RE: PESOx2: Today's walk
Beautiful light, very atmospheric. I take it you are in Hungary, a lovely part of the world. I recently bought a book of photos which captures some of the beautiful quality of that part of the world - Beyond the Forest, by Clare Richardson. It is about Transylvania, once part of Hungary, and includes some lovely atmospheric pictures. http://www.steidlville.com/books/528-Beyond-the-Forest.html Her book Harlemville also looks interesting: http://www.steidlville.com/books/186-Harlemville.html -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timber Sent: 27 January 2008 01:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESOx2: Today's walk I had a walk with my family today at the shore of river Danube. I made a few RAW shots for later HDRi develops... Well here's the 2 result: River Danube: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92162988 A tree... :D http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92163662 Comments, critics are welcomed as always ^.^ Thanks, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
Unlike much of your work, my glands do not respond to it. I don't think I really needed this thought in my head while still having my breakfast. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: 27 January 2008 04:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait I certainly agree with your portrait criteria. My not connecting with the photo is due to there being no emotional attachment. Unlike much of your work, my glands do not respond to it. Something over which I have no control. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO ethereal Andes
I think you should go to prison for several years for inflicting that on us. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Roshchin Sent: 27 January 2008 02:52 To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO ethereal Andes Having spent some time playing with photoshop I was able to get this image: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855-jan08.jpg I separated the image in several different layers, adjusting each portion separately. I printed it on metallic paper, and it looks completely abstract. The previous version (which was somewhat adjusted, but as a whole image) can be seen for comparison here: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855.jpg As always, all brutal comments and suggestions are welcome. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO -- Solitude
Nice shot, but it seems a bit flat to me. Also, I'm not sure that solitude is really the right way to describe someone talking to someone else! -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 27 January 2008 06:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- Solitude Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20sol itude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ethereal Andes
On 26/01/08, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855-jan08.jpg I separated the image in several different layers, adjusting each portion separately. I printed it on metallic paper, and it looks completely abstract. Excellent! Great to experiment. As my art foundation tutor (wayy back in 1979) would say, there are areas in there working for me... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOx2: Today's walk
For the River it was only one shot made in RAW (PEF). The tree was -2.7, -1.3 , 0, 1.3, 2.7. Ken Waller wrote: River Danube has stunning colors! What was the differential in exposure for these shots? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESOx2: Today's walk I had a walk with my family today at the shore of river Danube. I made a few RAW shots for later HDRi develops... Well here's the 2 result: River Danube: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92162988 A tree... :D http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92163662 Comments, critics are welcomed as always ^.^ Thanks, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
LoL Jack --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unlike much of your work, my glands do not respond to it. I don't think I really needed this thought in my head while still having my breakfast. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: 27 January 2008 04:08 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait I certainly agree with your portrait criteria. My not connecting with the photo is due to there being no emotional attachment. Unlike much of your work, my glands do not respond to it. Something over which I have no control. Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
Thanks Ann. I have to admit that I later approached her with some trepidation, but she immediately brightened. Sometimes it's worth talking to a subject after the fact, but it's always a difficult move for me. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 12:39 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 7:00 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Think I would cut her off at about the elbows. Of course, I mean keep the top part. ;) Soft quiet image. Jack I think you need the whole image as Paul shot it.. lot of body language there... I wonder who pissed her off :) :) ann Not me! I spoke to her before leaving. She hadn't seen me shoot her pic. I gave her a business card and told her I'd e-mail the photo if she wrote me. She seemed pleased and smiled. It seemed like she might have been waiting for someone who was late. I think she had some PR or ad material that she wanted to present to whoever it was who wasn't there:-). She's reading it here, although she obviously knows it. She also spent quite a bit of time texting someone, then had to run outside to put more money in the parking meter. Things were not going well for her. But, as I said, I got a big smile. Paul Well I think you captured her irritation nicely... :) a -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coffee Shop Portrait
Thanks Ken. She must have been nearly asleep, since she didn't catch me. Paul On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:32 PM, Ken Waller wrote: Nice capture PAul. She looks like she's asleep to me! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait Today, in Starbucks: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6881325 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ethereal Andes
Enjoyed your explanation and agree that you succeeded in the 'real/unreal' effect. The painting style certainly appears to have been a strong influence. I've been educated and now understand and appreciate the style. Thanks! Jack --- Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Thank you, I appreciate your opinion. Actually, I was expecting to hear something similar from somebody on this list. So why did I do this version? I saw this as an opportunity to create from this photo something that is real and unreal at the same time. There was no particular message in mind, at least my mind still has not verbally defined it. While thinking about this response of mine, I realized that my idea might be subcontiously related to the art of Nicholas Roerich. E.g. see these paintings: http://www.roerich.org/servlets/ContentServlet?id=700168 http://www.roerich.org/servlets/ContentServlet?id=700125 (If you are interested, see more paintings here: http://www.roerich.ru/main.php?l=eng ) However, it was not an attempt to copy his style. It was only after your response that I recalled Roerich's paintings. Rather, while working on the photo, I was going after something in my head, but it is possible that my head was influenced by that style many years ago. Cheers, Igor Sat Jan 26 23:21:30 EST 2008 Jack Davis wrote: I THINK I'd prefer the original if the sky and far mountain range could be salvaged from over exposure. The re-worked version conveys an unreal exaggerated scene who's message escapes me. Jack --- Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Having spent some time playing with photoshop I was able to get this image: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855-jan08.jpg I separated the image in several different layers, adjusting each portion separately. I printed it on metallic paper, and it looks completely abstract. The previous version (which was somewhat adjusted, but as a whole image) can be seen for comparison here: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
I hope you regain control of your glands:-). Sorry, if my reply sounded testy. (It does to me upon rereading it in the sobriety of morning light, as Bill would say). In any case, thanks for your comment. Paul On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I certainly agree with your portrait criteria. My not connecting with the photo is due to there being no emotional attachment. Unlike much of your work, my glands do not respond to it. Something over which I have no control. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She may very well crop her thighs. Although I found them quite lovely, if perhaps ample. Don't know what you mean by no connection. It's not an intimate portrait. It's a slice of life. A voyeuristic shot as some would have it, although I certainly wasn't hiding. That's the kind of informal portraiture I aspire to. If the subject sees me, it's ruined. There's a world of pics out there where people stare back at the camera. I'll have none of that. (Unless they pay me, of course:-)). Paul On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'll bet she'll do the cropping herself! :) I feel no connection here, Paul. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 7:00 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Think I would cut her off at about the elbows. Of course, I mean keep the top part. ;) Soft quiet image. Jack I think you need the whole image as Paul shot it.. lot of body language there... I wonder who pissed her off :) :) ann Not me! I spoke to her before leaving. She hadn't seen me shoot her pic. I gave her a business card and told her I'd e-mail the photo if she wrote me. She seemed pleased and smiled. It seemed like she might have been waiting for someone who was late. I think she had some PR or ad material that she wanted to present to whoever it was who wasn't there:-). She's reading it here, although she obviously knows it. She also spent quite a bit of time texting someone, then had to run outside to put more money in the parking meter. Things were not going well for her. But, as I said, I got a big smile. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/ newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/ newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
The title is meant to be a bit ironic. Bob W wrote: Nice shot, but it seems a bit flat to me. Also, I'm not sure that solitude is really the right way to describe someone talking to someone else! -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 27 January 2008 06:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- Solitude Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20sol itude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coffee Shop Portrait
Thanks Christine. Yes, I agree that more of the reading material would have been a plus. That's the plus of a zoom. (I sometimes use the DA 16-45 in here.) When I shot in the coffee shop, I'm always inconspicuously seated in a corner. No choice of camera position possible. Here I was facing the room from an overstuffed chair that's positioned against one wall. It gives me window light as cross light. This lady was close to me and facing the window. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 12:42 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Paul: Very nice BW portrait. The 50mm 1.4 did a nice job here, didn't it? I like the shot very much, but just wish more of the reading material was in the shot--help to create stronger context. Enjoyed seeing this. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait Today, in Starbucks: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6881325 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
The flatness comes from being shot in dim light at iso 1600. I punched it up a bit but then it looked too bright. Maybe I'll work on it some more if enough people comment. P. J. Alling wrote: The title is meant to be a bit ironic. Bob W wrote: Nice shot, but it seems a bit flat to me. Also, I'm not sure that solitude is really the right way to describe someone talking to someone else! -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 27 January 2008 06:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- Solitude Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20sol itude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
P. J. Alling wrote: Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20solitude.html I like this one very much, Peter - why don't you shoot more of this kind of thing? How about changing the line to all alone by the telephone for Bob ?? (ann ducks) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Ann. I have to admit that I later approached her with some trepidation, but she immediately brightened. Sometimes it's worth talking to a subject after the fact, but it's always a difficult move for me. Paul Back in the days of film when I couldn't see _exactly_ what I had captured , that is, if I had gotten it right - and I asked for a model's release and received one, it would turn out to be something I didn't feel was up to the bar. Of course, if I didn't get one (or if I coudln't identify the plant or animal or coudln't remember where I was when I took the photo, etc.) then it was the best shot of the day. Or at least, it seemed like it. :) at least these days you can get an idea of what you shot before you have to cross that painful hurdle... (is this the ann that said she was never going digital??? :) ann On Jan 27, 2008, at 12:39 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 7:00 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Think I would cut her off at about the elbows. Of course, I mean keep the top part. ;) Soft quiet image. Jack I think you need the whole image as Paul shot it.. lot of body language there... I wonder who pissed her off :) :) ann Not me! I spoke to her before leaving. She hadn't seen me shoot her pic. I gave her a business card and told her I'd e-mail the photo if she wrote me. She seemed pleased and smiled. It seemed like she might have been waiting for someone who was late. I think she had some PR or ad material that she wanted to present to whoever it was who wasn't there:-). She's reading it here, although she obviously knows it. She also spent quite a bit of time texting someone, then had to run outside to put more money in the parking meter. Things were not going well for her. But, as I said, I got a big smile. Paul Well I think you captured her irritation nicely... :) a -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:17 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Heading to Fargo on Monday with a bunch of windmill bases. Four loads altogether. Should be there by early Thursday. I'll try and get some shots, not through a truck windshield this time. ;-0 Dave Fargo: http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.5.36 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
Not at all, Paul...but a considerate offering. :) Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you regain control of your glands:-). Sorry, if my reply sounded testy. (It does to me upon rereading it in the sobriety of morning light, as Bill would say). In any case, thanks for your comment. Paul On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I certainly agree with your portrait criteria. My not connecting with the photo is due to there being no emotional attachment. Unlike much of your work, my glands do not respond to it. Something over which I have no control. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She may very well crop her thighs. Although I found them quite lovely, if perhaps ample. Don't know what you mean by no connection. It's not an intimate portrait. It's a slice of life. A voyeuristic shot as some would have it, although I certainly wasn't hiding. That's the kind of informal portraiture I aspire to. If the subject sees me, it's ruined. There's a world of pics out there where people stare back at the camera. I'll have none of that. (Unless they pay me, of course:-)). Paul On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I'll bet she'll do the cropping herself! :) I feel no connection here, Paul. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 7:00 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Think I would cut her off at about the elbows. Of course, I mean keep the top part. ;) Soft quiet image. Jack I think you need the whole image as Paul shot it.. lot of body language there... I wonder who pissed her off :) :) ann Not me! I spoke to her before leaving. She hadn't seen me shoot her pic. I gave her a business card and told her I'd e-mail the photo if she wrote me. She seemed pleased and smiled. It seemed like she might have been waiting for someone who was late. I think she had some PR or ad material that she wanted to present to whoever it was who wasn't there:-). She's reading it here, although she obviously knows it. She also spent quite a bit of time texting someone, then had to run outside to put more money in the parking meter. Things were not going well for her. But, as I said, I got a big smile. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/ newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/ newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
Thanks Doug. Now i don't need to go.:-) I take it its not a big place. Dave On Jan 27, 2008 10:44 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:17 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Heading to Fargo on Monday with a bunch of windmill bases. Four loads altogether. Should be there by early Thursday. I'll try and get some shots, not through a truck windshield this time. ;-0 Dave Fargo: http://photos.drivingtheflies.com/index.php?page=album.5.36 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
Space is good.:-) I'll bring the new 28-75. Just waiting for Liz to go to wrk at noon so i can bring it out.LOL Dave On Jan 26, 2008 11:34 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoy the space! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT Fargo ND Heading to Fargo on Monday with a bunch of windmill bases. Four loads altogether. Should be there by early Thursday. I'll try and get some shots, not through a truck windshield this time. ;-0 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
...hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless. ~James I of England, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604 OR Tobacco, divine, rare superexcellent tobacco, which goes far beyond all panaceas, potable gold and philosopher's stones, a sovereign remedy to all diseases. ~Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg Ex-smoker Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
Might appreciate the composition more if she wasn't wearing that radiator like thing on the wall behind her. ;) I do get the mood, however. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flatness comes from being shot in dim light at iso 1600. I punched it up a bit but then it looked too bright. Maybe I'll work on it some more if enough people comment. P. J. Alling wrote: The title is meant to be a bit ironic. Bob W wrote: Nice shot, but it seems a bit flat to me. Also, I'm not sure that solitude is really the right way to describe someone talking to someone else! -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 27 January 2008 06:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- Solitude Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20sol itude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
On Jan 26, 2008 11:52 PM, Mat Maessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/26/08, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heading to Fargo on Monday with a bunch of windmill bases. Four loads altogether. Should be there by early Thursday. Watch out for guys with wood chippers. Always. Thanks Dave -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II
Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II
I like this one a bit better than the first Paul. Really shows her mood. I bet she emails you for pics Dave On Jan 27, 2008 10:36 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II
Like this one much better. She has a frazzled anxious look as though the person being called is going to wish they hadn't answered the phone. Much more interesting and a more becoming position. Good stuff, Paul. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
Good one. Nice composition. I think the grey tones and lack of contrast work well for this subject. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 1:35 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20% 20solitude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
I like it.. Dave, who quit in 1972, Brooks On Jan 27, 2008 10:52 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless. ~James I of England, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604 OR Tobacco, divine, rare superexcellent tobacco, which goes far beyond all panaceas, potable gold and philosopher's stones, a sovereign remedy to all diseases. ~Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg Ex-smoker Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOx2: Today's walk
Really like the river shot. I like the sky Dave On Jan 26, 2008 8:28 PM, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a walk with my family today at the shore of river Danube. I made a few RAW shots for later HDRi develops... Well here's the 2 result: River Danube: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92162988 A tree... :D http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92163662 Comments, critics are welcomed as always ^.^ Thanks, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ethereal Andes
I read some of the replies before i did, normally i don't. I PREFER the original, it has pleasing colours and nice skyline. However i do like the rework, and realized even before looking at the original, it had been heavely manipulated. It looks like it has a metalic feel to it, and thats what i like about it. Dave On Jan 26, 2008 9:51 PM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having spent some time playing with photoshop I was able to get this image: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855-jan08.jpg I separated the image in several different layers, adjusting each portion separately. I printed it on metallic paper, and it looks completely abstract. The previous version (which was somewhat adjusted, but as a whole image) can be seen for comparison here: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855.jpg As always, all brutal comments and suggestions are welcome. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ethereal Andes
On Jan 27, 2008 5:41 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/01/08, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855-jan08.jpg I separated the image in several different layers, adjusting each portion separately. I printed it on metallic paper, and it looks completely abstract. Excellent! Great to experiment. As my art foundation tutor (wayy back in 1979) would say, there are areas in there working for me... My art teacher told me to stay with paint by numbers stuff. Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: I'm Your Fan
So was I.:-) Fun set. Dave On Jan 26, 2008 11:37 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: chortle! I was expecting a dog wagging its tail... These are very nice indeed. Rick --- wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/92145269 and my favourite http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/92145268 Wendy K10D 10-17mm and 77mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
On Jan 27, 2008 10:09 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at least these days you can get an idea of what you shot before you have to cross that painful hurdle... (is this the ann that said she was never going digital??? :) So said Frank, and look were that got him.:--) Dave ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ethereal Andes
Igor: I like the photoshopped one. I'd love to see it on metallic paper. I don't think I've ever seen a photo on metallic paper. Of course, the original is nice too. Thanks for posting these. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: PESO ethereal Andes Having spent some time playing with photoshop I was able to get this image: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855-jan08.jpg I separated the image in several different layers, adjusting each portion separately. I printed it on metallic paper, and it looks completely abstract. The previous version (which was somewhat adjusted, but as a whole image) can be seen for comparison here: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855.jpg As always, all brutal comments and suggestions are welcome. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Waters edge
ann sanfedele wrote: Francis wrote: http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=526gallery_id=tb=sbs=pentaxdiscuss Lovely shot, Francis - again. But I'm really perplexed that you have said you live very close to Healing Waters and haven't said a thing about my ex and his wife --- are they no longer there? did you quarrel with them? I was hoping you would get to see them when they get back in the spring and say hi for me and point to the coincidence, since it is really Bob Sanfedele's 'fault I got into photography. Just curious... as I always like these small world things. ann No I didn't quarrel with them.:) I've just never managed to bump in to them. (I'm so not the kind of guy who likes to walk up to a stranger and introduce my self!) Perhaps you could upload a photo of him/them because the chances are, on an island this size, I might already know him. Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
Peter: I like it! You caught the mood moment. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:35 AM Subject: PESO -- Solitude Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20solitude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOx2: Today's walk
Timber: I like the tree best, but both were nice to see. In tree, I like the colors in the sky and the overwhelming presence of the tree. Very dramatic. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: PESOx2: Today's walk I had a walk with my family today at the shore of river Danube. I made a few RAW shots for later HDRi develops... Well here's the 2 result: River Danube: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92162988 A tree... :D http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/92163662 Comments, critics are welcomed as always ^.^ Thanks, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coffee Shop Portrait II
Paul: I like this one best of the 2. Very nice. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
On 27/01/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg That's an extra-ordinary tri-cycle parked there -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
On Jan 26, 2008, at 19:17, David J Brooks wrote: Heading to Fargo on Monday with a bunch of windmill bases. Four loads altogether. Should be there by early Thursday. I'll try and get some shots, not through a truck windshield this time. ;-0 Dress warm! From the National Weather Service pages: Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy and blustery, with a low around -22. Wednesday: Partly sunny and cold, with a high near -8. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around -19. Thursday: Mostly sunny, with a high near -3. Hope you have spare batteries. :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO ethereal Andes
David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 27, 2008 5:41 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/01/08, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Argentina/IMGPa9855-jan08.jpg I separated the image in several different layers, adjusting each portion separately. I printed it on metallic paper, and it looks completely abstract. Excellent! Great to experiment. As my art foundation tutor (wayy back in 1979) would say, there are areas in there working for me... My art teacher told me to stay with paint by numbers stuff. Dave My art teacher thought I had talent, I think he was blind... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso: Waters edge
Thank you all for the kind words. Cheers, Francis (young squirt) Paul Stenquist wrote: Fair enough. I find it artful and fascinating. But reactions to photography are always subjective. Paul On Jan 26, 2008, at 9:36 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The reflection puts my nerves on edge, (can't say exactly why, but it does), doesn't look right to my eye. Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Interesting concept, kind of cool in fact. I'm not sure I'd want to stare at it on my wall for a long time however Just curious. Why do you feel that way? To my mind, it's a stunning photograph, like much of Francis' work. I'd love to see it in high res every morning. But that's just me. What is it that troubles you, Peter? Paul Francis wrote: http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php? image_id=526gallery_id=tb=sbs=pentaxdiscuss Cheers, Francis -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 27, 2008 10:09 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at least these days you can get an idea of what you shot before you have to cross that painful hurdle... (is this the ann that said she was never going digital??? :) So said Frank, and look were that got him.:--) Yep, sharp images, good exposures, and horror of horrors /color/! Dave ann -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg That's an extra-ordinary tri-cycle parked there Very thoughtful of the pub to have the wheel rut fitted into the pavement. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
I didn't feel like asking her to move to a more photogenic location... Jack Davis wrote: Might appreciate the composition more if she wasn't wearing that radiator like thing on the wall behind her. ;) I do get the mood, however. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flatness comes from being shot in dim light at iso 1600. I punched it up a bit but then it looked too bright. Maybe I'll work on it some more if enough people comment. P. J. Alling wrote: The title is meant to be a bit ironic. Bob W wrote: Nice shot, but it seems a bit flat to me. Also, I'm not sure that solitude is really the right way to describe someone talking to someone else! -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 27 January 2008 06:35 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- Solitude Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20sol itude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Museum visit report (Large format photography)
My family are all from small-town rural areas, sometime in the next few years I'll be retiring and moving to a small town, but during my adult life I have always lived in cities. And one thing I have always appreciated about cities are the museums and galleries. Here in Kansas City the Nelson-Atkins is a mid-range (not great) museum, but last year finished a major expansion with the construction of a highly acclaimed (by architects nationally) and frequently ridiculed (by local rubes) new modern space adjoining the original 1930's typical neo-gothic pile of stone. Coincident with, or maybe because of, the expansion, Hallmark Cards (headquartered here in town) gave the museum their entire collection of hundreds of thousands photographic images. And so the new space has large spaces devoted to photography. One relatively permanent section with images of the Masters, a second section with rotating collections of lesser-know artists, and sometimes a photography exhibit in one of the two Special Exhibits sections. Yesterday through early April one of the Special Exhibits is on the work of Art Sinsabaugh. Some of his early work while a student in Chicago in the early 1950's, and then images from his midwest landscape series and his Chicago series, both done in the early-mid 60's. Sinsabaugh used a large format camera. I mean, really large! 12'' x 20 large! His camera (and the very sturdy wooden tripod) were there as part of the exhibit. One of the fascinating aspects of his work is that they were all printed 20' wide (presumably contact printed from the negative.) However, for many of the midwest landscape shorts, the print was only 1-2 tall, and none were over 5 inches tall. So you have a panorama effect achieved through selective cropping from the top, with a very successful result. Though there were a couple I would have liked to have seen full-frame; I think the huge empty sky that he cropped out could have been at least as effective as the very short very wide panoramas. (His Chicago prints tended to be taller because of the greater vertical content he was dealing with in the city.) A smaller exhibit had photos by contemporary photographers Mark Klett and Bryon Wolfe and by Mark Ruwedel. KlettWolfe have done many recreations of the masters' work, locating the exact spot, angle, time of day etc. where Muybridge or Adams must have stood to take some of their iconic images. Their prints are mostly stitched- together panoramas overlaid with reproductions of prints from the original artist. So you can see the broad view, and see what elements of the scene Ansel or whoever chose to focus on. In one particular image, they found a spot on the shore of Lake Tenaya (Yosemite) where at various times Muybridge (1872), Weston (1937) and Adams (1942) all stood and took three very different pictures. A fascinating demonstration of the art of composition. I am not sure about the Sinsabaugh exhibit, but I wouldn't be surprised if the KlettWolfe work showed up at a gallery or museum near you one of these days - worth an afternoon. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
David J Brooks wrote: Heading to Fargo on Monday with a bunch of windmill bases. Four loads altogether. Should be there by early Thursday. Fargo, North Dakota in January and February. Some guys get all the luck... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - on my desk
Today is a nice lazy Saturday for me. The sun is shining into the window next to my desk here, so I took out my old Jupiter 9, and put it on the DS2. This is just a quick grab, nothing earth-shattering or truly artistic about it. Processed fairly quickly in Lightroom, and converted/uploaded using a nifty plugin I found. http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/testscans/IMGP2068.jpg.html My Jupiter 9 is one of the older non-multi-coated versions, and there's a bit of oil haze on a couple of the elements, thanks to the over-abundance of lubrication on the focusing mechanism. That lends a bit of an ethereal glow to the shot that I kind of like. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: away from this for a few days ...
Sorry to hear this, Godfrey. My condolences. Jaume - Mensaje original De: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: PDML List PDML@pdml.net Enviado: sábado, 26 de enero, 2008 16:24:40 Asunto: away from this for a few days ... Friends on the PDML, My mother has passed away at the age of 84 after a protracted period of failing health. I'll be traveling to New York today to attend the services and help my brothers wrap up affairs. I'll not have much time to look at things for a bit. I visited her at the beginning of December so we could share some time together while she was still able and smiling. She was alert and able to talk until just a couple of days ago, I was able to talk to her on the phone Wednesday and say a last good-bye. Her consciousness faded on Thursday. Yesterday one of my brothers was in attendance at her side when she went softly to sleep and gently stopped breathing for the last time. She was a remarkable person ... even beyond being my mother and putting up with me... with tremendous strength of will and a huge heart. She suffered many adversities in her life with guts and good humor, always with the best intent for those around her and never a thought for herself. We will all miss her and hold her memory dearly. Godfrey Only in silence the word, only in dark the light, only in dying, life; bright the hawk's flight on the empty sky. - Song of Ea, U. K. LeGuin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II
Paul, The first one is my favorite. This one seems to have too much going on in it. And her facial features are obscured. She's a hansome woman and you should feature that. Regards, Bob S. On Jan 27, 2008 9:52 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like this one much better. She has a frazzled anxious look as though the person being called is going to wish they hadn't answered the phone. Much more interesting and a more becoming position. Good stuff, Paul. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
Very good Bob! Over here in the northern USA we punish smokers with freezing weather. Your guy looks too comfortable! Regards, Bob S. (35 years smoke free) On Jan 27, 2008 9:52 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless. ~James I of England, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604 OR Tobacco, divine, rare superexcellent tobacco, which goes far beyond all panaceas, potable gold and philosopher's stones, a sovereign remedy to all diseases. ~Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg Ex-smoker Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coffee Shop Portrait II
Christine Aguila wrote: Paul: I like this one best of the 2. Very nice. Cheers, Christine I agree -- with you Christine and others of us - the mood is still captured the body is less awkward looking. ann - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait
David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 27, 2008 10:09 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at least these days you can get an idea of what you shot before you have to cross that painful hurdle... (is this the ann that said she was never going digital??? :) So said Frank, and look were that got him.:--) Dave ann The mightiest of us have fallen :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hello, mountains, pancakes, etc
Tim Bray wrote: [Delurk] Gosh this place is fun. Happy to have found it. Pointing pancakes at mountains: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/01/22/Howe-Sound Meta-PDML (scroll to the bottom): http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/01/25/Pentax -Tim [Relurk] Very pleasant reading, Tim. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some things never change
From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] The ones that couldn't be convinced, though, either left mad, or in tears. I understood their frustration, but still can't understand why they would react that way (it's not like I was being aggressive about it or anything, I was just trying to help). Republican parents. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
Bob W: Nice shot. More good light. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: A custom loathsome to the eye, ... ...hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless. ~James I of England, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604 OR Tobacco, divine, rare superexcellent tobacco, which goes far beyond all panaceas, potable gold and philosopher's stones, a sovereign remedy to all diseases. ~Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg Ex-smoker Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
The custom may well be loathsome to the eye, but the photo certainly is not. Good one. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Bob W: Nice shot. More good light. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: A custom loathsome to the eye, ... ...hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless. ~James I of England, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604 OR Tobacco, divine, rare superexcellent tobacco, which goes far beyond all panaceas, potable gold and philosopher's stones, a sovereign remedy to all diseases. ~Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg Ex-smoker Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.
Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.
dpreview has lots of these stories in the forums. The locking pin is stuck and some plastic part has snapped inside the flash. From what I understand it's possible to remove 4 screws on the flash and remove the broken plastic part. Better search the dpreview forums how to do this. On Jan 27, 2008 10:20 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Toine http://www.repiuk.nl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coffee Shop Portrait II
Thanks all. I first leaned toward the other because more of the face is visible, but I prefer the softer background on this one. Anyway, thanks to all for looking and commenting. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 3:45 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: Christine Aguila wrote: Paul: I like this one best of the 2. Very nice. Cheers, Christine I agree -- with you Christine and others of us - the mood is still captured the body is less awkward looking. ann - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Coffee Shop Portrait II
Thanks Bob. That was my take. But it's all very subjective. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Paul, The first one is my favorite. This one seems to have too much going on in it. And her facial features are obscured. She's a hansome woman and you should feature that. Regards, Bob S. On Jan 27, 2008 9:52 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like this one much better. She has a frazzled anxious look as though the person being called is going to wish they hadn't answered the phone. Much more interesting and a more becoming position. Good stuff, Paul. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an earlier shot of the same lady. This was at a larger ap and lower iso: f3.2, 1/40th, ISO 500. The earlier posting was at f6.7, 1/25th, ISO 800. I had intended to shoot all at f3.2, but I think my finger or clothing turned one of the ap wheels. In this shot she's replying to a text, probably from someone she was supposed to meet at the coffee shop. You can see some documents in front of her. They look like video supers ganged on a page. She might be an advertising writer. If so, she lives in a world of constant stress and frustration:-). In between the two shots her parking meter expired, and she had to dig for change and run out into the cold. That didn't improve her mood. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6883660 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. _ ___ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.
Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul When you twist the lock ring a little pin extends from the flash into the shoe. It really sounds like the pin isn't retracting. Try playing with the lock ring. If the pin has broken loose, you might be able to get it to retract by holding the camera upside down and wiggling the flash. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Test
Testing because I haven't rec'd a single message from the list since 23 January. Hmmm... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.
Yeah, it's the fifth pin not disengaging. I would first make sure that the flash is pushed all the way into the shoe to center the pin (hopefully it isn't bent by now). Next, try holding the camera/flash upside down and rapping it by the shoe lightly in the (with the flash in the unlocked position), this may free the pin and allow you to remove the flash. -Brendan --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul When you twist the lock ring a little pin extends from the flash into the shoe. It really sounds like the pin isn't retracting. Try playing with the lock ring. If the pin has broken loose, you might be able to get it to retract by holding the camera upside down and wiggling the flash. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Bad Pentax Engineering (was Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.)
Attention Pentax Engineers: If you're reading this, you should be ASHAMED for letting a product with this failure mode go out the door. ASHAMED. Designing any kind of locking mechanism that can break in a locked position is just plain bad engineering. --Mark Paul Stenquist pnstenquist at comcast.net Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.
Thanks Scott. I'll try that. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul When you twist the lock ring a little pin extends from the flash into the shoe. It really sounds like the pin isn't retracting. Try playing with the lock ring. If the pin has broken loose, you might be able to get it to retract by holding the camera upside down and wiggling the flash. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.
Thanks to all who replied. I'll give it a try. Paul On Jan 27, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: Yeah, it's the fifth pin not disengaging. I would first make sure that the flash is pushed all the way into the shoe to center the pin (hopefully it isn't bent by now). Next, try holding the camera/flash upside down and rapping it by the shoe lightly in the (with the flash in the unlocked position), this may free the pin and allow you to remove the flash. -Brendan --- Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul When you twist the lock ring a little pin extends from the flash into the shoe. It really sounds like the pin isn't retracting. Try playing with the lock ring. If the pin has broken loose, you might be able to get it to retract by holding the camera upside down and wiggling the flash. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Nap Time
While my flash was stuck on the camera, I grabbed this:-) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6885144size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Nap Time
Paul: That's lovely. She's so sweet, awake or sleeping. Cheered me up to see that. Thanks, Paul Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: PESO: Nap Time While my flash was stuck on the camera, I grabbed this:-) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6885144size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.
Paul, I just noticed something, ignore my last post! There's a pin rides on the top of the lock if you look at the front of the flash. That is part of the mechanism for the locking pin. With the flash in the locked position, use a small flat bladed screwdriver to lift this pin up and that should free the locking pin (as long as it's not bent). -Brendan --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: First attempt at IR
Hi all, My mum always gives me a little money for my birthdays, this year I bought myself a little prezzie of an IR filter... Today I got a chance to get out and play. http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/IMGP5586aweb.jpg Any thoughts, comments etc. gratefully received. Pentax *ist-DL 18-55 kit lens. Cheers, Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: EVF camera recommendation
My friend's EVF 10X zoom nifty NIkon has broken (just ther occasional line static on the LCD or viewfinder. She doesn't want a DSLR. She wants another 10X zoom, etc. The Canon Powershot S5 looks like a good replacement. Any suggestions? What BH have for advanced digital cameras: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/8613/Digital_Cameras_Advanced_Digital_Cameras.html Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: First attempt at IR
Drew, Long time no see here! Great photo! Most IRs I see are BW, and the blue sky is a nice touch. Methinks it would benefit from a bit of counterclockwise rotation, so that the majority of the trees are vertical. Rick --- drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My mum always gives me a little money for my birthdays, this year I bought myself a little prezzie of an IR filter... Today I got a chance to get out and play. http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/IMGP5586aweb.jpg Any thoughts, comments etc. gratefully received. Pentax *ist-DL 18-55 kit lens. Cheers, Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bad Pentax Engineering (was Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.)
The problem is the lock pin is stuck, which is the engineering hack that Pentax and Nikon both have used to solve the problem that the ISO hotshoe simply isn't capable of holding a flash safely. The solution is to abandon the archaic and poorly designed ISO flash shoe (which was never intended to hold flashes in the first place, it was designed to hold viewfinders back in 1921). Minolta got this right with the 7000i and has been pilloried for it ever since, but their shoe is far more reliable and mechanically superiori to the ISO shoe. -Adam On 1/27/08, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attention Pentax Engineers: If you're reading this, you should be ASHAMED for letting a product with this failure mode go out the door. ASHAMED. Designing any kind of locking mechanism that can break in a locked position is just plain bad engineering. --Mark Paul Stenquist pnstenquist at comcast.net Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: First attempt at IR
drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mum always gives me a little money for my birthdays, this year I bought myself a little prezzie of an IR filter... Today I got a chance to get out and play. http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/IMGP5586aweb.jpg Not bad at all. Pity the later models aren't as IR-sensitive as the DL and DS used to be. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
I really like the pic. In 1914, my grandmother was in nursing school, and her physician told her to take up smoking because her blood pressure was too low (90/60). She quit when she was about 70, and had stubborn high blood pressure and emphysema. As the dean told us on our first day of medical school, Half of what we will teach you is wrong. Unfortunately, we don't know which half. Rick --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless. ~James I of England, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604 OR Tobacco, divine, rare superexcellent tobacco, which goes far beyond all panaceas, potable gold and philosopher's stones, a sovereign remedy to all diseases. ~Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg Ex-smoker Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. Nice one. Had to skip on a similar scene, last Friday, because I had left the K10D in the car: A group of grannies, well in their 70's, crammed into a phone booth in front of a café in Verviers, Belgium, for a quick smoke. It was in fact rather cold and windy outside. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
k10d vs nikon d80 handling
Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Solitude
Don't change anything, Peter. It's good. Rick --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shot another event today. There was a reception afterwards and after that people hanging around the hall preparing to leave. This caught my eye. More as a composition than anything else. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/PESO%20--%20%20solitude.html Equipment: Pentax *ist Ds/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Converted to BW with Fotomatic BW Plus Green Filter Applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nap Time
Apparently you got the flash off by some method other than kicking the camera+flash down the basement stairs... This is a great photo, Paul. The adult hand coming over the shoulder makes it. Rick --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While my flash was stuck on the camera, I grabbed this:-) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6885144size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: EVF camera recommendation
Find a used or NOS Canon S3. The S5 has too much sensor for the lens and doesn't deliver the IQ of its predecessor. Otherwise I'd look at the excellent Panasonics. -Adam On 1/27/08, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend's EVF 10X zoom nifty NIkon has broken (just ther occasional line static on the LCD or viewfinder. She doesn't want a DSLR. She wants another 10X zoom, etc. The Canon Powershot S5 looks like a good replacement. Any suggestions? What BH have for advanced digital cameras: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/8613/Digital_Cameras_Advanced_Digital_Cameras.html Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
Well, This is just one of the most common complaints about the Pentax DSLRs, and the fact that it hasn't been addressed in the new K20D is contributing to a less enthusiastic reception of this model. (this and the same continuous shooting rate as the K10D, 3 fps, but in my case this is not that critical). Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: domingo, 27 de enero, 2008 23:59:23 Asunto: k10d vs nikon d80 handling Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
Gaurav, Were you using a K10D with the new SDM lenses? They focus pretty quickly and are very quiet because the focus motor is in the lens. Other DA lenses will focus a bit more slowly and be louder. My buddy shoots Canon and says that his 40D (with 9 autofocus sensors to the K10D's 11) focuses very quickly. But this camera also does 6.5 fps and is $500 more for the same MP's. -Brendan --- Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
Dave, You go south of Chicago or somehow north? Regards, Bob S. On Jan 27, 2008 9:57 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Space is good.:-) I'll bring the new 28-75. Just waiting for Liz to go to wrk at noon so i can bring it out.LOL Dave On Jan 26, 2008 11:34 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoy the space! Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT Fargo ND Heading to Fargo on Monday with a bunch of windmill bases. Four loads altogether. Should be there by early Thursday. I'll try and get some shots, not through a truck windshield this time. ;-0 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
The basic control layout of the D80 and K10D are very similar. I do prefer the D80's location for the AE-Lock, but the K10D's DoF preview is better IMHO and the K10D's Fn menu is faster than the Nikon's menu-based setup. Note the Nikon 18-70 AF-S is a much higher-end lens than the Pentax 18-55, it's most comparable to the 16-45DA in performance and offers a lot more zoom range (In reality, the only thing similar for Pentax is the Sigma 17-70). That said, the 18-70 will AF faster on a D80 than anything on the Pentax, although the DA* 16-50 SDM will come close in performance. The higher-end Nikons(D80 and up) AF faster than any Pentax when matched with a good AF-S lens. However once it locks on, the Pentax will be at least as accurate in focusing. Note the D80 lacks any weather sealing and you need to buy VR lenses like the 18-200 VR to get stabilization, which is built-in on the pentax. -Adam On 1/27/08, Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
I am afraid that even Pentax acknowledges that there is no improvement in focus speed with the SDM lenses. They are just quieter. Note that their product description doesn't even talk about speed: advanced SDM system that ensures smooth, quiet autofocusing operation using the supersonic motor installed in the lens body Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 28 de enero, 2008 0:24:40 Asunto: Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling Gaurav, Were you using a K10D with the new SDM lenses? They focus pretty quickly and are very quiet because the focus motor is in the lens. Other DA lenses will focus a bit more slowly and be louder. My buddy shoots Canon and says that his 40D (with 9 autofocus sensors to the K10D's 11) focuses very quickly. But this camera also does 6.5 fps and is $500 more for the same MP's. -Brendan --- Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bad Pentax Engineering (was Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.)
Well, There you go. Every company has customized their flash interfaces so that, in practice, there is no such thing as a universal flash mount, anyway. Why not move to something better? Is anyone here so invested in their classic flashes that they'll be crushed if they can't use a flash designed in 1984 on a 2008 digital camera? Anyway, I still believe that designing a flash locking pin mechanism that easily breaks in a stuck position is really poor engineering. Makes me look at the mechanism on my 360FGZ with concern. Adam Maas adam at mawz.ca wrote: The problem is the lock pin is stuck, which is the engineering hack that Pentax and Nikon both have used to solve the problem that the ISO hotshoe simply isn't capable of holding a flash safely. The solution is to abandon the archaic and poorly designed ISO flash shoe (which was never intended to hold flashes in the first place, it was designed to hold viewfinders back in 1921). Minolta got this right with the 7000i and has been pilloried for it ever since, but their shoe is far more reliable and mechanically superiori to the ISO shoe. -Adam On 1/27/08, Mark Erickson mark at westerickson.net wrote: Attention Pentax Engineers: If you're reading this, you should be ASHAMED for letting a product with this failure mode go out the door. ASHAMED. Designing any kind of locking mechanism that can break in a locked position is just plain bad engineering. --Mark Paul Stenquist pnstenquist at comcast.net Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: A custom loathsome to the eye, ... ...hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs, and in the black, stinking fume thereof nearest resembling the horrible Stygian smoke of the pit that is bottomless. ~James I of England, A Counterblaste to Tobacco, 1604 OR Tobacco, divine, rare superexcellent tobacco, which goes far beyond all panaceas, potable gold and philosopher's stones, a sovereign remedy to all diseases. ~Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. http://www.web-options.com/Smoker.jpg Ex-smoker Bob Tobacco, the Indian's revenge. EB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ...
A group of grannies, well in their 70's, crammed into a phone booth in front of a café in Verviers, Belgium, for a quick smoke. It was in fact rather cold and windy outside. :-) Ralf Ralf: I would have loved to see a photo of the above :-) I'm very sorry you forgot your camera. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: A custom loathsome to the eye, ... Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You pays your money, and you takes your choice. But you have to do it in the road. Nice one. Had to skip on a similar scene, last Friday, because I had left the K10D in the car: -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
Note that SDM lenses are micro-motor drive, which is necessary to build dual-drive lenses. The really fast USM/AF-S lenses use a ring-type motor that is noticably faster than micro-motor designs. The Nikkor 18-70 AF-S uses such a ring-type motor. -Adam On 1/27/08, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid that even Pentax acknowledges that there is no improvement in focus speed with the SDM lenses. They are just quieter. Note that their product description doesn't even talk about speed: advanced SDM system that ensures smooth, quiet autofocusing operation using the supersonic motor installed in the lens body Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 28 de enero, 2008 0:24:40 Asunto: Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling Gaurav, Were you using a K10D with the new SDM lenses? They focus pretty quickly and are very quiet because the focus motor is in the lens. Other DA lenses will focus a bit more slowly and be louder. My buddy shoots Canon and says that his 40D (with 9 autofocus sensors to the K10D's 11) focuses very quickly. But this camera also does 6.5 fps and is $500 more for the same MP's. -Brendan --- Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: First attempt at IR
Successful shot! Jack --- drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My mum always gives me a little money for my birthdays, this year I bought myself a little prezzie of an IR filter... Today I got a chance to get out and play. http://www.rileyelf.free-online.co.uk/IMGP5586aweb.jpg Any thoughts, comments etc. gratefully received. Pentax *ist-DL 18-55 kit lens. Cheers, Drew. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
- Original Message - From: Gaurav Aggarwal Subject: k10d vs nikon d80 handling Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. It would have been nice if you had compared equivalent lenses in your research. There is no doubt in my mind that anything other than the bottom end Nikon or Canon bodies will outperform the K10 auto focus. However, I bought into Pentax because I wanted to use Pentax lenses, moving away from Nikon and their lenses in the process. To my eye, Pentax glass takes better pictures. Twenty five years later, many as a professional photographer, I still think I made the right decision. The K10 offers image stabilization to the two lenses you already own, If your most important criteria is camera body performance, the D80 will be the better camera, if overall picture quality is your most important criteria, I believe Pentax is still the better choice. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bad Pentax Engineering (was Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flash inseparable.)
Hmm, my Nikon Speedlights work just fine on my Pentax's, or my Mamiyas. The only thing 'customized' about various hotshoes is the dedicated contacts and lock pin location. Which isn't all that dedicated. But I would like to see a modern shoe design on more than a Sony. -Adam On 1/27/08, Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, There you go. Every company has customized their flash interfaces so that, in practice, there is no such thing as a universal flash mount, anyway. Why not move to something better? Is anyone here so invested in their classic flashes that they'll be crushed if they can't use a flash designed in 1984 on a 2008 digital camera? Anyway, I still believe that designing a flash locking pin mechanism that easily breaks in a stuck position is really poor engineering. Makes me look at the mechanism on my 360FGZ with concern. Adam Maas adam at mawz.ca wrote: The problem is the lock pin is stuck, which is the engineering hack that Pentax and Nikon both have used to solve the problem that the ISO hotshoe simply isn't capable of holding a flash safely. The solution is to abandon the archaic and poorly designed ISO flash shoe (which was never intended to hold flashes in the first place, it was designed to hold viewfinders back in 1921). Minolta got this right with the 7000i and has been pilloried for it ever since, but their shoe is far more reliable and mechanically superiori to the ISO shoe. -Adam On 1/27/08, Mark Erickson mark at westerickson.net wrote: Attention Pentax Engineers: If you're reading this, you should be ASHAMED for letting a product with this failure mode go out the door. ASHAMED. Designing any kind of locking mechanism that can break in a locked position is just plain bad engineering. --Mark Paul Stenquist pnstenquist at comcast.net Yes, it's true. I mounted the 540 flash on the K10D this afternoon in an effort to shoot some birdies, and now it won't come off. I tried a little bit of WD40 ( a light lubricant), lots of tugging and pulling. I'm guessing that a screw has come loose on the hot shoe and is locking it in place. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'm going to have to send camera and flash to Pentax. A pisser. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Fargo ND
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: OT Fargo ND Dave, You go south of Chicago or somehow north? I think if he goes north, he gets to Winnipeg eventually, if he turns around and goes east, he'll get home a lot faster. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
Yeah, that's true, but all the same I notice a difference. It may be so slight that Pentax doesn't bother touting it. -Brendan --- Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid that even Pentax acknowledges that there is no improvement in focus speed with the SDM lenses. They are just quieter. Note that their product description doesn't even talk about speed: advanced SDM system that ensures smooth, quiet autofocusing operation using the supersonic motor installed in the lens body Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 28 de enero, 2008 0:24:40 Asunto: Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling Gaurav, Were you using a K10D with the new SDM lenses? They focus pretty quickly and are very quiet because the focus motor is in the lens. Other DA lenses will focus a bit more slowly and be louder. My buddy shoots Canon and says that his 40D (with 9 autofocus sensors to the K10D's 11) focuses very quickly. But this camera also does 6.5 fps and is $500 more for the same MP's. -Brendan --- Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
I'd expect the DA*'s to focus faster than slower lenses like the 16-45, due to the brighter max aperture -Adam On 1/27/08, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that's true, but all the same I notice a difference. It may be so slight that Pentax doesn't bother touting it. -Brendan --- Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid that even Pentax acknowledges that there is no improvement in focus speed with the SDM lenses. They are just quieter. Note that their product description doesn't even talk about speed: advanced SDM system that ensures smooth, quiet autofocusing operation using the supersonic motor installed in the lens body Regards, Jaume - Mensaje original De: Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: lunes, 28 de enero, 2008 0:24:40 Asunto: Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling Gaurav, Were you using a K10D with the new SDM lenses? They focus pretty quickly and are very quiet because the focus motor is in the lens. Other DA lenses will focus a bit more slowly and be louder. My buddy shoots Canon and says that his 40D (with 9 autofocus sensors to the K10D's 11) focuses very quickly. But this camera also does 6.5 fps and is $500 more for the same MP's. -Brendan --- Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ ¿Con Mascota por primera vez? Sé un mejor Amigo. Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas http://es.answers.yahoo.com/info/welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bad Pentax Engineering (was Re: ARRRRGH! K10 D and 540 flashinseparable.)
- Original Message - From: Mark Erickson Subject: Re: Bad Pentax Engineering (was Re: AGH! K10 D and 540 flashinseparable.) Well, There you go. Every company has customized their flash interfaces so that, in practice, there is no such thing as a universal flash mount, anyway. Why not move to something better? Is anyone here so invested in their classic flashes that they'll be crushed if they can't use a flash designed in 1984 on a 2008 digital camera? The time to make the break would have been when they moved to a digital only interface, as that would have annoyed the fewest people. The hot shoe has long been a weak point in camera design, and has only gotten worse as flash units have gotten biger and heavier. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nap Time
Paul Stenquist wrote: While my flash was stuck on the camera, I grabbed this:-) http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6885144size=lg what a sweet shot! ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: k10d vs nikon d80 handling
Thanks everyone for such prompt responses and discussion. Yes, I understand that Pentax offers in-body image stabilization and that I am used to Pentax systems -- I also have a M-50 f/1.4 in addition to the two zooms that really work very well for me. I was almost sold to the K10D given the stabilization and the weather sealing but somehow the auto-focusing seemed so such better. Note that I have never used AF earlier, having only used manual focus lenses for the last 6-7 years now. I couldn't compare apples to apples since I realized that Pentax doesn't have a 18-70 and I guess this is how the salesman was selling the Nikon by putting a more expensive lens. So a different question -- In your experience does the K10D AF often hunt and be random? On a 18-55 or any other lens that isn't too expensive like the DA* lenses. I prefer to get 1 new lens that is less than $300 and probably another later. What a vague question but I'll ask nevertheless :-) Gaurav On 1/27/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Gaurav Aggarwal Subject: k10d vs nikon d80 handling Hi, I am hoping to buy my first Digital SLR and spent a few minutes in a store before my wife dragged me out :-) I use a Pentax ZX-M with two PKA zoom lenses right now (35-105 f/3.5 and 70-200 f/4). I thought that I liked the feel of Pentax K10D but then when I tried Nikon D80 it sort of felt lot better. Was this because I spent too little time inside the store and not outside etc.? I don't know. The focussing on Pentax with the 18-55 seemed to hunt compared to the Nikon that had 18-70. Has anyone had direct exposure to Canon and Nikon besides Pentax. I searched the archive and read a few emails on this topic but wanted to ask all over again. Sorry about this. My concern is that Pentax autofocus may seem to hunt more and be less accurate. The salesman and couple of other customers in the store all suggested that Nikon is way better than Pentax. It would have been nice if you had compared equivalent lenses in your research. There is no doubt in my mind that anything other than the bottom end Nikon or Canon bodies will outperform the K10 auto focus. However, I bought into Pentax because I wanted to use Pentax lenses, moving away from Nikon and their lenses in the process. To my eye, Pentax glass takes better pictures. Twenty five years later, many as a professional photographer, I still think I made the right decision. The K10 offers image stabilization to the two lenses you already own, If your most important criteria is camera body performance, the D80 will be the better camera, if overall picture quality is your most important criteria, I believe Pentax is still the better choice. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: away from this for a few days ...
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:33:05 -0800 Friends on the PDML, My mother has passed away at the age of 84 after a protracted period of failing health. I'll be traveling to New York today to attend the services and help my brothers wrap up affairs. I'll not have much time to look at things for a bit. My sincere condolences. Losing one's mother is always painful no matter how ready they were to go. I'll be thinking of you this week and wishing you the strength to carry on. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
