PESO 2009 - 131 - GDG

2009-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Chair on sidewalk, coffee, drizzle ...

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Re: why I am a fossil

2009-08-11 Thread John Celio

I never, or almost never, remember that i can change the sensitivity of
the sensor when i am shooting.

I was wishing i had the ND filters earlier.  800 iso   sigh


Perhaps you could set your camera to auto-select ISO from a range of speeds, 
so that you don't have to think about it?  My K10D can do this, so yours 
might too, depending on which model you have.


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Re: why I am a fossil

2009-08-11 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:10:51 -0700
John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:

 Perhaps you could set your camera to auto-select ISO from a range of
 speeds, so that you don't have to think about it?  My K10D can do
 this, so yours might too, depending on which model you have.

I have the K10D as well.  I am hoping that admitting I have a problem
will lead to recovery.

I may have to go to auto everything but at the moment all my good glass
is manual focus except the 80-320.

If I do not recall next time out auto ISO might have to me the solution.

Thanks.

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RE: GESO - Huntington

2009-08-11 Thread Bob W
  
 Family and I drove over to Huntington, WV on Saturday for a 
 day out and to eat at Hillbilly Hot Dogs, a sort of trash art 
 dive outside Huntington. Here are a few of the photos I made 
 on the trip.
 
 http://www.alphoto.com/images/huntington/index.html
 
 enjoy

All very good. I particularly enjoyed the interiors, with the people.

Bob


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Re: Why engineers never score

2009-08-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
And the Project Pebble (photo contest winner) has Pentax contents in it. 
Just see:

http://www.projectpebble.co.uk/

Dario

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Would you like to come upstairs and see my miniaturised silicon ring
resonator?

But perhaps they should:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8192569.stm

Bob



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Re: why I am a fossil

2009-08-11 Thread Leon Altoff
Bran,

When I was facing a large range of lighting conditions while
travelling with my K10D I tended to use SV mode so I could select the
ISO and the aperture as needed.  It was the most versatile mode for
changing conditions and having instant access to the ISO certainly
gets you used to changing it.

Leon


2009/8/11 Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net:
 On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:10:51 -0700
 John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:

 Perhaps you could set your camera to auto-select ISO from a range of
 speeds, so that you don't have to think about it?  My K10D can do
 this, so yours might too, depending on which model you have.

 I have the K10D as well.  I am hoping that admitting I have a problem
 will lead to recovery.

 I may have to go to auto everything but at the moment all my good glass
 is manual focus except the 80-320.

 If I do not recall next time out auto ISO might have to me the solution.

 Thanks.

 Bran

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Re: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-11 Thread mike wilson

AlunFoto wrote:


What happened to mid-September, btw?


Sorry, I missed this.  Mid September is a non-starter for me this year. 
 A sudden decision to (finally) change my work post to what it should 
have been for about the last five years means that I will not have time 
to take a deep breath for most of that month.  I'm not actually looking 
forward to the start of the next academic year, although I am looking 
forward to September's pay packet...


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Re: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-11 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

   This one is nice - available and £785 - 4 bedrooms, 5 adults max, 


sleeps 8, yards from beach :-)

http://www.northumbria-cottages.co.uk/cgi-bin/database/pas.cgi?
code=BOATHcod=5


~£200 per bedroom for a week.  Looks like the two non-family 
rooms sleep two each.  Anyone else interested for the week 
starting 23/10/09?





I can't do a week, but I could probably do a long weekend.


Seems to be consensus.  Anyone else interested if it is a long weekend? 
 Could probably move it to September as well.


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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-11 Thread mike wilson

Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

I'd be interested in knowing if you like the interface and the inclusion 
of text here.  If not, feel free to say so.  If you hover your curser 
over the right side middle of the large frame you get an advance arrow.


If you scroll your mouse wheel, it whizzes through the pictures.  Also, 
if you click to the right underneath the thumbs and above the text, it 
moves to the next set then back with a click to the left.




I really haven't done much street work lately, and I really felt timid.  
I used only the K20D and DA 21mm for this evening's shoot.  The RAW 
frames were noisier than I would have expected, but overall execution 
wasn't at peak, so maybe that accounts for it. Please view photo #9 with 
a sense of humor, guys  :-).


I can just imagine the two of you, fiddling with stuff in your laps. 
Bet you had the carriage all to yourselves after that.



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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread David Mann

On Aug 11, 2009, at 9:16 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:


ALT + PRTSC will copy the active window.  Or, on my laptop, where the
PRTSC button is combined with the INSERT key, I also have to hit FN.
So we're back to quadruple-bucky-hole-in-the-head.


For Windows I recommend MWSnap.

http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/mwsnap.html

Cheers,
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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread David Mann

On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

When OS 10.6 comes out next month sometime, it's 64 bit architecture  
will run on any Intel based Mac going back to 2006. Gonna make  
Photoshop and Lightroom and Aperture scream. Although all Mac  
Photoshop users will have to wait for PS CS5 to get the good 64 bit  
code.


Why will being 64-bit make it faster?

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Re: Why engineers never score

2009-08-11 Thread David Mann

On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Bob W wrote:


Would you like to come upstairs and see my miniaturised silicon ring
resonator?

But perhaps they should:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8192569.stm


It must have been judged by engineers if the winning photo was a  
picture of a camera.


Dave

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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-11 Thread Thibouille
A couple more comments after readings all posts :)

* I know I don't need GpsBabel but it is easier to plug it rather than
having to mess with the MicroSD card content. Not I don't want to, but
I didn't take time to look into it yet.
Houdah can't find the Garmin directly it seems. So GPSBabel is easier, for now.

* The type of device you chose to use has more undirect consequences
than one might think:

   - A logger is easier to use but most of them have built-in battery
you can't remove. What if it is depleted? Sucks huh? Even if it is
removable, one more charger :(
   - I dunno if some loggers use AA or AAA. That would be an answer.
Autonomy is often questionable (like 5-10 hours max).

   - You may trust a logger green LED  stating it catched satelites, I
really prefer seeing that on a screen. Dunno why, I'm more confident
that way.

   - As some did suggest, you can use smartphones (Blackberries,
iphone 3G etc.) to log GPS positions. The question is: do you want to
risk your phone's battery getting depleted by logging your positions?
I certainly don't but that's just me of course. Also, I may have chose
that if I already had a phone with GPS, much cheaper then.

   - AFAIK most loggers or phones will get basic GPS reception meaning
less accuracy than specific GPS receivers (but is it important for
logging purposes? I dunno).

   - Car GPS devices can often be hacked and used as loggers (as I
wrote already) but internal non removable battery might be annoying.

   - Specific devices will usually stay way longer on batteries. 18-20
hours on two simple AAs are the way to go for me.

   - Maps can be difficult to find or expensive :(

I'm indeed looking at any other software which has been discussed in
this thread. Thanks to everybody for your input.

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PESOs- more from the funeral: yellow balloons

2009-08-11 Thread Bong Manayon
Joined Godfrey  Christine in Posterous.com ... ;-)

http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/

Some more shots from last week's national funeral: I ordinarily abhor
selective coloring but I thought it works well with this two photos
(as well as the one with the yellow umbrella).  This was after the
cortege passed and the rain really poured (thank goodness for weather
sealing in the K10D and the plastic bag for the FA...)

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Re: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-11 Thread AlunFoto
John Francis mentioned staying in London/Kent area for the first half
of September. I'll be in London for a meeting 10.-11. September and
can extend the stay over the week-end (12.-13.).
Here's the thread in the archives:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2009-July/185955.html

Jostein

2009/8/11 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 Bob W wrote:

    This one is nice - available and £785 - 4 bedrooms, 5 adults max,

 sleeps 8, yards from beach :-)

 http://www.northumbria-cottages.co.uk/cgi-bin/database/pas.cgi?
 code=BOATHcod=5

 ~£200 per bedroom for a week.  Looks like the two non-family rooms sleep
 two each.  Anyone else interested for the week starting 23/10/09?



 I can't do a week, but I could probably do a long weekend.

 Seems to be consensus.  Anyone else interested if it is a long weekend?
  Could probably move it to September as well.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread AlunFoto
2009/8/10 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 Hey, when your PC is frozen solid with virii, I'll still be twisting my
 fingers ;-)

Be careful, mate. Sprained fingers is a medical condition specific to
mac users that stems from having only one mouse button. ;-)

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread AlunFoto
Even with plenty of geographical features and a good sense of
orienteering, there are times when a GPS could mean the difference
between lost and found. As Rob says, with limited visibility,
geographical features you can use to pinpoint your position is fewer
than needed. Combined with suggestions from a GPS you may narrow down
the possibilities enough to make sense of what little you can see in
real-life and on a good map. :-)

The main mistake people make is to substitute common sense for trust
in a gadget.
... which applies to DSLRs too, in case we'd like to stray on-topic... :-)

Jostein


2009/8/11 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 On 11/08/2009, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:

 There's almost always /something/ in an inhabited area.  If you've got the
 right maps, they'll include individual buildings and the like, in addition
 to roads and terrain features.  Yeah, it's a lot easier to get lost, and a
 lot harder to correlate the sights with the map, but it is doable. (Maybe
 not by /me/, though :-) )  I've known some amazing orienteers over the
 years.

 So much Aussie bush that I traverse has next to no man made points of
 reference and such limited visibility that even geo contours are nigh
 on impossible to follow. GPS helps, I guess the guys who put it up
 there thought so also ;-)

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Re: GESO - Huntington

2009-08-11 Thread David J Brooks
Great gallery Doug.

I like the first one, the framing with the covered bridge and hillbilly gas.

Dave

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 Family and I drove over to Huntington, WV on Saturday for a day out and to
 eat at Hillbilly Hot Dogs, a sort of trash art dive outside Huntington. Here
 are a few of the photos I made on the trip.

 http://www.alphoto.com/images/huntington/index.html

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Re: why I am a fossil

2009-08-11 Thread John Graves

Auto ISO is a feature at least as far back as my DS.

John Graves
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John Celio wrote:

I never, or almost never, remember that i can change the sensitivity of
the sensor when i am shooting.

I was wishing i had the ND filters earlier.  800 iso   sigh


Perhaps you could set your camera to auto-select ISO from a range of 
speeds, so that you don't have to think about it?  My K10D can do this, 
so yours might too, depending on which model you have.


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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
I should say that second is the key word IMHO in your message, Sasha.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Old Pentax lenses are of exceptional build quality.
 New ones are also great (next thing I will buy will be 50-250mm, not
 sure when though), but there are some bad samples.
 It happens embarrassingly often.
 Same with bodies: my second copy of K7 works flawlessly so far...

 --Sasha

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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
I went to Penn Camera some days ago (sounds odd, doesn't it? ;-) ),
but Pentax was all but non-existent there. Few old manual lenses in
the used gear department, nothing in the new gear department. When
asked whether they had K-7 battery, the clerk indicated that he had no
idea what I was talking about and asked for the part number or some
such...

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:10 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote:
 Yesterday at the SF stop of the Pentax K-7 Viral Tour, someone asked why it
 was so hard to find Pentax equipment in local stores.  One of the reps said
 they were actively working to correct that, and gave two heartening
 examples.

 1.  Keeble  Shuchat, a big pro camera shop in San Jose was now stocking the
 K-7 and new lenses (a former coworker of mine who works there now had told
 me last winter they were dropping Pentax, so this is a nice about-face), and
 supposedly other camera shops are doing the same.  I suppose your local
 mileage may vary, but this can only be a good sign in general.

 2.  Fry's Electronics, a (mostly) west coast chain of GIANT electronics
 stores, is now carrying the K-7 and accessories.  This is awesome for a
 couple reasons.  First, in a recession, lots of people go to places like
 Fry's to find deals, so the K-7 will get a little more exposure there.
 Second, when the day comes that I can afford my own K-7 (I have a K-7 poster
 on the wall now as motivation), I'll be able to buy it locally.  I much
 prefer that to ordering from the east coast.

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Re: GESO - Huntington

2009-08-11 Thread Jack Davis
Thoroughly enjoyed the visit, Doug! Hope the hot dogs are held in a cleaner 
environment. ;)

Jack

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 Subject: GESO - Huntington
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 Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 9:15 PM
 Family and I drove over to
 Huntington, WV on Saturday for a day out and to eat at
 Hillbilly Hot Dogs, a sort of trash art dive outside
 Huntington. Here are a few of the photos I made on the
 trip.
 
 http://www.alphoto.com/images/huntington/index.html
 
 enjoy
 
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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
It makes me somewhat sad that I couldn' t make it to The Big Apple
this time... Wonderful gallery, Ann!

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, ann sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago...
 I _think_ I prefer the  BW.

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 I should say that second is the key word IMHO in your message, Sasha.

I've just spoken to my dealer and he'll exchange my K-7 as well as soon
as he gets his next delivery which is expected for late this or early
next week.

In addition to the trouble with the spirit level my K-7 seems to have a
problem with the paiting on the front frame. The slightest scratches
immediately go through to the bare metal. 

Ralf

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Re: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-11 Thread mike wilson

AlunFoto wrote:


John Francis mentioned staying in London/Kent area for the first half
of September. I'll be in London for a meeting 10.-11. September and
can extend the stay over the week-end (12.-13.).
Here's the thread in the archives:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2009-July/185955.html

Jostein


Will try to get this done over the next 48 hours so that people can make 
a sensible decision.




2009/8/11 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:


Bob W wrote:



  This one is nice - available and £785 - 4 bedrooms, 5 adults max,


sleeps 8, yards from beach :-)

http://www.northumbria-cottages.co.uk/cgi-bin/database/pas.cgi?
code=BOATHcod=5


~£200 per bedroom for a week.  Looks like the two non-family rooms sleep
two each.  Anyone else interested for the week starting 23/10/09?




I can't do a week, but I could probably do a long weekend.


Seems to be consensus.  Anyone else interested if it is a long weekend?
Could probably move it to September as well.



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RE: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-11 Thread Desjardins, Steve
I you got this one, Marnie.  It's Madonna as Marilyn.  It was the red mustache 
that threw me off.

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In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:04:47 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
Christine, Paul, Doug  -

I was leaning toward the bw strongly, but sometimes I don't trust  myself 
:-)

thanks all!

Now I'm gonna mess with folk and take the  color one out lol

ann

Doug Brewer wrote:

 ann sanfedele  wrote:

 poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago... I  _think_ I prefer 
 the  BW.
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium

=
Oh,  good to read that, because I couldn't even find a color version.

Like  bridge, like gallery (although I've seen a lot of them before). 
Actually, GREAT  gallery. 

And, yeah, on second look it does seem to be Madonna as  Marilyn. But that 
doesn't mean we are wrong when we say we like the two Marilyns  (because, 
after all, she was channeling Marilyn).

Heh.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)

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RE: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-11 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Add the word think between I and you.  Coffee, must get coffee . . .

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I you got this one, Marnie.  It's Madonna as Marilyn.  It was the red mustache 
that threw me off.

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In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:04:47 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
Christine, Paul, Doug  -

I was leaning toward the bw strongly, but sometimes I don't trust  myself 
:-)

thanks all!

Now I'm gonna mess with folk and take the  color one out lol

ann

Doug Brewer wrote:

 ann sanfedele  wrote:

 poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago... I  _think_ I prefer 
 the  BW.
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium

=
Oh,  good to read that, because I couldn't even find a color version.

Like  bridge, like gallery (although I've seen a lot of them before). 
Actually, GREAT  gallery. 

And, yeah, on second look it does seem to be Madonna as  Marilyn. But that 
doesn't mean we are wrong when we say we like the two Marilyns  (because, 
after all, she was channeling Marilyn).

Heh.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)

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Re: Why engineers never score

2009-08-11 Thread P. J. Alling
And reading the description, to put it succinctly in medical terms:  The 
operation was a success but the patient died.


Dario Bonazza wrote:
And the Project Pebble (photo contest winner) has Pentax contents in 
it. Just see:

http://www.projectpebble.co.uk/

Dario

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Would you like to come upstairs and see my miniaturised silicon ring
resonator?

But perhaps they should:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8192569.stm

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Re: Well, hello

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Welcome from Sunny Middle East ;-).

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:12 PM, SV Hovlandp...@heime.org wrote:
 Instead of a test mail as my first mail here, I tought I could introduce 
 myself.

 I am living in Sandnes, Norway. Sandnes is a small town with 60.000 citizens 
 and in an area around Stavanger with nearly 250.000 citizens. Its on the west 
 coast of Norway. I am 45 years old and don't have kids. In addition to take 
 photographs, I like driving around on my BMW K1100RS motorcycle.

 I started with SLRs when I was in the primary school and bought my first SLR 
 when I was in the army. It was an east German Practica ( 
 http://www.praktica-users.com/cams/bfirst/b200.html ), which lasted only a 
 few weeks in the cold :-) My second camera was a Pentax Program A which I had 
 for ages. It finally bit the dust on a trip to US when a dolfin in San Diego 
 splashed a large amount of salt water over me. So I bought a MZ-5 which was 
 used until *istDS came around. I found *istD to be too expensive for what you 
 get, but my *istDS was more affordable. I am still using my *istDS from time 
 to time, but not much. Since then I have had a K10D for three years and a K-7 
 for three weeks.

 Regarding lenses, I think I have a nice collection. My DA*16-50 is much used, 
 but I have the 15, 21, 35 and 77 Limiteds and maybe my DA21/3.2 is my most 
 used lens. Most of my older lenses was sold. I sold my FA*28-70/2.8 and don't 
 regret it too much. I am thinking of selling my FA*80-200/2.8, but the new 
 DA*60-250/4 is to expensive so I suppose I keep my 80-200.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread P. J. Alling

David Mann wrote:

On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

When OS 10.6 comes out next month sometime, it's 64 bit architecture 
will run on any Intel based Mac going back to 2006. Gonna make 
Photoshop and Lightroom and Aperture scream. Although all Mac 
Photoshop users will have to wait for PS CS5 to get the good 64 bit 
code.


Why will being 64-bit make it faster?

Dave


That's a good question, as it all things being equal it usually doesn't.

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread paul stenquist


On Aug 11, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:



In addition to the trouble with the spirit level my K-7 seems to  
have a

problem with the paiting on the front frame. The slightest scratches
immediately go through to the bare metal.




I'll have to take a look at mine and see if it's scratched. I know  
it's taken a beating already, hanging from my neck and bouncing off  
the K20, not to mention a lot of ground-level shooting. I'll be  
disappointed if it doesn't have any beauty marks:-). I'm at 5,000  
frames now. Lots of shooting coming up this week, so I may make 10,000  
by the end of the month. Great camera and a reliable workhorse thus far.

Paul

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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Christine, the only suggestion I have is to make it somehow obvious
that there are more pictures there then the initial thumbnail table
shows. I only went as far as the first 6 pictures and then having read
your comment about picture #9 looked further.

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 I'd be interested in knowing if you like the interface and the inclusion of
 text here.  If not, feel free to say so.  If you hover your curser over the
 right side middle of the large frame you get an advance arrow.

 I really haven't done much street work lately, and I really felt timid.  I
 used only the K20D and DA 21mm for this evening's shoot.  The RAW frames
 were noisier than I would have expected, but overall execution wasn't at
 peak, so maybe that accounts for it. Please view photo #9 with a sense of
 humor, guys  :-).


 http://caguila.com/caguila/streetwalk/

 Comments and critique welcome.
 Cheers, Christine


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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 I'll have to take a look at mine and see if it's scratched. I know  
 it's taken a beating already, hanging from my neck and bouncing off  
 the K20, not to mention a lot of ground-level shooting. I'll be  
 disappointed if it doesn't have any beauty marks:-). 

I don't mind the odd scratch or two. But we've had metal cameras before
and not every little mark would go through to the bare metal. Guess it
has to do with those modern powder coatings that don't last from twelve
to noon compared to a decent old burn-in laquer. There doesn't even seem
to be any kind of a primer on the K-7.

Many of my old metal cameras look battered and beaten but there's hardly
any bare metal to be seen, with the obvious exception of some brassing
at the corners. 

Ralf

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RE: Why engineers never score

2009-08-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
because they always forget to take off their LCD calculator watches...

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Re: Dream Cruise blog #3 on Times web site

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Fascinating. I've seen some interesting cars (Lambo, The Prancing
Horse) and some as amazing bikes (Ducatti, etc) here. Made some
photos, though they were not moving...


On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/woodward-dream-cruise-beginnings/


 Thanks for all who've had a look at these.
 Just made it back from my shoot in Ohio. Have to crank out another Times
 blog for tomorrow.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:21 AM, David Manndm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 When OS 10.6 comes out next month sometime, it's 64 bit architecture will
 run on any Intel based Mac going back to 2006. Gonna make Photoshop and
 Lightroom and Aperture scream. Although all Mac Photoshop users will have to
 wait for PS CS5 to get the good 64 bit code.

 Why will being 64-bit make it faster?

 Dave

Because the primary limitation of PS performance right now is memory.
32bit PS with a full 64 bit OS allows 4GB to be dedicated to PS rather
than the roughly 3GB that you can currently max out at with PS on a
10.5 machine. Truly 64 bit PS would allow you to run a 32GB setup with
28-30GB dedicated to PS and absolutely no need to hit swap for most
uses. Windows users are already in that position with Vista x64 and
CS4, but CS5 will be the first Mac version with full 64bit support.

PS getting better multi-core support would reduce the other major
bottleneck. Right now PS doesn't handle more than 2 cores very well.

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
...sad news, but looks like you're not alone, there are lots of reports 
about problems in the hi-end Pentax stuff. I remember this happening 
with the 16~50 2.8 - centering problems during some photozone test.


Any new product is likely to have issues, and any hi-end quality control 
is supposed to keep those first batch issues under the carpet. I do 
remember Paal fuming about his 28~80 2.8 - or was it the 80~200??


Boris, I'd cancel the K-7 order for the moment, to be re-issued in a 
better moment. Those small details are likely to be solved, the big ones 
should be acknowledged as such - so in a few months we should know for 
sure if the K-7 is being plagued by small details or has serious problems.


Good luck - keep us posted pls.

lf

Boris Liberman escreveu:

Hi guys.

After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

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Re: why I am a fossil

2009-08-11 Thread Luiz Felipe
Did that the other way around... angry because I left the tripod home 
and the ISO was only 200... we'll make a different mistake next time, 
Bran... it'll be alright :-)


lf

Bran Everseeking escreveu:

I never, or almost never, remember that i can change the sensitivity of
the sensor when i am shooting.

I was wishing i had the ND filters earlier.  800 iso   sigh

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My Lightroom has Alzheimer's

2009-08-11 Thread Rick Womer

Here in New Hampshire on vacation.  I transferred my photos and catalog from 
the home iMac to my MacBook Pro, both with LR2.2.

Sunday, everything was working fine.  Last evening and this morning, LR keeps 
losing track of folders.  Last night the folder of pics from April vanished 
from the left-hand window, though the folder was still there in the Finder, and 
LR could open April photos if I searched for them by name.  

I tried importing the folder again (Import from Disk), and it said all the 
photos were already there.  Ran Disk Utility, which fixed some errors, but LR 
still misbehaved.

This morning the July folder is gone--same situation.

Any ideas apart from trashing everything and starting all over from the 
external hard disk?

Rick



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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Luiz, it is not clear how wide spread the K-7 will become in Israel.
Presently, no store shows it. I got it on a very special order. It is
therefore possible that if I cancel my order, I will be left without
the camera. I am thinking that I might want to take the risk and if
indeed it proves awkward (to put it mildly) I will probably go and
switch systems all together.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Luiz Felipeluiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
 ...sad news, but looks like you're not alone, there are lots of reports
 about problems in the hi-end Pentax stuff. I remember this happening with
 the 16~50 2.8 - centering problems during some photozone test.

 Any new product is likely to have issues, and any hi-end quality control is
 supposed to keep those first batch issues under the carpet. I do remember
 Paal fuming about his 28~80 2.8 - or was it the 80~200??

 Boris, I'd cancel the K-7 order for the moment, to be re-issued in a better
 moment. Those small details are likely to be solved, the big ones should be
 acknowledged as such - so in a few months we should know for sure if the K-7
 is being plagued by small details or has serious problems.

 Good luck - keep us posted pls.

 lf

 Boris Liberman escreveu:

 Hi guys.

 After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
 50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
 Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
 is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
 going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
 is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

 *sigh*


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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Sasha Sobol
Lol, everything I write is imho, imo or imnsho :)

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 I should say that second is the key word IMHO in your message, Sasha.

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Old Pentax lenses are of exceptional build quality.
 New ones are also great (next thing I will buy will be 50-250mm, not
 sure when though), but there are some bad samples.
 It happens embarrassingly often.
 Same with bodies: my second copy of K7 works flawlessly so far...

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Nope, I meant to say that in my humble opinion second (copy of K7)
is the keyword here as it indicates the problem we're having.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Lol, everything I write is imho, imo or imnsho :)

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 I should say that second is the key word IMHO in your message, Sasha.

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Old Pentax lenses are of exceptional build quality.
 New ones are also great (next thing I will buy will be 50-250mm, not
 sure when though), but there are some bad samples.
 It happens embarrassingly often.
 Same with bodies: my second copy of K7 works flawlessly so far...

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Sasha Sobol
Sorry, I am still sleepy.
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On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nope, I meant to say that in my humble opinion second (copy of K7)
 is the keyword here as it indicates the problem we're having.

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Lol, everything I write is imho, imo or imnsho :)

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 I should say that second is the key word IMHO in your message, Sasha.

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Old Pentax lenses are of exceptional build quality.
 New ones are also great (next thing I will buy will be 50-250mm, not
 sure when though), but there are some bad samples.
 It happens embarrassingly often.
 Same with bodies: my second copy of K7 works flawlessly so far...

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Re: My Lightroom has Alzheimer's

2009-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LR 2.2 is known to have some memory and other issues. Update to LR 2.4
and try again.

Godfrey

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Here in New Hampshire on vacation.  I transferred my photos and catalog from 
 the home iMac to my MacBook Pro, both with LR2.2.

 Sunday, everything was working fine.  Last evening and this morning, LR keeps 
 losing track of folders.  Last night the folder of pics from April vanished 
 from the left-hand window, though the folder was still there in the Finder, 
 and LR could open April photos if I searched for them by name.

 I tried importing the folder again (Import from Disk), and it said all the 
 photos were already there.  Ran Disk Utility, which fixed some errors, but LR 
 still misbehaved.

 This morning the July folder is gone--same situation.

 Any ideas apart from trashing everything and starting all over from the 
 external hard disk?

 Rick



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RE: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Coffee, need coffee . . .

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Sasha 
Sobol
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

Sorry, I am still sleepy.
--S

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nope, I meant to say that in my humble opinion second (copy of K7)
 is the keyword here as it indicates the problem we're having.

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Lol, everything I write is imho, imo or imnsho :)

 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 I should say that second is the key word IMHO in your message, Sasha.

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 Old Pentax lenses are of exceptional build quality.
 New ones are also great (next thing I will buy will be 50-250mm, not
 sure when though), but there are some bad samples.
 It happens embarrassingly often.
 Same with bodies: my second copy of K7 works flawlessly so far...

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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:10 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com wrote:
 1.  Keeble  Shuchat, a big pro camera shop in San Jose was now stocking the
 K-7 and new lenses (a former coworker of mine who works there now had told
 me last winter they were dropping Pentax, so this is a nice about-face), and
 supposedly other camera shops are doing the same.  I suppose your local
 mileage may vary, but this can only be a good sign in general.

Heya John,

Keeble is in Palo Alto, not San Jose. ;-)

Who's your coworker friend working there? I know most of the
personnel, at least by sight.
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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-11 Thread ann sanfedele
I made the color one disappear (see note below)  didn't want to have 
duplicate images in a public gallery .


thanks, marnie
ann

eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:04:47 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:

Christine, Paul, Doug  -

I was leaning toward the bw strongly, but sometimes I don't trust  myself 
:-)


thanks all!

Now I'm gonna mess with folk and take the  color one out lol

ann

Doug Brewer wrote:

 


ann sanfedele  wrote:

   

poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago... I  _think_ I prefer 
the  BW.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium
 



=
Oh,  good to read that, because I couldn't even find a color version.

Like  bridge, like gallery (although I've seen a lot of them before). 
Actually, GREAT  gallery. 

And, yeah, on second look it does seem to be Madonna as  Marilyn. But that 
doesn't mean we are wrong when we say we like the two Marilyns  (because, 
after all, she was channeling Marilyn).


Heh.

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-11 Thread ann sanfedele

Thanks, Boris -- I was sorry too that you didn't get here

ann

Boris Liberman wrote:


It makes me somewhat sad that I couldn' t make it to The Big Apple
this time... Wonderful gallery, Ann!

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:56 AM, ann sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 


poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago...
I _think_ I prefer the  BW.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread Desjardins, Steve
I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly cheap.  I've 
read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.  The interesting part 
is that many of the negatives have the flavor of just didn't warm up to it.  
Opinions?

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Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks

2009-08-11 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: Re: Geso: Some Old Trucks




love these
I think the center one of the green series is best  - for my eye ...

you also have good taste in fonts :-)



Thanks Ann.
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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread Graydon
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:30:59AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
 David Mann wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 When OS 10.6 comes out next month sometime, it's 64 bit architecture
 will run on any Intel based Mac going back to 2006. Gonna make
 Photoshop and Lightroom and Aperture scream. Although all Mac
 Photoshop users will have to wait for PS CS5 to get the good 64 bit
 code.

 Why will being 64-bit make it faster?

 That's a good question, as it all things being equal it usually
 doesn't.

64 bit should give you speed improvements if:
- you're doing lots of (the right sort of) gnarly floating point math
- have a large address space on-disk or in memory
- snuck in proper concurrency handling while you were producing the
  64 bit version of the OS

The obvious advantage for image manipulation is getting more than
3.whatever GB of RAM (the 32 bit direct addressing limit) into one
address space.  Ideally, everything about the image you're working on
goes into RAM and stays there until you hit save, and that's easier the
more RAM you've got, and 64 bit means you can have a lot more RAM.

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Re: Pentax FA 80-320 vs Sigma 70-300mm 4.0-5.6

2009-08-11 Thread David Bliss
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Tony Cogan tonyco...@cox.net wrote:

 Now I need to replace it - for less money than I would prefer to spend.  How
 do you people think it compares with the Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6?  Is there a
 different lens to consider in the under-$250 price range?

Tony,

I've been very happy with the optical performance of my FA 80-320:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9100...@n06/606764596/in/set-72157600457052308/

but I find it very slow and uncertain to focus, which makes it very hard to
use for things like airplane shots, one of my main uses (if it loses focus
lock, like because you tracked to an empty piece of sky, it is likely to
seek through its entire range of focus several times, veeeyyy slooowwly,
before re-locking).

But it's a really, really cheap lens and certainly worth what I paid for it.

I have no experience with the Sigma though.

HTH,
david


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Re: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread Mat Maessen
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Desjardins, Stevedesjard...@wlu.edu wrote:
 I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly cheap.  
 I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.  The interesting 
 part is that many of the negatives have the flavor of just didn't warm up to 
 it.  Opinions?

the only complaint I have with mine is that it's not any faster. That
can only be fixed by throwing money at the problem. :-)

Excellent reasonably small lens. I also have one of the older K-mount
Takumar 28/2.8 lenses, and the only difference is the lens coatings
and the lack of the A contacts on the mount.

-Mat

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Re: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Steve,
I think the A28/2.8 is better than the M28/2.8, an old dog.  Build is
a problem so get one that's lightly used.  The metal leaf springs
under the plastic aperture ring have a habit of coming off.  The first
thing I did when mine arrived by mail was try changing apertures.
Things seemed a bit rough then jammed completely.  I could no longer
reach A, or above f8 or so.  I dis-assembled and re-glued the leaf
spring in place.  I believe there are two and the A button pushes
themdown so it can engage.  Simple but irritating fix...don't lose the
little ball bearing for the f-stop dents either.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly cheap.  
 I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.  The interesting 
 part is that many of the negatives have the flavor of just didn't warm up to 
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RE: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
The K28/3.5 is better than the A28/2.8,
get one of those if you can find one.
That one and the K35/3.5 are both stunners.
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I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly
cheap.  I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.
The interesting part is that many of the negatives have the flavor of
just didn't warm up to it.  Opinions?

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Re: My Lightroom has Alzheimer's

2009-08-11 Thread Rick Womer

I just did.  Repaired permissions.  No use.

Another strange thing:  I clicked on the February folder in the Folders window, 
and the thumbnails came up. Clicked on the ? mark on one of the photos, located 
it on the hard disk, and LR whirred along updating the links to nearby photos.  
Then the February folder and all its photos vanished from the Folders window, 
though they still exist in the Finder.

Argh.

Rick

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 LR 2.2 is known to have some memory
 and other issues. Update to LR 2.4
 and try again.
 
 Godfrey
 
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Here in New Hampshire on vacation.  I transferred my
 photos and catalog from the home iMac to my MacBook Pro,
 both with LR2.2.
 
  Sunday, everything was working fine.  Last evening
 and this morning, LR keeps losing track of folders.  Last
 night the folder of pics from April vanished from the
 left-hand window, though the folder was still there in the
 Finder, and LR could open April photos if I searched for
 them by name.
 
  I tried importing the folder again (Import from Disk),
 and it said all the photos were already there.  Ran Disk
 Utility, which fixed some errors, but LR still misbehaved.
 
  This morning the July folder is gone--same situation.
 
  Any ideas apart from trashing everything and starting
 all over from the external hard disk?
 
  Rick
 
 
 
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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Franklin

Bob W wrote:


 When you get off the road and out into the countryside following a map is a
 lot more difficult. The main difficulty is figuring out where you are if you
 do go astray.


That's when it's helpful to be able to visualize the terrain features 
depicted on the map and match them up with the terrain features around 
you.  I don't think it's something that can easily be taught, other than 
by taking someone to a spot, handing them a good topo map of the area, 
and pointing out the real terrain on the one hand and the map's 
depiction of that same terrain on the other.  At the end, it seems like 
the map reader largely has to figure out how to do it on their own, and 
some folks just don't seem to think visually.


Not EASILY taught, but it can be taught. I did it for years. (and if I 
can do it, anybody should be able do it, blah blah blah )


In the Army, it was a skill required for promotion. Some people learn it 
just well enough to get through the test and then promptly forget it.


http://www.survivaliq.com/navigation/elevation-and-relief_par6.htm

There's tricks to figuring out where you are when you go astray.

But first, use techniques to keep you from going astray - deliberately 
build in a slight bias to one side or the other in your course toward 
your objective.


Suppose you have to go through the woods and come out to a road where 
there's a store where your friends are supposed to be waiting with the 
beer. And for whatever reason, you don't want to follow the existing 
trails that lead directly to it. You want to do it the HARD WAY.


(Murphy's law of combat #5 - the easy way is always mined)

Deliberately set your course to come out off to one side at the road. 
Then you'll know which way to turn when you reach the road.


In North America and Europe, any flowing water points towards human 
habitation (eventually). You follow any stream and you come to a road 
crossing it.


If you have an old fashion analog watch, point the hour hand toward the 
sun; halfway between the hour hand and 12 points SOUTH - down under it 
points NORTH.


If you have to move at night, you should know how to find  use the big 
dipper and/or the southern cross to find north  south.


Put a stick in the ground. Put a rock on tip of the shadow. Find a bit 
of shade and rest a while. Drink a little water. Now put another rock on 
the tip of the shadow. The first rock is west, the second rock is east.


MARK YOUR TRAIL so that anyone who's looking for you can follow which 
way you went.


But, if you are truly LOST, the best thing you can do is STOP MOVING; 
stay where you are, make yourself some kind of shelter and wait for 
someone who knows where they are to find you. You're easier to find if 
you're not wandering around. It helps to make some noise occasionally.


Every one of those little kid lost in the woods tales that has a happy 
ending goes I couldn't see him, but I heard a noise ... and there he was.


I carry a loud ball-whistle. Nothing on earth makes that noise naturally.

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-11 Thread Jack Davis
You should trust yourself as, obviously, your opinion is the only one that 
truly counts. Your considering the opinion of others others is, however, seen 
as a compliment to us. :)

Jack

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: Peso:  Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:52 AM
 I made the color one disappear
 (see note below)  didn't want to have 
 duplicate images in a public gallery .
 
 thanks, marnie
 ann
 
 eactiv...@aol.com
 wrote:
 
 In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:04:47 P.M.  Pacific
 Daylight Time, 
 ann...@nyc.rr.com
 writes:
 Christine, Paul, Doug  -
 
 I was leaning toward the bw strongly, but sometimes I
 don't trust  myself 
 :-)
 
 thanks all!
 
 Now I'm gonna mess with folk and take the  color
 one out lol
 
 ann
 
 Doug Brewer wrote:
 
   
 
 ann sanfedele  wrote:
 
     
 
 poking around in stuff I took a year or so
 ago... I  _think_ I prefer 
 the  BW.
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium
       
 
 
 =
 Oh,  good to read that, because I couldn't even
 find a color version.
 
 Like  bridge, like gallery (although I've seen a
 lot of them before). 
 Actually, GREAT  gallery. 
 
 And, yeah, on second look it does seem to be Madonna
 as  Marilyn. But that 
 doesn't mean we are wrong when we say we like the two
 Marilyns  (because, 
 after all, she was channeling Marilyn).
 
 Heh.
 
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Re: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread Charles Robinson

On Aug 11, 2009, at 10:04, Desjardins, Steve wrote:

I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly  
cheap.  I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others  
don't.  The interesting part is that many of the negatives have the  
flavor of just didn't warm up to it.  Opinions?




I really really like mine - it lets me turn the K10D into a reasonably- 
sized snapshot/bar camera.  Lock it to f5.6, put the flash up, and  
you get sharp sharp SHARP photos with a reasonably-wide angle in a  
moderately-sized package.


Frankly, that's about the only thing I use it for - but it's great for  
that.


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Re: My Lightroom has Alzheimer's

2009-08-11 Thread Graydon
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:22:09AM -0700, Rick Womer scripsit:
 Another strange thing:  I clicked on the February folder in the
 Folders window, and the thumbnails came up. Clicked on the ? mark on
 one of the photos, located it on the hard disk, and LR whirred along
 updating the links to nearby photos.  Then the February folder and all
 its photos vanished from the Folders window, though they still exist
 in the Finder.

This sounds disturbingly like the bits of the hard drive with the inode
tables on them are dying out from under you.

(Lightroom and the Finder have a different cache, so aren't going to be
coherent with each other in terms of what they think is on the disk.)

No idea how you tell on a Mac if you have real hard drive issues or not,
but I'd suggest you make backups and check.

-- Graydon

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread Graydon
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:22:25AM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit:
 In North America and Europe, any flowing water points towards human  
 habitation (eventually). You follow any stream and you come to a road  
 crossing it.

Almost.

There are some surprisingly large parts of Canada where the flowing
water takes you to the shore of Hudson's Bay and the company of hungry
polar bears, rather than human habitation.  There are some other rather
large parts where it takes you to a muskeg swamp, and the company of
hungry biting insects.

I was always having to fish mother's little darlings, sent out in pairs
on map using exercises, out of swamp; people unconsciously walk down
hill if they can't see a distant objective.  This lands you in the
swamp.

[snip]
 I carry a loud ball-whistle. Nothing on earth makes that noise naturally.

Amen!

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu wrote:

 Coffee, need coffee . . .

Nurse! Two cubic inches Lavazza Red, intravenous! Quick!

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Re: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu wrote:

 I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly cheap.

While not exactly the best from Pentax, it's a decent performer.
Compact, light-weight, and reasonably sharp. 

Just wish mine wouldn't focus beyond infinity. Does anyone know how this
can be corrected?

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Dayton

Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:49:18 PM, you wrote:

DF Bob W wrote:


 When you get off the road and out into the countryside following a map is a
 lot more difficult. The main difficulty is figuring out where you are if you
 do go astray.


DF That's when it's helpful to be able to visualize the terrain features
DF depicted on the map and match them up with the terrain features around
DF you.  I don't think it's something that can easily be taught, other than
DF by taking someone to a spot, handing them a good topo map of the area,
DF and pointing out the real terrain on the one hand and the map's 
DF depiction of that same terrain on the other.  At the end, it seems like

DF the map reader largely has to figure out how to do it on their own, and
DF some folks just don't seem to think visually.

Of course, this 'visualizing' thing doesn't work too well in
Kansas...no terrain features.


Ya got more than you think - creeks and rivers if nothing else ... and 
creeks have gullys  valley's to run down. Valleys mean there's hills 
and ridges for the valleys to be in between.


They may not be readily visible to an untrained eye, but you've got 
terrain features.


And some terrain features are man made, like roads.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:55 AM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 And some terrain features are man made, like roads.

Or large balls of twine:

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/8543

Although I forget the USGS symbol for twine-balls.

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Re: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread Miserere
I've got one, but don't use it that much because I tend to favour my
Vivitar (Komine) 28mm f/2. It's roughly the same size, but an
important stop faster.

Nothing wrong with the Pentax 28, though; typical SMC colours and
sharp wide open (at least for me). I've had no issues with my aperture
ring; it turns just fine, but I leave it at 'A' anyway.

Anybody know what the going prices are these days?


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 I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly cheap.  
 I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.  The interesting 
 part is that many of the negatives have the flavor of just didn't warm up to 
 it.  Opinions?

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Sasha Sobol
I kind of bathed in ginseng oolong instead :)

2009/8/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
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 Nurse! Two cubic inches Lavazza Red, intravenous! Quick!

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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread Michael Beacom


Boris-
Penn Camera is dropping Pentax- I bought a DA 50-200 f4-5.6 there  
last weekend for $150- the salesman said that was less than their price.

BTW- that is where I bought my K100D.
[While I have my hand up, what is the general opinion of the lens?]

Cheers
Mike


On Aug 11, 2009, at 8:03 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


I went to Penn Camera some days ago (sounds odd, doesn't it? ;-) ),
but Pentax was all but non-existent there. Few old manual lenses in
the used gear department, nothing in the new gear department. When
asked whether they had K-7 battery, the clerk indicated that he had no
idea what I was talking about and asked for the part number or some
such...

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:10 PM, John Celion...@neovenator.com  
wrote:
Yesterday at the SF stop of the Pentax K-7 Viral Tour, someone  
asked why it
was so hard to find Pentax equipment in local stores.  One of the  
reps said

they were actively working to correct that, and gave two heartening
examples.

1.  Keeble  Shuchat, a big pro camera shop in San Jose was now  
stocking the
K-7 and new lenses (a former coworker of mine who works there now  
had told
me last winter they were dropping Pentax, so this is a nice about- 
face), and
supposedly other camera shops are doing the same.  I suppose your  
local

mileage may vary, but this can only be a good sign in general.

2.  Fry's Electronics, a (mostly) west coast chain of GIANT  
electronics
stores, is now carrying the K-7 and accessories.  This is awesome  
for a
couple reasons.  First, in a recession, lots of people go to  
places like
Fry's to find deals, so the K-7 will get a little more exposure  
there.
Second, when the day comes that I can afford my own K-7 (I have a  
K-7 poster
on the wall now as motivation), I'll be able to buy it locally.  I  
much

prefer that to ordering from the east coast.

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Re: The K7 roadshow came to town today ...

2009-08-11 Thread Miserere
2009/8/9 Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com:
 Oops, how did I dare to misspell your name?

Indeed, how dare you. You're banned from spelling my name for a week,
and...no soup for you!

:-p


 --M.


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Re: My Lightroom has Alzheimer's

2009-08-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
I have no idea what happened, but if I have read you correctly, then I
know a cure.

My assumption is that you still has the files somewhere, and that LR
still know where they are.
At least this should do the trick in Windows.

Try to import the photos one more time.
When the dialog box telling you the files already are in the Library;
don't click Ok or Cansel, instead click the Show in Libray button.
LR will probabvly display the files now.

If it don't, then you are basically screwed I guess.
But assuming my assumption was correct (that's the nature of an
assumtion, isn''t it?), they will be displayed. Ok then have faith and
move on.

Mark one of the missing files.
Now open to the right hand tab. Look in the Metadata section for
Folder. Right next to the folder name you will find an arrow. Click
it.
Open left hand side tab. There you are, the destination folder is highlighted.

Then use LR to move them to wherever you want them to be, or just
leave them there.

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2009/8/11 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com:

 Here in New Hampshire on vacation.  I transferred my photos and catalog from 
 the home iMac to my MacBook Pro, both with LR2.2.

 Sunday, everything was working fine.  Last evening and this morning, LR keeps 
 losing track of folders.  Last night the folder of pics from April vanished 
 from the left-hand window, though the folder was still there in the Finder, 
 and LR could open April photos if I searched for them by name.

 I tried importing the folder again (Import from Disk), and it said all the 
 photos were already there.  Ran Disk Utility, which fixed some errors, but LR 
 still misbehaved.

 This morning the July folder is gone--same situation.

 Any ideas apart from trashing everything and starting all over from the 
 external hard disk?

 Rick



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Re: Why engineers never score

2009-08-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Dario Bonazza
And the Project Pebble (photo contest winner) has Pentax contents in it. 
Just see:

http://www.projectpebble.co.uk/

Dario

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 Would you like to come upstairs and see my miniaturised silicon ring
 resonator?

 But perhaps they should:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8192569.stm


I remember it being discussed here earlier because they chose Pentax for 
the still camera.


Shame somebody appears to have nicked it.

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RE: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
they used to sell around $125, now more like $80

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I've got one, but don't use it that much because I tend to favour my
Vivitar (Komine) 28mm f/2. It's roughly the same size, but an important
stop faster.

Nothing wrong with the Pentax 28, though; typical SMC colours and sharp
wide open (at least for me). I've had no issues with my aperture ring;
it turns just fine, but I leave it at 'A' anyway.

Anybody know what the going prices are these days?


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 I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly 
 cheap.  I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.  
 The interesting part is that many of the negatives have the flavor of 
 just didn't warm up to it.  Opinions?

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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Thanks for heads up, Michael

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Michael Beacommbea...@mac.com wrote:

 Boris-
 Penn Camera is dropping Pentax- I bought a DA 50-200 f4-5.6 there last
 weekend for $150- the salesman said that was less than their price.
 BTW- that is where I bought my K100D.
 [While I have my hand up, what is the general opinion of the lens?]

 Cheers
 Mike

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-11 Thread ann sanfedele
I do tend to agonize of decisions in all wakes of life -- less so with 
my photos,actually where I'm much more
into  ya don't like it? tuff, I like it  but a little positive 
reinforcement is sometimes like a nice hug and I need one now and then.  


ann

Jack Davis wrote:


You should trust yourself as, obviously, your opinion is the only one that 
truly counts. Your considering the opinion of others others is, however, seen 
as a compliment to us. :)

Jack

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From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Re: Peso:  Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:52 AM
I made the color one disappear
(see note below)  didn't want to have 
duplicate images in a public gallery .


thanks, marnie
ann

eactiv...@aol.com
wrote:

   


In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:04:47 P.M.  Pacific
 

Daylight Time, 
   


ann...@nyc.rr.com
 


writes:
   


Christine, Paul, Doug  -

I was leaning toward the bw strongly, but sometimes I
 

don't trust  myself 
   


:-)

thanks all!

Now I'm gonna mess with folk and take the  color
 


one out lol
   


ann

Doug Brewer wrote:

 

 


ann sanfedele  wrote:

   

   


poking around in stuff I took a year or so
 

ago... I  _think_ I prefer 
   


the  BW.
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium
 

 


=
Oh,  good to read that, because I couldn't even
 


find a color version.
   


Like  bridge, like gallery (although I've seen a
 

lot of them before). 
   

Actually, GREAT  gallery. 


And, yeah, on second look it does seem to be Madonna
 

as  Marilyn. But that 
   


doesn't mean we are wrong when we say we like the two
 

Marilyns  (because, 
   


after all, she was channeling Marilyn).

Heh.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)

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thinking we used when we 
   

created them. Albert  Einstein  


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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
I am starting to see some benefits of your potential visit to Israel, Sasha :-).

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Sasha Sobolsa...@asobol.com wrote:
 I kind of bathed in ginseng oolong instead :)

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann

On Aug 11, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 When OS 10.6 comes out next month sometime, it's 64 bit architecture  
 will run on any Intel based Mac going back to 2006. Gonna make  
 Photoshop and Lightroom and Aperture scream. Although all Mac  
 Photoshop users will have to wait for PS CS5 to get the good 64 bit  
 code.


Why will being 64-bit make it faster?


Same reason more lanes makes an interstate highway faster than a two 
lane country road.


The software does have to be built to take advantage of the extra lanes 
though - Granny in her 1948 DeSoto ain't gonna go any faster on the 
interstate than she does on the two lane roads.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread Paul Sorenson

John Sessoms wrote:



There's tricks to figuring out where you are when you go astray.

But first, use techniques to keep you from going astray - deliberately 
build in a slight bias to one side or the other in your course toward 
your objective.
Had a flight student in the late 60's that used this technique.  He had 
been Special Forces and served a couple tours in Vietnam.  He always 
planned his cross country flights to pass a couple miles to the right of 
his destination airport.  I never could get him to fly direct to an 
airport, but, then again, he always knew which window to look out to 
find the airport when his ETA came.




If you have an old fashion analog watch, point the hour hand toward 
the sun; halfway between the hour hand and 12 points SOUTH - down 
under it points NORTH.

Gotta remember to compensate, though, if you're on DST.  ;-)


I carry a loud ball-whistle. Nothing on earth makes that noise naturally.


Amen!

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PESO 2009 - 132 - GDG

2009-08-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

soft morning ...

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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread John Sessoms
According to the people I deal with at my local independent camera 
store, Pentax dropped them, not the other way around. Pentax will not 
accept orders from them any longer. They told me Pentax didn't even 
offer them the option of you have to stock X amount if you want to 
remain a dealer; just a don't call us, we ain't gonna be calling you.


So far as I can tell, there are still no local dealers in North 
Carolina. Charlotte, NC is still showing Wolf Camera as a Pentax dealer, 
but other than that it's all Sam's Club and Wal-mart. The local Wolf's 
Camera says they can't order it, and it's not available on-line through 
Wolf/Ritz, although it looks like they still have a stock of K20D, K200 
and K2000.


If I put the Greensboro, NC zip code into the store locater, it gives me 
a map of Sweden right down near Denmark, but no local retailers.


Don't know about Sam's Club, but Wal-mart sure ain't got 'em. Don't even 
have the K2000.


The other day, just out of curiosity, I went into one of the Raleigh, NC 
Wal-marts that Pentax's find a retailer application brings up. The 
salesperson in the camera department had never even heard of Pentax.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:

 I don't think it's something that can easily be taught, other than 
 by taking someone to a spot, handing them a good topo map of the area,
 and pointing out the real terrain on the one hand and the map's 
 depiction of that same terrain on the other.  

Now imagine having that topo map in your hand-held GPS unit. I simply
love it.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:41:14AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
 
 PS getting better multi-core support would reduce the other major
 bottleneck. Right now PS doesn't handle more than 2 cores very well.

Personally I suspect that the real performance gains to come in
PhotoShop aren't going to be from multi-thread operations in the CPU;
they'll come from massively parallel operations running in GPUs with
dedicated fast memory paths.

Today that's only really possible with high-end graphics cards, but
more and more of that functionality is going to migrate down to the
midrange.  It won't be long before any graphics card that you'd even
consider for PhotoShop will have a hundred or more GPU cores.


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RE: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread Desjardins, Steve
KEH and Adorama are more like $149/159.  Are you speaking of ebay?

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they used to sell around $125, now more like $80

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I've got one, but don't use it that much because I tend to favour my
Vivitar (Komine) 28mm f/2. It's roughly the same size, but an important
stop faster.

Nothing wrong with the Pentax 28, though; typical SMC colours and sharp
wide open (at least for me). I've had no issues with my aperture ring;
it turns just fine, but I leave it at 'A' anyway.

Anybody know what the going prices are these days?


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2009/8/11 Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu:
 I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly 
 cheap.  I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.  
 The interesting part is that many of the negatives have the flavor of 
 just didn't warm up to it.  Opinions?

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RE: Used A28 2.8

2009-08-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
ebay

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KEH and Adorama are more like $149/159.  Are you speaking of ebay?

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they used to sell around $125, now more like $80

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I've got one, but don't use it that much because I tend to favour my
Vivitar (Komine) 28mm f/2. It's roughly the same size, but an important
stop faster.

Nothing wrong with the Pentax 28, though; typical SMC colours and sharp
wide open (at least for me). I've had no issues with my aperture ring;
it turns just fine, but I leave it at 'A' anyway.

Anybody know what the going prices are these days?


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2009/8/11 Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu:
 I was thinking of picking up one of these for fun since are fairly
 cheap.  I've read mixed reviews.  Some really like it, others don't.  
 The interesting part is that many of the negatives have the flavor of 
 just didn't warm up to it.  Opinions?

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RE: why I am a fossil

2009-08-11 Thread Desjardins, Steve
I leave the E-P1 on auto iso and I'm astonished how many of my pictures are at 
iso 1600. I'm also fairly surprised how often I have to look at the exif data 
to notice it.

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I never, or almost never, remember that i can change the sensitivity of
the sensor when i am shooting.

I was wishing i had the ND filters earlier.  800 iso   sigh

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-11 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM, John Francisjo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 09:41:14AM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:

 PS getting better multi-core support would reduce the other major
 bottleneck. Right now PS doesn't handle more than 2 cores very well.

 Personally I suspect that the real performance gains to come in
 PhotoShop aren't going to be from multi-thread operations in the CPU;
 they'll come from massively parallel operations running in GPUs with
 dedicated fast memory paths.

 Today that's only really possible with high-end graphics cards, but
 more and more of that functionality is going to migrate down to the
 midrange.  It won't be long before any graphics card that you'd even
 consider for PhotoShop will have a hundred or more GPU cores.


I actually doubt that will happen soon. CPU cores are increasing
faster than GPU cores currently. And current GPU designs are massive,
you really can't do multi-core GPU's unless the entire design paradigm
changes immensely (although current GPU designs do use multiple
execution units)

I expect to see increased reliance on GPU's for certain calculations
(anything 3D, UI acceleration) but better handling of multi-core CPU's
will net a bigger improvement much sooner.



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RE: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-11 Thread Desjardins, Steve
Yeah, but that's like Bill Clinton not inhaling . . .


Subject: Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

I kind of bathed in ginseng oolong instead :)

2009/8/11 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
 Desjardins, Steve desjard...@wlu.edu wrote:

 Coffee, need coffee . . .

 Nurse! Two cubic inches Lavazza Red, intravenous! Quick!

 Ralf

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Re: GESO - Huntington

2009-08-11 Thread Ken Waller

Some of the best knobs I've seen lately   ;+]

Kenneth Waller
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 Original Message - 
From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com

Subject: GESO - Huntington


Family and I drove over to Huntington, WV on Saturday for a day out and 
to eat at Hillbilly Hot Dogs, a sort of trash art dive outside 
Huntington. Here are a few of the photos I made on the trip.


http://www.alphoto.com/images/huntington/index.html

enjoy



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Re: GESO - Huntington

2009-08-11 Thread paul stenquist

Nice work. Some very interesting subjects, well rendered.
Paul
On Aug 11, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Ken Waller wrote:


Some of the best knobs I've seen lately   ;+]

Kenneth Waller
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 Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com
Subject: GESO - Huntington


Family and I drove over to Huntington, WV on Saturday for a day out  
and to eat at Hillbilly Hot Dogs, a sort of trash art dive outside  
Huntington. Here are a few of the photos I made on the trip.

http://www.alphoto.com/images/huntington/index.html
enjoy



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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread Ken Waller

The salesperson in the camera department had never even heard of Pentax


A MARK ! if I ever heard one !

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From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

Subject: Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?


According to the people I deal with at my local independent camera 
store, Pentax dropped them, not the other way around. Pentax will not 
accept orders from them any longer. They told me Pentax didn't even 
offer them the option of you have to stock X amount if you want to 
remain a dealer; just a don't call us, we ain't gonna be calling you.


So far as I can tell, there are still no local dealers in North 
Carolina. Charlotte, NC is still showing Wolf Camera as a Pentax dealer, 
but other than that it's all Sam's Club and Wal-mart. The local Wolf's 
Camera says they can't order it, and it's not available on-line through 
Wolf/Ritz, although it looks like they still have a stock of K20D, K200 
and K2000.


If I put the Greensboro, NC zip code into the store locater, it gives me 
a map of Sweden right down near Denmark, but no local retailers.


Don't know about Sam's Club, but Wal-mart sure ain't got 'em. Don't even 
have the K2000.


The other day, just out of curiosity, I went into one of the Raleigh, NC 
Wal-marts that Pentax's find a retailer application brings up. The 
salesperson in the camera department had never even heard of Pentax.



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RE: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread John Celio
 Keeble is in Palo Alto, not San Jose. ;-)
 
 Who's your coworker friend working there? I know most of the
 personnel, at least by sight.

Yes, I know, but I decided to make it slightly simpler for people who
don't know all the towns in Silicon Valley.

Jonathan Parnell is my old coworker.  Nice guy, and a good photographer
too.

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Re: My Lightroom has Alzheimer's

2009-08-11 Thread Igor Roshchin

Rick,

I would fear that what Graydon said is the case...
I've guessed it while reading your first message, but many other
possibilities existed. But when you said you updated to LR-2.4
and described that things continue disappearing, I would
say you might be having some problems with the HDD.

Check the system logs for possible HDD-related errors:
/var/log/system.log

Igor

Tue Aug 11 10:30:24 CDT 2009
Graydon wrote:

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:22:09AM -0700, Rick Womer scripsit:
 Another strange thing:  I clicked on the February folder in the
 Folders window, and the thumbnails came up. Clicked on the ? mark on
 one of the photos, located it on the hard disk, and LR whirred along
 updating the links to nearby photos.  Then the February folder and all
 its photos vanished from the Folders window, though they still exist
 in the Finder.

This sounds disturbingly like the bits of the hard drive with the inode
tables on them are dying out from under you.

(Lightroom and the Finder have a different cache, so aren't going to be
coherent with each other in terms of what they think is on the disk.)

No idea how you tell on a Mac if you have real hard drive issues or not,
but I'd suggest you make backups and check.

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OT: Silver linings

2009-08-11 Thread John Sessoms
Just an update on the unemployment situation. My final pay from Target 
will be enough to get me through until I start receiving my retired pay 
from the Army in September.


I've been down to the VA and so far it appears I'll be eligible for the 
new GI Bill education benefits even while drawing my retired pay, so I 
think I'm finally going to get to finish my photography degree.


It also appears I'll be eligible to re-join Tri-Care as my health 
insurance provider.


I've been working on my budget and I don't see any constraints. My 
retired pay is slightly more than I was earning at Target.


I'm still looking for work to fill in the time between now and when I 
can resume my course work.


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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-11 Thread Igor Roshchin

San Diego's Fry's used to carry D and/or DS, and then they had
some lenses. I remember trying D-FA-100 Macro there, although
it was a bad quality one, so I had to return it, and then later
I bought one from a mail-order place.
I don't know what SD's Fry's has now...

What is interesting that in the past year or so, Walmart sells 
Pentax cameras through their website. The prices have been
competitive with those of BH and BuyDig, but... you pay the sales tax.
K7 is available, and K20D is out of stock just recently.


Igor


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Re: The pressure is on (lens/camera advice?)

2009-08-11 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jul 8, 2009, at 17:57, Joseph McAllister wrote:


And so that it doesn't show so much in the final image, I'd use  
yellow tape on front and sides between stakes for the set up, and  
have a helper remove the string before you shoot, but after, of  
course, everyone is in place.


Don't forget (borrow or rent) that megaphone for barking direction!



We (me and my brother) were about 40 feet up.  Wow.  That's a lot of  
height when you're in a tiny bucket at the end of a long arm extended  
from a truckbed.


Didn't get the lines quite straight, but did manage to fit everyone in  
with the zoom set to approx 24mm.  Sadly, I was attempting to block  
them out for an 8x10 (approx 3:4) print, didn't notice until later  
that the print being sold to everyone is 8x12 (which is a precise 2:3  
ratio, darn it!).  I learned a lot and will do much better next year.


The megaphone was worked by my brother.  The shot on Saturday in the  
rainstorm was immensely entertaining - to see approximately 600 people  
(maybe more!) drop their umbrellas on queue so that they wouldn't  
block the shot was a sight to behold.  And the K10 with 16-50 was  
exactly up to the job.  I only wished I could use the camera to  
photograph itself all covered with rain.


When I've got the final image all polished up I will share my results  
with the group.


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RE: Silver linings

2009-08-11 Thread Bob W
Excellent news! Glad things are going to work out.

Bob 

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 Behalf Of John Sessoms
 Sent: 11 August 2009 21:27
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: Silver linings
 
 Just an update on the unemployment situation. My final pay 
 from Target will be enough to get me through until I start 
 receiving my retired pay from the Army in September.
 
 I've been down to the VA and so far it appears I'll be 
 eligible for the new GI Bill education benefits even while 
 drawing my retired pay, so I think I'm finally going to get 
 to finish my photography degree.
 
 It also appears I'll be eligible to re-join Tri-Care as my 
 health insurance provider.
 
 I've been working on my budget and I don't see any 
 constraints. My retired pay is slightly more than I was 
 earning at Target.
 
 I'm still looking for work to fill in the time between now 
 and when I can resume my course work.
 
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Re: OT: Silver linings

2009-08-11 Thread Cory Waters
That sounds like pretty good news John. I got the impression you didn't 
really like working at Target that much anyway.  This way you get to go 
to school and be smarter than all of us (except Mark, he's a teacher... 
and probably Nico because he doesn't post)


CW

John Sessoms wrote:
Just an update on the unemployment situation. My final pay from Target 
will be enough to get me through until I start receiving my retired 
pay from the Army in September.


I've been down to the VA and so far it appears I'll be eligible for 
the new GI Bill education benefits even while drawing my retired pay, 
so I think I'm finally going to get to finish my photography degree.


It also appears I'll be eligible to re-join Tri-Care as my health 
insurance provider.


I've been working on my budget and I don't see any constraints. My 
retired pay is slightly more than I was earning at Target.


I'm still looking for work to fill in the time between now and when I 
can resume my course work.


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Re: OT: Silver linings

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:26 PM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 ...
 I've been working on my budget and I don't see any constraints. My retired
 pay is slightly more than I was earning at Target.

 I'm still looking for work to fill in the time between now and when I can
 resume my course work.

Great news indeed!


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A question of curiosity

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Have anyone of you taken their K10D, K20D or even K-7 up on the plane
and have anyone of you subjected your gear to g-forces up above?

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GESO: What I did last weekend (twins! twins! twins!)

2009-08-11 Thread Charles Robinson
All flash shots with either the K10D using the A-28mm, or Fuji F30.   
All daytime shots with the K10D and DA*16-50.


Quite a lot of entertainment.  Nothing dramatic but some people really  
enjoy seeing the shots of all of the doubles so I thought I would  
share and you can see some before/after of the crane/group shot  
that I did on Saturday and Sunday afternoons.  I can't post the  
final images online yet as the people who run the festival want to  
be able to sell orders of prints of that shot.


http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/twinsdays/

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Re: GESO: What I did last weekend (twins! twins! twins!)

2009-08-11 Thread Boris Liberman
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com wrote:
 All flash shots with either the K10D using the A-28mm, or Fuji F30.  All
 daytime shots with the K10D and DA*16-50.

 Quite a lot of entertainment.  Nothing dramatic but some people really enjoy
 seeing the shots of all of the doubles so I thought I would share and
 you can see some before/after of the crane/group shot that I did on
 Saturday and Sunday afternoons.  I can't post the final images online yet
 as the people who run the festival want to be able to sell orders of prints
 of that shot.

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2009/twinsdays/

  -Charles

Great photos, Charles. I couldn't stop thinking that I am being
tricked here somehow. :-)


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Boris

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