Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think he gets paid anything on advertising unless you click 
through to the advertiser. A one cent donation will cost considerably 
more in Paypal fees than he receives in cash. I think it's fare for the 
information value. Give negative money for negative information. Not 
that I'm advocating that. Nor will I personally do it, but it is an 
amusingly evil idea.

graywolf wrote:
 Isn't that about what he make in advertising fees every time a bunch of you 
 look at his website? I find it amusing that you guys laugh at him while you 
 are helping him make money. I suspect he finds that amusing as hell too.


 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 That would be a very bad think, I'm ashamed of you :-)

 David J Brooks wrote:
 
 Thats quite the screen capture.:-)

 Wonder what woul dhappen if i sent him $-0.01 in Paypal.

 Dave

 On 9/15/07, Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
 It's a bit like my dog explaining quantum mechanics.

 http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mtf.htm

 Thew most accurate and understandable line in the whole piece?

 MTF is way beyond the scope of this website

 Out of the mouths of babes, sucklings and kenny boy!

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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Digital Image Studio wrote:
 On 17/09/2007, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Isn't that about what he make in advertising fees every time a bunch of you 
 look at his website? I find it amusing that you guys laugh at him while you 
 are helping him make money. I suspect he finds that amusing as hell too.
 

 My visits to his site are a form of therapy ;-)

   
I thought you did it to feed your insanity, I do...

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Re: Test

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Hum, I don't think I saw this either...

Tim Øsleby wrote:
 Hah. You don't fool me Peter

 Tim Typo
 Mostly Harmless

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Re: GESO - Ford Roadster

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice shots, I'd like to know what you'd eat at XXX Burgers besides food...

Gabriel Cain wrote:
 Comments welcome.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabrielcain/sets/72157601967404614/

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Re: GESO - Ford Roadster

2007-09-17 Thread David Savage
At 02:09 PM 17/09/2007, P. J. Alling wrote:
Nice shots, I'd like to know what you'd eat at XXX Burgers besides food...


Must...resist

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Re: GESO - Ford Roadster

2007-09-17 Thread Gabriel Cain
P. J. Alling wrote:
 Nice shots, I'd like to know what you'd eat at XXX Burgers besides food...


:D I bet you would, and here's what: Root beer.  They serve it in quart 
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Re: September PUG -- Toralf's shoes

2007-09-17 Thread Toralf Lund
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 It is an interesting gallery, and I enjoyed all the potographs.

 I thought of Toralf's shot of the shoes on the wire when I saw this
 article in our Sunday newspaper:

 http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-8/1189917390313570.xmlcoll=1

 Snopes has also looked into the practice of throwing shoes over
 telephone wires, and concluded there is no single exlanation for the
 practice:

 http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/sneakers.asp
   
Interesting... So maybe I live in Gangland. Or a drug-infested area. 
Although the thought of aircraft flying at this altitude is perhaps the 
scariest of all...

I'm more inclined to assume that the shoes were put there by other 
people who had read articles like this, however. But at the same time, I 
can't quite shake the thought that this is some sort of memorial for a 
person who died, which had also entered my mind earlier ;-(

Another peculiarity of my shoes is that they were painted green - in 
at least two of the cases where I've seen this. Most of the paint has 
probably worn off in the picture posted, but I think you can see some 
traces of it.

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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread Toralf Lund
Peter Jordan wrote:
 It's a bit like my dog explaining quantum mechanics.

 http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mtf.htm
   
So, he's got a BS degree in Engineering, Mathematics or Physics.

Certainly explains a lot ;-)

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Re: OT: New Laptop

2007-09-17 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/09/16 Sun PM 10:40:46 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: New Laptop
 
 From:
 Mark Roberts
  John Sessoms wrote:
  Still don't have Photoshop installed, may get to that later today. I hope.
  
  
  The computer I was using for email and newsgroups died. I'm pretty sure 
  it's a CPU/Motherboard problem, and I may be able to fix it eventually. 
  Anyway, I've spent the last 6 hours trying to configure this laptop - 
  turning off and un-installing all of the pre-installed CRAP.
  
 
  http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
   :) 

 
 Bookmarked it. Thanks.
 
 I'll probably run it later to remove the stuff I didn't remove already. 
 Looks like it will remove the pre-installed McAffee that I still can't 
 get to work.
 
 I've got a lot of work ahead of me tweaking the software so it'll work 
 like I want it to - e.g. I've got to go into preferences on Thunderbird 
 (my email/newsreader client) and find the setting to make send in plain 
 text the default.
 
 I know I will need protection from virus and other undesirable internet 
 intrusions.
 
 I've always used Norton Anti-Virus (later Symantec) and never had any 
 problems with it. I started using it before the US Army adopted it and 
 started providing it free for service member's personal computers.
 
 But now that I'm retired, I'm going to have to buy my own programs and 
 updates again.
 
 I've seen a lot of talk on the internet that Norton/Symantec doesn't 
 play well with Microsoft Windows XP and especially with Vista (which 
 this laptop came with).

AVG anti-virus works very well and, almost incredibly, has a free version that 
does all the important stuff.  Personal use only.  Don't have the URL but you 
should be able to Gurgle it easily.  Zone alarm firewall is also excellent and 
free.

 
 So, before I un-install the McAffee, can I get recommendations for GOOD 
 working anti-virus/anti-intrusion software?
 
 On a happier note, PS-CS3 installed fairly easily. Because I downloaded 
 the upgrade package, it asked for the S/N from my CS2 package the first 
 time I started the program. I didn't have to feed it any CDs or anything 
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Re: Nikon D300 sample photos

2007-09-17 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/09/16 Sun PM 11:23:14 GMT
 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
 
 On 16/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I have no plans on putting any more quotations into the annual PDML 
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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice framing and color, but they all appear to be a bit soft. Shutter  
speed?
Paul
On Sep 17, 2007, at 1:11 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 The six-stage Tour of Missouri ended today with an overall victory by
 George Hincappi of Team Discovery. When it began Tuesday, the first
 stage passed 3 miles from my home. Twice. But I was in Virginia. Got
 back in town Friday night, Saturday my wife and I drove to see Stage
 5. We saw the start in Jefferson City, then drove like crazy to
 intercept the race 65 miles down the road, then drove again to
 another interception point. The third spot was at the top of the
 longest climb of the race. I was able to position myself about 50m
 before the King of the Mountain line. The small linked gallery is
 from shots at that spot.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/GESO-TourOfMissouri/

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Re: Sydney PDML

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
sure,

http://www.frappr.com/pdml

strangely, the map isn't showing up for me, and I tried three
different browsers.  Would you please let me know if it shows up for
you?  Thanks,

rg2

On 9/16/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last time I looked there were only three or four in the Sydney area.  Seems 
 I've forgotten to bookmark the URL of the Frapper map.  Do you have it?

 Cheers

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 Quoting Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Pity, but I'm not even sure how many list members there are in
  and
  around Sydney.
 
  You could check the frappr map, there seems to be several of you
  guys
  in australia. ;)
 
  rg2
 
  On 9/16/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi Dave
  
  
   I'm back from my touring around New South Wales.
  
   It doesn't seem as if many Sydney PDMLers will be available to
  meet during your Sydney visit.  Pity, but I'm not even sure how
  many list members there are in and around Sydney.
  
   Anyway, I'm available on the 26th (or 27th) and happy to meet up
  for a coffee, Pentax talk and perhaps take a few photos.
  
   If no one else is available we can probably sort out the
  logistics off list.
  
  
  
   Cheers
  
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   Quoting Dave Mann
  
Hi all,
   
I've firmed up my plans for my trip to Sydney.  We'll be
  arriving
on
the 21st of September and departing on the 28th.
   
Obviously I'd be keen to meet up with fellow PDML members, but
  the
best time in our schedule is for Wednesday 26th when the Mrs
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be
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Our schedule does have a little flexibility so if there's a
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Re: PESO Eastmain Rapids, James Bay

2007-09-17 Thread David J Brooks
Your lucky to have a turban

Dave

On 9/16/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I used to be one of the crew on a truck which delivered
 nitro-glycerine to high-street chemist stores and school science labs.


 Because of budgetary constraints it wasn't possible to fit the trucks
 with pneumatic tyres, so we had to make wooden ones ourselves.

 My job was to stand in the back holding a 50-gallon glass of nitro
 under each arm and jump up every time we approached a pot-hole in the
 road. The drivers used to play tricks and tell me we were approaching
 a pot-hole when we weren't really, so I'd jump and hit my head on the
 wagon roof. They thought it was such a lark.

 That's why I always wear a turban when driving.

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  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Re: PESO Eastmain Rapids, James Bay
 
  I once drove the front arrow truck for a highway department
  line painting crew. You do not know what fun is until you
  have to drive down a heavily traveled two lane road at rush
  hour straddling the center line and forcing traffic onto the
  shoulders so the paint truck behind you can repaint the
  lines. Some of the 18 wheelers try to play chicken with you.
 
  Just thought I would help put your new job into perspective,
  a couple of more trips and you will not think anything of it.
 
 


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Re: Sydney PDML

2007-09-17 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Rebekah

Quoting Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 sure,
 
 http://www.frappr.com/pdml


Thanks - I've now bookmarked it!


 strangely, the map isn't showing up for me, and I tried three
 different browsers.  Would you please let me know if it shows up
 for


No - all I see is a general map of the USA with a message saying Your map will 
be right back.  I'm using Firefox on Linux.


Cheers

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Re: Nikon D300 sample photos

2007-09-17 Thread David J Brooks
Is it something i said.:-)

Dave

On 9/17/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2007/09/16 Sun PM 11:23:14 GMT
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  Subject: Re: Nikon D300 sample photos
 
  On 16/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  I have no plans on putting any more quotations into the annual PDML
  quote list solely for the purpose of embarrassing people.
 
  Mark!

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Re: Sydney PDML

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
No - all I see is a general map of the USA with a message saying
Your map will be right back.  I'm using Firefox on Linux.

Lucky me, I've got a grey background that says image not available
and a bunch of yellow dots.  I tried explorer, netscape, and firefox
on XP.  There doesn't seem to be a contact email for the map, do you
(or anyone reading this) know who started it?

rg2



On 9/17/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Rebekah

 Quoting Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  sure,
 
  http://www.frappr.com/pdml


 Thanks - I've now bookmarked it!


  strangely, the map isn't showing up for me, and I tried three
  different browsers.  Would you please let me know if it shows up
  for


 No - all I see is a general map of the USA with a message saying Your map 
 will be right back.  I'm using Firefox on Linux.


 Cheers

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PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
Still learning PS and processing generally.  I'm afraid that my film
days made me lazy (here, Robert, print these the way you always do).
 Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
no detail in the man's suit.

Here's the re-working:

http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg

Here's last weeks muddy rendering:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg

Improvement?  Other comments?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: September PUG -- Toralf's shoes

2007-09-17 Thread Doug Franklin
Toralf Lund wrote:
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 I thought of Toralf's shot of the shoes on the wire when I saw this
 article in our Sunday newspaper:

 http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-8/1189917390313570.xmlcoll=1

 Snopes has also looked into the practice of throwing shoes over
 telephone wires, and concluded there is no single exlanation for the
 practice:

 http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/sneakers.asp

The dorm where I resided a couple of quarters during my college career
didn't have a shoe line, but it did have a shoe tree.  It was
tradition that the students living in about three or four dorm buildings
that surrounded the tree would toss their old tennis shoes up in the
tree (laces tied together, natch) when replacements were purchased.
Don't know when it started or why, though.

When I lived in that dorm (~25 years ago) the tree typically boasted
around forty or fifty pairs at at time.  I visited three or four years
ago, the tradition has apparently waned.  There were only about ten pair
in the tree, and they all looked like they'd been there for a while.

I'll have to try to get down there this year and see what the tree looks
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Re: OT: New Laptop

2007-09-17 Thread Doug Franklin
mike wilson wrote:

 AVG anti virus ... Zone alarm firewall ...

I'll add my vote for AVG anti-virus free edition.  I've been using it
for several years.  Windows builds of ClamAV are also a good choice in
the free end of the market.

I'll throw my support behind Zone Alarm, too.  I use it even behind the
hardware firewall.  I use Zone Alarm to control which applications get
to talk to the world from inside my computer.  Most hardware firewalls
are very permissive about what traffic can go from inside to
outside, and Zone Alarm has helped me catch (and prevent) several
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PESO - Tele-World

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
http://tinyurl.com/38gjvh

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xgHjQnGI/AtM/uMfYAoB7DH8/s1600-h/sept_17+001.jpg

I'm still not sure what I think of this one.  I haven't decided if I
like it or not.

I know I don't like all those video monitors showing advertisements as
I walk down the hallway.  I don't know why I find it more offensive
than, say, a bunch of billboards along a roadside, but I do.

Intrusive technology and all, I suppose...

Thanks for looking and (possibly) commenting!

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Summer photogragraph of the Year

2007-09-17 Thread Jens Bladt
Hi guys
I've been away (sort of) for quite a while. The reason being spending time
with my new girl friend - Susan.
I took this shot of her three-year-old. This shot won the local camera club
annual competition Summer Photograph of the Year:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/1397136630/

Best Regards

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Re: GESO - Ford Roadster

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
awesome, I like the first one the most :o)

rg2

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 P. J. Alling wrote:
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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread Scott Loveless
Kenny is an Amazon Associate.  Basically, he gets paid if you follow the 
links on his site to Amazon and actually buy something.  Simply clicking 
through the links doesn't make him any money.  Businesses will often pay 
for a click through on sites that generate a lot of traffic.  Kenny's 
site is not one of these, and Ritz, Adorama and Amazon aren't going to 
pay him a dime unless you buy something.  See: 
http://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/join

If you want to see how this works, click the Amazon link on his site and 
pay particular attention to the URL.

The dealtime ads at the bottom probably generate click-through funds for 
Kenny.  Don't use them.

P. J. Alling wrote:
 I don't think he gets paid anything on advertising unless you click 
 through to the advertiser. A one cent donation will cost considerably 
 more in Paypal fees than he receives in cash. I think it's fare for the 
 information value. Give negative money for negative information. Not 
 that I'm advocating that. Nor will I personally do it, but it is an 
 amusingly evil idea.
 
 graywolf wrote:
 Isn't that about what he make in advertising fees every time a bunch of you 
 look at his website? I find it amusing that you guys laugh at him while you 
 are helping him make money. I suspect he finds that amusing as hell too.



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Re: PESO - Tele-World

2007-09-17 Thread pnstenquist
Nice composition. I like it. Advertisements are good. Pay attention, 
please.:-)).
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://tinyurl.com/38gjvh
 
 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xgHjQnGI/AtM/uMfYAoB7DH8/s1600-h/
 sept_17+001.jpg
 
 I'm still not sure what I think of this one.  I haven't decided if I
 like it or not.
 
 I know I don't like all those video monitors showing advertisements as
 I walk down the hallway.  I don't know why I find it more offensive
 than, say, a bunch of billboards along a roadside, but I do.
 
 Intrusive technology and all, I suppose...
 
 Thanks for looking and (possibly) commenting!
 
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Re: Summer photogragraph of the Year

2007-09-17 Thread pnstenquist
Excelent shot. A great moment, well composed.
Congratulations.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi guys
 I've been away (sort of) for quite a while. The reason being spending time
 with my new girl friend - Susan.
 I took this shot of her three-year-old. This shot won the local camera club
 annual competition Summer Photograph of the Year:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/1397136630/
 
 Best Regards
 
 Jens Bladt
 
 http://www.jensbladt.dk
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Re: Boris - Week 37 [PESO]

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/14/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 As per suggestions of one of my friends I had re-edit this image:
 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=18804full=1

 Have your say.


Lovely!

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Re: OT: New Laptop

2007-09-17 Thread graywolf
Idiot proof = expert proof

However, just to show how things go, my new computer just went poof. Shutdown 
like a power failure. I am so angry that I have decided not to try and 
troubleshoot it until I have calmed down for a few days. I would say it is a 
power supply problem only it has redundant supplies and I can hardly imagine 
both going at once. This is the first machine I have had all these problems 
with, and to make it worse it is all server/workstation grade stuff. Should 
have 
built a cheap desktop, I should of.



John Sessoms wrote:
 From:
 graywolf
 Having just done 3 installs, I can sympathize.
 The very first thing I do is turn off the balloons and shut down 
 Window Security Center. Like I need it telling me my computer is not 
 safe because I do not have windows firewall active when I am behind a 
 hardware firewall, and that I do not have all the latest updates 
 especially the microsoft spyware installed. Then I install AVG Free 
 and update it. That is the reason I use AVG Free as my AV because you 
 can keep it up to date without having to buy another copy every couple 
 of years. Then I have to install all the drivers. Since I build my own 
 systems they do not come with a pre-configured driver package. Then I 
 get to install all the software and configure it.

 I keep telling myself I need to make an install dvd that installs 
 everything in one pre-configured step, but I am too lazy to do that, 
 so I get to spend about a week setting up each computer.
 
 I've never tried building a laptop, and am not sure how I'd go about it. 
 I'm sure it can be done.
 
 I think I've only ever bought one desktop computer (my first 286 clone), 
 have built everything else I've ever used.
 
 One problem I'm having is I haven't found a central point to turn off 
 the balloons and the security center so they'll stay turned off. So far 
 I've only managed to get the User mode thingy turned off so it doesn't 
 prompt me to have to click yes I really wanted to open that window 
 every time I do anything.
 
 Every new version from Microsoft seems to be more obtuse and 
 user-unfriendly.
 

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Re: Summer photogragraph of the Year

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/17/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys
 I've been away (sort of) for quite a while. The reason being spending time
 with my new girl friend - Susan.
 I took this shot of her three-year-old. This shot won the local camera club
 annual competition Summer Photograph of the Year:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/1397136630/


A photo worthy of the prize, to be sure!

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Re: GESO - Ford Roadster

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/17/07, Gabriel Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Comments welcome.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabrielcain/sets/72157601967404614/


Terrific shots!

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Re: Test

2007-09-17 Thread Tim Øsleby
Spooky

Tim the Invisible Man,
who used to be Mostøy Harmless

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Hum, I don't think I saw this either...

Tim Øsleby wrote:
 Hah. You don't fool me Peter

 Tim Typo
 Mostly Harmless

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 Nope, I didn't see this.

 Adam Maas wrote:

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Re: PESO Eastmain Rapids, James Bay

2007-09-17 Thread graywolf
Cute, Bob, only my story happens to be true.

I spent a summer doing that for the Michigan Department of Transportation out 
of 
their Ann Arbor Sign Shop back in '82. I got a good half dozen good stories out 
of the experience, and a citation for helping out at and accident, well 
actually 
taking charge until the EMS and Police got there. All of which is a good thing 
because it sure did not pay a lot of money (seasonal employee, regular 
employees 
got paid well). But then in Michigan in '82 jobs were hard to come by at all, 
so 
can't really complain about that.


Bob W wrote:
 I used to be one of the crew on a truck which delivered
 nitro-glycerine to high-street chemist stores and school science labs.
 
 
 Because of budgetary constraints it wasn't possible to fit the trucks
 with pneumatic tyres, so we had to make wooden ones ourselves. 
 
 My job was to stand in the back holding a 50-gallon glass of nitro
 under each arm and jump up every time we approached a pot-hole in the
 road. The drivers used to play tricks and tell me we were approaching
 a pot-hole when we weren't really, so I'd jump and hit my head on the
 wagon roof. They thought it was such a lark.
 
 That's why I always wear a turban when driving.
 
 --
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 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of graywolf
 Sent: 16 September 2007 20:29
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO Eastmain Rapids, James Bay

 I once drove the front arrow truck for a highway department 
 line painting crew. You do not know what fun is until you 
 have to drive down a heavily traveled two lane road at rush 
 hour straddling the center line and forcing traffic onto the 
 shoulders so the paint truck behind you can repaint the 
 lines. Some of the 18 wheelers try to play chicken with you.

 Just thought I would help put your new job into perspective, 
 a couple of more trips and you will not think anything of it.


 
 

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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/15/07, Peter Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's a bit like my dog explaining quantum mechanics.

 http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/mtf.htm

 Thew most accurate and understandable line in the whole piece?

 MTF is way beyond the scope of this website

 Out of the mouths of babes, sucklings and kenny boy!


So,

If you want to take great photos, read good books.

What if I want to read great books?  What type of photos will I take then?

Then, when I clicked on the link about how to take great photos, I saw
this pearl of wisdom:

Your camera has NOTHING to do with making great photos.

Actually, I've always found that a camera is most helpful when I want
to take a great photo - or even when I want to take a shit photo, now
that I think of it.

cheers,
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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/17/07, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The six-stage Tour of Missouri ended today with an overall victory by
 George Hincappi of Team Discovery. When it began Tuesday, the first
 stage passed 3 miles from my home. Twice. But I was in Virginia. Got
 back in town Friday night, Saturday my wife and I drove to see Stage
 5. We saw the start in Jefferson City, then drove like crazy to
 intercept the race 65 miles down the road, then drove again to
 another interception point. The third spot was at the top of the
 longest climb of the race. I was able to position myself about 50m
 before the King of the Mountain line. The small linked gallery is
 from shots at that spot.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/GESO-TourOfMissouri/


Photos of men who shave their legs - what's not to like?

Wonderful gallery, Stan!

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Re: PESO - Tele-World

2007-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
It may be a Big Brother thing.(?)
The hall walkers demeanor could be seen as fearfully focused. or... the
first one to be noticed looking at the screen has to clean up the trash
being pointed out.
Fun to speculate about. I'd keep it, Frank.

Jack
--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/38gjvh
 

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xgHjQnGI/AtM/uMfYAoB7DH8/s1600-h/sept_17+001.jpg
 
 I'm still not sure what I think of this one.  I haven't decided if I
 like it or not.
 
 I know I don't like all those video monitors showing advertisements
 as
 I walk down the hallway.  I don't know why I find it more offensive
 than, say, a bunch of billboards along a roadside, but I do.
 
 Intrusive technology and all, I suppose...
 
 Thanks for looking and (possibly) commenting!
 
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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)

2007-09-17 Thread ann sanfedele
Frank, with my eyes there is still no detail in the man's suit :)

it looks better  in the new one from a technical point of view - it 
looks like you just made it a bit brighter and
added a bit of contrast, yes?

The shot is good regardless  - until you said you were lacking detail in 
the guys suit I didn't even notice -
I'm looking at what is happening in the photo, not the buttons on the 
guys suit...

nice shot !

ann


frank theriault wrote:

Still learning PS and processing generally.  I'm afraid that my film
days made me lazy (here, Robert, print these the way you always do).
 Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
no detail in the man's suit.

Here's the re-working:

http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg

Here's last weeks muddy rendering:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg

Improvement?  Other comments?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: PESO - Excuse Me

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/15/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have seen that face a 1000 times.:-)

 Nice


Thanks, Dave and Keith for your comments!

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Re: PESO - Excuse Me

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/15/07, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hmmm - not any detail on mine...  I bet your laptop is way brighter...
 The detail in kitty is fine and the light to dark is good on my screen

I went home on the weekend, and there was (again) plenty of detail in
the bowl on my laptop - and I was looking at the online photo, I
didn't just go into PS or whatever.


 I guess there is a good reason kitty looks familiar :)

Yeah, but when you saw her, she was in colour.  BTW, Patches is still
awaiting that royalty cheque for being in your calendar!

;-)

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Re: Pentax broke my camera

2007-09-17 Thread skye pdml
I thought you were joking, but in fact this is exactly what they
offered to give me, without my prompting them in this direction at all
-- and they emailed me first thing on Monday morning. As I replied
back, I am finally feeling taken care of, and no additional snarky
comments are necessary on my part.

Thanks all, for your sympathy and extra advice - it got me through the weekend.

--skye

On 9/15/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would try a different, fully charged battery, and if that doesn't
 work, tell them you want a new camera. Immediately. I'm sure some
 Pentax folk will see your message here.
 Paul
 On Sep 14, 2007, at 9:19 PM, skye pdml wrote:

  here you go - thought you guys would like to read an email I sent off
  tonight to Phil Kerswill who's a manager in the Product Support Dept.
  (BTW I've been giving Phil a hard time for hanging onto my camera for
  6 weeks, so you'll have to read around the sarcasm a little bit)

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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling
There are elements in each that are improvements. You need to combine 
the two.

frank theriault wrote:
 Still learning PS and processing generally.  I'm afraid that my film
 days made me lazy (here, Robert, print these the way you always do).
  Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
 no detail in the man's suit.

 Here's the re-working:

 http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg

 Here's last weeks muddy rendering:

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg

 Improvement?  Other comments?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling

 Photos of men who shave their legs - what's not to like?
This is so wrong, on just so many levels...


frank theriault wrote:
 On 9/17/07, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 The six-stage Tour of Missouri ended today with an overall victory by
 George Hincappi of Team Discovery. When it began Tuesday, the first
 stage passed 3 miles from my home. Twice. But I was in Virginia. Got
 back in town Friday night, Saturday my wife and I drove to see Stage
 5. We saw the start in Jefferson City, then drove like crazy to
 intercept the race 65 miles down the road, then drove again to
 another interception point. The third spot was at the top of the
 longest climb of the race. I was able to position myself about 50m
 before the King of the Mountain line. The small linked gallery is
 from shots at that spot.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/GESO-TourOfMissouri/

 

 Photos of men who shave their legs - what's not to like?

 Wonderful gallery, Stan!

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Re: PESO - Tele-World

2007-09-17 Thread Adam Maas
Especially since those TV's are all playing really bad Vista ads.

-Adam


P. J. Alling wrote:
 You think this is bad? Just wait until they can beam it directly into 
 your brain...
 
 frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/38gjvh

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xgHjQnGI/AtM/uMfYAoB7DH8/s1600-h/sept_17+001.jpg

 I'm still not sure what I think of this one.  I haven't decided if I
 like it or not.

 I know I don't like all those video monitors showing advertisements as
 I walk down the hallway.  I don't know why I find it more offensive
 than, say, a bunch of billboards along a roadside, but I do.

 Intrusive technology and all, I suppose...

 Thanks for looking and (possibly) commenting!

 cheers,
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Re: OT: Life will never be the same again

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/16/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We're probably not supposed to laugh at stuff like this:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/6958580.stm


I didn't realize that the middle path included ride-on power mowers...

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Re: PESO - Tele-World

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/17/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Especially since those TV's are all playing really bad Vista ads.


There's that, too...

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ATTN: Ken W

2007-09-17 Thread graywolf
Ken, I do not have your address on this computer and the main one is 
temporarily 
out of service. Please email me.

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PESO - Cattail

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
The background is what really made this interesting for me.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
ISO 100, 1/90 sec @ f/4, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5036a.htm

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How did we ever do it?

2007-09-17 Thread graywolf
Being on this old 15 inch monitor temporarily  (I hope), I have to ask, how did 
we ever do photo stuff on them. It is woefully tiny. I seems inadiquate for 
email even. However, the color may be better than 19 Hitachi, which is scary 
because that particular Hitachi was considered the best monitor available at 
any 
price (and it was over $800) back when it was new (about 1998-99).

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PESO - Fall Approaches

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Morning light as the plants and trees see the summer waning - foliage
is starting to change.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5024a.htm

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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/17/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gee, I have to mostly agree with the other guy on this one. You of course have
 to have a camera to take photos, but which one makes little difference whether
 they are great photos or not. Crappy photos can be shot with almost any 
 camera,
 and great photos can be shot with almost any camera. The difference is the nut
 behind the camera, to paraphrase another saying.

Of course that's what he ~meant~.  You and I both know what he
~meant~.  But that's not what he ~said~.

He said that my camera has NOTHING to do with making great photos.
My point is that without a camera, even HCB couldn't take a great
photo.

One could be a wag and say that, no camera that frank owns will ever
have anything to do with taking good photos, but ~that's~ not what he
meant either.

At least, I don't think so...

;-)

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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice colorful, action shots.

FWIW - Stan, there's no need to post images as large as you have, that 
causes scrolling which degrades the overall viewing IMHO. I suggest no 
bigger than around 850 px high or 600px wide

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


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From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)


 The six-stage Tour of Missouri ended today with an overall victory by
 George Hincappi of Team Discovery. When it began Tuesday, the first
 stage passed 3 miles from my home. Twice. But I was in Virginia. Got
 back in town Friday night, Saturday my wife and I drove to see Stage
 5. We saw the start in Jefferson City, then drove like crazy to
 intercept the race 65 miles down the road, then drove again to
 another interception point. The third spot was at the top of the
 longest climb of the race. I was able to position myself about 50m
 before the King of the Mountain line. The small linked gallery is
 from shots at that spot.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/GESO-TourOfMissouri/

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Re: September PUG -- Toralf's shoes

2007-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
 Snopes has also looked into the practice of throwing shoes over
 telephone wires, and concluded there is no single exlanation for the
 practice:

Around here, I've noticed wire-hung sneakers around schools  always assumed 
it was done be kids @ the end of the school year.

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From: Toralf Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: September PUG -- Toralf's shoes


 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 It is an interesting gallery, and I enjoyed all the potographs.

 I thought of Toralf's shot of the shoes on the wire when I saw this
 article in our Sunday newspaper:

 http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-8/1189917390313570.xmlcoll=1

 Snopes has also looked into the practice of throwing shoes over
 telephone wires, and concluded there is no single exlanation for the
 practice:

 http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/sneakers.asp

 Interesting... So maybe I live in Gangland. Or a drug-infested area.
 Although the thought of aircraft flying at this altitude is perhaps the
 scariest of all...

 I'm more inclined to assume that the shoes were put there by other
 people who had read articles like this, however. But at the same time, I
 can't quite shake the thought that this is some sort of memorial for a
 person who died, which had also entered my mind earlier ;-(

 Another peculiarity of my shoes is that they were painted green - in
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 probably worn off in the picture posted, but I think you can see some
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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling
We could say that, but that would be shooting fish in a barrel...

frank theriault wrote:
 On 9/17/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Gee, I have to mostly agree with the other guy on this one. You of course 
 have
 to have a camera to take photos, but which one makes little difference 
 whether
 they are great photos or not. Crappy photos can be shot with almost any 
 camera,
 and great photos can be shot with almost any camera. The difference is the 
 nut
 behind the camera, to paraphrase another saying.
 

 Of course that's what he ~meant~.  You and I both know what he
 ~meant~.  But that's not what he ~said~.

 He said that my camera has NOTHING to do with making great photos.
 My point is that without a camera, even HCB couldn't take a great
 photo.

 One could be a wag and say that, no camera that frank owns will ever
 have anything to do with taking good photos, but ~that's~ not what he
 meant either.

 At least, I don't think so...

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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/17/07, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 P.S.  That should read George Hincappe of Team Discovery Channel.

Actually, it's Hincape

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PESO - Temple

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Sacramento LDS Temple taken at dusk.

K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 28mm
ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld

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PESO - Takin' in the scenery

2007-09-17 Thread Walter Hamler
Great shot!!  They must be female.  :-)

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PESO - Takin' in the scenery

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
When I looked at this one, I couldn't help but feel like these two
flowers were both looking out at something while they stood and
talked.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 115mm
ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ f/4, Handheld

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Re: PESO - Fall Approaches

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
I love the contrast of colors in this picture.

rg2


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 Morning light as the plants and trees see the summer waning - foliage
 is starting to change.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5024a.htm

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Re: PESO - Cattail

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
The background is what really made this interesting for me.

Yup, the background is awesome.

rg2

On 9/17/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The background is what really made this interesting for me.

 I agree. I wish the subject was a little off center.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


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 Subject: PESO - Cattail


  The background is what really made this interesting for me.
 
  Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
  ISO 100, 1/90 sec @ f/4, Handheld
 
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5036a.htm
 
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Re: Summer photogragraph of the Year

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
Great picture, congratulations!

rg2

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 On 9/17/07, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys
  I've been away (sort of) for quite a while. The reason being spending time
  with my new girl friend - Susan.
  I took this shot of her three-year-old. This shot won the local camera club
  annual competition Summer Photograph of the Year:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/1397136630/
 

 A photo worthy of the prize, to be sure!

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Re: How did we ever do it?

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
agreed, especially since I got mine free.  no complaints here - if
anything, I can pretend my pictures are sharp because I have to view
them smaller than you ;)

rg2

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 Mine's 15 and perfectly satisfactory.

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  Subject: How did we ever do it?
 
  Being on this old 15 inch monitor temporarily  (I hope), I
  have to ask, how did
  we ever do photo stuff on them. It is woefully tiny. I seems
  inadiquate for
  email even. However, the color may be better than 19
  Hitachi, which is scary
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RE: How did we ever do it?

2007-09-17 Thread Bob W
Mine's 15 and perfectly satisfactory.

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 Being on this old 15 inch monitor temporarily  (I hope), I 
 have to ask, how did 
 we ever do photo stuff on them. It is woefully tiny. I seems 
 inadiquate for 
 email even. However, the color may be better than 19 
 Hitachi, which is scary 
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Re: PESO - Cattail

2007-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
 The background is what really made this interesting for me.

I agree. I wish the subject was a little off center.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


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Subject: PESO - Cattail


 The background is what really made this interesting for me.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 100, 1/90 sec @ f/4, Handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5036a.htm
 
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Re: PESO - Fall Approaches

2007-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very nice execution of a very ugly subject - IMHO.

Kenneth Waller
http://tinyurl.com/272u2f


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Subject: PESO - Fall Approaches


 Morning light as the plants and trees see the summer waning - foliage
 is starting to change.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5024a.htm
 
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Re: PESO - Fall Approaches

2007-09-17 Thread pnstenquist
Like this one a lot. Don't know that I'd call it ugly. :-).
Paul
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 Very nice execution of a very ugly subject - IMHO.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 
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 Subject: PESO - Fall Approaches
 
 
  Morning light as the plants and trees see the summer waning - foliage
  is starting to change.
  
  Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
  ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld
  
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5024a.htm
  
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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote:

 You and I both know what he ~meant~.  
 But that's not what he ~said~.

Kenny's only hope of ever saying anything worth noting lies in*not* 
saying what he means. And as this so clearly illustrates, even 
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PESO - Forgotten

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
At the end of the growing season, this tomato was still on the vine,
even though the vine had already browned.  You can see the fluid
starting to leave the tomato.

Pentax K10D, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro, reflector lit left side
ISO 100, 1/180 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

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PESO - Cattail

2007-09-17 Thread Walter Hamler
It needs some yellow mustard to top it off!  :-)

I haven't seen many of those around here in FL. They were common in MD.

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Re: PESO - Takin' in the scenery

2007-09-17 Thread pnstenquist
Nice concept. It would benefit from a bit more DOF. The bloom on the left is 
somewhat soft.
Paul
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 When I looked at this one, I couldn't help but feel like these two
 flowers were both looking out at something while they stood and
 talked.
 
 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 115mm
 ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ f/4, Handheld
 
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Re: PESO - Tele-World

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
You know, this picture almost looks like an optical illusion because
it's hard to find a vertical line in this picture - the columns change
width and the TV screen is tilted, so my eyes are left wandering for a
properly straight line, which is an interesting effect.  I think that
is a great shot - although I hate those darn TV's.  They have them at
my Walmart, and even if you can't see the screen you can hear it, and
it's always this woman with a horrible southern accent...arg...

rg2

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  Especially since those TV's are all playing really bad Vista ads.
 

 There's that, too...

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Re: Kenny Boy does MTF

2007-09-17 Thread graywolf
Gee, I have to mostly agree with the other guy on this one. You of course have 
to have a camera to take photos, but which one makes little difference whether 
they are great photos or not. Crappy photos can be shot with almost any camera, 
and great photos can be shot with almost any camera. The difference is the nut 
behind the camera, to paraphrase another saying.


frank theriault wrote:

 
 Then, when I clicked on the link about how to take great photos, I saw
 this pearl of wisdom:
 
 Your camera has NOTHING to do with making great photos.
 
 Actually, I've always found that a camera is most helpful when I want
 to take a great photo - or even when I want to take a shit photo, now
 that I think of it.

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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread pnstenquist
Excellent shot. I've found it very difficult to sell the gallery on children 
pics, but this is a very nice one. Good luck.
Paul
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 hey,
 
 I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for review,
 but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
 Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.
 
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5111251841033
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PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
hey,

I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for review,
but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.


http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf

http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5111251841033552002


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Re: How did we ever do it?

2007-09-17 Thread Dave Kennedy
I upgraded to a 17in CRT just over a year ago, when the 15in died. You
get along with what you have I suppose.

dk

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 agreed, especially since I got mine free.  no complaints here - if
 anything, I can pretend my pictures are sharp because I have to view
 them smaller than you ;)

 rg2

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   have to ask, how did
   we ever do photo stuff on them. It is woefully tiny. I seems
   inadiquate for
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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread frank theriault
On 9/17/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Page 34, Frank:
 http://www.rapha.cc/images/Rapha_Spring_Summer_07.pdf

I don't particularly get my jollies from looking at photos of them
doing the actual shaving.  Some might, not me...

;-)

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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
I remember this one coming through.  It got a yes vote from me.  The
expressions are great.  Will it make it in the gallery?  Who knows.
It seems to be much more landscape oriented - less on people.

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R hey,

R I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for review,
R but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
R Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.


R http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf

R 
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Re: PESO - Tele-World

2007-09-17 Thread P. J. Alling
You think this is bad? Just wait until they can beam it directly into 
your brain...

frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/38gjvh

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xgHjQnGI/AtM/uMfYAoB7DH8/s1600-h/sept_17+001.jpg

 I'm still not sure what I think of this one.  I haven't decided if I
 like it or not.

 I know I don't like all those video monitors showing advertisements as
 I walk down the hallway.  I don't know why I find it more offensive
 than, say, a bunch of billboards along a roadside, but I do.

 Intrusive technology and all, I suppose...

 Thanks for looking and (possibly) commenting!

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Re: How did we ever do it?

2007-09-17 Thread John Whittingham
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:30:04 -0400, graywolf wrote
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 ask, how did we ever do photo stuff on them. It is woefully tiny. I 
 seems inadiquate for email even. However, the color may be better 
 than 19 Hitachi, which is scary because that particular Hitachi was 
 considered the best monitor available at any price (and it was over 
 $800) back when it was new (about 1998-99).

LOL, I'm still working with whatever my employer chucks out, currently 
Samsung 17 CRT.

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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread pnstenquist
I think that from among my gallery shots, people pics outnumber all other 
categories. But from among those, only one is a child.
Paul
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 I remember this one coming through.  It got a yes vote from me.  The
 expressions are great.  Will it make it in the gallery?  Who knows.
 It seems to be much more landscape oriented - less on people.
 
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 R I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for review,
 R but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
 R Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.
 
 
 R http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf
 
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Re: K10D Auto Rotate Problem

2007-09-17 Thread Mark Cassino

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ugh, sounds like the orientation sensor has been
 schnockered.
 
 Try taking the battery out and leaving it sit for
 two-three days.  
 These cameras have a capacitor to hold settings
 while you're charging  
 or changing batteries, you have to give that
 capacitor time to be  
 exhausted for the camera to re-set to all defaults
 unless you have  
 access to the internal service routines.

Thanks, Godfrey. I pulled the battery Friday
afternoon, and let the camera sit for the weekend.
This morning the auto-rotation is working just fine.
The custom settings had been re-set to their default -
so apparently the camera stores some sort of
orientation info in it's memory.

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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
It must just be me, but I see no difference in the cropping between the
two images. 8-()

Jack

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 tried cropping it here:
 

http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5111251841033552002
 
 but now it looks somewhat tight to me, and I'm not sure I like it.
 What do you think?
 
 
 rg2
 
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  Lovely shot.
 
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   hey,
  
   I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for
 review,
   but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
   Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.
  
  
   http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf
  
   http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05
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Re: Coming home

2007-09-17 Thread Cotty
On 18/09/07, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:



How is everyone?

It's been a while, and I've missed the chat. Had a look at the new sleek 
PUG too. Lovely work.

Nice to be back
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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
I remember this one coming through.  It got a yes vote from me.  The
expressions are great.

thanks Bruce, that means a lot to me.


It must just be me, but I see no difference in the cropping between the
two images. 8-()


really?  try clicking the small blue arrow at the top of the picture,
it goes between the two images

rg2

On 9/17/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It must just be me, but I see no difference in the cropping between the
 two images. 8-()

 Jack

 --- Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  wow, thanks for the compliments!  I'll cross my fingers and hope it
  gets in.  Jack, I agree that the softness is a distraction, and I
  tried cropping it here:
 
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5111251841033552002
 
  but now it looks somewhat tight to me, and I'm not sure I like it.
  What do you think?
 
 
  rg2
 
  On 9/17/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Lovely shot.
  
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Sent: 17 September 2007 20:10
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Subject: PESO: Siblings
   
hey,
   
I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for
  review,
but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.
   
   
http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf
   
http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05
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Re: PESO - Takin' in the scenery

2007-09-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/09/07, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:

When I looked at this one, I couldn't help but feel like these two
flowers were both looking out at something while they stood and
talked.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 115mm
ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ f/4, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5037a.htm

I like this one - fun glimpsing around and finding areas in focus,
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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/09/07, Rebekah, discombobulated, unleashed:

hey,

I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for review,
but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.


http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf

http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-
i05p28o#5111251841033552002

That's nice. The spontaneous nature forgives the lack of DOF. Well done.

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Re: PESO - Cattail

2007-09-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
ISO 100, 1/90 sec @ f/4, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5036a.htm

-

Bruce, excellent as always.

I find my eye unable to decide, though, which item to focus on.

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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)

2007-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
FWIW - I like the reworking although you've lost some detail.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)


 Still learning PS and processing generally.  I'm afraid that my film
 days made me lazy (here, Robert, print these the way you always do).
 Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was muddy and there was
 no detail in the man's suit.

 Here's the re-working:

 http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg

 Here's last weeks muddy rendering:

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg

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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread John Francis

I don't think it's shutter speed; it looks more to me as though the
plane of sharpest focus is somewhat behind the principal subject in
most of the images, maybe because the wrong AF sensor is being used.

I know from experience, though, just how hard it is to photograph an
event like this - you get practically no time to decide on the shot.


P.S.  That should read George Hincappe of Team Discovery Channel.


On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 06:05:45AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Nice framing and color, but they all appear to be a bit soft. Shutter  
 speed?
 Paul
 On Sep 17, 2007, at 1:11 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 
  The six-stage Tour of Missouri ended today with an overall victory by
  George Hincappi of Team Discovery. When it began Tuesday, the first
  stage passed 3 miles from my home. Twice. But I was in Virginia. Got
  back in town Friday night, Saturday my wife and I drove to see Stage
  5. We saw the start in Jefferson City, then drove like crazy to
  intercept the race 65 miles down the road, then drove again to
  another interception point. The third spot was at the top of the
  longest climb of the race. I was able to position myself about 50m
  before the King of the Mountain line. The small linked gallery is
  from shots at that spot.
 
  http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/GESO-TourOfMissouri/
 
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Re: K10D Auto Rotate Problem

2007-09-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That's excellent, I'm glad it was able to turn the trick.

Godfrey

On Sep 17, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Mark Cassino wrote:

 Try taking the battery out and leaving it sit for
 two-three days.
 These cameras have a capacitor to hold settings
 while you're charging
 or changing batteries, you have to give that
 capacitor time to be
 exhausted for the camera to re-set to all defaults
 unless you have
 access to the internal service routines.

 Thanks, Godfrey. I pulled the battery Friday
 afternoon, and let the camera sit for the weekend.
 This morning the auto-rotation is working just fine.
 The custom settings had been re-set to their default -
 so apparently the camera stores some sort of
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RE: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread Bob W
 
  http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/GESO-TourOfMissouri/
 
 
 Photos of men who shave their legs - what's not to like?
 
 Wonderful gallery, Stan!
 

Page 34, Frank:
http://www.rapha.cc/images/Rapha_Spring_Summer_07.pdf

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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
OH..I see. I agree, that is way too tight.
I had in mind a horizontal in a aspect ratio approximating that of 4X6.
No left right crop, just the bottom.
Actually, you have a really nice shot here and one that needs no
fixing.

Jack
--- Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I remember this one coming through.  It got a yes vote from me.  The
 expressions are great.
 
 thanks Bruce, that means a lot to me.
 
 
 It must just be me, but I see no difference in the cropping between
 the
 two images. 8-()
 
 
 really?  try clicking the small blue arrow at the top of the picture,
 it goes between the two images
 
 rg2
 
 On 9/17/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It must just be me, but I see no difference in the cropping between
 the
  two images. 8-()
 
  Jack
 
  --- Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   wow, thanks for the compliments!  I'll cross my fingers and hope
 it
   gets in.  Jack, I agree that the softness is a distraction, and I
   tried cropping it here:
  
  
 

http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5111251841033552002
  
   but now it looks somewhat tight to me, and I'm not sure I like
 it.
   What do you think?
  
  
   rg2
  
   On 9/17/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lovely shot.
   
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 Sent: 17 September 2007 20:10
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 Subject: PESO: Siblings

 hey,

 I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for
   review,
 but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this
 picture.
 Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.


 http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf


 http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05
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RE: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Bob W
Lovely shot.

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 Subject: PESO: Siblings
 
 hey,
 
 I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for review,
 but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
 Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.
 
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05
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Re: PESO - Fall Approaches

2007-09-17 Thread Kenneth Waller
Don't know that I'd call it ugly. :-)

You're right. How about unappealing ?

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 Like this one a lot. Don't know that I'd call it ugly. :-).
 Paul
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 Very nice execution of a very ugly subject - IMHO.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 
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 From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Subject: PESO - Fall Approaches
 
 
  Morning light as the plants and trees see the summer waning - foliage
  is starting to change.
  
  Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
  ISO 200, 1/350 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld
  
  http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5024a.htm
  
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Re: GESO - Tour of Missouri (pro cycling race)

2007-09-17 Thread Rick Womer
Great pics, Stan...

They would have been even better if you had kept the
vertical dimension to 600 pixels, so that we didn't
have to scroll up and down.

Rick

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 The six-stage Tour of Missouri ended today with an
 overall victory by  
 George Hincappi of Team Discovery. When it began
 Tuesday, the first  
 stage passed 3 miles from my home. Twice. But I was
 in Virginia. Got  
 back in town Friday night, Saturday my wife and I
 drove to see Stage  
 5. We saw the start in Jefferson City, then drove
 like crazy to  
 intercept the race 65 miles down the road, then
 drove again to  
 another interception point. The third spot was at
 the top of the  
 longest climb of the race. I was able to position
 myself about 50m  
 before the King of the Mountain line. The small
 linked gallery is  
 from shots at that spot.
 

http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/GESO-TourOfMissouri/
 
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Re: PESO - Interaction with Others (reprise)

2007-09-17 Thread Rick Womer
Definitely better!

Good shot, too.

Rick

--- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Still learning PS and processing generally.  I'm
 afraid that my film
 days made me lazy (here, Robert, print these the
 way you always do).
  Anyway, I posted this one last week, and it was
 muddy and there was
 no detail in the man's suit.
 
 Here's the re-working:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/ywexlq
 

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Ru5xZnjQnFI/AtE/y98a-Yn5_pY/s1600-h/sept_17+002.jpg
 
 Here's last weeks muddy rendering:
 

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/Rt_0A12ieoI/Aqk/U76iS-Lcjsc/s1600-h/sept_6.jpg
 
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Re: PESO - Takin' in the scenery

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks.  It is probably worth noting that when I took the shot, I did
not really 'see' what I wrote about - that came after.  So the focus
is what it is.

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Monday, September 17, 2007, 3:31:25 PM, you wrote:

C On 17/09/07, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed:

When I looked at this one, I couldn't help but feel like these two
flowers were both looking out at something while they stood and
talked.

Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 115mm
ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ f/4, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5037a.htm

C I like this one - fun glimpsing around and finding areas in focus,
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Re: Coming home

2007-09-17 Thread Bruce Dayton
Welcome back!

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DC How is everyone?

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Re: PESO - Temple

2007-09-17 Thread Rick Womer
Doesn't quite work for me, Bruce.  That tower (at
least) would really like to be lit more, so that it
stands out from the sky better.

Rick

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 Sacramento LDS Temple taken at dusk.
 
 K10D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 28mm
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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
Rebekah,
Certainly one for the album!
I'd like to try it with the bottom cropped to just above the knees of
big brother. The softness is distracting to me.

Jack
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Re: PESO: Siblings

2007-09-17 Thread Rebekah
wow, thanks for the compliments!  I'll cross my fingers and hope it
gets in.  Jack, I agree that the softness is a distraction, and I
tried cropping it here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05p28o#5111251841033552002

but now it looks somewhat tight to me, and I'm not sure I like it.
What do you think?


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On 9/17/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lovely shot.

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  hey,
 
  I submitted this to the gallery, and it's still waiting for review,
  but I wanted to see what everyone here thought of this picture.
  Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.
 
 
  http://tinyurl.com/2j5qrf
 
  http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/PESO/photo?authkey=W1C-i05
  p28o#5111251841033552002
 
 
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Re: PESO - Takin' in the scenery

2007-09-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 17, 2007, at 13:36, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 When I looked at this one, I couldn't help but feel like these two
 flowers were both looking out at something while they stood and
 talked.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 115mm
 ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ f/4, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5037a.htm


Cute.  I sure wish they were both in focus, though.  Sorry.

  -Charles

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Coming home

2007-09-17 Thread Derby Chang


How is everyone?

It's been a while, and I've missed the chat. Had a look at the new sleek 
PUG too. Lovely work.

Nice to be back
Derby

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