RE: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
yes. That's where I developed a taste for Bordeaux. It was rather like the scene in Brideshead Revisited where Charles and Sebastian raid the cellar to learn about wine. In my case though it was developed in a cave next to the launderette where I used to take my washing. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonz Sent: 26 January 2007 03:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans Did you drink any (Bordeaux?) was relatively cheap then, pricey now. rg On 1/25/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard to believe that was 30 years ago and I was still a student. That was a very hot summer in Yurp and I worked as a labourer on a building site in Bordeaux. Seems like yesterday. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 25 January 2007 19:13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans I found this in a condominium that I am helping renovate http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/nytimes/nytimes.html Anyway, It's up for grabs, providing it is going to a good home. So, interested parties can email me offlist, telling me why they think they should get it, in 200 words or less. As a goodwill gesture, I will send it to the winner, absolutely free. I suppose it's possible that every home in the USA has one, in which case it will heat my shed for an afternoon. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: advice for re-use of images
Thanks very much for the replies. It seems that some smallish charge might be warranted. I think we try to negotiate over the phone - it's nice to get the exposure in the encyclopedia and don't want to jeopardise this by pricing ourselves too highly. I guess they may be paying other photographers for their images and perhaps can sound them out on this. Ann the bug was quite noxious - Remotesiteus unavailablicus (quite common I believe) but temporarily at least eradicated now Thanks also for the nice complements about our site Alastair On 1/25/07, Alastair Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All some advice would be appreciated - my wife and I run a website on soil invertebrates http://soilbugs.massey.ac.nz that we developed from a grant from a government agency my wife got. It is a freely available website which contains a lot of images of animals. We retain the copyright to these images. Recently we were approached by the Museum of New Zealand who is putting together an online encyclopedia that will take several years to build. They are currently working on a natural history section and want to re-use some of our images for their encyclopedia. At first it was just one or two images which we sent free with just a promise of acknowledgement of source etc. They offered to pay costs but it didn't seem worth it for just one or two images. However, now they want quite a few more as they move on to new parts of the encyclopedia. We are now wondering whether we ought to charge for the use of these images. Part of me thinks we should just keep agreeing to give them away as it is for a good cause, but another part says I should be recouping some costs for future enablement. What do you think? Should we charge and if so how much? The images will be low-res web-only images and we will still own the copyright to them. Any suggestions welcome Alastair PS the front page to our website is running slow at the moment - there is a small bug in the counter which we keep forgetting to fix. If you want to skip this page and go the image gallery you can try this link http://soilbugs.massey.ac.nz/gallery.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mac Surprise
On 25.01.2007, at 23:19 , Peter Lacus wrote: Strangely enough, Preview on one of our iMacs I've tried (Core Duo/10.4.8) can't display .PEFs from my istDs. So is it limited just to istD? No it is not. The latest Digital Camera RAW Support in Mac OSX supports *istD, Dl and Ds. You can download Intel update directly from here: http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/ Aperture/061-2904.20061113.pMu8T/DigitalCameraRAWUniv200601.dmg Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Pentax FA28/2.8 AL vs FA35/2 AL lenses: how do they compare?
A useful standard lens therefore on DSLR. Why did Pentax choose to discontinue this one? I have been looking for this lens for some time now and regret not having bought it for my MZ-S at the time. I treasure my FA 35/2 meanwhile. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 26 January, 2007 2:17 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax FA28/2.8 AL vs FA35/2 AL lenses: how do they compare? ... The FA28/2.8 is just fine, and a better match to the DSLR bodies. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Godfrey, LOL ... My personal predilections come into play. I'd much rather write straightforward C code than any kind of Java or C++ ... mostly because I'm much more familiar with it and it has always proved to be far more portable and easier to compile and link on any system if I was rigorous about not using compiler/linker specific language extension features. For similar reasons, the step to Objective-C is much easier for me than shifting to Java or C++. Objective-C is just a small, tidy set of extensions to the basic C language that allows for nicely encapsulated object oriented design. Forgive this digression into my dark, geeky past ... ;-) You're hereby granted an indulgence (whatever was given to people so that they can sin in the dark days of inquisition) to write as many plain C lines as you want. Indeed, a masterful C programmer is a rarity these days. I like C++ 'cause I know how to drive this car, mostly, but your point of view is very interesting and valid. My first professional work was done in plain C. I don't remember having any difficulties in expressing myself as compared to modern C++. Nor do I have any difficulties now though. Well, you're older than me, aren't you? ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Robert, there is a program called Wega. It is a viewer actually. As for statistics and the other stuff you suggested - it does more or less just that. I accept your opinion about software engineering here. My proposal about Java was directed more or less towards the same goal. Boris Gonz wrote: You didnt specify what level of effort you are talking about. 3 man months, 6 man months, a man year? Also the expectations. Is this a single course project, Bachelor's thesis, Masters? With all due respect to others who have gotten into a discussion of the merits of portability, language features, etc. I would not even worry right now about these aspects. Assuming a Bachelor's thesis, 3 man month level of effort, I would just go with the language that gets you from A to Z the quickest. If you are thinking commercialization later on, re-write it in the appropriate language (probably C++). If you are thinking that it would be useful to you and to others, then the quickie language is still the best. As to suggestions, the EXIF database sounds like a very decent suggestion. I.e. show me thumbs of all the pics I have taken with my FA85 1.4. That would be cool. Or gather statistics. What is the distribution of pics I took at each ISO (this was a recent discussion on this mail list). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Thibouille, I have a proposal but indeed it requires an approval of another club member. Perhaps you could pair with John Francis and come up with nice GUI and may be handful of extensions for his program that analyzes Pentax RAW file headers. Ultimately, this could becomes an open source project where all of us could invest a bit of their effort. But I do realize this is just a crazy idea and of course John is the one who should be asked for permission. Cheers... Boris Thibouille wrote: I will repsond to a couple points.. * It is indeed academic: it is a final evaluation of a bachelor which means 3 years studies (precision because those things tends to change quite much from country to country). * The usual software student do provide (because in line with the school program so quite logical) is always a management of this or that like CD/DVD collection, DVD renting management, hotel personel/room management and whatever you can think of those kind of blabla renting... Quite boring to say the least. Even teachers are fed up ;) * At first I planned to do a computer asset management. Boring but useful for my work. I'm teacher but part of my schedule is dedicated to hardware/software management for the whole school (4 rooms with about 20 computers / room). * A couple days ago I thought I was more interested into photography and I'd be more motivated creating such a software. * Concerning the time I have: I need to give a draft (a little presentation so bascaly just to tell them what I intend to produce) by monday. The final software should be given to them with usual ton of papers ;) early november 2007 and public defense should be around december 2007. Time I have but I'm working full time as well at the same time. Hope it gives a beter idea of the circumstances... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PAW 2007 - 4 - GDG
On 25/1/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: A chill, damp morning on the Isle of Man, photographing the ruined farm at Montpelier ... This particular view is the only one I'm doing as a color photo (and there will be a BW rendering too). http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/04.htm Comments, critique, and a toss of kippers all appreciated. No kippers. I like. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Snowblind
On 25/1/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Skiing last Saturday at Bogus Basin, it was snowy up top. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5503907 Intresting! I like it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Printer or Software?
I have 10.4.7 on my laptop. Both it and my 10.3.9 machine are very stable. I would have purchased 10.4 for my desktop machine, but I haven't seen any distinct advantage. I don't use the dashboard features very often, and if it's faster, I can't tell because the two machines are different. Won't 10.5 be for Intel based machines? Paul On Jan 26, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Good to hear you've got that sorted out finally. I figured it had to be something in the Print w Preview configuration. It's been a very long time since I worked with PS CS, and I didn't have the R2400 then. Sheesh ... Mac OS X v10.5 is due for release very soon. Wait for that upgrade now. I worked on a client's 10.3.9 system just last week and was very happy to get back my system and 10.4 G On Jan 25, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: You're right, Godders. My problems are over. I gave in and read the manual for the R2400. I had glanced at it previously but tossed it after reading the first few chapters, which basically described printing for the brain dead. Tonight I discovered they had a chapter for printing with ICC profiles and, as luck would have it, the examples were for PSCS 1. Turns out I must have flipped a switch in my Print With Preview box. Where I had selected Same as Source, I should have selected the printer and its ICC profile. Now all is well with the world. I'm not going to have to devote my weekend to uninstalling and reinstalling software. Woo hoo!! Paul PS: I do have auto download set. Never caused a problem. But I'm behind in allowing it to install the latest protection files. I'm still 10.3.9, so I no longer get system upgrades. But it functions as well as 10.4 does on my work computer. However, if I had installed PSCS2 and 10.4, Godders could have solved my problem immediately. There's something to be said in favor of keeping up with Mr. G :-). On Jan 25, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm not entirely sure I understand what problem Paul is running into. He's running Mac OS X (btw, I have had Apple's Software Update set up to auto download since it was released and I have never yet received an update that caused a printer problem of any kind ... if anything, they've all helped!) ... I've not yet needed to purge and reinstall anything on Mac OS X, and I've been running with it since before it was available to the general public (I worked at Apple ...). G On Jan 25, 2007, at 4:10 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, purge and reinstall seems to be the only way to solve this. Thanks. You don't by chance have your OS set up to automatically download and install updates from Apple or Microsoft or whoever, do you? I've had automatically installed driver updates cause problems along the lines of what you're seeing. PS: Will marijuana leaves serve in place of incense:-) Only if the cops aren't around. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
has anyone here been to Iceland?
Nate and I are planning our next trip, to Iceland. We will probably go in August. I've been reading and I know there are endless photographic opportunities there, but I was wondering if you guys know about anything in particular that I shouldn't miss. We are tentatively planning to do the southern coast and Lake Myvatn region, though I'm not sure if Lake Myvatn will work out. Thanks, Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: advice for re-use of images
I usually allow free usage for non-profit organizations (assuming I agree with their cause.) I figure I also volunteer my time to local ones and make monetary donations, so why not donate photos. My philosophy is that if they are making money off the shot I should get a cut, but if it is just for a cause I support, it's a donation. - MCC Alastair Robertson wrote: Hi All some advice would be appreciated - my wife and I run a website on soil invertebrates http://soilbugs.massey.ac.nz that we developed from a grant from a government agency my wife got. It is a freely available website which contains a lot of images of animals. We retain the copyright to these images. Recently we were approached by the Museum of New Zealand who is putting together an online encyclopedia that will take several years to build. They are currently working on a natural history section and want to re-use some of our images for their encyclopedia. At first it was just one or two images which we sent free with just a promise of acknowledgement of source etc. They offered to pay costs but it didn't seem worth it for just one or two images. However, now they want quite a few more as they move on to new parts of the encyclopedia. We are now wondering whether we ought to charge for the use of these images. Part of me thinks we should just keep agreeing to give them away as it is for a good cause, but another part says I should be recouping some costs for future enablement. What do you think? Should we charge and if so how much? The images will be low-res web-only images and we will still own the copyright to them. Any suggestions welcome Alastair PS the front page to our website is running slow at the moment - there is a small bug in the counter which we keep forgetting to fix. If you want to skip this page and go the image gallery you can try this link http://soilbugs.massey.ac.nz/gallery.php -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, Michigan www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: about NiMH batteries
The are essentially a little battery but they utilize classic electrolytic capacior chemistry however due to their extremely dense charge/volume they have exceedingly high internal resistance. I don't know that it's fair to call them a battery. A battery has a nonlinear current/voltage relationship as energy is stored in the chemistry. An ultracap is still just a capacitor, albeit a very large one. Charge goes in, voltage goes up as per I=C dv/dt. Relative to energy storage capacity. yes, they are probably closer to a battery than a normal capacitor. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)
I dont understand what you are saying. Of course they Apparently. are not dead at 1.1 volts under load, what I said is any nimh battery is nearly gone ( almost dead as a percentage of the total capacity it gives or gave ) once Capacity in terms of what? Energy or mAH... they're not the same thing. Check a book on physics... one is Joules, the other is Coulombs the amount of charge a cell can provide says nothing about how much work it can do until you know the voltage it provides it at. you go below 1.2 vdc on the cell regardless of load. If you are getting another 0.1 volt drop on these cells with a .350A load, the total additional series R is only about 0.3 ohms which is still quite low for a AA cell if that is what we are talking about here. In any case, I dont think most AA cells will give you the full maH rating under a 0.35 amp load, its just too much and I believe the maH ratings are done with a much smaller drain current to be fair to the battery makers. And your last statement is only true under high load conditions because the internal resistance is a much lower loss factor under normal or low load conditions. And what your seeing as higher internal impedance is not fixed, it varies as the cell discharges. Your not saying you only get 1.1 VDC output on these cells at the start of the 0.35A discharge cycle are you? jco skipping confusing drivel... Cell capacity is defined in terms of the C-rate. That's the amount of current they can provide for 1-hour. Actually, as you say, the test is typically done at the C/10 rate... in other words the C rate is 10x the current the battery can provide for 10 hours. Some battery constructions (even with the same fundamental chemistry like e.g. NiMH) can provide significantly different output voltages under the same loads. If the voltage-current (i.e. power) integrated over time (i.e. energy) is lower, the energy output is lower. Batteries are NOT rated in terms of energy mAH has nothing to do with energy until a voltage is defined. Now, if you cannot wrap your argumentative self around these things, please either keep it to yourself or be willing to be educated. -Cory -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have appox the same internal resistance and its very low compared to Nicad for example. specifically what kind of load are you draining them at and what is the output voltage of the cells under that load? Once a nimh drops below the rated voltage of 1.2 VDC the charge is nearly gone regardless of load... jco I'm using a LaCrosse BC-900 charger. It will cycle individual cells under a constant current charger or discharge, while integrating the total charge/discharge mAH capacity. As such, it's a constant current charge/load... not a constant resistance. The cells I'm referring to are Powerex 2150 mAH (IIRC), and I did the cycle at 700mA charge, 350mA discharge That's roughly C/8 discharge rate, and I obtained approx 2000mAH before dipping below 1.1V. On these cells, they're not dead at that rate until they get between 1.0 and 1.1V... on the Energizer cells it's much closer to the 1.2V you specifiy. Bottom line: Cheap cells illustrate a higher internal impedance than higher quality cells... even at the same mAH rating. That means they don't last as long before the camera thinks they're dead. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
Having had the MX and F3HP at the same time(up until a few months ago), I always picked up the F3. Better viewfinder, didn't have to drive my face into the camera to see the full frame. And I don't wear glasses. High magnification is useless without enough eye relief to see the frame. I do slightly prefer the finder on the plain F3 personally, but I picked the HP because most people consider it to be the best finder on 35mm SLR's. The M3 is overrated IMHO. The Bessa R2a/R2m is superior, as is a good SLR finder. I like a good rangefinder finder, and appreciate the advantages with slow glass (Finder doesn't get dimmer with slower lenses) but with fast glass, I'll take the SLR, especially if I have to shoot wide open, since I don't have to focus recompose. But this is an area where I know my opinion and that of most people differs. -Adam graywolf wrote: No, the F3hp has an lousy viewfinder compared to the F3, only you did not have to drive the eyepiece into you eye to see the whole screen. Decreasing the magnification gave more eye-relief and was a godsend to anyone who wore glasses, it was worse in every other way. I certainly preferred my MX's viewfinder to the F3hp's. The best viewfinder on any camera I have ever used was the old Leica M3, my Mamiya Universal Press's viewfinder was almost as good. Of course, they were not SLR's. Maybe Rob can tell us how the Mamiya 7's compares, it is supposed to be rather good. -graywolf Adam Maas wrote: I'm comparing them to two models which are considered to have among the best finders ever put in a 35mm SLR. The F3HP finder is generally considered the best 35mm finder ever (Matched only by the Leica R8/9) and the F100 has one of the best finders of an AF SLR (Outdone only by the F5 and EOS 1v). -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: HUH? I looked thru an istD finder and was shocked how small (tunnel vision ) the image looked compared to ANY of my Pentax (full frame) 35mm film bodies. Why are you comparing them to some of the worst slr finders in this regard that arent even pentax made models? I agree with graywolf that they have a long way to go if they ( pentax dslrs ) are all similar to the istD at this point and the goal is to better match the pentax 35mm film bodies views. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: manually focusing a DSLR Actually, they don't need a 1.5x magnificationto match the 35mm finders (except maybe an MX or OM) as they already run much higher magnifications on most DSLR's than 35mm film(Digital Rebels and pentamirror Nikons excepted). To match my F3 (0.75x magnification) a DSLR would need 1.125x magnification to match the magnification of the F3 (0.75 x 1.5). If you put a DK-21M on the DSLR (1.17x magnification) you'd need a .96x magnification finder (1.125/1.17) which is damned close to the .95x on the K10D. I've compared the F100 (96%, 0.76x [x1.5x=1.14]) to a D200+DK-21M (0.95%, 0.94x x 1.17x = 1.0998x) and they're nearly indistinguishable. -Adam graywolf wrote: And these cameras really need 1.5x viewfinder magnification to match a similar 35mm. I suppose the eyepiece is too far from the ground glass to do that economically. Adam Maas wrote: Note the 10D/20D/30D finder is smaller than the *istD or K10D (it's the same coverage, but only .9x magnification instead of the .95x of the Pentax's) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
I've got a -DS (pentaprism) that I used for about 9 months with a variety of manual-focus lenses as-is. It was OK, but definately could be challenging to get the focus right. Since I've installed a split-prism focus screen, I haven't had anymore troubles. Cory, Which split-prism focusing screen did you install. I've had some out of focus shots, especially with my A50/1.4 and want to look at changing the focusing screen. Thanks, Mark Umm... I couldn't stomach giving Katz Eye that much money for a $1 piece of plastic (even though they *had* just started producing them for the Pentax). I ended up buying a screen from the local used camera/repair shop... I think it came out of a Minolta 7 something? Anyway, it was $5, and withing 45 minutes of filing and griding the screen down to size, it fit into the DS fine. Biggest drawback to it (in addition to the blackout phenomenon with lenses slower than f/5.6) is the stop-down metering. I use mostly old M42/K/M lenses. With the castrated mount in the -DS and the stop-down metering it requires with these lenses, the blacking out above f/8 or so can mess with the metering. Not a huge deal, but it basically means that I need to check the histogram after the shot and verify it was properly exposed. The smaller the aperture, the worse it can be. Still... it's worth it to me to be able to nail the critical focus when necessary (like portrature with my K-50/1.4, Jupiter-9 85/2.0, or Super-Tak 135/2.5) I cannot believe that nobody else has been providing these screens. ESPECIALLY with the cheapie CaNikons with the extra-crappy viewfinders. With AF lenses, they don't affect operation at all (as long as they're 5.6 or faster). It's only with slower lenses (whether actual lens speed or due to stop-down metering) that it can cause some metering issues. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: has anyone here been to Iceland?
Amita wrote: Nate and I are planning our next trip, to Iceland. We will probably go in August. I've been reading and I know there are endless photographic opportunities there, but I was wondering if you guys know about anything in particular that I shouldn't miss. We are tentatively planning to do the southern coast and Lake Myvatn region, though I'm not sure if Lake Myvatn will work out. REPLY: I've lived in Iceland for two years. The southern part is a good choice; particularly the area from Vatnajøkull to the Snefellsnes peninsula. Myvatn is great for photographing ducks. I guess you are going to hire a car. The main road is very good except for a part in the nordeast where it is only dirt road. Minor roads may just be tracks and you might need four wheel drive. Some rivers don't have bridges so you have to drive through them. The Rekjanes peninsula near the airport at Keflavik is quite scenic and theres a seabird colony near Krisuvik worth visiting. The area around Myrdalsjøkul is very scenic with some spectacular waterfalls. At Vik, the southernmost part of Iceland have some scenic locations and a puffin colony. Otherwise there are those obvious destinations like Geysir and Gullfoss waterfall. If you are interested in shooting puffins the Latrabjarg birdcliff is hard to beat. This is the westernmost part of Iceland and it is hard to reach. The roads are awful but you can drive to the birdcliff. The puffins there are basically tame. If you go by car remember to stock up with gas before driving into the wilderness. There are less than 300 000 people in Iceland, a country the size of Ireland. Half of them live in Reykjavik. The weather is basically awful with wind and rain. However, if it is bad in the southern part of the island it probably much better in the north and vice versa. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
I have a Canon 10D, and a M42 adapter, if you want to shoot with it for a day. Get in touch, and we can set something up. The 10D was the last Canon DSLR with a full size mirror. Starting with the 20D the Digital Rebel cameras, they introduced the Canon EF-S lens mount. They made the mirror a little smaller, so they could project the rear lens element deeper into the camera body. You should care, because you can mount a K-Mount lens on the camera with an adapter. (the aperture lever on a K mount lens interferes with a full- sized mirror) (search e-Bay for Pentax K Lens to Canon EOS) Canon disables focus confirmation on non-EOS lenses. But you can glue a chip to the adapter to fool the camera into thinking it is a Canon lens. The advantage- focus confirmation works. (Search e-Bay for EOS auto-focus module) IMO, a perfect example of Canon just plain being evil. I never realized how much I subconsciously used the focus confirmation on my MF lenses with my -DS until I tried using some on my friend's RebelXT. Between the bad viewfinder and lack of focus confirmation, it's extremely difficult to focus MF lenses. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Eneloop batteries on DS or Flash?
Anyone using Eneloop batteries in their cameras or flash? Just wondering how they perform. Dell.ca has a good one-day deal on them today. dk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
Cory Papenfuss wrote: I have a Canon 10D, and a M42 adapter, if you want to shoot with it for a day. Get in touch, and we can set something up. The 10D was the last Canon DSLR with a full size mirror. Starting with the 20D the Digital Rebel cameras, they introduced the Canon EF-S lens mount. They made the mirror a little smaller, so they could project the rear lens element deeper into the camera body. You should care, because you can mount a K-Mount lens on the camera with an adapter. (the aperture lever on a K mount lens interferes with a full- sized mirror) (search e-Bay for Pentax K Lens to Canon EOS) Canon disables focus confirmation on non-EOS lenses. But you can glue a chip to the adapter to fool the camera into thinking it is a Canon lens. The advantage- focus confirmation works. (Search e-Bay for EOS auto-focus module) IMO, a perfect example of Canon just plain being evil. I never realized how much I subconsciously used the focus confirmation on my MF lenses with my -DS until I tried using some on my friend's RebelXT. Between the bad viewfinder and lack of focus confirmation, it's extremely difficult to focus MF lenses. -Cory Actually it's merely an example of how the Canon AF system works. A fair bit of the AF processing in the Canon's is in the lens, so without a lens chip, no AF as you don't have the full AF system present, this is why issues will come up with Canon with some lenses having improved AF algorithms. Pentax and Nikon do everything in-camera and rely on the lens only for data (max aperture, focal length and focused distance[the last if available]) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: ... Well, you're older than me, aren't you? ;-) Based on the self portrait you posted recently, yes. By a bit... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Snowblind
On 25/1/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: Skiing last Saturday at Bogus Basin, it was snowy up top. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5503907 Very nice, Tom! I like the high key treatment, nicely seen. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: P-TTL Wireless?
No, Tom, it simply overrides them with a different and more serious problem; the YUCK factor. :-DDD Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found that Velvia solves most flash problems. :- Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: P-TTL Wireless? Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:45:05 -0800 (PST) Access forbidden Error 403 Thanks, Godfrey, but I really don't believe I'll have further need for it. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 25, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I can now say the same with the 360. Takes concentration when setting it up to be certain you've tried all control combinations. I was successful, largely, due to help from Brenden MacRae. I wonder why directions didn't accompany the firmware. Well, the first section in this document, which is available via a link from the firmware download page ... http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/scms_docs/fw_files/k10d_fw/ K10D_110_Functions.pdf ... talks about setting up the K10D for Wireless Flash control. The rest of the instructions are supposedly in the flash unit instruction manual. I don't own a Pentax flash ... yet. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)
On Jan 25, 2007, at 19:09, Paul Stenquist wrote: I can't see using NIMH in my D, but I do use them in my flash. The D sits too long. I'd be charging the batteries every time I used it. One word - I've said it before and I'll say it again: Eneloop! -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Printer or Software?
On Jan 26, 2007, at 2:34 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I have 10.4.7 on my laptop. Both it and my 10.3.9 machine are very stable. I would have purchased 10.4 for my desktop machine, but I haven't seen any distinct advantage. I don't use the dashboard features very often, and if it's faster, I can't tell because the two machines are different. Won't 10.5 be for Intel based machines? Yes, 10.4 has many speed optimizations over 10.3 and there are quite a few other improvements. Can't remember which software packages I installed recently but a couple of them are now requiring 10.4.2 as a baseline for some of the infrastructure that was added then. (BTW, You should update the 10.4.7 machine to 10.4.8.) 10.5 will be released for both PowerPC and Intel. Of course, the performance gap between top of the line PowerPC and Intel systems is continuing to grow as the Intel binaries are optimized further and further. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
On Jan 26, 2007, at 7:38, Cory Papenfuss wrote: I cannot believe that nobody else has been providing these screens. ESPECIALLY with the cheapie CaNikons with the extra-crappy viewfinders. With AF lenses, they don't affect operation at all (as long as they're 5.6 or faster). It's only with slower lenses (whether actual lens speed or due to stop-down metering) that it can cause some metering issues. I think one thing that slows down the market for replacement screens on the Canons is (did I read this correctly a few months ago?) when you replace the focus screen, it disables the little red focus- confirmation dots on the screen. That's a distinct drawback for some people - unlike with the Pentax where everything pretty much remains the same (but better) when replacing the screen. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
IMO, a perfect example of Canon just plain being evil. I never realized how much I subconsciously used the focus confirmation on my MF lenses with my -DS until I tried using some on my friend's RebelXT. Between the bad viewfinder and lack of focus confirmation, it's extremely difficult to focus MF lenses. -Cory Actually it's merely an example of how the Canon AF system works. A fair bit of the AF processing in the Canon's is in the lens, so without a lens chip, no AF as you don't have the full AF system present, this is why issues will come up with Canon with some lenses having improved AF algorithms. Pentax and Nikon do everything in-camera and rely on the lens only for data (max aperture, focal length and focused distance[the last if available]) -Adam Really? Well honk my hooter... I wasn't aware of that. I can see how the body needs to know some things for AF, but it seems weird to actually put *processing* in the lens. A camera body has as many or more AF variables in it than the lens does (number of AF sensors, matrix metering algorithms, etc). Seems like there should be a fall-back. Oh well... if that's true then I stand informed. Not necessarily corrected since Canon is still evil... :) -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)
On Jan 26, 2007, at 6:33 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: One word - I've said it before and I'll say it again: Eneloop! I have three sets of AA NiMH rechargables, two Power2000 and one 'no name brand, and now that I'm standardizing more and more on the K10D body I doubt I need many more for just the flash unit. These are doing ok for me so far, but I'll buy Sanyo Eneloops if I find I need more for flash. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Eneloop batteries on DS or Flash?
On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:05, Dave Kennedy wrote: Anyone using Eneloop batteries in their cameras or flash? Just wondering how they perform. Dell.ca has a good one-day deal on them today. I've been running them in my DS since mid November. It's a delight to just pick up the DS and use it (especially after letting it sit for a week - poor camera!) without having to think about whether or not there is a charge left in there. I just picked up another set to put into my Sunpak flash. Soon I'll get a 3rd set for my Sigma Flash and I'll be quite satisfied. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
On Jan 26, 2007, at 5:37 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Having had the MX and F3HP at the same time(up until a few months ago), I always picked up the F3. Better viewfinder, didn't have to drive my face into the camera to see the full frame. And I don't wear glasses. High magnification is useless without enough eye relief to see the frame. I agree. The only SLR viewfinder that surpassed the F3/T for my vision is the one in the Leica R8, and the F3 viewfinder is 100% coverage where the R8 is not. The MX viewfinder reminded me of the Olympus OM-1n, which I liked as a camera but was just a little too uncomfortable for me to look through. The Nikon FM/FM2/FE2 were somewhere in between the two and a more comfortable fit for my use. (I looked, wanted at but couldn't afford an R8 ... not because of the exorbitant price of the body but because of the triple exorbitant price on the lenses. It would have cost me $16000 to build the R8 system I wanted in 1998, where the same thing in Nikon or Contax equipment would have been about $6000. Oh well. The Leica R lenses are nice, the R8 body is terrific, but it never happened.) ... I like a good rangefinder finder, and appreciate the advantages with slow glass (Finder doesn't get dimmer with slower lenses) but with fast glass, I'll take the SLR, especially if I have to shoot wide open, since I don't have to focus recompose. But this is an area where I know my opinion and that of most people differs. Having used Leica M and Nikon SLR side by side for 30 years, I have to agree with you here too. I almost always prefer the SLR viewfinder. I used the Leicas because of the lenses ... Leica's M lenses are terrific. Funny: the closest I've found to them in overall rendering qualities are Pentax lenses. :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
Cory Papenfuss wrote: IMO, a perfect example of Canon just plain being evil. I never realized how much I subconsciously used the focus confirmation on my MF lenses with my -DS until I tried using some on my friend's RebelXT. Between the bad viewfinder and lack of focus confirmation, it's extremely difficult to focus MF lenses. -Cory Actually it's merely an example of how the Canon AF system works. A fair bit of the AF processing in the Canon's is in the lens, so without a lens chip, no AF as you don't have the full AF system present, this is why issues will come up with Canon with some lenses having improved AF algorithms. Pentax and Nikon do everything in-camera and rely on the lens only for data (max aperture, focal length and focused distance[the last if available]) -Adam Really? Well honk my hooter... I wasn't aware of that. I can see how the body needs to know some things for AF, but it seems weird to actually put *processing* in the lens. A camera body has as many or more AF variables in it than the lens does (number of AF sensors, matrix metering algorithms, etc). Seems like there should be a fall-back. Oh well... if that's true then I stand informed. Not necessarily corrected since Canon is still evil... :) -Cory Well, I should be more specific, the actual processing is in-camera, but some of the algorithms are stored in the lens firmware and are lens specific (I wrote the above before coffee #1). Ergh my bad. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: has anyone here been to Iceland?
Wasn't there a lister from Iceland at one point? (Maybe now) From: Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/26 Fri PM 12:46:57 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: has anyone here been to Iceland? Nate and I are planning our next trip, to Iceland. We will probably go in August. I've been reading and I know there are endless photographic opportunities there, but I was wondering if you guys know about anything in particular that I shouldn't miss. We are tentatively planning to do the southern coast and Lake Myvatn region, though I'm not sure if Lake Myvatn will work out. Thanks, Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Eneloop batteries on DS or Flash?
Damnit - I have just spent more money that I didn't really need to! Seriously though, these sound like they will be the perfect answer for my flash and also for the istD now that it will be dormant as a backup body assuming the K10 takes over now it is on the scene. They are far from cheap in the UK...! Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson Sent: 26 January 2007 14:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Eneloop batteries on DS or Flash? On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:05, Dave Kennedy wrote: Anyone using Eneloop batteries in their cameras or flash? Just wondering how they perform. Dell.ca has a good one-day deal on them today. I've been running them in my DS since mid November. It's a delight to just pick up the DS and use it (especially after letting it sit for a week - poor camera!) without having to think about whether or not there is a charge left in there. I just picked up another set to put into my Sunpak flash. Soon I'll get a 3rd set for my Sigma Flash and I'll be quite satisfied. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
It does, and it was a special event in NY, which people are missing the point. I see every one mentioning it as if it's only value were its age. 1976 was a significant year for me and I was here for the event - a spectacular floatilla of old and new vessels ( although I dislike the warships in this cover photo, there were lots of older ones that were prettier.) Interestingly , June of 1976 I took a two week trip to the Canadian Rockies - my first such entirely on my own to heal myself mentally after a great loss. There are probably a lot of very well preserved copies of it floating (no pun) around but unless someone else really has a strong desire for it for a great reason, I'd love it. I started to write off list, but when I saw some of the responses to it decided differently. ann William Robb wrote: On 1/26/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put it up again in 2076, along with a price. At my age, 1976 seems a recent year. Jack Ok, for some reason, when I saw the publishing date was the 200th anniversary of the USA, I thought that the NYT from that day might be special for people of the Amercian community. It'll make a nice log. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
On 1/26/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, there is a program called Wega. It is a viewer actually. Sounds interesting, I'll check into it. As for statistics and the other stuff you suggested - it does more or less just that. The statistics part I suggested was more or less a benefit of collecting the data, the real functionality was basically what others had suggested, I.e. finding, sorting, viewing the images. Statistics would be interesting, but by itself might be very limited in utility. I accept your opinion about software engineering here. My proposal about Java was directed more or less towards the same goal. Oh dont get me wrong. I think Java is a great prototyping language for the kind of project he is attempting. It has lots of stuff built in (like garbage collecting), and there are lots of useful libraries and utilities out there for him to tap into. Myself, I'm a Lisp bigot, it was the second language I learned after BASIC, and I had to unlearn all the ugly things about BASIC that made it hard to use an elegant language like Lisp. Boris Gonz wrote: You didnt specify what level of effort you are talking about. 3 man months, 6 man months, a man year? Also the expectations. Is this a single course project, Bachelor's thesis, Masters? With all due respect to others who have gotten into a discussion of the merits of portability, language features, etc. I would not even worry right now about these aspects. Assuming a Bachelor's thesis, 3 man month level of effort, I would just go with the language that gets you from A to Z the quickest. If you are thinking commercialization later on, re-write it in the appropriate language (probably C++). If you are thinking that it would be useful to you and to others, then the quickie language is still the best. As to suggestions, the EXIF database sounds like a very decent suggestion. I.e. show me thumbs of all the pics I have taken with my FA85 1.4. That would be cool. Or gather statistics. What is the distribution of pics I took at each ISO (this was a recent discussion on this mail list). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Snowblind
Tom C wrote: Skiing last Saturday at Bogus Basin, it was snowy up top. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5503907 Awesome shot. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO - Dead Heads
Adam, nice presentation. Though I never thought of dry flowers as of dead ones... I think I might want to give AV a try. Boris Adam Maas wrote: http://www.mawz.ca/sets/deadheads/index.html Trying out the Autoviewer software that Godfrey used for his recent GESO, and quite liking it. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Garbage Day
Me too... Excellent stuff! Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 22, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/8 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4267a.htm Hah! I like that one. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Hope is a thing with Feathers
Ann, for some reason I really dislike the cutoff tallest feather... Sorry :-(. Boris ann sanfedele wrote: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5498964 posted one more shot from my Nora project ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
I find it meaningful. It was an emotional experience. The country had just about recovered from Viet Nam and Watergate, and things were looking good. I had just left a really bad inner city school and was teaching at a much better city school. My first born was eight months old and crawling all over the house. It was a happy time for me and my family. Somewhere, I have a Chicago Tribune of that date, and I think I have the Life magazine as well. I was still living in Chicago then, but I remember watching the NY fireworks on television. Good for you, Ann. Paul -- Original message -- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ann sanfedele Subject: Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans It does, and it was a special event in NY, which people are missing the point. I see every one mentioning it as if it's only value were its age. 1976 was a significant year for me and I was here for the event - a spectacular floatilla of old and new vessels ( although I dislike the warships in this cover photo, there were lots of older ones that were prettier.) Interestingly , June of 1976 I took a two week trip to the Canadian Rockies - my first such entirely on my own to heal myself mentally after a great loss. There are probably a lot of very well preserved copies of it floating (no pun) around but unless someone else really has a strong desire for it for a great reason, I'd love it. I started to write off list, but when I saw some of the responses to it decided differently. I had thought it would be a somewhat more significant memento as well. I recall 1976 as being a year of celebration for the USA, being it's 200th anniversary, and I recall the fireworks display that New York city put on for July 4th made our national news. Anyway, the July 4 1976 copy of the New York Times that I found in the rafters of the condo I am working on has been claimed. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PAW 2007 - 4 - GDG
Strangely enough original message did not arrive to my PDML mail box. A chill, damp morning on the Isle of Man, photographing the ruined farm at Montpelier ... This particular view is the only one I'm doing as a color photo (and there will be a BW rendering too). http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/04.htm Comments, critique, and a toss of kippers all appreciated. enjoy Godfrey Immediately after I saw it I *knew* it was 21 ltd lens. Definitely a keeper if you ask me ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Flying
My sentiment exactly. Why to crop if you have perfectly good picture as it is?! Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'd like some feedback on this. The issue is whether to crop it or not. What I like about this presentation is that you can get the sense of them flying over the trees. Cropping removes that context. On the other hand, there is sufficient detail in the ducks to handle some crop. Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X AF 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 200, 1/500 sec @ f/8 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4280.htm I like it just as it is. Cropping would change the effect substantially. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Norwegian Door
Tom, Tom C wrote: I'm afraid to click on the link. You never know what's behind closed Norwegian doors... :-) Most probably you'd find a Norwegian or two behind a Norwegian door. Terribly friendly people, these Norwegians ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
- Original Message - From: ann sanfedele Subject: Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans It does, and it was a special event in NY, which people are missing the point. I see every one mentioning it as if it's only value were its age. 1976 was a significant year for me and I was here for the event - a spectacular floatilla of old and new vessels ( although I dislike the warships in this cover photo, there were lots of older ones that were prettier.) Interestingly , June of 1976 I took a two week trip to the Canadian Rockies - my first such entirely on my own to heal myself mentally after a great loss. There are probably a lot of very well preserved copies of it floating (no pun) around but unless someone else really has a strong desire for it for a great reason, I'd love it. I started to write off list, but when I saw some of the responses to it decided differently. I had thought it would be a somewhat more significant memento as well. I recall 1976 as being a year of celebration for the USA, being it's 200th anniversary, and I recall the fireworks display that New York city put on for July 4th made our national news. Anyway, the July 4 1976 copy of the New York Times that I found in the rafters of the condo I am working on has been claimed. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Snowblind
Thanks again to Christian, Bruce, Cotty and Godfrey for your comments. Tom C. From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Snowblind Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:35:46 -0500 Tom C wrote: Skiing last Saturday at Bogus Basin, it was snowy up top. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5503907 Awesome shot. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Taking Your Photography To The Next Level.
If I was getting paid for every hour I was doing photography, I suppose a higher perecentage of my shots would also be better. Since I'm not getting paid for it, and am often in a hurry, on my way to/from a paying job... I wasn't suggesting that it was a law of averages, but your words are at odds with what I've heard at least several celebrated photographers say. I disagree wholeheartedly with the statement: I guess I do not care who feels insulted, but if every single photo (that you work at making) is not technically and esthetically salable you are not competent. How can that be? I write software and am pretty good at it. It doesn't mean that I can't make a mistake and have the end product not function as designed or envisioned. Having that be the case does not mean I'm incompetent, simply human. I'm not insulted, but I do believe you are wrong. If what you say is true, there would be no need for proof sheets and editing, and the 'professionals' are the ones who make the most use of them. Tom C. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Taking Your Photography To The Next Level. Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:15:44 -0500 As long as we understand that the top photographers toss-outs are better than our best, that is true. It really bothers me that folks think great photographs are a product of averages, of luck. A competent photographer does not produce many duds (as long as he is working at it, if he is old and lazy like me, he gets a lot of them, but not because he doesn't know better). I guess I do not care who feels insulted, but if every single photo (that you work at making) is not technically and esthetically salable you are not competent. Now that does not apply to experimental stuff, that is learning, and goes on forever, but your everyday photography better be pretty damn good if you think you are a photographer. I suggest folks get a Speed Graphic and a Polaroid back. If you think being able to shoot a lot for almost nothing improves your photography, you will be surprised at what knowing that every time you press the button it is going to cost you $2.50-$3.00 ($5.00 with flashbulbs) will do for it. -graywolf Tom C wrote: I thought it contained some useful reminders. What he fails to mention though, is that no matter how good or celebrated a photographer one is, the majority of photographs are throwaway and never make the portfolio or get exhibited to others. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Norwegian Door
Lovely. Though Jostein's door looks different... Hmmm... ;-) Boris DagT wrote: Tired of fencing, close the door please .-) http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=283279 DagT http://www.thrane.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: Moon and Venus last Saturday
Patrice, excellent stuff, though the last one (Marseille_0041) is remarkable! Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) wrote: Hi all, There was a great conjunction between Venus and the moon last Saturday. Here is a selection of my coverage of the event, here in Marseille, southern France: http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2007-01-20-LuneVenusMarseille/ http://tinyurl.com/24bg2d I have fiddled for about one month trying to figure out a nice place to shoot the event, and only Friday an old photo of mine (visible here: http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/d/1584-1/Notre+Dame+de+la+Garde-web.jpg and http://tinyurl.com/yqobhy) reminded me that I know a good vantage point from where one can see the sun and all those things that orbit around it setting almost behind the major church in Marseille (at least at this time in the year). I sent a post about this a short while *before* the event, unfortunately it failed. As usual, comments are always welcome. With all my best wishes for year 2007. Patrice -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Snowblind
I will have to ask exactly what kind of subtle meaning snowblind has... Although I love what I see, I am slightly puzzled by what I read. May be yet another cultural difference, not to mention that whatever English words relate to snow are not used much by me ;-). Thanks! Tom C wrote: Skiing last Saturday at Bogus Basin, it was snowy up top. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5503907 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Snowblind
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: PESO - Snowblind I will have to ask exactly what kind of subtle meaning snowblind has... Although I love what I see, I am slightly puzzled by what I read. May be yet another cultural difference, not to mention that whatever English words relate to snow are not used much by me ;-). Snowblind: 1) The effects of cocaine addiction. 2) What happens to you on a very bright day in snowy conditions. The eye loses it's ability to resolve contrast, and everything goes white. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language. Gonz wrote: On 1/26/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, there is a program called Wega. It is a viewer actually. Sounds interesting, I'll check into it. As for statistics and the other stuff you suggested - it does more or less just that. The statistics part I suggested was more or less a benefit of collecting the data, the real functionality was basically what others had suggested, I.e. finding, sorting, viewing the images. Statistics would be interesting, but by itself might be very limited in utility. I accept your opinion about software engineering here. My proposal about Java was directed more or less towards the same goal. Oh dont get me wrong. I think Java is a great prototyping language for the kind of project he is attempting. It has lots of stuff built in (like garbage collecting), and there are lots of useful libraries and utilities out there for him to tap into. Myself, I'm a Lisp bigot, it was the second language I learned after BASIC, and I had to unlearn all the ugly things about BASIC that made it hard to use an elegant language like Lisp. Boris Gonz wrote: You didnt specify what level of effort you are talking about. 3 man months, 6 man months, a man year? Also the expectations. Is this a single course project, Bachelor's thesis, Masters? With all due respect to others who have gotten into a discussion of the merits of portability, language features, etc. I would not even worry right now about these aspects. Assuming a Bachelor's thesis, 3 man month level of effort, I would just go with the language that gets you from A to Z the quickest. If you are thinking commercialization later on, re-write it in the appropriate language (probably C++). If you are thinking that it would be useful to you and to others, then the quickie language is still the best. As to suggestions, the EXIF database sounds like a very decent suggestion. I.e. show me thumbs of all the pics I have taken with my FA85 1.4. That would be cool. Or gather statistics. What is the distribution of pics I took at each ISO (this was a recent discussion on this mail list). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Eneloop batteries on DS or Flash?
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:45, Rob Brigham wrote: Damnit - I have just spent more money that I didn't really need to! Seriously though, these sound like they will be the perfect answer for my flash and also for the istD now that it will be dormant as a backup body assuming the K10 takes over now it is on the scene. They are far from cheap in the UK...! They are about US $12.00 for a set of 4 here. :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
On 1/25/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pentaprism vs pentamirror issue caused Pentax to reduce magnification and re-tune the focusing screen in the DL/DL2/K100D/ K110D models for brightness rather than focusing contrast, so the D/ DS/DS2/K10D present better viewfinders for manual focusing. The K10D viewfinder is pentaprism with a focusing screen similar, if not identical, to the K100D: it is quite good on surface contrasts which makes manual focusing easier. But focusing a reflex camera manually is just as much a matter of technique as it is viewfinder quality. For the folks at DPReview.com, I wrote up an exercise I use to improve skills in focusing manually that I've been using for many years. I've gotten about 20-30 emails from folks who have tried it telling me how much more effectively they are focusing with their older, manual focus lenses now, even with the standard screen. May be old hat to many people here ... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? forum=1036message=21618773 Thanks for the link, Godfrey. That's pretty much how I focus, anyway, though I've never been as methodical about it as you. Focusing manually on the K1000, MX, *ist, and PZ-1 is not a problem. Focusing on the Mamiya C220 or the Crown Graphic is not a problem. With the K100D the focus pop just never happens. Perhaps it is my eye. But I think a better viewfinder might help. If you prefer, however, Katz Eye Optics makes screens with split image focusing aids that can be used in the K100D. http://www.katzeyeopics.com I tend to prefer matte surface screens. Me, too. I have a split-image screen in the MX, which I thought was really cool when I first got it. After using it for a while I think I prefer the K1000's matte screen with microprism center. The Katz Eye screens are probably an improvement, but I don't think I would pay that much even if they didn't have the split-image. I'm going to order one of the magnifiers brought up during the course of this conversation and see if that helps. Thanks again for the link. I've bookmarked it, as it probably deserves a second read. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)
I am not uneducated concerning the various rechargable batteries types, nor am I uneducated in the various units like energy/joules, charge/coulombs, maH, capacitance, etc. I have been involved in electronics engineering for over 25 years. Its pretty rude to assume that I dont understand these things ( I dont post on things I dont understand ) and I posted nothing to the contrary. When I stated the capacity of a battery being nearly gone you and every normal person on planet earth could understand I was using common real world rechargeable batttery usage terminology, not a strict, confusing to a layman, electronics term. And mAH rating and Energy capacity (layman terminlogy used here again for the word capacity) are virtually the same thing on a given cell because a given cell has a relatively fixed voltage. So it sounds to me that you are the one a little confused here not me. i.e. a 2000mAH battery stores twice the energy of a 1000mH battery when fully charged.( Assuming same battery voltage - which I did because thats all were were talking about was one battery ). And you never answered my key question in the post, what is the intial cell voltage under the .350 amp load?? Is it only 1.1VDC or not? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:24 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire) I dont understand what you are saying. Of course they Apparently. are not dead at 1.1 volts under load, what I said is any nimh battery is nearly gone ( almost dead as a percentage of the total capacity it gives or gave ) once Capacity in terms of what? Energy or mAH... they're not the same thing. Check a book on physics... one is Joules, the other is Coulombs the amount of charge a cell can provide says nothing about how much work it can do until you know the voltage it provides it at. you go below 1.2 vdc on the cell regardless of load. If you are getting another 0.1 volt drop on these cells with a .350A load, the total additional series R is only about 0.3 ohms which is still quite low for a AA cell if that is what we are talking about here. In any case, I dont think most AA cells will give you the full maH rating under a 0.35 amp load, its just too much and I believe the maH ratings are done with a much smaller drain current to be fair to the battery makers. And your last statement is only true under high load conditions because the internal resistance is a much lower loss factor under normal or low load conditions. And what your seeing as higher internal impedance is not fixed, it varies as the cell discharges. Your not saying you only get 1.1 VDC output on these cells at the start of the 0.35A discharge cycle are you? jco skipping confusing drivel... Cell capacity is defined in terms of the C-rate. That's the amount of current they can provide for 1-hour. Actually, as you say, the test is typically done at the C/10 rate... in other words the C rate is 10x the current the battery can provide for 10 hours. Some battery constructions (even with the same fundamental chemistry like e.g. NiMH) can provide significantly different output voltages under the same loads. If the voltage-current (i.e. power) integrated over time (i.e. energy) is lower, the energy output is lower. Batteries are NOT rated in terms of energy mAH has nothing to do with energy until a voltage is defined. Now, if you cannot wrap your argumentative self around these things, please either keep it to yourself or be willing to be educated. -Cory -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote: If I am not mistake, NIMH batteries all have appox the same internal resistance and its very low compared to Nicad for example. specifically what kind of load are you draining them at and what is the output voltage of the cells under that load? Once a nimh drops below the rated voltage of 1.2 VDC the charge is nearly gone regardless of load... jco I'm using a LaCrosse BC-900 charger. It will cycle individual cells under a constant current charger or discharge, while integrating the total charge/discharge mAH capacity. As such, it's a constant current charge/load... not a constant resistance. The cells I'm referring to are Powerex 2150 mAH (IIRC), and I did the cycle at 700mA charge, 350mA discharge That's roughly C/8 discharge rate, and I obtained approx 2000mAH before dipping below 1.1V. On these cells, they're not dead at that rate until they get between 1.0 and 1.1V... on the Energizer cells it's much closer to the 1.2V you specifiy.
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
On 1/25/07, Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Mark. That's precisely why I was asking about a comparison. Manually focusing a lens on the K100D in any but the best light is a study in frustration. Otherwise, it's a nice little rig. As I ponder the possibility of adding a DSLR to my own kit I'm trying to take into account my assortment of M and M42 lenses. Should the D or K10 prove to have a significantly better viewfinder, that's probably the way I'll go. I've got a -DS (pentaprism) that I used for about 9 months with a variety of manual-focus lenses as-is. It was OK, but definately could be challenging to get the focus right. Since I've installed a split-prism focus screen, I haven't had anymore troubles. I friend of mine has a -DL. When I look through it, I see a brighter, but smaller viewfinder. It definately seems more difficult to manually-focus, but then again I haven't tried it with an aftermarket screen either. Not sure if that helps, but just to let you know that about 95% of my shooting is done with MF glass (M42/K/M, and a little A). Thanks, Cory. That helps. That's the kind of feedback I'm looking for. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Snowblind
Thanks Boris. I was loosely using the term to refer to the near whiteout conditions I was experiencing, which when the most extreme leave one seeing only white. M-W dictionary definition, (apparently it's correctly written snow-blind) is: Main Entry: snow blindness : inflammation and photophobia caused by exposure of the eyes to ultraviolet rays reflected from snow or ice - snow-blind or snow-blind·ed and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_blindness and from a Thesauraus Verb 1. snow-blind - affect with snow blindness; the glare of the sun snow-blinded her Adj. 1. snow-blind - temporarily blinded by exposure to light reflected from snow or ice snow-blinded Hope this helps. :-) Tom C. From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Snowblind Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:46:58 +0200 I will have to ask exactly what kind of subtle meaning snowblind has... Although I love what I see, I am slightly puzzled by what I read. May be yet another cultural difference, not to mention that whatever English words relate to snow are not used much by me ;-). Thanks! Tom C wrote: Skiing last Saturday at Bogus Basin, it was snowy up top. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5503907 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
On 1/25/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/1/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: What do you think are the odds that someone will have a Canon with M42 adapter at GFM? g Not me! I wouldn't think so. vbg -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
:-) Not bad at all. Cheers, Dave On 1/27/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Kirk support for K10D
Just received the following good news: -- unpaid ad follows -- Kirk fully supports the Pentax K10D http://kirklist.c.topica.com/maafCdgabv9CWbeJNA3bafpLDZ/ Kirkphoto.com now offers a set of Quick Release products to fit the popular new Pentax K10D camera, with or without the D-BG2 Battery Grip. The (http://kirkphoto.com/newplate4p.html) PZ-33 plate for the K10D body, the (http://kirkphoto.com/newplate4p.html) PZ-117 for the D-BG2 Battery Grip, the (http://www.kirkphoto.com/lbracketso.html) BL-K10 L-Bracket for the body, and the (http://www.kirkphoto.com/lbracketso.html) BL-K10G L-Bracket to fit the K10D with the battery grip attached. Like all Kirk Quick Release Plates and L-Brackets, these are custom designed and machined to conform to the exact contours for maximum stability and support. Kirk L-Brackets work with the Arca-style quick release system and allow you to quickly switch the camera from horizontal to vertical on your tripod without flopping your ball head. These bracket allows full access to all switches and battery doors in both vertical and horizontal position! However, to use the CS-205 Cable Switch, you'll need to add the (http://www.kirkphoto.com/lbrackets.html#LBA1) LBA-1 USB/AS spacer block. -- end unpaid ad -- The *ist-D quick-release plates were surprisingly close to a proper fit for the K10D, but I am glad to see that Kirk now has K10D specific plates. By the way, the notice says they have the K10D L-brackets (one for use with the body only, one for use with the grip attached.) When you go to their Pentax Plates page, it says the L-brackets are coming soon. But if you browse around the site a bit you can find the L-brackets and other neat stuff as well. Disclaimer: no personal benefit to me if you buy Kirk - I am just a very satisfied customer. Stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
I like that very much! Who took it? rim shot Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language. Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it introduced and its too bad that it wasnt adopted by other languages, i.e. lambda is beautiful. Gonz wrote: On 1/26/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, there is a program called Wega. It is a viewer actually. Sounds interesting, I'll check into it. As for statistics and the other stuff you suggested - it does more or less just that. The statistics part I suggested was more or less a benefit of collecting the data, the real functionality was basically what others had suggested, I.e. finding, sorting, viewing the images. Statistics would be interesting, but by itself might be very limited in utility. I accept your opinion about software engineering here. My proposal about Java was directed more or less towards the same goal. Oh dont get me wrong. I think Java is a great prototyping language for the kind of project he is attempting. It has lots of stuff built in (like garbage collecting), and there are lots of useful libraries and utilities out there for him to tap into. Myself, I'm a Lisp bigot, it was the second language I learned after BASIC, and I had to unlearn all the ugly things about BASIC that made it hard to use an elegant language like Lisp. Boris Gonz wrote: You didnt specify what level of effort you are talking about. 3 man months, 6 man months, a man year? Also the expectations. Is this a single course project, Bachelor's thesis, Masters? With all due respect to others who have gotten into a discussion of the merits of portability, language features, etc. I would not even worry right now about these aspects. Assuming a Bachelor's thesis, 3 man month level of effort, I would just go with the language that gets you from A to Z the quickest. If you are thinking commercialization later on, re-write it in the appropriate language (probably C++). If you are thinking that it would be useful to you and to others, then the quickie language is still the best. As to suggestions, the EXIF database sounds like a very decent suggestion. I.e. show me thumbs of all the pics I have taken with my FA85 1.4. That would be cool. Or gather statistics. What is the distribution of pics I took at each ISO (this was a recent discussion on this mail list). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin
What is the truth about American Girl in Italy, which is one of my all time favorite photogarphs? The New York Times, Sunday April 30, 1995 Candid or Contrived? The Making of a Classic by Shaun Considine Some of you may know? Regards Jens Bladt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/653 - Release Date: 01/26/2007 11:11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: OT: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin What is the truth about American Girl in Italy, which is one of my all time favorite photogarphs? The New York Times, Sunday April 30, 1995 Candid or Contrived? The Making of a Classic by Shaun Considine Some of you may know? Contrived. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Tom C wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg I dunno... Look at all those hot pixels... :-P -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Taking Your Photography To The Next Level.
Agreed. I found George's rankings mildly interesting, but not particularly valuable More of a thought starter than anything else, but something a lot of photographers I've met could benefit from. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Taking Your Photography To The Next Level. Agreed. I found George's rankings mildly interesting, but not particularly valuable. They're more descriptive than prescriptive. Paul On Jan 25, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 26/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting reading, well written, that most of us could benefit from. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/next-level.shtml Personally I think George should stick to being a physician and give up on the self appointed post of sage photographer. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Taking Your Photography To The Next Level.
Cut the guy some slack - this is, after all, just part one of a three-part article. The prescriptive stuff comes later, as alluded to in the final part of this initial article. Sure, it's nothing earth-shattering. But it's a reasonable set of definitions, laying the groundwork for later columns. On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 07:07:46PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: Agreed. I found George's rankings mildly interesting, but not particularly valuable. They're more descriptive than prescriptive. Paul On Jan 25, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: On 26/01/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting reading, well written, that most of us could benefit from. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/next-level.shtml Personally I think George should stick to being a physician and give up on the self appointed post of sage photographer. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
On 26/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I find it meaningful. It was an emotional experience. The country had just about recovered from Viet Nam and Watergate, and things were looking good. I had just left a really bad inner city school and was teaching at a much better city school. My first born was eight months old and crawling all over the house. It was a happy time for me and my family. Somewhere, I have a Chicago Tribune of that date, and I think I have the Life magazine as well. I was still living in Chicago then, but I remember watching the NY fireworks on television. Good for you, Ann. I was 16 and in Cupertino. A month later I was back in the UK as my father decided to repatriate. For a few months I was in a daze and curious as to my knew surroundings (which were as far removed from 70's California as you can get). Then I was terribly 'homesick' and wanted desperately to go back. I made plans to return and be with my high school friends again. The fact that I'd have nowhere to love did not deter me. Then I discovered beer and girls. Haven't looked back ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught_page17.php Peter Daalder of Winkleig and Evandale, Tasmania, Australia Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like that very much! Who took it? rim shot Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Well, OK. I, mistakenly, thought that anyone who would use Velvia, would buy a 5D. ;-/ I still like the shot a lot. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught_page17.php Peter Daalder of Winkleig and Evandale, Tasmania, Australia Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like that very much! Who took it? rim shot Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Tom, it looks nice, but with a bit of closer look it seems as if there is a horizontal banding... Seriously. Boris Tom C wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
On 26/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Tom, it looks nice, but with a bit of closer look it seems as if there is a horizontal banding... Seriously. How in heck can you tell on a 64kb web image? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
You're axion (axiom) may still be true. :-) I'm an incompetent speller. ;-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:52:40 -0800 (PST) Well, OK. I, mistakenly, thought that anyone who would use Velvia, would buy a 5D. ;-/ I still like the shot a lot. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught_page17.php Peter Daalder of Winkleig and Evandale, Tasmania, Australia Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like that very much! Who took it? rim shot Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
You're axion (axiom) may still be true. :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:52:40 -0800 (PST) Well, OK. I, mistakenly, thought that anyone who would use Velvia, would buy a 5D. ;-/ I still like the shot a lot. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught_page17.php Peter Daalder of Winkleig and Evandale, Tasmania, Australia Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like that very much! Who took it? rim shot Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
Cotty wrote: The fact that I'd have nowhere to love did not deter me. Our cotty... Looking for love in all the wrong places... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: advice for re-use of images
Alastair Robertson wrote: Ann the bug was quite noxious - Remotesiteus unavailablicus (quite common I believe) but temporarily at least eradicated now Thanks also for the nice complements about our site Alastair LOL! I should have recognized it right away :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
You're axion may still be true. :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:52:40 -0800 (PST) Well, OK. I, mistakenly, thought that anyone who would use Velvia, would buy a 5D. ;-/ I still like the shot a lot. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught_page17.php Peter Daalder of Winkleig and Evandale, Tasmania, Australia Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like that very much! Who took it? rim shot Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
On 26/1/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: The fact that I'd have nowhere to love did not deter me. LOL *live* -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Faded History: May be of interest to the Americans
On 1/26/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/1/07, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: The fact that I'd have nowhere to love did not deter me. LOL *live* We know what you really meant. And it wasn't live. g -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - Taking Your Photography To The Next Level.
On 1/25/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting reading, well written, that most of us could benefit from. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/next-level.shtml Thanks for the link, Ken. I followed the link at the bottom of the article to his personal website, where I also found a link to some video clips of an interview with Sam Abell. I saw these several months ago, but took the time to watch them again. Highly recommended. http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0206/sam_intro.htm -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin
I think semi contrived... I believe she set up and had the girl walk by.. but the guys on the street were not in on it entirely... Too bad it was even set up to that extent . BTW - If any of you ever see a photo of Orkin's of a guy in swimming trunks leaping into the air to grab a frisbee - shot in Central Park about um 30 years ago, (in a book?on line?) let me know. ann William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: OT: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin What is the truth about American Girl in Italy, which is one of my all time favorite photogarphs? The New York Times, Sunday April 30, 1995 Candid or Contrived? The Making of a Classic by Shaun Considine Some of you may know? Contrived. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Cotty wrote: On 26/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Tom, it looks nice, but with a bit of closer look it seems as if there is a horizontal banding... Seriously. How in heck can you tell on a 64kb web image? Because I never saw a striped sky at night, no matter how much I squinted... Cotty, I am not attacking Canon though, am I? ;-) Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
On 26/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Tom, it looks nice, but with a bit of closer look it seems as if there is a horizontal banding... Seriously. How in heck can you tell on a 64kb web image? Cheers, Cotty The web tends to make us judge based on low-res facsimiles as opposed to the real thing. We have no idea other than ISO and exposure, how the image was captured and what if any post-processing was done, or of the proficiency of the person doing it, or if it was being done in a hurry. There's a second picture there also... http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder1.jpg No offense Boris, but when I put my eye close up to newsprint I can see alot of weird little dots in the photos to. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Kirk support for K10D
Bought a Q/R plate from Kirk, for my K10D in early January. Like all their products I've purchased, No issues. Their response to the K10D is encouraging to me, like they're taking it as a serious entry by Pentax. With previous Pentax products, Kirk didn't seem too interested to supply items designed for a specific Pentax body - ie for the *ist D I had to buy a generic L bracket, while they had unique, made for the body L brackets for Canon Nikon bodies. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kirk support for K10D Just received the following good news: -- unpaid ad follows -- Kirk fully supports the Pentax K10D http://kirklist.c.topica.com/maafCdgabv9CWbeJNA3bafpLDZ/ Kirkphoto.com now offers a set of Quick Release products to fit the popular new Pentax K10D camera, with or without the D-BG2 Battery Grip. The (http://kirkphoto.com/newplate4p.html) PZ-33 plate for the K10D body, the (http://kirkphoto.com/newplate4p.html) PZ-117 for the D-BG2 Battery Grip, the (http://www.kirkphoto.com/lbracketso.html) BL-K10 L-Bracket for the body, and the (http://www.kirkphoto.com/lbracketso.html) BL-K10G L-Bracket to fit the K10D with the battery grip attached. Like all Kirk Quick Release Plates and L-Brackets, these are custom designed and machined to conform to the exact contours for maximum stability and support. Kirk L-Brackets work with the Arca-style quick release system and allow you to quickly switch the camera from horizontal to vertical on your tripod without flopping your ball head. These bracket allows full access to all switches and battery doors in both vertical and horizontal position! However, to use the CS-205 Cable Switch, you'll need to add the (http://www.kirkphoto.com/lbrackets.html#LBA1) LBA-1 USB/AS spacer block. -- end unpaid ad -- The *ist-D quick-release plates were surprisingly close to a proper fit for the K10D, but I am glad to see that Kirk now has K10D specific plates. By the way, the notice says they have the K10D L-brackets (one for use with the body only, one for use with the grip attached.) When you go to their Pentax Plates page, it says the L-brackets are coming soon. But if you browse around the site a bit you can find the L-brackets and other neat stuff as well. Disclaimer: no personal benefit to me if you buy Kirk - I am just a very satisfied customer. Stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin
My question to all of you is, assuming the answer is unknown, how can you tell? Tom C. From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:10:04 -0500 I think semi contrived... I believe she set up and had the girl walk by.. but the guys on the street were not in on it entirely... Too bad it was even set up to that extent . BTW - If any of you ever see a photo of Orkin's of a guy in swimming trunks leaping into the air to grab a frisbee - shot in Central Park about um 30 years ago, (in a book?on line?) let me know. ann William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: OT: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin What is the truth about American Girl in Italy, which is one of my all time favorite photogarphs? The New York Times, Sunday April 30, 1995 Candid or Contrived? The Making of a Classic by Shaun Considine Some of you may know? Contrived. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PAW 2007 - 4 - GDG (mh)
Thanks for the additional comments ... Paul, Michael, Mark, Harry, Boris, Bruce, et al! I have about 8-12 exposures of this scene where I varied the dividing line of the wall, foreground and background, and the focus point. How the wall, the foreground and the background interact, where the focus zone is placed, are all pretty important in this kind of photo. In the end, this is the framing and focus zone I like most as it enhances the near-far relationships and creates that feel of several planes in one view. My eye rests naturally in the bottom third and reaches up into the distance. I also feel it works best with the rest of the set. But that's my opinion ... which in this case I get to stand by having tried the other crops and such and not liking them as much. I love this stuff. :-) Godfrey mark hahn (amongst others) wrote: I'm not big on how the wall divided the photo up either... http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/04.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Comet McNaught - Canon 400D
http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Wright1.jpg No banding present. :-) Tom C. From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:10:30 -0700 On 26/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Tom, it looks nice, but with a bit of closer look it seems as if there is a horizontal banding... Seriously. How in heck can you tell on a 64kb web image? Cheers, Cotty The web tends to make us judge based on low-res facsimiles as opposed to the real thing. We have no idea other than ISO and exposure, how the image was captured and what if any post-processing was done, or of the proficiency of the person doing it, or if it was being done in a hurry. There's a second picture there also... http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder1.jpg No offense Boris, but when I put my eye close up to newsprint I can see alot of weird little dots in the photos to. :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
On 1/23/07, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, choice of programming language and envrionment will be harder. I have no experience in Java (but it looks like it should be doable). I'm more C++/Delphi. Graphical library for the GUI part will also be tricky. Any recommendation for a Win/OSX/Linux (or at least Win/Linux) environment? I know Delphi/Kylix and BuilderX but none of those will allow OSX development. I'd like to make a small recommendation. I've taken a few programming courses (C, Fortran and COBOL (yuck!)), but do not consider myself a programmer. The continued development of your application would benefit from an openly available language, and not something that's locked down by a vendor. Programming in a language like C or Java or even Python or Perl will make portability possible later on. My apologies if this has already been suggested in an earlier reply. Looking forward to the end result! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Really nice, Tom. The tree is the kicker! -Brendan --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: manually focusing a DSLR
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: May be old hat to many people here ... http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? forum=1036message=21618773 Thanks for the link, Godfrey. That's pretty much how I focus, anyway, though I've never been as methodical about it as you. Happy to have served ... ;-) I don't think how I learned to focus this was quite as methodical as the exercise I posted, but when you try to write it down for other people to use and benefit, it comes across that way. My first reflex camera was a 1949 Rolleiflex TLR with a mirror that badly needed resurfacing and a plain groundglass focusing screen ... not even matte fresnel like nearly anything made after 1957 had. Learning to focus accurately with it was a chore. Made my next reflex camera, the Nikon F Photomic FTn with A screen, seem like heaven after that! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mac Surprise
On Jan 26, 2007, at 12:53 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: On 25.01.2007, at 23:19 , Peter Lacus wrote: Strangely enough, Preview on one of our iMacs I've tried (Core Duo/10.4.8) can't display .PEFs from my istDs. So is it limited just to istD? No it is not. The latest Digital Camera RAW Support in Mac OSX supports *istD, Dl and Ds. You can download Intel update directly from here: http://appldnld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/content.info.apple.com/ Aperture/061-2904.20061113.pMu8T/DigitalCameraRAWUniv200601.dmg Sylwek, I'd forgotten all about that particular update. Do you happen to know whether it is incorporated into the v10.4.8 update, which came out a month or two later? I know it had some updates to the core graphics framework in it. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote: On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language. Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it introduced and its too bad that it wasnt adopted by other languages, i.e. lambda is beautiful. Ok, geeky trivia time ... which came first, LISP or FORTRAN? And no peeking at google.com... ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Tom C wrote: The web tends to make us judge based on low-res facsimiles as opposed to the real thing. We have no idea other than ISO and exposure, how the image was captured and what if any post-processing was done, or of the proficiency of the person doing it, or if it was being done in a hurry. There's a second picture there also... http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder1.jpg No offense Boris, but when I put my eye close up to newsprint I can see alot of weird little dots in the photos to. :-) Tom C. None taken. Both this one and the other one you posted look beautifully on my screen. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
Regardless of any possible technical defects, they're both excellent photos! Ah for a view like that and a clear sky to photograph... Light pollution and haze from fog in this neighborhood makes such photography virtually impossible. When we experienced the Mars Conjunction in 2003 or so, I had to wait until the planet was well up over 40 degrees into the sky to see anything at all. G http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder1.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
On 1/26/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote: On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language. Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it introduced and its too bad that it wasnt adopted by other languages, i.e. lambda is beautiful. Ok, geeky trivia time ... which came first, LISP or FORTRAN? And no peeking at google.com... ;-) What is FORTRAN, Alex? BTW, as much as most hate it, I rather like FORTRAN. If you can't do it in Fortran, do it in assembly language. If you can't do it in assembly language, it isn't worth doing. Please see: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html ;) -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photo Challenge: Moon, Jupiter and Antares
I'm in, if I'm reminded, and if the weather is any good. The last part of the disclaimer probably means that I'm not in :-( But it could be fun. Never shot planets before except some boring test moon shots. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrice LACOUTURE (GMail) Sent: 25. januar 2007 01:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Photo Challenge: Moon, Jupiter and Antares Hello, Some of you may have noticed my latest GESO, about a nice conjunction between the thin moon crescent and the planet Venus last Saturday (GESO visible here): http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/geso/2007-01-20-LuneVenusMarseille/ http://tinyurl.com/24bg2d Unfortunately, I forgot to post a notice on the list beforehand, and only David Savage and I shared images of this event (Dave's images here): http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0846.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0855.htm For people here that are interested in doing this kind of photos, I propose another similar challenge: On next February 12, the now growing moon will then be a very thin crescent again, closing to the sun. At this very day, it will cruise near the very bright planet Jupiter and the bright start Antares, in the Scorpion constellation. The trio will raise at the east (as usual), shortly before the sun, wherever you live. There are two challenges here: - doing a nice composition, of general photographic interest, and not only a pure astronomical documentary photograph, that would please only astronomers. - getting up at this time of the morning (and of the year in northern countries) I will do my best to produce something, and I invite enthusiasts to join me. To get an idea of what to expect, I did a simulation with the great software Stellarium, visible here: http://www.lacouture.nom.fr/gallery/v/divers/2007-02-12-MJA/2007-02-12-Moon- Jupiter-Antares-crop.jpg.html http://tinyurl.com/ytmx8k This simulation is for Marseilles, France, but the configuration should be similar wherever you live in the northern hemisphere. The moon inclination will vary according to your latitude, and will be reversed in the southern hemisphere, but you get the idea. FYI, my shot of last saturday with the longest focal was approx 125mm. This is not really a synchronicity project, as everyone must take the picture before dawn wherever (s)he lives, before the moon and the rest disappear into the sun's light. If the number of participants is enough, I'll probably set up a gallery somewhere to host the images. If this bothers you, sorry for that, otherwise, enjoy! Patrice -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: about NiMH batteries (was: aliasing/moire)
it sounds to me that you are the one a little confused here not me. i.e. a 2000mAH battery stores twice the energy of a 1000mH battery when fully charged.( Assuming same battery voltage - which I did because thats all were were talking about was one battery ). I'm not talking nominal voltage... I'm talking instantaneous voltage. It's generally a fallacious statement that a 2000mAH battery has twice the energy of a 1000mAH battery... even of the same chemistry. As an illustrative example, consider the plots on this guy's page: http://sackheads.org/~jimmie/battery/analysis.html Not only the same chemistry, but the same brand and model. Granted, this test was done with a constant *resistance* and not a constant current as I discussed, but the results would be similar. Notice some cells hold a lower voltage for longer. The energy in these cells is the time integral of voltage and current. The mAH rating is only circuitously related to energy capacity. And you never answered my key question in the post, what is the intial cell voltage under the .350 amp load?? Is it only 1.1VDC or not? No it is not, initially. A *good* cell will fall off the edge at a higher voltage than a crappy cell... A crappy cell may not fall off the edge until below 1.0V... in other words, it'll put out the same current for a long time between 1.1 and 1.0. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Robert, this time I am totally on your side. Gonz wrote: On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language. Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it introduced and its too bad that it wasnt adopted by other languages, i.e. lambda is beautiful. I think that Lisp is *the* most beautiful programming language. I have a bit of experience of educational lisp programming including e-lisp of Emacs. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D
I'll have to take your word for it. I'm certainly no spell check. I assume what you spell is correct..without proof. I wouldn't notice if something were spelled rong. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're axion (axiom) may still be true. :-) I'm an incompetent speller. ;-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Comet McNaught - Canon 5D Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:52:40 -0800 (PST) Well, OK. I, mistakenly, thought that anyone who would use Velvia, would buy a 5D. ;-/ I still like the shot a lot. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://spaceweather.com/comets/gallery_mcnaught_page17.php Peter Daalder of Winkleig and Evandale, Tasmania, Australia Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like that very much! Who took it? rim shot Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not bad for a Canon 5D. :-| http://spaceweather.com/comets/mcnaught/22jan07/Daalder2.jpg Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Interest in developing a software around photograhy?
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Gonz wrote: On 1/26/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a Lisp bigot would call it an elegant language. Its IMO one of the truly unique and elegant languages with elegant roots. The data = program paradigm is one of the concepts it introduced and its too bad that it wasnt adopted by other languages, i.e. lambda is beautiful. Ok, geeky trivia time ... which came first, LISP or FORTRAN? And no peeking at google.com... ;-) G Godders, every progra-toddler knows that Fortran was the first symbolic programming language after machine code and assembly. Lisp came in the second ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
