Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I do all processing on a 16-bit file in Pro Photo Color Space, which is said to be an even wider gamut than Adobe 98. ProPhoto RGB is much, much wider than Adobe 1998. I'm glad you're using 16-bit files as 8-bit could be prone to posterisation. I save that original. If I'm going to print a file, I convert it to Generic RGB, then convert to 8 bit,. I select the profile for my paper in the print box, turn on Colorsynch management in the print box and hit the button. FWIW I'd skip the colour space conversion if I were you. If you're worried about exceeding the ink/paper gamut, you can use the gamut warning in Photoshop (you'll need to set up the soft-proofing settings first). Note that the Generic RGB profile is actually quite small (its gamut is almost identical to that of sRGB). The method I use is pretty much the opposite of yours: I do the colour management in the Photoshop Print with preview dialog, and switch off colour management in the printer driver. Still works OK :) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Equiv to Nikon D80?
On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:27 PM, Thibouille wrote: Usualy, outside of studio you won't use this. Outside my studio means indoors ;) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
At 02:26 PM 8/09/2006, David Mann wrote: The method I use is pretty much the opposite of yours: I do the colour management in the Photoshop Print with preview dialog, and switch off colour management in the printer driver. Still works OK :) Same here. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
I wish you posted more frequently, Juan. Wonderful work, as Godfrey says. I can't pick out a favourite because they are all so good. John On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 05:59:02 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Juan!! That's a great set of photos. And the viewer is super ... very cleverly done. Wonderful work, as always! Godfrey On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probably seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Equiv to Nikon D80?
Specifications are more like D200, except fps. From what I've heard the price is more like D80... DagT Fra: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Based on what's known and surmised about the K10D, would you say it's competition would be the Nikon D80? Which Canon might be its most direct competition? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ø
No, I took the camera away from him .-) Thanks! DagT Fra: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] HA! I like it. Though I expect you didn't have to kick him in the nuts, or some such, to get that reaction :-) Dave At 05:18 AM 8/09/2006, DagT wrote: The discussion about crying children made me PESO this... http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=257463 Comments are welcome, as always. (the picture is Office Friendly, but I´m not sure about his words... .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
On 7/9/06, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ Superlatives overcome me. I am always in awe of your work mate. The gallery works fine for me - not sure if I like seeing bits of the next pic or not, but that's what happens in a real gallery - you always catch a glimpse of the next pic out of the corner of your eye, and it's enticing. Like reading a joke on email, you don't want to read the punchline first (to know if reading the whole damn joke will be worth it in the end) but your peripheral vision keeps registering enticing words at the bottom.. :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails...
On 7/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: the dogs stopped sniffing each other Holy moly did you do any sniffing as well? http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_-- _awaytheywalkedswingingtheirtails.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
On 8/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, we now know that Cotty has the unofficial official press release. Hey Dave, I'll bet when you were a kid, and saw your brother kissing his cousin behind the sofa at family gatherings, you would stand up and shout Jimmy is kissing Jolene AND THEY ARE USING TONGUES!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
On 7/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: nteresting that there has been no leaked information about the 645D. This leads me to believe that Pentax really can keep a secret when they want to and that documents some of us have seen about the K10D weren't released as accidentally as we thought. :) What did I say a while back? If a company wants something leaked, it doesn't have to do anything at all. If a company wants something kept quiet, it takes serious steps. Look at Apple! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
Which of your existing lenses can't you use with any existing or announced Pentax DSLR? John On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:34:33 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sort of makes you wonder doesn't it? No way I'd buy a 645D @ $1500 + then have to buy a load of new or used lenses. I'd definitely plop down $1500 for a 12+ MP FF DSLR that I could use my existing lenses with. And maybe buy a few more. Tom C. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:58:59 +1000 On 08/09/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That only works if there's a market out there for millions of DSLRs with a $1500 price tag. I doubt that. And, specifically, I very much doubt Pentax could sell enough $1500 DSLRs to get the price down to $1500. Yes, the 645D sales should be interesting -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Royal Photo Op.
Only if Tim drops it on them. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 09:23:59 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Royal Photo Op. On 7/9/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Get yourself up on the rooftop with one of these: http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/fs12/ With a Zenit bolted to the back, that's definitely classed as a lethal weapon! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Now we know who the _real_ Masterspy is... From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 09:26:18 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: USM Lens Availability On 7/9/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. Oh right. D-BG2 Battery Grip Developed for exclusive use with the PENTAX K10D, this battery grip can be used in combination with the camera's rechargeable lithium-ion batteries to greatly extend the battery life. With an extra shutter-release button, preview lever, electronic dial, AE-lock button and green button, it makes vertical-position shooting simple and effortless. It also features the same dust-proof, water-resistant construction as the K10D camera body. Marketing date (tentative): Mid October, 2006 (at the launch of the K10D) Power source: Exclusive lithium-ion battery (D-LI50 type) Dimensions: 140 (W) x 43 (H) x 73.5 (D) mm (excluding protrusions) Weight: 235g (without battery) D'oh! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
At 03:28 PM 8/09/2006, Cotty wrote: On 8/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, we now know that Cotty has the unofficial official press release. Hey Dave, I'll bet when you were a kid, and saw your brother kissing his cousin behind the sofa at family gatherings, you would stand up and shout Jimmy is kissing Jolene AND THEY ARE USING TONGUES!!! vbg Look who's talking Mister Quotes Verbatim I'm an only child so I had to resort to blabbing about my imaginary friends behind their imaginary backs. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: USM Lens Availability
Op Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:05:41 +0200 schreef David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, we now know that Cotty has the unofficial official press release. Either that, or he took the time to cook one up in convincing Pentax-ese :o) At 05:26 AM 8/09/2006, Cotty wrote: On 7/9/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: No, not that bit. The bit about battery grips. Oh right. D-BG2 Battery Grip Developed for exclusive use with the PENTAX K10D, this battery grip can be used in combination with the camera's rechargeable lithium-ion batteries to greatly extend the battery life. With an extra shutter-release button, preview lever, electronic dial, AE-lock button and green button, it makes vertical-position shooting simple and effortless. It also features the same dust-proof, water-resistant construction as the K10D camera body. Marketing date (tentative): Mid October, 2006 (at the launch of the K10D) Power source: Exclusive lithium-ion battery (D-LI50 type) Dimensions: 140 (W) x 43 (H) x 73.5 (D) mm (excluding protrusions) Weight: 235g (without battery) D'oh! -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
Sell it for less, get your money back on lenses. There are all sorts of scenarios for eventual profit. BL (allegedly) sold the Mini as a loss leader for decades and look where it got that company. Er... From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu PM 09:55:49 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 09:47:48PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: John Forbes wrote: I don't think economics is your strong suit. :-) The considerably higher price you quote will drastically reduce demand, which will impinge on economies of scale, and mean that the price you quote won't be profitable. So it'll have to be higher, which will reduce demand more. Or you look at it the other way. It's a killer camera for ?1500. Make millions of them. That only works if there's a market out there for millions of DSLRs with a $1500 price tag. I doubt that. And, specifically, I very much doubt Pentax could sell enough $1500 DSLRs to get the price down to $1500. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/08 Fri AM 12:31:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:55:49 +0100, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 09:47:48PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: John Forbes wrote: I don't think economics is your strong suit. :-) The considerably higher price you quote will drastically reduce demand, which will impinge on economies of scale, and mean that the price you quote won't be profitable. So it'll have to be higher, which will reduce demand more. Or you look at it the other way. It's a killer camera for ?1500. Make millions of them. That only works if there's a market out there for millions of DSLRs with a $1500 price tag. I doubt that. And, specifically, I very much doubt Pentax could sell enough $1500 DSLRs to get the price down to $1500. Precisely. We're all expecting $500 cameras now. Only in the same way that you expect a £1.50p disposable camera if you go to Woolworths. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/08 Fri AM 12:27:11 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:01:19 +0100, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/07 Thu AM 11:01:26 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT: Taking Candy from a baby. I just heard about this on the news. The story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-2318645,00.html The images: http://www.paulkopeikingallery.com/artists/greenberg/index0.htm Is it art? Seems a bit mean spirited to me. Although when I think back to how my parents teased me when I was a kid, it's pretty tame. At least they had the decency not to photograph my reactions :-) I wouldn't have a problem with pictures of genuine reactions but forcing those reactions from toddlers seems to deserve the Edward II treatment. I have to say that I am glad you are not on the bench, Mike. Let the punishment fit the crime. I'm more of a let the punishment fit the criminal sort of chap. 8-)) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ø
Ha!!! Great shot! But surely someone will say you're a bad father to bug your child with a camera just to get that expression on his face...:-) Jostein On 9/7/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The discussion about crying children made me PESO this... http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=257463 Comments are welcome, as always. (the picture is Office Friendly, but I´m not sure about his words... .-) DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ø
On 9/8/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I took the camera away from him .-) People can go off the hinge over lollipop-deprivation, but that's nothing compared to this. What a terrible abuse! :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/08 Fri AM 03:32:51 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! Yep. The apparent lack of interest in the 645D here and on DPreview must be disturbing to Pentax. But perhaps that will change if the price is right. No one would have expected a camera with the specs of the K10D to come in under 1K. Perhaps the 645D price will be a surprise as well. if not, I can't see any substantial numbers there. Paul Medium format attracts a more mature sort of photographer, less prone to jumping up and down with excitement like a child about to be given its lollipop back. On Sep 7, 2006, at 11:24 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 08/09/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a new lens for the 645D. Exactly and it's been known for a while, slated introduction as a normal lens (I guess) due to the new crop factor and maybe to overcome performance issues? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
On 9/8/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The method I use is pretty much the opposite of yours: I do the colour management in the Photoshop Print with preview dialog, and switch off colour management in the printer driver. Still works OK :) Same here. In addition, I have had profiles made for my printer/paper combination, and tell Photoshop to use those profiles. Very well spent money, since I don't have to think each time I print...:-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Firmware updates!
The whole suite does seem to be exceptionally sensitive to the state of the OS installation. Try making sure that you have all available updates for XP installed. From: John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/08 Fri AM 03:58:06 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Firmware updates! I just downloaded the Photo Browser 3.0 on my PC /XP Pro. When I went to install the program, I immediately had a pop saying that the program could not initialize (CRC) which I presume is a CRC error. Has any already seen this and found a fix? I do have Browser Ver. 2.1 installed and the Laboratory did update normally. John Graves -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails...
You're back on form! John On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:21:51 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: the dogs stopped sniffing each other Holy moly did you do any sniffing as well? http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_-- _awaytheywalkedswingingtheirtails.html -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails...
At 03:21 PM 8/09/2006, Cotty wrote: On 7/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: the dogs stopped sniffing each other Holy moly did you do any sniffing as well? http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_-- _awaytheywalkedswingingtheirtails.html The dog probably wouldn't like it and would have bitten him if he had tried. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
On Sep 8, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Jostein Øksne wrote: Same here. In addition, I have had profiles made for my printer/paper combination, and tell Photoshop to use those profiles. Very well spent money, since I don't have to think each time I print...:-) A friend of mine paid for some profiles as well. Not so long ago we did a comparison using some portraits he'd taken. I'm still using the Epson profiles: the higher quality versions from their website. His version did look a little more pleasing to my eye, but his profiles had a tendency to saturate the whites a little bit earlier. If I'd adjusted the white/black points appropriately then the differences may have been a bit more subtle... but he'd asked me to just load the file and print as-is :) Either way I certainly wasn't disappointed with my result. My landscape photos still come out pretty well, although lately the subject matter hasn't been so hot (I have to run a print once a week, whether I want to or not, to prevent clogs). - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:13 PM, Cotty wrote: If a company wants something leaked, it doesn't have to do anything at all. If a company wants something kept quiet, it takes serious steps. Don't believe anything unless it's been officially denied. - Dave, who watches too much Yes, Minister -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Ø
From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/08 Fri AM 08:03:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Ø On 9/8/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I took the camera away from him .-) People can go off the hinge over lollipop-deprivation, but that's nothing compared to this. What a terrible abuse! :-) One is good for the teeth, the other is good for the soul. 8-) But, from the evidence in the picture, I suspect it was chocolate that was removed. Hanging offence in our house. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails...
There speaks the authentic voice of experience. :-) John On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 10:04:53 +0100, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:21 PM 8/09/2006, Cotty wrote: On 7/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: the dogs stopped sniffing each other Holy moly did you do any sniffing as well? http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_-- _awaytheywalkedswingingtheirtails.html The dog probably wouldn't like it and would have bitten him if he had tried. Dave -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
No, the printer isn't managing color. Apple ColorSynch is handling it. In Photo Shop/Color Settings, the setting is at Colorsynch Workflow. I n Print to Preview, Source is set to Document : Generic RGB. It stays that way. Don't have to change it. Print Space is set to Same as Source. Intent is grayed out when you print with ColorSynch. In the print box. Color Management is set to ColorSynch. And of course the printer driver is chosen. Works beautifully. On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I presume your ColorSync workflow runs like this: - image in 16bit ProPhoto - Print with Preview - set let printer manage color - set rendering intent - epson driver - set paper type and print resolution options - set color management - colorsync So what happens is that Photoshop renders the data to the print driver in 8bit form, having done an implicit conversion, and then the Epson driver renders the data with conversion for the paper type, inkset, and ColorSync profile. The results can be very good, and difficult to distinguish from the 'all photoshop' printing workflow ... - image in 16bit ProPhoto - Print with Preview - set let photoshop manage color - set paper/inkset/printer profile and rendering intent - epson driver - set paper type and print resolution options - set color management - off The difference is when/where the conversion to 8bit happens relative to the profile conversion. In the latter workflow, the profile conversion happens before the 8bit conversion, in the ColorSync workflow the profile conversion happens later. Depending upon the paper type and the exact printer model you have, it might be difficult to demonstrate the difference. Also, the quality of the ColorSync profile for a given paper/inkset/printer is a factor. The R2400, K3 inkset, and supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte and Epson Fine Art Velvet (my standard papers) are very very good, there have only been a couple of occasions where I found any reason to fine tune the printing process with the driver controls. Godfrey On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I use ColorSynch for printing, so I'm not sure how this relates. I do all processing on a 16-bit file in Pro Photo Color Space, which is said to be an even wider gamut than Adobe 98. I save that original. If I'm going to print a file, I convert it to Generic RGB, then convert to 8 bit,. I select the profile for my paper in the print box, turn on ColorSync management in the print box and hit the button. I'm printing on an Epson 2200. I get beautiful results this way. I'm not sure if I could do better some other way. But past experiments have always led me right back to this method. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:24 AM, mike wilson wrote: Medium format attracts a more mature sort of photographer, less prone to jumping up and down with excitement like a child about to be given its lollipop back. Like the brotherhood. :-)) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
I don't know if I've said this before Juan, but I think I hate you. ;-) Those are all excellent. WRT the gallery For Flash, it's one of the least annoying that I've ever come across. Cheers, Dave On 9/8/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [another of my lost messages--hopefully nobody gets it twice] Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probaby seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) Feedback of all sorts is most welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
Doesn't work well with my dial-up connection. Simple HTML is a better choice, imo - everyone can see the pics. I just don't see a need for all this high-tech fancy stuff just to show a picture or a few pictures. I like your work Juan, but I'm just not going to struggle with flash and flickr to see your photos. Probably my loss maybe when I get a high speed connection I'll take another look. Shel On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:03 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probably seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Help needed for buying monopod in Germany
Hello list Is there af list meber in Germany who wants to help getting me a Manfrotte 334B in Germany, ending September 17th.? The seller will only sell to people living in Germany. But I want it very much I bet it will go for for less than 60 Euros. Please email me off list if you want to help. Thanks Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
I think the presentation is way coolbring it on... Juan Buhler wrote: [another of my lost messages--hopefully nobody gets it twice] Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probaby seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) Feedback of all sorts is most welcome. j -- Juan Buhler Check out my book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Help needed for buying monopod in Germany
On 08.09.2006, at 14:31 , Jens Bladt wrote: Hello list Is there af list meber in Germany who wants to help getting me a Manfrotte 334B in Germany, ending September 17th.? The seller will only sell to people living in Germany. But I want it very much I bet it will go for for less than 60 Euros. First buy it, then convince seller to sell monopod abroad ;-) That's what I usually do and it always works :-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sunrise with DA 21mm
Very nice pic, George. As far as the lens goes, the absence of ghost images and the very modest flare are even more impressive than the sharpness. Rick --- George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is rapidly becoming my favorite lens. Here's an example, shot on the way to work yesterday. It was morning, the Sun was on the way up, the mist and fog were hanging over the fields. I pulled off the highway and shot this out the side window of the car. If you have the bandwidth, check the full size version. I'm not sure how well the details survived the jpg compression, but I made a 13x19 test print and the detail is sharp as a tack. Look at the power structures on the horizon. medium size http://georgesphotos.net/photos/93757233-M.jpg original http://georgesphotos.net/photos/93757233-O.jpg The little black specs in the sky (upper left corner) are not dust. Look close, they are birds. There is some sensor dust showing in the sky, it is lighter colored circles. It needs a bit of judicious cropping and some cleanup, but it looks great as a big test print. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
System restore on Win XP Home
Any idea how long this should take. I went back to last week when i knew all my html programs worked. Its been running for 2 hours now. XP Home with 80 Gig HD and about 50 gig of files. I have a number of CD's to get out today. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
You don't know? David Savage wrote: I don't know if I've said this before Juan, but I think I hate you. ;-) Those are all excellent. WRT the gallery For Flash, it's one of the least annoying that I've ever come across. Cheers, Dave On 9/8/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [another of my lost messages--hopefully nobody gets it twice] Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probaby seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) Feedback of all sorts is most welcome. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
Excellent work as usual. Dave On 9/8/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [another of my lost messages--hopefully nobody gets it twice] Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probaby seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) Feedback of all sorts is most welcome. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D Competitors and Press Release
Dear All, I have been reading the K10D chatter here with interest. First things first: if this camera is, as rumored, to sell at US$999 or less, it WILL have three main competitors: the Nikon D80, the Sony A100 and the Canon 400D/Rebel XTi. Why? Well, they all sell for around $999 with kit lens. They are all 10 MP D-SLRs. Ergo, they will be considered in the same class. Now, the K10D is rumored to have better image quality than these cameras (or at least the D80 and A100 - nobody knows what the 400D is like yet), better build quality etc. but nonetheless, its competitors are quite simply whatever it is that everyone else is selling at the same price point. If it is at the $999 price point, it will compete with the other D-SLRs that cost $999. Canon's 30D will not be a prime competitor if, as rumored, it is a $999, 10 MP, 3 fps camera. The 30D is a $1,299 (with lens), 8 MP, 5 fps camera. Right now, the 30D mainly exists for people who want a relatively fast (5 fps) camera but can't afford a 1-series. This is the same class as the Nikon D200, though the D200 is a bit more expensive and is better than the Canon in every aspect but image quality (which is, IMHO, worse). So from my point of view, if it has the best feature set in the class, the K10D seems destined to compete with the D80, A100 and 400D, slotting in above the entry-level K100D, D50 and 350D. As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sunrise with DA 21mm
Great shot, George. I'd clean that sensor though. ;-) Yes, this lens is on my list... ! Godfrey On Sep 7, 2006, at 6:46 PM, George Sinos wrote: This is rapidly becoming my favorite lens. Here's an example, shot on the way to work yesterday. It was morning, the Sun was on the way up, the mist and fog were hanging over the fields. I pulled off the highway and shot this out the side window of the car. If you have the bandwidth, check the full size version. I'm not sure how well the details survived the jpg compression, but I made a 13x19 test print and the detail is sharp as a tack. Look at the power structures on the horizon. medium size http://georgesphotos.net/photos/93757233-M.jpg original http://georgesphotos.net/photos/93757233-O.jpg The little black specs in the sky (upper left corner) are not dust. Look close, they are birds. There is some sensor dust showing in the sky, it is lighter colored circles. It needs a bit of judicious cropping and some cleanup, but it looks great as a big test print. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
(Please: the term is ColorSync, not ColorSynch ... it's an Apple
trademark.
There is no such thing as ColorSynch. ;-)
I'm sorry, i don't understand the description of your settings. There
is no option called ColorSynch Workflow in the Photoshop CS2 Edit-
Color Settings dialog. There is an option for a working colorspace
listed as ColorSync RGB - Generic RGB. Is that what you're using?
I also don't see any settings as you've labeled in the Print with
Preview dialog ('Source', 'Print Space', etc). You don't list what
options you've set in the Epson print driver dialog.
In the Photoshop CS2 help, when you search on ColorSync, it go to a
page describing Letting the Printer Manage Color and shows how to
set up a ColorSync printing workflow as I described below. I suspect
you're running Photoshop CS ...
Godfrey
On Sep 8, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
No, the printer isn't managing color. Apple ColorSynch is handling it.
In Photo Shop/Color Settings, the setting is at Colorsynch Workflow.
I n Print to Preview, Source is set to Document : Generic RGB. It
stays that way. Don't have to change it. Print Space is set to Same
as Source. Intent is grayed out when you print with ColorSynch. In
the print box. Color Management is set to ColorSynch. And of course
the printer driver is chosen. Works beautifully.
On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I presume your ColorSync workflow runs like this:
- image in 16bit ProPhoto
- Print with Preview
- set let printer manage color
- set rendering intent
- epson driver
- set paper type and print resolution options
- set color management - colorsync
So what happens is that Photoshop renders the data to the print
driver in 8bit form, having done an implicit conversion, and then the
Epson driver renders the data with conversion for the paper type,
inkset, and ColorSync profile.
The results can be very good, and difficult to distinguish from the
'all photoshop' printing workflow ...
- image in 16bit ProPhoto
- Print with Preview
- set let photoshop manage color
- set paper/inkset/printer profile and rendering intent
- epson driver
- set paper type and print resolution options
- set color management - off
The difference is when/where the conversion to 8bit happens relative
to the profile conversion. In the latter workflow, the profile
conversion happens before the 8bit conversion, in the ColorSync
workflow the profile conversion happens later. Depending upon the
paper type and the exact printer model you have, it might be
difficult to demonstrate the difference. Also, the quality of the
ColorSync profile for a given paper/inkset/printer is a factor.
The R2400, K3 inkset, and supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte
and Epson Fine Art Velvet (my standard papers) are very very good,
there have only been a couple of occasions where I found any reason
to fine tune the printing process with the driver controls.
Godfrey
On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I use ColorSynch for printing, so I'm not sure how this relates.
I do
all processing on a 16-bit file in Pro Photo Color Space, which is
said
to be an even wider gamut than Adobe 98. I save that original. If
I'm
going to print a file, I convert it to Generic RGB, then convert
to 8
bit,. I select the profile for my paper in the print box, turn on
ColorSync management in the print box and hit the button. I'm
printing
on an Epson 2200. I get beautiful results this way. I'm not sure
if I
could do better some other way. But past experiments have always
led me
right back to this method.
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Re: System restore on Win XP Home
On Sep 8, 2006, at 8:49, David J Brooks wrote: Any idea how long this should take. I went back to last week when i knew all my html programs worked. Its been running for 2 hours now. XP Home with 80 Gig HD and about 50 gig of files. The only accurate answer is a lame one: it depends Is the hard drive still cranking away like it's doing something? All you can do is wait, I'm afraid. Interrupting it would be A Bad Thing (tm). (Sorry) -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
re: OT: Help needed for buying monopod in Germany
Sorry folks - no problem anymore. I have now CLA'ed my old 334B (I did carry it in the rain some time ago) - and gues what? Now it works almost perfectly again! Sylwek The seller has set up the auction a a way, that does not allow people abroad to bid. Sorry for bothering you all: At least now you know taht there's a like new Manfrotto 334B for sale at www.ebay.de - Germany - for Germany only. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Sylwester Pietrzyk Sendt: 8. september 2006 14:38 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Help needed for buying monopod in Germany On 08.09.2006, at 14:31 , Jens Bladt wrote: Hello list Is there af list meber in Germany who wants to help getting me a Manfrotte 334B in Germany, ending September 17th.? The seller will only sell to people living in Germany. But I want it very much I bet it will go for for less than 60 Euros. First buy it, then convince seller to sell monopod abroad ;-) That's what I usually do and it always works :-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: House and Tree
Hi! Though I hate to interrupt the breathless speculation about the K10D... Here is another pic from our travels in Germany this past summer. This house and tree in Augsburg seemed photo-worthy. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4890774 Ist D, FA 16-45, ISO 200, f/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/60, RAW file processed with ACR and PE4. Rick, this is really one well spotted tree... Thumbs up! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: System restore on Win XP Home
If all is going well it shouldn't take long. About as long as it takes to restart you computer, plus a couple of minutes. Dave On 9/8/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea how long this should take. I went back to last week when i knew all my html programs worked. Its been running for 2 hours now. XP Home with 80 Gig HD and about 50 gig of files. I have a number of CD's to get out today. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
I'm using CS1 at home, and I print only from that computer. As you guessed,
that explains the disparity. My work laptop runs CS2, so I looked. Yes, the
setup is different. I would think that choosing the working colorspace listed
as ColorSyncRGB-Generic RGB in CS2 would produce the same result. I'll
eventually find out. I also took a look at Print with Preview in CS2. It offers
different choices as well. I will have to experiment when I start using CS2 to
print. But I think the choice will either be Let PhotoShop Determine Colors
or No Color Management. I notice that if I choose No Color Management* in
CS2, the Rendering Intent menu goes grey, just as it does in CS1 when
Source is set to Document.
I realize my explanation was incomplete. I convert to Generic RGB colorspace
and 8-bit mode before printing. In the print box, I choose Premium Luster or
Velvet Fine Art, depending on which paper I'm using. For each of these I have
saved my printer settings as Advanced, 28,800. (They're might be more, but I'm
not on that computer now. ) I go to Color Management and make sure it's set
to ColorSync Workflow. I'm printing on an Epson 2200 by the way, which can come
very close to the 2400 in quality, although it's not as rugged or as good at
ink management. My next printer will be a 2400, but I probably will wait until
the 2200 gives up the ghost.
I'm saving this thread and will experiment with your method when I upgrade to
CS2. Thanks for all the info.
Paul
-- Original message --
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Please: the term is ColorSync, not ColorSynch ... it's an Apple
trademark.
There is no such thing as ColorSynch. ;-)
I'm sorry, i don't understand the description of your settings. There
is no option called ColorSynch Workflow in the Photoshop CS2 Edit-
Color Settings dialog. There is an option for a working colorspace
listed as ColorSync RGB - Generic RGB. Is that what you're using?
I also don't see any settings as you've labeled in the Print with
Preview dialog ('Source', 'Print Space', etc). You don't list what
options you've set in the Epson print driver dialog.
In the Photoshop CS2 help, when you search on ColorSync, it go to a
page describing Letting the Printer Manage Color and shows how to
set up a ColorSync printing workflow as I described below. I suspect
you're running Photoshop CS ...
Godfrey
On Sep 8, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
No, the printer isn't managing color. Apple ColorSynch is handling it.
In Photo Shop/Color Settings, the setting is at Colorsynch Workflow.
I n Print to Preview, Source is set to Document : Generic RGB. It
stays that way. Don't have to change it. Print Space is set to Same
as Source. Intent is grayed out when you print with ColorSynch. In
the print box. Color Management is set to ColorSynch. And of course
the printer driver is chosen. Works beautifully.
On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I presume your ColorSync workflow runs like this:
- image in 16bit ProPhoto
- Print with Preview
- set let printer manage color
- set rendering intent
- epson driver
- set paper type and print resolution options
- set color management - colorsync
So what happens is that Photoshop renders the data to the print
driver in 8bit form, having done an implicit conversion, and then the
Epson driver renders the data with conversion for the paper type,
inkset, and ColorSync profile.
The results can be very good, and difficult to distinguish from the
'all photoshop' printing workflow ...
- image in 16bit ProPhoto
- Print with Preview
- set let photoshop manage color
- set paper/inkset/printer profile and rendering intent
- epson driver
- set paper type and print resolution options
- set color management - off
The difference is when/where the conversion to 8bit happens relative
to the profile conversion. In the latter workflow, the profile
conversion happens before the 8bit conversion, in the ColorSync
workflow the profile conversion happens later. Depending upon the
paper type and the exact printer model you have, it might be
difficult to demonstrate the difference. Also, the quality of the
ColorSync profile for a given paper/inkset/printer is a factor.
The R2400, K3 inkset, and supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte
and Epson Fine Art Velvet (my standard papers) are very very good,
there have only been a couple of occasions where I found any reason
to fine tune the printing process with the driver controls.
Godfrey
On Sep 7, 2006, at 3:23 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I use ColorSynch for printing, so I'm not sure how this relates.
I do
all processing on a 16-bit file in Pro Photo Color Space, which is
said
to be an even wider gamut than Adobe 98. I save that original. If
I'm
going to print a file, I
Re: PESO: typically Belgian
Hi! So quintessentially Belgian: industry, catholicism and little brick houses: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012 Comments and suggestions are, as always, most welcome. Ralf, I think this would make excellent addition to this months PUG theme - Juxtaposition... I really should learn from the way you see things. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release
At 09:54 PM 8/09/2006, Douglas Newman wrote: As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... New Doug G'day Doug. I agree, it doesn't make sense. But it's more fun that way ;-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
It's been that kind of week. I'm not sure of much at the moment. ;-) Dave On 9/8/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't know? David Savage wrote: I don't know if I've said this before Juan, but I think I hate you. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
re: OT: Help needed for buying monopod in Germany
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Jens Bladt wrote: At least now you know taht there's a like new Some people never learn. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Advantage of increased colour depth?
When you get to CS2 for printing, you'll want to use the settings I
described below for ColorSync managed printing and for Photoshop CS2
managed printing. They're what Adobe recommends for the two different
types of printing workflow, as distinguished from the working
colorspace and editing environment.
I use the North American Prepress 2 set in Edit-Color Settings to
establish my editing environment and color management policies. My
RAW files are processed to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] RGB rendering with either
Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB color profile, when I edit a ProPhoto RGB
image, I tell CS2 to use the embedded profile, not to convert to
Adobe RGB. I do not convert profiles or downsample to 8bit per
channel prior to printing: I let CS2 do the color management and
downsampling through the settings used in Print with Preview and
the Epson print driver dialog.
CS2's color management is more sophisticated and the settings options
much clearer than CS was. I'm not entirely sure what your current
ColorSync workflow is actually doing, but that's not really very
important as long as it's producing the results you are happy with!
Godfrey
On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm using CS1 at home, and I print only from that computer. As you
guessed, that explains the disparity. My work laptop runs CS2, so I
looked. Yes, the setup is different. I would think that choosing
the working colorspace listed as ColorSyncRGB-Generic RGB in CS2
would produce the same result. I'll eventually find out. I also
took a look at Print with Preview in CS2. It offers different
choices as well. I will have to experiment when I start using CS2
to print. But I think the choice will either be Let PhotoShop
Determine Colors or No Color Management. I notice that if I
choose No Color Management* in CS2, the Rendering Intent menu
goes grey, just as it does in CS1 when Source is set to Document.
I realize my explanation was incomplete. I convert to Generic RGB
colorspace and 8-bit mode before printing. In the print box, I
choose Premium Luster or Velvet Fine Art, depending on which paper
I'm using. For each of these I have saved my printer settings as
Advanced, 28,800. (They're might be more, but I'm not on that
computer now. ) I go to Color Management and make sure it's set
to ColorSync Workflow. I'm printing on an Epson 2200 by the way,
which can come very close to the 2400 in quality, although it's not
as rugged or as good at ink management. My next printer will be a
2400, but I probably will wait until the 2200 gives up the ghost.
I'm saving this thread and will experiment with your method when I
upgrade to CS2. Thanks for all the info.
Paul
-- Original message --
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Please: the term is ColorSync, not ColorSynch ... it's an Apple
trademark.
There is no such thing as ColorSynch. ;-)
I'm sorry, i don't understand the description of your settings. There
is no option called ColorSynch Workflow in the Photoshop CS2 Edit-
Color Settings dialog. There is an option for a working colorspace
listed as ColorSync RGB - Generic RGB. Is that what you're using?
I also don't see any settings as you've labeled in the Print with
Preview dialog ('Source', 'Print Space', etc). You don't list what
options you've set in the Epson print driver dialog.
In the Photoshop CS2 help, when you search on ColorSync, it go to a
page describing Letting the Printer Manage Color and shows how to
set up a ColorSync printing workflow as I described below. I suspect
you're running Photoshop CS ...
Godfrey
On Sep 8, 2006, at 3:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
No, the printer isn't managing color. Apple ColorSynch is
handling it.
In Photo Shop/Color Settings, the setting is at Colorsynch
Workflow.
I n Print to Preview, Source is set to Document : Generic
RGB. It
stays that way. Don't have to change it. Print Space is set to
Same
as Source. Intent is grayed out when you print with
ColorSynch. In
the print box. Color Management is set to ColorSynch. And of
course
the printer driver is chosen. Works beautifully.
On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
I presume your ColorSync workflow runs like this:
- image in 16bit ProPhoto
- Print with Preview
- set let printer manage color
- set rendering intent
- epson driver
- set paper type and print resolution options
- set color management - colorsync
So what happens is that Photoshop renders the data to the print
driver in 8bit form, having done an implicit conversion, and
then the
Epson driver renders the data with conversion for the paper type,
inkset, and ColorSync profile.
The results can be very good, and difficult to distinguish from the
'all photoshop' printing workflow ...
- image in 16bit ProPhoto
- Print with Preview
- set let photoshop
RE: K10D Competitors and Press Release
Canon D30 - what do you mean by rumour? This model is on the shelves allready. I know felleo camera club member who has just bought one. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Douglas Newman Sendt: 8. september 2006 15:55 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: K10D Competitors and Press Release Dear All, I have been reading the K10D chatter here with interest. First things first: if this camera is, as rumored, to sell at US$999 or less, it WILL have three main competitors: the Nikon D80, the Sony A100 and the Canon 400D/Rebel XTi. Why? Well, they all sell for around $999 with kit lens. They are all 10 MP D-SLRs. Ergo, they will be considered in the same class. Now, the K10D is rumored to have better image quality than these cameras (or at least the D80 and A100 - nobody knows what the 400D is like yet), better build quality etc. but nonetheless, its competitors are quite simply whatever it is that everyone else is selling at the same price point. If it is at the $999 price point, it will compete with the other D-SLRs that cost $999. Canon's 30D will not be a prime competitor if, as rumored, it is a $999, 10 MP, 3 fps camera. The 30D is a $1,299 (with lens), 8 MP, 5 fps camera. Right now, the 30D mainly exists for people who want a relatively fast (5 fps) camera but can't afford a 1-series. This is the same class as the Nikon D200, though the D200 is a bit more expensive and is better than the Canon in every aspect but image quality (which is, IMHO, worse). So from my point of view, if it has the best feature set in the class, the K10D seems destined to compete with the D80, A100 and 400D, slotting in above the entry-level K100D, D50 and 350D. As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: typically Belgian
Next stop: Abandoned Places – http://www.abandoned-places.com/ Lots and lots of haunted houses, many of them Belgian... So quintessentially Belgian: industry, catholicism and little brick houses: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012 Comments and suggestions are, as always, most welcome. Beautiful photos! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS: several Pentax lenses (and an AF body)
I think this is the last try. If there are no takers, the lenses will be put on sale in Ebay: SMC Pentax-A 15 mm. 3.5, , an excellent ultra wide lens, compatible in all exposure modes with Pentax DSLRs, LN- 500 euros. Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II (for Pentax AF). LN in box, including both caps, hood and instruction manual. A very well made, fast pro zoom. 200 euros. SMC Pentax 85 mm. 1.8 (K series)+ original lens hood, well used, but no dust inside. The lens was serviced 3 years ago and shows some brassing, but the aperture and focus rings work smoothly, There's a very tiny coating mark (a tiny hairline) in the back element, hardly visible, which doesn't affect the image quality. As many of you will know, nowadays it is a very difficult to find lens, and when found, much more expensive. 250 euros. SMC Pentax-FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6 (AF, black version). I also include an original Pentax rigid clip-on hood, the one made for the K 80-200 4.5, much better than the hood Pentax proposes for the 80-320 . Ex+. 120 euros. Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR (boxed,with Spanish instruction manual) + F remote switch and FG AA battery pack. Ex+. 120 euros. Prices don't include shipping expenses from Spain. Regards, Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release
Jens, the rumour is about the K10D, not the Canon 30D (The Canon D30 is an entirely different camera, and long obsolete. It was the Elan II-based 3MP body from 2000). If the K10D is as rumoured, the 30D will not be a major competitor for it, as it fills another niche entirely. -Adam Jens Bladt wrote: Canon D30 - what do you mean by rumour? This model is on the shelves allready. I know felleo camera club member who has just bought one. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Douglas Newman Sendt: 8. september 2006 15:55 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: K10D Competitors and Press Release Dear All, I have been reading the K10D chatter here with interest. First things first: if this camera is, as rumored, to sell at US$999 or less, it WILL have three main competitors: the Nikon D80, the Sony A100 and the Canon 400D/Rebel XTi. Why? Well, they all sell for around $999 with kit lens. They are all 10 MP D-SLRs. Ergo, they will be considered in the same class. Now, the K10D is rumored to have better image quality than these cameras (or at least the D80 and A100 - nobody knows what the 400D is like yet), better build quality etc. but nonetheless, its competitors are quite simply whatever it is that everyone else is selling at the same price point. If it is at the $999 price point, it will compete with the other D-SLRs that cost $999. Canon's 30D will not be a prime competitor if, as rumored, it is a $999, 10 MP, 3 fps camera. The 30D is a $1,299 (with lens), 8 MP, 5 fps camera. Right now, the 30D mainly exists for people who want a relatively fast (5 fps) camera but can't afford a 1-series. This is the same class as the Nikon D200, though the D200 is a bit more expensive and is better than the Canon in every aspect but image quality (which is, IMHO, worse). So from my point of view, if it has the best feature set in the class, the K10D seems destined to compete with the D80, A100 and 400D, slotting in above the entry-level K100D, D50 and 350D. As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: 77mm Ltd and TC?
This thread http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=18526448 at dpreivew will give you some input. I don't really know what value the info will have, but at least it's something (just as the info you get here) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorgen at epixx Sent: 6. september 2006 10:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: 77mm Ltd and TC? Hi, I'm considering a K100D (possibly a K10D, depending on a lot of factors) with three lenses (21, 43 and 77) as my travel-carry-everywhere-street-photo-low-light-kit. To further enhance the usability of the camera, I wonder how well the 77 Ltd. will work with a TC, and which TC will give the best results. A 1.7 would have been perfect, but if I've understood things correctly, Pentax isn't making those anymore. Anybody with experience? Jorgen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: APS-C sensor $34?!
Sure go ahead and pick on my imprecise use of the language. I cannot use any of my existing lenses with the vaporous 645D, nor could I if I held it in my hand. I cannot use any of of my existing lenses with any Pentax DSLR and get the FOV that I formerly got when using them on a 35mm body. Go pick a fight somewhere else. Tom C. From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:25:15 +0100 Which of your existing lenses can't you use with any existing or announced Pentax DSLR? John On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:34:33 +0100, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sort of makes you wonder doesn't it? No way I'd buy a 645D @ $1500 + then have to buy a load of new or used lenses. I'd definitely plop down $1500 for a 12+ MP FF DSLR that I could use my existing lenses with. And maybe buy a few more. Tom C. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: APS-C sensor $34?! Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:58:59 +1000 On 08/09/06, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That only works if there's a market out there for millions of DSLRs with a $1500 price tag. I doubt that. And, specifically, I very much doubt Pentax could sell enough $1500 DSLRs to get the price down to $1500. Yes, the 645D sales should be interesting -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Equiv to Nikon D80?
Its a wireless connection to your PC that syncs up with the web browser/calendar/email built into the camera. ;) Its for flash work. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's PC Sync? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Definitely the D80, although the K10D will be a slight step up if it does come with limited weather seals and PC Sync. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. Thanks, Bill Lawlor www.wvlphotography.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 77mm Ltd and TC?
That was a mixed bag to say the least. Looks like the combo works well on chicken but not so well on charts ;-) Oh well, can't have everything I guess. That 50-200 might be a better idea for longer focal lengths. Jorgen On 8/9/06 10:38 pm, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=18526448 at dpreivew will give you some input. I don't really know what value the info will have, but at least it's something (just as the info you get here) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorgen at epixx Sent: 6. september 2006 10:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: 77mm Ltd and TC? Hi, I'm considering a K100D (possibly a K10D, depending on a lot of factors) with three lenses (21, 43 and 77) as my travel-carry-everywhere-street-photo-low-light-kit. To further enhance the usability of the camera, I wonder how well the 77 Ltd. will work with a TC, and which TC will give the best results. A 1.7 would have been perfect, but if I've understood things correctly, Pentax isn't making those anymore. Anybody with experience? Jorgen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
I do about dentists... Norm From: Juey Chong Ong On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Bob Shell wrote: What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Do grown-ups have negative feelings about doctors for the rest of their lives? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Bob Shell wrote: What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Do grown-ups have negative feelings about doctors for the rest of their lives? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 77mm Ltd and TC?
I'm considering a K100D (possibly a K10D, depending on a lot of factors) with three lenses (21, 43 and 77) as my travel-carry-everywhere-street-photo-low-light-kit. To further enhance the usability of the camera, I wonder how well the 77 Ltd. will work with a TC, and which TC will give the best results. A 1.7 would have been perfect, but if I've understood things correctly, Pentax isn't making those anymore. I don't use greater than 135mm focal length very often, but I did test the FA77 with the Pentax-A Rear Converter 2x-S as I felt it a sensible option to carry. You lose autofocus, that's not significant to me. It works quite well. There's little CA and good sharpness, only a minor degradation of the FA77 is in evidence. This is the only photo I have posted at present with this combination: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/large/10-half.jpg Pentax *ist DS + FA77mm + A2x-S converter ISO 200 @ f/3.5 @ 1/2 sec (tripod mounted) The softness in this one is purely focus zone and subject movement. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Ø
Life is tough, and this is a tough* photo. * in the Norwegian meaning of the word. Translation for non Norwegian readers; cool. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: 7. september 2006 23:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Ø The discussion about crying children made me PESO this... http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=257463 Comments are welcome, as always. (the picture is Office Friendly, but I´m not sure about his words... .-) DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
I have one that may be for sale. Shel [Original Message] From: Bill Lawlor I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails...
I stopped for a moment of admiration and reflection. Then it hit me, they were walking in unison Walking in unison, hah ;-) Nice grab BTW. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 8. september 2006 01:51 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails... I was out taking the dog for his afternoon walk when I ran into this you woman on the same mission with her dog. She was also carrying a camera though it was a compact point and shoot, so I guess our missions overlapped there as well. After the dogs stopped sniffing each other we went our separate ways, though I stopped for a moment of admiration and reflection. Then it hit me, they were walking in unison, I quickly did a fast lens change and snapped off a few quick shots, I think this one catches what I saw. I also reflected a bit on the eternal question: Why is the wrong lens always on the camera? http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_awaytheywalkedswingingtheirtails. html Technical Data: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 200 @ 1/400sec (Av) smc Pentax F 70-210 mm f4-5.6 @ f9 -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails...
having more than one lens enables you to have the wrong lens mounted at any given time MARK!! Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Brewer Sent: 8. september 2006 02:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO -- ...and away they walked, swinging their tails... Looks like Mike Wilson's eyebrow got in the way or my mustache... In the Rules of Photography, it is written that having more than one lens enables you to have the wrong lens mounted at any given time. On Sep 7, 2006, at 7:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I was out taking the dog for his afternoon walk when I ran into this you woman on the same mission with her dog. She was also carrying a camera though it was a compact point and shoot, so I guess our missions overlapped there as well. After the dogs stopped sniffing each other we went our separate ways, though I stopped for a moment of admiration and reflection. Then it hit me, they were walking in unison, I quickly did a fast lens change and snapped off a few quick shots, I think this one catches what I saw. I also reflected a bit on the eternal question: Why is the wrong lens always on the camera? http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_-- _awaytheywalkedswingingtheirtails.html Technical Data: Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 200 @ 1/400sec (Av) smc Pentax F 70-210 mm f4-5.6 @ f9 -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D Competitors and Press Release
I tend to agree ... most of us know what info the release contains. However, regardless of who has a copy, if they promised not to share the information, they should keep it to themselves. OTOH, everyone I know who has a copy, or who has information gleaned from a copy, has shared it with the caveat that the recipient not share it - and I'm willing to bet that those who shared the info promised not to share it with anyone. Shel [Original Message] From: Douglas Newman As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D Equiv to Nikon D80?
I'm assuming the K10D will have descent build, descent noise control and a good viewfinder. If I'm correct about this; then I'd say K10D is a low light camera landing somewhere between D80 and D200, and a bit above the 400D. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 8. september 2006 02:47 To: PDML Subject: K10D Equiv to Nikon D80? Based on what's known and surmised about the K10D, would you say it's competition would be the Nikon D80? Which Canon might be its most direct competition? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: System restore on Win XP Home
Humm. Its been going for about 5 1/2 hours now. I clicked the next button on the pop up window and its been sitting there for all this time, no new window. Arg Dave Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If all is going well it shouldn't take long. About as long as it takes to restart you computer, plus a couple of minutes. Dave On 9/8/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any idea how long this should take. I went back to last week when i knew all my html programs worked. Its been running for 2 hours now. XP Home with 80 Gig HD and about 50 gig of files. I have a number of CD's to get out today. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
Juey Chong Ong wrote: On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Bob Shell wrote: What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Do grown-ups have negative feelings about doctors for the rest of their lives? I know I do! ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: System restore on Win XP Home
That's too long. It should only take a few minutes at most, including a reboot. Sometimes it takes a while between completion of the restoration and a reboot, but it's _never_ taken my system more than three or four minutes, worst case scenario. Shel [Original Message] From: David J Brooks Its been going for about 5 1/2 hours now. I clicked the next button on the pop up window and its been sitting there for all this time, no new window. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO: dogs
To be totally honest: This is a mixed bag for me. I don't like the framing in 2, 3, 7 and 11. Could be art for all that I know, but I dislike them ;-) It could also be because I'm not a fan of miniature dogs. The rest are funny, superb, brilliant, etc. The presentation is fine by me. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Sent: 8. september 2006 03:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO: dogs [another of my lost messages--hopefully nobody gets it twice] Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probaby seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) Feedback of all sorts is most welcome. j -- Juan Buhler Check out my book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO: dogs
Juan, First of all, flash rocks. Second of all, great GESO. I like the grab-n-go nature of the shots and don't mind at all the skewed composition...it works. Really nice work. -Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Sent: 8. september 2006 03:04 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO: dogs [another of my lost messages--hopefully nobody gets it twice] Here's a gallery of some street pictures with dogs in them. You guys have probaby seen some of the pictures. All of them taken with the istD, except one, shot on TriX with the Leica. I'm playing with a couple of new flash based gallery tools. I'm interested in hearing how this works for you--do you hate it? Is it a mistake to not have html-only galleries? http://jbuhler.com/dogs/ (flash required, but very light as flash apps go) Feedback of all sorts is most welcome. j -- Juan Buhler Check out my book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Estimated File Size K10D
Any guesses as to the RAW file size on the forthcoming K10D? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Sunrise with DA 21mm
I have been fantasising about buying this lens to make a compact kit with the DS when(?) I buy the K10D. This image makes my urge even stronger. I (my wallet) hate(s) you George. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: 8. september 2006 04:16 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sunrise with DA 21mm Nice shot. The large version shows very good detail. I may have to buy that lens. Paul On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:46 PM, George Sinos wrote: This is rapidly becoming my favorite lens. Here's an example, shot on the way to work yesterday. It was morning, the Sun was on the way up, the mist and fog were hanging over the fields. I pulled off the highway and shot this out the side window of the car. If you have the bandwidth, check the full size version. I'm not sure how well the details survived the jpg compression, but I made a 13x19 test print and the detail is sharp as a tack. Look at the power structures on the horizon. medium size http://georgesphotos.net/photos/93757233-M.jpg original http://georgesphotos.net/photos/93757233-O.jpg The little black specs in the sky (upper left corner) are not dust. Look close, they are birds. There is some sensor dust showing in the sky, it is lighter colored circles. It needs a bit of judicious cropping and some cleanup, but it looks great as a big test print. See you later, gs http://georgesphotos.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Estimated File Size K10D
On 08.09.2006, at 19:40 , Shel Belinkoff wrote: Any guesses as to the RAW file size on the forthcoming K10D? Probably about 15-16MB just like in Nikon D200. Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway
I sometimes hesitate to put up a GESO because I think individual photos get lost among the many. These are 34 shots from last weekends backpacking trip in the Sawtooths. All taken with *ist D. Lenses used were the Tamron 28-300, Pentax 31/1.8 LTD, Pentax FA 100/2.8 Macro, and the Zenitar 16 Fisheye. Idaho - It's just not for potatoes anymore. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=328456 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Schooner Passes Falkners Light III (variations)
Unfortunately I haven't looked at them all yet either. I have no complaints about this one whatsoever. Very, very nice Peter! http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersiiis.html Tom C. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Schooner Passes Falkners Light III (variations) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 22:23:00 +0100 On 7/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersiiis.html best of the set IMO. Lovely. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway
Tom - looks like a nice collection of images - I only looked @ the thumbnails though. The presentation format isn't conducive to reviewing each image @ screen size (have to go back to gallery to look @ next image) ;+( FWIW - I would probably spend more time on the individual images if they were presented on by one, something I've been bothered by with many postings of galleries for review. ;+) Your gallery looks like the kind of images I seek when in the field. ;+) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway I sometimes hesitate to put up a GESO because I think individual photos get lost among the many. These are 34 shots from last weekends backpacking trip in the Sawtooths. All taken with *ist D. Lenses used were the Tamron 28-300, Pentax 31/1.8 LTD, Pentax FA 100/2.8 Macro, and the Zenitar 16 Fisheye. Idaho - It's just not for potatoes anymore. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=328456 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release
As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... Remember when I posted a bunch of new info about the camera that I got from my Pentax rep? Well, Pentax's engineers in Japan found my e-mail through Google and I got in trouble for it (I hadn't been told about the non-disclosure agreement my store signed, so I got off easy). I wish I could tell everything I know about the camera, but I don't want to get in trouble again, and I'm sure that's how other people with privileged knowledge feel about the situation. It's already frustrating enough; please don't make it worse by begging. The official press release will happen soon enough. Just be patient and you'll hear it all straight from the horse's mouth. John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS: several Pentax lenses (and an AF body)
As I said, I'd love to get the 15mm but you can do much better than my budget on e-bay. Good luck. Carlos Royo wrote: I think this is the last try. If there are no takers, the lenses will be put on sale in Ebay: SMC Pentax-A 15 mm. 3.5, , an excellent ultra wide lens, compatible in all exposure modes with Pentax DSLRs, LN- 500 euros. Tokina 28-70 2.6-2.8 ATX Pro II (for Pentax AF). LN in box, including both caps, hood and instruction manual. A very well made, fast pro zoom. 200 euros. SMC Pentax 85 mm. 1.8 (K series)+ original lens hood, well used, but no dust inside. The lens was serviced 3 years ago and shows some brassing, but the aperture and focus rings work smoothly, There's a very tiny coating mark (a tiny hairline) in the back element, hardly visible, which doesn't affect the image quality. As many of you will know, nowadays it is a very difficult to find lens, and when found, much more expensive. 250 euros. SMC Pentax-FA 80-320 mm. 4.5-5.6 (AF, black version). I also include an original Pentax rigid clip-on hood, the one made for the K 80-200 4.5, much better than the hood Pentax proposes for the 80-320 . Ex+. 120 euros. Pentax MZ-5 AF SLR (boxed,with Spanish instruction manual) + F remote switch and FG AA battery pack. Ex+. 120 euros. Prices don't include shipping expenses from Spain. Regards, Carlos -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
I have one. Bill Lawlor wrote: I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. Thanks, Bill Lawlor www.wvlphotography.com -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway
Well, a gallery is a gallery... Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:09:15 -0400 Tom - looks like a nice collection of images - I only looked @ the thumbnails though. The presentation format isn't conducive to reviewing each image @ screen size (have to go back to gallery to look @ next image) ;+( FWIW - I would probably spend more time on the individual images if they were presented on by one, something I've been bothered by with many postings of galleries for review. ;+) Your gallery looks like the kind of images I seek when in the field. ;+) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway I sometimes hesitate to put up a GESO because I think individual photos get lost among the many. These are 34 shots from last weekends backpacking trip in the Sawtooths. All taken with *ist D. Lenses used were the Tamron 28-300, Pentax 31/1.8 LTD, Pentax FA 100/2.8 Macro, and the Zenitar 16 Fisheye. Idaho - It's just not for potatoes anymore. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=328456 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Taking Candy from a baby.
I suspect that dentists are closet sadists. See Little Shop of Horrors for more information. Norman Baugher wrote: I do about dentists... Norm From: Juey Chong Ong On Sep 7, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Bob Shell wrote: What bothers me most is that these kids will have negative feelings about photographers for the rest of their lives. Do grown-ups have negative feelings about doctors for the rest of their lives? -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release
Maybe if Pentax released enough details about the camera - to the public - before it goes on sale to the public, they would generate demand. Why should it be a hush hush secret? That would be a ridiculous approach. What would be lost? It's not some stealth corporate hi-tech espionage affair. How can you, a private individual and customer, get in trouble from a corporation that holds no authority over you? If Pentax Japan did not want anybody to know then they should not have told anybody. What is gained by telling dealers who are forbidden to tell the customer? The whole thing is preposterous. Tom C. From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:05:35 -0700 As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... Remember when I posted a bunch of new info about the camera that I got from my Pentax rep? Well, Pentax's engineers in Japan found my e-mail through Google and I got in trouble for it (I hadn't been told about the non-disclosure agreement my store signed, so I got off easy). I wish I could tell everything I know about the camera, but I don't want to get in trouble again, and I'm sure that's how other people with privileged knowledge feel about the situation. It's already frustrating enough; please don't make it worse by begging. The official press release will happen soon enough. Just be patient and you'll hear it all straight from the horse's mouth. John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D Resolving power
A quick review. Is there any significance to the noted press release claim that the K10D contains a newly developed high performance A/D converter which allows the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2m gradations) among all existing digital cameras Do we agree that it's extreme overkill (considering sensor pixel count) and only hollow hype to grab the shopper? Thanks! Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
P. J. Alling wrote: I have one. And not parting with it? Me too :)) Bill Lawlor wrote: I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. Thanks, Bill Lawlor -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|NK -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway
Tom all I was trying to say was that I would have reviewed each image in detail if the presentation format was more user friendly. I have nothing against galleries per se. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Well, a gallery is a gallery... Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:09:15 -0400 Tom - looks like a nice collection of images - I only looked @ the thumbnails though. The presentation format isn't conducive to reviewing each image @ screen size (have to go back to gallery to look @ next image) ;+( FWIW - I would probably spend more time on the individual images if they were presented on by one, something I've been bothered by with many postings of galleries for review. ;+) Your gallery looks like the kind of images I seek when in the field. ;+) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway I sometimes hesitate to put up a GESO because I think individual photos get lost among the many. These are 34 shots from last weekends backpacking trip in the Sawtooths. All taken with *ist D. Lenses used were the Tamron 28-300, Pentax 31/1.8 LTD, Pentax FA 100/2.8 Macro, and the Zenitar 16 Fisheye. Idaho - It's just not for potatoes anymore. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=328456 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release
Maybe they're afraid that Canon and Nikon will quickly retool and beat the Pentax technology to the market place? ;-))) Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Pentax released enough details about the camera - to the public - before it goes on sale to the public, they would generate demand. Why should it be a hush hush secret? That would be a ridiculous approach. What would be lost? It's not some stealth corporate hi-tech espionage affair. How can you, a private individual and customer, get in trouble from a corporation that holds no authority over you? If Pentax Japan did not want anybody to know then they should not have told anybody. What is gained by telling dealers who are forbidden to tell the customer? The whole thing is preposterous. Tom C. From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:05:35 -0700 As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... Remember when I posted a bunch of new info about the camera that I got from my Pentax rep? Well, Pentax's engineers in Japan found my e-mail through Google and I got in trouble for it (I hadn't been told about the non-disclosure agreement my store signed, so I got off easy). I wish I could tell everything I know about the camera, but I don't want to get in trouble again, and I'm sure that's how other people with privileged knowledge feel about the situation. It's already frustrating enough; please don't make it worse by begging. The official press release will happen soon enough. Just be patient and you'll hear it all straight from the horse's mouth. John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB 43 Limited
The rebates didn't apply to Canada, hence you won't be seeing it at the Camera Canada. dk On 9/7/06, Bill Lawlor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed that BH and Adorama no longer have the 43mm Ltd with rebate in stock. Can anyone direct me to a source? I tried Canada Camera but they don't show the rebates. Thanks, Bill Lawlor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO -- Schooner Passes Falkners Light III (variations)
I'd like to than everyone who commented. I really appreciated the feedback. I'm going to try my hand at a new version of the original, as well as a shot at one more in a few days with a similar though slightly different ship location. I was hoping for somewhat more of a consensus yea or nae on the sepia vs BW vs original color versions, but that seems to be all over the place. I guess you can satisfy some of the PDML some of the time... Tom C wrote: Unfortunately I haven't looked at them all yet either. I have no complaints about this one whatsoever. Very, very nice Peter! http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersiiis.html Tom C. From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Schooner Passes Falkners Light III (variations) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 22:23:00 +0100 On 7/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_schoonerpassesfaulknersiiis.html best of the set IMO. Lovely. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway
I know Ken... it's just that I spent a good 8 - 12 hours going through the images, processing them from RAW, and building the presentation, and the first wise guy that looks at it comes along and says (sort of) 'not worth my time to look because it'll take an extra mouse-click per picture'... :-) Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:42:28 -0400 Tom all I was trying to say was that I would have reviewed each image in detail if the presentation format was more user friendly. I have nothing against galleries per se. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Well, a gallery is a gallery... Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:09:15 -0400 Tom - looks like a nice collection of images - I only looked @ the thumbnails though. The presentation format isn't conducive to reviewing each image @ screen size (have to go back to gallery to look @ next image) ;+( FWIW - I would probably spend more time on the individual images if they were presented on by one, something I've been bothered by with many postings of galleries for review. ;+) Your gallery looks like the kind of images I seek when in the field. ;+) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway I sometimes hesitate to put up a GESO because I think individual photos get lost among the many. These are 34 shots from last weekends backpacking trip in the Sawtooths. All taken with *ist D. Lenses used were the Tamron 28-300, Pentax 31/1.8 LTD, Pentax FA 100/2.8 Macro, and the Zenitar 16 Fisheye. Idaho - It's just not for potatoes anymore. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=328456 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: dogs
Thanks everybody for the comments. Shel: I'm not sure I will change all my galleries into this. I like it, but I need to work out a few details first. In any case, I would make the flash an option and keep an html gallery parallel to it. OT, but you should look into DSL at least. I don't know how much you're paying for dialup, but you can get DSL these days for $15 or so a month in our area. For those of you curious, I used Autoviewer, which can be gotten for free here: http://www.airtightinteractive.com/projects/autoviewer/ Cheers, j -- Juan Buhler Check out my book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Resolving power
Jack Davis wrote: A quick review. Is there any significance to the noted press release claim that the K10D contains a newly developed high performance A/D converter which allows the highest resolving power (22 bits, or 4.2m gradations) among all existing digital cameras Do we agree that it's extreme overkill (considering sensor pixel count) and only hollow hype to grab the shopper? Thanks! Jack It's likely to give better resolution with regards to colour, but not to detail (which is predicated on sensor resolution and lens resolution). -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway
Tom -You misunderstand me. Do you think I was being as wise gut by honestly commenting on your post? ...'not worth my time to look because it'll take an extra mouse-click per picture'... :-) I'm on dial up, like others it takes a lot of time to view your images (like some others) which don't let the viewer go from image to image without going back to the gallery. As I said, I've noticed this situation with other posted galleries just happened to mention this to you. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway I know Ken... it's just that I spent a good 8 - 12 hours going through the images, processing them from RAW, and building the presentation, and the first wise guy that looks at it comes along and says (sort of) 'not worth my time to look because it'll take an extra mouse-click per picture'... :-) Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:42:28 -0400 Tom all I was trying to say was that I would have reviewed each image in detail if the presentation format was more user friendly. I have nothing against galleries per se. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Well, a gallery is a gallery... Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 15:09:15 -0400 Tom - looks like a nice collection of images - I only looked @ the thumbnails though. The presentation format isn't conducive to reviewing each image @ screen size (have to go back to gallery to look @ next image) ;+( FWIW - I would probably spend more time on the individual images if they were presented on by one, something I've been bothered by with many postings of galleries for review. ;+) Your gallery looks like the kind of images I seek when in the field. ;+) Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GESO - Petit Lake to Lake Toxaway I sometimes hesitate to put up a GESO because I think individual photos get lost among the many. These are 34 shots from last weekends backpacking trip in the Sawtooths. All taken with *ist D. Lenses used were the Tamron 28-300, Pentax 31/1.8 LTD, Pentax FA 100/2.8 Macro, and the Zenitar 16 Fisheye. Idaho - It's just not for potatoes anymore. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=328456 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release
You know... that's the only conclusion I can reach as well... LOL. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Maybe they're afraid that Canon and Nikon will quickly retool and beat the Pentax technology to the market place? ;-))) Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if Pentax released enough details about the camera - to the public - before it goes on sale to the public, they would generate demand. Why should it be a hush hush secret? That would be a ridiculous approach. What would be lost? It's not some stealth corporate hi-tech espionage affair. How can you, a private individual and customer, get in trouble from a corporation that holds no authority over you? If Pentax Japan did not want anybody to know then they should not have told anybody. What is gained by telling dealers who are forbidden to tell the customer? The whole thing is preposterous. Tom C. From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:05:35 -0700 As for the supposed press release, if it is real will someone just post the whole thing already? It makes no sense to post just bits and pieces. If you are really leaking confidential information, just go the whole way and leak ALL of it :-)... Remember when I posted a bunch of new info about the camera that I got from my Pentax rep? Well, Pentax's engineers in Japan found my e-mail through Google and I got in trouble for it (I hadn't been told about the non-disclosure agreement my store signed, so I got off easy). I wish I could tell everything I know about the camera, but I don't want to get in trouble again, and I'm sure that's how other people with privileged knowledge feel about the situation. It's already frustrating enough; please don't make it worse by begging. The official press release will happen soon enough. Just be patient and you'll hear it all straight from the horse's mouth. John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Competitors and Press Release
On Sep 8, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Tom C wrote: Maybe if Pentax released enough details about the camera - to the public - before it goes on sale to the public, they would generate demand. Why should it be a hush hush secret? That would be a ridiculous approach. What would be lost? It's not some stealth corporate hi-tech espionage affair. How can you, a private individual and customer, get in trouble from a corporation that holds no authority over you? If Pentax Japan did not want anybody to know then they should not have told anybody. What is gained by telling dealers who are forbidden to tell the customer? The whole thing is preposterous. Pretty much. These things are often controlled releases of information. They know full well the info will get onto lists like this in hours. Once they tell a couple of people who don't actually work for Pentax, it is only a matter of time, and not usually very much time until it is spread worldwide. But they must maintain the illusion of control and an official release date. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
