Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Aug 15, 2006, at 8:25 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: These little snippets of information and guessing are just driving me nuts. Grr. I'm OK with it because I can't afford one either way. If Aaron's enthusiasm is justified, I might have to get a real job... - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/08/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. Which kind of leaves; output resolution and dynamic range. And a two sensitivity level sensor has already been done by someone (can't remember who) so that leaves output resolution. Is it using the movable sensor to obtain a higher (4x say - 2x linear) output resolution? But I'm pretty sure that was already suggested by someone. Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Breakfast At Bette's
Bette's is an old fashioned diner located in West Berkeley. It's mostly a breakfast joint - open at 6:00am, closes around 2:30. The place is famous for its buttermilk pancakes and for its wonderful potato pancakes. By 6:30am the place is filled and on weekends the line is out the door. Just a little slice o' life here in the East Bay http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/bkfast_at_bette's.html istDS, K18/3.5 @ 4.0, ISO 800, 1/25 sec exposure Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. DagT DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 14/8/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, FF at the price point of D200 :-))) Finally Cotty could eat his hat as he swore in the past AFAIR :-))) Har! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/08/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Fra: Eric Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 15/08/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Eric. Negative colour film on 6x7 gives you very good dynamic range and no burnt out highlights. But, as I said, it was only a guess. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/08/06, Eric Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Yeah, he dosen't have a tripod so he gets a workout :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15.08.06, at 24:18 , Adam Maas wrote: Oly shakes the filter in front of the sensor. I'm not sure if Sony does that, or shakes the entire assembly (Sony could do the latter because of the Anti-Shake unit). Here are details: http://www.olympus-esystem.com/dea/technology/usf/index.html It seems that SSWF is just dedicated glass at the front of low pass filter. Speaking of anti-dust systems - it seems that the one used in Sony Alpha 100 is pretty useless: http://www.ephotozine.com/equipment/tests/testdetail.cfm?test_id=468 And SR according to Dpreview works effectively for up to 2 stops just like in original Minolta's AS not 3.5 as Sony is advertising for its improved SSS system. Just like with other things from Sony - very good marketing, but technology is far from beeing ahead as it was in glorious Sony's past. BTW - my friend has destroyed his genuine 1GB Sony Memorystick. Here is what he found after dismanting it: http://nasdwoje.e9.pl/pictures/MS.jpg ;-) -- Best regards Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Okay, lets see, something you get with 6x7 and not 35mm Mmmm 1) Slow 2) Heavy 3) Huge mirror slap 4) Interchangeable prisms 5) Limited shutter speed range 6) BIG images 7) Large DN (down to film though) ;-) Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Featherstone Sent: 15 August 2006 09:42 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On 15/08/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
What if Pentax says well, it's 10Mpix APS-C, but on a tripod, it becomes a 30Mpix 24x36 (I haven't checked the numbers, they are most probably awfully wrong, and the SR platform most probably can't move that far away). My vote goes to Patrice above. Some way of using the sensor for full frame and APS-C. That way you can have proper wide angle as on the 67 but telephoto lenses do not need to weigh a ton as they do on the 67. Another clue is that other manufacturers are using the same sensor. In that case it could be something completely different such as a leopard skin body Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Probably BW out of the camera. I would consider that no big deal, since BW conversion in PhotoShop actually gives one more control over the grayscale than would in-camera conversion. Paul On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 15/08/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Peter Fairweather wrote: What if Pentax says well, it's 10Mpix APS-C, but on a tripod, it becomes a 30Mpix 24x36 (I haven't checked the numbers, they are most probably awfully wrong, and the SR platform most probably can't move that far away). My vote goes to Patrice above. Some way of using the sensor for full frame and APS-C. That way you can have proper wide angle as on the 67 but telephoto lenses do not need to weigh a ton as they do on the 67. I think the best you can have is proper wide angle as on the 135, given the lens and the mount diameter. Unless it shoots diagonally across, in which case you may have some benefit from mounting 67 lenses (no weight saving though). Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Aug 15, 2006, at 6:15 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Probably BW out of the camera. I would consider that no big deal, since BW conversion in PhotoShop actually gives one more control over the grayscale than would in-camera conversion. I already negatoried this one once. And the moving sensor stuff, uh, no to that as well. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:58 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: Yeah, he dosen't have a tripod so he gets a workout :-) HAR! Yes, Rob wins, the new camera is 85 pounds. -Aaron p.s. kidding! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Aug 15, 2006, at 5:04 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: BTW - my friend has destroyed his genuine 1GB Sony Memorystick. Here is what he found after dismanting it: http://nasdwoje.e9.pl/pictures/MS.jpg Isn't the Samsung stuff what's inside everything good? It's what's in the flash-based iPods... -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Alarm! I think Aaron is a disguised Canon marketing guy going to attack the Pentax users market! If next year a new Canon comes to the market carrying all the features he tappe from our Pentax-loving minds, don't be surprised! Groeten, Vic Aaron Reynolds wrote: I have just learned something about it that pretty much seals the deal -- I'll be buying it if I have to sell a kidney to do it. It addresses my most basic complaint about digital. It's a feature that's so much of a no-brainer, and yet as far as I know not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. And unless I've missed some posts, no one has even speculated about it here. Or even said gee, I wish it could do this. Brothers, I kid you not -- I may be selling my 67. Naturally, I have to see it in action to see if it matches up to what the advantage should be in theory. But if it does... holy crap. Mid-September we're going to be seeing some forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. Unless, of course, I've been fed a complete load of manure. Which is entirely possible. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Good. On Aug 15, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 15, 2006, at 6:15 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Probably BW out of the camera. I would consider that no big deal, since BW conversion in PhotoShop actually gives one more control over the grayscale than would in-camera conversion. I already negatoried this one once. And the moving sensor stuff, uh, no to that as well. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
How about this: Sensor-based focus / focus-assist / critical focus. Ala Contax with film, it would now be practical on digital. Imagine: set the camera on Infinity and let the sensor do the rest. Or Let the camera do a predictable range focus (much faster) and then let the body finish by adjusting the sensor accordingly. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
My 67 is manual focus only. In fact, the DS2 is the first AF body I've owned. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:08 am Size: 666 bytes To: PDML@pdml.net How about this: Sensor-based focus / focus-assist / critical focus. Ala Contax with film, it would now be practical on digital. Imagine: set the camera on Infinity and let the sensor do the rest. Or Let the camera do a predictable range focus (much faster) and then let the body finish by adjusting the sensor accordingly. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Aug 15, 2006, at 5:04 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: BTW - my friend has destroyed his genuine 1GB Sony Memorystick. Here is what he found after dismanting it: http://nasdwoje.e9.pl/pictures/MS.jpg Isn't the Samsung stuff what's inside everything good? It's what's in the flash-based iPods... -Aaron Well, Samsung IS one of the major flash vendors. Sony doesn't make flash memory. I'd be shocked if there had been anything else inside. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
This remark makes me rethink those comments already posted about shifting the sensor to increase resolution or to gain a larger format. Does anybody remember the oscillating sensor? It was a technique used in scientific applications in the early days of digital capture, when sensors had too little resolution to be useful for quality work. If the antishake facility were used to oscillate the sensor around a one pixel diameter circuit, while making 6 captures as it crossed each virtual photosite (for want of a better description) then each photosite could, after the six captures were composited, display true RGB colour instead of interpolated RGB colour. Maybe. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 11:36 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: I hope Aaron is enjoying himself :o) I bet he is, this thread has been a monumental waste of EMF. I'm certainly not holding my breath in anticipation. Oh, now that's not very nice. I'm not yanking your chain! It really is something that would make me reconsider the division between what work I do on medium format film and what work I do on digital. It's that good. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
If you eliminate the possibilities that are disadvantageous, then two very interesting possibilities remain. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Day Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 7:14 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Okay, lets see, something you get with 6x7 and not 35mm Mmmm 1) Slow 2) Heavy 3) Huge mirror slap 4) Interchangeable prisms 5) Limited shutter speed range 6) BIG images 7) Large DN (down to film though) ;-) Richard -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
It is full frame? Anthony Farr wrote: This remark makes me rethink those comments already posted about shifting the sensor to increase resolution or to gain a larger format. Does anybody remember the oscillating sensor? It was a technique used in scientific applications in the early days of digital capture, when sensors had too little resolution to be useful for quality work. If the antishake facility were used to oscillate the sensor around a one pixel diameter circuit, while making 6 captures as it crossed each virtual photosite (for want of a better description) then each photosite could, after the six captures were composited, display true RGB colour instead of interpolated RGB colour. Maybe. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 11:36 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: I hope Aaron is enjoying himself :o) I bet he is, this thread has been a monumental waste of EMF. I'm certainly not holding my breath in anticipation. Oh, now that's not very nice. I'm not yanking your chain! It really is something that would make me reconsider the division between what work I do on medium format film and what work I do on digital. It's that good. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Maybe if I say it's not something involving a moving sensor again people will believe me. ;) -Aaron -Original Message- From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:03 am Size: 1K To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net This remark makes me rethink those comments already posted about shifting the sensor to increase resolution or to gain a larger format. Does anybody remember the oscillating sensor? It was a technique used in scientific applications in the early days of digital capture, when sensors had too little resolution to be useful for quality work. If the antishake facility were used to oscillate the sensor around a one pixel diameter circuit, while making 6 captures as it crossed each virtual photosite (for want of a better description) then each photosite could, after the six captures were composited, display true RGB colour instead of interpolated RGB colour. Maybe. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 11:36 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: I hope Aaron is enjoying himself :o) I bet he is, this thread has been a monumental waste of EMF. I'm certainly not holding my breath in anticipation. Oh, now that's not very nice. I'm not yanking your chain! It really is something that would make me reconsider the division between what work I do on medium format film and what work I do on digital. It's that good. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
No -- if full frame could move me from 67 to a DSLR, I would have bought someone else's a long time ago. -Aaron -Original Message- From: Robert and Leigh Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:23 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net It is full frame? Anthony Farr wrote: This remark makes me rethink those comments already posted about shifting the sensor to increase resolution or to gain a larger format. Does anybody remember the oscillating sensor? It was a technique used in scientific applications in the early days of digital capture, when sensors had too little resolution to be useful for quality work. If the antishake facility were used to oscillate the sensor around a one pixel diameter circuit, while making 6 captures as it crossed each virtual photosite (for want of a better description) then each photosite could, after the six captures were composited, display true RGB colour instead of interpolated RGB colour. Maybe. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 11:36 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: I hope Aaron is enjoying himself :o) I bet he is, this thread has been a monumental waste of EMF. I'm certainly not holding my breath in anticipation. Oh, now that's not very nice. I'm not yanking your chain! It really is something that would make me reconsider the division between what work I do on medium format film and what work I do on digital. It's that good. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Police Badges - second set
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: yesterday and looks good. In a few capricious moments this morning I built a web page for the second set... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/ Very nice Godders, very clean-looking and detailed enough. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. Too bad, because Pentax has a patent on a Digital camera having a tilting/swinging mechanism US7064789 .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Aha, they've put a 2 kg lead weight inside the body! Brilliant! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Breakfast At Bette's
Page not found Sounds like a neat place, though Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bette's is an old fashioned diner located in West Berkeley. It's mostly a breakfast joint - open at 6:00am, closes around 2:30. The place is famous for its buttermilk pancakes and for its wonderful potato pancakes. By 6:30am the place is filled and on weekends the line is out the door. Just a little slice o' life here in the East Bay http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/bkfast_at_bette's.html istDS, K18/3.5 @ 4.0, ISO 800, 1/25 sec exposure Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I don't say that it is anything. This idea would only create an extra 2 pixels of linear resolution either way, hardly enough to get to 24mm x 36mm. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert and Leigh Woerner Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 10:13 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body It is full frame? Anthony Farr wrote: This remark makes me rethink those comments already posted about shifting the sensor to increase resolution or to gain a larger format. Does anybody remember the oscillating sensor? It was a technique used in scientific applications in the early days of digital capture, when sensors had too little resolution to be useful for quality work. If the antishake facility were used to oscillate the sensor around a one pixel diameter circuit, while making 6 captures as it crossed each virtual photosite (for want of a better description) then each photosite could, after the six captures were composited, display true RGB colour instead of interpolated RGB colour. Maybe. Regards, Anthony Farr -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). I haven't shot 35mm in a very long time, so I don't know where exactly that inference came from. -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Then I'm still hoping for some way to improve the dynamic range. DagT Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe if I say it's not something involving a moving sensor again people will believe me. ;) -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
That sounds batty. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Mark Roberts wrote: It means they vibrate the sensor at a frequency beyond the range of human hearing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/08/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). I haven't shot 35mm in a very long time, so I don't know where exactly that inference came from. That would be from my confused head. Sorry. Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Ok, I got that :-) I was just talking my way through a concept that someone might think is worthwhile. Interchangeable finders could be more immediately useful. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 10:44 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Maybe if I say it's not something involving a moving sensor again people will believe me. ;) -Aaron -Original Message- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Breakfast At Bette's
That was quick. It was there this afternoon now it's gone. Dave On 8/15/06, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Page not found Sounds like a neat place, though Shel Belinkoff wrote: Bette's is an old fashioned diner located in West Berkeley. It's mostly a breakfast joint - open at 6:00am, closes around 2:30. The place is famous for its buttermilk pancakes and for its wonderful potato pancakes. By 6:30am the place is filled and on weekends the line is out the door. Just a little slice o' life here in the East Bay http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/bkfast_at_bette's.html istDS, K18/3.5 @ 4.0, ISO 800, 1/25 sec exposure Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Here's something: US7084915 refers to a specially made CCD with the capability of reducing dark current in the sensor, and thus noise... .-) DagT Fra: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then I'm still hoping for some way to improve the dynamic range. DagT Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe if I say it's not something involving a moving sensor again people will believe me. ;) -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
That would make AF possibly even faster than any in-lens motor system and makes all the legacy glass have AF as well! The challenge I see is that, apart from wide angle lenses, the sensor wouldn't be able to move anything like far enough! Imagine a 200mm macro range! Richard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Collin R Brendemuehl Sent: 15 August 2006 12:08 To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body How about this: Sensor-based focus / focus-assist / critical focus. Ala Contax with film, it would now be practical on digital. Imagine: set the camera on Infinity and let the sensor do the rest. Or Let the camera do a predictable range focus (much faster) and then let the body finish by adjusting the sensor accordingly. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
That's easy: Expose accurately, shoot RAW and process with the PSCS2 RAW Converter. -- Original message -- From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then I'm still hoping for some way to improve the dynamic range. DagT Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe if I say it's not something involving a moving sensor again people will believe me. ;) -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 16/08/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's easy: Expose accurately, shoot RAW and process with the PSCS2 RAW Converter. When you see what a composite HDR image can acheive exosure range wise you'd not say what you just did :-) Imagine being able to shoot a scene comprising of deep shadow and bright sunlight areas and acheive a well balanaced image (and I'm not talking the sometime bizarre look that the Showows/highlight too acheives). -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Yes, I realize that much more is possible. But current capabilities aren't anywhere near as bad as some seem to think they are. -- Original message -- From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 16/08/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's easy: Expose accurately, shoot RAW and process with the PSCS2 RAW Converter. When you see what a composite HDR image can acheive exosure range wise you'd not say what you just did :-) Imagine being able to shoot a scene comprising of deep shadow and bright sunlight areas and acheive a well balanaced image (and I'm not talking the sometime bizarre look that the Showows/highlight too acheives). -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
And a funny one for those who are concerned about dust: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOCIDX=JP2004040652F=0QPN=JP2004040652 .-) Fra: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's something: US7084915 refers to a specially made CCD with the capability of reducing dark current in the sensor, and thus noise... .-) DagT Fra: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then I'm still hoping for some way to improve the dynamic range. DagT Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe if I say it's not something involving a moving sensor again people will believe me. ;) -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
That's a stupid idea IMO. Dave On 8/15/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a funny one for those who are concerned about dust: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOCIDX=JP2004040652F=0QPN=JP2004040652 .-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
It¨s probably interchangeable view finders ... Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af David Savage Sendt: 15. august 2006 16:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body That's a stupid idea IMO. Dave On 8/15/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a funny one for those who are concerned about dust: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOCIDX=JP2004040652F=0QPN=JP2004040 652 .-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 08/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 08/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Perhaps, but I doubt that would be enough to cause Aaron to think about giving up 6x7. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It¨s probably interchangeable view finders ... Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af David Savage Sendt: 15. august 2006 16:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body That's a stupid idea IMO. Dave On 8/15/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a funny one for those who are concerned about dust: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOCIDX=JP2004040652F=0QPN=JP2004040 652 .-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 08/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 08/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I only have one finder for my 67. -Aaron -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Date: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:47 am Size: 1K To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Perhaps, but I doubt that would be enough to cause Aaron to think about giving up 6x7. Paul -- Original message -- From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It¨s probably interchangeable view finders ... Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af David Savage Sendt: 15. august 2006 16:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body That's a stupid idea IMO. Dave On 8/15/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And a funny one for those who are concerned about dust: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOCIDX=JP2004040652F=0QPN=JP2004040 652 .-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 08/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 08/15/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Oh...my...God....
http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1721239forward=user Came across a thread at DPreview about this guys processing technique, and was astonished when I saw this. Those contributing to the thread seemed to think this is a good thing. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=19441771 He says he's going for a painting like effect I have to admit, with that in mind, some of it isn't too bad, but this is terrible. Be afraid folks, the plastic people are multiplying. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
That fails the not used on any existing DSLRS test, though. On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 06:15:32AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Probably BW out of the camera. I would consider that no big deal, since BW conversion in PhotoShop actually gives one more control over the grayscale than would in-camera conversion. Paul On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 15/08/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Which kind of leaves; output resolution and dynamic range. And a two sensitivity level sensor has already been done by someone (can't remember who) so that leaves output resolution. How about a 10 meg Fuji SR sensor. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms3pro/ Not likely although Fuji is supposed to have a new camera coming. Would they let Pentax steal their thunder? Powell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Something like?? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19601839 2006/8/15, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That fails the not used on any existing DSLRS test, though. On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 06:15:32AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Probably BW out of the camera. I would consider that no big deal, since BW conversion in PhotoShop actually gives one more control over the grayscale than would in-camera conversion. Paul On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 15/08/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Exept that he is wrong abolut the position of the anti aliasing filter... DagT Den 15. aug. 2006 kl. 18.49 skrev Thibouille: Something like?? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19601839 2006/8/15, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That fails the not used on any existing DSLRS test, though. On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 06:15:32AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Probably BW out of the camera. I would consider that no big deal, since BW conversion in PhotoShop actually gives one more control over the grayscale than would in-camera conversion. Paul On Aug 15, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 15/08/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fra: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tilt and shift sensor. Nope -- I don't have a tilt/shift lens for my 6x7. And I don't shoot architecture. -Aaron Just a guess: The HDR function of Photoshop CS2 built into the camera as a part of the multiple exposure. That would improve the dynamic range of the camera, and in combination with the SR or a tripod you could be able to combine two exposures with different ISO settings at one push of the button. I think the clue was that it was something that Aaron _does_ get with a 6x7 (but not with 35mm). Eric. DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Police Badges - second set
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/ From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice Godders, very clean-looking and detailed enough. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice. Perhaps a bit better on the lighting than the first set, although that could be a function of the badges and their reflectivity. Thanks for sharing. Thank you both for the comments and compliments! I went for a slightly flatter overall rendering on this set compared to the first on, the EZ-Cube certainly helped with that and with managing difficult reflections from the surroundings. I've found I do need that Giottos tripod ... the copystand I used as a camera support doesn't work with the EZ Cube and the Bogen/Manfrotto 3444D legs don't have a tilting column so it becomes a challenge to get the camera into the right position for this work. The Giottos 8160 legs are on my next BH order now. I thought to go with the FA77 for a little more working room too, but it turned out that to get the image size I wanted it was just a hair too short and I was right on the cusp between the shortest extension tube and no extension tube at all. I tried the FA135 and it worked well but the rendering was a little too flat. I went back to the 50 Macro and worked closer in the end. Here's a page showing the lighting setup for set 2: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/badge2setup/ Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
*United States Patent * * http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7084915.PN.OS=PN/7084915RS=PN/7084915#h07,084,915* * Sato ** August 1, 2006 * Apparatus for driving an image device *Abstract* An apparatus, which drives an imaging device of a full frame transfer type, comprises an accumulating period calculating processor and a voltage control processor. In the imaging device, a light receiving element and a vertical transfer passage are common. The accumulating period calculating processor obtains an accumulating period, for which a signal charge is accumulated in the light receiving element, by a calculation. The light receiving element is provided with first and second electrodes to which voltages are applied. During the accumulating period, the voltage control processor fixes a voltage level of the first electrode and changes periodically a voltage level of the second electrode in accordance with a length of the accumulating period, so that a charge pumping operation is performed. Inventors: *Sato; Koichi* (Saitama, *JP*) Assignee: *PENTAX Corporation* (Tokyo, *JP*) Appl. No.: *09/579,466* Filed: *May 26, 2000* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Powell Hargrave wrote: Which kind of leaves; output resolution and dynamic range. And a two sensitivity level sensor has already been done by someone (can't remember who) so that leaves output resolution. How about a 10 meg Fuji SR sensor. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms3pro/ Not likely although Fuji is supposed to have a new camera coming. Would they let Pentax steal their thunder? Powell That's actually a 6MP sensor that uprezzes to 12MP. Because the grid is on an angle, this works somewhat effectively, giving more resolution than a standard 6MP sensor, but not nearly as much as a true 12MP sensor. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Someone else was very, very close before. -Aaron Hope it was me with the Fuji SR sensor, http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms3pro/ So Pentax/Samsung have a 10 meg high dynamic range sensor with two pixel sensor sizes. Powell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
It might be technology gained from Samsung like the following. I am not technical enough but it seems to target highlights and providing more range in highlight areas. This would mean the camera will have a different sensor. United States Patent Application 20060175535 Kind Code A1 Park; Sun-Yong ; et al. August 10, 2006 Image sensor Abstract An image sensor comprises an active pixel region that includes a plurality of unit pixels arranged in a matrix pattern, a first optical black region formed adjacent to the active pixel region, wherein a plurality of shaded unit pixels are arranged therein, a drain region formed adjacent to the first optical black region, the drain region discharging excess electrons generated in the active pixel region, and a second optical black region formed adjacent to the drain region, wherein another plurality of the shaded unit pixels are arranged therein. - Original Message - From: Bengt Falke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body *United States Patent * * http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7084915.PN.OS=PN/7084915RS=PN/7084915#h07,084,915* * Sato * * August 1, 2006 * Apparatus for driving an image device *Abstract* An apparatus, which drives an imaging device of a full frame transfer type, comprises an accumulating period calculating processor and a voltage control processor. In the imaging device, a light receiving element and a vertical transfer passage are common. The accumulating period calculating processor obtains an accumulating period, for which a signal charge is accumulated in the light receiving element, by a calculation. The light receiving element is provided with first and second electrodes to which voltages are applied. During the accumulating period, the voltage control processor fixes a voltage level of the first electrode and changes periodically a voltage level of the second electrode in accordance with a length of the accumulating period, so that a charge pumping operation is performed. Inventors: *Sato; Koichi* (Saitama, *JP*) Assignee: *PENTAX Corporation* (Tokyo, *JP*) Appl. No.: *09/579,466* Filed: *May 26, 2000* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Breakfast At Bette's
I like this shot. I love the row of men all sitting on stools. There is enough context with the waitress and cook to fully understand what is going on. Nice work! -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 12:29:27 AM, you wrote: SB Bette's is an old fashioned diner located in West Berkeley. It's mostly a SB breakfast joint - open at 6:00am, closes around 2:30. The place is famous SB for its buttermilk pancakes and for its wonderful potato pancakes. By SB 6:30am the place is filled and on weekends the line is out the door. Just SB a little slice o' life here in the East Bay SB http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/bkfast_at_bette's.html SB istDS, K18/3.5 @ 4.0, ISO 800, 1/25 sec exposure SB Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Police Badges - second set
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Here's a page showing the lighting setup for set 2: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/badge2setup/ Yummy. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Breakfast At Bette's
I agree. Nice shot. However, I love the waitress more than the row of men all sitting on stools:-) -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like this shot. I love the row of men all sitting on stools. There is enough context with the waitress and cook to fully understand what is going on. Nice work! -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 12:29:27 AM, you wrote: SB Bette's is an old fashioned diner located in West Berkeley. It's mostly a SB breakfast joint - open at 6:00am, closes around 2:30. The place is famous SB for its buttermilk pancakes and for its wonderful potato pancakes. By SB 6:30am the place is filled and on weekends the line is out the door. Just SB a little slice o' life here in the East Bay SB http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/bkfast_at_bette's.html SB istDS, K18/3.5 @ 4.0, ISO 800, 1/25 sec exposure SB Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Police Badges - second set
Nice lighting setup. I see you have a softbox on the flash unit as well. Where did you aim it? Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/godders/police-badge-02/ From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice Godders, very clean-looking and detailed enough. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice. Perhaps a bit better on the lighting than the first set, although that could be a function of the badges and their reflectivity. Thanks for sharing. Thank you both for the comments and compliments! I went for a slightly flatter overall rendering on this set compared to the first on, the EZ-Cube certainly helped with that and with managing difficult reflections from the surroundings. I've found I do need that Giottos tripod ... the copystand I used as a camera support doesn't work with the EZ Cube and the Bogen/Manfrotto 3444D legs don't have a tilting column so it becomes a challenge to get the camera into the right position for this work. The Giottos 8160 legs are on my next BH order now. I thought to go with the FA77 for a little more working room too, but it turned out that to get the image size I wanted it was just a hair too short and I was right on the cusp between the shortest extension tube and no extension tube at all. I tried the FA135 and it worked well but the rendering was a little too flat. I went back to the 50 Macro and worked closer in the end. Here's a page showing the lighting setup for set 2: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/badge2setup/ Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Then I'm still hoping for some way to improve the dynamic range. DagT - My naive suggestions: 1. Monitor the light received by all pixels. During the exposure, when a pixel receives an amount of light that exceeds medium gray by a certain quantity, shut off the light recording of those pixels. Conversely with pixels receiving less light than medium gray. Or: 2. When a HDR scene is perceived, set the timer to expose for highlights, then lighten all other pixels in software. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Breakfast At Bette's
Bruce Dayton wrote: I like this shot. I love the row of men all sitting on stools. There is enough context with the waitress and cook to fully understand what is going on. Nice work! Since you put that double-dash-space limiter in there, I can't reference the URL, but... Seems to me the inclusion of an apostrophe in it was the killer. I haven't been able to access it from any of the list messages it shows up in. Which copy of the URL did you use to access it? keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D Spec-ulations
There has, obvious, been a cascade of posts relative to the upcoming K10D. I read a sample here and there and actually followed a couple specific subject speculations for awhile. Don't know how it could have not received it's share speculation, but if so, I missed it. Anyone guessing about the sensitivity range? Specifically, the lower end. 100 iso? 50? Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I'll play How about using the anti shake mechanism to provide perspective control like a PC lens. Butch I'm a day behind on the digest, so if this has been suggested already, sorry. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Police Badges - second set
Thanks. For each badge, I did a couple of exposures with the flash aimed from left to top onto the cube, mostly in a plane about 10 inches in front of the subject and aimed slightly rearwards. Because of the diversity of the engraving texture, shiny surfaces, etc, different angles worked best for the different pieces. It's still a pretty simple setup but effective. The 20 inch cube plus a gradient backdrop (which I didn't use for this set) was modest price: about $140. On Aug 15, 2006, at 10:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice lighting setup. I see you have a softbox on the flash unit as well. Where did you aim it? http://homepage.mac.com/godders/badge2setup/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
A new super-sensor would be great but it does not seem to fulfill the seer's vision of Mid-September ...forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. nor does it fit with ...not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. This implies it is an in-production sensor and the improvement could have already been done by someone. Maybe the innovation is in-camera processing to emulate kodachrome or tri-x and possibly eliminate some post processing. My biggest problem with digital is post processing on a monitor, making a print that doesn't look like the monitor and all the education it takes to calibrate and coordinate equipment to produce the original vision. I have quite a few framed prints from MF film. I have nothing on the wall from digital and I've had a D almost since it went on sale. I produce very fine snapshots using my many lens, happy as any amateur shooter could be, but I have not seen the digital image yet that I can get lost in like MF and LF images. - Original Message - From: Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Someone else was very, very close before. -Aaron Hope it was me with the Fuji SR sensor, http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms3pro/ So Pentax/Samsung have a 10 meg high dynamic range sensor with two pixel sensor sizes. Powell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Spec-ulations
That would do! Thanks, Mark. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: There has, obvious, been a cascade of posts relative to the upcoming K10D. I read a sample here and there and actually followed a couple specific subject speculations for awhile. Don't know how it could have not received it's share speculation, but if so, I missed it. Anyone guessing about the sensitivity range? Specifically, the lower end. 100 iso? 50? *If* it uses the Sony CCD as speculated it'll be ISO 100. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Spec-ulations
Jack Davis wrote: There has, obvious, been a cascade of posts relative to the upcoming K10D. I read a sample here and there and actually followed a couple specific subject speculations for awhile. Don't know how it could have not received it's share speculation, but if so, I missed it. Anyone guessing about the sensitivity range? Specifically, the lower end. 100 iso? 50? *If* it uses the Sony CCD as speculated it'll be ISO 100. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Oh...my...God....
Looks great...if it's a promo poster for a horror movie. Even the original is creepy. -P David Savage wrote: http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1721239forward=user Came across a thread at DPreview about this guys processing technique, and was astonished when I saw this. Those contributing to the thread seemed to think this is a good thing. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032message=19441771 He says he's going for a painting like effect I have to admit, with that in mind, some of it isn't too bad, but this is terrible. Be afraid folks, the plastic people are multiplying. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I don't think any in-camera processing can come close to what can be achieved in conversion and subsequent photoshopping. It just wouldn't have the horsepower. Plus, you'd be at the mercy of the camera's software. No choices. In contrast to your experience, I have gradually replaced most of the 11 x 14 MF shots in my portfolio with 11 x 17 prints from the *ist D. I've also framed quite a few for both home hanging and gallery shows. I don't want post-processing help from the camera. Just a nice, wide, high resolution starting point. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Stringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A new super-sensor would be great but it does not seem to fulfill the seer's vision of Mid-September ...forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. nor does it fit with ...not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. This implies it is an in-production sensor and the improvement could have already been done by someone. Maybe the innovation is in-camera processing to emulate kodachrome or tri-x and possibly eliminate some post processing. My biggest problem with digital is post processing on a monitor, making a print that doesn't look like the monitor and all the education it takes to calibrate and coordinate equipment to produce the original vision. I have quite a few framed prints from MF film. I have nothing on the wall from digital and I've had a D almost since it went on sale. I produce very fine snapshots using my many lens, happy as any amateur shooter could be, but I have not seen the digital image yet that I can get lost in like MF and LF images. - Original Message - From: Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Someone else was very, very close before. -Aaron Hope it was me with the Fuji SR sensor, http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms3pro/ So Pentax/Samsung have a 10 meg high dynamic range sensor with two pixel sensor sizes. Powell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Breakfast At Bette's
Completely agree! Your best, Shel! I can see this as a classic period snapshot. Waitress in typical plate handling mode and depicted in motion, a black cook in his rightful roll and the breakfast boys blithely performing their morning routine. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this shot. I love the row of men all sitting on stools. There is enough context with the waitress and cook to fully understand what is going on. Nice work! -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 12:29:27 AM, you wrote: SB Bette's is an old fashioned diner located in West Berkeley. It's mostly a SB breakfast joint - open at 6:00am, closes around 2:30. The place is famous SB for its buttermilk pancakes and for its wonderful potato pancakes. By SB 6:30am the place is filled and on weekends the line is out the door. Just SB a little slice o' life here in the East Bay SB http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/bkfast_at_bette's.html SB istDS, K18/3.5 @ 4.0, ISO 800, 1/25 sec exposure SB Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Mark Stringer wrote: A new super-sensor would be great but it does not seem to fulfill the seer's vision of Mid-September ...forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. nor does it fit with ...not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. This implies it is an in-production sensor and the improvement could have already been done by someone. One of the theoretical advantages of CCD, versus CMOS, sensors is that the output of a CCD is analog, so it's possible to use different/improved A-D converters. In most cases, camera makers economize by using the A-D converter designed my the CCD manufacturer. But not always: Nikon designed their own A-D converter for the D200 (Nikon's D80 and Sony's A100 use the Sony D-A converter made for the chip by Sony). -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Greetings from Colorado, or Eatyerheartout, Stenquist
Lovely, Doug. Nicely framed and exposed. Dig the colour, man.:-) Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi kids, Been galumphing around Colorado, and wandered through the Gateway Auto History Museum today. This one is for Paul... it's a 1954 Olds F88 prototype, only one surviving, designed by Harley Earl. http://www.alphoto.com/images/gtwy021.jpg rare tech info: *istD, DA12-24/4 nothing done to it except a rotate and resize for web presentation. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Me and My Mom
I like it. Last time that happened to me, was at a TOPDML meet several years ago. I think she was drinking. lol Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm in Chicago. I was shooting on the street, and these two ladies asked me to take their picture. That's never happened to me in Michigan. Fun stuff: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4795444 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Off Topic -- Books
Hi all, Don't read this if you don't like self promotion. Since the first publisher went out of business my books -- 'Thirty Steps to Heaven' and 'The Devil and Manuel de Salazar' have been without a home. Today they were moved to a new publisher and are available either as paperbacks or PDF files from http://www.lulu.com Don W -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
I have no nothing in my pockets
Nothing must be carried in pockets. From: https://lfn.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/lfn.cfg/php/enduser/popup_adp.php?p_faqid=2355 http://tinyurl.com/ecpks Ghm... I have no nothing... Do you? :-) On a serious note, I think it is a good sign that BA and London airports allowed to carry at least a small carry-on bag. It is probably not enough for people with a large case full of photo gear. Tricks with several lenses in the pockets (as described by some list members in the past) may not go well. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
So maybe time for another hint, Aaron? I understand that it's something you have on your 67 but never got on any digital SLR, could you tell if it is something that *IS* available on 35mm SLR (Pentax or other)? Groeten, Vic Anthony Farr wrote: If you eliminate the possibilities that are disadvantageous, then two very interesting possibilities remain. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Day Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 7:14 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Okay, lets see, something you get with 6x7 and not 35mm Mmmm 1) Slow 2) Heavy 3) Huge mirror slap 4) Interchangeable prisms 5) Limited shutter speed range 6) BIG images 7) Large DN (down to film though) ;-) Richard -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I think I've got it: It's a manual film advance lever. Paul -- Original message -- From: Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] So maybe time for another hint, Aaron? I understand that it's something you have on your 67 but never got on any digital SLR, could you tell if it is something that *IS* available on 35mm SLR (Pentax or other)? Groeten, Vic Anthony Farr wrote: If you eliminate the possibilities that are disadvantageous, then two very interesting possibilities remain. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Day Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 7:14 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Okay, lets see, something you get with 6x7 and not 35mm Mmmm 1) Slow 2) Heavy 3) Huge mirror slap 4) Interchangeable prisms 5) Limited shutter speed range 6) BIG images 7) Large DN (down to film though) ;-) Richard -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Me and My Mom
Thanks Dave. I think at least one of these ladies had a few as well. I shot it on a Friday at about 6PM or so. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like it. Last time that happened to me, was at a TOPDML meet several years ago. I think she was drinking. lol Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm in Chicago. I was shooting on the street, and these two ladies asked me to take their picture. That's never happened to me in Michigan. Fun stuff: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4795444 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Frenchtown Barn
Nice rural scenic shot Jack. These are the things i like to go after. Have you tried a BW.?? Dave Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wife and I took a Sierra foot hill drive earlier this AM and found a road (Frenchtown) we hadn't taken before. Came across this barn framed by a beautiful Oak and set off by a patch of California Gold dry grass. Had a 1-hour processing and CD done at Walgreen's. Scan only able as web upload. MZ-S, FA*28~70, 1-stop B+W ND grad(sky), Reala 100, Bogen 3021 w/Bogen Proball Comments welcomed Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=169 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
A new super-sensor would be great but it does not seem to fulfill the seer's vision of Mid-September ...forehead-slapping amongst the competition in the DSLR world. nor does it fit with ...not a single DSLR out there at any price, including ones using the same sensor, have it. This implies it is an in-production sensor and the improvement could have already been done by someone. One of the theoretical advantages of CCD, versus CMOS, sensors is that the output of a CCD is analog, so it's possible to use different/improved A-D converters. In most cases, camera makers economize by using the A-D converter designed my the CCD manufacturer. But not always: Nikon designed their own A-D converter for the D200 (Nikon's D80 and Sony's A100 use the Sony D-A converter made for the chip by Sony). I somehow doubt that there is much to gain from improving the A/D, though. Seems to me that the real issue is noise already present in the analogue signal, and also dynamic range limitations also on the analogue side. - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Building Chicago
Interesting, but i like it. Nice framing and not overly bright to me anyway. Nice blue sky. The crane looks nice against it. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another pic from my weekend in Chicago. Great place to shoot. New buildings going up everywhere. This one is about three blocks north of the river and two blocks east of Michigan Avenue. I processed this on my laptop, so I'm not sure about overall brightness. May have to reprocess a bit when I get home. But I like it. It's with the DA 12-24, 15 mm, f8 @ 1/500, ISO 200: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4797891 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Airwaves Ducati
Nice Dave Quoting Eric Featherstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Guys n Gals, Hmmm, I haven't posted anything for a while, but I've been digging through photos taken over the summer. So here is one of them. Taken at round 6 of the British Super Bikes at Mallory Park in June. A blazing hot day and my first real attempt at anything like this. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4801323 Comments welcome. Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Outstanding in its field
Not sure if i commented previous, but, nice one Ken. I love the contrast from the yellow heads and the rich blue sky. Dave Quoting Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html Comments appreciated. Thanks in advance Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
that's already available on a digicam! (perhaps not an SLR though) -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 August 2006 20:43 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body I think I've got it: It's a manual film advance lever. Paul -- Original message -- From: Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] So maybe time for another hint, Aaron? I understand that it's something you have on your 67 but never got on any digital SLR, could you tell if it is something that *IS* available on 35mm SLR (Pentax or other)? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/8/06, Vic Mortelmans, discombobulated, unleashed: I understand that it's something you have on your 67 but never got on any digital SLR, could you tell if it is something that *IS* available on 35mm SLR (Pentax or other)? IS is available on some Canon lenses, and others (by another name);-) Funny, I can remember a time when just about every listmember here poo- pooed image stabilisation, decrying it as an unnecessary gimmick. Now it seems that if you're not into shake reduction, you're nowhere. Funny how things change! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Nope, the Leica R8/R9 with Digital Module R has one. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I've got it: It's a manual film advance lever. Paul -- Original message -- From: Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] So maybe time for another hint, Aaron? I understand that it's something you have on your 67 but never got on any digital SLR, could you tell if it is something that *IS* available on 35mm SLR (Pentax or other)? Groeten, Vic Anthony Farr wrote: If you eliminate the possibilities that are disadvantageous, then two very interesting possibilities remain. Regards, Anthony Farr -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Day Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 7:14 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Okay, lets see, something you get with 6x7 and not 35mm Mmmm 1) Slow 2) Heavy 3) Huge mirror slap 4) Interchangeable prisms 5) Limited shutter speed range 6) BIG images 7) Large DN (down to film though) ;-) Richard -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
OK - so the sensor remains still, but the camera body vibrates around it... -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Reynolds Sent: 15 August 2006 13:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body Maybe if I say it's not something involving a moving sensor again people will believe me. ;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Adam Maas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I've got it: It's a manual film advance lever. Nope, the Leica R8/R9 with Digital Module R has one. Doesn't the Epson rangefinder have one, too? -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Building Chicago
Thanks Dave. Yes, I was reasonably happy with the laptop rendering when I looked at it on my home computer. We had super skies all weekend. Couldn't ask for more than that. Paul -- Original message -- From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting, but i like it. Nice framing and not overly bright to me anyway. Nice blue sky. The crane looks nice against it. Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another pic from my weekend in Chicago. Great place to shoot. New buildings going up everywhere. This one is about three blocks north of the river and two blocks east of Michigan Avenue. I processed this on my laptop, so I'm not sure about overall brightness. May have to reprocess a bit when I get home. But I like it. It's with the DA 12-24, 15 mm, f8 @ 1/500, ISO 200: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4797891 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
I understand that it's something you have on your 67 but never got on any digital SLR, could you tell if it is something that *IS* available on 35mm SLR (Pentax or other)? IS is available on some Canon lenses, and others (by another name);-) Funny, I can remember a time when just about every listmember here poo- pooed image stabilisation, decrying it as an unnecessary gimmick. Now it seems that if you're not into shake reduction, you're nowhere. Funny how things change! No, I still think it's a gimmick. And if it isn't, it might actually allow morons who can't even hold their camera still, to take sharp pictures, which would be even worse. But you'll never see me cheat like that... - Toralf, Dogma Photographer -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
DS + wireless AF 360 FGZ
I don't know how common this knowledge is, but I was surprised to find that the wireless flashes from Pentax can be triggered by the onboard flash of the DS! Here's the thread on DPreview where I got the info: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=16577363 I'm quite happy to have discovered this! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Cotty wrote: Funny, I can remember a time when just about every listmember here poo- pooed image stabilisation, decrying it as an unnecessary gimmick. Now it seems that if you're not into shake reduction, you're nowhere. Really? As long as I've been on the list, IS and USM have been the most lusted-after features by far. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I've got it: It's a manual film advance lever. Nope, the Leica R8/R9 with Digital Module R has one. Doesn't the Epson rangefinder have one, too? I think so, but Aaron specified something no other DSLR had, and the RD-1's aren't DSLR's. IIRC the Epson uses the lever to cock the shutter, while its vestigial on the Leica's (As the Digital Module R has a winder motor for that). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I know what it is:was: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
Toralf Lund wrote: One of the theoretical advantages of CCD, versus CMOS, sensors is that the output of a CCD is analog, so it's possible to use different/improved A-D converters. In most cases, camera makers economize by using the A-D converter designed my the CCD manufacturer. But not always: Nikon designed their own A-D converter for the D200 (Nikon's D80 and Sony's A100 use the Sony D-A converter made for the chip by Sony). I somehow doubt that there is much to gain from improving the A/D, though. Seems to me that the real issue is noise already present in the analogue signal, and also dynamic range limitations also on the analogue side. I have reason to believe you're mistaken about this :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/8/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Really? As long as I've been on the list, IS and USM have been the most lusted-after features by far. Lusted-after by some, decried by some. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Holy Crap -- Pentax 10MP body
On 15/8/06, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: No, I still think it's a gimmick. And if it isn't, it might actually allow morons who can't even hold their camera still, to take sharp pictures, which would be even worse. But you'll never see me cheat like that... Ahar, I knew I prodded the bottom of the pond, something would stir ;-)) My take is this: I have one lens with image stabilisation and I absolutely love it and would not want to be without it. However, it's a telephoto zoom. On the flip side, I can't think why I would want to have IS in (say) a wide angle lens. I just can't fathom it. I suppose if you have shale reduction in the body, then it would allow the photographer to buy a cheaper, slower lens and hand-hold at a slower speed. I would prefer a faster lens, no anti-shake. I guess you pays yer money and takes yer choice. I think anti-shake is a Good Thing (because like any feature of the tools of our trade, it is not mandatory), but on the flip side, it's yet one more thing to Go Wrong? I remain open-minded. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DS + wireless AF 360 FGZ
This is known already IMO but true that we tond to forget about it. BTW 500FTZ can do that too and any little $5 accessory can add this to about any flash on the market: no big deal even if it is handy, I'm sure. 2006/8/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know how common this knowledge is, but I was surprised to find that the wireless flashes from Pentax can be triggered by the onboard flash of the DS! Here's the thread on DPreview where I got the info: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=16577363 I'm quite happy to have discovered this! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
