Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
Exactly right, and my point (which I hope you were seeing). :-) I may not intrinsically like a certain image. But nevertheless, it may be a good image in numerous ways. If I poo-poo it because it's one I would not hang on my wall, then I am judging it subjectively. If I recognize it for qualities which make it rise above, in spite of my preferences of subject matter, then hopefully I'm being objective and fair. If I praise it because it's a poor image, yet of a pretty subject, that might be unfair as well. If I praise it simply because I enjoy photographs... well.. of what value is that? Subjectivity is personal, right? We all have that. As photographers, what I, hopefully you, and ohers wish to avoid, is the notion that because *I* took the photograph, it's a good one. It's hard not to let ego interfere. Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:49:38 -0700 I see this thread has been exciting ... unpleasantly so. On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Tom C wrote: So if I don't care for the subject matter of the photo it's right for me to state I think it's a poor image, regardless of any other qualities it may possess? Tom, If the subject matter of a photo is not to your liking, the most you should say is just that. Otherwise, you're acting like a pompous buffoon. Unless there is something about the photo, UNRELATED to the subject matter and whether you like it or not, that is worthy of some positive or constructive remark. And then you should make that remark and shut up. A poor image is something else entirely, not related one whit to whether you like the subject matter. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
The usual responses I get are, Gee that's great, You should be a professional, or my personal favorite, You must have a good camera, while good for the ego, aren't very useful. I have produced plenty of inferior work and don't hesitate to say so. I still do. I only choose to display that which is better than my usual junk. Me too. And I try to only show the good stuff, but sometimes I have a lapse in judgment. Cheers, Dave Totally honest and objective Dave! I have lapses also. I'll be happy to tell you what I think, openly and honestly, and you can tell me. I wish it was this way across the board. I realize there maybe be a small % of opinions I disagree with generally (damn there's ego again). Often I find weeks or months later I agree with those. There's an image I showed months back, grayscale of trees in fog. Bill Robb suggested a different rendering and displayed it. I didn't like his rendering more than mine. In retrospect, I don't like mine either. Try as I did, I determined it was a well seen image, captured poorly, probably impossible to make good. One better not to have shown in the first place. I simply failed all around, no reason to think otherwise. Failure is not bad. Failure to recognize a failure as a failure is the problem. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
One other thought, as you allude to... I often refrain from commenting negatively on a genre which I feel I have little experience or knowledge in. OTOH, I sometimes see outstanding images in those genres I never would have seen or taken, and say so. Tom C. From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:49:38 -0700 I see this thread has been exciting ... unpleasantly so. On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Tom C wrote: So if I don't care for the subject matter of the photo it's right for me to state I think it's a poor image, regardless of any other qualities it may possess? Tom, If the subject matter of a photo is not to your liking, the most you should say is just that. Otherwise, you're acting like a pompous buffoon. Unless there is something about the photo, UNRELATED to the subject matter and whether you like it or not, that is worthy of some positive or constructive remark. And then you should make that remark and shut up. A poor image is something else entirely, not related one whit to whether you like the subject matter. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SMCPA* 200/2.8
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 06:45:25AM +0100, Peter Fairweather wrote: The A* 200/2.8 was my first foray into good glass. I've still got it, and with the smaller sensor of the DSLRs it's getting a fair bit more use, especially paired with the AF 1.7x adapter Oddly enough I am thinking of selling this combination. My eyesight is not up to manual focus and I have the FA* 300 for the longer length. That's why it's often paired with the 1.7x AF adapter - my eyes aren't up to manual focus, either. Plus, of course, I've got the 80-200/f2.8 which covers me up to 200mm - albeit at a substantial weight penalty - and allows me to use any auto-focus point; the AF adapter limits me to only using the central AF point, which can sometimes be a problem. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
I == It - typo! On 10/18/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, I does work for me. Boris Adam Maas wrote: Caught this on the way home with the new DS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/1607393214/ Large/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1607393214_58f37cb487_b.jpg *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/60, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ISO 800. -Adam -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
List - I behaved badly. I apologize. Back later, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
On 17/10/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: I stand corrected.. You're a shitbag!! (ah the camaraderie ;-))) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
As Paul says, Almost. To my eye it's a bit of camera shake (which is why the rear of the car is slightly blurred), plus the change in angle during the shot which makes the front of the car even more blurred than the rear). A K10D would help cut down on the camera shake :-) I assume the vignetting is a deliberate editing step; I think you should either mask it considerably more, or omit that step. Just for fun, I played around with the image a little: http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/adams_porsche.jpg On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:26:52PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Almost. Either a bit out of focus or a bit too much camera shake. Probably the latter as I can't quite find a focal point. Paul On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:36 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Caught this on the way home with the new DS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/1607393214/ Large/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1607393214_58f37cb487_b.jpg *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/60, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ISO 800. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
On 17/10/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: (She's thrilled with the DOF scale next to the focusing ring.) Got her number ? ;-)) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Built-in flash and syncro flashes
You can't use the K100D (or K10D) built in flash as a trigger flash for slaves, normally, as the P-TTL preflash will fire the slaves early. Best thing to do is to fit a small flash unit with an IR filter over the main tube. That will not pre-flash and will fire the slaves at the right time. Or use an RF wireless flash trigger. Godfrey On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:34 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote: I hoped to be able to use built-in flash of my K100D to release BIG Electra 80 slave flash units but o my surprise them always lighted late, from my experience I can say they start with main flash lights goes off and only reason they late can be that built-in flash releases before the second curtain, not at 1st curtain as I'd expect. Since there's nothing I can readjust in the menu perhaps only thing is to buy descent wired flash unit for my studio. This would be launched at first curtain opening, by the syncro cable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Built-in flash and syncro flashes
Hey list, I hoped to be able to use built-in flash of my K100D to release BIG Electra 80 slave flash units but o my surprise them always lighted late, from my experience I can say they start with main flash lights goes off and only reason they late can be that built-in flash releases before the second curtain, not at 1st curtain as I'd expect. Since there's nothing I can readjust in the menu perhaps only thing is to buy descent wired flash unit for my studio. This would be launched at first curtain opening, by the syncro cable. -- new photos once and again... roman.blakout.net http://roman.blakout.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Modesty
Yes indeed a link might help http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20modesty.html P. J. Alling wrote: Pure silliness! [Warning Dog Picture Ahead] Equipment: Pentax *ist-D/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm [AL] Note: On camera Flash As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Olympus E-3 joins pro game: Digital Photography Review
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Striving for adequate; was Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
Tom C wrote: To your last point, I agree, but ask, who is striving for adequate? Maybe some are. Adequate means the vacation shot gets included in the family album. If that's what I'm shooting for, fine, but I'm generally trying to achieve something beyond that. I have three categories of photography. 1. Photos I take when I'm dismantling something and need to know how it goes back together. As long as the series of pictures show what I need to know, adequate is just fine. 2. Selling on eBay. Over the last couple of years I've seen three images appear, where I have been surprised to see not only something like a picture I took for an item, but it sitting on my table and on my carpet! I got all three images removed but what annoys me most, is that if someone had asked if I would mind if they used my image, and said that it wasn't their picture (but mine) and what they had was very similar, I would have been happy for them to use it. To digress slightly, I said before in another thread on people taking pictures and claiming (or at least implying the work was their own) one of these people admitted he didn't have a camera and it was just as easy to take and use one from the web somewhere! For the last few months I have therefore purposely taken non-perfect pictures for this use; clear enough to see what is for sale but not good enough to steal for someone else to use. I presume if you intend to nick one for your own use, you take a good one, as I've not had the problem since. 3. Photographs for pleasure. Here I don't strive for adequate. I do occasionally do silly things like look at the back of an LX to see how a picture came out! I am slowly over time using digital more. There are however, times where I do strive for adequate. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rose is Rose [trying not to laugh]
I like the pose and composition. The high light source isn't ideal but it works here. A bit too warm and oversaturated perhaps. Paul On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:12 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Another shot with the A 24 f2.8 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--% 20roseisrose.html Equipment: Pentax *Ds/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/18 Thu AM 07:08:07 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? On 17/10/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: (She's thrilled with the DOF scale next to the focusing ring.) Got her number ? ;-)) He's already told you. 28/2.8 Pay attention at the back! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Built-in flash and syncro flashes
What shutter speed are you using? From: Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/10/18 Thu AM 07:34:12 GMT To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Built-in flash and syncro flashes Hey list, I hoped to be able to use built-in flash of my K100D to release BIG Electra 80 slave flash units but o my surprise them always lighted late, from my experience I can say they start with main flash lights goes off and only reason they late can be that built-in flash releases before the second curtain, not at 1st curtain as I'd expect. Since there's nothing I can readjust in the menu perhaps only thing is to buy descent wired flash unit for my studio. This would be launched at first curtain opening, by the syncro cable. -- new photos once and again... roman.blakout.net http://roman.blakout.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Non enablement
Is there something new since the last one that allowed for trailing curtain stuff.?? Thats tha last one i uploaded and my focusing seems k still Dave On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Non enablement I've gone a long time without buying as well. The last big purchase was the K10D. I need the DA* 50-135/2.8. Stat. I loved the thing. Its supposed to be available here just in time for my birthday. I will try to hold out for the 60-250, but I fear I might succumb to both. Did you upgrade your firmware to test the SDM AF? Cheers, Dave P.S. I've recently confirmed my suspicion that I have a back focus issue I'm glad that I hadn't upgraded the firmware. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan
Not sure. My understanding from the other drivers is that it will be through Chicago and up 39. My quess is we leave Mississauga Ontario Monday around 8 am. No tape or CD player in my truck. I'll bring ,my ipod and speakers. Out of the frying pan, into the fire now eh.:-) Dave Dave On 10/17/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .i find out, a possible trip monday to Janesville Wis. Thru the Upper Peninsula of Michigan? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Grand Rapids Michigan Thanks Mark and everyone else. Back from a 1 day trip here locally, and now i find out, a possible trip monday to Janesville Wis. Escort a conveyor. Follow all the way, which is good, cause my only US driving experinces so far are following MR to GFM.:-0 Just might get that Chigaco street line form the window.:-) I';ll bring some blues CD;s to pass the time. Dave On 10/16/07, Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dave - I'm about 45 minutes from GR and Holland. The waterfront in Holland offers a lot of good photo ops. The city is built around a good sized lake that connects to Lake Michigan. There is a pretty distinctive lighthouse - 'Big Red' where the lakes join. The lighthouse is on the south side of the channel, but is best shot from the north, looking across the channel. There's a state park there with some low dunes, woods, beach stuff. Grand Haven, about 30 minutes to the north, has a good size lighthouse as well. Very nice boardwalk along the beach that runs along another channel from the renovated city center all the way through another good sized state park. There's a Coast Guard station there and the opportunity to catch the cutters in action. To the south of Holland - another half hour - is Saugutuck, an artsy lakefront community with one of the biggest and nicest beaches / lake shore parks in the state. Weather along the lake is always unpredictable. There is little color change here so far this year - very late season this year. The woods along the lake always change late - so I doubt that you'll see many peak color areas next week. I was shooting in the Allegan Forest yesterday - it pushes right up within 20 miles of Holland. Aside from the sumac and some weedy trees, it was as green as late July. Here's a shot of the Holland lighthouse - http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/020901.htm And Grand Haven - http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/lighthouses/0308l01.htm Oh yeah - sunsets along the lake can be nice as well. - MCC --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a chance i will be going to Grand Rapids, more specifically Holland, Michigan for an escort trip to Sault Ste Marie next week, and then points beyond back in Canada. Probably no time to visit, but, camera worthy area? :-) Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Mark Cassino Photography Kalamamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com Photo Books: www.lulu.com/cassino -- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just a snap shot
Sure Dave On 10/17/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you like some helpful suggestions? ;-) Tom C. From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net CC: Barbara Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED], Harry Bolton [EMAIL PROTECTED],Yvette Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Just a snap shot Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:11:53 -0400 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=awards-1-2538.jpg The Hunters and Dressage awards were this weekend. I had to miss both, due to sickness, bummer, but the farm placed all of the ribbons, trophies and other awards up in front of the office. The top row is the Hunters, the table the Dressage. The dressage riders who won their divisions also received a matted and framed photo taken during the year. Neat idea. K10 D and 16-45 and fill flash with 360 Nothing special artistic wize, but thats me.:-), just thought i would share.:-0 Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
It's nice to be able to fit in. :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 17/10/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: I stand corrected.. You're a shitbag!! (ah the camaraderie ;-))) -- Cheers, Cotty -- Find out how you can get spam free email. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/3 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
On 10/18/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: BTW were you using you frying pan? Of course! and, I lost my car keys in the sand... Had to go back and retrace the paths I created whilst wriggling on my belly until I found them... WHEW! Frying pan? Is it a monopod with a large flat foot? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Non enablement
Answered own question. I upgraded a while ago and i have Ver 1.3. I'll watch for any focus issues. Dave B On 10/18/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there something new since the last one that allowed for trailing curtain stuff.?? Thats tha last one i uploaded and my focusing seems k still Dave On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Non enablement I've gone a long time without buying as well. The last big purchase was the K10D. I need the DA* 50-135/2.8. Stat. I loved the thing. Its supposed to be available here just in time for my birthday. I will try to hold out for the 60-250, but I fear I might succumb to both. Did you upgrade your firmware to test the SDM AF? Cheers, Dave P.S. I've recently confirmed my suspicion that I have a back focus issue I'm glad that I hadn't upgraded the firmware. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Lucky Dog
http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg Subway shot or doggie shot? You decide... ;-) Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 17, 2007, at 6:36 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Large/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1607393214_58f37cb487_b.jpg *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/60, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ISO 800. Nice snap, good feel. A nice sense of dimensionality and motion. Godfrey Thanks. it's not perfect, but it works well enough for me. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Non enablement
It's not that the lates firmware improves focus, but that one of the firmware updates changed the button sequence that allows access to the cameras inbuilt service menu.. Through this menu you can calibrate the focus. My K10D AF, AF indicator, has always had a tendency to focus slightly behind whatever I was trying to focus on. Given that my eyesight isn't the best I tend to rely on the focus confirmation indicator in certain situations, it's kinda' frustraiting. Cheers, Dave On 10/18/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Answered own question. I upgraded a while ago and i have Ver 1.3. I'll watch for any focus issues. Dave B On 10/18/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there something new since the last one that allowed for trailing curtain stuff.?? Thats tha last one i uploaded and my focusing seems k still Dave On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: Non enablement I've gone a long time without buying as well. The last big purchase was the K10D. I need the DA* 50-135/2.8. Stat. I loved the thing. Its supposed to be available here just in time for my birthday. I will try to hold out for the 60-250, but I fear I might succumb to both. Did you upgrade your firmware to test the SDM AF? Cheers, Dave P.S. I've recently confirmed my suspicion that I have a back focus issue I'm glad that I hadn't upgraded the firmware. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
Glad you like it. -Adam Boris Liberman wrote: Adam, I does work for me. Boris Adam Maas wrote: Caught this on the way home with the new DS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/1607393214/ Large/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1607393214_58f37cb487_b.jpg *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/60, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ISO 800. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Built-in flash and syncro flashes
You could with a pre-A lens attached (which switches the popup to full-power manual instead of P-TTL) but getting small flash unit with an IR filter is probably a better option. -Adam Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: You can't use the K100D (or K10D) built in flash as a trigger flash for slaves, normally, as the P-TTL preflash will fire the slaves early. Best thing to do is to fit a small flash unit with an IR filter over the main tube. That will not pre-flash and will fire the slaves at the right time. Or use an RF wireless flash trigger. Godfrey On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:34 AM, Roman Melihhov wrote: I hoped to be able to use built-in flash of my K100D to release BIG Electra 80 slave flash units but o my surprise them always lighted late, from my experience I can say they start with main flash lights goes off and only reason they late can be that built-in flash releases before the second curtain, not at 1st curtain as I'd expect. Since there's nothing I can readjust in the menu perhaps only thing is to buy descent wired flash unit for my studio. This would be launched at first curtain opening, by the syncro cable. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Love it. Where was it taken? snip Wait! Adelaide and Toronto Streets, right? That's the Rosewater Supper Club they're driving by, IIRC... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
Good shot. I like the contrast of the red on the pavement. Like Paul, it would be nice if the car was a bit more in focus, but i realize panning is hard. Dave On 10/17/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caught this on the way home with the new DS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/1607393214/ Large/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1607393214_58f37cb487_b.jpg *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/60, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ISO 800. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
On 10/18/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good shot. I like the contrast of the red on the pavement. Like Paul, it would be nice if the car was a bit more in focus, but i realize panning is hard. Focus is s overated (see Lucky Dog for more on that)... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Rose is Rose [trying not to laugh]
On 10/17/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another shot with the A 24 f2.8 http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20roseisrose.html Equipment: Pentax *Ds/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. Wonderful shot. Terrific expression you caught there... :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just a snap shot
On 10/17/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=awards-1-2538.jpg The Hunters and Dressage awards were this weekend. I had to miss both, due to sickness, bummer, but the farm placed all of the ribbons, trophies and other awards up in front of the office. The top row is the Hunters, the table the Dressage. The dressage riders who won their divisions also received a matted and framed photo taken during the year. Neat idea. K10 D and 16-45 and fill flash with 360 Nothing special artistic wize, but thats me.:-), just thought i would share.:-0 I think it's a cool shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lucky Dog
I think you posted this before. frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg Subway shot or doggie shot? You decide... ;-) Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lucky Dog
frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg Subway shot or doggie shot? You decide... Babe shot. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
On 10/18/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a frying pan with a whole drilled in the center and a post screwed into it. (Discussed in length here a while ago). Ahh... Thanks I missed that one. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
On 10/17/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Caught this on the way home with the new DS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mawz/1607393214/ Large/direct link: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/1607393214_58f37cb487_b.jpg *istDS, DA 18-55, 1/60, [EMAIL PROTECTED], ISO 800. Zing! Love it. Where was it taken? I like the fact you kept it colour - wouldn't want to lose the gorgeous red of that car! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good shot. I like the contrast of the red on the pavement. Like Paul, it would be nice if the car was a bit more in focus, but i realize panning is hard. Focus is s overated (see Lucky Dog for more on that)... I agree. The blur works for this shot. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
It's a frying pan with a whole drilled in the center and a post screwed into it. (Discussed in length here a while ago). David Savage wrote: On 10/18/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: BTW were you using you frying pan? Of course! and, I lost my car keys in the sand... Had to go back and retrace the paths I created whilst wriggling on my belly until I found them... WHEW! Frying pan? Is it a monopod with a large flat foot? Cheers, Dave -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Waiting for Dinner
(Warning, warning! Achtung, achtung! Cats in photo. Do not open if you have an aversion to felines!) http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg I was thinking about this one for the November PUG (opposites), but decided to submit another one instead, because the fact that Patches (white) and Cinza (dark grey) are opposites is more about their personalities than their looks. Funny, I guess it's the angle/perspective, but Cinza is a tiny cat (for an adult) and Patches is quite large, but that doesn't come across in this photo. Comments welcome! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Waiting for Dinner
Kittens maybe, but cats? That's harsh. frank theriault wrote: (Warning, warning! Achtung, achtung! Cats in photo. Do not open if you have an aversion to felines!) http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg I was thinking about this one for the November PUG (opposites), but decided to submit another one instead, because the fact that Patches (white) and Cinza (dark grey) are opposites is more about their personalities than their looks. Funny, I guess it's the angle/perspective, but Cinza is a tiny cat (for an adult) and Patches is quite large, but that doesn't come across in this photo. Comments welcome! cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lucky Dog
On 10/18/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you posted this before. Really? I didn't think I did, but if so, it was a colour version, uncropped. I only did some PS work on the out of the camera image for the first time this morning, so what I may have shown before was very large, colour, uncropped and totally unmanipulated (mind you, all I did was adjust levels and contrast and sharpen some select portions). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lucky Dog
On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you posted this before. Really? I didn't think I did, but if so, it was a colour version, uncropped. I only did some PS work on the out of the camera image for the first time this morning, so what I may have shown before was very large, colour, uncropped and totally unmanipulated (mind you, all I did was convert to BW, adjust levels and contrast and sharpen some select portions). I don't think I used this title before, either, so the title's new, too. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
I was afraid to ask. I saw Peter's explanation but I'm not sure I'm any the wiser (I missed the earlier discussion too). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Frying pan? Is it a monopod with a large flat foot? Cheers, Dave -- Free pop3 email with a spam filter. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lucky Dog
Either, or both. I like the expressions on the girls' faces - not sure what the dog's expression is. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg Subway shot or doggie shot? You decide... -- Get a free email address with REAL anti-spam protection. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Waiting for Dinner
On 10/18/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kittens maybe, but cats? That's harsh. Ooops! http://tinyurl.com/2cqof2 cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Waiting for Dinner
On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Warning, warning! Achtung, achtung! Cats in photo. Do not open if you have an aversion to felines!) http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg I was thinking about this one for the November PUG (opposites), but decided to submit another one instead, because the fact that Patches (white) and Cinza (dark grey) are opposites is more about their personalities than their looks. Funny, I guess it's the angle/perspective, but Cinza is a tiny cat (for an adult) and Patches is quite large, but that doesn't come across in this photo. Comments welcome! Let's try that again, shall we? http://tinyurl.com/2cqof2 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdULMA_AQI/A08/s7UnX23epRw/s1600-h/oct_18+003.jpg red face Sorry about that... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Waiting for Dinner
You're right. It doesn't come across in the photo... Unusual cat :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (Warning, warning! Achtung, achtung! Cats in photo. Do not open if you have an aversion to felines!) http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg I was thinking about this one for the November PUG (opposites), but decided to submit another one instead, because the fact that Patches (white) and Cinza (dark grey) are opposites is more about their personalities than their looks. Funny, I guess it's the angle/perspective, but Cinza is a tiny cat (for an adult) and Patches is quite large, but that doesn't come across in this photo. -- Free pop3 email with a spam filter. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
It's a short monopod with a frying pan foot, but homemade, (I think). Hell, I'm not sure of anything anymore. Brian Walters wrote: I was afraid to ask. I saw Peter's explanation but I'm not sure I'm any the wiser (I missed the earlier discussion too). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Frying pan? Is it a monopod with a large flat foot? Cheers, Dave -- Free pop3 email with a spam filter. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Waiting for Dinner
Now those are cats. frank theriault wrote: On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Warning, warning! Achtung, achtung! Cats in photo. Do not open if you have an aversion to felines!) http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/oct_18+002.jpg I was thinking about this one for the November PUG (opposites), but decided to submit another one instead, because the fact that Patches (white) and Cinza (dark grey) are opposites is more about their personalities than their looks. Funny, I guess it's the angle/perspective, but Cinza is a tiny cat (for an adult) and Patches is quite large, but that doesn't come across in this photo. Comments welcome! Let's try that again, shall we? http://tinyurl.com/2cqof2 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdULMA_AQI/A08/s7UnX23epRw/s1600-h/oct_18+003.jpg red face Sorry about that... cheers, frank -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
Given Cotty's tourettes like outbursts I'm not surprised :-) I just checked my archives, His ground pod is an aluminium fry pan with a threaded stud (I assume) a ball head mounted. I gather Christian uses it when he's crawling on his belly stalking shooting his targets. Cheers, Dave On 10/18/07, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was afraid to ask. I saw Peter's explanation but I'm not sure I'm any the wiser (I missed the earlier discussion too). Cheers Brian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Waiting for Dinner
On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's try that again, shall we? http://tinyurl.com/2cqof2 Awww... Evil little bastards. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Porsche in Motion
frank theriault wrote: On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Love it. Where was it taken? snip Wait! Adelaide and Toronto Streets, right? That's the Rosewater Supper Club they're driving by, IIRC... cheers, frank Bingo! -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
Bill, You are an American, a North American. You just don't reside in the USA part of N America. You get all the benefits without any of the responsibility. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On 10/17/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just watched a news clip about President Bush's meeting with the Dali Lama. I would just like to congratulate the President, and the people of the USA. Were I an American, I would be a very proud American today. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo shop assistance Oval pictures
I, at one time used to remember how to do this, but, I am trying to use the elliptical tool to surround three horses to make an oval head shot of each, then drag them into a different back ground and make the ovals have some drop shadow type shading to them. Sort of like an old photo with the oval frame, but i cannot seem to figure it out. I can get the oval alright, inverse and fill the unwanted portion with white, but when i move the selected oval, the whole thing comes with it. I remember something in help, but i cannot even remember what this effect is called to look it up. Any quick tips please. Its for someone who wants to make a blanket for their coach. I have a few days to work on this. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lucky Dog
Good one. Great interaction. You captured a special moment. I might prefer a bit more of the woman at frame right, but it's an interesting composition as shown. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tinyurl.com/39m5gq http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RxdMBMA_ANI/A0k/wlX3YGZ947o/s1600-h/ oct_18+002.jpg Subway shot or doggie shot? You decide... ;-) Comments welcome! thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
LOL Cheers, Dave On 10/18/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, You are an American, a North American. You just don't reside in the USA part of N America. You get all the benefits without any of the responsibility. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On 10/17/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just watched a news clip about President Bush's meeting with the Dali Lama. I would just like to congratulate the President, and the people of the USA. Were I an American, I would be a very proud American today. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
David Savage wrote: Most critics (be they movie,. book, music, art etc...) don't seem to be popular unless they say nice things Dave, I *highly* recommend the book Your Movie Sucks by Roger Ebert :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
Cotty wrote: On 17/10/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: Ah, the camaraderie that happens on this list just warms the cockles.. What camaraderie? He's a shitbag! Next time I charge you rent, Steve (if that's even your real name!). And I'll have your mobile home ticketed. Oh, and it takes one to know one! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL You might not be laughing were you Canadian... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
Cotty wrote: On 17/10/07, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed: I stand corrected.. You're a shitbag!! (ah the camaraderie ;-))) Well... amongst you shitbags, anyway. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Waiting for Dinner
Tricky exposure deftly handled, Frank. Appear to be in charge and well cared for. ;) Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kittens maybe, but cats? That's harsh. Ooops! http://tinyurl.com/2cqof2 cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 10/18/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, You are an American, a North American. You just don't reside in the USA part of N America. You get all the benefits without any of the responsibility. ;-) Regards, Bob S. I see the smiley, Bob, but I still can't help bristle a bit. All the benefits? None of the responsibility? Biting my tongue, biting my tongue... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo shop assistance Oval pictures
I'm not sure if this is what your after. Once you've made the selection hold down control alt, then click drag the selection. Cheers, Dave On 10/18/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, at one time used to remember how to do this, but, I am trying to use the elliptical tool to surround three horses to make an oval head shot of each, then drag them into a different back ground and make the ovals have some drop shadow type shading to them. Sort of like an old photo with the oval frame, but i cannot seem to figure it out. I can get the oval alright, inverse and fill the unwanted portion with white, but when i move the selected oval, the whole thing comes with it. I remember something in help, but i cannot even remember what this effect is called to look it up. Any quick tips please. Its for someone who wants to make a blanket for their coach. I have a few days to work on this. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
David Savage wrote: Given Cotty's tourettes like outbursts I'm not surprised :-) I just checked my archives, His ground pod is an aluminium fry pan with a threaded stud (I assume) a ball head mounted. I gather Christian uses it when he's crawling on his belly stalking shooting his targets. There ya go. I'll take a picture of the full rig and post it tonight. Basically it's a frying pan with a short carriage bolt in the center to hold the ball head with Wimberley sidekick. The viewfinder height is perfect for lying prone and wriggling across any soft, even surface like a beach. The official product as sold by Greg downing of Naturescapes.net is called the Skimmer. When I was shooting with him and a bunch of other guys in Cape May, NJ, they all laughed at my frying pan... until Greg told him his prototype was, in fact, a frying pan... And my frying pan cost a total of US$30 (hey only the best, heavy Calphalon, non-stick pan for my skimmer!) whereas his skimmer retails for ~US$150. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
WTB DA 50-200
I can stop buying lenses any time I want. Really. Contact me off list if you have a 50-200 you're looking to sell, or an appropriate 12-step program. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - sand fleas?
Brian Walters wrote: Hi Christian Great pose - well worth the crawling about on the sand. I like the others too, particularly No.3 but it just lacks the detail in the highlights that No. 4 has (I hate photographing white birds. :-) Thanks, Brian. glad you liked the others too. I was really happy with the exposures. Black and white birds are not easy sometimes... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net http://photography2.skofteland.net:8080/displayimage.php?pos=-98 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
I have enough Canadian heritage to appreciate why Northern North Americans, ;-), don't like that proposition, but I'm far enough removed from Canadian/US politics that I find it funny :-D Cheers, Dave On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL You might not be laughing were you Canadian... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd
From: Cotty Er, would this be a good time to ask what a gourd is? A hollow, dried shell of a fruit in the Cucurbitaceae family of plants of the genus Lagenaria. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gourd Cucurbitaceae includes crops like cucumbers, squashes (including pumpkins), luffas, melons and watermelons. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Lucky Dog
On 10/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good one. Great interaction. You captured a special moment. I might prefer a bit more of the woman at frame right, but it's an interesting composition as shown. Thanks, Paul. I think I took three frames, and that one was the only acceptable one of the bunch. The lady on the right is cut off from the full-frame, so I have no croping options that would put more of her in the picture. Right after I took that one, the interaction stopped as the young lady with the dog got off the train. Thanks for the comment! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
Adam Maas wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? We were speaking of Rebel users. I'll bet nine out of ten use autofocus for everything. So we aren't speaking of people with lenses faster than f2.8 then, are we. William Robb Yeah, we are. Canon 50 f1.8's are the cheapest lens in the system, they run less than $80 USD new, and are a lens that many recommend to Canon owners as a must-have (Sharp, fastish, cheap, a good combo). And they're known to throw fits on Rebels with in-spec but marginal AF calibration. -Adam I know a lot of digiRebel users... none of them would EVER consider the 50/1.8. It doesn't zoom is the most often heard reason. sheesh. It is a noisy flimsy little lens, but wow, is it ever value for money. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Seattle?
I'm going to be in Seattle for a conference in a couple of weeks, and will have some free time the afternoons of Wed Oct 31 and Sat Nov 3. It would be great to meet any Pentaxians in the neighborhood. Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
Christian wrote: Adam Maas wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ? We were speaking of Rebel users. I'll bet nine out of ten use autofocus for everything. So we aren't speaking of people with lenses faster than f2.8 then, are we. William Robb Yeah, we are. Canon 50 f1.8's are the cheapest lens in the system, they run less than $80 USD new, and are a lens that many recommend to Canon owners as a must-have (Sharp, fastish, cheap, a good combo). And they're known to throw fits on Rebels with in-spec but marginal AF calibration. -Adam I know a lot of digiRebel users... none of them would EVER consider the 50/1.8. It doesn't zoom is the most often heard reason. sheesh. It is a noisy flimsy little lens, but wow, is it ever value for money. I think every digiRebel user I know has one. But both the camera groups I'm part of tend to recommend those things as the first lens to buy after the kit lens. Usually by the 'try mine' method. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd
From: Cotty The only gourd I have heard of before was in Judea, AD 33, about tea time: [As Brian runs out of the city, one of his shoes (or is it a sandal?) falls off. His followers stop, and Follower 5 picks it up.] Folowr3 He has given us a sign! Folowr5 He has given us... a shoe! Folowr3 The shoe is the sign. Let us follow his example. Spike What? Folowr3 Let us, like him, hold up one shoe and let the other be upon our foot for this is His sign, and all who follow Him shall do likewise. Folowr2 Yes. Folowr5 No no no. Folowr2 No. Folowr5 The shoe is a sign that we must gather shoes together in a bundle. Folowr4 Cast off the shoes. Follow the gourd. Spike What? Folowr5 No. Let us gather shoes together. Let me... Folowr4 Get off! Folowr2 No, no. It is a sign that like him, we must think not of things of the body, but of the face, and head. Folowr5 Give me your shoe. Folowr2 Get off! Folowr4 Follow the gourd. The holy gourd of Jerusalem. When the sun goes back and the first quail calls Follow the drinking gourd The old man is a-waitin' for to carry you to freedom Follow the drinking gourd Follow the drinking gourd, follow the drinking gourd For the old man is a-waitin' to carry you to freedom Follow the drinking gourd The river bed makes a mighty fine road, Dead trees to show you the way And it's left foot, peg foot, traveling on Follow the drinking gourd The river ends between two hills Follow the drinking gourd There's another river on the other side Follow the drinking gourd I thought I heard the angels say Follow the drinking gourd The stars in the heavens gonna show you the way Follow the drinking gourd -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
Commenting on photos is something I will do. My comments fall into some general classes. 1. Thanks for sharing the snapshot...a social way of acknowledging the sharing of experiences between friends on the list. 2. Silence, No Comment...There is nothing special or moving or of interest about the photo to me. I won't waste the bandwidth. 3. Silence, No Comment...There are some pretty good photographers here producing some damned fine images. After 3 or 4 others say what and how that is a fine image, I just don't have anything to add. You don't need 250 of us to say 'Atta Boy'. 4. Comments...WOW, 'I hate you', or 'I don't like that' happen when I see something I like/dislike and few others have said anything. These are my subjective opinions. I try to get the right side of my brain to help articulate what the left side is feeling, sometimes successfully. I try to give a specific reason for that feeling. I hope that this kind of critique is more meaningful to the photographer. And overall, the comments should be matched to the photographer. Beginners should get beginner's help and balding old pros should be subject to harsher review. Regards, Bob S. On 10/18/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this thread has been exciting ... unpleasantly so. On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Tom C wrote: So if I don't care for the subject matter of the photo it's right for me to state I think it's a poor image, regardless of any other qualities it may possess? Tom, If the subject matter of a photo is not to your liking, the most you should say is just that. Otherwise, you're acting like a pompous buffoon. Unless there is something about the photo, UNRELATED to the subject matter and whether you like it or not, that is worthy of some positive or constructive remark. And then you should make that remark and shut up. A poor image is something else entirely, not related one whit to whether you like the subject matter. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd
Heck I wasn't even sure if the second was hyphenated or not. John Sessoms wrote: Grammar. There should be a comma separating soup and femi- ;-P From: P. J. Alling soup femi- or safety? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know why this message appeared again. Anyway, the discussion is over. I'm a nazi:-). Paul -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo shop assistance Oval pictures
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Photo shop assistance Oval pictures I, at one time used to remember how to do this, but, I am trying to use the elliptical tool to surround three horses to make an oval head shot of each, then drag them into a different back ground and make the ovals have some drop shadow type shading to them. Sort of like an old photo with the oval frame, but i cannot seem to figure it out. I can get the oval alright, inverse and fill the unwanted portion with white, but when i move the selected oval, the whole thing comes with it. I remember something in help, but i cannot even remember what this effect is called to look it up. Any quick tips please. Its for someone who wants to make a blanket for their coach. I have a few days to work on this. Copy and past, then use the layer styles to do your drop shadow. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd
Grammar. There should be a comma separating soup and femi- ;-P From: P. J. Alling soup femi- or safety? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know why this message appeared again. Anyway, the discussion is over. I'm a nazi:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics On 10/18/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, You are an American, a North American. You just don't reside in the USA part of N America. You get all the benefits without any of the responsibility. ;-) Regards, Bob S. I see the smiley, Bob, but I still can't help bristle a bit. All the benefits? None of the responsibility? Biting my tongue, biting my tongue... They look at war as a responsibility, we see it as the last resort of the incompetent. We may look like them, but we are not them. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd
I agree with your view Frank. Trying to constrain it to some pretentious mumbo jumbo is just nonsense to me. Whatever works for you I say. On 10/16/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/16/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, With all due respect, from your words you simply don't 'get' street photography. snip Oh dear! Yet another thread on what is street photography. So, not that anyone cares, but here's my take: I remember Shel (not to pick on Shel, who I love to death, irascible tho' he could be) once chiding me, asking how many frames did you take of that subject?, then telling me that I should chat and otherwise interact with my street subjects, get to know them a bit, make them feel comfortable with me while I shoot. You know what? That worked for Shel. It's worked for many photographers. Sometimes it works for me. Other times I prefer to be a stealthy fly on the wall. There's no right or wrong for street photography. HCB wanted to be invisible to his subjects. He rarely shot more than two frames of one event (that according to his long-time developer) before moving on. That's in direct opposition to someone like Gary Winogrand, who shot rolls and rolls of the same subject. There are no rules. In fact, I think there's no such thing as street photography. One simply takes photographs. Either they work or they don't. Often they work for some (like this one of Paul's that works for me) but not for others. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
From: Adam Maas Cory Papenfuss wrote: Wow. Impressive thread. Let me know if I missed any controversies: - WR vs. JCO AND WR+JCO vs PDML. - Sensor sizes defying physical laws - Whether Pentax will ever release a FF-DSLR - Canikon vs. Pentax - Emacs vs. VI - Firefox vs. Internet Exploiter - Policitcal conservatism vs. liberalism. - Mac vs. PC. - A fish pun thread What'd I miss? -Cory Word vs Wordperfect. Ol' Miss vs. 'Bama ... Roll Tide! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Striving for adequate; was Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
Good points. You also don't show those photos where you've merely strived for and achieved adequate, those where you were merely trying to record an image, expecting critiques, or positive feedback. I can appreciate adequate. When we were buying our house the real estate photos did not show mountains around the house at all. Nor did it show off any of the architectural styling of the house. It showed the house, looking straight at the garage, and behind it appeared to be a dry barren flat field. The picture was entirely misleading. :-) Tom C. From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Striving for adequate; was Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:26:03 +0100 Tom C wrote: To your last point, I agree, but ask, who is striving for adequate? Maybe some are. Adequate means the vacation shot gets included in the family album. If that's what I'm shooting for, fine, but I'm generally trying to achieve something beyond that. I have three categories of photography. 1. Photos I take when I'm dismantling something and need to know how it goes back together. As long as the series of pictures show what I need to know, adequate is just fine. 2. Selling on eBay. Over the last couple of years I've seen three images appear, where I have been surprised to see not only something like a picture I took for an item, but it sitting on my table and on my carpet! I got all three images removed but what annoys me most, is that if someone had asked if I would mind if they used my image, and said that it wasn't their picture (but mine) and what they had was very similar, I would have been happy for them to use it. To digress slightly, I said before in another thread on people taking pictures and claiming (or at least implying the work was their own) one of these people admitted he didn't have a camera and it was just as easy to take and use one from the web somewhere! For the last few months I have therefore purposely taken non-perfect pictures for this use; clear enough to see what is for sale but not good enough to steal for someone else to use. I presume if you intend to nick one for your own use, you take a good one, as I've not had the problem since. 3. Photographs for pleasure. Here I don't strive for adequate. I do occasionally do silly things like look at the back of an LX to see how a picture came out! I am slowly over time using digital more. There are however, times where I do strive for adequate. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo shop assistance Oval pictures
Did you say you bought FotoFusion? It's ideal for this. Wendy On 10/18/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, at one time used to remember how to do this, but, I am trying to use the elliptical tool to surround three horses to make an oval head shot of each, then drag them into a different back ground and make the ovals have some drop shadow type shading to them. Sort of like an old photo with the oval frame, but i cannot seem to figure it out. I can get the oval alright, inverse and fill the unwanted portion with white, but when i move the selected oval, the whole thing comes with it. I remember something in help, but i cannot even remember what this effect is called to look it up. Any quick tips please. Its for someone who wants to make a blanket for their coach. I have a few days to work on this. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing
On 10/18/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And overall, the comments should be matched to the photographer. Beginners should get beginner's help and balding old pros should be subject to harsher review. What about balding pretenders like me? (Technically I'm at the thinning stage) :-D Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
- Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics I have enough Canadian heritage to appreciate why Northern North Americans, ;-), don't like that proposition, but I'm far enough removed from Canadian/US politics that I find it funny :-D And to think that all I wanted to do was to recognize some selfless diplomacy. Back to our usual programming. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
On 10/18/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Adam Maas Cory Papenfuss wrote: Wow. Impressive thread. Let me know if I missed any controversies: - WR vs. JCO AND WR+JCO vs PDML. - Sensor sizes defying physical laws - Whether Pentax will ever release a FF-DSLR - Canikon vs. Pentax - Emacs vs. VI - Firefox vs. Internet Exploiter - Policitcal conservatism vs. liberalism. - Mac vs. PC. - A fish pun thread What'd I miss? -Cory Word vs Wordperfect. Ol' Miss vs. 'Bama ... Roll Tide! Let's make it really nasty: Football v''s Throwball (or whatever it is our North Americans friends call that incomprehensible game they play in armour) vbg Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have enough Canadian heritage to appreciate why Northern North Americans, ;-), don't like that proposition, but I'm far enough removed from Canadian/US politics that I find it funny :-D It's not a political issue as much as a cultural one. I know Bob was joking, and truly meant no harm, and in so many ways it's great being next to the only superpower in the world. I think many of us (which is really my way of sayng I) are tired of is being thought of or portrayed as second-class citizens or some sort of poor cousin to the US. Even worse is the thought that somehow we're just like Americans, but we don't do all (or any) of the dirty work they do to keep the world safe for democracy. Like Bob said, all the benefits and none of the responsibility. That pretty much sums up the message that we hear time and time again. Bob may have been joking, but too many ~aren't~ when comments like that are made. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
Bill, You've been such a stickler about not using the term American to describe USA citizens and USA actions that I couldn't help but call you on it when I see you praising the 'American' president. Kind of like poking the sleeping dragon with a stick as you walk by... And even Frank woke up! ;-) You did see the smiley didn't you? You guys get kind of cranky this time of year. I always assumed it was because of the seasonal changes approaching on the frozen tundra up by you. We've still got 70 degree weather down here Regards, Bob S. On 10/18/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics On 10/18/07, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, You are an American, a North American. You just don't reside in the USA part of N America. You get all the benefits without any of the responsibility. ;-) Regards, Bob S. I see the smiley, Bob, but I still can't help bristle a bit. All the benefits? None of the responsibility? Biting my tongue, biting my tongue... They look at war as a responsibility, we see it as the last resort of the incompetent. We may look like them, but we are not them. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
50/1.4 (was Next move from Pentax: ..)
On 10/18/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canon 50 f1.8's are the cheapest lens in the system, they run less than $80 USD new, and are a lens that many recommend to Canon owners as a must-have (Sharp, fastish, cheap, a good combo). And they're known to throw fits on Rebels with in-spec but marginal AF calibration. -Adam I know a lot of digiRebel users... none of them would EVER consider the 50/1.8. It doesn't zoom is the most often heard reason. sheesh. It is a noisy flimsy little lens, but wow, is it ever value for money. I think every digiRebel user I know has one. But both the camera groups I'm part of tend to recommend those things as the first lens to buy after the kit lens. Usually by the 'try mine' method. Bringing it back on topic, anyone care to comment on using a Pentax 50/1.4 on K10D? -- Sandy Harris, Nanjing, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 10/18/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to think that all I wanted to do was to recognize some selfless diplomacy. Back to our usual programming. Yes. It was nice to see GW meet with the DL. It was nice to see someone piss off China, one of the most brutal regimes in the world when it comes to human and animal rights issues. It was nice to see a symbolic gesture WRT freeing Tibet and protesting China's illegal occupation of same. I think America should be proud of their President today. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have enough Canadian heritage to appreciate why Northern North Americans, ;-), don't like that proposition, but I'm far enough removed from Canadian/US politics that I find it funny :-D It's not a political issue as much as a cultural one. Ahh... but the politics of differing cultures is causes a lot of problems. I know Bob was joking, and truly meant no harm, and in so many ways it's great being next to the only superpower in the world. Being next to the worlds only superpower is why I was born in Oz not in Canada. Crikey, thinks could have been so differenteh? ;-) I think many of us (which is really my way of sayng I) are tired of is being thought of or portrayed as second-class citizens or some sort of poor cousin to the US. I've never got that feeling from people in this corner of the world Even worse is the thought that somehow we're just like Americans, but we don't do all (or any) of the dirty work they do to keep the world safe for democracy. Like Bob said, all the benefits and none of the responsibility. That pretty much sums up the message that we hear time and time again. I know better. Bob may have been joking, but too many ~aren't~ when comments like that are made. Bob said that to stir up trouble knowing that some would rise the the bait. :-) Tsk, tsk, tsk, naughty Bob!!! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 18/10/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: They look at war as a responsibility, we see it as the last resort of the incompetent. We may look like them, but we are not them. hey you should worry. We spawned them and now we aspire to be them. - ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50/1.4
On Oct 18, 2007, at 8:25 AM, Sandy Harris wrote: Bringing it back on topic, anyone care to comment on using a Pentax 50/1.4 on K10D? It's an excellent lens and works very well with the K10D. All of them, really, but I'd stick with the A, F and FA series models for the best experience and feature support. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?
On Oct 18, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Christian wrote: I know a lot of digiRebel users... none of them would EVER consider the 50/1.8. It doesn't zoom is the most often heard reason. sheesh. Yup. It is a noisy flimsy little lens, but wow, is it ever value for money. Bokeh is also very crappy, just like the rest of the lens. I tried one and tossed it back, bought the EF 50/1.4 instead. That's a much much better performer and is nicely built. Not as good as the Pentax 50/1.4, however, and a bit more expensive. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
Frank, I agree with you. I was deliberately provoking you with the All the benefits and none of the responsibilities line. I think more accurate would be, You get some benefits, but you have no say in what's happening. I bite my tongue because I feel like You get some benefits, but you have no liability. And some folks are very vocal critics (self rightous) telling us to fix our problems. Easier said than done... Regards, Bob S. On 10/18/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have enough Canadian heritage to appreciate why Northern North Americans, ;-), don't like that proposition, but I'm far enough removed from Canadian/US politics that I find it funny :-D It's not a political issue as much as a cultural one. I know Bob was joking, and truly meant no harm, and in so many ways it's great being next to the only superpower in the world. I think many of us (which is really my way of sayng I) are tired of is being thought of or portrayed as second-class citizens or some sort of poor cousin to the US. Even worse is the thought that somehow we're just like Americans, but we don't do all (or any) of the dirty work they do to keep the world safe for democracy. Like Bob said, all the benefits and none of the responsibility. That pretty much sums up the message that we hear time and time again. Bob may have been joking, but too many ~aren't~ when comments like that are made. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 10/18/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: They look at war as a responsibility, we see it as the last resort of the incompetent. We may look like them, but we are not them. hey you should worry. We spawned them and now we aspire to be them. - ;-) ...and we've got our nose buried up them. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Glorious Gourd
Great capture of a an interesting moment. I love the expression on the middle gal. On 10/14/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another shot with the K 135/2.5 at the farmer's market this afternoon. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6529425size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 50/1.4 (was Next move from Pentax: ..)
On 10/18/07, Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bringing it back on topic, anyone care to comment on using a Pentax 50/1.4 on K10D? It works very well. Warning: cat photo http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_019.htm /Warning: cat photo http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_021.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_026.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_028.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_029.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0865.htm http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/GESO/GESO_013/pages/_IGP0873.htm I always have it in my camera bag Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 18/10/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: They look at war as a responsibility, we see it as the last resort of the incompetent. We may look like them, but we are not them. Please don't ascribe the cave man grunting of the current administration's stupidity to all citizens of the United States. The sad thing is that GWB probably attended the event purely to rattle the sabres again, this time with the Chinese government. His actions since the election deceit of 2000 demonstrate clearly that he has no real interest in humanitarian concerns. His approval rating with the American public is currently at a stunning 11%, according to the KTVU/Fox news broadcast this morning. Presidents should simply commit hara-kiri when their approval rating falls below 20% and make way for the next joker. GWB could be a leader and show the way ... History would them remember him well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics
On 10/18/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Tsk, tsk, tsk, naughty Bob!!! snip Yeah, it's the quiet ones ya gotta watch, eh? Way to go Bob! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
