Re: PESO - Jump
The psychiatrist held up the first Rorschach plate and asked the patient to comment. Sex! was the immediate response. Plate Two got the same response -- as did all the others. The frustrated doctor then drew a wiggly line of a piece of paper. What about that? he asked. Sex. A straight line, two dots, a circle and a square all were met by cries of SEX! SEX! Finally the exasperated doctor said, You're quite obviously obsessed by sex. ME! ME! Obsessed? You're the one drawing all these filthy pictures! Don Tom C wrote: Bob, Thanks for the clarification. I agree that nakedness need not = sexuality. I'm also pointing out that there is another collection of people, not quite as vocal, but with the power of the law behind them, that are lurking out there to pounce on people that they develop a desire to prosecute. Those are the ones that scare me, because guilt or innocence is not even the issue. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Jump Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:16:22 +0100 Hi Tom, no - I'm not implying that, and I apologise if my posts read that way. But I do think that a lot of people are being cowed by the censorious and over-cautious. The overwhelming majority of people everywhere love watching children play and enjoy themselves, with or without clothes on, in the most innocent way, and think nothing of it. However there is a small but vocal group of people who are always ready to see wickedness and rush in to cover things up. These are the people who equate nakedness with sexuality, and who also think all sexuality is wrong. Unless the rest of us stand up to them and say no to their stupidity they will win, and they will impose their warped ideas on us again and again because we let them. Just think of the Victorians covering up table legs. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 20 July 2006 20:49 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Jump I've noticed that your words and others, seem to imply that those who had a problem with the photo being posted without a warning (not necessarialy the photo itself), have a perverse or distorted view of the subject. That was not the case. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
P. J. Alling wrote: When, JFK announced the program to send a man to the moon and return him safely in 10 years, it happened. Not long ago NASA was asked how long it would take to return to the moon. The reply was 20 years. Makes you wonder what's happened to NASA. Well no not really. If we gave the current space budget to Burt Rutan. We'd probably have space colonies with scheduled commercial flights in 10 years. From my jaundiced view, the difference is that the entire nation isn't behind that sort of effort now. They're too busy getting their half-caf decaf mocha chino bullshit. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
Definitely office-friendly ;-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/5199068.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Doing perspective corrections with software is cheaper than buying a shift lens or a view camera. After reading your post last night I had a go correcting a shot of mine with converging verticals using PTGui. After placing a few control points to define the verticals horizontal's, here's what I came up with: (Warning: these shot contain NO nudity, youthful or otherwise) Original http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PCT/PCT_000.jpg Attempt #1 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PCT/PCT_001.jpg Attempt #2 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PCT/PCT_002.jpg Attempt #3 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/PCT/PCT_003.jpg Cheers, Dave At 12:35 PM 21/07/2006, Brian Walters wrote: Thanks for the tips, Paul. Here's another attempt. http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/IMGP2987.jpg I think the centre vertcal is more or less straight now. I tried stretching the image vertically but (of course) the whole image stretched, not just the tower and it didn't look right. There is a small amount of vertical stretching on the tower through the use of the distort tool. I really like the potential of this sort of adjustment for architectural subjects so a lot more practising is called for. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 06.15 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: PESO - Jump How do you know your pictures of your naked children are not ending up on the hard drive of somebody lurking on the list that's a pedophile? Gives one pause for thought, huh? It would if one actually thought I did, and I do each time. A very few pictures I have will never be published for that reason. But there is always a limit. The image we are discussing here is less problematic, in my view, than some pictures from US beauty contests for children. Of course, they do have clothes on but there are lots of food for maniacs there. I´d rather see a naked child than one that has been put into sexy clothes by her parents, but I guess that is just me. Enough is enough. I said in an early message that maybe I should have warned you, as I don´t want anyone to get into trouble. I still think it is strange and may forget in the future, so maybe those who are offended do like William Robb it will be fine. Don´t look before you know that it is safe. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
:-) Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 08.15 skrev Don Williams: The psychiatrist held up the first Rorschach plate and asked the patient to comment. Sex! was the immediate response. Plate Two got the same response -- as did all the others. The frustrated doctor then drew a wiggly line of a piece of paper. What about that? he asked. Sex. A straight line, two dots, a circle and a square all were met by cries of SEX! SEX! Finally the exasperated doctor said, You're quite obviously obsessed by sex. ME! ME! Obsessed? You're the one drawing all these filthy pictures! Don Tom C wrote: Bob, Thanks for the clarification. I agree that nakedness need not = sexuality. I'm also pointing out that there is another collection of people, not quite as vocal, but with the power of the law behind them, that are lurking out there to pounce on people that they develop a desire to prosecute. Those are the ones that scare me, because guilt or innocence is not even the issue. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Jump Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:16:22 +0100 Hi Tom, no - I'm not implying that, and I apologise if my posts read that way. But I do think that a lot of people are being cowed by the censorious and over-cautious. The overwhelming majority of people everywhere love watching children play and enjoy themselves, with or without clothes on, in the most innocent way, and think nothing of it. However there is a small but vocal group of people who are always ready to see wickedness and rush in to cover things up. These are the people who equate nakedness with sexuality, and who also think all sexuality is wrong. Unless the rest of us stand up to them and say no to their stupidity they will win, and they will impose their warped ideas on us again and again because we let them. Just think of the Victorians covering up table legs. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 20 July 2006 20:49 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Jump I've noticed that your words and others, seem to imply that those who had a problem with the photo being posted without a warning (not necessarialy the photo itself), have a perverse or distorted view of the subject. That was not the case. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
WTB: 18-55 or 24-90
Subject line says it all. I need either lens for my brother's wedding this mid-August. Anyone willing to part with their wide-zoom lens? Thanks, John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS: K 50mm f1.2
For Sale: K 50mm f1.2 Super-nice lens to have around. It's in near-mint condition, with just some very minor dust specks inside the lens. Focus is smooth, aperture blades are perfect, and there's not a scratch on the paint. $250 US, obo. Paypal preferred. Will ship anywhere, though you'll have to give me an address to get the cost. I doubt shipping in the US will be more than $10. I promise I will only charge for shipping what the actual cost is. I'd really like to see this lens go to a good home. Thanks, John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/21 Fri AM 04:15:46 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: PESO - Jump How do you know your pictures of your naked children are not ending up on the hard drive of somebody lurking on the list that's a pedophile? Gives one pause for thought, huh? It would if one actually thought William Robb Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Hmmm. Think I'll quit while I'm behind. I'm going cross-eyed with this image :) I think I need a drink. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't think it's your imagination, it does look fatter at the top. It's better to have a little convergence than a little divergence when correcting for perspective. Don Williams wrote: Is it my imagination, or does the belfry now look fatter at the top? Don Brian Walters wrote: Thanks for the tips, Paul. Here's another attempt. http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/IMGP2987.jpg I think the centre vertcal is more or less straight now. I tried stretching the image vertically but (of course) the whole image stretched, not just the tower and it didn't look right. There is a small amount of vertical stretching on the tower through the use of the distort tool. I really like the potential of this sort of adjustment for architectural subjects so a lot more practising is called for. -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sighting
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/21 Fri AM 05:06:15 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Sighting In a message dated 7/20/2006 10:04:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I recently photographed this phenomenon, it could easily have been an entry in the What is it?, but with all of this talk of Moon landings and alien abductions, (alright, I'll admit, I started that last one), this seemed more appropriate as a PESO. Yes it was manipulated a bit but not that heavily really. So here is for all you UFO enthusiasts... http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_sighting.html Tech. Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds, some K mount lens, either the M85 f2.0 or the Vivitar 35-85 f2.8. Not sure at this point. == Looks like ceiling lights with green and blue halos. Marnie aka Doe ;-) No, no, it's an invasion fleet. That's the only time they fly in formation like that. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Hi David Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Doing perspective corrections with software is cheaper than buying a shift lens or a view camera. A shift lens? Does anyone still make them? Not that I could ever afford one, much less justify the purchase After reading your post last night I had a go correcting a shot of mine with converging verticals using PTGui. After placing a few control points to define the verticals horizontal's, here's what I came up with: With this sort of image I think the converging verticals add to the impact of the subject, so I prefer the original. I think software adjustment is probably better suited to complete buildings, such as the old church in my original post (but I've got a lot of learning and practice to do). One thing that seems desirable is to have a lot of space around the main image so that the distorted edges can be cropped out. With my latest attempt I needed to do a fair bit of cloning around the boundary to fill the rectangular frame. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
G'day Brian At 04:32 PM 21/07/2006, Brian Walters wrote: A shift lens? Does anyone still make them? Not that I could ever afford one, much less justify the purchase Canon still lists them. Hartblei make some for 35mm as well I think. With this sort of image I think the converging verticals add to the impact of the subject, so I prefer the original. Thanks. So do I :-) I did it mainly as a test to see how the panorama stitching software (PTGui) performed doing perspective correction. I think software adjustment is probably better suited to complete buildings, such as the old church in my original post (but I've got a lot of learning and practice to do). One thing that seems desirable is to have a lot of space around the main image so that the distorted edges can be cropped out. With my latest attempt I needed to do a fair bit of cloning around the boundary to fill the rectangular frame. I agree. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K100d
Hi Gang, Just noticed that Pentax US has the K100D manual available on-line: http://www.pentaximaging.com/customer_care/manuals_literature Bob Rapp -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
So are you fully roasted over in sunny old England? Wife noted it was 110 degrees F down in the tube the other day, and the British Open looks burned out. Regards, Bob S. On 7/21/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely office-friendly ;-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/5199068.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
On 7/20/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Aliens can fly to the moon, why can't we? Precisely. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Looks great. Good work. Paul On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:30 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Thanks for the tips, Paul. Here's another attempt. http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/IMGP2987.jpg I think the centre vertcal is more or less straight now. I tried stretching the image vertically but (of course) the whole image stretched, not just the tower and it didn't look right. There is a small amount of vertical stretching on the tower through the use of the distort tool. I really like the potential of this sort of adjustment for architectural subjects so a lot more practising is called for. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nice shot and generally good work. But the center vertical isn't quite straight. That throws it off if you're going for perfect alignment. If elements has the Edit/Free Transform tool use this to rotate the image before you correct the perspective. You might find that the perspective tool works better once the rotation is correct. If not, you can use distort. If you don't have the free transform tool, do a rotation of about 1 degree before correcting perspective. You want to make that centerline perfectly vertical. If you need to stretch it to eliminate a squat look, use the image size tool and change onlly the vertical dimension a small amount. Experiment until it looks right. Paul -- Original message -- From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Don I'm using Photoshop Elements 1. I tried the Perspective tool but couldn't get it to look right so I ended up using the Distort tool. Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia Quoting Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What program did you sue to make the correction? Don John Francis wrote: It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically in the process of correcting the perspective. --- --- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net --- --- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
And the PPBrowser/PPLab 3 as well. BTW, now PentaxPhotoLab 3 is a RAW converter you can truly use. Silkypix came to rescue and now edges are rendered well, without those odd sawteeth the previous releases did. I had the chance to try a (alpha? beta?) release of that software at Pentax Italy premises, and it works well. Dario - Original Message - From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: K100d Hi Gang, Just noticed that Pentax US has the K100D manual available on-line: http://www.pentaximaging.com/customer_care/manuals_literature Bob Rapp -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)
On 20/07/06, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But...is it possible to correct perspecive without distorting other parts of the picture? I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the building doors are squashed vertically. Is there another way to do it? http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/perspective/#CorrectionusingPhotoshop -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
David Savage wrote: G'day Brian At 04:32 PM 21/07/2006, Brian Walters wrote: A shift lens? Does anyone still make them? Not that I could ever afford one, much less justify the purchase Canon still lists them. Hartblei make some for 35mm as well I think. Nikon does as well. Hartblei's are MF lenses adapted to 35mm mounts. Dave -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Enabled with Epson P-4000 image tank
It arrived today! The screen is even better than I'd hoped. I need to sit down with the manual, but so far I've played with it a little and I really like what I see. It's a little big, but that screen is really worth it. I'd be happy to answer any questions about the device as I learn more about it. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB: 18-55 or 24-90
I don't know how much you want to pay but www.keh.com has a used copy of the 18-55mm DA lenses of $94. They have a very good reputation. I've dealt with them and was satisfied. John Celio wrote: Subject line says it all. I need either lens for my brother's wedding this mid-August. Anyone willing to part with their wide-zoom lens? Thanks, John Celio -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
On 21.07.2006, at 14:14 , Dario Bonazza wrote: BTW, now PentaxPhotoLab 3 is a RAW converter you can truly use. Silkypix came to rescue and now edges are rendered well, without those odd sawteeth the previous releases did. I had the chance to try a (alpha? beta?) release of that software at Pentax Italy premises, and it works well. And I think it is worth noting that it has convert to DNG option (prelude to things to come? ;-) as well as noise and chromatic aberrations correction tools :-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sighting
Manipulated a bit? Would be interested in details. They sure are in a precise, light fixture, formation. :) Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently photographed this phenomenon, it could easily have been an entry in the What is it?, but with all of this talk of Moon landings and alien abductions, (alright, I'll admit, I started that last one), this seemed more appropriate as a PESO. Yes it was manipulated a bit but not that heavily really. So here is for all you UFO enthusiasts... http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_sighting.html Tech. Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds, some K mount lens, either the M85 f2.0 or the Vivitar 35-85 f2.8. Not sure at this point. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
On 7/21/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely office-friendly ;-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/5199068.stm Mickey the macaw? g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
I took a few pictures of Svinhufvud's* summer cottage yesterday. Its on the way to our land some 50 kms from here. I squeezed the lower part of the picture with Perspective instead of expanding the top and it works, in this case at least, better than when I tried the top. *One of Finland's National heroes -- the first Head of State (Regent) and later President -- called, literally, Swinehead. He was a good man if anyone cares to know that. Don Adam Maas wrote: David Savage wrote: G'day Brian At 04:32 PM 21/07/2006, Brian Walters wrote: A shift lens? Does anyone still make them? Not that I could ever afford one, much less justify the purchase Canon still lists them. Hartblei make some for 35mm as well I think. Nikon does as well. Hartblei's are MF lenses adapted to 35mm mounts. Dave -Adam -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Sighting
On 7/21/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently photographed this phenomenon, it could easily have been an entry in the What is it?, but with all of this talk of Moon landings and alien abductions, (alright, I'll admit, I started that last one), this seemed more appropriate as a PESO. Yes it was manipulated a bit but not that heavily really. So here is for all you UFO enthusiasts... http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_sighting.html Those are the guys who escort me up the the Mother Ship every night. Of course, Peter, now they'll have to kill you... cheers, frank ps: but seriously, cool photo!! -ft -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/21 Fri PM 12:59:41 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly? On 7/21/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely office-friendly ;-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/5199068.stm Mickey the macaw? g http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/4416140.stm On the other hand, this sounds like an ex-parrot. 8-((( - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
Had a light, short shower of rain yesterday. First for five weeks. Temps constantly in the high twenties or more for all that time. More usually in the mid/high teens here. I'm in a cool [8-)] part of the country Water rationing beckons for Southern folk. m From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/21 Fri PM 12:04:33 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly? So are you fully roasted over in sunny old England? Wife noted it was 110 degrees F down in the tube the other day, and the British Open looks burned out. Regards, Bob S. On 7/21/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely office-friendly ;-) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/5199068.stm -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)
On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:15, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 20/07/06, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But...is it possible to correct perspecive without distorting other parts of the picture? I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the building doors are squashed vertically. Is there another way to do it? http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/perspective/ #CorrectionusingPhotoshop I find the free transform tool to be befuddling at best... But what about the tools in CS2 for perspective adjustment? (Filter, Distort, Lens Correction). Or have those already been discussed and dismissed? -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: K100d And the PPBrowser/PPLab 3 as well. Would you kindly supply a link for that? I couldn't seem to find it. Thanks William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
- Original Message - From: DagT Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Enough is enough. I said in an early message that maybe I should have warned you, as I don´t want anyone to get into trouble. I still think it is strange and may forget in the future, so maybe those who are offended do like William Robb it will be fine. Don´t look before you know that it is safe. Hey fuckface, your pictures don't offend me. They don't affect me in any way at all, other than to inspire another yawn. After spending a couple of decades printing pictures almost exactly the same as your crap, I have a pretty jaundiced view of pictures of naked kids. I just don't want them showing up on my computer by accident because of the child porn laws in my country. And I will continue to not look at your pictures, not because I am offended by them, but because I have seen the same kind of crap often enough that I see no merit in it. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
Op Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:34:14 +0200 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: K100d And the PPBrowser/PPLab 3 as well. Would you kindly supply a link for that? I couldn't seem to find it. Thanks http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/K100D_PhotoBrowser_Laboratory3%20Manual.pdf You might have to change the %20 into a space... -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/K100D_PhotoBrowser_Laboratory3%20Manual.pdf William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: K100d And the PPBrowser/PPLab 3 as well. Would you kindly supply a link for that? I couldn't seem to find it. Thanks William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
On 7/21/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza Subject: Re: K100d And the PPBrowser/PPLab 3 as well. Would you kindly supply a link for that? I couldn't seem to find it. Thanks William Robb http://www.pentaximaging.com/customer_care/manuals_literature Under Cameras Digital SLR, second link from the bottom titled K100D (Photo Browser/Laboratory 3) Manual Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
On 7/21/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: DagT Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Enough is enough. I said in an early message that maybe I should have warned you, as I don´t want anyone to get into trouble. I still think it is strange and may forget in the future, so maybe those who are offended do like William Robb it will be fine. Don´t look before you know that it is safe. Hey fuckface, your pictures don't offend me. They don't affect me in any way at all, other than to inspire another yawn. After spending a couple of decades printing pictures almost exactly the same as your crap, I have a pretty jaundiced view of pictures of naked kids. I just don't want them showing up on my computer by accident because of the child porn laws in my country. And I will continue to not look at your pictures, not because I am offended by them, but because I have seen the same kind of crap often enough that I see no merit in it. William Robb I want whatever Bill's on. I could do with a bit more pep. :-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
On Jul 21, 2006, at 6:49 AM, David Savage wrote: I want whatever Bill's on. I could do with a bit more pep. try bitter pills. or viagra. ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
On 7/21/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, this sounds like an ex-parrot. 8-((( He's pining for the fjords... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
On 7/21/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: When, JFK announced the program to send a man to the moon and return him safely in 10 years, it happened. Not long ago NASA was asked how long it would take to return to the moon. The reply was 20 years. Makes you wonder what's happened to NASA. Well no not really. If we gave the current space budget to Burt Rutan. We'd probably have space colonies with scheduled commercial flights in 10 years. From my jaundiced view, the difference is that the entire nation isn't behind that sort of effort now. They're too busy getting their half-caf decaf mocha chino bullshit. Let's not forget, we (The West, including Canada) were in a cold war against the Evil Empire of the Soviet Union. Getting to the moon first was an important propaganda tool; it proved that Truth, Justice and the American Way would prevail. America was stung badly by early Soviet space successes: first Sputnik then Gagarin. Those Russian coups were, I believe, the impetus behind JFK's pronouncement about getting a man to the moon and back by the end of the decade. Of course, his assassination only served to inspire the nation to make his promise good. The other thing to consider is that there was a military component to the space race. The fear was that if the evil Russians got to the moon first, they'd militarize it. If the Americans didn't get there first, no telling what those filthy commies would do with the moon. It certainly is no co-incidence that the space programme was largely a military effort... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: PESO - Jump I want whatever Bill's on. I could do with a bit more pep. :-) Yesterday, the boys were shooting airnails at me, I only got hit in the head once. WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
- Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: K100d http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/K100D_PhotoBrowser_Laboratory3%20Manual.pdf Dang, I was hoping from Dario's message that they had the software available online. Thanks Peter. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
I wrote: And the PPBrowser/PPLab 3 as well. Should be: And the PPBrowser/PPLab 3 manual as well. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
My book soon to be published
I mentioned in an earlier post that I was off the list because I was completing a project. The project ( a book on The Niagara Escarpment) is complete and due for publication October 1st... Amazon is advertising pre-release information... Check it out here if you are interested... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1550289349/104-8557464-5277510? redirect=truev=glancen=283155 To check out our website go to sonpix.com I'm the funny looking guy with the hat holding the istd and the 300f4.5 Thanks Vic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
What is a bit strange is that the manual for K10d is not there. Either it is being delayed or Pentax is using these steps to create some type of hype around K100d. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
That's pretty cool. Some forethought there! Tom C. From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:57:10 -0600 - Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing Hi Frank. I was eight years old at the time. I remember watching it on an old BW set as well. It was a Packard-Bell 19, we didn't have color TV yet. We changed the channels with a pair of pliers. I recall my Dad telling us kids to sit down and be quiet because this was important. We watched the first moonwalk past my dad's camera, which he had put on a tripod in front of the TV so as to take pictures of the goings on. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- Sighting
That's a cool shot Peter. I would crop out the far left one unless it has some military significance. It reminds me a little of this one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2721079 :-) Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO -- Sighting Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:14:17 -0400 I recently photographed this phenomenon, it could easily have been an entry in the What is it?, but with all of this talk of Moon landings and alien abductions, (alright, I'll admit, I started that last one), this seemed more appropriate as a PESO. Yes it was manipulated a bit but not that heavily really. So here is for all you UFO enthusiasts... http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_sighting.html Tech. Info.: Pentax *ist-Ds, some K mount lens, either the M85 f2.0 or the Vivitar 35-85 f2.8. Not sure at this point. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
On 21/7/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Water rationing beckons for Southern folk. Mercifully not yet. We have a hosepipe ban so guess whose job it is to fill a watering can a dozen times every evening?! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. Point taken. What if your computer has a cache of the link to an image? Where does the madness end? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
On 21/7/06, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: So are you fully roasted over in sunny old England? Wife noted it was 110 degrees F down in the tube the other day, and the British Open looks burned out. Gatwick Airport (south of London) recorded a record temperature on Wednesday of 36.3 deg C and that was too sticky for me. I'm fine up to 30 but anything over is silly. My ideal would be 25. Today we're about 30 but the humidity went up with moist air drifting up from the continent. At least it was 'dry' heat on Weds. Now it's just revolting. I was working today and I spent as much time as possible sitting in the Discovery with my shirt sleeves offered up to the air con vents. I want to retire by the sea when the time comes. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
K10d is expected for October/November. Do you mean K110d? Dario - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: Re: K100d What is a bit strange is that the manual for K10d is not there. Either it is being delayed or Pentax is using these steps to create some type of hype around K100d. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
Cotty wrote: Mercifully not yet. We have a hosepipe ban so guess whose job it is to fill a watering can a dozen times every evening?! You must be really hydrated then! Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
It ends when you're in jail and your life and reputation has been ruined by some psycopath in a position of power. It happens all to often... maybe not by the accidental viewing of a picture, but by someone making false accusations and then going on a witchhunt. Constructing circumstantial evidence is child's play. Tom C. From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:37:13 +0100 William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. Point taken. What if your computer has a cache of the link to an image? Where does the madness end? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
Coincidentally, possibly, yesterday was also the 20th anniversary of Viking 1 landing on Mars. Tom C. From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:58:01 -0400 On 7/21/06, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: When, JFK announced the program to send a man to the moon and return him safely in 10 years, it happened. Not long ago NASA was asked how long it would take to return to the moon. The reply was 20 years. Makes you wonder what's happened to NASA. Well no not really. If we gave the current space budget to Burt Rutan. We'd probably have space colonies with scheduled commercial flights in 10 years. From my jaundiced view, the difference is that the entire nation isn't behind that sort of effort now. They're too busy getting their half-caf decaf mocha chino bullshit. Let's not forget, we (The West, including Canada) were in a cold war against the Evil Empire of the Soviet Union. Getting to the moon first was an important propaganda tool; it proved that Truth, Justice and the American Way would prevail. America was stung badly by early Soviet space successes: first Sputnik then Gagarin. Those Russian coups were, I believe, the impetus behind JFK's pronouncement about getting a man to the moon and back by the end of the decade. Of course, his assassination only served to inspire the nation to make his promise good. The other thing to consider is that there was a military component to the space race. The fear was that if the evil Russians got to the moon first, they'd militarize it. If the Americans didn't get there first, no telling what those filthy commies would do with the moon. It certainly is no co-incidence that the space programme was largely a military effort... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 15.26 skrev William Robb: Hey fuckface, your pictures don't offend me. They don't affect me in any way at all, other than to inspire another yawn. After spending a couple of decades printing pictures almost exactly the same as your crap, I have a pretty jaundiced view of pictures of naked kids. I just don't want them showing up on my computer by accident because of the child porn laws in my country. And I will continue to not look at your pictures, not because I am offended by them, but because I have seen the same kind of crap often enough that I see no merit in it. Ooohhh! :-D DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: My book soon to be published
Congratulations Vic! I hope the book is a big success. :-) Godfrey On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Vic MacBournie wrote: I mentioned in an earlier post that I was off the list because I was completing a project. The project ( a book on The Niagara Escarpment) is complete and due for publication October 1st... Amazon is advertising pre-release information... Check it out here if you are interested... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1550289349/104-8557464-5277510? redirect=truev=glancen=283155 To check out our website go to sonpix.com I'm the funny looking guy with the hat holding the istd and the 300f4.5 Thanks Vic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: My book soon to be published
Yes, sounds quite interesting! There's columnar basalt cliff right at the base of our rural subdivision that I call The Escarpment. I have yet to get a picture of it that I'm totally satisfied with. Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: My book soon to be published Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:55:41 -0700 Congratulations Vic! I hope the book is a big success. :-) Godfrey On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Vic MacBournie wrote: I mentioned in an earlier post that I was off the list because I was completing a project. The project ( a book on The Niagara Escarpment) is complete and due for publication October 1st... Amazon is advertising pre-release information... Check it out here if you are interested... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1550289349/104-8557464-5277510? redirect=truev=glancen=283155 To check out our website go to sonpix.com I'm the funny looking guy with the hat holding the istd and the 300f4.5 Thanks Vic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:07 AM, DagT wrote: Ooohhh! :-D I know, Dag. It's nice to know that WW hasn't been offended. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Psychopath? They don't have to be crazy, just politically ambitious. Tom C wrote: It ends when you're in jail and your life and reputation has been ruined by some psycopath in a position of power. It happens all to often... maybe not by the accidental viewing of a picture, but by someone making false accusations and then going on a witchhunt. Constructing circumstantial evidence is child's play. Tom C. From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:37:13 +0100 William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. Point taken. What if your computer has a cache of the link to an image? Where does the madness end? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
On Jul 21, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: What is a bit strange is that the manual for K10d is not there. Why is it strange? The K100 is due for release now. The 10Mpixel body isn't due for release for several months yet. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: My book soon to be published
Great news, Vic. I look forward to reading it. Paul On Jul 21, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Congratulations Vic! I hope the book is a big success. :-) Godfrey On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Vic MacBournie wrote: I mentioned in an earlier post that I was off the list because I was completing a project. The project ( a book on The Niagara Escarpment) is complete and due for publication October 1st... Amazon is advertising pre-release information... Check it out here if you are interested... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1550289349/104-8557464-5277510? redirect=truev=glancen=283155 To check out our website go to sonpix.com I'm the funny looking guy with the hat holding the istd and the 300f4.5 Thanks Vic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma 70-200 2.8?
I have the Sigma EX 70-200 F2.8. Everyone who has it regards it as a very sharp lens, for much less than Pentax's offering in this category. Check Photodo. There is a new, digital version, with some closer focusing capability. I don't know yet whether it is available in Pentax mount. The one I have, though, is so heavy that I no longer carry it with me when I travel. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
L O L ! V B G Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Jump The psychiatrist held up the first Rorschach plate and asked the patient to comment. Sex! was the immediate response. Plate Two got the same response -- as did all the others. The frustrated doctor then drew a wiggly line of a piece of paper. What about that? he asked. Sex. A straight line, two dots, a circle and a square all were met by cries of SEX! SEX! Finally the exasperated doctor said, You're quite obviously obsessed by sex. ME! ME! Obsessed? You're the one drawing all these filthy pictures! Don Tom C wrote: Bob, Thanks for the clarification. I agree that nakedness need not = sexuality. I'm also pointing out that there is another collection of people, not quite as vocal, but with the power of the law behind them, that are lurking out there to pounce on people that they develop a desire to prosecute. Those are the ones that scare me, because guilt or innocence is not even the issue. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Jump Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:16:22 +0100 Hi Tom, no - I'm not implying that, and I apologise if my posts read that way. But I do think that a lot of people are being cowed by the censorious and over-cautious. The overwhelming majority of people everywhere love watching children play and enjoy themselves, with or without clothes on, in the most innocent way, and think nothing of it. However there is a small but vocal group of people who are always ready to see wickedness and rush in to cover things up. These are the people who equate nakedness with sexuality, and who also think all sexuality is wrong. Unless the rest of us stand up to them and say no to their stupidity they will win, and they will impose their warped ideas on us again and again because we let them. Just think of the Victorians covering up table legs. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: 20 July 2006 20:49 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Jump I've noticed that your words and others, seem to imply that those who had a problem with the photo being posted without a warning (not necessarialy the photo itself), have a perverse or distorted view of the subject. That was not the case. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Those by Canon Nikon are Tilt Shift lenses. Much more useful than a shift lens. Pentax made a shift lens you'll occasionally see one for sale. Not worth it IMHO. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment David Savage wrote: G'day Brian At 04:32 PM 21/07/2006, Brian Walters wrote: A shift lens? Does anyone still make them? Not that I could ever afford one, much less justify the purchase Canon still lists them. Hartblei make some for 35mm as well I think. Nikon does as well. Hartblei's are MF lenses adapted to 35mm mounts. Dave -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Pair
Very well done but I think its mis-titled. Should be A pair for Knarf. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - A Pair In a message dated 7/19/2006 10:18:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know, I said last birds for awhile...if we could define awhile as a very short period of time, I complied grin. It's just that these two were hanging around during my morning walk this morning. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3204a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce == Bruce, no, no, no. No pictures of Canadian Geese. ;-) Actually, I can't figure out why they are still called that, it should be Californian Geese by now. It's an okay shot, but not up to the others. And, well, it's Canadian Geese. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma 70-200 2.8?
I have to smile about the weight. I had the Tokina 80-200/2.8 and one of the reasons for me to get rid of it was weight. So now I have a much more portable/holdable A 70-210/4 and a Sigma 100-300/4 EX that always goes on a monopod. So if I am traveling, the Sigma stays home. Those big, fast zooms are not light! -- Bruce Friday, July 21, 2006, 9:32:28 AM, you wrote: JT I have the Sigma EX 70-200 F2.8. Everyone who has it regards it as a JT very sharp lens, for much less than Pentax's offering in this category. JT Check Photodo. JT There is a new, digital version, with some closer focusing capability. I JT don't know yet whether it is available in Pentax mount. JT The one I have, though, is so heavy that I no longer carry it with me JT when I travel. JT Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 18.20 skrev Godfrey DiGiorgi: On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:07 AM, DagT wrote: Ooohhh! :-D I know, Dag. It's nice to know that WW hasn't been offended. Yes, it sure is. D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 15.30 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. If you can be prosecuted for finding something by accident on an internet link you should stay off the internet. Either that, or you are being more than a little bit paranoid. Here´s a nice little story: My wife had a rare family name when I met her. I think there were 28 people in Norway, and probably in the world, with that name. So, you should think it was safe to make a search on that name on the internet. The third hit on Altavista was, however, to a pornographic web site featuring schoolgirls. So, if that happened at an office in the US or in Canada I could be arrested? Wow! Oh, and by the way, the explanation was probably simple as one of the persons with that name is an HTML programmer, and one of the modules he has made may have been used by the website. Maybe he could have been arrested as well? DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Pair
grin you are entirely right about the title. It should have been dedicated to Frank! -- Bruce Friday, July 21, 2006, 9:31:14 AM, you wrote: KW Very well done but I think its mis-titled. KW Should be A pair for Knarf. KW Kenneth Waller KW - Original Message - KW From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW Subject: Re: PESO - A Pair In a message dated 7/19/2006 10:18:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know, I said last birds for awhile...if we could define awhile as a very short period of time, I complied grin. It's just that these two were hanging around during my morning walk this morning. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3204a.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce == Bruce, no, no, no. No pictures of Canadian Geese. ;-) Actually, I can't figure out why they are still called that, it should be Californian Geese by now. It's an okay shot, but not up to the others. And, well, it's Canadian Geese. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
That's true. The fact is most pyschopath and sociopaths are not recognized as such until it's far too late and their damage has been done. They are typically, on the surface very likeable people, but behind the scenes, in ways unnoticed by the public at large and many of their own acquaintances even, they leave a path of destruction in people's personal or professional lives. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:30:11 -0400 Psychopath? They don't have to be crazy, just politically ambitious. Tom C wrote: It ends when you're in jail and your life and reputation has been ruined by some psycopath in a position of power. It happens all to often... maybe not by the accidental viewing of a picture, but by someone making false accusations and then going on a witchhunt. Constructing circumstantial evidence is child's play. Tom C. From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:37:13 +0100 William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. Point taken. What if your computer has a cache of the link to an image? Where does the madness end? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
On 7/21/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true. The fact is most pyschopath and sociopaths are not recognized as such until it's far too late and their damage has been done. They are typically, on the surface very likeable people, but behind the scenes, in ways unnoticed by the public at large and many of their own acquaintances even, they leave a path of destruction in people's personal or professional lives. Luckily, I've never had that veneer of civility... cheers, frank, I may be a jerk, but I'm no sociopath -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Politics is made up of two words: Poli, which is Greek for many, and tics, which are bloodsucking insects. (not mine) Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:30:11 -0400 Psychopath? They don't have to be crazy, just politically ambitious. Tom C wrote: It ends when you're in jail and your life and reputation has been ruined by some psycopath in a position of power. It happens all to often... maybe not by the accidental viewing of a picture, but by someone making false accusations and then going on a witchhunt. Constructing circumstantial evidence is child's play. Tom C. From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:37:13 +0100 William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. Point taken. What if your computer has a cache of the link to an image? Where does the madness end? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 10:15:17PM +1000, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 20/07/06, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But...is it possible to correct perspecive without distorting other parts of the picture? I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the building doors are squashed vertically. Is there another way to do it? http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/perspective/#CorrectionusingPhotoshop Or, as Paul suggested, simply stretch the image vertically after you've applied the perspective adjustment transform. The problem is that the perspective correction only stretches the image horizontally (by different amounts depending on how far up the image you are). This means that the (un-stretched) verticals appear squashed by comparison. To remove the squashed appearance you need to stretch the image in the vertical direction by some intermediate amount; not as much as the top of the image is stretched horizontally. A rough rule of thumb is to stretch it so that the expansion matches that applied at eye level by the perspective adjustment, but that's only a guideline - I find doing it by inspection is about as good, and involves far less calculation. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
OK then, lets start a thread about avoiding psychopaths .-) My answer is that you can´t and you shouldn´t. I have met at least two of them. One of them threatened to take my to court for doing my job (I rejected his patent application). The story was in the magazines related to his technical field and well known in that field. Should I have hidden under a stone and let him have his way? No, it would means not doing what I believed was right. Would it help if I did so? No, he hated me already, so he would have found another way to hurt me. My giving up would just have encouraged him, and the people who new the case would hate me because I gave up (he was not very popular in his field). That would probably put me out of business later. But of course, around here we have a rule that if the case against you proves to be unjustified, the other part has to pay all your costs. That is discouraging for some of the madmen. DagT Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 17.56 skrev Tom C: It ends when you're in jail and your life and reputation has been ruined by some psycopath in a position of power. It happens all to often... maybe not by the accidental viewing of a picture, but by someone making false accusations and then going on a witchhunt. Constructing circumstantial evidence is child's play. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
I note, with some amusement, that not only does the K100D have a scene mode specifically for taking photographs of your pets, but that in addition the icon for this selection can be set to a representation of either a cat or a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
On 7/21/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I note, with some amusement, that not only does the K100D have a scene mode specifically for taking photographs of your pets, but that in addition the icon for this selection can be set to a representation of either a cat or a dog. Patches the cat will be pleased... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
On 21/7/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I note, with some amusement, that not only does the K100D have a scene mode specifically for taking photographs of your pets, but that in addition the icon for this selection can be set to a representation of either a cat or a dog. Not much use for my halibut. Eric the halibut. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 21 July 2006 13:05 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly? So are you fully roasted over in sunny old England? Wife noted it was 110 degrees F down in the tube the other day, and the British Open looks burned out. Some of us have had to loosen our ties a little, yes. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100d
It won't be available for free without buying a new camera. -Aaron -Original Message- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: K100d Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:16 am Size: 368 bytes To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: K100d http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/manual/K100D_PhotoBrowser_Laboratory3%20Manual.pdf Dang, I was hoping from Dario's message that they had the software available online. Thanks Peter. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Jump
That's true. The fact is most pyschopath and sociopaths are not recognized as such until it's far too late and their damage has been done. They are typically, on the surface very likeable people, but behind the scenes, in ways unnoticed by the public at large and many of their own acquaintances even, they leave a path of destruction in people's personal or professional lives. So no different from politicians, then! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
in addition the icon for this selection can be set to a representation of either a cat or a dog What no Canada Goose icon? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The camera for cat (or dog) haters? I note, with some amusement, that not only does the K100D have a scene mode specifically for taking photographs of your pets, but that in addition the icon for this selection can be set to a representation of either a cat or a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: My book soon to be published
Congratulations! -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vic MacBournie Sent: 21 July 2006 15:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: My book soon to be published I mentioned in an earlier post that I was off the list because I was completing a project. The project ( a book on The Niagara Escarpment) is complete and due for publication October 1st... Amazon is advertising pre-release information... Check it out here if you are interested... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1550289349/104-8557464-5277510? redirect=truev=glancen=283155 To check out our website go to sonpix.com I'm the funny looking guy with the hat holding the istd and the 300f4.5 Thanks Vic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
On 7/21/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What no Canada Goose icon? Those are on the Pentax hunting scopes... cheers, frank, despiser of Canada (not Canadian) Geese -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
DagT, ridiculing the laws of another country, even when they deserve to be ridiculed, does not make them less applicable to inhabitants of those countries. Our child pornography laws over-reach and have terrible consequences for innocent people who run afoul of them. I think they are poorly thought out and badly implemented. Despite my disagreement with them, I am not immune from prosecution. A large portion of this list are from North America and are subject to the same idiotic laws. In deference to these people, can you please post a content warning with your links? Recently, a man spent several months in jail on child pornography charges. He was turned in by a photofinisher (who is obligated under the law to report anything vaguely resembling child porn ) for a photograph of him kissing his infant's belly. He was held without bail because a seizure and search of his computer turned up photos of a relative's children frolicking in a sprinkler in the backyard -- not even saved pictures, but cached ones, because the relative had made an online gallery and sent him the link. Of course, when it went to trial the case was thrown out, but the man lost months of his life. Yes, I live in a country with stupid laws. But I would be more stupid to ignore them and put myself at risk. I am no martyr and I don't want to miss out on any part of my son's life because I wasn't careful. -Aaron -Original Message- From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:55 pm Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 15.30 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. If you can be prosecuted for finding something by accident on an internet link you should stay off the internet. Either that, or you are being more than a little bit paranoid. Here´s a nice little story: My wife had a rare family name when I met her. I think there were 28 people in Norway, and probably in the world, with that name. So, you should think it was safe to make a search on that name on the internet. The third hit on Altavista was, however, to a pornographic web site featuring schoolgirls. So, if that happened at an office in the US or in Canada I could be arrested? Wow! Oh, and by the way, the explanation was probably simple as one of the persons with that name is an HTML programmer, and one of the modules he has made may have been used by the website. Maybe he could have been arrested as well? DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
That is only for the Canadian version... Friday, July 21, 2006, 11:09:45 AM, you wrote: KW What no Canada Goose icon? KW Kenneth Waller KW - Original Message - KW From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] KW Subject: The camera for cat (or dog) haters? in addition the icon for this selection can be set to a representation of either a cat or a dog I note, with some amusement, that not only does the K100D have a scene mode specifically for taking photographs of your pets, but that in addition the icon for this selection can be set to a representation of either a cat or a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
On 7/21/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/21/06, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What no Canada Goose icon? Those are on the Pentax hunting scopes... cheers, frank, despiser of Canada (not Canadian) Geese HAR! Thanks, Frank. That's the first time I've laughed out loud all day. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The camera for cat (or dog) haters?
On 7/21/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAR! Thanks, Frank. That's the first time I've laughed out loud all day. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it! vbg cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Well stated Aaron. Tom C. From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:30:00 -0400 DagT, ridiculing the laws of another country, even when they deserve to be ridiculed, does not make them less applicable to inhabitants of those countries. Our child pornography laws over-reach and have terrible consequences for innocent people who run afoul of them. I think they are poorly thought out and badly implemented. Despite my disagreement with them, I am not immune from prosecution. A large portion of this list are from North America and are subject to the same idiotic laws. In deference to these people, can you please post a content warning with your links? Recently, a man spent several months in jail on child pornography charges. He was turned in by a photofinisher (who is obligated under the law to report anything vaguely resembling child porn ) for a photograph of him kissing his infant's belly. He was held without bail because a seizure and search of his computer turned up photos of a relative's children frolicking in a sprinkler in the backyard -- not even saved pictures, but cached ones, because the relative had made an online gallery and sent him the link. Of course, when it went to trial the case was thrown out, but the man lost months of his life. Yes, I live in a country with stupid laws. But I would be more stupid to ignore them and put myself at risk. I am no martyr and I don't want to miss out on any part of my son's life because I wasn't careful. -Aaron -Original Message- From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:55 pm Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 15.30 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. If you can be prosecuted for finding something by accident on an internet link you should stay off the internet. Either that, or you are being more than a little bit paranoid. Here´s a nice little story: My wife had a rare family name when I met her. I think there were 28 people in Norway, and probably in the world, with that name. So, you should think it was safe to make a search on that name on the internet. The third hit on Altavista was, however, to a pornographic web site featuring schoolgirls. So, if that happened at an office in the US or in Canada I could be arrested? Wow! Oh, and by the way, the explanation was probably simple as one of the persons with that name is an HTML programmer, and one of the modules he has made may have been used by the website. Maybe he could have been arrested as well? DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: My book soon to be published
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Re: OT - That a Parrot on the Telly?
In a message dated 7/21/2006 11:28:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So are you fully roasted over in sunny old England? Wife noted it was 110 degrees F down in the tube the other day, and the British Open looks burned out. Some of us have had to loosen our ties a little, yes. Bob Such British reserve. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma 70-200 2.8?
On 7/20/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good/not good? I'm not sure which one it is so I'm hoping they haven't made more than one AF version or this question is crap ;) CW dreaming of faster glass I just tried John Monroe's when I was down in Austin, and now I want one. I took this with it: http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/1639468/1/80042804 That's a full-size crop at f/2.8. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Girls Mountain Worthington Glacier
Taken last summer outside Valdez, Alaska. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4710846 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
SV: ZX-5n
Officailly from whom? I just oredered some super 8 film for underwater photography. Kodak discontinued Kodakchrome 40 last summer, but 60 ASA Ektachrome super 8 and 16mm is alledgedly alive and well. What film is dead - Kodak, Fuji? 35mm? 16mm ? 8 mm? 120 film? 110? 127? What? Perhaps canvas, paint and brushes are dead as well, are they ? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Cotty Sendt: 19. juli 2006 00:47 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: ZX-5n On 18/7/06, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. It's official: film is dead. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 07/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 07/20/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Pair
On 7/21/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: grin you are entirely right about the title. It should have been dedicated to Frank! Look at them, walking about in the slime and the muck and the mire - how typical!! Still, a good shot, Bruce. vbg cheers, frank, who would never let personal biases get in the way of honest critique -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Girls Mountain Worthington Glacier
Imposing photogenic mountain. Foreground a little darker than I might choose, but doesn't seriously detract. Nice scene. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken last summer outside Valdez, Alaska. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4710846 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Girls Mountain Worthington Glacie
On 7/21/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken last summer outside Valdez, Alaska. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4710846 Where are the girls? -frank, who usually has a sharp eye for these things. ps: nice pic! -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
I have acknowledges a couple of times that I probably should have warned you, but I do see little understanding from some that these things may occur. Also I as a foreigner find that I´m held responsible for the effects of stupid laws in other countries. I´m sitting here at home in my own country, acting within the laws of my country. Of course I may try to take some cultural differences into consideration, like trying not to discuss political or religious issues (like Lebanon and Israel) or showing drawings of Muhammad, but things happen when the foreign rules are introduced being opposed to the local juridical logic, one may forget. It happens all ways, especially when religion and politics is introduced. For my part I hate it when some middle state theorist starts talking about religiously related north European court cases, but at least know that I should have shut up :-) Of course it is strange that the most important country in inventing the internet is one of the countries where using it is dangerous, but ... this whole thing reminds me of a story about rental cares in the US, with a sticker in the rear mirror says remember that what you see in the mirror is behind you. I don´t know if it´s true, but it fits with the impression we get on the outside sometimes. The advice to citizens in some countries should be: Don´t follow any link if you do not know the content in advance. DagT Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 20.30 skrev Aaron Reynolds: DagT, ridiculing the laws of another country, even when they deserve to be ridiculed, does not make them less applicable to inhabitants of those countries. Our child pornography laws over-reach and have terrible consequences for innocent people who run afoul of them. I think they are poorly thought out and badly implemented. Despite my disagreement with them, I am not immune from prosecution. A large portion of this list are from North America and are subject to the same idiotic laws. In deference to these people, can you please post a content warning with your links? Recently, a man spent several months in jail on child pornography charges. He was turned in by a photofinisher (who is obligated under the law to report anything vaguely resembling child porn ) for a photograph of him kissing his infant's belly. He was held without bail because a seizure and search of his computer turned up photos of a relative's children frolicking in a sprinkler in the backyard -- not even saved pictures, but cached ones, because the relative had made an online gallery and sent him the link. Of course, when it went to trial the case was thrown out, but the man lost months of his life. Yes, I live in a country with stupid laws. But I would be more stupid to ignore them and put myself at risk. I am no martyr and I don't want to miss out on any part of my son's life because I wasn't careful. -Aaron -Original Message- From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: PESO - Jump Date: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:55 pm Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Den 21. jul. 2006 kl. 15.30 skrev William Robb: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: PESO - Jump Why do they need to be naked? Paedophiles sexualise children. End of story. _Any_ child photo is fair game. May be end of story in your mind, ut you could try reading the rest of the story. Child porn laws sexualize children, and therin lies the problem for people who innocently click on an internet link. If you can be prosecuted for finding something by accident on an internet link you should stay off the internet. Either that, or you are being more than a little bit paranoid. Here´s a nice little story: My wife had a rare family name when I met her. I think there were 28 people in Norway, and probably in the world, with that name. So, you should think it was safe to make a search on that name on the internet. The third hit on Altavista was, however, to a pornographic web site featuring schoolgirls. So, if that happened at an office in the US or in Canada I could be arrested? Wow! Oh, and by the way, the explanation was probably simple as one of the persons with that name is an HTML programmer, and one of the modules he has made may have been used by the website. Maybe he could have been arrested as well? DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - A Pair
On 7/19/06, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah I was about to ask what they were. So I assume they are Canadian Geese? NO!! They are Canada Geese. That's the name of the species, Canada Goose or Branta Canadensis for you scientific types. Canadian geese are any geese who happen to live up here. In fact, most Canada Geese live in the US; many more than live up here. They were named Canada Geese by Americans, looking to slander our fine country. I hate Canada Geese, who foul our parks and our beaches, and chase little kids and sometimes their parents who are doing nothing more than minding their business sitting at a picnic table holding a cheese sandwich. Bastards. Sorry if I let personal issues and experiences colour my feelings for these vermin. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Girls Mountain Worthington Glacie
How did I know you'd ask that question? frank theriault wrote: On 7/21/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken last summer outside Valdez, Alaska. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4710846 Where are the girls? -frank, who usually has a sharp eye for these things. ps: nice pic! -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
