OT (Bikey): A robust defence of Elle Macpherson

[Bob W]

Here is an interesting article (with which I agree) about the
paradoxical dangers arising from our safety culture:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/19/transport.transpor
t

Interesting quote: "All vehicles are people in disguise, negotiating
the use of common space with each other. They must never be induced to
delegate that obligation to signs and machines. They certainly must
not think themselves safer than others, or they will behave with less
consideration for others as a result."

Bob


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Re: [Not official] P-TTL Ring Flash from Metz coming ??

[Toine]

Now I must make a choice between the Metz and the new Pentax "ring"
flash. The Metz is more compact and has a build in diffusor, the
Pentax has 4 flash tubes. Maybe the price of the Metz will make the
choice for me...

Toine

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Thibouille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> More here:
> http://www.digit.no/wip4/unik_makroblitz_metz_mecablitz_15_ms-1_digital/d.epl?id=155240
>
> Scroll down. Nice real English text ;)
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RE: PESO Shoemobile

[Bob W]

Very striking! The tighter crop has more impact.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Christine Aguila
> Sent: 20 September 2008 06:18
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: PESO Shoemobile
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> On a little walkabout earlier today in downtown Chicago.  Would be 
> interested in knowing which crop you prefer.
> 
> K10D, ISO 200, DA* 50mm - 135mm @ 50mm, 1/400 sec @ f4.
> 
> near full frame
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7864882
> 
> tighter
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7864878
> 
> comments/critique welcome.
> Cheers, Christine 


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Re: PESO Shoemobile

[P. J. Alling]

I like the square crop better.  I know someone who'd kill for the car...

Christine Aguila wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> On a little walkabout earlier today in downtown Chicago.  Would be 
> interested in knowing which crop you prefer.
>
> K10D, ISO 200, DA* 50mm - 135mm @ 50mm, 1/400 sec @ f4.
>
> near full frame
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7864882
>
> tighter
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7864878
>
> comments/critique welcome.
> Cheers, Christine 
>
>
>
>   


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Re: DA 55-300

[P. J. Alling]

>
> I'm still waiting for the DA* 60~250. Maybe in '09.(?)
Supposedly it's release will be announced at Photokina this month.

Jack Davis wrote:
> Read the Pop Photo SQF test data and was impressed by the numbers of that 
> particular copy. Substantially better performance than other comparable range 
> zooms as well as the DA*300 f/4 for example.
> Tested in the the Oct. issue and included on their website.
> None the less, I'm still waiting for the DA* 60~250. Maybe in '09.(?)
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: DA 55-300
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 7:00 PM
>> Who has the 55-300?  Like it?
>>
>> CW
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Re: PESO Shoemobile

[Sandy Harris]

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On a little walkabout earlier today in downtown Chicago.  Would be
> interested in knowing which crop you prefer.

Nice catch! I mildly prefer the tighter crop.

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PESO Shoemobile

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

On a little walkabout earlier today in downtown Chicago.  Would be 
interested in knowing which crop you prefer.

K10D, ISO 200, DA* 50mm - 135mm @ 50mm, 1/400 sec @ f4.

near full frame
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7864882

tighter
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7864878

comments/critique welcome.
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Re: Weddings and such.

[P. J. Alling]

frank theriault wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Doug Franklin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Though I'm not much of a fan of country gravy, I have to agree with PJ
>> on this one.  It bears not even a passing resemblance to mushroom soup,
>> if the gravy and the soup were made correctly.  And hand-thrown cathead
>> biscuits are just leagues better than any scone out there. :-)
>> 
>
> Well, I've only had biscuits and gravy when I've been down to GFM, so
> that's what, three trips now?  Anyway, the gravy certainly didn't
> taste like mushroom soup.  It ~was~ quite delicious, but it was
> ~rich~!!  I've never tasted anything quite like it.
>
> Having since turned vegetarian, I don't suppose that I'll ever have
> the guilty pleasure again, but the memories will always be with me.
>
> "We'll always have Boone..."
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>   
Hey it's vegetarian, at least it's made from vegetarians, err. 
omnivores, oh hell you are what you eat so the base was originally made 
from vegetables.


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Re: New office

[David Savage]

Hahaha...you crack me up Bob.

I like the shot, lots of details to take in.

Cheers,

Dave



2008/9/20 Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The bank that I work for was sold rather suddenly this week to another
> bank. Things are happening quickly, and they've already allocated a
> nice new office to us IT people. Fortunately it's on a tram route:
> http://www.web-options.com/Office.jpg
>
> Bob

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Re: Sheep

[Ken Waller]

Nice captures all. I enjoyed looking !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sheep


> Bob, Bob, black sheep, have you any more? :-)  Great pics Bob.  I 
> especially
> like
>
> http://www.web-options.com/LBP/content/_9198722_large.html
> and
>
> http://www.web-options.com/LBP/content/_9198723_large.html
>
> Great fun here with these pictures, Bob.
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:11 PM
> Subject: Sheep
>
>
>>A colleague of mine is a Freeman of the City of London. One of the
>> traditional rights of the freemen is the right to drive sheep over
>> London Bridge, so this morning that's what they did. Alteratively,
>> they're all out of work as a result of the recent financial
>> shenanigans and this is the only way they can make a living now.
>>
>> I went along to take pictures. Unfortunately when it came turn for my
>> colleague the police had shepherded the unofficial photographers like
>> myself away, so I didn't get any decent close shots of him. Still,
>> hope you find these interesting.
>>
>> http://www.web-options.com/LBP/
>>
>> Little Bob Peep
>>
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Re: PESO -- Travis, Flower of Scotland

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Mike:  Congrats on the pay!  Looks like your friend is quite the 
character.  Nice portrait.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO -- Travis, Flower of Scotland


> http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/09/18/travis-flower-of-scotland/
>
> A rarity for me - photographs of an actual person.  Even rarer,
> earning some money for the photos!  A friend paid me to take some
> casual outdoor portraits of him.  It was a fun experience, with good
> results.
>
> Comments/Critiques welcome!
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Re: PESO -Wild, wild horses

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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: PESO -Wild, wild horses


> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Christine  Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ah, that's very nice, Doug.  Those horses look a lot better--healthier 
>> and
>> fatter-- than the wild horses I was able to see when in Nevada
>
> Probably lost all their money at the Flamingo, and had to eat gress.:-)

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Re: First Dance

[Christine Aguila]

Hi John:  Elegant, stylish, and creative.  Nice one!  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject: PESO: First Dance


> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=827
>
>>From 2005, the wedding of my brother CJ, whose birthday is today.  I'd 
>>never
> shot anything like this before and haven't since.  Didn't get the
> opportunity at my other brother's wedding, since the lighting and 
> background
> were crap, but since they're twins perhaps it doesn't matter?
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Re: Sheep

[Christine Aguila]

Bob, Bob, black sheep, have you any more? :-)  Great pics Bob.  I especially 
like

http://www.web-options.com/LBP/content/_9198722_large.html
and

http://www.web-options.com/LBP/content/_9198723_large.html

Great fun here with these pictures, Bob.
Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:11 PM
Subject: Sheep


>A colleague of mine is a Freeman of the City of London. One of the
> traditional rights of the freemen is the right to drive sheep over
> London Bridge, so this morning that's what they did. Alteratively,
> they're all out of work as a result of the recent financial
> shenanigans and this is the only way they can make a living now.
>
> I went along to take pictures. Unfortunately when it came turn for my
> colleague the police had shepherded the unofficial photographers like
> myself away, so I didn't get any decent close shots of him. Still,
> hope you find these interesting.
>
> http://www.web-options.com/LBP/
>
> Little Bob Peep
>
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Re: A nice surprise

[Christine Aguila]

Big congrats on the sale, Paul.  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 10:14 PM
Subject: A nice surprise


>A gallery that's been showing my work off and on for a few years sold
> an 18 x 12 print of one of my shots today for a rather nice price. I
> know it's this pic. I may have cloned out the lady in the rear on the
> print. I know I debated doing so. Don't remember if I did. But in any
> case, I'm pleased that the photo brought in some funds.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg
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Re: A nice surprise

[Ken Waller]

Way to go Paul !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A nice surprise


>A gallery that's been showing my work off and on for a few years sold  
> an 18 x 12 print of one of my shots today for a rather nice price. I  
> know it's this pic. I may have cloned out the lady in the rear on the  
> print. I know I debated doing so. Don't remember if I did. But in any  
> case, I'm pleased that the photo brought in some funds.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg


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Re: A nice surprise

[Brian Walters]

Congratulations, Paul.  That's a great pic.

I don't recall seeing it on PDML before and I'd be interested to see how
you managed to clone out the lady - doesn't seem to be anything obvious
that you could replace her with.



Cheers

Brian

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:14:05 -0400, "Paul Stenquist"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> A gallery that's been showing my work off and on for a few years sold  
> an 18 x 12 print of one of my shots today for a rather nice price. I  
> know it's this pic. I may have cloned out the lady in the rear on the  
> print. I know I debated doing so. Don't remember if I did. But in any  
> case, I'm pleased that the photo brought in some funds.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg
> 
> -- 

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Re: New office

[Joseph McAllister]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 18:09 , "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The bank that I work for was sold rather suddenly this week to another
> bank. Things are happening quickly, and they've already allocated a
> nice new office to us IT people. Fortunately it's on a tram route:
> http://www.web-options.com/Office.jpg
>
> Bob


The shot is sorta mundane, but as a caption writer, you excel.  :-)

Got a good chuckle out of it, Bob.

(Unless of course that is you new office, in which case I welcome you  
to the new neighborhood!)


Joseph McAllister
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Re: New office

[Subash]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:52:59 +0100
"Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The bank that I work for was sold rather suddenly this week to another
> bank. Things are happening quickly, and they've already allocated a
> nice new office to us IT people. Fortunately it's on a tram route:
> http://www.web-options.com/Office.jpg

a colleague's son is with lehman brothers, bombay. still waiting to see
if he has an office to go to at all. must be a little worse over
there...

and, funny that you need special rights to 'drive' sheep (cows, bulls,
buffaloes) over bridges and roads. :-)

regards, subash

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Re: DA 55-300

[Subash]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:00:35 -0400
Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Who has the 55-300?  Like it?

hi,

http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2008-July/132893.html

remember this becaue been wanting to buy one after reading this here but
the lens is not available (here). went for a 50-200 instead.. :-)

regards, subash

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Re: A nice surprise

[Paul Stenquist]

Yes, I've shown it here before. A couple of years ago I believe. I do  
have a version without the lady in my archives. But I don't recall  
what I printed. And I'll probably never know. But II will have the  
cash:-).
Paul
On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Think I remember this and how I saw it as a large print. Seems I  
> may have commented on your considering cloning out the lady at that  
> time. Believe I'd have tried either cloning or partially cropping.(?)
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Fri, 9/19/08, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: A nice surprise
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 8:14 PM
>> A gallery that's been showing my work off and on for a
>> few years sold
>> an 18 x 12 print of one of my shots today for a rather nice
>> price. I
>> know it's this pic. I may have cloned out the lady in
>> the rear on the
>> print. I know I debated doing so. Don't remember if I
>> did. But in any
>> case, I'm pleased that the photo brought in some funds.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg
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Re: A nice surprise

[Jack Davis]

Think I remember this and how I saw it as a large print. Seems I may have 
commented on your considering cloning out the lady at that time. Believe I'd 
have tried either cloning or partially cropping.(?)

Jack


--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: A nice surprise
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 8:14 PM
> A gallery that's been showing my work off and on for a
> few years sold  
> an 18 x 12 print of one of my shots today for a rather nice
> price. I  
> know it's this pic. I may have cloned out the lady in
> the rear on the  
> print. I know I debated doing so. Don't remember if I
> did. But in any  
> case, I'm pleased that the photo brought in some funds.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6305554&size=lg
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Re: PESO: First Dance

[Jack Davis]

Uniquely impressive. Makes a strong statement.

Jack


--- On Fri, 9/19/08, John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: First Dance
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 6:09 PM
> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=827
> 
> >From 2005, the wedding of my brother CJ, whose birthday
> is today.  I'd never 
> shot anything like this before and haven't since. 
> Didn't get the 
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> lighting and background 
> were crap, but since they're twins perhaps it
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A nice surprise

[Paul Stenquist]

A gallery that's been showing my work off and on for a few years sold  
an 18 x 12 print of one of my shots today for a rather nice price. I  
know it's this pic. I may have cloned out the lady in the rear on the  
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Re: DA 55-300

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Read the Pop Photo SQF test data and was impressed by the numbers of that 
particular copy. Substantially better performance than other comparable range 
zooms as well as the DA*300 f/4 for example.
Tested in the the Oct. issue and included on their website.
None the less, I'm still waiting for the DA* 60~250. Maybe in '09.(?)

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Re: PESO: First Dance

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice image. Simple and expressive.
Paul
On Sep 19, 2008, at 9:09 PM, John Celio wrote:

> http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=827
>
>> From 2005, the wedding of my brother CJ, whose birthday is today.   
>> I'd never
> shot anything like this before and haven't since.  Didn't get the
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> background
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Re: New office

[Paul Stenquist]

Looks good, Bob. Do you get to use the van on weekends? You financial  
guys get all the perks.
Paul
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> The bank that I work for was sold rather suddenly this week to another
> bank. Things are happening quickly, and they've already allocated a
> nice new office to us IT people. Fortunately it's on a tram route:
> http://www.web-options.com/Office.jpg
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DA 55-300

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Who has the 55-300?  Like it?

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PESO: First Dance

[John Celio]

http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=827

>From 2005, the wedding of my brother CJ, whose birthday is today.  I'd never 
shot anything like this before and haven't since.  Didn't get the 
opportunity at my other brother's wedding, since the lighting and background 
were crap, but since they're twins perhaps it doesn't matter?

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Re: One for Mr. Ruskin

[Derby Chang]

Bob W wrote:
> Ruskin famously described Whistler's Nocturne In Black And Gold as a
> pot of paint thrown in the face of the public. But when you actually
> do that, I don't think it looks at all like Whistler, I think it looks
> like a lot of Pollock's.
>
> http://www.web-options.com/Pollock.jpg
>
> Bob
>
>
>   
Odd that Ruskin was also obsessed by Turner, whose technique quite 
resembled pot throwing at times.

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Re: New office

[Derby Chang]

Bob W wrote:
> The bank that I work for was sold rather suddenly this week to another
> bank. Things are happening quickly, and they've already allocated a
> nice new office to us IT people. Fortunately it's on a tram route:
> http://www.web-options.com/Office.jpg
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> Bob
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Congratulations. A window desk, _and_ off-street parking

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> It took me a while to work out what was wrong. Because the engine lost
> power momentarily and then seemed to get it back before stopping ...

Similar thing happened at the Manx Senior this year. I think it was a  
'Zuki led off down Bray Hill, lunched it's bottom end throwing a rod  
through the cases, but the bugger was still making enough power ...  
spraying oil like a fire truck sprays water, and running hard enough  
that it oiled the entire road three-quarters of a mile. They had to  
red flag the race (already a day and an hour or two delayed due to  
rain and fog), clean up the road and restart another hour or so later,  
reducing the number of laps from 4 to 2.

The rider was only really aware of what had happened as the motor  
seized up, out of oil, at the end of that. Quite a mess ...

Godfrey

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Yes, almost certainly a dropped valve. Many years ago I worked as an  
> engine builder for fuel funny cars. When an engine dropped a valve,  
> it disintegrated, sometimes blowing the cars body apart. Of course  
> that was due to the fact that the intake manifold above the valve  
> contained a litre or so of nitromethane pressurized at about 50 psi.  
> When things go wrong in an internal combustion engine, bad things  
> happen.

It took me a while to work out what was wrong. Because the engine lost 
power momentarily and then seemed to get it back before stopping, I 
thought it was an electrical problem at first: Then engine stopped when 
I pulled in the clutch (fortunately) and I didn't find out it had 
actually seized up until back at the paddock. After various atteempts to 
get it started failed I took off an engine side cover and discovered the 
crank wouldn't turn :(

It was then that my friend Tommy D gave me some good advice that I'll 
always remember: "If it's a catastrophic failure -- and it looks like it 
is -- my advice is: There's a big pot of spaghetti in the motorhome. Go 
Have some spaghetti."

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New office

[Bob W]

The bank that I work for was sold rather suddenly this week to another
bank. Things are happening quickly, and they've already allocated a
nice new office to us IT people. Fortunately it's on a tram route:
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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Paul Stenquist]

Yes, almost certainly a dropped valve. Many years ago I worked as an  
engine builder for fuel funny cars. When an engine dropped a valve,  
it disintegrated, sometimes blowing the cars body apart. Of course  
that was due to the fact that the intake manifold above the valve  
contained a litre or so of nitromethane pressurized at about 50 psi.  
When things go wrong in an internal combustion engine, bad things  
happen.
Paul
On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

> Seen this before. It's the result of a piston trying to ingest a valve
> that has dropped down into the combustion chamber at high rpm.
>
> Joseph McAllister
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> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:52 , "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Running the engine too lean will do this to aluminum pistons.
>>
>> Maxime Thériault wrote:
>>> What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost
>>> impossible that a
>>> gas explosion would do this.
>>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Mark
>>> Roberts
>>>
>>> Charles Robinson wrote:
>>>
 On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:


> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
>> 
>> Funny how little they've changed over the years.
>>
> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be
> so
> similar over that period of time, would they?
>
>
 I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?

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RE: Sheep

[Bob W]

Yes, but in all fairness we were wandering around all over a very busy
road and it would have been quite easy for someone to get hit by a
bus.

Bob 

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> I'm surprised that the police can shepherd unofficial photographers

> away. Isn't it a public venue?
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Re: Sheep

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Some nice shots in spite of the police. Good work.
I'm surprised that the police can shepherd unofficial photographers  
away. Isn't it a public venue?
Paul
On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Bob W wrote:

> A colleague of mine is a Freeman of the City of London. One of the
> traditional rights of the freemen is the right to drive sheep over
> London Bridge, so this morning that's what they did. Alteratively,
> they're all out of work as a result of the recent financial
> shenanigans and this is the only way they can make a living now.
>
> I went along to take pictures. Unfortunately when it came turn for my
> colleague the police had shepherded the unofficial photographers like
> myself away, so I didn't get any decent close shots of him. Still,
> hope you find these interesting.
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> http://www.web-options.com/LBP/
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Re: GESO (semi-OT): Lunatic...

[Brian Walters]

Ah, wonderful to see what results when a few fruitcakes are allowed
out.

Fun stuff, Bong.



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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:02:11 +0800, "Bong Manayon"
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> Another Pentaxian (in Texas) & I started this group in Flickr...look
> what we pulled out of the woodwork...
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/lunatic_fringe/
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Re: One for Mr. Ruskin

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Are you sure that shouldn't be "a *load* of Pollocks" (no apostrophe)

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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:54:00 +0100, "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Ruskin famously described Whistler's Nocturne In Black And Gold as a
> pot of paint thrown in the face of the public. But when you actually
> do that, I don't think it looks at all like Whistler, I think it looks
> like a lot of Pollock's.
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/Pollock.jpg
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Re: Sheep

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Great series, Little Bob.  I smiled all the way through.

As I worked though I wondered whether anyone would do the, er, 'cleaning
up'.  Of course, the last image answered that.


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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:11:35 +0100, "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> A colleague of mine is a Freeman of the City of London. One of the
> traditional rights of the freemen is the right to drive sheep over
> London Bridge, so this morning that's what they did. Alteratively,
> they're all out of work as a result of the recent financial
> shenanigans and this is the only way they can make a living now.
> 
> I went along to take pictures. Unfortunately when it came turn for my
> colleague the police had shepherded the unofficial photographers like
> myself away, so I didn't get any decent close shots of him. Still,
> hope you find these interesting.
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/LBP/
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Re: Weddings and such.

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frank theriault wrote:
> Mind you, I noticed the smoke as I peered through the steam rising off
> my plate of biscuits and gravy (something we don't have in The Great
> White North, I'm afraid).  Man they tasted good!

They don't taste right without the smoke.

Every once in a while I'll wander into some greasy spoon and the smell 
of cigarettes, coffee and bacon will have just the right blend and bring 
me instantly back to my Grandmother's kitchen.  She passed away in '87. 
  I've always found it amazing how smells can trigger that sort of thing.

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Joseph McAllister]

Seen this before. It's the result of a piston trying to ingest a valve  
that has dropped down into the combustion chamber at high rpm.

Joseph McAllister
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On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:52 , "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Running the engine too lean will do this to aluminum pistons.
>
> Maxime Thériault wrote:
>> What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost  
>> impossible that a
>> gas explosion would do this.
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
>> Behalf Of Mark
>> Roberts
>>
>> Charles Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller  
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

> 
> Funny how little they've changed over the years.
>
 I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be  
 so
 similar over that period of time, would they?


>>> I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?
>>>
>>
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg

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Sheep

[Bob W]

A colleague of mine is a Freeman of the City of London. One of the
traditional rights of the freemen is the right to drive sheep over
London Bridge, so this morning that's what they did. Alteratively,
they're all out of work as a result of the recent financial
shenanigans and this is the only way they can make a living now.

I went along to take pictures. Unfortunately when it came turn for my
colleague the police had shepherded the unofficial photographers like
myself away, so I didn't get any decent close shots of him. Still,
hope you find these interesting.

http://www.web-options.com/LBP/

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Re: One for Mr. Ruskin

[Doug Franklin]

Bob W wrote:
> Ruskin famously described Whistler's Nocturne In Black And Gold as a
> pot of paint thrown in the face of the public. But when you actually
> do that, I don't think it looks at all like Whistler, I think it looks
> like a lot of Pollock's.
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/Pollock.jpg

I'd say Nocturne is more like an old, moldy, mildewy canvas upon which a 
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Re: Weddings and such.

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frank theriault wrote:

> Well, I've only had biscuits and gravy when I've been down to GFM, so
> that's what, three trips now?  Anyway, the gravy certainly didn't
> taste like mushroom soup.  It ~was~ quite delicious, but it was
> ~rich~!!  I've never tasted anything quite like it.

Yeah, it's /way/ rich.  Think of it this way, it's part of what farmers 
ate at o-dawn-thirty to keep them going until lunchtime.  There's really 
not much to it, IIRC, but I never learned to make brown or red eye gravy 
(or any other).  Brown gravy was more common around our (grandparents') 
houses.  I /had/ to learn to make biscuits from scratch before I moved 
out of my parents house, though.  I'd've died without fresh scratch 
biscuits.  As sort of an inside joke, my dad's family gave me her 
rolling pin (an old bottle) and biscuit cutters (she never used) from 
her estate.

> Having since turned vegetarian, I don't suppose that I'll ever have
> the guilty pleasure again, but the memories will always be with me.

You can always /choose/ to take a short vacation from vegetarianism, 
too. ;-)

> "We'll always have Boone..."
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One for Mr. Ruskin

[Bob W]

Ruskin famously described Whistler's Nocturne In Black And Gold as a
pot of paint thrown in the face of the public. But when you actually
do that, I don't think it looks at all like Whistler, I think it looks
like a lot of Pollock's.

http://www.web-options.com/Pollock.jpg

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Re: Weddings and such.

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On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Doug Franklin
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> Though I'm not much of a fan of country gravy, I have to agree with PJ
> on this one.  It bears not even a passing resemblance to mushroom soup,
> if the gravy and the soup were made correctly.  And hand-thrown cathead
> biscuits are just leagues better than any scone out there. :-)

Well, I've only had biscuits and gravy when I've been down to GFM, so
that's what, three trips now?  Anyway, the gravy certainly didn't
taste like mushroom soup.  It ~was~ quite delicious, but it was
~rich~!!  I've never tasted anything quite like it.

Having since turned vegetarian, I don't suppose that I'll ever have
the guilty pleasure again, but the memories will always be with me.

"We'll always have Boone..."

;-)

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Re: Weddings and such.

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P. J. Alling wrote:

> If you think "country gravy" has any relationship to "mushroom soup", 
> besides both, supposedly, being food stuffs,  you've not had country 
> gravy, nor would you be likely to long survive encounter ...

Though I'm not much of a fan of country gravy, I have to agree with PJ 
on this one.  It bears not even a passing resemblance to mushroom soup, 
if the gravy and the soup were made correctly.  And hand-thrown cathead 
biscuits are just leagues better than any scone out there. :-)

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RE: PESO - Spark plugs

[Maxime Thériault]

You must have clutched pretty quick if you're here to tell the tale. Dang
those bikes sure put out a lot of power.

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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:32 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Spark plugs

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Maxime Thériault wrote:
 >
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg
> 
>> What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost  
>> impossible that a gas explosion would do this.
> 
> That's usually what happens when a valve breaks and falls into the  
> combustion chamber, although detonation can cause a piston to melt and  
> look similar.

The story: In 1993 I put together a team to ride the last motorcycle 
24-hour endurance race to be held at the (in)famous Nelson Ledges road 
course (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2004/jul/onthisweek10.htm). We 
rode my Yamaha FZR400 and did very well under brutally hot conditions, 
taking 3rd place in the 600cc class (because they'd eliminated the 
lightweight class). The following spring I rebuilt the engine (running 
at/near redline for the best part of 24 hours is pretty taxing on both 
man and machine!) but, because I was coming off a long bout of 
unemployment, I was almost broke. I did all the work myself, putting in 
pistons, rings, main and rod bearings. I just didn't have enough money 
to put in new valve springs. I thought I could put it off for a race or 
two. The photo shows how wrong I was!


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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[Adam Maas]

My frank opinion is the K200D was already cut down enough for that
pricepoint, it was just sold for too much money, If anything losing
the weather sealing and dropping the price to a competitive point in
most markets would have made more sense (Of course, if the K-m is
exactly that with a couple other minor changes, good for Pentax, they
simply haven't been a presence in the low-end market for the last 9
months).

I don't mind the loss of the top display (I don't find them terribly
useful compared to a well laid out rear display. Sony and Oly have got
it right here)

The 15/4 Limited is a very good idea. The rest are bloody obvious
launches, but it's nice to see them.

-Adam

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:35 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like they lost the top data display panel on, (put the mode dial
> there), on the K-m.   Some will be pleased. I'm not, too many things are
> already in menus on the back display, but it should be cheaper.  That
> 15mm looks tasty.
>
> Thibouille wrote:
>> Look here:
>> http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/bd74a536a1.jpg
>>
>> * K-m:
>> No full specs for now but probably same 10Mpix CCD as K10D/K200D.
>> Price 500 eurso with kit lens, 600 euros in dual kit.
>>
>> * 60-250 finished and released
>> The lens will be selected trading partners before Christmas available.
>> The price is 1,299, - euro.
>>
>> * DA * 55 mm / 1.4 SDM
>> Lens is selected trading partners before Christmas available. The
>> price for this recommendation is 549, - Euro.
>>
>> * AF160FC (PTTL ring flash)
>> it will be before Christmas, with most traders still be available
>> before Christmas. The price is 399 Euro.
>>
>> * kit lenses:
>> Seems they will be produced with plastic mounts as well as metal (look
>> at the bottom of the image).
>>
>> * New roadmap
>> Nothing earthshattering but since they had a couple delays, they'd
>> better not announce loads of things they can't manage. It's better
>> like that.
>>
>> Included in the roadmap but with image of the lenses as well (again,
>> bottom of the image)
>> -->  DA 15/4 ED AL LimitedSeems very small for a 15mm...  Well done 
>> Pentax !
>> --> Rear Converter DA 1.4x SDM
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Mark Roberts]

Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 15:32, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>  I just didn't have enough money
>> to put in new valve springs. I thought I could put it off for a race  
>> or two. The photo shows how wrong I was!
> 
> Lordy.  That must have made one hell of a racket when it happened.   
> Ouch.

I never heard a thing. Just had a momentary loss of power and then the 
motor locked up solid - fortunately in the slowest part of the track 
(Summit Point), between turn 5 and the carousel. I like to think what 
the result might have been if it had locked up at the end of the (3000m 
long) front straight...

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 15:32, Mark Roberts wrote:
>  I just didn't have enough money
> to put in new valve springs. I thought I could put it off for a race  
> or
> two. The photo shows how wrong I was!
>

Lordy.  That must have made one hell of a racket when it happened.   
Ouch.

  -Charles

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Maxime Thériault wrote:
 >
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg
> 
>> What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost  
>> impossible that a gas explosion would do this.
> 
> That's usually what happens when a valve breaks and falls into the  
> combustion chamber, although detonation can cause a piston to melt and  
> look similar.

The story: In 1993 I put together a team to ride the last motorcycle 
24-hour endurance race to be held at the (in)famous Nelson Ledges road 
course (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2004/jul/onthisweek10.htm). We 
rode my Yamaha FZR400 and did very well under brutally hot conditions, 
taking 3rd place in the 600cc class (because they'd eliminated the 
lightweight class). The following spring I rebuilt the engine (running 
at/near redline for the best part of 24 hours is pretty taxing on both 
man and machine!) but, because I was coming off a long bout of 
unemployment, I was almost broke. I did all the work myself, putting in 
pistons, rings, main and rod bearings. I just didn't have enough money 
to put in new valve springs. I thought I could put it off for a race or 
two. The photo shows how wrong I was!


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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 14:21, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Charles Robinson wrote:
>>
>> I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg
>

Wow.

How'd you do THAT?

  -Charles

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Re: OT Nikon Capture NX2

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 11:02 AM, David Savage wrote:
>> One major omission in my opinion is no support for ProPhoto RGB.
>
> Apparently that can be added.

That's good to hear, but why wouldn't they include it with the  
package? ProPhoto RGB has been around for quite some while now and is  
the best colorspace to edit in with digital capture images,  
particularly RAW captures.

But enough ... NX2 is not a tool that I would use, although testing it  
I was impressed that it was better than I'd expected. It doesn't do  
what I want/need as well as LR2, nor does it support the RAW files I  
need to manage and edit.

Godfrey

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Re: Pentax, (Hoya actually), moves all camera and camera lens manufacturing offshore.

[jtainter]

P.J. wrote:

Looks like no more "Made in Japan" lenses.  The end of an era.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=aobIn0QQFaA4&refer=japan

-

If the FA limiteds continue in production, I guess this means that they will be 
assembled at that troubled Hanoi plant. If you want a good one, buy it now 
while the made-in-Japan ones are still available. Or maybe the FA limiteds will 
just be discontinued.

I don't know what this means for the FA 35 F2.0 and the FA 50 F1.4. Will they 
be discontinued, or produced in Vietnam?

This may be the end of the line for made-to-order copies of the FA* 300 F2.8 
and FA* 600 F4, unless those too will be assembled by Nguyen.

Joe



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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Mark Roberts]

Maxime Thériault wrote:
> 
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg
> 
> What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost impossible that a
> gas explosion would do this.

A valve spring failure and subsequent dropped valve at 14,000 rpm will 
do it, though!



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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Maxime Thériault wrote:

> Charles Robinson wrote:
>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
 
 Funny how little they've changed over the years.
>>> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
>>> similar over that period of time, would they?
>>>
>>
>> I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg

> What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost  
> impossible that a
> gas explosion would do this.
>

That's usually what happens when a valve breaks and falls into the  
combustion chamber, although detonation can cause a piston to melt and  
look similar.

G




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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[P. J. Alling]

Running the engine too lean will do this to aluminum pistons.

Maxime Thériault wrote:
> What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost impossible that a
> gas explosion would do this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark
> Roberts
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 3:21 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO - Spark plugs
>
> Charles Robinson wrote:
>   
>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>   
 
 Funny how little they've changed over the years.
 
>>> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
>>> similar over that period of time, would they?
>>>
>>>   
>> I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?
>> 
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg
>
>
>
>   


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Pentax, (Hoya actually), moves all camera and camera lens manufacturing offshore.

[P. J. Alling]

Looks like no more "Made in Japan" lenses.  The end of an era.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=aobIn0QQFaA4&refer=japan

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RE: PESO - Spark plugs

[Maxime Thériault]

What's the story behind this? Do you know? It seems almost impossible that a
gas explosion would do this.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 3:21 PM
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Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Funny how little they've changed over the years.
>> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
>> similar over that period of time, would they?
>>
> 
> I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg



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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[P. J. Alling]

I think I've found the problem sir...

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Charles Robinson wrote:
>   
>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>   
 
 Funny how little they've changed over the years.
 
>>> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
>>> similar over that period of time, would they?
>>>
>>>   
>> I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?
>> 
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg
>
>
>   


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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Mark Roberts]

Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Funny how little they've changed over the years.
>> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
>> similar over that period of time, would they?
>>
> 
> I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/piston.jpg


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Re: PESO - "Sunny Seney Morning"

[Ken Waller]

Thanks to all who took the time to look & comment.

+ Brian asked "Perhaps cropped a bit tight at the top?  Or maybe it could be 
cropped a
bit more on the bottom"
-- I was trying to minimize the blank sky & cropping more off the bottom 
will eliminate some of the reeds or tree.

+ Derby stated --"That makes my twitchy bits calm and restful"
-- Glad I could help your bits be calm & restful !

+ Paul said --"What Jack said. I love seeing your UP pics. Makes me want to 
get in
the car and head north".
-- Its only a 3 to 4 hour trip !

+ Cory says he has a "New desktop on my work PC" - I'm honored - enjoy!


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
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> Absolutely love it!
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:40:10 PM, you wrote:
>
> KW> Please check out
> KW> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
>
> KW> More from my recent U P week.
>
> KW> Taken with a K20D, 70-210mm F, 1/15 @f11, 200 ISO.
>
> KW> Coments appreciated
> KW> Thanks in advance for looking
>
> KW> Kenneth Waller
> KW> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
>
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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:43, frank theriault wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>> 
>> Funny how little they've changed over the years.
>
> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
> similar over that period of time, would they?
>

I dunno... a piston's a piston, innit?

I forgot to mention: Nice picture.  I liked it.

  -Charles

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Re: PESO: It's never too early to have a Pentax SLR... :)

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Timber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was organizing my stuff and my younger daughter, Édua asked for her
> sister's Pentax ME :) Then she did what she saw from his father :)
> Raising the camera to her eyes :) She was really cute ;)
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2870053501_e8f82f4c38_o.jpg
>
> Cheers,
> Timber

The ME was a cute little camera, but you're daughter is cuter!

;-)

Fun picture!

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:50 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or 500,000 years if you want to believe...
>
> http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/article_images/2007-1-14-prehist-08.jpg

Those ancients weren't so advanced at all.

Look at photo C.  It's clearly the filter basket from a coffee percolator.

Percs make the worst coffee ever.  Sure, they're convenient, but if
the ancients knew anything at all, they'd have known that the best
coffee is from either a cone filter or a French press.

cheers,
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Re: OT Nikon Capture NX2

[David Savage]

2008/9/20 Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>One major omission in my opinion is no support for ProPhoto
> RGB.

Apparently that can be added.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: It's never too early to have a Pentax SLR... :)

[Timber]

Timber wrote:
> I was organizing my stuff and my younger daughter, Édua asked for her 
> sister's Pentax ME :) Then she did what she saw from his father :) 
> Raising the camera to her eyes :) She was really cute ;)
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2870053501_e8f82f4c38_o.jpg
>
> Cheers,
> Timber
>
>   
Sorry for double send... my wireless connection tricks me sometimes >.<

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[P. J. Alling]

Or 500,000 years if you want to believe...

http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/article_images/2007-1-14-prehist-08.jpg

description is about 1/2 way down this page

http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2007/2/8/82470.html

frank theriault wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> 
>> Funny how little they've changed over the years.
>> 
>
> I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
> similar over that period of time, would they?
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>   


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PESO: It's never too early to have a Pentax SLR... :)

[Timber]

I was organizing my stuff and my younger daughter, Édua asked for her 
sister's Pentax ME :) Then she did what she saw from his father :) 
Raising the camera to her eyes :) She was really cute ;)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2870053501_e8f82f4c38_o.jpg

Cheers,
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PESO: It's never too early to have a Pentax SLR... :)

[Timber]

I was organizing my stuff and my younger daughter, Édua asked for her 
sister's Pentax ME :) Then she did what she saw from his father :) 
Raising the camera to her eyes :) She was really cute ;)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2870053501_e8f82f4c38_o.jpg

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Funny how little they've changed over the years.

I was thinking the same thing.  Not many other car parts would be so
similar over that period of time, would they?

cheers,
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Re: Weddings and such.

[P. J. Alling]

David J Brooks wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:41 AM, frank theriault
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Doug Franklin
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> frank theriault wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Mind you, I noticed the smoke as I peered through the steam rising off
 my plate of biscuits and gravy (something we don't have in The Great
 White North, I'm afraid).  Man they tasted good!  I suspect, however
 that a steady diet of those things would clog the arteries in about
 six months (although one young lady was telling us that she had them
 every single morning, and she seemed quite healthy...).
 
>>> If you grow up with it down here, your body learns how to process the
>>> cholesterol and stuff. ;-)
>>>   
>> I never thought of that.  Ya gotta start 'em young, I guess...
>> 
>
> Just can't get my head around putting mushroom soup on a bun for breakfast.
>
> But, I'll try it again, next time i'm down. Hopefully Norms not there
> and i can put a wuzzy spoon full on.:-)
>
> Dave
>   
If you think "country gravy" has any relationship to "mushroom soup", 
besides both, supposedly, being food stuffs,  you've not had country 
gravy, nor would you be likely to long survive encounter ...
>> ;-)
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[Ken Waller]

Nice documentary shot. Thanks for posting, I've never seen these before. 
Funny how little they've changed over the years.

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From: "Paul Sorenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO - Spark plugs


> Product shot of sorts...all that's left of a Model-A Ford that I
> shouldn't have sold.  Four spark plugs, NIB.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm
>
> MZ-S, Tamron 28-200, Alien Bees strobe w/shoot-through umbrella and a
> cheap reflector.  Film was probably Portra NC.
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Re: OT Yaarrr!!

[P. J. Alling]

Pirate ships were more or less democracies, with captains elected by 
their crews and booty regularly shared.  Better than the life of a 
British Tar who lived with "The Finest Traditions of the English Navy; 
Rum, Sodomy and the Lash".*


* Which Winston Churchill denied having said with the deceleration "I 
wish I had..."


frank theriault wrote:
> Avast.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> ps:  Actually, the pirate's life must have been one of the most
> miserable one can imagine.  Being a sailor back then would have
> miserable - scurvy, keelhauling, violence, hardtack, bad water, all
> that stuff.  Being a pirate would be all that and worse, I'd think.
>
> Nice to see it's being turned into a fun day for the kiddies...
>
> ;-)
>
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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[P. J. Alling]

Gone already, not leaked for long...

Thibouille wrote:
> Leaked specs from Amazon:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pentax-K-m-18-55-50-200mm-DAL/dp/tech-data/B001F51422/ref=de_a_smtd/202-5580999-7005411
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Re: OT Test your Colour IQ

[Boris Liberman]

I tried once. Got 19 and I ain't gonna do it again. My eyes are tired now.

David Savage wrote:
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> 0 is a perfect score
> 
> I got 111
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Re: OT Yaarrr!!

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:38 PM, frank theriault
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> Avast.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> ps:  Actually, the pirate's life must have been one of the most
> miserable one can imagine.  Being a sailor back then would have
> miserable - scurvy, keelhauling, violence, hardtack, bad water, all
> that stuff.  Being a pirate would be all that and worse, I'd think.

Ah, my survey days.

Kind a miss them once in a while

A
Dave
>
> Nice to see it's being turned into a fun day for the kiddies...
>
> ;-)
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Re: Weddings and such.

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:48 PM, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:42:23PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote:
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>> >> If you grow up with it down here, your body learns how to process the
>> >> cholesterol and stuff. ;-)
>> >
>> > I never thought of that.  Ya gotta start 'em young, I guess...
>>
>> Just can't get my head around putting mushroom soup on a bun for breakfast.
>
> Worse than that - it's mushroom soup on a scone.

Ack, I knew there was a word for them.

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Re: PESO - Spark plugs

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's fine as presented. My comment was meant to be facetious, and it
> was probably a waste of bandwidth:-).

Yes, but it was still a Ford.

Dave
> Paul
> On Sep 19, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>
>> Thanks...it does look not quite right in the pix.  I should have
>> rolled
>> it one hex away from me to show the gap better.  The C-4s are
>> gapped to
>> the side of the center electrode instead of over the top.
>>
>> -p
>>
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> Nice shot. But the plug in front is damaged -- no gap. That old Ford
>>> will never fire up:-).
>>> Paul
>>> On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>>>
 Product shot of sorts...all that's left of a Model-A Ford that I
 shouldn't have sold.  Four spark plugs, NIB.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm

 MZ-S, Tamron 28-200, Alien Bees strobe w/shoot-through umbrella
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Re: Weddings and such.

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On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:42:23PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:41 AM, frank theriault
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Doug Franklin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> frank theriault wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mind you, I noticed the smoke as I peered through the steam rising off
> >>> my plate of biscuits and gravy (something we don't have in The Great
> >>> White North, I'm afraid).  Man they tasted good!  I suspect, however
> >>> that a steady diet of those things would clog the arteries in about
> >>> six months (although one young lady was telling us that she had them
> >>> every single morning, and she seemed quite healthy...).
> >>
> >> If you grow up with it down here, your body learns how to process the
> >> cholesterol and stuff. ;-)
> >
> > I never thought of that.  Ya gotta start 'em young, I guess...
> 
> Just can't get my head around putting mushroom soup on a bun for breakfast.

Worse than that - it's mushroom soup on a scone.


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Re: Rubiks' Cubes (assorted)

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:28 AM, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/09/18 Thu PM 10:52:54 GMT
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Subject: Re: Rubiks' Cubes (assorted)
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On 18/9/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> >
>> >>Here's a selection of Rubik's cubes:
>> >>
>> >>http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/rubiks.jpg
>> >>
>> >>The one in the front is easy enough even for Cotty :-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I would dispute that. Here is one I can *just about* cope with, but not
>> > for long:
>> >
>> > 
>>
>> The red should be on the bottom.
>
> How did you know that about Cotty?  You just made GFM seem somewhat less 
> enticing.

No, just hang around long enough to watch him take macros for the
photo contest, 3 minutes before deadline.

We laughed and laughed.

Then he threw a beer at my ibook.:-)

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Re: OT Nikon Capture NX2

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Adam,

So your comments piqued my interest and led me to take a look at  
Capture NX2. I downloaded and installed it on my PowerBook G4 15" and  
have gone through the reference manual. I went through several JPG and  
TIFF files, and had a friend with a Nikon D300 send me a couple of NEF  
files (a couple each taken at ISO 200, 400, 1600, 3200 in two  
different kinds of lighting). I processed the NEF examples in LR2  
first, then in NX2.

NX2 is pretty good ... performance is actually decent on this old  
single processor system. I wouldn't say that I'm expert in its use by  
any means, but I can get around in it without too much difficulty. I  
read up on the Control Point stuff and played with it. Cute but  
there's little there that I cannot do in LR2, more easily at present  
since I know it better. I don't see that its editing capabilities as  
being that much different, really, although the UI is very different.  
It has a couple of niceties, LR2 has others. I also don't see that it  
does all that much different a job on the NEF RAW conversion, even at  
ISO 3200. One major omission in my opinion is no support for ProPhoto  
RGB.

But no image management, no off-line image location services, simple  
printing without templates, only NEF RAW support, no DNG support, etc  
etc.

One of the things I did like which I wish LR2 had was the ability to  
set a couple of watch points and see in numbers how adjustments affect  
them. I can see the numbers in LR2 very easily, but it's always  
dynamic and moves with the mouse. I'll send in a feature enhancement  
request ... i think that's occasionally a useful tool.

Godfrey



On Sep 18, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>
> On Sep 18, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> I've used LR2 enough to get a good idea of the how capable the
>> selective editing controls were (A very nice upgrade over LR1, but  
>> not
>> nearly as capable as NX2 or PS). I didn't compare the high ISO NR  
>> when
>> I was doing so.
>>
>> While CaptureNX2 can't do many things PS can do, it can do some very
>> interesting things with selective editing that PS can't do unless you
>> buy one of the Nik plugins (which cost more than NX2 does). Nik's
>> Control Point system is very, very Nifty and makes a number of
>> selective edits far less painful than they would be with layer masks
>> or lassos.
>
> I'll have to look at the Control Point stuff you're talking about. I  
> don't use any plugins at present ... I've never found them to be of  
> much real value to me.
>
> My actual editing needs are pretty light. I find that if I get the  
> exposure right I rarely need more than a little crop and rotate,  
> then some modest tonal adjustments. I don't use much of what you and  
> others seem to call high ISO ... high ISO to me is ISO 400 where  
> what people here seem to regard as high is stratospheric to me ...  
> so noise reduction isn't an issue when I've got proper exposure. My  
> need for selective editing is beautifully addressed by the LR2 brush  
> tool overall, it's very similar to what I do in PS with adjustment  
> layers, masks and the brush.
>
>> I still have to use PS for some things, most notably the clone stamp.
>
> Most of what I need PS for nowadays are those occasions when I have  
> to do overlays, profile conversions for print services (and  
> associated soft-proofing/gamut checking), and such stuff like that.  
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Re: Weddings and such.

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:41 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Doug Franklin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> frank theriault wrote:
>>
>>> Mind you, I noticed the smoke as I peered through the steam rising off
>>> my plate of biscuits and gravy (something we don't have in The Great
>>> White North, I'm afraid).  Man they tasted good!  I suspect, however
>>> that a steady diet of those things would clog the arteries in about
>>> six months (although one young lady was telling us that she had them
>>> every single morning, and she seemed quite healthy...).
>>
>> If you grow up with it down here, your body learns how to process the
>> cholesterol and stuff. ;-)
>
> I never thought of that.  Ya gotta start 'em young, I guess...

Just can't get my head around putting mushroom soup on a bun for breakfast.

But, I'll try it again, next time i'm down. Hopefully Norms not there
and i can put a wuzzy spoon full on.:-)

Dave
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> ;-)
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Re: PESO -Wild, wild horses

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, that's very nice, Doug.  Those horses look a lot better--healthier and
> fatter-- than the wild horses I was able to see when in Nevada

Probably lost all their money at the Flamingo, and had to eat gress.:-)

Dave


some . . .
> (lots of) years back while traveling with my cousin, a bull rider in the
> PRC.  When I get those photos scanned, I'll maybe post them some day.
> Anyway, lovely, lovely picture you made there. Evoked lots of  sweet
> memories.  Big cheers, Christine
>
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>> http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=595
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Re: OT Yaarrr!!

[frank theriault]

Avast.

cheers,
frank

ps:  Actually, the pirate's life must have been one of the most
miserable one can imagine.  Being a sailor back then would have
miserable - scurvy, keelhauling, violence, hardtack, bad water, all
that stuff.  Being a pirate would be all that and worse, I'd think.

Nice to see it's being turned into a fun day for the kiddies...

;-)

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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[Sandy Harris]

Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree, but it's a big hill to climb for them.  They need to make a
> high end camera and then get enough highly visible photographers to use
> it in order for it to be seen.  I wonder if Hoya is willing to invest
> that kind of money up front.

I wonder if Samsung is. They are big enough they could likely
buy Hoya. I doubt they'd do that, but they might make an offer
for the Pentax camera division, leaving Hoya the endoscopes.

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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[Steve Desjardins]

I agree, but it's a big hill to climb for them.  They need to make a
high end camera and then get enough highly visible photographers to use
it in order for it to be seen.  I wonder if Hoya is willing to invest
that kind of money up front.

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>>> Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/19/2008 11:07 AM >>>
Steve Desjardins wrote:
> This is always the problem.  Folks on this list want the high end
> cameras and all the money is made on the low end ones.

What's always the problem is Pentax assuming that because all the money

is made on low end cameras, all you need to build are low end cameras:

You need a high end camera to impress newbies into buying your low end

cameras. The 1Ds mkIII is almost as much a marketing tool for the
Rebels 
as it is a photographic instrument.

In all seriousness, I think Pentax has learned this lesson, but it took

them a while. I also suspect the Nikon D700 and Sony A900 have probably

killed off Pentax's planned high end APS-C camera and we'll have to
wait 
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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[Thibouille]

Indeed they pulled it off.
I will send a backup URL ASAP.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All I got was:
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>> Leaked specs from Amazon:
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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[Daniel J. Matyola]

All I got was:

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> Leaked specs from Amazon:
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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[Thibouille]

Leaked specs from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pentax-K-m-18-55-50-200mm-DAL/dp/tech-data/B001F51422/ref=de_a_smtd/202-5580999-7005411

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FS Friday: Sigma 300 countdown...

[Mark Roberts]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sigma-EX-300mm-f-2-8-APO-Super-AF-Telephoto-for-Pentax_W0QQitemZ220280882894QQihZ012QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Auction ends this evening (and the reserve price is just $1500.00)...




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Re: PESO - Patiently Waiting

[Charles Robinson]

On Sep 19, 2008, at 9:01, frank theriault wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>>> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/patiently-waiting-in-davisville-yards.html
>
>> Cool photo, Frank.
>> Next time you're down this way (or I'm up there), remind me to show  
>> you
>> how to use the Curves tool in Photoshop. That would help give this  
>> shot
>> a little more contrast.
>
> Thanks, Mark.
>
> I went into curves last night and dialed in a bit more contrast.  The
> original url (above) is the newer version with a bit more pop, and
> (for comparison's sake), here's the original bland version:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4qbk2z
>

Definitely more "pop" there... but it's a little more confusing now -  
the gravel/rocks are now so bright that it almost looks like the yard  
is covered in snow!

I don't know if that's good or bad, but that's how it struck me when I  
looked at it.  Take it for whatever it's worth.

  -Charles

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Re: It's a kitten!

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Bertil Holmberg
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> K-m :-)
>
> Regards,
> Bertil
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> PS Love the DA 15mm and the ring flash

url?

;-)

cheers,
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Re: Leak: Pentax K-m (yeah that's the new one) and other tidbits....

[Mark Roberts]

Steve Desjardins wrote:
> This is always the problem.  Folks on this list want the high end
> cameras and all the money is made on the low end ones.

What's always the problem is Pentax assuming that because all the money 
is made on low end cameras, all you need to build are low end cameras: 
You need a high end camera to impress newbies into buying your low end 
cameras. The 1Ds mkIII is almost as much a marketing tool for the Rebels 
as it is a photographic instrument.

In all seriousness, I think Pentax has learned this lesson, but it took 
them a while. I also suspect the Nikon D700 and Sony A900 have probably 
killed off Pentax's planned high end APS-C camera and we'll have to wait 
for the Samsung full-frame sensor to be ready.





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It's a kitten!

[Bertil Holmberg]

K-m :-)

Regards,
Bertil

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GESO (semi-OT): Lunatic...

[Bong Manayon]

Another Pentaxian (in Texas) & I started this group in Flickr...look
what we pulled out of the woodwork...

http://www.flickr.com/groups/lunatic_fringe/

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Re: PESO - Patiently Waiting

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice shot. Very dramatic.
Don't forget you can also use curves to brighten the midrange without  
changing your blacks or highlights. Just push the middle of the curve.
Paul
On Sep 19, 2008, at 10:01 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>>> http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2008/09/patiently-waiting- 
>>> in-davisville-yards.html
>
>> Cool photo, Frank.
>> Next time you're down this way (or I'm up there), remind me to  
>> show you
>> how to use the Curves tool in Photoshop. That would help give this  
>> shot
>> a little more contrast.
>
> Thanks, Mark.
>
> I went into curves last night and dialed in a bit more contrast.  The
> original url (above) is the newer version with a bit more pop, and
> (for comparison's sake), here's the original bland version:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4qbk2z
>
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SNOuPMquTNI/DJY/ 
> xL3c_VbA8js/s1600-h/sept_18_08+008.jpg
>
> Thanks for the suggestion and the comment!
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Patiently Waiting

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:56 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dave, Bob, Ann,

Thank you all for commenting!

cheers,
frank

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