RE: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
Didn't you see Hitchcock's Strangers On A Train? -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of ann sanfedele > Sent: 30 October 2007 01:15 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2 > > Bob W wrote: > > >Beautiful photo. It makes me think of books by Patricia Highsmith. > > > >-- > > Bob > > > > > > > glad you liked... > Re P H - Hmmm - I never read any books by her but I saw "The > talented > Mr Ripley" and loved it. > there may be others that turned into TV movies I might have seen. > > ann > >> > >>http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/3590016/1/204029646/Large > >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Theme PESO: Your Creepiest Photo
Subject says it all. This is what I was asking about earlier. Since Halloween is on wednesday, I thought it'd be fun for people to post the creepiest photo they have on hand. If you think you can take a creepier one, go for it, but you don't have much time! Your photo doesn't have to have anything to do with Halloween, just the general idea of "creepy." http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/creepy Have fun! John Celio P.S.: to start things off, here's my PESO from a couple weeks ago, Mr. Owl's Leftovers: http://www.neovenator.com/2007/10/mr_11.html Comments not necessary, as it's already been commented upon recently. It's just an idea-starter. -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Danglin' Bee
> No comment on background colours, just the photo, love it.:-) Thanks! And thanks to everyone else who commented! I'd reply to all the posts, but I've company at my house this week, and thus not a lot of computer time. :( Thanks again, John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Larger buffer better view finder, same sensor. The Jpeg processing is more pleasing to those who're moving up from a P&S, but I doubt that you'd shoot Jpeg and who except a beginner would shoot Jpeg without setting up the camera to their liking. You disagree? Still obviously you want an argument so I guess you do. By the way have you even seen a K110D or it's direct ancestor the DL, let alone bought one? I thought not. Paul Stenquist wrote: > Strange. Why is a Ds a better camera overall? Enlighten us. > Paul > On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > >> K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a >> used Ds >> or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. >> >> Adam Maas wrote: >> >>> I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >>> K10D's >>> out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. >>> >>> K110D's on the other hand... >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> Tom C wrote: >>> >>> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which also makes medical equipment rose 15 percent". I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). Tom C. > From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > > Tom C wrote: > > >> Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: >> >> Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing >> its own >> estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. >> >> Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the >> six months >> ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion >> yen. >> >> > Sales > > >> at the company, which also makes medical >> equipment rose 15 percent. >> >> "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we >> had >> difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North >> America, Jiro >> Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said >> by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 >> million >> >> > yen, > > >> he said. >> >> The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion >> yen. >> Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >> >> > administrative > > >> expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from >> 1.56 billion yen. >> >> -- >> >> Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that >> great >> >> > after > > >> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. >> >> Tom C. >> >> >> >> >> > That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've > seen here > in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J > lenses, and > a few DS's and DL's. > > If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a > lot more > things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess > stock. > > It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they > were > sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which > impacted their > net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the > operating > profit increase. > > -Adam > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and > follow the directions. > > >>> >>> >> -- >> The difference between individual intelligence and group >> intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the >> Harvard University football team. >> >> -- P. J. O'Roark >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> > > > -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow th
Re: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/2007 8:29:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>In a message dated 10/29/2007 4:18:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>Beautiful photo. It makes me think of books by Patricia Highsmith. >> >>-- >>Bob >> >>== >>Very nice photo. But Georgette Heyer. Heh. >> >>Marnie aka Doe :-) >> >> >> >> >+++ > >Glad you like Marnie, but who is Georgette Heyer? > >ann > > > >I got what Bob was saying about Patricia Highsmith, just disputing which >female author. > >http://tinyurl.com/2og2m7 > >HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) > >- > > ah I see -- well from the covers of the books on the link you sent, I lean toward Bob oh dear now I'm starting to think of a more apporpriate author (to my mind) LOL ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA Limited lenses on film
Great many thanks. Well, too bad the DA21 is not full frame ;-). Boris Derby Chang wrote: > I already knew the DA40 was pretty good as a full frame lens. The DA70 > isn't bad either - tiny bit of vignetting up to f2.8. > > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/07_10/07_10_DA/ > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Mid-autumn in mid-America
Thanks Dave. I have several like #5 with the Coots running across the water. I liked this one because of the partial symmetry, almost as though the first two were in synch with one another. But actually my favorite of the whole bunch is the first mushroom shot - #6. stan On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:35 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > I like #'s 5, 7 and 9. > > Dave > > On 10/28/07, Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> A few shots selected from a couple of different recent outings. >> >> 1. I am using Zenfolio, first brought to my attention by Amita. >> >> 2. The shots were mostly with the DA*50-135. Several used the AF/1.7 >> extender on that lens. The moon shot was with the FA* 300/4.0 with >> A-2xS Pentax extender and a Tamron 2x extender. The best of a series >> - all had the highlights totally blown out. I'll try again next >> month... >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p122692597 >> >> stan >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> > > > -- > Equine Photography > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > Ontario Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Listen you guys... you should really appreciate me. :-) At least I bring you current information. There's a guy on the yahoo istD list that is relating news from 6 months ago like he just found out about it. :-) Tom C. >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:05:52 -0700 > > >From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >David Savage wrote: > > > It's the PDML, not the PPEDML. > > > > > > Anything Pentax related is valid fodder for discussion. > > > > > > >Allow me to rephrase. Anything is valid fodder for > >discussion. > > > >I couldn't resist. Sue me. > > > >-- > >Scott Loveless > >http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > > > >-- > >Please be advised, this communicatiion may be monitored for compliance, >customer service, and training. Please speak the name and address of your >employer at the tone. ;-) When you are finished speaking you may listen to >your recording, send it, delete it, or re-record it. > >Tom C. > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > >Shutter speed. > > > >G > > > >On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > > > > > >>Why are all those people standing there like they're frozen in time > >>and > >>space? ;-) > >> > >> > >Tom - I told you, they are pod people :) > >ann > Good one Ann. I like both versions of Invasions of the Body Snatchers I've seen. Original probably more but the one with Leonard Nimoy was pretty creapy too! :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
In a message dated 10/29/2007 8:29:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/2007 4:18:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Beautiful photo. It makes me think of books by Patricia Highsmith. > >-- >Bob > >== >Very nice photo. But Georgette Heyer. Heh. > >Marnie aka Doe :-) > > +++ Glad you like Marnie, but who is Georgette Heyer? ann I got what Bob was saying about Patricia Highsmith, just disputing which female author. http://tinyurl.com/2og2m7 HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
On 10/30/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Savage wrote: > > Anything Pentax related is valid fodder for discussion. > > > > Allow me to rephrase. Anything is valid fodder for discussion. I fully expected a reply like this. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >Shutter speed. > >G > >On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > >>Why are all those people standing there like they're frozen in time >>and >>space? ;-) >> >> Tom - I told you, they are pod people :) ann > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/2007 4:18:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Beautiful photo. It makes me think of books by Patricia Highsmith. > >-- >Bob > >== >Very nice photo. But Georgette Heyer. Heh. > >Marnie aka Doe :-) > > +++ Glad you like Marnie, but who is Georgette Heyer? ann >- >Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > >** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Or maybe potential customers were reading your posts saying Pentax was going down the drain and avoided buying their products. Tom C wrote: > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. Sales > at the company, which also makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent. > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million yen, > he said. > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and administrative > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > 1.56 billion yen. > > -- > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great after > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > Tom C. > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
>From: Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >David Savage wrote: > > It's the PDML, not the PPEDML. > > > > Anything Pentax related is valid fodder for discussion. > > > >Allow me to rephrase. Anything is valid fodder for >discussion. > >I couldn't resist. Sue me. > >-- >Scott Loveless >http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ > >-- Please be advised, this communicatiion may be monitored for compliance, customer service, and training. Please speak the name and address of your employer at the tone. ;-) When you are finished speaking you may listen to your recording, send it, delete it, or re-record it. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
Thanks. I knew the card did not have a native resolution. I had read anecdotally of people purchaisng a widescreen monitor and their video card not being being able to support that exact resolution in the driver. Probably just a poor combo. Old card/new monitor. Tom C. >From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:55:55 -0400 > >Tom, > >Native Resolution is a monitor thing, no card has one. Any card on the >market today will support 1680x1050, this is the standard resolution for >20" widescreen LCD's. You may have to set teh driver to the native >resolution of the monitor initially. > >-Adam > > >Tom C wrote: > > Thanks Bill and Adam. I'll ask another question it would otherwise take >me > > a while to get the answer to. > > > > Native resolution. The monitors I'm looking at getting are widescreen >1680 > > x 1050. I see some cards list resolutions both above and below that, >but > > not exactly that. Should I assume that the specific resolution is not > > supported by the card? I likewise see specs that say just because you >don't > > see your monitor resolution listed, does not mean it will not work. > > > > Should I be worried or will the native resolution be detected and the > > firmware adapt itself to the aspect ratio of the monitor (make sense?). > > > > Tom C. > > > > > >> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards > >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:35:11 -0400 > >> > >> Tom C wrote: > >>> It's likely I'll be able to purchase a new desktop soon. I'll be > >> running > >>> dual monitors. Since I can't afford anything I want. I'll be buying a > >>> pre-built off the shelf system. > >>> > >>> The video card that's in it uses the PCI-express bus. I'm looking to > >>> replace it with a card supporting dual DVI output. > >>> > >>> I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions >vary > >> for > >>> numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that >use > >> a > >>> common chip set. > >>> > >>> Any suggestions? Hoping to stay under $250. Not big on buying a card > >> from > >>> an obscure mfr. even if it has a well regarded chip set. Don't care > >> about > >>> gaming at all, just solid all around performance. > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> Tom C. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Sounds like any card on the market will pretty much handle your needs. > >> Dual-DVI cards are essentially dominant in todays market. > >> > >> I'd personally look at an ATI card, but I've had bad luck with nVidia > >> myself. Something along the lines of a HD 2600 would probably be my >choice. > >> > >> -Adam > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >> follow the directions. > > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
David Savage wrote: > It's the PDML, not the PPEDML. > > Anything Pentax related is valid fodder for discussion. > Allow me to rephrase. Anything is valid fodder for discussion. I couldn't resist. Sue me. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
It's the PDML, not the PPEDML. Anything Pentax related is valid fodder for discussion. Cheers, Dave At 11:28 AM 30/10/2007, you wrote: >A Pentax photographic equipment discussion list is not a news service >or economics discussion forum, Tom. > >But I'm done, you can waste your time with this stuff as much as you >want. > >G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
A Pentax photographic equipment discussion list is not a news service or economics discussion forum, Tom. But I'm done, you can waste your time with this stuff as much as you want. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
Shutter speed. G On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > Why are all those people standing there like they're frozen in time > and > space? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
In a message dated 10/29/2007 4:18:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beautiful photo. It makes me think of books by Patricia Highsmith. -- Bob == Very nice photo. But Georgette Heyer. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
In a message dated 10/29/2007 4:31:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, please don't let Tom come between us! ;-)) Jack LOL! Near fear, Jack. He couldn't. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > ya da ya da ya da ya da who gives a goose's liver? > > More of this tiresome BS. If the news is public and someone is > actually interested in it, they can look it up. There is NO reason to > discuss it. Well, so much for pretty much every topic of discussion we've had since the inception of the internet. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:39 PM Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards >I see card mfrs like XFX and Jaton that I've never heard of before. Last > time I shopped for a video card was for a Pentium 133. Matrox, Gigabyte, ASUS, ATI and NVidia (PNY Technologies) are all good brand names. The graphics industry is pretty hot on Matrox, Noritsu uses Matrox cards in their photo labs. The Parhelia card that I just bought supports 4 monitors through dual DVI at an embarrassingly high resolution and pixel count. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
:-) Hey do you want to know how to get down off an elephant? Tom C. >From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:57:42 +0900 > >It's just Pentax related news. > >Whether its good or bad news has nothing to do with Tom. > >Cheers, > >Dave > >At 10:15 AM 30/10/2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: > >He won't have to find out by himself. We know you'll be on top of any > >bad news, Tom. Good news, no. But if it's bad news for Pentax, you're > >all over it. Your record is consistent. This time you thought it was > >bad news, although it really wasn't. But you are quite good at > >finding the dark cloud in the silver lining. > >Paul > >On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > > > However Bob, if the sky is falling, I'll be sure and let you find > > > out all by > > > your little old self. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > >> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:44:43 -0500 > > >> > > >> Tom, > > >> You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... > > >> > > >> Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) > > >> > > >> You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. > > >> That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or > > >> Canon. > > >> Come on, put your money where your mouth is! > > >> Then you can go whine on their lists. > > >> Regards, Bob S. > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
Good advice. Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >- Original Message - >From: "Tom C" >Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards > > > > > > > Should I be worried or will the native resolution be detected and the > > firmware adapt itself to the aspect ratio of the monitor (make sense?). > > > >I'd presume nothing, and drop an email to the tech support of the people >whose card you are interested. > >William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards > > Should I be worried or will the native resolution be detected and the > firmware adapt itself to the aspect ratio of the monitor (make sense?). > I'd presume nothing, and drop an email to the tech support of the people whose card you are interested. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Tom, Take a Financal Accounting course before you do any more pontificating on Pentax's announcements. Any inventory evaluation write down was known long before Hoya took over the company. It's a non-cash, book entry with no impact on the future operations of the company. Same impact on first half profit, a non-cash impact. The profits were already lost a while ago. The company knew this and chose to report these results at this time. Regards, Bob S. On 10/29/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I respectfully ask you to explain then how > > "Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory." > > is good news, > > and how > > "Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen." > > is good news, > > and how > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America"... > > is good news. > > I'm not making the news up and I'm not telling you how to intepret it. You > also read that sales are up by 15%. > > So it's clear you cherry pick what you wish to complain about and appear to > look at silver-linings as evidence of no chance of precipitation. > > Tom C. > > > >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:15:55 -0400 > > > >He won't have to find out by himself. We know you'll be on top of any > >bad news, Tom. Good news, no. But if it's bad news for Pentax, you're > >all over it. Your record is consistent. This time you thought it was > >bad news, although it really wasn't. But you are quite good at > >finding the dark cloud in the silver lining. > >Paul > >On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > > > However Bob, if the sky is falling, I'll be sure and let you find > > > out all by > > > your little old self. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > >> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:44:43 -0500 > > >> > > >> Tom, > > >> You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... > > >> > > >> Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) > > >> > > >> You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. > > >> That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or > > >> Canon. > > >> Come on, put your money where your mouth is! > > >> Then you can go whine on their lists. > > >> Regards, Bob S. > > >> > > >> On 10/29/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Pentax wants to sell everything in their inventory before it > > >>> devalues. > > >> So > > >>> does every company. If Pentax is giving rebates you can bet they > > >>> want > > >> to > > >>> unload the cameras quickly. > > >>> > > >>> It's the product cycle, not necessarily Pentax. > > >>> > > >>> The lifetime of a digital camera in today's market, from release > > >>> to the > > >> time > > >>> it is surpassed, is Dust in the Wind. > > >>> > > >>> Tom C. > > >>> > > >>> > > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:48 -0500 > > > > K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a > > used > > >> Ds > > or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. > > > > Adam Maas wrote: > > > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping > > >> K10D's > > > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > > > > > K110D's on the other hand... > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > > > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, > > >> which > > also > > >> makes medical > > >> equipment rose 15 percent". > > >> > > >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > > >> > > >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and > > >> profit is > > >> up > > >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > > >> > > >> > > >> Tom C. > > >> > > >> > > >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > > >>> > > >>> Tom C wrote: > > >>> > > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, > > missing its > > >> own > > estimate, after writing down
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
Tom, Native Resolution is a monitor thing, no card has one. Any card on the market today will support 1680x1050, this is the standard resolution for 20" widescreen LCD's. You may have to set teh driver to the native resolution of the monitor initially. -Adam Tom C wrote: > Thanks Bill and Adam. I'll ask another question it would otherwise take me > a while to get the answer to. > > Native resolution. The monitors I'm looking at getting are widescreen 1680 > x 1050. I see some cards list resolutions both above and below that, but > not exactly that. Should I assume that the specific resolution is not > supported by the card? I likewise see specs that say just because you don't > see your monitor resolution listed, does not mean it will not work. > > Should I be worried or will the native resolution be detected and the > firmware adapt itself to the aspect ratio of the monitor (make sense?). > > Tom C. > > >> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:35:11 -0400 >> >> Tom C wrote: >>> It's likely I'll be able to purchase a new desktop soon. I'll be >> running >>> dual monitors. Since I can't afford anything I want. I'll be buying a >>> pre-built off the shelf system. >>> >>> The video card that's in it uses the PCI-express bus. I'm looking to >>> replace it with a card supporting dual DVI output. >>> >>> I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions vary >> for >>> numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that use >> a >>> common chip set. >>> >>> Any suggestions? Hoping to stay under $250. Not big on buying a card >> from >>> an obscure mfr. even if it has a well regarded chip set. Don't care >> about >>> gaming at all, just solid all around performance. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Tom C. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Sounds like any card on the market will pretty much handle your needs. >> Dual-DVI cards are essentially dominant in todays market. >> >> I'd personally look at an ATI card, but I've had bad luck with nVidia >> myself. Something along the lines of a HD 2600 would probably be my choice. >> >> -Adam >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
I felt the same ... I never use JPEG capture and use a tripod too much of the time to really mourn the lack of image stabilization, rather than having a better viewfinder and a larger capture buffer. I also use manual focus about half the time. Godfrey On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > Better viewfinder, larger buffer, better build, TTL flash support. The > K110D is really an *istDL with the 11-point AF unit. The K100D only > adds > SR. A > > Having owned the K100D and the DS, apart from SR and AF performance > (And > slightly better JPEG's), the DS is clearly superior. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
ya da ya da ya da ya da, San Andreas... quake ya da ya da, richter scale, ya da ya da. Virtually anything posted here is already known. It happens it's Pentax related. Be guaranteed, when I read something that says Pentax profits are soaring beyond all wildest expectations, or they have just released a killer 645D to shred the pants of the competiton, I'll report that too! Tom C. >From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:51:11 -0700 > >ya da ya da ya da ya da who gives a goose's liver? > >More of this tiresome BS. If the news is public and someone is >actually interested in it, they can look it up. There is NO reason to >discuss it. > >G > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Artist on the Steps
Nice one, Frank. The railing shadow makes me think of the line he's drawing... - MCC --- frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taken yesterday on a beautiful, cool, crisp sunny > autumn afternoon > outside Minsker Synagogue, Toronto's oldest: > > http://tinyurl.com/32zo7j > > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RyXlBAS56DI/A48/nTSAGXW91SI/s1600-h/oct_29+001.jpg > > Nothing earth-shattering, just slice o' life from > Kensington Market, > Toronto's most bohemian neighbourhood. > > Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- Mark Cassino Photography Kalamamazoo, MI www.markcassino.com Photo Books: www.lulu.com/cassino -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
It's just Pentax related news. Whether its good or bad news has nothing to do with Tom. Cheers, Dave At 10:15 AM 30/10/2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: >He won't have to find out by himself. We know you'll be on top of any >bad news, Tom. Good news, no. But if it's bad news for Pentax, you're >all over it. Your record is consistent. This time you thought it was >bad news, although it really wasn't. But you are quite good at >finding the dark cloud in the silver lining. >Paul >On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > However Bob, if the sky is falling, I'll be sure and let you find > > out all by > > your little old self. > > > > Tom C. > > > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > >> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:44:43 -0500 > >> > >> Tom, > >> You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... > >> > >> Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) > >> > >> You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. > >> That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or > >> Canon. > >> Come on, put your money where your mouth is! > >> Then you can go whine on their lists. > >> Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
ya da ya da ya da ya da who gives a goose's liver? More of this tiresome BS. If the news is public and someone is actually interested in it, they can look it up. There is NO reason to discuss it. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
Why are all those people standing there like they're frozen in time and space? ;-) Tom C. >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:38:09 -0700 (PDT) > >That is amazing! > >Jack >--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some photos elicit a lot of commentary and others none. I've gotten > > over 70 comments from people on this one! That's just amazing. > > > > Thank you all. > > > > Godfrey > > > > >> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Better viewfinder, larger buffer, better build, TTL flash support. The K110D is really an *istDL with the 11-point AF unit. The K100D only adds SR. A Having owned the K100D and the DS, apart from SR and AF performance(And slightly better JPEG's), the DS is clearly superior. -Adam Paul Stenquist wrote: > Strange. Why is a Ds a better camera overall? Enlighten us. > Paul > On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > >> K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a >> used Ds >> or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. >> >> Adam Maas wrote: >>> I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >>> K10D's >>> out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. >>> >>> K110D's on the other hand... >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> Tom C wrote: >>> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which also makes medical equipment rose 15 percent". I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). Tom C. > From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > > Tom C wrote: > >> Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: >> >> Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing >> its own >> estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. >> >> Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the >> six months >> ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion >> yen. >> > Sales > >> at the company, which also makes medical >> equipment rose 15 percent. >> >> "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we >> had >> difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North >> America, Jiro >> Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said >> by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 >> million >> > yen, > >> he said. >> >> The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion >> yen. >> Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >> > administrative > >> expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from >> 1.56 billion yen. >> >> -- >> >> Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that >> great >> > after > >> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. >> >> Tom C. >> >> >> >> > That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've > seen here > in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J > lenses, and > a few DS's and DL's. > > If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a > lot more > things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess > stock. > > It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they > were > sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which > impacted their > net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the > operating > profit increase. > > -Adam > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and > follow the directions. > >>> >>> >> >> -- >> The difference between individual intelligence and group >> intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the >> Harvard University football team. >> >> -- P. J. O'Roark >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
Thanks Bill and Adam. I'll ask another question it would otherwise take me a while to get the answer to. Native resolution. The monitors I'm looking at getting are widescreen 1680 x 1050. I see some cards list resolutions both above and below that, but not exactly that. Should I assume that the specific resolution is not supported by the card? I likewise see specs that say just because you don't see your monitor resolution listed, does not mean it will not work. Should I be worried or will the native resolution be detected and the firmware adapt itself to the aspect ratio of the monitor (make sense?). Tom C. >From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:35:11 -0400 > >Tom C wrote: > > It's likely I'll be able to purchase a new desktop soon. I'll be >running > > dual monitors. Since I can't afford anything I want. I'll be buying a > > pre-built off the shelf system. > > > > The video card that's in it uses the PCI-express bus. I'm looking to > > replace it with a card supporting dual DVI output. > > > > I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions vary >for > > numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that use >a > > common chip set. > > > > Any suggestions? Hoping to stay under $250. Not big on buying a card >from > > an obscure mfr. even if it has a well regarded chip set. Don't care >about > > gaming at all, just solid all around performance. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > >Sounds like any card on the market will pretty much handle your needs. >Dual-DVI cards are essentially dominant in todays market. > >I'd personally look at an ATI card, but I've had bad luck with nVidia >myself. Something along the lines of a HD 2600 would probably be my choice. > >-Adam > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
That is amazing! Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some photos elicit a lot of commentary and others none. I've gotten > over 70 comments from people on this one! That's just amazing. > > Thank you all. > > Godfrey > > >> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
Tom C wrote: > It's likely I'll be able to purchase a new desktop soon. I'll be running > dual monitors. Since I can't afford anything I want. I'll be buying a > pre-built off the shelf system. > > The video card that's in it uses the PCI-express bus. I'm looking to > replace it with a card supporting dual DVI output. > > I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions vary for > numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that use a > common chip set. > > Any suggestions? Hoping to stay under $250. Not big on buying a card from > an obscure mfr. even if it has a well regarded chip set. Don't care about > gaming at all, just solid all around performance. > > Thanks. > > Tom C. > > > Sounds like any card on the market will pretty much handle your needs. Dual-DVI cards are essentially dominant in todays market. I'd personally look at an ATI card, but I've had bad luck with nVidia myself. Something along the lines of a HD 2600 would probably be my choice. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
I respectfully ask you to explain then how "Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory." is good news, and how "Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen." is good news, and how "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America"... is good news. I'm not making the news up and I'm not telling you how to intepret it. You also read that sales are up by 15%. So it's clear you cherry pick what you wish to complain about and appear to look at silver-linings as evidence of no chance of precipitation. Tom C. >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:15:55 -0400 > >He won't have to find out by himself. We know you'll be on top of any >bad news, Tom. Good news, no. But if it's bad news for Pentax, you're >all over it. Your record is consistent. This time you thought it was >bad news, although it really wasn't. But you are quite good at >finding the dark cloud in the silver lining. >Paul >On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > However Bob, if the sky is falling, I'll be sure and let you find > > out all by > > your little old self. > > > > Tom C. > > > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > >> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:44:43 -0500 > >> > >> Tom, > >> You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... > >> > >> Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) > >> > >> You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. > >> That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or > >> Canon. > >> Come on, put your money where your mouth is! > >> Then you can go whine on their lists. > >> Regards, Bob S. > >> > >> On 10/29/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Pentax wants to sell everything in their inventory before it > >>> devalues. > >> So > >>> does every company. If Pentax is giving rebates you can bet they > >>> want > >> to > >>> unload the cameras quickly. > >>> > >>> It's the product cycle, not necessarily Pentax. > >>> > >>> The lifetime of a digital camera in today's market, from release > >>> to the > >> time > >>> it is surpassed, is Dust in the Wind. > >>> > >>> Tom C. > >>> > >>> > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:48 -0500 > > K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a > used > >> Ds > or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. > > Adam Maas wrote: > > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping > >> K10D's > > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > > > K110D's on the other hand... > > > > -Adam > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, > >> which > also > >> makes medical > >> equipment rose 15 percent". > >> > >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > >> > >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and > >> profit is > >> up > >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > >> > >> > >> Tom C. > >> > >> > >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > >>> > >>> Tom C wrote: > >>> > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, > missing its > >> own > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the > six > months > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion > >> yen. > > >>> Sales > >>> > at the company, which also makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent. > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we > >> had > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North > America, > >> Jiro > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 > million > > >>> yen, > >>> > he said. > > >>>
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
Some photos elicit a lot of commentary and others none. I've gotten over 70 comments from people on this one! That's just amazing. Thank you all. Godfrey >> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Strange. Why is a Ds a better camera overall? Enlighten us. Paul On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a > used Ds > or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. > > Adam Maas wrote: >> I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >> K10D's >> out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. >> >> K110D's on the other hand... >> >> -Adam >> >> >> Tom C wrote: >> >>> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, >>> which also >>> makes medical >>> equipment rose 15 percent". >>> >>> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. >>> >>> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit >>> is up >>> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). >>> >>> >>> Tom C. >>> >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 Tom C wrote: > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing > its own > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the > six months > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion > yen. > Sales > at the company, which also makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent. > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we > had > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North > America, Jiro > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 > million > yen, > he said. > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion > yen. > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and > administrative > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > 1.56 billion yen. > > -- > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that > great > after > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > Tom C. > > > > That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've seen here in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J lenses, and a few DS's and DL's. If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess stock. It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they were sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted their net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the operating profit increase. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > The difference between individual intelligence and group > intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the > Harvard University football team. > > -- P. J. O'Roark > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
He won't have to find out by himself. We know you'll be on top of any bad news, Tom. Good news, no. But if it's bad news for Pentax, you're all over it. Your record is consistent. This time you thought it was bad news, although it really wasn't. But you are quite good at finding the dark cloud in the silver lining. Paul On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > However Bob, if the sky is falling, I'll be sure and let you find > out all by > your little old self. > > Tom C. > >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:44:43 -0500 >> >> Tom, >> You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... >> >> Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) >> >> You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. >> That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or >> Canon. >> Come on, put your money where your mouth is! >> Then you can go whine on their lists. >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On 10/29/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Pentax wants to sell everything in their inventory before it >>> devalues. >> So >>> does every company. If Pentax is giving rebates you can bet they >>> want >> to >>> unload the cameras quickly. >>> >>> It's the product cycle, not necessarily Pentax. >>> >>> The lifetime of a digital camera in today's market, from release >>> to the >> time >>> it is surpassed, is Dust in the Wind. >>> >>> Tom C. >>> >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:48 -0500 K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a used >> Ds or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. Adam Maas wrote: > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >> K10D's > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > K110D's on the other hand... > > -Adam > > > Tom C wrote: > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, >> which also >> makes medical >> equipment rose 15 percent". >> >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. >> >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and >> profit is >> up >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). >> >> >> Tom C. >> >> >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 >>> >>> Tom C wrote: >>> Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its >> own estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion >> yen. >>> Sales >>> at the company, which also makes medical equipment rose 15 percent. "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we >> had difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, >> Jiro Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million >>> yen, >>> he said. The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion >> yen. Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >>> administrative >>> expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from 1.56 billion yen. -- Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that >> great >>> after >>> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. Tom C. >>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've >> seen here >>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J >> lenses, and >>> a few DS's and DL's. >>> >>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a >> lot more >>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess >> stock. >>> >>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they >> were >>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which >>> impacted their >>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the >>
Re: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
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Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards >I see card mfrs like XFX and Jaton that I've never heard of before. Last > time I shopped for a video card was for a Pentium 133. I forgot MSI/Microstar. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
However Bob, if the sky is falling, I'll be sure and let you find out all by your little old self. Tom C. >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:44:43 -0500 > >Tom, >You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... > >Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) > >You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. >That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or Canon. >Come on, put your money where your mouth is! >Then you can go whine on their lists. >Regards, Bob S. > >On 10/29/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pentax wants to sell everything in their inventory before it devalues. >So > > does every company. If Pentax is giving rebates you can bet they want >to > > unload the cameras quickly. > > > > It's the product cycle, not necessarily Pentax. > > > > The lifetime of a digital camera in today's market, from release to the >time > > it is surpassed, is Dust in the Wind. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:48 -0500 > > > > > >K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a used >Ds > > >or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. > > > > > >Adam Maas wrote: > > > > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >K10D's > > > > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > > > > > > > K110D's on the other hand... > > > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > > > > > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, >which > > >also > > > >> makes medical > > > >> equipment rose 15 percent". > > > >> > > > >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > > > >> > > > >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is >up > > > >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Tom C. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > > >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > > > >>> > > > >>> Tom C wrote: > > > >>> > > > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > > > > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its >own > > > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > > > > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six > > >months > > > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion >yen. > > > > > > >>> Sales > > > >>> > > > at the company, which also makes medical > > > equipment rose 15 percent. > > > > > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we >had > > > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, >Jiro > > > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > > > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 > > >million > > > > > > >>> yen, > > > >>> > > > he said. > > > > > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion >yen. > > > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and > > > > > > >>> administrative > > > >>> > > > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > > > 1.56 billion yen. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that >great > > > > > > >>> after > > > >>> > > > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've >seen > > >here > > > >>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J >lenses, > > >and > > > >>> a few DS's and DL's. > > > >>> > > > >>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a >lot > > >more > > > >>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess >stock. > > > >>> > > > >>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they >were > > > >>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted > > >their > > > >>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the >operating > > > >>> profit increase. > > > >>> > > > >>> -Adam > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>> PDML@pdml.net > > > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and > > > >>> follow the directions. > > > >>> > >
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
LOL. You are the only one saying the "sky is falling". I'm merely passing on public information. You can interpret it however you wish. Tom C. >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:44:43 -0500 > >Tom, >You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... > >Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) > >You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. >That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or Canon. >Come on, put your money where your mouth is! >Then you can go whine on their lists. >Regards, Bob S. > >On 10/29/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pentax wants to sell everything in their inventory before it devalues. >So > > does every company. If Pentax is giving rebates you can bet they want >to > > unload the cameras quickly. > > > > It's the product cycle, not necessarily Pentax. > > > > The lifetime of a digital camera in today's market, from release to the >time > > it is surpassed, is Dust in the Wind. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:48 -0500 > > > > > >K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a used >Ds > > >or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. > > > > > >Adam Maas wrote: > > > > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping >K10D's > > > > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > > > > > > > K110D's on the other hand... > > > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > > > > > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, >which > > >also > > > >> makes medical > > > >> equipment rose 15 percent". > > > >> > > > >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > > > >> > > > >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is >up > > > >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Tom C. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > > >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > > > >>> > > > >>> Tom C wrote: > > > >>> > > > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > > > > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its >own > > > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > > > > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six > > >months > > > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion >yen. > > > > > > >>> Sales > > > >>> > > > at the company, which also makes medical > > > equipment rose 15 percent. > > > > > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we >had > > > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, >Jiro > > > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > > > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 > > >million > > > > > > >>> yen, > > > >>> > > > he said. > > > > > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion >yen. > > > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and > > > > > > >>> administrative > > > >>> > > > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > > > 1.56 billion yen. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that >great > > > > > > >>> after > > > >>> > > > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've >seen > > >here > > > >>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J >lenses, > > >and > > > >>> a few DS's and DL's. > > > >>> > > > >>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a >lot > > >more > > > >>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess >stock. > > > >>> > > > >>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they >were > > > >>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted > > >their > > > >>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the >operating > > > >>> profit increase. > > > >>> > > > >>> -Adam > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > >>> PDML@pdml.net > > > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and > >
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards > It's likely I'll be able to purchase a new desktop soon. I'll be running > dual monitors. Since I can't afford anything I want. I'll be buying a > pre-built off the shelf system. > > The video card that's in it uses the PCI-express bus. I'm looking to > replace it with a card supporting dual DVI output. > > I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions vary > for > numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that use a > common chip set. > > Any suggestions? Hoping to stay under $250. Not big on buying a card from > an obscure mfr. even if it has a well regarded chip set. Don't care about > gaming at all, just solid all around performance. This should do it for you http://matrox.com/graphics/en/crepro/products/pseries/p650lp.php or http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23693&vpn=GV-NX86S256H-B&manufacture=Gigabyte William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Tom, You are s predictable. You should sign all your posts... Chicken Little (The sky is falling, THE SKY IS FALLING!!) You should sell all your Pentax equipment before the market is gone. That would leave you free to purchase a GOOD system like Nikon or Canon. Come on, put your money where your mouth is! Then you can go whine on their lists. Regards, Bob S. On 10/29/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pentax wants to sell everything in their inventory before it devalues. So > does every company. If Pentax is giving rebates you can bet they want to > unload the cameras quickly. > > It's the product cycle, not necessarily Pentax. > > The lifetime of a digital camera in today's market, from release to the time > it is surpassed, is Dust in the Wind. > > Tom C. > > > >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:48 -0500 > > > >K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a used Ds > >or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. > > > >Adam Maas wrote: > > > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping K10D's > > > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > > > > > K110D's on the other hand... > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > > > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which > >also > > >> makes medical > > >> equipment rose 15 percent". > > >> > > >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > > >> > > >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up > > >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > > >> > > >> > > >> Tom C. > > >> > > >> > > >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > > >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > > >>> > > >>> Tom C wrote: > > >>> > > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six > >months > > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. > > > > >>> Sales > > >>> > > at the company, which also makes medical > > equipment rose 15 percent. > > > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro > > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 > >million > > > > >>> yen, > > >>> > > he said. > > > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. > > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and > > > > >>> administrative > > >>> > > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > > 1.56 billion yen. > > > > -- > > > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great > > > > >>> after > > >>> > > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > >>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've seen > >here > > >>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J lenses, > >and > > >>> a few DS's and DL's. > > >>> > > >>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a lot > >more > > >>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess stock. > > >>> > > >>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they were > > >>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted > >their > > >>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the operating > > >>> profit increase. > > >>> > > >>> -Adam > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >>> PDML@pdml.net > > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > >>> follow the directions. > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is > >the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University > >football team. > > > > -- P. J. O'Roark > > > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >PDML@pdml.net > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visi
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
I see card mfrs like XFX and Jaton that I've never heard of before. Last time I shopped for a video card was for a Pentium 133. Tom C. >From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:29:39 +0900 > >On 10/30/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions vary >for > > numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that use >a > > common chip set. > >Nvidia & ATI loyalty & the debates about who's product is better are >as vicious as OS wars. > >I can't help with suggestions, as it's been a while since I've looked >at what's out there. > > >Cheers, > >Dave > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Barmaid
> Did you read the enjoyable beer article in the NYT last week? > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/dining/24pour.html?_r=1&oref=slogin > Very encouraging to read of the double-digit growth in the craft beer market in the US. Really tremendous opportunity to bring good beer to the general public. Although I've only been homebrewing for a bit over two years, I've got many dozens of sucessful batches I've enjoyed in that time. Although I haven't done the "true" cask ale, my kegerator is set to 50 degrees F, and carbonation is low for pretty much everything except the Weissbier. On tap now: - Bavarian Weiss - Imperial American IPA (clone of Stone IPA) - American Rye pale ale - Export Scottish Ale - Oatmeal molasses imperial sweet stout Secondary fermenting: - Strong Scottish Ale - American harvest holiday ale (pumpkin, corn, rye, and spices) - Hard apple cider Primary fermenting: - Dry American west-coast stout - German-style extra-special-bitter Cheers (*HIC*), -Cory :) -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
On 10/30/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions vary for > numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that use a > common chip set. Nvidia & ATI loyalty & the debates about who's product is better are as vicious as OS wars. I can't help with suggestions, as it's been a while since I've looked at what's out there. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Dual DVI Video Cards
It's likely I'll be able to purchase a new desktop soon. I'll be running dual monitors. Since I can't afford anything I want. I'll be buying a pre-built off the shelf system. The video card that's in it uses the PCI-express bus. I'm looking to replace it with a card supporting dual DVI output. I notice that some say nVidia based cards are superior and opinions vary for numerous reasons. I also see there are numerous manufacturers that use a common chip set. Any suggestions? Hoping to stay under $250. Not big on buying a card from an obscure mfr. even if it has a well regarded chip set. Don't care about gaming at all, just solid all around performance. Thanks. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Pentax wants to sell everything in their inventory before it devalues. So does every company. If Pentax is giving rebates you can bet they want to unload the cameras quickly. It's the product cycle, not necessarily Pentax. The lifetime of a digital camera in today's market, from release to the time it is surpassed, is Dust in the Wind. Tom C. >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:21:48 -0500 > >K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a used Ds >or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. > >Adam Maas wrote: > > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping K10D's > > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > > > K110D's on the other hand... > > > > -Adam > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which >also > >> makes medical > >> equipment rose 15 percent". > >> > >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > >> > >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up > >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > >> > >> > >> Tom C. > >> > >> > >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown > >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > >>> > >>> Tom C wrote: > >>> > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six >months > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. > > >>> Sales > >>> > at the company, which also makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent. > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 >million > > >>> yen, > >>> > he said. > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and > > >>> administrative > >>> > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > 1.56 billion yen. > > -- > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great > > >>> after > >>> > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > Tom C. > > > > > >>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've seen >here > >>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J lenses, >and > >>> a few DS's and DL's. > >>> > >>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a lot >more > >>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess stock. > >>> > >>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they were > >>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted >their > >>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the operating > >>> profit increase. > >>> > >>> -Adam > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >>> follow the directions. > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >-- >The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is >the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University >football team. > > -- P. J. O'Roark > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
They must not read like you do. The post said sales are up 15%. Tom C. >From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:20:29 -0500 > >Or maybe potential customers were reading your posts saying Pentax was >going >down the drain and avoided buying their products. > > >Tom C wrote: > > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months > > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. >Sales > > at the company, which also makes medical > > equipment rose 15 percent. > > > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro > > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million >yen, > > he said. > > > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. > > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >administrative > > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > > 1.56 billion yen. > > > > -- > > > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great >after > > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
Marnie, please don't let Tom come between us! ;-)) Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack, really. There's little need for sarcasm. > > > Tom C. > > > From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Your endearing patience will always pay off. :) > > > >Jack > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 10/29/2007 10:57:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight > Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Replace the sky!! > > > > > > > > > Well, I suppose I could, though it would take some doing. > > > > > > Okay, gang in a week or two I'll show it again, redone. I'll get > a > > > decent > > > photo out of it yet. > > > > > > Heh. > > > > > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > > > > > - > > > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** See what's new at > > > http://www.aol.com > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > >__ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >PDML@pdml.net > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and > >follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
K110d's seem to be MIA, not available anywhere, but then again a used Ds or Ds2 sells for less and is a better camera overall. Adam Maas wrote: > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping K10D's > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > K110D's on the other hand... > > -Adam > > > Tom C wrote: > >> I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which also >> makes medical >> equipment rose 15 percent". >> >> I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. >> >> What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up >> (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). >> >> >> Tom C. >> >> >>> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >>> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 >>> >>> Tom C wrote: >>> Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. >>> Sales >>> at the company, which also makes medical equipment rose 15 percent. "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million >>> yen, >>> he said. The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >>> administrative >>> expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from 1.56 billion yen. -- Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great >>> after >>> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. Tom C. >>> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've seen here >>> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J lenses, and >>> a few DS's and DL's. >>> >>> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a lot more >>> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess stock. >>> >>> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they were >>> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted their >>> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the operating >>> profit increase. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> > > > -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
Beautiful photo. It makes me think of books by Patricia Highsmith. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of ann sanfedele > Sent: 29 October 2007 22:56 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2 > > Taking a page from Godders style -- I'm actually seeing if I > can gather > 12 shots to make a calendar > with this theme > > http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/3590016/1/204029646/Large > > > If any of you are planning to buy any of my three books it would be > great if you > did that before the end of this month, if possible -- then > I'll get paid > in November. > Also, let me know if you do buy any of the stuff from lulu > because it is > the only way > I can see who did. On cafepress, they tell you. > > As I'm doing with a couple of you who did by my book, I'll > send a little > insert that is signed, if you care :) > > I'm still in a hard place right now where I can't really > order a bunch > of the books to sell directly myself - > I'm trying not to use any credit cards right now for > anything. I need > more discipline in my old life! > > ann > > http://annsan.smugmug.com/ > http://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff > http://www.lulu.com/content/1228584 > http://www.lulu.com/content/1145976 > http://www.lulu.com/content/1134715 > http://home.nyc.rr.com/annsansdirectory/ > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
In a message dated 10/29/2007 3:47:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beautiful, Marnie. The only thing that bothers me is that the reflection of the nearer cliff seems too strong in comparison to the reflection of the farther mountain. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) = Thanks, Doug. Yeah, I don't mind the sort of god rays light effect, but the reflection and mountain should balance. Going to work on it. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Be Seated / Chairs - #2
Taking a page from Godders style -- I'm actually seeing if I can gather 12 shots to make a calendar with this theme http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/3590016/1/204029646/Large If any of you are planning to buy any of my three books it would be great if you did that before the end of this month, if possible -- then I'll get paid in November. Also, let me know if you do buy any of the stuff from lulu because it is the only way I can see who did. On cafepress, they tell you. As I'm doing with a couple of you who did by my book, I'll send a little insert that is signed, if you care :) I'm still in a hard place right now where I can't really order a bunch of the books to sell directly myself - I'm trying not to use any credit cards right now for anything. I need more discipline in my old life! ann http://annsan.smugmug.com/ http://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff http://www.lulu.com/content/1228584 http://www.lulu.com/content/1145976 http://www.lulu.com/content/1134715 http://home.nyc.rr.com/annsansdirectory/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Adam Maas wrote: > I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping K10D's > out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. > > K110D's on the other hand... > I'd be willing to help them get rid of one, if it was written down anyway and thus valueless, I mean ;-) - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
LOL at both of you. Tom C. >From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1 >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:41:05 -0400 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >In a message dated 10/29/2007 2:42:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >No problem. I was just thinking you may spend a lot of time to get > >something that still might not make you totally happy in the end. >You're > >free to try of course. Photoshop is always a learning experience. > > > > > >Tom C. > > > >== > >Easier than returning to Yosemite. Which I can't this year. Although I >may > >do next year. It does make one want to return and try again. > > > >BTW, everyone, I apologized to Tom off list and we kissed and made up. >Your > >eyes are not astounding you. > > > >Marnie aka Doe ;-) > > > >the virtual world has its benefits _ I can't see you kissing and you >cant see my eyes :) > >ann > > > > >- > >Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > > > > > >** See what's new at >http://www.aol.com > > > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
Cotty wrote: > On 28/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I don't think it looks too bad, although it could be better... >> >> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/reflection1.htm > > > ver nice marn, well done. what paul said. Beautiful, Marnie. The only thing that bothers me is that the reflection of the nearer cliff seems too strong in comparison to the reflection of the farther mountain. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ok to post PESO theme idea?
P. J. Alling wrote: >Hadn't you noticed that there really aren't any rules here? > LOL! -- I guess he didn't :) which makes me happy -- in case my darkside shots work better than my pentax ones ann > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>I have an idea for a fun PESO theme (for anyone who is interested), but I'm >>unsure if such a thing is allowed. It does not conflict with current PUG >>themes, as far as I can tell. The point for anyone who wants to participate >>would be to post an image they've already taken that fits the theme. It's >>the >>same concept as a PUG theme, but on the list instead of the PUG site. >> >>So, is that okay, or not allowed outside of the PUG? >> >>John Celio >> >>P.S.: The theme I had in mind is related to halloween, so I was hoping to >>start >>the thread tonight if possible. >> >> >> >> > > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Tom C wrote: > I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which also > makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent". > > I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > > No, I don't think it works quite that way. You don't include equipment that's sold a short time after it's produced in an inventory writedown, I believe. If you have a large supply of parts whose price have dropped that may be included, I suppose, but the final selling price of the product has little to do with this. Generally, a "loss" caused by a writedown is a sort of manipulation of numbers. It represents value that's gone, of course, but when exactly it's included in the results is somewhat arbitrary. Also, remember that the sub $700 price is included in the 15 percent increase in sales, so as to speak. > What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up > (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > If net income is down only due to a writedown, that's probably close to "good", too. - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >In a message dated 10/29/2007 2:42:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >No problem. I was just thinking you may spend a lot of time to get >something that still might not make you totally happy in the end. You're >free to try of course. Photoshop is always a learning experience. > > >Tom C. > >== >Easier than returning to Yosemite. Which I can't this year. Although I may >do next year. It does make one want to return and try again. > >BTW, everyone, I apologized to Tom off list and we kissed and made up. Your >eyes are not astounding you. > >Marnie aka Doe ;-) > the virtual world has its benefits _ I can't see you kissing and you cant see my eyes :) ann > >- >Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > >** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
I doubt it, from everything I've seen, Pentax has been shipping K10D's out to stores about as fast as they can get them in. K110D's on the other hand... -Adam Tom C wrote: > I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which also > makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent". > > I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. > > What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up > (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). > > > Tom C. > >> From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 >> >> Tom C wrote: >>> Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: >>> >>> Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own >>> estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. >>> >>> Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months >>> ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. >> Sales >>> at the company, which also makes medical >>> equipment rose 15 percent. >>> >>> "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had >>> difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro >>> Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said >>> by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million >> yen, >>> he said. >>> >>> The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. >>> Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >> administrative >>> expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from >>> 1.56 billion yen. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great >> after >>> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. >>> >>> Tom C. >>> >>> >>> >> That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've seen here >> in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J lenses, and >> a few DS's and DL's. >> >> If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a lot more >> things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess stock. >> >> It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they were >> sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted their >> net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the operating >> profit increase. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ok to post PESO theme idea?
Adam Maas wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>I have an idea for a fun PESO theme (for anyone who is interested), but I'm >>unsure if such a thing is allowed. It does not conflict with current PUG >>themes, as far as I can tell. The point for anyone who wants to participate >>would be to post an image they've already taken that fits the theme. It's >>the >>same concept as a PUG theme, but on the list instead of the PUG site. >> >>So, is that okay, or not allowed outside of the PUG? >> >>John Celio >> >>P.S.: The theme I had in mind is related to halloween, so I was hoping to >>start >>the thread tonight if possible. >> >> >> > >Works for me. > >-Adam > Hmmm wonder what John means by "related to" halloween... ann > > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >On my way to Sausalito last Friday evening ... > > http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm > >Comments, critique, etc. always appreciated. > >enjoy >Godfrey > > > OMYGOD - its the pod people! Is this your scary Halloween time shot, Godders? Be afraid be very afraid I love it ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
> >> [ ... ] >> -- >> >> Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great after >> all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. >> >> > This thread's going in the plonk file right now. I just can't handle > the speculation anymore. > I believe you may end up deleting all posts to this list that way. If you'll allow me to speculate a bit, I mean. - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
In a message dated 10/29/2007 2:42:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No problem. I was just thinking you may spend a lot of time to get something that still might not make you totally happy in the end. You're free to try of course. Photoshop is always a learning experience. Tom C. == Easier than returning to Yosemite. Which I can't this year. Although I may do next year. It does make one want to return and try again. BTW, everyone, I apologized to Tom off list and we kissed and made up. Your eyes are not astounding you. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
keith_w wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> In a message dated 10/29/2007 1:02:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> On my way to Sausalito last Friday evening ... >> >> http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm >> >> Comments, critique, etc. always appreciated. >> >> enjoy >> Godfrey > >> = >> That's a very odd shot, Godfrey. Surreal. That girl standing dead center. >> The only thing I don't like is the woman with the ear phones being slightly >> obscured by the walking man. > > She and he contribute to the frame. A split second later, there would be four > subjects. Now there's only one...the girl text messaging someone... > >> But a minor nit pick. Too bad you can't clone the >> car hood out. Something very disconcerting about the whole thing. >> >> Excellent. >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) > > To each his own, seems to me. EVeryone is so clearly self-absorbed. > > All in his or her own world, purposefully distracted by something other than > the present. > Yeah, a good catch indeed. A second either way would have lost it. With or > without the car hood! Tsk, tsk... > > Well done. > > keith > What he said. :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - The Barmaid
From: "Bob W" >> Did you read the enjoyable beer article in the NYT last week? >> > >> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/dining/24pour.html?_r=1&oref=slogin >> > > > No, and I'm not going to because it wants me to register. The only > reason they could want me to register is so that they can send me > spam. I don't want them to send me spam, so the New York Times has > lost one potential reader who would have been very interested to look > at their artice, and would also have seen their advertising. So that's > a lose-lose-lose situation. Cretins. I've been registered with the NYT for maybe six years now and have received two emails from them in all that time; the initial one to confirm my registration and recently a second to inform me they were dropping "Times Select". No SPAM there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Untitled XV [the horror of Barbie]
David Savage wrote: > On 10/30/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From: "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> One of my co-workers told me she's glad she has a son, instead of a >>> daughter, 'cause "GI Joe ain't gotta have a dream house to sleep in!" >> Wrong! >> >> He sleeps in Barbie's dream house. (Ken's a woose.) > > Wrong again! > > Not a lot of sleeping going on... > And after the non-sleeping, Joe's just gonna roll out anyway... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/29/2007 1:02:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On my way to Sausalito last Friday evening ... > > http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm > > Comments, critique, etc. always appreciated. > > enjoy > Godfrey > = > That's a very odd shot, Godfrey. Surreal. That girl standing dead center. > The only thing I don't like is the woman with the ear phones being slightly > obscured by the walking man. She and he contribute to the frame. A split second later, there would be four subjects. Now there's only one...the girl text messaging someone... > But a minor nit pick. Too bad you can't clone the > car hood out. Something very disconcerting about the whole thing. > > Excellent. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) To each his own, seems to me. EVeryone is so clearly self-absorbed. All in his or her own world, purposefully distracted by something other than the present. Yeah, a good catch indeed. A second either way would have lost it. With or without the car hood! Tsk, tsk... Well done. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ok to post PESO theme idea?
David Savage wrote: > On 10/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> P.S.: The theme I had in mind is related to halloween, so I was hoping to >> start >> the thread tonight if possible. >> > > > Sounds fine to me, but Halloween isn't a big deal in this corner of > the world. I'd have nothing to contribute. > Neither is it here, really, and I wouldn't mind keeping it that way, but unfortunately certain Market Forces don't agree with me. (How is that for starting a discussion?) > Cheers, > > Dave > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
No problem. I was just thinking you may spend a lot of time to get something that still might not make you totally happy in the end. You're free to try of course. Photoshop is always a learning experience. Tom C. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1 >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:56:47 EDT > >In a message dated 10/29/2007 9:33:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Really, as happens to us all, the timing was wrong. To get a really good >shot one must luck out and be there at the right time or be willing to >come >back at the right time. > >All the PS'ing in the world won't make a shot like this as good as the >original taken at the right time in the right light would. > >Yosemite is stunning but this shot is not. It's just a matter of timing >and >light. Given that, the composition needs cleaned up around the edges. >The >small portions of trees and plant material encroaching should be cropped >because they detract from the scene. > > >Tom C. > >== >I debated that, cloning out leaves and grass at bottom. > >Actually, some other times of day were much worse. Too much sun on the >water, or too much shadow. There may easily have been a better time of >day, but >the time I was there/choose was not the worst. > >However, to get really spectacular shots at Yosemite, I found out one must >know exactly where the good shooting spots are and what time of day to be >at >them. For instance, Half Dome, from the valley, is only good near sunset, >the >rest of the time it casts a shadow on itself and the inner surface is >barely >visible. So it isn't easy. I think one probably does better the more often >one goes. Familiarity helps a great deal. > >Thanks for looking and commenting, Tom. > >Marnie aka Doe > > > >- >Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > >** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ok to post PESO theme idea?
Hadn't you noticed that there really aren't any rules here? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have an idea for a fun PESO theme (for anyone who is interested), but I'm > unsure if such a thing is allowed. It does not conflict with current PUG > themes, as far as I can tell. The point for anyone who wants to participate > would be to post an image they've already taken that fits the theme. It's > the > same concept as a PUG theme, but on the list instead of the PUG site. > > So, is that okay, or not allowed outside of the PUG? > > John Celio > > P.S.: The theme I had in mind is related to halloween, so I was hoping to > start > the thread tonight if possible. > > -- The difference between individual intelligence and group intelligence is the difference between Harvard University and the Harvard University football team. -- P. J. O'Roark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA Limited lenses on film
I already knew the DA40 was pretty good as a full frame lens. The DA70 isn't bad either - tiny bit of vignetting up to f2.8. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/07_10/07_10_DA/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Untitled XV [the horror of Barbie]
On 10/30/07, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > One of my co-workers told me she's glad she has a son, instead of a > > daughter, 'cause "GI Joe ain't gotta have a dream house to sleep in!" > > Wrong! > > He sleeps in Barbie's dream house. (Ken's a woose.) Wrong again! Not a lot of sleeping going on... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
I said alot more because the article said "Sales at the company, which also makes medical equipment rose 15 percent". I suspect alot of those sub-$700 K10D's are in the writedown. What is says to me is that while sales are up (good) and profit is up (good), due to the writedown, net income is down (bad). Tom C. >From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:51:00 -0400 > >Tom C wrote: > > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months > > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. >Sales > > at the company, which also makes medical > > equipment rose 15 percent. > > > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro > > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million >yen, > > he said. > > > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. > > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and >administrative > > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > > 1.56 billion yen. > > > > -- > > > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great >after > > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > >That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've seen here >in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J lenses, and >a few DS's and DL's. > >If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a lot more >things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess stock. > >It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they were >sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted their >net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the operating >profit increase. > >-Adam > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ok to post PESO theme idea?
On 10/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S.: The theme I had in mind is related to halloween, so I was hoping to > start > the thread tonight if possible. Sounds fine to me, but Halloween isn't a big deal in this corner of the world. I'd have nothing to contribute. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A Few Nov PUG Comments
> Sheep would of course never climb a > glacier on their > own, since there is nothing to eat. > > Thrainn > It wouldn't be safe on their own either. They need another sheep to belay for them when they get to difficult bits, and to lock off the rope if they slip. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Few Nov PUG Comments
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:25:23PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -- Original message -- > From: Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sheep would of course never climb a glacier on their > > own, since there is nothing to eat. > > > That would probably stop me as well :-). > Paul Aah, but if there were sheep there ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
Jack, really. There's little need for sarcasm. Tom C. From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Your endearing patience will always pay off. :) > >Jack >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/29/2007 10:57:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Replace the sky!! > > > > > > Well, I suppose I could, though it would take some doing. > > > > Okay, gang in a week or two I'll show it again, redone. I'll get a > > decent > > photo out of it yet. > > > > Heh. > > > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > > > - > > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > > > > > > ** See what's new at > > http://www.aol.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Good Words for PhotoRescue PC
A friend asked if I could send him some photos I'd taken for his son to use in a school project, including some of his son and him. When I went looking for them I discovered that I had formatted my 4GB microdrive and started shooting again, without downloading the images. I knew recovery software existed but had never had the need to use. It's likely PhotoRescue is a barebones application as it's the first I chose to eplore after googling. I downloaded the trial version and it was able to rebuild all images on the drive. I hadn't yet reached the point of overwriting the images I cared about. I then spent the $29.95 to get the full version that ostensibly actually allows me to recover the images. Well apparently they were recovered $29.95 or not because when browsing them in Bridge, I was able to find them. :-0 In any case the software worked the very first time, was mindless to use, and saved me from myself. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Tom C wrote: > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. Sales > at the company, which also makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent. > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million yen, > he said. > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and administrative > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > 1.56 billion yen. > > -- > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great after > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > This thread's going in the plonk file right now. I just can't handle the speculation anymore. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Untitled XV [the horror of Barbie]
From: "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > One of my co-workers told me she's glad she has a son, instead of a > daughter, 'cause "GI Joe ain't gotta have a dream house to sleep in!" Wrong! He sleeps in Barbie's dream house. (Ken's a woose.) Regards, Bob... "Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection." -Jean Luc Godard -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Inventory Writedown
Tom C wrote: > Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: > > Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own > estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. > > Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months > ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. Sales > at the company, which also makes medical > equipment rose 15 percent. > > "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had > difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro > Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said > by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million yen, > he said. > > The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. > Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and administrative > expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from > 1.56 billion yen. > > -- > > Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great after > all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. > > Tom C. > > > That could explain the recent flood of Pentax refurbs that I've seen here in Canada. They're going cheap too. Lots of low-end MZ's, FA-J lenses, and a few DS's and DL's. If you write down inventory, you aren't talking about 'Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much.', you're talking about excess stock. It sounds like Pentax wrote down a fair bit of older stuff they were sitting on (like the aforementioned cheap film kit) which impacted their net income. Otherwise the numbers look good, especially the operating profit increase. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
1st class. Great light, good little moment, like choreography. -- Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi > Sent: 29 October 2007 19:55 > To: DUG; PDML List; PAW; SeePhoto Talk > Subject: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG > > On my way to Sausalito last Friday evening ... > >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm > > Comments, critique, etc. always appreciated. > > enjoy > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Artist on the Steps
I agree. The doors tell us that these are the front steps of a building. Without them, that information is lost. They could be the last few of a hundred steps at a park or a monument. But the knowledge that the artist is sitting on the front steps of a building helps establish a mood. BUT CLONE THE WHITE THING OUT! :-). (Not a bit deal, really. I just felt like shouting.:-)) Paul -- Original message -- From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For me, the area above the stairs completes the scene and anchors the > artist's location. > Nothing more than a very minor nit, but I wouldn't miss that white > thing on the upper right. > > Jack > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/32zo7j > > > > > > > > http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RyXlBAS56DI/A48/ > > > > nTSAGXW91SI/s1600-h/oct_29+001.jpg > > > > > > Very nice, Frank. IMO it would be stronger if cropped to the top > > > stair to remove the distracting bits on top. > > > > Agreed. Cropping out the top would make this photo spectacular. > > It's still > > really good on its own, though. > > > > John Celio > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and follow the directions. > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Untitled XV [the horror of Barbie]
> > From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/10/29 Mon PM 08:22:16 GMT > To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" > Subject: RE: Untitled XV [the horror of Barbie] > > > > > Didn't mean to be rude here, but as the grandfather of a > > little girl, > > > > I have to say that there's nothing wrong with Barbie. She's just > a > > > > doll. No worse than a cartoon princess. Little girls need > > to dream It > > > > doesn't ruin them. End of social commentary rant. > > > > > > > > > One of my co-workers told me she's glad she has a son, instead of > a > > > daughter, 'cause "GI Joe ain't gotta have a dream house to > > sleep in!" > > > > If I may take the liberty of quoting Jostein: "Beware pink". > > A sentiment I wholeheartedly agree with. > > > > are you sure you heard that right, and he wasn't asking you to wear > pink...? > > -- I _have_ heard that it gets very lonely up there during the winter. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Yosemite Reflection #1
Your endearing patience will always pay off. :) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 10/29/2007 10:57:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Replace the sky!! > > > Well, I suppose I could, though it would take some doing. > > Okay, gang in a week or two I'll show it again, redone. I'll get a > decent > photo out of it yet. > > Heh. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > - > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > ** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Inventory Writedown
Paraphrased from a 10/29 Bloomberg article: Pentax Corp., said first-half profit fell 45 percent, missing its own estimate, after writing down the value of its inventory. Net income declined to 600 million yen ($5.3 million) in the six months ended Sept. 30, lagging behind its July forecast of 1.4 billion yen. Sales at the company, which also makes medical equipment rose 15 percent. "We have depreciated our inventory, including endoscopes, as we had difficulty competing with our rivals,'' mainly in North America, Jiro Okamura, a spokesman at the Tokyo-based company, said by telephone. The writedown led to a one-time loss of about 900 million yen, he said. The company's sales rose to 85.6 billion yen from 74.7 billion yen. Operating profit, or sales minus the cost of goods sold and administrative expenses, more than doubled to 3.3 billion yen from 1.56 billion yen. -- Maybe those bargain basement camera prices in N.A. aren't that great after all. Selling a lot more things that aren't worth as much. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
Interesting scene. Excellent tonality. The car is a bit unfortunate, but by no means a deal breaker. Good one. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On my way to Sausalito last Friday evening ... > >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm > > Comments, critique, etc. always appreciated. > > enjoy > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - The Barmaid
> > > > A buddy once had an Old Peculier in Washington DC. > > He made a face, and said it was flat. > > Everybody else asked "How can you tell? That's not a beer, it's a > > snack!" > > > > Cheers > > Mike > > > > > > > > Did you read the enjoyable beer article in the NYT last week? > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/24/dining/24pour.html?_r=1&oref=slogin > No, and I'm not going to because it wants me to register. The only reason they could want me to register is so that they can send me spam. I don't want them to send me spam, so the New York Times has lost one potential reader who would have been very interested to look at their artice, and would also have seen their advertising. So that's a lose-lose-lose situation. Cretins. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Few Nov PUG Comments
-- Original message -- From: Thrainn Vigfusson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sheep would of course never climb a glacier on their > own, since there is nothing to eat. > That would probably stop me as well :-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Ok to post PESO theme idea?
I have an idea for a fun PESO theme (for anyone who is interested), but I'm unsure if such a thing is allowed. It does not conflict with current PUG themes, as far as I can tell. The point for anyone who wants to participate would be to post an image they've already taken that fits the theme. It's the same concept as a PUG theme, but on the list instead of the PUG site. So, is that okay, or not allowed outside of the PUG? John Celio P.S.: The theme I had in mind is related to halloween, so I was hoping to start the thread tonight if possible. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Artist on the Steps
In a message dated 10/29/2007 1:18:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me, the area above the stairs completes the scene and anchors the artist's location. Nothing more than a very minor nit, but I wouldn't miss that white thing on the upper right. Jack == Ditto, what he said, frank. I thought about it when first looking at it that it could be cropped tighter, but the space above does anchor it. I also think losing the white trash can would improve it too, though. Later, Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW 2007 - 45 - GDG
Actually, the car could be cloned out. Constructing the back of the shoe would take a bit of work, but the rest of it is a cakewalk. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In a message dated 10/29/2007 1:02:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On my way to Sausalito last Friday evening ... > > http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/45.htm > > Comments, critique, etc. always appreciated. > > enjoy > Godfrey > > = > That's a very odd shot, Godfrey. Surreal. That girl standing dead center. > The only thing I don't like is the woman with the ear phones being slightly > obscured by the walking man. But a minor nit pick. Too bad you can't clone > the > car hood out. Something very disconcerting about the whole thing. > > Excellent. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > - > Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. > > > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
