Re: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread Jim King

paul stenquist wrote on Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:53:40 -0700


There are three versions of the 400/5.6: K, M, and A.  (snip)



There is also the FA 400/5.6 - I have a copy in my collection, along  
with the other three.  IIRC, it's a decent lens but it suffers from  
fringing as the others do.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:08 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
> Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation
>
>
>
>>
>> You mean Poutine ISN'T the Prime Minister of Canada?
>>
>
> Not any longer. We replaced a Francophone lying bastard for an Albertan
> lying bastard.
> At least with Poutine, you never knew when he was lying because you couldn't
> understand a bloody thing he said.
>
> William Robb
>

Actually it was pretty easy, if his lips were moving, he was lying.


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Re: Picasa: RAW looks better than JPEG (K200D)

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
Whether the default RAW conversion looks better or worse than JPEG
depends on what the default settings are. I generally find ACR/LR's
default settings to be pretty poor, but other converters (Notably
CaptureOne) have better default settings. Note that with most RAW
converters you can save your own set of default settings and use those
instead of the ones that come stock (I found this to be necessary with
ACR)

Pentax's default JPEGs are decent but nothing more, I'd be shocked if
the RAW didn't look better. Since I do everything in RAW anyways, I
really don't look closely at the JPEG settings and my K-x remains set
to the defaults.

-Adam

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 5:23 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> I guess this qualifies as a newbie question. I don't have Lightroom
> (yet) and so use Picasa to import photos from my SD card.
> Lately, I've really noticed that in Picasa the RAW thumbnails looks
> substantially better than the corresponding JPEG (I always shoot
> RAW+JPEG).
> Example here: http://www.pixelsmithy.com/img/rawVSjpeg.png
>
> I always thought although the RAW contains more information and could
> look better after post-processing, it would normally look a bit worse
> than the JPEG.
>
> I was wondering if I could poll you on what your settings are for
> in-camera JPEG processing (and which menu settings you have tweaked).
> I guess in my case, I definitely would like them to look at least as
> good as the RAW thumbnail looks!
>
> Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom!
>
> Darren Addy
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling

On 3/19/2010 7:08 PM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation





You mean Poutine ISN'T the Prime Minister of Canada?



Not any longer. We replaced a Francophone lying bastard for an 
Albertan lying bastard.
At least with Poutine, you never knew when he was lying because you 
couldn't understand a bloody thing he said.


William Robb


Isn't knowing better than not?

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Mid-Atlantic to Chicago for the exhibit

2010-03-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Is anyone from the DC/Baltimore, Philly or Pittsburgh areas planning
to drive to Chicago for the opening?

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Re: Chicago Exhibit

2010-03-19 Thread ann sanfedele



Fernando wrote:


Here I am, just lurking. And thrilled for being part of the exhibit
(thanks Mark and Christine and the book team for all your hard work).
I'm still debating Chicago, but if I do go, you can surely count me in
for Eggleston.

BTW Ann, looks like you are getting a visit from Canada if you are
free and would like to meet us for coffee at Soho (I'm going to NYC
with my wife on the long weekend of April 2)



absolutely, Fernando  - and hope you can get to chicago too...

I live in the east village... quite close,as you must know...

I'll send you my phone number off list.

Ann






On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
 


ann sanfedele wrote:
   


AlunFoto wrote:

 


Doug, I'd love to see the Eggleston exhibit.
Jostein

   


me three...
and  I used to practically live at the Art Institute...  spent hours in
the THorne rooms and in front of
_the_ Seurat

ann
 


OK, that's three of us. Where's Fernando?

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread John Mullan
Zarex comes to mind for your cordial. It was a sweet fruit flavored syrup, 
mixed with water and served cold, over ice. I've not seen it in years, but 
the all knowing internet says it is still being made. 
http://www.inthe70s.com/food/zarex2.shtml


jm
- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Love" 

To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation


Oh, no, I'm not talking "real" cheese here!  I  definitely mean the 
sliced,

square type that you find at Subway, Maccas (McDonalds) etc. aka Plastic
Cheese.

I am very well aware of the thousands of types of delicious cheeses
available world wide, me being a Fetta girl myself! Cheese is one of my
favourite things in the whole world!

I just thought of another thing too...

Cordial!  No-one, and I mean NO one in the US had any idea what I was
talking about when I asked if anyone had cordial!  We always have at least 
2

bottles of different flavours in our house!  It is a concentrated water
syrup stuff that you add about a cm of to the bottom of a glass and fill 
the

remainder with water.  It is always a fruity flavour - raspberry, "fruit
cup", orange, lime, lemon etc.  The closest American equivalent I could 
find

was "Kool Aid", but it is powder?!

I was SO excited to come home and have a nice big glass of raspberry
cordial!  I guess we drink it like you guys drink Iced Tea - and it's just
not the same without a ton of ice cubes clinking around the glass!

Butter vs margarine - w!  There is NOTHING comparable to the taste
of REAL butter, melted on toast with a scrape of vegemite.  Yummmo! 
And

margarine just doesn't cut it! :)

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of 
John

Sessoms
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 9:27 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation


Depends on what cheese you saw, and where you saw it.

If it was in one of the "old timey, mountain country stores" around
Grandfather Mountain, and the cheese was cut in wedges off a big wheel, 
you

missed a treat, North Carolina red rind hoop cheese.

It's a traditional farm made cheese carried down from the days of spring
houses in back-woods "hollers" where cheese making was the only way to 
keep

milk from spoiling before it got to market. It doesn't have food coloring
except for the red in the bees-wax rind (which you peel off and throw 
away).


"American Cheese" has the same relationship to real cheese that margarine
has to butter. Both margarine and American Cheese have food coloring 
added -

margarine because dairy farmers forced the U.S.
Department of Agriculture to require it to do so. The dairy farms thought
the color would be off-putting because butter is white.

Didn't work, and now butter often has food color added so it will look 
like

margarine.

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Re: Chicago Exhibit

2010-03-19 Thread Fernando
Here I am, just lurking. And thrilled for being part of the exhibit
(thanks Mark and Christine and the book team for all your hard work).
I'm still debating Chicago, but if I do go, you can surely count me in
for Eggleston.

BTW Ann, looks like you are getting a visit from Canada if you are
free and would like to meet us for coffee at Soho (I'm going to NYC
with my wife on the long weekend of April 2)



On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> ann sanfedele wrote:
>>
>>
>> AlunFoto wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, I'd love to see the Eggleston exhibit.
>>> Jostein
>>>
>> me three...
>> and  I used to practically live at the Art Institute...  spent hours in
>> the THorne rooms and in front of
>> _the_ Seurat
>>
>> ann
>
> OK, that's three of us. Where's Fernando?
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Re: Peso's My Crocus

2010-03-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Those are nice, Dave. Your photos make me want to sing Spring!  Spring! 
It's in the air!  We've had a lovely two days here in Chicago.  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 
To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Barbara Brooks" ; 
"Home, Sarah" 
Cc: "Conley Leah" ; "Smillie Dale" 


Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Peso's My Crocus



Rememeber when i said Paul's crocus and snowdrops are usually 2 weeks
ahead of mine.

I lied.

Nothing in the garden Wednesday, but Thursday awoke to one crocus.

Waking up:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823954

Opened up:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823955

Shutting down for the night:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823956

Shot these three over Thursday and Friday morning.

K10D DA F 50 f2.8 hand held LR adjustments.

Comments welcome

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Exhibit Participants, Please get your file to Mark because

2010-03-19 Thread Christine Aguila
he has to get all these files printed, then boxed and shipped so that they 
can be mailed to the framer here in Chicago, and nobody on the team has 
unlimited amounts of time with work and family obligations.


Big thanks for your timely response, and BIG, BIG congrats to all those on 
the exhibit list.


Big cheers, Christine 




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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread tbeilby
Today I took the K7 out to play. I went to  the "Glory Hole Waterfall" 
because the PSNWA's trip there tomorrow was cancelled due to predicticed 
thunderstorms them snow. When I got home I found the list of participants to 
the  Chicago show. All I can say is I am honered and humbled to be on that 
list. Hope Diane and I can make the opening.


Ted


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 5:53 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 01:57:57PM +0100, eckinator wrote:
   

2010/3/19 Doug Franklin:
 

Also known as "frenching" them, way back when, in some areas. ?At least,
that's the story I was told. :-)
   

isn't that also a term for french kissing?
 

Errm, no.  Not where I grew up, anyway.


   

When it comes to slang like that, it's too easy to blow it.

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 01:57:57PM +0100, eckinator wrote:
> 2010/3/19 Doug Franklin :
> >
> > Also known as "frenching" them, way back when, in some areas. ?At least,
> > that's the story I was told. :-)
> 
> isn't that also a term for french kissing?

Errm, no.  Not where I grew up, anyway.


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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread Bob W
> >
> > And isn't "pommes de terre" in French the equivalent to 
> "potato" in English?
> >
> 
> One thing the Quebecois got right was a reasonable name for 
> the Potato, they call them Patates (and French Fries are 
> Patates Frites, or just Frites)

The French also use the word patate, including patate douce meaning sweet
potato, and patate chaude meaning a hot potato with the same meaning as in
English. Patate is also a colloquial term for a stupid person.

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Re: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread Brendan MacRae




- Original Message 
> From: Larry Colen 
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> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 2:30:17 PM
> Subject: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?
> 
> It seems that I've got a weak spot for fast primes.

I've been talking to 
> sonpix about his Pentax 400/5.6 and I'm curious how it would compare to my 
> bigma?

It's a little faster at that length, and a little shorter, but how 
> does it compare in size, sharpness, aberration and bokeh?


Larry,

I have the A400mm f5.6. I don't think it translates well on digital, at least 
so far (this might be reduced on a FF sensor or one with a smaller crop factor 
than 1.5). I have used it on both the K10D and K20D and there's just too much 
fringing for my taste. I compared the big Pentax-M 67 400mm f4 IF ED lens on 
these bodies, as well, thinking that the ED glass might make a difference in 
the fringing but I didn't see one (though I may have been introducing other 
issues since that lens was designed for the 67 system). But, since I was 
thinking of getting the FA 400mm f5.6 which also has ED glass I thought I 
should try it.

You may be better off looking into the long DA primes. They've been designed 
with the smaller sensor in mind. 

-Brendan



  

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Atlex paper sale

2010-03-19 Thread paul stenquist
Good deals on Ilford  Gold Fibre Silk and Epson Exhibition Fiber. The Epson 
sheet is considerably less than the very siilar Ilford Gold fibre, although the 
list price is higher. Apparently, the Epson not as well liked. I've been using 
a lot of the Epson, because it's a huge bargain. But I do prefer the Ilford. 
The Epson is a bit less smooth than the Ilford, and that my be a turnoff for 
some. Color rendering is very similar on both.

http://www.atlex.com/ilford/ilford-gold-fibre-silk-baryta-paper.htm

Paul
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Brendan MacRae




- Original Message 
> From: ann sanfedele 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 4:50:56 PM
> Subject: Re: PDML Exhibit participants
> 
> 
Doug Brewer wrote:

> Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
>> OK, 
> the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
>> 
> for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and 
> you
>> haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.
> 
> 
> congrats to everyone from me, too. 

and to you from me, 
> too...

> Since Mark is printing his fingers to the bone and will soon 
> resort to running the mouse with his teeth in order to get everything done in 
> time, I'm here to tell you all that you have one week from yesterday to send 
> your files to Mark for printing. Please get them in as soon as possible. We 
> are 
> facing a very real deadline and Mark is quickly running out of Spring 
> Break.
> 
> If we don't have all the files, we will choose 
> replacement images from among the other submissions, so don't tarry. 

For 
> one _I  tarried not... he has been sent the file already...
Lets go guys 
> - get those files in! rah rah rah

Don't spoil Mark's Spring 
> break!

(speedy) ann


Just sent him mine. Done!

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Re: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread eckinator
2010/3/19 Larry Colen :
> On 3/19/2010 2:57 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps if you told what a bigma is...
>
> Sorry, it's the nickname for the sigma 50-500.

true but it is the 300-800 that makes me drool ]=)

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms"

Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation





You mean Poutine ISN'T the Prime Minister of Canada?



Not any longer. We replaced a Francophone lying bastard for an Albertan 
lying bastard.
At least with Poutine, you never knew when he was lying because you couldn't 
understand a bloody thing he said.


William Robb 



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Re: Chicago Exhibit

2010-03-19 Thread Ira H. Bryant IV

I promise, the next time she gets married I won't be so forgiving :)

Ira


On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:51:43 -0500
Stan Halpin  wrote:

> Where is your sense of priorities!
> 
> stan
> 
> On Mar 18, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I was planning to come, but my sister decided to get married that
> > weekend. I hope you all have a good time.
> > 
> > Ira
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:40:47 -0500
> > "Christine  Aguila"  wrote:
> > 
> >> Ok, I'd like to hear some chatter about the Chicago Exhibit.
> >> 
> >> 1) Who's coming?
> >> 2)  Do you want to do a group photo-walk on Sat or Sun or neither?
> >> 3) Do you want to do a group dinner Sat night at some place cheap
> >> and cheerful?
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread ann sanfedele


Doug Brewer wrote:


Mark Roberts wrote:


OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.


congrats to everyone from me, too. 


and to you from me, too...

Since Mark is printing his fingers to the bone and will soon resort to 
running the mouse with his teeth in order to get everything done in 
time, I'm here to tell you all that you have one week from yesterday 
to send your files to Mark for printing. Please get them in as soon as 
possible. We are facing a very real deadline and Mark is quickly 
running out of Spring Break.


If we don't have all the files, we will choose replacement images from 
among the other submissions, so don't tarry. 


For one _I  tarried not... he has been sent the file already...
Lets go guys - get those files in! rah rah rah

Don't spoil Mark's Spring break!

(speedy) ann


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Re: Just turned 100 !

2010-03-19 Thread AlunFoto
Hey Ken,
You don't really have to shorten the URL. :-)
This works too:
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

Jostein
who has a non-english letter in his name making the link more of a
callenge to older browsers:
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/josteinøksne


2010/3/19 Ken Waller :
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
>
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
> 
> Subject: Re: Just turned 100 !
>
>
>> Jostein:
>>
>> Who is the third member of the Pentax Century Club, besides you and Ken
>> Waller?
>>
>> We should have a web page where all the members of this list could
>> post the URL of their Pentax Gallery (and perhaps their other
>> galleries) so we could check them all out.  Is there such a place?
>
> Thanks Dan & if you click on http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f you'll magically
> be taken to my little portion of the Pentax Gallery !
>
>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:00 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats Ken!
>>>
>>> That makes at least 3 of us on PDML!
>>>
>>> Jostein
>>>
>>> 2010/3/18 Ken Waller :

 No not my age, but the number of images accepted by the Pentax Gallery.
 That makes 5 in the collection and 95 in the rest of the gallery.


 Kenneth Waller
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Re: OT - ARRI's answer to the RED camera

2010-03-19 Thread Brendan MacRae
Sorry, Mark, yes I did. I'll get you the file ASAP.

-Brendan



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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.


congrats to everyone from me, too.

Since Mark is printing his fingers to the bone and will soon resort to 
running the mouse with his teeth in order to get everything done in 
time, I'm here to tell you all that you have one week from yesterday to 
send your files to Mark for printing. Please get them in as soon as 
possible. We are facing a very real deadline and Mark is quickly running 
out of Spring Break.


If we don't have all the files, we will choose replacement images from 
among the other submissions, so don't tarry.


Thanks for your support


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Re: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread paul stenquist
There are three versions of the 400/5.6: K, M, and A.  The A is quite good, and 
of course it offers auto exposure on digitial cams. It offers a much shorter 
minimum focus difference than the K lens. The M falls somewhere in between. The 
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and contrasty. You'll get some CA when shooting branches against a white sky or 
other high contrast subjects. It's fixable in PS. 

I'm not familiar with the bigma, so I can't say that it's better.

Paul
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> 
> I've been talking to sonpix about his Pentax 400/5.6 and I'm curious how it 
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> 
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> compare in size, sharpness, aberration and bokeh?
> 
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Re: Just turned 100 !

2010-03-19 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: Just turned 100 !



Jostein:

Who is the third member of the Pentax Century Club, besides you and Ken 
Waller?


We should have a web page where all the members of this list could
post the URL of their Pentax Gallery (and perhaps their other
galleries) so we could check them all out.  Is there such a place?


Thanks Dan & if you click on http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f you'll magically 
be taken to my little portion of the Pentax Gallery !





Dan

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:00 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:

Congrats Ken!

That makes at least 3 of us on PDML!

Jostein

2010/3/18 Ken Waller :

No not my age, but the number of images accepted by the Pentax Gallery.
That makes 5 in the collection and 95 in the rest of the gallery.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Adam Maas

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:21 PM, eckinator  wrote:

> 2010/3/19 Adam Maas :

>>
>> One thing the Quebecois got right was a reasonable name for the
>> Potato, they call them Patates (and French Fries are Patates Frites,
>> or just Frites)

>
> IIRC their forefathers brought that term with them; it originally
> describes the Indian potato Convolvulus Batatas and it is again IIRC
> 17-1800s French.
>
> One other thing they got right and that I miss much is Poutine, you
> don't get it here and I have no "real" recipe to make it myself and no
> PX plus eligible person etc. around to get canned gravy. If anyone can
> fill me in on how to make that stuff from the ground up, I will be a
> gratefual and happy man
> Cheers
> Ecke


Poutine is nothing more than cheese curds and gravy on top of french
fries. Generally the non-accurate version is better (as it uses cheese
rather than cheese curds).

The gravy is standard gravy, you can find a dozen recipes in any good cookbook.


You mean Poutine ISN'T the Prime Minister of Canada?

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Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2010-03-19 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Z" 

Subject: Re: PESO: Wild Oats



On 3/17/2010 21:34, paul stenquist wrote:

Hi Z,
Are you the same "Z"  who rated thousands of photos on photo.net without 
ever posting? No offense intended, just curious.




that person is obviously a usurper of my name and should be flogged with a 
roll of T-MAX... the only things i've looked at on photo.net are the pesos 
posted in the last few weeks (since i joined this list)


Do you have a name? We generally have names here -- most of us have 
nothing to hide. And those of us who do have something to hide, like 
Cotty and Frank, have already been exposed:-). Of course a name is 
optional. But somehow a real honest to gosh name seems to make it all a 
bit more friendly.


mat covered this for me, but i'll answer anyway... the name on my license 
is 'mike' but i've gone by Z for so long, i tend to introduce myself that 
way in informal settings... even my wife calls me that.



In any case, welcome to the PDML.


And his check didn't bounce ! ;-}




thanks! it's good to be here :)

-Z



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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the, title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:38 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Crumpet or slut? We report, you decide.

Do not respond if she asks, "Does my butt look too big?"

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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the, title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

Crumpet or slut? We report, you decide.

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P. J. Alling"

On 3/19/2010 12:33 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>

>> OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
>> for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
>> haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.
>>  

>
> Congrats to all that will hang in Chicago.
>
> Dave
>

Hanging's too good for 'em.

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: CheekyGeek

Not the kind of photo you like sharing with the class:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4329806677


Seatbelts & airbags GOOD!

Somebody's insurance can replace the car. No amount of insurance can 
ever replace a loved one.


Glad your wife survived and hope she will make a full recovery. That's 
what really counts.


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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: CheekyGeek

I may be wrong, but I understand that if you submitted an image you're in the 
book ...


Well thanks. Now I feel EXTRA special.
: \
So this is just your run-of-the-mill vanity book, eh? The more images
that are accepted the more people that will pay for a copy?
(Unfamiliar with this whole book thing until just recently).


Vanity book; yeah, I guess that's what it is. Run-of-the-mill it ain't.

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Steve Sharpe

At 12:57 PM -0400 3/19/10, John Sessoms wrote:

>From: CheekyGeek

>>Did I miss the announcement of who is in the book (but not in the show)?
>>Or should I just consider it a bad sign if I haven't heard anything yet?
>>:P

>
>I may be wrong, but I understand that if you submitted an image 
>you're in the book ... except apparently for the dark-side shooter 
>who didn't notice the criteria included being on the list (lurker at 
>minimum?) and shooting the submitted images with a PENTAX camera.

>
>I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't make the cut for the exhibit, 
>but I wasn't really expecting to.

>
>I had a hard time finding three images I thought were good enough to 
>submit, and to tell the truth, I ended up settling for one that I 
>thought was good enough and two that I thought were almost good 
>enough.


Same here. Last year was a difficult year for me and my photography 
suffered. However, this just motivates me to get out and take some 
great photos this year!


I got the "get out" part down pat, it's the "take some great photos" 
that I'm still not satisfied with.


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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the, title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Sasha Sobol

Sorry.
this should work:
http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/s2rVED

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, eckinator  wrote:

> not allowed...
>
> 2010/3/19 Sasha Sobol :

>> I have a version that has more symmetry in it:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/104671
>>


I think it needs just enough of the headboard above the heart that the 
heart doesn't touch the edge of the photo. Add as much space along the 
right side and the top as there is between the fingers on her right hand 
and the bottom edge.


That and a little photoshop magic on the cheeks, forehead & left 
shoulder, and I think you got it.


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Re: peso - stranger

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 3:11 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/762460/
   

Very nice shot.
I'd crop in tighter to put her in the upper right corner rather than the 
bottom center.

--Sasha

   



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Re: PESO: Roman Roof Tiles Revisited

2010-03-19 Thread Sasha Sobol
This crop works.
Good stuff
--S

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Rick, Brian and Tom -- Thanks for looking and thanks for your comments.
>
> Dan M
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Tom C  wrote:
>> Love it!
>>
>> Tom .
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>> wrote:
>>> The colors and textures of these roof tiles at the Castel Sant'Angelo
>>> in Rome caught my attention.  I have cropped the image slightly to
>>> remove the distraction in the upper right corner, as suggested by Jack
>>> Davis:
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10819851
>>>
>>> Comments, suggestions and criticisms will be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> The original uncropped image:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10817361
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the, title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Sasha Sobol

I have a version that has more symmetry in it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/104671


Oops! You don't have permission to view this photo.

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peso - stranger

2010-03-19 Thread Sasha Sobol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/762460/

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Re: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 02:30:17PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> It seems that I've got a weak spot for fast primes.
>
> I've been talking to sonpix about his Pentax 400/5.6 and I'm curious how  
> it would compare to my bigma?
>
> It's a little faster at that length, and a little shorter, but how does  
> it compare in size, sharpness, aberration and bokeh?

Or you could just stick a 2x TC on the back of that 200/2.8 ...
Somebody was selling a Pentax 2XS TC here, IIRC.


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Re: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 2:57 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Perhaps if you told what a bigma is...


Sorry, it's the nickname for the sigma 50-500.



On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


It seems that I've got a weak spot for fast primes.

I've been talking to sonpix about his Pentax 400/5.6 and I'm curious 
how it would compare to my bigma?


It's a little faster at that length, and a little shorter, but how 
does it compare in size, sharpness, aberration and bokeh?



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Re: 400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread Doug Brewer

Perhaps if you told what a bigma is...

On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:


It seems that I've got a weak spot for fast primes.

I've been talking to sonpix about his Pentax 400/5.6 and I'm curious  
how it would compare to my bigma?


It's a little faster at that length, and a little shorter, but how  
does it compare in size, sharpness, aberration and bokeh?



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400/5.6 vs bigma ?

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

It seems that I've got a weak spot for fast primes.

I've been talking to sonpix about his Pentax 400/5.6 and I'm curious how 
it would compare to my bigma?


It's a little faster at that length, and a little shorter, but how does 
it compare in size, sharpness, aberration and bokeh?



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Re: Sick of cheap scans

2010-03-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Nick Wright  wrote:
>> If you prefer the look and the process of working with film, I'd
>> recommend either buying a top-notch film scanner and learning to do
>> that yourself or incorporating in your process having professional
>> quality scans done by either a local pro service that you build a
>> relationship with or using ScanCafe.com on their quick turnaround, pro
>> service.

> This is why I am so upset. I went to a "pro" lab and had expensive
> "high quality" scans done. And I am just not happy with the quality.

Not all "pro" shops are particularly good. I said, "a local pro
service that you build a relationship with" ... If you can't build a
relationship and get high quality results, you have to go elsewhere.

Have you taken the work back to them and told them it was
unacceptable? what you need? requested a refund? Just complaining
about it doesn't build a relationship with the service.

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Picasa: RAW looks better than JPEG (K200D)

2010-03-19 Thread CheekyGeek
I guess this qualifies as a newbie question. I don't have Lightroom
(yet) and so use Picasa to import photos from my SD card.
Lately, I've really noticed that in Picasa the RAW thumbnails looks
substantially better than the corresponding JPEG (I always shoot
RAW+JPEG).
Example here: http://www.pixelsmithy.com/img/rawVSjpeg.png

I always thought although the RAW contains more information and could
look better after post-processing, it would normally look a bit worse
than the JPEG.

I was wondering if I could poll you on what your settings are for
in-camera JPEG processing (and which menu settings you have tweaked).
I guess in my case, I definitely would like them to look at least as
good as the RAW thumbnail looks!

Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom!

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Re: Peso's My Crocus

2010-03-19 Thread P N Stenquist


On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On 3/19/2010 11:51 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
Very nice. Much more "floral" than mine, which is in keeping with  
your personality:-).


It's amazing what a few days of warm weather can do.



Are you talking about his flower, photos or personality?


Yes!

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Re: Peso's My Crocus

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 11:51 AM, paul stenquist wrote:

Very nice. Much more "floral" than mine, which is in keeping with your 
personality:-).

It's amazing what a few days of warm weather can do.

   

Are you talking about his flower, photos or personality?

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Re: PESO: Roman Roof Tiles Revisited

2010-03-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Rick, Brian and Tom -- Thanks for looking and thanks for your comments.

Dan M

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> Love it!
>
> Tom .
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> The colors and textures of these roof tiles at the Castel Sant'Angelo
>> in Rome caught my attention.  I have cropped the image slightly to
>> remove the distraction in the upper right corner, as suggested by Jack
>> Davis:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10819851
>>
>> Comments, suggestions and criticisms will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> The original uncropped image:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10817361
>>
>> Dan Matyola
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:21 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/3/19 Adam Maas :
>>
>> One thing the Quebecois got right was a reasonable name for the
>> Potato, they call them Patates (and French Fries are Patates Frites,
>> or just Frites)
>
> IIRC their forefathers brought that term with them; it originally
> describes the Indian potato Convolvulus Batatas and it is again IIRC
> 17-1800s French.
>
> One other thing they got right and that I miss much is Poutine, you
> don't get it here and I have no "real" recipe to make it myself and no
> PX plus eligible person etc. around to get canned gravy. If anyone can
> fill me in on how to make that stuff from the ground up, I will be a
> gratefual and happy man
> Cheers
> Ecke

Poutine is nothing more than cheese curds and gravy on top of french
fries. Generally the non-accurate version is better (as it uses cheese
rather than cheese curds).

The gravy is standard gravy, you can find a dozen recipes in any good cookbook.

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Re: Manual Focus 28

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> On 3/19/2010 10:32 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> I've owned the A and M(1st version) 28/2.8's and now use a Tamron
>> 28/2.5 Adaptall-2. The A was decent, the M poor, the Tamron is
>> superior to either.
>>
>
> Interesting. I have an adaptall 28 at home.
> How does it compare with the vivitar series 1 28-105 at 28?
>

Wouldn't know for sure, but a solid bet is the prime is better due to
lower distortion (zooms typically have more distortion at each end
than a prime will have) and probably sharper at wide apertures.

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Re: OT - ARRI's answer to the RED camera

2010-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Brendan, did you get the email about the gallery exhibit? Come on and
send me a file!


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Re: Sick of cheap scans

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
Check the EXIF on the scans, if it says Fujifilm or Noritsu, the "Pro"
Lab just ran them through the same machine as the cheap lab, at 3
times the cost. A proper scan from a "Pro" lab should come from an
Imacon/Hasselblad or similar scanner, or at least a high-end Nikon.

-Adam

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Nick Wright  wrote:
> G,
>
> This is why I am so upset. I went to a "pro" lab and had expensive
> "high quality" scans done. And I am just not happy with the quality.
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Nick Wright  
>> wrote:
>>> The bottom line is that I really truly prefer film. I prefer the look.
>>> I prefer the process.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.
>>
>> If you prefer the look and the process of working with film, I'd
>> recommend either buying a top-notch film scanner and learning to do
>> that yourself or incorporating in your process having professional
>> quality scans done by either a local pro service that you build a
>> relationship with or using ScanCafe.com on their quick turnaround, pro
>> service.
>>
>> I see nothing wrong with someone preferring film capture and wanting
>> to work with it digitally post-capture. For me, it's a slow, difficult
>> and expensive process ... I find it gets in my way ... but I also love
>> the look of film combined with the ease and quality of digital image
>> management and processing.
>>
>> If that's what you prefer to do, you simply have to find the way to do
>> it that satisfies your quality and workflow desires. Your expectations
>> of quality, cost and convenience should also be metered by the
>> limitations of the medium... both that of film itself and of the
>> scanning process ... of course.
>> --
>> Godfrey
>>  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com
>>
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Re: OT - ARRI's answer to the RED camera

2010-03-19 Thread Brendan MacRae




- Original Message 
> From: John Sessoms 
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 6:03:27 AM
> Subject: Re: OT - ARRI's answer to the RED camera
> 
> From: David Mann
> Looks like someone painted a shoebox.
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote:
> 
> 
>> > Arriflex has a new digital system. It offers both optical and 
> EVF options.
>> > > The first 16mm camera I used was 1960's era 
> Arriflex 16S. They've come a long way.
>> > > 
> http://arridigital.com/teaser
>> > 
> 
> 

Maybe 
> you'll be able to buy the "factory seconds" at SRI Warehouse.

Yeah, it's a tad inelegant in its design, but that's on pupose as the system is 
modular.


  

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread eckinator
2010/3/19 Adam Maas :
>
> One thing the Quebecois got right was a reasonable name for the
> Potato, they call them Patates (and French Fries are Patates Frites,
> or just Frites)

IIRC their forefathers brought that term with them; it originally
describes the Indian potato Convolvulus Batatas and it is again IIRC
17-1800s French.

One other thing they got right and that I miss much is Poutine, you
don't get it here and I have no "real" recipe to make it myself and no
PX plus eligible person etc. around to get canned gravy. If anyone can
fill me in on how to make that stuff from the ground up, I will be a
gratefual and happy man
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: Sick of cheap scans

2010-03-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
That was my original point, Nick.  Because the world is moving away
from film, the value for a lab to service film is continuing to
weaken.  It becomes a difficult business model to work with.  This
situation is going to continue to get worse, not better.  That is why
I said that you will need to do it yourself.  It means paying for a
good scanner and investing the time (lots of it) to scan and retouch
to get the quality you want.

Think of it more like Kodak with Kodachrome.  Originally there were
more labs that would process it.  This made it more affordable and
quicker turnaround and better quality because of competition between
labs.  As interest started dying out, fewer labs could make a
business out of it and so consolidation started happening.  This made
the turnaround slower and less competition - means higher prices and
lower quality.  Eventually it got down to one lab in the world.

Film is headed down the same basic path.  Less and less R&D means no
more film breakthroughs, more and more labs will consolidate on
processing (and almost all of them will just scan your film to the
quality you are experiencing or worse.  As they consolidate, prices
will go up and quality will go down.  Manufacturers will or have quit
making any new film equipment (cameras, processors, etc).  As those
break down, the business proposition to fix them will not be there.
They will just stop.  It is a slow, downward spiral where costs
continue to go up and quality continues to go down.

I realize this is not a pretty picture, but it is where the market
has largely gone and is continuing.  That is why I am saying you
should set yourself up to control the quality - that means you will
need to do the processing (to control chemicals and damage to film)
and you will need to do the scanning.

I tend to agree with William Robb in that if you are doing film,
shouldn't you use the process all the way through instead of
converting to digital halfway through?

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Friday, March 19, 2010, 10:55:16 AM, you wrote:

NW> G,

NW> This is why I am so upset. I went to a "pro" lab and had expensive
NW> "high quality" scans done. And I am just not happy with the quality.

NW> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Nick Wright  
>> wrote:
>>> The bottom line is that I really truly prefer film. I prefer the look.
>>> I prefer the process.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.
>>
>> If you prefer the look and the process of working with film, I'd
>> recommend either buying a top-notch film scanner and learning to do
>> that yourself or incorporating in your process having professional
>> quality scans done by either a local pro service that you build a
>> relationship with or using ScanCafe.com on their quick turnaround, pro
>> service.
>>
>> I see nothing wrong with someone preferring film capture and wanting
>> to work with it digitally post-capture. For me, it's a slow, difficult
>> and expensive process ... I find it gets in my way ... but I also love
>> the look of film combined with the ease and quality of digital image
>> management and processing.
>>
>> If that's what you prefer to do, you simply have to find the way to do
>> it that satisfies your quality and workflow desires. Your expectations
>> of quality, cost and convenience should also be metered by the
>> limitations of the medium... both that of film itself and of the
>> scanning process ... of course.
>> --
>> Godfrey
>>  godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com
>>
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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread Bob W
> >> > true. that is what us Germans plus the French and 
> Belgians call them.
> >> > short for pommes de terre frites. short because pommes 
> means apples.
> > 
> > And isn't "pommes de terre" in French the equivalent to 
> "potato" in English?
> 
> Literally "earth apples", no "pommes de cheval".
>

Not forgetting pommes de pin (which are not pineapples!), pommes de salade,
pommes d'arrosoir, and pommes d'Adam. You might find some of them a bit hard
to swallow, though.

Bob


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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread DagT
 Great list, I´m honored .-)

DagT


Den 19. mars 2010 kl. 16.03 skrev Mark Roberts:

> OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
> for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
> haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.
> 
> Thank you to all participants and congratulations to those who made
> the gallery exhibit. I know Sue Barton really agonized over the
> selection process and it couldn't have been easy to choose between so
> many excellent submissions.
> 
> Here's the roster:
> 
> Christine Aguila
> Ted Beilby
> Doug Brewer
> Mark Cassino
> Bruce Dayton
> Walt Hamler
> Matthew Hunt
> Subash Jeyan
> Luka Krezevic-Strika
> Brendan MacRae
> Bong Manayon
> Adam Montoya
> Josetein Øksne
> Tim Øsleby
> William Robb
> Mark Roberts
> Christian Skofteland
> Sasha Sobol
> Fernando Terrazzino
> Ken Waller
> Wendy Beard
> Ira Bryant
> Larry Colen
> Jack Davis
> Stan Halpin
> Jaume Lahuete Ibarz
> Ed Keeney
> Boris Liberman
> Scott Loveless
> Christ Mitchell
> Philip Northeast
> Igor Roshchin
> Ann Sanfedele
> Paul Sorenson
> Jay Taylor
> Frank Theriault
> Dag Thrane
> Bruce Walker
> Cory Waters
> Mike Wilson
> Rick Womer
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Subash
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:28:55 -0400
Bruce Walker  wrote:

> My inner critic says there are *way* better artists among the
> entrants who should be there, not me.  My inner vanity says "W00t!!". 

that's exactly how i feel. plus, i know i am much too far into my
preparations for my  himalayas bicycle trip to actually make it in
person. 

and i think this is as good a time as any to put in a word of thanks
for the hard work all the editors and christine have put in, especially
Mark, with all that printing ahead. thanks guys! appreciate it.

regards, subash

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker

Mark Roberts wrote:

OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.

Thank you to all participants and congratulations to those who made
the gallery exhibit. I know Sue Barton really agonized over the
selection process and it couldn't have been easy to choose between so
many excellent submissions.

Here's the roster:
[...]
Bruce Walker


My inner critic says there are *way* better artists among the entrants 
who should be there, not me.  My inner vanity says "W00t!!".  My inner 
wallet says ouch! (Now I have to come up with the scratch.)  And I kinda 
doubt I'll be able to make it to the exhibit opening, as much as I'd 
love to, finances being at a low ebb.  But I'll see what can possibly be 
arranged.


Congratulations to all the PDML stars on the list.  Ms Barton's gallery 
will never have looked so good.


-bmw

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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks to all.
Tim, I also prefer the first version for exactly the same reason.

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On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
> I think it works.
> I also think I would not mind having her at work.
>
> Like the way the hearts mimics each other.
> I also think I prefer the the first version, the second is a bit too
> obvious for me.
>
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>
>
> 2010/3/19 Sasha Sobol :
>> Same model, slightly different look.
>>
>> http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/R8t80V
>> Tell me what you think.
>>
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Miserere
On 19 March 2010 11:03, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
> for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
> haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.
>
> Thank you to all participants and congratulations to those who made
> the gallery exhibit. I know Sue Barton really agonized over the
> selection process and it couldn't have been easy to choose between so
> many excellent submissions.
>
> Here's the roster:

[snip]

Congratulations everyone!

I'm really late with the 2008 book, which I'll be getting from Mark
tomorrow, and am looking forward to the 2009 edition coming soon.
Looks like I'll be getting twice the PDML photo joy this year  :-)

Cheers,


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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Bruce Walker

P. J. Alling wrote:

On 3/19/2010 12:33 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Mark Roberts  
wrote:
  

OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.
 


Congrats to all that will hang in Chicago.

Dave
   

Hanging's too good for 'em.

-- Someone in just about every Western I've ever seen.



Har!  Oh, that deserves *some* kind of MARK!  :-)

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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Tim Øsleby
I think it works.
I also think I would not mind having her at work.

Like the way the hearts mimics each other.
I also think I prefer the the first version, the second is a bit too
obvious for me.

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2010/3/19 Sasha Sobol :
> Same model, slightly different look.
>
> http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/R8t80V
> Tell me what you think.
>
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/3/10, CheekyGeek, discombobulated, unleashed:

> For right now, funds are a bit short as my
>wife was injured in a serious car accident and we're losing some
>income for a while.


Darren, best wishes to your Mrs while she recovers mate.

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Re: Peso's My Crocus

2010-03-19 Thread paul stenquist
Very nice. Much more "floral" than mine, which is in keeping with your 
personality:-).

It's amazing what a few days of warm weather can do.

Paul


On Mar 19, 2010, at 1:48 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Rememeber when i said Paul's crocus and snowdrops are usually 2 weeks
> ahead of mine.
> 
> I lied.
> 
> Nothing in the garden Wednesday, but Thursday awoke to one crocus.
> 
> Waking up:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823954
> 
> Opened up:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823955
> 
> Shutting down for the night:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823956
> 
> Shot these three over Thursday and Friday morning.
> 
> K10D DA F 50 f2.8 hand held LR adjustments.
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
> Dave
> 
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
CheekyGeek wrote:

>Thanks Bob, found it! (I think)
>http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/flash.html

The non-Flash version is better (larger, less compressed images):
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/

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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread eckinator
2010/3/19 Cotty :
>
> Much better - but I just need that little heart a bit lower because of
> the way it mimics her bum ;-)

bumicry?

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread CheekyGeek
Thanks Bob, found it! (I think)
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2008/flash.html

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Darren,
> Search the archives.  Mark has posted a link to last years book pictures.
> Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread P. J. Alling

On 3/19/2010 12:33 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
   

OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.
 


Congrats to all that will hang in Chicago.

Dave
   

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Darren,
Search the archives.  Mark has posted a link to last years book pictures.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> I appreciate the way y'all came down on me so nicely.
> : )
> It is true, I haven't seen one yet and I don't mean to degrade the
> project in any way. After all, it is going to charity and there are
> worse ways to generate funds for a good cause. For my part, I
> submitted one image mainly because when I showed it to the class
> multiple people said it "should be in this year's book". (This was
> before I even knew about a book).
> : \
>
> I'll take your word about last year's submissions and hope to get a
> look at last year's book. For right now, funds are a bit short as my
> wife was injured in a serious car accident and we're losing some
> income for a while.
>
> Not the kind of photo you like sharing with the class:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4329806677
>
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Darren,
You could say that, but you would be wrong.
Get a copy of last year's book and take a look.
Then get back to us...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:51 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
>> I may be wrong, but I understand that if you submitted an image you're in 
>> the book ...
>
> Well thanks. Now I feel EXTRA special.
> : \
> So this is just your run-of-the-mill vanity book, eh? The more images
> that are accepted the more people that will pay for a copy?
> (Unfamiliar with this whole book thing until just recently).
>
> Darren Addy
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread CheekyGeek
I appreciate the way y'all came down on me so nicely.
: )
It is true, I haven't seen one yet and I don't mean to degrade the
project in any way. After all, it is going to charity and there are
worse ways to generate funds for a good cause. For my part, I
submitted one image mainly because when I showed it to the class
multiple people said it "should be in this year's book". (This was
before I even knew about a book).
: \

I'll take your word about last year's submissions and hope to get a
look at last year's book. For right now, funds are a bit short as my
wife was injured in a serious car accident and we're losing some
income for a while.

Not the kind of photo you like sharing with the class:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/4329806677

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:

> So this is just your run-of-the-mill vanity book, eh? The more images
> that are accepted the more people that will pay for a copy?

That was my fear last year, until I saw the thing.

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Re: Peso's My Crocus

2010-03-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Very nice Dave,
Now I've got to shoot some of ours...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:48 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Rememeber when i said Paul's crocus and snowdrops are usually 2 weeks
> ahead of mine.
>
> I lied.
>
> Nothing in the garden Wednesday, but Thursday awoke to one crocus.
>
> Waking up:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823954
>
> Opened up:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823955
>
> Shutting down for the night:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823956
>
> Shot these three over Thursday and Friday morning.
>
> K10D DA F 50 f2.8 hand held LR adjustments.
>
> Comments welcome
>
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Re: Manual Focus 28

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 10:32 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

I've owned the A and M(1st version) 28/2.8's and now use a Tamron
28/2.5 Adaptall-2. The A was decent, the M poor, the Tamron is
superior to either.
   


Interesting. I have an adaptall 28 at home.
How does it compare with the vivitar series 1 28-105 at 28?





   



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Re: Sick of cheap scans

2010-03-19 Thread Nick Wright
G,

This is why I am so upset. I went to a "pro" lab and had expensive
"high quality" scans done. And I am just not happy with the quality.

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> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Nick Wright  wrote:
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>> I prefer the process.
>>
>> Thanks for the input.
>
> If you prefer the look and the process of working with film, I'd
> recommend either buying a top-notch film scanner and learning to do
> that yourself or incorporating in your process having professional
> quality scans done by either a local pro service that you build a
> relationship with or using ScanCafe.com on their quick turnaround, pro
> service.
>
> I see nothing wrong with someone preferring film capture and wanting
> to work with it digitally post-capture. For me, it's a slow, difficult
> and expensive process ... I find it gets in my way ... but I also love
> the look of film combined with the ease and quality of digital image
> management and processing.
>
> If that's what you prefer to do, you simply have to find the way to do
> it that satisfies your quality and workflow desires. Your expectations
> of quality, cost and convenience should also be metered by the
> limitations of the medium... both that of film itself and of the
> scanning process ... of course.
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Re: Peso's My Crocus

2010-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/3/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Waking up:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823954
>
>Opened up:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823955
>
>Shutting down for the night:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823956

All a bit like you Dave ;-)

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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 10:51 AM, CheekyGeek wrote:

I may be wrong, but I understand that if you submitted an image you're in the 
book ...
 

Well thanks. Now I feel EXTRA special.
: \
So this is just your run-of-the-mill vanity book, eh? The more images
that are accepted the more people that will pay for a copy?
(Unfamiliar with this whole book thing until just recently).
   


Take a look at the photos from last year's book.
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/

I found it a rather daunting and humbling collection myself.



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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/3/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Maybe we should take up a collection to fly Cotty out to the gallery to
>video it for the documentary.
>And the UKians could take up a collection to not fly him back.

Larry, you're gonna have a sore ear one day when I make it out to Santa
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread CheekyGeek
> I may be wrong, but I understand that if you submitted an image you're in the 
> book ...

Well thanks. Now I feel EXTRA special.
: \
So this is just your run-of-the-mill vanity book, eh? The more images
that are accepted the more people that will pay for a copy?
(Unfamiliar with this whole book thing until just recently).

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Peso's My Crocus

2010-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
Rememeber when i said Paul's crocus and snowdrops are usually 2 weeks
ahead of mine.

I lied.

Nothing in the garden Wednesday, but Thursday awoke to one crocus.

Waking up:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823954

Opened up:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823955

Shutting down for the night:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10823956

Shot these three over Thursday and Friday morning.

K10D DA F 50 f2.8 hand held LR adjustments.

Comments welcome

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Re: Sick of cheap scans

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 7:48 AM, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote:

Logic doesn't quite match my limited experience


Paging Mr. Roberts to the white courtesy phone ...


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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Larry Colen

On 3/19/2010 9:38 AM, Cotty wrote:

Congrats to everyone on the list of exhibitors. I'm gutted I can't make
it over - business is picking up but nowhere near enough for me to
afford the trip across the pond. Probably do me good to miss out once in
a while!

Meanwhile, the PDML documentary is stalled as I search for a backer. Not
going to happen this year, so will keep plugging away. To be honest,
until things pick up here in the UK economically, there's not much
commissioning money around so I'd be better off just making the darned
thing and then hawking it, but I don't have the money for the travel to
do that.
   


Maybe we should take up a collection to fly Cotty out to the gallery to 
video it for the documentary.

And the UKians could take up a collection to not fly him back.




   



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Re: GESO - Last years pictures

2010-03-19 Thread DagT
Thanks! I agree .-)

DagT
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Den 19. mars 2010 kl. 07.12 skrev Sasha Sobol:

> Very good photos (well, most of them).
> 
> --Sasha
> 
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:58 PM, DagT  wrote:
>> Thanks John (and David, Larry and P.J. too)!
>> 
>> I´m flattered but luckily (?) others, like the Pentax Gallery don´t agree .-)
>> 
>> Actually, after about 10 years at a Norwegian web photo critique site 
>> (www.foto.no) it is relaxing to be able to post the pictures I want on my 
>> own site. It´s nice to know that some people enjoy them but I can post them 
>> anyway just because I like them. First I stopped selling pictures, then I 
>> stopped commenting pictures and now I´m just letting people see them. I´m 
>> not really sure what it means, but my wife has accepted that I´ll probably 
>> never stop photographing. It´s just a way of making comments without words.
>> 
>> DagT
>> http://www.thrane.name
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Den 18. mars 2010 kl. 05.00 skrev John Coyle:
>> 
>>> Terrific images from one who is, IMHO, one of the best photographers in this
>>> group.  Dag seems able to see great images in everyday situations and
>>> present them with such a clean look I am put to shame...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John in Brisbane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of DagT
>>> Sent: Thursday, 18 March 2010 7:39 AM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: GESO - Last years pictures
>>> 
>>> I found some forgotten pictures and updated two of the galleries on my web
>>> site
>>> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page10/page10.html
>>> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page11/page11.html
>>> 
>>> (just three or four on top of each list)
>>> 
>>> DagT
>>> http://www.thrane.name
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread ann sanfedele



Chris Mitchell wrote:


Looks like I've been promoted!

 


Here's the roster:
...
Christ Mitchell
...
   



Seriously, it's great to be in the exhibition and thanks to Mark and the
team for all the hard work.

Chris
 




I started to do a riff on that but  figured you might  :)

ann




 





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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Doug Franklin
 wrote:
> eckinator wrote:
>
>> true. that is what us Germans plus the French and Belgians call them.
>> short for pommes de terre frites. short because pommes means apples.
>
> And isn't "pommes de terre" in French the equivalent to "potato" in English?
>

One thing the Quebecois got right was a reasonable name for the
Potato, they call them Patates (and French Fries are Patates Frites,
or just Frites)


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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
> for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
> haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.


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Re: Manual Focus 28

2010-03-19 Thread Adam Maas
I've owned the A and M(1st version) 28/2.8's and now use a Tamron
28/2.5 Adaptall-2. The A was decent, the M poor, the Tamron is
superior to either.

-Adam

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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>> How do the M and A 28's compare?  Is there a really good one or (more
>> to the point) one to avoid?
>
> The A28/2.8 was one of my first Pentax lenses. It was a little soft
> wide-open, very sharp by f/4-5.6, and had beautiful bokeh throughout.
>
> Never had the M version. Couldn't find *any* of the f/2 28mm lenses of
> any series ... I kept looking for practically the whole time I was
> using Pentax equipment. A friend had the K series 28mm f/3.5 ... it
> definitely out-performed the A wide open, was otherwise similar.
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Boris Liberman

I am most honored and humbled to be in the list.

Julia suggested I take yet another trip across this big pond. I will 
check what can be done...


Boris

On 3/19/2010 5:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

OK, the curator has made her decisions and we have 41 photos selected
for the gallery show in Chicago. If your name is on this list and you
haven't heard from me you should contact me ASAP.

Thank you to all participants and congratulations to those who made
the gallery exhibit. I know Sue Barton really agonized over the
selection process and it couldn't have been easy to choose between so
many excellent submissions.

Here's the roster:

Christine Aguila
Ted Beilby
Doug Brewer
Mark Cassino
Bruce Dayton
Walt Hamler
Matthew Hunt
Subash Jeyan
Luka Krezevic-Strika
Brendan MacRae
Bong Manayon
Adam Montoya
Josetein Øksne
Tim Øsleby
William Robb
Mark Roberts
Christian Skofteland
Sasha Sobol
Fernando Terrazzino
Ken Waller
Wendy Beard
Ira Bryant
Larry Colen
Jack Davis
Stan Halpin
Jaume Lahuete Ibarz
Ed Keeney
Boris Liberman
Scott Loveless
Christ Mitchell
Philip Northeast
Igor Roshchin
Ann Sanfedele
Paul Sorenson
Jay Taylor
Frank Theriault
Dag Thrane
Bruce Walker
Cory Waters
Mike Wilson
Rick Womer




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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Steve Sharpe

At 12:57 PM -0400 3/19/10, John Sessoms wrote:

From: CheekyGeek

Did I miss the announcement of who is in the book (but not in the show)?
Or should I just consider it a bad sign if I haven't heard anything yet?
:P


I may be wrong, but I understand that if you submitted an image 
you're in the book ... except apparently for the dark-side shooter 
who didn't notice the criteria included being on the list (lurker at 
minimum?) and shooting the submitted images with a PENTAX camera.


I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't make the cut for the exhibit, 
but I wasn't really expecting to.


I had a hard time finding three images I thought were good enough to 
submit, and to tell the truth, I ended up settling for one that I 
thought was good enough and two that I thought were almost good 
enough.


Same here. Last year was a difficult year for me and my photography 
suffered. However, this just motivates me to get out and take some 
great photos this year!


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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer wrote:

>What will be the fate of my mounted and framed print once the exhibit ends?

Yours to keep, but you have to arrange with the gallery to get it
shipped to you.

You can, of course, offer it for sale at the exhibit. I'll post the
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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/3/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Sorry.
>this should work:
>http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/s2rVED

Much better - but I just need that little heart a bit lower because of
the way it mimics her bum ;-)

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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread eckinator
definitely get rid of the heart... do the less innocently thinking
among us a favor! other than that great shot and a close-up of the
tattoo would be appreciated
cheers
ecke

2010/3/19 Cotty :
> On 19/3/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Same model, slightly different look.
>>
>>http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/R8t80V
>>Tell me what you think.
>
> Great work Sasha - I'd move that heart on the bed a bit to give it more
> symmetry and clone out edge of headboard top right. Very nice!
>
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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Sasha Sobol
Sorry.
this should work:
http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/s2rVED

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:09 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> not allowed...
>
> 2010/3/19 Sasha Sobol :
>> I have a version that has more symmetry in it:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/104671
>>
>> --S
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>>> On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:47, Cotty wrote:
>>>
 On 19/3/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed:

> Same model, slightly different look.
>
> http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/R8t80V
> Tell me what you think.

 Great work Sasha - I'd move that heart on the bed a bit to give it more
 symmetry and clone out edge of headboard top right. Very nice!

>>>
>>> Agreed.  I'd trim down that headboard a bit.
>>>
>>> And I'll add: "Rowr".  I like it.
>>>
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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/3/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I have a version that has more symmetry in it:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/104671


I'm getting a 'must log in' on that page


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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread eckinator
not allowed...

2010/3/19 Sasha Sobol :
> I have a version that has more symmetry in it:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/104671
>
> --S
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:47, Cotty wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/3/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
 Same model, slightly different look.

 http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/R8t80V
 Tell me what you think.
>>>
>>> Great work Sasha - I'd move that heart on the bed a bit to give it more
>>> symmetry and clone out edge of headboard top right. Very nice!
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.  I'd trim down that headboard a bit.
>>
>> And I'll add: "Rowr".  I like it.
>>
>>  -Charles
>>
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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Sasha Sobol
I have a version that has more symmetry in it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/104671

--S

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:47, Cotty wrote:
>
>> On 19/3/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> Same model, slightly different look.
>>>
>>> http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/R8t80V
>>> Tell me what you think.
>>
>> Great work Sasha - I'd move that heart on the bed a bit to give it more
>> symmetry and clone out edge of headboard top right. Very nice!
>>
>
> Agreed.  I'd trim down that headboard a bit.
>
> And I'll add: "Rowr".  I like it.
>
>  -Charles
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Re: PDML Exhibit participants

2010-03-19 Thread Eactivist
I didn't even check the box for the show. Already been in a show and can't  
make it to Chicago anyway. (And also I am not sure of the relevance to the 
place  where they are being exhibited.)
 
No biggie.

Marnie :-)

In a message dated 3/19/2010 9:59:00  A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
I'm kind of  disappointed that I didn't make the cut for the exhibit, but 
I wasn't really  expecting to.
 

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It's been fun ...

2010-03-19 Thread John Sessoms

... but I got a new camera and daylight's burning.

Later!

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Re: peso - not completely work safe (OK, I put it in the title this time).

2010-03-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:47, Cotty wrote:

> On 19/3/10, Sasha Sobol, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Same model, slightly different look.
>> 
>> http://flickr.com/gp/sobol/R8t80V
>> Tell me what you think.
> 
> Great work Sasha - I'd move that heart on the bed a bit to give it more
> symmetry and clone out edge of headboard top right. Very nice!
> 

Agreed.  I'd trim down that headboard a bit.

And I'll add: "Rowr".  I like it.

 -Charles

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