PESO - Oh no, another sunset!

2007-02-05 Thread John Coyle
Dramatic enough for another presentation, I think.
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Re: Lens question

2007-02-05 Thread Cotty
On 4/2/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

I;ll compare weight with Cotty at GFM this year.

Later we'll see how much our big body cameras weight.

LOL

Har! I better start pushing down the Yorkshire puddings ;-)

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Re: OT Working with Gifs

2007-02-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/04 Sun PM 11:49:21 GMT
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 Subject: Re: OT Working with Gifs
 
 Thanks.
 
 The files they sent are under 80K. I tried to upres them using the 10%
 method, but all i got was worser jags.Good english , eh.:-)
 
 I hope i can get something a bit higher in res. Its our logo and
 selling point. Gotta have something nice right.

heresy
I don't think you will be able to do that digitally.  Easiest way I have found 
to improve that situation is to print it out as large as you can and redraw it, 
using the original as a base.  Then rescan at higher resolution.  That will 
give you a whacking huge file to downres as much as your little heart desires.
/heresy


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Re: Re: Waitangi Angels

2007-02-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/05 Mon AM 12:21:23 GMT
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 Subject: Re: Waitangi Angels
 
 Is this Mrs Who??
 
 http://www.web-options.com/London3/content/_2033343_large.html

Not even first base.  8-)  His box is blue, what?


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Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread Peter McIntosh
Hi,

Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not filters - lenses.  
Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and yahoo-ed, but to no 
avail.

Ciao,

Peter in Western Sydney

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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread David Savage
As I understand it Hoya supply the glass that others then make into a
complete lens.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO - Oh no, another sunset!

2007-02-05 Thread David Savage
Very nice John.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: OT Working with Gifs

2007-02-05 Thread David Savage
On 2/5/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Thanks.
 
  The files they sent are under 80K. I tried to upres them using the 10%
  method, but all i got was worser jags.Good english , eh.:-)
 
  I hope i can get something a bit higher in res. Its our logo and
  selling point. Gotta have something nice right.

 heresy
 I don't think you will be able to do that digitally.  Easiest way I have 
 found to improve that situation is to print it out as large as you can and 
 redraw it, using the original as a base.  Then rescan at higher resolution.  
 That will give you a whacking huge file to downres as much as your little 
 heart desires.
 /heresy

I've done that many times at work.

The client is asked to supply a general arrangment drawing of their
vessel. They email back an scan, of a photocopy, of a fax.

Aggghhh!!

Dave

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Re: OT Working with Gifs

2007-02-05 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/02/05 Mon AM 10:43:46 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT Working with Gifs
 
 On 2/5/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Thanks.
  
   The files they sent are under 80K. I tried to upres them using the 10%
   method, but all i got was worser jags.Good english , eh.:-)
  
   I hope i can get something a bit higher in res. Its our logo and
   selling point. Gotta have something nice right.
 
  heresy
  I don't think you will be able to do that digitally.  Easiest way I have 
  found to improve that situation is to print it out as large as you can and 
  redraw it, using the original as a base.  Then rescan at higher resolution. 
   That will give you a whacking huge file to downres as much as your little 
  heart desires.
  /heresy
 
 I've done that many times at work.
 
 The client is asked to supply a general arrangment drawing of their
 vessel. They email back an scan, of a photocopy, of a fax.

Therefore in black and white and several (all the same) shades of grey.

 
 Aggghhh!!

Double.

 
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Re: Lens question

2007-02-05 Thread John Whittingham
 Reviewing those, wide open at longer focal lengths I saw a small and 
  easily correctable amount of CA when fitted with the teleconverter, 
  which just about disappeared 1-2 stops down where I'd normally use  
 the lens. Without the teleconverter, I see no CA of any significance.
 
 Yes, I'm quite taken with the DA50-200. I only rarely use field of  
 view much narrower than what the DA70 offers but I like to have the  
 option. I've owned many longer lenses in the past and always found  
 that they were either poor performers (I couldn't afford the premium 
  glass) or so large and heavy I never used them. The 50-200 performs 
  very well and is compact/light such that it is worth having,  
 especially at the price. I feel it easily performs on par with any 
 of  the modestly priced zooms in this general focal length range 
 that  I've tried.

All this sounds very promising from what is a quite modestly priced lens, my 
problem has always been using a xx-200 with an aperture at the long end of 
f/5.6 when I could use an F 100-300 or FA 80-320 with the same aperture, both 
the latter appear to be rather good optically until 200mm or there abouts. I 
guess the only concern would be weight or size, I'm having to re-think what I 
consider a good lens kit to carry with the digital bodies.

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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread DagT
Try Tokina, which is owned by Hoya...

DagT
 
 Fra: Peter McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not filters - lenses.  
 Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and yahoo-ed, but to no 
 avail.
 
 Ciao,
 
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RE: PESO - Oh no, another sunset!

2007-02-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
The lines of light, below the horizon, makes it something more than just
another sunset. 
I think it needs to be displayed on a dark background to bring out more
details in the shadow. 


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: PESO - Oh no, another sunset!

Dramatic enough for another presentation, I think.
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Re: PESO - Oh no, another sunset!

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
lovely.

I like the line of lights in the foreground. It would be great if you  
could lighten the foreground just a tiny bit to bring up a little  
more detailing ... not enough to ruin the effect. :-)

G

On Feb 5, 2007, at 12:05 AM, John Coyle wrote:

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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread Adam Maas
I understand that there were a few Hoya lenses back in the 70's. Nothing 
special, but not crap either.

-Adam

Peter McIntosh wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not filters - lenses.  
 Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and yahoo-ed, but to no 
 avail.
 
 Ciao,
 
 Peter in Western Sydney
 


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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think Hoya sells lenses under it's own name, they own Tokina.

Peter McIntosh wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not filters - lenses.  
 Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and yahoo-ed, but to no 
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 Ciao,

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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread Adam Maas
But they used to. Hoya and Tokina only hooked up in the 90's.

-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:
 I don't think Hoya sells lenses under it's own name, they own Tokina.
 
 Peter McIntosh wrote:
 Hi,

 Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not filters - lenses.  
 Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and yahoo-ed, but to no 
 avail.

 Ciao,

 Peter in Western Sydney

   
 
 


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Re: GESO - Call Any Vegetable

2007-02-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/4/2007 9:52:10 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Feb 4, 2007, at 8:21 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/VEGETABLES/

They're all good, Marnie,  but I'm particular for the Carrots.  :-)

Godfrey


==
Thanks, Godfrey. I thought that one  was a little soft, but, yes, I do like 
the naturalness of the  composition.

Thanks for looking.

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Re: OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/4/2007 10:32:13 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And now, just to be  *slightly* on-topic, here's a new PESO, the latest 
version of my Live Oak  BW conversion:
http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm

Not quite  there yet, but I find it's best to make some changes and then 
wait a couple  of days before looking at it and deciding if I like it or  
not.


===
Ugh. I like the photo, but the rendering  doesn't ring my chimes. 

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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Normally I'd point to Monahans Medium Format Megasite, but it seems to 
have been abandoned.  It maintained the * Third Party Lenses Resource 
Megasite Home Page with *quite a few legacy pages about 3rd party 35mm 
lenses.  I was able to find it in the Wayback Machine and here is it's 
2004 listing of Hoya Lenses

   Third Party Lenses from the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s
 (sorted by brand, focal length, f/stop)


Brand  Focal (mm) f/stop Yr  List $   1998 $   Diaphragm   Lens Type
   Length

hoya28   2.8 79$160 $380   autowide HMC
hoya35   2.8 79$130 $308   autowide HMC
hoya   135   2.8 79$130 $308   autotele HMC
hoya   200   3.5 79$172 $408   autotele HMC
hoya 100-300   5 79$398 $944   autozoom HMC
hoya 25-42   3.5 79$500   $1,186   autozoom
hoya 35-105  3.5 77$450   $1,246   autozoom
hoya 70-150  3.8 79$270 $640   autozoom
hoya 70-210  3.8 77$450   $1,246   autozoom HMC
hoya 80-2004 79$295 $700   autozoom



Adam Maas wrote:
 I understand that there were a few Hoya lenses back in the 70's. Nothing 
 special, but not crap either.

 -Adam

 Peter McIntosh wrote:
   
 Hi,

 Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not filters - lenses.  
 Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and yahoo-ed, but to no 
 avail.

 Ciao,

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Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

2007-02-05 Thread Roman
http://www.photodo.com/product_332.html

In anticipation of the new DA* lenses major Pentax retailer in Estonia 
has dropped the price for older FA and FA J lenses by 40%. Does anyone 
have an example photos made with this 28-105 lense I'm planning to 
purchase. A comments from your personal experience using this lense 
would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

2007-02-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Roman, I suggest you take very careful approach towards this lens. I
had one sample that would display focus confirmation in the viewfinder
of my *istD but no, I repeat no, element of the picture was actually
in focus.

Evidently the sample variation is very significant. Thus I suggest you
insist that you check this lens on your very camera before you buy it.

Ultimately, I bought Tamron XR DI 28-75/2.8 lens and I am extremely
happy about that.

Thanks.

On 2/5/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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K10D @ ISO 3200

2007-02-05 Thread Jens Bladt
I have heard ther's a setting somewhere that will allow for exposing
according to ISO 3200.
I can't find anything in the manual.  Is this true? How?
Regards
Jens

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Re: K10D @ ISO 3200

2007-02-05 Thread Boris Liberman
The rumor has it that in the future Pentax will release a camera micro
code that will enable both ISO 50 and ISO 3200 'cause one of the beta
versions had it. Currently we're confined to 100-1600 range.

Cheers.

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Re: Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

2007-02-05 Thread pnstenquist
I owned that lens and used it quite a bit with my *istD. I sold it after 
purchasing the DA 16-45 and the DA 50-200, because I wasn't using it any more. 
But it performed quite well. Here are two examples:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2399802size=lg
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3451662size=lg
Paul
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 have an example photos made with this 28-105 lense I'm planning to 
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Re: Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

2007-02-05 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I agree with Boris. Make sure that you can test it or at leat return it if it 
doesn't work properly.

My unit worked perfectly with my MZ-5n. Hovewer, with my Ds it would hunt and 
lots of times refuse to focus at the long end (105mm). When it focused the 
images came out well though.

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Asunto: Re: Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

Roman, I suggest you take very careful approach towards this lens. I
had one sample that would display focus confirmation in the viewfinder
of my *istD but no, I repeat no, element of the picture was actually
in focus.

Evidently the sample variation is very significant. Thus I suggest you
insist that you check this lens on your very camera before you buy it.

Ultimately, I bought Tamron XR DI 28-75/2.8 lens and I am extremely
happy about that.

Thanks.

On 2/5/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.photodo.com/product_332.html

 In anticipation of the new DA* lenses major Pentax retailer in Estonia
 has dropped the price for older FA and FA J lenses by 40%. Does anyone
 have an example photos made with this 28-105 lense I'm planning to
 purchase. A comments from your personal experience using this lense
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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread Joseph Tainter
Try Tokina, which is owned by Hoya...

DagT

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There was much discussion of this at dpreview some time ago. The gist 
was that Tokina is not owned by Hoya. But they jointly market together, 
at least in the U.S., with Kenko (THK).

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PESO - Snowless Shasta

2007-02-05 Thread Eactivist
When I went to visit my father's home town last  October, I also wanted to 
get some shots of Mt. Shasta. Scott Valley, where I  went, is NW of Shasta.

So wouldn't you know it had been a very dry year  and there was practically 
no snow? 

Taking shots of Shasta was the only  time I went out of my way on that trip 
to take some photographs just to take  some photographs. I had to find the lake 
(not in town), drive around it and find  the private campground that I had 
been told had a beach, pay an entrance fee,  and hike to the beach. Lots of 
work. :-)


Nothing special, a tourist  shot, but I did like the  cloud.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/snowless.htm

Comments,  welcome.

I suppose a polarizer would have been a good idea, but I didn't  think of it 
at the time.

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Re: PESO - Oh no, another sunset!

2007-02-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
Oh yeah, dramatic enough.  Very nice with the bridge lights filling in
the dark area on the lower left.  Thanks for sharing this one.

-- 
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JC Dramatic enough for another presentation, I think.
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Re: Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

2007-02-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Indeed, Jaume, apparently different cameras manage to focus this lens
with a different degree of success.

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 I agree with Boris. Make sure that you can test it or at leat return it if it 
 doesn't work properly.

 My unit worked perfectly with my MZ-5n. Hovewer, with my Ds it would hunt and 
 lots of times refuse to focus at the long end (105mm). When it focused the 
 images came out well though.

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OT: McNaught Caught

2007-02-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
From The Astronomy Picture of the Day page, here is a really great
image of McNaught -- and other attractions in the sky:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070205.html

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Re: GESO: Chicago Lions

2007-02-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Should it be the Chicago Lambs now?

Dan M

On 2/4/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK kiddies, I know this is an international list, but the Chicago
 Bears will start playing the Indianapolis Colts within the hour.  We
 are all excited here in Chicago, even the Lions in front of the Art
 Institute.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/ArtInstituteLions

 It was cold and clear here today (-20 degrees C), but a steady stream
 of fans were came for snaps with them.

 Go Bears! ! !

 Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: February 2007 PUG is open a bit early

2007-02-05 Thread Henk Terhell
Jaume, glad you like this. I knew it was a bit tricky to submit a
cormorants picture ..

Henk

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 Sent: 04 February, 2007 11:36 PM
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 Subject: Re: February 2007 PUG is open a bit early
 
 
 Thanks Adelheid and thanks Paul for your comment.
 
 I also like Alastair fishermen, Henk Terhell's 'Cormorants'
 composition and, although not particularly fond on macros, 
 Gianfranco's contribution.
 
 Regards,
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Re: Enablement!

2007-02-05 Thread Margus Männik
Well, my K10D likes my FA100-300 pretty much. IMO, better than Sigma DL 
70-300 (I have the legendary first version, that has macro only at 
300mm). Quite a capable lens fo the price I paid.

BR, Margus


Scott Loveless wrote:

A little birdie just dropped off a big lens (F100-300).  So I stuck
her on the PZ-1 to get a feel for the weight.
http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/PDMLPESO/photo#5027021358795001042
 I think this lens should have had a tripod collar.  Fortunately, I
like heftier rigs than most.

She looks nearly new, feels the way she should, and the glass is
clean.  Focusing is snappy on the PZ-1.  The *ist, on the other hand,
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Re: PESO - Snowless Shasta

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Davis
Totally like it! Foreground, cloud position and shape, nice.
If you'd like me to take one with snow on it and send it to you, let me
know. BG It's about three hours north of us.
We've driven over west a bit from the mountain to a lake and taken a
shot or two, but not from huge Lake Shasta it's self.

Jack

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I went to visit my father's home town last  October, I also
 wanted to 
 get some shots of Mt. Shasta. Scott Valley, where I  went, is NW of
 Shasta.
 
 So wouldn't you know it had been a very dry year  and there was
 practically 
 no snow? 
 
 Taking shots of Shasta was the only  time I went out of my way on
 that trip 
 to take some photographs just to take  some photographs. I had to
 find the lake 
 (not in town), drive around it and find  the private campground that
 I had 
 been told had a beach, pay an entrance fee,  and hike to the beach.
 Lots of 
 work. :-)
 
 
 Nothing special, a tourist  shot, but I did like the  cloud.
 
 http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/snowless.htm
 
 Comments,  welcome.
 
 I suppose a polarizer would have been a good idea, but I didn't 
 think of it 
 at the time.
 
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Re: Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

2007-02-05 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Roman,

Monday, February 5, 2007, 6:05:03 PM, you wrote:

 http://www.photodo.com/product_332.html

 In anticipation of the new DA* lenses major Pentax retailer in Estonia
 has dropped the price for older FA and FA J lenses by 40%. Does anyone
 have an example photos made with this 28-105 lense I'm planning to 
 purchase. A comments from your personal experience using this lense 
 would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you.

It worked fine on my MZ-6, haven't used it on digital. All of these
were shot with the 28-105: http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/album/album.php?a=2
and this one also: http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/album/view.php?a=1i=4


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Re: Pentax SMC P-FA 28-105mm f/3.2-4.5 AL (IF)

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I had one of the FA28-105/3.2-4.5s that I used extensively with the  
*ist DS in 2005. I didn't have issues with focusing (it was neither  
better or worse than average for AF lenses on the *ist DS) and found  
it to be a very good performer most of the time. It is not at its  
best wide open, and particularly wide open at focal length settings  
above 70mm. Stopped down to my usual range around f/5.6-f/8, it did  
very well. Manual focusing is quick and positive. The Pentax supplied  
lens hood is overly large and inefficient for the DSLR format ... I  
replaced it with a Kalt generic metal screw-in normal lens hood  
that is a lot more compact and doesn't get in the way so much of the  
time.

Here are some examples I posed to my Picture A Week sets in 2005 and  
2006.

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/14.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/14p.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/15.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/17.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/18.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/23.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/25.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/28.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/30.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/39p.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/25.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW6/36.htm

I sold the lens either late in 2005 or in Spring of 2006 as I found  
I'd moved on to other lenses (better quality primes) as my mainstay  
by then.

Godfrey

On Feb 5, 2007, at 8:05 AM, Roman wrote:

 http://www.photodo.com/product_332.html

 In anticipation of the new DA* lenses major Pentax retailer in Estonia
 has dropped the price for older FA and FA J lenses by 40%. Does anyone
 have an example photos made with this 28-105 lense I'm planning to
 purchase. A comments from your personal experience using this lense
 would be greatly appreciated.


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RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Tim Øsleby
I don't get this. What matters (for me) is that the DA does a similar or
better job. The reasons why they do are as interesting as the popes new
beard IMO. 
But that's just me ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J.
C. O'Connell
Sent: 4. februar 2007 02:53
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?

I think you are mistaken because full frame
lenses only need to have 2/3 the resolution
to MATCH/BEAT DA lenses in terms of overall resolution.
you guys act like pentax and everybody else
just discovered how to make fine lenses and
that all the old FF ones on FF cant beat best new DA
ones on aps. I say that on full frame some of them can
and will BEAT the best APS lenses on APS due to
the format size difference alone.
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:22 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?


I'm talking about the DA 12-24, which is a very fine optic and  
probably better than both the K and A 15 primes.The DA 14/2.8 is  
almost certainly even better.  I'm also talking about  the upcoming  
DA* lenses, which may well be better than any of the FA lenses ever  
produced. They will certainly be better performers in terms of  
autofocus. The past is history.
Paul
On Feb 3, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 On 04/02/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would have to auto crop to 10 t0 12 megapixels to make me and 
 other DA lens owners happy.

 If Pentax had delivered a 6-8MP body with the functionality of the 
 K10D but significantly improved noise, DR and sensitivity over the 
 existing 6MP bodies do you think it would have been the short term hit

 that the K10D has?

 Do you seriously think that you're getting the best from every pixel 
 using DA zooms on the 10MP sensor? I don't, let alone the the general 
 edge unsharpness I've noticed from many of the new WA lenses even the 
 CA often skews over four plus final image pixels. I'd be far happier 
 with a larger sensor and some way to effectively use the legacy APS 
 lenses to provide 6-8MP because really I think that's pretty much the 
 limit of the image quality that they deliver. Granted my assessments 
 are based on my one DA lens (which most often attracts rave reviews) 
 and full res RAW and JPG sample shots from other new DA lenses by 
 others.

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On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb
This is not office friendly (language warning).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvvvQ0ic7s

Have fun

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Entertaining selling my K 200/2.5

2007-02-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
I'm considering selling my K 200/2.5.  It is KEH bargain shape - the
sliding lens hood is not in very good condition.  I just recently sent
it in for CLA and the glass and mechanical functionality is very good.
Just looks used.  I thought I'd check and see if there is interest on
the list or not.

I'm finding that I just rarely use it and have need for a few other
lenses that I would use much more.

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Re: OT: Web hosting horrors

2007-02-05 Thread Boris Liberman
Mark, I cannot be certain if it is of any importance, but now I can 
successfully access your pages from my home PC. Nice tree by the way.

Boris


Mark Roberts wrote:
 OK, after 24-or-so hours of work I have my web site up and running on a 
 new host... mostly. My former host lost connectivity on Monday and I 
 grew increasing suspicious about how they were handling it... until I 
 lost all patience yesterday and signed up with a new hosting company.
 
 All that's left is for me to get the web message board/forum (Mimple 
 Machines Forum - http://www.simplemachines.org/) up and running. I'll 
 probably need to call their tech support for that tomorrow because I'm 
 not a PHP/MySQL expert, to put it mildly.
 
 And now, just to be *slightly* on-topic, here's a new PESO, the latest 
 version of my Live Oak BW conversion:
 http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm
 
 Not quite there yet, but I find it's best to make some changes and then 
 wait a couple of days before looking at it and deciding if I like it or 
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Re: PESO - Snowless Shasta

2007-02-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2007 10:23:42 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Totally like it!  Foreground, cloud position and shape, nice.
If you'd like me to take one with  snow on it and send it to you, let me
know. BG It's about three hours  north of us.
We've driven over west a bit from the mountain to a lake and  taken a
shot or two, but not from huge Lake Shasta it's  self.

Jack

=
Thanks, Jack.

Hehehehehe. I think I  might go up to Etna again next summer or early fall 
and I will try again. But  the way it is going probably be as little snow then 
too. Hehehe, thanks for the  offer.

Marnie aka Doe :-)




---  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I went to visit my father's home town  last  October, I also
 wanted to 
 get some shots of Mt.  Shasta. Scott Valley, where I  went, is NW of
 Shasta.
  
 So wouldn't you know it had been a very dry year  and there  was
 practically 
 no snow? 
 
 Taking shots of  Shasta was the only  time I went out of my way on
 that trip  
 to take some photographs just to take  some photographs. I had  to
 find the lake 
 (not in town), drive around it and find   the private campground that
 I had 
 been told had a beach, pay an  entrance fee,  and hike to the beach.
 Lots of 
 work.  :-)
 
 
 Nothing special, a tourist  shot, but I did  like the  cloud.
 
  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/snowless.htm
 
  Comments,  welcome.
 
 I suppose a polarizer would have been  a good idea, but I didn't 
 think of it 
 at the time.
  
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Re: PESO - Snowless Shasta

2007-02-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
It is a nice shot, nonetheless.  The location is quite nice.  A bit
more dramatic sky or lighting wouldn't hurt, but under the
circumstances, you did good.

-- 
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Monday, February 5, 2007, 9:03:09 AM, you wrote:

Eac When I went to visit my father's home town last  October, I also wanted to
Eac get some shots of Mt. Shasta. Scott Valley, where I  went, is NW of Shasta.

Eac So wouldn't you know it had been a very dry year  and there was practically
Eac no snow? 

Eac Taking shots of Shasta was the only  time I went out of my way on that trip
Eac to take some photographs just to take  some photographs. I had to find the 
lake
Eac (not in town), drive around it and find  the private campground that I had
Eac been told had a beach, pay an entrance fee,  and hike to the beach. Lots of
Eac work. :-)


Eac Nothing special, a tourist  shot, but I did like the  cloud.

Eac http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/snowless.htm

Eac Comments,  welcome.

Eac I suppose a polarizer would have been a good idea, but I didn't  think of 
it
Eac at the time.

Eac Marnie aka Doe  





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Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/5/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is not office friendly (language warning).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvvvQ0ic7s

 Have fun

Good stuff.  This one is almost as amusing (warning: Pentax content).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSnc36z4m0A

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Re: Entertaining selling my K 200/2.5

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm interested but I probably can't afford it, what are you asking?

Bruce Dayton wrote:
 I'm considering selling my K 200/2.5.  It is KEH bargain shape - the
 sliding lens hood is not in very good condition.  I just recently sent
 it in for CLA and the glass and mechanical functionality is very good.
 Just looks used.  I thought I'd check and see if there is interest on
 the list or not.

 I'm finding that I just rarely use it and have need for a few other
 lenses that I would use much more.

   


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Re: DA 50-200

2007-02-05 Thread Bill Lawlor
I rarely used long lenses but I got a K10D a DA18-55, DA 50-200, FA43Ltd and
a F28/2.8 and went to India for the month of January. I found myself using
the 28 and the 50-200 more than the other lenses. I am very pleased with the
50-200 results. It is very sharp, and with SR, the 5.6 limit isn't
important. I usually left SR on and shot at 8.0. Good results at all focal
lengths.
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Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
That is funny.  Have you posted it to a Canon list?

William Robb wrote:
 This is not office friendly (language warning).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvvvQ0ic7s

 Have fun

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RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I guess I wasn't clear enough, the DAs do a similar
or better job than many FF lenses, but ONLY on APS cameras. Point is
when you
go to full frame, a lens only has to be 2/3 as
sharp as a DA lens is in lp/mm resolution to
match the DA lens on APS for resolution. And I bet there are
a whole bunch of PK FF lenses out there that are more than
2/3 the sharpness of the best DA lenses in existance. These
lenses will work better on full frame than the best DA
lenses on APS in terms of final image resolution. I hate
to use the expression, but DA lenses are kinda like
turd polishing, yes they squeeze the most possible out
of APS format but will never match what is/will be possible with
full frame with even lower optical quality lenses that have
more than 2/3 the resolution of the best DA lenses.

jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim Øsleby
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 1:33 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?


I don't get this. What matters (for me) is that the DA does a similar or
better job. The reasons why they do are as interesting as the popes new
beard IMO. 
But that's just me ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
J. C. O'Connell
Sent: 4. februar 2007 02:53
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?

I think you are mistaken because full frame
lenses only need to have 2/3 the resolution
to MATCH/BEAT DA lenses in terms of overall resolution.
you guys act like pentax and everybody else
just discovered how to make fine lenses and
that all the old FF ones on FF cant beat best new DA
ones on aps. I say that on full frame some of them can
and will BEAT the best APS lenses on APS due to
the format size difference alone.
jco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Paul Stenquist
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:22 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?


I'm talking about the DA 12-24, which is a very fine optic and  
probably better than both the K and A 15 primes.The DA 14/2.8 is  
almost certainly even better.  I'm also talking about  the upcoming  
DA* lenses, which may well be better than any of the FA lenses ever  
produced. They will certainly be better performers in terms of  
autofocus. The past is history.
Paul
On Feb 3, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

 On 04/02/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would have to auto crop to 10 t0 12 megapixels to make me and
 other DA lens owners happy.

 If Pentax had delivered a 6-8MP body with the functionality of the
 K10D but significantly improved noise, DR and sensitivity over the 
 existing 6MP bodies do you think it would have been the short term hit

 that the K10D has?

 Do you seriously think that you're getting the best from every pixel
 using DA zooms on the 10MP sensor? I don't, let alone the the general 
 edge unsharpness I've noticed from many of the new WA lenses even the 
 CA often skews over four plus final image pixels. I'd be far happier 
 with a larger sensor and some way to effectively use the legacy APS 
 lenses to provide 6-8MP because really I think that's pretty much the 
 limit of the image quality that they deliver. Granted my assessments 
 are based on my one DA lens (which most often attracts rave reviews) 
 and full res RAW and JPG sample shots from other new DA lenses by 
 others.

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 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: PESO - Snowless Shasta

2007-02-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/5/2007 11:08:19 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is a nice shot,  nonetheless.  The location is quite nice.  A bit
more dramatic sky  or lighting wouldn't hurt, but under the
circumstances, you did  good.

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Re: Where Lightroom stores settings, data etc

2007-02-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
Sorry Tim, but I didn't know where you were going with the 1500 slides.

I've seen some recommendations in the area of 20 to 30 minutes, as to the 
timing for a continuous showing of slides alone. If they are to support an 
oral presentation longer timing would be ok.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Where Lightroom stores settings, data etc


Thanks for the consideration on behalf on the audience Ken ;-)

The keyword in the first sentence is _based_ on 1500 pictures. I've
already got 1100 in the bin, more will follow. Don't worry. It's a lot of
crap.
What I tried to say is that Lightroom is efficient for sorting files, and
thereby throwing files away.

I assume this reply is a waste of bandwidth. Something tells me that your
post was a tongue in cheek reply.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Kenneth Waller
Sent: 4. februar 2007 21:46
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Where Lightroom stores settings, data etc

Tim, I'm not Godfrey either but unless you're trying to put your audience to

sleep, you better cut the size of your slideshow down or go thru them
really, really fast.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: Where Lightroom stores settings, data etc


 I'm not Godfrey, but I'm using Lightroom right now preparing a large
 slideshow, based on 1500 pictures. It is efficient sorting the images, and
 tagging them with meta tags. They are well displayed, with a nice compare
 function. After I realised the importance of free HD space it is fast
 enough
 for my purpose. The converting tools are efficient, with a few bonus
 tools,
 but I don't really know how I feel about the new Curve tool.

 The major plus is that making a good workflow feels natural. All
 significant
 tools are within reach, and the way they are organised is good. They kind
 of
 asks for being used in a workflow friendly order if you get the idea.

 When the final version is released I have no problem seeing myself making
 the final slideshow inside Lightroom. Haven't used it for printing, my
 printer is out of ink, and my budget is low at the moment. The final
 version
 will have cloning and healing tools (not healing brush, but something
 similar). The final version will also have non flash web tools. The slide
 function in the beta is no good, but what I've seen of the final edition
 makes me pretty sure it will do a good job.

 I have never used the full version CS, so I can't compare directly. My
 only
 PS reference is Elements, and I can say that Lightroom is way better than
 that. From my point of view it is worth every dime.


 Tim
 Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


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 Subject: Re: Where Lightroom stores settings, data etc

 Hi Thibouille,

 On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 10:00:00 +0100, Thibouille wrote:

1/ As I understand, when Lightroom imports data it copies it to it own
storage area (which means I'd beter have anough space for it).

 I think you get the choice, either create copies (taking up much space)
 or reference an existing archive of images (no copy done).

And I can backup the originals elsewhere once the import is done.

 Don't see why not :-)

2/ Lightroom also stores previews, its database etc...

 Have not used lightroom itself yet, but if it is anything like the CS/CS2
 Bridge it probably has 'caches' for previews and a few other things.
 These speed up viewing significantly (after the 1st time) but the
 contents is dispensible, when deleted the next 'view' wil be slower.


Can I ask Lightroom to store *everything* on another drive?
It'd make things a lot easier if any OS/apps reinstallation is
needed.

 The thumbnail cache for CS/CS2 can be placed anywhere you like
 and I expect Lightroom to be the same in that respect. It is not that
 important since the info will be recreated automatically when needed
 after it has been deleted (just takes time then).

 Another thing is the RAW conversion information, that is often kept
 in a database (specific to the RAW conversion application).

 With DNG however, it is common to store that info IN the DNG itself.

 That has the advantage that multiple copies of CS (or Lightroom)
 automatically share the same inf, and DNG's copied to backup
 storage still have all conversion info with them ...

It could even be used to share the dtabase betwenn computers ...

 Yes, but having it with the DNG's is even better I think ...

Is that correct ?

 I guess most of your assumptions are, but will wait for Godders
 to chime in, he seems to be one of the few people on the list
 that has actually used the beta to some extent ...

 For me, I am still trying to decide if Lightroom is the way to go now,
 or 

Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: On the subject of Canons


 That is funny.  Have you posted it to a Canon list?

It was posted to the Canon forum at dpreview. We'll see how long before Phil 
pulls it for denigrating his sponsor.

William Robb

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvvvQ0ic7s

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Re: PESO:Swiss National Museum park view

2007-02-05 Thread ann sanfedele
Ping! thanks !
if I only had a brain

doesn't look like Markus applied either though - at least not on my monitor

ann

P. J. Alling wrote:

Cyanotype.

ann sanfedele wrote:
  

LIke the photo - looks black and white to me -- not sepia toned.   Or 
did you just mean should I sepia tone it?

You ask should it be more blue... sepia is a brownish tint - is this a 
lost in translation thing? :)

I forgot the name for the blue toner stuff
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Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread P. J. Alling
That one's just bizarre.

Scott Loveless wrote:
 On 2/5/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 This is not office friendly (language warning).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvvvQ0ic7s

 Have fun

 
 Good stuff.  This one is almost as amusing (warning: Pentax content).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSnc36z4m0A

   


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Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
When there exists a FF Pentax digital SLR to work with, I'll  
consider what turd to polish and whether it looks more lovely.

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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread Peter McIntosh
This is the sort of info I was looking for.  I probably should have 
added that I was interested in 35mm lenses.  As I thought, not a recent 
thing.   

Interesting - I hadn't come across the wayback machine before.  Quite 
handy!  Many thanks!

Ciao,

Peter

P. J. Alling wrote:
 Normally I'd point to Monahans Medium Format Megasite, but it seems to 
 have been abandoned.  It maintained the * Third Party Lenses Resource 
 Megasite Home Page with *quite a few legacy pages about 3rd party 35mm 
 lenses.  I was able to find it in the Wayback Machine and here is it's 
 2004 listing of Hoya Lenses

Third Party Lenses from the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s
  (sorted by brand, focal length, f/stop)


 Brand  Focal (mm) f/stop Yr  List $   1998 $   Diaphragm   Lens Type
Length

 hoya28   2.8 79$160 $380   autowide HMC
 hoya35   2.8 79$130 $308   autowide HMC
 hoya   135   2.8 79$130 $308   autotele HMC
 hoya   200   3.5 79$172 $408   autotele HMC
 hoya 100-300   5 79$398 $944   autozoom HMC
 hoya 25-42   3.5 79$500   $1,186   autozoom
 hoya 35-105  3.5 77$450   $1,246   autozoom
 hoya 70-150  3.8 79$270 $640   autozoom
 hoya 70-210  3.8 77$450   $1,246   autozoom HMC
 hoya 80-2004 79$295 $700   autozoom



 Adam Maas wrote:
   
 I understand that there were a few Hoya lenses back in the 70's. Nothing 
 special, but not crap either.

 -Adam

 Peter McIntosh wrote:
   
 
 Hi,

 Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not filters - lenses.  
 Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and yahoo-ed, but to no 
 avail.

 Ciao,

 Peter in Western Sydney

 
   
   
 


   


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RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
But you wont be able to if you traded away all your Pentax
FF lenses for DA lenses will you without buying them
all over again!
jco

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When there exists a FF Pentax digital SLR to work with, I'll  
consider what turd to polish and whether it looks more lovely.

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PESO - Farquhars Lane

2007-02-05 Thread Adam Maas
http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/379303184/

larger, and for the flickr-phobic:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/379303184_f52da1c04d_b.jpg

This was the F801, 20/2.8 AF and Silvertone [EMAIL PROTECTED] in FG-7.

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RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Bob W
The Pope has a new beard? Why am I always the last to know?

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 Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?
 
 I don't get this. What matters (for me) is that the DA does a 
 similar or
 better job. The reasons why they do are as interesting as the 
 popes new
 beard IMO. 
 But that's just me ;-)
 
 
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RE: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread Bob W
I had a Hoya 135mm lens in K-mount in the early 1980s. It wasn't crap,
it was shit. 

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 I understand that there were a few Hoya lenses back in the 
 70's. Nothing 
 special, but not crap either.
 
 -Adam
 
 Peter McIntosh wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not 
 filters - lenses.  
  Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and 
 yahoo-ed, but to no 
  avail.
  
  Ciao,
  
  Peter in Western Sydney
  
 
 
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PESO - First Day of School

2007-02-05 Thread J and K Messervy
Our four year old (I'm nearly five Dad!) had her very first day of school 
yesterday.

This was captured in an unguarded moment with the M50mm f1.7 wide open.  I 
have also softened it a bit in photoshop.

http://tinyurl.com/2leo5e

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Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Davis
Too bad you'll never know how much fun this is creating (for me)
amongst a nest of Canon users and a fever pitched Canon dealer.

THANK YOU!!

Smiling Jack
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RE: K10D @ ISO 3200

2007-02-05 Thread Jens Bladt
Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a lot.
Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so much, I cant
take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I shoot Raw)DGN
it's probably OK to brighten up later.
Thanks anywasy for answering, Boris.
Regards

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Nytarkort / Greeting Card:
http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html

http://www.jensbladt.dk
+45 56 63 77 11
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Skype: jensbladt248

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Emne: Re: K10D @ ISO 3200


The rumor has it that in the future Pentax will release a camera micro
code that will enable both ISO 50 and ISO 3200 'cause one of the beta
versions had it. Currently we're confined to 100-1600 range.

Cheers.

On 2/5/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have heard ther's a setting somewhere that will allow for exposing
 according to ISO 3200.
 I can't find anything in the manual.  Is this true? How?
 Regards
 Jens

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Re: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/2/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I had a Hoya 135mm lens in K-mount in the early 1980s. It wasn't crap,
it was shit. 

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Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/2/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:


 That is funny.  Have you posted it to a Canon list?

It was posted to the Canon forum at dpreview. We'll see how long before Phil 
pulls it for denigrating his sponsor.

I just put it up on the EOS list ;-)

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Re: More HDR heavy handedness on dpreview

2007-02-05 Thread Dario Bonazza

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Subject: More HDR heavy handedness on dpreview


 K10D HDR
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=21629339
 
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Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide  
whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time.

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Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/2/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

This is not office friendly (language warning).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvvvQ0ic7s

Have fun

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Re: PESO - Farquhars Lane

2007-02-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/5/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/379303184/

 larger, and for the flickr-phobic:

 http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/379303184_f52da1c04d_b.jpg

 This was the F801, 20/2.8 AF and Silvertone [EMAIL PROTECTED] in FG-7.

 -Adam

Cool photo.  Did you get her number?  g  You photograph quite a bit
in that area.  The flatiron seems prominent in a lot of your work.

How do you like the Edwal?  I've never tried it, but I'm always
looking for something new and exciting.

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Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/05/07 3:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide
 whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time.

Of course everybody here thinks so, but saying so will turn everybody off
too, Godfrey :-).  It's just a fun discussion, and nothing more.

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Re: K10D @ ISO 3200

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt
Subject: RE: K10D @ ISO 3200


 Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a 
 lot.
 Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so much, I 
 cant
 take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I shoot Raw)DGN
 it's probably OK to brighten up later.

You might find that this works farily well. I just did a QD shot of my 
living room at ISO1600, with 1 stop of under exposure keyed into the 
exposure comp.
The results were really noisy, so I ran the file through a heavy handed 
noise reduction.
It doesn't look quite real anymore, but if I had to shoot that way, I expect 
I would spend more time perfecting the NR I applied.
Kodak (through Applied Science Fiction) has a PS plug in called Digital Gem, 
which works surprisingly well for removing noise.

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Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb

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From: Bob W 
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?


The Pope has a new beard? Why am I always the last to know?

Yer probably an Anglican.

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Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb

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From: K.Takeshita
Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?



 If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide
 whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time.

 Of course everybody here thinks so, but saying so will turn everybody 
 off
 too, Godfrey :-).  It's just a fun discussion, and nothing more.

JCO is involved. Fun is guaranteed.

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Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?


 But you wont be able to if you traded away all your Pentax
 FF lenses for DA lenses will you without buying them
 all over again!

You are, of course, presuming that there is a 24x36mm sensor in a K mount 
camera in the future.
So far, the DA lenses that I have used have been better lenses on digital 
than their FF cousins. This tells me that if I want the best I can get 
right now, DA lenses are the best option.
The future will look out for itself, and I'll reckon with it when I need to.

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Re: K10D @ ISO 3200

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

 Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a
 lot. Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so  
 much, I
 cant take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I  
 shoot Raw)DGN
 it's probably OK to brighten up later.

Whatever did you do when you were shooting with 35mm film? Any color  
film over ASA 800 is pretty much crap, and even ASA 400 is crap when  
you get to an 11x14 inch print.

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Re: PESO - Farquhars Lane

2007-02-05 Thread Adam Maas
Scott Loveless wrote:
 On 2/5/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://flickr.com/photos/mawz/379303184/

 larger, and for the flickr-phobic:

 http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/379303184_f52da1c04d_b.jpg

 This was the F801, 20/2.8 AF and Silvertone [EMAIL PROTECTED] in FG-7.

 -Adam

 Cool photo.  Did you get her number?  g  You photograph quite a bit
 in that area.  The flatiron seems prominent in a lot of your work.
 
 How do you like the Edwal?  I've never tried it, but I'm always
 looking for something new and exciting.
 

I work just around the corner from the Gooderham Flatiron, in fact I was 
just walking out of the Wendy's while on lunch when I shot this.

The Edwal is interesting. I'm not entirely sold on it, but it's the only 
way to get workable results at 800 from APX400/Silvertone 400 that I've 
found. Not sure if I'll get another bottle though, the tonality isn't up 
to Rodinal.

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MARK! Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Tom C
William Robb wrote:

The future will look out for itself, and I'll reckon with it when I need 
to.

:-)


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From: J. C. O'Connell
Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday?


  But you wont be able to if you traded away all your Pentax
  FF lenses for DA lenses will you without buying them
  all over again!

You are, of course, presuming that there is a 24x36mm sensor in a K mount
camera in the future.
So far, the DA lenses that I have used have been better lenses on digital
than their FF cousins. This tells me that if I want the best I can get
right now, DA lenses are the best option.
The future will look out for itself, and I'll reckon with it when I need 
to.

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Re: PESO - Farquhars Lane

2007-02-05 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/5/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I work just around the corner from the Gooderham Flatiron, in fact I was
 just walking out of the Wendy's while on lunch when I shot this.

 The Edwal is interesting. I'm not entirely sold on it, but it's the only
 way to get workable results at 800 from APX400/Silvertone 400 that I've
 found. Not sure if I'll get another bottle though, the tonality isn't up
 to Rodinal.

Most of mine are processed in HC-110 or D-76.  I really prefer the
D-76, but the HC-110 seems to work a little better for pushing the
film.  I played around with Ilfosol at one time, and really liked it,
but I don't shoot enough slow film to justify keeping it around.  It
doesn't keep well and I found that I had to frequently increase my dev
times.

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Re: PESO:the gearwheel

2007-02-05 Thread Stephen Moore
Markus Maurer wrote:

 Part of an old water barrage for the river Limmat in Zurich are some nice
 looking gearwheels:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5540576size=lg (251kb)
 

Markus, I do like this a lot: the interplay of light, shadow and color,
as well as the fine detail (cobwebs, etc.). Good eye!

There's something kinda...uh...*Stenquistian* about it, too.  ;-)

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RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread Bob W
 
 
 The Pope has a new beard? Why am I always the last to know?
 
 Yer probably an Anglican.
 

I'm half Catholic. They should at least tell me about his moustache.

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Re: PESO - First Day of School

2007-02-05 Thread Bruce Dayton
A very poignant moment caught.  I like your presentation, too.  Nice
work!

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Monday, February 5, 2007, 12:47:06 PM, you wrote:

JaKM Our four year old (I'm nearly five Dad!) had her very first day of school
JaKM yesterday.

JaKM This was captured in an unguarded moment with the M50mm f1.7 wide open.  I
JaKM have also softened it a bit in photoshop.

JaKM http://tinyurl.com/2leo5e

JaKM Comments and critique welcome.

JaKM Cheers

JaKM James Messervy 





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Re: PAW 2007 - 05 - GDG

2007-02-05 Thread Peter Lacus
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/05.htm

hmm, my notebook display is 1024x768 so I can see the (bigger) picture 
in two parts. Upper part is not my cup of tea (looks overexposed and 
blurry in the corners), but one PgDn later things look quite 
different. So all I can say is that I sorta like the lower part. ;-)

Cheers,

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Re: On the subject of Canons

2007-02-05 Thread Norm Baugher
Welcome to Santa Monica...
Norm

William Robb wrote:
 This is not office friendly (language warning).

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmvvvQ0ic7s

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PESO - Another sunset - plus 20%

2007-02-05 Thread John Coyle
Thanks for the comments, guys.  As suggested by Godfrey, I've adjusted the 
image to lighten the foreground.
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/IMGP4776A.jpg

I'd forgotten to include the technical details, for those who are 
interested:
Pentax *ist-D, Sigma 18-35/3.5-4.5 at 18mm and f4.5, 1/60sec @ 200ASA.
Levels adjusted, cropped and perspective corrected, USM at 100%, radius 1 
and threshold 0:  shadows lightened by 20% and highlights cut back by 12% in 
Version A.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia 

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Re: K10D @ ISO 3200

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Davis
I'm looking forward only to the 50.

J
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash
 photography a
  lot. Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so
  
  much, I
  cant take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I  
  shoot Raw)DGN
  it's probably OK to brighten up later.
 
 Whatever did you do when you were shooting with 35mm film? Any color 
 
 film over ASA 800 is pretty much crap, and even ASA 400 is crap when 
 
 you get to an 11x14 inch print.
 
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RE: Hoya lenses

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I cant comment on that one, but I think hoya HMC
and tokina RMC lenses are the same thing and I have
several Hoya HMC/ Tokina RMC lenses that are excellent. They made
a really good 28-85 F4, 35-105 F3.5 and 100-300 F5.6
that were identical looking to the tokina RMC versions
and like I said, excellent (when stopped down a little bit like
nearly all zoom lenses). I have had them in both M42 and PK
mounts. These date from early 80's just before the Tokina
AT-X series was launched.
jco

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Bob W
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Hoya lenses


I had a Hoya 135mm lens in K-mount in the early 1980s. It wasn't crap,
it was shit. 

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Adam Maas
 Sent: 05 February 2007 14:50
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 Subject: Re: Hoya lenses
 
 I understand that there were a few Hoya lenses back in the
 70's. Nothing 
 special, but not crap either.
 
 -Adam
 
 Peter McIntosh wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Does anyone have any information on Hoya lenses?  Not
 filters - lenses.
  Specifically ones with K mounts.  I've googled and
 yahoo-ed, but to no
  avail.
  
  Ciao,
  
  Peter in Western Sydney
  
 
 
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Sensor cleaning

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
Does anybody know if and where this thing (called Tatamy Stick in Japan) is
sold in North America?

http://shop.pentax.jp/shop/goods/goods.aspx?goods=39357

It is made (offered) by Pentax and used by their Service Dep't when dust is
sticky to be removed by normal DR action.
People who used it report that it removes oily dust etc very easily w/o
risk.
Not that I am keenly interested in (I have not had any occasion to require
this yet), I am curious if anybody is selling this outside of Japan.

Ken


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RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-05 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Your missing the point once again, a FF camera
wont need all new lenses to beat the best DA/APS
camera combinations. thats the whole advantage of
FF, its nowhere near as critical on lens quality
as APS is to get same or better quality than best
aps possible. Of course better lenses wont hurt,
but I doubt that a lot of the old FF lenses can
even be signifigantly bettered today. (unlike where
they can signifigantly improve a lens vs. FF version by making
its image circle smaller like they are doing on DA
lenses ).
jco

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If a new camera that requires new lenses comes out, I'll decide  
whether to buy it and whatever new lenses I need for it at that time.

G


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Re: K10D @ ISO 3200

2007-02-05 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 01:27:22PM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
  Darned - I do lots of ISO 3200 shots. I don't like flash photography a
  lot. Not pretty - and it disturbs the subject a lot. Sometimes so  
  much, I
  cant take pictures. I guess I could underexpose by one stop. If I  
  shoot Raw)DGN
  it's probably OK to brighten up later.
 
 Whatever did you do when you were shooting with 35mm film? Any color  
 film over ASA 800 is pretty much crap, and even ASA 400 is crap when  
 you get to an 11x14 inch print.

Portra 800 wasn't bad.  And I certtainly wouldn't call Kodak's 400 speed
version of Portra, or their previous 400 film (what was that?  Sentra 400?)
crap, even for large prints (assuming you think you can go larger than
8x12 from 35mm).

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PESO: my first BW

2007-02-05 Thread Peter Lacus
Hello,

I've been playing with some test pictures taken with FA-J 18-35 and this 
is the result - my first BW conversion:

http://picasaweb.google.com/placus/Pentax/photo?authkey=3N71J2CknRo#5028174232879468002

for comparison the color version is here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/placus/Pentax/photo?authkey=3N71J2CknRo#5028174941549071858

BTW: my opinion about this lens is changing constantly. Some pictures 
are actually very good (mostly in the 30-35mm range) but other are truly 
crap. Apparently my sample focuses past infinity which is at least 
clearly visible in the viewfinder.

Any opinions are welcome!


Cheers,

Peter

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Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread Gonz
Nah.  Try:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8

rg


On 2/4/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Still wimpy, Russian, (WWII), 50 caliber antitank rifle round.

 K.Takeshita wrote:
  On 2/03/07 5:38 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  More likely a .22
 
  Or baton round.
 
  A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-)
 
 
 
  Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow?
 
 
  Oh, wimpy ideas!
  Let's go big bang!
  7.62 NATO armour piercing incendiary round.  Nikon will take it (no?)
 
  Ken
 
 
 


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FS

2007-02-05 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
I've been too busy with grad school to be posting / responding on PDML.
But later I may get my priorities back in order. :)

Anyway, things have been outrageous lately on eBay.  Seen those 1.7x 
units?  WOW!
So, in that vein, I've got something that will go for a *reasonable* price.
A black MX, just a few signs of use, little brassing or other marks,
meter is accurate, and the shutter release lock is tight.
Comes with ever-ready case and a nice, very clean M50/2.
All this for a paltry
(a) $160 (includes US shipping) or
(b) $80 + a box of 8x10 Fuji Acros.

More in a couple of weeks.  I now need to begin reading
my systematic theology for Friday.  Only 400 pages to go ...
(There is little to compare with the excitement of reading theology,
apologetics, and philosophy.  G K Chesterson is my new favorite.)



Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.brendemuehl.net
http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com
http://philosophyforchristians.blogspot.com

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Re: DA 50-200

2007-02-05 Thread Peter Lacus
Bill,

 I rarely used long lenses but I got a K10D a DA18-55, DA 50-200, FA43Ltd and
 a F28/2.8 and went to India for the month of January. I found myself using
 the 28 and the 50-200 more than the other lenses. I am very pleased with the
 50-200 results. It is very sharp, and with SR, the 5.6 limit isn't
 important. I usually left SR on and shot at 8.0. Good results at all focal
 lengths.

may we see some pictures, please?

When I went to India in 1996 all I've had was my brother's Zenit 12XP 
with Helios 58/2 and 5 films. Coincidentally that was also the first 
time I've used a SLR. Few years later I bought my first Pentax, joined 
THE list and found the meaning of the word enablement. Now I am on six 
bodies, about dozen lenses and counting... ;-)

Cheers,

Peter

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Re: PAW 2007 - 05 - GDG

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/05.htm

Thanks to all who sent comments!

On Feb 5, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Peter Lacus wrote:
 hmm, my notebook display is 1024x768 so I can see the (bigger) picture
 in two parts. Upper part is not my cup of tea (looks overexposed and
 blurry in the corners), but one PgDn later things look quite
 different. So all I can say is that I sorta like the lower part. ;-)

LOL ... Just look at the smaller picture ... That's why I post both  
sizes. ;-)

G

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Re: PESO - Another sunset - plus 20%

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That rendering does a better job, IMO.
Good stuff!

G

On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:03 PM, John Coyle wrote:

 http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/IMGP4776A.jpg
 Pentax *ist-D, Sigma 18-35/3.5-4.5 at 18mm and f4.5, 1/60sec @ 200ASA.


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Re: PESO: my first BW

2007-02-05 Thread Jack Davis
Fairly powerful image. Sky suits the contrast and subject particularly
well.
Print has a slightly scratchy feel about it. If it's your chosen
style, I think it works nicely with this subject.
Prefer the BW.

Jack
--- Peter Lacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've been playing with some test pictures taken with FA-J 18-35 and
 this 
 is the result - my first BW conversion:
 

http://picasaweb.google.com/placus/Pentax/photo?authkey=3N71J2CknRo#5028174232879468002
 
 for comparison the color version is here:
 

http://picasaweb.google.com/placus/Pentax/photo?authkey=3N71J2CknRo#5028174941549071858
 
 BTW: my opinion about this lens is changing constantly. Some pictures
 
 are actually very good (mostly in the 30-35mm range) but other are
 truly 
 crap. Apparently my sample focuses past infinity which is at least 
 clearly visible in the viewfinder.
 
 Any opinions are welcome!
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Peter
 
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Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns?
That should do, period :-).

Ken

On 2/05/07 5:52 PM, Gonz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nah.  Try:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8
 
 rg
 
 
 On 2/4/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Still wimpy, Russian, (WWII), 50 caliber antitank rifle round.
 
 K.Takeshita wrote:
 On 2/03/07 5:38 PM, mike wilson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On 04/02/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 More likely a .22
 
 Or baton round.
 
 A BB from a modified air rifle perhaps? ;-)

 
 Sucker arrow from a toy crossbow?

 
 Oh, wimpy ideas!
 Let's go big bang!
 7.62 NATO armour piercing incendiary round.  Nikon will take it (no?)


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Words, music and pictures

2007-02-05 Thread Bob W
While surfing I came across Tom Stoddart's site again - I haven't
looked at it for a while. Stoddart is an English photojournalist of
the very highest calibre, and you're probably familiar with some of
his photos, but if you haven't seen his website it's well worth a
detour.

There's some gut-wrenching stuff.

http://www.tomstoddart.com/

I've met him a couple of times. He's a Leica M user and the last time
I met him was when I went to an outdoor exhibition he had a few years
ago. I was carrying my M4-2 and our rangefinders met across a crowded
exhibition space... He's very approachable and friendly, and we
chatted for at least half an hour. But the things he's seen 
photographed are unbelievable. I think he's of the same calibre as
Nachtwey and Salgado.

Bob


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Re: PESO: my first BW

2007-02-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The BW has a lot more character compared to the color rendering in  
this instance. Nice job: I like the deep tones.

I've heard rather variable comments about the FA-J 18-35.

G

On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Peter Lacus wrote:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/placus/Pentax/photo? 
 authkey=3N71J2CknRo#5028174232879468002

 for comparison the color version is here:

 http://picasaweb.google.com/placus/Pentax/photo? 
 authkey=3N71J2CknRo#5028174941549071858


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Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/05/07 6:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns?
 That should do, period :-).


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Re: combat photography

2007-02-05 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/05/07 6:03 PM, K.Takeshita, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is getting silly, but didn't I give you a salvo of 18 inch naval guns?
 That should do, period :-).

Just to satisfy the curiosity of some, and for the heck of it, this is a pic
of 18 inch cannon whose length is over 7 feet, reaching 42Km target with
330Kg powder charge.  Guns were installed on the world's largest battleship
Yamato.

http://www.biwa.ne.jp/~yamato/yamato.htm

Ken


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Re: PESO - First Day of School

2007-02-05 Thread Peter Lacus
 This was captured in an unguarded moment with the M50mm f1.7 wide open.  I 
 have also softened it a bit in photoshop.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2leo5e

good eye, James. And first class craftmanship as well.

BTW: I found your message right in the middle of a thread about whether 
are DA lenses sharper than FA and vice versa. Apparently, the winner is 
an old M lens, which needs to be softened digitally because it's too 
sharp even wide open. ;-)

Aren't those Pentax fifties amazing?

Cheers,

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