RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W
 
  Now, kind sir, would you please explain what Copse means?
  
  Similar, but not exactly the same as, spinney.  8-)))
  
  Small group of trees.
   
   
   Copse in London translates as 'Luxury development of flats
  or houses
   available shortly'.
   
   Malcolm
  
  So the same as meadow, ancient woodland and flood plain, then?
 
 Goodness me, no:
 
 Meadow = slip road
 
 Ancient Woodland = bypass
 
 Flood Plain = industrial area
 

Hey! I live in a floodplain! 

This is brought home to me quite regularly when I walk along the side of the
river when there's a very high tide lapping over the berm - which is at the
height of the 1st floor windows of the nearest houses...

I hope this thing works:
http://wwp.greenwichengland.co.uk/tourism/barrier.htm

Bob



Re: Pentax 100-300

2006-02-19 Thread Gautam Sarup
Brian,

I think of it as a good value for money lens.  I don't use it a lot
and didn't pay a lot.  It does nicely enough what I do use it.

Cheers,
Gautam

On 2/18/06, Brian Dipert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 terms and considering the price?

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Re: Pentax 100-300

2006-02-19 Thread Toine Kuiper
I have the F100-300, even at 300 mm is not bad. It shows some CA at
300mm which is easily fixed with adobe camera raw. Price/performance
is excellent.
A stitch from several shots:
http://www.bmt.tue.nl/panorama/Goor_30dec2005/default.htm

On 2/19/06, Brian Dipert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 terms and considering the price?

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SMC DA 12-24/4 - request for RAW files

2006-02-19 Thread Jarek Dabrowski

Hello,

I am currently planning to ruin my funds and go superwide with my DS. 
The choice is very limited, actually two lenses, SMC-DA 12-24/4 and 
Sigma 10-20/4-5.6 are available on the market (I don't want DA 10-17 
Fisheye, at least I don't want it now :). The big advantages of Pentax 
are SMC coating, 24mm, and constant f4 aperture. Sigma goes wider, is 
darker (5.6), but much cheaper... So, it'time now to check the picture 
quality :).


I found interesting comparison of superwide lenses (for Nikon, but Sigma 
is here):

http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/nikon_articles/nikkor/af/wide_angles_shootout/index.html
I am impressed by Sigma's sharpness at the frame edge:
http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/nikon_articles/nikkor/af/wide_angles_shootout/chromatic_aberration.html

As far as I know some of PDMLers have DA 12-24 - my question is, if they 
can share some RAW (pef or dng) files, so I can judge them by myself.
If so, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - one ~10Mb file 
per email should be OK.


Thanks in advance
Jerry



Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/06, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic41.html

That's a very nice photo.  If I were you I'd rotate it slightly to  
make the horizon straight, then make a big print.

Thanks Dave. The distant hill is actually inclining upwards to the left.
I know what you mean though.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Attn Don Williams

2006-02-19 Thread Cotty
Don, I tried replying to your post off list but it was bounced back at
me 'access denied'...

The original message was received at Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:41:19 -0800 (PST)
from smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
email deleted
(reason: 554 pne-smtpin2-sn2.hy.skanova.net Service not available -
access denied)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to mta.inet.fi.:
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554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
Final-Recipient: RFC822; email deleted
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 pne-smtpin2-sn2.hy.skanova.net Service not
available - access denied
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:41:20 -0800 (PST)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Attn Don Williams

2006-02-19 Thread Don Williams

Hi Cotty,

That's very strange. It may be something 
local -- '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -- is in 
order and is my main email client. But 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' works as well. 
There are a hell of a lot of Don Williams' in 
the world.


D

Cotty wrote:

Don, I tried replying to your post off list but it was bounced back at
me 'access denied'...

The original message was received at Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:41:19 -0800 (PST)
from smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
email deleted
(reason: 554 pne-smtpin2-sn2.hy.skanova.net Service not available -
access denied)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to mta.inet.fi.:
 554 pne-smtpin2-sn2.hy.skanova.net Service not available - access denied
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
Final-Recipient: RFC822; email deleted
Action: failed
Status: 5.5.0
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 554 pne-smtpin2-sn2.hy.skanova.net Service not
available - access denied
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 00:41:20 -0800 (PST)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Updated: Added Print Gallery - 16 11 2005



Re: Another stacked set

2006-02-19 Thread Don Williams

Hi again Rob,

I took another look at that stack.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/HOLD/401-452.jpg

Much of what you interpreted as chromatic 
aberration is the phase contrast halo. Phase 
contrast is an imaging method that uses 1/4 
wavelength 'out of phase' illumination to 
enhance very small changes in refractive 
index of a specimen. The colour is 
unpredictable because not only does the phase 
change, the wavelength does as well. There 
are several filters in the lightpath and 
changes in the voltage on the lamp also 
complicates matters. There are too many 
variables to control.


This specimen would be impossible to image 
with phase contrast if it were not empty. The 
protoplasm would simply make it too thick to 
image and the whole thing would be a brightly 
illuminated blob with nothing at all to be 
seen. If phase contrast interests you there 
is a very good explanation of it on the Nikon 
microscopy website. The condenser provides a 
mixture of light with a 1/4 wave 'out of 
phase' component. This is imaged with an 
objective that converts it back to 'in phase' 
packets. But that's an oversimplification. 
Its done with phase rings, or annuli if you 
like, in the optics. The problem is that 
thick specimens don't image properly. Thin 
ones do. The bacteria in the picture -- dark 
small and sausage shaped -- show up very 
well. In normal bright field most bacteria 
are practically invisible and are usually 
stained.


Incidentally there are quite a few stacks to 
be seen in the crystal pictures on my website 
-- under the red 'Prints' button. I can't say 
which ones off hand but those without 'out of 
focus parts' are probably stacks.


D
--
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RE: Pentax 100-300

2006-02-19 Thread Jens Bladt
Some very nice panoramas you have, Toine. I like the class-room ones a lot.
Well done!
I kinda like the Spiffy viewer too, although the images are rather large
(needy).
All the best
Jens

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Toine Kuiper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 19. februar 2006 09:22
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Pentax 100-300


I have the F100-300, even at 300 mm is not bad. It shows some CA at
300mm which is easily fixed with adobe camera raw. Price/performance
is excellent.
A stitch from several shots:
http://www.bmt.tue.nl/panorama/Goor_30dec2005/default.htm

On 2/19/06, Brian Dipert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's $99.95 right now at BH. Thoughts on this lens, folks, both in
absolute
 terms and considering the price?

 ==
 Brian Dipert
 Senior Technical Editor: Mass Storage, Multimedia (audio, displays, 2-D
and
 3-D graphics, and still and video imaging), PCs and Peripherals
 EDN Magazine: http://www.edn.com
 My blog: http://www.edn.com/briansbrain
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RE: Poll: Best Photo Ever (comments)

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W
Thanks Dave. What OS and browser are you using? I just threw that page
together with some quick  dirty xml/xsl/css that I played with a couple of
years ago and never bothered to finish. It hasn't been extensively tested at
all.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 February 2006 04:30
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Poll: Best Photo Ever (comments)
 
 On Feb 18, 2006, at 10:39 PM, Bob W wrote:
 
  Thanks. I thought it might be quite interesting to show the picture 
  next to one of her younger daughter, also one of my 
 favourite photos, 
  and which has a certain similarity of composition:
 
  http://www.web-options.com/ss.xml
 
 I like the photos a lot, even though they overlap in my browser.
 
 - Dave
 
 http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/
 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
 
 
 
 
 
 



RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W
Cotty,

that's a superb photo. It captures the rolling downland beautifully, with
the characteristic copses on top. I'm immediately reminded of quite a famous
photo by Bill Brandt of a very similar scene, but without the farm and in
black and white. 

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 February 2006 08:42
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse
 
 On 19/2/06, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic41.html
 
 That's a very nice photo.  If I were you I'd rotate it 
 slightly to make 
 the horizon straight, then make a big print.
 
 Thanks Dave. The distant hill is actually inclining upwards 
 to the left.
 I know what you mean though.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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RE: Update on D FA 50 F2.8 Macro

2006-02-19 Thread Tom C
Can't argue with that! Quite nice.  It instantly evoked a memory-smell. We 
had roses in a vase recently and several were yellow.  They smelled the best 
and were quite strong.  I swear I was smelling it again the instant I saw 
your shot.


Cool how that happens.  Thanks!


Here's an early photo:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3537/display/5022625

Joe






Re: SV: Misteries of Ken Rockwell

2006-02-19 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

On 2006-02-18, at 23:55, Jens Bladt wrote:


I hope the others are right.
*ist D, DS and DS2 offers 0.95, the *ist DL  0.85  magnification
ikon DX2 offers 1.0, D1X  0.8


You're not right ;-) Nikon D2X has 0.86x magnification but 100%  
coverage. So it should have similar size to the viewfinder in Pentax  
D/Ds


--
Best regards
Sylwek




Re: Anyway to do this faster

2006-02-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Gang,

I was about to order a copy of Real World Camera Raw and thought that, as
long as I'm ordering one book, I may want to order another book or two. 
Are there any other highly recommended books on camera raw that might be
worth having, and what might they offer that Fraser's book doesn't.  Thanks!

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 Bruce Fraser's book is, to date, the definitive work on RAW workflow  
 automation with Photoshop CS and CS2. Scott Kelby's books are light  
 on this topic, at best.

 Be sure to get the version of the book that matches your version of  
 Photoshop ... CS and CS2 differ considerably with respect to use of  
 the file browser or Bridge, Camera Raw and automation functionality.




Re: Update on D FA 50 F2.8 Macro

2006-02-19 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Joseph Tainter 
 
 Here's an early photo:
 
 http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3537/display/5022625

Joe, that's gorgeous.

Seconded.
With all due respect to Mike Johnston g, I like flower shots when
they're done well, that is, almost to the point of their becoming
abstract. Great work.
 
 
-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Good parenting

2006-02-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Derby Chang

Subject: OT: Good parenting



Oh dear,

Parents find lost digital camera, but declines to return it because their 
child likes it.


http://lostcamera.blogspot.com/2006/02/camera-unlost-but-not-quite-found.html

The extra kicker about the memory cards is incredible.


The owner of the camera would be well advised to tell their insurance 
company that the camera they had lost (and I presume had claimed for) was 
found, and let them go after it.


William Robb 





PAW - Load Here

2006-02-19 Thread frank theriault
First of all, I know I my activity on this list has tailed off of
late.  I've been quite busy at work, and so my surfing time is not
what it used to be g.  I've not been able to comment on as many PAWs
and PESOs as I'd like to, but I've saved them all, and hope to be able
to catch up over the next week or two.

Here's my offering this week:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4139374

cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On 2/17/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On the other hand, why should an absence of external purpose be bleak? It's
 liberating. It means we get to decide how we want to live and what we want
 to do with our lives. Strangely enough, we usually come to the same
 conclusion as people who think there's a purpose, namely to care about
 children and family, and to try to help other people and make the world a
 better place. But we've come to the conclusion because we've thought it
 through, not because God has told us to and we'll go to hell if we don't do
 as we're told.

We are condemned to be free

Yeah, baby, existentialism rules!  frank thrusts hand in the air,
thumb, index finger and pinky extended

cheers,
frank The Rebel theriault



--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW - Load Here

2006-02-19 Thread David Savage
I like it. Can't say why exactly, but I do g

Dave

P.S. Alternate title suggestion Streetcar named Mike :-)

On 2/19/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First of all, I know I my activity on this list has tailed off of
 late.  I've been quite busy at work, and so my surfing time is not
 what it used to be g.  I've not been able to comment on as many PAWs
 and PESOs as I'd like to, but I've saved them all, and hope to be able
 to catch up over the next week or two.

 Here's my offering this week:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4139374

 cheers,
 frank
 --
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





RE: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W

 We are condemned to be free
 
 Yeah, baby, existentialism rules!  frank thrusts hand in the 
 air, thumb, index finger and pinky extended
 
 cheers,
 frank The Rebel theriault

You must immediately change your surname to Meursault, and go outside.

Salut (with a Gallic shrug),

Bobus



Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 18, 2006, at 5:02 PM, John Forbes wrote:


There must be a past.  Otherwise, you wouldn't have had a present.

John



False logic.

Bob



Re: PAW - Load Here

2006-02-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Frank,

 First of all, I know I my activity on this list has tailed off of
 late.  I've been quite busy at work, and so my surfing time is not
 what it used to be g.  I've not been able to comment on as many PAWs
 and PESOs as I'd like to, but I've saved them all, and hope to be able
 to catch up over the next week or two.

 Here's my offering this week:

 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4139374

I readily admit - I am reading yet another book on composition. I am
not sure how much I learn, but it does make me stop and think deeper.

What I see is that I've much to learn from you. Here's why:

1. Two men - one on the platform and one in the train - they look to
me like two stages of the same process - boarding the train. You see,
they wear the same *tonal* kind of clothes and *amazingly to me, that
I see it now* the backpack's form is similar to that of coat or
whatever piece of cloth the man on the platform holds.

2. The sequence of a person sitting just beneath the sign, the
blurred moving person and person further to the right has same
transitional properties, very similar to what I described above.

Together 1 and 2 give me a sense of frozen moment yet a process in
development, a motion of sorts.

Further, the play of bright lamp and brighter-than-train floor
smoothly let me enter the frame...

All together - marvelous piece...

I wish someone would analyze my photos like I just did for you bg...

Frank, how's your trip across the pond going? I am rather afraid you
cancelled it :-(.

Boris


--
Boris



FS - Having missed the Friday

2006-02-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

I've decided to try for 31 Ltd lens... So I am selling some stuff I
gather I won't be needing:

1. M 50/1.4
2. Vivitar Macro Focusing TC (7 element)
3. Sigma 18/3.5 (KA mount)

If you're interested please make me an offer off-list.

--
Boris



Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 18, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Bob W wrote:



Right.  The paper questioning the out of Africa premise was
published within the last month or so.  If I recall
correctly, it was published in Nature, a properly
peer-reviewed journal of high integrity.  I can probably find
the reference if you care.



Yes, please. I'd be interested to see that.

Thanks,

Bob




It may take me a while digging through e-mails to find the one that  
brought this to my attention.  Meanwhile, here are some of my  
bookmarks on this subject that may prove interesting:


http://www.crystalinks.com/africacreation.html

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050516/firsthuman.html

http://www.historyplace.com/pointsofview/not-out.htm

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/ 
2002/07/0703_020704_georgianskull.html


FWIW, I have always thought that the out of Africa theory was a house  
of cards built on quicksand.  I had a spirited argument about this  
with Loius Leakey back in the 70s.  Leakey wanted his own discoveries  
to be the beginnings of man far too much, in my opinion.  I don't  
think he was objective about it.


Bob



Re: OT: Good parenting

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 1:13 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

Parents find lost digital camera, but declines to return it because  
their child likes it.


http://lostcamera.blogspot.com/2006/02/camera-unlost-but-not-quite- 
found.html


The extra kicker about the memory cards is incredible.



Over $ 300 is grand larceny.  He's an idiot for not going to the  
police with jurisdiction over the place where he lost the camera.   
They are the ones to deal with the Canadians, not him.


Bob



Smooth Focising

2006-02-19 Thread Jens Bladt
I have found that my new SMC-A 3.5 35-105mm has a lovely smooth focusing
mechanism.
I don't think I ever had a lens that smooth before. Not even much less used
lenses.

Why is that. What has changed? Is it made differently from others?
I never reall understood what smothe focusing was all about - until now.
I wish all my lenses were smooth like this one ;-)
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk



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Re: Good parenting

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:34 AM, William Robb wrote:

The owner of the camera would be well advised to tell their  
insurance company that the camera they had lost (and I presume had  
claimed for) was found, and let them go after it.



Good thought!  Let the lawyers get involved and these people will be  
sorry they were ever born!


Bob



RE: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W
Thanks, Bob. I shall enjoy looking at those.

Can't say I've ever met a Leakey, but I do have a friend called Lucy...g

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 February 2006 15:53
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy
 
 
 On Feb 18, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Bob W wrote:
 
 
  Right.  The paper questioning the out of Africa premise 
 was published 
  within the last month or so.  If I recall correctly, it 
 was published 
  in Nature, a properly peer-reviewed journal of high 
 integrity.  I can 
  probably find the reference if you care.
 
 
  Yes, please. I'd be interested to see that.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bob
 
 
 
 It may take me a while digging through e-mails to find the 
 one that brought this to my attention.  Meanwhile, here are 
 some of my bookmarks on this subject that may prove interesting:
 
 http://www.crystalinks.com/africacreation.html
 
 http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050516/firsthuman.html
 
 http://www.historyplace.com/pointsofview/not-out.htm
 
 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/
 2002/07/0703_020704_georgianskull.html
 
 FWIW, I have always thought that the out of Africa theory was 
 a house of cards built on quicksand.  I had a spirited 
 argument about this with Loius Leakey back in the 70s.  
 Leakey wanted his own discoveries to be the beginnings of man 
 far too much, in my opinion.  I don't think he was objective about it.
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 



RE: Smooth Focising

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W
What other Pentax manual focus lenses do you have? In my experience most of
the good ones have very smooth focusing. One in particular that springs to
mind is the M 50/1.4.

--
Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 February 2006 16:02
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Smooth Focising 
 
 I have found that my new SMC-A 3.5 35-105mm has a lovely 
 smooth focusing mechanism.
 I don't think I ever had a lens that smooth before. Not even 
 much less used lenses.
 
 Why is that. What has changed? Is it made differently from others?
 I never reall understood what smothe focusing was all about - 
 until now.
 I wish all my lenses were smooth like this one ;-) Regards
 
 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 



Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Bob W wrote:


Thanks, Bob. I shall enjoy looking at those.



If I find any more I'll post.  I'll also continue to look for the e- 
mail that alerted me to the paper.


Can't say I've ever met a Leakey, but I do have a friend called  
Lucy...g


Well, I can say that I met him, but can't say that I liked  him.   
Very closed minded person.


Bob



RE: Smooth Focising

2006-02-19 Thread Jon Myers
Yeah, I'll second that on the M50/1.4 - when I bought
my LX, the shop had one and I asked them to get it out
of their showcase... I put it on the camera and it was
love at first twist of that focusing ring. :) So easy
to turn yet well damped and smooth.


--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What other Pentax manual focus lenses do you have?
 In my experience most of
 the good ones have very smooth focusing. One in
 particular that springs to
 mind is the M 50/1.4.
 
 --
 Cheers,
  Bob 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 19 February 2006 16:02
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Smooth Focising 
  
  I have found that my new SMC-A 3.5 35-105mm has
 a lovely 
  smooth focusing mechanism.
  I don't think I ever had a lens that smooth
 before. Not even 
  much less used lenses.
  
  Why is that. What has changed? Is it made
 differently from others?
  I never reall understood what smothe focusing was
 all about - 
  until now.
  I wish all my lenses were smooth like this one ;-)
 Regards
  
  Jens Bladt
  http://www.jensbladt.dk
  
 
 


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Lasse

2006-02-19 Thread Sandra Hermann

Hi Lasse.
Yes, I am the previous jeepgirl that you remember.  Sandy, Sandra, Sam, 
Jeepgirl, BooBoo, Blubicon, any of the above or version there of is ok with 
me.  I am mostly Sandy though.  Sami is mine.  She is such a precious bundle 
of joy.  I don't see how I can think about her and hate anything at the same 
time.   Your caption describes her perfectly.  It is so very cold out today 
and she brought me her coat and cried because I said it was to cold to go 
out.  In the end she won.
We call the coat she was wearing a Serpa coat.   I am not sure if that was 
the correct name for it or not.   I bought it at a store in St. Louis called 
Children's place.


I have given up on being unsafe.  I such a precious cargo to carry with me 
now.  I tend to get crabby with unsafe drivers.  :)
Yes the horrid sailboat picture was mine.  I have given up on filters for 
now.  Maybe someday I will play with them but for now i want nature simply 
in it's best form.  :)


Thank you for the comments.
sandy



http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154






From: Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: I Hate Valentines Day
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:44:57 +0200

From: Sandra Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: I Hate Valentines Day


Well I am a lady and ladies generally stop aging at a certain age.I 
don't know how we do it we just do.  ;)
I think maybe I might have found a new reason to like valentines day 
though. I posted a new picture.

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154


Hi there, jeepgirl! (or Sandra, if you prefer).

I guess Sami is your own girl(?). Congratulations!
I immediately read the caption Hello world! I'm here and I'm getting ready 
for you! :-).


Great picture, which brings a smile to every viewer.
Btw. what do you call exactly that kind of coat?

Also, I looked at the other pictures. I like them because you are picking 
subjects that are simple and plain, yet in a way that not everyone does. (I 
still clearly recall one of your very first submissions to the PUG (God, I 
hope I don't get you mixed up with somebody else... :-) ) when you still 
had to go over to your mom's to get it scanned - a photo of a sailing(?) 
boat/ship, a murky undefined yellowish/brownish picture that didn't even 
look like a photo. (Maybe that's exactly why I remember it so well, along 
with a few other pictures that I also liked.) I thought you had a mind of 
your own and I liked the pictures I saw.)
You were asking for comments, the only thing I'd like to say is - go out 
and shoot a lot more, just the way you like it yourself, without thinking 
about how a good picture is supposed to look like. Then tell us when 
you've uploaded them.
If anything I could also encourage you to be daring, not always putting the 
subject in the center of the picture, look for depths into the picture.


Are you still making local roads unsafe and go shooting heads of snakes? 
:-)


Thanks,
Lasse






RE: PESO: Hiding From the Cold x 2

2006-02-19 Thread Tom C
Not my typical kind of shots, but I can see why both have appeal as people 
shots.


Tom C.





From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: Hiding From the Cold x 2
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 16:41:17 -0500

I stopped in at Starbuck's this afternoon and took a few pics while I drank 
some burnt-bean coffee. (I'm not wild about their brew, but the local store 
is full of photo ops.). Plenty of people in the store as it was 12 degrees 
F outside. Of the two pics I shot, I prefer this one rendered as a high 
contrast BW:

.http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4136905size=lg


The other I like better in color:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4136912

Both are with the FA 50/1.4. The BW is f1.7 @ !/90th. The color pic is 
f3.5@ 1/90th. Both are ISO 400.

Paul






Re: SMC DA 12-24/4 - request for RAW files

2006-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't buy Sigma lenses due to the problems I've had with Sigma in  
the past. The DA12-24 would be my choice of those two, but I  
personally prefer the DA14/2.8.


Here's a page with DA14 examples:
  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/14mm-examples/

The JPEGs are full resolution and processed with Camera Raw mostly at  
its defaults. No additional post processing has been applied. There  
is a RAW file, in DNG format, downloadable if you want to fool with  
it yourself.


I like this lens a lot. It was the motivation for why I purchased a  
DS in the first place, it was the only new lens I bought with the  
camera, and it has not disappointed me at all. I use it quite a lot.


Godfrey


On Feb 19, 2006, at 12:42 AM, Jarek Dabrowski wrote:


Hello,

I am currently planning to ruin my funds and go superwide with my  
DS. The choice is very limited, actually two lenses, SMC-DA 12-24/4  
and Sigma 10-20/4-5.6 are available on the market (I don't want DA  
10-17 Fisheye, at least I don't want it now :). The big advantages  
of Pentax are SMC coating, 24mm, and constant f4 aperture. Sigma  
goes wider, is darker (5.6), but much cheaper... So, it'time now to  
check the picture quality :).


I found interesting comparison of superwide lenses (for Nikon, but  
Sigma is here):
http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/nikon_articles/nikkor/af/ 
wide_angles_shootout/index.html

I am impressed by Sigma's sharpness at the frame edge:
http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/nikon_articles/nikkor/af/ 
wide_angles_shootout/chromatic_aberration.html


As far as I know some of PDMLers have DA 12-24 - my question is, if  
they can share some RAW (pef or dng) files, so I can judge them by  
myself.
If so, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - one ~10Mb  
file per email should be OK.


Thanks in advance
Jerry





Re: Smooth Focising

2006-02-19 Thread Mat Maessen
After a CLA, my A50/1.4 has a VERY nice smooth focusing feel. It felt
a bit loose before the CLA, and I know I've heard a lot of people
complain about that. My 35-105/3.5 isn't bad, but a CLA would probably
make it even better.

-Mat

On 2/19/06, Jon Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, I'll second that on the M50/1.4 - when I bought
 my LX, the shop had one and I asked them to get it out
 of their showcase... I put it on the camera and it was
 love at first twist of that focusing ring. :) So easy
 to turn yet well damped and smooth.


 --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What other Pentax manual focus lenses do you have?
  In my experience most of
  the good ones have very smooth focusing. One in
  particular that springs to
  mind is the M 50/1.4.
 
  --
  Cheers,
   Bob
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 19 February 2006 16:02
   To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
   Subject: Smooth Focising
  
   I have found that my new SMC-A 3.5 35-105mm has
  a lovely
   smooth focusing mechanism.
   I don't think I ever had a lens that smooth
  before. Not even
   much less used lenses.
  
   Why is that. What has changed? Is it made
  differently from others?
   I never reall understood what smothe focusing was
  all about -
   until now.
   I wish all my lenses were smooth like this one ;-)
  Regards
  
   Jens Bladt
   http://www.jensbladt.dk
  
 
 


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Re: Good parenting

2006-02-19 Thread Charles Robinson

On Feb 19, 2006, at 8:34, William Robb wrote:



Oh dear,

Parents find lost digital camera, but declines to return it  
because their child likes it.


http://lostcamera.blogspot.com/2006/02/camera-unlost-but-not-quite- 
found.html


The extra kicker about the memory cards is incredible.


The owner of the camera would be well advised to tell their  
insurance company that the camera they had lost (and I presume had  
claimed for) was found, and let them go after it.




I thought that was the best advice of all the ideas I read on there.

That, and getting As It Happens involved.  They'd have a FIELD day  
with this one!


 -Charles

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org



Re: Anyway to do this faster

2006-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Bruce Fraser's book is the definitive RAW workflow resource to date.  
I have looked at every Photoshop book that I see for RAW coverage,  
and so far none come up to Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS  
and the updated version for CS2. Be sure to buy the edition that  
covers the version of Photoshop you are using ... there are  
significant differences between CS and CS2.


I have also been reading Real World Photoshop CS2 and Real World  
Color Management, 2nd Edition which Fraser collaborated on. I find  
them very readable and useful.


Godfrey

On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

I was about to order a copy of Real World Camera Raw and thought  
that, as
long as I'm ordering one book, I may want to order another book or  
two.
Are there any other highly recommended books on camera raw that  
might be
worth having, and what might they offer that Fraser's book  
doesn't.  Thanks!




Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

that's a superb photo. It captures the rolling downland beautifully, with
the characteristic copses on top. I'm immediately reminded of quite a famous
photo by Bill Brandt of a very similar scene, but without the farm and in
black and white. 

Why thank you very much sir. I am indebted. I did try it in black and
white, but thought it a bit cliched coming from me. Coming from Brandt,
it would be a masterpiece. In the end I settled for colour as I found
the subtle hues of the earth caught in the light quite appealing. I'm
not at my happiest with landscapes as when I get one the way I like it,
it always looks like someone else's work ! 




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: SV: Misteries of Ken Rockwell

2006-02-19 Thread Adam Maas

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


On 2006-02-18, at 23:55, Jens Bladt wrote:


I hope the others are right.
*ist D, DS and DS2 offers 0.95, the *ist DL  0.85  magnification
ikon DX2 offers 1.0, D1X  0.8



You're not right ;-) Nikon D2X has 0.86x magnification but 100%  
coverage. So it should have similar size to the viewfinder in Pentax  
D/Ds


--
Best regards
Sylwek

The only 1.0x viewfinder on the market today that I'm aware of is the 
Cosina Voightlander R3a. The D2x, D2Hs, EOS 1Ds and EOS 1D all have 100% 
finders IIRC.


-Adam



Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Tom C

Excellent! Perfect! Cool!

Did I say excellent yet?

Peradventure, you did some additional compositions that you'd share?

Tom C.



On 2006-02-18, at 11:01, Cotty wrote:


We've been so busy moving house, and then there's the day job, I haven't
shot anything at all of worth since before Christmas. I was a few
minutes early on my way to a job, and passed this scene. I waited 15
minutes and shot half a dozen frames but the light was shite. 90 minutes
later, returning from the job, I found it slightly better.

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic41.html







Re: Smooth Focising

2006-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
All my new Pentax FA and DA lenses, with the exception of the  
FA135/2.8 IF, have very nice, very smooth focusing feel with just a  
touch of resistance for manual use. The 135's focusing ring feels a  
bit loose, annoying as it is such a good lens otherwise.


My older M and A series Pentax lenses have from mediocre to excellent  
focusing feel. The ones that are mediocre in feel need a CLA as they  
should all be excellent. For example, the M85/2 was so stiff when I  
got it as to be nearly unusable. I had it cleaned and lubricated ...  
it became superb.


Godfrey

(On the basis of the good manual focusing feel, excellent  
performance, and additional functionality of the DA and FA lenses  
I've acquired for the *ist DS, I've now sold most of my older Pentax  
lenses. The only A series lens I intend to keep is the A50/2.8 Macro  
as it suits my needs/desires for macro capability very well. I also  
sold the black MX body, which I owned for a year and never used. Two  
DS bodies and the range of lenses from 14mm to 300mm, with a 2x-S  
teleconverter, is more than I need, and I'm putting the money  
returned into other equipment needs/desires. :-)




Re: Viewfinder accessories Q

2006-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Feb 17, 2006, at 8:24 AM, Larry Levy wrote:


I offer an alternative:
There is a Seagull Right Angle Viewfinder from China.


Yes, I'd forgotten about that one. I'm usually skeptical of the  
Seagull products as my past experience with Seagull lenses on their  
TLR cameras was pretty negative, but my friend in Gloucester bought  
one for his *ist D and has been happy with it. It's certainly priced  
right!


Godfrey



Re: PESO: Hiding From the Cold x 2

2006-02-19 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

I stopped in at Starbuck's this afternoon and took a few pics while I 
drank some burnt-bean coffee. (I'm not wild about their brew, but the 
local store is full of photo ops.). Plenty of people in the store as it 
was 12 degrees F outside. Of the two pics I shot, I prefer this one 
rendered as a high contrast BW:

.http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4136905size=lg


The other I like better in color:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4136912

Both are with the FA 50/1.4. The BW is f1.7 @ !/90th. The color pic is 
f3.5@ 1/90th. Both are ISO 400.


Paul, the color one is well not bad... The b/w one is excellent.

Are you sure they serve only coffee in Star Bucks?

Boris



Re: Anyway to do this faster

2006-02-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks so much, 

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

 Bruce Fraser's book is the definitive RAW workflow resource to date.  
 I have looked at every Photoshop book that I see for RAW coverage,  
 and so far none come up to Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS  
 and the updated version for CS2. Be sure to buy the edition that  
 covers the version of Photoshop you are using ... there are  
 significant differences between CS and CS2.

 I have also been reading Real World Photoshop CS2 and Real World  
 Color Management, 2nd Edition which Fraser collaborated on. I find  
 them very readable and useful.


 Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 I was about to order a copy of Real World Camera Raw 
 and thought  that, as long as I'm ordering one book, I may 
 want to order another book or  two.
 Are there any other highly recommended books on camera 
 raw that  might be worth having, and what might they offer 
 that Fraser's book doesn't. 




Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Cotty wrote:
 
 We've been so busy moving house, and then there's the day job, I haven't
 shot anything at all of worth since before Christmas. I was a few
 minutes early on my way to a job, and passed this scene. I waited 15
 minutes and shot half a dozen frames but the light was shite. 90 minutes
 later, returning from the job, I found it slightly better.
 
 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic41.html
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 ___/\__
 ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
 ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
 _

yeah - don't know what the light was before but this light
is lovely to my eye.
what a stark place.

ann



RE: Smooth Focising

2006-02-19 Thread Jens Bladt
Well, let's see.
A- 2.8/20mm, M 2.8/35, M 1.7/50, A 2.8/28, K 2.5/135, M 4/200, K 2.8/150, M*
4/300, M 4/75-150 - and perhaps a few more.
None of them are smoth as the A 3.5/35-105mm. I had a A 1.4/50mm once (got
the FA version instead) - it was quite smooth too.
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 19. februar 2006 18:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: Smooth Focising


What other Pentax manual focus lenses do you have? In my experience most of
the good ones have very smooth focusing. One in particular that springs to
mind is the M 50/1.4.

--
Cheers,
 Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 19 February 2006 16:02
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Smooth Focising

 I have found that my new SMC-A 3.5 35-105mm has a lovely
 smooth focusing mechanism.
 I don't think I ever had a lens that smooth before. Not even
 much less used lenses.

 Why is that. What has changed? Is it made differently from others?
 I never reall understood what smothe focusing was all about -
 until now.
 I wish all my lenses were smooth like this one ;-) Regards

 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk


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Re: PESO: Hiding From the Cold x 2

2006-02-19 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

I stopped in at Starbuck's this afternoon and took a few pics while I 
drank some burnt-bean coffee. (I'm not wild about their brew, but the 
local store is full of photo ops.). Plenty of people in the store as 
it was 12 degrees F outside. Of the two pics I shot, I prefer this 
one rendered as a high contrast BW:

.http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4136905size=lg


The other I like better in color:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4136912

Both are with the FA 50/1.4. The BW is f1.7 @ !/90th. The color pic 
is f3.5@ 1/90th. Both are ISO 400.



Paul, the color one is well not bad... The b/w one is excellent.

Are you sure they serve only coffee in Star Bucks?


Yeah, y'know, I was wondering about that, too. I don't drink coffee at 
all, and I've found a few things to eat and drink in the Starbucks 
(plural) 'round here.

g

ERNR




Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Lon Williamson

I agree.  I'd frame and hang this one.  Very well done.

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

On 2006-02-18, at 11:01, Cotty wrote:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic41.html



Wow! What a beatiful composition of trees on the hill and buildings  
below. Toned colours add much to the overall atmosphere. Very well  done 
Cotty!





Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread mike wilson

Malcolm Smith wrote:


mike wilson wrote:



http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic41.html



The sky is beautifully captured.



Ever so slightly better indeed.

Now, kind sir, would you please explain what Copse means?


Similar, but not exactly the same as, spinney.  8-)))

Small group of trees.



Copse in London translates as 'Luxury development of flats or houses
available shortly'.

Malcolm


So the same as meadow, ancient woodland and flood plain, then?

m



IR filters

2006-02-19 Thread Kevin Waterson
The recent IR thread got me curious about IR and digital.
Is there a Cokin equivalent to the Hoya R72?

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: Pentax USA email address

2006-02-19 Thread mike wilson

Shel Belinkoff wrote:


That's exactly the address I wanted.  He, thorough someone that he knows,
offered some suggestions and i wanted to contact him directly for
clarification.  Thanks.

See, even your feeble sense of humour can provide useful information.

Shel


And when I try to teach people something they laugh at me.  I think I'm 
getting the hang of this, now..








[Original Message]
From: mike wilson 




Mike, if you'd be kind enough to send or post the address of the


Canadian


guy, I'd appreciate it.  There seems to be plenty of DS2's in Canada


and I


have a couple of questions re: warranty.


I'm afraid it was my pitiful sense of humour at work.  The addresses I 
have are for Marco, who asked for pictures recently.  For what they are 
worth


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]










RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
mike wilson wrote:

 Now, kind sir, would you please explain what Copse means?
 
 Similar, but not exactly the same as, spinney.  8-)))
 
 Small group of trees.
  
  
  Copse in London translates as 'Luxury development of flats 
 or houses 
  available shortly'.
  
  Malcolm
 
 So the same as meadow, ancient woodland and flood plain, then?

Goodness me, no:

Meadow = slip road

Ancient Woodland = bypass

Flood Plain = industrial area

Malcolm 




RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W
  
  http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/landscapes/images/pic41.html
  
 
 yeah - don't know what the light was before but this light is 
 lovely to my eye.
 what a stark place.
 

Ann,

it's chalk downland - the same stuff as the White Cliffs of Dover. It was
once the bottom of an ocean, and the hills rise and swell like the ocean.
The chalk, as you probably know, is the remains of trillions of little
creatures that died over millions of years. The soil is very thin on top,
and of course drains easily, so it can have the feeling of a desert when
you're out in that landscape. But it's the same landscape in which you find
places like Stonehenge and Avebury, where early Britons made their living.
Excellent walking territory. 

Cotty has really done it justice with that photo.

Bob



Re: Misteries of Ken Rockwell

2006-02-19 Thread mike wilson

William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Misteries 
of Ken Rockwell






He's not using his mouth.  As usual.



Nor his brain.

William Robb




He's definitly got an orifice.  Not sure about the organ.



Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:


Now, kind sir, would you please explain what Copse means?


Similar, but not exactly the same as, spinney.  8-)))

Small group of trees.



Copse in London translates as 'Luxury development of flats


or houses


available shortly'.

Malcolm


So the same as meadow, ancient woodland and flood plain, then?


Goodness me, no:

Meadow = slip road

Ancient Woodland = bypass

Flood Plain = industrial area




Hey! I live in a floodplain! 


This is brought home to me quite regularly when I walk along the side of the
river when there's a very high tide lapping over the berm - which is at the
height of the 1st floor windows of the nearest houses...

I hope this thing works:
http://wwp.greenwichengland.co.uk/tourism/barrier.htm

Bob


It's been used a total of 30-odd times, of which 14 are in the last five 
years.  Does that tell you anything?


m



Jazz Portraits

2006-02-19 Thread Stan Halpin

From today's Kansas City Star...

http://www.kansascity.com/multimedia/kansascity/archive/starmag/ 
Starmag_02192006_md/index.htm


The full article will be available on the Web for a limited time:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/living/13899769.htm

(c) 2006 Kansas City Star and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.



Enabled: world's smallest 35mm SLR

2006-02-19 Thread Unca Mikey
I thought I would come out of lurk mode long enough to show off my 
new toy, what I believe to be the world's smallest full-frame 35mm 
SLR.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/uncamikey/101750740/

I have had the *ist about two years now, and love it.  After I saw 
the reports from Mark Lindamood and others that the DA 40mm will work 
on 35mm (despite what Pentax says), I knew I had to get one 
eventually.  It arrived from Adorama on Friday.  My Flickr 
photostream shows how this body/lens can fit into my pocket, and a 
couple of test shots that clearly show no vignetting.


40mm is a lovely focal length -- I can understand why it was so 
popular on some rangefinders.


*UncaMikey



RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
mike wilson wrote:

  Hey! I live in a floodplain! 
  
  This is brought home to me quite regularly when I walk 
 along the side 
  of the river when there's a very high tide lapping over the berm - 
  which is at the height of the 1st floor windows of the 
 nearest houses...
  
  I hope this thing works:
  http://wwp.greenwichengland.co.uk/tourism/barrier.htm
  
  Bob
 
 It's been used a total of 30-odd times, of which 14 are in 
 the last five years.  Does that tell you anything?

A vast stretch of Waltham Abbey has been built on, which was former
floodland (and much is now Sainsbury's vast southern area depot on the edge
of the M25) and over the last few years, parts of the town which hadn't seen
floods before or for about a century got flooded - no connection there, eh?

I'd swap your car for a boat Bob! Some of the folk up the road who sail on
the Essex coast, found their boats on the drive sailable during those last
events...:-(

Malcolm




Re: Enabled: world's smallest 35mm SLR

2006-02-19 Thread Jon Myers
Cute little body, but the lack of compatibility with
non-A lenses kills it for me.


--- Unca Mikey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I thought I would come out of lurk mode long enough
 to show off my 
 new toy, what I believe to be the world's smallest
 full-frame 35mm 
 SLR.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/uncamikey/101750740/
 
 I have had the *ist about two years now, and love
 it.  After I saw 
 the reports from Mark Lindamood and others that the
 DA 40mm will work 
 on 35mm (despite what Pentax says), I knew I had to
 get one 
 eventually.  It arrived from Adorama on Friday.  My
 Flickr 
 photostream shows how this body/lens can fit into my
 pocket, and a 
 couple of test shots that clearly show no
 vignetting.
 
 40mm is a lovely focal length -- I can understand
 why it was so 
 popular on some rangefinders.
 
 *UncaMikey
 
 


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Re: Update on D FA 50 F2.8 Macro

2006-02-19 Thread Pancho Hasselbach

Joseph,

although the picture is lovely and I like shooting roses too, I think 
you oversharpened this one. The petal edge on the right looks very 
unnatural to me.


And WRT your testing and comparison of D-FA and FA 50/2.8 macro, how did 
you judge focus?


Which body did you use? Did you focus by the screen, did you use focus 
confirmation in the finder, did you vary distances slightly? I have 
experienced deviations between the screen image and the final picture in 
the past, so I don't trustlens sharpness tests that don't take this into 
account, too. I do not want to say that you did sloppy testing. I just 
want to propose that the tested lenses might be even better, if you 
don#t trust the image on the focusing screen too much.


Pancho

Joseph Tainter schrieb:


Here's an early photo:

http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3537/display/5022625

Joe




ist D question

2006-02-19 Thread Rick Womer
Why would an ist D underexpose only when in manual
mode?

(I'm toying with bidding for one on eBay that
reportedly has this problem).

Rick

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Re: hallmark collection

2006-02-19 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks - this is the print I saw. The entire Hallmark collection is now  
at the Nelson-Atkins museum in KC. The museum is currently being  
expanded, the new space will include a continuing/changing exhibit from  
this collection. Currently they are showing 31 prints as teasers.


From http://www.nelson-atkins.org/  ...

Celebrating a Grand Gift: The Hallmark Photographic Collection
Through April 30 - Gallery 208
The Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art has announced its acquisition of the  
complete Hallmark Photographic Collection, considered the most  
broad-ranging and important private collection of American photography.  
Thirty-one pieces are on display.
The collection spans the entire history of photography, from 1839 to  
the present, with works by such renowned pioneers and masters as  
Southworth  Hawes, Carleton Watkins, Timothy O’Sullivan, Alvin Langdon  
Coburn, Alfred Stieglitz, Dorothea Lange, Harry Callahan, Lee  
Friedlander, Andy Warhol and Cindy Sherman.


Stan


On Feb 18, 2006, at 4:03 PM, Derby Chang wrote:



Anyone in Kansas City? For the poster who liked Dorothea Lange's  
Migrant Mother, a print is in this collection.


I remember seeing selections of the Hallmark collection when it toured  
here. Quality.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/18/arts/design/18phot.html? 
_r=18hpiboref=slogin

http://tinyurl.com/bvfu8
(free registration required)

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Re: ist D question

2006-02-19 Thread Adam Maas
If they're using K/M or M42 lenses in manual for exposures longer than 
about 1/2 second, I found the D's meter to underexpose. It gets less 
accurate when there's little light.


-Adam


Rick Womer wrote:


Why would an ist D underexpose only when in manual
mode?

(I'm toying with bidding for one on eBay that
reportedly has this problem).

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Re: Enabled: world's smallest 35mm SLR

2006-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/06, Unca Mikey, discombobulated, unleashed:

I thought I would come out of lurk mode long enough to show off my 
new toy, what I believe to be the world's smallest full-frame 35mm 
SLR.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/uncamikey/101750740/

That is the ugliest thing I have seen in a long while!




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RE: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Bob W
  Hey! I live in a floodplain! 
  
  This is brought home to me quite regularly when I walk 
 along the side 
  of the river when there's a very high tide lapping over the berm - 
  which is at the height of the 1st floor windows of the 
 nearest houses...
  
  I hope this thing works:
  http://wwp.greenwichengland.co.uk/tourism/barrier.htm
  
  Bob
 
 It's been used a total of 30-odd times, of which 14 are in 
 the last five years.  Does that tell you anything?
 

I know - I've seen it. One of these days the water will get smart, and go
round it.

When the gates are up it's quite eerie on the river. The water is flat calm,
with nothing moving. Very strange atmosphere.

Bob



Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/2/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Peradventure, you did some additional compositions that you'd share?

Ack - you wanna see the damned contacts??




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Re: OT - PESO - Farm and Copse

2006-02-19 Thread Cotty
I'm blushing. Seriously, thanks for the plaudits.





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Re: Enabled: world's smallest 35mm SLR

2006-02-19 Thread Adam Maas

Unca Mikey wrote:

I thought I would come out of lurk mode long enough to show off my new 
toy, what I believe to be the world's smallest full-frame 35mm SLR.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/uncamikey/101750740/

I have had the *ist about two years now, and love it.  After I saw the 
reports from Mark Lindamood and others that the DA 40mm will work on 
35mm (despite what Pentax says), I knew I had to get one eventually.  
It arrived from Adorama on Friday.  My Flickr photostream shows how 
this body/lens can fit into my pocket, and a couple of test shots that 
clearly show no vignetting.


40mm is a lovely focal length -- I can understand why it was so 
popular on some rangefinders.


*UncaMikey



It's small, but my MX with a 50mm f2 is smaller (And the 40mm M would be 
tiny)


-Adam



Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Thibouille
Interrested?
Got the latest one and there are quite a number of lenses tested.
There's discussion about this on dpreview forum but if you wish I
could scan the sheets?

Of course, comments are in french but could be still useful.

So, will I scan?
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Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Rick Womer
Yes, please!  (ou, oui s'il vous plait!)

Rick

--- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interrested?
 Got the latest one and there are quite a number of
 lenses tested.
 There's discussion about this on dpreview forum but
 if you wish I
 could scan the sheets?
 
 Of course, comments are in french but could be still
 useful.
 
 So, will I scan?
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Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk

On 2006-02-19, at 22:45, Thibouille wrote:


So, will I scan?


Yes, please be so good for us :-)

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Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Mishka
you will.

best,
mishka

On 2/19/06, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, will I scan?
 --
 Thibouille



Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


On 2006-02-19, at 22:45, Thibouille wrote:


So, will I scan?


Yes, please be so good for us :-)



Excuse me for being a bringdown and all.

But can anyone say copyright?

Bob



Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Mishka
you mean fair use?

best,
mishka

On 2/19/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But can anyone say copyright?

 Bob





Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Mishka wrote:


you mean fair use?

best,
mishka



Fair use is quoting a small portion of an article for the purposes of  
critique or review.  The only fair use exemption for complete  
articles is narrowly defined for bona fide educational institutions.


Copying and distributing a complete article, or other copyright  
protected work, is a violation of copyright law, even if no financial  
gain is involved.


I live by the copyrights on my works, so it really bothers me to see  
copyright treated in a cavalier manner, particularly on a photography  
list.


What's wrong with those interested getting their own copies of the  
magazine so the authors can make their livings?


Bob



Re: ist D question

2006-02-19 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 01:14:14PM -0800, Rick Womer wrote:
 Why would an ist D underexpose only when in manual
 mode?
 
 (I'm toying with bidding for one on eBay that
 reportedly has this problem).
 
 Rick

It probably wouldn't.   But it's quite possible that, if
the user is trying to use the green button trick to meter
with older pre-A lenses stopped down to small apertures,
that the camera is being asked to meter at a light level
that falls outside the specifications of the meter cell.
Would that lead to overexposure or to underexposure?



RE: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Jens Bladt
If it's legal to put them on the web it woluid be very nice :-)
Regards

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 19. februar 2006 22:46
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images


Interrested?
Got the latest one and there are quite a number of lenses tested.
There's discussion about this on dpreview forum but if you wish I
could scan the sheets?

Of course, comments are in french but could be still useful.

So, will I scan?
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Diane Arbus in BCN

2006-02-19 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
If any of you is going to visit Barcelona until mid
May, there is a big exhibit of Diane Arbus work
('Diane Arbus Revelations').
It is showed in CaixaForum building and the entrance
is free.
I have visited it today and it is highly recommendable.



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RE: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Jens Bladt
You might put them in a secret place that requires a pasword. It's easy to
make a pdf-file with a pass word.
You might call it somethin cryptic - and let us know :_))

Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 19. februar 2006 23:34
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images


you mean fair use?

best,
mishka

On 2/19/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But can anyone say copyright?

 Bob



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Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread John Francis

It would be legal for Thibouille to retype just the
numeric ratings from the lens tests.  But scanning the
pages, or retyping the opinions  comments (except for
brief excerpts for the purpose of a critique) is not.


On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 11:50:44PM +0100, Jens Bladt wrote:
 If it's legal to put them on the web it woluid be very nice :-)
 Regards
 
 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 19. februar 2006 22:46
 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Emne: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images
 
 
 Interrested?
 Got the latest one and there are quite a number of lenses tested.
 There's discussion about this on dpreview forum but if you wish I
 could scan the sheets?
 
 Of course, comments are in french but could be still useful.
 
 So, will I scan?
 --
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Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread John Francis

I regard that as even worse than just openly publishing them -
it's a tacit admission that you know you're doing something wrong.


On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 11:53:10PM +0100, Jens Bladt wrote:
 You might put them in a secret place that requires a pasword. It's easy to
 make a pdf-file with a pass word.
 You might call it somethin cryptic - and let us know :_))
 
 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Mishka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 19. februar 2006 23:34
 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Emne: Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images
 
 
 you mean fair use?
 
 best,
 mishka
 
 On 2/19/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  But can anyone say copyright?
 
  Bob
 
 
 
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RE: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I bough it last Friday (I can found it quite easily in
Barcelona).
I am glad that they liked 'my' A50/1.4, even more than
the FA also tested. They also liked 'my' FA35/2 and
18-55 kit lens.

By the way, what does 'dénicher' mean? (in the A50/1.4
text)


 --- Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Interrested?
 Got the latest one and there are quite a number of
 lenses tested.
 There's discussion about this on dpreview forum but
 if you wish I
 could scan the sheets?
 
 Of course, comments are in french but could be still
 useful.
 
 So, will I scan?
 --
 Thibouille
 --
 *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
 
 




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Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:


If it's legal to put them on the web it woluid be very nice :-)
Regards



It's legal for Chasseur d'Image to put them up on their web site.   
Anyone else would need their permission to do so. Do they normally  
post their tests on their site?


Bob



Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:56 PM, John Francis wrote:


It would be legal for Thibouille to retype just the
numeric ratings from the lens tests.  But scanning the
pages, or retyping the opinions  comments (except for
brief excerpts for the purpose of a critique) is not.



Correct.

But if you like the work this magazine does, you should support it by  
buying the magazine.  Doing proper lab tests costs money, and the  
only way they can make money and do more tests is if you buy the  
magazine.  I've seen Chasseur on some US news stands, and I am sure  
you can order copies.


Bob



Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:57 PM, John Francis wrote:


I regard that as even worse than just openly publishing them -
it's a tacit admission that you know you're doing something wrong.



Yep.

Bob



Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Rick Womer
Good point Bob.

Problem is, I've never been able to find Chasseurs
d'Images in Philly; I've only ever found it in Europe.

Maybe he could email us the tables off-list?

Rick

--- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Feb 19, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Sylwester Pietrzyk
 wrote:
 
  On 2006-02-19, at 22:45, Thibouille wrote:
 
  So, will I scan?
 
  Yes, please be so good for us :-)
 
 
 Excuse me for being a bringdown and all.
 
 But can anyone say copyright?
 
 Bob
 
 


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Re: Jazz Portraits

2006-02-19 Thread derbyc
Quoting Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  From today's Kansas City Star...
 
 http://www.kansascity.com/multimedia/kansascity/archive/starmag/ 
 Starmag_02192006_md/index.htm
 
 The full article will be available on the Web for a limited time:
 
 http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/living/13899769.htm
 
 (c) 2006 Kansas City Star and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
 



These are wonderful. Large format, but spontaneous.

D



Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread Gonz



John Forbes wrote:

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:01:36 -, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Most of the most highly regarded scientists, politicians, and heros 
of  all sorts prior to the 20th century and many in the 20th century  
believed in God.


These include Isaac Newton, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln... I'm  
sure we could keep going.


Many consider themselves too enlightened for that now.  I wonder what  
changed?


Tom C.



It's called Enlightenment.


You mean Endarkenment.



John








Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images

2006-02-19 Thread Bob Shell


On Feb 19, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


Good point Bob.


Having been in the photo magazine biz for a long time I know the  
frustrations of doing good lab tests.  Back in the early 90s when we  
were doing PhotoPRO magazine we did some real lens tests.  Cost a  
bundle, and got us mostly grief from manufacturers when their stuff  
scored poorly.




Problem is, I've never been able to find Chasseurs
d'Images in Philly; I've only ever found it in Europe.


I don't know about Philly, but I've seen it in NYC and I think in  
some other US cities.  I'd look for it at news stands in French  
neighborhoods, if there are any in Philly.  I used to pick it up and  
read it now and then.




Maybe he could email us the tables off-list?


Just the tables might qualify under fair use.

Bob



Re: Best Photo Ever

2006-02-19 Thread John Coyle
From those I've posted, either as PESO's or in the PUG, this is a really old 

one that I still think is one of my best non-people shots:
http://pug.komkon.org/99oct/Catch.htm

Now I'll have to go find a people one...

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: Poll: Best Photo Ever



My Anti-Valentines day post the other day got me thinking (a rare
occurance to be sure).  There, I posted this photo:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5806/2203/1600/haley.jpg

which happens to be my favourite photo of mine.  It's a close race,
actually, because until I took that one a couple of years ago, this
one was my fave:

http://urbancaravan.com/graphics/asian_girl.jpg

It's still a close call, but I think the first one is currently my 
favourite.


Now, given the general mediocrity of the thousands and thousand of
frames that I've taken over the years, picking a favourite, or a few
favourites may not be such a huge problem g.  How about you?  Do you
have a favourite among the many photos you've taken?  If so, can you
post it?

I think it might be interesting to see how personal favourites might
differ from what I perceive as the style of that photographer.

cheers,
frank

--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





Re: IR filters

2006-02-19 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looks like there is
 http://www.geocities.com/cokinfiltersystem/id277.htm

Thanks, used the number to look it up on cokin site
http://www.cokin.fr/cokin-data/composants2/pages-filtres/filtre-007st.html

thanks a bunch
Kind regards

Kevin

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Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.



Re: ist D question

2006-02-19 Thread Adam Maas

John Francis wrote:


On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 01:14:14PM -0800, Rick Womer wrote:
 


Why would an ist D underexpose only when in manual
mode?

(I'm toying with bidding for one on eBay that
reportedly has this problem).

Rick
   



It probably wouldn't.   But it's quite possible that, if
the user is trying to use the green button trick to meter
with older pre-A lenses stopped down to small apertures,
that the camera is being asked to meter at a light level
that falls outside the specifications of the meter cell.
Would that lead to overexposure or to underexposure?
 



Underexposure, from experience.

-Adam



Re: Religon, Christ vs. the Other Guy

2006-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On 2/19/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You must immediately change your surname to Meursault, and go outside.

Sadly, I'm probably more of a Clamence.  We're both ex-lawyers;  I
became a bike messenger, he became a drunk, we're both
judge-penitents.

cheers,
frank


--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Enabled: world's smallest 35mm SLR

2006-02-19 Thread keith_w

Cotty wrote:


On 19/2/06, Unca Mikey, discombobulated, unleashed:


I thought I would come out of lurk mode long enough to show off my 
new toy, what I believe to be the world's smallest full-frame 35mm 
SLR.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/uncamikey/101750740/




That is the ugliest thing I have seen in a long while!


Cheers,
  Cotty


I broke into paroxysms of laughter, Cot, ol' friend!
On the other hand, I didn't' know it was so SMALL!

H. keith



Re: SMC DA 12-24/4 - request for RAW files

2006-02-19 Thread Jarek Dabrowski

Godfrey DiGiorgi napisał(a):
I don't buy Sigma lenses due to the problems I've had with Sigma in  the 
past. The DA12-24 would be my choice of those two, but I  personally 
prefer the DA14/2.8.


Here's a page with DA14 examples:
  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/14mm-examples/


Thanks - I've seen these photos already - but I still want it wider than 
14mm. I used to have 20mm on 35mm film, and I always wanted to go wider 
with my DS, so probably I'll stick with Sigma (today a Polish Pentax 
mailing-list member posted some examples (raw and jpg) from his lens, 
and they rather convinced me to buy it.


Redars,
Jerry



Re: SMC DA 12-24/4 - request for RAW files

2006-02-19 Thread keith_w

Jarek Dabrowski wrote:


Godfrey DiGiorgi napisał(a):


Why does that not surprise me?

(Just kidding, G. ol' pal...
I found it impossible to pass up a good straight line!)

[...]

keith



Re: Enabled: world's smallest 35mm SLR

2006-02-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I checked the dimensions and it seems that the MX and some other M-series
bodies are smaller than the *ist.  The biggest issue is the depth of the
camera bodies as far as being able to slip them into a pocket.  I've been
able to slide the MX into a large shirt pocket.  Can't do that with the
*ist because it's thicker.  The *ist is quite a bit lighter, however.

Shel


  Unca Mikey said
  
  
I thought I would come out of lurk mode long enough 
to show off my new toy, what I believe to be the world's 
smallest full-frame 35mm SLR.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/uncamikey/101750740/


 [Original Message]
 From: keith_w 

 I didn't' know it was so SMALL!

 H. keith




Fair use, intimidation, and copyright (was Re: Pentax lenses tests from Chasseur d'Images)

2006-02-19 Thread Mark Erickson
This thread reminds me of something that happened a few years ago.  Klaus
Schroiff of the Photozone website (www.photozone.de) used to have a
wonderful compilation of lens tests.  His tables included ratings from Color
Foto, Popular Photography, and Chasseur d'Image magazines and included
pretty much every Pentax lens that was current at the time and most of the
third party offerings.  Fair use or not, I believe that one or more of the
magazines threatened him into pulling the list off of the web.  So it looks
to me like the photography magazines are as tweaky about their product
(lens ratings) as the lens makers are about theirs (the lenses themselves).

By the way, I think that fair use is a concept specific to United States
copyright law and legal precedent.  What are the rules in Europe?

--Mark



Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE

2006-02-19 Thread frank theriault
On 2/18/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip. While incidents were recorded  with
 almost all makes, they were most common with Audi, due apparently to
 the close placement of accelerator and brake  pedals and perhaps to a
 large  number of numb owners.

I agree with that, Paul.  Pedal placement, stupid drivers who don't
want to admit to their insurance companies that they made a mistake,
and a third factor:

A litigious society, contingency fees, and lawyers who will take
anything to trial if they see dollar signs at the end of the road.

cheers,
frank



--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: SMC DA 12-24/4 - request for RAW files

2006-02-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Feb 19, 2006, at 4:26 PM, keith_w wrote:


Jarek Dabrowski wrote:


Godfrey DiGiorgi napisał(a):


Why does that not surprise me?

(Just kidding, G. ol' pal...
I found it impossible to pass up a good straight line!)


If I knew what it meant, would I be offended? ;-)

Godfrey



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