foto nova 19 recap

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

yowza.

It was simply amazing last evening. Estimate is that over six hundred  
people visited the gallery between 6 and 10:30 pm. Standing room only.  
Thanks to everyone who could make it. I got together with the troupe  
of photographers this evening and did our debrief at the gallery this  
evening ... I'm still exhausted. ;-)


Gita, our fearless leader, made about 180 photos during the event.  
I'll be picking up a copy of them next time I am at the gallery and  
will put them in an online gallery for folks to see.


Anyone local wanting to do a gallery visit who couldn't make it on  
Friday, or who'd like to go back and actually see the work in quieter  
circumstances, let me know and I'll try to meet with you there.


We can arrange a group visit if a few people are interested. Hmm.  
'Twould be fun. :-) Hmm, when would work best for folks? The gallery  
is open weekdays until 7pm and fri-sat-sun until 9pm.


off to bed. I need rest. ;-)

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Dario Bonazza]

Tim Bray wrote:

The balance of the Universe requires that somewhere out there is 
an antiCotty who hated every picture in there.


Mark! 


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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

A wonderful effort, Cotty!

I can't read through it all tonight ... still recovering from  
exhaustion due to the exhibition last evening! ... but it looks grand.  
I've saved it off as an Acrobat file so I can print it to a small  
companion volume for the book.  :-)


Thanks for posting it, and all the effort!

Godfrey


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A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Subash]

On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:03:28 +
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> A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!
> 
> Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:
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> 

Cotty,

appreciate the generosity of spirit you have shown in reviewing each
picture individually. you could have spent a little more time and
words on the mile high swinging bridge but i am sure others more
competent than me would make up for that. ;-) thanks for the nice
words. much appreciated. 

regards, subash

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Christine Aguila]

To be willing to spend "a good ten hours or so" to review each and every 
photograph with a thoughtful eye so willing to find virtue and so willing to 
express with such eloquent words requires a big heart and a generous 
soul--which you clearly have in abundance, Cotty.   The world could use more 
folks like you.  It would be a kinder and happier place.


Big cheers, Christine





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Re: PESO 007, few spring shots for you

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/7/2009 10:36:26 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
bori...@gmail.com writes:
Hi!

The spring (or  should I say a hot Mediterranean summer) has come with 
quite a  presence.

Please have a look and of course a honest and brutal say  too.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-007.html

Boris

===
I  like the top the best. The combo of pine needles and flowers makes it look 
like  among spring's first blooms.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO: Spring Roll

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In a message dated 3/7/2009 7:26:27 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
pnstenqu...@comcast.net  writes:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8673718&size=lg


==
Fun  shot. One of these days she'll get older and self-conscious and not let 
you take  her picture. Though I think that time is still well off.  Thankfully.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/7/2009 6:50:39 P.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
pentax...@mac.com writes:
A wonderful review by a master  wordsmith using his very large pot of  
praise to tell us what his well  trained eyes have seen.


Extremely well put.

Very  good reviews, Cotty. Very thoughtful words accompanying wise  eyes.

Thanks!

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[Ken Waller]

Mine's the 600mm f4.0 SMC FA.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister" 


Subject: Re: I can't afford it, but...


Don't pay any attention to the guy who already has one (newer
version)!  (Or is your's the ƒ4, Ken?)

It's for a SLR of FF variety.  Makes it a 900mm ƒ5.6 on a DSLR (with
SR). With the 1.7 AF teleconverter you'd have an ƒ9 1530mm. (roughly)

And it comes with a case. Friends are friends because they carry the
tripod and lens.

On Mar 7, 2009, at 17:57 , Ken Waller wrote:


BTW,  its for a 67.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: I can't afford it, but...


This one may fall into the "unusual and probably no one wants it"  ebay 
gaff exclusion category.

Paul
- "Doug Brewer"  wrote:


Joseph McAllister wrote:
> for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow
them
to.
> Or I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in
the

> Pacific Northwest...
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

[Bob Sullivan]

Toine,
Very pretty stuff.
An overwhelming gallery!
Regards, Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Toine  wrote:
> Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.
>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/
>
> Toine
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>> It's the official cartographic start of a small river (a stream, creek
>>> or brook I don't know the difference) in dutch "beek".
>>
>> The cognate English word is probably 'beck'.
>>
>> Whether something is called a stream, creek, brook, beck or whatever else is
>> available is probably a geohistoricolinguistic accident. I think they all
>> mean the same thing.
>>
>> It's a very interesting set of pictures and I can understand the appeal of
>> the location. One of my favourite parts of Britain is the North Kent Marshes
>> - salt marsh at the estuary of the Thames - also very flat. Particularly
>> bleak and appealing in winter.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for all your nice comments. Some wondered where and
>>> what this is:
>>> It's the official cartographic start of a small river (a stream, creek
>>> or brook I don't know the difference) in dutch "beek". The whole
>>> region is called a "beekdal" or stream valley.
>>>
>>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.311757,5.536637&spn=0.01
>>> 9931,0.0315&z=15
>>>
>>> Since this is the netherlands everything is flat and a valley is only
>>> a few meters difference. The region isn't even a proper "wetland" they
>>> installed small water gates to keep the water level in the area high
>>> enough for a wetland.
>>> Most of the dutch nature is mixed with farmland and worse with lots of
>>> cattle and pig breeding, The pig population outnumbers the human
>>> population. The resulting manure is used to fertilize the land, since
>>> the soil is mainly sand the manure seeps through.
>>> What you see is the smelly result captured by the water gate.
>>>
>>> The good news is I like these pictures and the forest and wetland
>>> surrounding this smelly water gate is my favorite foraging spot.
>>
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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[Scott Loveless]

On 3/7/09, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
>  It's for a SLR of FF variety.  Makes it a 900mm ƒ5.6 on a DSLR (with SR).
> With the 1.7 AF teleconverter you'd have an ƒ9 1530mm. (roughly)

Here we go again.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks. Well, English is a wondrous language especially at the 
fingertips of a man such as yourself.


Much honorable advancement has been gained, kind Sir ;-).

I think we might want to make a web ring of sorts - linking our pages 
about the PDML Annual together.


Boris


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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[Tim Bray]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
> for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow them to.  Or
> I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in the Pacific
> Northwest...

That should totally not be allowed.  Maybe I could sell one of my
children...  -T


>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Copy and paste the entire url or just go to eBay and search for a Pentax A*
> 600mm.  (The hideous Green one.)
>
>
> Joseph McAllister
> Pentaxian
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> http://gallery.me.com/jomac
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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Tim Bray]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!
>
> Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:
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The effort is much appreciated.  The balance of the Universe requires
that somewhere out there is an antiCotty who hated every picture in
there. -T

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Cotty. I enjoyed your review very much. Tomorrow I'm going to  
print it and read it again as I leaf through the book.

Much appreciated.
Paul
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Re: PESO - Shell and Pebbles

[Larry Colen]

Nice, start converting your shots to B&W and you could play Godfrey's
evil twin on TV.

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 04:07:55PM -0800, Rick Womer wrote:

> 
> That's what intrigued me, Bob--I had never thought about sand being such a 
> mixture before.
> 
> It lost something in the JPG translation--the orginal RAW has
> texture in the sand that make one's eyes hurt.  Maybe I'll try again
> with a larger JPG file... 

Was it the JPEG conversion on your machine? Or any compression they
might do to the JPEG file on photo.net?

As an experiment it might be interesting to just crop down to a 100%
crop of the center of the photo and see how that fares.

> 
> Rick
> 
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Rick,
> > That's interesting.  The sand seems to have glass beads
> > in it, making
> > for an unusual texture.
> > Regards, Bob S.
> > 
> > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Rick Womer
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Another from the beach at Hammonassett State Park in
> > Connecticut:
> > >
> > >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8665274&size=lg
> > >
> > > (K10D and DA 50-200).
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Unsurprising sadness

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 10:49:42AM -0500, Graydon wrote:
> So I really doubt there's going to be a small-shop digital camera
> rebuild business going; if the tech gets good enough that this is
> physical possible at all (put copper wire, sand, and random bits of junk
> in the fabber, get ICs out, tech) the small shop guys will be
> custom-making cameras for the retro crowd who hate the idea of having
> recorders on their optic nerves.

I'm just waiting for the photophile hobby to catch up with the
audiophile hobby where you have small business that'll buy consumer
gear and replace all of the linear components with high precision gold
plated components made of pure unobtainium. 

Is a D3x not expensive enough for you? Ship it to us and we can make
it cost more than a Phase One. Do you like the form factor of the K-M,
but can't stand the lack of bragging rights? We'll sprinkle our magic
pixie dust on it and you'll have the lightest $15,000 DSLR on the block.

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Brian Walters]

A monumental effort - I dips me lid, sir.

However, for some unfathomable reason, the reviewer is far too critical
of "Mile High Swinging Bridge, Grandfather Mountain,", so I hope you'll
allow me

"A contrast between the rugged beauty of the natural world and the stark
form of an engineered structure.  The image is dominated by large
natural rock outcrops which loom menacingly from the left and by the
large turnbuckle and spring that dominates the foreground. Above, the
suspension bridge leads the eye into the forest, in much the same way as
it leads the walker further up the mountain.

The muted colour palette suits the nature of this unusual composition
that works wonderfully well.

The photographer is far too hard on himself!"



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Stan Halpin]

Thank you Cotty. A nobel ambition, wonderfully executed.

I did a quick flip through, with a careful read of selected items. I  
thought you were fair to generous in your assessment of the photos,  
with the exception of your comments in re the bridge scene on p. 47.  
I won't attempt a full review but I offer here some phrases that came  
to mind:


The strong diagonal of the man-made bridge slashing across the  
verdant natural scene, the guy wires struggling to hold the bridge  
from taking flight, bring to mind the existential questions so often  
raised by this internationally acclaimed photographer in his search  
for truth and the meaning of life.


stan

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Re: Out Now - PDML Photo Annual 2008/9 REVIEW

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 7, 2009, at 18:03 , Cotty wrote:


A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:



Enjoy :-)



All that in ten hours! It took me almost that long to read it all! And  
my sister has the book, so only my meager memory buoyed by Cotty's  
words allowed me to recall  each and every image!


A wonderful review by a master wordsmith using his very large pot of  
praise to tell us what his well trained eyes have seen.


We should all allow Cotty to renege on the eating of his hat, for  
whichever of the probabilities of Pentax for which he is on the hook.


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Re: PDML Documentary

[Pasvorn Boonmark]

Cotty,

I would love to but my life is mostly boring - which is a good thing.

-Pasvorn

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Cotty  wrote:
> This is a bit of a long shot.
>
> I have an idea for a documentary series about hobbyist photographers
> whose link to each other is through an internet email list. Stop
> laughing. Could be 6 or 12 X 1 hours with a calm sea and a fair wind
> behind (which let's face it is not difficult). Anyone be interested in
> having a luny Brit spending a week or so following you around and making
> a TV program about you? Worldwide appeal with the final program a meet
> and greet in a neutral country. Expenses paid if successful.  If so
> please write to me offlist. Link provided showing style and possible content.
>
> cotty...@mac.com
>
> Could be I've had too much wine tonight. But from small bottles do large
> ideas come from.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
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Re: DA*60-250

[Stan Halpin]

He was referring to the FA*80-200 I suggested as an available  
alternative.


stan

On Mar 7, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:


No such item at all on eBay US - none - zip - zilch.

You must be looking at the one demo unit they made for all the  
suits to ooo and aa over. I knew it would sell cheap all banged  
up.


:-)


On Mar 7, 2009, at 14:22 , Frits Wüthrich wrote:


Yes, on eBay, but for about $1700 or more.


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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[Joseph McAllister]

Don't pay any attention to the guy who already has one (newer  
version)!  (Or is your's the ƒ4, Ken?)


It's for a SLR of FF variety.  Makes it a 900mm ƒ5.6 on a DSLR (with  
SR). With the 1.7 AF teleconverter you'd have an ƒ9 1530mm. (roughly)


And it comes with a case. Friends are friends because they carry the  
tripod and lens.


On Mar 7, 2009, at 17:57 , Ken Waller wrote:


BTW,  its for a 67.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: I can't afford it, but...


This one may fall into the "unusual and probably no one wants it"  
ebay gaff exclusion category.

Paul
- "Doug Brewer"  wrote:


Joseph McAllister wrote:
> for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow  
them

to.
> Or I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in  
the


> Pacific Northwest...
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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[Cotty]

A little later than advertised - took me a good ten hours or so!

Too big to fit in an email so point your browsers here:



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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

[Ken Waller]

Why is Jack a door?


Cause he's an open & shut case ?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph McAllister" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Beer or coke?



I can only speak for myself, but I hate you!:-)

Loverly collection of well executed images. Really...

Why is Jack a door?


On Mar 7, 2009, at 15:39 , Toine wrote:


Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/

Toine


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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[Ken Waller]

BTW,  its for a 67.

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This one may fall into the "unusual and probably no one wants it" ebay 
gaff exclusion category.

Paul
- "Doug Brewer"  wrote:


Joseph McAllister wrote:
> for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow them
to.
> Or I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in the

> Pacific Northwest...
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

>
>
> Copy and paste the entire url or just go to eBay and search for a
Pentax
> A* 600mm.  (The hideous Green one.)

uh oh

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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

[Joseph McAllister]

I can only speak for myself, but I hate you!:-)

Loverly collection of well executed images. Really...

Why is Jack a door?


On Mar 7, 2009, at 15:39 , Toine wrote:


Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/

Toine


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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[Ken Waller]

Don't forget several hundred $ more for the tripod, gimballed head and 
carrying case !


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- Original Message - 
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Subject: I can't afford it, but...


for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow them  to. 
Or I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in  the 
Pacific Northwest...


http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Copy and paste the entire url or just go to eBay and search for a  Pentax 
A* 600mm.  (The hideous Green one.)



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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[William Robb]

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Subject: Re: I can't afford it, but...


This one may fall into the "unusual and probably no one wants it" ebay 
gaff exclusion category.


Nah, posts like this are informative. :-}

William Robb 



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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 7, 2009, at 13:21 , David J Brooks wrote:


On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Graydon  wrote:


Then again, I got my refund three days after I filed this year, so I
really don't have it in me to complain.

-- Graydon


1997 was the last time i received a refund.




But when's the last time you filed? You have to file to get a refund.  
Oh yes. And be making lots of money each year.



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Re: DA*60-250

[Joseph McAllister]

No such item at all on eBay US - none - zip - zilch.

You must be looking at the one demo unit they made for all the suits  
to ooo and aa over. I knew it would sell cheap all banged up.


:-)


On Mar 7, 2009, at 14:22 , Frits Wüthrich wrote:


Yes, on eBay, but for about $1700 or more.


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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[pnstenquist]

This one may fall into the "unusual and probably no one wants it" ebay gaff 
exclusion category.
Paul
- "Doug Brewer"  wrote:

> Joseph McAllister wrote:
> > for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow them
> to.  
> > Or I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in the
> 
> > Pacific Northwest...
> > 
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Copy and paste the entire url or just go to eBay and search for a
> Pentax 
> > A* 600mm.  (The hideous Green one.)
> 
> uh oh
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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

[Ken Waller]

You gotta love the name of that airline - WizzAir !

Appears dark on my monitor also.

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In a message dated 3/7/2009 7:11:27 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time,
tim...@clancode.hu  writes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/

Took on the  airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :)

Any londonese who want  to do some photowalking sometimes?  :D

..timber


Think it's too dark.

But I LOVE  Poetry in a Running World. Beautiful. Kids can concentrate to 
the

exclusion of  all else much better than adults.



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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[Ken Waller]

Or if you a U. S. politician, you don't pay your taxes.
Just check out all the recent nominees for leading offices that have been 
'embarrassed.

But they were sorry, it was just an oversight on their part.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: RE: Silly question (enablement)


Luckily for me I don't have to fill in tax returns any more, but when I 
did
I could never understand the point. After all, the government doesn't 
trust
us to do it right so they calculate our taxes anyway and tell us whether 
or
not we've got it right, against which decision there seems to be no 
appeal,

so why do they make people do it themselves at all?

Then, when they've got all our money they just give it to some fat bastard
banker who's just destroyed the nation's economy for the next 25 years.

Viva la revolucion! Viva!

Bob





Dave,
After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
buy things.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, David J Brooks
 wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller
 wrote:
>> Sounds like a tax refund to me
>
> Wazzz that.??
>
> Dave



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Re: OT PESO - Who Knows What Evil Lurks in the Hearts of Men?

[Larry Colen]

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 08:40:02PM +0900, David Savage wrote:

> I'm not really in my element in a studio, but I'm working on it.

Go there at night, set up a shot with a window in the frame, and a
clear sky behind it. Turn out the lights in the studio and take it
from there.


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Re: I can't afford it, but...

[Doug Brewer]

Joseph McAllister wrote:
for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow them to.  
Or I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in the 
Pacific Northwest...


http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 



Copy and paste the entire url or just go to eBay and search for a Pentax 
A* 600mm.  (The hideous Green one.)


uh oh

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Re: Poor FEDEX service

[Joseph McAllister]

On Mar 7, 2009, at 15:06 , Keith Whaley wrote:


Third, downplay the actual cost of the item.
If it's really expensive, I don't know what to tell you, but a small  
package with thousands of dollars of worth of insurance is  
automatically marked for attention!


I don't know how USPS handles it, but I'm with Ann. I'd use USPS  
before any of the others, if it's really valuable.



 My mother and my sister have over time (60 years or so) bought and  
had repaired many valuable pieces of jewelry and pocket watches.


Their jewelers had always recommended USPS, small box, handwritten  
address, return address label with flower or some such, return  
receipt, NO INSURANCE.  The jewelers use their home address or a P.O.  
Box for a return address on the boxes they mail back to you. Never  
lost an item going either way.


I've been told, but don't know for sure, that small batches of  
diamonds are shipped between jewelers the same way, or were.



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I can't afford it, but...

[Joseph McAllister]

for sale on eBay is a lens that someone's tax refund may allow them  
to.  Or I would consider going in on a group purchase with anyone in  
the Pacific Northwest...


http://cgi.ebay.com/smc-PENTAX-A-600mm-f-5-6-ED-IF-Exc-K20D-K10D-K100D_W0QQitemZ400033452823QQihZ027QQcategoryZ3323QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Copy and paste the entire url or just go to eBay and search for a  
Pentax A* 600mm.  (The hideous Green one.)



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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/7/2009 3:51:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
p...@web-options.com writes:
Go and stand over there, next to Juan Buhler.  

That's probably the best nature gallery I've seen on PDML. Quite  stunning.
It could probably lose half a dozen to 10 pictures to make it even  better,
but it's really quite superb as a whole.

Bob  
=
What he said. Lovely, beautiful, great. Hard to pick out  favorites when I 
like so many, but I did especially like the bird at the end and  the ice on the 
leaves, couple of shots. And well, lots, lots more...

Beautiful gallery, Toine. You obviously love the place,  because appreciation 
for place really comes across in the  photos.

Okay, you're added to my hate list.

Marnie aka Doe   (And I looked at every one, because it was a pleasure.)


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> Subject: Re: PESO:  Beer or coke?
> 
> Just for fun I created a gallery of the  region.
> 
> http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/
> 
>  Toine


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Re: Silly question (enablement)

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On 3/7/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dave,
>  After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
>  all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
>  fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
>  process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
>  off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
>  successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
>  taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
>  a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
>  correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
>  buy things.
>  Regards,  Bob S.

The new 1040EZ (old joke)
1.  How much did you make?
2.  Send it to us.

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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

[Rick Womer]

I would love to have a London PDML sometime before the end of June!

Rick

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--- On Sat, 3/7/09, tim...@clancode.hu  wrote:

> 
> Took on the airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane
> :)
> 
> Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes?
> :D
> 
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Re: PESO - Shell and Pebbles

[Rick Womer]

That's what intrigued me, Bob--I had never thought about sand being such a 
mixture before.

It lost something in the JPG translation--the orginal RAW has texture in the 
sand that make one's eyes hurt.  Maybe I'll try again with a larger JPG file...

Rick

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--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:


> Rick,
> That's interesting.  The sand seems to have glass beads
> in it, making
> for an unusual texture.
> Regards, Bob S.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Rick Womer
>  wrote:
> >
> > Another from the beach at Hammonassett State Park in
> Connecticut:
> >
> >
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8665274&size=lg
> >
> > (K10D and DA 50-200).
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[David Savage]

2009/3/8 David J Brooks :
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Graydon  wrote:
>
>> Then again, I got my refund three days after I filed this year, so I
>> really don't have it in me to complain.
>>
>> -- Graydon
>
> 1997 was the last time i received a refund.

My last refund was 5 years ago & it was for AU$5.16.

Cost me half that to bank the cheque.

DS

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RE: PESO: Beer or coke?

[Bob W]

Go and stand over there, next to Juan Buhler. 

That's probably the best nature gallery I've seen on PDML. Quite stunning.
It could probably lose half a dozen to 10 pictures to make it even better,
but it's really quite superb as a whole.

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
> Behalf Of Toine
> Sent: 07 March 2009 23:39
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO: Beer or coke?
> 
> Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.
> 
> http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/
> 
> Toine
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> >> It's the official cartographic start of a small river (a 
> stream, creek
> >> or brook I don't know the difference) in dutch "beek".
> >
> > The cognate English word is probably 'beck'.
> >
> > Whether something is called a stream, creek, brook, beck or 
> whatever else is
> > available is probably a geohistoricolinguistic accident. I 
> think they all
> > mean the same thing.
> >
> > It's a very interesting set of pictures and I can 
> understand the appeal of
> > the location. One of my favourite parts of Britain is the 
> North Kent Marshes
> > - salt marsh at the estuary of the Thames - also very flat. 
> Particularly
> > bleak and appealing in winter.
> >
> > Bob


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Re: PESO: Beer or coke?

[Toine]

Just for fun I created a gallery of the region.

http://www.repiuk.nl/strijperaa/

Toine



On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> It's the official cartographic start of a small river (a stream, creek
>> or brook I don't know the difference) in dutch "beek".
>
> The cognate English word is probably 'beck'.
>
> Whether something is called a stream, creek, brook, beck or whatever else is
> available is probably a geohistoricolinguistic accident. I think they all
> mean the same thing.
>
> It's a very interesting set of pictures and I can understand the appeal of
> the location. One of my favourite parts of Britain is the North Kent Marshes
> - salt marsh at the estuary of the Thames - also very flat. Particularly
> bleak and appealing in winter.
>
> Bob
>
>
>> Thanks for all your nice comments. Some wondered where and
>> what this is:
>> It's the official cartographic start of a small river (a stream, creek
>> or brook I don't know the difference) in dutch "beek". The whole
>> region is called a "beekdal" or stream valley.
>>
>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.311757,5.536637&spn=0.01
>> 9931,0.0315&z=15
>>
>> Since this is the netherlands everything is flat and a valley is only
>> a few meters difference. The region isn't even a proper "wetland" they
>> installed small water gates to keep the water level in the area high
>> enough for a wetland.
>> Most of the dutch nature is mixed with farmland and worse with lots of
>> cattle and pig breeding, The pig population outnumbers the human
>> population. The resulting manure is used to fertilize the land, since
>> the soil is mainly sand the manure seeps through.
>> What you see is the smelly result captured by the water gate.
>>
>> The good news is I like these pictures and the forest and wetland
>> surrounding this smelly water gate is my favorite foraging spot.
>
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RE: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

[Bob W]

> 
> On 7/3/09, tim...@clancode.hu, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >
> >Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D
> 
> Keep in touch - I have been known to get up to town on occasion.
> Meanwhile I will send my operative Mr Walkden to check you out.
> 

I think we all need a spring trip to Oxford. In fact, it's nearly time for
me to walk from Lechlade to Oxford.

Bob


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First real workout of the K20

[Larry Colen]

I took my K20 to Friday Night Blues last night.  I posted my first
impressions, as it was my first real workout of the camera, on DP
Review.

I'll save bandwidth and just post a pointer for those that are
interested: 
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&message=31233419

The short form is:

I still have a lot to learn both intellectually and kinestheticly (my
fingers don't know where the buttons are yet) to get the most out of
the camera. And while it's not perfect, nor even a D700 in really low
light situations, it is a major improvement over the K100 in both
performance and usability.

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language too long before they have anything to say."  W. Connell 1949

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Re: Poor FEDEX service

[Keith Whaley]

William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele"
Subject: Re: Poor FEDEX service



Believe it or not, the best people I've dealt with as far as getting 
reliable deliveries is the USPS. If I have a choice between UPS and 
the postal service, I'll take the postal service.




absolutely - only way I'll send anything...


My brother works as the comptroller (I think that's the term) for a 
jewelry manufacturer. He tells me that they have yet to find a reliable 
shipper of jewelry, to the point that when it was time to send some of 
my Grandmother's jewelry to a family member a couple of provinces over, 
he waited until a family member was headed in that direction and had it 
delivered by hand.


William Robb


Two things.

First of all, you may not realize FedEx is comprised of contract owners and 
drivers. Someone owns the franchise, and the drivers contract to work for him, 
and they pay for the use of the logo and uniforms, etc.


There ARE no FedEx employees on the road, per se. All truck drivers drive 
decorated trucks and approved uniforms. But, they are not FedEx employees...


Second item:
Disguise anything you send via "common carrier."

If shipping it requires a certain package size and weight, it's almost a 
certainty it contains something valuable. You'll know...
Use wood or any other item of moderate weight, and tape the item you're shipping 
to it, and pack it so it won't rattle around.
I'd even wrap the interior items, disguised tho' they be, in double strength 
aluminum foil, to confuse and disuade thieves with an xray machine.


Third, downplay the actual cost of the item.
If it's really expensive, I don't know what to tell you, but a small package 
with thousands of dollars of worth of insurance is automatically marked for 
attention!


I don't know how USPS handles it, but I'm with Ann. I'd use USPS before any of 
the others, if it's really valuable.


keith whaley


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Re: DA*60-250

[Frits Wüthrich]

Yes, on eBay, but for about $1700 or more.
I see a Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 SP Di-LD for 599 euro,
and a Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 II EX DG APO HSM for 659 euro, this lens has 
hypersonic drive.


Anyone that has experience with either one of these?

Frits

Stan Halpin wrote:

Reading the tea leaves and other cryptic signs on the USA Pentax site:

55/1.4 is shown as New/Buy It Now;
15/4.4 is shown as Coming Soon
60-250/ is shown.

There is an 80-200/2.8 on eBay right now...

stan

On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:


Latest hint from Pentax is late spring 2009 - "production problems"


On Mar 2, 2009, at 15:30 , Frits Wüthrich wrote:

Is there any news about the availability of this lens? I pre ordered 
with TeKaDe, it was suppose to arrive around Christmas, de price has 
gone down in the mean time, and TeKaDe has no idea when the lens 
will arrive. I wonder if I should go for another lens, Tamron or 
Tokina, don't know who has a nice alternative.


Frits


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Re: PESO 007, few spring shots for you

[Paul Stenquist]

Very pleasant. I especially like the first and the last. The mountain  
view doesn't work too well for me. I don't feel that it's framed  
nicely by the foreground elements.

Paul
On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

The spring (or should I say a hot Mediterranean summer) has come  
with quite a presence.


Please have a look and of course a honest and brutal say too.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-007.html

Boris

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/7/2009 10:13:09 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Dave,
After years of  paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
all spare cash to the  government in hopes that it will be enough to
fulfill their yearly  obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
process of archaic  calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
off to our government  by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
successfully navigated the  forms and calculations to determine our
taxes.  On rare occasions, our  hopes are boyed by calculations showing
a refund is due to us.   Sometimes this even proves to be true and
correctly calculated.  Then  the federal eagle delivers a check and we
buy things.
Regards,  Bob  S.

===
Sheesh, Bob is rubbing off on you, Bob.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)

-
Warning: I  am now filtering my email, so you may be censored.  

**Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a 
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Re: PESO: Spring Roll

[Tim Bray]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8673718&size=lg

That's lovely, bring a smile to the face.  -T

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Re: PESO 007, few spring shots for you

[David J Brooks]

I like #'s 1 and 4.

Looks to hot for me.:-)

Dave

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The spring (or should I say a hot Mediterranean summer) has come with quite
> a presence.
>
> Please have a look and of course a honest and brutal say too.
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-007.html
>
> Boris
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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[David J Brooks]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Graydon  wrote:

> Then again, I got my refund three days after I filed this year, so I
> really don't have it in me to complain.
>
> -- Graydon

1997 was the last time i received a refund.

Dave
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Re: 15mm F4....

[Jim King]

William Robb wrote on Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:21:38 -0800

- Original Message - From: "Jim King"
Subject: Re: 15mm F4Agree about WA lenses. While I have the  
DA14, it's really too big for many

types of shooting; I'm looking forward to getting the DA15.

Try the A15/3.5 sometime. Slightly larger than the DA14, probably 3  
times the weight.

It does have a really funky front element though.


Yeah, I have the A15/3.5 - it's a *really* heavy beast for sure, and  
the IQ I get from it on digital is much
poorer than what I get from the lighter and smaller DA14.  You're  
right about that front element, too...
Here's a shot of it on my *ist-D: http://www.pbase.com/jamesk8752/image/44516985 
.


Regards, Jim

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RE: PESO 007, few spring shots for you

[Bob W]

> 
> Hi!
> 
> The spring (or should I say a hot Mediterranean summer) has come with 
> quite a presence.
> 
> Please have a look and of course a honest and brutal say too.
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-007.html
> 
> Boris
> 

For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;
The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come,
and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;
The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender
grape give a good smell.

Solomon


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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

[Cotty]

On 7/3/09, tim...@clancode.hu, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D

Keep in touch - I have been known to get up to town on occasion.
Meanwhile I will send my operative Mr Walkden to check you out.

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[Stan Halpin]

On Mar 6, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Cory Waters wrote:

As a purely hypothetical , lets just say you had maybe $2500 to  
spend free and clear of any guilt. Lets also say you were inclined  
to spend said clams on new lenses.  We'll say you have a K10, the  
DA 50-200 & 18-55, a FA 28-105 f3.2-4.5, and a FA 50 1.7 (there are  
some other manual focus lenses but we're focusing on newer stuff).  
Further, lets assume that we're going to buy new lenses from an  
online retailer (probably Amazon) and they need to be available for  
sale now or at least in a couple months. Assume we shoot lots of  
family-type shots (kids, vacations, scenic stuff from camping  
trips, etc), some sports (racing, football), and some more artsy or  
flower stuff on occasion. How would you spend it?


I've been thinking:
90/100 macro (from whom?)
70-200 2.8 (Sigma? A TC to go with it?)
DA* 16-50 (it's maybe too big for walk around/vacation and I wish  
it went out to 85mm)

M Limited.  But 43 or 31?  77? The new 55?

Cory
quite possibly counting unborn-chickens

Without trying to count the number of chickens that would need to  
come home to roost, I would suggest:


DA21mm
DA55mm
FA77 Ltd
DA*16-50 or DA17-70
Keep the 50-200 rather than switching for the DA*50-135.
Don't buy a macro lens per se, several of the above have adequate  
close focusing which, combined with judicious cropping, should  
satisify a macro itch occasionally.


Alternative suggestion:
DA17-70
FA* 80-200 [there was one recently on eBay that did not sell with a  
BIN of $1795 IIRC.] Yes, 'tis big and heavy, but these two lenses  
would be all you need.


Stan

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Re: PESO 007, few spring shots for you

[Jack Davis]

Could have looked at many more. Very nice, Boris!

Jack


--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> From: Boris Liberman 
> Subject: PESO 007, few spring shots for you
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 10:35 AM
> Hi!
> 
> The spring (or should I say a hot Mediterranean summer) has
> come with quite a presence.
> 
> Please have a look and of course a honest and brutal say
> too.
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-007.html
> 
> Boris
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Re: PESO 007, few spring shots for you

[Toine]

Lovely colours and #2 is my fav. 33 deg C, wow!
#1 is a popular pot plant over here.

Toine

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The spring (or should I say a hot Mediterranean summer) has come with quite
> a presence.
>
> Please have a look and of course a honest and brutal say too.
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-007.html
>
> Boris
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Re: 15mm F4....

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Subash  wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:37:00 -0500
> Adam Maas  wrote:
>
>
>> > like i said, no offence meant, i am really curious...
>
>
>> What I've been looking for is a body akin to the FE2 and FM2n, with
>> good high ISO performance (ISO 3200 minimum), decent resolution and a
>> viewfinder comparable to those bodies, along with compact size and
>> reasonable weight. Which is why I've been shuffling around so many
>> digital bodies (At last count, in order: *istD, D50, K100D, EOS 10D,
>> *istDS, K10D, D300 later with a D40 as a second body and now G1).
>
> thanks, Adam and i'll say it again, WOW! :-)
>
> i am pretty much a greenhorn when it comes to dslrs, i've just used the
> *ist DS and the K10D and in many ways i actually think the *ist DS was
> a much better camera for *me* (a more comfortable and a much more
> discreet size and better noise performance at >ISO 800 *and* better
> performance with the older manual lenses).
>
> and i *have* enjoyed reading, over the years, your varied experience on
> the different bodies/formats. one of the reasons i remembered most of
> them... :)
> - Show quoted text -
> regards, subash
>

The DS is a superb little camera, I very much liked mine and still
miss it in some ways. From a straight body-design standpoint it's
actually my favourite of the Pentax bodies (Best grip design in
particular). Pentax could do worse than to stuff the K20D' imaging
system and SR into a DS body as sell it as the K300D, with it being
placed between the K20D and K-m in the lineup.



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Re: 15mm F4....

[Subash]

On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:37:00 -0500
Adam Maas  wrote:


> > like i said, no offence meant, i am really curious...


> What I've been looking for is a body akin to the FE2 and FM2n, with
> good high ISO performance (ISO 3200 minimum), decent resolution and a
> viewfinder comparable to those bodies, along with compact size and
> reasonable weight. Which is why I've been shuffling around so many
> digital bodies (At last count, in order: *istD, D50, K100D, EOS 10D,
> *istDS, K10D, D300 later with a D40 as a second body and now G1). 

thanks, Adam and i'll say it again, WOW! :-)

i am pretty much a greenhorn when it comes to dslrs, i've just used the
*ist DS and the K10D and in many ways i actually think the *ist DS was
a much better camera for *me* (a more comfortable and a much more
discreet size and better noise performance at >ISO 800 *and* better
performance with the older manual lenses). 

and i *have* enjoyed reading, over the years, your varied experience on
the different bodies/formats. one of the reasons i remembered most of
them... :)

regards, subash

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[Graydon]

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 11:52:09AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
> - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks"
>> Interesting.
>
>> Maybe we should try that up here.:-)
>
>> Dave, who pays and pays, Brooks
>
> Do you think you'd ever get a refund if you had to depend on a beaver
> for delivery?

They tried black flies one year.  No one escaped, but RevCan felt it
didn't convey the right image.

Then again, I got my refund three days after I filed this year, so I
really don't have it in me to complain.

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[Bob Sullivan]

I know, I know.  But Obama's gonna fix that for us.  More taxes for
all!   ;-)   Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:49 AM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan"
> Subject: Re: Silly question (enablement)
>
>
>> Dave,
>> After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
>> all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
>> fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
>> process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
>> off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
>> successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
>> taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
>> a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
>> correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
>> buy things.
>
> Wow, Bob.
>
> If you think you are overtaxed, you should try Canada, or GB, or most any EU
> country
> Mind you, in theory, some of my tax goes towards health care, but you have
> to survive the waiting list long enough to get in.
>
> William Robb
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Re: 15mm F4....

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Subash  wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:51:34 -0500
> Adam Maas  wrote:
>
>
>> 10-20 at 10mm when I was still shooting APS-C and now my Tamron 17/3.5
>> is my go to lens for wide-angle work (Equivalent to an 11.5mm on
>> APS-C, I'm shooting 35mm film these days)
>
> adam, no offence meant but in the 2.5+ years i have been on this list,
> i have seen you go from a k100d, an *ist DS, a k10d, film, MF,
> things-i-forget, d300, panny g1, things-i-forget, film again... and all
> i can say is WOW! ;-)
>
> what are you really looking for? or is that too frivolous a question?
>
> like i said, no offence meant, i am really curious...
>
> regards, subash

Note I'm still shooting with the G1 as well. It's partnered with a
pair of old Nikon film cameras (FE2 and FM2n) as my main kit at the
moment. I also still shoot MF, but for various reasons I mostly don't
shoot MF during the winter. Generally I shoot more digital when I'm
doing colour work and more film when doing B&W work. And I've been
shooting Nikon film kit without break since 2001 while going through
all those DSLR's.

What I've been looking for is a body akin to the FE2 and FM2n, with
good high ISO performance (ISO 3200 minimum), decent resolution and a
viewfinder comparable to those bodies, along with compact size and
reasonable weight. Which is why I've been shuffling around so many
digital bodies (At last count, in order: *istD, D50, K100D, EOS 10D,
*istDS, K10D, D300 later with a D40 as a second body and now G1). The
K10D and D300 were the closest to what I was looking for, but I needed
more high ISO capability than the K10D delivered and the D300 was
frankly just too big (Other than size and the merely decent VF by my
standards, the D300 pretty much nailed what I was looking for). I
didn't look at the K20D for lens lineup reasons, I very much like
Pentax's lineup except for the lack of f1.4 lenses outside the 50-58mm
range (My Nikkor 35/1.4 is a bread and butter lens for me these days),
I'd really like to see Pentax deliver a f1.4 normal and wide-normal
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Re: Pentax DA 14mm

[Margus Männik]

Christine,

come change to Estonia - every Pentax original lens (including fix 
lenses) is freely available. Boring, isn't it? :)


BR, Margus


Christine Aguila wrote:
I was at Calumet Photo today and asked if I could try out the DA 14mm 
they had in the showcase.  Would you believe it:  it was broken; it 
wouldn't focus.  Moreover, they didn't have any Pentax primes in 
stock.  I've got my name down for a phone call when the 15mm & 21mm 
etc come in, but Calumet, as of today, doesn't know when the shipment 
will come in. Also, Calumet rents equipment, but they don't offer any 
Pentax stuff.  I told them they should start, but I doubt they will.   
Tough day at the camera store for the Pentax shooter.  Cheers, Christine



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PESO 007, few spring shots for you

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

The spring (or should I say a hot Mediterranean summer) has come with 
quite a presence.


Please have a look and of course a honest and brutal say too.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-007.html

Boris

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W"

Subject: RE: Silly question (enablement)


Luckily for me I don't have to fill in tax returns any more, but when I 
did
I could never understand the point. After all, the government doesn't 
trust
us to do it right so they calculate our taxes anyway and tell us whether 
or
not we've got it right, against which decision there seems to be no 
appeal,

so why do they make people do it themselves at all?



If you do it wrong often enough, they fine you for tax evasion and then you 
get to pay even more.


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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks"

Subject: Re: Silly question (enablement)








Mind you, in theory, some of my tax goes towards health care, but you have
to survive the waiting list long enough to get in.


Or, convince ER doctors, your to sick to be sent home.


No guarantee. Didn't they have a few deaths while waiting treatment in one 
of the Winnipeg ERs a while back?


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RE: Silly question (enablement)

[Bob W]

Luckily for me I don't have to fill in tax returns any more, but when I did
I could never understand the point. After all, the government doesn't trust
us to do it right so they calculate our taxes anyway and tell us whether or
not we've got it right, against which decision there seems to be no appeal,
so why do they make people do it themselves at all? 

Then, when they've got all our money they just give it to some fat bastard
banker who's just destroyed the nation's economy for the next 25 years.

Viva la revolucion! Viva!

Bob 



> 
> Dave,
> After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
> all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
> fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
> process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
> off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
> successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
> taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
> a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
> correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
> buy things.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, David J Brooks 
>  wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller 
>  wrote:
> >> Sounds like a tax refund to me
> >
> > Wazzz that.??
> >
> > Dave
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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks"

Subject: Re: Silly question (enablement)



Interesting.



Maybe we should try that up here.:-)



Dave, who pays and pays, Brooks


Do you think you'd ever get a refund if you had to depend on a beaver for 
delivery?


William Robb



On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Dave,
After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
fulfill their yearly obligation. At this time of year, we begin a
process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe. We send these
off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
taxes. On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
a refund is due to us. Sometimes this even proves to be true and
correctly calculated. Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
buy things.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, David J Brooks  
wrote:

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Sounds like a tax refund to me


Wazzz that.??

Dave


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Re: PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 3/7/2009 7:11:27 A.M. Pacific  Standard Time, 
tim...@clancode.hu  writes:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/

Took on the  airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :)

Any londonese who want  to do some photowalking sometimes?  :D

..timber


Think it's too dark.

But I LOVE  Poetry in a Running World. Beautiful. Kids can concentrate to the 
exclusion of  all else much better than adults.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[David J Brooks]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:49 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan"
> Subject: Re: Silly question (enablement)
>
>
>> Dave,
>> After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
>> all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
>> fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
>> process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
>> off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
>> successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
>> taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
>> a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
>> correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
>> buy things.
>
> Wow, Bob.
>
> If you think you are overtaxed, you should try Canada, or GB, or most any EU
> country
> Mind you, in theory, some of my tax goes towards health care, but you have
> to survive the waiting list long enough to get in.

Or, convince ER doctors, your to sick to be sent home.

Dave
>
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Re: 15mm F4....

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim King"

Subject: Re: 15mm F4





Agree about WA lenses.  While I have the DA14, it's really too big for 
many

types of shooting; I'm looking forward to getting the DA15.



Try the A15/3.5 sometime. Slightly larger than the DA14, probably 3 times 
the weight.

It does have a really funky front element though.

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Re: Get out there and do the barns

[David J Brooks]

Old barns are one of my favorite subjects.

Dave

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Joseph McAllister  wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/nyregion/connecticut/08barnsct.html
>
>
> Joseph McAllister
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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[David J Brooks]

Interesting.

Maybe we should try that up here.:-)

Dave, who pays and pays, Brooks

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dave,
> After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
> all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
> fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
> process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
> off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
> successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
> taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
> a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
> correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
> buy things.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>> Sounds like a tax refund to me
>>
>> Wazzz that.??
>>
>> Dave
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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan"

Subject: Re: Silly question (enablement)



Dave,
After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
buy things.


Wow, Bob.

If you think you are overtaxed, you should try Canada, or GB, or most any EU 
country
Mind you, in theory, some of my tax goes towards health care, but you have 
to survive the waiting list long enough to get in.


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Re: 15mm F4....

[Jim King]

Adam Maas wrote on Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:51:52 -0800


The 21 is about where wide angle begins for APS-C cameras. It's a
great lens, but not all that wide. The 15 is right around the 90
degree FoV range that is the bread and butter for real wide-angle
shooting. Personally I like to go a bit wider, I generally used my
10-20 at 10mm when I was still shooting APS-C and now my Tamron 17/3.5
is my go to lens for wide-angle work (Equivalent to an 11.5mm on
APS-C, I'm shooting 35mm film these days)

Here's a couple of examples of what sort of wide-angle work I do:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2735532996_1204b11fa8_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2500371507_7595d86819_o.jpg


Agree about WA lenses.  While I have the DA14, it's really too big for  
many

types of shooting; I'm looking forward to getting the DA15.

I especially like your second image; it really uses the lens effectively
without overwhelming the viewer with perspective distortion.

Regards, Jim


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Re: PESO - Shell and Pebbles

[Bob Sullivan]

Rick,
That's interesting.  The sand seems to have glass beads in it, making
for an unusual texture.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> Another from the beach at Hammonassett State Park in Connecticut:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8665274&size=lg
>
> (K10D and DA 50-200).
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: 15mm F4....

[Subash]

On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:51:34 -0500
Adam Maas  wrote:


> 10-20 at 10mm when I was still shooting APS-C and now my Tamron 17/3.5
> is my go to lens for wide-angle work (Equivalent to an 11.5mm on
> APS-C, I'm shooting 35mm film these days)

adam, no offence meant but in the 2.5+ years i have been on this list,
i have seen you go from a k100d, an *ist DS, a k10d, film, MF,
things-i-forget, d300, panny g1, things-i-forget, film again... and all
i can say is WOW! ;-)

what are you really looking for? or is that too frivolous a question? 

like i said, no offence meant, i am really curious...

regards, subash

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

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Dave,
After years of paying taxes, some US taxpayers simply give up and send
all spare cash to the government in hopes that it will be enough to
fulfill their yearly obligation.  At this time of year, we begin a
process of archaic calculations to derive what we owe.  We send these
off to our government by April 15th, and they figure out if we have
successfully navigated the forms and calculations to determine our
taxes.  On rare occasions, our hopes are boyed by calculations showing
a refund is due to us.  Sometimes this even proves to be true and
correctly calculated.  Then the federal eagle delivers a check and we
buy things.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:50 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> Sounds like a tax refund to me
>
> Wazzz that.??
>
> Dave

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Get out there and do the barns

[Joseph McAllister]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/nyregion/connecticut/08barnsct.html


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Re: PESO: untitled

[Bob Sullivan]

Bruce, Frank, Joseph, Marnie, Luiz, Mike, Christine, and Dave,
Thanks for looking and commenting.
I wondered if the picture captured the puzzle I saw.

The story:
Wifey & I went in to the old botanic conservatory on the Chicago lakefront.
I noticed a 20 something woman with a short afro sitting on a bench as
we entered.
She was simply dressed in all black and held one hand cupped on her lap.
Lynn & I moved thru 3 houses and settled in the 4th - used for the
sping display.
I sat a while and soaked it the surroundings and the people passing by.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8667703&size=lg
As I sat there, the young woman in black entered the greenhouse.
She stopped at various points and stood motionless for a time,
always with the left hand cupped in front of her.
She stopped near me, acoss from a potted plant with good sized white
flowers in a globe above.
She paused motionless for 2 or 3 minutes, then she stepped forward and
picked up the pedals of a fallen blossom and gently placed them on the
top of the pot.
It took her 3 or 4 passes to get all the pedals, and then she was done
moving off quietly.
I don't know what I saw, but it seemed spiritual in some way.
I wondered if the photo captured any of that.
Thanks for looking,  Bob S.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Here's a photo that I caught yesterday.
> Some things made the situation unique.
> I don't know if this captures it.
> Tell me what you feel.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8667736&size=lg
>
> Regards,  Bob S.
>

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Re: PESO: Bridezilla about to go into the studio

[David J Brooks]

Good stuff. Nice colours.

Number 19 is a good one.

Dave

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> They played one last Sydney gig (there is one more Melbourne gig), before
> going into the studio.
>
> Someone was asking about the Samyang 85mm/1.4. I'm rather pleased with the
> lens. Quite crisp, and a lovely bokeh. Manual focusing rules.
>
> The gallery is a mix of that lens and a 35mm/1.4 Voigtländer Nokton. Can you
> pick which photos were taken with which?
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_03/09_03_prestudio/index.htm
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PESO - Shell and Pebbles

[Rick Womer]

Another from the beach at Hammonassett State Park in Connecticut:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8665274&size=lg

(K10D and DA 50-200).

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Re: 15mm F4....

[Adam Maas]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> OK, I confess to being a relative newbie in taking photography
> seriously, but, um... what would you use a lens like that for?  I have
> the 21mm pancake Limited and boy, it grabs a huge piece of the
> landscape... -Tim
> - Show quoted text -

Tim,

The 21 is about where wide angle begins for APS-C cameras. It's a
great lens, but not all that wide. The 15 is right around the 90
degree FoV range that is the bread and butter for real wide-angle
shooting. Personally I like to go a bit wider, I generally used my
10-20 at 10mm when I was still shooting APS-C and now my Tamron 17/3.5
is my go to lens for wide-angle work (Equivalent to an 11.5mm on
APS-C, I'm shooting 35mm film these days)

Here's a couple of examples of what sort of wide-angle work I do:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2735532996_1204b11fa8_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2500371507_7595d86819_o.jpg

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Re: PESO: Spring Roll

[Joseph McAllister]

Delightful photo of the photogenic child of PDML.

Now, let's talk about those fangs she is growing. Should we worry?  
Should you Photoshop them?


:-)


On Mar 7, 2009, at 07:24 , Paul Stenquist wrote:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8673718&size=lg



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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Sounds like a tax refund to me

Wazzz that.??

Dave
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> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
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> - Original Message - From: "Cory Waters" 
> Subject: Silly question (enablement)
>
>
>> As a purely hypothetical , lets just say you had maybe $2500 to spend free
>> and clear of any guilt. Lets also say you were inclined to spend said clams
>> on new lenses.  We'll say you have a K10, the DA 50-200 & 18-55, a FA 28-105
>> f3.2-4.5, and a FA 50 1.7 (there are some other manual focus lenses but
>> we're focusing on newer stuff). Further, lets assume that we're going to buy
>> new lenses from an online retailer (probably Amazon) and they need to be
>> available for sale now or at least in a couple months. Assume we shoot lots
>> of family-type shots (kids, vacations, scenic stuff from camping trips,
>> etc), some sports (racing, football), and some more artsy or flower stuff on
>> occasion. How would you spend it?
>>
>> I've been thinking:
>> 90/100 macro (from whom?)
>> 70-200 2.8 (Sigma? A TC to go with it?)
>> DA* 16-50 (it's maybe too big for walk around/vacation and I wish it went
>> out to 85mm)
>> M Limited.  But 43 or 31?  77? The new 55?
>>
>> Cory
>> quite possibly counting unborn-chickens
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Re: PESO: Spring Roll

[David J Brooks]

I see a book forming here. :-)

Dave

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Re: PESO: Spring Roll

[Bob Sullivan]

Paul,
Nice to see Grace again.  The shot is joyful and the hair is marvelous!
Hope spring is here soon.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO: Spring Roll

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Jack. It's not officially spring of course, but we got within a  
hair of 70 yesterday, so it was time to go back to the park.

Paul
On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Jack Davis wrote:



She's the perfect symbol of the hope and optimism of spring!


Jack

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Re: PESO: Spring Roll

[Jack Davis]

She's the perfect symbol of the hope and optimism of spring! 


Jack

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Re: Unsurprising sadness

[Graydon]

On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:40:32PM +, mike wilson scripsit:
> The ribbon cable part of the integrated electronic might be slightly
> problematic but, really, if you gave the average person a gear wheel
> or a piece of electronic whizzery and asked them to make you a couple
> of hundred of each themself would their reaction be any different?
> Both require people with specialist skills and equipment. By far the
> hardest part of the electronics to reproduce is the code. Everything
> else is rattled off production lines in factories by the bucketfull.

This year's ICs are, yes; those from five years ago, not so much, those
from 10 years ago, hardly at all.

What digital really means is that all the complexity that used to live
in the chemical plant that made the film has moved into the camera.

Any give camera represents a very specific slice through the state of
the technology; a custom image engine chip on a custom PCB (printed
circuit board) with a funny shape, done to whatever process would do the
job and was cheapest at the time.  There isn't any way anybody is going
to replicate that on a hobby basis.  (Military procurement sometimes
gets stuck trying to do that, and it functions even more like lighting
bushels of money on fire than military procurement usually does.)

So I really doubt there's going to be a small-shop digital camera
rebuild business going; if the tech gets good enough that this is
physical possible at all (put copper wire, sand, and random bits of junk
in the fabber, get ICs out, tech) the small shop guys will be
custom-making cameras for the retro crowd who hate the idea of having
recorders on their optic nerves.

-- Graydon

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Re: Banana Joe has delivered his load (PDML Annual)

[Brendan MacRae]

Banana Joe has delivered his load ...ah, um...MARK!

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> From: Dario Bonazza 
> Subject: Banana Joe has delivered his load (PDML Annual)
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 5:19 AM
> At last! My book has just arrived,
> and it was shipped from Switzerland. I wonder if Blurb have
> a printing house in Europe too.
> No comments of my own on the pictures and the book as a
> whole, as most here have already expressed their
> appreciation, better than I could do. Just a big THANKS to
> all those who contributed and to the few who put this great
> thing together.
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PESO: Spring Roll

[Paul Stenquist]

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PESO: Airport miniautre like :)

[timber]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/

Took on the airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :)

Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D

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Re: Where are the Portrait lenses?

[Boris Liberman]

Quoting:

"Pentax (the one company, I think, that really understands primes right 
now, as evidenced by the new 15mm F4".


They have my, ummm, sympathy ;-). I mean the article author.

Boris


Tim Bray wrote:

Nice piece in DPReview:
http://blog.dpreview.com/editorial/2009/03/where-are-the-portrait-lenses.html

Comments are interesting too. -T

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

[Boris Liberman]

Cory, I'd go for a set of primes, such as DA 15 Ltd, DA 21 Ltd, FA 31 
Ltd, FA 43 Ltd, and FA 77 Ltd. And I would go for A 50/1.2 as well.


As well I would suggest a Katz Eye screen and a good flash unit.

In zoom department you might want to replace your 18-55 with 17-70/4 
which is said to be quite good.


Well, sans the zoom, this are the lenses I have or plan on having (DA 15 
notably).


Boris (in dire need of a battery grip)


Cory Waters wrote:
As a purely hypothetical , lets just say you had maybe $2500 to spend 
free and clear of any guilt. Lets also say you were inclined to spend 
said clams on new lenses.  We'll say you have a K10, the DA 50-200 & 
18-55, a FA 28-105 f3.2-4.5, and a FA 50 1.7 (there are some other 
manual focus lenses but we're focusing on newer stuff). Further, lets 
assume that we're going to buy new lenses from an online retailer 
(probably Amazon) and they need to be available for sale now or at least 
in a couple months. Assume we shoot lots of family-type shots (kids, 
vacations, scenic stuff from camping trips, etc), some sports (racing, 
football), and some more artsy or flower stuff on occasion. How would 
you spend it?


I've been thinking:
90/100 macro (from whom?)
70-200 2.8 (Sigma? A TC to go with it?)
DA* 16-50 (it's maybe too big for walk around/vacation and I wish it 
went out to 85mm)

M Limited.  But 43 or 31?  77? The new 55?

Cory
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Re: Silly question (enablement)

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Looking at your kit, I'd start with the DA* 16-50 and 50-135. Both are  
almost as fast as primes and autofocus faster than Pentax FA primes.  
I'd probably add the DA 200 as well or perhaps the Sigma 70-200. I  
would then sell the three zooms you own now and add the 31 Limited or  
the FA 35/2.

Paul
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Graydon wrote:


Cory Waters :
As a purely hypothetical , lets just say you had maybe $2500 to  
spend free
and clear of any guilt. Lets also say you were inclined to spend  
said clams
on new lenses.  We'll say you have a K10, the DA 50-200 & 18-55, a  
FA 28-105
f3.2-4.5, and a FA 50 1.7 (there are some other manual focus  
lenses but
we're focusing on newer stuff). Further, lets assume that we're  
going to buy
new lenses from an online retailer (probably Amazon) and they need  
to be
available for sale now or at least in a couple months. Assume we  
shoot lots
of family-type shots (kids, vacations, scenic stuff from camping  
trips,
etc), some sports (racing, football), and some more artsy or  
flower stuff on

occasion. How would you spend it?



I've been thinking:
90/100 macro (from whom?)
70-200 2.8 (Sigma? A TC to go with it?)
DA* 16-50 (it's maybe too big for walk around/vacation and I wish  
it went

out to 85mm)
M Limited.  But 43 or 31?  77? The new 55?


Or the 35; it's a very respectable walk around lens and is plausibly  
the

best flower lens going in colour rendering terms.

The 55-300 is excellent value; if you do occasional sports, it will
cover the long end pretty well and not cost you that much.

If you're wishing the 16-50 went to 85, the 77mm limited would seem to
be an obvious choice; it's a good kid lens on the evidence of my  
neeves.

(Kids mean you want all the speed you can get, and then some,
generally.)

I prefer the FA 100 to the DFA 100; the FA has the focus limiter, but
you can't buy it new.  Using a macro lens as a portrait lens more or
less requires the focus limiter.

If you to a lot of people shots, I'd certainly be considering the new
DA* 55.

If you wish the 16-50 went to 85, the 77 is the obvious limited  
choice.


-- Graydon, who figures the real limit is what you're going to carry.

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Re: Silly question (enablement)

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Cory Waters :
> > As a purely hypothetical , lets just say you had maybe $2500 to spend free
> > and clear of any guilt. Lets also say you were inclined to spend said clams
> > on new lenses.  We'll say you have a K10, the DA 50-200 & 18-55, a FA 28-105
> > f3.2-4.5, and a FA 50 1.7 (there are some other manual focus lenses but
> > we're focusing on newer stuff). Further, lets assume that we're going to buy
> > new lenses from an online retailer (probably Amazon) and they need to be
> > available for sale now or at least in a couple months. Assume we shoot lots
> > of family-type shots (kids, vacations, scenic stuff from camping trips,
> > etc), some sports (racing, football), and some more artsy or flower stuff on
> > occasion. How would you spend it?

> > I've been thinking:
> > 90/100 macro (from whom?)
> > 70-200 2.8 (Sigma? A TC to go with it?)
> > DA* 16-50 (it's maybe too big for walk around/vacation and I wish it went
> > out to 85mm)
> > M Limited.  But 43 or 31?  77? The new 55?

Or the 35; it's a very respectable walk around lens and is plausibly the
best flower lens going in colour rendering terms.

The 55-300 is excellent value; if you do occasional sports, it will
cover the long end pretty well and not cost you that much.

If you're wishing the 16-50 went to 85, the 77mm limited would seem to
be an obvious choice; it's a good kid lens on the evidence of my neeves.
(Kids mean you want all the speed you can get, and then some,
generally.)

I prefer the FA 100 to the DFA 100; the FA has the focus limiter, but
you can't buy it new.  Using a macro lens as a portrait lens more or
less requires the focus limiter.

If you to a lot of people shots, I'd certainly be considering the new
DA* 55.

If you wish the 16-50 went to 85, the 77 is the obvious limited choice.

-- Graydon, who figures the real limit is what you're going to carry.

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