DA 18-55
I'm considering whether or not to get a DA 18-55 as a Kit with a K10D (my dealer gave me a very reasonable price for a kit) ? What the general take on the optical quality / build quality etc I would go for the 16-50 but its too long to wait and i need someting that gives me a 28mm equiv now -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Street photography - religious objections
Like Bob W, I have had an Arab girl friend (see May 05 PUG), My girlfriend was not Arabic, she was Bangladeshi. and you could not find (or I could not find) a more charming, normal, and civilised human being. ditto Generalising about Muslims is as futile as generalising about any large, diverse, group. indeed Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 24/9/06, Vic Mortelmans, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway, this is my (little) story... I'd like to hear some reaction to that! Maybe this forum numbers some muslim photographers? That would be really interesting! Tough one. I was filming at a carnival a few months ago and loads of parents and kids were lining up to have the kids' faces painted (bright colours, animal motifs etc). We had interviewed the artists, and were filming parents and kids - including filming interviews with some parents (and in due course asking if it was okay to get some close-ups of their kids' faces - no problem). But being a crowded area there were lots of people there we didn't speak to or ask, and we carried on - but nobody objected. Except one asian woman came over to me after we had finished filming and in broken english explained that she did not want to appear on TV. I smiled, nodded and said I would tell the reporter (who would be in control of the images to be transmitted), and so I did. I later saw the piece go out and there was the asian woman, in a wide shot or two waiting to have her daughter's face painted. Certainly not in close-up, but identifiable. One does one's best to respect people, but when there's a chain of responsibility, the more people in that chain, the less chance of success. Personally I do tend to respect religious preference. If she'd asked me before filming, I would have framed the shots so that she was not in them. Bu that doesn't extend to going back and starting all over again. If she had started wielding hand grenades as a would-be suicide bomber, then I would include her in the frame in close-up (from a safe distance of course :-) HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Street photography - religious objections
No - this is absolutely not true, and a very dangerous idea. There are several generations of Muslims who have been born in Britain, to take just one example. Where are they free to leave to? This is their country, which is based on tolerance and respect for other people. Islam is now part of our culture. So what next? Shariah? you must feel very insecure about your own views and your society. Why should tolerance lead to shariah law? Britain is also home to Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Rastafarians, Zoroastrians, Sikhs - you name it. There's no suggestion that we have to take up their respective laws. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 18-55
Dear Patrick After managing with my Sigma 12-24 for the wide angle shots, I eventually bought a new 18-55mm. It's light, easy to use and takes great shots. I hesitated on the 16-45mm like you are on the new 16-50. The clinching argument was the 6 fold increase in price £300+versus £50. I dread to think of the multiple on the new lens! I f I win the Lottery, I'll buy the new lens and sell the old one on Ebay or, more likely, keep it as backup Hope this helps Peter On 9/25/06, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm considering whether or not to get a DA 18-55 as a Kit with a K10D (my dealer gave me a very reasonable price for a kit) ? What the general take on the optical quality / build quality etc I would go for the 16-50 but its too long to wait and i need someting that gives me a 28mm equiv now -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 18-55
Get it. It is cheap and for the price of it, quite good actually. I use it with DA50-200 and FA50/1.4 as my main lenses. For tis price, it is more or less unbeatable IMO. Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Le Portel (Photosight.ru)
The last few times I have accessed Photosight, it has activated the popup blocker (at home) or (at work) brought up advertising screens. This time, it triggered the anti-virus software. I won't be going back there. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralf R. Radermacher) Date: 2006/09/24 Sun PM 10:28:20 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net (Pentax Mailingliste) Subject: PESO: Le Portel First of all a disclaimer, since one can never be too cautious about such things in our days: this picture shows graffity which may include non-office-friendly language. You have been warned. *sigh* http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1664522 Your comments and suggestions are as always most welcome. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Some soft photos
Hello, May be this will be interesting to somebody. Some months ago I bought Pentax F-85/2.8 Soft lens, and I have to say that I do love this lens! As I know the opinions about this lens is quite different. I'd like to show some photos taken by it. As I can see it can be used for the different scenes, I'd like to know what other people think about this lens. This one was taken with the film body: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14247 And these with the DS: http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=14028 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=15146 May be somebody wants to show it's photos by Pentax Soft lense? Thanks, Jurij -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 24/9/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: I recall on one of the visits I made to SF with someone from the PDML there was a woman with a rather flamboyant outfit sitting at the cafe as we passed, talking with her daughter. I made a quiet exposure of the scene and was moving on. Whomever I was with made a point of catching her attention to ask if she would mind having a picture taken. She refused. Which leaves the interesting moral dilemna ... I have a perfectly good photograph of this woman and the scene which she doesn't know was taken, and when approached she specifically did not want her photo taken. Now, what should I do with the perfectly good picture I have of her? Publish and be damned! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 25/9/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Personally I do tend to respect religious preference. Can I correct this sentence. It should say: I do tend to respect personal preference. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 24, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Vic Mortelmans wrote: On the other hand, I feel uncomfertable that a couple of muslim people mingling in a crowd can prohibit me to take pictures. What if I would have been photographing my 2 year old son running around through the street and they happened to be in the background... Strictly spoken, that would have objected them as well, I guess. They're just part of a crowd. In a public area they have absolutely no right to object to you photographing anything, including them or not. BTW, as I understand it the prohibition against photography is not a universal muslim thing, but only applies to some sects. I've done photography in muslim countries without any problems, and know muslim photographers (one in Iran). Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Related question to off camera flash
What I found was the smaller flashes just didn't have enough power. Silvered umbrellas help a bit ( Photogenic Eclipse, I think they are called... ). I get around F8 at ISO 200 with two silvered umbrellas at a resonable working distance for small groups. GN 120 flashes, Vivitar 285 HVs. Recycle time and the need to change batteries every now and then are still issues, though. For location work with monolights, you might want to invest in the monolight system's big battery pack units to avoid running cables to an outlet ( if there is one ), and possibly tripping breakers if everyone's on the same aged circuit ( photog lights, video lights, DJ system, etc. ) Brian -- Brian Dunn Photographic http://www.bdphotographic.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you must feel very insecure about your own views and your society. Not about my views but very much about society. I see that the whole planet is being transformed into one giant police state. I see that our established politicians are messing up our democracy to the extent that the nazi fascists have had a ball at last weeks regional elections in East Germany. I see that our rights and civil liberties are being nibbled away at an alarming rate. The last thing we need is another group of religious zealots imposing their antediluvian rules and beliefs on us. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: you must feel very insecure about your own views and your society. Not about my views but very much about society. I see that the whole planet is being transformed into one giant police state. I see that our established politicians are messing up our democracy to the extent that the nazi fascists have had a ball at last weeks regional elections in East Germany. I see that our rights and civil liberties are being nibbled away at an alarming rate. The last thing we need is another group of religious zealots imposing their antediluvian rules and beliefs on us. I agree 100%, Ralf. The major threat to humanity today is religious fundamentalism, regardless of the religion. Here in the USA we have the so-called fundamentalist Christians seeking to take away our rights and impose their narrow-minded view of the world. In many other parts of the world we have muslim extremists seeking to do the same. The idea of just leaving people alone to live their lives as they see fit is anathema to both of these groups. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Man this thread is great. It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Keep it coming people. g Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Hi, Not mentioned it in my post, but actually I put my camera down and didn't shoot the picture with the women in it. But frankly, I don't intend to wander through the city with my camera, frame something interesting and each time have to check: oh, would there be any muslim people in my frame, because then I should not take this picture?. So I strongly disagree with the second part of your message! But I do agree that it's a matter of courtesy not to shoot people who (for whatever reason) object. Of course this implies that you point the camera at them first, because they don't write it on their backs. Groeten, Vic - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag, september 25, 2006 12:12 AM Aan: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Onderwerp: RE: Street photography - religious objections If someone doesn't want their picture taken don't take it. Their reason is unimportant. It's called common courtesy. It's unimportant if they are the main subject in a photo or part of the crowd or background, regardless of legality. In this specific case, you know that Muslims are against having the photo taken on religious grounds, so why even attempt such a thing, and why complain about it here. It's not that you're ignorant of the situation. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
In a message dated 9/24/2006 5:50:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The big problem with Islam is that Muslims believe that the Koran is the actual word of God, and therefore must be correct and must be taken literally. [snip] Like Bob W, I have had an Arab girl friend (see May 05 PUG), and you could not find (or I could not find) a more charming, normal, and civilised human being. Generalising about Muslims is as futile as generalising about any large, diverse, group. John === And yet you did generalize in that statement above. There are quite a few Christians who think the words in the Bible came directly from God to various prophets. And it is full of contradictions as well. Personally, I think if a person really objects it is probably better not to take their photograph. On the flip side, a public place is a public place. So it's really up to the individual photographer on what they decide to do. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 25/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals Cue William Robb, back in the nick of time. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not mentioned it in my post, but actually I put my camera down and didn't shoot the picture with the women in it. But frankly, I don't intend to wander through the city with my camera, frame something interesting and each time have to check: oh, would there be any muslim people in my frame, because then I should not take this picture?. So I strongly disagree with the second part of your message! But I do agree that it's a matter of courtesy not to shoot people who (for whatever reason) object. Of course this implies that you point the camera at them first, because they don't write it on their backs. My philosophy has always been to shoot the photo first and deal with any objections after. Once in Italy I was photographing an old archway in a town (might have been Bassano del Grappa) and had everything framed up just right when two nuns in their stark black and white habits came walking through the arch. They really made the picture, so I snapped a couple of shots. One of them took umbrage at this and came over to me and began berating me in Italian, wagging her finger at me. I don't know any Italian, so I don't know what she was saying, but I just gave my most exaggerated shrug and said I don't understand you in English. I guess she realized at that point that I was a tourist, and she and her companion walked on. As I had done them no harm in taking the photo, I had no problem at all in printing it and showing it to people. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:59 AM, David Savage wrote: It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a public place while swearing at the tops of their lungs and beating greased ferrets about the head? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
I'm late into this debate, so most has been said already. I agree with those who emphasize the diversity of muslims as a group, and that there may have been personal reasons for the lady in question to dislike her picture taken. At the moment I think also that many european muslims feel a bit stigmatised by the actions from extremists of their faith. If I was in their situation, I think it would amplify my dislike of having a camera pointed in my direction. Jostein On 9/24/06, Vic Mortelmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This forum has discussed legal objections to street photography many times. When I do street photograpy, it's not that often that I really take a frame on individual people, so I don't really bother about that. If people are in the picture, they're mostly unaware and part of a crowd or passing by at some distance. Moreover, I'm an amateur and don't publish photographs, so I don't see any problem in that area. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:17 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: At the moment I think also that many european muslims feel a bit stigmatised by the actions from extremists of their faith. If I was in their situation, I think it would amplify my dislike of having a camera pointed in my direction. At the moment I think also that many American Christians feel a bit stigmatised by the actions from extremists of their faith. Se la vie. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Hello Feroze, I'm a Muslim photographer, I've paid off most of my photographic gear by shooting mainly muslim weddings and other functions. There are 4 schools of though in Islam and depending on which one you belong to would either forbid all photography or have entire albums full of family pictures. Its truly funny when the girl's side is from one school and the boys side from another, then you can only shoot one half of the function. thanks for the feedback. Quite interesting. I myself have shot thousands of photo's with very very few photo's taken of myself. With me its not really a religious issue, I just hate being in a photograph. And yes if I was in a crowd, and saw someone taking a pic that I would be in I would stop him or walk away, would that make you feel that I'm doing because I'm muslim?? OK, maybe they just didn't like it. I accept the hypothesis. Groeten, Vic - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Feroze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag, september 25, 2006 12:55 AM Aan: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Onderwerp: Re: Street photography - religious objections Hi Vic, Feroze Anyway, this is my (little) story... I'd like to hear some reaction to that! Maybe this forum numbers some muslim photographers? That would be really interesting! Groeten, Vic (*) note: I put the woman's reaction as being defensive, implying that I was the one to be offensive, starting to take the picture. That's just fair for the sake of the discussion. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 25/9/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed: They really made the picture, so I snapped a couple of shots. One of them took umbrage at this and came over to me and began berating me in Italian, wagging her finger at me. I don't know any Italian, so I don't know what she was saying, That's a nasty habit. ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a public place while swearing at the tops of their lungs and beating greased ferrets about the head? Do you want to kill him? ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
I think you should ask yourself two questions: 1) If the woman had been a member of some Christian or Jewish sect, and has made known her displeasure at being photographed, would you have been equally outraged, more outraged or less outraged? First consideration: christian people and (most) Jewish (women) cannot be recognized as such. While spotting a muslim woman isn't that hard. That's of course a difference, because when a non-muslim person objects to take a picture, I wouldn't be able to link it to religion. So at first, I think I'd be a bit more puzzled and not able to form an opinion on his/her behaviour. But if I would know the background, my ennoyance (is different to outrage) would be as big, I expect. 2) Is it reasonable for you to take a photo of anyone (regardless of gender, race, creed, political or sexual orientation) who has first made it clear that they do not wish to be photographed? I respect people not wanting the be on photographs, and I didn't take the picture of the women. So answer to 2): no (but still, I'm a bit ennoyed by the further circumstances). Groeten, Vic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Hi Boris, 2. There are very diverse and peculiar customs about being photographed. I can only speak for Judaism and people of Israel. Here are few examples: a. It is forbidden to be photographed on Saturday (Shabbat) and holidays. If I were to go to the place where many observing Jews crowd on the street and photograph them, that could really provoke some nasty reactions. On any other day it would be just fine. That's also interesting! The same day, I learnt that the yearly Ramadan period for muslims had started... so mabye they're also a bit stricter on the taking-no-pictures thing than regularly? Another thing is that if you were to try to engage that woman in a friendly discussion trying to see why she opposed to be photographed, you could have learned that it might have done nothing with her Faith. Well, as I said before, I accept the hypothesis, but I would really be surprised if it was a non-religious thing. Moreover, having friendly conversations on (appearantly) sensitive issues to people who hardly speak your language is quite tough. I'm not at all in to this sort of thing when shooting pictures. But I agree it's the best approach to clear out every doubt about the situation and it may be interesting if you like it... Groeten, Vic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Noise Performance
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Staying with Pentax apparently the only way we will see a lager sensor Things are bound to come to a head. I was waiting for this thread to get some fizz in it. Well it's barley noticeable at the moment. Better hop to it. You guys are flagon a dead horse. What's your pint? Threads like these are not even wort reading. Straight up? Nice to get a handle on it. I think threads like this tap into a subconscious need of some sort. No, they are just scraping the bottom of the barrel. They should be barred. Well, that decision can only be made by the listmeister: Doug Brewer. What a cheap mark... Kostas (unlike you, of course :-)) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Re: Street photography - religious objections
You forgot guns... David Savage wrote: Man this thread is great. It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Keep it coming people. g Dave -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pre-Photokina: Pentax 645 Digital camera
http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-1 http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-1 The Pentax 645 Digital will accept interchangealbe 645AF mount lenses and will sport an 18MP sensor. It will be continuously upgraded by incorporating new image sensors. The ultimate goal is a 30MP sensor. Upgrade how? Changing digital backs like Hasselblad. Interesting, no? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
I didn't forget them. It's just that you guy's are freaks. Dave On 9/25/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/09/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot guns... ...and drugs... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 25/09/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You forgot guns... ...and drugs... -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bypass Gueese
Thanks, Bruce. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really like this shot. I am trying to determine if it feels oversharpened or not. Could just be me in this instance. In any event, this is quite excellent. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, September 23, 2006, 3:44:21 PM, you wrote: JD Here in the Pacific flyway, it won't be long 'til we'll be seeing JD flights like this during the day and listening to them at night. JD (wonder how many pounds of poop are in the air at any one time?):-/ JD Comments welcome. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=187 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/25 Mon AM 10:15:47 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:59 AM, David Savage wrote: It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a public place while swearing at the tops of their lungs and beating greased ferrets about the head? For the skill quotient alone, I suggest photography is mandatory in that situation. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
With respect, saying that Muslims believe that the Koran is the actual word of God is not a generalisation. It is a central tenet of the faith. John On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:06:08 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/24/2006 5:50:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The big problem with Islam is that Muslims believe that the Koran is the actual word of God, and therefore must be correct and must be taken literally. [snip] Like Bob W, I have had an Arab girl friend (see May 05 PUG), and you could not find (or I could not find) a more charming, normal, and civilised human being. Generalising about Muslims is as futile as generalising about any large, diverse, group. John === And yet you did generalize in that statement above. There are quite a few Christians who think the words in the Bible came directly from God to various prophets. And it is full of contradictions as well. Personally, I think if a person really objects it is probably better not to take their photograph. On the flip side, a public place is a public place. So it's really up to the individual photographer on what they decide to do. Marnie aka Doe -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 18-55
If I may jump in? FWIW, at the request of a local photo shop, I did a lens test (carefully, but not clinically) comparing the 18-55 to a Promaster (Tamron, per the shop owner) of a similar range. The Promaster is, of course, a very inexpensive lens, but the Pentax image superiority was striking. The shop owner reviewed the images with the off-hand remark that Canon, which he features, might not fare so well either. Jack --- Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Patrick After managing with my Sigma 12-24 for the wide angle shots, I eventually bought a new 18-55mm. It's light, easy to use and takes great shots. I hesitated on the 16-45mm like you are on the new 16-50. The clinching argument was the 6 fold increase in price £300+versus £50. I dread to think of the multiple on the new lens! I f I win the Lottery, I'll buy the new lens and sell the old one on Ebay or, more likely, keep it as backup Hope this helps Peter On 9/25/06, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm considering whether or not to get a DA 18-55 as a Kit with a K10D (my dealer gave me a very reasonable price for a kit) ? What the general take on the optical quality / build quality etc I would go for the 16-50 but its too long to wait and i need someting that gives me a 28mm equiv now -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 9/25/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the moment I think also that many American Christians feel a bit stigmatised by the actions from extremists of their faith. Se la vie. We live in interesting times. :-( Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 18-55
Hi guys thanks for the feedback it looks like this is a pukka little optic built in true pentax tradition. My dealer is offering it as kit with the K10D K100D i'm tempted to take up the offer. Rgds On 9/25/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I may jump in? FWIW, at the request of a local photo shop, I did a lens test (carefully, but not clinically) comparing the 18-55 to a Promaster (Tamron, per the shop owner) of a similar range. The Promaster is, of course, a very inexpensive lens, but the Pentax image superiority was striking. The shop owner reviewed the images with the off-hand remark that Canon, which he features, might not fare so well either. Jack --- Peter Fairweather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Patrick After managing with my Sigma 12-24 for the wide angle shots, I eventually bought a new 18-55mm. It's light, easy to use and takes great shots. I hesitated on the 16-45mm like you are on the new 16-50. The clinching argument was the 6 fold increase in price £300+versus £50. I dread to think of the multiple on the new lens! I f I win the Lottery, I'll buy the new lens and sell the old one on Ebay or, more likely, keep it as backup Hope this helps Peter On 9/25/06, Patrick Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm considering whether or not to get a DA 18-55 as a Kit with a K10D (my dealer gave me a very reasonable price for a kit) ? What the general take on the optical quality / build quality etc I would go for the 16-50 but its too long to wait and i need someting that gives me a 28mm equiv now -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Regards Patrick Genovese -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 18-55
It's light, it's small, and it's remarkably good for the money. I didn't like the speed ... f/5.6 maximum aperture at 55mm is just that little bit too slow for my needs ... but it's a pretty good performer for the price point. The FA20-35/4 AL does a better job for me, its almost a prime replacement in its focal length range, although it's quite a bit more expensive. Godfrey On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Patrick Genovese wrote: I'm considering whether or not to get a DA 18-55 as a Kit with a K10D (my dealer gave me a very reasonable price for a kit) ? What the general take on the optical quality / build quality etc I would go for the 16-50 but its too long to wait and i need someting that gives me a 28mm equiv now -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:05 AM, mike wilson wrote: It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a public place while swearing at the tops of their lungs and beating greased ferrets about the head? For the skill quotient alone, I suggest photography is mandatory in that situation. Especially if the couple are wearing guns and have heroin tracks. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:25 AM, Cotty wrote: They really made the picture, so I snapped a couple of shots. One of them took umbrage at this and came over to me and began berating me in Italian, wagging her finger at me. I don't know any Italian, so I don't know what she was saying, That's a nasty habit. The proper American Response is to stare back at them and yell back in English, but louder: What Are You Trying To Say? I used this successfully in business meetings with the French. ];-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/09/25 Mon PM 02:06:33 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:05 AM, mike wilson wrote: It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a public place while swearing at the tops of their lungs and beating greased ferrets about the head? For the skill quotient alone, I suggest photography is mandatory in that situation. Especially if the couple are wearing guns and have heroin tracks. I was thinking more of the skill of the participants. I've never been able to beat a ferret about the head, greased or not. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The proper American Response is to stare back at them and yell back in English, but louder: What Are You Trying To Say? I've found that Hungarian is much more universal (as in universally incrompehensible) for this purpose. Works with beggars, bullies, policemen, parking wardens and nutters of all kinds. I don't speak a word of the language myself, but the casual Ötvenegy nullahat negyven!* will make it immediately clear to your opponent that any further attempt at communicating with you will just be a waste of time. :-) Saved me from various two-legged nuiscances on a number of occasions. Ralf *) (pronounced ut-van-egg new-low-hot nag-van), fifty-one o-six forty, the P.O. Box number of the Hungarian programme formerly broadcast by radio Deutsche Welle where I used to work as an audio engineer. -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - off camera flash
Thanks for all the replies, folks. Much appreciated. I've actually ruled out the SB-26, simply because I don't want or need the slave. When I get to the point that I need wireless flash, I'll probably just get a 360 or 540. I'm basically down to the 383 or the SB-24. Thanks Godfrey and Adam! It's pretty obvious that actually studio strobes would be far better than what I'm hobbling together, but they're not quite as portable. I want to be able use off camera flash anywhere. This means small flash guns with batteries. As it stands now the entire kit, including stands, should fit into a small backpack and still leave room for my lunch. Thanks again! On 9/22/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in need of a couple of flash guns for off camera use. Each unit must allow me to set the output, down to 1/16th would be fine, and both must have a PC connection. They do not need to be Pentax dedicated. I'll be setting them up on light stands with umbrellas, and synching them with PC to AC cables and standard light gauge extension cords. In other words, a poor man's portable light kit. Nikon SB-24 or SB-26 flashes are currently at the top of my list. Might anyone have recommendations on other flashes? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 18-55
Hi! It's light, it's small, and it's remarkably good for the money. I didn't like the speed ... f/5.6 maximum aperture at 55mm is just that little bit too slow for my needs ... but it's a pretty good performer for the price point. The FA20-35/4 AL does a better job for me, its almost a prime replacement in its focal length range, although it's quite a bit more expensive. I've found that on digital the FAJ 18-35 is not bad at all, if not very good. Also, at least to my taste the difference between 18 mm and 20 mm on wide is meaningful. So, at least I would suggest to try the FAJ 18-35 option as well. I've 2/3 through the test film which I shot with FAJ 18-35 past weekend... I'll be sure to report my findings when I finish the roll and have it processed. Thanks. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bypass Gueese
Jack Davis wrote: (wonder how many pounds of poop are in the air at any one time?):-/ http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=187 That's a shitload of snow geese. why gueese in the subject line? -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Bypass Gueese
Because Spell Check does not allow for Subject line stupidity! :-) Jack --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: (wonder how many pounds of poop are in the air at any one time?):-/ http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=187 That's a shitload of snow geese. why gueese in the subject line? -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 9/25/06, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found that Hungarian is much more universal (as in universally incrompehensible) for this purpose. Works with beggars, bullies, [...] http://youtube.com/watch?v=09XBFXOaskw My hovercraft is full of eels... :) j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PentaxUSA Strikes Again!
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Joseph Tainter wrote: Wow! The depth of their knowledge is astounding. Similar to my queries re the AF540FGZ. I am wondering if these people actually exist or if a machine picks up random phrases from existing marketing material that matches parts of your question. Obviously the 70 is not available yet, so there is no related boilerplate. It's not just Pentax. I was on a 512Kbps ADSL connection and applied for an upgrade to 8Mbps. While the order was still being processed (so 512) I asked my ISP why on certain instances/times of the day I was struggling to get 200kbps. They replied that, even on 8Mbps, I should expect around 5.5Mbps :-) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pre-Photokina: New DSLR from FujiFilm
Pre-Photokina: New pro DSLR from Fujifilm http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-4 Adorama (press release) - New York,USA Fuji announced today that it is developing its next-generation professional DSLR, the FinePix S5 Pro. Based on the Nikon D200 body *... http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-4 * Pre-Photokina: Fuji compact sees faces http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-3 Adorama (press release) - New York,USA Fujifilm today announced the 6MP FinePix F31fd, the company's first pocket-sized digital camera to feature Face Detection Technology. *... http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-3 * -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PentaxUSA Strikes Again!
I asked: Will the DA 70 be able to accept filters in the lens hood,like the DA 21 and DA 40? If so, what will the filter diameter be? And Pentax USA responded: Thank you for contacting Pentax. The DA series lenses are designed for the Pentax Digital SLR camera bodies, and the digital SLR has digital filters built in to the camera, as well as the editing software, but if you were to use a lens filter you would need to use the filter that fits the filter diameter for that lens. In this case The DA 21,and DA 40 would use the 49mm filters. Wow! The depth of their knowledge is astounding. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Radiance
Tom C wrote: Up late last night. There was a minor geomagnetic storm in progress, producing auroras at lower latitudes than is typical. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4987942 Tom C. Wow. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Coronmant (b
Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: It sounds like it's time to post Coronmant Times again... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cormorant-times.jpg GODDAM! That's a beautiful shot! :-D -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Coronmant (b
Cotty wrote: On 24/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/cormorant-times.jpg LOL Haven't seen that for a while, thanks for posting. All credit to Christian for a cracking shot. Thanks, Cot! I've got a 20x30 print of that right here behind me in my office at the largest online company in america (now completely free! woo-freaking-hoo!) Credit goes to you for starting a trend that at one point got pretty sick. ;-P -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - candle experiment
Brutally, honestly, all I can say is... I like it. Nice color, composition; the differences between the two flames is intriguing too. Rick --- Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had this candle burning and thought I'd take a picture. It turned out better than I was expecting, what do you think? Any suggestions or tips on taking these types of pics is welcome of course. http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/pic12.html Brutal and honest please! Thanks. Russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Le Portel
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: First of all a disclaimer, since one can never be too cautious about such things in our days: this picture shows graffity which may include non-office-friendly language. You have been warned. *sigh* http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1664522 Your comments and suggestions are as always most welcome. Ralf It's nice, but I like the night shots better :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pop Photo Interview mp3
If I heard it correctly: No weather sealed lenses in the near future. He also claims it's easy to protect normal lenses for rain etc when mounted on the k10d. Now I'm wondering how to do that??? He also claims Pentax has a PC sync adapter in its portfolio. Which adapter? My Pentax flash adapters are 5P or 4P not standard PC. On 9/23/06, Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some interesting details. http://podcasting.popphoto.com/2006/PP0906_AskTheSource_Pentax.mp3 http://www.popphoto.com/popularphotographypodcasts/3047/exclusive-interview- with-pentaxs-imaging-guru-about-the-k10d.html Powell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - off camera flash
Scott, If you aren't already reading it, you should check out strobist.blogspot.com which has all sorts of info on doing off-camera flash on the cheap. -Adam Scott Loveless wrote: Thanks for all the replies, folks. Much appreciated. I've actually ruled out the SB-26, simply because I don't want or need the slave. When I get to the point that I need wireless flash, I'll probably just get a 360 or 540. I'm basically down to the 383 or the SB-24. Thanks Godfrey and Adam! It's pretty obvious that actually studio strobes would be far better than what I'm hobbling together, but they're not quite as portable. I want to be able use off camera flash anywhere. This means small flash guns with batteries. As it stands now the entire kit, including stands, should fit into a small backpack and still leave room for my lunch. Thanks again! On 9/22/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in need of a couple of flash guns for off camera use. Each unit must allow me to set the output, down to 1/16th would be fine, and both must have a PC connection. They do not need to be Pentax dedicated. I'll be setting them up on light stands with umbrellas, and synching them with PC to AC cables and standard light gauge extension cords. In other words, a poor man's portable light kit. Nikon SB-24 or SB-26 flashes are currently at the top of my list. Might anyone have recommendations on other flashes? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
You know, I really hate it when I read comments like this. People have every right to object to being photographed, even though it may be true that in certain circumstances the photographer may legally photograph them. If a person doesn't want to be photographed, then I think the photographer should accept to their wishes. If there's a news story or something of importance going on, that may be a different case. I say that we should allow people some privacy, especially in a world where privacy is getting harder and harder to come by. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Shell On the other hand, I feel uncomfertable that a couple of muslim people mingling in a crowd can prohibit me to take pictures. What if I would have been photographing my 2 year old son running around through the street and they happened to be in the background... Strictly spoken, that would have objected them as well, I guess. They're just part of a crowd. In a public area they have absolutely no right to object to you photographing anything, including them or not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Fuck you Dave ... happier? LOL Now where's my sheep? Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage Man this thread is great. It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Keep it coming people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Shel, You are right that they have every right to object (Part of the entire 'Freedom of Speech' thing) although there is no concordant requirement for the Photographer to respect that objection beyond courtesy. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: You know, I really hate it when I read comments like this. People have every right to object to being photographed, even though it may be true that in certain circumstances the photographer may legally photograph them. If a person doesn't want to be photographed, then I think the photographer should accept to their wishes. If there's a news story or something of importance going on, that may be a different case. I say that we should allow people some privacy, especially in a world where privacy is getting harder and harder to come by. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Shell On the other hand, I feel uncomfertable that a couple of muslim people mingling in a crowd can prohibit me to take pictures. What if I would have been photographing my 2 year old son running around through the street and they happened to be in the background... Strictly spoken, that would have objected them as well, I guess. They're just part of a crowd. In a public area they have absolutely no right to object to you photographing anything, including them or not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Here in the USA we have the so-called fundamentalist Christians seeking to take away our rights Just what rights are the fundamentalist Christians seeking to take away from you ? Kenneth Waller --- Original Message - From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:46 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: you must feel very insecure about your own views and your society. Not about my views but very much about society. I see that the whole planet is being transformed into one giant police state. I see that our established politicians are messing up our democracy to the extent that the nazi fascists have had a ball at last weeks regional elections in East Germany. I see that our rights and civil liberties are being nibbled away at an alarming rate. The last thing we need is another group of religious zealots imposing their antediluvian rules and beliefs on us. I agree 100%, Ralf. The major threat to humanity today is religious fundamentalism, regardless of the religion. Here in the USA we have the so-called fundamentalist Christians seeking to take away our rights and impose their narrow-minded view of the world. In many other parts of the world we have muslim extremists seeking to do the same. The idea of just leaving people alone to live their lives as they see fit is anathema to both of these groups. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm LE filters (was PentaxUSA Strikes Again!)
The 70mm limited uses 49mm filters. Please see this fact sheet http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/ja/lens/ index35_long.html#10 Bertil -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - candle experiment
I like it too. I'd probably go even more radical and crop it tighter and square... ;-) Godfrey On Sep 24, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: Had this candle burning and thought I'd take a picture. It turned out better than I was expecting, what do you think? Any suggestions or tips on taking these types of pics is welcome of course. http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/pic12.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 6:05 AM, mike wilson wrote: It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Yes, is it OK to photograph people who are having sex nude in a public place while swearing at the tops of their lungs and beating greased ferrets about the head? For the skill quotient alone, I suggest photography is mandatory in that situation. Especially if the couple are wearing guns and have heroin tracks. I was going to add that it depends of whether the couple have tattoos, but then I thought, Duh! Of *course* they have tattoos! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pre-Photokina: New DSLR from FujiFilm
On Sep 25, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Roman wrote: http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl? op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-4 Fuji announced today that it is developing its next-generation professional DSLR, the FinePix S5 Pro. Based on the Nikon D200 body *... Was reading about this one on DPReview. It looks quite good. Fuji's sensors are excellent. Nikon's lenses are excellent. http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl? op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-3 Fujifilm today announced the 6MP FinePix F31fd, the company's first pocket-sized digital camera to feature Face Detection Technology. *... Why I would need a camera to detect faces remains a question mark for me. On the other hand, I'm very happy with the Fuji F30 as a pocketable digicam with decent sensitivity and image quality. I hate the xD storage card, however. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Radiance
Thanks Christian and Ken... Tom C. From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Radiance Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:30:37 -0400 Tom C wrote: Up late last night. There was a minor geomagnetic storm in progress, producing auroras at lower latitudes than is typical. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4987942 Tom C. Wow. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: SD Cards: what to buy?
Joe, I'm always looking for a balance between price, value, and quality. Right now, I think the 1GB and 2GB Transcend cards @ newegg fill the bill perfectly. Next month it may be different. New egg, BTW, has a great rating at http://www.resellerratings.com/seller2121.html - better even than BH. Shel [Original Message] From: Joseph Tainter Shel wrote: Godfrey and I here on this list have found them to be reliable. Neither of us jump into things and make our purchases lightly That's right, Shel. You don't. I hadn't considered that when I asked. FWIW, I am very cautious and conservative wrt to _any_purchase I make. I read reviews, check what other people are using, and move slowly. At this point I would buy nothing but Transcend based on price/quality/performance. Yes, you ask many questions here about lenses. Okay, I am reassured. I'll look into Transcend cards. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Mini PDML LONDON
Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: TBA Location: TBA Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Names here please 1. Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Face Detection Technology by Fuji
Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have this as well. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Why I would need a camera to detect faces remains a question mark for me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Something Old
A bit of a departure for me. This was taken in San Francisco at a memorial for a battleship. There was a piece of the ship hull as part of the memorial and this item was bolted to it. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 45mm ISO 200, 1/90 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3321bw.htm Comments Welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D sample images
Had the moment last night to put up a couple of samples for you. The only processing done to these two image files' full-rez rendering was RAW conversion with Camera Raw v3.5 to the parameters shown. The .DNG files are also provided for you to fool with if you desire. http://homepage.mac.com/godders/DS-ISO1600/ Godfrey On Sep 22, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Patrick Genovese wrote: Hi Godfrey, I would really apreceate it if you can you put up some 100% crops from some iso 1600 shots on the DS ideally without having applied NR so as to see the natual noise. On 9/22/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 22, 2006, at 9:42 AM, Patrick Genovese wrote: I am very very very tempted to place an order for a K10D. The only thing holding me back ist that up to now we have not seen a single sample image. Does any one have any updated info in this respect. My better half is also a photographer so finances permitting we may even be in the market for 2. But boy would i like to see some samples. Committing to approx 2k's worth of equipment without a good feel for what the camera's capable of seems like a GIANT leap of faith. My biggest concern is theatre photography -- It will be used extensively for theatre shots and i'm a bit concerned with high iso noise and the fact that the maximum iso is 1600 as opposed to 3200 I know the SR will help me out but OTOH performers don't just stand still so the higher shutter speed may still be required to stop motion blur. I have no concerns with K10D image quality. Pentax has done an admirable job with even their lowest-end bodies on noise and imaging quality so I trust they will not release a camera which does not come up to snuff. I don't need to see samples taken by DPReview or other sources with even more dubious testing credentials. Basically, if the camera comes in and turns out to be a total disaster, I'll return it and keep using the DS bodies, rethink future equipment plans. I honestly think there's no chance of that happening. I don't know about your take on theatre photography ... what I'm normally dealing with when it comes to theatre is middling bright total illumination and lots of contrast. ISO 200-800 is MORE than enough sensitivity with an f/2.8-f/4 lens wide open, the real challenge for me has always been how to keep from over-exposing the actors while still nabbing enough exposure for shadow areas. ISO 1600, clean and easy to work with on the *ist DS, has provided additional flexibility but I've only rarely used it for this kind of work, produces excellent quality. ISO 3200 is only just usable for me on the DS, and mostly if I'm intending to render to monochrome. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Regards Patrick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On 25/9/06, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: I've found that Hungarian is much more universal (as in universally incrompehensible) for this purpose. Works with beggars, bullies, policemen, parking wardens and nutters of all kinds. This is true: http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/TheHungarianPhrasebookSketch My nipples explode with delight. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
I´m not muslim (or much of anything religious at all) but my brother has family in the largest muslim state in the world, Indonesia. I´ve been there and taken picturesin the streets, and it was no problem. Thus I think any objections may be seen as more cultural than religious dependent, depending on how they practice their religion. I did try to take pictures in the late 80´s just north of Caucasus and there you could find out what religion they had in the area by trying to take a picture. If they through things at you, they were muslims, of the posed, they were some kind of christians. I think you just have to listen to the locals. Ask them. If they accept it you can take pictures. DagT PS: Did you known that the old testament has the same rule against images of people? Den 24. sep. 2006 kl. 23.19 skrev Vic Mortelmans: Hi, This forum has discussed legal objections to street photography many times. When I do street photograpy, it's not that often that I really take a frame on individual people, so I don't really bother about that. If people are in the picture, they're mostly unaware and part of a crowd or passing by at some distance. Moreover, I'm an amateur and don't publish photographs, so I don't see any problem in that area. Today I was at a public street community fair (kind of garage sail) taking some pictures. Again: not framing individual people, but just catching the environment. Since we live in a multi-cultural city, I happened to frame a sale stand where a family of muslim people was looking around. One of the women directly signaled me that she opposed to have a picture taken. I know that this is forbidden by the islam religon. I have a dual feeling about this. On the one hand, I can fully understand people to oppose to being photographed, be it for religious reasons, privicy reason or economical reaons (if the pictures are commercialized), or whatever. That's the main reason why I'm not in to street photography with direct contact to the subject; I know the risk that the reaction is negative and having arguments or even a row would make me loose the pleasure of taking pictures. On the other hand, I feel uncomfertable that a couple of muslim people mingling in a crowd can prohibit me to take pictures. What if I would have been photographing my 2 year old son running around through the street and they happened to be in the background... Strictly spoken, that would have objected them as well, I guess. They're just part of a crowd. And I also have a third thought about this (but I hope I don't start a polemic discussion on this). I'm myself a practicing roman catholic, so I (think I) know what religion is about. Nevertheless, I can't imagine to interact with other people in my city community in this defensive (*) manner, based on my religious practice. But maybe I'm a bad catholic... Anyway, this is my (little) story... I'd like to hear some reaction to that! Maybe this forum numbers some muslim photographers? That would be really interesting! Groeten, Vic (*) note: I put the woman's reaction as being defensive, implying that I was the one to be offensive, starting to take the picture. That's just fair for the sake of the discussion. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: SMC-FA 2.0 24mm AL IF
Both widely criticized and widely defended, it seems. My reservations about this lens is that in the DSLR community there have been very polarized testimonials about its performance. Some love it and find little issue with wide open sharpness or CA. Others find that they need to stop it down quite a ways for sharpness and spend a lot of time correcting the CA issues. I suspect there's a lot of individual lens variation, as well as individual variation in what the users expect from a premium priced lens like this. Godfrey On Sep 24, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Peter Smekal wrote: Beautiful Jens! AFAIK the len was widely criticized for its CA problems on digital SLR's. Peter, Uppsala This lens is amazingly sharp. Widengles are good for repartage because of the huge DOF. This shot was done at F. 1:4.5: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Rhodos-2006/Images/Portraits-3555-web.jpg. A minimum of edoitong was done, practically none. Skat with a Pentax *ist DL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pre-Photokina: New DSLR from FujiFilm
On 25/9/06, Roman, discombobulated, unleashed: Pre-Photokina: New pro DSLR from Fujifilm http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl? op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-4 Adorama (press release) - New York,USA Fuji announced today that it is developing its next-generation professional DSLR, the FinePix S5 Pro. Based on the Nikon D200 body *... And the link to Pentax is? Hey - I'm as guilty as anyone of going off topic, but at least I stick an 'OT' in the subject line ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Buy with confidence
I know we're not supposed to post live auctions, but I feel nobody on the list will be going for this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-K-Mount-SMC-M-50MM-f1-2-superb-condition_W0QQitemZ200031144040QQihZ010QQcategoryZ4688QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I think this is a case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. Even if it were the real McCoy, it's priced about GBP100 too high. Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man this thread is great. It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Keep it coming people. Wait, let me get some more popcorn. g Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Mini PDML LONDON
I'm in (not in the morning, though. I observe a strict religious practice every Sunday morning of being beaten to a sweaty stain in a squash court, and left praying for mercy). -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 25 September 2006 18:21 To: pentax list Subject: Mini PDML LONDON Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: TBA Location: TBA Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Names here please 1. Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 18-55
The thing is, the 18-55 does have the clutch to allow focus retouch :) Of course FAJ does cover 3(mm, the DA doesn't. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Buy with confidence
Ouch. Someone is getting a nasty surprise. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we're not supposed to post live auctions, but I feel nobody on the list will be going for this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pentax-K-Mount-SMC-M-50MM-f1-2-superb-condition_W0QQitemZ200031144040QQihZ010QQcategoryZ4688QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I think this is a case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. Even if it were the real McCoy, it's priced about GBP100 too high. Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Buy with confidence
A common error, mis-reading 1:2 as meaning f/1.2 whereas it's actually f/2.0. The auction text is false and misleading in that regard. Fortunately, the auction has ended, the seller having apparently discovered the error: The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing. Doug On 09/25/06 10:50, Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is a case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. Even if it were the real McCoy, it's priced about GBP100 too high. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Street photography - religious objections
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: 25 September 2006 11:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Street photography - religious objections Man this thread is great. It's got The Big 2, religion politics. All it needs now is some foul language, nudity, sex, gratuitous violence, greased animals and I could die a happy man. Keep it coming people. g Shall I switch on my webcam for you? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Something Old
Hmmm it is a bit of a departure, but sort of in keeping with the irrigation valves you posted a while back. There's something very simple and straightforward about this pic, which I like, but the photo comes across as a bit to flat to really do much for me. A little bump in contrast with either levels or curves seems to have done the trick - each technique gave slightly different results, both of which made the pic pop a little more. A little more sharpening seemed to help a little as well. It might be interesting to see how it would look with a little darker background, and have the main subject jump out a little more. In the very upper rightmost corner there's a small light area. Zapping that might be a good move. Keep experimenting and photographing things that are departures from your usual work. You've got a good enough eye that you can take what you've learned from nature shots and move into other subjects. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton A bit of a departure for me. This was taken in San Francisco at a memorial for a battleship. There was a piece of the ship hull as part of the memorial and this item was bolted to it. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 45mm ISO 200, 1/90 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3321bw.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mini PDML LONDON
Damn, I'm going to be in the IOM. Shame. John On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:20:38 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: TBA Location: TBA Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Names here please 1. Cotty -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Street photography - religious objections
On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Just what rights are the fundamentalist Christians seeking to take away from you ? My right to be different from them. My right to photograph nudes without being stigmatized as a pornographer. My very right to exist. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Something Old
A rather radical departure for you, Bruce--inanimate -and- BW. Unfortunately it doesn't do anything for me. There's not enough detail to hold my interest beyond wondering what the hell is that thing, anyway? I had missed the previous photo on your index page, though, which is lovely. Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit of a departure for me. This was taken in San Francisco at a memorial for a battleship. There was a piece of the ship hull as part of the memorial and this item was bolted to it. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 45mm ISO 200, 1/90 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3321bw.htm Comments Welcome. -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have this as well. On the Fuji it allows you to quick-zoom in on the face to check for focus, facial expression, etc., on the camera's LCD monitor. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pre-Photokina: Pentax 645 Digital camera
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:30:08PM +0300, Roman wrote: http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-1 http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=NewsDesk_Internalarticle_num=092506-1 The Pentax 645 Digital will accept interchangealbe 645AF mount lenses and will sport an 18MP sensor. It will be continuously upgraded by incorporating new image sensors. The ultimate goal is a 30MP sensor. Old news - this was first announced (and discussed) several days ago. You might check the archives before posting these announcements. Upgrade how? Changing digital backs like Hasselblad. Interesting, no? And your source for this information is? It's not on the Adorama page, nor was it in the pre-Photokina press release from Pentax. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
So, what's the advantage of that compared to zooming with the lens? What's different? And so what? By the time you make the shot the facial expression is different, as might be the focus. What is etc? Is there more than just expression and focus that you'd want to check?Can you, or anyone, explain more? Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Shell Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have this as well. On the Fuji it allows you to quick-zoom in on the face to check for focus, facial expression, etc., on the camera's LCD monitor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mini PDML LONDON
I'll be there... John, I'll be on the IOM from the 27th to about the 5-7 Oct. If you're available, let's get together there. :-) Godfrey On Sep 25, 2006, at 11:20 AM, John Forbes wrote: Damn, I'm going to be in the IOM. Shame. John On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:20:38 +0100, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: TBA Location: TBA Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Names here please 1. Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it somewhere, it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the camera to get a bullet point no one else has, rather than design in something actually useful. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have this as well. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Why I would need a camera to detect faces remains a question mark for me. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
On Sep 25, 2006, at 3:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It's not needed. But they have the software to implement it somewhere, it's probably a fast efficient algorithm, so they added it to the camera to get a bullet point no one else has, rather than design in something actually useful. I think it could be very useful when shooting events and needing to verify that faces are in focus quickly. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mini PDML LONDON
Just a heads up - looks like a mini PDML get together in London (UK) on Sunday October 15th. Time: TBA Location: TBA Occasion: Godfrey's UK Tour Names here please 1. Cotty 2. Bob W -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
Perhaps optimize exposure for the skin, and AF on the eyes? So you can concentrate on the expression. Just a guess. On Monday 25 September 2006 21:10, Shel Belinkoff wrote: So, what's the advantage of that compared to zooming with the lens? What's different? And so what? By the time you make the shot the facial expression is different, as might be the focus. What is etc? Is there more than just expression and focus that you'd want to check?Can you, or anyone, explain more? Shel [Original Message] From: Bob Shell Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have this as well. On the Fuji it allows you to quick-zoom in on the face to check for focus, facial expression, etc., on the camera's LCD monitor. -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 70mm LE filters (was PentaxUSA Strikes Again!)
The 70mm limited uses 49mm filters. Bertil - Thank you, Bertil. I know that the DA 70 will use 49 mm filters. That is on the filter ring. My question was whether it can also use another size in the lens hood, as the 21 and 40 do. From what I have seen of the lens hood, I believe the 70 will use only the 49 mm filters. It will not take another filter in the hood. That was wanted PentaxUSA to inform me about. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Enablement, again :)
My K100D arrived today :) Will play with it some more when there's more light - it's night here now :( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|NK Linux elanor 2.6.13-15.12-default #1 Thu Aug 24 11:23:58 UTC 2006 x86_64 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Face Detection Technology by Fuji
Shel for me its just the dumbing down of photography that been going on for a while. Don't know if its good or bad. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Face Detection Technology by Fuji Ditto. Not knowing how it works adds to the mystery of why it's needed. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter? I think some other cameras have this as well. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Why I would need a camera to detect faces remains a question mark for me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
