RE: Big Thanks
From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com The fire side steroid party was a bit of a shock to me The what? Cheers, Christine don't think about it, Christine. Just bring your car keys. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
MTF charts
If graphs are the sort of thing that make your curve rise, you might be interested in the article on this Zeiss page about MTF charts, what they are and how to read them: http://www.zeiss.com/cln Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: MTF charts
Bob W wrote: If graphs are the sort of thing that make your curve rise, you might be interested in the article on this Zeiss page about MTF charts, what they are and how to read them: http://www.zeiss.com/cln Bob That's quite a lot more graspable than other explanations I've seen. Thanks for the link. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Thanks
One year only? Feels like you've been around longer than I have... Bong On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Everyone: A year ago today, I posted my 1st PESO. In that time I received a lot of encouragement and excellent feedback advice, so I just wanted to say thanks, and say I look forward to another fun year. If there's one thing I learned on this list, it's that the cormorant is a beautiful bird, no doubt about ;-). So thanks again. Big cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG is up
Christine, I think your shot is one the best. And I'm not being kind... Bong On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Great gallery! Thanks to Scott for his work. Best in show for me is Christine's Chicago Fog shot. Thanks, Bruce, and everyone else for their kind remarks. Big Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG is up
Let me add to the accolades for Christine's Chicago Fog. Superb. Lots of other excellent images there too. Honorable mentions to George's Solitary Tree under Clouds, Dag's 3+1, Henk's After the Battle and Matthew's Great Blue Heron. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:23:04 -0500, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com said: http://pug.komkon.org/ I suppose it helps if I actually upload the damn thing. Sorry about the tardiness. This is quite a nice gallery. Take a few minutes to peruse. You won't be sorry. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: White K2000 pics
Unfortunately for the climate modellers solar output went in the shitter with the current solar cycle and all of the common models assume a relatively stable solar output (since they're designed to model earth-based changes to the climate). Nobody except the historians have anything approaching an accurate idea of what's going to happen to the climate if the current solar cycle stays on its low-output course, or worse if the next Solar Cycle is similarly low). And the historical data presupposes a starting point distinctly warmer than 2006/2007 (The Medieval Optimum Period which ended between 1200 and 1250AD with the start of the Little Ice Age). whatever the causes of climate change, and whether it's good or bad overall, it does have some interesting side-effects and benefits: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7580294.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Printing from Lightroom
Thanks Godfrey. I;'ll print that out, when i am on the PC. I had sized the photo in develop mode, i think, then in print module, i set up the canvas size with the sliders. It worked for the 8x10, but when i did a 5x7 it only printed out as a 3x4 ish photo. I'll print out you guide and have it next to me for the next one. In PSCS2 i have a hard time getting my IR to print out as on screen, but i have found they print out very nicely in LR. Dave On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: On Dec 19, 2008, at 10:08 AM, David J Brooks wrote: My problem is still with gettin the right size print out. If using Lightroom ... --- A:: Set up the cropping proportion with the Crop tool in the Develop module. --- B:: Set up a print template in the Print module. - In the Print module, first go to the Template Browser and click on the Maximize Size template. - Then click on the Page Setup button ... set the printer, paper size and orientation. After that the Print Settings button, set up the printer specific parameters for how you want to print. *** Note that actual dimensions on paper drift a little depending on the particular printer and printer driver you use. I also find that using any of the borderless paper settings causes odd shifts and scalings in the actual printed dimensions with Epson and HP printers. The only way to be sure if you're striving for dimensional accuracy is to do a test print and see what the shifts are. *** Now you're ready to size the image onto that paper. On the right hand Print module palette, start at the top with the Layout Engine and work your way down the settings until you have everything set up the way you want your image to appear on the paper. - When you're done, go back to the Template Browser and click the '+' button, create and name a new template for printing that size image. - Now press the Print One or Print... button and make a print. In the future, you can apply this sizing information to *any* image file you choose by simply going to the Print module, click on that image in the FilmStrip at the bottom, then click on the template in the Template Browser. *** Note that if you choose a file that you haven't applied an 8x10 proportion crop to, and your image files are 2:3 or 3:4 proportion, the Print module will fit them to the template you choose based on the options you chose in the Image Settings panel, second from the top on the right. - Zoom to fill will auto crop them ... you can move the image around in the image cell on paper until you get it where you want it. - Rotate to Fit will do a best fit on the long axis. Leave both of them off and LR will fit the image to the template as best it can given both of the orientations and cropping setup you've defined. *** --- There are a few other subtleties ... watch for the interaction between what you set in the Print Settings dialog and the specifics of what you set in the Print Job panel on the lower right. - If you want to use the printer driver's color management controls, be sure you set the Print Job to printer settings. - If you want to use a color-managed print workflow using paper profiles, be sure to set No Color Management in the printer settings dialog, then configure and pick the correct paper profile for that printer in the Print Job settings. HTH Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Thanks
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like you've been here forever - and I mean that in a good way. You're a regular just as much as anyone else; the list wouldn't be the same without you. Agreed! You have to come to GFM. We could use a little less testosterone. I've lost 30 pounds, that should help. Dave -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: to clone or not to clone...
Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
Hi Bong Nicely composed portrait - you've captured their expressions well. If you hadn't mentioned it I probably wouldn't have noticed the A/C switch - now my eyes go straight to it! It doesn't really detract a lot from the image but it shouldn't be a difficult cloning job. I'd give it a go. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 20:09:11 +0800, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com said: Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Big Thanks
On 12/19/08, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: Your photos have improved exponentially over the last year. But if I were you I'd attribute that to something other than the PDML. ;-) MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Hanukah
Thanks Frank, I'm looking forward to the annual gathering of the family tomorrow. It's kind of like a bad episode of Seinfeld :) Norm frank theriault wrote: Well, it's been a crazy day here and I haven't had any time to spend on-list. We're in the middle of a snowstorm and I'm afraid my charges are having trouble biking in the snow with the inevitable delays and unhappy clients: Q Why's my package late? A Look out the window and take a guess... I'm rarely on the computer on the weekend, so I'd like to take this last opportunity before sundown on Sunday to wish everyone a Happy Hanukah. The last time I attempted latkas was a disaster, but we have a new vegan recipe that we're hoping might work... ;-) All the best, frank (who's not Jewish, but loves Jewish food) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
2008/12/19 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 4:43 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: snip For my part, I like Pentax tools. snip That's a punch line waiting for a joke to set it up. I just haven't come up with that joke yet. You mean like, Be careful what part of the body you apply them to? -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
2008/12/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: I don't want to switch brands, but if Pentax continues on the course they're presently on, I may not have a choice. If it does turn out that way, I ain't going quietly. You know, What I really don't understand is why Köningsegg can not make me a truck when I want one, and why Budweiser never can come up with a decent beer. So far I've gone quietly about this, but following your advice, I think I shall join the relevant forums and tell the world how those companies _should_ have done their business. Thanks for the inspiration. Not that I'll ever buy a Köeningsegg, or a Bud, for that matter, but it's the principle that count, of course. Both brands, which are respectable, and which I love, deserves the opportunity to satisfy me as a customer. And if they don't, well, then I have the irrevocable right, on every online forum I can find a domain name for, to bash them for whatever they do. Then I will go and join Doug Brewer's therapy group for excessive-compulsive use of commas. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
Clone. It will improve the photo. It's an easy one. Paul On Dec 20, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Hanukah
And the same to you Frank, Judy and every one else, celebrating at this time. Dave On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:54 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's been a crazy day here and I haven't had any time to spend on-list. We're in the middle of a snowstorm and I'm afraid my charges are having trouble biking in the snow with the inevitable delays and unhappy clients: Q Why's my package late? A Look out the window and take a guess... I'm rarely on the computer on the weekend, so I'd like to take this last opportunity before sundown on Sunday to wish everyone a Happy Hanukah. The last time I attempted latkas was a disaster, but we have a new vegan recipe that we're hoping might work... ;-) All the best, frank (who's not Jewish, but loves Jewish food) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG
Last night, my annual visit to the San Jose Christmas In The Park festival ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/178-thejuggler.jpg The Juggler - San Jose 2008 Panasonic G1 + ZD 25mm f/2.8 ISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/15 sec Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
Bong - the switch is hard to see (for me) ... but there is a little piece of fuzz or something at the very top of the frame -- I'd get rid of that... ann Bong Manayon wrote: Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
Yes, clone. If it's just rounded slightly by knocking off the upper right square corner if nothing else. The shadow shape would then be 'logical'. BTW, I agree with Ann, the lint thing must go. Incidently, nice work, Bong! Jack --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: to clone or not to clone... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 4:09 AM Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Shakespeare sucketh, yea, even like unto a Hoover
Oddly enough, Sir Bob, I've reached the first sonnet after about a 5 sec once my browser has opened the page. I liked Mark's lyrics though. I wonder how much squarer I've just become... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy holidays
I'd second that. In fact, according to my mail client, I'd be number 20 to reply this message. So, I'd twentieth that ;-). Boris Bill Owens wrote: Let me be the first to wish every PDML'er, regardless of their faith (or lack thereof) a joyous and happy holiday season and a healthful, happy and prosperous new year. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
Bong, this is one of these things that unless mentioned explicitly hardly gets noticed. As a matter of perfection, you might want to consider cloning it out. As a matter of real life photograph, I don't feel distracted by it even by the tiniest bit. Boris Bong Manayon wrote: Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Blood Red
Bloody good! Boris Jack Davis wrote: Just got home from driving my wife to her Audiologist's office. to pick up her repaired hearing aid. I waited in the car and while gazing around, spotted what I believe to be a Blood Red variety Japanese Maple growing up against the building's gray stucco siding. Lack of shadows and glare enhanced the look, so had to record it. (the bag of gadgets and a couple camera bodies were keeping me company while I waited). Jack Comments are welcome http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=364 K10D, FA 80x...@98mm, f/10, 1/60, ISO 400 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Rainy Manhattan food
Tim, you were definitely in the New York Frame of Mind or whatever the exact lyrics of that song by Billy Joel are. I visited the Big Apple back in 1994 and from your photos I gather that whatever changed is but a trifle. Boris Tim Bray wrote: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/12/05/-big/R0010907.jpg For a buncha other Manhattan-cliché shots, http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/12/05/Fuzzy-New-York I was traveling light, so these are the little Ricoh GX100. It's a honey, but damn, I wished I'd had the K20 along approximately every 15 minutes. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO(s) - Two UFO's for Frank
Marnie, I thought you quit smoking ages ago ;-). Boris eactiv...@aol.com wrote: WARNING: These are very bad photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lake Louise
PN Stenquist wrote: Gorgeous. Great pics. Paul What Paul said. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
I would not have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out. But now that you have pointed it out, I'd say get rid of it. I'm not normally one for hacking around with pictures, but in a case like this there is nothing dishonest about removing it, and it detracts from what is otherwise a lovely portrait for an important occasion. Bob -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bong Manayon Sent: 20 December 2008 12:09 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: to clone or not to clone... Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: to clone or not to clone...
Bong: I vote for clone. The portrait is beautiful, Bong! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:09 AM Subject: PESO: to clone or not to clone... Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
On Dec 20, 2008, at 7:54 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Then I will go and join Doug Brewer's therapy group for excessive-compulsive use of commas. :-) Jostein Admitting you have a problem is the first step. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG is up
Thanks Brian and Bong for your very kind remarks. Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:12 AM Subject: Re: December PUG is up Let me add to the accolades for Christine's Chicago Fog. Superb. Lots of other excellent images there too. Honorable mentions to George's Solitary Tree under Clouds, Dag's 3+1, Henk's After the Battle and Matthew's Great Blue Heron. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:23:04 -0500, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com said: http://pug.komkon.org/ I suppose it helps if I actually upload the damn thing. Sorry about the tardiness. This is quite a nice gallery. Take a few minutes to peruse. You won't be sorry. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Time Travel
Paul, I think our life experiences change as well. I look back now as a father or potential grandfather at these little babies. I think of my aunt behind the camera, recently married and within 1 year having her own daughter. It is what the picture shows and what it makes you think thru. It is time travel - to meet yourself as a child or your Aunt as a young adult. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: A bit late, but...there's a fascination in looking at old photos. It gives us a chance to remember folks who are gone, to reminisce about the past and somehow regain our youth. A photograph never grows old. You and I change, people change all through the months and years, but a photograph always remains the same. How nice to look at a photograph of Mother or Father taken many years ago. You see them as you remember them. But, as people live on, they change completely. That is why I think a photograph can be kind. Albert Einstein Bob Sullivan wrote: Rick, We went to my 93 year old aunt's funeral in Boston this weekend. We spent time with my cousin, her daughter, looking at old photos. There were no slides, but plenty of snapshots with old Brownie cameras. There was lots of trash, but some pearls too. I think we'll go back out this summer and shoot some copies. (This side of my family always did photos and I appreciate it now.) (I saw a little album of 5 or 6 - 2.5 inch square BW photos. I recognized myself at 6 years old, taken on a central Illinois farm. Also pictures of my brother at 1.5 years and my sister at 6 months on the same farm... all taken by my aunt on a hot day.) Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: My mother is having an (ahem) advanced birthday next week, and I went digging around for some old photos. Well, there are thousands and thousands of photos in this house, prints here, slides there, the negatives someplace else. Slides from about 1992 onwards are fairly systematically filed in slide pages in loose leaf notebooks, but there are still scads of prints and negs, because sometimes (for some reason) I shot print film. This reminded me that a key advantage of digital is that it is tidy. Instead of shoeboxes and closets and drawers full of photos, things are neatly stored on hard drives, catalogued by date in Lightroom. It also reminded me of a key disadvantage of digital. I pulled out slides and negs I shot in 1965, and they're a bit dusty and faded, but viewable with a light box and loupe, and printable. Will anybody be able to view my DNGs in 2051? Then there was the weird time travel of old family photos, and shots from old family vacations and holidays and homes. Makes me feel old. I think I'll go to bed. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
Actually, it's Admitting, you have a problem, is the first step. Doug d...@alphoto.com 12/20/2008 11:19 AM On Dec 20, 2008, at 7:54 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Then I will go and join Doug Brewer's therapy group for excessive-compulsive use of commas. :-) Jostein Admitting you have a problem is the first step. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:494d1b35182721254620162! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: testing the G1 ...
I hope the finder is better than the one on the Nikon Coolscan 5700. It was ok for static shots, but the delay caused it to be unusable for most action shots - push button and get a slightly different image than when you pushed button. Try shooting birds and kids with that ! It was a great camera, I really appreciated the articulated viewfinder for getting shots where I couldn't stick my head - like the underside of instrument panels and other situations where I could position the camera body and move the viewfinder so it could be viewed during image capture. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com Subject: Re: testing the G1 ... On Dec 19, 2008, at 10:25 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: There's no mistaking that it's an EVF ... you're looking at a video image rather than an optical image ... but it's very bright and easy to see, the resolution is 1.4Mpixel and the refresh is 60hz so it appears nearly as sharp as a good computer monitor. I assume thats in camera marketing-speak, making it fairly low res (in computer terms) at 800x600 or somesuch in reality? Or is it really a 1400x1050 res or somesuch? Approx 1400x1050 pixels resolution, yeah. It's a very sharp and clear viewfinder. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
I think I shall join the relevant forums and tell the world how those companies _should_ have done their business. Oh, you mean like the U. S governemnt? -- (notice no smiley) -- Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: White K2000 pics 2008/12/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: I don't want to switch brands, but if Pentax continues on the course they're presently on, I may not have a choice. If it does turn out that way, I ain't going quietly. You know, What I really don't understand is why Köningsegg can not make me a truck when I want one, and why Budweiser never can come up with a decent beer. So far I've gone quietly about this, but following your advice, I think I shall join the relevant forums and tell the world how those companies _should_ have done their business. Thanks for the inspiration. Not that I'll ever buy a Köeningsegg, or a Bud, for that matter, but it's the principle that count, of course. Both brands, which are respectable, and which I love, deserves the opportunity to satisfy me as a customer. And if they don't, well, then I have the irrevocable right, on every online forum I can find a domain name for, to bash them for whatever they do. Then I will go and join Doug Brewer's therapy group for excessive-compulsive use of commas. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
Oh, so the warming we're experiencing now has happened before. I wonder what caused those warming cooling periods thousands of years ago? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: White K2000 pics Unfortunately for the climate modellers solar output went in the shitter with the current solar cycle and all of the common models assume a relatively stable solar output (since they're designed to model earth-based changes to the climate). Nobody except the historians have anything approaching an accurate idea of what's going to happen to the climate if the current solar cycle stays on its low-output course, or worse if the next Solar Cycle is similarly low). And the historical data presupposes a starting point distinctly warmer than 2006/2007 (The Medieval Optimum Period which ended between 1200 and 1250AD with the start of the Little Ice Age). whatever the causes of climate change, and whether it's good or bad overall, it does have some interesting side-effects and benefits: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7580294.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Pair of Sunsets
Thanks for all the comments. This past year has been really busy at work and made it difficult to follow the list very closely, along with shooting. I've done some weddings and portraits during that time, but very little of shooting on my own. I was able to get in on the Adorama deal a week or so ago and so will have a new K20D for Christmas. I'll try to get out and shoot much more. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:40:52 PM, you wrote: RW Bruce, RW It's great to have you posting photos again! RW I prefer the second one, mostly because there is some texture to RW the mountains. In the first pic they look almost like a cardboard RW cut-out, even though the rest of the photo is lovely. RW Rick RW http://photo.net/photos/RickW RW --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: PESO - Pair of Sunsets To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 2:58 PM The same evening as the last peso, I took these sunsets - one early and one late. Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/f4 EX @ 190mm ISO 400, 1/350sec @ f/8.0, Handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/utahlake_0035.htm Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 118mm ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/utahlake_0043.htm Comments welcome. -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. RW RW -- RW PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List RW PDML@pdml.net RW http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net RW to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
When portraits are the subject, extra post processing is worth doing - all you can do is improve the shot - you are not trying to show the true nature of the wall, are you? Clone away, I say! -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 4:09:11 AM, you wrote: BM Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. BM Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I BM need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a BM couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for BM the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or BM exert effort cloning it out? BM http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ BM Bong -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Blood Red
I say, thank you, Sir! Jack --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Blood Red To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 7:15 AM Bloody good! Boris Jack Davis wrote: Just got home from driving my wife to her Audiologist's office. to pick up her repaired hearing aid. I waited in the car and while gazing around, spotted what I believe to be a Blood Red variety Japanese Maple growing up against the building's gray stucco siding. Lack of shadows and glare enhanced the look, so had to record it. (the bag of gadgets and a couple camera bodies were keeping me company while I waited). Jack Comments are welcome http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=364 K10D, FA 80x...@98mm, f/10, 1/60, ISO 400 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boris PESO Week 52
Hi! Well, this year is coming to an end. At least by one of the calendars widely used around. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/12/paw-2008-week-52.html Have your say, brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 178 - GDG
What I really like is the girl looking over at him. This makes the shot for me. What bothers me a tiny bit is that without your title, I would be hard pressed to know what the guy is doing. Probably a timing thing with whatever he is juggling and the girl looking. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 6:36:46 AM, you wrote: GD Last night, my annual visit to the San Jose Christmas In The Park GD festival ... GDhttp://homepage.mac.com/godders/178-thejuggler.jpg GDThe Juggler - San Jose 2008 GDPanasonic G1 + ZD 25mm f/2.8 GDISO 800 @ f/2.8 @ 1/15 sec GD Comments and critique always appreciated. GD enjoy GD Godfrey GD -- GD PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List GD PDML@pdml.net GD http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net GD to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Pair of Sunsets
Pretty pics. Great color in the sky. Paul Congratulations on the new camera! On Dec 20, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Thanks for all the comments. This past year has been really busy at work and made it difficult to follow the list very closely, along with shooting. I've done some weddings and portraits during that time, but very little of shooting on my own. I was able to get in on the Adorama deal a week or so ago and so will have a new K20D for Christmas. I'll try to get out and shoot much more. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, December 19, 2008, 4:40:52 PM, you wrote: RW Bruce, RW It's great to have you posting photos again! RW I prefer the second one, mostly because there is some texture to RW the mountains. In the first pic they look almost like a cardboard RW cut-out, even though the rest of the photo is lovely. RW Rick RW http://photo.net/photos/RickW RW --- On Fri, 12/19/08, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: From: Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com Subject: PESO - Pair of Sunsets To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 2:58 PM The same evening as the last peso, I took these sunsets - one early and one late. Pentax K10D, Sigma 100-300/f4 EX @ 190mm ISO 400, 1/350sec @ f/8.0, Handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/utahlake_0035.htm Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 118mm ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/6.7, Handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/utahlake_0043.htm Comments welcome. -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. RW RW -- RW PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List RW PDML@pdml.net RW http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net RW to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO Week 52
Well, the traffic looks a little nicer than when I drive into San Francisco each week going through the maze grin. I like the tone of the shot - basically I feel the traffic is meant to give me a colder, hollower feeling and the sky and overall look work well for that. The traffic, on the other hand, seems just not quite right. The car lights are on, but not bright enough to give you a feeling of either motion or stopped (bright brake lights). The opposite lanes are difficult to really see for comparison. So for me, kind of medium - not great, but not bad. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46:45 AM, you wrote: BL Hi! BL Well, this year is coming to an end. At least by one of the calendars BL widely used around. BL http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/12/paw-2008-week-52.html BL Have your say, brutal and honest. BL Boris BL -- BL PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List BL PDML@pdml.net BL http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net BL to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Do you do this specifically for projection? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Malcolm Smith Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:12 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
35 and MF here. Shot a half-dozen rolls in the last month, I've been on a film kick of late. Mostly HP5+ and Tri-X in my FM2n, but some 400VC and Superia 800 as well through other bodies (Contax 137MD, FE2 and F2a) -Adam On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:00 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Photo Book Question
Joseph Tainter wrote: I'm refering to the photo book that Mark announced a couple of weeks ago. How are you guys and gals sharpening for this kind of output? DON'T sharpen. There's no way for you to know what the final output size is going to be (even we aren't certain yet). Please trust the editors to be competent to handle sharpening. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
JC OConnell wrote: Do you do this specifically for projection? Yes, old habits die hard. I used to be one of many who did this within the family - now I'm the only one, as everyone has gone 100% digital - not recently either. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I do - matter of fact, just bought myself a working Mx, a second one to restore, and will keep using film as long as I can. Film cameras are rather cheap now, so it's possible to assemble a dirty gear spending less than $150, so there's no worry about damaging or losing $$, and I'm going where I never had the courage to carry my LX - and if my gear gets stolen, I very much doubt the thief is going to develop my films... no pic taken with that gear is going to appear anywhere. There are lots of places to go where 35mm negative film is promptly available and correctly developed. I intendo to go more digital soon, but as long as there's film, I'm using it. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:12:04 -, Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com escreveu: JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Why? I understand MF and LF ( I still shoot 4x5 and 8x10 once in a while) but why 35mm, what advantage is there to it? The asthetic look of it or for some other reason? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? 35 and MF here. Shot a half-dozen rolls in the last month, I've been on a film kick of late. Mostly HP5+ and Tri-X in my FM2n, but some 400VC and Superia 800 as well through other bodies (Contax 137MD, FE2 and F2a) -Adam On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:00 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Film is more expensive to use than a DSLR after a fairly short number of exposures. AND the primary cost of using a SLR/DSLR system is in cost of the multiple lenses, not the single body. I have shot over 4000 frames with my DSLR camera in two years, film and film developing alone, no prints, would have cost much more than the $350 I paid for the DSLR, not to mention the value of all the time saved. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I do - matter of fact, just bought myself a working Mx, a second one to restore, and will keep using film as long as I can. Film cameras are rather cheap now, so it's possible to assemble a dirty gear spending less than $150, so there's no worry about damaging or losing $$, and I'm going where I never had the courage to carry my LX - and if my gear gets stolen, I very much doubt the thief is going to develop my films... no pic taken with that gear is going to appear anywhere. There are lots of places to go where 35mm negative film is promptly available and correctly developed. I intendo to go more digital soon, but as long as there's film, I'm using it. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:12:04 -, Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com escreveu: JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Not I, said the cat. I haven't used film for many years now. I still have some rolls in the freezer - maybe I should give it to someone who shoots film...oh, I don't know anyone like that. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:00:10 AM, you wrote: JO Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? JO I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR JO a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this JO list still using 35mm film at all, or still using JO 35mm film full time? JO JC O'Connell JO hifis...@gate.net JO JO -- JO PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JO PDML@pdml.net JO http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JO to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Bruce Dayton wrote: Not I, said the cat. I haven't used film for many years now. I still have some rolls in the freezer - maybe I should give it to someone who shoots film...oh, I don't know anyone like that. I've shot two and a half rolls of film this year (still gotta finish one)... all in the 645 and 67. Film may not be dead but *35mm* film certainly is, as far as I'm concerned. I don't ever expect to shoot another roll of 35. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I've been meaning to use my film slitter to put some low-ISO slide film through my Auto110. Well, I've been meaning to do it for two years now. I doubt it will happen in the near future. I have no plans to shoot film otherwise, even though I bought a ZX-5n a few months back (just in case). Film just isn't worth the cost compared to what can be done with my K10D. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/calemp http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Right about all that - in the first world anyway. If I buy a K20d here in BR I'm going to expend something like $1500~1700... just the body with the kit lens. My best Mx was $120 with a very clean 50mm 1.7. There is a lot of film in the difference (negative 35mm by Fuji, $5 apiece, developed and scanned). Yes, I will buy the K20d one of these days. To complement my gear. My $120 loss if I damage the Mx is NOT stopping me to use it. The moment I lose $1700 I'll be very angry indeed. I don't shoot that much, so that difference is not hurting so much. In the future (near, I hope) I'll do a lot of shooting with the digital. But as long as I have the gear and the film so cheap, I'm using it. Actually, I think I'll be using film as long as I can. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:42:47 -0500, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net escreveu: Film is more expensive to use than a DSLR after a fairly short number of exposures. AND the primary cost of using a SLR/DSLR system is in cost of the multiple lenses, not the single body. I have shot over 4000 frames with my DSLR camera in two years, film and film developing alone, no prints, would have cost much more than the $350 I paid for the DSLR, not to mention the value of all the time saved. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I do - matter of fact, just bought myself a working Mx, a second one to restore, and will keep using film as long as I can. Film cameras are rather cheap now, so it's possible to assemble a dirty gear spending less than $150, so there's no worry about damaging or losing $$, and I'm going where I never had the courage to carry my LX - and if my gear gets stolen, I very much doubt the thief is going to develop my films... no pic taken with that gear is going to appear anywhere. There are lots of places to go where 35mm negative film is promptly available and correctly developed. I intendo to go more digital soon, but as long as there's film, I'm using it. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:12:04 -, Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com escreveu: JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I last shot film in the summer of '07 -- a roll of Portra 160 in my 6x7. I plan on shooting a roll of film in my Leica iiif one of these days. I have a few rolls of 135 in the freezer. Quite a bit of medium format film as well. On Dec 20, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Dayton wrote: Not I, said the cat. I haven't used film for many years now. I still have some rolls in the freezer - maybe I should give it to someone who shoots film...oh, I don't know anyone like that. I've shot two and a half rolls of film this year (still gotta finish one)... all in the 645 and 67. Film may not be dead but *35mm* film certainly is, as far as I'm concerned. I don't ever expect to shoot another roll of 35. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
hi, you can get 6 MP Pentax DSLRs used but working fine for under $300 now on ebay from sellers that will ship to any place on earth. Even a 6Mp is close to film in quality, actually superior with respect to grain. Not quite as sharp as 35mm film but the zero film and developing costs pays for the camera in no time and there are many shooting advantages to digital also, besides the lower operational costs over film. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:13 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Right about all that - in the first world anyway. If I buy a K20d here in BR I'm going to expend something like $1500~1700... just the body with the kit lens. My best Mx was $120 with a very clean 50mm 1.7. There is a lot of film in the difference (negative 35mm by Fuji, $5 apiece, developed and scanned). Yes, I will buy the K20d one of these days. To complement my gear. My $120 loss if I damage the Mx is NOT stopping me to use it. The moment I lose $1700 I'll be very angry indeed. I don't shoot that much, so that difference is not hurting so much. In the future (near, I hope) I'll do a lot of shooting with the digital. But as long as I have the gear and the film so cheap, I'm using it. Actually, I think I'll be using film as long as I can. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:42:47 -0500, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net escreveu: Film is more expensive to use than a DSLR after a fairly short number of exposures. AND the primary cost of using a SLR/DSLR system is in cost of the multiple lenses, not the single body. I have shot over 4000 frames with my DSLR camera in two years, film and film developing alone, no prints, would have cost much more than the $350 I paid for the DSLR, not to mention the value of all the time saved. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I do - matter of fact, just bought myself a working Mx, a second one to restore, and will keep using film as long as I can. Film cameras are rather cheap now, so it's possible to assemble a dirty gear spending less than $150, so there's no worry about damaging or losing $$, and I'm going where I never had the courage to carry my LX - and if my gear gets stolen, I very much doubt the thief is going to develop my films... no pic taken with that gear is going to appear anywhere. There are lots of places to go where 35mm negative film is promptly available and correctly developed. I intendo to go more digital soon, but as long as there's film, I'm using it. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:12:04 -, Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com escreveu: JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
As have I. Kodak Royal Gold 100. I think the last time I shot film was five years ago. Perhaps we need a NorCal meet specifically to shoot film. Of course that means we need to find somewhere to get it developed; I'm not letting CostCo scratch my negatives. On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:44:55AM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: Not I, said the cat. I haven't used film for many years now. I still have some rolls in the freezer - maybe I should give it to someone who shoots film...oh, I don't know anyone like that. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:00:10 AM, you wrote: JO Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? JO I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR JO a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this JO list still using 35mm film at all, or still using JO 35mm film full time? JO JC O'Connell JO hifis...@gate.net JO JO -- JO PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JO PDML@pdml.net JO http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JO to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Two reasons, the first being look (fast BW has a unique look and film produces a colour rendition that can be hard to achieve with digital, particularly in the reds) the second being I simply enjoy working with the simple, well built cameras better. There's little reasonable options in digital that can match the feel of a high-end manual focus 35mm body or the simplicity of a mechanical 35mm SLR. I get both with my F2a and FM2n. -Adam On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:37 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Why? I understand MF and LF ( I still shoot 4x5 and 8x10 once in a while) but why 35mm, what advantage is there to it? The asthetic look of it or for some other reason? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? 35 and MF here. Shot a half-dozen rolls in the last month, I've been on a film kick of late. Mostly HP5+ and Tri-X in my FM2n, but some 400VC and Superia 800 as well through other bodies (Contax 137MD, FE2 and F2a) -Adam On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:00 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO Week 52
Like the sweeping curve of the roadway and the building locations. IOW, nice composition! My experience with such traffic is to see it dead still. Perhaps that would have been another choice. Jack --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris PESO Week 52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 AM Hi! Well, this year is coming to an end. At least by one of the calendars widely used around. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/12/paw-2008-week-52.html Have your say, brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
While that is true for Pentax kit, it's not in some other systems. How much film could you shoot for the $4500 price difference between a F5 and a D3? High-end 35mm film SLR's are, with very few exceptions, cheaper than even a cheap DSLR. $350 easily gets me into an F5. -Adam On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:42 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Film is more expensive to use than a DSLR after a fairly short number of exposures. AND the primary cost of using a SLR/DSLR system is in cost of the multiple lenses, not the single body. I have shot over 4000 frames with my DSLR camera in two years, film and film developing alone, no prints, would have cost much more than the $350 I paid for the DSLR, not to mention the value of all the time saved. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I do - matter of fact, just bought myself a working Mx, a second one to restore, and will keep using film as long as I can. Film cameras are rather cheap now, so it's possible to assemble a dirty gear spending less than $150, so there's no worry about damaging or losing $$, and I'm going where I never had the courage to carry my LX - and if my gear gets stolen, I very much doubt the thief is going to develop my films... no pic taken with that gear is going to appear anywhere. There are lots of places to go where 35mm negative film is promptly available and correctly developed. I intendo to go more digital soon, but as long as there's film, I'm using it. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:12:04 -, Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com escreveu: JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
... 100% right. The Brasilian issue starts with the shipping - let's assume another $100 ($400). Now add Import taxes of 60% over combined price ($640). That's a huge step from the K20d indeed, and the difference to my Mx falls to $500, or just 100 rolls of film. Last year I shot 14 - now I'm using a digital PS to cover my family reunions. I'm going digital asap. But even then I'm willing to risk up to $200 wandering aroung with 35mm films. I just don't want to bother with loss of gear anymore. I'm pretty tired of whacking thieves with my walking stick, and getting older to outrun them either... ;-) Atually buying used gear involves another issue - if I'm lucky enough to buy a damaged camera, I'm paying SH and import taxes over it anyway. I'm trying to get hold of a new K2000, at least. I do think I'm within grasping range in 2009. It will be fundamental to my photography comeback, the same as the oldies. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:18:57 -0500, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net escreveu: hi, you can get 6 MP Pentax DSLRs used but working fine for under $300 now on ebay from sellers that will ship to any place on earth. Even a 6Mp is close to film in quality, actually superior with respect to grain. Not quite as sharp as 35mm film but the zero film and developing costs pays for the camera in no time and there are many shooting advantages to digital also, besides the lower operational costs over film. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 2:13 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Right about all that - in the first world anyway. If I buy a K20d here in BR I'm going to expend something like $1500~1700... just the body with the kit lens. My best Mx was $120 with a very clean 50mm 1.7. There is a lot of film in the difference (negative 35mm by Fuji, $5 apiece, developed and scanned). Yes, I will buy the K20d one of these days. To complement my gear. My $120 loss if I damage the Mx is NOT stopping me to use it. The moment I lose $1700 I'll be very angry indeed. I don't shoot that much, so that difference is not hurting so much. In the future (near, I hope) I'll do a lot of shooting with the digital. But as long as I have the gear and the film so cheap, I'm using it. Actually, I think I'll be using film as long as I can. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:42:47 -0500, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net escreveu: Film is more expensive to use than a DSLR after a fairly short number of exposures. AND the primary cost of using a SLR/DSLR system is in cost of the multiple lenses, not the single body. I have shot over 4000 frames with my DSLR camera in two years, film and film developing alone, no prints, would have cost much more than the $350 I paid for the DSLR, not to mention the value of all the time saved. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Luiz Felipe Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:36 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I do - matter of fact, just bought myself a working Mx, a second one to restore, and will keep using film as long as I can. Film cameras are rather cheap now, so it's possible to assemble a dirty gear spending less than $150, so there's no worry about damaging or losing $$, and I'm going where I never had the courage to carry my LX - and if my gear gets stolen, I very much doubt the thief is going to develop my films... no pic taken with that gear is going to appear anywhere. There are lots of places to go where 35mm negative film is promptly available and correctly developed. I intendo to go more digital soon, but as long as there's film, I'm using it. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:12:04 -, Malcolm Smith malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com escreveu: JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Yes. I still put a few rolls of slide film through my LX and will do until it becomes impossible to buy any. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
At 1:00 PM -0500 12/20/08, JC OConnell wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? I shoot film probably 60% - 70% of the time. About 30 rolls of 35mm and 10 - 15 rolls of 120/220 per year. I like the look of Velvia and I figure if I want black and white images then I may as well shoot black and white film. I like the handling of my Pentax film cameras better than my *ist D. Also, I have a better selection of Pentax lenses for 35mm than I do for digital (especially at the wide end), and I am reluctant to spend a lot of money on DA lenses because I'm not sure about the long term viability of the APS size sensor format. Finally, I persist with film because I still have some old Miranda cameras and lots of Miranda lenses from the '60s and '70s. Optically they are gorgeous. Unfortunately the camera bodies are wearing out so I am using them less and less. -- Steve Sharpe d...@ns.sympatico.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boris PESO Week 52
I like that shot very much indeed - would be greatly tempted to do a long exposure, assuming the place would allow. Boris, are there specific regulations on tripod use in Tel Aviv? Is it a safe place to walk with photo gear? Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:38:35 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com escreveu: Like the sweeping curve of the roadway and the building locations. IOW, nice composition! My experience with such traffic is to see it dead still. Perhaps that would have been another choice. Jack --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Boris PESO Week 52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 9:46 AM Hi! Well, this year is coming to an end. At least by one of the calendars widely used around. http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2008/12/paw-2008-week-52.html Have your say, brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Well if we had a meet to shoot film, I'd have to borrow my daughter's MX - as I have no film bodies at this point in time. Yes, getting the film developed would cause me to search around, I'm not sure if my local lab does it anymore. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:32:03 AM, you wrote: JF As have I. Kodak Royal Gold 100. JF I think the last time I shot film was five years ago. JF Perhaps we need a NorCal meet specifically to shoot film. JF Of course that means we need to find somewhere to get it JF developed; I'm not letting CostCo scratch my negatives. JF On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:44:55AM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: Not I, said the cat. I haven't used film for many years now. I still have some rolls in the freezer - maybe I should give it to someone who shoots film...oh, I don't know anyone like that. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:00:10 AM, you wrote: JO Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? JO I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR JO a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this JO list still using 35mm film at all, or still using JO 35mm film full time? JO JC O'Connell JO hifis...@gate.net JO JO -- JO PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JO PDML@pdml.net JO http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JO to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. JF -- JF PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JF PDML@pdml.net JF http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JF to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
On 12/20/08, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? Hi there, I have shot a few rolls for fun. Or for when a family member wants to use my fancy smancy It must be a pro camera because its black *ist DL. I bought a Pentax-M 1.7 a while back and a Pentax ME came attached to it, so I figured I should use it every once in while. I have a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite that does a pretty good job for scanning slides and negs, so I'm I'm basically digital with 35mm as well. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I do, I guess. At least I shot one this summer with a MX and 17mm fisheye... DagT Den 20. des.. 2008 kl. 19.00 skrev JC OConnell: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
In the last year I've shot about a dozen rolls of BW 620, (assorted types but mostly TMAX 100), well 120 respooled onto old 620 spools really, in an old Kodak Medalist, maybe 96 frames all together. I also picked up a half dozen rolls of TMAX 400, (not my faviorite film but at about a buck a roll too good a deal to pass up), 135-36 to shoot in my MX and LX just for the joy of using such beautifully made equipment, though I haven't used it yet. Hum, yonder blizard seems just made for draging out an LX or MX and shooting some clasic BW snow scenes. -Original Message- From: JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net Sent: Dec 20, 2008 1:00 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I shot some Tri-X about 3 weeks ago. It was the first time I'd shot film since I bought my Olympus E-500 about 2.5 years ago. I have a note in my diary to finish the Tri-X I still have; I shall do that in the New Year, although I'm thinking of taking it up north when I head up there for Christmas, and leave the digital cameras down here. Bob Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
After reading this thread, I decided to put a roll of Tri-X in my Canon T90. I just shot a teapot filled with hot tea and some knic-knacks on my kitchen window ledge: I wanted to check the histogram, but it wasn't there; I pressed the shutter halfway the lens didn't focus, but I did get the exposure readings; and I think later tonight I'll take some portraits of my husband. Prior to this, I haven't shot film for a long time. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Pretty much, never. I occasionally put a roll through a new m42 camera I've added to my collection but even that seems to be a chore. I recently fired off a short roll in a Voigtlander VSL1 - took about 3 months to finish the roll I'd like to put some film though my Super A, I really would. But digital is just too seductive. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:00:10 -0500, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net said: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Greenwich tonight
This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market building is on the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top of the pub. http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving with people and traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. Presumably all the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the locals have run out of money. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Not me. I haven't shot film since I got the *istD (2003?). Actually, I find myself using the Optio MX more and more. Bill On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: After reading this thread, I decided to put a roll of Tri-X in my Canon T90. I just shot a teapot filled with hot tea and some knic-knacks on my kitchen window ledge: I wanted to check the histogram, but it wasn't there; I pressed the shutter halfway the lens didn't focus, but I did get the exposure readings; and I think later tonight I'll take some portraits of my husband. Prior to this, I haven't shot film for a long time. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Greenwich tonight
Nice look at the highstreet Bob. Wish it was that warm around here. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market building is on the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top of the pub. http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving with people and traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. Presumably all the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the locals have run out of money. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Finished off two rolls last week, one colour and one of TX-100. Used the colour in a Russian copy of an early Leica , amazed to find again how good the Industar lens is for the price. Flares like crazy in cross-lighting, but good resolution and colour balance. Shot the TX-100 in a Spotmatic: the battery was playing up however, and I didn't have time to get a new one, so I went back to estimating the exposure from the Sunny 16 rule. It will be interesting to see how close I can still get it! I still have a couple of rolls in the fridge, as well as some VP-120 for my Rolleicord - I'll have to shoot it soon, I really like using those old, often manual cameras. With the Rollei I use a Sekonic light-meter, which is still dead accurate although probably over 30 years old. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of JC OConnell Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2008 4:00 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Greenwich tonight
Beauiful. Wish I was there. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market building is on the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top of the pub. http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving with people and traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. Presumably all the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the locals have run out of money. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Shot from the bike this morning
A bit of a therialultian shot from the bike with the Optio S. The location is the Washington and Old Dominion Trail in Purcellville on my way to Leesburg. 32 degrees Fahrenheit (0 Celsius) and cloudy. http://tinyurl.com/8u9hgg And here is Hamilton Station, one of the original train stations when the WOD was a working railroad. http://tinyurl.com/7ljjn7 Comments welcomed. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I've still got a couple of MXs, a PZ-1p and an MZ-S. (And a Super Program, in theory, although I lent it to Shel some time ago). Crazy, really, as I doubt if I'll shoot film except for special occasions where film is required. But I've certainly got enough film bodies to be able to lend them out to people if we really do this. Of course that means I'd have to hook my film scanner up to a current machine, too - I no longer use the machine it was connected to. I think I've got a PCI SCSI card ... P.S., That's Kodak Royal Gold 25 in my freezer, not RG100. really, as I On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:08:42PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: Well if we had a meet to shoot film, I'd have to borrow my daughter's MX - as I have no film bodies at this point in time. Yes, getting the film developed would cause me to search around, I'm not sure if my local lab does it anymore. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:32:03 AM, you wrote: JF As have I. Kodak Royal Gold 100. JF I think the last time I shot film was five years ago. JF Perhaps we need a NorCal meet specifically to shoot film. JF Of course that means we need to find somewhere to get it JF developed; I'm not letting CostCo scratch my negatives. JF On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:44:55AM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: Not I, said the cat. I haven't used film for many years now. I still have some rolls in the freezer - maybe I should give it to someone who shoots film...oh, I don't know anyone like that. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:00:10 AM, you wrote: JO Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? JO I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR JO a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this JO list still using 35mm film at all, or still using JO 35mm film full time? JO JC O'Connell JO hifis...@gate.net JO JO -- JO PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JO PDML@pdml.net JO http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JO to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. JF -- JF PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JF PDML@pdml.net JF http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JF to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
The Flintstones? Christian Ken Waller wrote: Oh, so the warming we're experiencing now has happened before. I wonder what caused those warming cooling periods thousands of years ago? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: White K2000 pics Unfortunately for the climate modellers solar output went in the shitter with the current solar cycle and all of the common models assume a relatively stable solar output (since they're designed to model earth-based changes to the climate). Nobody except the historians have anything approaching an accurate idea of what's going to happen to the climate if the current solar cycle stays on its low-output course, or worse if the next Solar Cycle is similarly low). And the historical data presupposes a starting point distinctly warmer than 2006/2007 (The Medieval Optimum Period which ended between 1200 and 1250AD with the start of the Little Ice Age). whatever the causes of climate change, and whether it's good or bad overall, it does have some interesting side-effects and benefits: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7580294.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
Look. We all know how it happened before. Here it is: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/NMIASrYJrv9ry0ptkS9dLw?feat=directlink With all that smoke it's no wonder they set of the global cooling with ice ages and all. Jostein 2008/12/20 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: Oh, so the warming we're experiencing now has happened before. I wonder what caused those warming cooling periods thousands of years ago? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: White K2000 pics Unfortunately for the climate modellers solar output went in the shitter with the current solar cycle and all of the common models assume a relatively stable solar output (since they're designed to model earth-based changes to the climate). Nobody except the historians have anything approaching an accurate idea of what's going to happen to the climate if the current solar cycle stays on its low-output course, or worse if the next Solar Cycle is similarly low). And the historical data presupposes a starting point distinctly warmer than 2006/2007 (The Medieval Optimum Period which ended between 1200 and 1250AD with the start of the Little Ice Age). whatever the causes of climate change, and whether it's good or bad overall, it does have some interesting side-effects and benefits: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7580294.stm Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
On 12/20/08, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? One other reason I still shoot 35mm film is when I'm attempting to capture meteorites. I realize noise reduction has come in a long way, but I still prefer film for that kind of photography. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From Nikon we get the D3, D3x, and D700 From Canon we get EOS 5D, EOS 50D, ... even the EOS Rebels Most of those may be fine for pros, or even amateurs with a very serious interest and a big budget, but what about the rest of us? Both lines with a full range of available lenses, from Ultra-wide zooms through wide, normal, telephoto and super telephoto. Not to mention, both lines still support FILM with cameras and lenses. And what do we get from Pentax? In-body IS and the ability to use a huge range of older lenses! From my point of view, and in my price and application range, Pentax or Four Thirds are the obvious choices. Maybe Sony, I haven't really looked. C and N aren't in the running. Even with more money and harder requirements, it is not clear C and N are the only choices. Olympus have a 4/3 lens that is 14-35 mm (28-70 equivalent) at F2.0. Where does your full range of available lenses have something to match that? Their 7-14 is reportedly superb as well. -- Sandy Harris, Quanzhou, Fujian, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Greenwich tonight
Wow, I really like this one. Just right on exposure, great sky and the atmosphere really works. Excellent! -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 1:54:48 PM, you wrote: BW This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market building is on BW the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top of the pub. BW http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg BW Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving with people and BW traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. Presumably all BW the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the locals have run out of BW money. BW Bob BW -- BW PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List BW PDML@pdml.net BW http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net BW to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Well, my scanner is still hooked up and working - I still have lots of film left to scan. So that part is covered. Maybe we should do a shoot on film. I still have enough in the freezer of pretty good stuff, too. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 2:30:54 PM, you wrote: JF I've still got a couple of MXs, a PZ-1p and an MZ-S. (And a JF Super Program, in theory, although I lent it to Shel some JF time ago). Crazy, really, as I doubt if I'll shoot film JF except for special occasions where film is required. JF But I've certainly got enough film bodies to be able to JF lend them out to people if we really do this. JF Of course that means I'd have to hook my film scanner up JF to a current machine, too - I no longer use the machine JF it was connected to. I think I've got a PCI SCSI card ... JF P.S., That's Kodak Royal Gold 25 in my freezer, not RG100. JF really, as I JF On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:08:42PM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: Well if we had a meet to shoot film, I'd have to borrow my daughter's MX - as I have no film bodies at this point in time. Yes, getting the film developed would cause me to search around, I'm not sure if my local lab does it anymore. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:32:03 AM, you wrote: JF As have I. Kodak Royal Gold 100. JF I think the last time I shot film was five years ago. JF Perhaps we need a NorCal meet specifically to shoot film. JF Of course that means we need to find somewhere to get it JF developed; I'm not letting CostCo scratch my negatives. JF On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:44:55AM -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote: Not I, said the cat. I haven't used film for many years now. I still have some rolls in the freezer - maybe I should give it to someone who shoots film...oh, I don't know anyone like that. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:00:10 AM, you wrote: JO Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? JO I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR JO a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this JO list still using 35mm film at all, or still using JO 35mm film full time? JO JC O'Connell JO hifis...@gate.net JO JO -- JO PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JO PDML@pdml.net JO http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JO to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. JF -- JF PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JF PDML@pdml.net JF http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JF to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. JF -- JF PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JF PDML@pdml.net JF http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JF to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
From: Rick Womer John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick 300 f/2.8 lenses I can use with my PZ-1P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT GESO: Nouvelle Vague w Bridezilla
From: Scott Loveless On 12/19/08, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Sex Pistols a la Bossa Nova. Ah, Gallic post-modern irony. More fun than a barrel of Derridas http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_12/08_12_nouvelle/index.htm Nice work all around, but this is the best concert photo ever. http://www.sarahsilvermanonline.com/gallery/albums/photoshoots/10/normal_set10-02.jpg Oops!!! Page Not Found Faint praise? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
-- Original message -- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com From: Rick Womer John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick 300 f/2.8 lenses I can use with my PZ-1P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I am still shooting film for creative, personal and non-commercial projects. I still have a lot of film cameras (manual focus mechanical types like the MX with one odd MZ3) to keep active and keep my imagination and skills tested. I just shot off my last roll of Ilford Delta and processed it (D76) and wondering if I should replenish anything along that line since I can convert to BW anytime from digital shots and even color film photos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3094352907/). I would continue to use slide film for my sunsets as long as someone processes them here in the Philippines (as of now, only one lab handles E-6). I could never *consistently* catch the ball of the setting sun without reducing it to a messy hotspot with a DSLR, so I always have a slide film along (see http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2964383536/). Bong On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 2:00 AM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: to clone or not to clone...
Thanks everyone for your comments and inputs. I'll repost a 'fixed' photo shortly. Bong On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: When portraits are the subject, extra post processing is worth doing - all you can do is improve the shot - you are not trying to show the true nature of the wall, are you? Clone away, I say! -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, December 20, 2008, 4:09:11 AM, you wrote: BM Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. BM Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I BM need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a BM couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for BM the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or BM exert effort cloning it out? BM http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ BM Bong -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
On Dec 20, 2008, at 16:12 , John Sessoms wrote: From: Rick Womer John, I'm curious--what is missing from the lens roadmap that you would like? Rick 300 f/2.8 lenses I can use with my PZ-1P All available on the used market. I'm surprised you don't already have the collection. :-) Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: White K2000 pics
From: AlunFoto 008/12/19 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: I don't want to switch brands, but if Pentax continues on the course they're presently on, I may not have a choice. If it does turn out that way, I ain't going quietly. You know, What I really don't understand is why K?ningsegg can not make me a truck when I want one, and why Budweiser never can come up with a decent beer. So far I've gone quietly about this, but following your advice, I think I shall join the relevant forums and tell the world how those companies _should_ have done their business. Thanks for the inspiration. You're welcome, although I think you still miss the point. AFAIK, K?ningsegg has never manufactured trucks, any more than Budweiser has ever manufactured decent beer. Pentax, OTOH, has a history to live up to. And, if this isn't a relevant forum to discuss the shortcomings of Pentax's current offerings, there is none. I'll let this be my last comment on the subject. I think Pentax is pursuing a course that will not increase their market share, nor contribute to their long term viability. If Pentax continues on the course they're on, a year or two years from now Pentax won't be in the camera business. I hope I'm wrong. But ... Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000? Who on this list is going to buy a white K2000 BECAUSE it's white? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
While I do miss the usage and feel of my vintage spotmatics and Pentax KX bodies, I dont miss the hassle and time consumption of developing and scanning negatives, especally the dust touching up, God I love not doing that anymore. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: testing the G1 ...
This EVF is *almost* optical in quality. It is way beyond the best prior EVF I used ... the Konica Minolta A2 ... and that was much better than the Coolscan 5700 or Sony R1 EVFs. I haven't tried tracking birds with it but I don't think it will have much difficulty. G On Dec 20, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Ken Waller wrote: I hope the finder is better than the one on the Nikon Coolscan 5700. It was ok for static shots, but the delay caused it to be unusable for most action shots - push button and get a slightly different image than when you pushed button. Try shooting birds and kids with that ! It was a great camera, I really appreciated the articulated viewfinder for getting shots where I couldn't stick my head - like the underside of instrument panels and other situations where I could position the camera body and move the viewfinder so it could be viewed during image capture. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
From: JC OConnell Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? I still do. At least a couple of rolls a month. Plus large format when I can justify it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I still like and do LF, but for me I am now officially retired from 35mm film photograpy. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 8:10 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? From: JC OConnell Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film? I have only shot one roll since going with a DSLR a couple years ago. I am wondering, anyone on this list still using 35mm film at all, or still using 35mm film full time? I still do. At least a couple of rolls a month. Plus large format when I can justify it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: to clone or not to clone...
Thanks, Christine! On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Bong: I vote for clone. The portrait is beautiful, Bong! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:09 AM Subject: PESO: to clone or not to clone... Peak season for parties and events to shoot here in the Philippines. Nothing much to show except for folks partying and getting married. I need your opinion on this one though, an environmental portrait of a couple on their golden wedding anniversary--almost perfect except for the A/C switch box behind the guy's ear. Should I leave it as is or exert effort cloning it out? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/3121815671/ Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
I processed a roll of 120 Tri-X, and 2 4x5 yesterday. I have 1 more roll of 120 to do today. I'll post some PESO later on. -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Greenwich tonight
Extremely well done overall exposure and composition, Bob. An inviting place that looks fairly busy to me. Jack --- On Sat, 12/20/08, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: Greenwich tonight To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 1:54 PM This is a picture of Greenwich at 4.25pm today. The market building is on the left of shot, with Shepherd Neame painted along the top of the pub. http://www.web-options.com/L1030148.jpg Normally on a Saturday this scene is absolutely heaving with people and traffic, but today it's been very quiet, mild and pleasant. Presumably all the tourists are back home for Christmas, and all the locals have run out of money. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Its almost 2009 - Who's still shooting 35mm film?
Scanning sucks. So does dust spotting. Frankly I don't much like doing post, digital or film. -Adam On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:59 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote: While I do miss the usage and feel of my vintage spotmatics and Pentax KX bodies, I dont miss the hassle and time consumption of developing and scanning negatives, especally the dust touching up, God I love not doing that anymore. JC O'Connell hifis...@gate.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
