Re: PDML Annual ordering

[Brian Walters]

I think these are the links:

Standard Version:
http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/573542


Premium Paper version:
http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/575601


Cheers

Brian

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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:07 +1030, "Peter Loveday" 
wrote:
> Anyone know how I choose the paper type I want for a PDML Annual order? 
> I 
> seem to recall selecting premium paper in the past was a separate book or 
> somesuch, but I can't find any option for it.
> 
> Thanks,
> - Peter
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PDML Annual ordering

[Peter Loveday]

Anyone know how I choose the paper type I want for a PDML Annual order?  I 
seem to recall selecting premium paper in the past was a separate book or 
somesuch, but I can't find any option for it.


Thanks,
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Re: PESOs - Basel

[Jim King]

Rick Womer wrote on Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:52:37 -0800


Zipping across the Atlantic and back six months or so...

(I have =lots= of photos to sort!)

Two from an April day in Basel:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10204517

and

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10204552&size=lg


Sorry for the late reply; I just saw your post.

I really enjoyed your entire album of Basel photos.  Years ago I used  
to visit Ciba's R&D facility in Klein-Basel, and we often went on  
walking tours of the old city center at the end of the day.  Your  
images included many familiar scenes and brought back pleasant  
memories.  Now I'm inspired to dig through my old slide cassettes to  
find my own Basel photos.


Thanks for posting!

Regards, Jim


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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[Boris Liberman]

I second that. Well, I mean the first part... :-)

Cheers to you, Doug!

Boris

frank theriault wrote:

Many happy returns, Doug.

Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken Rockwell Fund

cheers,
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Re: PESO - The Birds and I

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks for posting, Brian.  I love when you post these shots.  The 
sculptures are excellent, as are your photographs of them.  Really enjoy 
seeing them.  I loved the eyes!  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO - The Birds and I



G'day all

Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great walk -
interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of the Wonderful, the
Woeful and the Weird.

Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html


If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the sculptures on
display this year:

http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html


The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked boy.  The
local council demanded that his modesty be restored with a pair of
swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled and removed the shorts
early on the opening day of the exhibition.  Details here:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses-his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  Happy Birthday, Doug.  I have a really good friend connected with La 
Fromagerie in London, who is also connected to those associated with upper 
cheese classes in France, and they have agreed to name a new crop of 
cheese--Fromage du Brewer; it's a soft, bloomy, rind cheese that goes down 
well with a cracker and wine.  The cheese is native to the region of 
Aquitaine.  So big congrats, and a big happy birthday to you!  ;-)  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: Happy Birthday Listmeister!



Many happy returns, Doug.

Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken Rockwell 
Fund


cheers,
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Re: PESO - Last Cigarette?

[Jack Davis]

Guess I must agree with Marnie, Frank. As she said, could be easily cloned out. 

Jack

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, frank theriault  wrote:

> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: PESO - Last Cigarette?
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 5:28 PM
> Not as in "last before quitting",
> rather, "last before he collects
> enough change for the next pack":
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/last-cigarette.html
> 
> Question:  Does my shadow ruin it?
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: PESO: Battery Point Light

[Jack Davis]

My sincere thanks, Larry! Appreciate the comment.

Jack

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, Larry Colen  wrote:

> From: Larry Colen 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Battery Point Light
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 7:16 PM
> 
> 
> frank theriault wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> >> Wife and I took another weekend excursion. This
> time to the north coast (CA) and spent yesterday in and
> around Crescent City.
> >> Late afternoon on a windy extremely chilly day I
> took another shot at Battery Light. The DA 55~300 is a very
> light non-internal focusing lens. When racked out to 300mm
> you can't breath near it when shooting. A peek through the
> viewfinder showed it to be vibrating continually, but took
> 11 shots (cable switch/2 sec delay) hoping for a moment's
> quiet. The link is to the only shot that appears to have
> been nearly vibration free. I was stubborn enough to not
> want to go larger than f/6.7 (wanted some foreground rock
> detail) nor higher than 200 ISO.
> >> This taken just as the sun was sinking into the
> Pacific through a thin blushing persimmon tinted
> atmosphere.
> >>
> >> All comments welcome.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> K20, DA 55~300, f/6.7, ISO 200, Bogen 3021 T'pod,
> Pro ball head, full frame (no cropping)
> >>
> >> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=450
> > 
> > Late in commenting, but I'm glad I looked.
> 
> I missed it in the excitement of moving my mail server.
> 
> > 
> > Spectacular photograph.  Gorgeous composition,
> and that light is
> > sublime.  Someone else said it might be the best
> photo you've shown
> > here, and I can't disagree with that.
> 
> I agree, it's superb.
> 
> > 
> > Thanks so much for posting.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > frank
> > 
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Re: PESO: Battery Point Light

[Jack Davis]

Extremely generous words, Frank. I was rewarded the lighting by waiting for 
sunset, especially in such a bitter cold wind. Happy I went equipped for 
whatever conditions.
It's now a print which will soon be framed and hung.

Jack

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, frank theriault  wrote:

> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Battery Point Light
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:48 PM
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jack
> Davis 
> wrote:
> > Wife and I took another weekend excursion. This time
> to the north coast (CA) and spent yesterday in and around
> Crescent City.
> > Late afternoon on a windy extremely chilly day I took
> another shot at Battery Light. The DA 55~300 is a very light
> non-internal focusing lens. When racked out to 300mm you
> can't breath near it when shooting. A peek through the
> viewfinder showed it to be vibrating continually, but took
> 11 shots (cable switch/2 sec delay) hoping for a moment's
> quiet. The link is to the only shot that appears to have
> been nearly vibration free. I was stubborn enough to not
> want to go larger than f/6.7 (wanted some foreground rock
> detail) nor higher than 200 ISO.
> > This taken just as the sun was sinking into the
> Pacific through a thin blushing persimmon tinted
> atmosphere.
> >
> > All comments welcome.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > K20, DA 55~300, f/6.7, ISO 200, Bogen 3021 T'pod, Pro
> ball head, full frame (no cropping)
> >
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=450
> 
> Late in commenting, but I'm glad I looked.
> 
> Spectacular photograph.  Gorgeous composition, and
> that light is
> sublime.  Someone else said it might be the best photo
> you've shown
> here, and I can't disagree with that.
> 
> Thanks so much for posting.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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> Cartier-Bresson
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Re: Peso: orange and yellow flower.

[Larry Colen]

frank theriault wrote:

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Sandra Hermann  wrote:

The world around me seems to be rather dreary so I thought maybe I could cheer 
it up a bit.   :)
http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/orange-and-yellow-flower.html
I think this picture may be sharp in all the wrong places.  I'm posting it to 
see if you agree with me.  I think the middle part of the flower should have 
been sharper, although I like the yellow part the best.


Maybe it's my (admittedly uncalibrated) screen, but it seems a bit
dark to me.  Other than that easily fixable (and possibly not relevent
to others with calibrated screens) nit, it's a lovely photo of a
beautiful flower.


I think that it's just a tad bit dark, but it is lovely.

I'd be tempted to crop the petals on the right to match the petals on 
the bottom, moving the center of the flower out of the center of the photo.




cheers,
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Re: PESO: Battery Point Light

[Larry Colen]

frank theriault wrote:

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

Wife and I took another weekend excursion. This time to the north coast (CA) 
and spent yesterday in and around Crescent City.
Late afternoon on a windy extremely chilly day I took another shot at Battery 
Light. The DA 55~300 is a very light non-internal focusing lens. When racked 
out to 300mm you can't breath near it when shooting. A peek through the 
viewfinder showed it to be vibrating continually, but took 11 shots (cable 
switch/2 sec delay) hoping for a moment's quiet. The link is to the only shot 
that appears to have been nearly vibration free. I was stubborn enough to not 
want to go larger than f/6.7 (wanted some foreground rock detail) nor higher 
than 200 ISO.
This taken just as the sun was sinking into the Pacific through a thin blushing 
persimmon tinted atmosphere.

All comments welcome.

Jack

K20, DA 55~300, f/6.7, ISO 200, Bogen 3021 T'pod, Pro ball head, full frame (no 
cropping)

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=450


Late in commenting, but I'm glad I looked.


I missed it in the excitement of moving my mail server.



Spectacular photograph.  Gorgeous composition, and that light is
sublime.  Someone else said it might be the best photo you've shown
here, and I can't disagree with that.


I agree, it's superb.



Thanks so much for posting.

cheers,
frank



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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[Bob Sullivan]

Doug, hope it was a good day.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Many happy returns, Doug.
>
> Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken Rockwell Fund
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Last Cigarette?

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/20/2009 5:28:41 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Not as in "last  before quitting", rather, "last before he collects
enough change for the next  pack":

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/last-cigarette.html

Question:   Does my shadow ruin it?

Comments always  welcome.

cheers,
frank


I'd like it better  without your shadow. Feel focus should be on him. Easy 
to clone out (when you  have the computer, learn how, etc., etc.)

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: GESO (Re)Cast Iron

[Larry Colen]

frank theriault wrote:

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


I called his bluff, and did a little bit of editing and processing of
a few of them. I think you may be amused by the results:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622720032299/



I wouldn't say I'm amused, I'm more like "impressed".

That's an impressive gallery.  Very well done!


Thank you very much.



Natural lighting, some sort of studio set up, or regular flash?


For the shots in the car, the first 4, I used one of those quartz 
halogen work lights, kind of like this:

http://www.goodmart.com/products/1123185.htm

I may have had some fill from a fluorescent trouble light. Basically the 
light that I was using to work on the car.


The last two were taken by putting the manifold on the sidewalk in the 
shade in my front yard.




cheers,
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Re: GESO (Re)Cast Iron

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> I called his bluff, and did a little bit of editing and processing of
> a few of them. I think you may be amused by the results:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622720032299/


I wouldn't say I'm amused, I'm more like "impressed".

That's an impressive gallery.  Very well done!

Natural lighting, some sort of studio set up, or regular flash?

cheers,
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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[ann sanfedele]

frank theriault wrote:


Many happy returns, Doug.

Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken Rockwell Fund

cheers,
frank
 



Oh blast, Frank, that was gonna be MY present!

H. B. , Doug

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Re: Peso: orange and yellow flower.

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Sandra Hermann  wrote:
> The world around me seems to be rather dreary so I thought maybe I could 
> cheer it up a bit.   :)
> http://samsphotopage.blogspot.com/2009/11/orange-and-yellow-flower.html
> I think this picture may be sharp in all the wrong places.  I'm posting it to 
> see if you agree with me.  I think the middle part of the flower should have 
> been sharper, although I like the yellow part the best.

Maybe it's my (admittedly uncalibrated) screen, but it seems a bit
dark to me.  Other than that easily fixable (and possibly not relevent
to others with calibrated screens) nit, it's a lovely photo of a
beautiful flower.

cheers,
frank

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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[steve harley]

On 2009-11-20 10:59 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:

NO, but I read many music and hi-fi periodicals
and see all the vendors catalogs too, its not a market
of dance tracks or new title SACDs, it a big reissue market of specially
pressed discs, mostly 180gram vinyl.


i think it's probably a split market, you're seeing the audiophile side 
of it and i'm seeing the DJ/pop side


though i can find numbers for overall vinyl sales (increasing rapidly, 
but still a miniscule proportion), and tons of commentary, no one seems 
to have the numbers by type of release or genre; even Nielsen Soundscan 
is going to miss a lot of the dance tracks because it doesn't cover all 
sales; Nielsen, for what it's worth, shows six out of ten top vinyl 
sellers last year were new releases:




but that's not a good way to summarize the market

note that i don't buy any type of newly-issued vinyl -- i only buy old 
scratchy stuff -- more fun and "vinyl charm", less fuss




Regarding "proof" to back up my contentions, where?s
the "proof" for yours concerning nre release SACD or dance tracks
outselling legacy vinyl reissues


i didn't ask for proof, just anything to support what you were stating 
as fact; unlike you, i don't have a contention here -- i stated my 
_impression_; and i haven't said anything about SACD at all in this thread


meanwhile:



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PESO - Last Cigarette?

[frank theriault]

Not as in "last before quitting", rather, "last before he collects
enough change for the next pack":

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/last-cigarette.html

Question:  Does my shadow ruin it?

Comments always welcome.

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GESO (Re)Cast Iron

[Larry Colen]

I tried to send this from thunderbird, but it has my email as
lrc.red4...@ember.purechaos.com.

I'm on a mailing list for old time denizens of alt.peeves. I posted a
peeve about my new POST (POS Toyota) that I picked up for $300, along
with some shots of the cracked exhaust manifold (which is why I got it
so cheaply). Brian commented:

Brian Scearce wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:50:04AM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
>  
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622826051314/
>> 
>
> And by the way, those are excellent pictures.  Just relabel them
> "(Re)Cast Iron: A Transgressive Deconstruction Of Industrial
Artifacts
> >From A Post-Industrial Perspective" and you could get them in a
> gallery, I bet.
>
>
>   

I called his bluff, and did a little bit of editing and processing of
a few of them. I think you may be amused by the results:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622720032299/


By the way, I'm glad I took the shots when I took the car apart, there
were two sets of very similar nuts, same size and thread pitch, but
they went on opposite ends of the manifold, and I didn't notice which
was which when I took it apart. 

-- 
The first step is learning to take great photos, 
the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
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Happy Birthday List Guy!!

[paul stenquist]

Hope you had a great day. Go out and buy yourself a couple of lenses!
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Re: PESO - Room Sourounded by Water

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
> Nothing special really. But I need a bit of relax from all the people
> shot I've made lately.
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/room-sourounded-by-water.html
>
> MaritimTim
>
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/

Interesting shot, Tim.

I like the composition, the way that the leaves seem to only be in the
water that surrounds the middle slab of stone.

I think it would make a really nice print, but honestly, I don't think
it translates well to a small computer screen.  Missing out on too
much detail.  In fact it screams for detail, which is likely there;  I
just can't see it.

cheers,
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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[Mark Roberts]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:38:23 -0500, you wrote:

>From: 
>
>> In a message dated 11/20/2009 2:45:33 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
>> knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
>> Many happy returns,  Doug.
>>
>> Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken  Rockwell 
>> Fund
>>
>>
>> I suppose someone will complain this is a waste of band width. But  I
>> maintain that kissing up to the list guy is never a bad idea.
>
>I didn't realize he was taller than you.. { ; + }

Metaphorically speaking, he's taller than any of us. :)
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Re: PESO: Battery Point Light

[frank theriault]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Wife and I took another weekend excursion. This time to the north coast (CA) 
> and spent yesterday in and around Crescent City.
> Late afternoon on a windy extremely chilly day I took another shot at Battery 
> Light. The DA 55~300 is a very light non-internal focusing lens. When racked 
> out to 300mm you can't breath near it when shooting. A peek through the 
> viewfinder showed it to be vibrating continually, but took 11 shots (cable 
> switch/2 sec delay) hoping for a moment's quiet. The link is to the only shot 
> that appears to have been nearly vibration free. I was stubborn enough to not 
> want to go larger than f/6.7 (wanted some foreground rock detail) nor higher 
> than 200 ISO.
> This taken just as the sun was sinking into the Pacific through a thin 
> blushing persimmon tinted atmosphere.
>
> All comments welcome.
>
> Jack
>
> K20, DA 55~300, f/6.7, ISO 200, Bogen 3021 T'pod, Pro ball head, full frame 
> (no cropping)
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=450

Late in commenting, but I'm glad I looked.

Spectacular photograph.  Gorgeous composition, and that light is
sublime.  Someone else said it might be the best photo you've shown
here, and I can't disagree with that.

Thanks so much for posting.

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Berceuse siderurgique

[frank theriault]

2009/11/18 Ralf R. Radermacher :
> To a dreamy Satie'esque air...:
>
> http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/19282469
>
> The musical title refers to the power lines which look a little like
> staves.
>
> As always, your suggestions... :-)

Those power lines are amazing!

Wonderful photo.

cheers,
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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!



In a message dated 11/20/2009 2:45:33 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Many happy returns,  Doug.

Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken  Rockwell 
Fund


cheers,
frank

==
Happy Bday,  Doug!

I suppose someone will complain this is a waste of band width. But  I
maintain that kissing up to the list guy is never a bad idea.


I didn't realize he was taller than you.. { ; + }

BTW - Happy b-day Doug. We all appreciate the work you do for the list.



Marnie  aka Doe ;-) Actually, sincere birthday wishes.



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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

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In a message dated 11/20/2009 2:45:33 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
Many happy returns,  Doug.

Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken  Rockwell Fund

cheers,
frank

==
Happy Bday,  Doug!

I suppose someone will complain this is a waste of band width. But  I 
maintain that kissing up to the list guy is never a bad idea. 

Marnie  aka Doe ;-) Actually, sincere birthday wishes.  

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Re: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

lol ... I'm not sure that you're supposed to take it seriously, Bob. :-)

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> > 
>>
>> Not entirely sure I understand, Bob, but thanks for commenting.
>>
>
> I'm afraid I can't take seriously "When we are taking a picture, we are
> taking a picture."
>
>
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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[Mark Roberts]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:28:05 -0500, you wrote:

>On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM, frank theriault
> wrote:
>> Many happy returns, Doug.
>>
>> Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken Rockwell Fund
>>
>I made one to Dr Pepper.:-)

I made one to the Comma Conservation Society.

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Re: Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[David J Brooks]

I made one to Dr Pepper.:-)

Have a great day Doug

Dave

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Many happy returns, Doug.
>
> Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken Rockwell Fund
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
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Re: peso tammisaurus

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Things got a bit silly tonight, but I rather like the colors in this
> one:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4116467165/in/set-72157622834615448/

Fun!  Well executed, too.  Looks like your model/subject was enjoying
herself, which is always nice to see.

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Happy Birthday Listmeister!

[frank theriault]

Many happy returns, Doug.

Rather than a gift, I made a donation in your name to the Ken Rockwell Fund

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/20/2009 10:18:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bori...@gmail.com writes:
Marnie, it looks almost staged. Wonderful. You  really nailed the moment.

Boris
==
Thanks, Boris.

Marnie :-)




eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
> A grab  shot. Just for  fun.
> 
>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
> 
>  Comments  welcome.
> 
> Marnie aka Doe  ;-)
>  -
> We can't solve  problems  by using the same kind of thinking we used when 
we 
>  created them. Albert Einstein


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Re: PESO - The Birds and I

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

Subject: PESO - The Birds and I



G'day all

Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great walk -
interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of the Wonderful, the
Woeful and the Weird.

Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html


Well done, I especially like the composition.




If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the sculptures on
display this year:

http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html


Good eye for the compositions.




The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked boy.  The
local council demanded that his modesty be restored with a pair of
swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled and removed the shorts
early on the opening day of the exhibition.  Details here:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses-his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
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RE: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Bob W]

> 
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> > 
> 
> Not entirely sure I understand, Bob, but thanks for commenting.
> 

I'm afraid I can't take seriously "When we are taking a picture, we are
taking a picture."



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Re: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

thanks to ye all.

Charles: yes, everything was as I came across it.

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Re: GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three

[Tim Øsleby]

My guess is that they has absolutely no idea how they looks. Most of
them are far to drunk.

Thank you to everybody who has looked and commented.

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2009/11/20  :
> In a message dated 11/19/2009 4:07:03 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> maritim...@gmail.com writes:
> This blogpost concludes  the  serie
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/fn-fast-furious-hst-kick-off-2009-par
> t.html
>
> The  light guy gave me a tough time in this last set. The colors where
> pointing in  all different directions, so I had to play a lot with them
> to get acceptable  results.
>
> I saw no choice except going for an "artistic" look. If you  can't beat
> the light man, join him ;-)
>
> The first picture is what  really gave me a challenge. I loved the
> pose, but he isn't 100% sharp, and  the background nearly killed the
> shot. I ended up focusing on the guy by  turning down the green in the
> background. So the background is now close to  B&W. I think I also
> desaturated the whole scene a bit, but I'm not sure  about that.
>
> I added some grain artifacts by using aggressive sharpening  in all of
> them. It's rock'n roll dude  ;-)
>
>
> MaritimTim
>
>
> ===
> Nice series. I like the  last shot, the crowd shot, the best. Just because
> it's unusual.
>
> Marnie  aka Doe  :-)  Wonder if they knew how funny they  looked?
>
> -
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> created them. Albert  Einstein
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Re: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> 

Not entirely sure I understand, Bob, but thanks for commenting.

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Re: PESO - The Line Up

[Bob Sullivan]

Good to see some nice work coming from that old Frank too!  Regards, Bob S.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Anthony Farr  wrote:
> 2009/11/20 Anthony Farr :
>> 2009/11/18 Jack Davis :
>>
>> Good to see some nice work coming from the old Leica, Frank.
>>
>> regards, Anthony
>>
>
>
> I just realised that I've offered the classic left-handed compliment
> (no offence to any southpaws out there) closely related to "that's a
> great picture, you must have a very good camera".
>
> Sorry about that, Frank.  Of course I meant to say, "Good to see you
> producing some nice work with the old Leica, Frank".
>
> I'll take more care in future.
>
> regards, Anthony
>
>   "Of what use is lens and light
>    to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Boris Liberman]

Marnie, it looks almost staged. Wonderful. You really nailed the moment.

Boris



eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

A grab shot. Just for  fun.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm

Comments  welcome.

Marnie aka Doe  ;-)
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Re: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 11:25:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
ramar...@mac.com writes:
More blog post, more photographs:

"When we  are taking a picture, we are taking a picture."

http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/walking-zen

comments always  appreciated, thanks for looking.

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==
First shot, too minimalist  for me (I could take that shot, heh).

Second shot, really like. Fun you finding that. Looks like it comes  from a 
workbook, about third grade.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[J.C. O'Connell]

NO, but I read many music and hi-fi periodicals
and see all the vendors catalogs too, its not a market
of dance tracks or new title SACDs, it a big reissue market of specially
pressed discs, mostly 180gram vinyl. DVDa is already
dead, and SACD is nearly dead, vinyl is resurging.
And even when DVDA and SACD where doing better, they
werent selling much new titles, it was mostly reissues
of legacy material with better than CD sound for digital fans.

Regarding "proof" to back up my contentions, where?s
the "proof" for yours concerning nre release SACD or dance tracks
outselling legacy vinyl reissues My burden
of proof is no greater than yours. One of the reasons
the legacy reissues are thriving is many of the
highly desireable older titles are very expensive
on the collector market in higher grade conditions, hence
the reissues for those who don't or cant pay the
big bucks for nice clean originals of the "classics".

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On 2009-11-18 05:22 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> The part about there being more new SACD/DVDA new releases now than 
> more new vinyl **releases** now is incorrect, there is a ton of brand 
> new LP edition issues right now, way more than SACD or DVDA combined. 
> Most of these are high end LP reissues of legacy music, but that's 
> what people want anyway, not new 2009 music recordings.

do you have some industry statistics to back that up? my impression was 
that most new vinyl was new dance tracks


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Re: GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 4:07:03 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
maritim...@gmail.com writes:
This blogpost concludes  the  serie
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/fn-fast-furious-hst-kick-off-2009-par
t.html

The  light guy gave me a tough time in this last set. The colors where
pointing in  all different directions, so I had to play a lot with them
to get acceptable  results.

I saw no choice except going for an "artistic" look. If you  can't beat
the light man, join him ;-)

The first picture is what  really gave me a challenge. I loved the
pose, but he isn't 100% sharp, and  the background nearly killed the
shot. I ended up focusing on the guy by  turning down the green in the
background. So the background is now close to  B&W. I think I also
desaturated the whole scene a bit, but I'm not sure  about that.

I added some grain artifacts by using aggressive sharpening  in all of
them. It's rock'n roll dude  ;-)


MaritimTim


===
Nice series. I like the  last shot, the crowd shot, the best. Just because 
it's unusual.

Marnie  aka Doe  :-)  Wonder if they knew how funny they  looked?

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Re: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Charles Robinson]

On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:25, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> More blog post, more photographs:
> 
> "When we are taking a picture, we are taking a picture."
> 
>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/walking-zen
> 

Was that "things" piece of paper just sitting there?

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Re: PESO - The Birds and I

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 11:12:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
supera1...@fastmail.fm writes:
 
Tempest in a teapot re article.
 
Really like the gallery, Brian. Some talented sculptors there. Good shots  
too, not always easy to take shots showing off art-work well. :-). I really 
like  the things crawling in a circle on the wall, and the shoes 
(sculpture-wise).  Interesting how empty shoes can have such feeling.
 
Fun shot of you reflected.
 
Thanks for sharing.
 
Marnie aka Doe :-)
 
===
G'day all

Went along to Sculpture by the Sea  again this year.  Great walk -
interesting sculptures with the usual  eclectic mix of the Wonderful, the
Woeful and the Weird.

Here's a shot  taken just for the hell of  it

http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html


If  anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the sculptures on
display this  year:

http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html


The  main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked boy.  The
local  council demanded that his modesty be restored with a pair of
swimming shorts,  however the artist rebelled and removed the shorts
early on the opening day  of the exhibition.  Details  here:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses-his-swimmers-
as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v

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Re: Adobe software status

[Luiz Felipe]

Larry, I'd favor the plain Photoshop CS4 for linux - AKA Photoshop CS4 
for Windows, installed by means of a special environ called Wine, under 
Linux. If need be, I'll keep using Windows a little longer.


Photoshop CS4 win32, for me. If available, of course. I can continue 
using CS2 with little or no problem.


Did I thank you lately??? TKS!!! :-)

lf

Larry Colen escreveu:

Folks,

Sorry about the delays, hiccups etc.  I just heard back from Michael
today. It seems like there are two PS and two LR, and several of other
Adobe products. I'm not entirely sure of all of the details of which
is what. The adobe products are listed here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 04:40:52PM -0800, Michael wrote:

hi Larry.  sorry, i've been busy and lost track of this.

i'm all used up on all my flavors of Creative Suite (Design Premium, Production
Premium, Web Premium, Master Collection).  i have two Lightrooms left.  none
of the CS "standard" editions are available to me (only Premium).

i have 3 copies of Illustrator, 2 of Photoshop, 2 of Premiere, 3 of Acrobat,
3 of Dreamweaver, 4 of Flash, 4 of Flex Builder, 4 of Indesign, and 5 of most
other individual titles (not suites) still available for order.

let me know what, if anything, you want me to put in before the end of november.
on dec 1st, when my quantities reset, my buying mode goes back to "only for
friends and family and only one each" so that everybody can have a chance.  :)

-mike


I'm not quite sure about the difference between photoshop and a
creative suite. I've ordered the requests chronologically, so it looks
like:

01  PS Adam Montoya  Adam Montoya photoshop windows (LR as 
backup)
02  PS Godfrey DiGiorgi  Photoshop CS4 Mac
03 Stan Halpin  Photoshop license (Mac)
04 Gonz  cs4 which platform?
05 Luiz Felipe  photoshop windows
06  LR Rob Studdert  one copy of LR and one of PS 
Windows
07 Mark Roberts   Photoshop CS4 Windows 64bit
08 steve harley  Photoshop CS4 wants "Creative Suite 4 
Design Standard" if available Mac
09  LR paul stenquist  Lightroom 2  Mac
10 Joseph Tainter  CS4 Windows
11 Lou Billing  LR2  windows xp
12 Ken Waller   Photoshop CS4 for windows.
13 Cymen Vig  Cymen Vig  LR2 and Photoshop Mac
14 Marnie  CS4 windows xp





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Re: one more update

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 9:42:01 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
Lightroom is a program  to fix something I ain't got broke.


I used to have that  attitude, but now I've grown to like Lightroom. 

Not in love with it, but  I find it the best way to "preview" my raw 
photos. I also made it ape the  organization I have on HD, and have used it to 
improve the organization I have  on HD (one can move pictures and directories 
from within LR). I like knowing  exactly where my pictures are (without 
aliases).

Collections I mainly use  to do web pages. But I am not a "professional" 
photographer with tons and tons  and tons of shots.

I'm also learning how to use grid view and compare  view to pick my best 
shot out of similar shots, as well.

You can get up  and running in LR very quickly, but that doesn't mean it 
doesn't have some nice  features that take time to learn, just like with any 
photo editing/organizing  software.

One can live without LR, I still use Elements for most of my  editing, but 
I've come to feel I'd rather not.

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Re: OT - Can you ID this mount?

[Cotty]

On 21/11/09, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This is the mount of an interesting lens I'm watching at a well known
>auction site:
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rm34A9BNjNwK_hwgzbp8Jw?
>authkey=Gv1sRgCJKqrMO9zcen6wE&feat=directlink
>
>Does anyone know what it is?  It might not be a still camera mount as
>the lens has a history in broadcasting.  It was used on a big old TV
>camera so it should have ample coverage for my 4/3 Oly.  I'm hoping
>that there's a T-mount in front of that very plain bayonet as this
>lens came in two versions, C-mount or T-mount, and that's too big to
>be a C-mount.  It's a reputable brand widely used in still, cine and
>video, and with a day and a half to go the price is still rock bottom.

Looks like a B4 mount to me. some links that might help:



Pictures 2 and 3 down on this page:



B4 mounts cover 2/3 inch video sensors (8.8mm X 6.6mm)

HTH



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Re: OT - Can you ID this mount?

[Anthony Farr]

2009/11/21 Michel Carrère-Gée :
>
> Petri ??
> http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-99.html
>

That looks like it, but it's not an answer I'd expect.  Low volume
products in the TV industry may well use all sorts of borrowed tech.
Why reinvent the wheel, I suppose.

regards, Anthony

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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[steve harley]

On 2009-11-18 05:22 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:

The part about there being more new SACD/DVDA new releases now
than more new vinyl **releases** now is incorrect, there is
a ton of brand new LP edition issues right now, way more than
SACD or DVDA combined. Most of these are high end LP reissues
of legacy music, but that's what people want anyway, not
new 2009 music recordings.


do you have some industry statistics to back that up? my impression was 
that most new vinyl was new dance tracks



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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 9:45:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
cagu...@earthlink.net writes:
Great shot, Marnie!  Another terrific  shot.  Cheers, Christine
==
Thanks, Christine!

Marnie :-)

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject:  Re: PESO - Photographic Competition


On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:29:20  -0500, you wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM,wrote:
>>
>> A grab shot. Just for  fun.
>>
>>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
>>
>Har!
>
>I  think it's brilliant.  And funny.
>
>Wonderful  shot!

Three thoughts come to mind:

1 - Sympathetic: Anyone who  could look at that scene and *not* want to
get a photogarph of it has  something wrong with them

2 - Snarky: I think Marnie got a better photo  than any of them did

3 - Bizarre: That tripod without a camera or a  photographer!


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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 11/19/2009 8:50:39 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes:
Snarky II:  So what  kind of snobby SOB's are we to say these folks
aren't worthy of taking  pictures at a scenic overlook?  I always
thought Pal was jealous of the  expensive cameras that the
Orthodontists were carrying when he saw them at  the overlooks.
Regards,  Bob S.


===
There were  a lot of photographers at tunnel view ("Yosemite Traditional") 
also. Another  place a tour bus could pull into. Those were the two major 
places that buses  could.

The favorite shot was putting your family/friend right in the  middle of 
the view and taking a picture of them, so they would be in front of  the whole 
valley. That was the second favorite shot at valley view, this  location.

"Hey, I was here!" Why not?

Frankly, for the non-people  shots, I kept wondering if the presets on 
their P&S were getting better  photos than I did trying more complicated 
things. 
Heh.

Marnie  :-)

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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

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In a message dated 11/19/2009 8:00:47 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
m...@robertstech.com writes:
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009  22:29:20 -0500, you wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM,wrote:
>>
>> A grab shot. Just  for  fun.
>>
>>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
>>
>Har!
>
>I  think it's brilliant.  And funny.
>
>Wonderful  shot!

Three thoughts come to mind:

1 - Sympathetic: Anyone who  could look at that scene and *not* want to
get a photogarph of it has  something wrong with them

2 - Snarky: I think Marnie got a better photo  than any of them did

3 - Bizarre: That tripod without a camera or a  photographer!


==
3. Someone set up it to claim space,  I think. Mark out their territory.  
:-)

I saw him do it, and that is  all I could come up with. When all the people 
moved in, he moved back, but  didn't take his tripod. And I found out later 
it was a carbon fiber, so weight  was not why he left it there.

Marnie aka Doe ;-) Thanks, Mark re  #2.

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Re: PESO - Photographic Competition

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In a message dated 11/19/2009 7:29:39 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009  at 2:00 PM,   wrote:
>
> A grab shot.  Just for  fun.
>
>  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
>

Har!

I  think it's brilliant.  And funny.

Wonderful  shot!

cheers,
frank


Thanks,  frank.

Marnie :-)  I thought it was  amusing.

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Re: OT - Can you ID this mount?

[Bran Everseeking]

On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:31:26 +1100
Anthony Farr  wrote:

> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rm34A9BNjNwK_hwgzbp8Jw?authkey=Gv1sRgCJKqrMO9zcen6wE&feat=directlink

oi, you! Papers please.

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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Charles Robinson]

On Nov 19, 2009, at 21:12, Cory Waters wrote:

> I think he means bipEd.  And I'm SHOCKED that nobody's made any kind of 
> reference to the thread being NSFW :)

I was reading through the thread to make sure the joke hadn't already been made 
before I cracked wise about NSFW.  

Thank you for sparing me the effort, Cory!

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Re: OT - Can you ID this mount?

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

Anthony Farr a écrit :

This is the mount of an interesting lens I'm watching at a well known
auction site:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rm34A9BNjNwK_hwgzbp8Jw?authkey=Gv1sRgCJKqrMO9zcen6wE&feat=directlink

Does anyone know what it is?  It might not be a still camera mount as
the lens has a history in broadcasting.  It was used on a big old TV
camera so it should have ample coverage for my 4/3 Oly.  I'm hoping
that there's a T-mount in front of that very plain bayonet as this
lens came in two versions, C-mount or T-mount, and that's too big to
be a C-mount.  It's a reputable brand widely used in still, cine and
video, and with a day and a half to go the price is still rock bottom.

  

Petri ??
http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-99.html



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Re: PESO - The Line Up

[Anthony Farr]

2009/11/20 Anthony Farr :
> 2009/11/18 Jack Davis :
>
> Good to see some nice work coming from the old Leica, Frank.
>
> regards, Anthony
>


I just realised that I've offered the classic left-handed compliment
(no offence to any southpaws out there) closely related to "that's a
great picture, you must have a very good camera".

Sorry about that, Frank.  Of course I meant to say, "Good to see you
producing some nice work with the old Leica, Frank".

I'll take more care in future.

regards, Anthony

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OT - Can you ID this mount?

[Anthony Farr]

This is the mount of an interesting lens I'm watching at a well known
auction site:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rm34A9BNjNwK_hwgzbp8Jw?authkey=Gv1sRgCJKqrMO9zcen6wE&feat=directlink

Does anyone know what it is?  It might not be a still camera mount as
the lens has a history in broadcasting.  It was used on a big old TV
camera so it should have ample coverage for my 4/3 Oly.  I'm hoping
that there's a T-mount in front of that very plain bayonet as this
lens came in two versions, C-mount or T-mount, and that's too big to
be a C-mount.  It's a reputable brand widely used in still, cine and
video, and with a day and a half to go the price is still rock bottom.

TIA for any opinions that y'all might have.

regards, Anthony

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Re: DA 55-300

[Jack Davis]

You'll love the lens, Bong. I feel a little guilty for not having paid more for 
it. Actually, I'm considering sending another couple hundred US to Pentax to 
salve my guilt. <.. Gota' be strong..> ;-D

Jack

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> From: Bong Manayon 
> Subject: DA 55-300
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 2:35 AM
> I'm playing around with this lens and
> mounted it on my MZ-3 ... hey
> there's no vignette at all focal range!  Of course,
> its a KAF2 (no
> aperture ring) but I may be able to retire my FA
> 80-320.  Now I'm
> thinking...
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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Doug Franklin]

Cory Waters wrote:
I think he means bipEd.  And I'm SHOCKED that nobody's made any kind of 
reference to the thread being NSFW :)

CW



Doug Franklin wrote:

Scott Loveless wrote:


How much do they charge for checked baggage these days?  Do you have a
suitcase that might fit a 225 pound camera bipod?


Holy cow!  What are you going to mount on that bipod?  A 155mm field gun?


Wow!  Duh!  I really need to read the PDML earlier in the day, when my 
brain still has a chance of working.


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Re: GESO - F'n Fast & Furious. Part three

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
> This blogpost concludes the serie
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2009/11/fn-fast-furious-hst-kick-off-2009-part.html
>
> The light guy gave me a tough time in this last set. The colors where
> pointing in all different directions, so I had to play a lot with them
> to get acceptable results.
>
> I saw no choice except going for an "artistic" look. If you can't beat
> the light man, join him ;-)
>
> The first picture is what really gave me a challenge. I loved the
> pose, but he isn't 100% sharp, and the background nearly killed the
> shot. I ended up focusing on the guy by turning down the green in the
> background. So the background is now close to B&W. I think I also
> desaturated the whole scene a bit, but I'm not sure about that.
>
> I added some grain artifacts by using aggressive sharpening in all of
> them. It's rock'n roll dude ;-)

I really like the B&W one - not because it's B&W, I really like the
composition and the emotions we can see from the audience members.
Very dynamic!

cheers,
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Re: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> More blog post, more photographs:
>
> "When we are taking a picture, we are taking a picture."
>
>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/walking-zen
>
> comments always appreciated, thanks for looking.

I really like this one!

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Re: Mark Cassino's New Book

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks to Paul, we have a copy too. Galia was very happy to get her snow 
book! Now she'll have even more reasons to excel in her English lessons 
at school. And indeed, the snow flake photos are absolutely wonderful.


Boris

paul stenquist wrote:
At yesterday's PDML get together, Bill Sawyer and I had the pleasure of 
seeing Mark Cassino's latest book. This isn't a self-published volume, 
but rather a beautiful hardcover volume marketed by a respected 
publisher of children's books. While it's aimed at young children and 
their teachers, it's quite informative and, of course, packed with 
stunning snowflake photos. Among the highlights is a gorgeous shot of a 
near-perfect snowflake resting on a mitten. All shot with Pentax of 
course. It's available now at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Story-Snow-Science-Winters-Wonder/dp/0811868664/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256001065&sr=1-1 



I plan on ordering a copy for Grace's kindergarten class.

Paul



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Re: PESO - The Birds and I

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great walk -
> interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of the Wonderful, the
> Woeful and the Weird.
>
> Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html
>
>
> If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the sculptures on
> display this year:
>
> http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html
>
>
> The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked boy.  The
> local council demanded that his modesty be restored with a pair of
> swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled and removed the shorts
> early on the opening day of the exhibition.  Details here:
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses-his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
> http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v

Fun shot!

The sculptures by the sea look really interesting (and
well-photographed by you!).  That would have been a fun exhibition to
see in person.

As for the nekkid boy on the beach controversy - well, ~that's~
political correctness and censorship run amok!  Kudos to the artist
for removing the shorts.

;-)

cheers,
frank


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RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[J.C. O'Connell]

yes, this is all well known but analog music master tapes are generally
more
challenging because you cant make perfect copies like you can with
digtial tapes and at the same time you don't want to handle them
too much either. Safety tapes are often made and used but these all
degrade the sound. Degraded original masters and or use of safety tapes
instead
of the original masters is a common reason why CD reissue mastering is
generally poorer than the original LP mastering. Original issue
LPs were often mastered not only with the actual original masters,
they were also mastered using FRESH original analog masters too
which can (but not always) make an audible difference compared to
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On 20/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> YOU GUYS are in different domains, RS is talking about
> analog music tapes and JM is talking about digital data tapes. The 
> problems and handing of each is not the same.

Obviously, but it's a fact that audio tapes degrade with time, often far
faster than their owners would expect,
http://www.nfsa.gov.au/preservation/care_audiovisual/care_for_audio.html

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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Have a look here:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/11/mini-pdml-haifa-jaume.html
>
> :-).

Looks like you guys had a great time.

Wonderful photos!

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Re: PESO - Jonah

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> Wow!  Great portrait.  Just love it!  Caught at just the right moment--and I
> say break your "no crop rule"  :-).  Cheers, Christine

Thanks, Christine.

cheers,
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Re: OT: Geotagging

[Boris Liberman]

Thibs, I'd like to know if there are up to date maps of Israel to be 
found anywhere for this unit?


Thanks.


Boris

Thibouille wrote:

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Bob W  wrote:

I haven't been following, so forgive me if this has been dealt with already.
Do you mean you can attach the device directly to your camera? Or do you
mean you synch the tracks and the pictures later in the computer?


Syncing is done on the computer but any other solution (but built-in
or Nikon way) requires a sync on the computer anyway. So it doesn't
change anything. My Garmin can be hooked on the computer with USB
cable or you can get the logs from the MicroSD cards in it. Which also
means that since the cards are fairly cheap nowadays you're not
limited my log length unlike Jobo or most separate GPS receivers (aka
GPS 'mouse').

On my 256MB Micro SD I can put the whole Belgium (not big I know)
Bike/pedestrian map (with which my unit can drive you not just show
the map) and the whole area near my house (about 50 Km radius) with
Topographic map (also routable) and logs on top of that.
You can set logs as you want them (every 30 sec, every 5 minutes etc.).

Precision is up to 3 meters which is quite enough for my use.

Got the bike thingie (whatever name in English) which allow me to have
the unit under my eyes at all time when biking.

Hope it helps. Just ask if wanna know more :)




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Re: PESO - The Birds and I

[Brian Walters]

G'day Pete

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:02 +1100, "Peter McIntosh" 
wrote:

> 
> Top shots!
> 
> We went too - enjoyed it alot.  I found the boy sculpture a bit
> disconcerting - but for entirely different reasons.  Standing next to
> something as lifelike, but totally out of scale, seemed a little
> freaky; its eyes seemed to be at the same level as mine...
> 
> Looks like your timing was good - we had a fair few people to contend
> with (the last Saturday).  Still, as Wallace would say, a "grand day
> out".  I'll be back next time, but a little earlier in the day.



Thanks - glad you liked them.

One of the advantages of being more or less retired is being able to go
on a weekday when there are less people around, although the numerous
parties of school kids out on art excursions did test my patience (it
should be justifiable to chuck a few of them over the cliffs)

I will admit to a little cloning to remove the odd head and limb
protuding into the shots.

:-)>



Cheers

Brian

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> 2009/11/20 Brian Walters :
> > G'day all
> >
> > Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great walk -
> > interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of the Wonderful, the
> > Woeful and the Weird.
> >
> > Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it
> >
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html
> >
> >
> > If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the sculptures on
> > display this year:
> >
> > http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html
> >
> >
> > The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked boy.  The
> > local council demanded that his modesty be restored with a pair of
> > swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled and removed the shorts
> > early on the opening day of the exhibition.  Details here:
> >
> > http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses-his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
> > http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v
> >
> >
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RE: PESO - The Birds and I

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:00 +, "Bob W"  wrote:

> Thanks, Brian - I always enjoy seeing the shots of this event - it looks
> like a lot fun.

It sure is.  Sorry I missed the first 10 years...

Glad you enjoyed the shots.


> 
> > The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked 
> > boy.  The local council demanded that his modesty be restored 
> > with a pair of swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled 
> > and removed the shorts early on the opening day of the 
> > exhibition.  Details here:
> > 
> > http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses
> > -his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
> > http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v
> > 
> 
> What kind of seashore doesn't have cockles and winkles?


Chuckle


> 
> The scale of the sculpture makes it rather unnerving.


Yes, even more so when you stand right next to it


Cheers

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> > G'day all
> > 
> > Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great 
> > walk - interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of 
> > the Wonderful, the Woeful and the Weird.
> > 
> > Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it
> > 
> > http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html
> > 
> > 
> > If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the 
> > sculptures on display this year:
> > 
> > http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: DA 55-300

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:35 +0800, "Bong Manayon" 
wrote:
> I'm playing around with this lens and mounted it on my MZ-3 ... hey
> there's no vignette at all focal range!  Of course, its a KAF2 (no
> aperture ring) but I may be able to retire my FA 80-320.  Now I'm
> thinking...


Now that is interesting.  Thanks for posting.

I'd never thought about using this lens on a 35 mm SLR but the Z1 I just
bought allows controlling the aperture from the body.

Hmmm.



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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Boris Liberman]

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

Well, finally at home after a safe but not exactly nice trip:
Plane delay, almost didn't take off because pilots don't want to work more than 
stablished hours, woman get sight in flight: 'is there a doctor in the plane?', 
lost connection, had to sleep in Madrid and thake the first morning flight to 
BCN,...but well, at the end this is another anecdote once on get safe at home.

Regarding the PDML meeting, I want to stress that we did try to follow all the 
rules:
- Good meal
- Good beer (Belgium this time, although I found the local Goldstar remarkable, 
not bad at all).
- Pentax equipment spread all over the table
- Good conversation
- Excellent host

I just want to publicly emphasize the last point since Boris was kind enough to 
get out earlier from work, drive more than 1 hour to meet me and then drive 2 
more hours back home. That's quite an effort IMHO (and in my European Distance 
scale...).
If you have the chance to visit Israel, I would let him know. You won't regret.

About the pictures, we did our best regarding the conditions (I finished my 
work when it was already dark so we couldn't meet earlier) but it seems that 
Boris managed to get some good Haifa night skylines.
I still haven't gone through mine, but I don't expect too much. I'll post 
something at least to show Boris using a 'consumer' zoom...and kind of liking 
it !! ;-)

Regards from Barcelona,
Jaume



Jaume, you're being too kind ;-).

But indeed, if anyone is going to come here, do give me a shout!

Boris

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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Rob Studdert]

On 20/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> YOU GUYS are in different domains, RS is talking about
> analog music tapes and JM is talking about digital data
> tapes. The problems and handing of each is not the same.

Obviously, but it's a fact that audio tapes degrade with time, often
far faster than their owners would expect,
http://www.nfsa.gov.au/preservation/care_audiovisual/care_for_audio.html

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Re: PESO - The Birds and I

[Peter McIntosh]

2009/11/20 Brian Walters :
> G'day all
>
> Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great walk -
> interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of the Wonderful, the
> Woeful and the Weird.
>
> Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it
>
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html
>
>
> If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the sculptures on
> display this year:
>
> http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html
>
>
> The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked boy.  The
> local council demanded that his modesty be restored with a pair of
> swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled and removed the shorts
> early on the opening day of the exhibition.  Details here:
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses-his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
> http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v
>
>

Top shots!

We went too - enjoyed it alot.  I found the boy sculpture a bit
disconcerting - but for entirely different reasons.  Standing next to
something as lifelike, but totally out of scale, seemed a little
freaky; its eyes seemed to be at the same level as mine...

Looks like your timing was good - we had a fair few people to contend
with (the last Saturday).  Still, as Wallace would say, a "grand day
out".  I'll be back next time, but a little earlier in the day.

Regards,

Pete in western Sydney

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Re: NSW PDML 2010

[Peter McIntosh]

2009/11/20 Christian :
> It's 4 weeks before we depart for 'stralia and I just wanted to start
> planning for the PDML meet up in Sydney for January.
>
> After spending time at my in-laws in Tamworth, we'll be in Sydney from
> January 3rd to January 8th (we leave for LA at 9pm on the 8th).
>
> So who's in?  I'm pretty sure Rob Studdert will be there.  And Dave Savage
> is making a cross-country trek to hang out with us.
>
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I should be around during this time too, although I'll probably be
working.  I'll say a tentative yes for now, and see what eventuates
closer to the date.

Regards,

Pete in western Sydney - who has been cycling alot more than he has
been photographing...

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DA 55-300

[Bong Manayon]

I'm playing around with this lens and mounted it on my MZ-3 ... hey
there's no vignette at all focal range!  Of course, its a KAF2 (no
aperture ring) but I may be able to retire my FA 80-320.  Now I'm
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Re: AF540FGZ on K10D won't fire on 2nd curtain

[mike wilson]

Reflective stripes on the clothes affecting exposure?

 eckinator  wrote: 
> Here's the link to a shot now - the pic sucks and my technique still
> needs a lot of work
> http://picasaweb.google.com/eckinator/PDML?authkey=Gv1sRgCNqL6t_Yvcy8eQ&feat=email#
> suggestions appreciated
> cheers
> ecke
> 
> 2009/11/19 eckinator :
> > heh... I wonder if that will work - will give it a few shots...
> >
> > 2009/11/18 Thibouille :
> >> You can overexpose by 2 stops this way:
> >>
> >> Set the flash EV to +1 on the flash.
> >> Set the flash EV to +1 on the camera.
> >> Total +2 EV ;)
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:12 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> >>> Could be - I was trying to combine an underexposed image and a flash
> >>> set to overexpose to freeze movement. I will post a pic. I am not
> >>> happy with the result yet in many ways - the motion freeze effect
> >>> isn't strong enough - af540fgz can only overexpose one stop - the
> >>> foreground looks grey and washed out because I am shooting handheld
> >>> and I think it was a slightly foggy day - but you may have a point =)
> >>> I was entertaining the foolish notion actually that the camera would
> >>> do as I say... silly me...
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Ecke
> >>>
> >>> 2009/11/18 Doug Brewer :
>  eckinator wrote:
> >
> > both set to 2nd curtain, TAV mode, 0.5 sec f/4 - what am I doing wrong?
> > TIA
> > Ecke
> 
>  what's the light like? The auto ISO range? could the camera think there's
>  enough like already?


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RE: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[J.C. O'Connell]

YOU GUYS are in different domains, RS is talking about
analog music tapes and JM is talking about digital data
tapes. The problems and handing of each is not the same.

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 3:31 AM
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Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital


On Nov 17, 2009, at 15:40 , Rob Studdert wrote:

> the master recordings being tape however do degrade
> with time. The ferrous binders often fail or become sticky so the the 
> tape flutters, the remnant magnetism becomes diminished so the noise 
> floor rises and dynamics become a little compressed. Plus old tapes 
> often suffer "print-through" which is an echo effect created due to 
> tape layers imposing their magnetic record on each other. It's 
> absolutely no surprise that old tapes sound worse years after they 
> were recorded.

I had the pleasure of observing how the gov't (*military*) record to  
tape, and how they go about preserving the data on them. First off,  
I'm talking 70mm 48 track ferrous tape on 24" Pyrex glass reels. In  
the 80s.

A raw tape is first run through one way and then rewound while passing  
the oxide side over a quartz prism edge to knock off any loose  
coating, while the backside is passing over a counter-rotating fine  
cotton cleaner that is itself a 9" reel to reel sub-system. The vacuum  
chambers on either side of the heads control the tape slack loops, and  
that air removes any dust or oxide that is not trapped by the  
mechanisms above.

Once recorded, the tape is played twice to do a checksum on the data  
tracks, and a comparative check for variances in the analog signal  
that is recorded simultaneously on hard disk platter packs. Then it's  
stored properly.

Every three months, the tapes were wound and rewound to repack them  
and prevent print-through or edge degredation.

Every six months, the tape is taken out of storage, wound side to  
side, then duplicated to an identical reel of tape while being check  
summed against the original. The master tape is then cleaned and  
stored as a backup.

The next time around, six months later, a dupe is made of the backup  
tape, then the master bulk erased. If that erased master test ok, it  
is re-used to record another session. It is never used to record a  
third time, no matter how well it tests. Because of the classified  
nature of the tapes, when it is thrown out it is bulk erased twice,  
shredded then burned on site.

Keeps a half-dozen strong gentlemen employed 24 hours a day, year  
round, as the reels each weight 80 lbs..

It is most likely being done entirely digitally and stored on hard  
drives these days. And I guess my point is that the master and dupe  
backup tapes were never left to sit for more than three months.

Joseph McAllister
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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Jaume Lahuerta]

- Mensaje original 

> De: Christine Aguila 
> 
> Neato!  Sounds like you had a nice PDML meet up.  some nice city sky line 
> shots 
> there & I'd say Jaume is a bit dishy as well ;-).  


Oh, I had to look up this one just to get a bit embarrassed when I discovered 
the meaning...err...thanks ! ;-)
(probably Boris chose the most flattering pics anyway...)

Regards,
Jaume


  

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Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Well, finally at home after a safe but not exactly nice trip:
Plane delay, almost didn't take off because pilots don't want to work more than 
stablished hours, woman get sight in flight: 'is there a doctor in the plane?', 
lost connection, had to sleep in Madrid and thake the first morning flight to 
BCN,...but well, at the end this is another anecdote once on get safe at home.

Regarding the PDML meeting, I want to stress that we did try to follow all the 
rules:
- Good meal
- Good beer (Belgium this time, although I found the local Goldstar remarkable, 
not bad at all).
- Pentax equipment spread all over the table
- Good conversation
- Excellent host

I just want to publicly emphasize the last point since Boris was kind enough to 
get out earlier from work, drive more than 1 hour to meet me and then drive 2 
more hours back home. That's quite an effort IMHO (and in my European Distance 
scale...).
If you have the chance to visit Israel, I would let him know. You won't regret.

About the pictures, we did our best regarding the conditions (I finished my 
work when it was already dark so we couldn't meet earlier) but it seems that 
Boris managed to get some good Haifa night skylines.
I still haven't gone through mine, but I don't expect too much. I'll post 
something at least to show Boris using a 'consumer' zoom...and kind of liking 
it !! ;-)

Regards from Barcelona,
Jaume



- Mensaje original 
> De: Boris Liberman 
> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Enviado: vie,20 noviembre, 2009 06:16
> Asunto: Re: Mini PDML Meet - Jaume comes to Haifa
> 
> paul stenquist wrote:
> > Nice pics. Looks like you had a great evening.
> > Paul
> 
> I did. We may have to wait until Jaume makes his trip home to hear his 
> opinion 
> ;-).
> 
> Boris
> 
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Re: number of images/shutter clicks in k7 ?

[Igor Roshchin]

Thanks to all who replied.

Igor

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RE: PESO 2009 - 189, 190 - GDG

[Bob W]

> 
> More blog post, more photographs:
> 
> "When we are taking a picture, we are taking a picture."
> 
>http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/walking-zen
> 
> comments always appreciated, thanks for looking.







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RE: PESO - Photographic Competition

[Bob W]

> Snarky II:  So what kind of snobby SOB's are we to say these 
> folks aren't worthy of taking pictures at a scenic overlook?  

Nobody's said that, or even implied it.

Bob


> I always thought Pal was jealous of the expensive cameras 
> that the Orthodontists were carrying when he saw them at the 
> overlooks.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Mark Roberts 
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:29:20 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM,   wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A grab shot. Just for  fun.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/comp.htm
> >>>
> >>Har!
> >>
> >>I think it's brilliant.  And funny.
> >>
> >>Wonderful shot!
> >
> > Three thoughts come to mind:
> >
> > 1 - Sympathetic: Anyone who could look at that scene and 
> *not* want to 
> > get a photogarph of it has something wrong with them
> >
> > 2 - Snarky: I think Marnie got a better photo than any of them did
> >
> > 3 - Bizarre: That tripod without a camera or a photographer!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark Roberts
> > Photography & Multimedia
> > www.robertstech.com
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RE: PESO - The Birds and I

[Bob W]

> G'day all
> 
> Went along to Sculpture by the Sea again this year.  Great 
> walk - interesting sculptures with the usual eclectic mix of 
> the Wonderful, the Woeful and the Weird.
> 
> Here's a shot taken just for the hell of it
> 
> http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/182749/The_Birds_and_I.html
> 
> 
> If anyone's interested, here's a GESO of some of the 
> sculptures on display this year:
> 
> http://supera.jalbum.net/Sculpture_by_the_Sea_2009/index.html
> 
> 

Thanks, Brian - I always enjoy seeing the shots of this event - it looks
like a lot fun.

> The main controversy this year was the sculpture of a naked 
> boy.  The local council demanded that his modesty be restored 
> with a pair of swimming shorts, however the artist rebelled 
> and removed the shorts early on the opening day of the 
> exhibition.  Details here:
> 
> http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/arts/little-boy-loses
> -his-swimmers-as-artist-rebels/2009/10/31/1256835190849.html
> http://tinyurl.com/yeyev8v
> 

What kind of seashore doesn't have cockles and winkles?

The scale of the sculpture makes it rather unnerving.


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Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital

[Joseph McAllister]

On Nov 17, 2009, at 15:40 , Rob Studdert wrote:


the master recordings being tape however do degrade
with time. The ferrous binders often fail or become sticky so the the
tape flutters, the remnant magnetism becomes diminished so the noise
floor rises and dynamics become a little compressed. Plus old tapes
often suffer "print-through" which is an echo effect created due to
tape layers imposing their magnetic record on each other. It's
absolutely no surprise that old tapes sound worse years after they
were recorded.


I had the pleasure of observing how the gov't (*military*) record to  
tape, and how they go about preserving the data on them. First off,  
I'm talking 70mm 48 track ferrous tape on 24" Pyrex glass reels. In  
the 80s.


A raw tape is first run through one way and then rewound while passing  
the oxide side over a quartz prism edge to knock off any loose  
coating, while the backside is passing over a counter-rotating fine  
cotton cleaner that is itself a 9" reel to reel sub-system. The vacuum  
chambers on either side of the heads control the tape slack loops, and  
that air removes any dust or oxide that is not trapped by the  
mechanisms above.


Once recorded, the tape is played twice to do a checksum on the data  
tracks, and a comparative check for variances in the analog signal  
that is recorded simultaneously on hard disk platter packs. Then it's  
stored properly.


Every three months, the tapes were wound and rewound to repack them  
and prevent print-through or edge degredation.


Every six months, the tape is taken out of storage, wound side to  
side, then duplicated to an identical reel of tape while being check  
summed against the original. The master tape is then cleaned and  
stored as a backup.


The next time around, six months later, a dupe is made of the backup  
tape, then the master bulk erased. If that erased master test ok, it  
is re-used to record another session. It is never used to record a  
third time, no matter how well it tests. Because of the classified  
nature of the tapes, when it is thrown out it is bulk erased twice,  
shredded then burned on site.


Keeps a half-dozen strong gentlemen employed 24 hours a day, year  
round, as the reels each weight 80 lbs..


It is most likely being done entirely digitally and stored on hard  
drives these days. And I guess my point is that the master and dupe  
backup tapes were never left to sit for more than three months.


Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

The Big Bang was silent, and probably invisible.
— from the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far.


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