Re: July PUG?
I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com There is no off position to the genius switch. Genius can, however, be observed as insanity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20 vs K100 smackdown continued
About 'RAW histogram': Not AFAIK but so called 'Pro cameras' may do so. I highly doubt about it though: if WB influences histogram (and it does) there's no way to do a really useful 'RAW histogram' because even if it was available, the resulting histogram following a WB change would not be the same as the so-called 'RAW histogram'. So in the end, there's no point in a 'RAW histogram', unfortunately and when possible, WB choice prior to the shoot is and will always be better. Otherwise there would not be so many (expensive) accessories for managing the WB. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to lose a sale
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I was in a shoe shop today, looking at shoes (surprise, surprise). I had my M8 hanging from my shoulder. After staring disconsolately at the footwear on offer I heard somebody muttering something in my ear. It was a shop assistant. Is that old thing an SLR or a rangefinder? There's a clue as to the quality of conversation you are about to have. It's a rangefinder Does it still work?, he said, laughing. He was really taking the piss out of the camera. What do you mean? In this digital day and age! Does manual film still work? It's digital Digital? That?! It likes a really old thing. Is it a Rioch (sic)? A what? A Rioch No, it's a Leica Man! That looks so old! I can't imagine how he expected to get a sale out of me after that, even if they'd had any shoes I wanted to buy. Just to keep it on topic, as I was walking away shaking my head in disbelief I heard him tell one of his colleagues that he had a Pentax K1000. You should have asked him about the new autowalk shoes with rare-earth antigravity magnets. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page
ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Appreciate any comments and certainly if you see a link or a stupid typo let me know -- but only if you happen on it or have no life and look at everything :-) Too much coming up in the yellow boxes. They only last about 3 seconds and a terse sentence is the most you can thoroughly absorb in that time. The other stuff (or, indeed, all of it) would be better underneath the relevant picture/link. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Whats a DS worth these days?
Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Recent completed listings on Ebay for the DS body-only show auctions completed successfully in and around the $205-220 range. The 18-55 kit lens sells new, by itself, for $175 or so. With a body, new, it adds $100 to the cost of the body only package. Completed auctions on the K2000 + kit lens are around $300 or so. I'd estimate from that a fair price for the *ist DS plus kit lens to be in the neighborhood of $250. I plucked the same number, but in sterling, from my nether regions as an amount I would be happy with from someone who would not come running back with every little problem. Always a difficulty when you sell to friends and relatives. I would therefore charge more for them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.
Dave I still have a working Iomega 100MB drive in my office. It's a long way from me to you, but I can help out if you like. Transfer to CD be the way to go? John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 8:38 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Kodak DC 25 camera and files. I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997. I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on. I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable. I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would like to try and get off the disk. Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the software.??? None i suppose. I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port) required software or not. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How to lose a sale
Interesting story. Bet his knowledge about shoes was on par with his knowledge about cameras... Jostein 2009/7/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I was in a shoe shop today, looking at shoes (surprise, surprise). I had my M8 hanging from my shoulder. After staring disconsolately at the footwear on offer I heard somebody muttering something in my ear. It was a shop assistant. Is that old thing an SLR or a rangefinder? It's a rangefinder Does it still work?, he said, laughing. He was really taking the piss out of the camera. What do you mean? In this digital day and age! Does manual film still work? It's digital Digital? That?! It likes a really old thing. Is it a Rioch (sic)? A what? A Rioch No, it's a Leica Man! That looks so old! I can't imagine how he expected to get a sale out of me after that, even if they'd had any shoes I wanted to buy. Just to keep it on topic, as I was walking away shaking my head in disbelief I heard him tell one of his colleagues that he had a Pentax K1000. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Every time you miss a shot ...
2009/7/24 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: But; does God kill a baby duck if you miss a shot while franticly changing lenses? I doubt it, because everyone knows that 'Lord love(s) a duck'. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Polaroid again?
there is a thriving market in Lomos, Holgas and suchlike, and over here the Photographers' Gallery seems to do a decent trade in small wooden pinhole cameras that use 35mm film. I should think a new Polaroid camera would be pitched at the same market segment and would stand a decent chance of making a small living for itself. http://www.zeroimage.com/web2003/EntryPage/entryFrameset.htm It sounds like a strange business idea to me (or I don't understand what exactly they are trying to do), but who knows http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090720/us_time/08599191053600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K20 vs K100 smackdown continued
About 'RAW histogram': Not AFAIK but so called 'Pro cameras' may do so. I highly doubt about it though: if WB influences histogram (and it does) there's no way to do a really useful 'RAW histogram' because even if it was available, the resulting histogram following a WB change would not be the same as the so-called 'RAW histogram'. So in the end, there's no point in a 'RAW histogram', unfortunately and when possible, WB choice prior to the shoot is and will always be better. Otherwise there would not be so many (expensive) accessories for managing the WB. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille I don't really understand the point you are making in the second paragraph, and it doesn't feel right to me. But in any case I think you're probably wrong in the first paragraph. All sorts of factors affect the 'raw' histogram, not just white balance - it's clear to see this when you use something like Lightroom on raw files - but that does not mean that it would be no use in the camera. I have 2 so-called pro cameras and as far as I know neither of them bases the histogram on the raw files. As an aid to exposure a histogram based on the raw data should, if my understanding is correct, be more accurate than one based on a jpeg. However, my guess is that the accuracy of the output is limited by the resolution of the display on the back of the camera, which is much smaller than is likely to be available on your computer. So although the camera could easily calculate the histogram from the many megapixels of raw data available to it, it would then have to start removing accuracy to be able to display it, so it needs a set of rules to decide how to reduce the accuracy of the output. Perhaps using a jpeg conversion is that set of rules. This is purely guesswork, but it seems to make some kind of sense to me. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA* 200/2.8 on film
Hi! Thanks to Derby this web page (http://liberman-family.com/boris/da_lenses_on_film.html) got updated again. This time with DA* 200/2.8 shots. Cheers! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons
On 24/07/2009, Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote: This guy has posted the best controlled comparison I have seen of noise levels in the two cameras: http://www.flickr.com/photos/51031...@n00/sets/72157621362031046/ Navigate through until you get to the original size images. Pentax claimed that the K7 would have lower noise. This is clearly not so. The difference is especially apparent at ISO 3200 and 6400 (both of which I would like to use). I'm glad I haven't yet bought a K7. I may still buy one, but not for better noise. Or I may wait to see what testing shows when the K8 comes out. Some reports claim that Pentax implemented less noise reduction in RAW images from the K7, and that this accounts for its poorer noise performance. I don't know whether this is true or just BS. From what I read, the K7 is a fine camera in other respects. Joe just bear in mind too that this is a short exposure high ISO noise test, the results may be quite different at lower ambient light levels. Not that I expect that much difference, can't make a silk purse -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20 vs K100 smackdown continued
On 24/07/2009, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: As an aid to exposure a histogram based on the raw data should, if my understanding is correct, be more accurate than one based on a jpeg. However, my guess is that the accuracy of the output is limited by the resolution of the display on the back of the camera, which is much smaller than is likely to be available on your computer. So although the camera could easily calculate the histogram from the many megapixels of raw data available to it, it would then have to start removing accuracy to be able to display it, so it needs a set of rules to decide how to reduce the accuracy of the output. Perhaps using a jpeg conversion is that set of rules. This is purely guesswork, but it seems to make some kind of sense to me. The histogram will only ever be a rough representation of the luminance levels as there aren't enough horizontal pixels on the display to cover the luminance levels that the camera can record. The practical problem is that the on-camera histogram is representative of the RAW data constrained by the JPG engine gamut and WB selections rather than a representation of the actual sensors black point and saturation levels. That type of data would be useful. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! Can't you see anything positive in this? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.
Thanks John. I have the files off the zip drive and on the computer hard drive. Just burn to do a CD and find some way to convert the kodak files that were not done. Most were Dave On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:04 AM, John Coylejco...@powerup.com.au wrote: Dave I still have a working Iomega 100MB drive in my office. It's a long way from me to you, but I can help out if you like. Transfer to CD be the way to go? John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 8:38 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Kodak DC 25 camera and files. I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997. I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on. I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable. I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would like to try and get off the disk. Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the software.??? None i suppose. I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port) required software or not. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons
2009/7/23 Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com: Pentax claimed that the K7 would have lower noise. This is clearly not so. The difference is especially apparent at ISO 3200 and 6400 (both of which I would like to use). When I look at those images, it strikes me that the K20D pics looks slightly underexposed. I downloaded the ISO 1600 images and compared the histograms, and that only reinforced the impression. However I don't have any photo editing software on the computer I'm at today, so I can't lift the K20D image to see how comparable brightness affects the noise comparison. I suspect they will become quite similar, though. I'm glad I haven't yet bought a K-7. I may still buy one, but not for better noise. Or I may wait to see what testing shows when the K8 comes out. Some rumor mill had it that 8 was avoided because of Asian connotations about bad luck, and that K-9 was unacceptable to cat lovers. Or something. :-) Seriously, though, I personally believe the K-7 to be a sort of one-off; a test-bed for technology intended for the 645 due next year. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20 Shutter noise.
Yep, compared to my K10D, K-7 is silent as possible. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:27 AM, paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I never found the K20 shutter to be objectionably loud. However, the K7 shutter is considerably quieter. Paul On Jul 17, 2009, at 11:18 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I'm getting a bit tired of reading all these reviews of how noisy the K20 shutter is. Last night I was at an event where there were a couple of other photographers with their DSLR of choice, a Nikon D90 user and a Sony user, (I think he was using an A100, it had two dials, on either side of the prism anyway), both commented favorably on how quiet the shutter was on the K20. I don't know what the reviewers are comparing the K20 shutter noise to but it sure isn't other real world DSLRs. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd
That must be a K-9. Jostein 2009/7/24 wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's just me, but how about a photo *OF* the K-7 with the 77 Ltd? I'm not dogging the doggie pics, I just want some camera/lens porn. Please...? --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Every time you miss a shot ...
2009/7/24 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: I came up with a T-shirt I want. JB and I were talking about lenses and he accused me of being a lens junkie. I replied: Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. You can thank me that the world is not overrun by felines. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Happy Dog
Good lens and very well exposed image. Looks like 'Happy' has a case of what I believe is called cherry eye.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Happy Dog To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:34 PM I've been going through the shots I made while testing the K20 and some are acceptable... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20happydog.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Notes: Popup flash green, (doggy version of red eye) and all... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Old Painted Wall
Appealing shot. Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Old Painted Wall To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:52 PM I can't find peeling paint that's as interesting as others can... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20oldpaintedwall.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax 135mm f2.5 -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
July PUG worth a look!
Some great pics in the July pug. HIghlights for me were Ken Waller and Walter Hamler's Blue Angel pics, Christine's shot of a plane ascending into the clouds, Robb's seaplane, Ted Beilby's wingwalker and biplane, Dan Matyola's classic airborne refueling pic, and as an example of a really nice composition, Rick Womer's shot of a small plane at rest. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-7 and 77 Ltd
Wow. Filled the request, took a great shot, and made a great pun. You are on a roll. And that really is a great shot. So maybe it wasn't the K-7 after all . . .not that I could afford the Canon. ;-) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of wendy beard Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:21 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's just me, but how about a photo *OF* the K-7 with the 77 Ltd? I'm not dogging the doggie pics, I just want some camera/lens porn. Please...? --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT The PEN Story
That's a really absorbing piece. Beautifully done. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT The PEN Story That ones been around on the net few a few weeks. Doesn't matter! It's still brilliant. On Thursday, July 23, 2009, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I was sent the following link, it's a 3min ad for the new Oly Pen, interesting, someone in marketing let go of the creative reins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Et7UQh1tg -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey www.gdgphoto.com www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto www.twitter.com/godfreydigiorgi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd
wendy beard wrote: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's just me, but how about a photo *OF* the K-7 with the 77 Ltd? I'm not dogging the doggie pics, I just want some camera/lens porn. Please...? --M. Sonofabitch! That's a great shot, Wendy! Your dog must have a good camera. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd
wendy beard wrote: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 Right. Now if you want to really impress us, have the *dog* take a shot of *you* with the K7 and 77 Ltd. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG worth a look!
Thanks for looking and commenting. Dan On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Some great pics in the July pug. HIghlights for me were Ken Waller and Walter Hamler's Blue Angel pics, Christine's shot of a plane ascending into the clouds, Robb's seaplane, Ted Beilby's wingwalker and biplane, Dan Matyola's classic airborne refueling pic, and as an example of a really nice composition, Rick Womer's shot of a small plane at rest. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JULY PUG is up
Wonderful! Thanks again, so much, Scott, for all your efforts and you talents on our behalf. Dan On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: July PUG is up. http://pug.komkon.org/ August is still open. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JULY PUG is up
Pretty good collection of shots! I'd give it an A. The variety of compositions and technical quality are excellent. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Scott Lovelesssdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: July PUG is up. http://pug.komkon.org/ August is still open. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Manure Spreader
We've got a lot of manure spreaders around here G Dan On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:00 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Went to a friend's brother's 60th birthday party. Took lots of photos, few interesting to anyone who wasn't there. There was this however... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20manurespreader.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5.6. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Every time you miss a shot ...
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Every time you miss a shot ... Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. God kills kittens because he can. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JULY PUG is up
Scott Loveless wrote: July PUG is up. http://pug.komkon.org/ August is still open. Everyone's submission was at least good, except for mine... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! I think this thread should be just set out to dry. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO -- Happy Dog
Another dog picture! Clearly we are entering the dog days of summer. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO -- Happy Dog Good lens and very well exposed image. Looks like 'Happy' has a case of what I believe is called cherry eye.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Happy Dog To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:34 PM I've been going through the shots I made while testing the K20 and some are acceptable... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20happydog.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Notes: Popup flash green, (doggy version of red eye) and all... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page
Hi Ann That all looks pretty smick Attractive layout and logical interface. I really like the On the Road Again, Jim Thorpe PA and (dare I say it) the Ashley galleries. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:41 -0400, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I mean, it IS photography , and there are a ton of photos taken with a Pentax LX or KX . I did a new banner (newnew, as I slightly changed the one from a day or two ago ) and simplified the front page... reorganized a lot... more to do, but except for possibly puting a link on the index page to my cafepress store directly in the footer and using html to name names of other sites instead of the http:// blah blah stuff (I do know HOW to do this - but have other things more pressing at the moment ) Got inspired by both Doug and Christine to finally get this done - and the fact that I'm getting a bit of help with rent now so I'm not so crazed listing things on eekbay has helped. sooo have a look-see , gang, on my monitor with my settings in Firefox, explorer and even old Netscape it looks right to me. I should look at it on other machines . Appreciate any comments and certainly if you see a link or a stupid typo let me know -- but only if you happen on it or have no life and look at everything :-) I would like it if the page stretched -- but unless I got heavily into css that isn't going to happen because of the preferred theme I'm using on the site...or the smugmug techies get around to a stretchy black background style. so here you are! ann sanfedele photography at: http://annsan.smugmug.com ann -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
On 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! I think this thread should be just set out to dry. Go with the flo, PJ. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
July PUG
WOW! A truly superb PUG. There are very few things I like better than photography and aircraft, and when them come together, I am happy indeed. This gallery has a broad spectrum of aviation shots, from the marvelous views of the Blue Angels (one of my favorite acts of all time) to very personal views of flying and traveling. I enjoyed them all. My favorite is High up by Carl Gjersem. The composition is just perfect, and the overwhelming blue sky beckons to come explore. A wonderful image. Even though I think we have seen it before, as a PESO, my second favorite is Plane and Cloud by Christine Aguila. Great eye, wonderful catch, perfect execution. A few other comments: Traveling by Bob Sullivan: I've been there; we have all been there. Why didn't I take that shot. (Actually, I tried to once or twice, but never with the fine results that Bob achieved.) In the depth of the sky by Igor Roshchin. Another view that we have all seen, but never been able to capture as well as Igor did. Very nice indeed. Griswold Airport viewed from Hammonsset State Park by P. J. Alling. This really appeals to something in my. The image captures very well the romance of the small landing field in the middle of nowhere. It makes me want to get out there and explore again. Gather Up Men by Walter Hamler. Wonderful capture and great composition. I feel like I am in the fourth plane, ready to join the formation. I really enjoyed this gallery. Thanks to all who submitted their work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Every time you miss a shot ...
So says Pope Bill I. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Every time you miss a shot ... - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Every time you miss a shot ... Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. God kills kittens because he can. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Old Painted Wall
Something tells me I'd like to see that in colour. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:52 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find peeling paint that's as interesting as others can... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20oldpaintedwall.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax 135mm f2.5 -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Polaroid again?
Those cameras look like the exact opposite of Holgas and Lomos. Small Objet des Arts, not cheap plastic toys. Bob W wrote: there is a thriving market in Lomos, Holgas and suchlike, and over here the Photographers' Gallery seems to do a decent trade in small wooden pinhole cameras that use 35mm film. I should think a new Polaroid camera would be pitched at the same market segment and would stand a decent chance of making a small living for itself. http://www.zeroimage.com/web2003/EntryPage/entryFrameset.htm It sounds like a strange business idea to me (or I don't understand what exactly they are trying to do), but who knows http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090720/us_time/08599191053600 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Tutu
Now that's just sad. Not the shot (I like it) but the concept. I hope that pooch peed on the driver's seat. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:46 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: No connection except I took the image, thank the powers. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tutu.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5,6 -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS: Lenses, Camera, TC's, Tripod
For sale now via eBay: Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX Macro for Pentax AF http://tinyurl.com/nkrpzk Pentax A* 400mm / f 2.8 ED [IF] Telephoto http://tinyurl.com/lme39x Pentax SMC FA 50mm f1.7 f/1.7 AF Prime Lens http://tinyurl.com/m2ffon For sale next week (or now via best offer). I haven't done my research yet, but I'll put my guess for the price neighborhood. Pentax F AF 1.7x Teleconverter (no price yet) Pentax 1.4x-L Teleconverter (170) Pentax SMCP-FA 20-35mm f/4 (no price yet) Bogen 3036 tripod legs (70) Bogen 3038 tripod head (45) Leg wraps for aforementioned tripod (12) Photos of Teleconverters: http://celebratelove.us/ebay/tcs For sale at some point soon: Pentax K10D Body D-BG2 Battery Grip for Pentax K10D K20D Digital AF-540 FGZ P-TTL Shoe Mount Flash Everything is either in very good or excellent condition. BTW, this email address is only used for list traffic and I don't monitor it very closely (lots of junk mail via the list these days). With that in mind, please contact me at jerome at celebratelove dot us. Thanks! Jerome http://celebratelove.us/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Red Tail Hawk
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:32 -0400, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: This is why I carry a camera everywhere... I was walking in downtown Madison CT. Once but no longer a rural town, and turned a corner surprising this beauty dining on a small rabbet alfresco. He took off in a flurry of feathers surprising the heck out of me carrying his lunch with him, to make a visit to the local BOA branch. I shot a few shots of him, (you can just see his lunch on the peak of the roof. He didn't look happy with me. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawk.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6 I decided to give Dropbox a try. It looks promising. Nice grab. Glad you're finding Dropbox useful. I'm wondering whether it will remain ad-free once it gets to Version 1. We'll see. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Happy Dog
Dog days HAR! Right now it's raining and despite the official temperature it feels cold, and except for yesterday it's been that way for most of the summer. I still have hopes for August. Desjardins, Steve wrote: Another dog picture! Clearly we are entering the dog days of summer. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO -- Happy Dog Good lens and very well exposed image. Looks like 'Happy' has a case of what I believe is called cherry eye.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Happy Dog To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:34 PM I've been going through the shots I made while testing the K20 and some are acceptable... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20happydog.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Notes: Popup flash green, (doggy version of red eye) and all... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Happy Dog
Yes he does, the vet tells me that as long as it isn't irritated removing it is just a cosmetic procedure. Jack Davis wrote: Good lens and very well exposed image. Looks like 'Happy' has a case of what I believe is called cherry eye.(?) Jack --- On Thu, 7/23/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Happy Dog To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:34 PM I've been going through the shots I made while testing the K20 and some are acceptable... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20happydog.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0 Notes: Popup flash green, (doggy version of red eye) and all... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG
Dan, Thanks for the notice on my modest photo. Like you, I enjoyed the shots out the windows as excellent. I've tried, but never gotten as good as Igor's or Graydon Saunders'. Of course, High up by Carl Gjersem is a favorite. Simply stunning, in a gallery of great photos! Mark, this would make the start of a great Blurb book... Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com wrote: WOW! A truly superb PUG. There are very few things I like better than photography and aircraft, and when them come together, I am happy indeed. This gallery has a broad spectrum of aviation shots, from the marvelous views of the Blue Angels (one of my favorite acts of all time) to very personal views of flying and traveling. I enjoyed them all. My favorite is High up by Carl Gjersem. The composition is just perfect, and the overwhelming blue sky beckons to come explore. A wonderful image. Even though I think we have seen it before, as a PESO, my second favorite is Plane and Cloud by Christine Aguila. Great eye, wonderful catch, perfect execution. A few other comments: Traveling by Bob Sullivan: I've been there; we have all been there. Why didn't I take that shot. (Actually, I tried to once or twice, but never with the fine results that Bob achieved.) In the depth of the sky by Igor Roshchin. Another view that we have all seen, but never been able to capture as well as Igor did. Very nice indeed. Griswold Airport viewed from Hammonsset State Park by P. J. Alling. This really appeals to something in my. The image captures very well the romance of the small landing field in the middle of nowhere. It makes me want to get out there and explore again. Gather Up Men by Walter Hamler. Wonderful capture and great composition. I feel like I am in the fourth plane, ready to join the formation. I really enjoyed this gallery. Thanks to all who submitted their work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: JULY PUG is up
I really enjoyed seeing everyone's submissions for this PUG. P.J., your airstrip shot reminds me of countless strips that I visited with my Dad while he was delivering wings to crop dusting companies in California. I loved them because I never knew what I would see, crashed airplanes, beautiful private planes, a ball turret from a B-17, etc. The variety of shots in this gallery is very nice. Christine, I like your shot but keep your hands on the wheel. Ted Beilby The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
Scott Loveless wrote: On 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! I think this thread should be just set out to dry. Go with the flo, PJ. He won't pay any attention to you; you know he's a callow type. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday - Lenses, bags, flash
Doing a little summer clean out. 1) Tokina AF 20-35/3.5-4.5, 72mm filter size, comes with generic front rear caps. $125 2) Pentax M75-150/4, 49mm filter size, built in sun shade, push-pull zoom, front rear caps. $45 3) Lowepro Street Field Rover Light camera backpack in black tan. Has lower compartment for photo gear, upper compartment for personal gear, zippered outside pockets, tripod holder, chest waist straps for stability $65 4) Domke F5-XB camera bag, black canvas with shoulder strap. Has both zipper velcro to secure contents. $30 5) Sunpak 266D thyristor flash - manual zoom head from 35-135, bounces but doesn't swivel. Takes 4x AA batteries. Originally bought for use with Zx-5n. $15. USPS shipping add $10 within US. Higher for elsewhere (let me know where). Check or money order preferred. Photos at: http://picasaweb.google.com/gldnbearz.pdml/090714Gear_for_sale?feat=directlink Please contact off list if interested. - Pat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Kodak DC 25 camera and files.
:) OK, understood. BRM P. J. Alling wrote: Drawers is a synonym for pants, often used for underwear... Margus Männik wrote: Well, unfortunately I'm not a native English speaker (and me and my first English teacher, we considered each other as complete morons) ... but hopefully you can explain me? BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: (it's amazing what a man can have in his drawers, isn't it?) MARK! Yes, the best quotes are out of context... Then again maybe you have to be a native English speaker pf a certain age to know just how funny this is... Margus Männik wrote: Hi Drew, if you can find suitable connectors (PC-serial is standard and IMO the camera connector is not very special either), I can find out the connection scheamatics for you. I bought Chinon ES-3000 (=DC50 in white) last winter. Paid a whole Euro for it on eBay :) Full set with card, cables, software and manual. Still, I had MUCH trouble with getting the pictures from card to computer. Damn software (which is mandatory to transfer pictures from card or camera via cable) works exclusively on W95. So I had to dig out my old Compaq Contura from cellar, install the software and transfer pics to Contura. Then I got another PCMCIA memory card (it's amazing what a man can have in his drawers, isn't it?) and transfered pics from Contura to my new laptop. After that I transfered 'em with USB stick to my desktop workstation. Was it worth it? Hardly... Was it fun? Yes! BR, Margus Drew wrote: I have a DC50... it's got zoom! it was the first digital camera my company bought. I used it extensively until we bought a 1.3Mpix Olympus. Actually I am on the lookout for a serial cable for the Kodak should anyone have one around?? Cheers, Drew. Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 21, 2009, at 05:27 , Bruce Walker wrote: David J Brooks wrote: I used to own this digital camera, picked it up in 1997. I have an older iomega zip drive, 100meg, that i have the dc25 files stored on. I have tried to find the software via a google search, but it seems unavailable. I have a few photos of my parents at their 50th wedding lunch i would like to try and get off the disk. Whats the chances any one on the list used the camera and has the software.??? None i suppose. I cannot remember if the zip drive(plugs into the printer port) required software or not. Dave Dave, the parallel port Zip drives required a driver for Windows. There's also an alternate cable that attaches those Zip drives to older Macs via the Mac SCSI port connector. This may be what you need for Windows ... http://www.softwarepatch.com/utilities/iomega-zip.html However, what format are the images saved in? Possibly not JPEG, but perhaps Photo-CD? I had a laugh reading the DC25 manual PDF: http://is.gd/1Gldq We've come along nicely since the DC25: 5 seconds to produce a 320x240 pixel image. Took a 2 *megabyte* CF card. Yowza! At the January 1996 MacWorld User Group Breakfast, I won a copy of the newly released High Resolution DC-40. The manual reveals: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/digCam/dc40/manual/dc40english..pdf that the same 5 secs between images, 8 seconds if you use the flash. It took 756 x 504 pixels, 24 bit color depth. Still have it somewhere, in a black and chartreuse case... Yowza indeed! If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page
ann sanfedele wrote: I mean, it IS photography , and there are a ton of photos taken with a Pentax LX or KX . I did a new banner (newnew, as I slightly changed the one from a day or two ago ) and simplified the front page... reorganized a lot... more to do, but except for possibly puting a link on the index page to my cafepress store directly in the footer and using html to name names of other sites instead of the http:// blah blah stuff (I do know HOW to do this - but have other things more pressing at the moment ) Got inspired by both Doug and Christine to finally get this done - and the fact that I'm getting a bit of help with rent now so I'm not so crazed listing things on eekbay has helped. sooo have a look-see , gang, on my monitor with my settings in Firefox, explorer and even old Netscape it looks right to me. I should look at it on other machines . Appreciate any comments and certainly if you see a link or a stupid typo let me know -- but only if you happen on it or have no life and look at everything :-) I would like it if the page stretched -- but unless I got heavily into css that isn't going to happen because of the preferred theme I'm using on the site...or the smugmug techies get around to a stretchy black background style. so here you are! ann sanfedele photography at: http://annsan.smugmug.com ann Good job, Ann. Nice overview of your work, and logical layout. I mentioned before that I had written a little about you and your photography on my blog. Here is the copy: I’ve been wanting to write a post about a photographer I know who has such an incredible eye for absurdity, and who has produced some of the funniest photographs I’ve ever seen. Her name is Ann Sanfedele, and I have a personally autographed copy of this image, which makes me smile every time I look at it. She is, in my opinion, criminally under-celebrated, and not just when it comes to her comic images, but for the overall body of work she has created over multiple decades. Several of my regular readers know Ann, but many of you don’t. When you get a chance, check out her work here. Order some of it. Be the first on your block. I don’t even get a cut. Obviously the links in there don't work here, but they are live on my site. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! These acid comments are not so aesthetic -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page
NIce write up, Doug, well deserved. Ann should be very pleased! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com Good job, Ann. Nice overview of your work, and logical layout. I mentioned before that I had written a little about you and your photography on my blog. Here is the copy: I’ve been wanting to write a post about a photographer I know who has such an incredible eye for absurdity, and who has produced some of the funniest photographs I’ve ever seen. Her name is Ann Sanfedele, and I have a personally autographed copy of this image, which makes me smile every time I look at it. She is, in my opinion, criminally under-celebrated, and not just when it comes to her comic images, but for the overall body of work she has created over multiple decades. Several of my regular readers know Ann, but many of you don’t. When you get a chance, check out her work here. Order some of it. Be the first on your block. I don’t even get a cut. Obviously the links in there don't work here, but they are live on my site. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page
Yellow boxes??? What yellow boxes??? yikes! MIke -- I was playing around with color stuff yesterday .. thought I was making some text less white and screwed up... that being said -- I presume you mean the details coming up when you do a slide show... if you click on the thumbnails instead and then next' that doesn't happen... I'll also go and look at each gallery -- if you were looking at the Comfort Diner stuff, the captions are stories... and I have to have them there... but there is, hopefully, a way to get rid of captions for the slide show. I presume you were carefully looking at the work, not just the front page... I haven't changed anything within galleries at all... Could you send me a link to the gallery you saw this in? There were some system wide bugs a bit ago, too... I know I don't want yellow boxes anywhere :-) thanks for pointing that out! ann mike wilson wrote: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Appreciate any comments and certainly if you see a link or a stupid typo let me know -- but only if you happen on it or have no life and look at everything :-) Too much coming up in the yellow boxes. They only last about 3 seconds and a terse sentence is the most you can thoroughly absorb in that time. The other stuff (or, indeed, all of it) would be better underneath the relevant picture/link. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: semi OT - Presenting my revised photo web page
follow up -- ack -- I hope I can correct what you mean --- apparently when you mouse over a thumb the whole gallery description shows up in a text box... annoying enough, to me as well as you, but then there was a brief time when I was trying out colors for what I thought was only tiny text and used yellow... took it out immediately when I saw that it made the text under the thumbnails yellow... there must be a way I can change this with code - at least I hope so... Once you enter a gallery there is plenty of time to read what I want you to read and what I need to keep in there. Meanwhile, Im surrounded by otehr peoples medical emergencies today xo, ann mike wilson wrote: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Appreciate any comments and certainly if you see a link or a stupid typo let me know -- but only if you happen on it or have no life and look at everything :-) Too much coming up in the yellow boxes. They only last about 3 seconds and a terse sentence is the most you can thoroughly absorb in that time. The other stuff (or, indeed, all of it) would be better underneath the relevant picture/link. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso PHC Lead line class today
Friends of ours asked if i could take some shots of their young daughter in the Lead Line class today. I took quite a few, but i like this one a lot. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535046 Not sure if i like it in BW http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535049 D200 Raw file, 70-200 VR F2.8, LR 2 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Every time you miss a shot ...
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Every time you miss a shot ... Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. God kills kittens because he can. That's why we sneak em into the house in a box. He'll never know. Dave William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT The PEN Story
A few of the local Henrys stores are having an Olympus rep in and doing a hands on demo this weekend i think. May try and attend that Dave On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Rob Studdertdistudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I was sent the following link, it's a 3min ad for the new Oly Pen, interesting, someone in marketing let go of the creative reins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Et7UQh1tg -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM, ann sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! These acid comments are not so aesthetic This is getting hard to process. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons
Seriously, though, I personally believe the K-7 to be a sort of one-off; a test-bed for technology intended for the 645 due next year. Jostein - Interesting. But there is some good new technology and software in the K-7, so surely Pentax would use that, and build on it, in future APS-C DSLRs? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Tom
An informal portrait... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tom.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm f2.8 Variable Focusing. Notes: A little soft, but I think that I shot this wide open. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Turbo Charged July Pug!
An excellent PUG! Great breadth: historical, dare-devilish, playful, and scenic. Love it! In all honesty, I enjoyed all the photos--subject matter highly interesting and execution terrific! Well done PDMLers! Thanks everyone, and thanks Scott for putting it together. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons
Ah yes, hope springs eternal. Ask any Red Sox fan, and after almost a century... AlunFoto wrote: 2009/7/23 Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com: Pentax claimed that the K7 would have lower noise. This is clearly not so. The difference is especially apparent at ISO 3200 and 6400 (both of which I would like to use). When I look at those images, it strikes me that the K20D pics looks slightly underexposed. I downloaded the ISO 1600 images and compared the histograms, and that only reinforced the impression. However I don't have any photo editing software on the computer I'm at today, so I can't lift the K20D image to see how comparable brightness affects the noise comparison. I suspect they will become quite similar, though. I'm glad I haven't yet bought a K-7. I may still buy one, but not for better noise. Or I may wait to see what testing shows when the K8 comes out. Some rumor mill had it that 8 was avoided because of Asian connotations about bad luck, and that K-9 was unacceptable to cat lovers. Or something. :-) Seriously, though, I personally believe the K-7 to be a sort of one-off; a test-bed for technology intended for the 645 due next year. Jostein -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Tutu
Tutu's funny, P.J. Also, I like the woman in the greasy spoon. Good catch on Red Tail as well. Looks like you're enjoying the K20D. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:46 PM Subject: PESO -- Tutu No connection except I took the image, thank the powers. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tutu.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f3.8~5,6 -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso PHC Lead line class today
Lovely! Dave, I prefer the color. The black hat and red jacket set off the great expression nicely. My pick is color! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com; Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com; Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: Peso PHC Lead line class today Friends of ours asked if i could take some shots of their young daughter in the Lead Line class today. I took quite a few, but i like this one a lot. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535046 Not sure if i like it in BW http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535049 D200 Raw file, 70-200 VR F2.8, LR 2 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
adorama doesn't seem to want my business
It looks like the monopod that meets my specs for reasonable quality and fitting in both my camera bag and budget is the Manfrotto 790B. At $33, and 16 collapsed, it looks like an affordable solution. I sent Adorama a note asking if there were any other monopods that met my specifications, this is the conversation so far. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Manfrotto and Bogen one company, with Gitzo as a competitor? On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:44:59AM -0400, A_Sales wrote: A A Hi, A A A please contact mfr for best advice L But the point was that I don't know what similar monopods are made by L other manufacturers. It's not like Manfrotto will suggest a Gitzo for L me to look at. - Forwarded message from A_Sales sa...@adorama.com - A Hi, A gitzo and manfrotto are one company A they will best assist you Thank you for shopping with us we appreciate your business. Sincerely, Morris Abrams - Online Customer Service E. serv...@adorama.com P.(800)223-2500 - P.(212)741-0401 Can I help you with anything else? Don't hesitate to ask We have assigned the following tracking ID to your inquiry: LTK16401792964X. Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us From: Larry Colen [...@red4est.com] To: Cc: Subject: Re: Monopod - Ticket# LTK16401792964X 201 818-9500 Thank you for shopping with us we appreciate your business. Sincerely, Morris Abrams - Online Customer Service E. serv...@adorama.com P.(800)223-2500 - P.(212)741-0401 Can I help you with anything else? Don't hesitate to ask We have assigned the following tracking ID to your inquiry: LTK16401792964X. Please use this ticket number in any correspondence with us From: Larry Colen [...@red4est.com] To: Cc: Subject: Monopod I'm looking for a monopod to carry in my lowepro Fastpack 350. I need something with a collapsed length of 17 or less (without the head). I'm also on a sub $100 budget at the moment. Eventually I may pick up the $250 carbon fiber wonder, but at the moment it looks like the Manfrotto 790B. Are there any other monopods that I should be looking at? Currently the biggest rig that I'd be using on it would be my Pentax K20 with tamron 18-250 or pentax A* 200/2.8. Thanks, Larry -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc - End forwarded message - -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: adorama doesn't seem to want my business It looks like the monopod that meets my specs for reasonable quality and fitting in both my camera bag and budget is the Manfrotto 790B. At $33, and 16 collapsed, it looks like an affordable solution. I sent Adorama a note asking if there were any other monopods that met my specifications, this is the conversation so far. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Manfrotto and Bogen one company, with Gitzo as a competitor? Get onto PentaxForums and bitch about it. That should wake up Helen Oster, who is the resident Adorama cheerleader. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-7 on tour
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=32474376page=1 John C is taking the K-7 and some lenses on tour and is looking for suggestions of places to meet up. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My current prime lens A-Team
How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso PHC Lead line class today
They must be very pleased with your work. I prefer the color. Jack --- On Fri, 7/24/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso PHC Lead line class today To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:12 AM Friends of ours asked if i could take some shots of their young daughter in the Lead Line class today. I took quite a few, but i like this one a lot. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535046 Not sure if i like it in BW http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9535049 D200 Raw file, 70-200 VR F2.8, LR 2 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Tom
I like the slightly soft look in this case. Nice color tones. Some facial shadows might be lightened a bit..or not. Jack --- On Fri, 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Tom To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:36 AM An informal portrait... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tom.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm f2.8 Variable Focusing. Notes: A little soft, but I think that I shot this wide open. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Tom
I was thinking that too. With RSE lightening shadows was a snap during raw conversion. With Pentax Photo Lab not so much. In fact the words No way Jose would describe it's capabilities perfectly. I still need a raw converter that matches my work flow. Jack Davis wrote: I like the slightly soft look in this case. Nice color tones. Some facial shadows might be lightened a bit..or not. Jack --- On Fri, 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO -- Tom To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 9:36 AM An informal portrait... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20tom.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 35-85mm f2.8 Variable Focusing. Notes: A little soft, but I think that I shot this wide open. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-7, some real-life testing
Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he missed the open laptop by a mere inch. When I discovered the mess this morning, it had krept into every nook and cranny of the camera and mostly dried. Nothing that could easily be wiped off with a damp cloth. So, exactly how waterproof is a K-7? Enough to clean it under running water? H... Luckily, although the service department of Pentax in Hamburg, Germany, has been disbanded, a while ago, the former head of service is still with the company. I explained the case to him... You don't have much choice, do you? And no, he saw no problem with this. I'm glad to report that cat and camera are doing fine again. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business
Larry, You sound too idealistic to me.. (I know you aren't that naive :-) ) After all, Adorama (unless you stop by at their store) is a mail-order store which has a relatively low margin and sells you what you want to buy, and not a consulting business. Like with most internet/mail-order serivices, you save by researching the products yourself, and if you are not capable of that, you pay the stupidity premium at the local BestBuy, Ritz Camera, etc. For that type of service that you want at a reasonable level, you pay extra bucks at a local knowledgeable store (if any). Igor Fri Jul 24 12:00:11 CDT 2009 Larry Colen wrote: I sent Adorama a note asking if there were any other monopods that met my specifications, this is the conversation so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7, some real-life testing
To quote most any 14 year old girl EEEAAAUUU. Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he missed the open laptop by a mere inch. When I discovered the mess this morning, it had krept into every nook and cranny of the camera and mostly dried. Nothing that could easily be wiped off with a damp cloth. So, exactly how waterproof is a K-7? Enough to clean it under running water? H... Luckily, although the service department of Pentax in Hamburg, Germany, has been disbanded, a while ago, the former head of service is still with the company. I explained the case to him... You don't have much choice, do you? And no, he saw no problem with this. I'm glad to report that cat and camera are doing fine again. :-) Ralf -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7, some real-life testing
On Jul 24, 2009, at 13:20, P. J. Alling wrote: To quote most any 14 year old girl EEEAAAUUU. 14-year-old girl, nothing. That's what *I* was going to say! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7, some real-life testing
All that narrative and NO photos?? =) - Pat 2009/7/24 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he missed the open laptop by a mere inch. When I discovered the mess this morning, it had krept into every nook and cranny of the camera and mostly dried. Nothing that could easily be wiped off with a damp cloth. So, exactly how waterproof is a K-7? Enough to clean it under running water? H... Luckily, although the service department of Pentax in Hamburg, Germany, has been disbanded, a while ago, the former head of service is still with the company. I explained the case to him... You don't have much choice, do you? And no, he saw no problem with this. I'm glad to report that cat and camera are doing fine again. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K-7, some real-life testing
Since day one, I have kept my istDS in a nice soft leather holster type bag when not in use. And I don't even have any cats Why leave any DSLR exposed to whatever? -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7, some real-life testing
Thank God. gldnbearz wrote: All that narrative and NO photos?? =) - Pat 2009/7/24 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he missed the open laptop by a mere inch. When I discovered the mess this morning, it had krept into every nook and cranny of the camera and mostly dried. Nothing that could easily be wiped off with a damp cloth. So, exactly how waterproof is a K-7? Enough to clean it under running water? H... Luckily, although the service department of Pentax in Hamburg, Germany, has been disbanded, a while ago, the former head of service is still with the company. I explained the case to him... You don't have much choice, do you? And no, he saw no problem with this. I'm glad to report that cat and camera are doing fine again. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.27/2258 - Release Date: 07/24/09 05:58:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My current prime lens A-Team
So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2009/7/24 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7, some real-life testing
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. Did you get the name of the guy you got that cat from? It wasn't Kenny R. by any chance? ;-) Congrats on surviving that horror show intact. I get annoyed enough at having to clean carpet of cat barf -- I can't imagine being confronted with your R-L scenario. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons
Huh? They won in 2004 and 2007. Do Cub fans have any hope? -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:40 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons Ah yes, hope springs eternal. Ask any Red Sox fan, and after almost a century... AlunFoto wrote: 2009/7/23 Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com: Pentax claimed that the K7 would have lower noise. This is clearly not so. The difference is especially apparent at ISO 3200 and 6400 (both of which I would like to use). When I look at those images, it strikes me that the K20D pics looks slightly underexposed. I downloaded the ISO 1600 images and compared the histograms, and that only reinforced the impression. However I don't have any photo editing software on the computer I'm at today, so I can't lift the K20D image to see how comparable brightness affects the noise comparison. I suspect they will become quite similar, though. I'm glad I haven't yet bought a K-7. I may still buy one, but not for better noise. Or I may wait to see what testing shows when the K8 comes out. Some rumor mill had it that 8 was avoided because of Asian connotations about bad luck, and that K-9 was unacceptable to cat lovers. Or something. :-) Seriously, though, I personally believe the K-7 to be a sort of one-off; a test-bed for technology intended for the 645 due next year. Jostein -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Red Tail Hawk II
I was looking at the photos of the Red Tail Hawk again and decided this one was worth a second go. It's about 3/5 of the frame cropped to 8x10 dimensions. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawkii.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-200mm f3.8~5.6 -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons
Kinda my point. However Pentax has only been promising a 645D for 3 or 4 years now approximately 90 left to go... Desjardins, Steve wrote: Huh? They won in 2004 and 2007. Do Cub fans have any hope? -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:40 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K20D vs. K7 High ISO Noise Comparisons Ah yes, hope springs eternal. Ask any Red Sox fan, and after almost a century... AlunFoto wrote: 2009/7/23 Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com: Pentax claimed that the K7 would have lower noise. This is clearly not so. The difference is especially apparent at ISO 3200 and 6400 (both of which I would like to use). When I look at those images, it strikes me that the K20D pics looks slightly underexposed. I downloaded the ISO 1600 images and compared the histograms, and that only reinforced the impression. However I don't have any photo editing software on the computer I'm at today, so I can't lift the K20D image to see how comparable brightness affects the noise comparison. I suspect they will become quite similar, though. I'm glad I haven't yet bought a K-7. I may still buy one, but not for better noise. Or I may wait to see what testing shows when the K8 comes out. Some rumor mill had it that 8 was avoided because of Asian connotations about bad luck, and that K-9 was unacceptable to cat lovers. Or something. :-) Seriously, though, I personally believe the K-7 to be a sort of one-off; a test-bed for technology intended for the 645 due next year. Jostein -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:15:00PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry, You sound too idealistic to me.. (I know you aren't that naive :-) ) Only sometimes. After all, Adorama (unless you stop by at their store) is a mail-order store which has a relatively low margin and sells you what you want to buy, and not a consulting business. Like with most Yeah, but I figured that they'd at least have some clue about their product line. Maybe I am that naive. internet/mail-order serivices, you save by researching the products yourself, and if you are not capable of that, you pay the stupidity premium at the local BestBuy, Ritz Camera, etc. For that type of service that you want at a reasonable level, you pay extra bucks at a local knowledgeable store (if any). Unfortunately the only short monopod at our local knowledgable store is $240. The Benro MP-66 and MC-66 also look promising, but don't seem to be available in the US. Likewise BH has a few that seem to meet my specs. I wish I could search on collapsed length. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Red Tail Hawk II
On Jul 24, 2009, at 14:02, P. J. Alling wrote: I was looking at the photos of the Red Tail Hawk again and decided this one was worth a second go. It's about 3/5 of the frame cropped to 8x10 dimensions. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20redtailhawkii.html Better. I like it closer-up so I can see what's going on... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DS-1 Exposure
See..I did need to put my glasses on...I try not to pound any of my cameras. John Graves WA1JG P. J. Alling wrote: Well I guess a pound ist DS is more palatable than a starkist DS... John Graves wrote: It's a #istDS before I put my glasses on. John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Bob Sullivan wrote: John, What's a DS1? Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM, John Gravesjh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: My aging eyes seem to tell me that my DS1 has lost about 1 stop. I find to get the exposure that I want, I need to expose at +1 stop, Do sensors age or have I changed my methods by 1 stop. I tend to use the single spot for exposure and work from there. Or is this the difference between what the sensor sees and what I see in my mind? -- John Graves WA1JG No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.27/2258 - Release Date: 07/24/09 05:58:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd
Handsome canine great capture also. Does he take cat shots? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-7 and 77 Ltd http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/115306358 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Misereremiser...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe it's just me, but how about a photo *OF* the K-7 with the 77 Ltd? I'm not dogging the doggie pics, I just want some camera/lens porn. Please...? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My current prime lens A-Team
I'm currently using the following with a Sigma 10-20 EX Dc to cover the wide end: Sigma AF 24mm/2.8 Super Wide SMC Pentax FA 28mm/2.8 SMC Pentax FA 35mm/2 SMC Pentax FA 50mm/1.4 SMC Pentax DA 70mm/2.4 Limited Tamron AF 90mm/2.8 Di SMC Pentax FA 135mm/2.8 SMC Pentax DA* 300mm/4 Tamron 1.4x AF TC Hopefully I'll get the SMC Pentax DA* 200mm/2.8 sometime soon, I was thinking about the the DA 15mm/4 at one point but decided it was too expensive for what it offered, so I'll be keeping the Sigma zoom for the foreseeable future. I also use the Sigma with the following as a second kit: Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX DG Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX Sigma 300/4 APO Macro Super Sigma 1.4x EX TC Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 18:33 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: My current prime lens A-Team How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso wandering sax player
I did! :-) Thu Jul 23 16:18:46 CDT 2009 Larry Colen wrote: Also, the flash has nothing to do with my bumbling, you should have seen my dancing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: July PUG?
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Subject: Re: July PUG? Scott Loveless wrote: On 7/24/09, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jul 23, 2009, at 23:48 , Cotty wrote: I see now that there is a pun thread all about my tardiness. Made my day. Sorry, no. The puns were on the aviation theme. You were utterly neglected, pun-wise. But we can try to fix that... Well, let's just see what develops Oh please, Stop It! I think this thread should be just set out to dry. Go with the flo, PJ. He won't pay any attention to you; you know he's a callow type. It burns me but I just couldn't dodge this one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My current prime lens A-Team
I like tend to favor FF manual focus optics for now. NO, I don't carry all these all the time, I have many other prime and zoom combos but if I had to cover widest range at best possible quality, this would be it for now. My minimal kit is a 18mm prime smck f3.5 24-50/A F4 70-210/a F4 300 A* F4 Zooms would cut down on this all prime kit quite a bit, and many of them are indeed quite sharp, but they are generally not in same class as these from a contrast/tonal range standpoint. One thing I have learned with lenses is that you may not always be able to see or exploit the better sharpness of a sharper lens but you can almost always see and exploit the better tonal range/contrast of a better contrast range/ better tonality lens. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Miserere Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:53 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: My current prime lens A-Team So long as it's not me carrying your bag, I don't see a problem with it :-) But you wouldn't have these all on you at all times, right? Have you considered an FA 20mm f/2.8? Or are you wanting to keep it all manual focus? --M. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2009/7/24 J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net: How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My current prime lens A-Team
that's a nice setup, but its more lenses than I would want to carry along or risk losing. I have lenses in nearly every fl from 15mm to 1000mm but I wouldn't want to bring them all with me. That's why I spaced it out to seven total and even that's pushing it in terms of number of lenses to carry along. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team I'm currently using the following with a Sigma 10-20 EX Dc to cover the wide end: Sigma AF 24mm/2.8 Super Wide SMC Pentax FA 28mm/2.8 SMC Pentax FA 35mm/2 SMC Pentax FA 50mm/1.4 SMC Pentax DA 70mm/2.4 Limited Tamron AF 90mm/2.8 Di SMC Pentax FA 135mm/2.8 SMC Pentax DA* 300mm/4 Tamron 1.4x AF TC Hopefully I'll get the SMC Pentax DA* 200mm/2.8 sometime soon, I was thinking about the the DA 15mm/4 at one point but decided it was too expensive for what it offered, so I'll be keeping the Sigma zoom for the foreseeable future. I also use the Sigma with the following as a second kit: Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX DG Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX Sigma 300/4 APO Macro Super Sigma 1.4x EX TC Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 18:33 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: My current prime lens A-Team How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Every time you miss a shot ...
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Every time you miss a shot ... - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Every time you miss a shot ... Every time you miss a shot because you don't have the right lens, God kills a kitten. God kills kittens because he can. Could be because he doesn't want the competition. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: adorama doesn't seem to want my business
This sounds like the time that I got a message from Pentax service that said, in essence, We don't know anything but feel free to ask any time. You might get advice from BH on the phone, but it will be fast-paced, New York-style advice. Adorama is a funny company in many ways. I now buy from them less often than I used to. Their support staff are only able to read from scripts. No doubt in the case the script read Contact the manufacturer. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7, some real-life testing
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com Subject: Re: K-7, some real-life testing All that narrative and NO photos?? =) Now there's a topic for a future PUG - What my cat threw up. - Pat 2009/7/24 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he missed the open laptop by a mere inch. When I discovered the mess this morning, it had krept into every nook and cranny of the camera and mostly dried. Nothing that could easily be wiped off with a damp cloth. So, exactly how waterproof is a K-7? Enough to clean it under running water? H... Luckily, although the service department of Pentax in Hamburg, Germany, has been disbanded, a while ago, the former head of service is still with the company. I explained the case to him... You don't have much choice, do you? And no, he saw no problem with this. I'm glad to report that cat and camera are doing fine again. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Mini Megalith
Some people try to replicate Stonehenge in their driveways... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20minimegalith.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax 28-200mm f3.8~5.6 -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7, some real-life testing
On 24/7/09, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed: Sometime last night, Leonidas, on of our two cats, has thrown up a hairball. Not exactly newsworthy, you'd say. Well, he's done so *after* having a copious meal and on my desk - right over my new K-7. And I've even been lucky as he missed the open laptop by a mere inch. When I discovered the mess this morning, it had krept into every nook and cranny of the camera and mostly dried. Nothing that could easily be wiped off with a damp cloth. So, exactly how waterproof is a K-7? Enough to clean it under running water? H... Luckily, although the service department of Pentax in Hamburg, Germany, has been disbanded, a while ago, the former head of service is still with the company. I explained the case to him... You don't have much choice, do you? And no, he saw no problem with this. I'm glad to report that cat and camera are doing fine again. :-) Ralf, that is the grossest story I have ever read since buying a computer and going online in 1997. RGH. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: My current prime lens A-Team
Hi John I rarely carry anything longer than the 135 on a regular basis, unless I'm shooting motorsport or wildlife. I sometimes replace the FA 135 and 1.4 TC with the F 70-210 zoom or Tamron 70-300 LD Di. The Tamron is actually sharper than the F 70-210 and works really well with the 1.4 TC if needed, it forms a part of my light travel kit with the DA 18-55 II zoom. FYI I find the SMCK 18mm/3.5 a little disappointing on digital, at least on the K10D and K20D. Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 20:44 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team that's a nice setup, but its more lenses than I would want to carry along or risk losing. I have lenses in nearly every fl from 15mm to 1000mm but I wouldn't want to bring them all with me. That's why I spaced it out to seven total and even that's pushing it in terms of number of lenses to carry along. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: My current prime lens A-Team I'm currently using the following with a Sigma 10-20 EX Dc to cover the wide end: Sigma AF 24mm/2.8 Super Wide SMC Pentax FA 28mm/2.8 SMC Pentax FA 35mm/2 SMC Pentax FA 50mm/1.4 SMC Pentax DA 70mm/2.4 Limited Tamron AF 90mm/2.8 Di SMC Pentax FA 135mm/2.8 SMC Pentax DA* 300mm/4 Tamron 1.4x AF TC Hopefully I'll get the SMC Pentax DA* 200mm/2.8 sometime soon, I was thinking about the the DA 15mm/4 at one point but decided it was too expensive for what it offered, so I'll be keeping the Sigma zoom for the foreseeable future. I also use the Sigma with the following as a second kit: Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX DG Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX Sigma 300/4 APO Macro Super Sigma 1.4x EX TC Regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of J.C. O'Connell [hifis...@gate.net] Sent: 24 July 2009 18:33 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: My current prime lens A-Team How does this sound for a prime lens setup from 18-300mm for Pentax DSLR? 18 - smck f3.5 28 - smck f3.5 50 - smcA f1.4 85 - smck f1.8 120- smck f2.8 180- tamron spif f2.5 300- smcA* f4.0 kinda expensive, not very light or compact but workable. Just don't wanna get the bag lost or stolen for sure! I might wanna add a 14mm later. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Home Page - www.jchriso.com Join the Audio CD PLAYER DISCUSSION list - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.