Re: OT: AFL Grand Final

[David Savage]

At 3 quarter time the score reads:

Goals  Behinds   Total
Swan811  59
Eagles 10   10  70

(FYI 1 goal = 6 points, 1 behind = 1 point)

Sydney were very impressive in that quarter. They looked like a
completly different team to how they played in the first half.

Exciting isn't it? ;-)

Cheers,

Dave

On 9/30/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At half time it's the Eagles by 25 points.
>
> Still anyone's game, but the Swans look flat.
>
> Dave
>
> On 9/30/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I know many of you have been hanging out for this game so I'll keep
> > you up to date. :-)
> >
> > At quarter time the West Coast Eagles are ahead of the Sydney Swans by
> > 16 points.
> >
> > Despite the scoreline it's very even contest.
> >
> > Next score update at halftime...
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

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Re: OT: AFL Grand Final

[David Savage]

Yes, AFL (Australian Football League) is Aussie rules football.

It's hard to describe as it's a very different game. The closest type
of football that it resembles is Irish Gaelic football, but with an
oval ball and tackling.

I gotta' go, the third quarter just started.

Cheers,

Dave

On 9/30/06, Jim Apilado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is AFL Australian football?  Is it like rugby, but with some Australian
> refinements?
>
> Jim A. (An NFL Seahawks fan)

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Re: OT: AFL Grand Final

[David Savage]

Cheer up Shel.

There's still 2 quarters to go.

Dave ;-)

On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Man, am I depressed about that ...
>
> Shel
> > [Original Message]
> > From: David Savage
>
> > At half time it's the Eagles by 25 points.
> >
> > Still anyone's game, but the Swans look flat.

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Re: OT: AFL Grand Final

[Shel Belinkoff]

Man, am I depressed about that ... 

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: David Savage 

> At half time it's the Eagles by 25 points.
>
> Still anyone's game, but the Swans look flat.



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Re: OT: AFL Grand Final

[David Savage]

At half time it's the Eagles by 25 points.

Still anyone's game, but the Swans look flat.

Dave

On 9/30/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know many of you have been hanging out for this game so I'll keep
> you up to date. :-)
>
> At quarter time the West Coast Eagles are ahead of the Sydney Swans by
> 16 points.
>
> Despite the scoreline it's very even contest.
>
> Next score update at halftime...
>
> Dave
>

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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

David -

I have large type all over the place - differently set
overall , in Netscape and in
Firefox... in Word, in Photoshop all those are set just
right but nothing
I tried ever enlarged the type in the little box with the
http: stuff in it that
is on the tool bar, no matter which browser I'm using, it
won't enlarge. 
and, of course, if I click on that area all it does is take
me to the page
that the URL refers to :)

I'll try your suggestion when I get XP.

ann







David Savage wrote:
> 
> Give this a try:
> 
> - Right Click on your desktop and select "Properties",
> - Click on the "Appearance" tab,
> - Click on the "Advanced" tab,
> - Under "Item" select "Message Box" from the drop down list,
> - Under font size change it to one your more comfortable with, click
> "OK" then "Apply".
> 
> This will make your URL bar text, as well as the browser tab labels &
> favorite text in Firefox larger.
> 
> Now I'm using Windows XP x64 so I don't know if this is valid for Win98.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 9/30/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in
> > the URL location box so I
> > can actually see them.
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Re: Card recovery question again

[John Celio]

>I have some Mac CF card recovery software form Lexar. I can e-mail it
> to you if you wish.

I was going to offer the same software Paul mentioned.  I used to use it at 
work for doing image recovieries for customers before we got some more 
advanced software (which works with hard drives and other media besides 
flash memory).  It's good stuff, and it certainly wouldn't hurt to try it.

Just be glad none of us Pentax users have to use Smart Media or XD memory 
cards.  In my experience with those formats, if you've got a problem with a 
bad card or inacessible files, you may as well chuck the card and buy a new 
one.  I don't understand why, but when SM and XD cards fail, they fail 
completely and utterly.  At least files on CF and SD cards can usually be 
recovered, even if the card isn't usable afterwards.

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Re: OT: AFL Grand Final

[Jim Apilado]

Is AFL Australian football?  Is it like rugby, but with some Australian
refinements?

Jim A. (An NFL Seahawks fan)

> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:11:12 +0800
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: OT: AFL Grand Final
> 
> I know many of you have been hanging out for this game so I'll keep
> you up to date. :-)
> 
> At quarter time the West Coast Eagles are ahead of the Sydney Swans by
> 16 points.
> 
> Despite the scoreline it's very even contest.
> 
> Next score update at halftime...
> 
> Dave
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Re: I got - the power :-)

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

> A list member asked me kindly to give his K 500/4,5 a good home.
> As the gentleman I am, I did accept. 

I have a feeling I know that gentleman.

> It arrived today in very good condition. It's a dinosaur, but it's also a
> real beauty. I took it for a little spin I arrived the spot at the wrong
> time, it was high tide, so I was not able to test it at real subjects inside
> reach. But I think we will get along very well. It is more than a handful,
> but it sure makes me feel powerful ;-)

So now, you're officialy the Warrior Viking of PDML having the double 
handed PDML viKing-sword ;-).

> I was quite surprised about how much easier it is to focus then my Tokina
> AT-X 150-500/5,6. The contrast is a lot better, but I also believe the half
> step down has something to do with it. 
> One other thing, the 1,7 AF converter was able to focus at some motifs.
> That's fun.

Please show us the pictures ... ;-)

Boris


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Re: I got - the power :-)

[John Celio]

>A list member asked me kindly to give his K 500/4,5 a good home.
> As the gentleman I am, I did accept.
>
> It arrived today in very good condition. It's a dinosaur, but it's also a
> real beauty.

Isn't it a great lens?  I got incredibly lucky when I got mine.  Some NorCal 
list members may remember me using mine at our last gathering, when we were 
out shooting the Blue Angels from San Francisco.

My favorite part of the 500mm 4.5 is the sights on the top, which (as long 
as you have them aligned properly) allow you to shoot without having to look 
through the viewfinder.  This is how I was able to catch the Blue Angels 
crossing directly in line with my lens, which I don't think the other guys 
were able to do.  Seeing a full view makes long telephoto shooting of action 
scenes a HELL of a lot easier, since you can see what'll be in the frame 
before it gets there.

http://www.neovenator.com/special/angels.jpg

(note: that's a kinda big crop, since they weren't that close to us when 
doing this maneuver.)

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OT: AFL Grand Final

[David Savage]

I know many of you have been hanging out for this game so I'll keep
you up to date. :-)

At quarter time the West Coast Eagles are ahead of the Sydney Swans by
16 points.

Despite the scoreline it's very even contest.

Next score update at halftime...

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Re: Pentax 300/4 for 6x7

[Doug Miles]

I can't be much help, as my 6x7 300mm is sitting in my closet too. I found a
good deal on  a  used 6x7->K mount adaptor, and also have a few K-mount
Pentaxes. But I have not yet used the adaptor... though if I ever have a yen
to use a 300mm lens (on either format), well, there they are. Unused
versatility. I use my 6x7 gear quite a lot, but mostly with normal to wide
lenses.

The K adaptor does not retain diaphragm automation, while I believe the
6x7->645 does. That adaptor could be useful in the event of a P645D.

Mi Doug

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> memories of my SMC tak 300/4, but I sold it when I was raising money
> for the D. I have the 6x7 lens, and I'm wondering if purchasing the K
> adapter is worthwhile. I probably will keep my 6x7 kit for now, so
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[David Savage]

Give this a try:

- Right Click on your desktop ans select "Properties",
- Click on the "Appearance" tab,
- Click on the "Advanced" tab,
- Under "Item" select "Message Box" from the drop down list,
- Under font size change it to one your more comfortable with, click
"OK" then "Apply".

This will make your URL bar text, as well as the browser tab labels &
favorite text in Firefox larger.

Now I'm using Windows XP x64 so I don't know if this is valid for Win98.

HTH

Dave

On 9/30/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in
> the URL location box so I
> can actually see them.

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Re: FS: Stuff

[Robert and Leigh Woerner]

Yeah manlike totally cool manlike peyote manlike I owned 
mine for five and a half years and like, sniff, sniff, didn't use it 
much, so, sniff, sniffsold it to finance purchases of faster glass 
for my AF film bodiesLX...ahhh...LX wink back at yagreat 
viewfinder...dead on exposures on slide filmhey,, I want it 
back, I changed my mindsniff, sniff.

Hah!


Cotty wrote:
> On 29/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> OK.
>>
>> What is it?
>> 
>
> Well, it's difficult to describe... I mean - you know, it's just that
> warm pleasant feeling that you  get from owning an LX - it's sort of,
> you know, that peaceful.ahhh, sort of contented feeling...man.
>
> ;-)
>
> PS - I'm having to act here as I sold mine!
>
> LX owners know what I'm talking about.man.
>
>   



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Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[J and K Messervy]

Damn, all of these bad puns are making me crabby.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?


> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>> 
>> > Has this thread finally conch-ed out?
>> 
>> Sure looks like every one has clammed up.
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
> 
> Yeah - even Bob SHELL 
> 
> annsan
> 
> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Perry Pellechia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?
>> 
>> > Has this thread finally conch-ed out?
>> >
>> > On 9/29/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Sorry. I'll back off. I don't want to make anemone of you.
>> >>
>> >> Stop squidding around!
>> >>
>> >> -frank
>> >>
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>> >
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Re: Who had the 13 x 19 photo album from Light Impressions?

[Kenneth Waller]

Mark - I'm the one that had the 12X18 prints.
So you remembered the prints but not me!
I'm glad you remembered they were VERY impressive prints .

In the September issue of the Light impression catalog, the album is shown 
on page 89, item number 10057. To mount these size images you'll need item 
number 7817, shown on page 86 - extra  large corners.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Who had the 13 x 19 photo album from Light Impressions?


> At GFM 2005 someone showed me their very impressive 12 x 18 prints in
> a very nice archival portfolio album made by (I think) Light
> Impressions. Anyone know who it was and what the catalog number of the
> album might be?
>
> I've searched the Light Impressions web site and can't find it, but
> the site's organization and search leave much to be desired so I'm not
> sure if it's discontinued or just hidden.
>
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> 412-687-2835
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Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[Paul Stenquist]

You're probably just overdriving the bass.
Paul

On Sep 29, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

>> You're a sick man.  You clearly are in need of some kelp.
>
> I can hear the whaling now.
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?
>
>
>> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Doh! What was I fin-king?
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> You're a sick man.  You clearly are in need of some kelp.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[Kenneth Waller]

> You're probably just overdriving the bass.
> Paul

Nah, I just said it for the halibut.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?


> You're probably just overdriving the bass.
> Paul
> 
> On Sep 29, 2006, at 11:45 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
>>> You're a sick man.  You clearly are in need of some kelp.
>>
>> I can hear the whaling now.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?
>>
>>
>>> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Doh! What was I fin-king?
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> You're a sick man.  You clearly are in need of some kelp.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> frank
>>>
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Jack Davis]

;-))

Jack

--- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "P. J. Alling" wrote:
> > 
> > If you're going to have a high speed connection you might as well
> > download it directly.
> > 
> > http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
> > 
> 
> Thanks, P.J. 
> What I want to do -- 
> I just am a a bit paranoid about finding the correct site
> for doing it myself...
> (annsan queen of typos) just insurance 
> 
> I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in
> the URL location box so I 
> can actually see them.
> 
> :)
> ann 
> 
> 
> > Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> > 
> > >Update --
> > >I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was
> > >another $50
> > >
> > >it comes with a 90 day "trial " of Pc-illin - which
> > >hopefully will protect me until I
> > >download something free :)
> > >
> > >There is going to be stuff on it I don't want but hopefully
> > >I can uninstall or just ignore.
> > >
> > >Since there will be lots of room, I think I'll just scoot
> > >the icons off my desktop and pretend they
> > >arent there.
> > >
> > >Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
> > >or was it Rob that sent me there?
> > >
> > >Just incase that is a bettwer way to download it than
> > >transfering from the old machine
> > >
> > >
> > >ann
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
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> > 
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Re: Pentax 300/4 for 6x7

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist"
Subject: Pentax 300/4 for 6x7


> Has anyone tried this lens on a 35mm camera or a D? I have fond
> memories of my SMC tak 300/4, but I sold it when I was raising money
> for the D. I have the 6x7 lens, and I'm wondering if purchasing the K
> adapter is worthwhile. I probably will keep my 6x7 kit for now, so
> the lens is in my closet.

If I can find my 6x7 to K adaptor, I'll give it a try this weekend. I 
can use the FA300/4.5 as a comparison to a known good lens.

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Re: Waiting for orders from Pentax...

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Hamilton"
Subject: Waiting for orders from Pentax...


>I ordered a black 77 limited from McBain Camera on Sept 1.  They
> placed the order to Pentax Canada the next day.  It's now September 29
> and I have no lens.  I've talked to McBain Camera, and they have not
> really found out any information as to when the lens will arrive.
> They say it normally takes 2-3 weeks for special orders to arrive.
>
> Is it unreasonable to wait a month for a lens?  Thinking of other
> retailers that I've ordered from - B&H had my 20-35f/4 to me within 3
> weeks (and that's across the border), and KEH had my 43 limited it to
> me within a week and a half.
>
> Is this normal for Pentax?  Pentax Canada?  Anyone?

As far as I know, the black limited lenses are not officially available
in Canada.
I'll check with Don's tomorrow.
I got my black limiteds from Kerrisdale Camera in Vancouver. I believe
they imported them from outside the PCI food chain.

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Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[Ann Sanfedele]

Kenneth Waller wrote:
> 
> > Has this thread finally conch-ed out?
> 
> Sure looks like every one has clammed up.
> 
> Kenneth Waller

Yeah - even Bob SHELL 

annsan


> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Perry Pellechia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?
> 
> > Has this thread finally conch-ed out?
> >
> > On 9/29/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > Sorry. I'll back off. I don't want to make anemone of you.
> >>
> >> Stop squidding around!
> >>
> >> -frank
> >>
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> If you're going to have a high speed connection you might as well
> download it directly.
> 
> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
> 

Thanks, P.J. 
What I want to do -- 
I just am a a bit paranoid about finding the correct site
for doing it myself...
(annsan queen of typos) just insurance 

I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in
the URL location box so I 
can actually see them.

:)
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> >I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was
> >another $50
> >
> >it comes with a 90 day "trial " of Pc-illin - which
> >hopefully will protect me until I
> >download something free :)
> >
> >There is going to be stuff on it I don't want but hopefully
> >I can uninstall or just ignore.
> >
> >Since there will be lots of room, I think I'll just scoot
> >the icons off my desktop and pretend they
> >arent there.
> >
> >Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
> >or was it Rob that sent me there?
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Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[Kenneth Waller]

> You're a sick man.  You clearly are in need of some kelp.

I can hear the whaling now.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?


> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Doh! What was I fin-king?
> 
> Mark,
> 
> You're a sick man.  You clearly are in need of some kelp.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> If you're going to have a high speed connection you might as well
> download it directly.
> 
> http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
> 

Thanks, P.J. 
What I want to do -- 
I just am a a bit paranoid about finding the correct site
for doing it myself...
(annsan queen of typos) just insurance 

I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in
the URL location box so I 
can actually see them.

:)
ann 


> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> >Update --
> >I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was
> >another $50
> >
> >it comes with a 90 day "trial " of Pc-illin - which
> >hopefully will protect me until I
> >download something free :)
> >
> >There is going to be stuff on it I don't want but hopefully
> >I can uninstall or just ignore.
> >
> >Since there will be lots of room, I think I'll just scoot
> >the icons off my desktop and pretend they
> >arent there.
> >
> >Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
> >or was it Rob that sent me there?
> >
> >Just incase that is a bettwer way to download it than
> >transfering from the old machine
> >
> >
> >ann
> >
> >
> >
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Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[Kenneth Waller]

> Has this thread finally conch-ed out?

Sure looks like every one has clammed up.

Kenneth Waller

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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 8:41 PM
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> Has this thread finally conch-ed out?
> 
> On 9/29/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Sorry. I'll back off. I don't want to make anemone of you.
>>
>> Stop squidding around!
>>
>> -frank
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Re: Waiting for orders from Pentax...

[Paul Stenquist]

I've never had to wait longer than the shipping time for any lens or  
camera that B&H indicated was in stock. I've been thinking about  
ordering a black 77 limited, but I wonder if the DA 70 might be  
better on APS-C digital sensors.
Paul
On Sep 29, 2006, at 11:16 PM, Doug Miles wrote:

> Mike, I sympathize! My 77mm arrived 10 days ago from B&H after  
> taking 11
> days to arrive after the order. But I believe they had the item in  
> stock.
> They are "taking orders" for the 43mm now and who knows how long  
> delivery
> might take, if ever.
>
> One situation perhaps similar to yours occurred again with B&H on  
> an order
> for a KA-mount Voigtlander Ultron 40mm f/2. That one was a special  
> order,
> and took about 6 weeks to from order to invoice date, then another  
> 5 days to
> arrive.
>
> I get the impression that the Limited series has hit the limit, and  
> it might
> be that no more are shipping from Asahi in Japan. Not sure, just  
> feels that
> way from what I'm seeing online. McBain and Pentax Canada may be  
> scouring
> around trying to find one...
>
> Best of luck!
> Mi Doug
>
> On 09/29/06 17:07, "Mike Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I ordered a black 77 limited from McBain Camera on Sept 1.  They
>> placed the order to Pentax Canada the next day.  It's now  
>> September 29
>> and I have no lens.
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Re: you tube video

[David Savage]

Why are you yelling?

Dave

On 9/30/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Turn it off (SR) or DON'T ZOOM!
> jco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Lesser
> Hi All:
> In the video about the K10D, the guy says you have to program-in the
> focal length of the lens you are using in order to invoke the shake
> reduction technology.  What do you do for a zoom lens

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Re: Nikon D200 Shipments Delayed

[Amita Guha]

On 9/29/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob Galbraith says the D200 shipments to Canada have been delayed.  ETA is
> Dec 19 for Canada, which doesn't bode well for Christmas sales. He wonders
> (as do I) if there will be delays in other countries as well. If so, it
> would sure push more customers in the
> direction of Pentax, even if only in Canada.

Or it might make us order our D200s earlier. Thanks for the heads up, Shel! ;)

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Re: leaving soon for Greece

[Amita Guha]

On 9/29/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greece is nice. I've been to several of the islands over the years,
> including Santorini. I arrived on Santorini after spending a month on
> Serifos, which was very quiet, unspoiled and idyllic at the time
> (don't know if it's changed since). Santorini felt very touristy and
> busy to me, as a result, but it's very photogenic with nice sunsets
> over the caldera. The black sand on the beaches is a peculiar
> experience.

I know that Santorini is touristy, and I'm not looking forward to that
part, but I'm hoping it won't be too bad since we're going so late in
the season. I want do want to visit Sifnos and Serifos; maybe next
time.

> The climb up from the ferry port is quite hard work.

So I heard. Now there is a cable car that takes you to the top. :)

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RE: you tube video

[J. C. O'Connell]

Turn it off (SR) or DON'T ZOOM!
jco

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:33 PM
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Hi All:
In the video about the K10D, the guy says you have to program-in the 
focal length of the lens you are using in order to invoke the shake 
reduction technology.  What do you do for a zoom lens

Tom Lesser
Frederick MD

On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Kevin Bailey wrote:

> I believe, I found the link to the youtube K10D video thru a posting
> here (or was it dpreview?)
>
> re:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hjKijLOj9s


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Re: Card recovery question again

[Paul Stenquist]

I have some Mac CF card recovery software form Lexar. I can e-mail it  
to you if you wish.
Paul
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:53 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> The search function in the archives doesn't seem to be
> working, and I would like to use our Mac to recover
> some PEF files from my 2 gig Sandisk card.
> Photorescue couldn't seem to hack it, though it tried
> 7 different recovery methods.  Any advice?
>
> Rick
>
> http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: Exclusive Hands-On Preview: Pentax K10D

[Joseph Tainter]

On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:

 > In my religion, one should read other posts of the lists one posts to.


"Post unto others as you would have them post unto you."

Bob

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Blessed are the postmakers.

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Good ones, Bob and Tom. Made my evening.

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Re: Waiting for orders from Pentax...

[Doug Miles]

Mike, I sympathize! My 77mm arrived 10 days ago from B&H after taking 11
days to arrive after the order. But I believe they had the item in stock.
They are "taking orders" for the 43mm now and who knows how long delivery
might take, if ever.

One situation perhaps similar to yours occurred again with B&H on an order
for a KA-mount Voigtlander Ultron 40mm f/2. That one was a special order,
and took about 6 weeks to from order to invoice date, then another 5 days to
arrive.

I get the impression that the Limited series has hit the limit, and it might
be that no more are shipping from Asahi in Japan. Not sure, just feels that
way from what I'm seeing online. McBain and Pentax Canada may be scouring
around trying to find one...

Best of luck!
Mi Doug

On 09/29/06 17:07, "Mike Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I ordered a black 77 limited from McBain Camera on Sept 1.  They
> placed the order to Pentax Canada the next day.  It's now September 29
> and I have no lens.


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Re: This Weekend

[Paul Stenquist]

A few others I overlooked. A couple of rolls of Pan F 50 120, a  
couple rolls of Ektagraphic 135, and last but not least, one roll of  
Verichrome Pan 120. That last one is only about four years past the  
expiration date. And it's been in the freezer since I bought it. I'm  
going to shoot it.
Paul
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Gonz wrote:

>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I think I'm going to shoot some 6x7 BW this weekend. I haven't shot
>> any film in two years. I have an itch. I think shooting Grace in the
>> backyard or people on the street with the 165/4 leaf shutter and
>> some  high speed synch fill flash could be fun. I still have some
>> Plus X 120 in the freezer.
>> Paul
>>
>>
>
> Go for it Paul.  You are an inspiration. I still have a partial  
> roll of
> K24 on my PZ1, and the bloody batteries have died, I dont know what  
> will
> happen when I put new batts.  But, I want to finish the roll, before
> Kodak dicides its too late to process, or have I already reached  
> that point?
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Re: Card recovery question again

[David Savage]

I can't help with Mac software.

If you have access to a PC I recommend PC Inspector Smart Recovery:



It doesn't recognise .pef files, but if you search for .tif files it
will work. Then change the recovered files extension from .tif to
.pef.

Dave

On 9/30/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> The search function in the archives doesn't seem to be
> working, and I would like to use our Mac to recover
> some PEF files from my 2 gig Sandisk card.
> Photorescue couldn't seem to hack it, though it tried
> 7 different recovery methods.  Any advice?

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Re: This Weekend

[Paul Stenquist]

I just went down to the basement and checked out my film supply in  
the deep freeze. (I had to chip away some ice to get to the film  
bags.) I have a lot of Portra VC 160 in both 35mm and 120. I have  
quite a bit of Delta 3200 120, which is great for handheld 6x7  
indoors. I have several rolls of Plus X 120, quite a bit of Fuji NPS  
120, some Tri-X 35m,m some Delta 100 120 and even some Velvia 120.  
Gotta shoot some of this. I pulled two rolls of the Portra 160 120  
and two of the Plus-X 120. But i think I'll go back down and get some  
35mm film for my Leica IIIf RD. This could be a film weekend, while I  
wat for the K10D.
Paul
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Gonz wrote:

>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I think I'm going to shoot some 6x7 BW this weekend. I haven't shot
>> any film in two years. I have an itch. I think shooting Grace in the
>> backyard or people on the street with the 165/4 leaf shutter and
>> some  high speed synch fill flash could be fun. I still have some
>> Plus X 120 in the freezer.
>> Paul
>>
>>
>
> Go for it Paul.  You are an inspiration. I still have a partial  
> roll of
> K24 on my PZ1, and the bloody batteries have died, I dont know what  
> will
> happen when I put new batts.  But, I want to finish the roll, before
> Kodak dicides its too late to process, or have I already reached  
> that point?
>
> rg
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Card recovery question again

[Rick Womer]

Hey folks,

The search function in the archives doesn't seem to be
working, and I would like to use our Mac to recover
some PEF files from my 2 gig Sandisk card. 
Photorescue couldn't seem to hack it, though it tried
7 different recovery methods.  Any advice?

Rick

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Re: This Weekend

[Gonz]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think I'm going to shoot some 6x7 BW this weekend. I haven't shot  
> any film in two years. I have an itch. I think shooting Grace in the  
> backyard or people on the street with the 165/4 leaf shutter and  
> some  high speed synch fill flash could be fun. I still have some  
> Plus X 120 in the freezer.
> Paul
> 
> 

Go for it Paul.  You are an inspiration. I still have a partial roll of 
K24 on my PZ1, and the bloody batteries have died, I dont know what will 
happen when I put new batts.  But, I want to finish the roll, before 
Kodak dicides its too late to process, or have I already reached that point?

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Re: Re: Exclusive Hands-On Preview: Pentax K10D

[Russell Kerstetter]

Ask not what your postmaker can do for you; ask what you can do for
your postmaker!

russell

On 9/29/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What's so special about the postmakers?
>
> On 9/29/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Blessed are the postmakers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> > >Subject: Re: Exclusive Hands-On Preview: Pentax K10D
> > >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:07:39 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> > >
> > > > In my religion, one should read other posts of the lists one posts to.
> > >
> > >
> > >"Post unto others as you would have them post unto you."
> > >
> > >Bob
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Re: Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[Russell Kerstetter]

I shore hope not, I've only just begun to join in with my piers!

nice shot btw, Bruce.

russell

On 9/29/06, Perry Pellechia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has this thread finally conch-ed out?

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Re: PESO - Looking up

[Russell Kerstetter]

nice on the exposure.  I like the composition, it's very simple.

russell

On 9/28/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quite a difference in technique for me with this one.
>
> Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 45mm, handheld
> ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3417a.htm
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> Comments welcome
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Re: you tube video

[P. J. Alling]

You don't have to program in the focal length of every lens to get shake 
reduction, only the A and K mount class lenses.  If you have F lenses or 
later you have no problems.  If I remember correctly the display for 
entering the lens length shows a range.  Maybe it'll be acceptable 
within that range if you take normal care in holding the camera steady. 

Tom Lesser wrote:

>Hi All:
>In the video about the K10D, the guy says you have to program-in the 
>focal length of the lens you are using in order to invoke the shake 
>reduction technology.  What do you do for a zoom lens
>
>Tom Lesser
>Frederick MD
>
>On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Kevin Bailey wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I believe, I found the link to the youtube K10D video thru a posting
>>here (or was it dpreview?)
>>
>>re:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hjKijLOj9s
>>
>>
>
>
>  
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[P. J. Alling]

If you're going to have a high speed connection you might as well 
download it directly. 

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>Update --
>I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was
>another $50
>
>it comes with a 90 day "trial " of Pc-illin - which
>hopefully will protect me until I 
>download something free :)
>
>There is going to be stuff on it I don't want but hopefully
>I can uninstall or just ignore.
>
>Since there will be lots of room, I think I'll just scoot 
>the icons off my desktop and pretend they
>arent there.
>
>Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
>or was it Rob that sent me there?
>
>Just incase that is a bettwer way to download it than
>transfering from the old machine
>
>
>ann
>
>  
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This Weekend

[Paul Stenquist]

I think I'm going to shoot some 6x7 BW this weekend. I haven't shot  
any film in two years. I have an itch. I think shooting Grace in the  
backyard or people on the street with the 165/4 leaf shutter and  
some  high speed synch fill flash could be fun. I still have some  
Plus X 120 in the freezer.
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Re: Pentax 300/4 for 6x7

[Paul Stenquist]

That's kind of what I've thought, so I haven't bothered. But I don't  
have a 300, and this one is relatively fast. It would be fun to see  
how sharp it is on that little sensor. But probably disapointing
Paul
On Sep 29, 2006, at 10:06 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> On 30/09/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Has anyone tried this lens on a 35mm camera or a D? I have fond
>> memories of my SMC tak 300/4, but I sold it when I was raising money
>> for the D. I have the 6x7 lens, and I'm wondering if purchasing the K
>> adapter is worthwhile. I probably will keep my 6x7 kit for now, so
>> the lens is in my closet.
>
> Not really worth the effort of finding an adaptor IMHO,  you've got
> plenty of lenses that will do a better job on your DSLRs.
>
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Re: you tube video

[P. J. Alling]

The adapters have been around for a long time.  The crop factor is by my 
calculations which are relatively naive, about 3.2 x on the diagonal.

Kevin Bailey wrote:

>Hello,
>I've been a member of this list for a couple of weeks now. I'm on the
>edge of my seat like many others looking at/waiting for all the new
>stuff.
>
>I believe, I found the link to the youtube K10D video thru a posting
>here (or was it dpreview?)
>
>re:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hjKijLOj9s
>
>Anyway,  during the video, Carlson  pulls out a 6x7 lens, puts in on
>the K10D and shoots away. What is the crop factor for a 6x7 lens (is
>it 4x)?
>Are the adapters a new release or have they been around for some time?
>
>Thank You,
>Kevin
>
>  
>


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Re: Pentax 300/4 for 6x7

[Mat Maessen]

On 9/29/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone tried this lens on a 35mm camera or a D? I have fond
> memories of my SMC tak 300/4, but I sold it when I was raising money
> for the D. I have the 6x7 lens, and I'm wondering if purchasing the K

I'm wondering if the 300/4 is similar to my SMC Tak 400/5.6, where the
6x7 version of the lens was exactly the same optically, but had a
different lens mount and tripod mount assembly. IIRC, you can remove
the lens element/aperture assembly from the back half of the mount,
and put the mount from a 6x7 lens onto it.

If you can get a 67 adapter for less than the cost of a K-mount or
screw mount 300/4, you're ahead of the game. Granted there are
probably better 300mm lenses out there, but they're also more
expensive.

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Re: you tube video

[John Francis]

The "A" lenses can't tell the camera the focal length, even for
a fixed focal length lens.  You need a lens with the digital
signal pin - F or later.


On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 06:42:42PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> AFAIK, that's not completely correct.  You program in the focal length of
> older, lenses, but the newer lenses (F and later - maybe even A) tell the
> camera what the focal length is.  My _guess_ is that if you're using an
> older zoom, you'd want to advise the camera of the focal length just as you
> would with an older prime lens.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Tom Lesser 
> 
> > In the video about the K10D, the guy 
> > says you have to program-in the 
> > focal length of the lens you are using
> > in order to invoke the shake 
> > reduction technology.  What do you do for a 
> > zoom lens
> 
> 
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[P. J. Alling]

Funny, elements 4 says clearly on the package that it only works with XP. 

Mat Maessen wrote:

>On 9/29/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>>I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP
>>>and I've found Win2k very reliable.
>>>  
>>>
>>Have you figured out how to convince the new Adobe applications to
>>install on 2000?
>>
>>
>
>Which new Adobe applications? Photoshop CS2 installs just fine on
>windows 2000. I haven't tried the Lightroom beta though.
>
>In general, anything that works on XP will work on 2k as well.
>
>-Mat
>
>  
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Re: Pentax 300/4 for 6x7

[Digital Image Studio]

On 30/09/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone tried this lens on a 35mm camera or a D? I have fond
> memories of my SMC tak 300/4, but I sold it when I was raising money
> for the D. I have the 6x7 lens, and I'm wondering if purchasing the K
> adapter is worthwhile. I probably will keep my 6x7 kit for now, so
> the lens is in my closet.

Not really worth the effort of finding an adaptor IMHO,  you've got
plenty of lenses that will do a better job on your DSLRs.

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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[graywolf]

On the other hand mine seems to be doing quite well with only 512mb 
(including running CS2). But then, I am one of those old school guys who 
keeps open apps to a minimum.

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keith_w wrote:
> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>> Update --
>> I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was
>> another $50
> 
> You'll just have to take my word for it...you will NEVER be unhappy you got 
> extra RAM!
> Without except I know about, all computers run more smoothly the more RAM 
> they 
> have!
> Pay attention some day to folks that only have 250 or 500 MB.
> 
> keith
> 
>> it comes with a 90 day "trial " of Pc-illin - which
>> hopefully will protect me until I 
>> download something free :)
>>
>> There is going to be stuff on it I don't want but hopefully
>> I can uninstall or just ignore.
>>
>> Since there will be lots of room, I think I'll just scoot 
>> the icons off my desktop and pretend they
>> arent there.
>>
>> Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
>> or was it Rob that sent me there?
>>
>> Just incase that is a bettwer way to download it than
>> transfering from the old machine
>>
>>
>> ann
>>
> 
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

David J Brooks wrote:
> 
> Quoting Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >
> > Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
> > or was it Rob that sent me there?
> 
> Ann, i only use firefox on my pc machine. Love it
> 
> Dave
> >
>
I have it on my PC now - also love it

I just thought it would be better to download it to the XP
from the web
than transfer it from the old computer 

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Pentax 300/4 for 6x7

[Paul Stenquist]

Has anyone tried this lens on a 35mm camera or a D? I have fond  
memories of my SMC tak 300/4, but I sold it when I was raising money  
for the D. I have the 6x7 lens, and I'm wondering if purchasing the K  
adapter is worthwhile. I probably will keep my 6x7 kit for now, so  
the lens is in my closet.
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

"P. J. Alling" wrote:
> 
> No!  For the love of God! Don't even try to load Norton for Win98se on
> an XP box!
> 

ok boss :)

ann


> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> >Mark Roberts wrote:
> >
> >
> >>David J Brooks wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> Replace the "30-day trial" versions of the stuff they try to foist on
> you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from
> www.avast.com
> 
> 
> >>>Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my
> >>>machine down.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>The network guy who run the web hosting company I use swears by the
> >>Avast software and *hates* Norton.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
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> >>www.robertstech.com
> >>412-687-2835
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >I have Norton - but old NOrton -
> >I can just slap that on the pc and go on line and get the
> >updates, yes?
> >
> >I loved Norton nav in Dos and still use it to find some
> >stuff wondoze doesnt
> >like me to know I have
> >
> >ann
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: GFM Photo winners (for those who missed the mention in another thread)

[D Brooks]

Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I mentioned it in a different thread, but I thought it might benefit
>> from a relevant subject line: The winners of this past June's
>> Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend photo contest are now
>> on line. Best of show turned out to be a Pentax shot.
>>
>> http://www.grandfather.com/planning_your_visit/events/npw2006.php
>>
>
> Who the hell were the judges, anyway?

Ya, were are the second place photos

LOL

Dave
>
> cheers,
> frank, stirring the pot...
>
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Re: you tube video

[Shel Belinkoff]

AFAIK, that's not completely correct.  You program in the focal length of
older, lenses, but the newer lenses (F and later - maybe even A) tell the
camera what the focal length is.  My _guess_ is that if you're using an
older zoom, you'd want to advise the camera of the focal length just as you
would with an older prime lens.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Tom Lesser 

> In the video about the K10D, the guy 
> says you have to program-in the 
> focal length of the lens you are using
> in order to invoke the shake 
> reduction technology.  What do you do for a 
> zoom lens



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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[keith_w]

Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> Update --
> I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was
> another $50

You'll just have to take my word for it...you will NEVER be unhappy you got 
extra RAM!
Without except I know about, all computers run more smoothly the more RAM they 
have!
Pay attention some day to folks that only have 250 or 500 MB.

keith

> it comes with a 90 day "trial " of Pc-illin - which
> hopefully will protect me until I 
> download something free :)
> 
> There is going to be stuff on it I don't want but hopefully
> I can uninstall or just ignore.
> 
> Since there will be lots of room, I think I'll just scoot 
> the icons off my desktop and pretend they
> arent there.
> 
> Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
> or was it Rob that sent me there?
> 
> Just incase that is a bettwer way to download it than
> transfering from the old machine
> 
> 
> ann
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Re: Exclusive Hands-On Preview: Pentax K10D

[Scott Loveless]

What's so special about the postmakers?

On 9/29/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Blessed are the postmakers.
>
>
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>
> >From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: Re: Exclusive Hands-On Preview: Pentax K10D
> >Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 15:07:39 -0400
> >
> >
> >On Sep 29, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
> >
> > > In my religion, one should read other posts of the lists one posts to.
> >
> >
> >"Post unto others as you would have them post unto you."
> >
> >Bob
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Re: you tube video

[Tom Lesser]

Hi All:
In the video about the K10D, the guy says you have to program-in the 
focal length of the lens you are using in order to invoke the shake 
reduction technology.  What do you do for a zoom lens

Tom Lesser
Frederick MD

On Sep 29, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Kevin Bailey wrote:

> I believe, I found the link to the youtube K10D video thru a posting
> here (or was it dpreview?)
>
> re:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hjKijLOj9s


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Re: K10D vs D80

[P. J. Alling]

I haven't heard of anything from Pentax.  I just checked the lens road 
map and there doesn't seem to be anything in the near future either.+

Juan Buhler wrote:

>A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his
>main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D.
>
>Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs
>are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says
>that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry
>any extra lenses (!).
>
>I told him the kit DA18-55 is very good, but that I don't think Pentax
>has anything equivalent to Nikon's 18-135. Is that so?  Anything else
>I should tell him?
>
>j
>
>  
>


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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[David J Brooks]

Quoting Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
> or was it Rob that sent me there?

Ann, i only use firefox on my pc machine. Love it

Dave
>
> Just incase that is a bettwer way to download it than
> transfering from the old machine
>
>
> ann
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

MItch -
well  my young friend, Renzo, did not show up today. 
Last time I talked to him he was waiting for UPS to deliver
his laptop
(shipped from overseas)  

HE is eager and bright and helpful when he is here, but
isn't so good at
letting someone know that he can't show up.  

HE got a windoze 98Sse cd , he told me, when we spoke this
afternoon -- I just asked him
to give me a buzz when he was on his way to my apt. 

I can't yell at him too easily because he is the
roomy/fiance of my best friends daughter...
and doing all this stuff for me totally free.  

As I a result I got some more sleep today, but little annoys
me quite as much as 
people who say they are going to do something and can't at
least say they can't get to it.

I wouldn't mind quite so much if HE hadn't been the one to
say he really wanted to do it
today.  sigh. 
I could have gone and gotten the disk from him, too
though I preferred to have someone
here for the possible struggle.


Another resource is out of town... 
Yet another is a guy I worked with many years ago when I was
his techno idol of sorts in
the market research software stuff. it is all flipped now.


I wish I could buy memory for my brain on the web!

ann




Mitch Conant wrote:
> 
> Ann:
> 
> Good choice on the DELL. I've used Dell for several business clients,
> they all seem to be happy with them.
> 
> I too, use AVG and LOVE it. I put it on client PCs, use it on all 3 of
> my workstations (Win 98SE, NT 4.0 and Win2000) as well as my Win2000
> server and my Linux server. I have never had anything get through
> (feverishly looking for wood to knock on). I think that as part of the
> installation process on the Dell, you have the option of installing
> Norton Anti-Virus. I wouldn't do it, I would get AVG from the link below.
> 
> Someone else in this thread mentioned a firewall. I have always used the
> Linksys Firewall/Switch. The firewall is a BIG part of your security,
> the Switch would allow you to connect the 2 computers (if you have an
> ethernet port in the old computer - $10.00-$15.00) and share Internet,
> Printers, Scanner, etc.Some people swear by the software firewall,
> Iswear by the hardware. I do so because a software firewall is
> suceptible to the same issues as other software (crashes, being unloaded
> behind the scenes, not being loaded at startup, being hacked
> (IMO)...etc...). See the link below.
> 
> Let me know if you need the Win98SE disk...
> 
> Have fun,
> Mitch
> 
> AVG Free Version: http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1
> Linksys Firewall/Switch:
> http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/Search.do?c=1&context=99021825&keyword=befsr41&searchSection=All&go.x=0&go.y=0
> 
> 
> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
> >Sigh -
> >
> >this is what I'm getting
> >Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB
> >DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
> >
> >It should be here by Oct 5th.
> >Comments on this machine?
> >
> >
> >My young friend is coming over today to help me with the
> >failed usb port situation
> >on the old puter...
> >
> >ann
> >
> >
> >
> 
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[P. J. Alling]

I'd be interested in that too, since I've been using 7.0 with my W2K 
machine.

Scott Loveless wrote:

>On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP
>>and I've found Win2k very reliable.
>>
>>
>>
>Have you figured out how to convince the new Adobe applications to
>install on 2000?
>
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Re: FS: Stuff

[David Savage]

On 9/30/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 29/9/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >OK.
> >
> >What is it?
>
> Well, it's difficult to describe... I mean - you know, it's just that
> warm pleasant feeling that you  get from owning an LX - it's sort of,
> you know, that peaceful.ahhh, sort of contented feeling...man.
>
> ;-)
>
> PS - I'm having to act here as I sold mine!
>
> LX owners know what I'm talking about.man.

I am an LX owner.

I think I know what you mean now. I thought the wink might have been
something specific that I may have missed. (I've only had it for a
couple of years)

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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[P. J. Alling]

I think you're missing something.  OEM's stopped supplying install disks 
with W2K.  Now everything comes installed on the harddrive.  You can 
create an install backup set from your computer just in case the HD 
crashes but most of the time there's a method, differing between  each 
manufacturer I'm sure, to restore from a hidden partition on the current 
hard drive.  Unfortunately you get your original factory installation 
back, including all of the free bloatwear.

Mark Roberts wrote:

>Bill Owens wrote:
>
>  
>
>>How can you do a clean install w/o an OS CD
>>
>>
>
>You can't!
>(You should have received one with your computer, though.)
> 
>  
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

Update --
I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was
another $50

it comes with a 90 day "trial " of Pc-illin - which
hopefully will protect me until I 
download something free :)

There is going to be stuff on it I don't want but hopefully
I can uninstall or just ignore.

Since there will be lots of room, I think I'll just scoot 
the icons off my desktop and pretend they
arent there.

Mark - what was the site I downloaded Mozilla firefox from?
or was it Rob that sent me there?

Just incase that is a bettwer way to download it than
transfering from the old machine


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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[P. J. Alling]

No!  For the love of God! Don't even try to load Norton for Win98se on 
an XP box!

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>  
>
>>David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Replace the "30-day trial" versions of the stuff they try to foist on
you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from
www.avast.com


>>>Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my
>>>machine down.
>>>  
>>>
>>The network guy who run the web hosting company I use swears by the
>>Avast software and *hates* Norton.
>>
>>
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>>www.robertstech.com
>>412-687-2835
>>
>>
>>
>I have Norton - but old NOrton -
>I can just slap that on the pc and go on line and get the
>updates, yes?
>
>I loved Norton nav in Dos and still use it to find some
>stuff wondoze doesnt 
>like me to know I have
>
>ann
>
>
>
>
>  
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Re: Don Sanderson

[Gonz]

Good to hear from you.  Everything OK I hope?

rg


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Shel, Jostein, and all at PDML.
> Yep, I'm still alive! ;-/
> I got to spend a little quality hospital time to straighten out
> my "innards" and came home to a dead motherboard in my main computer.
> I'm back on line now, just didn't have the energy to fix the 'puter
> for a while.
> Getting ready to sell off a bunch of stuff to defray the medical bills
> a bit, I'll post a list here when I've got it ready.
> Looks like it's been pretty interesting around "Pentax Land" lately.
> The K10D looks to be a very promising beast, may even give the big boys
> a run for their money! ;-)
> 
> Thanks for noticing my absence.
> Don 
> 
> 
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>Shel Belinkoff
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:32 PM
>>To: PDML
>>Subject: Don Sanderson
>>
>>
>>Has anyone heard from Don recently?  He's not been seen on the list in
>>quite a while, and he's not responded to a couple of private emails.  I
>>hope he's OK.
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[P. J. Alling]

A Xbox is Microsoft's game machine for playing action games as opposed 
to all other Windows based machines which are for playing solitaire

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>Adam Maas wrote:
>  
>
>>MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to
>>make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to
>>interact with an XBox or XBox 360.
>>
>>-Adam
>>
>>
>
>What I want is the button to stop anything from moving on
>the screen - which, alas,
>may not be possible.
>
>I aint gonna watch no videos on it or listen to music. 
>
>what is an XBOX?
>
>ann
>
>
>
>  
>
>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade
>>>path.  According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive.  512mb
>>>of ram is marginal.  Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything
>>>much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight
>>>version of WinXP.  Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware
>>>- not a good thing.  You probably won't get a Windows disk with the
>>>machine, which, IMO, is a big failing.  What size hard drive are you
>>>getting?  Do you plan to run Photoshop?
>>>
>>>Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well.  I just don't
>>>see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade
>>>possibilities.
>>>
>>>Shel
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


>>>  
>>>
this is what I'm getting
Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171
512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz


>>>  
>>>
It should be here by Oct 5th.
Comments on this machine?


>>>
>>>
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

David J Brooks wrote:

>Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  
>
>>D Brooks wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Quoting Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
David J Brooks wrote:


>Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  
>
>>Replace the "30-day trial" versions of the stuff they try to foist on
>>you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from
>>www.avast.com
>>
>>
>Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my
>machine down.
>
>  
>
Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It
doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work.


>>>Tell me about it. To delete nav 2001 and install 2006, took a weekend.
>>>  
>>>
>>Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive
>>immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from
>>scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything
>>you want.
>>
>>
>
>This of course, if one knows how to do this. I have never done the  
>full delete c route, but i will quess its not overly difficult,  
>keeping in mind my 10 thumbs.:-)
>
>Dave
>  
>

Just  a bit over the top.   I have four Dell systems  here (along with a 
few older IBM PC's that are mostly mothballed at this time).  Two have 
Symantec (Norton SW) ; two Have McAffee.  All have long term support 
contracts.  I haven't "wiped the disks"  and haven't encountered any 
situations that would suggest a cost/effective benefit in doing so.  I 
gave up playing with PC's about ten years ago, I just want a platform to 
run applications on.   My experience suggest changing the software 
configuration too much could result in grief from the support chain, but 
that is just my experience.   I haven't had any trouble adding software 
--- takes some time now and then, but it gets done.  

Each installation/user combo has limits and objectives that need to be 
factored into setting up and configuring the system software and support 
facilities.  My experience suggests some of the generalizations 
surfacing here are just a bit counterproductive.  IMHO...

Otis Wright

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Re: PESO - Fishing...for what?

[Perry Pellechia]

Has this thread finally conch-ed out?

On 9/29/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Sorry. I'll back off. I don't want to make anemone of you.
>
> Stop squidding around!
>
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Mitch Conant]

Ann:

Good choice on the DELL. I've used Dell for several business clients, 
they all seem to be happy with them.

I too, use AVG and LOVE it. I put it on client PCs, use it on all 3 of 
my workstations (Win 98SE, NT 4.0 and Win2000) as well as my Win2000 
server and my Linux server. I have never had anything get through 
(feverishly looking for wood to knock on). I think that as part of the 
installation process on the Dell, you have the option of installing 
Norton Anti-Virus. I wouldn't do it, I would get AVG from the link below.

Someone else in this thread mentioned a firewall. I have always used the 
Linksys Firewall/Switch. The firewall is a BIG part of your security, 
the Switch would allow you to connect the 2 computers (if you have an 
ethernet port in the old computer - $10.00-$15.00) and share Internet, 
Printers, Scanner, etc.Some people swear by the software firewall, 
Iswear by the hardware. I do so because a software firewall is 
suceptible to the same issues as other software (crashes, being unloaded 
behind the scenes, not being loaded at startup, being hacked 
(IMO)...etc...). See the link below.

Let me know if you need the Win98SE disk...

Have fun,
Mitch

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Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>Sigh -
>
>this is what I'm getting
>Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB
>DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
>
>It should be here by Oct 5th.
>Comments on this machine?
>
>
>My young friend is coming over today to help me with the
>failed usb port situation
>on the old puter...
>
>ann
>
>  
>



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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

William Robb wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ann Sanfedele"
> Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL
> 
> >
> > I think I really have to ask someone to define "CURVES"
> > this is a buzz word of
> > the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :)
> 
> I've seen pictures of you (albeit from a few years ago), you know what
> curves are.
> WW
> 
>
bless you, Wheatfield :) HAR!

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Re: FS Friday (Pentax LX and Accessories)

[Paul Stenquist]

Wow! $730 for the body, and the auction isn't over. Maybe I should  
sell my LX.
Paul
On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:27 PM, Jose R. Rodriguez wrote:

> Everyone,
>
> As I mentioned last week, I am selling my Pentax LX & Accessories  
> to generate $$ for the new K10D.  The Auction ends tomorrow:
>
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjrrodriguezQQhtZ-1
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jose R. Rodriguez
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Re: you tube video

[John Francis]

On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 07:20:24PM -0500, Kevin Bailey wrote:
> Hello,
> I've been a member of this list for a couple of weeks now. I'm on the
> edge of my seat like many others looking at/waiting for all the new
> stuff.
> 
> I believe, I found the link to the youtube K10D video thru a posting
> here (or was it dpreview?)
> 
> re:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hjKijLOj9s
> 
> Anyway,  during the video, Carlson  pulls out a 6x7 lens, puts in on
> the K10D and shoots away. What is the crop factor for a 6x7 lens (is
> it 4x)?

Crop factor compared to what?
A 300mm 6x7 lens will look the same (through the K10D viewfinder
and to the sensor) as a 300mm K-mount lens.

A 35mm frame is 1.5x the size of the "APS-C" sensor in the K10D.
A frame of 6x7 film is (approximately) 2x the size of a 35mm frame,
which would make it about a 3x crop factor going from 6x7 to a K10D.


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Re: OT - Freelance Life, Here I Come

[John Coyle]

No, Mike - it was 18:45 here - nearly time for dinner!
The last time I drank hard liquor before noon was on board a ship going into 
lay-up at Falmouth - but that's a long story and I'll never, never do it 
again!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Freelance Life, Here I Come


>> From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2006/09/29 Fri AM 08:30:36 GMT
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: OT - Freelance Life, Here I Come
>>
>> Good news Cotty, congrats - but sometimes being a freelance can be scary!
>> The regular pay cheques just don't happen!
>> I'm raising a glass of BruichLaddich single malt to you right now...
>
> It's half past eight in the morning!  You're as bad as he is.
>
> 8-)
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you tube video

[Kevin Bailey]

Hello,
I've been a member of this list for a couple of weeks now. I'm on the
edge of my seat like many others looking at/waiting for all the new
stuff.

I believe, I found the link to the youtube K10D video thru a posting
here (or was it dpreview?)

re:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hjKijLOj9s

Anyway,  during the video, Carlson  pulls out a 6x7 lens, puts in on
the K10D and shoots away. What is the crop factor for a 6x7 lens (is
it 4x)?
Are the adapters a new release or have they been around for some time?

Thank You,
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Mat Maessen]

On 9/29/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP
> > and I've found Win2k very reliable.
> Have you figured out how to convince the new Adobe applications to
> install on 2000?

Which new Adobe applications? Photoshop CS2 installs just fine on
windows 2000. I haven't tried the Lightroom beta though.

In general, anything that works on XP will work on 2k as well.

-Mat

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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Scott Loveless]

On 9/29/06, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/29/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP
> > > and I've found Win2k very reliable.
> > Have you figured out how to convince the new Adobe applications to
> > install on 2000?
>
> Which new Adobe applications? Photoshop CS2 installs just fine on
> windows 2000. I haven't tried the Lightroom beta though.
>
> In general, anything that works on XP will work on 2k as well.
>
Elements 4 (and 5, I assume) and lightroom won't install.  The error
message states I must have XP.  Then the installer closes.

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Waiting for orders from Pentax...

[Mike Hamilton]

I ordered a black 77 limited from McBain Camera on Sept 1.  They
placed the order to Pentax Canada the next day.  It's now September 29
and I have no lens.  I've talked to McBain Camera, and they have not
really found out any information as to when the lens will arrive.
They say it normally takes 2-3 weeks for special orders to arrive.

Is it unreasonable to wait a month for a lens?  Thinking of other
retailers that I've ordered from - B&H had my 20-35f/4 to me within 3
weeks (and that's across the border), and KEH had my 43 limited it to
me within a week and a half.

Is this normal for Pentax?  Pentax Canada?  Anyone?

Mike

p.s.: I really want my 77 limited.  I think the guy at McBain is
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Adam Maas]

mike wilson wrote:
> Bob W wrote:
> 
>> Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I asked
>> for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>  Bob 
> 
> Latest models apparently have anti-tamper hardware.  You aren't allowed 
> to go inside if you want to retain warranty.
> 

That's common to the corporate models, I'm pretty sure it's not in the 
consumer models. It's meant to keep the salesguys from doing someting 
stupid (or finder them if they did). Makes IS's life easier if they can 
say 'the computer says you opened it'

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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

Bob W wrote:
> 
> Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I asked
> for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it.
> 
> --
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>  Bob

My understanding is that mine will, too. 

ann

> 
> > -Original Message-
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> > I get the impression Dell computers aren't held in high regard?
> >
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Ann Sanfedele]

Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> I didn't check later posts to see if someone answered this, so I'll
> touch on it.
> "Curves" is a feature that allows the adjusting of color tones. It
> permits altering highlights, midtones and shadows in each color
> channel.
> Useful, for example, in helping correct washed out, over-exposed or
> underexposed images. I've messed with it a bit and look forward to its
> helping to salvage my images.
> Pro FS (CS2) has had this tool for awhile.
> 
> Jack

Hehe - 
Well as it happens I do this all the time - in elements I
click on adjust color
and a thumbnails pop up to show previews of adjustments with
a sliding scale thingy
for amount.  

It is one of the annoyances of tecno-babble that something
as simple as adjusting the
hues and tones needs a non-painterly word such as "curves"  

I look at the images and fiddle with brightness, saturation,
hue, color, etc and slide
the levers around until I see what I want sometimes
applying into an area I've lassoed
or hit with my "magic wand", sometimes to the entire image. 

I don't mean I do it to every image when "all the time" but
I use all these tools -
The name "curves" just doesn't mean anything to me.  Or
channels.  

The word 'CURVE' doesn't appear anywhere on my screen when
I'm working in elements.

thanks for that direct explanation, Jack :)

ann

> 
> 
> --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Jack Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > Good for you, Ann! Have a Pen 4 Dimension 8400 3G that am happy
> > with.
> > > Prior to going cable, the modem went out.
> > > Took about 20 minutes of listening to elevator music, (probably a
> > > common experience regardless of brand) but there was a Dell service
> > > person with a new modem at my door the next day.
> > > Just downloaded Elements 5 to it a couple days ago. Nice crisp
> > upgrade
> > > including "curves".
> > >
> > > Jack
> >
> > I think I really have to ask someone to define "CURVES"
> > this is a buzz word of
> > the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :)
> >
> > ann
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sigh -
> > > >
> > > > this is what I'm getting
> > > > Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB
> > > > DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz
> > > >
> > > > It should be here by Oct 5th.
> > > > Comments on this machine?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My young friend is coming over today to help me with the
> > > > failed usb port situation
> > > > on the old puter...
> > > >
> > > > ann
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AA Lithiums

[William Robb]

So after whining yesterday, I was wandering through Home Depot today and 
noticed that they had a couple of 4 packs of them on their battery rack.

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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[John Francis]

On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 04:29:41PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> K.Takeshita wrote:
> 
> >Sounds way too complicated to me.
> >Buy a Mac, plug it and play it away! :-).
> 
> Windows is pretty much the same way these days if you buy from a
> company that doesn't include "free extras" like Dell. I guess even
> Dell works well for most people, judging by their success, but I
> really prefer to build my own machine so I can choose my own
> components and configure everything just the way I want it.
> Not the path for non-geeks, I suppose :)

The previous two computers I owned were built that way; find a
good motherboard, fit your own choice of CPU, memory, etc., and
add peripherals to taste.  My last purchase was a built-to-order
HP system; with their promotional pricing it was cheaper than
doing it myself, and had everything I wanted.
Nowadays I'd either go the same route or buy a secondhand box;
a friend of mine can find truly excellent deals (such as his
latest accquisition; 14 1U IBM eServers, each with 1GB of RAM,
built-in SCSI, and with processors ranging from 1GHz P3s to
dual Xeons, at an average price of $100 per system).

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RE: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Bob W]

any smoother, Bill, and you'd be French.

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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ann Sanfedele"
> Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL
> 
> 
> >
> > I think I really have to ask someone to define "CURVES"
> > this is a buzz word of
> > the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :)
> 
> I've seen pictures of you (albeit from a few years ago), you 
> know what 
> curves are.
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele"
Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL


>
> I think I really have to ask someone to define "CURVES"
> this is a buzz word of
> the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :)

I've seen pictures of you (albeit from a few years ago), you know what 
curves are.
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Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

[graywolf]

Too small for contacts (now I happen to like 5x7 prints myself, but I am 
talking about he great unwashed masses here), to big for most enlargers. 
There are a few dedicated folks who swear by 5x7 around however. I have 
always wanted a 5x7 Speed Graphic, but that is more because of the nifty 
leaning photos you can shoot with it than the size of the negative.

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William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "graywolf"
> Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec
> 
> 
>> The ideal format for landscapes is at least 20x24. However most
>> landscape photographers are wimps, and refuse to backpack one of them
>> about. 
> 
> I would like to get an 11x14, since this is the size of print I tend to 
> make most of the time.
> I always wondered why 5x7 floundered, at it was almost twice the area of 
> 4x5 with a not tremendous increase in camera size, and a better aspect 
> ratio as well.
> Gaak, all this talk of sheet film makes me feel the need to shoot some 
> film and to clean up my darkroom enough to print it.
> 
> William Robb 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Interview w/Pentax exec

[graywolf]

They are certainly in the Boone store.

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William Robb wrote:
> - Original Message - 
> From: "P. J. Alling"
> Subject: Re: Interview w/Pentax exec
> 
> 
>> Two, (or maybe one), words:  Wal-Mart.
> 
> I worked there for quite a while, I never saw them in stock. This is not 
> to say they aren't in the Calgary stores, or Toronto, or even Prince 
> Albert.
> 
> William Robb
> 
> 
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[graywolf]

Should be on the HD, Bill. You need to burn a copy ASAP. It becomes a 
nightmare if you have crash and have not done so. Most of those guys act 
like a hard copy is made of gold. The troubles my friend had with a 
couple of Sonys was unbelievable.

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Bill Owens wrote:
> How can you do a clean install w/o an OS CD
> 
> Bill
> 
>> Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive
>> immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from
>> scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything
>> you want.
> 
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> l.ne
> 
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Re: K10D histogram

[J and K Messervy]

>From what I've read, the K10D does both.
- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: K10D histogram


> cbwaters wrote:
>> It occurs to me that I don't recall reading weather the K10D (or 100/110D
>> for that matter) has the ability to overlay the histogram on top of the
>> instant review image.  What about highlight/shadow indicators?
>> I know those were things some of us would have liked in the *ist D.  Did 
>> it
>> eventually trickle down?
>>
>> Cory
>
> The K100D can overlay the histogram over the instant review image, and
> highlight blinkies too. No shadow blinkies though.
>
> -Adam
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Re: OT: CPU question

[Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)]

For Photo usage, I'd say buy RAM first.

Then, if you still have some money to spend on it, buy more RAM again.

Finally, think about getting a new CPU.

I've a 1.5 GB machine with an AMD Athlon XP 64, and yes, PS goes faster 
than on most P4s I've seen with 1 GB or less.

Patrice

cbwaters a écrit :
> Ok, I know... Get a mac... I get it.  just can't right now.
>
> My PC is a P4 1.7 (don't know the FSB speed) and I've got 504MB of DDR DIMM 
> RAM (not sure of the speed there either)
>
> Without switching motherboards, I can move up to around P4 3.0 with an 
> 800Mhz FSB and hyper-threading for about $85.
>
> How would one describe the improvement is speed here?  1-10 with ten being 
> "waoh, that's the best $85 I ever spent!"
>
> I could, of course, also get more memory.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> CW
>
>
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Re: Street photography - religious objections (now Socialists)

[keith_w]

frank theriault wrote:

[...]

> However, in urban areas -  which are overloaded with cars, and have
> much less green space to cleanse the air - nature is simply
> overwhelmed, and pollution happens.  It sort of reaches a "critical
> mass", and then not much can be done about it.
> 
> Does that make sense? (I fear I'm not being very articulate or coherent...)
> 
> cheers,
> frank

No doubt in my mind that you're right about that!

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Re: K10D vs D80

[Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail)]

Hi,

There are a couple 3rd party options comparable in functionality to 
Nikon's 18-135, although probably not in par in terms of quality, and 
definitely not supersonic driven:

Sigma 18-125 F3.5-5.6 DC
Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC
Tamron 18-200 F3.5-6.3 XR Di II

I know nothing about the image quality of the Tamron.

I own the Tokina 18-125 and I'm quite happy with it. Very convenient, 
and gives surprisingly good results given the price. Again, it is 
probably not as sharp as the Nikon, but the prices can't be compared 
neither.

I can provide sample shots (with *ist DS) if needed.

C'mon Pentax, please crank out some all-purpose wide-range hyperzoom 
18-100+ with that supersonic drive thing!

Patrice

Juan Buhler a écrit :
> A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his
> main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D.
>
> Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs
> are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says
> that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry
> any extra lenses (!).
>
> I told him the kit DA18-55 is very good, but that I don't think Pentax
> has anything equivalent to Nikon's 18-135. Is that so?  Anything else
> I should tell him?
>
> j
>
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Jack Davis]

Using XP Home. Sooo much more stable and usable than was ME.

Jack

--- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> >Understand there is a new Windows "Vista" operating system either
> has
> >been or soon will be available.
> >This information from my wife who reads Kim Commando every morning.
> >I might be more curious about it myself if I were setting up a new
> >system.
> 
> Vista is coming early next year (they say). Don't know if I'm
> interested in it at this point. Supposedly they're going all
> "Mac"-ish
> (meaning it's really, really pretty looking). 
> 
> I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about
> XP
> and I've found Win2k very reliable.
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>That's probably what makes them go wrong. People mess around without
>knowing what they're doing, then blame the manufacturer.

Very true. And not just about computers :)
 
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Re: OT - Freelance Life, Here I Come

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>There are benefits to the independent contractor as well.  It's not a
>one-sided proposition.  A number of friends have been independent
>contractors with major corporations.  One just recently accepted regular
>employment, and while we didn't discuss her situation in detail, she made
>it clear that there were some downsides to her new position.  She has to
>work more regular hours; her take-home pay is less; she has to work
>assignments that she doesn't care for ...sure, she gets medical benefits,
>but she was easily able to pay for that from her IC income, and had a wider
>choice of doctors to choose from with her own plan.  Now she's tied in to
>her company's plan.  After carefully weighing the options, she decided to
>become an employee.  That works for her.
>
>Another friend is, and has been, an IC for another major corp.  He prefers
>to stay an IC even though he's been offered regular employment.  It's
>interesting to note that his wife works at the same company, and when she
>was offered the opportunity to be an employee, she took it.  The benefits
>to her outweighed the downside that her husband saw.
>
>It's not so simple.
>
>At one point I had 32 IC's working for my company.  None - not a single one
>- wanted to be a regular employee, all of them much preferring the
>advantages they saw in remaining independent.
>  
>

Couldn't resist having operated on both sides (currenlty on the IC 
bench): Maybe they just saw the deficiencies in what your company had to 
offer.  Fact is, Congress sets the advantage on many  for the "employed" 
and the employer.  Although the IC may preceive ssignificant advantages, 
the IC must be very careful to manage  to advantage if that person is  
to end up  even or better at the end of the day.  My experience is that 
a large number do not and are, in real terms, sometimes significantly 
disadvantaged as the sun sets.  Just my experience.

>And while it's true that there are benefits that accrue to the company in
>having independent contractors, there are also benefits to having those
>people as employees as well.  It all depends on the situation, what's most
>important to the parties involved, and individual values.
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>  
>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: Bob Shell 
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>What is the advantage of being an independent
>>contractor instead of an employee?
>>
>>
>
>  
>
>>None.  The benefits are all to the "employer".  All the years I  
>>worked for Shutterbug magazine they classed me as an independent  
>>contractor.  That means they didn't have to pay into unemployment or  
>>deal with payroll taxes, include me on company medical insurance, and  
>>so on.  It also means that when I "voluntarily" retired, there was no  
>>pension.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>  
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RE: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Bob W]

That's probably what makes them go wrong. People mess around without
knowing what they're doing, then blame the manufacturer.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of mike wilson
> Sent: 29 September 2006 22:03
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> Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL
> 
> Bob W wrote:
> 
> > Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I
asked
> > for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it.
> > 
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >  Bob 
> 
> Latest models apparently have anti-tamper hardware.  You 
> aren't allowed 
> to go inside if you want to retain warranty.
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Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL

[Mark Roberts]

Juan Buhler wrote:

>On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Vista is coming early next year (they say). Don't know if I'm
>> interested in it at this point. Supposedly they're going all "Mac"-ish
>> (meaning it's really, really pretty looking).
>
>Uh, that's the problem MS has. They think the main difference with OSX
>is that OSX is 'pretty'.
>
>OSX is not clownish looking as Windows, granted. But its main
>advantage is usability, not looks.

Personally, I fine no overall usability difference between the two,
and I use both frequently. And I though I do computer tutoring for
both platforms, I get equal calls for help across both platforms. Just
got a phone call an hour ago from a Mac user who's had something stop
working on her system that she needs me to fix this weekend.

 
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