Re: PESO: Memories of spring

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/10/2007 7:21:19 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tomorrow I think I will look  into what Lightzone can do to this image. 

I've seen some video tutorials  about it. Looks as a program I could learn to
use. 
These tutorials made  me realise why I have this strong feelings against
editing in PS. It is all  about Layers. I get lost in them. The Layers
concept makes me loose the big  picture when editing. When editing on layers,
I don't see the impact of what  I do directly. At least not the way I have
been using them. 
Lightzone  seem to be more WYSIWYG. 

And there is no need to tell me. I know that PS  is more powerful than the
American President (at least it is more  intelligent), and that layers is the
best thing since whipped cream. I don't  need a powerful program. I need
something that sets _me_ in control.  


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain  Norwegian)

==
Layers are hard to get. I recommend a book for  understanding them. But, 
actually, you can edit a photo pretty well without  using layers at all. You 
just 
alter the background (what would be called the  background layer). Just be 
sure to save it with a new file name to not overwrite  the original. A 
selection 
tool would help you isolate the rock in that  particular photo. The magic want 
would be best.

Marnie aka  Doe   I am still learning various ins and outs of layers.  




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Re: PESO: fire spitter

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In a message dated 4/10/2007 1:05:56 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Fire  spitter:

http://leende.net/peso/20070409

Toine

===
Nice  shot. Very good timing. But, boy, he looks like he might set that 
valance over  him on fire.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  




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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

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In a message dated 4/10/2007 9:28:20 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As an aside question: my  cheapskate challenge entry:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/misc/cheapskate.html -  was it sufficiently 
unclattered?

Also comparing the above content  with, say, this  link:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/shfaim/content/IGP01583_large.html

can  someone please tell me what is wrong with the latter?

I am serious here.  I do want to establish a standard way to present my 
work that will be  acceptable to the widest crowd  possible.

Thanks.

Boris


Both are fine. I  prefer, personally, the second. Because I like dark 
backgrounds for photos on  the web. In real life I like off white mats for 
pictures, 
but on the web I find  dark backgrounds less distracting. In other words, if 
it was me I'd make your  gray darker. But that is me.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe  




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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Doug Franklin]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Updated

http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

I agree with what Godfrey says. I also like, or to be more precise, 
don't mind, writing HTML directly. As of recently I've found the 
PageBreeze editor to be the best tool for me. It allows WYSIWYG editing 
and direct HTML code editing with very easy interface.

However, I am too lazy and too disorganized to properly maintain all the 
necessary things.

Let me just notice that the last time I updated my web page before most 
recent "burst" was Sept 2006 and before that Mar 2005.

I most definitely like the Web tool that LightRoom has. I may want to 
take a closer look at customization as per Shel's comments.

As an aside question: my cheapskate challenge entry:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/misc/cheapskate.html - was it sufficiently 
unclattered?

Also comparing the above content with, say, this link:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/shfaim/content/IGP01583_large.html

can someone please tell me what is wrong with the latter?

I am serious here. I do want to establish a standard way to present my 
work that will be acceptable to the widest crowd possible.

Thanks.

Boris

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
>> ...  the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) ...
> 
> Shel,
> 
> I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
> X included TextEdit application for the "cheapskates" thread as what  
> I normally use to write HTML.
> 
> Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
> advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
> processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
> for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
> lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
> it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.
> 
> I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
> templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
> very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.
> 
> Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
> do it with good tools... ;-)
> 
> G
> 


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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> These tutorials made me realise why I have this strong feelings  
> against
> editing in PS. It is all about Layers. I get lost in them. The Layers
> concept makes me loose the big picture when editing. When editing  
> on layers,
> I don't see the impact of what I do directly. At least not the way  
> I have
> been using them.

Which begs the question: How have you been using Photoshop layers  
that you don't see the impact of what you do directly?

BTW, LightZone's operation is based on making adjustments using  
function modules and layering them on top of one another... It's just  
like using Adjustment Layers in Photoshop.

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Re: PESO: Columns in Black and White

[Mike Hamilton]

On 4/10/07, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't done a lot of black and white conversion but this one turned out 
> quite well (I think) - certainly a lot better than the original colour 
> version.
>
> Comments, plaudits, raspberries all accepted with thanks.
>
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/supera1000/PESO/photo?authkey=X7kmHo_6wyc#5051589714743686082
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/27zfax

I like it!  :)


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PESO: Columns in Black and White

[Brian Walters]

I haven't done a lot of black and white conversion but this one turned out 
quite well (I think) - certainly a lot better than the original colour version.

Comments, plaudits, raspberries all accepted with thanks.


http://picasaweb.google.com/supera1000/PESO/photo?authkey=X7kmHo_6wyc#5051589714743686082


http://tinyurl.com/27zfax


The Mint, an historic building in Sydney dating from the early 1800s - Pentax 
*istDS with Pentax DA 16-45 mm zoom lens at 40 mm, 1/350 sec, f11 and ISO 200.



Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia


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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Paul Stenquist]

My favorite hood swap is the Pentax Super Tak 135/3.5 metal hood on  
the FA 50/1.4. No vignetting on APS-C digital and superb protection.
Paul
On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:
>
>>> Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens.
>>> PH-SB
>>> on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:
>>>
>>> 
>
> That's good lookin', Cotty!
>
>> OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page
>> http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html
>
> I try to keep it simple:
>
> Pentax OEM hoods for DA14/2.8, DA50-200/4-5.6
> Olympus Zuiko 28/3.5 metal or B+W wide metal hood, 49mm thread, for
> DA21/3.2 Limited
> B+W normal metal hood, 49mm thread, for F35-70/3.5-4.5 Macro,
> FA28/2.8 and FA43/1.9 Limited
> B+W tele metal hood, 49mm thread, for DA70/2.4 Limited (FA77 Limited)
> Kalt normal metal hood, 58mm thread, for FA20-35/4
>
> All works without vignetting. These and some others in pictures:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-K10D-kit.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lenshood-lineup-1845.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lenshood-lineup-1784.jpg
>
> Godfrey
>
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Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs

[David Savage]

At 06:57 AM 11/04/2007, Digital Image Studio wrote:

>Dave is common as muck...


Oi!!!

But so true.

Cheers,

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RE: PESO: Memories of spring

[Tim Øsleby]

Tomorrow I think I will look into what Lightzone can do to this image. 

I've seen some video tutorials about it. Looks as a program I could learn to
use. 
These tutorials made me realise why I have this strong feelings against
editing in PS. It is all about Layers. I get lost in them. The Layers
concept makes me loose the big picture when editing. When editing on layers,
I don't see the impact of what I do directly. At least not the way I have
been using them. 
Lightzone seem to be more WYSIWYG. 

And there is no need to tell me. I know that PS is more powerful than the
American President (at least it is more intelligent), and that layers is the
best thing since whipped cream. I don't need a powerful program. I need
something that sets _me_ in control. 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
>
> K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in  
> Lightroom, nothing
> fancy or dramatic.
> Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software.

Very nice, Tim.

This is one I'd recommend rendering and dropping into PHotoshop or  
other image editor, then selectively darkening that rock just a bit.  
It's a little bit distracting.

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RE: PESO: Memories of spring

[Tim Øsleby]

I'll look into it. Trying to make the rock less distracting.  
This have made me realise I need to improve my editing skills. 


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Subject: Re: PESO: Memories of spring

In a message dated 4/10/2007 1:51:21 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Beautiful blossom form.  Could stand on its own isolated on a dark
homogeneous non-competing  background.

Jack


What he said. And, boy, did he  say it well -- a mouthful well.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

=


TØ> For a couple of weeks we had very  nice spring weather here. Now it is
TØ> pouring down again. So I thought  I'd better warm myself with a flower
TØ> picture I took. 
TØ>  (Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be
able  to
TØ> see it)

TØ> My first macro for a long long time, so it is  almost a debut ;-)
TØ> It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens  didn't produce more
flare.

TØ> Pentax glass rules!
TØ>  http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
TØ> K10D and  FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom,
nothing
TØ>  fancy or dramatic. 
TØ> Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same  software. 


TØ> Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated  ;-)


TØ> Tim Typo
TØ> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)  




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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Mike Hamilton]

On 4/10/07, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike Hamilton wrote:
>
> > For the DA 70, I use a Takumar 1:3.5/135 -- 1:5.6/200 hood.
> > For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood.
>
> Any part numberish things stamped/printed on them?

The data that's listed above is stamped in the hood, along with "Asahi
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Strap Lugs on K10D

[Mike Hamilton]

I've never been satisfied with the mounting of any strap on the SLRs
that I've owned.  With the K10D, I finally did something about it.

My main issue is the straps getting in the way when I'm holding the
camera.  Getting in the way of the SD card door, in the way of my
hands, when mounted on a tripod, etc...

Here's my solution (better described in pics than words)
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-1.jpg
http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/images/k10dstraplugs-2.jpg

The little keyrings are stolen from an old Canonet GIII QL17
rangefinder (not sure if they were original or not).  The strap is
from a LowePro TLZ1 bag that doesn't see much use anymore.
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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Doug Franklin]

Mike Hamilton wrote:

> For the DA 70, I use a Takumar 1:3.5/135 -- 1:5.6/200 hood.
> For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood.

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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Mike Hamilton]

On 4/10/07, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
>
> > Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB
> > on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:
> >
> > 
>
> OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page
>
> http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

For the DA 70, I use a Takumar 1:3.5/135 -- 1:5.6/200 hood.
For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood.

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

lol! I was taking blurry pictures long before I subscribed to this  
list...  :-)

G


On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:20 PM, Norm Baugher wrote:

> If it was blurry, I think you should pay Frank a royalty. I do.
> Norm
> (Frank, your Marlboro royalty payment will be paid at GFM)


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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

>> Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens.  
>> PH-SB
>> on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:
>>
>> 

That's good lookin', Cotty!

> OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page
> http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

I try to keep it simple:

Pentax OEM hoods for DA14/2.8, DA50-200/4-5.6
Olympus Zuiko 28/3.5 metal or B+W wide metal hood, 49mm thread, for  
DA21/3.2 Limited
B+W normal metal hood, 49mm thread, for F35-70/3.5-4.5 Macro,  
FA28/2.8 and FA43/1.9 Limited
B+W tele metal hood, 49mm thread, for DA70/2.4 Limited (FA77 Limited)
Kalt normal metal hood, 58mm thread, for FA20-35/4

All works without vignetting. These and some others in pictures:

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Pentax-K10D-kit.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lenshood-lineup-1845.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/lenshood-lineup-1784.jpg

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Re: PESO: fire spitter

[Rick Womer]

Great shot.  I hope those curtains are flame
retardant...

Rick

--- Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Dramatic shot, Toine.
> 
> -Brendan
> --- Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Fire spitter:
> > 
> > http://leende.net/peso/20070409
> > 
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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 4/10/2007 1:51:21 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Beautiful blossom form.  Could stand on its own isolated on a dark
homogeneous non-competing  background.

Jack


What he said. And, boy, did he  say it well -- a mouthful well.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

=


TØ> For a couple of weeks we had very  nice spring weather here. Now it is
TØ> pouring down again. So I thought  I'd better warm myself with a flower
TØ> picture I took. 
TØ>  (Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be
able  to
TØ> see it)

TØ> My first macro for a long long time, so it is  almost a debut ;-)
TØ> It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens  didn't produce more
flare.

TØ> Pentax glass rules!
TØ>  http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
TØ> K10D and  FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom,
nothing
TØ>  fancy or dramatic. 
TØ> Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same  software. 


TØ> Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated  ;-)


TØ> Tim Typo
TØ> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)  




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Re: Easter bestiary

[graywolf]

LOL!

Bob W wrote:
> Mountains, yes. We also have an Alp about 2-3 miles north of me:
> http://www.citiesofscience.co.uk/go/London/ContentPlace_1960.html
> 
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>  
> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of graywolf
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>>
>> Wow, now I am envious, here there are the mountains, but I 
>> have to drive 
>> an hour to find a decent store for anything you can not buy 
>> at Wal-Mart 
>> or the Grocery.
>>
>> -graywolf
>>
>>
>> Bob W wrote:
>>> One of the nice things about living here in Greenwich is 
>> that there is
>>> so much variety. I can cycle into Central London in about 
>> 30 minutes.
>>> It's less than 10k from here, yet I also have the river,
> heathland,
>>> parks, a farm!, Greenwich itself, markets, real countryside a few
>>> train stations away, the coast. It's incredibly varied. 
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Re: PESO: I can't wait

[ann sanfedele]

cbwaters wrote:

>http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/b/cbwaters/photo/GFM%20Roll%202%20052.jpg
>
>
>
>  
>
doesnt' come up for me on either browser :(

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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Fernando Terrazzino"
>> William Robb wrote:
>> > Hi:
>> > I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.


It's GONE!!

Thanks for all the great suggestions. I tried em all, and either my 
knowledge wasn't up to it, or the computer refused to do what I wanted.
Probably a combination of both.

Then, I remembered that I had a little program called Norton Commander 
sittong around, so I tried it, and success was mine.

Thanks again

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Norm Baugher]

If it was blurry, I think you should pay Frank a royalty. I do.
Norm
(Frank, your Marlboro royalty payment will be paid at GFM)

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Uh huh.
>
> I hung an 11x14 print made from the Treo 650 camera a few months ago.
> A lot of people seemed to like it, and it sold.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Norm Baugher wrote:
>
>   
>> I knew someone would have a smartass retort, that's why I stated no
>> Pentax digital, ha! I actually use my cell phone camera, I find the  
>> VGA
>> format easy to work with and combined the 4X zoom I'm able to produce
>> stunning images in my digital darkroom (I upgraded from RAW to RARE).
>> Most are comparable to Frank's B&W work...especially printing 11 x 14
>> and larger.
>>
>> 
>>> Do you own a Nikon or Canon digital camera? or a cell phone
>>> camera?  ]'-)
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:
>>>   
 I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax  
 digital.
 
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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Doug Franklin]

Cotty wrote:

> Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB
> on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:
> 
> 

OK, added.  Here's the beginnings of the page

http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Paul Sorenson]

Porta includes a Flash option called SimpleViewer, which is an iteration 
of Godfrey's Autoviewer.  When you first view the site it offers the 
option of viewing in HTML if you don't have Flash installed.  There is a 
bug in the SimpleViewer crop/fit options for thumbnails - if you choose 
"fit" the program errors out and closes.  Either the "crop" option or no 
thumbnails option work fine.  You can run Porta on Linux using Wine.

An example is here...

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/calbirthday/

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Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>> You posted two galleries before the cheapskate thread, both of  
>> which used a
>> horizontal format.  One was the window mannequins, the other was  
>> mostly (or
>> completely) of trees, iirc.  I thought those were with some  
>> template that
>> you used.  In any case, those presentations were simple, direct,  
>> easy to
>> maneuver through 
> 
> 
> AH, you're thinking about the Flash presentation software,  
> "Autoviewer" by Airtight. Yes, that's a free utility available from
>http://www.airtightinteractive.com/projects/autoviewer/
> 
> It does require some setup editing and it requires that you have a  
> web server somewhere to put your photos on to use it. Once you do,  
> however, it can be pretty easy to just load pictures and the  
> associated XML control file as desired. I've got it in use on my  
> photo website in most of the recent collections ... for instance, on
>http://www.gdgphoto.com/TOF/index.html
> there's a link to an Autoviewer presentation of the images just below  
> the words "Thumbnail Gallery".
> 
> Godfrey
>www.gdgphoto.com
> 
> 
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Re: Hi guys, just popping in for news and K10D obs

[Digital Image Studio]

On 10/04/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/10/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > He's a cute guy Rob.  I never got around to telling you how gratified I was
> > that you decided to name him after me. :-)
> >
> > You could have named him William, but...
> >
> >
> > Tom C.
>
> I lobbied for David, but apparently it's too common. :-D

Well I did think about all you guys, Dave is common as muck amongst my
family and friends as is Willy, so Tom won ;-)

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Re: Pentaxs are UFOs

[Digital Image Studio]

On 11/04/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Almost every article I read or story I hear that uses the word "sighting(s)"
> involves UFOs or Bigfoot.
>
> Curious.
>
> Don't worry, I believe in Pentax...
>
> ...and in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and the Vargas Girls!
>
> I like my LX's & K10D's...
> ...BUT I WANT A FULL FRAME DSLR!

Hi Bob,

Good to see you back on list.

You could always weld two current Pentax DSLRs vertically on a bracket
and run an auto-stitch on the output files, changing lenses or any
other setting would be a bit of an irritant though ;-)

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Re: Protection glass / filters

[Cotty]

On 10/4/07, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>While reading this thread, it occurred to me that there have been some
>messages over the years about which hoods fit which lenses, even using
>the "wrong" hood on the "wrong" lens or using some other manufacturer's
>hood on a lens.  If the group thinks there is utility in doing so, I
>could host a "hood cross reference" page on our web site to provide that
>information to other folks.

Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB
on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this:





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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Cotty]

On 10/4/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I knew someone would have a smartass retort, that's why I stated no 
>Pentax digital, ha! I actually use my cell phone camera, I find the VGA 
>format easy to work with and combined the 4X zoom I'm able to produce 
>stunning images in my digital darkroom (I upgraded from RAW to RARE). 
>Most are comparable to Frank's B&W work...especially printing 11 x 14 
>and larger.

Bet you've got some nice sexy pouches for your phone ;-)

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Mark Roberts]

P. J. Alling wrote:

>It really depends on how much work you want to put into it.  I can 
>produce a very quick html gallery with almost no work at all.  Much 
>easier than trying to do something that looks custom in VB, VC or Java.

I want to be able to run queries, though. To bring up all photos of 
wildlife, for example. Or B&W. Or landscapes, or abstracts. Or whatever.
 With formatting set up so all I have to do is drop the images into a 
directory and assign keywords, etc. Such applications do exist, but 
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Re: RE: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>You're all making things too complicated. Use Lightroom.

I don't think that would fill my need for a web server database...


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[P. J. Alling]

It really depends on how much work you want to put into it.  I can 
produce a very quick html gallery with almost no work at all.  Much 
easier than trying to do something that looks custom in VB, VC or Java.

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Tom C wrote:
>
>   
>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> html ain't programming.
>>>
>>>   
>> It's close enough...
>> 
>
> More importantly... it's just as much work :)
>
> Personally, I'm looking into getting some kind of database back end for 
> the photo section of my web site. All the ones I've seen are quite 
> expensive, though.
>
>
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Re: Pentaxs are UFOs

[P. J. Alling]

I doubt that anyone who's lucky, (or unlucky), enough to still have a 
MZ-D/MR-52 is likely to part with it.  But there's always hope.

Bob Blakely wrote:
> Almost every article I read or story I hear that uses the word "sighting(s)" 
> involves UFOs or Bigfoot.
>
> Curious.
>
> Don't worry, I believe in Pentax...
>
> ...and in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and the Vargas Girls!
>
> I like my LX's & K10D's...
> ...BUT I WANT A FULL FRAME DSLR!
>
> Regards,
> Bob...
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>   
>> Was anyone on the list carrying a K10D at the California State Capitol
>> building in Sacramento yesterday?
>> 
>
>
>   


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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[P. J. Alling]

I don't suppose you could.

Norm Baugher wrote:
> Hi Lasse,
> I finally settled down and moved to an island.
> Unfortunately, I haven't retired and the island is Manhattan - don't 
> really recommend the beaches.
> Norm
>
> Lasse Karlsson wrote:
>   
>> From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:32 PM
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi Lasse,
>>> Good to hear your still around and thanks for the update. My condolences
>>> regarding your father.
>>> Norm
>>> 
>>>   
>> Thanks Norm,
>>
>> Good to hear from you too and that you're still around.
>> Btw. where are you situated for the time being? Have you settled down 
>> somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lasse 
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>
>
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Re: PESO: fire spitter

[P. J. Alling]

Nice capture, very good exposure.

Toine wrote:
> Fire spitter:
>
> http://leende.net/peso/20070409
>
> Toine
>
>   


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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
>
> K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in  
> Lightroom, nothing
> fancy or dramatic.
> Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software.

Very nice, Tim.

This is one I'd recommend rendering and dropping into PHotoshop or  
other image editor, then selectively darkening that rock just a bit.  
It's a little bit distracting.

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Re: OT - Tech Support

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Tom C wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0-nqRmtos

Amazing. They have discovered my last client.

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Uh huh.

I hung an 11x14 print made from the Treo 650 camera a few months ago.
A lot of people seemed to like it, and it sold.

Godfrey

On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Norm Baugher wrote:

> I knew someone would have a smartass retort, that's why I stated no
> Pentax digital, ha! I actually use my cell phone camera, I find the  
> VGA
> format easy to work with and combined the 4X zoom I'm able to produce
> stunning images in my digital darkroom (I upgraded from RAW to RARE).
> Most are comparable to Frank's B&W work...especially printing 11 x 14
> and larger.
>
>> Do you own a Nikon or Canon digital camera? or a cell phone
>> camera?  ]'-)
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:
>>> I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax  
>>> digital.


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Re: PESO: fire spitter

[Brendan MacRae]

Dramatic shot, Toine.

-Brendan
--- Toine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Fire spitter:
> 
> http://leende.net/peso/20070409
> 
> Toine
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> You posted two galleries before the cheapskate thread, both of  
> which used a
> horizontal format.  One was the window mannequins, the other was  
> mostly (or
> completely) of trees, iirc.  I thought those were with some  
> template that
> you used.  In any case, those presentations were simple, direct,  
> easy to
> maneuver through 


AH, you're thinking about the Flash presentation software,  
"Autoviewer" by Airtight. Yes, that's a free utility available from
   http://www.airtightinteractive.com/projects/autoviewer/

It does require some setup editing and it requires that you have a  
web server somewhere to put your photos on to use it. Once you do,  
however, it can be pretty easy to just load pictures and the  
associated XML control file as desired. I've got it in use on my  
photo website in most of the recent collections ... for instance, on
   http://www.gdgphoto.com/TOF/index.html
there's a link to an Autoviewer presentation of the images just below  
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Bob W wrote:

> You're all making things too complicated. Use Lightroom.

Yes, that works too. I find the presentation styles available a  
little fussier than I prefer, however.

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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Norm Baugher]

Hi Lasse,
I finally settled down and moved to an island.
Unfortunately, I haven't retired and the island is Manhattan - don't 
really recommend the beaches.
Norm

Lasse Karlsson wrote:
> From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:32 PM
>
>   
>> Hi Lasse,
>> Good to hear your still around and thanks for the update. My condolences
>> regarding your father.
>> Norm
>> 
>
> Thanks Norm,
>
> Good to hear from you too and that you're still around.
> Btw. where are you situated for the time being? Have you settled down 
> somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> Lasse 
>
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Re: PESO: fire spitter

[Bruce Dayton]

Very cool shot.  Good pose and the timing is right.

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T> Fire spitter:

T> http://leende.net/peso/20070409

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Pentaxs are UFOs

[Bob Blakely]

Almost every article I read or story I hear that uses the word "sighting(s)" 
involves UFOs or Bigfoot.

Curious.

Don't worry, I believe in Pentax...

...and in Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and the Vargas Girls!

I like my LX's & K10D's...
...BUT I WANT A FULL FRAME DSLR!

Regards,
Bob...

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From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Was anyone on the list carrying a K10D at the California State Capitol
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RE: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Bob W]

You're all making things too complicated. Use Lightroom.

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Mark Roberts
> Sent: 10 April 2007 21:28
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
> 
> Tom C wrote:
> 
> >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>html ain't programming.
> >>
> >It's close enough...
> 
> More importantly... it's just as much work :)
> 
> Personally, I'm looking into getting some kind of database 
> back end for 
> the photo section of my web site. All the ones I've seen are quite 
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Re: Stratospheric Photography...

[Mike Hamilton]

On 4/10/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Consider it a test flight. Swedish University students Jörgen Hedin and
> Michael Erneland wondered what it would be like to send an ordinary digital
> camera into the stratosphere and take a picture of the scenery. So on March
> 28th they launched a weather balloon with a Samsung DigiMax Pro 815
> onboard...".
>
> See the photo at www.spaceweather.com for April 10.

There's some pretty severe vignetting going on there...

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RE: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

[Bob W]

> 
> > I think it's been said before, but you might try using lens 
> hoods for
> > protection.  They create no optical degradation and sometimes even

> > reduce
> > lens flare!
> 
> Yes that's true, but metal, plastic or rubber?
> 
> - Someone who should know better than to make such inflammatory
posts
> 

I used to be a committed metal screw-in man when the only alternative
was rubber. But since buying the Olympuses with their bayonet-mounted
plastic hoods I really like them more than the metal screw-in ones.

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Jack Davis]

Some day I'm going to get one of those new 'color' TV's. ;)

Jack
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100.  You
> know, 
> the kind where you have to say, "It looked better than this in real
> life". 
> ;-)
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> >From: Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
> >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400
> >
> >He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.
> >
> >At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
> > >Cool!
> > >
> > >Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.
> > >
> > >
> > >Tom C.
> > >
> > >>From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>
> > >>Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
> > >>detail. Right Tom?
> >
> >--
> >
> >Steve Sharpe
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> >
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Jack Davis]

There is a large poor taste market out there. ;-)))

Jack
--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cool!
> 
> Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
> >detail. Right Tom?
> >
> >Jack
> >--- Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Fuji is reintroducing Velvia 50!
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Steve Sharpe
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >
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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

[Charles Robinson]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 13:31, Pancho Hasselbach wrote:

> Don't put the blame on the asker, you must read
> " question"!
> Unfortunately, it's a bit tricky finding the desktop from inside a DOS
> box, but maybe from there the DEL comand might do things that are not
> possible from the GUI.
>

It's easy

 From a CMD prompt (NT/Win2k/XP) type:

  cd %userprofile%

  and then:

  cd Desktop

Done!

(or: "cd %userprofile%\Desktop")

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RE: Easter bestiary

[Bob W]

Mountains, yes. We also have an Alp about 2-3 miles north of me:
http://www.citiesofscience.co.uk/go/London/ContentPlace_1960.html

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of graywolf
> Sent: 10 April 2007 13:59
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Easter bestiary
> 
> Wow, now I am envious, here there are the mountains, but I 
> have to drive 
> an hour to find a decent store for anything you can not buy 
> at Wal-Mart 
> or the Grocery.
> 
> -graywolf
> 
> 
> Bob W wrote:
> > One of the nice things about living here in Greenwich is 
> that there is
> > so much variety. I can cycle into Central London in about 
> 30 minutes.
> > It's less than 10k from here, yet I also have the river,
heathland,
> > parks, a farm!, Greenwich itself, markets, real countryside a few
> > train stations away, the coast. It's incredibly varied. 
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Re: PESO: Memories of spring

[Jack Davis]

Beautiful blossom form. Could stand on its own isolated on a dark
homogeneous non-competing background.

Jack
--- Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For a couple of weeks we had very nice spring weather here. Now it is
> pouring down again. So I thought I'd better warm myself with a flower
> picture I took. 
> (Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be
> able to
> see it)
> 
> My first macro for a long long time, so it is almost a debut ;-)
> It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens didn't produce more
> flare.
> 
> Pentax glass rules!
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
> K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom,
> nothing
> fancy or dramatic. 
> Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software. 
> 
> 
> Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated ;-)
> 
> 
> Tim Typo
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>  
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Mark Roberts]

Tom C wrote:

>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>html ain't programming.
>>
>It's close enough...

More importantly... it's just as much work :)

Personally, I'm looking into getting some kind of database back end for 
the photo section of my web site. All the ones I've seen are quite 
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PESO: fire spitter

[Toine]

Fire spitter:

http://leende.net/peso/20070409

Toine

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Re: OT - Tech Support

[drew]

Tom C wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0-nqRmtos
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 
Priceless. love it.

Andy.

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Norm Baugher]

I knew someone would have a smartass retort, that's why I stated no 
Pentax digital, ha! I actually use my cell phone camera, I find the VGA 
format easy to work with and combined the 4X zoom I'm able to produce 
stunning images in my digital darkroom (I upgraded from RAW to RARE). 
Most are comparable to Frank's B&W work...especially printing 11 x 14 
and larger.
Norm


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Do you own a Nikon or Canon digital camera? or a cell phone  
> camera?  ]'-)
>
> G
>
> On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:
>
>   
>> I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.
>> 
>
>
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Re: OT - Tech Support

[Toine]

ROFL

And backups

Toine

On 4/10/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0-nqRmtos
>
>
> Tom C.
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OT - Tech Support

[Tom C]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0-nqRmtos


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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

[Peter Lacus]

William,

> I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
> It doesn't have an extension, it is zero bytes in size, and zero bytes on 
> the disk.
> 
> When I try to delete it, I get an error message "Cannot delete file: Cannot 
> read from the source file or disk".
> If I try to change attributes, or copy it, I get an error: "The system 
> cannot find the specified file".

there's a possibility that some system process has locked the file. In 
that case you need to find its' handle, close it, and then you can do 
pretty much everything with it, icluding delete. To find a file handle 
just download a copy of excellent freeware tool ProcessExplorer from

http://tinyurl.com/sjzno

then press Ctrl-F and enter part of the file name. You get a window 
showing which process has locked the file. You can then unlock it 
choosing "Close Handle" from the menu. You will be warned that it's 
potentially dangerous operation which can lead to system instability and 
indeed it can. :-) However it's still probably a better solution than 
complete reinstall.

Cheers,

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[P. J. Alling]

I'll second Shel on that.  I use earthlink as well, and you get a total 
of 80mb divided over 8 sites.  Plenty of space to put up a lot of web 
sized photos.  There are also free hosting sites you could look into.  
You can use your own html and hot link photos you store on quite a few 
of them, if you so desire.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> Many, if not most, ISPs offer free or very inexpensive, space on their
> systems for subscribers.  I put my pics up on the Earthlink servers and it
> works just fine for me.  Earthlink allows me to have eight mailboxes, and
> each mailbox comes with a certain amount of free space which I use for
> hosting pics and galleries.  The total is not a huge amount of space, but
> since it's only used for posting pics, it's been adequate for my needs for
> years.  Total cost = $0.00  All I needed to know how to access the space
> and a few simple lines of HTML code that allows me to post the pics in the
> manner I prefer, essentially using the same code for every pic.
>
> While I can write the code for my own galleries - it's really simple and
> easy to do, there are many free programs out there that can do it for you,
> such as Porta, the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) and
> several of the image editing programs, like Photoshop, will create
> galleries with a variety of features and designs.
>
> Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
> Photonet or other such hosts.
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>   
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>> 
>
>   
>> I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike  
>> their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting  
>> commercial websites.
>>
>> That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or  
>> use .Mac ...
>>
>> G
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> My annual subscription is coming up 
>>> on PBase and I'm considering a
>>> possible change of service. For those 
>>> of you who have used Photo.net,
>>> how do you like it ?
>>> I'm overall somewhat satisfied with 
>>> PBase, but sometimes find it gets
>>> bogged down with slow uploading 
>>>   
>> .> and some folks don't seem to be able
>> 
>>> to view links back to my photos.
>>> The upload feature of selecting a 
>>> single .zip files of multiple
>>> pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets 
>>> and galleries functions.
>>> I'd like to find out more about Photo.net 
>>> though. I have a limited
>>> account already, but wonder how the paid 
>>> service compares to PBase
>>> and some of the others.
>>>   
>
>
>
>   


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Tom C]

It's close enough...

Tom C.


>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:24:42 -0400
>
>html ain't programming.
>
>Tom C wrote:
> > Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one 
>single
> > line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not
> > working. Or call me lazy.
> >
> > Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net 
>works
> > fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's
> > close enough for the time being.
> >
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
> >> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
> >>
> >> Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to 
>used
> >> Photonet or other such hosts.
> >>
> >> Shel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> [Original Message]
> >>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >>>
> >>> I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
> >>> their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
> >>> commercial websites.
> >>>
> >>> That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
> >>> use .Mac ...
> >>>
> >>> G
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  My annual subscription is coming up
>  on PBase and I'm considering a
>  possible change of service. For those
>  of you who have used Photo.net,
>  how do you like it ?
>  I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
>  PBase, but sometimes find it gets
>  bogged down with slow uploading
> 
> >>> .> and some folks don't seem to be able
> >>>
>  to view links back to my photos.
>  The upload feature of selecting a
>  single .zip files of multiple
>  pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
>  and galleries functions.
>  I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
>  though. I have a limited
>  account already, but wonder how the paid
>  service compares to PBase
>  and some of the others.
> 
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[P. J. Alling]

Come on in the waters fine, (keep the camera above your head, you don't 
want to short it out).

Norm Baugher wrote:
> I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.
> Norm
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>   
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>   
 Fuji is reintroducing Velvia 50!

   
 
>>> Great! And just who is the film user on the list? :-))
>>> 
>>>   
>> Frank.
>>
>> ...and he shoots Tri-X
>>
>> ...and he just bought an ist-D
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>
>
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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

[P. J. Alling]

I think that would be a given.

Tom C wrote:
> OK I will, but only if it has an aperture simulator.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>> From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
>> Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0200
>>
>> I imagine the addvertisemnts:
>>
>> YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!
>>
>>
>> Tim Typo
>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Dario Bonazza
>> Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>>
>> Yes, and JCO for President ;-)
>>
>> $ 50 in the pot here.
>>
>> Dario
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>>
>>
>> > Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
>> >
>> > I'll start the pot with um
>> > $35?
>> > My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
>> >
>> > CW
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
>> > Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>> >
>> >
>> >> What now?
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
>> >>
>> >> Amita
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[P. J. Alling]

html ain't programming.

Tom C wrote:
> Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
> line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
> working. Or call me lazy.
>
> Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
> fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
> close enough for the time being.
>
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>   
>> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
>>
>> Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
>> Photonet or other such hosts.
>>
>> Shel
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>>   
>>> I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
>>> their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
>>> commercial websites.
>>>
>>> That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
>>> use .Mac ...
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 My annual subscription is coming up
 on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those
 of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
 PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading
 
>>> .> and some folks don't seem to be able
>>>   
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a
 single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
 and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
 though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid
 service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.
 
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[P. J. Alling]

As opposed to those Velvia shots where you say, "Of course this is a 
photograph not a painting. Really, telling the truth. Yes REALLY!"

Tom C wrote:
> Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100. You 
> know, the kind where you have to say, "It looked better than this in 
> real life". ;-)
>
>
> Tom C.
>
>
>> From: Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400
>>
>> He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.
>>
>> At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
>> >Cool!
>> >
>> >Of course you're exaggerating slightly. The film was a hit.
>> >
>> >
>> >Tom C.
>> >
>> >>From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>
>> >>Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
>> >>detail. Right Tom?
>>
>> -- 
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> •
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Re: PESO: SMCL

[Peter Lacus]

> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8549737

aha, so this is the place where SMC Lenses are produced...

Cheers,

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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

[Kenneth Waller]

Apparently you missed an earlier press release in which it was unequivocally 
stated that the sky is falling & it's all due to humanity's excessive use of 
pixels.

We all have to convert to film & stop immediately the use of digital 
cameras.
The sky was first noted falling over some polar bears.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


> It has not yet been determined if the sky is falling or not.  Further 
> study
> is needed to determine if there is really a sky.  If there is a sky, it 
> may
> actually be stationary and items below it are moving up relative to the 
> sky.
> Maybe the sky has already fallen aand we are living in it, unawares of our
> placement in relation to it. :-)
>
> I agree that they appear to have been afraid of getting axed had the 
> merger
> taken place.
>
> Tom C. - more below...
>
>   TOKYO (Nikkei)--The going appears to be tough in the merger negotiations
> between Hoya Corp. (7741) and Pentax Corp. (7750).  The current deadlock
> began
> when Pentax shareholders demanded a review of the proposed stock-swap 
> ratio,
> but on a deeper level "it's all about digital cameras," said a Pentax
> executive.
>
> Hoya CEO Hiroshi Suzuki will convene an extraordinary board meeting on
> Tuesday to change its plan for Pentax from a merger to a takeover bid.
>
> Pentax, meanwhile, will likely oppose Hoya's new proposal because most
> of
> its directors, including Senior Executive Officer Takashi Watanuki, who 
> will
> take the reins from outgoing President Fumio Urano, are against both a
> merger
> and tender offer.
>
> The negotiations were going smoothly until Suzuki said at Hoya's Jan.
> 22
> briefing on its financial settlement that "selling off (Pentax shares) 
> will
> be
> an option if they don't bring enough return on investment in general 
> terms."
>
> Hoya enjoys a high ratio of consolidated operating profit, nearly 30%,
> "which cannot be attained with digital cameras.  We may not be able to
> afford
> to continue the operations," said a Pentax director.
>
> At the April 4 board meeting, a majority of Pentax directors opposed
> the
> merger with Hoya because the proposal "poses the risk of a 'no' vote by
> shareholders" due to concern about the stock-exchange ratio, said one. 
> Said
> another director, "I'm against the merger, as that represents the opinion 
> of
> the employees."
>
> Pentax began merger negotiations with Hoya in early 2006, under
> pressure
> from a need to review its digital-camera operations.
>
> At the time, "There was a trusting relationship" between Suzuki and
> Watanuki, said an insider.  But negotiations broke down in June, due 
> mainly
> to
> a disagreement over the number of directors Pentax wanted to send to the
> merged
> firm.  Urano resumed negotiations with Suzuki and without Watanuki in the
> summer, but "didn't get to specifics," said the insider.
>
> Under pressure from an investment fund "to sell off the poorly
> performing
> digital-camera operations and concentrate on medical equipment and 
> devices,"
> Urano, who wanted to keep digital-camera operations, conceded to Hoya's
> proposal that it send in three directors against Pentax's two, a plan that
> was
> announced on Dec. 21.
>
> Rapid technological innovation gives digital cameras a short product
> cycle, making it difficult to generate stable income over the long term.
> That
> led Konica Minolta Holdings Inc. (4902) to withdraw from the business last
> spring.
>
> After two consecutive years of losses in imaging systems, mainly
> consisting of digital cameras, Pentax drastically cut costs and introduced
> three new digital single-lens-reflex models last year.  It revised its
> fiscal
> 2006 shipment plan upward twice, to top 300,000 units, 2.5 times its 
> volume
> for
> fiscal 2005.  The selloff proposal by the fund and the Hoya remark 
> implying
> a
> lack of commitment came as unwelcome surprises.
>
> Pentax developed the first made-in-Japan 35mm SLR camera in 1952, and
> has
> a special attachment to camera operations even though medical equipment
> brings
> it more profit.  The founding Matsumoto family, including former president
> Tohru Matsumoto, who led the firm for 22 years, still owns 7-8% of the
> company.
> They will likely vote against a merger or tender offer.
>
> While it has reduced investment in compact models to pursue quality
> over
> quantity, the future remains as uncertain for Pentax as the longer-term
> growth
> prospects of the digital SLR market.
>
> -- Translated from an article written by Nikkei staff writers Shimao Ojima
> and
> Soichi Inai.
> (The Nikkei Business Daily Tuesday edition)
> -0- Apr/10/2007  2:18 GMT
>
>
>>From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>Subject: Re: Pentax Calls 

Stratospheric Photography...

[Tom C]

"Consider it a test flight. Swedish University students Jörgen Hedin and 
Michael Erneland wondered what it would be like to send an ordinary digital 
camera into the stratosphere and take a picture of the scenery. So on March 
28th they launched a weather balloon with a Samsung DigiMax Pro 815 
onboard...".


See the photo at www.spaceweather.com for April 10.

Tom C.



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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 4:27 AM
> Glad to hear from you Lasse. My condolences on the passing of your
> father. I know that it has been a many year struggle for you as in
> many ways you put your own life on hold. But the struggle is worth
> it, and the end is never welcome.

Hi there Stan!
Glad to hear from you too.Thanks.

> Now go out and take some pictures of the girls!

That's an order I won't object to. And if anyone asks me why, I'll just tell 
them Stan told me to.

> If you can't find any, I know a bar in Marianham where they seem to just 
> to congregate...

Yes, occasionally I hang out there since they often have good bands for 
free.
Btw. If you recall the blonde girl tending our table, she's still around, 
but in another (newer) bar/restaurant/nightclub where I more often go.

Still traveling as often as you used to?

Thanks,
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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

[P. J. Alling]

The Asahi news, (interesting name that), was reported to have a story 
that the Pentax board members who had voted against the Stock Tender 
would also vote to reject the Cash Tender.  There seems to be more than 
haggling about price here.  On the other hand everyone has their price.

Jens Bladt wrote:
> This osunds just right, Paul. They're probably just fighting over the pice
> tag :-)
> Regards
> Jens
>
> Jens Bladt
>
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
> +45 56 63 77 11
> +45 23 43 85 77
> Skype: jensbladt248
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Paul
> Stenquist
> Sendt: 10. april 2007 18:24
> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Emne: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>
>
> Business as usual for the time being. It's probably a good thing for
> the camera division. But I suspect Hoya will be back with another
> offer that is more attractive to the Pentax board.
> Paul
> On Apr 10, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Amita Guha wrote:
>
>   
>> What now?
>> http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
>>
>> Amita
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi,

You posted two galleries before the cheapskate thread, both of which used a
horizontal format.  One was the window mannequins, the other was mostly (or
completely) of trees, iirc.  I thought those were with some template that
you used.  In any case, those presentations were simple, direct, easy to
maneuver through 


Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

> I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
> X included TextEdit application for the "cheapskates" thread as what  
> I normally use to write HTML.
>
> Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
> advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
> processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
> for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
> lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
> it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.
>
> I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
> templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
> very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.
>
> Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
> do it with good tools... ;-)
>
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:42 AM
> Lasse,
> Hi again, you have been quiet for a long time.

Hi Bob,

Yes, I guess I have.
I have both been busy doing other things - still shooting a great deal 
although for some time not quite as creatively as I had been planning on - 
and also the deteriorating health of my father has taken quite some time and 
energy.

> Sorry about your dad, but the time will come for all of us.

Thanks. Yes, it's inevitable and rationally speaking I and my sister have 
accepted his passing from that point of view, although there are of course 
all the thoughts and feelings that comes with it when it finally happens. I 
guess many of you know from own experiences.

> Nice to hear you are alive and well.

Yes, I am. Thank you.

Lasse 


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Re: Memories of spring

[Kenneth Waller]

Very well done Tim, but the lower white OOF object is extremely distracting 
to me.
I like the use of backlighting.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: PESO: Memories of spring


> For a couple of weeks we had very nice spring weather here. Now it is
> pouring down again. So I thought I'd better warm myself with a flower
> picture I took.
> (Posted at the user friendliest of my sites, so all of you should be able 
> to
> see it)
>
> My first macro for a long long time, so it is almost a debut ;-)
> It was strong backlight. I was surprised the lens didn't produce more 
> flare.
>
> Pentax glass rules!
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=302863
> K10D and FA 50/2,8 macro at f:5,6, freehand. Converted in Lightroom, 
> nothing
> fancy or dramatic.
> Healed down some tiny bits of flare in same software.
>
>
> Brickbats, rotten eggs, or flowers appreciated ;-)
>
>
> Tim Typo
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> ...  the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) ...

Shel,

I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
X included TextEdit application for the "cheapskates" thread as what  
I normally use to write HTML.

Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.

I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.

Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
do it with good tools... ;-)

G

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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "ann sanfedele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:38 PM

> Lasse Karlsson wrote:
>>I have stayed subscribed all the time, although I'm now shooting Canon 
>>(20D)

> Ditto - only mine is the 300D
That should be a good camera. I could do well with the 300D as well, but 
once I could afford it I decided to shell out for the more expensive 20D for 
a few added benefits, like the faster frames per second, which comes handy 
for instance when shooting sports.

But tell me (last I heard you were still shooting film, and I seem to recall 
thinking that the slower "turnaround" of shooting film may have suited your 
kind of shooting) - what has shooting digital meant to you and your way of 
shooting?
I still clearly remember your earliest submissions and immediately noticing 
what I thought was a "Sanfedele aesthetics" to them, meaning that just by a 
few submissions I thought I saw well developed artistic eye, so to speak.
Has digital worked well for you?
Does the hardware - computer etc, work like you want it to?

>>and haven't been posting for a really long time - a year, two years? 
>>However
>>there is still a Pentax torch glowing inside, if this expression doesn't
>>sound too silly in English.
>>
> not too silly, anyway ;)  and me too, actually.

>>Due to lack of funds for a number of years, I haven't been able to make 
>>some
>>needed upgrades of equipment - on all levels - which has somewhat stalled
>>some of my plans.
>>After what must be considered a full and maybe fulfilled life, my father
>>recently passed away, at the age of 85. I am still, along with my sister,
>>sorting out the legal aspects that follow his passing. (My mother passed
>>away many years ago.)

> A difficult time -- my condolences, Lasse -

Thanks.

>>Anyway, since I'm doing some spring-cleaning, I'm about to get rid of some
>>old stuff that has been laying around or fallen into my lap. Following 
>>this
>>message I will post another and list some items just in case someone might
>>be interested in some creative trades or want to bid on something. (Just 
>>not
>>cause any expectations I might emphasize that there probably won't be any
>>real "goodies" from a Pentax shooter's point of view.)
>>Thanks,
>>Lasse

> I might write you off list with an offering to trade taht i can't find
> at the moment -
> in exchange for a filter or two with a 58 mm thread.
>
> Nice to see you, again
> Regards,
> ann

Same to you ann,

Thanks,
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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

[Tim Øsleby]

And a HD-LCD.

No offence intended, John


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
C
Sent: 10. april 2007 20:03
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

OK I will, but only if it has an aperture simulator.

Tom C.


>From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
>Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0200
>
>I imagine the addvertisemnts:
>
>YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!
>
>
>Tim Typo
>Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>Dario Bonazza
>Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>
>Yes, and JCO for President ;-)
>
>$ 50 in the pot here.
>
>Dario
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
>Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>
>
> > Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
> >
> > I'll start the pot with um
> > $35?
> > My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
> >
> > CW
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
> > Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
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> >
> >> What now?
> >> http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
> >>
> >> Amita
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Tom C]

Yeah, like that.

Tom C.



From: Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:28:47 -0400

Ah. The GAF 64 look. :^)

http://earth.delith.com/customshouse.html



At 11:01 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
>Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100.
>You know, the kind where you have to say, "It looked better than
>this in real life". ;-)
>
>
>Tom C.
>
>>From: Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
>>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400
>>
>>He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.
>>
>>At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
>>>Cool!
>>>
>>>Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.
>>>
>>>
>>>Tom C.
>>>
From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
detail. Right Tom?
>>
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Do you own a Nikon or Canon digital camera? or a cell phone  
camera?  ]'-)

G

On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Norm Baugher wrote:

> I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.


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Re: OT: Stupid Windows Question

[Pancho Hasselbach]

Don't put the blame on the asker, you must read
" question"!
Unfortunately, it's a bit tricky finding the desktop from inside a DOS 
box, but maybe from there the DEL comand might do things that are not 
possible from the GUI.

Pancho

William Robb wrote:
> Hi:
> I have a file on my desktop that won't go away.
> (...)
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks
> William Robb 

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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 12:56 AM

> Hi Lasse,
> Sorry to read of your father's passing, condolences.

Thanks.

> 20D? Flog it and get yourself a K10D - much better hardware.

Yes, the K10D is finally one Pentax digital that has seriously tempted me to 
return to Pentax.
However, there is this classic dilemma of dealing with two different brands. 
Or, deciding on the one or the other.

> Or keep your lenses and get a 1DmarkIII  :-)

Yes, I've been drooling over there too. However the monstrous and beasty 
size of it turns me off a bit. I've mostly been wanting a smaller second 
digital body...

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Tom,

I can certainly understand your POV, and far be it from me to dissuade you.
I'd like to point out one other thing: Once the three or four lines of code
were written, there was no need to write any more code for subsequent pics,
and, had I chosen to do so, I could have set things up just to post the
pics without any code whatsoever.

Boris, I find your picture posting site just too busy, which, IMO, takes
away from a good, simple presentation which focuses on the photograph. 
Your pics - and the pics of many others on the PDML - can benefit from
better, simpler presentations.

I mentioned Godders setup for his gallery as being a good one.  While his
setup for single pics is also good in many ways, there are some other
presentations I like quite a bit.  Bruce Dayton's pics are nicely and
simply presented with a consistent format, and I can always count on being
able to concentrate on his photos rather than being distracted by
peripheral things in the presentation.  There are some other presentations
that I like as well.  Bill Robb seems to have simple and direct
presentations.

As an aside, it was Bill who showed me how easy it was to put pics up the
way I wanted them to appear, quite a few years ago ;-))

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of 
> charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of
folders.
>
> But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making 
> there my own very simple web page.
>
> Boris
>
>
> Tom C wrote:
> > Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one
single 
> > line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm
not 
> > working. Or call me lazy.
> > 
> > Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net
works 
> > fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but
it's 
> > close enough for the time being.



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Re: PESO - Learning to shoot

[drew]

David Savage wrote:
> On 4/10/07, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Andy
>>
>> Quoting drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at
>>> least
>>> she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)
>>>
>>> http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andy.
>> A photographer in the making!  Well captured - and using a great little 
>> camera as well.
> 
> The Trip was the family camera for longer than I've been alive (and
> it's been "in the family" longer than my parents have been together).
> It's never missed a beat, and takes really nice pictures.
> 
> Cute shot Drew. She looks to have a good technique. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 

Thanks Dave, Russell, Boris and Brian. I was just testing the trip 
having bought it for 1 pound at a car boot sale earlier that day. I am 
happy to report it works (great little camera too). I have added a one 
of the shots Alex took to the page. I am quite impressed, straight off 
the scanner with no crops or straightening, just added the border, sig 
and resized for web.

http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html

Thanks for looking.
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Tom C]

Hi Boris,

I've had my own domain for 7 years and still haven't got a gallery up.  Now 
that's lazy! :-)

Tom C.



>From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:09:36 +0300
>
>I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of
>charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of folders.
>
>But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making
>there my own very simple web page.
>
>Boris
>
>
>Tom C wrote:
> > Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one 
>single
> > line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not
> > working. Or call me lazy.
> >
> > Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net 
>works
> > fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's
> > close enough for the time being.
> >
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
> >> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
> >>
> >> Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to 
>used
> >> Photonet or other such hosts.
> >>
> >> Shel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> [Original Message]
> >>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >>> I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
> >>> their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
> >>> commercial websites.
> >>>
> >>> That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
> >>> use .Mac ...
> >>>
> >>> G
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
> >>>
>  My annual subscription is coming up
>  on PBase and I'm considering a
>  possible change of service. For those
>  of you who have used Photo.net,
>  how do you like it ?
>  I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
>  PBase, but sometimes find it gets
>  bogged down with slow uploading
> >>> .> and some folks don't seem to be able
>  to view links back to my photos.
>  The upload feature of selecting a
>  single .zip files of multiple
>  pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
>  and galleries functions.
>  I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
>  though. I have a limited
>  account already, but wonder how the paid
>  service compares to PBase
>  and some of the others.
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:50 PM

> Lasse,
> Good to hear from you.  Sorry to hear about your father.
> Best regards,
> Bruce

Thanks Bruce,

Good to hear from you too and seeing that you're in full action.

Thanks,
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Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

[Fernando Terrazzino]

lol
On 4/10/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK I will, but only if it has an aperture simulator.
>
> Tom C.
>
>
> >From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> >Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
> >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0200
> >
> >I imagine the addvertisemnts:
> >
> >YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!
> >
> >
> >Tim Typo
> >Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >Dario Bonazza
> >Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
> >
> >Yes, and JCO for President ;-)
> >
> >$ 50 in the pot here.
> >
> >Dario
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
> >
> >
> > > Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
> > >
> > > I'll start the pot with um
> > > $35?
> > > My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
> > >
> > > CW
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
> > > Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
> > >
> > >
> > >> What now?
> > >> http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
> > >>
> > >> Amita
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Boris Liberman]

I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of 
charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of folders.

But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making 
there my own very simple web page.

Boris


Tom C wrote:
> Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
> line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
> working. Or call me lazy.
> 
> Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
> fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
> close enough for the time being.
> 
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
>> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
>>
>> Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
>> Photonet or other such hosts.
>>
>> Shel
>>
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>> I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
>>> their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
>>> commercial websites.
>>>
>>> That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
>>> use .Mac ...
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
>>>
 My annual subscription is coming up
 on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those
 of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
 PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading
>>> .> and some folks don't seem to be able
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a
 single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
 and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
 though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid
 service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:18 PM

> Lasse, it is nice to have you back.

Thank you Boris, nice talking to you again too.

>> After what must be considered a full and maybe fulfilled life, my father
>> recently passed away, at the age of 85. I am still, along with my sister,
>> sorting out the legal aspects that follow his passing. (My mother passed
>> away many years ago.)
>
> This is sad news indeed. My condolences.

Thanks.

>> As often is the case when parents pass away, there will now be some funds
>> coming my way, which will allow me to invest in some new equipment.
>> I have looked into and felt tempted to buy into Pentax again. However
>> previous experiences of shooting with different brands may lead me to
>> staying with only Canon. We'll see.
>
> What seems to be true is that no matter what gear one uses - the
> photograph is made by the photographer. The gear is secondary. Thus
> whatever gear you choose will matter less than what you would see
> through your viewfinder tripping the shutter.

I fully agree with your statement. Well put.

>> Anyway, since I'm doing some spring-cleaning, I'm about to get rid of 
>> some
>> old stuff that has been laying around or fallen into my lap. Following 
>> this
>> message I will post another and list some items just in case someone 
>> might
>> be interested in some creative trades or want to bid on something. (Just 
>> not
>> cause any expectations I might emphasize that there probably won't be any
>> real "goodies" from a Pentax shooter's point of view.)
>
> Oh!!! Enablement ;-). This is something that never stops, doesn't it?
> (Hmmm, I am confused here with the grammar - doesn't it/does it - which
> one is true?!)
>
> See you around.

I look forward to it.

Thanks,
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Tom C]

Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
working. Or call me lazy.

Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
close enough for the time being.


Tom C.


>From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
>
>Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
>Photonet or other such hosts.
>
>Shel
>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
>
> > I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
> > their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
> > commercial websites.
> >
> > That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
> > use .Mac ...
> >
> > G
> >
> > On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
> >
> > > My annual subscription is coming up
> > > on PBase and I'm considering a
> > > possible change of service. For those
> > > of you who have used Photo.net,
> > > how do you like it ?
> > > I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
> > > PBase, but sometimes find it gets
> > > bogged down with slow uploading
> > .> and some folks don't seem to be able
> > > to view links back to my photos.
> > > The upload feature of selecting a
> > > single .zip files of multiple
> > > pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
> > > and galleries functions.
> > > I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
> > > though. I have a limited
> > > account already, but wonder how the paid
> > > service compares to PBase
> > > and some of the others.
>
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Norm Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:32 PM

> Hi Lasse,
> Good to hear your still around and thanks for the update. My condolences
> regarding your father.
> Norm

Thanks Norm,

Good to hear from you too and that you're still around.
Btw. where are you situated for the time being? Have you settled down 
somewhere?

Thanks,
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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

[Tom C]

OK I will, but only if it has an aperture simulator.

Tom C.



From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:59:11 +0200

I imagine the addvertisemnts:

YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dario Bonazza
Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

Yes, and JCO for President ;-)

$ 50 in the pot here.

Dario

- Original Message -
From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


> Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
>
> I'll start the pot with um
> $35?
> My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
>
> CW
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
> Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
>
>
>> What now?
>> http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
>>
>> Amita
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[ann sanfedele]

Jay Taylor wrote:

>My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a  
>possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,  
>how do you like it ?
>I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets  
>bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able  
>to view links back to my photos.
>The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple  
>pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
>I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited  
>account already, but wonder how the paid service compares to PBase  
>and some of the others.
>
>Thanks,
>JayT
>  
>
Jay, I am really loving smugmug - check that out - and if you
do and mention me (annsan.smugmug.com) I get a small bit of moolah and 
you get a discount too.

I've never gotten such fast responses in email to questions and they are 
very nice and helpful -
the themes are nice and depending on the type of account you have you 
can do a lot of customizing...
I've barely scratched the surface there.


The general link to them is just www.smugmug.com

ann

>  
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RE: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

[Tim Øsleby]

I imagine the addvertisemnts:

YOU DON'T GET IT, BUY THIS CAMERA, STUPID!!!


Tim Typo
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dario Bonazza
Sent: 10. april 2007 19:29
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan

Yes, and JCO for President ;-)

$ 50 in the pot here.

Dario

- Original Message - 
From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan


> Lets pool the financial resources of the PDLM and buy the company!!!
> 
> I'll start the pot with um
> $35?
> My dog needs surgery this week so I'm a little short.
> 
> CW
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:31 AM
> Subject: Pentax Calls Off Hoya Share-Swap Merger Plan
> 
> 
>> What now?
>> http://tinyurl.com/285gj2
>>
>> Amita
>>
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Re: Spring greetings from Scandinavia

[Lasse Karlsson]

From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:16 PM
> Hi Lasse,
> Good to hear from you. It must be homecoming weekend on the PDML.
> Hope you decide to post some spring pics. We are allowed to view
> Canon photos. That general permission falls under a set of guidelines
> known as "the Cotty rules." :-)
> Paul

Thanks for your welcome Paul,

Also thanks for encouraging me to post pictures.
I hope that I will do so, once I finish some other things that need my 
attention right now.
There's been a period of very little creativity photography-wise. But I have 
well grounded hopes for this to change in the near future though.

Thanks,
Lasse

> On Apr 7, 2007, at 8:36 AM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just want to say hi to you all and that I'm still around.
>> Spring has arrived up here, although for the time being it's still
>> a bit
>> chilly and windy.
>> But there is more light and among everything else that springtime
>> brings
>> along, you start thinking about how to photographically make the
>> best use of
>> the increased sunlight.
>>
>> It's nice to see that the list is running very much like it has
>> always run,
>> that many of you oldies are still around as well as some new blood
>> having
>> joined.
>>
>> I have stayed subscribed all the time, although I'm now shooting
>> Canon (20D)
>> and haven't been posting for a really long time - a year, two
>> years? However
>> there is still a Pentax torch glowing inside, if this expression
>> doesn't
>> sound too silly in English.
>>
>> Due to lack of funds for a number of years, I haven't been able to
>> make some
>> needed upgrades of equipment - on all levels - which has somewhat
>> stalled
>> some of my plans.
>>
>> After what must be considered a full and maybe fulfilled life, my
>> father
>> recently passed away, at the age of 85. I am still, along with my
>> sister,
>> sorting out the legal aspects that follow his passing. (My mother
>> passed
>> away many years ago.)
>> As often is the case when parents pass away, there will now be some
>> funds
>> coming my way, which will allow me to invest in some new equipment.
>> I have looked into and felt tempted to buy into Pentax again. However
>> previous experiences of shooting with different brands may lead me to
>> staying with only Canon. We'll see.
>>
>> Anyway, since I'm doing some spring-cleaning, I'm about to get rid
>> of some
>> old stuff that has been laying around or fallen into my lap.
>> Following this
>> message I will post another and list some items just in case
>> someone might
>> be interested in some creative trades or want to bid on something.
>> (Just not
>> cause any expectations I might emphasize that there probably won't
>> be any
>> real "goodies" from a Pentax shooter's point of view.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lasse 


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

[Shel Belinkoff]

Many, if not most, ISPs offer free or very inexpensive, space on their
systems for subscribers.  I put my pics up on the Earthlink servers and it
works just fine for me.  Earthlink allows me to have eight mailboxes, and
each mailbox comes with a certain amount of free space which I use for
hosting pics and galleries.  The total is not a huge amount of space, but
since it's only used for posting pics, it's been adequate for my needs for
years.  Total cost = $0.00  All I needed to know how to access the space
and a few simple lines of HTML code that allows me to post the pics in the
manner I prefer, essentially using the same code for every pic.

While I can write the code for my own galleries - it's really simple and
easy to do, there are many free programs out there that can do it for you,
such as Porta, the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) and
several of the image editing programs, like Photoshop, will create
galleries with a variety of features and designs.

Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
Photonet or other such hosts.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

> I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike  
> their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting  
> commercial websites.
>
> That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or  
> use .Mac ...
>
> G
>
> On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
>
> > My annual subscription is coming up 
> > on PBase and I'm considering a
> > possible change of service. For those 
> > of you who have used Photo.net,
> > how do you like it ?
> > I'm overall somewhat satisfied with 
> > PBase, but sometimes find it gets
> > bogged down with slow uploading 
> .> and some folks don't seem to be able
> > to view links back to my photos.
> > The upload feature of selecting a 
> > single .zip files of multiple
> > pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets 
> > and galleries functions.
> > I'd like to find out more about Photo.net 
> > though. I have a limited
> > account already, but wonder how the paid 
> > service compares to PBase
> > and some of the others.



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Re: PESO - Learning to shoot

[Boris Liberman]

The treasured memory moment!

Boris

drew wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My 8yo shooting some pictures with my Olympus Trip 35, seems at least
> she has learnt how to hold a camera now ;-)
> 
> http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/peso/peso.html
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy.
> 
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[frank theriault]

On 4/9/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Frank.
>
> ...and he shoots Tri-X
>
> ...and he just bought an ist-D
> ;-)

Well said, Mark.

Especially the winky-smiley part.  ;-)

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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Steve Sharpe]

Ah. The GAF 64 look. :^)

http://earth.delith.com/customshouse.html



At 11:01 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
>Jack likes those low contrast shots you get with Kodak Gold 100. 
>You know, the kind where you have to say, "It looked better than 
>this in real life". ;-)
>
>
>Tom C.
>
>>From: Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>Subject: Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list
>>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:22:03 -0400
>>
>>He sounds like a Black and White Person to me.
>>
>>At 10:13 AM -0600 4/10/07, Tom C wrote:
>>>Cool!
>>>
>>>Of course you're exaggerating slightly.   The film was a hit.
>>>
>>>
>>>Tom C.
>>>
From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Boy, I'm excited...not. Over saturated, bizarre hues and blocked
detail. Right Tom?
>>
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[Norm Baugher]

I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.
Norm

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>   
>> On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Steve Sharpe wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Fuji is reintroducing Velvia 50!
>>>
>>>   
>> Great! And just who is the film user on the list? :-))
>> 
>
> Frank.
>
> ...and he shoots Tri-X
>
> ...and he just bought an ist-D
> ;-)
>
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Re: OT: good news for the film user on the list

[frank theriault]

On 4/10/07, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I'm pretty much one of the last hold outs...no Pentax digital.

You're such a luddite

-frank
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