Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
2010/3/10 Miserere miser...@gmail.com: OK, so how many people are going to order one (apart from Jostein)? My commitment yet is not to order one. Just to start saving up. If it's still the same model, or even still on the market, when I've scraped enough together... Well, that's anyone's guess. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 655D no kidding
2010/3/10 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: er six FORTY five Who cares. The truth is somewhere around 443 anyway. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Where is Paal when one needs him? ;-) Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
2010/3/10 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Where is Paal when one needs him? ;-) Haven't heard from him in a good while. Maybe he realised his dream of buying a sailboat and circumnavigate? -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 655D no kidding
On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Tim Bray wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/pentax-gets-official-with-40-megapixel-645d-medium-format-camera/ I'm drooling. Is Cotty salivating? I don't remember if medium format counts in the hat-eating stakes. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
2010/3/10 jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp A thought just occurred to me regarding the Japan-only availability... Bet it's a matter of throughput on the assembly line more than anything else. This is the sort of camera that's more of a long-term seller, so a small and slow but high-quality assembly makes more sense than flooding the market with a big-batch-and-be-done-with-it approach. Well... more sense to me anyway. And bless the Japanese customers for rooting out bugs of the v1.00 firmware. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 9/3/10, jtainter, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp Looks like you have to supply your own winding handle on the left: http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/1003/pentax/645D_cross_back.jpg -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 10/03/2010, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/10 Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it: Where is Paal when one needs him? ;-) Haven't heard from him in a good while. Maybe he realised his dream of buying a sailboat and circumnavigate? He poast on DPR a bit, last post 1 week ago though, he's still a cheerleader for the 645, someone has to do it! http://www.dpreview.com/members/8455820835 -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: I'm wondering what the files sizes are that come out of this thing? They must be huge. Even if you have some 645 lenses hanging about AND you can afford this camera, you'll most likely need to upgrade your storage just to save all of your keepers. Not to mention upping the ram to handle rendering and image processing. I wonder if the hidden costs of this camera system might be a big ouchie. 40MP at 16 bits per channel would be nearly 250Mb. I think my 6x7 scans were only slightly larger and 3Gb was plenty to edit those. Any half-decent modern computer should be fine. Eat or buy ink and paper for all of the 30 x 40 posters you'll be making? I'd probably send prints of that scale out to a good lab. We could all stand to lose a few pounds ...right? I need to gain a few. Weightlifting cameras would be a very satisfactory method :) If I win the lottery I'll buy one... I'd love to photograph some nice scenic adventure sport and something like this would be fantastic. I really should drag the 6x7 out sometime, US$10k would buy a lot of film. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 9/3/10, jtainter, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp One thing confuses me. It's a 645D - yet the sensor size means that it's really a 433D or thereabouts. So existing 645 lenses will be crippled by the same 1.5x crop factor that the K-7 and it's earlier siblings have? So a serious landscape photographer who had what once was a fabulous wide angle on his film Pentax 645 will now have a fabulous not-so-wide and have to buy an even wider lens to compensate if he/she wants more of the same? Sure, things open up in the telephoto end, but for 'MF' digital, surely the wider end is more important? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 655D no kidding
On 10/3/10, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: Is Cotty salivating? I don't remember if medium format counts in the hat-eating stakes. Not at all. I would be interested in a 36X24mm sensor K mount body. In terms of self-preservation, my hat is happy with the current lineup. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
2010/3/10 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: He poast on DPR a bit, last post 1 week ago though, he's still a cheerleader for the 645, someone has to do it! Great to hear he's still active. No fault of Paal's, but I can't bear the noise level over at dpreview anymore... :-( Bet he'll beat me to it, getting a 645D... :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Cotty wrote: One thing confuses me. It's a 645D - yet the sensor size means that it's really a 433D or thereabouts. So existing 645 lenses will be crippled by the same 1.5x crop factor that the K-7 and it's earlier siblings have? Perhaps it's more of a 1.2x crop factor over 645 film. The new D-FA 55mm matches a 43.5mm lens in 35mm format, or a 65mm on 645 film. So a serious landscape photographer who had what once was a fabulous wide angle on his film Pentax 645 will now have a fabulous not-so-wide and have to buy an even wider lens to compensate if he/she wants more of the same? Yes, but not as much as it happens with FF vs. APS. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
2010/3/10 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: Sure, things open up in the telephoto end, but for 'MF' digital, surely the wider end is more important? I agree. The first lens to be launched with the new cam is a 55mm, a focal length that was never ported to AF in the film days. I bet the next lens will be a WA. OTOH, both the 35mm/3.5 and the 33-55mm zoom are top-notch quality lenses with next to no geometric distortion. With a more slow paced mode of work as the MedF invites, stitching could be a very viable option while waiting for the WA. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/10 jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp A thought just occurred to me regarding the Japan-only availability... Bet it's a matter of throughput on the assembly line more than anything else. For a pro-level camera a manufacturer needs a pro-level service. They had this pro-level service for decades until last year when Hoya decided they'd make more profit by outsourcing it. You simply can't sell someone a 8000 euro camera and then ask him or her to wait for weeks or even months when it needs to be repared. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I think it will attract pros moving up from full frame. Pros need the kind of pro service that Hoya have just closed down, all over Europe. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
Tomek Machnik tru...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 March 2010 22:23, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: I really _must_ particpate in one of your escapades, one day. I volunteer to join in - Germany isn't that far, so when you go, let me know - we could have a PDML mud meet! Keep me in mind, too. I've been trying to figure out where I want to go next, and I've never been to that region before. Welcome to .pl, home of PDML lurking darksiders, bubble wrap, old jeeps and side effects of photosynthesis :) I will gladly take a few days off to help arrange a meeting here. I'm in Krakow, some say it's THE destination in .pl USED to be. Until all those foreign tourists turned up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
2010/3/10 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: For a pro-level camera a manufacturer needs a pro-level service. They had this pro-level service for decades until last year when Hoya decided they'd make more profit by outsourcing it. In Norway, it's the same people doing it under a different company title. I don't have a problem with that. I also notice that for certain types of service, even the most dominating brands ship the cameras to Japan. Local affiliates are never allowed to serve the whole range of problems. So what you're essentially talking about is a service where you can have a replacement on loan while your own camera is away, regardless of whether it takes a couple of hours or a month. The salient question is whose responsibility it is to provide you with that. There exists a third party marketplace for selling this kind of service as part of an insurance packet, so it's hardly a Pentax-only thing. There's pro-level for you... :-) I would rather have it that reputable dealers manage the service. A pro-dealer that manage the service order towards Pentax, and give the customer a good replacement meanwhile. I may be lucky, but in Norway there _is_ a dealer like that. They used to be the national distributor, but now titulate themselves a Pentax Pro-dealer. Needless to say, they get all my business despite the fact that I'm not a pro. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
FWIW regarding hardware support for cameras, if my Sony TV camera breaks down (not happened yet in over three years) I take it to be repaired at a private company specializing in same, my dealer. I have insurance cover that allows me a replacement (hire cost for similar gear is about 150 GBP per day). My dealer has a workshop with 3 or 4 technicians who repair and service TV cameras. Stills colleagues have similar arrangements but it's less of an issue as most have 3 or 4 cameras and can weather one of them being away for a few of days. From my perspective, I would never try and deal direct with the manufacturer, just too much time wasted. My scenario for if and when the camera does break down, would be to drive it straight to the dealer on the outskirts of London and drop it off for repair, arrange replacement on the phone in transit, hopefully picking up at dealer or elsewhere. Downtime might be half a day. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
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Re: Fwd: IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions Beginning Next Year
2010/3/10 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: And so the screws are tightened. yeah and even tight ends are screwed... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday - *istD plus accessories
Hi Adam, This is good to know. I have plans of my K10D becoming an IR camera once it is retired from active use. I have 2 *istD's which one day will become a stereo camera setup. I have no idea what I will do with my old digitals after that. I may need to stop buying new ones. Leon On 7 March 2010 09:51, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Yes, the *ist series and K1xD series are all far more sensitive to IR than later cameras. IR sensitivity in digital is nomally not a good thing as it causes colour issues, especially in mixed-material blacks -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
On 10 March 2010 12:08, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: But... they built you that lovely palace! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw Little jealous, aren't you :) Sadly, they forgot to take the thing back, with their tanks and nukes. tm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
645D has got its own website
Found the link on the teaser page: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/645d/top.html -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
On 10 March 2010 11:03, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I will gladly take a few days off to help arrange a meeting here. I'm in Krakow, some say it's THE destination in .pl USED to be. Until all those foreign tourists turned up. Rrright. Bloody foreigners. :)) A few more won't make a difference. Come on :) Speaking of which, how is the Polish invasion going on there? tm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon) LOL Pentax is onto a money maker. This is kinda the conundrum with camera makers these days. They put as nice a camera on the market as they can, and people will refuse to buy it until the price comes down 50%. It's like we want them to go out of business. Going to digital capture, with the business model of a one year life for products at best, makes that a self-inflicted wound. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has got its own website
AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Found the link on the teaser page: http://www.camera-pentax.jp/645d/top.html More a construction site than a website. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has got its own website
On 10/03/2010, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote: More a construction site than a website. I guess they were a bit rushed? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:08 AM, David Savage wrote: More a case of being concerned that the path is coming to an end. I doubt that it will. The investment says otherwise. Furthermore, there's already a strong lens lineup for the camera. It's good to go without a lot of support down the line. Paul On 10/03/2010, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage Subject: Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon) Given the somewhat fragile economic viability of Hoyas camera division, I'd in no way want to drop 10k on their products nowadays. Afraid there'll be no upgrade path? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has got its own website
Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I guess they were a bit rushed? With a mere 5-years' notice... Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cellist on Augusta - wider crop
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:04 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: No brainer! Go with this one. No problems around the cig area and plenty of crop options..it would seem.(?) Going to agree here Frank. Opinions seem to go both ways on this one. I'm still not sure which I prefer, but I think I'm done with it in any case. I don't think either image is strong enough to worry much more about. Thanks all for the input. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday - *istD plus accessories
Well I'll need a month or two to raise the necessary funds but I may buy if it is still there (please don't hold it for me though, it is a firm MAY) Cheers Ecke 2010/3/5 Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca: I'm selling my *istD, battery grip, CF cards, NiMH batteries and charger. Beautiful condition, less than 3200 actuations. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Pentax-istD-DSLR-accessories-W0QQAdIdZ177848717 Price for PDML people is $250...Canadian funds if you are in Canada, US funds if you are somewhere else. Shipping is extra. Thanks! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cellist on Augusta
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: I messed with this a little with the burn dodge tools based on some of the suggestions and came up with this. Scroll down for the original. Will remove in 24 hours unless you request sooner, Frank. Bob W's right - it's the cigarette that really makes it. http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage.htm Hmmm... Now it's a John Deer tractor. With no cellist in sight. Could you send it to me off-list, Paul? I guess I didn't get to it in time... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cellist on Augusta
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/03/cellist-on-augusta.html What a disappointment! I was expecting a photo of a cellist on an MV Augusta F4 (motorcycle) :( (Nice shot, Frank.) Thanks, Mark, and thanks to everyone else who provided an opinion on this one. Much appreciated... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
2010/3/10 Tomek Machnik tru...@gmail.com: [...] A few more won't make a difference. Come on :) [...] OK let's all buy stormtrooper K-xen and invade Poland right back =) HYPER HYPER (in case you know Scooter... rotfl) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has got its own website
2010/3/10 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I guess they were a bit rushed? With a mere 5-years' notice... Don't believe everything you read in a google-translated web page. Notice that the availability says mid-october 5. Use numbers for months, and you get mid-10.5. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: From my perspective, I would never try and deal direct with the manufacturer, just too much time wasted. Under UK law the manufacturer could tell you to go run up a shutter, anyway. Your contract is with the retailer to provide goods of merchantable quality, which has always been taken to mean fit for purpose. Equipment bought as being of professional standard would be expected to perform to a higher level in whatever you choose (e.g. durability) than that described as some other standard. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has got its own website
That gives folks a long time to save, thus stifling some interim sales. Too much for sustained salivation. ;) Jack --- On Wed, 3/10/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: 645D has got its own website To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 5:01 AM 2010/3/10 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I guess they were a bit rushed? With a mere 5-years' notice... Don't believe everything you read in a google-translated web page. Notice that the availability says mid-october 5. Use numbers for months, and you get mid-10.5. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 10/3/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Under UK law the manufacturer could tell you to go run up a shutter, anyway. Your contract is with the retailer to provide goods of merchantable quality, which has always been taken to mean fit for purpose. Equipment bought as being of professional standard would be expected to perform to a higher level in whatever you choose (e.g. durability) than that described as some other standard. Understood. Sorry, I didn't make it clear enough that I was referring to an out-of-warranty scenario. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
Tomek Machnik tru...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 March 2010 12:08, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: But... they built you that lovely palace! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw Little jealous, aren't you :) I think every town should have one. They didn't have the bottle to do it in KRK. You had to make do with a steelworks. Sadly, they forgot to take the thing back, with their tanks and nukes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
Tomek Machnik tru...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 March 2010 11:03, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: I will gladly take a few days off to help arrange a meeting here. I'm in Krakow, some say it's THE destination in .pl USED to be. Until all those foreign tourists turned up. Rrright. Bloody foreigners. :)) A few more won't make a difference. Come on :) Speaking of which, how is the Polish invasion going on there? The tide seems to be going out. You should be able to get some plumbing done at last. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always on-topic: What the Duck
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: For Sunday, March 7th: http://www.whattheduck.net/strip/174-sunday I don't get it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
I'd take the weight if I had the money. Studio and Nature stuff, with a a Kx in your pocket for the occasional rock star. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:04 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: It'll be to big and heavy for most PDML'ers. On 10/03/2010, jtainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon) I wonder, however, what it would take for Pentax to make a mirrorless, short register, EVIL, version of the the 645D, that could use either K- mount or 645 mount lenses. A rewrite of the laws of physics would be a good place to start. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
I'll get right on it. Would you prefer quantum mechanics or relativity to be violated? On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon) I wonder, however, what it would take for Pentax to make a mirrorless, short register, EVIL, version of the the 645D, that could use either K- mount or 645 mount lenses. A rewrite of the laws of physics would be a good place to start. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/10 Tomek Machnik tru...@gmail.com: [...] A few more won't make a difference. Come on :) [...] OK let's all buy stormtrooper K-xen and invade Poland right back =) That's KXs banned on at least transAtlantic flights, now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always on-topic: What the Duck
frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: For Sunday, March 7th: http://www.whattheduck.net/strip/174-sunday I don't get it. It's about measurbating. You wouldn't and that's a good thing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has its own website
--- On Wed, 3/10/10, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com Subject: Re: 645D has got its own website To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 5:01 AM 2010/3/10 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: I guess they were a bit rushed? With a mere 5-years' notice... Don't believe everything you read in a google-translated web page. Notice that the availability says mid-october 5. Use numbers for months, and you get mid-10.5. This seems a little early, though. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/645d/photo/04.jpg (Probably some megabytes link) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
2010/3/10 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: That's KXs banned on at least transAtlantic flights, now. you must be talking of a plastic explosive of the same name... ]=) I'll just say I'm a k-xen buddhist and it is a meditative aid... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cellist on Augusta
2010/3/10 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: Now it's a John Deer tractor. With no cellist in sight. and no grandpa either... what a bummer :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Always on-topic: What the Duck
010/3/10 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: I don't get it. gearfaggotry. (word from an image linked in a post here some time ago) some or often times gets in the way of photography cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Longing for Film
No but isn't this ironic... next thing you know you'll have a CD player with a built-in vinyl effect preamp... 2010/3/10 Tom C caka...@gmail.com: Over the past several years I've scanned and reviewed earlier scanned images I've made. There is something about them that's undefinable and draws me to them over my digitally captured images. I can't say what it is. Possibly a sense of being closer to reality, in the same vein that I recognize an analog record as sounding better than a CD? Possibly the smoothness of film across the dynamic range? I don't know. Unless I were able to take side-by-side film vs. digitally captured images in the same format, using the same lens, it would be difficult to make an objective comparison. So subjectively, as far as image quality is concerned, I'm tending to lean towards film... though it's obviously a dead end. I hope to scan quite a number of film images captured from the past ten years and subjectively, of course, compare them to my overall sense of digitally captured images. Partially responsible for making me think along these lines, is a recent advert from Alien Skin Exposure 2, a film simulator plug-in. http://tinyurl.com/yz2zybg Does anyone have any experience with it? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
I make the 'crop factor' (if you will) on the 645D to be 1.36x - can anyone confirm this? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
From: Tom C @ what price? I think the target has been under $10,000 all along and somewhere I think I saw $9400 mentioned. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 9/3/10, jtainter, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp One thing confuses me. It's a 645D - yet the sensor size means that it's really a 433D or thereabouts. So existing 645 lenses will be crippled by the same 1.5x crop factor that the K-7 and it's earlier siblings have? So a serious landscape photographer who had what once was a fabulous wide angle on his film Pentax 645 will now have a fabulous not-so-wide and have to buy an even wider lens to compensate if he/she wants more of the same? Sure, things open up in the telephoto end, but for 'MF' digital, surely the wider end is more important? -- Cheers, Cotty It's a 1.3x crop factor, pretty much standard for MF Digital. There's only one 645 Full-frame sensor on the market, the 60MP sensor in the PhaseOne P65+ back and the last I'd heard that was a custom job for PhaseOne and not available to other vendors, even if it was, it would probably have doubled the cost of the 645D. Everyone else except Leica is using either 1.3x or 1.1x crop sensors, depending on availability and cost (every back maker switches between the two sizes). Leica is using their own, slightly smaller 3:2 aspect format. Given that the 645D-FA lenses remain able to cover 645, I expect Pentax to move up to full-frame sensors when there are economic options available. I'd expect Pentax to launch a 28mm lens for the 645 if body sales are robust. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Longing for Film
I like shooting film (BW, in the LX with the FA 31mm f1.8), I even like developing it. It's the scanning of film that I hate with a fundamentalist passion. On 10 March 2010 11:11, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Over the past several years I've scanned and reviewed earlier scanned images I've made. There is something about them that's undefinable and draws me to them over my digitally captured images. I can't say what it is. Possibly a sense of being closer to reality, in the same vein that I recognize an analog record as sounding better than a CD? Possibly the smoothness of film across the dynamic range? I don't know. Unless I were able to take side-by-side film vs. digitally captured images in the same format, using the same lens, it would be difficult to make an objective comparison. So subjectively, as far as image quality is concerned, I'm tending to lean towards film... though it's obviously a dead end. I hope to scan quite a number of film images captured from the past ten years and subjectively, of course, compare them to my overall sense of digitally captured images. Partially responsible for making me think along these lines, is a recent advert from Alien Skin Exposure 2, a film simulator plug-in. http://tinyurl.com/yz2zybg Does anyone have any experience with it? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 10/3/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a 1.3x crop factor, pretty much standard for MF Digital. Thanks Adam. There's only one 645 Full-frame sensor on the market, the 60MP sensor in the PhaseOne P65+ back and the last I'd heard that was a custom job for PhaseOne and not available to other vendors, even if it was, it would probably have doubled the cost of the 645D. Everyone else except Leica is using either 1.3x or 1.1x crop sensors, depending on availability and cost (every back maker switches between the two sizes). Leica is using their own, slightly smaller 3:2 aspect format. 1.3x is reasonable. I found using the 1.3x crop 1D mark II very comfortable and didn't have to sway too much with existing lenses to get what I wanted. The K15mm on that camera was formidable. Given that the 645D-FA lenses remain able to cover 645, I expect Pentax to move up to full-frame sensors when there are economic options available. My hat is due to retire in 2025 so better be quick. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has got its own website
I believe Jostein is correct. Mid-May 2010 would be the correct translation. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 655D no kidding
I love this line: ...unlike similar options from Hasselblad, this one won't actually destroy your hopes of sending four generations of offspring to college. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/pentax-gets-official-with-40-megapixel-645d-medium-format-camera/ Some big numbers there. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
From: Tom C Respectful question. When I buy a used GM, Ford, or Chrysler automobile, how much does that help the manufacturer today? Aftermarket parts are profitable, I agree. But if I can purchase a used camera/car at 1/2 price, will I ever make up the difference in parts? I can't say for sure, but I bought my used FORD from a FORD dealer. I'm pretty sure my buying the used one facilitated them selling a new one to some extent. It really works in reverse, in selling the new one they acquired the used one to sell, but I helped 'em move inventory off the lot. Of course that's the FORD dealer and not the FORD corporation, but I guess some of it flows back to the corporation. For the car maker business model to work like the camera maker business model, it would be like if the car dealer sold you a body that takes interchangeable drive-trains. I bought the body with a the basic 4-cyl FWD (kit lens), but there's an electric drive-train (wide angle), a V8 4WD drive-train (telephoto), and a low-rider stunt drive-train with all the hydraulics to enter the car dance competitions (macro-zoom). And because of backwards compatibility, they'll all fit that used FORD I bought ... but Damn! I'm gonna' need a bigger bag to carry all that stuff around. Anyway ... Don't know if it's true, but I read somewhere the camera is just a vehicle for them to sell lenses, because that's where the higher profit margin is. You buy one camera and you end up buying more lenses. And the main impetus for the 645D to come on the used market is going to have to be from pros upgrading to the 645D II, don't you think? Have to wait and see I guess. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:52:02 +0100 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/10 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: That's KXs banned on at least transAtlantic flights, now. you must be talking of a plastic explosive of the same name... ]=) I'll just say I'm a k-xen buddhist and it is a meditative aid... Current security policy provides a special bonus for buddhist. Series of free* electric shocks, to help you meditate deeper. *terms and conditions apply I have no chance to fly anywhere since going darkside. - What's in the bag, sir? - It's a small canon... [with foreign accent] - BZZ (an onomatopoeia for being electrocuted) tm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - By the Window
From: Christine Aguila I like it very much too, Frank. I don't know why, but your picture makes feel think it was taken in France years ago--though the woman's hair doesn't quite fit that time period--the color streak in her bangs. But hey, I like it. Good rendering too. Cheers, Christine It is, how you say?, to laugh! It couldn't possibly feel ... it was taken in France years ago because Frank idolizes HCB and emulates him in every possible way. I think you just made Frank's day. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Fwd: IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions
IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions Beginning Next Year http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abu/y210/m03/abu0258/s03 Anyone running an eBay store doing more than $20,000 a year ought to be paying their taxes. Don't see where this is really going to affect the occasional eBay seller. Only cause for discontent I can come up with is why ain't they going after tax cheats doing $20 BILLION dollars a year with the same vigor? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
It would be funny if Pentax just hung there with the MF and DX sensors. Funny in the sense of PDML threads, that is. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 10/3/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a 1.3x crop factor, pretty much standard for MF Digital. Thanks Adam. There's only one 645 Full-frame sensor on the market, the 60MP sensor in the PhaseOne P65+ back and the last I'd heard that was a custom job for PhaseOne and not available to other vendors, even if it was, it would probably have doubled the cost of the 645D. Everyone else except Leica is using either 1.3x or 1.1x crop sensors, depending on availability and cost (every back maker switches between the two sizes). Leica is using their own, slightly smaller 3:2 aspect format. 1.3x is reasonable. I found using the 1.3x crop 1D mark II very comfortable and didn't have to sway too much with existing lenses to get what I wanted. The K15mm on that camera was formidable. Given that the 645D-FA lenses remain able to cover 645, I expect Pentax to move up to full-frame sensors when there are economic options available. My hat is due to retire in 2025 so better be quick. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW9 - Monopoly
Dag, I like everything about this pic except the big, black center of it, which could use some digital dodging. One might also brighten the boys' faces a bit. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 3/7/10, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: From: DagT li...@thrane.name Subject: PAW9 - Monopoly To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 10:15 AM Two boys enjoying the game http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html Made with my Razzle 4x5 camera, Ilford HP5+, 1/30s, f/4.7, 127mm, hand held. DagT http://www.thrane.name -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 10/3/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Under UK law the manufacturer could tell you to go run up a shutter, anyway. Your contract is with the retailer to provide goods of merchantable quality, which has always been taken to mean fit for purpose. Equipment bought as being of professional standard would be expected to perform to a higher level in whatever you choose (e.g. durability) than that described as some other standard. Understood. Sorry, I didn't make it clear enough that I was referring to an out-of-warranty scenario. Warranty, schmarranty. The courts decide what is a reasonable term for something to remain functional. I understand that, usually, it's not worth the bother but the Sale of Goods Act 1898 is a brilliant piece of consumer protection. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: It would be funny if Pentax just hung there with the MF and DX sensors. Funny in the sense of PDML threads, that is. Not so much fun for Wheatfield. He could end up being Canada's first nuclear accident. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 10/3/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: It's a 1.3x crop factor, pretty much standard for MF Digital. Thanks Adam. There's only one 645 Full-frame sensor on the market, the 60MP sensor in the PhaseOne P65+ back and the last I'd heard that was a custom job for PhaseOne and not available to other vendors, even if it was, it would probably have doubled the cost of the 645D. Everyone else except Leica is using either 1.3x or 1.1x crop sensors, depending on availability and cost (every back maker switches between the two sizes). Leica is using their own, slightly smaller 3:2 aspect format. 1.3x is reasonable. I found using the 1.3x crop 1D mark II very comfortable and didn't have to sway too much with existing lenses to get what I wanted. The K15mm on that camera was formidable. Given that the 645D-FA lenses remain able to cover 645, I expect Pentax to move up to full-frame sensors when there are economic options available. My hat is due to retire in 2025 so better be quick. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Change one you'll change the other, we're just not quite sure how that
connects yet.
On 3/10/2010 8:33 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
I'll get right on it. Would you prefer quantum mechanics or
relativity to be violated?
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote:
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: 645D Exists
(Or Will Soon)
I wonder, however, what it would take for Pentax to make a mirrorless,
short register, EVIL, version of the the 645D, that could use either K-
mount or 645 mount lenses.
A rewrite of the laws of physics would be a good place to start.
William Robb
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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
I came up with 1.27x but my math may have been off.
On 3/10/2010 9:07 AM, Cotty wrote:
I make the 'crop factor' (if you will) on the 645D to be 1.36x - can
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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 3/10/2010 4:24 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
I think it will attract pros moving up from full frame.
Pros need the kind of pro service that Hoya have just closed down, all
over Europe.
Ralf
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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 3/10/2010 2:55 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
2010/3/10 Mark Robertsm...@robertstech.com:
David Savage wrote:
On 10/03/2010, jtainterjtain...@mindspring.com wrote:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp
It'll be to big and heavy for most PDML'ers.
Nonsense!
It'll be rejected at because it only shoots 1.1 frames per second and
only goes up to ISO 1600. Everyone knows you can't take photos at
under 5 fps and ISO 96,000.
And without SR it's downright undoable.
I never seriously thought that a medium format camera could be sensor
stabilized, but now we have something else to moan over. Good job!
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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 3/10/2010 3:27 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
2010/3/10 jtainterjtain...@mindspring.com:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp
A thought just occurred to me regarding the Japan-only availability...
Bet it's a matter of throughput on the assembly line more than
anything else. This is the sort of camera that's more of a long-term
seller, so a small and slow but high-quality assembly makes more sense
than flooding the market with a big-batch-and-be-done-with-it
approach. Well... more sense to me anyway.
And bless the Japanese customers for rooting out bugs of the v1.00 firmware. :-)
Jostein
Except for SR this is the K-7 interface. In fact since SR is now buried
in a menu, a simple matter to have commented out before compile in
several different ways. You've got that backwards. We, (well you since
I don't own a K-7), have worked out the bugs for the v. 1.0 firmware.
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Re: 655D no kidding
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:26 AM, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote: On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Tim Bray wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/pentax-gets-official-with-40-megapixel-645d-medium-format-camera/ I'm drooling. Is Cotty salivating? I don't remember if medium format counts in the hat-eating stakes. You know what that camera would do for me? It would show off with painful clarity how much my photos stink. *chucks the k-x in the weeds and reaches for his pointnshoot* :-P --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Tripod mount for horizontals, err verticals err, well I don't know how
the sensor is oriented, it could go either way
On 3/10/2010 3:32 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 9/3/10, jtainter, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp
Looks like you have to supply your own winding handle on the left:
http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/1003/pentax/645D_cross_back.jpg
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Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
paul stenquist wrote: On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:08 AM, David Savage wrote: More a case of being concerned that the path is coming to an end. I doubt that it will. The investment says otherwise. It looks like part of Hoya's reasoning in bringing the 645D to market is to emphasize their support of their Pentax camera division. The 645D is still way out of my price bracket, and they really do need a step somewhere between a $1000 camera and a $10,000 camera :) But I'm thinking that some of the technology developed for the 645D - 77-segment multi-pattern metering, new AF, new image engine - will migrate nicely to a 35mm-FF DSLR. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 3/10/2010 3:48 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 9/3/10, jtainter, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10031002pentax645d.asp
One thing confuses me. It's a 645D - yet the sensor size means that it's
really a 433D or thereabouts. So existing 645 lenses will be crippled by
the same 1.5x crop factor that the K-7 and it's earlier siblings have?
So a serious landscape photographer who had what once was a fabulous
wide angle on his film Pentax 645 will now have a fabulous not-so-wide
and have to buy an even wider lens to compensate if he/she wants more of
the same?
Sure, things open up in the telephoto end, but for 'MF' digital, surely
the wider end is more important?
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thought that a full frame K mount wasn't really necessary for some time,
I'd like one but hell a 1.1 - 1.3 crop would good enough.
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Re: FS Friday - *istD plus accessories
Sorry, I've changed my mind! All this talk about IR photography has decided me to buy an infrared filter and to give it a try with the *istD. At 1:52 PM +0100 3/10/10, eckinator wrote: Well I'll need a month or two to raise the necessary funds but I may buy if it is still there (please don't hold it for me though, it is a firm MAY) Cheers Ecke 2010/3/5 Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca: I'm selling my *istD, battery grip, CF cards, NiMH batteries and charger. Beautiful condition, less than 3200 actuations. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Pentax-istD-DSLR-accessories-W0QQAdIdZ177848717 Price for PDML people is $250...Canadian funds if you are in Canada, US funds if you are somewhere else. Shipping is extra. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
P. J. Alling wrote: I never seriously thought that a medium format camera could be sensor stabilized, but now we have something else to moan over. Good job! But that could make it a shift camera, sort of a first. BTW, I've just tested the Sony A850 and its FF-sensor stabilizer works, although being less predictable than the sister unit in the A550 (APS size). Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
Naa, it would be a purely chemical explosion, but it would level half of
Western Canada.
On 3/10/2010 10:50 AM, mike wilson wrote:
Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be funny if Pentax just hung there with the MF and DX
sensors. Funny in the sense of PDML threads, that is.
Not so much fun for Wheatfield. He could end up being Canada's first nuclear
accident.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote:
On 10/3/10, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed:
It's a 1.3x crop factor, pretty much standard for MF Digital.
Thanks Adam.
There's only one 645 Full-frame sensor on the market, the 60MP sensor
in the PhaseOne P65+ back and the last I'd heard that was a custom job
for PhaseOne and not available to other vendors, even if it was, it
would probably have doubled the cost of the 645D. Everyone else except
Leica is using either 1.3x or 1.1x crop sensors, depending on
availability and cost (every back maker switches between the two
sizes). Leica is using their own, slightly smaller 3:2 aspect format.
1.3x is reasonable. I found using the 1.3x crop 1D mark II very
comfortable and didn't have to sway too much with existing lenses to get
what I wanted. The K15mm on that camera was formidable.
Given that the 645D-FA lenses remain able to cover 645, I expect
Pentax to move up to full-frame sensors when there are economic
options available.
My hat is due to retire in 2025 so better be quick.
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Re: peso, I stand corrected
On 3/10/2010 2:49 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Various inaccuracies in a previous photo have been brought to my
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My apologies.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4418614177/in/set-72157623583965056/
A friend's comment:
The only way this could possibly be better is if the helmet worked as
a popup flash.
led me to discover that the stormtrooper helmet makes a passable
diffuser for the popup flash.
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Re: PESO - Cellist on Augusta - wider crop
On 3/10/2010 7:51 AM, frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:04 PM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
No brainer! Go with this one. No problems around the cig area and plenty of
crop options..it would seem.(?)
Going to agree here Frank.
Opinions seem to go both ways on this one. I'm still not sure which I
prefer, but I think I'm done with it in any case. I don't think
either image is strong enough to worry much more about.
Thanks all for the input.
cheers,
frank
I haven't commented before, but I guess I will. What makes this photo
more than anything is the oddity of the instrument and it's location.
The composition is good, the background isn't great. It is in a way the
kind of shots you'd see in a local newspaper, where there really were
local newspapers. Very workman like and a shot to be proud of but not
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Re: UK: Photographer films his own 'anti-terror' arrest,
Too bad you can't figure out a way to send it. I'm sure Putin has room
on his mantel.
On 3/10/2010 7:04 AM, Tomek Machnik wrote:
On 10 March 2010 12:08, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
But... they built you that lovely palace!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Culture_and_Science,_Warsaw
Little jealous, aren't you :)
Sadly, they forgot to take the thing back, with their tanks and nukes.
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Re: Longing for Film
Sometimes I'll overlay a grain pattern, supposed to be TMAX but with a
bit of play with the layer it can look kind of like Tri-X, on my BW
conversions. It's funny but it seems to bring out detail where it's
been minimized by the digital process. Sometimes I miss film,. but
don't feel like messing around with the chemicals.
On 3/10/2010 8:58 AM, eckinator wrote:
No but isn't this ironic... next thing you know you'll have a CD
player with a built-in vinyl effect preamp...
2010/3/10 Tom Ccaka...@gmail.com:
Over the past several years I've scanned and reviewed earlier scanned
images I've made. There is something about them that's undefinable
and draws me to them over my digitally captured images.
I can't say what it is. Possibly a sense of being closer to reality,
in the same vein that I recognize an analog record as sounding better
than a CD? Possibly the smoothness of film across the dynamic range?
I don't know.
Unless I were able to take side-by-side film vs. digitally captured
images in the same format, using the same lens, it would be difficult
to make an objective comparison.
So subjectively, as far as image quality is concerned, I'm tending to
lean towards film... though it's obviously a dead end.
I hope to scan quite a number of film images captured from the past
ten years and subjectively, of course, compare them to my overall
sense of digitally captured images.
Partially responsible for making me think along these lines, is a
recent advert from Alien Skin Exposure 2, a film simulator plug-in.
http://tinyurl.com/yz2zybg
Does anyone have any experience with it?
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Re: FS Friday - *istD plus accessories
No biggie as long as you let me know next time you change your mind! 2010/3/10 Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca: Sorry, I've changed my mind! All this talk about IR photography has decided me to buy an infrared filter and to give it a try with the *istD. At 1:52 PM +0100 3/10/10, eckinator wrote: Well I'll need a month or two to raise the necessary funds but I may buy if it is still there (please don't hold it for me though, it is a firm MAY) Cheers Ecke 2010/3/5 Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca: I'm selling my *istD, battery grip, CF cards, NiMH batteries and charger. Beautiful condition, less than 3200 actuations. http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-cameras-camcorders-Pentax-istD-DSLR-accessories-W0QQAdIdZ177848717 Price for PDML people is $250...Canadian funds if you are in Canada, US funds if you are somewhere else. Shipping is extra. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Longing for Film
Darkrooms take up a lot of space, scanners not so much. (I miss bW
printing, I'm not sure I'm still good at it though).
On 3/10/2010 9:24 AM, David Savage wrote:
I like shooting film (BW, in the LX with the FA 31mm f1.8), I even
like developing it.
It's the scanning of film that I hate with a fundamentalist passion.
On 10 March 2010 11:11, Tom Ccaka...@gmail.com wrote:
Over the past several years I've scanned and reviewed earlier scanned
images I've made. There is something about them that's undefinable
and draws me to them over my digitally captured images.
I can't say what it is. Possibly a sense of being closer to reality,
in the same vein that I recognize an analog record as sounding better
than a CD? Possibly the smoothness of film across the dynamic range?
I don't know.
Unless I were able to take side-by-side film vs. digitally captured
images in the same format, using the same lens, it would be difficult
to make an objective comparison.
So subjectively, as far as image quality is concerned, I'm tending to
lean towards film... though it's obviously a dead end.
I hope to scan quite a number of film images captured from the past
ten years and subjectively, of course, compare them to my overall
sense of digitally captured images.
Partially responsible for making me think along these lines, is a
recent advert from Alien Skin Exposure 2, a film simulator plug-in.
http://tinyurl.com/yz2zybg
Does anyone have any experience with it?
Tom C.
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Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
On 3/10/2010 9:37 AM, Tomek Machnik wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:52:02 +0100 eckinatoreckina...@gmail.com wrote:
2010/3/10 mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
That's KXs banned on at least transAtlantic flights, now.
you must be talking of a plastic explosive of the same name... ]=)
I'll just say I'm a k-xen buddhist and it is a meditative aid...
You forgot the mention the lingering body cavity search.
Current security policy provides a special bonus for buddhist.
Series of free* electric shocks, to help you meditate deeper.
*terms and conditions apply
I have no chance to fly anywhere since going darkside.
- What's in the bag, sir?
- It's a small canon... [with foreign accent]
- BZZ (an onomatopoeia for being electrocuted)
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Re: Fwd: IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions
The IRS is known for going after the little guys. Easy to intimidate.
On 3/10/2010 10:22 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions Beginning Next Year
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abu/y210/m03/abu0258/s03
Anyone running an eBay store doing more than $20,000 a year ought to
be paying their taxes.
Don't see where this is really going to affect the occasional eBay
seller.
Only cause for discontent I can come up with is why ain't they going
after tax cheats doing $20 BILLION dollars a year with the same vigor?
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Re: 655D no kidding
On 3/10/2010 11:07 AM, Sam L wrote:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:26 AM, David Manndm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote:
On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Tim Bray wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/pentax-gets-official-with-40-megapixel-645d-medium-format-camera/
I'm drooling.
Is Cotty salivating? I don't remember if medium format counts in the
hat-eating stakes.
You know what that camera would do for me?
It would show off with painful clarity how much my photos stink.
*chucks the k-x in the weeds and reaches for his pointnshoot*
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Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
2010/3/10 Tomek Machnik tru...@gmail.com: - BZZ (an onomatopoeia for being electrocuted) w00t! you got the vocab... means you get to choose the poison when I get there ]=) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Viewer discretion advised
2010/3/10 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: You forgot the mention the lingering body cavity search. I know there are dentists for cavities in your mouth but who closes the others if any are found? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fwd: IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions
2010/3/10 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: The IRS is known for going after the little guys. Easy to intimidate. back to is my governmant crazy? I know my local court is. a mother who put up 40 listings of outgrown kids stuff now has to register a business and pay taxes and present a profit-loss accounting or have taxes estimated. Plus court fees. And it was upheld on appeal, too. Judge must have been smoking used diapers... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS Friday - *istD plus accessories
At 5:33 PM +0100 3/10/10, eckinator wrote: No biggie as long as you let me know next time you change your mind! Sorry...I didn't realize that you were interested, up until this point! -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 655D no kidding
Somehow I think that Pentax is aiming this at well healed amateurs, I
don't think that there are that many pros who need this kind of
resolution. The weekend wedding shooter can get by with a 6mp camera,
even now., and that's what maybe 90% of the pro market. Those
photographers who need this kind of resolution can afford the current
offerings, they take a tax write off.
On 3/10/2010 9:37 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
I love this line:
...unlike similar options from Hasselblad, this one won't actually
destroy your hopes of sending four generations of offspring to
college.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Tim Braytb...@textuality.com wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/pentax-gets-official-with-40-megapixel-645d-medium-format-camera/
Some big numbers there. -T
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Re: Longing for Film
Well I can vouch for that! I have been scanning for the last week and I hate it! Vuescan/Minolta Scan Dual II and batch mode helps some, but it is still painful. At this point, I have zero interest in film. I look back on my stuff and find that I have improved my skills quite a bit over the years and the biggest leap was when I went to digital and could learn in real time (shoot and look) and post processing very quickly. Also, cost of learning was relatively low (shoot as many frames as you want) so that also helped me to learn quicker. I still have some good keepers on film, but the dreamy nostalgia is just not there for me. Of course, I have the same feeling towards vinyl records vs CD's. Different strokes for different folks. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 6:24:21 AM, you wrote: DS I like shooting film (BW, in the LX with the FA 31mm f1.8), I even DS like developing it. DS It's the scanning of film that I hate with a fundamentalist passion. DS On 10 March 2010 11:11, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Over the past several years I've scanned and reviewed earlier scanned images I've made. There is something about them that's undefinable and draws me to them over my digitally captured images. I can't say what it is. Possibly a sense of being closer to reality, in the same vein that I recognize an analog record as sounding better than a CD? Possibly the smoothness of film across the dynamic range? I don't know. Unless I were able to take side-by-side film vs. digitally captured images in the same format, using the same lens, it would be difficult to make an objective comparison. So subjectively, as far as image quality is concerned, I'm tending to lean towards film... though it's obviously a dead end. I hope to scan quite a number of film images captured from the past ten years and subjectively, of course, compare them to my overall sense of digitally captured images. Partially responsible for making me think along these lines, is a recent advert from Alien Skin Exposure 2, a film simulator plug-in. http://tinyurl.com/yz2zybg Does anyone have any experience with it? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D Exists (Or Will Soon)
On 3/10/2010 11:10 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
paul stenquist wrote:
On Mar 10, 2010, at 12:08 AM, David Savage wrote:
More a case of being concerned that the path is coming to an end.
I doubt that it will. The investment says otherwise.
It looks like part of Hoya's reasoning in bringing the 645D to market
is to emphasize their support of their Pentax camera division.
The 645D is still way out of my price bracket, and they really do need
a step somewhere between a $1000 camera and a $10,000 camera :)
But I'm thinking that some of the technology developed for the 645D -
77-segment multi-pattern metering, new AF, new image engine - will
migrate nicely to a 35mm-FF DSLR.
There's a rumor, (don't remember where I read it, that Pentax will be
announcing the K-7 upgrade/replacement about the same time the 645D is
released. I'm not sure I believe that but hey you can dream.
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Re: 655D no kidding
It's a sales took for the wedding photographer with a snobish customer base...
Regards, Bob S.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:01 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
Somehow I think that Pentax is aiming this at well healed amateurs, I don't
think that there are that many pros who need this kind of resolution. The
weekend wedding shooter can get by with a 6mp camera, even now., and that's
what maybe 90% of the pro market. Those photographers who need this kind of
resolution can afford the current offerings, they take a tax write off.
On 3/10/2010 9:37 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
I love this line:
...unlike similar options from Hasselblad, this one won't actually
destroy your hopes of sending four generations of offspring to
college.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Tim Braytb...@textuality.com wrote:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/pentax-gets-official-with-40-megapixel-645d-medium-format-camera/
Some big numbers there. -T
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Re: Longing for Film
I'm making my way through this huge repository of photos ... negatives made in the '50s and '60 by my grandfather, uncle, mother and father ... and they're captivating, delightful photographs. I can't wait to be done capturing them so that I can forget about film forever. What makes them special is that they are of people, places, things long past, they evoke memories that are delightful to me. Their miserable dynamic range, poor resolution, scratches, grain and other elements of sixty years of degradation make them unique and charming, Huge in the context of film exposures made over a twenty year period is a matter of 1500 exposures ... not even a weekend's assignment shoot nowadays for any good photographic effort. Huge in this context is a matter of weeks and weeks of capture and rendering effort just to get a half decent photograph. I've made over 3000 new photos since I started this project, with 1/10 the effort and time, and completed three extensive projects from capture to finished products. Two of which have already been given candidate status for an exhibit, etc. I have no love of film at all. Or scanning. It's the photographs I love. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fwd: IRS to Track Online Sellers' Payment Transactions
But somehow I expect that of Germany, all rules must be followed,
efficiency demands it, even if it causes inefficiency. At least in
Germany it leads to clean streets and working mass transit. So some
good comes of it.
On 3/10/2010 11:55 AM, eckinator wrote:
2010/3/10 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com:
The IRS is known for going after the little guys. Easy to intimidate.
back to is my governmant crazy? I know my local court is. a mother who
put up 40 listings of outgrown kids stuff now has to register a
business and pay taxes and present a profit-loss accounting or have
taxes estimated. Plus court fees. And it was upheld on appeal, too.
Judge must have been smoking used diapers...
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Re: Always on-topic: What the Duck
A reminder for us all. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: For Sunday, March 7th: http://www.whattheduck.net/strip/174-sunday -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D has got its own website
On 3/10/2010 7:06 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
Found the link on the teaser page:
http://www.camera-pentax.jp/645d/top.html
I just find it amazing how flash happy Pentax is, if there was ever a
web page that didn't need flash...
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