Re: GESO - Creative Sydney

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Derby:  More great concert shots, but especially like the 1st one below 
and the 2nd one below is nice too.  cheers, Christine


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_creativesydney/12.htm
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_creativesydney/11.htm




- Original Message - 
From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:15 PM
Subject: GESO - Creative Sydney




I know I'm late to the party, but must say, SDM is just such a pleasure to 
use. I wouldn't normally use a 200mm at a gig, but this just arrived from 
KEH this week, so why not. Love it.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_06/09_06_creativesydney/index.htm

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Re: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Wow!  That's a great shot--2 bolts!  Pretty impressive.  Cheers, Christine


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From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de

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Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:32 PM
Subject: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning


...very, very frightening.

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/17435863

Just one of a number of quite spectacular storms on the night of May 25
at the French channel coast. A few minutes later I had to get back into
the car because the rain was so strong that I couldn't even continue
shooting under the tailgate. Pit really.

Taken above the tarmac of the former Boulogne Hoverport.

As always, your comments... :-)

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker ~ Fri. 6-12 update

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila
If I remember correctly, didn't she say she was redoing her condo and that 
she had car problems, which was why she couldn't come to GFM.  Maybe she got 
the car fixed and is away on vacation.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker ~ Fri. 6-12 update


Her Mom died some months back  I'm hoping she is just  busy with 
personal things or away...  she's a bit  ahem younger than you and I 
Keith.


ann

Joseph McAllister wrote:

Just checked her website, and got her alternate email address. 
doead...@aol.com  and sent a msg. No bounce yet.


It's possible her mom died, and she is making arrangements, selling  the 
house, or cleaning it out. I'm going to set this worry aside until 
something more is found out.



On Jun 12, 2009, at 16:28 , Keith Whaley wrote:


Joseph McAllister wrote:


Thanks for trying, Bruce.
I think she is the only member we have on that side of the Bay.  Don't 
know her last name, so can't do much more.
We old and infirm should keep better track of each other. All I  have 
is my next door neighbor, who would go several days without  seeing me. 
He may miss the dogs being out in the evening when he  returns from 
work.



Her last name's Parker. Lives up near Walnut Creek in the Bay Area.



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PESO 2009 - 098 - GDG

2009-06-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Getting into this night shooting thing again ... :-)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3621636712_d6a019dcb9_o.jpg
098 - Framed In Window - San Jose 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
ISO 250 @ f/1.4 @ 1/30 sec
  flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3621636712/

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Re: Introduction With Some Photos

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Thomas:  Welcome to the list.  There's a tradition of PESOs and GESOs on 
this list.  PESO stands for Picture Every So Often.  It is one photo that 
you'd like to share with the list and maybe, if you want, solicit comments 
and critiques from list members, but PDML members are not obligated to 
comment, but often you'll get a few comments and some feedback. PESO is 
often put in the subject line along with the title of your photo to identify 
your post as a PESO.


GESO stands for Gallery Every So Often, and this is a group of photos.  Like 
PESO, GESO is often put in the subject line to identify it as such along 
with the name of your group of shots.


I agree with Ken's comments about the moon and train shot.
Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de

To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: Introduction With Some Photos



Hello,

since I'm really new to this list I wanted to introduce myself. My name
is Thomas and I'm currently living in Düsseldorf, Germany.

And since a photo says more than words, I just give you the link to my
photo gallery at 23.

http://www.23hq.com/tehabe

Photo prior Christmas 2008 where made with a Canon Ixus 55 or 430. After
Christmas mostly with a Pentax K-m and an DA-L 18-55 kit lense, since I
currently just have that one lense.

I hope you like some of the photos and if you don't, I would appreciate
any pointers to improve my photos.

Thomas

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Re: Scary 200mm story

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Glad it all worked out, Derby!  Cheers, Christine


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From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au

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Subject: Scary 200mm story




First time shooting the DA*200mm lens last night at the Museum of 
Contemporary Art. It was dark, crowded, and I had had a few champagnes 
already. In between sets, I had the lens and camera on my shoulder as I 
made my way to the bar. I do remember thinking it was odd the lens felt a 
little loose. But the results seemed ok.


This morning, I took a quick look at the lens. Three of the five screws on 
the mount were missing! And the other two were loose but still holding on.


Luckily I have a collection of 50mm f2 body caps that I never use. 
Pentax use the same screws on the mount after all these years, so now the 
200mm is securely mounted. Phew. The angels must have been watching over 
me last night.


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RE: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Bob W
 
 Bob W wrote:
 
  never knowingly eat chickens that are not organic  free-range.
 
 Oh, save me. Chickens are so f*** stupid there /can't/ be such a 
 thing as a free range chicken, unless you count the one in the fox's 
 mouth. :-)
 

Even if you don't accept the argument on moral grounds that animals should
be allowed to express their natural behaviour, you should still buy organic
free-range for the sake of your own taste buds. They taste better still when
they've been freshly killed, so buy local!

Bob


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RE: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Bob W
 
 True enough. I think that trying to raise chickens humanely is  
 somewhat akin to trying to grow tomatoes humanely. They're 
 both living  
 things, but tomatoes are smarter. It shouldn't be an issue, IMHO.
 Paul
 Member in good standing of MEATA
 (Men Eating All The Animals)
 

Organic tomatoes grown in real dirt (which I suppose is the nearest they'll
get to free range) taste a whole lot better than the chemically-blasted
hydroponic rubbish that's mostly sold.

Bob


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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread Rick Womer

Strange.  The links are working fine for me this morning.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de wrote:

 From: Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de
 Subject: Re: PESO - White Horse
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 6:43 PM
 On 2009-06-12 15:05 -0700, Rick Womer
 wrote:
  
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329132size=lg
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329171
 
 I really like to comment on those photos but I can see them
 because the 
 link is going to a domain trader.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 I get this IP address for the domain: 63.119.44.197
 
 Thomas
 
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Re: Australian price matching for Pentax gear

2009-06-13 Thread Leon Altoff
John,

I was hoping that there wasn't that great a price difference and I
could actually buy the camera from one of the local shops.  They are
helpful and it's not their fault that they are uncompetitive on the
world market.

Still it is good to know as the K7 is on my shopping list too.  At
that point I also start shopping for 2 identical lenses to turn my
*istD's into a stereo camera.

Leon

2009/6/13 John Coyle jco...@powerup.com.au:
 That's really good news Leon - I'll have to bend CRK's ear when the K7
 becomes available!

 John in Brisbane


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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/09, Thomas Bohn, discombobulated, unleashed:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329132size=lg
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329171

I really like to comment on those photos but I can see them because the
link is going to a domain trader.

Any ideas?

Well, you could always comment on them right here on the email list.
That's what it's for :-)

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Re: Scary 200mm story

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/09, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

This morning, I took a quick look at the lens. Three of the five screws
on the mount were missing! And the other two were loose but still
holding on.

Welcome to the world of Pentax-Canon conversion ;-)

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 That's one of the best ever lightning shots I've ever seen. How the hell
 do you get these things so sharp???

Nothing special. It's their very own short exposure time. :-)

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod tho
 were you hand holding that?

My tripod is made of wood. :-)

http://www.berlebach.de/?sprache=english

 Was that a keep the shutter open type of thing?  OR did those bolts 
  come at the same time?

This is one out of a long series of 30 sec exposures, alhough these two
strikes happened within fractions of a second. 

All others were less spectacular or simply out-of-frame.

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Anthony Farr
2009/6/13 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 ...very, very frightening.

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/17435863


Magnifico.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight
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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Anthony Farr
Somebody needs to tell those politicians that stocking density is
indicated by its Denier rating, not by chickens per square metre.

};-)

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight
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2009/6/13 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 Never tell me that Parliament wastes its time on frivolity!

 http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=38765SESSION=899

 Bob

 (in real life I am completely opposed to factory farming and never knowingly
 eat chickens that are not organic  free-range. Even if they're wearing
 stockings)



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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
Humm, well now the links are working.:-)

I like the ground level shot, although the google shot is nice to see.

When the first shot opened my laptop screen cut off the girl on the
right side. After looking at it that way, i think just having the male
only would be a nicer shot, to me anyway.

Dave

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Strange.  The links are working fine for me this morning.

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


 --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de wrote:

 From: Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de
 Subject: Re: PESO - White Horse
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 6:43 PM
 On 2009-06-12 15:05 -0700, Rick Womer
 wrote:

  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329132size=lg
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329171

 I really like to comment on those photos but I can see them
 because the
 link is going to a domain trader.

 Any ideas?

 I get this IP address for the domain: 63.119.44.197

 Thomas

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Re: Australian price matching for Pentax gear

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
I'd be interested in your 17-70 comments. I kinda would like a faster
zoom in this range, Pentax wise. I'm ok Nikon wise.

Dave

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Leon Altoffleon.alt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all.
a better deal.

 I did have to update the firmware on my K10D to make the SDM work, but
 that was always on the cards.  The 60-250 is a big lens, but it fits
 in my camera bag (just) and I love the way the tripod mount connects.
 The 17-70 is again larger than the 16-45 it is replacing, but again
 just fits in the space I have for it in the bag.  I'm looking forward
 to the quiet focusing (and it is quiet), the old lenses did give me
 away a couple of times when I was after a candid shot.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 098 - GDG

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
I quite like that, not sure way. Maybe the framing of the frame.

Dave

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgiramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Getting into this night shooting thing again ... :-)

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3621636712_d6a019dcb9_o.jpg
 098 - Framed In Window - San Jose 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm f/1.4
 ISO 250 @ f/1.4 @ 1/30 sec
  flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3621636712/

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Re: PESO 2009 - 096 - GDG

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
I like the one area of light bordered by the building.
Also the line work in this.

Dave

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgiramar...@mac.com wrote:
 The light was so intense last night ...

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3617642653_1716ed37cd_o.jpg
 096 - Second Floor Railing - Sunnyvale 2009
 Panasonic L1 + Olympus ZD 50-200/2.8-3.5
 ISO400 @ f/10 @ 1.3 seconds, FL=79mm
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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
2009/6/13 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod tho
 were you hand holding that?

 My tripod is made of wood. :-)

 http://www.berlebach.de/?sprache=english

 Was that a keep the shutter open type of thing?  OR did those bolts
  come at the same time?

 This is one out of a long series of 30 sec exposures, alhough these two
 strikes happened within fractions of a second.

I have tried to shoot lightning from my front window, and wait for the action.
Never got one yet that way.:-)

Dave

 All others were less spectacular or simply out-of-frame.

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OT PESO - Music Lover

2009-06-13 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Spebt the day wandering around Fremantle with a mate  caught this one at lunch:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3621401327/

Direct link (~275kb)

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker ~ Fri. 6-12 update

2009-06-13 Thread George Sinos
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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:40:02PM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit:
 Bob W wrote:
 never knowingly eat chickens that are not organic  free-range.

 Oh, save me. Chickens are so f*** stupid there /can't/ be such a  
 thing as a free range chicken, unless you count the one in the fox's  
 mouth. :-)

Feral chickens do happen, at least where the winters aren't too cold for
something derived from jungle fowl.  Doesn't take much smarts to chase
bugs.

The sensibly selfish reason to be fussy about chicken-rearing practises
is that the folks who aren't fussy feed them crap -- sometimes literally
-- and then you get the side effects.

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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:56:02PM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit:
 Keith Whaley wrote:
 I've known a LOT of foxes, and refuse to comment to that comment!
 Foxes might not be bright, but they don't often stand around in the
 rain, heads turned back and mouths open, and drown themselves.

That's generally domestic turkeys, not chickens.

Domestic turkeys are descended from the severe mental defectives of the
wild turkey population, because those are the only ones the Pilgrim
Fathers could catch or keep.

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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob W,
My long departed grandmother talked occasionally about fresh chicken.
You know, the kind where you twisted the necks or cut the heads off,
and then plucked the feathers.  She always favored store bought
chicken, the kind that came in packages in the grocery.  I don't think
she minded the killing so much as the plucking (her job as a little
girl on the farm).  And she never told me that the fresh chicken was
more tasty.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:

 Bob W wrote:

  never knowingly eat chickens that are not organic  free-range.

 Oh, save me. Chickens are so f*** stupid there /can't/ be such a
 thing as a free range chicken, unless you count the one in the fox's
 mouth. :-)


 Even if you don't accept the argument on moral grounds that animals should
 be allowed to express their natural behaviour, you should still buy organic
 free-range for the sake of your own taste buds. They taste better still when
 they've been freshly killed, so buy local!

 Bob


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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Doug Franklin

P. J. Alling wrote:

That's a joke about domesticated turkeys, and even they aren't quite 
that stupid.


Sure, but I couldn't resist. :-)  My experiences have been that chickens 
are quite a bit less intelligent than turkeys.


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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Doug Franklin

Bob Sullivan wrote:


and then plucked the feathers.  She always favored store bought
chicken, the kind that came in packages in the grocery.  I don't think
she minded the killing so much as the plucking (her job as a little
girl on the farm).  And she never told me that the fresh chicken was
more tasty.


It's been too long since I actually had fresh chicken, but I don't 
clearly remember there being much difference in taste.  Not like 
freshwater fish, where the taste drops off quite obviously the longer it 
goes between pond/river and dining table.  And the plucking is 
definitely the worst part of dealing with fresh chicken.  I'd almost 
rather skin hogs.


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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Domestic Turkeys were re-imported into the Americas bu the pilgrim 
fathers, the originals were brought to Europe by the Spanish who stole 
them from the Aztecs, the birds got to England and the Netherlands by 
way of the Ottoman Empire thus the name, or did you think it was simply 
a slur on the Turks?


Graydon wrote:

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:56:02PM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit:
  

Keith Whaley wrote:


I've known a LOT of foxes, and refuse to comment to that comment!
  

Foxes might not be bright, but they don't often stand around in the
rain, heads turned back and mouths open, and drown themselves.



That's generally domestic turkeys, not chickens.

Domestic turkeys are descended from the severe mental defectives of the
wild turkey population, because those are the only ones the Pilgrim
Fathers could catch or keep.

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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Obviously you haven't ever had experience with Bantam's, at least the 
less modified varieties they can be quiet intelligent, for a chicken


Doug Franklin wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:

That's a joke about domesticated turkeys, and even they aren't quite 
that stupid.


Sure, but I couldn't resist. :-)  My experiences have been that 
chickens are quite a bit less intelligent than turkeys.





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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:33:26AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
 Graydon wrote:
 Domestic turkeys are descended from the severe mental defectives of
 the wild turkey population, because those are the only ones the
 Pilgrim Fathers could catch or keep.
 Domestic Turkeys were re-imported into the Americas bu the pilgrim
 fathers, 

Sure.  Where they met up with their wild brethren who encouraged them to
form a resistance. (Well, OK; wild toms will steal domestic hens if they
can, and they did.)

So I am leaving out a whole lot of steps up there for humorous emphasis.

 the originals were brought to Europe by the Spanish who stole
 them from the Aztecs, the birds got to England and the Netherlands by
 way of the Ottoman Empire thus the name, or did you think it was
 simply  a slur on the Turks?

I've certainly heard it suggested that the name has an element of
onomatopoeia in it, rather than being specifically national.  And that
there's some confusion about turkey versus guinea fowl in some of
the 16th and 17th century sources, in the sense of not making a
distinction.

-- Graydon, who figures getting to decapitate a peacock was a highlight
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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele



Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 


Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod tho
were you hand holding that?
   



My tripod is made of wood. :-)

http://www.berlebach.de/?sprache=english

 

Was that a keep the shutter open type of thing?  OR did those bolts 
come at the same time?
   



This is one out of a long series of 30 sec exposures, alhough these two
strikes happened within fractions of a second. 


All others were less spectacular or simply out-of-frame.

Ralf

aaah... I see ... ok...  just another lucky shot then, eh?  (hope no one 
things I'm serious saying that!)


It is so beautiful... contest time!

ann





 





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Re: OT PESO - Music Lover

2009-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele

nice one, dave!
ann
(I love the sign behind the singers head too)


David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

Spebt the day wandering around Fremantle with a mate  caught this one at lunch:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3621401327/

Direct link (~275kb)

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker ~ Fri. 6-12 update

2009-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele

George -
No one is giving away Marnie's phone number or address... but it's a 
point well made.


I did have some recent news of my own I carefully avoided sending to the 
(whole) list recently as it
was more personal than photo publishing news...  


alas, one's defunct web pages also stay in cyberspace forever too...

ann

George Sinos wrote:


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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Jack Davis

Recently saw a TV moment featuring a person known for his lightening/sever 
storm photos. When asked if he used film or digital, (his equipment showed an 
SLR) he explained that he shoots film, because there is a shutter lag with 
digital which would cause him to miss the lightening bolt. What a double 
container!

Jack

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 7:46 AM
 
 
 Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
 
  ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 wrote:
  
   
  Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm
 with a tripod tho
  were you hand holding that?
     
  
  My tripod is made of wood. :-)
  
  http://www.berlebach.de/?sprache=english
  
   
  Was that a keep the shutter open type of
 thing?  OR did those bolts come at the same time?
     
  
  This is one out of a long series of 30 sec exposures,
 alhough these two
  strikes happened within fractions of a second. 
  All others were less spectacular or simply
 out-of-frame.
  
  Ralf
  
 aaah... I see ... ok...  just another lucky shot then,
 eh?  (hope no one things I'm serious saying that!)
 
 It is so beautiful... contest time!
 
 ann
 
 
 
  
   
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread David Savage
Sweet!!

I've yet to get a photograph of lightening that I'm really happy. Well done.

Cheers,

Dave

2009/6/13 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 ...very, very frightening.

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/17435863

 Just one of a number of quite spectacular storms on the night of May 25
 at the French channel coast. A few minutes later I had to get back into
 the car because the rain was so strong that I couldn't even continue
 shooting under the tailgate. Pit really.

 Taken above the tarmac of the former Boulogne Hoverport.

 As always, your comments... :-)

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

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webstertwenty...@gmail.com writes:
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Keith Whaley wrote:
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 And of  course, my mail cannot be delivered...

 Just so you  know.

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You guys simply talk too much.  ;-)

Good news is I am on the home stretch. THEN I will take a little  trip.

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:59:10 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
sandyinch...@gmail.com writes:
Gmail is free and has lots of  storage. It currently tells me I have just 
under
2 gigs used out of  7.something.

Marnie or others; if you want a Gmail account, email me  off-list and
I will send an invtation.


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(including AOL), but with Google  mail I definitely know it to be true. I also 
hate web page based mail  systems.

So no thanks.

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread David Savage
2009/6/13  eactiv...@aol.com:
 In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:59:10 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
 sandyinch...@gmail.com writes:
 Gmail is free and has lots of  storage. It currently tells me I have just
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 Marnie or others; if you want a Gmail account, email me  off-list and
 I will send an invtation.


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 ==
 Google mail is scanned  by big government. Sure others are probably too
 (including AOL), but with Google  mail I definitely know it to be true. I also
 hate web page based mail  systems.

 So no thanks.

Given that the PDML is archived online anyway, if all you use it for
is the PDML what difference does it make?

Cheers,

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

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 And of  course, my mail cannot be delivered...

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You guys simply talk too much.  ;-)

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
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ozsav...@gmail.com writes:
Given that the PDML is  archived online anyway, if all you use it for
is the PDML what difference  does it make?

Cheers,

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread David Savage
2009/6/13  eactiv...@aol.com:
 In a message dated 6/13/2009 8:18:24 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
 ozsav...@gmail.com writes:
 Given that the PDML is  archived online anyway, if all you use it for
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 It's a matter of  principle.

 Marnie

Your NSA scans it all.

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
If you set it up to use a pop client such as Thunderbird, and set g-mail 
up to delete the messages on the server when you download them,  then 
you'll never run out of space, though it will take ages to download your 
mail if you log in infrequently.  (and you no longer need an invitation).


eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:59:10 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
sandyinch...@gmail.com writes:
Gmail is free and has lots of  storage. It currently tells me I have just 
under

2 gigs used out of  7.something.

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/13/2009 8:21:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ozsav...@gmail.com writes:
2009/6/13  eactiv...@aol.com:
  In a message dated 6/13/2009 8:18:24 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
  ozsav...@gmail.com writes:
 Given that the PDML is  archived online  anyway, if all you use it for
 is the PDML what difference  does it  make?

 Cheers,

 Dave

  ==
 It's a matter of  principle.

  Marnie

Your NSA scans it all.

DS

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Probably,  but I don't have to encourage them.

Just like I don't have to encourage  surveillance cameras on freeways and 
on street lights.

The price of  freedom is eternal vigilance.

Marnie ;-)  Just because they do it, doesn't make it okay. Anyway,  no 
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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Supposedly everything is scanned by big government, looking for terror 
related keywords and suspicious mailing patterns.  There isn't enough 
manpower to read every e-mail so you should be safe.  I thought you were 
using a web interface because AOL inserts advertisements at the bottom 
of all your e-mails.  If you set up G-mail to use their pop server and, 
(Hotmail as well but I'll never trust a free microsoft product again), 
they don't seem to monkey with your outgoing mail. 


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2009/6/13  eactiv...@aol.com:
  

In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:59:10 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
sandyinch...@gmail.com writes:
Gmail is free and has lots of  storage. It currently tells me I have just
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Given that the PDML is archived online anyway, if all you use it for
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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/13/2009 8:31:12 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com writes:
Supposedly  everything is scanned by big government, looking for terror 
related  keywords and suspicious mailing patterns.  There isn't enough 
manpower  to read every e-mail so you should be safe.  I thought you were 
using a  web interface because AOL inserts advertisements at the bottom 
of all your  e-mails.  If you set up G-mail to use their pop server and, 
(Hotmail as  well but I'll never trust a free microsoft product again), 
they don't seem  to monkey with your outgoing mail. 

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I mainly use AOL,  because it has a newreader interface, instead of a web 
page based interface,  which despite Comcast cable (which also probably scans 
everything) a web page  based interface takes longer. In other words, 
regardless of one's connect speed,  web pages always take longer.

I find that highly  annoying.

Marnie   It's the only reason I've stayed with AOL at  all. Can't help the 
ads, but one gets that almost everywhere so so far I live  with it. Though, 
I must admit, as more and more have left AOL it increases my  chances for 
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Re: PESO: Red Wing Too

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/27/2009 4:48:53 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:
I've been seeing what I and  my Birds of North America book identify as 
Red Wing Blackbirds.
This is  less of a bird picture (as Paul correctly described Bruce's recent 
post) but a  seasonal shot I currently have up as wallpaper. Shot with the 
50~135 which  produced an image that, thankfully, allows heavy cropping, but 
I NEED the  60~250..right?
Offered only to be a player.  ;)

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=423



Very  nice shot, Jack. Though I'd crop off the top part, the hills. Don't 
add  anything.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 095 - GDG

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/8/2009 10:57:42 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
ramar...@mac.com writes:
foliage  ...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3355/3610177738_5f89eedd62_o.jpg
095  Ginko Leaves - Sunnyvale 2009
Panasonic G1 + Olympus G.Zuiko 40mm  f/1.4
ISO 100 @ f/2.8 @ 1/30 second
flickr page:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3610177738/

Your comments always  appreciated. Thanks for looking!

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Ohhh,  nice. Like shape of bottom of leaves (top?). One of your better  
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Re: PESO: No Hands

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/29/2009 12:06:55 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes:
Thanks. Just a  carnival. Took Grace there today. So I suspect I'll  
have more carnival  pics later.
Paul
On May 29, 2009, at 1:15 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

 Well timed and love the expression. Circus in  town.?

 Dave

 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:48 PM,  paul stenquist
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  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9262977size=lg

  Click to make it smaller.

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Nice  one, Paul. She really looks like she is enjoying herself.

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Re: OT PESO - Music Lover

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
Pretty good shot for a Canon Dave.

His smile makes the shot.

Dave



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 G'day All,

 Spebt the day wandering around Fremantle with a mate  caught this one at 
 lunch:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3621401327/

 Direct link (~275kb)

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3621401327_0904a62921_o.jpg

 Canon G10, 10.8mm, 1/200 @ f5.6, ISO 400

 Enjoy,

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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread Thomas Bohn
On 2009-06-13 10:12 +0100, Cotty wrote:
 
 Well, you could always comment on them right here on the email list.

Now I get Dave's message. See you later!

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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Thomas Bohntho...@bohnomat.de wrote:
 On 2009-06-13 10:12 +0100, Cotty wrote:

 Well, you could always comment on them right here on the email list.

 Now I get Dave's message. See you later!

Our standard greeting to new folk on the list is not to listen to
Cotty or Frank.

Its a joke.

However Cotty shoots a Canon. Now thats no joke.:-)


Dave

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Recently saw a TV moment featuring a person known for his lightening/sever 
 storm photos. When asked if he used film or digital, (his equipment showed an 
 SLR) he explained that he shoots film, because there is a shutter lag with 
 digital which would cause him to miss the lightening bolt. What a double 
 container!

That made me smile.

Dave

 Jack

 --- On Sat, 6/13/09, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 7:46 AM


 Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

  ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm
 with a tripod tho
  were you hand holding that?
 
 
  My tripod is made of wood. :-)
 
  http://www.berlebach.de/?sprache=english
 
 
  Was that a keep the shutter open type of
 thing?  OR did those bolts come at the same time?
 
 
  This is one out of a long series of 30 sec exposures,
 alhough these two
  strikes happened within fractions of a second.
  All others were less spectacular or simply
 out-of-frame.
 
  Ralf
 
 aaah... I see ... ok...  just another lucky shot then,
 eh?  (hope no one things I'm serious saying that!)

 It is so beautiful... contest time!

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Google mail is scanned  by big government.

You could just pull the plug on your internet access.  That'll teach
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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/13/2009 9:36:18 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
sdlovel...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at  11:12 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Google mail is scanned   by big government.

You could just pull the plug on your internet  access.  That'll teach
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Re: FS Friday: Just listed M35mm f2 lens and Digital Spotmeter on ebay

2009-06-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
These items are listed for sale on ebay to US, Canada, Europe,
Australia, and Japan.
If your on the pdml and want me to ship to Malaysia or wherever, let us talk.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Subject: FS Friday: Just listed M35mm f2 lens and Digital Spotmeter on ebay
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net


See them here...(ending Monday night)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=130312436868
M35/2 starts at $49.95 with a Buy-It-Now of $150
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Digital Spotmeter starts at $50 with a Buy-It-Now of $275
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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread Thomas Bohn
On 2009-06-13 12:22 -0400, David J Brooks wrote:
 
 Our standard greeting to new folk on the list is not to listen to
 Cotty or Frank.

Yeah, I got that but it is funnier sometimes to go along esspecially 
when the someone in question didn't get my posting.

:-)

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie,
Glad you're alive and well.
Check in from time to time or we'll worry about you.
Regards, Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 6/13/2009 9:36:18 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
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 On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at  11:12 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Google mail is scanned   by big government.

 You could just pull the plug on your internet  access.  That'll teach
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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Oh and by the way, could you turn the camera on your computer a bit to
the left.  We're having trouble seeing you. :-)  Bob S.

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 Check in from time to time or we'll worry about you.
 Regards, Bob S.

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 On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at  11:12 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Google mail is scanned   by big government.

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
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rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Oh and by the way, could  you turn the camera on your computer a bit to
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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Eactivist
BTW, it's nice to now you guys noticed I wasn't around.

Makes me  feel all warm and fuzzy.

Even somewhat Pentaxian.

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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:


However Cotty shoots a Canon. Now thats no joke.:-)

Not any more, Chainsaw! There are no Canon cameras in the house - one
Canon TV zoom lens, but that's it. Only DSLR we have is an *ist Ds. I
liked the K-7 I held at GFM but not enough to buy one - can't anyway -
I'm taking a sabbatical from stills for a while - could be a few years.
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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty


Marnie or others; if you want a Gmail account, email me  off-list and
I will send an invtation.


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I also
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So no thanks.

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Another routine GFM pic

2009-06-13 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d903406.jpg

Pentax 67 and Takumar 67 75mm f/4.5

Not a great artistic statement but just a bit of 67 stuff. :)


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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker ~ Fri. 6-12 update

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/09, George Sinos, discombobulated, unleashed:

Careful with the personal info - remember this is a public list and
the PDML archive stays out there forever.  gs


Excellent!


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Re: OT PESO - Music Lover

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/09, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

G'day All,

Spebt the day wandering around Fremantle with a mate  caught this one
at lunch:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3621401327/

Direct link (~275kb)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3621401327_0904a62921_o.jpg

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have tried to shoot lightning from my front window, and wait for the
action.
Never got one yet that way.:-)

Uh Dave, you have to wait til it clouds over a bit ;-)

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker ~ Fri. 6-12 update

2009-06-13 Thread Joseph McAllister
I received an email from Marnie this morning. She's fine. Just busy.  
Says she'll try to post a not every now and again so we don't worry.


Hooray!


On Jun 12, 2009, at 23:33 , Christine Aguila wrote:

If I remember correctly, didn't she say she was redoing her condo  
and that she had car problems, which was why she couldn't come to  
GFM. Maybe she got the car fixed and is away on vacation.  Cheers,  
Christine


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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Joseph McAllister
Ask any tree split by lightning about wet wood properties vis a vis  
electricity...:-)


On Jun 13, 2009, at 02:17 , Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod  
tho

were you hand holding that?


My tripod is made of wood. :-)

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

...very, very frightening.

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/17435863

Incredible. Really outstanding shot!
I assume the wind was blowing in from the sea because we can't see the
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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila

I meant to write:  This must have *been* a major 'tree-ouch.'  ig!


- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning


This must have caused a major tree-ouch.  Southern Illinois had what 
they call an inland hurricane shortly before GFM.  Darrel  I drove 
through Makanda, Ill on the way home and saw this.

Cheers, Christine





From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com




Ask any tree split by lightning about wet wood properties vis a vis

electricity...:-)

On Jun 13, 2009, at 02:17 , Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod 
tho

were you hand holding that?


My tripod is made of wood. :-)

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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 13/6/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:


However Cotty shoots a Canon. Now thats no joke.:-)

 Not any more, Chainsaw! There are no Canon cameras in the house - one
 Canon TV zoom lens, but that's it. Only DSLR we have is an *ist Ds. I
 liked the K-7 I held at GFM but not enough to buy one - can't anyway -
 I'm taking a sabbatical from stills for a while - could be a few years.
 The only (still) camera I use now is a 2mp iPhone ;-)

I stand Canected.:-)

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
...and saw this.
Did you mean to add a link here Christine?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 This must have caused a major tree-ouch.  Southern Illinois had what they
 call an inland hurricane shortly before GFM.  Darrel  I drove through
 Makanda, Ill on the way home and saw this.
 Cheers, Christine




 From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com


 Ask any tree split by lightning about wet wood properties vis a vis

 electricity...    :-)

 On Jun 13, 2009, at 02:17 , Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod  tho
 were you hand holding that?

 My tripod is made of wood. :-)

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Re: Another routine GFM pic

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
Routine maybe, lovely, yes.

Dave

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com wrote:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d903406.jpg

 Pentax 67 and Takumar 67 75mm f/4.5

 Not a great artistic statement but just a bit of 67 stuff. :)


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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 13/6/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

I have tried to shoot lightning from my front window, and wait for the
 action.
Never got one yet that way.:-)

 Uh Dave, you have to wait til it clouds over a bit ;-)

Oh. I've been doing them at night, when i can't sleep.:-0

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila
This must have caused a major tree-ouch.  Southern Illinois had what they 
call an inland hurricane shortly before GFM.  Darrel  I drove through 
Makanda, Ill on the way home and saw this.

Cheers, Christine





From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com




Ask any tree split by lightning about wet wood properties vis a vis

electricity...:-)

On Jun 13, 2009, at 02:17 , Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod  tho
were you hand holding that?


My tripod is made of wood. :-)

http://www.berlebach.de/?sprache=english




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Don't you just hate it when............

2009-06-13 Thread David J Brooks
you know you had the smc tak 105 2.8 in one camera bag, moved it
somewhere else but can't remember
where.

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Ugh!  I didn't get up until 11:30 a.m. today--Blues Fest last night; I feel 
so dopey, and I didn't even drink much or even stay out late.  Blues Fest 
was done at 9:30p.  We stopped at Miller's Pub for a quick snort, but 
literally that was it.  I don't know what's wrong with me.


Here's the link:  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/sptree/

Think I'm going to go take a nap.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning


...and saw this.
Did you mean to add a link here Christine?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

This must have caused a major tree-ouch. Southern Illinois had what they
call an inland hurricane shortly before GFM. Darrel  I drove through
Makanda, Ill on the way home and saw this.
Cheers, Christine





From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com




Ask any tree split by lightning about wet wood properties vis a vis


electricity... :-)

On Jun 13, 2009, at 02:17 , Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod tho
were you hand holding that?


My tripod is made of wood. :-)

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RE: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Bob W
Maybe you should try it yourself rather than relying on the word of others.
When we lived in Singapore in the 60s my mother bought the chickens live
from a push cart. The guy would chop their heads  feet off and give us the
legs to play with, pulling the tendons.

Bob

 Bob W,
 My long departed grandmother talked occasionally about fresh chicken.
 You know, the kind where you twisted the necks or cut the heads off,
 and then plucked the feathers.  She always favored store bought
 chicken, the kind that came in packages in the grocery.  I don't think
 she minded the killing so much as the plucking (her job as a little
 girl on the farm).  And she never told me that the fresh chicken was
 more tasty.
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RE: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread Bob W
 
  That's a joke about domesticated turkeys, and even they 
 aren't quite 
  that stupid.
 
 Sure, but I couldn't resist. :-)  My experiences have been 
 that chickens 
 are quite a bit less intelligent than turkeys.
 

You have experience of comparative IQ testing in domesticated fowls?

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Re: Peso - Editorial comment on Second Avenue

2009-06-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: ann sanfedele

David Mann wrote:


 On Jun 12, 2009, at 4:22 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/541080791_7BQEw/Medium



 A fellow I used to work with went onto our boss' computer and edited  
 the default finger mouse pointer that you get when you move over a  
 link, changing which finger is extended.


 Unfortunately it was too subtle and he never noticed until after he  
 was told about it.  He did get a kick out of it though.


 Dave


Now you've given those slow on the uptake a big hint re my photo, Dave,
I wonder if the adjustment is truly a universal symbol.  



With some variations, it might be.

The Romans called the middle finger digitus impudicus or digitus 
infamis, and the gesture means pretty much the same thing everywhere 
Roman influence spread - either by conquest or by trade.


The English use two fingers where Americans use one.

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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling


The only (still) camera I use now is a 2mp iPhone

Philistine!

Cotty wrote:

On 13/6/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

However Cotty shoots a Canon. Now thats no joke.:-)



Not any more, Chainsaw! There are no Canon cameras in the house - one
Canon TV zoom lens, but that's it. Only DSLR we have is an *ist Ds. I
liked the K-7 I held at GFM but not enough to buy one - can't anyway -
I'm taking a sabbatical from stills for a while - could be a few years.
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Re: Another routine GFM pic

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Just as quantity creates it's own quality, print size creates it's own 
artistic statement, print it big and call it art!  You can do that with 
a 67.


Mark Roberts wrote:

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d903406.jpg

Pentax 67 and Takumar 67 75mm f/4.5

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling

I have tried to shoot lightning from my front window,


Tesla would be proud.



Cotty wrote:

On 13/6/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

I have tried to shoot lightning from my front window, and wait for the


action.
  

Never got one yet that way.:-)



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Re: Don't you just hate it when............

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling

You've just described my recent life, sadly.

David J Brooks wrote:

you know you had the smc tak 105 2.8 in one camera bag, moved it
somewhere else but can't remember
where.

Dave

  



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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling
No, but I know a turkey farmer and he tells me, that though they will 
peck each other to death, he's never had one drown itself in the rain...


Bob W wrote:
That's a joke about domesticated turkeys, and even they 
  
aren't quite 


that stupid.
  
Sure, but I couldn't resist. :-)  My experiences have been 
that chickens 
are quite a bit less intelligent than turkeys.





You have experience of comparative IQ testing in domesticated fowls?

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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread P. J. Alling

Makes me wonder what happened to the rest of the tree.

Christine Aguila wrote:
Ugh!  I didn't get up until 11:30 a.m. today--Blues Fest last night; I 
feel so dopey, and I didn't even drink much or even stay out late.  
Blues Fest was done at 9:30p.  We stopped at Miller's Pub for a quick 
snort, but literally that was it.  I don't know what's wrong with me.


Here's the link:  http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/sptree/

Think I'm going to go take a nap.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning


...and saw this.
Did you mean to add a link here Christine?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Christine  
Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
This must have caused a major tree-ouch. Southern Illinois had what 
they

call an inland hurricane shortly before GFM. Darrel  I drove through
Makanda, Ill on the way home and saw this.
Cheers, Christine





From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com




Ask any tree split by lightning about wet wood properties vis a vis


electricity... :-)

On Jun 13, 2009, at 02:17 , Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm with a tripod 
tho

were you hand holding that?


My tripod is made of wood. :-)

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PDML Oxford Today

2009-06-13 Thread Cotty
We had a meet today in Oxford. I turned up a little late at the King's
Arms to find Rick Womer and Mike Wilson (along with Kathy and Katy)
sitting outside in the warm summer sunshine. Very soon after, world
traveller and entrepreneur Bob Walkden arrived and we went inside for lunch.

Well, they had lunch and I had a cup of coffee - spent all day yesterday
digging some foundations for a garden shed and I think every bone and
muscle in my body was complaining - and to add insult to injury I was
badly hung-over

We squeezed into one of the small ante-rooms of the King's Arms, a pub I
used to frequent in the late 1980's and haven't been in since - quite a
weird sensation sitting by chance in the same place I used to all those
years ago! I sipped my latte and listened intently to conversation while
glancing nonchalantly at the gorgeous butt attached to a waitress.

We headed slowly over to the botanical gardens near the river by way of
Radliffe Square (and the famous Radcliffe Camera - the big round
building seen in many tourist pics of Oxford although it is not a camera
obscura as is sometimes believed, rather a big round building housing
reading rooms for the Bodleian Library). At the gardens I got a call
from Chris Mitchell who I had completely forgotten about! He managed to
catch up and we were finally quorate.

I only had one of my video cameras along for the ride, I figured I would
grab a few shots of folk enjoying some photography out and about in
Oxford to show the international nature of the list. I wasn't feeling
very inspired but managed to catch a few bits and bobs of Rick's and
Bob's. And a bit of that and this from Mike and Chris ;-)

Rick and Chris had their K20D cameras and various zooms aboard. Mike
Wilson was toting an LX and 20-35mm, and an *ist DL2, along with a
rather sinister police baton that he insisted was a monopod-cum-walking
stick. I reckon it would give a good back scratch as well, and I kept my
eye on it for the duration. Bob had his lovely Leica M8 and would not be
separated from it, his hand popping up every now and again to snap with
consummate dexterity a passing tableau (see I can talk like what you do
mate). He really is a cross between Cartier-Bresson and a cat.

My car parking was running out and just as I was off to tend to that, my
Mrs rang and said she was in Oxford (hey - **you** try keeping track of
her - I haven't been able to in over 20 years!!) and where were we? 45
minutes later and cars sorted, we met with the team as they headed back
to the centre of town for afternoon tea. BTW here is a message from Alma
before I forget:


Hi Mike, Cathy, Katey, Bob, Chris and Rick

Really good to see you all again this afternoon albeit, short  sweet! :-)

Hope to see you all again real soon!

Love and best wishes,
Alma XX


We spent an hour at St Mary's, The Crypt - PDMLers will remember this
venue from a meet in 2006 when a similar path was trod - and although I
have *no* still pics from today ( I suppose I could do some still grabs
from the video - will have a go tomorrow) here is the meet in 2006:

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/oxford.html

Don't tell me the mono pics are all washed out - I know they are and
they need resampling or something - I'll get there, gimme time!

I'm sure there will be some galleries up shortly. It was a lovely day
and great to see friends from the list as always. We're going to
organise something up in the wilds of the northeast later in the summer
- a coast visit somewhere between Newcastle and Berwick so watch this space.

One final thing - Mike, here is that URL for the Manfrotto gear:

http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/

You'll see 'Manfrotto' at right, click on that and enjoy - give the
bloke a call, he's very helpful with fiddly bits :-)



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Re: PESO - White Horse

2009-06-13 Thread Rick Womer

There seems a consensus on this point.  We talked about it at the (very 
enjoyable) Oxford PDML today.  The difference is between an Artistic Shot 
(without the woman in the blue jacket) and the Shot that Reflects My Memory of 
the Situation (which includes her, and better reflects the wet, blustery day it 
was).

Ah, the tribulations of Art...

Rick

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--- On Sat, 6/13/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 When the first shot opened my laptop screen cut off the
 girl on the
 right side. After looking at it that way, i think just
 having the male
 only would be a nicer shot, to me anyway.
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Strange.  The links are working fine for me this
 morning.
 
  Rick
 
  http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
  --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de
 wrote:
 
  From: Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de
  Subject: Re: PESO - White Horse
  To: pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 6:43 PM
  On 2009-06-12 15:05 -0700, Rick Womer
  wrote:
 
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329132size=lg
   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9329171
 
  I really like to comment on those photos but I can
 see them
  because the
  link is going to a domain trader.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  I get this IP address for the domain:
 63.119.44.197
 
  Thomas
 
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Re: Another routine GFM pic

2009-06-13 Thread paul stenquist

Yes, a pretty pic. Nice detail.
Paul
On Jun 13, 2009, at 4:40 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


Routine maybe, lovely, yes.

Dave

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http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d903406.jpg

Pentax 67 and Takumar 67 75mm f/4.5

Not a great artistic statement but just a bit of 67 stuff. :)


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Re: OT: Bike quiz

2009-06-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 07:25:26PM -0400, John Francis wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 02:21:36PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
  
  I was driving in San Francisco over Memorial day weekend and one

  morning saw a bicyclist, riding  along the same route as me, slowing
  down, but not stopping for stop signs, crossing streets against the
  red, basically riding safely but illegally.
 
 There was talk a year or so ago of changing the California Vehicle

 Code to make this legal (i.e. bikes could treat Stop signs as
 Yield signs), but I don't think anything actually came of it.


I believe that I recently read that that is the law in Idaho.


It's a good way to eventually get run over by a car or truck.

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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Franklin

Keith Whaley wrote:


 I've known a LOT of foxes, and refuse to comment to that comment!


Foxes might not be bright, but they don't often stand around in the 
rain, heads turned back and mouths open, and drown themselves.


That's the domesticated turkey. Supposedly ... urban legend (or whatever 
the rural equivalent of urban legend is).


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Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning

2009-06-13 Thread Ken Waller
He could have been talking about a camera with an electronic view finder - 
I've used a Niknon 5700 with EVF, which was very impractrical to use to 
capture actions images - push the release, count 1, 2 - picture captured.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com


Subject: Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning



Recently saw a TV moment featuring a person known for his lightening/sever 
storm photos. When asked if he used film or digital, (his equipment showed 
an SLR) he explained that he shoots film, because there is a shutter lag 
with digital which would cause him to miss the lightening bolt. What a 
double container!


Jack

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Thunderbolt and lightning
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 7:46 AM


Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
wrote:


 Momma told me never to go out in a lightning storm
with a tripod tho
 were you hand holding that?


 My tripod is made of wood. :-)

 http://www.berlebach.de/?sprache=english


 Was that a keep the shutter open type of
thing? OR did those bolts come at the same time?


 This is one out of a long series of 30 sec exposures,
alhough these two
 strikes happened within fractions of a second.
 All others were less spectacular or simply
out-of-frame.

 Ralf

aaah... I see ... ok... just another lucky shot then,
eh? (hope no one things I'm serious saying that!)

It is so beautiful... contest time!

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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread Ken Waller

You were gone ?

Where did you go ?  ;-}




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From: eactiv...@aol.com

Subject: Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker



BTW, it's nice to now you guys noticed I wasn't around.

Makes me  feel all warm and fuzzy.

Even somewhat Pentaxian.

Marnie aka Doe  ;-)




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RE: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

Bob W wrote:
 

  never knowingly eat chickens that are not organic  free-range.
 
 Oh, save me. Chickens are so f*** stupid there /can't/ be such a 
 thing as a free range chicken, unless you count the one in the fox's 
 mouth.  :-) 
 


Even if you don't accept the argument on moral grounds that animals should
be allowed to express their natural behaviour, you should still buy organic
free-range for the sake of your own taste buds. They taste better still when
they've been freshly killed, so buy local!


Hmmm? By that logic, they probably taste best if eaten as quickly as 
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Re: Another routine GFM pic

2009-06-13 Thread Ken Waller

You need to frame it in order to call it Art. ;+ }

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From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Another routine GFM pic


Just as quantity creates it's own quality, print size creates it's own 
artistic statement, print it big and call it art!  You can do that with 
a 67.


Mark Roberts wrote:

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7d903406.jpg

Pentax 67 and Takumar 67 75mm f/4.5

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Re: FW: OT: How thick should your chickens' stockings be?

2009-06-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling
Domestic Turkeys were re-imported into the Americas bu the pilgrim 
fathers, the originals were brought to Europe by the Spanish who stole 
them from the Aztecs, the birds got to England and the Netherlands by 
way of the Ottoman Empire thus the name, or did you think it was simply 
a slur on the Turks?


I know the wild turkey of North America is a magnificent enough beast 
that Ben Franklin favored it as the national emblem rather than the bald 
eagle.


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K7 video sample from British Jour of Photography

2009-06-13 Thread Christine Aguila

http://www.1854.eu:80/2009/06/another_pentax_k7_video.html


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Re: Open letter to Marnie (Doe) Parker

2009-06-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Marnie

n a message dated 6/13/2009 9:36:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
sdlovel...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM,
eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Google mail is scanned   by big government.


You could just pull the plug on your internet  access.  That'll teach
 those NSA bastards.   vbg

= Wouldn't teach them a thing... not unless we  all do.
bg

Marnie   :-)


That won't teach 'em anything. Can't teach free speech by everybody 
being silent.


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Re: Peso - Editorial comment on Second Avenue

2009-06-13 Thread ann sanfedele


John Sessoms wrote:


From: ann sanfedele


...
Now you've given those slow on the uptake a big hint re my photo, Dave,
I wonder if the adjustment is truly a universal symbol. 



With some variations, it might be.

The Romans called the middle finger digitus impudicus or digitus 
infamis, and the gesture means pretty much the same thing everywhere 
Roman influence spread - either by conquest or by trade.


The English use two fingers where Americans use one.


That's rather hard to do if it's the two middle ones

ann




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