Re: WAY OT: Any physics professors?

2010-01-03 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jan 2, 2010, at 19:55 , William Robb wrote:

Psilocybin mushrooms are much more fun. Portabellas just kind of  
lay there.



I had this girlfriend once

William Robb


Why only once?


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Re: PESO Faded Feelings

2010-01-03 Thread Tim Bray
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:24 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shot on a dull day feeling the funk - #1 is the original, 2 and 3 are
 crops, I am unsure about b/w, comments encouraged and appreciated

 http://tinyurl.com/ydk4w7d

Good piece of work.  I'd have tried to punch up the red blossom a bit
but then I don't do subtlety.  -T


 Tech stuff K10D DA*16-50 16/2.8 1/2...@400

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Re: PESO 2009 - 215 - GDG

2010-01-03 Thread Tim Bray
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Last Call

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/215-last-call

Outstanding.  I took essentially the same shot, conceptually, but I
junked it; what you got was what I was trying for. -T

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jan 2, 2010, at 22:09 , Boris Liberman wrote:


The advice to use the 16-45 was a surprise. That is a
pretty flexible lens. Going down to 24 mm equivalent
may not be essential, but it is something I'd use.


SNIP




There are quite a few deficiencies in being an owner of Pentax
system (you can throw all the rotten vegetables you want at me, I
know) such as: 1. lack of support and/or services 2. lack of
professional services, which to my understanding also includes ability
to rent expensive cameras and lenses for short periods of time
(something I'd love to do)


Pentax/Hoya announced a program for professionals and advanced  
amateurs who jump through a few hoops (not a lot) whereby most Pentax  
equipment, but especially the more exotic glass would be loaned or  
rented for short term or specific projects. The hoops consist mainly  
of making Pentax aware of your expertise and professionalism, then  
starting with baby steps to built a rapport. Loans or rentals depends  
on the relationship you have with Pentax, and the possibility that an  
article would be published with Pentax credit in your byline. They see  
the need for loans such as this as a sales opportunity, and creating  
goodwill amongst those who would be most useful in promoting the  
Pentax philosophy.


Get in touch. Sell yourself. Promote yourself to Pentax. It can have  
good ramifications.


Joseph McAllister
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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Get in touch. Sell yourself. Promote yourself to Pentax. It can have good
 ramifications.

 Joseph McAllister
 pentax...@mac.com

Joseph, I live in Israel. Here, the official Pentax distributor also
happens to be the official Canon distributor. Do I need to say more?


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The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread Tim Bray
I just know you're doing this too.  I saw the email about next year's
annual + gallery + trip to Chicago, bowed ritually in the direction of
the God-like organizers, and later that evening, I had to take the
quickest-possible trip through all the 2009 photos thinking Well,
maybe and tossing those into a PDML-candidates
folder/collection/whatever-your-workflow-calls-it.

Then I took one pass through tossing the ones that were great concepts
but lame photos and ended up with... 39.

What's your number?

And I was wondering if it'd be A Good Thing if we each posted a
gallery of our Top X Candidates for PDML 09 and heaped praise on
each others' winners (while throwing judicious dung at each others'
Well-Meaning But Unfortunate Mistakes).  Because getting down to 3 is
going to hurt.  -T

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread mike wilson

David J Brooks wrote:

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:


Nobody mention the A20 2.8?



No one expects the A20 2.8


Because of the comfy bokeh?



Dave


http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/ultra-wide/A20f2.8.html

I had it for a while and it was beyond excellent.


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RE: PESO: Neve's Gaze

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Mitchell
 -Original Message-
 From: Alastair Robertson
 
 sorry about the size
 delete the medium bit off the URL - ie
 http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/120750802
 Alastair
 
A beautiful picture of an intimate moment. Lovely.

Chris



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Re: The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Jan 3, 2010, at 00:40 , Tim Bray wrote:


I just know you're doing this too.  I saw the email about next year's
annual + gallery + trip to Chicago, bowed ritually in the direction of
the God-like organizers, and later that evening, I had to take the
quickest-possible trip through all the 2009 photos thinking Well,
maybe and tossing those into a PDML-candidates
folder/collection/whatever-your-workflow-calls-it.

Then I took one pass through tossing the ones that were great concepts
but lame photos and ended up with... 39.

What's your number?

And I was wondering if it'd be A Good Thing if we each posted a
gallery of our Top X Candidates for PDML 09 and heaped praise on
each others' winners (while throwing judicious dung at each others'
Well-Meaning But Unfortunate Mistakes).  Because getting down to 3 is
going to hurt.  -T




So you suffer from ADD too?

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Without Nature there isn't any humankind. Without humankind, Nature is  
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Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Mitchell
Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
fractal-like pattern around a stone.

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html

When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be able to
tell us how it works...

Chris



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Re: The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread mike wilson

Tim Bray wrote:



Because getting down to 3 is
going to hurt.  -T


Not as much as getting up to three.

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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread Tim Bray
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
 fractal-like pattern around a stone.

 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html

 When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be able to
 tell us how it works...

Guernsey... I've often wanted to visit the Channel Islands.  Do you
recommend them as a destination?  -T

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RE: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Mitchell
 From Tim Bray
 Subject: Re: Sand patterns
 
 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Chris Mitchell
 chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
  Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
  fractal-like pattern around a stone.
 
  http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html
 
  When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be
 able to
  tell us how it works...
 
 Guernsey... I've often wanted to visit the Channel Islands.  Do you
 recommend them as a destination?  -T

Tim, I can highly recommend Guernsey, Herm and Sark. I've not been to
Alderney or Jersey (apart from once when we landed there because Guernsey
was fogged in). Guernsey is a quiet place about 9 miles by 5 with great
scenery, lovely beaches and good food and accommodation. And the people are
lovely. It's a 50 minute flight from Gatwick and only 25 minutes from
Southampton.

I have to declare an interest - my wife is from Guernsey and we have lots of
family and friends there. We go a couple of times a year - we spent
Christmas there and will go again in the summer. 

I detect a PDML meet coming on :-)

Chris



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Re: PESO - Untitled

2010-01-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/1/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/untitled.html

I don't know if they're already in a relationship (with each other,
that is) or if they just hooked up that night, but my guess is the
latter.  There's an excitement and anticipation in their body language
that I find rather interesting.  If you can think of a title that I
could use, I'd be grateful.

Passion With Pace.

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Re: WAY OT: Any physics professors?

2010-01-03 Thread Larry Colen


On Jan 2, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Ken Waller wrote:


I'm not a physics professor, but I did sleep at a Holiday inn Express!


So an engineer, a physics professor and a Mathematician spend the  
night at a Holiday Inn Express. During the night the hotel catches  
fire...




Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com 


Subject: WAY OT: Any physics professors?


If so, please contact me off list if you're willing to answer to a  
complicated but stupid question.



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RE: Weather

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
 
 On Jan 2, 2010, at 11:45 PM, Bob W wrote:
 
  I'm working on it.  Currently enjoying a bottle of cider that our 
  goldfishes gave me for xmas.
  
  I'm surprised they remembered.
 
 Myth busted :)
 
 http://mythbustersresults.com/episode11
 

Sorry - some bloke called Jamie telling us about it on the internet is not
'busting'. Until I've seen it in a peer-reviewed scientific journal with
several independent experiments confirming it, and a Nobel Prize (or at
least an honourable mention in the annual Goldfish Weekly awards) for the
discoverer, then the little pisces can't remember when it's Christmas or
whether Dave likes cider or not.



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RE: The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
 
 I just know you're doing this too.  I saw the email about 
 next year's annual + gallery + trip to Chicago, bowed 
 ritually in the direction of the God-like organizers, and 
 later that evening, I had to take the quickest-possible trip 
 through all the 2009 photos thinking Well, maybe and 
 tossing those into a PDML-candidates
 folder/collection/whatever-your-workflow-calls-it.
 
 Then I took one pass through tossing the ones that were great 
 concepts but lame photos and ended up with... 39.
 
 What's your number?
 
 And I was wondering if it'd be A Good Thing if we each posted 
 a gallery of our Top X Candidates for PDML 09 and heaped 
 praise on each others' winners (while throwing judicious dung 
 at each others'
 Well-Meaning But Unfortunate Mistakes).  Because getting down 
 to 3 is going to hurt.  -T

If all 39 are equally good then it doesn't matter which three you send. 

See if you can find some sets of 3 that work particularly well together,
then try and rank the sets. 

Bob


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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  Your pictures clearly communicate the winter charm of Stouffivlle.
 
  Mark!
 
  I agree. I'd like to go to Stouffville sometime. It has
 such a great name.

 Thats why we moved here not Lemonville.;-)


 I've spent my life avoiding Lemonville.

 But Stouffville - ah! The romance! - I imagine it to be like Des Moines,
 Iowa, the county seat of Polk County and a major centre for the insurance
 industry ranked 9th best city in Kiplinger's Personal Finance list of best
 cities, only better.

 Bob

Yup, thats us.:-)

Dave



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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Frank.

I find we are anywere from -4 to -6 degrees colder than the city.

Dave

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:31 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice series, Dave.

 We don't have quite as much snow here in town, but it's cold today -
 not Out West cold, but compared to two days ago...

 I really like CNR1-3992 with the railway tracks in the snow.  Lovely!

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Carlos R
Besides the excellent 16-45 that some people suggested, there is the FA 
20-35. Small, AF and high IQ too, though you would have to look for a 
second hand one.


The Voigtländer 58mm 1.4 seems an excellent choice for an 85mm 
equivalent, but I think it will be hard to focus it accurately using the 
comparatively small K-x viewfinder, as you come from an MX which has an 
enormous viewfinder compared to APS-C DSLRs. Every time I compare my two 
MX to the *ist DS and K10D, I am astonished at the difference. But in 
that case you can buy a Pentax O-ME53 magnifying eyecup.


Carlos

Sandy Harris escribió:




What I have in mind is the classic 35/85 two lens kit.

35 full-frame equivalent would be wide enough for most of my
purposes. Good cheap 24/2 or 2.8 would be first choice if there
was one. 21 Limited definitely appeals, but nothing wider unless
it is a zoom.

I thought of a 10-20 or 12-24 zoom, but I don't think I'd need
the wider end much and those lenses tend to be fairly heavy
 expensive.

On the longer side, 75 mm equivalent is the minimum, and
I'd prefer a bit longer. Voigtlander 58/1.4 is my first thought.

I can afford 21 Limited and 50/1.4, giving me two autofocus
Pentax lenses. Those look like a good match and comments
on them are all positive. 50 is not quite as long as I'd like,
but you can't have everything.

Voigtlander 58/1.4 would be preferable on the long end,
but it is more money, not autofocus and perhaps harder
to match. Might not work well with 21, too big a gap
between.

I thought perhaps the 58 and Sigma 24/1.8 to give me
two fast lenses, but the Sigma i's fairly heavy and no-one
here is praising it. I'm no longer considering that.

The advice to use the 16-45 was a surprise. That is a
pretty flexible lens. Going down to 24 mm equivalent
may not be essential, but it is something I'd use.

The obvious 2nd lens to go with it would be 70/2.4
Limited. That would be a bit beyond what I want to
spend, but a very flexible kit. Hmmm






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RE: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
 Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made 
 this fractal-like pattern around a stone.
 
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html
 
 When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he 
 will be able to tell us how it works...
 

Very nice. 

I think it's the PDML maths professor you want though. However, you can
expect some very different reactions to this picture - even though I failed
O-level maths I think I'm correct in saying that fractal functions both
attract and repel.

Bob


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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Thank you.

The super boxes are set every block or two and not only hold our daily
mail, but serve as a junk mail recepticale also, as you can see.;-)

The Tattoo shop is new and i thought it was interesting to see one
next to a doggy day care.;-)

Dave

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:42 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice set Dave; I am especially fond of Superbox, Pond 3  4, Mill
 Street 2, and CNR. Tattoo shop sign in K9 has this 81 feel to it - am
 I guessing right?
 Cheers
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RE: PESO - Untitled

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
 Can't come up with a good title.  I was walking home about 6 
 or 8 weeks ago after closing time on a Friday night 
 (actually, Saturday
 morning) and saw this couple:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/untitled.html
 
 I don't know if they're already in a relationship (with each 
 other, that is) or if they just hooked up that night, but my 
 guess is the latter.  There's an excitement and anticipation 
 in their body language that I find rather interesting.  If 
 you can think of a title that I could use, I'd be grateful.
 
 Comments always welcome, and as always, thanks for looking.
 
 cheers,
 frank

Looks to me like she wants to get out of the cold as quickly as possible.



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Re: PESO High Voltage Headshot

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Nice sign.

I visited London England in 1975 and toured some of the castles. I was
amazed at how small the Knights armour was and i'm only 5'6

Dave

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just an old warning sign I saw at La Granja manor (south of
 Valldemossa, Mallorca, Spain) and found kinda fun.

 La Granja is a medieval manor now converted into a museum based on its
 own history; well worth a visit if you are in the area. Friends own a
 small apartment on a hilltop overlooking Puerto de Andratx which has a
 fabulous view but is in somewhat poor repair so they rent it out for
 15 to 25 € a night which is next to nothing by any standard. Thus, I
 will definitely be going there again some day.

 http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4

 Same Picasa web album as always
 Comments appreciated as always

 Cheers
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RE: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
  On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Chris Mitchell 
  chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
   Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this 
   fractal-like pattern around a stone.
  
   
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.htm
   l
  
   When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be
  able to
   tell us how it works...
  
  Guernsey... I've often wanted to visit the Channel Islands.  Do you 
  recommend them as a destination?  -T
 
 Tim, I can highly recommend Guernsey, Herm and Sark. I've not 
 been to Alderney or Jersey (apart from once when we landed 
 there because Guernsey was fogged in). Guernsey is a quiet 
 place about 9 miles by 5 with great scenery, lovely beaches 
 and good food and accommodation. And the people are lovely. 
 It's a 50 minute flight from Gatwick and only 25 minutes from 
 Southampton.
 
 I have to declare an interest - my wife is from Guernsey and 
 we have lots of family and friends there. We go a couple of 
 times a year - we spent Christmas there and will go again in 
 the summer. 
 
 I detect a PDML meet coming on :-)
 
 Chris

Might be a good idea - it's only £80- return from Gatwick. I could fly out
straight from work on a Friday, back on Sunday. 


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Re: locked and loaded leica

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
I have a roll of Tmax in my PZ-1 almost done, but 1 more in the fridge.

Dave

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great minds think alike, Paul (not very modest, I know ;-) ). My K-7
 is in the service for focusing screen calibration. Galia is shooting
 with K10D. I, meanwhile, finished a film in my trusty MZ-6. Shooting
 with FA 20/2.8 at full frame throttle was surprisingly pleasant. And
 too, I couldn't show Galia the pictures right after taking them ;-).

 My regards to your Leica ;-).

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 exercise the shutter, as I do from time to time. Then I thought, hell, I can 
 do better. Dug down to the bottom of the deep freeze in the basement and 
 found a roll of TMY 400. Tri-X would be more appropriate of course, but 
 there was none to be found. Lots of MF film and one roll of Ektagraphic 
 35mm, but that's another story. Anyway, I trimmed the leader of that TMY 
 roll back about 6 inches, as required for Barnack Leicas. Had to study the 
 take up spool for a minute to remember how the film is inserted, but I 
 figured it out and loaded the camera. It wound fine, so I shot a pic of 
 Grace sitting on the fireplace. Exposure estimated of course. She asked to 
 see it immediately:-). Film predates her.

 Perhaps I'll finish the roll tomorrow. Or not.
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Re: The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/3 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 If all 39 are equally good then it doesn't matter which three you send.

 See if you can find some sets of 3 that work particularly well together,
 then try and rank the sets.

39 = 13 * 3 so that should slice the size of the problem by 66%, right? :-)


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Re: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Looks familiar. I like the line work of this one

Dave

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 So yes, this is sort of a rerun.  Originally shot in 2005 with my *ist-D.  A
 brand new conversion with Pentax's Digital Camera Utility 4, the interface
 is mostly livable, and it runs on my OS of choice, not officially but it
 runs there anyway.

 I didn't have a lot of inspiration last year and I'm thinking of submitting
 this to the annual.  A lot of people seemed to think this was an exceptional
 work at the time.  So unless I can find something I like better...

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20surfclubmadisonct.html

 Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0.

 Notes:  Some minor correction for barrel distortion in PDCU4, and a bit of
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Re: PESO: Neve's Gaze

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
New link did not load, but i saw the first link.

Lovely shot, well lit and crisp.

Dave

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 sorry about the size
 delete the medium bit off the URL - ie
 http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/120750802
 Alastair

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 wrote:
 Beautiful photo. I only wish it was posted a bit larger.
 Paul
 On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote:

 Time to post some pictures again.  10 weeks since Neve was born and
 now have some time for other things.

 http://www.pbase.com/kiwibiologist/image/120750802/medium.jpg
 Neve and Masha have a special time following feeding - it's mutual
 admiration time!

 K10D, F70-210 @ 155mm, F6.7, 1/180, Metz AF 58 bounced off ceiling.

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Re: The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/3 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
 On Jan 3, 2010, at 00:40 , Tim Bray wrote:

 I just know you're doing this too.  I saw the email about next year's
 annual + gallery + trip to Chicago, bowed ritually in the direction of
 the God-like organizers, and later that evening, I had to take the
 quickest-possible trip through all the 2009 photos thinking Well,
 maybe and tossing those into a PDML-candidates
 folder/collection/whatever-your-workflow-calls-it.

 Then I took one pass through tossing the ones that were great concepts
 but lame photos and ended up with... 39.

 What's your number?

 And I was wondering if it'd be A Good Thing if we each posted a
 gallery of our Top X Candidates for PDML 09 and heaped praise on
 each others' winners (while throwing judicious dung at each others'
 Well-Meaning But Unfortunate Mistakes).  Because getting down to 3 is
 going to hurt.  -T



 So you suffer from ADD too?

I would need ADHD, and a complete absence of the D-words to get
through that exercise. A non-starter, really.

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Re: WAY OT: Any physics professors?

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:14 AM, frank theriault
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 On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:04 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 Better that than a Psilobycin mushroom ...

 They make great tea, though.

Spent 4 years working on the left coast. Never thought of tea.:-)

Dave

 Or so I've heard...

 ;-)

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Re: PESO - Untitled

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:22 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can't come up with a good title.  I was walking home about 6 or 8
 weeks ago after closing time on a Friday night (actually, Saturday
 morning) and saw this couple:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/untitled.html

 I don't know if they're already in a relationship (with each other,
 that is) or if they just hooked up that night, but my guess is the
 latter.  There's an excitement and anticipation in their body language
 that I find rather interesting.



 If you can think of a title that I
 could use, I'd be grateful.

Gimmie my money

Dave

 Comments always welcome, and as always, thanks for looking.

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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
 fractal-like pattern around a stone.

 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html

Very nice shot.

 When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be able to
 tell us how it works...

Osmosis.

Dave

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RE: PESO High Voltage Headshot

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
But they were fantastically strong. I'm very interested in the 14th century for 
some unknown reason and despite the terrible living conditions (by our 
standards) of all ranks of society, and the unhealthy lives they all lived, the 
men had to be incredibly strong and tough, taking on major responsibilities at 
a very young age. Most of them were dead before they were 45 though.

Bob

 
 Nice sign.
 
 I visited London England in 1975 and toured some of the 
 castles. I was amazed at how small the Knights armour was and 
 i'm only 5'6
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just an old warning sign I saw at La Granja manor (south of 
  Valldemossa, Mallorca, Spain) and found kinda fun.
 
  La Granja is a medieval manor now converted into a museum 
 based on its 
  own history; well worth a visit if you are in the area. 
 Friends own a 
  small apartment on a hilltop overlooking Puerto de Andratx 
 which has a 
  fabulous view but is in somewhat poor repair so they rent it out for
  15 to 25 € a night which is next to nothing by any 
 standard. Thus, I 
  will definitely be going there again some day.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
 
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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread AlunFoto
Well done Chris!
It's difficult to get those patterns right with the typical light
brown sand. Magic light in this one.

Jostein

2010/1/3 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net:
 Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
 fractal-like pattern around a stone.

 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html

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Re: PESO High Voltage Headshot

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Yes i suppose they had to be.
I have always been interested in olden days so to speak and found
the castles very interesting.

When they do road widenings around here, they do digs and have found a
lot of native and non native artifacts. Its fun to stop and chat with
the people.

Dave

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 But they were fantastically strong. I'm very interested in the 14th century 
 for some unknown reason and despite the terrible living conditions (by our 
 standards) of all ranks of society, and the unhealthy lives they all lived, 
 the men had to be incredibly strong and tough, taking on major 
 responsibilities at a very young age. Most of them were dead before they were 
 45 though.

 Bob


 Nice sign.

 I visited London England in 1975 and toured some of the
 castles. I was amazed at how small the Knights armour was and
 i'm only 5'6

 Dave

 On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
  Just an old warning sign I saw at La Granja manor (south of
  Valldemossa, Mallorca, Spain) and found kinda fun.
 
  La Granja is a medieval manor now converted into a museum
 based on its
  own history; well worth a visit if you are in the area.
 Friends own a
  small apartment on a hilltop overlooking Puerto de Andratx
 which has a
  fabulous view but is in somewhat poor repair so they rent it out for
  15 to 25 € a night which is next to nothing by any
 standard. Thus, I
  will definitely be going there again some day.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
 
  Same Picasa web album as always
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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/3 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 I think it's the PDML maths professor you want though. However, you can
 expect some very different reactions to this picture - even though I failed
 O-level maths I think I'm correct in saying that fractal functions both
 attract and repel.

You'd need a field mathematician. :-)

If you stay a while at the beach you can actually see these patterns
form before your eyes. Running water will flush out more sand where it
finds an edge to begin with, because the water will speed up over the
edge, and the edge grains will be more exposed to drag from the water.
It may begin where there is a turbulence, like in the wake of the
stone, for example.

As to the treelike shape of the pattern, I don't know if it's just the
decreasing force of the water as wave or tide retracts or that the
force is gradually spread over a larger area, but I suspect both. It's
a fairly standard erosion pattern. If you use Google Earth, you can
see the same patterns on a larger scale in most mountaineous areas.
Particularly in arid places that experience flash floods. The same
kind of erosion patterns on Mars is convincing evidence for past
existence of water there, according to NASA.

I don't care much about the maths though. :-)

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RE: PESO High Voltage Headshot

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
Much the same here. As you can probably imagine, whenever anybody digs anything 
in Greenwich there are teams of archaeologists waiting to pounce. A few years 
ago they found an unexploded WWII bomb under one of the paths I use every 
day... 

The thing that's really getting their archaeological juices flowing at the 
moment is an enormous 12th C tide mill which they found more or less at the end 
of my street:
http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/water-power-in-medieval-greenwich.htm

Bob

 
 Yes i suppose they had to be.
 I have always been interested in olden days so to speak and 
 found the castles very interesting.
 
 When they do road widenings around here, they do digs and 
 have found a lot of native and non native artifacts. Its fun 
 to stop and chat with the people.
 
 Dave
 
 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  But they were fantastically strong. I'm very interested in 
 the 14th century for some unknown reason and despite the 
 terrible living conditions (by our standards) of all ranks of 
 society, and the unhealthy lives they all lived, the men had 
 to be incredibly strong and tough, taking on major 
 responsibilities at a very young age. Most of them were dead 
 before they were 45 though.
 
  Bob
 
 
  Nice sign.
 
  I visited London England in 1975 and toured some of the castles. I 
  was amazed at how small the Knights armour was and i'm only 5'6
 
  Dave
 
  On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM, eckinator 
 eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
   Just an old warning sign I saw at La Granja manor (south of 
   Valldemossa, Mallorca, Spain) and found kinda fun.
  
   La Granja is a medieval manor now converted into a museum
  based on its
   own history; well worth a visit if you are in the area.
  Friends own a
   small apartment on a hilltop overlooking Puerto de Andratx
  which has a
   fabulous view but is in somewhat poor repair so they rent it out 
   for
   15 to 25 € a night which is next to nothing by any
  standard. Thus, I
   will definitely be going there again some day.
  
   http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
  
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Re: GESO - New Years Eve at Bovine Sex Club

2010-01-03 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/2 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
 Frank wrote:
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-years-eve-at-bovine-sex-club.html

 Fun pics. Enjoyed these.
 If you shot more, I'd like to see the udders.

 Mooove over a bit Paul and I'll sit with you and Frank can show them
 to both of us.

 I'll hoof-it over  join you guys to see the udders as well.  Fun set,
 Frank!

 Bet the List will ruminate over this one for a while. Awesome set of
 pics.
 Wish my new year's eve had been that amoosing. :-)

 I herd it needed more cowbell.

 As long as he doesn't steer us in the wrong direction.

 Not a chance. He's going to milk this for all it's worth.

 After all we need to keep a breast of things.

All I want for Christmas is my two front teats.

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Re: PESO High Voltage Headshot

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Wow, cool find.

Its amazing how far some of these things get buried and in how little
time really.

Dave

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Much the same here. As you can probably imagine, whenever anybody digs 
 anything in Greenwich there are teams of archaeologists waiting to pounce. A 
 few years ago they found an unexploded WWII bomb under one of the paths I use 
 every day...

 The thing that's really getting their archaeological juices flowing at the 
 moment is an enormous 12th C tide mill which they found more or less at the 
 end of my street:
 http://www.archaeology.co.uk/articles/water-power-in-medieval-greenwich.htm

 Bob


 Yes i suppose they had to be.
 I have always been interested in olden days so to speak and
 found the castles very interesting.

 When they do road widenings around here, they do digs and
 have found a lot of native and non native artifacts. Its fun
 to stop and chat with the people.

 Dave

 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  But they were fantastically strong. I'm very interested in
 the 14th century for some unknown reason and despite the
 terrible living conditions (by our standards) of all ranks of
 society, and the unhealthy lives they all lived, the men had
 to be incredibly strong and tough, taking on major
 responsibilities at a very young age. Most of them were dead
 before they were 45 though.
 
  Bob
 
 
  Nice sign.
 
  I visited London England in 1975 and toured some of the castles. I
  was amazed at how small the Knights armour was and i'm only 5'6
 
  Dave
 
  On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:01 PM, eckinator
 eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
   Just an old warning sign I saw at La Granja manor (south of
   Valldemossa, Mallorca, Spain) and found kinda fun.
  
   La Granja is a medieval manor now converted into a museum
  based on its
   own history; well worth a visit if you are in the area.
  Friends own a
   small apartment on a hilltop overlooking Puerto de Andratx
  which has a
   fabulous view but is in somewhat poor repair so they rent it out
   for
   15 to 25 € a night which is next to nothing by any
  standard. Thus, I
   will definitely be going there again some day.
  
   http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
  
   Same Picasa web album as always
   Comments appreciated as always
  
   Cheers
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Re: WAY OT: Any physics professors?

2010-01-03 Thread eckinator
2010/1/3  drd1...@gmail.com:
 Ah, another thread gone awry; no professors just fungi's.

yes but it oozes profungus knowledge...

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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread eckinator
2010/1/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:

 The Tattoo shop is new and i thought it was interesting to see one
 next to a doggy day care.;-)

LOL I meant 81 as in Hell's Angels - the sign uses their colors and typeset
Cheers
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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:45 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:

 The Tattoo shop is new and i thought it was interesting to see one
 next to a doggy day care.;-)

 LOL I meant 81 as in Hell's Angels - the sign uses their colors and typeset
 Cheers
 Ecke

Ah, i see. We had the Paradice Riders around here for a while, and the
Hells Angels had a chapter about 4 km's from here, but they have moved
on after several deaths and arrests. Never clicked about their
colours.

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Peso Butta side up.

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Stouffville woke up on morning, about 2 months ago, to a sea of
taggings, mostly around the two new subdivisions recently built.

This is not new, but it is to Town officials. They are quite dismayed
and are bound a determined to stop this. Ya right

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10440867

They hit about 100 items in one night. This one stood out from the rest.
They also hit the old fire hall, about 12 hours after they moved out.
You can see that one in my recent geso. Apparently the police have a
data base on tags, and have sirmized some one from Markham, just south
of us may be doing it.

K10D DA F 30 macro 2.8 and adjusted in LR2

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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread eckinator
Right =)
Para Dice patched over to HA in 2000 (just read up) but either way
those folks are best left alone
Cheers
Ecke

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 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:45 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:

 The Tattoo shop is new and i thought it was interesting to see one
 next to a doggy day care.;-)

 LOL I meant 81 as in Hell's Angels - the sign uses their colors and typeset
 Cheers
 Ecke

 Ah, i see. We had the Paradice Riders around here for a while, and the
 Hells Angels had a chapter about 4 km's from here, but they have moved
 on after several deaths and arrests. Never clicked about their
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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Me and my spelling.;-)

We had 2-3 Para Dice riders live two doors away back in the mid 90's.
My wife was a cop back then and when one of the boys would stop in
for a coffee, they would pop out of the house and mill around,
standing infront of license plates and things.
A lot of home break ins on the street that 1st summer, but our house
was spared for some reason.

Dave

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:07 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Right =)
 Para Dice patched over to HA in 2000 (just read up) but either way
 those folks are best left alone
 Cheers
 Ecke

 2010/1/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:45 AM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:

 The Tattoo shop is new and i thought it was interesting to see one
 next to a doggy day care.;-)

 LOL I meant 81 as in Hell's Angels - the sign uses their colors and typeset
 Cheers
 Ecke

 Ah, i see. We had the Paradice Riders around here for a while, and the
 Hells Angels had a chapter about 4 km's from here, but they have moved
 on after several deaths and arrests. Never clicked about their
 colours.

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Re: Peso Butta side up.

2010-01-03 Thread eckinator
You mean the Markham Over Easy Crips?
Or was it the Kitchener Sunny Side Up Bloods? ]=)
I hear they're pushing heavily into the bacon side order market...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BTLwDZxhL._SS500_.jpg

2010/1/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 Stouffville woke up on morning, about 2 months ago, to a sea of
 taggings, mostly around the two new subdivisions recently built.

 This is not new, but it is to Town officials. They are quite dismayed
 and are bound a determined to stop this. Ya right

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10440867

 They hit about 100 items in one night. This one stood out from the rest.
 They also hit the old fire hall, about 12 hours after they moved out.
 You can see that one in my recent geso. Apparently the police have a
 data base on tags, and have sirmized some one from Markham, just south
 of us may be doing it.

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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread eckinator
2010/1/3 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:
 Me and my spelling.;-)

Google said were you perhaps searching for

 A lot of home break ins on the street that 1st summer, but our house
 was spared for some reason.

guess it was the same warm fuzz-y feeling they got when one of the
boys popped in

I think they're a pest and a pain - if you want to ride a bike into
Amsterdam and wear a patch of any sort, outlaw or rider, you have to
call HA in advance and ask for their permission... yet another reason
I just ride and keep to myself and friends

cheers
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Re: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut

2010-01-03 Thread eckinator
2010/1/3 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:

 I think a conversion to BW is about the least offensive of uninvited
 alterations.  Certainly much less invasive than, say, cloning
 something out, or cropping, IMHO.


positively great in monochrome and I hope I didn't step on any toes
with my Cycling Reworked crop which wasn't intended as a comment on
the image in the first place; I'm sorry but I don't recall the author
of the image
cheers
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Re: Geso Stouffville walk II-1-1-10

2010-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:

 Friend of mine who lived in the UK for a number of years opines that no
 one in Canada really understands rain and no one in the UK really
 understands cold.  There might be some truth to this.

 I've found the K20D works fine at -25 C if you don't bring it inside too
 fast.

 -- Graydon

They've obviously never been to the Lower Mainland. They understand
rain there. About the only place in Canada that does, but it's the
land with two seasons, warm rain and cold rain.

-Adam

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Re: GESO - New Years Eve at Bovine Sex Club

2010-01-03 Thread eckinator
2010/1/3 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
 2010/1/2 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com:
 Frank wrote:
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-years-eve-at-bovine-sex-club.html

 Fun pics. Enjoyed these.
 If you shot more, I'd like to see the udders.

 Mooove over a bit Paul and I'll sit with you and Frank can show them
 to both of us.

 I'll hoof-it over  join you guys to see the udders as well.  Fun set,
 Frank!

 Bet the List will ruminate over this one for a while. Awesome set of
 pics.
 Wish my new year's eve had been that amoosing. :-)

 I herd it needed more cowbell.

 As long as he doesn't steer us in the wrong direction.

 Not a chance. He's going to milk this for all it's worth.

 After all we need to keep a breast of things.

 All I want for Christmas is my two front teats.

let me guess, you were blinded by a pair of headlights and tripped?

cheers
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RE: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread SV Hovland
In this one, too, which I liked best: 
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1604.html



_

Stig Vidar Hovland

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:47 PM
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 Well done Chris!
 It's difficult to get those patterns right with the typical light
 brown sand. Magic light in this one.

 Jostein

 2010/1/3 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net:
  Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
  fractal-like pattern around a stone.
 
  http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html
 
  When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be able
 to
  tell us how it works...
 
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Re: PESO High Voltage Headshot

2010-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:26 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice sign.

 I visited London England in 1975 and toured some of the castles. I was
 amazed at how small the Knights armour was and i'm only 5'6

 Dave


Most display armour is actually around 5/6th scale, not full size.
While people were smaller in the middle ages, they still tended to be
pretty big in Europe, with men averaging around 5'6 - 5'8 (vs 5'11
today). When historians started comparing display armour to some parts
that were known to have seen combat, they found that much of the
display suits were actually not full sized, likely for cost reasons.

In other news, Napoleon was not actually terribly short. The French
pouce was larger than the English Inch, so while he was 5'2 in the
French system, he would actually have been 5'7 in the British
measurements, average height for the era. The idea of Napoleon as
short was mostly propaganda exploiting the common mistake.

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:

Nobody mention the A20 2.8?

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/ultra-wide/A20f2.8.html

I had it for a while and it was beyond excellent.

Or the FA 20/2.8 -- same glass as the A20 2.8 but with a 6-bladed
diaphragm rather than 5. Not quite the build quality of the A lens
but you get autofocus in return for that trade-off :)


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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Boris Liberman
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Carlos R carlos_r...@teleline.es wrote:
 Every time I compare my two MX to the
 *ist DS and K10D, I am astonished at the difference. But in that case you
 can buy a Pentax O-ME53 magnifying eyecup.

 Carlos

Carlos, I've O-ME53 and Katz Eye focusing screen on my cameras.
Although I wouldn't revert back to stock configuration, and although
admittedly it does help to focus, the experience of MX (ME Super)
viewfinder is still far up in the clouds.


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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sandy, if you are considering buying Voigt 58 and Sigma 24, then I
 humbly suggest that you consider not buying a Pentax camera. It makes
 reduced amount of sense :-) to buy a camera and use it with 3rd party
 lenses. There are quite a few deficiencies in being an owner of Pentax
 system (you can throw all the rotten vegetables you want at me, I
 know) such as: 1. lack of support and/or services 2. lack of
 professional services, which to my understanding also includes ability
 to rent expensive cameras and lenses for short periods of time
 (something I'd love to do) 3. still unclear fate of FF body (again,
 this is debatable and depends on one's preferences) 4. generally
 weaker AF performance (yes, even K-7 is outgunned by its rivals),
 which again is either important or not, depending on your shooting
 style. However, in sooth, I am not trying to advocate you against
 Pentax, because 1. Pentax has excellent glass 2. Pentax has great
 value for money 3. Pentax is also about PDML 4. Pentax lenses are
 smallest in size yet boast highest optical quality.

 It is therefore my humble suggestion that you look for Pentax glass to
 mount on your Pentax camera. If you're willing to entertain the idea
 of DA 16-45/4, then I suggest that you simply add to this a good copy
 of FA 50/1.4 and shoot until you both got the money and also the good
 idea where to go next - wide angle, portraits, telephoto, etc.

 Just my cents.

 --
 Boris


Actually, I'd disagree here. There's really nothing else comparable to
the K-x on the market, it has a unique combination of size, features
and performance and that's the real draw there.

Pentax offers nothing truly comparable to the 58 Nokton, the FA 50/1.4
handles worse (particularly for manual focus, the Nokton has a large
and well damped focus ring) and has significant QC problems with
recent production and the DA* 55 is about twice the price of the
Nokton and both are shorter lenses in a range where smaller focal
length differences remain noticeable.

At the wide end Pentax is lacking any fast glass wider than 31mm.
While Pentax lenses are excellent, Pentax really has not provided a
full lens line unless your needs are small but slow primes and/or f2.8
zooms.

-Adam


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Re: PESO - Untitled

2010-01-03 Thread mike wilson

frank theriault wrote:


Can't come up with a good title.  I was walking home about 6 or 8
weeks ago after closing time on a Friday night (actually, Saturday
morning) and saw this couple:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/untitled.html

I don't know if they're already in a relationship (with each other,
that is) or if they just hooked up that night, but my guess is the
latter.  There's an excitement and anticipation in their body language
that I find rather interesting.  If you can think of a title that I
could use, I'd be grateful.


You've given the title yourself.  In case you missed it, here's another 
Frank with some emphasis for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPbu5LtXo4

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Re: PESO 2009 - 215 - GDG

2010-01-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
thank you all for looking and commenting!!
i hope your new years celebrations went well.
may this year prove better than last.

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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Chris Mitchell 
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:


Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this 
fractal-like pattern around a stone.





http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.htm


l

When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be


able to


tell us how it works...


Guernsey... I've often wanted to visit the Channel Islands.  Do you 
recommend them as a destination?  -T


Tim, I can highly recommend Guernsey, Herm and Sark. I've not 
been to Alderney or Jersey (apart from once when we landed 
there because Guernsey was fogged in). Guernsey is a quiet 
place about 9 miles by 5 with great scenery, lovely beaches 
and good food and accommodation. And the people are lovely. 
It's a 50 minute flight from Gatwick and only 25 minutes from 
Southampton.


I have to declare an interest - my wife is from Guernsey and 
we have lots of family and friends there. We go a couple of 
times a year - we spent Christmas there and will go again in 
the summer. 


I detect a PDML meet coming on :-)

Chris



Might be a good idea - it's only £80- return from Gatwick. I could fly out
straight from work on a Friday, back on Sunday. 


Can we fit in a mass visit to 7dayshop?

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Re: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut

2010-01-03 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: paul stenquist

Subject: Re: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut





I see the smiley, and I know this response is tongue in cheek. But I care 
what Peter thinks. I'm not in favor of uninvited alterations to the photos 
of others. Just my opinion. No offense to anyone.


Then don't posting pictures to the web, and certainly don't post pictures to 
a forum of photographers.


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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Under $1500, preferably well under. If that gets a camera and one
 good lens, OK. If it covers two lenses, better yet. BH show $600
 for K-x, so roughly $900 available for lenses.

 Getting one high-grade lens and either buying used for the other
 or waiting to buy it later is possible. So is having one be manual
 focus, perhaps even stop-down metering. I'll be buying in Hong
 Kong, so there are quite a few used options.
 ,,,
 What I have in mind is the classic 35/85 two lens kit.

As time went on shooting with Pentax gear, my equipment needs wound
down to a body, the DA21 and FA43. I don't think I used anything else
for the last year I was working with Pentax gear. The FA43, in
particular, was my all time favorite Pentax lens. It's a little
shorter in equivalent focal length than your 85mm target, but such a
superb lens I don't think you could go wrong with it. I almost kept
the K10D simply so that I could continue to shoot with the 43.

That rolls up to almost exactly $2000 at Adorama, $500 over your target.

Sheesh, both of those Pentax lenses are about $250 more than when I
bought them, each. But you might be able to find one or both of them
on the used market at a lower price.

On the other hand, combining body only, 21 and Voigtländer 58 would
get the total price right down into the $1500 ballpark. Body and two
premium lenses ... way to go. ;-)



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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-03 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:16:30AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit:
 On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
  ...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
  I've put it on line.
  http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/
[snip]
 Seriously, thanks for posting these.  First time I've actually looked
 through all the photos, and I have to say, we're really a talented
 bunch, aren't we?

I found it very reassuring; I haven't got anything even close to the
very best stuff in there, but can plausibly hope to submit something for
the 2010 annual and not drag the median quality down overly far.

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Re: locked and loaded leica

2010-01-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. I've had a roll of film sitting in the Rollei 35S for several months.

About mid-2009, I tried to shoot a roll of film every other week with
one or another of my film cameras. The notion was to consume the
un-refrigerated old film sitting in a drawer. Got through about four
rolls, there are a half-dozen left. Scanned two of them ... both APS.
35mm takes forever to scan because I can't load up the scanner and
tell it to do that in one go.

Got good pictures out of the ones I scanned. Like this one, made with
un-refrigerated Fuji 100 film that expired in 2001 ...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/3690703216_308f608af8_o.jpg

It is such a slow and laborious process. Much as I enjoyed it, I think
most of my film cameras and freezer load of film stocks are now
destined for the Ebay heaven. I'll never use up the film I have in the
freezer. Watch for a film sale soon...

Sad ... I liked some of those cameras very much indeed ... but that
era is no longer alive for me.
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Re: The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 12:40:19AM -0800, Tim Bray scripsit:
[snip]
 What's your number?

Seven.

Only it's not really seven; one of those is a tiger and one of those is
cygnets, and I don't think I will be able to convince myself that I
could submit either without the editors agreeing to dispatch ninja to
slay me for the effrontery.

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 ...who didn't pony up for your own copy of the last PDML photo Annual,
 I've put it on line.
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

 There was a suggestion that I do so at the time the book was
 published, but I think it's better to make this thing hard copy only
 when it first appears. Keep some of the mystery, you know?

 Anyway, it's kind of nice to browse the photos on the web. They may
 appear more saturated and contrasty than they do in the book. That's
 of course due to the nature of the media and that fact that I didn't
 create separately optimized photos for the book and this web page -
 these are print optimized.

Mark,

Have you thought of offering the book as a PDF downloadable book? You
could even lock out printing if you wanted to protect print copy
sales.

I like the webpage, but a local copy in PDF would be my preference.
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Re: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut

2010-01-03 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:00 AM, William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut





I see the smiley, and I know this response is tongue in cheek. But  
I care what Peter thinks. I'm not in favor of uninvited alterations  
to the photos of others. Just my opinion. No offense to anyone.


Then don't posting pictures to the web, and certainly don't post  
pictures to a forum of photographers.


Oh, I'll post. And I'll occasionally offer a revision, but I feel it's  
polite to ask first. What moved me to respond to this posting was the  
I don't care what Peter thinks comment. As I said, I know it was  
tongue in cheek, but perhaps hurtful to the original poster. As I  
said, no offense.



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Re: locked and loaded leica

2010-01-03 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jan 3, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Hmm. I've had a roll of film sitting in the Rollei 35S for several  
months.


About mid-2009, I tried to shoot a roll of film every other week with
one or another of my film cameras. The notion was to consume the
un-refrigerated old film sitting in a drawer. Got through about four
rolls, there are a half-dozen left. Scanned two of them ... both APS.
35mm takes forever to scan because I can't load up the scanner and
tell it to do that in one go.

Got good pictures out of the ones I scanned. Like this one, made with
un-refrigerated Fuji 100 film that expired in 2001 ...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2512/3690703216_308f608af8_o.jpg

It is such a slow and laborious process. Much as I enjoyed it, I think
most of my film cameras and freezer load of film stocks are now
destined for the Ebay heaven. I'll never use up the film I have in the
freezer. Watch for a film sale soon...

Sad ... I liked some of those cameras very much indeed ... but that
era is no longer alive for me.
--


I agree. Definitely not going back to film. I shot a roll several  
years ago in the 6x7, and since this is a slow week for me, I thought  
it might be fun to try one in the Leica. I doubt that I'll scan more  
than one or two frames. Hell, I may not even process the roll, or for  
that matter, finish shooting it:-).

Paul

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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:26:44AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi scripsit:
 On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote:
  Under $1500, preferably well under. If that gets a camera and one
  good lens, OK. If it covers two lenses, better yet. BH show $600
  for K-x, so roughly $900 available for lenses.
 
  Getting one high-grade lens and either buying used for the other
  or waiting to buy it later is possible. So is having one be manual
  focus, perhaps even stop-down metering. I'll be buying in Hong
  Kong, so there are quite a few used options.
  ,,,
  What I have in mind is the classic 35/85 two lens kit.
 
 As time went on shooting with Pentax gear, my equipment needs wound
 down to a body, the DA21 and FA43.

It's a heterodox suggestion, but Sandy could get the DA55-300 for the
long end.  It's not fast but it's a remarkably nice lens image-quality
wise, and would start at the nominal equivalent of the 85-on-full-frame.

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Mark,

Have you thought of offering the book as a PDF downloadable book? You
could even lock out printing if you wanted to protect print copy
sales.

I like the webpage, but a local copy in PDF would be my preference.

That's a good idea. I really don't think having a PDF available at
this point would impact book sales: Anyone likely to buy a book is
going to do so even if they can get a PDF.


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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-03 Thread P N Stenquist
I'd like to have a PDF as well. I don't think it would affect book  
sales as long as it's available only well after the book's release.  
The PDF would provide a nice, potentially permanent digital record.

Paul

On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Mark,

Have you thought of offering the book as a PDF downloadable book? You
could even lock out printing if you wanted to protect print copy
sales.

I like the webpage, but a local copy in PDF would be my preference.


That's a good idea. I really don't think having a PDF available at
this point would impact book sales: Anyone likely to buy a book is
going to do so even if they can get a PDF.


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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread ann sanfedele


AlunFoto wrote:


Well done Chris!
It's difficult to get those patterns right with the typical light
brown sand. Magic light in this one.

Jostein
2010/1/3 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net:
 


Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
fractal-like pattern around a stone.

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html

When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be able to
tell us how it works...

Chris

   

That's a Geology question :-)   Did you remove the stone? or did you 
find it removed?
It looks like a depression, not a rock or shell ...  It looks like you 
are close to the water
and the tide was ebbing and you removed the stone or shell just before 
you took the photo.


30 years ago I could have expounded on the process although fluviation 
was never my strong suit.


Nice shot :-)

ann


 








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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread AlunFoto
Different scale, but eerily similar:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=36.538467,-112.510643spn=0.122889,0.198784t=hz=13

Just West of Kaibab national Forest, Grand Canyon.

Jostein

2010/1/3 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:

 AlunFoto wrote:

 Well done Chris!
 It's difficult to get those patterns right with the typical light
 brown sand. Magic light in this one.

 Jostein
 2010/1/3 Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net:


 Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
 fractal-like pattern around a stone.

 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html

 When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be able
 to
 tell us how it works...

 Chris



 That's a Geology question :-)   Did you remove the stone? or did you find it
 removed?
 It looks like a depression, not a rock or shell ...  It looks like you are
 close to the water
 and the tide was ebbing and you removed the stone or shell just before you
 took the photo.

 30 years ago I could have expounded on the process although fluviation was
 never my strong suit.

 Nice shot :-)

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Re: And for you cheapskates

2010-01-03 Thread Boris Liberman

On 1/3/2010 6:19 PM, P N Stenquist wrote:

I'd like to have a PDF as well. I don't think it would affect book sales
as long as it's available only well after the book's release. The PDF
would provide a nice, potentially permanent digital record.
Paul


Indeed, permanent being the keyword, I'd like to have a PDF copy as well.

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Wild Animal Park - San Diego

2010-01-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
We went for some warm weather and sunshine in San Diego, and
took the family to see the animals.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#5422361187752097474
DA60-250/4 - 60mm plus f5.6 @ 1/1250  ISO 400
(Did I say I really like this lens...)

We went on a 'Photo Safari' - 2+ hours riding on the back of a big
truck in the animal enclosures.
John Francis's pictures on the pdml some 10 years ago got us started with this.
It used to be more serious photographers on the back of a stake backed truck.
Now they have cushions on the benches and a canvas top over the 15 or so riders,
and mainly families with point and shoot cameras.  We took our
daughter-in-law because
she had never been, and remembered pix of feeding the giraffes from the past.
I can still recommend the trip based on the smiles we got.
Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: Wild Animal Park - San Diego

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
That looks like great fun. One of my ambitions is to visit San Diego Zoo
(which I assume is the same as, or part of, the Wild Animal Park) to see the
bonobos.

I love your shot of the rhino:
http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#54223617657463563
70

It looks like Durer's:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/D%C3%BCrer_rhino_full.pn
g 

Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On 
 Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
 Sent: 03 January 2010 17:52
 To: PDML
 Subject: Wild Animal Park - San Diego
 
 We went for some warm weather and sunshine in San Diego, and 
 took the family to see the animals.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#5422
 361187752097474
 DA60-250/4 - 60mm plus f5.6 @ 1/1250  ISO 400 (Did I say I 
 really like this lens...)
 
 We went on a 'Photo Safari' - 2+ hours riding on the back of 
 a big truck in the animal enclosures.
 John Francis's pictures on the pdml some 10 years ago got us 
 started with this.
 It used to be more serious photographers on the back of a 
 stake backed truck.
 Now they have cushions on the benches and a canvas top over 
 the 15 or so riders, and mainly families with point and shoot 
 cameras.  We took our daughter-in-law because she had never 
 been, and remembered pix of feeding the giraffes from the past.
 I can still recommend the trip based on the smiles we got.
 Regards,  Bob S.


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Wild Animal Park - San Diego - (take 2)

2010-01-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Let's try this again with a better breakout on the INTENDED picture


We went for some warm weather and sunshine in San Diego, and
took the family to see the animals.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#5422361187752097474

DA60-250/4 - 60mm plus f5.6 @ 1/1250  ISO 400
(Did I say I really like this lens...)

We went on a 'Photo Safari' - 2+ hours riding on the back of a big
truck in the animal enclosures.  John Francis's pictures on the pdml
some 10 years ago got us started with this.  It used to be more
serious photographers on the back of a stake backed truck.
Now they have cushions on the benches and a canvas top over the 15 or
so riders, and mainly families with point and shoot cameras.  We took
our daughter-in-law because she had never been, and remembered pix of
feeding the giraffes from the past.  I can still recommend the trip
based on the smiles we got.
Regards,  Bob S.

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PESO: Winter Visitor

2010-01-03 Thread John Sessoms

I get a couple of these little guys every year.

Haven't figured out where they're getting in. It's somewhere in the 
basement. The door going down there is always open when I find them.


I open the window over the kitchen sink and they fly out after a couple 
of minutes.


Kept this one about 5 minutes longer than I normally would so I could 
get an acceptable shot. He didn't seem to mind. Hopped down and perched 
on the toe of my boot for a second, then went on about his business.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4240832337/

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Re: Wild Animal Park - San Diego

2010-01-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob,
The Wild Animal Park is a 1,800 acre preserve for the San Diego Zoo.
It's a 45 minute drive from the zoo, but well worth the effort - must
see attractions!
The zoo was the first in the US to use lots of space to show the
animals in natural habitats.
The Wild Animal Park started for breeding purposes, but is more now.
Hope you can get over to see them some day.
It's really fun to ride among the big animals, even just to take
family snaps. :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That looks like great fun. One of my ambitions is to visit San Diego Zoo
 (which I assume is the same as, or part of, the Wild Animal Park) to see the
 bonobos.

 I love your shot of the rhino:
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#5422361765746356370

 It looks like Durer's:
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/D%C3%BCrer_rhino_full.png

 Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
 Behalf Of Bob Sullivan
 Sent: 03 January 2010 17:52
 To: PDML
 Subject: Wild Animal Park - San Diego

 We went for some warm weather and sunshine in San Diego, and
 took the family to see the animals.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#5422
 361187752097474
 DA60-250/4 - 60mm plus f5.6 @ 1/1250  ISO 400 (Did I say I
 really like this lens...)

 We went on a 'Photo Safari' - 2+ hours riding on the back of
 a big truck in the animal enclosures.
 John Francis's pictures on the pdml some 10 years ago got us
 started with this.
 It used to be more serious photographers on the back of a
 stake backed truck.
 Now they have cushions on the benches and a canvas top over
 the 15 or so riders, and mainly families with point and shoot
 cameras.  We took our daughter-in-law because she had never
 been, and remembered pix of feeding the giraffes from the past.
 I can still recommend the trip based on the smiles we got.
 Regards,  Bob S.


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RE: The answer is 39

2010-01-03 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tim Bray

I just know you're doing this too.  I saw the email about next year's
annual + gallery + trip to Chicago, bowed ritually in the direction of
the God-like organizers, and later that evening, I had to take the
quickest-possible trip through all the 2009 photos thinking Well,
maybe and tossing those into a PDML-candidates
folder/collection/whatever-your-workflow-calls-it.

Then I took one pass through tossing the ones that were great concepts
but lame photos and ended up with... 39.

What's your number?


Two. Maybe ... one's a little shaky and I'm not sure about the other.

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Re: PESO: Winter Visitor

2010-01-03 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 01:12:26PM -0500, John Sessoms scripsit:
 I get a couple of these little guys every year.

 Haven't figured out where they're getting in. It's somewhere in the  
 basement. The door going down there is always open when I find them.

Carolina wren, from the look of the photo; they're ground-feeding
crevice nesters, which probably means they keep finding some gap into
your basement.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4240832337/

Compositionally unobjectionable but I'd still rather see more bird and
less bag!

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Re: Sand patterns

2010-01-03 Thread John Sessoms

From: Chris Mitchell

Water draining across the sand on the falling tide has made this
fractal-like pattern around a stone.

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/GuernseyChristmas09/slides/_IGP1629.html

When we find the PDML physics professor, perhaps she or he will be able to
tell us how it works...


Looks like some strange, branching tentacle like manipulator has it in 
its grasp. Possibly a tidal reach?


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Re: Wild Animal Park - San Diego

2010-01-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

One of my ambitions is to visit San Diego Zoo...to see the
bonobos

Quicker to pop over to France, they have loads there.

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RE: Wild Animal Park - San Diego

2010-01-03 Thread Bob W
 On 3/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 One of my ambitions is to visit San Diego Zoo...to see the bonobos
 
 Quicker to pop over to France, they have loads there.
 

That's just the normal people.

Bob


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PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Mark,

Have you thought of offering the book as a PDF downloadable book? You
could even lock out printing if you wanted to protect print copy
sales.

I like the webpage, but a local copy in PDF would be my preference.

That's a good idea. I really don't think having a PDF available at
this point would impact book sales: Anyone likely to buy a book is
going to do so even if they can get a PDF.

On line now: http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/pdf/book2008.pdf
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Re: PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)

2010-01-03 Thread paul stenquist
Wow! That was fast.
Looks great. Thanks much.
Paul

On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 Mark,
 
 Have you thought of offering the book as a PDF downloadable book? You
 could even lock out printing if you wanted to protect print copy
 sales.
 
 I like the webpage, but a local copy in PDF would be my preference.
 
 That's a good idea. I really don't think having a PDF available at
 this point would impact book sales: Anyone likely to buy a book is
 going to do so even if they can get a PDF.
 
 On line now: http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/pdf/book2008.pdf
 10 Megabytes - not recommended for the bandwidth-impaired :)
 
 
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Re: PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Roberts
paul stenquist wrote:

Wow! That was fast.
Looks great. Thanks much.

I basically just converted the web site into a PDF. Quick and dirty
but good enough.

 On line now: http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/pdf/book2008.pdf
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Re: Wild Animal Park - San Diego - (take 2)

2010-01-03 Thread paul stenquist
Excellent! I like the repetition of the giraffe in the background. Nice 
composition.
Paul
On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Let's try this again with a better breakout on the INTENDED picture
 
 
 We went for some warm weather and sunshine in San Diego, and
 took the family to see the animals.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#5422361187752097474
 
 DA60-250/4 - 60mm plus f5.6 @ 1/1250  ISO 400
 (Did I say I really like this lens...)
 
 We went on a 'Photo Safari' - 2+ hours riding on the back of a big
 truck in the animal enclosures.  John Francis's pictures on the pdml
 some 10 years ago got us started with this.  It used to be more
 serious photographers on the back of a stake backed truck.
 Now they have cushions on the benches and a canvas top over the 15 or
 so riders, and mainly families with point and shoot cameras.  We took
 our daughter-in-law because she had never been, and remembered pix of
 feeding the giraffes from the past.  I can still recommend the trip
 based on the smiles we got.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
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Re: PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)

2010-01-03 Thread Dario Bonazza

Sorry, I got a 404.

Dario

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Subject: PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)



Mark Roberts wrote:


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Mark,

Have you thought of offering the book as a PDF downloadable book? You
could even lock out printing if you wanted to protect print copy
sales.

I like the webpage, but a local copy in PDF would be my preference.


That's a good idea. I really don't think having a PDF available at
this point would impact book sales: Anyone likely to buy a book is
going to do so even if they can get a PDF.


On line now: http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/pdf/book2008.pdf
10 Megabytes - not recommended for the bandwidth-impaired :)


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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:

 It's a heterodox suggestion, but Sandy could get the DA55-300 for the
 long end.  It's not fast but it's a remarkably nice lens image-quality
 wise, and would start at the nominal equivalent of the 85-on-full-frame.

 -- Graydon


3 stops slower, much larger and no cheaper than the 58 Nokton. And
inferior IQ as well (The Nokton is superb, the DA55-300 merely quite
good).

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Re: PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)

2010-01-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Pretty darn good for a quickie!

There's one page ... Faith ... that seems a bit weird. Otherwise it
all works perty well.

Godfrey

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Mark Roberts wrote:

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Mark,

Have you thought of offering the book as a PDF downloadable book? You
could even lock out printing if you wanted to protect print copy
sales.

I like the webpage, but a local copy in PDF would be my preference.

That's a good idea. I really don't think having a PDF available at
this point would impact book sales: Anyone likely to buy a book is
going to do so even if they can get a PDF.

 On line now: http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/pdf/book2008.pdf
 10 Megabytes - not recommended for the bandwidth-impaired :)


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Re: Wide angle for K-X?

2010-01-03 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 02:12:54PM -0500, Adam Maas scripsit:
 On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:
  It's a heterodox suggestion, but Sandy could get the DA55-300 for the
  long end.  It's not fast but it's a remarkably nice lens image-quality
  wise, and would start at the nominal equivalent of the 85-on-full-frame.
 
 3 stops slower, much larger and no cheaper than the 58 Nokton. And
 inferior IQ as well (The Nokton is superb, the DA55-300 merely quite
 good).

Granted, but also potentially longer (if 58mm was seeming short),
auto-focus, and quick shift.

-- Graydon

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Re: Wild Animal Park - San Diego - (take 2)

2010-01-03 Thread David J Brooks
Nice gallery.

I like the rino shots. They have one at the Toronto zoo, but he is all
by him self and rarely comes out of the corner.
The giraffe gallery is nice to see.

Are you using the 60-250 with a K7 or K20 Bob. Those shots are veru
clean which ever.

Dave

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let's try this again with a better breakout on the INTENDED picture


 We went for some warm weather and sunshine in San Diego, and
 took the family to see the animals.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/FeedingTheAnimals#5422361187752097474

 DA60-250/4 - 60mm plus f5.6 @ 1/1250  ISO 400
 (Did I say I really like this lens...)

 We went on a 'Photo Safari' - 2+ hours riding on the back of a big
 truck in the animal enclosures.  John Francis's pictures on the pdml
 some 10 years ago got us started with this.  It used to be more
 serious photographers on the back of a stake backed truck.
 Now they have cushions on the benches and a canvas top over the 15 or
 so riders, and mainly families with point and shoot cameras.  We took
 our daughter-in-law because she had never been, and remembered pix of
 feeding the giraffes from the past.  I can still recommend the trip
 based on the smiles we got.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Pretty darn good for a quickie!

There's one page ... Faith ... that seems a bit weird. 

Oops: Fixed. Download it again.

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Re: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut

2010-01-03 Thread Rick Womer
Peter,

I really liked this the first time, and I still do!

Which reminds me, for some reason:  You had a great series of shots of a 
run-down abandoned Connecticut shoreline community a few months ago, and 
promised to reveal its identity.

Sooo...  where was it?

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO -- Surf Club, Madison, Connecticut
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 3:23 PM
 So yes, this is sort of a
 rerun.  Originally shot in 2005 with my *ist-D.  A
 brand new conversion with Pentax's Digital Camera Utility
 4, the interface is mostly livable, and it runs on my OS of
 choice, not officially but it runs there anyway.
 
 I didn't have a lot of inspiration last year and I'm
 thinking of submitting this to the annual.  A lot of
 people seemed to think this was an exceptional work at the
 time.  So unless I can find something I like better...
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20surfclubmadisonct.html
 
 Equipment:  Pentax *ist-D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm
 f4.0.
 
 Notes:  Some minor correction for barrel distortion in
 PDCU4, and a bit of perspective correction in Photoshop.
 
 --
 {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0
 Courier New;}}
 \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to
 Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par
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Re: PESO - Pensive

2010-01-03 Thread Rick Womer
Excellent. I like having the focus on the right eye.

Rick

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 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Pensive
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:47 PM
 Was out celebrating New Years Eve
 with my middle daughter at (of all
 places) a local bar called the Bovine Sex Club.  The
 feature band was
 called Creepshow.  I got very few pix of the band, as
 a mosh pit was
 happening, and when I got close to the stage I tend to get
 jostled too
 much to shoot in low light with slow shutter speed.
 
 So I spent lots of time photographing the young people
 around the bar.
  This young lady seemed especially pensive.  I know, I
 focused on the
 wrong eye (wish I'd caught that front eye) but I still
 rather like
 this one:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/pensive.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.  Now off to
 process more of last
 night's festivities.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 
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Re: PDF! (was: And for you cheapskates)

2010-01-03 Thread Dario Bonazza

Sorry, I got a 404.

Dario


Now succeeded. Great!

Dario

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PESO - Light Saber

2010-01-03 Thread gldnbearz
A young fellow contemplates his light saber.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jlKZzyytrL8Kt5geE5y0WQ?feat=directlink

Moments later, he was mimicking moves from Star Wars. =)

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Short tele complement to DA16-45?

2010-01-03 Thread gldnbearz
Let's say you have a DA16-45.  Love the colors, love the 16mm, don't
mind the reverse zoom ring, but it's just a *little* short at 45mm.
Already have the DA 55-300 or 50-135.

Options for when I don't want to use the long tele zooms (usually I'm
indoors  need just a little more reach, but I can't walk up to the
subject):
1) get a DA 17-70 to replace 16-45 (pros: longer zoom range, SDM
quietness, same constant f/4 as the 16-45, has a normal zoom ring,
has a rebate since I bought the K-7; cons: heavier  larger than the
16-45, it's SDM only; long term SDM reliability, some users complain
of softness btwn 50-70mm)

2) get a DA 70 (pros: small size, complements the DA 21  DA40,
slightly better in low light at f/2.4; cons: funky lens cap/hood
combination, price?)

If you have the DA16-45, what is your short tele option? I'm not
looking to replace the 16-45; it works and it's been a great bang for
the buck.  I've been going back  forth on this for a bit and would
like to see what others think.

TIA,
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PESO - Boxing Day2

2010-01-03 Thread gldnbearz
Another image from my day after Christmas walk-about Union Square.
Having spent four years along Berkeley's Telegraph Avenue and
frequented both the pizza  record store there, this image is a bit
like Berkeley icons merged with my home town.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Nn-R2KLB88M/S0D-l6QprmI/BE0/g3qyBYBjYKY/s800/IMGP0533.JPG

- Pat

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Re: Short tele complement to DA16-45?

2010-01-03 Thread paul stenquist
DA 70
On Jan 3, 2010, at 3:29 PM, gldnbearz wrote:

 Let's say you have a DA16-45.  Love the colors, love the 16mm, don't
 mind the reverse zoom ring, but it's just a *little* short at 45mm.
 Already have the DA 55-300 or 50-135.
 
 Options for when I don't want to use the long tele zooms (usually I'm
 indoors  need just a little more reach, but I can't walk up to the
 subject):
 1) get a DA 17-70 to replace 16-45 (pros: longer zoom range, SDM
 quietness, same constant f/4 as the 16-45, has a normal zoom ring,
 has a rebate since I bought the K-7; cons: heavier  larger than the
 16-45, it's SDM only; long term SDM reliability, some users complain
 of softness btwn 50-70mm)
 
 2) get a DA 70 (pros: small size, complements the DA 21  DA40,
 slightly better in low light at f/2.4; cons: funky lens cap/hood
 combination, price?)
 
 If you have the DA16-45, what is your short tele option? I'm not
 looking to replace the 16-45; it works and it's been a great bang for
 the buck.  I've been going back  forth on this for a bit and would
 like to see what others think.
 
 TIA,
 Pat
 
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