Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
On 14/9/06, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: My order is in. Is yours? You make it sound very inviting I have to say. Nope. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. I bet you had to scramble to come up with that one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind
Yes it's possible the *ist-D and K10D both have a [+/-] button on the back, just press press it and spin a wheel. It works fine on the D in Hyper mode. I would expect it to be the same on the K10D. Tim Øsleby wrote: In the custom menus I find this option: Program line 1: Normal 2: Hi speed 3: Depth 4: MTF Is this what you are referring to? Directly switching between those modes. This raises another question. Is it impossible to make exposure compensation in Hyper mode? That's one big limitation, if that's the case. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 19:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind Program Shift allows you to scroll through a series of different Aperture/Shutter combinations of equivalent exposure. I use it all the time on my D50, F601m and Rebel XS. The combination of Program shift (Allowing me to scroll to a desired aperture or shutter) and exposure compensation is more useful than the admittedly cool HyperProgram, as I can easily select for aperture and shutter while getting faster exposure compensation adjustment. HyperProgram is far better for selecting a desired aperture or shutter speed for multiple shots. I am wondering if the HyperProgram configuration will allow the custom functions regarding the second wheel to come into effect when dropping into Av or Tv mode, or whether the differing wheels will always be Av/Tv. Using the wheel to drop into Av or Tv mode and then the other wheel setting exposure compensation (like you can configure for when Av and Tv are set on the dial) would be more useful for me than the ability to instantly switch between Av and Tv modes. I certainly wouldn't mind having ot go back to the main program line before switching into the other priority mode. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: What's P-shift? What does it do? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 02:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind The configurable dial setups for Program, Sv, Tv, and Av modes include options to have one dial set exposure compensation (A la the Canon rear dial) and offers either HyperProgram or Program Shift + EV Comp in Program mode. The latter is a dream of mine for a non-Canon camera to have (HyperProgram does rock, but I use EV Comp much more). It's becoming more and more clear that the K10D does just about everything I want. The only missing item is the Dust-Removal menu offers only 'On Startup' or 'Do it now' options, not a 'On Lens Change' option. But the ability to turn it off on startup and select it manually solves one major complaint with this feature on the Oly and Sony bodies, the inherently slow startup due to dust-removal. -Adam -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
I apoligize for that, I didn't realize that Dave had changed the pictures... P. J. Alling wrote: Look again Bob, Dave's right. Bob Shell wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: I think you picture the diafragm release and the diafragm actuator (nine o'clock position in the mount, right?). Those are the pins responsible for actually stopping the lens down at exposure time, and definately still there in the digital bodies and lenses. The missing ones are at the two o'clock position when facing the camera. Does not invalidate the explanation, though :o) Correct. David has shown the wrong pins/levers. Right idea, wrong pics. Bob -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
You'll fry for this Cotty. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
On 14/9/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: given the runaway success they're having with the K100D and the upcoming K10D ... Why Godders, I've always thought of you as a man of consideration and reason. There wouldn't be an element of *hype* involved in this statement would there ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Ken, keep drinking the sake mate. If Pentax brings out a K1D in 2007 I'll fly over there, we'll wander down the ol' Hakibara and I'll buy you one. I did not bet, but you did, so it's a deal ! :-). Jot this down. Duly jotted. Actually Japan is the one place in the world I would dearly love to visit. Watch this space ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Don't forget the silver metal and leatherette body. Tom C. Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. P.J. Alling -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 14/9/06, Gonz, discombobulated, unleashed: Wait... aren't you already 0 for 1 on bets over Pentax? ;) Were'nt you supposed to eat your hat or something like that if something like the K10D came out this year? Are you tempting fate? :) Bullpucky. K1D. The hat is still being worn. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
On 9/14/06 3:11 PM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My order is in. Is yours? You make it sound very inviting I have to say. Nope. He is crying as he has to save up for me for the 2007 budget :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
Hi! *Pentaxgasm*HotDamnIHaveToGoChangeMyUnderwear! Thanks for your report, John. My order is in. Is yours? Not bloody likely... -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
On 14/9/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been looking at it, and I think it looks smaller than it actually is. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D has auto image rotation
On 14/9/06, luka6000, discombobulated, unleashed: so it's the way You wanted - Rotation may be saved but not applied to image on the lcd :) Damn. I'm going to have to foresake my 1D for that. Or I could just switch the bugger off. Look, the only way you're going to tempt me is if I see an A*85mm f/1.4 aboard a K10D, and even then, I might try and hack an EF mount onto the K10D ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Black plastic would be fine. Though silver plastic is a probability. Say, I wonder how those Silver and Black *ist-Ds/DL's sold. Not well at all I'm sure. Tom C wrote: Don't forget the silver metal and leatherette body. Tom C. Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. P.J. Alling -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 14/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: Seriously, come to think of it. They probably have no choice but to do it in order to keep us with the competitions, not that I care too much about it at this point. K10D is making my tail wagging :-). But I would not refuse to take a nice gift of K1D from Cotty :-). The problem is that every time Pentax brings out a product, it's 2 years too late. If the K10D was due out, and it was now exactly September 2005, that would be brilliant and groundbreaking. That's LX territory. But it's 2006, and they're not. I'm not knocking the K10D, it looks fabulous on the net, and I'm sure it's everything John Celio raves about. I would even consider one when I have some spare wedge. But I want the K1D, and now! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D has auto image rotation
The A*85 f1.4 is a no brainer on the K10D. It's the M 85 f2.0 that hurts. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, luka6000, discombobulated, unleashed: so it's the way You wanted - Rotation may be saved but not applied to image on the lcd :) Damn. I'm going to have to foresake my 1D for that. Or I could just switch the bugger off. Look, the only way you're going to tempt me is if I see an A*85mm f/1.4 aboard a K10D, and even then, I might try and hack an EF mount onto the K10D ;-) -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K 30/2.8 the poor mans FA 31/1.8
Peter Smekal wrote: Thanks so far. When it comes to the FA28/2.8 I remember some people were critical of the light fall off wide open. Peter I have used the FA 28 mm. 2.8 both in film and digital, and I haven't seen any noticeable fall off wide open in real life situations. It performs really well. As I said, the FA 35 mm. 2.0 is a slightly better, sharper lens, but the FA 28 is also an excellent performer. Even wide open, if the focus is right (depth of field is shallow at 2.8) pictures come out nicely. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. I bet you had to scramble to come up with that one. I can't wait to see what else this thread hatches. Kenneth Waller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed
You only got 4?? I got 6 with noise reduction off. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much better than the D's 4 RAW's or 6 JPEG's. If the D had been 6 RAW I'd likely still own it, the 2 shot difference is a big one for me (6 is enough to keep me from hitting the slow-down, 4 is not). -Adam Gonz wrote: The new specs say 9 @ RAW. :( Not as good as 12, but better than the D's 6. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wo-hoo! 12 RAW shots at 3 FPS. JPEG's at 3FPS: The card is the limit! Tha'ts what I want! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 12. september 2006 20:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: K10D Buffer Size/Speed 12 RAW @ 3fps ... might that indicate a bigger or faster buffer? If so, then maybe the camera will take advantage of faster SD cards, like 120X or greater. Might be worth checking out before buying cards. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a happy Pentaxian: Dual exposure wheels, ISO 100, Hyper Program mode, and up to 12 RAW at 3fps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll fry for this Cotty. It takes some huevos to say that to a big man. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Recommendation for telezoom?
I have been very impressed with the performance of the FA 80-320/4.5-5.6. It's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but it is very good for the money. It sells new for below $200 and used for significantly less. I posted a shot from the zoo just recently. This is at 320mm, hand held, wide open: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4894709size=lg On Sep 14, 2006, at 5:38 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: I have a friend who looks for a cheap telezoom for his film-based Pentax. I haven't paid attention to this part of the lens lineup for years, so I need some help in finding the right recommendations. Do you have any suggestions? I guess he would like a few so that he can make a trade-off decision between wallet and quality...:-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Does this mean what I think it means?
Adam Maas a écrit : From the Pentax France Page: Le traitement interne des fichiers RAW permet d'agir sur la taille, la compression, la balance des blancs, le réglage des ISO (Pentax est le seul), le ton de l'image, la saturation, la netteté et le contraste. via Babelfish: The internal treatment of files RAW makes it possible to act on the size, compression, the balance of the white, the adjustment of the ISO (Pentax is only), the tone of the image, saturation, clearness and contrast. It sounds like ISO adjustment in post is possible with RAW files. That would be an earth-shaking capability. -Adam Hi, French is my mother tongue (as my name suggests), and I can say that the babelfish translation is accurate in saying that it is possible to *act* on ... the ISO adjustment. To my ears this means that the ISO can be somehow (?) set at post-processing. How they achieve such a result while storing only the 12bits in the RAW file is still a mystery to me. I wouldn't say so if at least 4 more bits were stored into the RAW. Otherwise, with a 12bit RAW, +1 EV push gives roughly 11 useful bits, +4 EV (100-1600) gives only 8 useful bits = nothing I can't do with my *ist DS... Patrice -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: I predict a K1D in 2007 too. In which street will you buy me a camera? The one that runs down to the harbour ! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
The whole list is your witness, Ken. Of course, enforceability may be a problem... g cheers, the ex-lawyer Frank, thank you for your free advice ;-). Released for sale in 2007, not announced or mooted or hyped ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind
Hey, this is interesting. Sounds like a good feature. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 20:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind No. Those are the selectable program lines, which determine what values Program mode will pick by default for a given EV. Program shift lets you scroll through differing Aperture/Shutter values of the same Exposure Value, if the camera picks 1/125 at f4, you'll be able to use the dial to select 1/250 at f2.8 or 1/60 at f5.6 for example. This allows you to override the camera's exposure choice if you feel it's necessary. I tend to use it a lot as I prefer to shoot closer to wide open than the camera typically picks, but also this does mean I won't hit the wall by selecting an aperture that's too wide to get a good exposure (which happens on occasion when shooting in Av mode, especially with my film bodies, all but one of which have a lower max shutter speeds than the 1/4000 on the Pentax DSLR's). In HyperProgram mode, you set exposure compensation by holding down the Exposure Compensation button and rotating the front dial to set the exposure compensation. With Program shift and Exposure compensation selected instead of HyperProgram, one wheel is dedicated to exposure compensation and the other to program shift (which wheel is which is selectable in the custom function), so holding down the button is unnecessary. A feature I really miss from the EOS 3. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: In the custom menus I find this option: Program line 1: Normal 2: Hi speed 3: Depth 4: MTF Is this what you are referring to? Directly switching between those modes. This raises another question. Is it impossible to make exposure compensation in Hyper mode? That's one big limitation, if that's the case. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 19:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind Program Shift allows you to scroll through a series of different Aperture/Shutter combinations of equivalent exposure. I use it all the time on my D50, F601m and Rebel XS. The combination of Program shift (Allowing me to scroll to a desired aperture or shutter) and exposure compensation is more useful than the admittedly cool HyperProgram, as I can easily select for aperture and shutter while getting faster exposure compensation adjustment. HyperProgram is far better for selecting a desired aperture or shutter speed for multiple shots. I am wondering if the HyperProgram configuration will allow the custom functions regarding the second wheel to come into effect when dropping into Av or Tv mode, or whether the differing wheels will always be Av/Tv. Using the wheel to drop into Av or Tv mode and then the other wheel setting exposure compensation (like you can configure for when Av and Tv are set on the dial) would be more useful for me than the ability to instantly switch between Av and Tv modes. I certainly wouldn't mind having ot go back to the main program line before switching into the other priority mode. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: What's P-shift? What does it do? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 02:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind The configurable dial setups for Program, Sv, Tv, and Av modes include options to have one dial set exposure compensation (A la the Canon rear dial) and offers either HyperProgram or Program Shift + EV Comp in Program mode. The latter is a dream of mine for a non-Canon camera to have (HyperProgram does rock, but I use EV Comp much more). It's becoming more and more clear that the K10D does just about everything I want. The only missing item is the Dust-Removal menu offers only 'On Startup' or 'Do it now' options, not a 'On Lens Change' option. But the ability to turn it off on startup and select it manually solves one major complaint with this feature on the Oly and Sony bodies, the inherently slow startup due to dust-removal. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Pretty well over here, all the DL's we got were Silver. DS/DS2's and DL2's were black. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Black plastic would be fine. Though silver plastic is a probability. Say, I wonder how those Silver and Black *ist-Ds/DL's sold. Not well at all I'm sure. Tom C wrote: Don't forget the silver metal and leatherette body. Tom C. Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. P.J. Alling -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed
NR off I got 4, as per the spec. -Adam Gonz wrote: You only got 4?? I got 6 with noise reduction off. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much better than the D's 4 RAW's or 6 JPEG's. If the D had been 6 RAW I'd likely still own it, the 2 shot difference is a big one for me (6 is enough to keep me from hitting the slow-down, 4 is not). -Adam Gonz wrote: The new specs say 9 @ RAW. :( Not as good as 12, but better than the D's 6. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wo-hoo! 12 RAW shots at 3 FPS. JPEG's at 3FPS: The card is the limit! Tha'ts what I want! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 7 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 12. september 2006 20:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: K10D Buffer Size/Speed 12 RAW @ 3fps ... might that indicate a bigger or faster buffer? If so, then maybe the camera will take advantage of faster SD cards, like 120X or greater. Might be worth checking out before buying cards. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a happy Pentaxian: Dual exposure wheels, ISO 100, Hyper Program mode, and up to 12 RAW at 3fps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: Seriously, come to think of it. They probably have no choice but to do it in order to keep us with the competitions, not that I care too much about it at this point. K10D is making my tail wagging :-). But I would not refuse to take a nice gift of K1D from Cotty :-). The problem is that every time Pentax brings out a product, it's 2 years too late. If the K10D was due out, and it was now exactly September 2005, that would be brilliant and groundbreaking. That's LX territory. But it's 2006, and they're not. I'm not knocking the K10D, it looks fabulous on the net, and I'm sure it's everything John Celio raves about. I would even consider one when I have some spare wedge. But I want the K1D, and now! I've got to disagree with you. The K10D is more camera than the competition and available essentially at the same time. The K100D on the other hand... I'd also love to see a K1D, and Photokina would be the ideal place to launch it. Dunno if I could afford one, but it would certainly drive some exposure for Pentax to introduce something in the D2x/1DmkIIN class. especially if it offered SR. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 14/9/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: The problem is that every time Pentax brings out a product, it's 2 years too late. If the K10D was due out, and it was now exactly September 2005, that would be brilliant and groundbreaking. That's LX territory. of course, 2 years previous is 2004. My bad. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:24:45 -0700, John Celio wrote: My order is in. Is yours? Yup, for 4 days now ;-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Green button and ergonomics.
Something tells me that this thread is wiggling into a dead end. Have fun guys, I got the answer I need. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: 14. september 2006 21:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. I bet you had to scramble to come up with that one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Give it up, Peter ... no aperture simulator will be forthcoming. Even if pentax wanted to use it, it would require a redesign of the camera, not the thing to be doing when you want to _lower_ the cost and selling price. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. John Francis wrote: After that I'd see a K1000D as a good candidate - it would be pretty close to a K100D, after all; perhaps no more than dropping the picture modes (and slimming filters :-), and probably losing the on-board flash (as the MZ-M did). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Funny, I've never seen a silver one, in the flesh, so to speak... Adam Maas wrote: Pretty well over here, all the DL's we got were Silver. DS/DS2's and DL2's were black. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Black plastic would be fine. Though silver plastic is a probability. Say, I wonder how those Silver and Black *ist-Ds/DL's sold. Not well at all I'm sure. Tom C wrote: Don't forget the silver metal and leatherette body. Tom C. Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. P.J. Alling -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
On 14/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: He is crying as he has to save up for me for the 2007 budget :-). Oh yeah, I forgot to say that once you've got your K1D, you've got to shoot me in a love-pod hotel with your sister !! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Does this mean what I think it means?
Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: Adam Maas a écrit : From the Pentax France Page: Le traitement interne des fichiers RAW permet d'agir sur la taille, la compression, la balance des blancs, le réglage des ISO (Pentax est le seul), le ton de l'image, la saturation, la netteté et le contraste. via Babelfish: The internal treatment of files RAW makes it possible to act on the size, compression, the balance of the white, the adjustment of the ISO (Pentax is only), the tone of the image, saturation, clearness and contrast. It sounds like ISO adjustment in post is possible with RAW files. That would be an earth-shaking capability. -Adam Hi, French is my mother tongue (as my name suggests), and I can say that the babelfish translation is accurate in saying that it is possible to *act* on ... the ISO adjustment. To my ears this means that the ISO can be somehow (?) set at post-processing. How they achieve such a result while storing only the 12bits in the RAW file is still a mystery to me. I wouldn't say so if at least 4 more bits were stored into the RAW. Otherwise, with a 12bit RAW, +1 EV push gives roughly 11 useful bits, +4 EV (100-1600) gives only 8 useful bits = nothing I can't do with my *ist DS... Patrice My french is passable and that's what I came up with. The DPReview Preview indicates that you can set ISO when processing RAW's in-camera, after shooting. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Leica M8 digital unveiled
Its real, or so it would seem, since its now up on DPreview. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while we're having a love fest on the K10D another leak ... in french (babelfish does a good translation) http://www.macandphoto.com/2006/09/prise_en_main_d.html I think I saw a couple of pigs flying south a few moments ago ... ;-) I'll drool anyway. Even if it's real, I could never afford it, so ontological verity is somewhat moot. g -frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Shel, The K1000D has likely not been designed yet. And it could always use parts from the MZ-M. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: Give it up, Peter ... no aperture simulator will be forthcoming. Even if pentax wanted to use it, it would require a redesign of the camera, not the thing to be doing when you want to _lower_ the cost and selling price. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. John Francis wrote: After that I'd see a K1000D as a good candidate - it would be pretty close to a K100D, after all; perhaps no more than dropping the picture modes (and slimming filters :-), and probably losing the on-board flash (as the MZ-M did). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind
It is, though hyper program isn't really a new thing. It's much like the EV locked aperture/shutter speed combinations you find on some older cameras. My Kodak Retina IIc works that way, or would if the retaining spring weren't worn out. It's a mechanical mechanism but the same basic concept. Tim Øsleby wrote: Hey, this is interesting. Sounds like a good feature. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 20:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind No. Those are the selectable program lines, which determine what values Program mode will pick by default for a given EV. Program shift lets you scroll through differing Aperture/Shutter values of the same Exposure Value, if the camera picks 1/125 at f4, you'll be able to use the dial to select 1/250 at f2.8 or 1/60 at f5.6 for example. This allows you to override the camera's exposure choice if you feel it's necessary. I tend to use it a lot as I prefer to shoot closer to wide open than the camera typically picks, but also this does mean I won't hit the wall by selecting an aperture that's too wide to get a good exposure (which happens on occasion when shooting in Av mode, especially with my film bodies, all but one of which have a lower max shutter speeds than the 1/4000 on the Pentax DSLR's). In HyperProgram mode, you set exposure compensation by holding down the Exposure Compensation button and rotating the front dial to set the exposure compensation. With Program shift and Exposure compensation selected instead of HyperProgram, one wheel is dedicated to exposure compensation and the other to program shift (which wheel is which is selectable in the custom function), so holding down the button is unnecessary. A feature I really miss from the EOS 3. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: In the custom menus I find this option: Program line 1: Normal 2: Hi speed 3: Depth 4: MTF Is this what you are referring to? Directly switching between those modes. This raises another question. Is it impossible to make exposure compensation in Hyper mode? That's one big limitation, if that's the case. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 19:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind Program Shift allows you to scroll through a series of different Aperture/Shutter combinations of equivalent exposure. I use it all the time on my D50, F601m and Rebel XS. The combination of Program shift (Allowing me to scroll to a desired aperture or shutter) and exposure compensation is more useful than the admittedly cool HyperProgram, as I can easily select for aperture and shutter while getting faster exposure compensation adjustment. HyperProgram is far better for selecting a desired aperture or shutter speed for multiple shots. I am wondering if the HyperProgram configuration will allow the custom functions regarding the second wheel to come into effect when dropping into Av or Tv mode, or whether the differing wheels will always be Av/Tv. Using the wheel to drop into Av or Tv mode and then the other wheel setting exposure compensation (like you can configure for when Av and Tv are set on the dial) would be more useful for me than the ability to instantly switch between Av and Tv modes. I certainly wouldn't mind having ot go back to the main program line before switching into the other priority mode. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: What's P-shift? What does it do? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 02:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind The configurable dial setups for Program, Sv, Tv, and Av modes include options to have one dial set exposure compensation (A la the Canon rear dial) and offers either HyperProgram or Program Shift + EV Comp in Program mode. The latter is a dream of mine for a non-Canon camera to have (HyperProgram does rock, but I use EV Comp much more). It's becoming more and more clear that the K10D does just about everything I want. The only missing item is the Dust-Removal menu offers only 'On Startup' or 'Do it now' options, not a 'On Lens Change' option. But the ability to turn it off on startup and select it manually solves one major complaint with this feature on the Oly and Sony bodies, the inherently slow startup due to dust-removal. -Adam -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML
Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NR off I got 4, as per the spec. Thats strange to me. Are there different versions of the camera? Anybody else out there get 6 raw continuous? -Adam Gonz wrote: You only got 4?? I got 6 with noise reduction off. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much better than the D's 4 RAW's or 6 JPEG's. If the D had been 6 RAW I'd likely still own it, the 2 shot difference is a big one for me (6 is enough to keep me from hitting the slow-down, 4 is not). -Adam Gonz wrote: The new specs say 9 @ RAW. :( Not as good as 12, but better than the D's 6. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wo-hoo! 12 RAW shots at 3 FPS. JPEG's at 3FPS: The card is the limit! Tha'ts what I want! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 7 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 12. september 2006 20:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: K10D Buffer Size/Speed 12 RAW @ 3fps ... might that indicate a bigger or faster buffer? If so, then maybe the camera will take advantage of faster SD cards, like 120X or greater. Might be worth checking out before buying cards. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a happy Pentaxian: Dual exposure wheels, ISO 100, Hyper Program mode, and up to 12 RAW at 3fps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
The plastic felt cheaper and more flexible. Didn't like it as much as the DS, despite having the same build internally. Plus I prefer black cameras. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Funny, I've never seen a silver one, in the flesh, so to speak... Adam Maas wrote: Pretty well over here, all the DL's we got were Silver. DS/DS2's and DL2's were black. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Black plastic would be fine. Though silver plastic is a probability. Say, I wonder how those Silver and Black *ist-Ds/DL's sold. Not well at all I'm sure. Tom C wrote: Don't forget the silver metal and leatherette body. Tom C. Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. P.J. Alling -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Tom, if you express a negative wish or hoe you are hopelessly negative. Although the idea of abandoning AA Cells is a drawback in my eyes, too. Not nearly an as severe drawback like abandoning aperture couplers, but a real drawback. Until today I have nearly only equipment that runs with standard cells, so starting with dedicated batteries would increase hassle a lot, as I would give up interchageability. Pancho Tom C schrieb: I didn't assume. It was an expressed *hope* that they don't, based on historical precedent. And I stand by it. You perceive that as negativity as opposed to just expressing a wish? Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:45:39 -0400 And started off by saying that you assumed Pentax would make several lower-spec versions and that that was a bad thing. -Adam Tom C wrote: Are you sure you thought out what you just wrote? I haven't expressed anything negative about the K10D (except my wish to still be able to use off-the-shelf batteries). To the contrary I expressed that the camera was desirable and that I hope Pentax continues down this path. Tom C. From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:20:53 -0400 Tom, You've got a funny way of being honest. Always looking at the bad side first is negativity, not honesty. -Adam Tom C wrote: It's typical of many in this group to perceive honesty as negativity and criticism. Pentax is not my religion. You have expressed exactly my sentiments. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:57:04 -0700 (PDT) The K10D may be all I'll ever 'need', but, like Tom, I'd still like to see Pentax continue to build on this upgrade and the new level of respect it will likely realize. Jack --- John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nor can Tom. Pentax have just produced the most exciting camera for years (from any manufacturer), and Tom is struggling to find something negative to say. But he'll be back on form soon enough, I'm sure. And in due course he'll buy one, and then won't stop telling people how good Pentax cameras are, and how he always liked them, and never lost faith, blah, blah, blah. It was ever thus. John On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:55:55 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom C wrote: Now, if they can just avoid downgrading it more than twice and concentrate on being forward looking... I can't figure out what you mean. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 9/14/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damned Lawyers... what's yer point? -knarf -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 9/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Released for sale in 2007, not announced or mooted or hyped ;-) I don't recall that stipulation being in the original contract! -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
What have you been playing with? 8-0 Jack --- Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My rep was just in with a pre-production K10D for me to play with. My opinion in one word: *Pentaxgasm*HotDamnIHaveToGoChangeMyUnderwear! Mark! I even got to play with the SR mechanism out of a K100D. It's surprisingly heavy, and helps explain why the K10D is so much bigger and heavier than my *istD (seeing them side-by-side was almost comical). The dust removal system in the K10D feels odd when you experience it for the first time. It feels like the sensor wants to jump out of the camera when it drops down for the last time to jar any dust off itself. The nice thing is that the dust removal process is very fast and doesn't interfere with taking a quick shot when you turn the camera on (unlike the Olympus SSWF system). Before you ask, no, I wasn't able to take sample photos. This was a pre- production model and was missing various features that would have affected image quality. Darn, thats what I really want to see. I want to know what the bottom line is for that 22 bit ADC. What does it do for IQ? The battery grip is really nice. The best part is that it has full functionality even without a battery inside it. This means you can have your grip on the camera without adding the extra weight of a second battery and still be able to use all the buttons on it. Compared to my classic D, some of the controls are a little confusing at first, but I have no doubt I'll be able to adapt to them quickly when I get my camera. The viewfinder? Oh my god, it's beautiful! So big, so bright! Cant wait to see it. I really like the post-processing options for RAW images in the camera. The camera's computer is very fast, so working with images can be nearly as quick as you like. The K10D's screen is interchangeable, but it is not compatible with older screens, in case anyone was wondering. It looked a teeny bit smaller than the screen in my D, but that could have been a proportional illusion (the D being a smaller camera and all). The overall feel of the camera was really nice. The added weight over my *istD is not necessarily a bad thing, and the grip rounds out everything very nicely. My order is in. Is yours? Dont tempt me! John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 9/14/06 4:25 PM, frank theriault, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Released for sale in 2007, not announced or mooted or hyped ;-) I don't recall that stipulation being in the original contract! I can accept his escape clause as long as he takes care of my sister! Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Ah, none really. frank theriault wrote: On 9/14/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damned Lawyers... what's yer point? -knarf -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Leica DIGILUX 3
So how much extra will it cost for that red dot? Adam Maas wrote: Leica's 4/3rds body is announced. Essentially a DMC-L1 with a red dot. And DPReview has a hands-on preview of the M8. -Adam -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
On 9/14/06 3:54 PM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, I forgot to say that once you've got your K1D, you've got to shoot me in a love-pod hotel with your sister !! OMG, Cotty's gone insane! My sister is 500Lb fat with mustache :-)). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT - Leica DIGILUX 3
Leica's 4/3rds body is announced. Essentially a DMC-L1 with a red dot. And DPReview has a hands-on preview of the M8. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
On 14/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: OMG, Cotty's gone insane! My sister is 500Lb fat with mustache :-)). Well we'll pick up a Phillishave in the Akihabara. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
Then you really want those pictures, but Cotty won't... K.Takeshita wrote: On 9/14/06 3:54 PM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, I forgot to say that once you've got your K1D, you've got to shoot me in a love-pod hotel with your sister !! OMG, Cotty's gone insane! My sister is 500Lb fat with mustache :-)). Ken -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Leica DIGILUX 3
Looks to be about $400 or so. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: So how much extra will it cost for that red dot? Adam Maas wrote: Leica's 4/3rds body is announced. Essentially a DMC-L1 with a red dot. And DPReview has a hands-on preview of the M8. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS: 1.2/55mm
Hi gang, I've got a spare Revuenon 1.2/55mm for sale. It's the Tomioka built one which Toshiko Takinami refers favourably to on Stan's site. It has 9 aperture blades, f-stops from 1.2 through 16, and 58mm filter thread. Glass is clean without any marks. No fungus or dirt. Snappy aperture. Slight marks of wear on the focus ring, on the bottom when focussed to infinity, that is where the short distances are printed. Focus is smooth, probably a tad less on the short end, but far away from rough. Both caps included. Pictures of the lens and a sample picture on request. 85 EUR plus shipping. Also for sale: An SMC-M 3.5/135, in good shape and technically perfect state, with both caps and lens case, for 35 EUR plus shipping. Oh, and I've got an SFXn for sale on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170027315907 I'm off until sunday night, so don't be angry on me if I don't answer any questions or request until then. Cheers, Pancho -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
K.Takeshita wrote: On 9/14/06 3:54 PM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yeah, I forgot to say that once you've got your K1D, you've got to shoot me in a love-pod hotel with your sister !! OMG, Cotty's gone insane! My sister is 500Lb fat with mustache :-)). Sounds just like his type. :-P -- Christian Skofteland http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
Also I kind of suspect that there will be lots of similar cameras shown at Photokina. That makes Pentax's lead time, what, two weeks? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: Seriously, come to think of it. They probably have no choice but to do it in order to keep us with the competitions, not that I care too much about it at this point. K10D is making my tail wagging :-). But I would not refuse to take a nice gift of K1D from Cotty :-). The problem is that every time Pentax brings out a product, it's 2 years too late. If the K10D was due out, and it was now exactly September 2005, that would be brilliant and groundbreaking. That's LX territory. But it's 2006, and they're not. I'm not knocking the K10D, it looks fabulous on the net, and I'm sure it's everything John Celio raves about. I would even consider one when I have some spare wedge. But I want the K1D, and now! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Green button and ergonomics.
Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. Are you starting another pun thread or a meringue? If I have to explain that, I'll weep. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: I've held more K10Ds than you ;)
Gonz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My rep was just in with a pre-production K10D for me to play with. My opinion in one word: *Pentaxgasm*HotDamnIHaveToGoChangeMyUnderwear! Mark! I even got to play with the SR mechanism out of a K100D. It's surprisingly heavy, and helps explain why the K10D is so much bigger and heavier than my *istD (seeing them side-by-side was almost comical). The dust removal system in the K10D feels odd when you experience it for the first time. It feels like the sensor wants to jump out of the camera when it drops down for the last time to jar any dust off itself. The nice thing is that the dust removal process is very fast and doesn't interfere with taking a quick shot when you turn the camera on (unlike the Olympus SSWF system). Before you ask, no, I wasn't able to take sample photos. This was a pre- production model and was missing various features that would have affected image quality. Darn, thats what I really want to see. I want to know what the bottom line is for that 22 bit ADC. What does it do for IQ? Don't know about intelligence but I bet it makes your wazoo look HUGE. The battery grip is really nice. The best part is that it has full functionality even without a battery inside it. This means you can have your grip on the camera without adding the extra weight of a second battery and still be able to use all the buttons on it. Compared to my classic D, some of the controls are a little confusing at first, but I have no doubt I'll be able to adapt to them quickly when I get my camera. The viewfinder? Oh my god, it's beautiful! So big, so bright! Cant wait to see it. I really like the post-processing options for RAW images in the camera. The camera's computer is very fast, so working with images can be nearly as quick as you like. The K10D's screen is interchangeable, but it is not compatible with older screens, in case anyone was wondering. It looked a teeny bit smaller than the screen in my D, but that could have been a proportional illusion (the D being a smaller camera and all). The overall feel of the camera was really nice. The added weight over my *istD is not necessarily a bad thing, and the grip rounds out everything very nicely. My order is in. Is yours? Dont tempt me! John Celio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
Amen to that. The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating owners of the *ist D, like myself, who have several CF cards. Lack of CF card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for me on the top-of-the line K10. Jim A. It's about half the size of a SD card. But that doesn't matter as far as the point people were making about the Pentax is concerned. If a camera as small as this Olympus can take a CF card and a XD card, then a slightly larger camera like the Pentax should in principle be able to take a CF and SD card. My E500 also takes XD and CF. not that I have any CF cards. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14 September 2006 14:19 To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF On 14/9/06, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed: No, xd is much smaller than a sd. Thanks Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
On 9/14/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I prefer black cameras. You must be a pro. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Leica DIGILUX 3
Based on the usual Leica pricing that's a bargain. Adam Maas wrote: Looks to be about $400 or so. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: So how much extra will it cost for that red dot? Adam Maas wrote: Leica's 4/3rds body is announced. Essentially a DMC-L1 with a red dot. And DPReview has a hands-on preview of the M8. -Adam -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ Link
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Does the list filter out certain type of emails? When the Steve Digicam's press release was taken off line, I copy and pasted the text portion to the list; but the email seemed to have disappeared and never made it to the list. There was no attachment in the email and it was about 26kB in size. That's why I was wondering if there was any filter in place. -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D on Pentax Germany site
Look at this, probably some new pictures and facts: http://tinyurl.com/km7f7 (http://www.pentax.de/_de/photo/products/index.php?gruppe=digital%20slrprodukt=19095id=uebersichtyear=2006) What I found useful: -glass pentaprism finder with 95% coverage/0.95 magnification -multiple exposure mode -PEF _or_ DNG raw files! unfortunately only APS-C size sensor. Raw file size will be roundabout 17MB. Cheers, Pancho -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
SV: K10D Buffer Size/Speed
Nope - I believe a 5 shot burst is what the D does: 5 shots (RAW) in appr. 2 secs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/469145/ Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Gonz Sendt: 14. september 2006 22:17 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NR off I got 4, as per the spec. Thats strange to me. Are there different versions of the camera? Anybody else out there get 6 raw continuous? -Adam Gonz wrote: You only got 4?? I got 6 with noise reduction off. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much better than the D's 4 RAW's or 6 JPEG's. If the D had been 6 RAW I'd likely still own it, the 2 shot difference is a big one for me (6 is enough to keep me from hitting the slow-down, 4 is not). -Adam Gonz wrote: The new specs say 9 @ RAW. :( Not as good as 12, but better than the D's 6. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wo-hoo! 12 RAW shots at 3 FPS. JPEG's at 3FPS: The card is the limit! Tha'ts what I want! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 7 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 12. september 2006 20:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: K10D Buffer Size/Speed 12 RAW @ 3fps ... might that indicate a bigger or faster buffer? If so, then maybe the camera will take advantage of faster SD cards, like 120X or greater. Might be worth checking out before buying cards. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a happy Pentaxian: Dual exposure wheels, ISO 100, Hyper Program mode, and up to 12 RAW at 3fps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
I kind of think they had to change the batteries, I've gotten a lot of variability from the ones I've been using in the D and the DS. It may be unfair but it reflects badly on the cameras. I'll bet its been one of the major complaints they've gotten. I do wish that it were possible to use AAs though, maybe in the grip, but that's water under the bridge now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that. The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating owners of the *ist D, like myself, who have several CF cards. Lack of CF card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for me on the top-of-the line K10. Jim A. It's about half the size of a SD card. But that doesn't matter as far as the point people were making about the Pentax is concerned. If a camera as small as this Olympus can take a CF card and a XD card, then a slightly larger camera like the Pentax should in principle be able to take a CF and SD card. My E500 also takes XD and CF. not that I have any CF cards. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14 September 2006 14:19 To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF On 14/9/06, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed: No, xd is much smaller than a sd. Thanks Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Wanted to buy - Epson 1280
A good friend is looking for a used Epson 1280 in good condition. Anyone here have one? Contact me OFF LIST if you do and I'll put you in touch with him. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
I would expect the new model to be relatively power hungry in comparison... especially with shake reduction. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:41:15 -0400 I kind of think they had to change the batteries, I've gotten a lot of variability from the ones I've been using in the D and the DS. It may be unfair but it reflects badly on the cameras. I'll bet its been one of the major complaints they've gotten. I do wish that it were possible to use AAs though, maybe in the grip, but that's water under the bridge now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that. The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating owners of the *ist D, like myself, who have several CF cards. Lack of CF card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for me on the top-of-the line K10. Jim A. It's about half the size of a SD card. But that doesn't matter as far as the point people were making about the Pentax is concerned. If a camera as small as this Olympus can take a CF card and a XD card, then a slightly larger camera like the Pentax should in principle be able to take a CF and SD card. My E500 also takes XD and CF. not that I have any CF cards. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 14 September 2006 14:19 To: pentax list Subject: Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF On 14/9/06, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed: No, xd is much smaller than a sd. Thanks Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ Link
On 14/9/06, Lawrence Kwan, discombobulated, unleashed: There was no attachment in the email and it was about 26kB in size. That's why I was wondering if there was any filter in place. AFAIK there is a 10k limit in the post size, plain text only. HTH. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: advice regarding lens
It is. A Pentax-F 50mm 1.4 will probably sell above 200 USD (It's supposed to be among the very best 50mm ever made on this planet). The 50mm F.1:1.2 lens is quite rare and very vaulable. Optically it's said to be quite soft wide open. Perhaps more valuable for collectors than for photographers. I'd prefer a 1.4 lens any day. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Subash Jeyan Sendt: 13. september 2006 16:25 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: advice regarding lens hi, need a little bit of advice regarding a lens. just came across what looks like a pentax k/f1.2. it just says SMC Pentax 1:1.2 50 mm and from the very helpful bojidar dimitrov's k-mount lenses page, it seems to be the k/f1.2. the lens is in very good condition, almost mint, and here in india, it is being offered for the equivalent of US$150. is that a fair price for the lens? in other words, should i be buying it at that price? btw, i am getting myself a k100d next month :) thanks in advance for your advice. regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D on Pentax Germany site
Look at this, probably some new pictures and facts: Im ersten Quartal 2007 wird es neue Objektive geben. Einige werden speziell auf die K10D abgestimmt sein. Diese verfügen dann ebenfalls über Staub- und Spritzwasserschutz. Viel wichtiger wird aber der Autofokusantrieb durch Ultraschallmotor sein. That is, in the 1st Quarter 2007, a splash protected lens optimized for the K10D with USM. Bertil -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Green button and ergonomics.
Don't worry Mike, Merriam-Webster is your friend http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-searchva=meringu e Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 14. september 2006 22:56 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. Are you starting another pun thread or a meringue? If I have to explain that, I'll weep. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Green button and ergonomics.
According to John Forbes only Luddites would use that dictionary. Guess it's why I do. Tom C. From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Green button and ergonomics. Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:42:12 +0200 Don't worry Mike, Merriam-Webster is your friend http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-searchva=meringu e Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 14. september 2006 22:56 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Green button and ergonomics. Cotty wrote: On 14/9/06, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: None. I leave the eggs to you mate. Well, let's not beat it to death then. Are you starting another pun thread or a meringue? If I have to explain that, I'll weep. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Lack of AA Battery Power - they don't have a choice
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that. The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating owners of the *ist D, like myself, who have several CF cards. Lack of CF card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for me on the top-of-the line K10. There have been complaints about lack of AA battery power, and many felt abandoned by Pentax engineers. But in fact, I don't think they have a choice. K10D requires much higher voltage to run. The DC-in is 8.3V instead of previous 6.5V. So in order to run AA batteries, especially NiMH ones, you need at least 6xAA. This is simply not possible for the size of K10D. Even with 6xNiMH AA, it may be stretching it; as the batteries run down, you may only get about 6.6V. And with the current size of the battery grip, I am not sure if there is enough room for 6 AAs, unless they make the grip much larger with a bulge for batteries. Interestingly, some reviews were negative about the use of AA in previous cameras, as they were unhappy about the lack of rechargeable solution in the included camera package. So you can't keep everyone happy. -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SV: K10D Buffer Size/Speed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope - I believe a 5 shot burst is what the D does: 5 shots (RAW) in appr. 2 secs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/469145/ Regards Jens Turn off NR and you will get one more. rg Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Gonz Sendt: 14. september 2006 22:17 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NR off I got 4, as per the spec. Thats strange to me. Are there different versions of the camera? Anybody else out there get 6 raw continuous? -Adam Gonz wrote: You only got 4?? I got 6 with noise reduction off. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much better than the D's 4 RAW's or 6 JPEG's. If the D had been 6 RAW I'd likely still own it, the 2 shot difference is a big one for me (6 is enough to keep me from hitting the slow-down, 4 is not). -Adam Gonz wrote: The new specs say 9 @ RAW. :( Not as good as 12, but better than the D's 6. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wo-hoo! 12 RAW shots at 3 FPS. JPEG's at 3FPS: The card is the limit! Tha'ts what I want! Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 7 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Shel Belinkoff Sendt: 12. september 2006 20:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: K10D Buffer Size/Speed 12 RAW @ 3fps ... might that indicate a bigger or faster buffer? If so, then maybe the camera will take advantage of faster SD cards, like 120X or greater. Might be worth checking out before buying cards. Shel [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a happy Pentaxian: Dual exposure wheels, ISO 100, Hyper Program mode, and up to 12 RAW at 3fps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/446 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 09/14/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K100D Raw question
Does Raw Shooter or the Adobe DNG convertor read K100D raw files? I dont know if RAW formats have changed from the DS, DL, etc family of cameras, and I need to look at some K100D RAW files I took from a borrowed camera. rg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Lack of AA Battery Power - they don't have a choice
So you can't keep everyone happy. That's definitely the truth. I obviously don't see the lack of AA support as a killer. Might have taken a 9V though... I would guess the they are not capable of supplying the current required... Tom C. From: Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Lack of AA Battery Power - they don't have a choice Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:43:26 -0400 (EDT) On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that. The Pentax designers could care less about accomodating owners of the *ist D, like myself, who have several CF cards. Lack of CF card slot, and the change to non-AA battery power is the big turn-off for me on the top-of-the line K10. There have been complaints about lack of AA battery power, and many felt abandoned by Pentax engineers. But in fact, I don't think they have a choice. K10D requires much higher voltage to run. The DC-in is 8.3V instead of previous 6.5V. So in order to run AA batteries, especially NiMH ones, you need at least 6xAA. This is simply not possible for the size of K10D. Even with 6xNiMH AA, it may be stretching it; as the batteries run down, you may only get about 6.6V. And with the current size of the battery grip, I am not sure if there is enough room for 6 AAs, unless they make the grip much larger with a bulge for batteries. Interestingly, some reviews were negative about the use of AA in previous cameras, as they were unhappy about the lack of rechargeable solution in the included camera package. So you can't keep everyone happy. -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K100D Raw question
I'm assuming you don't have access to the Pentax software which will convert to DNG, and likewise to the latest Adobe DNG converter to try it for yourself. I asked over at the Adobe User-to-User DNG forum where there's a short thread about Pentax cameras. You can read the messages here: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.3bbf7de8/0 I suspect it'll be a while before there's a response - you may get a faster reply here ... Shel [Original Message] From: Gonz Does Raw Shooter or the Adobe DNG convertor read K100D raw files? I dont know if RAW formats have changed from the DS, DL, etc family of cameras, and I need to look at some K100D RAW files I took from a borrowed camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D on Pentax Germany site
Pancho Hasselbach a écrit : Raw file size will be roundabout 17MB. Unsurprisingly, this means 12bit uncompressed (as indicated about everywhere)... This still does not explain the post-shoot ISO setting (or it's just some kind of exposure control). Patrice -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
I don't really understand this push for smaller and smaller DSLRs. I like a substantial (camera) body in my hands. I've got big steam shovel hands and tiny little cameras are frustrating. Also, I love the tactile nature of slr cameras...they're precision machines. These miniature cameras are more like toys to me. One reason I love my LX film body is the tactile feel of a (mostly) mechanical instrument. I for one am glad the K10D is bigger than my DL. I wouldn't want anything smaller. James - Original Message - From: K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:46 AM Subject: Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF On 9/14/06 9:45 AM, Lucas Rijnders, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do wonder how they made the E-400 so light: at 380 grams it's much less than the K100. It's like my brain. There is nothing in it :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML Mini-FAQ Link
There is a size limit, not sure just what it is but I am pretty sure Doug has it set lower than 26KB, I seem to remember his mentioning 20KB but don't hold me, or him to that. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Lawrence Kwan wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html Does the list filter out certain type of emails? When the Steve Digicam's press release was taken off line, I copy and pasted the text portion to the list; but the email seemed to have disappeared and never made it to the list. There was no attachment in the email and it was about 26kB in size. That's why I was wondering if there was any filter in place. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lack of AA Battery Power - they don't have a choice
Reviewers are not users. Always take what they say with a grain of salt, or maybe a tablespoon full. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Lawrence Kwan wrote: Interestingly, some reviews were negative about the use of AA in previous cameras, as they were unhappy about the lack of rechargeable solution in the included camera package. So you can't keep everyone happy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
Very true mate and it works well enough for me. - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Well it's quicker and more convenient than the alternative which is to not have it at all... J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. James - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring Have a look here Shel: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Misc_014.html The circled lever is the aperture simulator on my LX. This is how the body knows what the lens aperture is set to. The lever and the associated electronics are what is missing from all the DSLR's is why we have the green button kludge. The lower picture shows the lever on my M50mm f1.7. In this shot it's set at f22, but it's position changes depending on the set f stop. Cheers, Dave On 9/14/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't know what an aperture simulator is, but the earlier D-series cameras had the same menu setting, and many of us have been using lenses with aperture rings all along. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
I just tried that and while the lens does stop down, it doesn't set the exposure at 0.0. It seems I still can only do it with the DOF switch...which isn't an issue really anyway. It could be I'm doing something wrong, but I followed your instructions. James - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:58 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring CF: Set Using Aperture Ring to Permitted Mode Selector: Set exposure to M Set aperture to desired value with the ring.With the meter activated, press the AE-Lock button. Lens will stop down briefly, a reading will be taken, the shutter speed will be set to match and the meter reading will be set to the 0.0 point. It's very quick and convenient. Holding the camera on target and activating the DoF preview at this point will allow you to fine tune the setting with a +/-2 EV readout. G On Sep 14, 2006, at 4:27 AM, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
On my DL, pressing the AE-L button causes the lens to stop down for a very brief moment. If I then use the DOF preview to check the exposure, it has not been set to 0.0. - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 09:27:00PM +1000, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. James I don't believe that's correct. Operating the DOF preview stops down the lens and turns on the metering circuitry, thus allowing you to check your exposure, but doesn't change any settings. Pushing the AE-L button (if you are in manual mode, of course) will stop down the lens, meter, and then set the shutter speed automatically to what the camera calculates for correct exposure. Once you release the AE-L button the lens opens up again, and the shutter speed stays at the last calculated value until you change it (either manually or by pushing the AE-L button again). Just get in the habit of a quick press of the AE-L button before tripping the shutter and you'll hardly notice the difference. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind
You can set the program line for the camera to choose either fast shutter speed, sharpest aperture for the mounted lens or best depth of field through the custom settings. James - Original Message - From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind Program Shift allows you to scroll through a series of different Aperture/Shutter combinations of equivalent exposure. I use it all the time on my D50, F601m and Rebel XS. The combination of Program shift (Allowing me to scroll to a desired aperture or shutter) and exposure compensation is more useful than the admittedly cool HyperProgram, as I can easily select for aperture and shutter while getting faster exposure compensation adjustment. HyperProgram is far better for selecting a desired aperture or shutter speed for multiple shots. I am wondering if the HyperProgram configuration will allow the custom functions regarding the second wheel to come into effect when dropping into Av or Tv mode, or whether the differing wheels will always be Av/Tv. Using the wheel to drop into Av or Tv mode and then the other wheel setting exposure compensation (like you can configure for when Av and Tv are set on the dial) would be more useful for me than the ability to instantly switch between Av and Tv modes. I certainly wouldn't mind having ot go back to the main program line before switching into the other priority mode. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: What's P-shift? What does it do? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: 14. september 2006 02:02 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind The configurable dial setups for Program, Sv, Tv, and Av modes include options to have one dial set exposure compensation (A la the Canon rear dial) and offers either HyperProgram or Program Shift + EV Comp in Program mode. The latter is a dream of mine for a non-Canon camera to have (HyperProgram does rock, but I use EV Comp much more). It's becoming more and more clear that the K10D does just about everything I want. The only missing item is the Dust-Removal menu offers only 'On Startup' or 'Do it now' options, not a 'On Lens Change' option. But the ability to turn it off on startup and select it manually solves one major complaint with this feature on the Oly and Sony bodies, the inherently slow startup due to dust-removal. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: popphoto.com k10D
My DL is silver and black and I definitely prefer plain black. - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:50 AM Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D Black plastic would be fine. Though silver plastic is a probability. Say, I wonder how those Silver and Black *ist-Ds/DL's sold. Not well at all I'm sure. Tom C wrote: Don't forget the silver metal and leatherette body. Tom C. Heck, I'm hoping the K1000D drops all the fripperies, has an aperture simulator and no autofocus motor at all. P.J. Alling -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More K10D tech details
On 15/09/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this was what gave D200 troubles (banding and high ISO noise etc) as a consequence of securing the speed, wasn't it? Yes it was. Remember the Nucore ADC also manages all CCD clocking/timing signals, so I'm sure this solution would be better integrated and managed regardless of the number of channels. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More K10D tech details
On 15/09/06, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there is a speculation that the sensor for K10D may not be of Sony's. There are a few minute differences other than the dimensions (which are also different). People are speculating whose. I have no idea. I always thought it was a version of those used for D200. The sensor dimensions of the unit in K10D appear to match the Sony CX493 both electrically and mechanically. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
If you move the camera at all after the metering has been set with the AE-Lock button, the EV value will reflect the difference between what is now in the meter's sight and what was metered on. It's quite sensitive. I often find it is off by .2 to .7 EV in either direction because I don't have the subject centered exactly the same way. But it is definitely setting the null point. Godfrey On Sep 14, 2006, at 4:19 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: I just tried that and while the lens does stop down, it doesn't set the exposure at 0.0. It seems I still can only do it with the DOF switch...which isn't an issue really anyway. It could be I'm doing something wrong, but I followed your instructions. James - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:58 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring CF: Set Using Aperture Ring to Permitted Mode Selector: Set exposure to M Set aperture to desired value with the ring.With the meter activated, press the AE-Lock button. Lens will stop down briefly, a reading will be taken, the shutter speed will be set to match and the meter reading will be set to the 0.0 point. It's very quick and convenient. Holding the camera on target and activating the DoF preview at this point will allow you to fine tune the setting with a +/-2 EV readout. G On Sep 14, 2006, at 4:27 AM, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100D Raw question
Thanks. Rawshooter couldnt read it, said it was unsupported. I tried Adobe's DNG convertor, same problem. So I binary edited the files to change K100D - *ist DS. And it worked!! :) Rawshooter thinks they are *istDS raw files. Good enough for this simple test that I'm doing. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assuming you don't have access to the Pentax software which will convert to DNG, and likewise to the latest Adobe DNG converter to try it for yourself. I asked over at the Adobe User-to-User DNG forum where there's a short thread about Pentax cameras. You can read the messages here: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.3bbf7de8/0 I suspect it'll be a while before there's a response - you may get a faster reply here ... Shel [Original Message] From: Gonz Does Raw Shooter or the Adobe DNG convertor read K100D raw files? I dont know if RAW formats have changed from the DS, DL, etc family of cameras, and I need to look at some K100D RAW files I took from a borrowed camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
I forgot to add ... use an out of focus white wall as a test target. G On Sep 14, 2006, at 4:19 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: I just tried that and while the lens does stop down, it doesn't set the exposure at 0.0. It seems I still can only do it with the DOF switch...which isn't an issue really anyway. It could be I'm doing something wrong, but I followed your instructions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lack of AA Battery Power - they don't have a choice
On 15/09/06, Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There have been complaints about lack of AA battery power, and many felt abandoned by Pentax engineers. But in fact, I don't think they have a choice. K10D requires much higher voltage to run. The DC-in is 8.3V instead of previous 6.5V. So in order to run AA batteries, especially NiMH ones, you need at least 6xAA. This is simply not possible for the size of K10D. Even with 6xNiMH AA, it may be stretching it; as the batteries run down, you may only get about 6.6V. And with the current size of the battery grip, I am not sure if there is enough room for 6 AAs, unless they make the grip much larger with a bulge for batteries. Speaking from an engineers perspective that's just garbage. There are all sorts of efficient methods to raise, lower and regulate voltages which are available to any competent electrical engineer. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
I suspect that's because you are moving the camera in between the two events. Try it with the camera on a tripod, pointed at something with a constant level of illumination. On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 09:34:11AM +1000, J and K Messervy wrote: On my DL, pressing the AE-L button causes the lens to stop down for a very brief moment. If I then use the DOF preview to check the exposure, it has not been set to 0.0. - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 09:27:00PM +1000, J and K Messervy wrote: The istDL doesn't have a green button, so I've found that I have to use the DOF preview lever to stop down the lens to get the right exposure settings in M mode. It works but is not quick or convenient. James I don't believe that's correct. Operating the DOF preview stops down the lens and turns on the metering circuitry, thus allowing you to check your exposure, but doesn't change any settings. Pushing the AE-L button (if you are in manual mode, of course) will stop down the lens, meter, and then set the shutter speed automatically to what the camera calculates for correct exposure. Once you release the AE-L button the lens opens up again, and the shutter speed stays at the last calculated value until you change it (either manually or by pushing the AE-L button again). Just get in the habit of a quick press of the AE-L button before tripping the shutter and you'll hardly notice the difference. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Lack of AA Battery Power - they don't have a choice
Interestingly, some reviews were negative about the use of AA in previous cameras, as they were unhappy about the lack of rechargeable solution in the included camera package. So you can't keep everyone happy. When I got my *ist D I knew I could get rechargeable AA's, but chose to use AA lithiums, or those CV batteries. Later, I got some rechargeable AA's later. Incidentally, I just ordered the K100 because it uses AA batteries. I'll get a couple of SD cards, but wish I could use my CF cards that I use with my *ist D. Oh well. Jim A. -- --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence -- --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor-- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed
Gonz wrote: Thats strange to me. Are there different versions of the camera? Anybody else out there get 6 raw continuous? I get six RAWs. Or maybe five. I'll have to check the archives and see what the longest sequence I have is. I can remember a five shot sequence of a Formula SCCA spinning right between two Formula Atlantics as they come down the hill from turn 11 to 12 at Road Atlanta. No contact, but I'll bet a couple of them soiled their underwear. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K100D Raw question
On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Gonz wrote: Does Raw Shooter or the Adobe DNG convertor read K100D raw files? I dont know if RAW formats have changed from the DS, DL, etc family of cameras, and I need to look at some K100D RAW files I took from a borrowed camera. Iridient Digital's RAW Developer for Mac OS X has been updated to include the K100D. That's what I'm using to convert some test .PEFs from the K100D I shot the other day. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D - Pentax has been reading my mind
The Program Shift and EV compensation controls are how I shoot with the Sony R1 most of the time. Sony also programmed the camera to understand exposure evaluation for RAW vs JPEG as well, so the auto exposure on the R1 is amongst the most accurate I've seen for RAW shooting. I'm glad the K10D includes Program Shift. HyperProgram seems a little redundant to me, but I've not used it in a Pentax before. The KM A2 has something similar and I haven't found it to be all that useful, but I'll reserve judging it until I get to fool with it a bit. Godfrey On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Program Shift allows you to scroll through a series of different Aperture/Shutter combinations of equivalent exposure. I use it all the time on my D50, F601m and Rebel XS. The combination of Program shift (Allowing me to scroll to a desired aperture or shutter) and exposure compensation is more useful than the admittedly cool HyperProgram, as I can easily select for aperture and shutter while getting faster exposure compensation adjustment. HyperProgram is far better for selecting a desired aperture or shutter speed for multiple shots. I am wondering if the HyperProgram configuration will allow the custom functions regarding the second wheel to come into effect when dropping into Av or Tv mode, or whether the differing wheels will always be Av/Tv. Using the wheel to drop into Av or Tv mode and then the other wheel setting exposure compensation (like you can configure for when Av and Tv are set on the dial) would be more useful for me than the ability to instantly switch between Av and Tv modes. I certainly wouldn't mind having ot go back to the main program line before switching into the other priority mode. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D and DNG
I was over at the Adobe U2U DNG forum and came across this small thread: http://tinyurl.com/lgy9o http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.3bc19bc8/0 Some of the comments brought a smile to my face, It's no big deal, just points out what a few people think about the camera and Pentax in general You might enjoy the diversion ;-)) Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - new Oly takes xD and CF
On Sep 14, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Cotty wrote: given the runaway success they're having with the K100D and the upcoming K10D ... Why Godders, I've always thought of you as a man of consideration and reason. There wouldn't be an element of *hype* involved in this statement would there ;-) I'm sorry. Did I say that with my outside voice? ]'-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring
Doh, I'm an idiot...it is workingthanks guys. James - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: Re: K10D and Lenses with Aperture Ring I forgot to add ... use an out of focus white wall as a test target. G On Sep 14, 2006, at 4:19 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: I just tried that and while the lens does stop down, it doesn't set the exposure at 0.0. It seems I still can only do it with the DOF switch...which isn't an issue really anyway. It could be I'm doing something wrong, but I followed your instructions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed
With the DL the best you can get is 3 RAW files, so bring on the K10D! - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: K10D Buffer Size/Speed Gonz wrote: Thats strange to me. Are there different versions of the camera? Anybody else out there get 6 raw continuous? I get six RAWs. Or maybe five. I'll have to check the archives and see what the longest sequence I have is. I can remember a five shot sequence of a Formula SCCA spinning right between two Formula Atlantics as they come down the hill from turn 11 to 12 at Road Atlanta. No contact, but I'll bet a couple of them soiled their underwear. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
