmas tree pic:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3974230&size=lg






Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
The D uses compact flash, it's a PITA until the card
wears a little.
Now I can hit the button and catch it as it flys out! ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:25 PM
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Presents

>8. The SD card is easy to get at - same or different to the D?>

> Cheers,
>   Cotty
> 
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RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
Consider it hung on to! ;-)
It and the 16-45 are currently my favorite zooms.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:25 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.
>
>
> We all understand about QC ranges on everything, including the 24~90.
> I've seen SQF test results (Pop Photo) that ranged from very good to
> not very good.
> Hang on to that lens!
>
> Jack
>
> --- Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
> > Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
> > And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:44 AM
> > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > > Subject: RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.
> > >
> > >
> > > Don.
> > >
> > > I see two targets on the top of my screen and one at the bottom
> > left.
> > > Are they in order of the lenses you mention below.
> > >
> > > If so, the 24-90(bottom) looks the best to me.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Don Sanderson wrote:
> > > > > > Here are three of my "best" lenses pitted
> > > > > > against each other.
> > > > > > FA28-70, DA50-200 and FA24-90.
> > > > > > The 24-90 is from a wonderful list member
> > > > > > who got it replaced after a brief dunk in
> > > > > > water. 6 hours later I had it cleaned and
> > > > > > on the D and _I Love It!_
> > > > > > Dear wonderful list member, (you know who
> > > > > > you are) *** Thanks! ***
> > >
> > > > > > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Compare.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: Epson Papers II (for us poor folk without a 2400 or 4800 printer)

2005-12-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I have an older Epson 1270 printer, same series as the 870 I think.  
Epson's profiles work well for all their papers and they produce good  
results with this printer, for color prints anyway. I have printed on  
Epson Premium Glossy with it with no particular problems.


Godfrey

On Dec 25, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


So what's the recommendation for those of us using older, cheaper
Epson printers.
I've an old 870 Photo and I've ordered a MacBeth Color Checker card.
I'm going to try calibrating my monitor by eye (?!?) to the card, and
then calibrating the resultant print to the card.

What I've experienced so far is big color variations by type of  
paper used.

I went out yesterday and bought some Epson Heavyweight Matte and some
Epson Archival Matte paper, but looking at the prior thread, I'm not
so sure I shouldn't have gotten glossy or semi-gloss paper.  Any
advice?

Regards,  Bob S.





Re: Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/25/2005 10:26:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Worryingly, she asked me what the next PUG theme was ! 




Cheers,
  Cotty
=
Heheheheheheehehe.

Marnie aka Doe  I envy the Voyager DVDs.



Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/25/2005 10:03:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Of course, some old farts don't need to check to see if their exposures are
correct.
===
True. 

Of course, Shel, you are better at exposure than most people anyway.

And some old farts, like Shaw and Lepp, do use it. Usually on the starting 
shot and then not referring to it again on subsequent shots of the same thing. 
However, they are primarily landscape photographers with usually static 
subjects, also true. And I was including myself in the old fart category, BTW, 
one 
who forgets the histogram is there. :-)

Well, I debated even responding to you because I didn't want the survey to go 
OT right away. 

Hope people keep on answering, thanks.

Funny, the survey never showed up in my box, only two replies (so far). If it 
doesn't maybe I will resend it tonight or something. Or maybe not, thanks for 
requoting it.

Later, Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: Merry Christmas Morn

2005-12-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/12/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The obligatory Christmas tree pic:
>http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3974230&size=lg

Holy mackerel he has the head of JCO nailed to that tree.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread Jack Davis
We all understand about QC ranges on everything, including the 24~90.
I've seen SQF test results (Pop Photo) that ranged from very good to
not very good.
Hang on to that lens!

Jack

--- Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
> Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
> And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.
> 
> Don
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:44 AM
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.
> > 
> > 
> > Don.
> > 
> > I see two targets on the top of my screen and one at the bottom
> left.
> > Are they in order of the lenses you mention below.
> > 
> > If so, the 24-90(bottom) looks the best to me. 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > > > Don Sanderson wrote:
> > > > > Here are three of my "best" lenses pitted
> > > > > against each other.
> > > > > FA28-70, DA50-200 and FA24-90.
> > > > > The 24-90 is from a wonderful list member
> > > > > who got it replaced after a brief dunk in
> > > > > water. 6 hours later I had it cleaned and
> > > > > on the D and _I Love It!_
> > > > > Dear wonderful list member, (you know who
> > > > > you are) *** Thanks! ***
> >  
> > > > > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Compare.htm
> > > > > 
> > > > > Don
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




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Presents

2005-12-25 Thread Cotty
Biggest ones:

Stefan: Canon printer!
Me: Boxed sets of Voyager DVDs :-)
Alma: Pentax *ist Ds

Har, I been playing with this cute lil thing (the camera, not my wife).

1. Rocker switch affair on the back - it works fine, just need the knack.
2. Nice body build, feels solid enough. (my wife, as well as the camera)
3. Menu hierarchy seems okay, can't figure out how to change ISO but
what the hell, will read the manual eventually.
4. Eyepiece rubber is flimsy and pretty useless.
5. Put some AAs in and in no time it was flashing 'battery depleted' at
me. Measured 1.47 volts across all. Harumph. Put some fresh one's in and
seems okay.
6. Tried some old manual lenses on, icluding Tokina 17 3.5 and worked
okay - after I took it out of AF- S mode and left it in continuous. I
don't believe in single anything. No green buttons, it just works.
(Already upped the firmware to 2.0)
7. It's so slw compared to the 1D but hey, no surprise. Fast enough
for her ladyship. She loves the pop-up flash.
8. The SD card is easy to get at - same or different to the D?
9. So light, the whole camera weighs about the same as the 1D's battery
alone. 
10. Overall, a nice little thing.

Looks like the MX will take a back seat for a while. We have a dodgy old
FA 35-70 macro that can do duty as a jack-of-all-trades lens for now.
Worryingly, she asked me what the next PUG theme was ! 




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: Noodles

2005-12-25 Thread Jack Davis
CLEVER ALERT: Heading; "Something doesn't taste right".
Got'a be a fun lens. Nice moment.

Jack

--- Michael Spivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A photo of my friend eating his lunch :)
> Pentax ME Super + Zenitar 16 + Ilford PAN 400
> 
> http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery/albums/Miscelaneous/PAN400_0001.jpg
> 
> --
> Yours
> Michael
> 
> 





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RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread brooksdj
Thnaks.
No need to be sorry.:-)

Dave  

> Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 
screen size.
> Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
> And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.
> 
> Don
> 





RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi Dave, sorry, it was written for a 1024x768 screen size.
Order on screen is DA50-200, FA28-70/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5.
And yes, the 24-90 is better by quite a bit.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:44 AM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.
> 
> 
> Don.
> 
> I see two targets on the top of my screen and one at the bottom left.
> Are they in order of the lenses you mention below.
> 
> If so, the 24-90(bottom) looks the best to me. 
> 
> Dave
> 
>   
> > > Don Sanderson wrote:
> > > > Here are three of my "best" lenses pitted
> > > > against each other.
> > > > FA28-70, DA50-200 and FA24-90.
> > > > The 24-90 is from a wonderful list member
> > > > who got it replaced after a brief dunk in
> > > > water. 6 hours later I had it cleaned and
> > > > on the D and _I Love It!_
> > > > Dear wonderful list member, (you know who
> > > > you are) *** Thanks! ***
>  
> > > > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Compare.htm
> > > > 
> > > > Don
> > >   
> 
> 



Re: Agfa - a sad day indeed

2005-12-25 Thread Bob Shell
There were reports last week that Hasselblad is shutting down all  
Swedish production.  That is another sad end to an era, if the  
reports are true.


Bob



Re: PESO: Sunday Morning Coffee

2005-12-25 Thread brooksdj
> A winter morning at the coffee shop. 
Pentax *istD, DA 12-24 @ 24 mm, f8 
> @ 1/30th, heavy backlight -- smc comes through again.
> 
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3971192&size=lg
> 

I think the shot works out fine.
The background gives it a bit of a 3D effect, sorta kinda.:-)

Good job.

Dave




RE: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Of course, some old farts don't need to check to see if their exposures are
correct.

Admittedly, it took a while for me to understand how the exposure worked
with the istDS, but once it was understood (Thanks Godfrey!), there was no
longer a need to use the histogram or the blinkies.  Further, using the
histogram or blinkies is generally only worthwhile when photographing
relatively static subjects.  Working with changing scenes, such as
photographing on the street or at events, taking time to look at these
"tools" may only be a distraction and be the cause for missing some good
shots.

To answer your survey questions:

1)  Yes, I take full advantage of digital.

2)  I rarely look at the histogram now.  I may do as I would use a
hand-held meter with a film camera, to establish the overall light in a
general scene or situation, but that's about all.  Once a base reading has
been established, I'll adjust exposure according to the individual scene or
circumstances.

3) Same as above.

4) I generally prefer the blinkies.  I've never used my digi at a concert.

Shel 
" ... " 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> When I attended the John Shaw weekend and later a George Lepp weekend, I
was  
> surprised to learn they both refer to the histogram when they shoot. So
I've 
> been keeping the idea for this survey in the hopper until the appropriate
time.
>
> I usually forget the histogram is even there. But when I stopped to think 
> about, their use of it makes sense. One thing digital has over film is
that one 
> can actually check how one's exposure is coming out. I often found
exposure 
> difficult when shooting slide film, especially high contrast scenes.
>
> It really is one of the big advantage of digital. Of course, some of us
may 
> be old farts and haven't really adjusted to the changes from film to
digital. 
> But part of being a good crafts person is knowing one tools and using
their 
> capabilities. So when the tool changes isn't it wise to change one
practices to 
> match the changes in the tool? Isn't it sort of resistant to just
stubbornly 
> stay with the same practices regardless? 
>
> (These are rhetorical questions and not part of the survey. Just me
pondering 
> the practical/philosophical implications. If you do want to address them 
> anyway, please do so at the bottom of the survey. :))
>
> 
>
> So, are you taking full advantage of digital? 
>
> 1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?
>
> 2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When? Under
what 
> situations?
>
> 3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?
>
> 4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the 
> other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?
>
> -
>
>
> Well, this survey should be good for the holidays or a rainy, slow day,
if 
> nothing else.
>
> (If there are enough answers I will tally them. And, yes, I still owe you
the 
> results of the exposure survey I did about 9 months ago. I will report
both 
> about the same time.)
>
> TIA, Marnie aka Doe ;-)   




Re: Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread brooksdj

> (These are rhetorical questions and not part of the survey. Just me pondering 
> the practical/philosophical implications. If you do want to address them 
> anyway, please do so at the bottom of the survey. :))
> 
> 
> 
> So, are you taking full advantage of digital? 
> 
> 1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?

Well, and i'm very embarrased to say this,but i ~think~ i understand the histo 
about 80%.
Having
shot digital since 2001, i should be able to say 100%.:-)
> 
> 2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When? Under what 
> situations?

With my D1,never.With my D2H just about every shot. With the istD about 50%.
Reason D1 meters well. D2H is different every few minutes. istD is pretty 
close. I usually
check it
at first, then leave it alone, as long as the screen looks like the first shot 
that the
histo is
good in. In other words the D1 and ustD metering seems pretty good in 90% of 
situations.
Oh and i;ll check it after flash shots. However,my istD and Sigma shots seem 
alot better
now, after
i noticed something real stupid i would do with the flash.

> 
> 3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?

Nope. I used to,but because a super tiny bit of over exposure can cause 
blinkies , i
tended to
reshoot,with - correction. After looking at the computer, the first shot was 
fine, the
subsiquent
shot was under exposed, and on the D2H, underexposing is death.:-)Now, i just 
check the
histo and
set exposure until the right side is close to blown out but not quite.

> 
> 4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the 
> other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?

I'd say histo over blinkies. However i still have a hard time cyferin' the flat 
looking
histo, were
it just rises above the bottom plate. I try many combos of Tv and Av for some 
shots but
its a very
flat histo, however on computer viewing, it looks fine.Go fiqure.

Hope that helps

DAVE
> 
> -
> 
> 
> Well, this survey should be good for the holidays or a rainy, slow day, if 
> nothing else.
> 
> (If there are enough answers I will tally them. And, yes, I still owe you the 
> results of the exposure survey I did about 9 months ago. I will report both 
> about the same time.)
> 
> TIA, Marnie aka Doe ;-)   
> 






Re: PESO: Merry Christmas Morn

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/25/2005 5:44:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The obligatory Christmas tree pic:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3974230&size=lg

Nice shot, Paul. Very festive and pretty.

Boy, you guys really do it up! And good thing you captured it before it 
became a wrapping stewn mess. ;-)

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: Noodles

2005-12-25 Thread Michael Spivak
I was using the M42 version of the lens that i've had to "break" :-)
I've open that back part of the lens, took out the pint that closes
the diafragm and closed the lens back. This made the lens always close
the diafragm when you close it with the ring and open it when you open
it. Like the A/M switch on some lenses.

Thanks for you reply
Michael

On 12/25/05, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I take it from the fact that you were successfully able to use it,
> that the back side of the Zenitar does not hit the mirror on an ME
> Super? Was this with or without the back-side filter on the lens?
>
> Very nice shot, BTW. Putting your friend a little off center in the
> shot, and the lines of the table and wall/window down the middle
> anchor the shot quite nicely.
>
> -Mat
>
>
> On 12/25/05, Michael Spivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A photo of my friend eating his lunch :)
> > Pentax ME Super + Zenitar 16 + Ilford PAN 400
> >
> > http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery/albums/Miscelaneous/PAN400_0001.jpg
>
>


--
Yours
Michael



Re: Lens Hoods

2005-12-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston wrote a good SMP column about flare, lens hoods, etc.]

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-01-12.shtml

"By the way, a common misconception about lenses is that you need the
longest possible hood to protect the lens. This isn't necessarily so.
With some lenses, acutely-impinging light is the biggest cause of flare,
more so than more directly impinging light. A short lens hood which
protects the lens from this glancing sidelight will serve well to reduce
flare, even though it's relatively useless at protecting the front
element of the lens from direct light rays."

And:

"The Pentax 43mm Limited was the best lens I ever encountered at this
test. The superb flare control of this lens probably partially accounts
for its amazing ability to record microdetail."
:)
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PESO: Noodles

2005-12-25 Thread Mat Maessen
I take it from the fact that you were successfully able to use it,
that the back side of the Zenitar does not hit the mirror on an ME
Super? Was this with or without the back-side filter on the lens?

Very nice shot, BTW. Putting your friend a little off center in the
shot, and the lines of the table and wall/window down the middle
anchor the shot quite nicely.

-Mat


On 12/25/05, Michael Spivak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A photo of my friend eating his lunch :)
> Pentax ME Super + Zenitar 16 + Ilford PAN 400
>
> http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery/albums/Miscelaneous/PAN400_0001.jpg



RE: 3 quick lens tests_Surprise.

2005-12-25 Thread brooksdj
Don.

I see two targets on the top of my screen and one at the bottom left.
Are they in order of the lenses you mention below.

If so, the 24-90(bottom) looks the best to me. 

Dave


> > Don Sanderson wrote:
> > > Here are three of my "best" lenses pitted
> > > against each other.
> > > FA28-70, DA50-200 and FA24-90.
> > > The 24-90 is from a wonderful list member
> > > who got it replaced after a brief dunk in
> > > water. 6 hours later I had it cleaned and
> > > on the D and _I Love It!_
> > > Dear wonderful list member, (you know who
> > > you are) *** Thanks! ***
 
> > > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Compare.htm
> > > 
> > > Don
> > 




Survey: How do you use the Histogram/Blinkies?

2005-12-25 Thread Eactivist
Okay, things are slow, so time for another survey!!! Sorry, this is only for 
digital users.

When I attended the John Shaw weekend and later a George Lepp weekend, I was  
surprised to learn they both refer to the histogram when they shoot. So I've 
been keeping the idea for this survey in the hopper until the appropriate time.

I usually forget the histogram is even there. But when I stopped to think 
about, their use of it makes sense. One thing digital has over film is that one 
can actually check how one's exposure is coming out. I often found exposure 
difficult when shooting slide film, especially high contrast scenes.

It really is one of the big advantage of digital. Of course, some of us may 
be old farts and haven't really adjusted to the changes from film to digital. 
But part of being a good crafts person is knowing one tools and using their 
capabilities. So when the tool changes isn't it wise to change one practices to 
match the changes in the tool? Isn't it sort of resistant to just stubbornly 
stay with the same practices regardless? 

(These are rhetorical questions and not part of the survey. Just me pondering 
the practical/philosophical implications. If you do want to address them 
anyway, please do so at the bottom of the survey. :))



So, are you taking full advantage of digital? 

1. Do you feel you understand the histogram?

2. Do you ever look at the histogram while you are shooting? When? Under what 
situations?

3. Do you ever look at the blinkies? When? Under what situations?

4. Do you find one of them (histogram or blinkies) more useful than the 
other? Do you look at it more? Or do you tend to use both in concert?

-


Well, this survey should be good for the holidays or a rainy, slow day, if 
nothing else.

(If there are enough answers I will tally them. And, yes, I still owe you the 
results of the exposure survey I did about 9 months ago. I will report both 
about the same time.)

TIA, Marnie aka Doe ;-)   



Re: OT -- The travel camera

2005-12-25 Thread brooksdj
Yours.

Dave 

> Is that your right or mine?
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 12/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My place is easy to find.
> > Two rights and a left.:-)
> >
> > Dave
> 






PESO: Noodles

2005-12-25 Thread Michael Spivak
A photo of my friend eating his lunch :)
Pentax ME Super + Zenitar 16 + Ilford PAN 400

http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery/albums/Miscelaneous/PAN400_0001.jpg

--
Yours
Michael



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