Re: PESO: Thanksgiving Foliage 3

2007-11-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/11/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

The iron bats really break up the leave pattern.

Indeed. It's a new departure.

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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely dog(s)

She looks happy already.:-)

Dave

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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread David Savage
They are a very handsome breed.

Congrats on the addition.

Cheers,

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PESO: South Mole Lighthouse #6

2007-11-25 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Another shot of one of my favourite subjects/locations:

Small (800x536, ~90kb)
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg

Large (1195x800, ~190kb)
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_lrg.jpg

K10D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 17mm, 30 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 100

Any and all comments welcome.

Cheers,

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2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210306/Large

The first being pretty much what I had expected to see,
The second was certainly out of season




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Re: PESO: South Mole Lighthouse #6

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Almost has a painting feel to it.

nicely done

Dave

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 G'day All,

 Another shot of one of my favourite subjects/locations:

 Small (800x536, ~90kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg

 Large (1195x800, ~190kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_lrg.jpg

 K10D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 17mm, 30 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 100

 Any and all comments welcome.

 Cheers,

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Re: 2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Good lighting and composition on both Ann. I'm partial to number 1.

Dave

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 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large

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Re: PESO: South Mole Lighthouse #6

2007-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
Like it David. You hit the exposure dead on for a dramatic uniquely
toned effect.

Jack 
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 G'day All,
 
 Another shot of one of my favourite subjects/locations:
 
 Small (800x536, ~90kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg
 
 Large (1195x800, ~190kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_lrg.jpg
 
 K10D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 17mm, 30 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 100
 
 Any and all comments welcome.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: PESO: South Mole Lighthouse #6

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wow! Beautiful color. Nice composition. I like the foreground  
diagonal and the placement of the lighthouse. Excellent work.
Paul
On Nov 25, 2007, at 8:26 AM, David Savage wrote:

 G'day All,

 Another shot of one of my favourite subjects/locations:

 Small (800x536, ~90kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg

 Large (1195x800, ~190kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_lrg.jpg

 K10D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 17mm, 30 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 100

 Any and all comments welcome.

 Cheers,

 Dave

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Re: 2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the first one the most. The rich color of the fallen leaves is  
very pleasing.
Paul
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 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210306/Large

 The first being pretty much what I had expected to see,
 The second was certainly out of season




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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan
Subject: Re: Geso: An addition to the family


 Great looking dogs Bill.
 Makes me want one...
 Regards,  Bob S.


I can probably arrange for delivery of the gray one if you are 
serious...

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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Handsome folks. Dogs is good people. :-)

Two Belgians and a Rotie? That's a lot of dog to deal with. Good luck!

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PESO: Yaquina Light

2007-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
Been idling around long enough, so am putting up a several year old
film shot of Oregon's Yakuina Head Light. Someone else posted an image
of this light awhile back, but from a more dramatic perspective.
Just to put a toe back in the game.

Thanks for any comments.

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Re: PESO: South Mole Lighthouse #6

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Quite nice overall, although I would prefer to correct the  
rectilinears...  :-)

G

On Nov 25, 2007, at 5:26 AM, David Savage wrote:

 Another shot of one of my favourite subjects/locations:

 Small (800x536, ~90kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg

 Large (1195x800, ~190kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_lrg.jpg

 K10D, DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 17mm, 30 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 100


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Re: 2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Thanks Paul and Dave -
yeah - the first one is much better as a photo in itself  for sure

I may or may not have a better shot of the forsythia, which I mainly put 
up to show the
oddness of it's appearance on the scene.  Just a few days of too warm 
weather here (about an hour north of NY)
made it think it was April.  This particular forsythia was by a stream 
and I had little opportunity to
change angle, adjust lighting, etc... so it is more of an information 
shot.  But it was the only forsythia in the
area to bloom yellow - the others around taylor road were more 
exposed... this was sheltered.

ann


Paul Stenquist wrote:

I like the first one the most. The rich color of the fallen leaves is  
very pleasing.
Paul
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http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210306/Large

The first being pretty much what I had expected to see,
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Geso Photos from the recent snow fall.

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Hi troops.

Wednesday we had some snow in the area. I really get a kick out of how
the news stations play up 1-2 cm of snow these days.
I know when we worked up north, unless they were calling for over a
foot, nothing was ever mentioned, as its always snowing up there.

Small snowfall and well over 1000 accidents in the GTA.

Slow doen folks.:-0

http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/WinterScencic

Taken around town Thursday.

K10D, 77 LTD and minor tweaks in LR and exported as jpgs to the email file

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Re: PESO: South Mole Lighthouse #6

2007-11-25 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote:

 Small (800x536, ~90kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg
 
 Large (1195x800, ~190kb)
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_lrg.jpg

I'm just going to add a me, too to say that's a beautiful shot, very 
well executed.  It probably helps that lighthouses are one of my 
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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread Doug Franklin

 I seem to being turned towards the dark side
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/chyna/chyna1.html

That puppy isn't very people-friendly, is she? :-)

Good looking hound.  I'll have to consider Turvurens if I ever get a 
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Re: 2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread Doug Franklin
ann sanfedele wrote:
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210306/Large
 
 The first being pretty much what I had expected to see,
 The second was certainly out of season

Hmmm. The first one doesn't do all that much for me, but I like the 
second one.  I think the almost continuous sequence of tones from 
yellow-brown through green spread across the frame helps tie things 
together.  I think my issue with the first one is that my eye doesn't 
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Re: PESO: Yaquina Light

2007-11-25 Thread Doug Franklin
Jack Davis wrote:
 Been idling around long enough, so am putting up a several year old
 film shot of Oregon's Yakuina Head Light.

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=261

Nice shot, Jack, though I think it might profit by tightening it up a 
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OT Argggggggg

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Did a bunch of software updates on the ibook last night.

Now i find my gmail has lost all of its email address in memory. I
used to just hit the first letter and a list would come up, now
nothing.

Argg

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Re: PESO: Yaquina Light

2007-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Doug! A bit of top crop certainly wouldn't hurt. I sort of like
he inclusion of the bird concentration on the left, even though of
marginal impact.

Jack
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 Jack Davis wrote:
  Been idling around long enough, so am putting up a several year old
  film shot of Oregon's Yakuina Head Light.
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=261
 
 Nice shot, Jack, though I think it might profit by tightening it up a
 
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Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Axel Belinfante
so far I only contributed some text to this list;
thought it could be nice to show some pics,
even though I must say that the photos
I have seen on this list are pretty humbling... :-)

I decided to not be bothered by that :-)
and collect a few shots of last half year
since I got digitally enabled and re-started
shooting just for the fun of it, instead of
only snap-shooting for the family album.
(ok, this oversimplifies but you get the picture)


some shots could probably benefit of some cropping;
these are straight from the cameras.
my digital enablement has not (yet?)
extended to digital darkrooming.

http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General

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Kenko out with an K mount camera (cheap OEM but still)

2007-11-25 Thread Thibouille
http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/430965.html

Seems Nikon and Contax/Yashica version available too ...

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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
Welcome, Axel.  You've posted some nice work here. Be confident that
you'll have no trouble fitting in with this group photographically.

Jack
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 so far I only contributed some text to this list;
 thought it could be nice to show some pics,
 even though I must say that the photos
 I have seen on this list are pretty humbling... :-)
 
 I decided to not be bothered by that :-)
 and collect a few shots of last half year
 since I got digitally enabled and re-started
 shooting just for the fun of it, instead of
 only snap-shooting for the family album.
 (ok, this oversimplifies but you get the picture)
 
 
 some shots could probably benefit of some cropping;
 these are straight from the cameras.
 my digital enablement has not (yet?)
 extended to digital darkrooming.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General
 
 Axel.
 
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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/07, Axel Belinfante, discombobulated, unleashed:

some shots could probably benefit of some cropping;
these are straight from the cameras.


This is exceptionally good

http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5136363574982092466

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Re: Kenko out with an K mount camera (cheap OEM but still)

2007-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
I love the Google language translation

*Virile black body PENTAX K lens mount compatible machine*


Thibouille wrote:
 http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/430965.html

 Seems Nikon and Contax/Yashica version available too ...

   


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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread George Sinos
Hi Axel -

There are some pretty interesting shots in that group.  Keep shooting
and keep posting.

GS
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On Nov 25, 2007 11:04 AM, Axel Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 so far I only contributed some text to this list;
 thought it could be nice to show some pics,
 even though I must say that the photos
 I have seen on this list are pretty humbling... :-)

 I decided to not be bothered by that :-)
 and collect a few shots of last half year
 since I got digitally enabled and re-started
 shooting just for the fun of it, instead of
 only snap-shooting for the family album.
 (ok, this oversimplifies but you get the picture)


 some shots could probably benefit of some cropping;
 these are straight from the cameras.
 my digital enablement has not (yet?)
 extended to digital darkrooming.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General

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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
Axel, welcome!  There are some really nice shots
there.  I especially like the second bubble pic, and
the bee.  When you get around to some modest
processing you'll have lots of lovely stuff.

Rick

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 so far I only contributed some text to this list;
 thought it could be nice to show some pics,
 even though I must say that the photos
 I have seen on this list are pretty humbling... :-)
 
 I decided to not be bothered by that :-)
 and collect a few shots of last half year
 since I got digitally enabled and re-started
 shooting just for the fun of it, instead of
 only snap-shooting for the family album.
 (ok, this oversimplifies but you get the picture)
 
 
 some shots could probably benefit of some cropping;
 these are straight from the cameras.
 my digital enablement has not (yet?)
 extended to digital darkrooming.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General
 
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Re: Geso Photos from the recent snow fall.

2007-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
These are lovely, Dave!  The barn shot is a real
classic, with the geese really adding a lot.

Rick

--- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi troops.
 
 Wednesday we had some snow in the area. I really get
 a kick out of how
 the news stations play up 1-2 cm of snow these days.
 I know when we worked up north, unless they were
 calling for over a
 foot, nothing was ever mentioned, as its always
 snowing up there.
 
 Small snowfall and well over 1000 accidents in the
 GTA.
 
 Slow doen folks.:-0
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/WinterScencic
 
 Taken around town Thursday.
 
 K10D, 77 LTD and minor tweaks in LR and exported as
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Re: PESO: Yaquina Light

2007-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
A slight tightening would be good; it also seems to
have a magenta cast.  Really nice shot, though.

Rick

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 Jack Davis wrote:
  Been idling around long enough, so am putting up a
 several year old
  film shot of Oregon's Yakuina Head Light.
 
 

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=261
 
 Nice shot, Jack, though I think it might profit by
 tightening it up a 
 little on the top and a little more on the left.
 
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Re: PESO: Thanksgiving Foliage 3

2007-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dave.  That's what attracted me, too.  There
are lots of iron fences in the neighborhood, and I
would be embarrassed to say how many pix I've taken of
them; but I think this is the first I have posted.

Rick


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 I like this one Rick. The iron bats really break up
 the leave pattern.
 
 Dave
 
 On 11/24/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Zipping from coast to coast...
 
  A colorful collection of leaves against a
 neighbor's
  fence:
 
 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6673214size=lg
 
  K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 200, f/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/180, RAW via LR.
 
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Re: PESO: South Mole Lighthouse #6

2007-11-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/25/2007 5:36:31 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
G'day All,

Another  shot of one of my favourite subjects/locations:

Small (800x536,  ~90kb)
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_sml.jpg

Large  (1195x800,  ~190kb)
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP9486_lrg.jpg

K10D,  DA 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FE @ 17mm, 30 seconds @ f4.5, ISO 100

Any and all  comments welcome.

Cheers,

Dave

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Very nice! Has  a sort of surreal look about it, the painting on the tower 
and the sky  combined.

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K10D mirror/shutter issues

2007-11-25 Thread Brendan MacRae
Last night while shooting some products with the K10 I
had the camera freeze up on me. Fully charged
batteries and the camera in manual mode with the pop
flash as a controler for two 540's. I went to fire the
camera and the mirror went up and that was it. The
mirror stayed up and the camera froze. It appeared
(and sounded) as though the shutter never opened. None
of the controls responded including the on/off switch.
I had to remove the battery in order to unfreeze it.
This happened twice.

Anybody else have this issue? I've got nearly 7000
cycles on this shutter. Seems ok this morning and it
was ok for the last part of the shoot last night.

Wouldn't you know it, but the warranty expires this
month.

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Re: PESO: Yaquina Light

2007-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
I realize it has a magenta cast and, strangely, due to that (explained
the buyer) I sold a 13x20. The only 'tightening' I might consider would
be to take a little off the top, as suggested by Doug. 
I relate to this as a compromise shot that's looking for an excuse for
being..so to speak. :-)

Thanks for commenting, Rick.

Jack
--- Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A slight tightening would be good; it also seems to
 have a magenta cast.  Really nice shot, though.
 
 Rick
 
 --- Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Jack Davis wrote:
   Been idling around long enough, so am putting up a
  several year old
   film shot of Oregon's Yakuina Head Light.
  
  
 
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=261
  
  Nice shot, Jack, though I think it might profit by
  tightening it up a 
  little on the top and a little more on the left.
  
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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/25/2007 9:52:38 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Axel, welcome!   There are some really nice shots
there.  I especially like the second  bubble pic, and
the bee.  When you get around to some  modest
processing you'll have lots of lovely  stuff.

Rick


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Re: 2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/25/2007 5:49:00 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210306/Large

The  first being pretty much what I had expected to see,
The second was certainly  out of season


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Re: K10D mirror/shutter issues

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I seem to recall you had other issues with this K10D prior to this... ?

I would recommend calling Pentax service and have it in for a  
checkup, immediately.

Godfrey


On Nov 25, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

 Last night while shooting some products with the K10 I
 had the camera freeze up on me. Fully charged
 batteries and the camera in manual mode with the pop
 flash as a controler for two 540's. I went to fire the
 camera and the mirror went up and that was it. The
 mirror stayed up and the camera froze. It appeared
 (and sounded) as though the shutter never opened. None
 of the controls responded including the on/off switch.
 I had to remove the battery in order to unfreeze it.
 This happened twice.

 Anybody else have this issue? I've got nearly 7000
 cycles on this shutter. Seems ok this morning and it
 was ok for the last part of the shoot last night.

 Wouldn't you know it, but the warranty expires this
 month.

 -Brendan

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Re: 2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Nov 25, 2007, at 5:42 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large

I like this, a nice composition and good tones, colors, etc.

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210306/Large

This seems rather too busy.

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Re: PESO: Yaquina Light

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
A pleasant scene. You might try cropping out a large measure of sky.
Paul
On Nov 25, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Been idling around long enough, so am putting up a several year old
 film shot of Oregon's Yakuina Head Light. Someone else posted an image
 of this light awhile back, but from a more dramatic perspective.
 Just to put a toe back in the game.

 Thanks for any comments.

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Re: K10D mirror/shutter issues

2007-11-25 Thread Brendan MacRae
Probably the smart play.

Actually, this is the first real issue I've
encountered so far.

I should get it checked out.

-Brendan
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I seem to recall you had other issues with this K10D
 prior to this... ?
 
 I would recommend calling Pentax service and have it
 in for a  
 checkup, immediately.
 
 Godfrey
 
 
 On Nov 25, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
  Last night while shooting some products with the
 K10 I
  had the camera freeze up on me. Fully charged
  batteries and the camera in manual mode with the
 pop
  flash as a controler for two 540's. I went to fire
 the
  camera and the mirror went up and that was it. The
  mirror stayed up and the camera froze. It appeared
  (and sounded) as though the shutter never opened.
 None
  of the controls responded including the on/off
 switch.
  I had to remove the battery in order to unfreeze
 it.
  This happened twice.
 
  Anybody else have this issue? I've got nearly 7000
  cycles on this shutter. Seems ok this morning and
 it
  was ok for the last part of the shoot last night.
 
  Wouldn't you know it, but the warranty expires
 this
  month.
 
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Re: PESO: Yaquina Light

2007-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Paul. Seems to be a popular suggestion. 
If I were to crop the top, I'd still leave a generous amount of sky
above the light. A little too close and the effect tends to be one of
pinching off the scene at such a point.

Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A pleasant scene. You might try cropping out a large measure of sky.
 Paul
 On Nov 25, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
 
  Been idling around long enough, so am putting up a several year old
  film shot of Oregon's Yakuina Head Light. Someone else posted an
 image
  of this light awhile back, but from a more dramatic perspective.
  Just to put a toe back in the game.
 
  Thanks for any comments.
 
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Re: K10D mirror/shutter issues

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've had that happen once or twice, although I believe the batteries  
were low. It seems to be something akin to a computer crash. Had it  
happen with the D as well. But again, it was with low batteries.
Paul
On Nov 25, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:

 Probably the smart play.

 Actually, this is the first real issue I've
 encountered so far.

 I should get it checked out.

 -Brendan
 --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I seem to recall you had other issues with this K10D
 prior to this... ?

 I would recommend calling Pentax service and have it
 in for a
 checkup, immediately.

 Godfrey


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 Last night while shooting some products with the
 K10 I
 had the camera freeze up on me. Fully charged
 batteries and the camera in manual mode with the
 pop
 flash as a controler for two 540's. I went to fire
 the
 camera and the mirror went up and that was it. The
 mirror stayed up and the camera froze. It appeared
 (and sounded) as though the shutter never opened.
 None
 of the controls responded including the on/off
 switch.
 I had to remove the battery in order to unfreeze
 it.
 This happened twice.

 Anybody else have this issue? I've got nearly 7000
 cycles on this shutter. Seems ok this morning and
 it
 was ok for the last part of the shoot last night.

 Wouldn't you know it, but the warranty expires
 this
 month.

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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Axel Belinfante
thanks for the kind words, also to the others that responded.

I kind of hate myself for overlooking/forgetting about
the 1600 iso setting there - at iso 100 the reflection
in the bubble likely would have contained much more detail.

oh well. lesson (hopefully :-) learned...

thanks again, to all,
Axel.

 Axel, welcome!  There are some really nice shots
 there.  I especially like the second bubble pic, and
 the bee.  When you get around to some modest
 processing you'll have lots of lovely stuff.
 
 Rick
 
 --- Axel Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  so far I only contributed some text to this list;
  thought it could be nice to show some pics,
  even though I must say that the photos
  I have seen on this list are pretty humbling... :-)
  
  I decided to not be bothered by that :-)
  and collect a few shots of last half year
  since I got digitally enabled and re-started
  shooting just for the fun of it, instead of
  only snap-shooting for the family album.
  (ok, this oversimplifies but you get the picture)
  
  
  some shots could probably benefit of some cropping;
  these are straight from the cameras.
  my digital enablement has not (yet?)
  extended to digital darkrooming.
  
  http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General
  
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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Inner Focus
The soap bubbles and the following one:

http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5136169219122013602

are really nice. On the other hand, on this one:

http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5136358678719374946

you can see K10D's poor sharpening algorithms (the black contour around the 
bug).

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Re: Sigma HSM lenses for Pentax KAF mount

2007-11-25 Thread Inner Focus
Yes, interesting posts by the engineer who started that thread. The conclusion 
is that ultrasonic motors CAN be faster, it's just that Pentax have chosen a 
poor implementation (SDM) which doesn't make full use of the technology, and 
thus it's results are far from optimal (they should have chosen a ring-type 
motor instead of a micromotor).

A. M.

- Original Message 
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 Bill wrote:
 
 OK, I also have a question: what's the advantage of ultrasonic
 motors?
 
 
 I'm interested in AF speed, since I've had a lot of trouble with my 
 camera and it's kit lens (annoying AF hunting or even impossible AF in 
 not-so-low :( light).
 
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Light or heavy camera to diminish shake?

2007-11-25 Thread Inner Focus
I've heard people claiming that a large, heavy camera may be better at 
controlling blur caused by handshake, since a light one is too easy to move. Is 
this true or complete nonsense? (A heavy camera should require more effort, 
therefore it should cause muscle fatigue and shake - at least naively, that's 
how things look.) When do you feel that you control handshake better: with the 
K10D or with the DS / K100D? (I'm mostly interested in low-light photography, 
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Re: Light or heavy camera to diminish shake?

2007-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
It's simple physics, all things being equal, it's harder to impart 
movement to a larger mass.  However too heavy a camera will cause 
fatigue which will cause the photographer to be more prone to shake, 
(among other things).  Its a balancing act that depends on the 
photographer and his equipment.

Inner Focus wrote:
 I've heard people claiming that a large, heavy camera may be better at 
 controlling blur caused by handshake, since a light one is too easy to move. 
 Is this true or complete nonsense? (A heavy camera should require more 
 effort, therefore it should cause muscle fatigue and shake - at least 
 naively, that's how things look.) When do you feel that you control handshake 
 better: with the K10D or with the DS / K100D? (I'm mostly interested in 
 low-light photography, that's why I'm asking.)

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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Axel Belinfante
 The soap bubbles and the following one:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5136169219122013602
 are really nice.

small pool of water pic was taken with the optio w30
(had never realized how much fun it can be to just
 have a camera in your pocket for when you 'see' a shot -
 walking the dog may take 'slightly' longer as a result, though :-)

 On the other hand, on this one:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5136358678719374946
 you can see K10D's poor sharpening algorithms
 (the black contour around the bug).

I'm not sure I see what you mean, although, looking better, I think I do.

I also do notice a lot of black contour at the right side of the plant.
some of it maybe was already there, but it may have been exaggerated
by the scaling during the import, I think.  at least, in the original
I do not notice it as much as in the web album version.
it was automagically scaled by picasa iphoto export plugin.
I shoot RAW+ and for the selection I sometimes exported the jpg
and sometimes the raw, depending on what seemed to look better.
I think this is indeed the jpg, think raws got _2 in the file name.
I probably should have scaled (and cropped) myself before the export.
(I'm learning :-)
(think I also should calibrate my (quite recent) iMac monitor)

Looking at the bug pic at this level of detail I now also see the
purple fringing (I guess that it is), in the almost white
flowery thing that points to the right and up.
in the web galary it is maybe less visible; in the original it is.

anyway, in all the bug shots focus is almost where I want it
(on the eyes), but always slightly off.
or maybe dof is just too shallow.
there just seems not enough detail for the blowup I would like.

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Re: Kenko out with an K mount camera (cheap OEM but still)

2007-11-25 Thread Bong Manayon
Is that a Cosina?  Or is Kenko trying to do a Cosina?


On Nov 26, 2007 1:22 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I love the Google language translation

 *Virile black body PENTAX K lens mount compatible machine*


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Re: Light or heavy camera to diminish shake?

2007-11-25 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Inner Focus
Subject: Light or heavy camera to diminish shake?


 I've heard people claiming that a large, heavy camera may be better at 
 controlling blur caused by handshake, since a light one is too easy to 
 move. Is this true or complete nonsense? (A heavy camera should require 
 more effort, therefore it should cause muscle fatigue and shake - at least 
 naively, that's how things look.) When do you feel that you control 
 handshake better: with the K10D or with the DS / K100D? (I'm mostly 
 interested in low-light photography, that's why I'm asking.)

True, a heavy camera is easier to hand hold steadily. If you keep a camera 
at face level all the time, you might want to consider rethinking your 
habits if you are using truly heavy equipment, which Pentax 35mm body style 
based cameras are not.
I can handhold a Pentax 6x7 at slower speeds than 35mm/non SR assisted 
digital.

This was shot handheld with a Tamron 500/f8 mirror lens.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/500f8andbethere.html
ISO1600, 1/640 second according to the file data.
The camera used was a K10 with the accessory grip, and shake reduction 
turned on.
I don't think it is as sharp as it could be, had I used a tripod.
I am quite pleased with the way Pentax has implemented in body shake 
reduction

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Re: Sigma HSM lenses for Pentax KAF mount

2007-11-25 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Inner Focus
Subject: Re: Sigma HSM lenses for Pentax KAF mount


 Yes, interesting posts by the engineer who started that thread. The 
 conclusion is that ultrasonic motors CAN be faster, it's just that Pentax 
 have chosen a poor implementation (SDM) which doesn't make full use of the 
 technology, and thus it's results are far from optimal (they should have 
 chosen a ring-type motor instead of a micromotor).


As far as I can ascertain, USM and SWM motors cannot be used in lenses with 
both in-lens and in-body drive systems, that's why Pentax uses the small 
ultrasonic motor similar to the competitions Micro-USM motors.

Whether this is poor implementation from a couple of decades ago or not is 
the question. Unfortunately, twenty five years ago when auto focus 
technology was being developed, Pentax was floating rather aimlessly in the 
marketplace, and was giving the general impression of not having an RD 
department.

Anyway, what you were describing as a problem can be mostly fixed by turfing 
the cheap and slow lenses and buying better ones. I mostly use prime lenses, 
and really don't experience many problems with AF, with the major exception 
of when my dogs are running more or less straight at me.
Pentax AF is pretty much on par with the AF from cameras in the same price 
league from the other manufacturers.

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Re: Light or heavy camera to diminish shake?

2007-11-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/11/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's simple physics, all things being equal, it's harder to impart 
movement to a larger mass.  However too heavy a camera will cause 
fatigue which will cause the photographer to be more prone to shake, 
(among other things).  Its a balancing act that depends on the 
photographer and his equipment.

Unless you've got IS in that heavy lens ;-)

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Re: Geso Photos from the recent snow fall.

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Rick.

I have shot that barn and pond before, but each year something seems
to attract me back.

Dave

On Nov 25, 2007 12:55 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 These are lovely, Dave!  The barn shot is a real
 classic, with the geese really adding a lot.

 Rick


 --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi troops.
 
  Wednesday we had some snow in the area. I really get
  a kick out of how
  the news stations play up 1-2 cm of snow these days.
  I know when we worked up north, unless they were
  calling for over a
  foot, nothing was ever mentioned, as its always
  snowing up there.
 
  Small snowfall and well over 1000 accidents in the
  GTA.
 
  Slow doen folks.:-0
 
  http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/WinterScencic
 
  Taken around town Thursday.
 
  K10D, 77 LTD and minor tweaks in LR and exported as
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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele
William Robb wrote:

I seem to being turned towards the dark side
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/chyna/chyna1.html

William Robb

  

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PESO: Yaquina Head Light II

2007-11-25 Thread Jack Davis
Top cropped by popular demand.

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Re: Geso: introduction pics

2007-11-25 Thread Inner Focus
- Original Message 
 From: Axel Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:31:40 PM
 Subject: Re: Geso: introduction pics

[...]

 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/axelpics/General/photo#5136358678719374946
  you can see K10D's poor sharpening algorithms
  (the black contour around the bug).
 
 I'm not sure I see what you mean, although, looking better, I think
 I
 
 do.
 
 I also do notice a lot of black contour at the right side of the plant.

Exactly, that's what I'm talking about.

 some of it maybe was already there, but it may have been exaggerated
 by the scaling during the import, I think.  at least, in the original
 I do not notice it as much as in the web album version.
 it was automagically scaled by picasa iphoto export plugin.
 I shoot RAW+ and for the selection I sometimes exported the jpg
 and sometimes the raw, depending on what seemed to look better.
 I think this is indeed the jpg, think raws got _2 in the file name.


I remember having read somewhere (I think it was a Pentax camera review on 
DPReview) that this is the technique that Pentax engineers have chosen for 
enhancing sharpness: adding a black contour around edges. Maybe you'd like to 
check your sharpness settings for the in-camera Jpeg conversion?


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Re: Geso Photos from the recent snow fall.

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Dave _ I agree with Rick on this.. thats definitely my fave of them 
 although the gravestones are really strong -
I'd rather look at barns :)

my eyes are really going -- I didn't know those geese were geese... 
 just saw them as dark forms...
couldn't see a way to enlarge the photo but did recognize them as birds 
when I went back to look again.

ann

Rick Womer wrote:

These are lovely, Dave!  The barn shot is a real
classic, with the geese really adding a lot.

Rick

--- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Hi troops.

Wednesday we had some snow in the area. I really get
a kick out of how
the news stations play up 1-2 cm of snow these days.
I know when we worked up north, unless they were
calling for over a
foot, nothing was ever mentioned, as its always
snowing up there.

Small snowfall and well over 1000 accidents in the
GTA.

Slow doen folks.:-0

http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/WinterScencic

Taken around town Thursday.

K10D, 77 LTD and minor tweaks in LR and exported as
jpgs to the email file

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Re: Tele's

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Ok, i took the 300 and the tele out today for another test. Its bright
and sunny aswell.

It worked great, at first, everything looked nicley focused.

There is a *tiny* amount of play withthe tele on the camera, there was
aswell on the istD IIRC. After i wiggled the tele back and forth, i
started to get that OOF in the finder. It gets very close, but it
looks like a soft fiulter is placed ovber the lens. Not sharp but just
OOF enough to notice.

Does this in AF and MF modes.

Does this sound like a contac issue. I know the Sigma compatability
page says its a MF telel only on the 300 F4, but ist af'd fine until
now.

I just realized i did not try the istD, only the K10 and PZ-1.

I'll try the istD Monday.

Any more comments.

Dave

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 John Whittingham wrote:
  The documentation I have with both converters states AF with 1.4x and MF 
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Re: Light or heavy camera to diminish shake?

2007-11-25 Thread P. J. Alling
IS is cheating...

Cotty wrote:
 On 25/11/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

   
 It's simple physics, all things being equal, it's harder to impart 
 movement to a larger mass.  However too heavy a camera will cause 
 fatigue which will cause the photographer to be more prone to shake, 
 (among other things).  Its a balancing act that depends on the 
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Re: Geso Photos from the recent snow fall.

2007-11-25 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Ann.

This is the first time i have ever seen any geese on the pond. It is
actually the back end of a golf course, they may have a summer program
to keep them off.

Dave

On Nov 25, 2007 6:27 PM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave _ I agree with Rick on this.. thats definitely my fave of them
  although the gravestones are really strong -
 I'd rather look at barns :)

 my eyes are really going -- I didn't know those geese were geese...
  just saw them as dark forms...
 couldn't see a way to enlarge the photo but did recognize them as birds
 when I went back to look again.

 ann


 Rick Womer wrote:

 These are lovely, Dave!  The barn shot is a real
 classic, with the geese really adding a lot.
 
 Rick
 
 --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi troops.
 
 Wednesday we had some snow in the area. I really get
 a kick out of how
 the news stations play up 1-2 cm of snow these days.
 I know when we worked up north, unless they were
 calling for over a
 foot, nothing was ever mentioned, as its always
 snowing up there.
 
 Small snowfall and well over 1000 accidents in the
 GTA.
 
 Slow doen folks.:-0
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/WinterScencic
 
 Taken around town Thursday.
 
 K10D, 77 LTD and minor tweaks in LR and exported as
 jpgs to the email file
 
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Re: K10D mirror/shutter issues

2007-11-25 Thread Brendan MacRae
Wow, that is interesting. I had just charged both
batteries.

Well, it hasn't failed since. I'll keep an eye on it.
I just shot a Christmas card (5 minutes ago) for my
sis-in-law and it worked flawlessly.

scratching head

-Brendan
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've had that happen once or twice, although I
 believe the batteries  
 were low. It seems to be something akin to a
 computer crash. Had it  
 happen with the D as well. But again, it was with
 low batteries.
 Paul
 On Nov 25, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
 
  Probably the smart play.
 
  Actually, this is the first real issue I've
  encountered so far.
 
  I should get it checked out.
 
  -Brendan
  --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I seem to recall you had other issues with this
 K10D
  prior to this... ?
 
  I would recommend calling Pentax service and have
 it
  in for a
  checkup, immediately.
 
  Godfrey
 
 
  On Nov 25, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Brendan MacRae
 wrote:
 
  Last night while shooting some products with the
  K10 I
  had the camera freeze up on me. Fully charged
  batteries and the camera in manual mode with the
  pop
  flash as a controler for two 540's. I went to
 fire
  the
  camera and the mirror went up and that was it.
 The
  mirror stayed up and the camera froze. It
 appeared
  (and sounded) as though the shutter never
 opened.
  None
  of the controls responded including the on/off
  switch.
  I had to remove the battery in order to unfreeze
  it.
  This happened twice.
 
  Anybody else have this issue? I've got nearly
 7000
  cycles on this shutter. Seems ok this morning
 and
  it
  was ok for the last part of the shoot last
 night.
 
  Wouldn't you know it, but the warranty expires
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Re: Geso Photos from the recent snow fall.

2007-11-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave,
It's a classic shot, why not return to it.
Regards, Bob S.

On Nov 25, 2007 5:19 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Rick.

 I have shot that barn and pond before, but each year something seems
 to attract me back.

 Dave

 On Nov 25, 2007 12:55 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  These are lovely, Dave!  The barn shot is a real
  classic, with the geese really adding a lot.
 
  Rick
 
 
  --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hi troops.
  
   Wednesday we had some snow in the area. I really get
   a kick out of how
   the news stations play up 1-2 cm of snow these days.
   I know when we worked up north, unless they were
   calling for over a
   foot, nothing was ever mentioned, as its always
   snowing up there.
  
   Small snowfall and well over 1000 accidents in the
   GTA.
  
   Slow doen folks.:-0
  
   http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/WinterScencic
  
   Taken around town Thursday.
  
   K10D, 77 LTD and minor tweaks in LR and exported as
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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Re: Geso: An addition to the family





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Re: K10D mirror/shutter issues

2007-11-25 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Brendan MacRae
Subject: Re: K10D mirror/shutter issues


 Wow, that is interesting. I had just charged both
 batteries.


Mark your batteries in case you have a bad one. If the problem repeats, mark 
which battery was in use at the time.

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PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Back to Baylands today to eat
my lunch by the water.
Gulls flocked to wait for crumbs.
Steel gray sky on water.
They got nothing.
Made a few photos.

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Godfrey,
Don't care much for the out of focus ones...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Nov 25, 2007 6:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Back to Baylands today to eat
 my lunch by the water.
 Gulls flocked to wait for crumbs.
 Steel gray sky on water.
 They got nothing.
 Made a few photos.

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thank you for your comment.

Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

G

On Nov 25, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Godfrey,
 Don't care much for the out of focus ones...
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Nov 25, 2007 6:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm


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Re: OT Argggggggg

2007-11-25 Thread David Savage
At 01:54 AM 26/11/2007, David J Brooks
  wrote:
Did a bunch of software updates on the ibook last night.

Now i find my gmail has lost all of its email address in memory. I
used to just hit the first letter and a list would come up, now
nothing.


Are you using the web mail interface, or your email application?

Cheers,

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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Rick Womer
Hmm... the blank verse message and the photo indicate
you were feeling a bit low.

Anyway... I like the composition, but the photo would
be a lot stronger if everything were within the DOF. 
The OOF thick stick, in particular, is distracting.

Rick

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 Back to Baylands today to eat
 my lunch by the water.
 Gulls flocked to wait for crumbs.
 Steel gray sky on water.
 They got nothing.
 Made a few photos.
 
   
 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm
 
 Comments and critique always appreciated.
 
 enjoy
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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thank you for your comment.

Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

G
  


Godders - he means the out of focus reed in the background - top right 
 bothered me, too.


I liked your little free verse intro , though

ann

On Nov 25, 2007, at 6:08 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

  

Godfrey,
Don't care much for the out of focus ones...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Nov 25, 2007 6:58 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm

  


  




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Re: Light or heavy camera to diminish shake?

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I can maintain a steady hand better with a heavier camera. But it may  
be an individual thing.
Paul
On Nov 25, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Inner Focus wrote:

 I've heard people claiming that a large, heavy camera may be better  
 at controlling blur caused by handshake, since a light one is too  
 easy to move. Is this true or complete nonsense? (A heavy camera  
 should require more effort, therefore it should cause muscle  
 fatigue and shake - at least naively, that's how things look.) When  
 do you feel that you control handshake better: with the K10D or  
 with the DS / K100D? (I'm mostly interested in low-light  
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Hiking with Grace

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Grace and I went to the nature center today, hoping to shoot some  
wild deer. No deer, but did get a few shots of my dear granddaugther.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6676844

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PESO: Winter Foliage

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
 From this afternoon's hike:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6676858

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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks for the clarification!

It's interesting ... that's three comments on this list preferring  
more DoF. Comments from other lists haven't mentioned it at all.

I photographed this scene both at f/3.5 and at f/11 as it was hard to  
tell in the viewfinder or LCD which one would do what I wanted:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48ba.htm

To my eye, the deeper DoF loses the dimensionality I was after and  
becomes a little too planar. I wished I could have gotten just a  
little bit more blur, a little shallower DoF.

Very interesting what appeals to other eyes... !! :-)

Thanks for all your comments.

best,
Godfrey

On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 Godders - he means the out of focus reed in the background - top right
 bothered me, too.

 I liked your little free verse intro , though

 Thank you for your comment.
 Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

 Don't care much for the out of focus ones...

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm

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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Crovella
The thick, out-of-focus stick is distracting, but bringing it into focus 
doesn't help. It's the thickness of it that makes it seem ungainly among 
the reeds.

Cheers,
Paul

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Thanks for the clarification!
 
 It's interesting ... that's three comments on this list preferring  
 more DoF. Comments from other lists haven't mentioned it at all.
 
 I photographed this scene both at f/3.5 and at f/11 as it was hard to  
 tell in the viewfinder or LCD which one would do what I wanted:
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48ba.htm
 
 To my eye, the deeper DoF loses the dimensionality I was after and  
 becomes a little too planar. I wished I could have gotten just a  
 little bit more blur, a little shallower DoF.
 
 Very interesting what appeals to other eyes... !! :-)
 
 Thanks for all your comments.
 
 best,
 Godfrey
 
 On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
 
 Godders - he means the out of focus reed in the background - top right
 bothered me, too.

 I liked your little free verse intro , though

 Thank you for your comment.
 Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

 Don't care much for the out of focus ones...

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm
 

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Re: 2 pesos: from last weekend in the country

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 11/25/2007 5:49:00 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210340/Large

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225210306/Large

The  first being pretty much what I had expected to see,
The second was certainly  out of season
=
I really like the first one, Ann, nice  colors and composition.
Marnie aka Doe  :-)
  

Thanks ...
I was pretty sure you would like the first one, Marnie :)

Here is a different spin on the forsythia,  I like it better as a photo 
but it doesn't so clearly point to
the forsythia that is so blooming out of season.

It is a heavy crop of another frame.  I think the leaves turning purple 
are sumac - but not sure.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2607384/1/225566458/Large

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Re: Geso: An addition to the family

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele
William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele
Subject: Re: Geso: An addition to the family
  

Love that second shot  - are furs back in for the smart lady?




Yup, but in deference to animal activists, we aren't killing the animals 
first.

William Robb 

  

Har!  I approve - and it is certainly more becoming this way

ann



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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks, Paul.

I liked it because of its thickness and weight ...

But it might be overmuch. You've given me ideas for alternative  
renderings. :-)

Godfrey


On Nov 25, 2007, at 9:15 PM, Paul Crovella wrote:

 The thick, out-of-focus stick is distracting, but bringing it into  
 focus
 doesn't help. It's the thickness of it that makes it seem ungainly  
 among
 the reeds.

 Cheers,
 Paul

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Thanks for the clarification!

 It's interesting ... that's three comments on this list preferring
 more DoF. Comments from other lists haven't mentioned it at all.

 I photographed this scene both at f/3.5 and at f/11 as it was hard to
 tell in the viewfinder or LCD which one would do what I wanted:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48ba.htm

 To my eye, the deeper DoF loses the dimensionality I was after and
 becomes a little too planar. I wished I could have gotten just a
 little bit more blur, a little shallower DoF.

 Very interesting what appeals to other eyes... !! :-)

 Thanks for all your comments.

 best,
 Godfrey

 On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 Godders - he means the out of focus reed in the background - top  
 right
 bothered me, too.

 I liked your little free verse intro , though

 Thank you for your comment.
 Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

 Don't care much for the out of focus ones...

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm


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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thanks for the clarification!

It's interesting ... that's three comments on this list preferring  
more DoF. Comments from other lists haven't mentioned it at all.

They aren't as smart as we are :)

seriously - the darkest thing in the photo is blurry - and it is on the 
right... so it kinda leaps out at you.
if the foreground twigs had been blurry and the large twig sharp it 
perhaps might have worked ...
For me it isn't that you used shallow DOF, but that what was not in 
focus overwhelmed the rest.

And your photos are so much better than this generally... so one want's 
to give you a jolt :)

ann


I photographed this scene both at f/3.5 and at f/11 as it was hard to  
tell in the viewfinder or LCD which one would do what I wanted:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48ba.htm

To my eye, the deeper DoF loses the dimensionality I was after and  
becomes a little too planar. I wished I could have gotten just a  
little bit more blur, a little shallower DoF.

Very interesting what appeals to other eyes... !! :-)

Thanks for all your comments.




best,
Godfrey

On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

  

Godders - he means the out of focus reed in the background - top right
bothered me, too.

I liked your little free verse intro , though



Thank you for your comment.
Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

  

Don't care much for the out of focus ones...



 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm
  


  




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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
I find the thick black stick is too distracting whether OOF or not. 
Tried getting rid of it and cropping a little off the top.  Results are 
here...

http://tinyurl.com/2mdtx3

Removed in 24 hours, sooner if you like.

-p

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Thanks for the clarification!
 
 It's interesting ... that's three comments on this list preferring  
 more DoF. Comments from other lists haven't mentioned it at all.
 
 I photographed this scene both at f/3.5 and at f/11 as it was hard to  
 tell in the viewfinder or LCD which one would do what I wanted:
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48ba.htm
 
 To my eye, the deeper DoF loses the dimensionality I was after and  
 becomes a little too planar. I wished I could have gotten just a  
 little bit more blur, a little shallower DoF.
 
 Very interesting what appeals to other eyes... !! :-)
 
 Thanks for all your comments.
 
 best,
 Godfrey
 
 On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
 
 Godders - he means the out of focus reed in the background - top right
 bothered me, too.

 I liked your little free verse intro , though

 Thank you for your comment.
 Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

 Don't care much for the out of focus ones...

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm
 


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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Based on your and Paul's responses, and studying the photo a bit  
further, what I think works is to soften the intensity of the large  
dark twig by a bit to reduce its weight in the scene. That achieves  
the idea I had in mind.

I've replaced the original with a revision...

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm

Further comments invited, of course.

Thanks for all your comments! :-)

best,
Godfrey


On Nov 25, 2007, at 9:44 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 seriously - the darkest thing in the photo is blurry - and it is on  
 the
 right... so it kinda leaps out at you.
 if the foreground twigs had been blurry and the large twig sharp it
 perhaps might have worked ...
 For me it isn't that you used shallow DOF, but that what was not in
 focus overwhelmed the rest.


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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks for your thoughts.

I tried that mod and am not particularly fond of it, it loses the  
balance that I want. It's an elusive balance that I'm looking for,  
and the contrast of thin and thick are part of it. This particular  
photo just might not make it, but I'm having fun working it. :-)

You can remove it, thank you.

best
Godfrey

On Nov 25, 2007, at 9:51 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

 I find the thick black stick is too distracting whether OOF or not.
 Tried getting rid of it and cropping a little off the top.  Results  
 are
 here...

 http://tinyurl.com/2mdtx3

 Removed in 24 hours, sooner if you like.

 -p

 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Thanks for the clarification!

 It's interesting ... that's three comments on this list preferring
 more DoF. Comments from other lists haven't mentioned it at all.

 I photographed this scene both at f/3.5 and at f/11 as it was hard to
 tell in the viewfinder or LCD which one would do what I wanted:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48ba.htm

 To my eye, the deeper DoF loses the dimensionality I was after and
 becomes a little too planar. I wished I could have gotten just a
 little bit more blur, a little shallower DoF.

 Very interesting what appeals to other eyes... !! :-)

 Thanks for all your comments.

 best,
 Godfrey

 On Nov 25, 2007, at 7:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

 Godders - he means the out of focus reed in the background - top  
 right
 bothered me, too.

 I liked your little free verse intro , though

 Thank you for your comment.
 Can you be more specific? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

 Don't care much for the out of focus ones...

  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm



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Re: PESO 2007 - 48b - GDG

2007-11-25 Thread Paul Crovella
That works for me.

Cheers,
Paul

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Based on your and Paul's responses, and studying the photo a bit  
 further, what I think works is to soften the intensity of the large  
 dark twig by a bit to reduce its weight in the scene. That achieves  
 the idea I had in mind.
 
 I've replaced the original with a revision...
 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/48b.htm
 
 Further comments invited, of course.
 
 Thanks for all your comments! :-)
 
 best,
 Godfrey
 
 
 On Nov 25, 2007, at 9:44 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
 
 seriously - the darkest thing in the photo is blurry - and it is on  
 the
 right... so it kinda leaps out at you.
 if the foreground twigs had been blurry and the large twig sharp it
 perhaps might have worked ...
 For me it isn't that you used shallow DOF, but that what was not in
 focus overwhelmed the rest.
 
 

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Re: Kenko out with an K mount camera (cheap OEM but still)

2007-11-25 Thread Thibouille
IMO this probably a Cosina/vivitar/etc body, of course.

On Nov 26, 2007 12:01 AM, Bong Manayon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is that a Cosina?  Or is Kenko trying to do a Cosina?



 On Nov 26, 2007 1:22 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I love the Google language translation
 
  *Virile black body PENTAX K lens mount compatible machine*
 
 
  Thibouille wrote:
   http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/430965.html
  
   Seems Nikon and Contax/Yashica version available too ...
  
  
 
 
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Re: Kenko out with an K mount camera (cheap OEM but still)

2007-11-25 Thread John Celio
 http://www.kenko-tokina.co.jp/camera/430965.html
 
 Seems Nikon and Contax/Yashica version available too ...


Hey look!  It has a 24x36 senso... oh wait.

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