PESO- roof top wind turbines

2010-07-21 Thread phil
The latest addition to Hobart's skyline is causing controversy - some say
the turbines are unsightly.


http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/rooftopturbines.htm

K10D - 21mm Limited  f7.1 @  1/400

There has been some correction in Bibble5 for optical characteristics of
the lens.


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Re: A new tradition

2010-07-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele

wendy beard wrote:


24 years ago, I took my daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
Last Monday, I took my daughter's daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
To make it a true tradition, I suppose I should have used the same Pentax  :-)
But anyway, here she is: Serina Josephine Groen

http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/126577914
 


a lovely shot!

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Re: A new tradition

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

Congrats, Granny ;-).

I might as well look forward to taking the respective picture in years 
to come ;-).


Wonderful photo a the sweetest little girl.

Boris


On 7/21/2010 2:36 AM, wendy beard wrote:

24 years ago, I took my daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
Last Monday, I took my daughter's daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
To make it a true tradition, I suppose I should have used the same Pentax  :-)
But anyway, here she is: Serina Josephine Groen

http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/126577914



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Re: PESO - voice

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/20/2010 6:57 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Doug,
Where did you find those foreign letters on the sign?
It doesn't look like Kentucky any more,
But the boy is wearing Swim Team in english letters?
Regards,  Bob S.


I might as well argue, Bob, that these letter are not /entirely/ 
foreign. Some even look the same as certain local ones ;-).


Boris

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Re: PESO: Monaco II

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

As always - thumbs up!

On 7/19/2010 10:23 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012

As always... :-)

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Re: PESO- roof top wind turbines

2010-07-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
The picture is nice.  There is no controversy, the turbines are ugly.

Nice work you have done.
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p...@philnortheast.com wrote:

The latest addition to Hobart's skyline is causing controversy - some say
the turbines are unsightly.


http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/rooftopturbines.htm

K10D - 21mm Limited  f7.1 @  1/400

There has been some correction in Bibble5 for optical characteristics of
the lens.


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Re: PESO - In Another World

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Yeah, right, my immediate thought was that you photographed a plastic 
human ;-). But then I looked closer and realized I was wrong.


Well done, sir!

Boris


On 7/17/2010 2:31 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Yet another coffee shop shot.  Not on purpose;  I was just looking
through some older photos and this one taken last summer jumped out at
me.  To me she has an almost mannequin-like look to her, but mostly I
like the far-away look in her eye:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/in-another-world.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: OT Main stream radio

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman
I have to say that on my last so far business trip to US of A, the 
rented car had a sat radio. I was impressed and also entertained. Local 
radio stations (I mean good olde ones) are crap. Except one that plays 
classic music which I kind of like. But having sat radio in a car would 
be so much more fun.


Boris


On 7/21/2010 2:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Dam fat fingers.

A number of years ago, when Sirius and XM radio popped up, I said I
would NEVER ever get radio I had to pay for.
Well after several visits to my wife's brother in North Bay, retired
trucker, and listening to Sirius, i bit the bullet last week and
bought into the system.

I'm SO tired of main stream FM playing the same 3-4 songs by the same
10-12 artists. So far, for a week, i have been listening to channel 74
BB Kings Bluesville, and have heard 2 repeated songs.

LOVE IT

Dave


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Re: Eneloops again and again

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Joseph, could you please tell how do you measure the power level of the 
batteries.


I've a pack of eneloops and a pack of recyko's that I use in my flash. 
They never gave me any headache except when I almost used them up and 
forgot to recharge them. But I'd like to look at these measures that you 
describe myself.


Thanks.

Boris

On 7/20/2010 8:24 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

The 3 year old new uncharged eneloops I installed in my Mighty Mouse
gave it up after 5 days yesterday. They started out at 50% power level.

Just recharged pair I put in the mouse yesterday show 61% power today
(didn't look yesterday after installation).

My keyboard with 4 Costco AA show 62% after 3 months of not being turned
off at all. The mouse is shut off overnight, for 8-10 hours.

Just FYI. I know you couldn't care less, but I said I's tell you! :-)

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Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/19/2010 4:30 PM, William Robb wrote:

We mistimed the PDML show.

William Robb


Apparently not, because you came and appeared in person.

:-)

Boris

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Re: LR3 change

2010-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

 Tue Jul 20 18:40:53 CDT 2010
 Doug Brewer wrote:
 
 Larry Colen wrote:
 In LR2, I would set up a filter on a directory, i.e. all files =4 stars.
 If I left that directory and came back, that's what would be displayed.
 
 In LR3, I can set up that filter, but if I leave the directory and come 
 back, it will display everything, until I click on the faded out =4 stars 
 at the bottom of the grid.  I'd like to go back to the way it was, but I 
 can't figure out how.
 
 I also can't RTFM because there is no FM and the help button approaches 
 Apple levels of usefulness.
 
 
 Guess you need to lock the filter. Click on the lock under where it says 
 Develop.
 
 That pad lock is available when you in Library mode and multiple
 photo (matrix) viewing.
 
 It's a new (IMHO very inconvenient behavior). 
 I've reported it shortly after LR3 came out as a bug, but it turns
 out to be a feature.

misfeature or Broken by Design.  

It screws up a major element in my workflow. It is very annoying.

 
 They describe how to deal with it in this thread:
 http://forums.adobe.com/message/2901664
 
 And in this one, you can read why and what from various opinionated users:
 http://forums.adobe.com/message/2895035#2895035
 
 Igor
 
 
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RE: A new tradition

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
 24 years ago, I took my daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
 Last Monday, I took my daughter's daughter's first photograph with a
Pentax.
 To make it a true tradition, I suppose I should have used the same Pentax
:-)
 But anyway, here she is: Serina Josephine Groen
 
 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/126577914

lovely shot, even though she doesn't look very interested in your camera!

B


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RE: PESO - voice

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
 On 7/21/2010 1:01 AM, Bob W wrote:
  glaz nye goloss
 
 One of the most interesting things in linguistics IMO is how to write a
word in
 one tongue so that it will be properly pronounced in another.
 Case to point - my GPS program is all English based, so that Gan Rave
 Interchange (Rave should be pronounced like in Raveh) becomes something
 rather different when it gives me voice instructions.
 

that's what IPA is for. 

In one instance it is a type of beer which, given a large enough dose, makes
anyone seem fluent in any language. 

In the other instance it is the International Phonetic Alphabet, which is a
way of representing the sounds of different languages. I had to learn and
use it when I was a student. It's very useful, although it doesn't
necessarily help one reproduce the sounds. Being able to write down the
clicks and stops in a language like Xhosa unfortunately doesn't mean one can
repeat them back!

B 


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RE: PESO- roof top wind turbines

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
 The latest addition to Hobart's skyline is causing controversy - some say
the
 turbines are unsightly.
 
 
 http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/rooftopturbines.
 htm
 

that's like complaining about a wart hog's spots. The building itself is
bloody ugly - putting some turbines on top doesn't make any difference. Far
better to put that sort of thing on top of unremarkable city buildings than
to spoil some green field site.

Bob


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RE: LR3 change

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
 
 FM for you, sir: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2885022
 
 I've another problem, which is not a problem really, but just an
annoyance.
 About every second time I run the sucker it crashes. I re-run it and it
comes
 up like a charm. It used to be this way with 2.7 but it was like every
twentieth
 time, not every second time...
 
 Boris

it's possible that the new version has acquired enough extra bloat to make
your machine too weak to run it. I had similar problems with a version of
2.x for a while, although they may have been exacerbated by possible
hardware issues on the computer I was using. I've since bought another
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Re: PESO - voice

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/21/2010 11:37 AM, Bob W wrote:

that's what IPA is for.

In one instance it is a type of beer which, given a large enough dose, makes
anyone seem fluent in any language.

In the other instance it is the International Phonetic Alphabet, which is a
way of representing the sounds of different languages. I had to learn and
use it when I was a student. It's very useful, although it doesn't
necessarily help one reproduce the sounds. Being able to write down the
clicks and stops in a language like Xhosa unfortunately doesn't mean one can
repeat them back!


I looked it up on Wikipedia. Turned on the Russian page. It is one text 
of my native language that I totally fail to comprehend. I mean - I get 
the idea of course, but trying to read into details - and voila - all 
the words are suddenly Chinese to me.


But thanks anyway ;-).

Boris


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RE: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
 I'm trying to persuade my wife to move up to something better than her old
 Casio Exilim.  I'm tempted by the Micro 4/3 systems, and the Olympus E-PL1
 seems to have the ease of use and simplicity that my wife is looking for
 (without being so large that she would refuse to carry it around) at a
pretty
 decent price.  Even with an extra lens (the 40-150) it's still cheaper
than the
 Panasonic, and has in-body image stabilisation.  The optional electronic
view-
 finder might be interesting, too, although it's more likely to be
something
 that I would use than something my wife would consider.

if I was looking at that sort of camera I would also take a long hard look
at the Lumix GF-1.


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RE: PESO - voice

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
  In the other instance it is the International Phonetic Alphabet, which
  is a way of representing the sounds of different languages. I had to
  learn and use it when I was a student. It's very useful, although it
  doesn't necessarily help one reproduce the sounds. Being able to write
  down the clicks and stops in a language like Xhosa unfortunately
  doesn't mean one can repeat them back!
 
 I looked it up on Wikipedia. Turned on the Russian page. It is one text of
my
 native language that I totally fail to comprehend. I mean - I get the idea
of
 course, but trying to read into details - and voila - all the words are
suddenly
 Chinese to me.
 
 But thanks anyway ;-).
 
 Boris

you have to learn about things like labiodental fricatives first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6DVeyKyL-Q




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Re: LR3 change

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/21/2010 11:48 AM, Bob W wrote:

it's possible that the new version has acquired enough extra bloat to make
your machine too weak to run it. I had similar problems with a version of
2.x for a while, although they may have been exacerbated by possible
hardware issues on the computer I was using. I've since bought another
computer dedicated to LR, and it runs very nicely.


My computer is not particularly powerful, but it seems to be above the 
limits of minimal spec, and not below them. I agree that this can be a 
reason but I would expect that in such a case the sucker would simply 
take longer to load. If however, due to slow load it crashes, it smells 
like a bug to me.


Boris

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Re: SoFoBoMo (and GESO) - Macquarie's Towns

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

Most impressive body of work. You sure took full advantage of the light...

Boris



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Re: PESO - Al G at 92

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, very well done. I am thinking that passing regards to Marcia with 
note that she has certain resemblance to her father would be in order 
here...


Boris



On 7/7/2010 2:51 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Had a family gathering a couple weeks ago to celebrate Marcia's father's
92nd birthday.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage2.htm

Cropped vertical from a horizontal image.

Pentax K-X, 1/60, f/5.6, iso 800, Tamron 20-200 @ 100mm, AF-540FGZ
bounced off the wall behind my right shoulder.

Comments and suggestions OK... :-)

-p






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Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago

2010-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/21/2010 3:21 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

On 7/19/2010 4:30 PM, William Robb wrote:

We mistimed the PDML show.

William Robb


Apparently not, because you came and appeared in person.

:-)

Boris


are you sure the opposite isn't true?

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Re: PESO - Kensington Porches

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

Rick, is it /supposed/ to lean to the left?

On 7/10/2010 4:49 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Another from my photo walk in London in early May.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11206013

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/8 @ 1/45)

A bit trite, perhaps, but I love patterns like this and can't resist.

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Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/21/2010 2:19 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 7/21/2010 3:21 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

On 7/19/2010 4:30 PM, William Robb wrote:

We mistimed the PDML show.

William Robb


Apparently not, because you came and appeared in person.

:-)

Boris


are you sure the opposite isn't true?



I am non-negative...

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Re: PESO - Kensington Porches

2010-07-21 Thread Rick Womer
It doesn't.  The horizontals are horizontal, and the verticals converge because 
the camera wasn't horizontal.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Rick, is it /supposed/ to lean to the
 left?
 
 On 7/10/2010 4:49 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
  Another from my photo walk in London in early May.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11206013
 
  (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/8 @ 1/45)
 
  A bit trite, perhaps, but I love patterns like this
 and can't resist.
 
  Rick
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - In Another World

2010-07-21 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, right, my immediate thought was that you photographed a plastic human
 ;-). But then I looked closer and realized I was wrong.

 Well done, sir!

Thanks, Boris, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - A Tasty Morsel

2010-07-21 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:29 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


  I like beavers but I've never seen a real one up close ;-)

 Mark!

 (I worked very hard to not phrase my response to look anything like this...)

Yes, I'm quite proud of myself for ~not~ using juvenile tltles for
these.  So far so good.

I'm glad you all liked this one.  I think that in fact I did pick the
best one to show first.  I've got maybe two more I'll show when I get
the chance in a day or two - I'll put them together in a little GESO -
and that'll be it for the beavers for now.  At least until I see them
again.

Thanks for all the kind comments.  Glad you all liked this one.  And
thanks to all who looked and didn't comment.

cheers,
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Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago

2010-07-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 FYI:  July 25  - Oct 3.  Should be good-nearly 300 photographs.  Cheers,
 Christine


 http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/exhibition/cartierbressonmodern

Drool...

He's only my all-time photographic hero.

Hope you enjoy, Christine!

cheers,
frank

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Re: peso - hot diggitty dog

2010-07-21 Thread wendy beard
perfect timing!

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:14 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11289671size=lg

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Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Today is Belgium's national holiday. On Juli 21, 1831, King Leopold I
was introduced and Belgium was, so to speak, officially opened.

There wil be the usual parade in Brussels this afternoon, with King
Albert II, the armed forces, and the popuation, and there'll be la
drache nationale, the taditional rainshower going down on them all.
It's alreay on its way up from Northern France.

Une joyeuse fête nationale/een gelukkige nationale feestdag!

And may there be many more to come.

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Re: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

Happy Birthday, Belgium!

On 7/21/2010 2:44 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

Today is Belgium's national holiday. On Juli 21, 1831, King Leopold I
was introduced and Belgium was, so to speak, officially opened.

There wil be the usual parade in Brussels this afternoon, with King
Albert II, the armed forces, and the popuation, and there'll be la
drache nationale, the taditional rainshower going down on them all.
It's alreay on its way up from Northern France.

Une joyeuse fête nationale/een gelukkige nationale feestdag!

And may there be many more to come.

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Re: Manually focusing on the wrong sharp edge?

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/19/2010 10:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing,
and what they do to fix it.


Larry, unlike others in this thread, I use Katz Eye screen with focusing 
aids (split screen, etc). If opportunity presents itself I might try the 
KE screen without any aids, but stock screen of Pentax cameras, my eyes 
and A 50/1.2 don't work together at all.


I think that practice may help. Also apparently, sometimes it helps if 
shoot with the other eye wide open...


Boris

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RE: LR3 change

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
  it's possible that the new version has acquired enough extra bloat to
  make your machine too weak to run it. I had similar problems with a
  version of 2.x for a while, although they may have been exacerbated by
  possible hardware issues on the computer I was using. I've since
  bought another computer dedicated to LR, and it runs very nicely.
 
 My computer is not particularly powerful, but it seems to be above the
limits
 of minimal spec, and not below them. I agree that this can be a reason but
I
 would expect that in such a case the sucker would simply take longer to
load.
 If however, due to slow load it crashes, it smells like a bug to me.
 
 Boris

I seem to recall some time ago you were investigating the possibility of
access to the LR database outside of LR. Did you ever achieve that? If so
could you have, erm, invalidated the warranty somehow?

B


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RE: PESO - A Tasty Morsel

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
 
   I like beavers but I've never seen a real one up close ;-)
 
  Mark!
 
  (I worked very hard to not phrase my response to look anything like
  this...)
 
 Yes, I'm quite proud of myself for ~not~ using juvenile tltles for these.
So far
 so good.

You have to BEA VERy very careful to avoid that...




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Re: PESO - Al G at 92

2010-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely portrait shot. Needs a frame and wall

Dave

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Had a family gathering a couple weeks ago to celebrate Marcia's father's
 92nd birthday.

 http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage2.htm

 Cropped vertical from a horizontal image.

 Pentax K-X, 1/60, f/5.6, iso 800, Tamron 20-200 @ 100mm, AF-540FGZ bounced
 off the wall behind my right shoulder.

 Comments and suggestions OK... :-)

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread Walter Hamler
I have had mine for over a year now and couldn't be happier. The image
quality is astounding and it is very easy to use. I would recommend
the new model that has the built in flash and the available electronic
viewfinder.
You might also consider the newer Panasonic G2 I believe. A little
bigger but uses the same lenses, micro 4/3.

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Re: SoFoBoMo (and GESO) - Macquarie's Towns

2010-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
Great gallery.

I like this one,
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/MacquariesTowns/slides/_IGP7682j.html

but there are a many more to.:-)

Dave

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 Well, I had another go at SoFoBoMo* this year.  I chose a topic close to
 home but it was still a challenge to get 35+ photos that I was happy
 with to include in the 'book'.

 Anyway, if anyone would like to take a look, the book can be found here.

 http://www.sofobomo.org/book-279-Macquarie-s-Towns


 It's a 12 MB download so as an alternative there's a GESO of the images
 here:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/MacquariesTowns/index.html



 Comments, criticisms etc welcome.

 * SoFoBoMo (Solo Photo Book Month) is an idea that was initiated by Paul
 Butzi in 2008. It is a group event where photographers all make
 electronic photo books from start to finish, in 31 days. All of the
 books completed since 2008 can be downloaded from the SoFoBoMo website
 (http://www.sofobomo.org/HomePage).



 Cheers

 Brian
 
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Re: PESO - Kensington Porches

2010-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
I like the flow to this

Dave

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Another from my photo walk in London in early May.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11206013

 (K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 560, f/8 @ 1/45)

 A bit trite, perhaps, but I love patterns like this and can't resist.

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RE: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
Good old Leopold! If it hadn't been for him we would never have seen
Apocalypse Now!

There were Belgae living in Britain even before Caesar came here. They were
friends with the Parisii.  Caesar said the Belgae were the bravest of all
the Galic tribes because they were complete strangers to civilisation, and
were constantly at war with the Germans.

http://www.bulledair.com/planches/planche_asterix24_1107018323_4426d

And where would we be without lambic, gueuze, Jacques Brel and Poirot?

B

 
 Today is Belgium's national holiday. On Juli 21, 1831, King Leopold I was
 introduced and Belgium was, so to speak, officially opened.
 
 There wil be the usual parade in Brussels this afternoon, with King Albert
II,
 the armed forces, and the popuation, and there'll be la drache
nationale,
 the taditional rainshower going down on them all.
 It's alreay on its way up from Northern France.
 
 Une joyeuse fête nationale/een gelukkige nationale feestdag!
 
 And may there be many more to come.
 
 Ralf



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Re: LR3 change

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/21/2010 3:02 PM, Bob W wrote:

I seem to recall some time ago you were investigating the possibility of
access to the LR database outside of LR. Did you ever achieve that? If so
could you have, erm, invalidated the warranty somehow?

B


Two reasons why you are wrong this time, Bob:

1. LR3 rebuilt a brand new database from that of LR2 on my computer.
2. Actually, I did not do anything at all with the database files. I did 
not play with them, tweak them or modify them in any way.


Boris


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Re: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/21/2010 3:18 PM, Bob W wrote:

Good old Leopold! If it hadn't been for him we would never have seen
Apocalypse Now!

There were Belgae living in Britain even before Caesar came here. They were
friends with the Parisii.  Caesar said the Belgae were the bravest of all
the Galic tribes because they were complete strangers to civilisation, and
were constantly at war with the Germans.

http://www.bulledair.com/planches/planche_asterix24_1107018323_4426d

And where would we be without lambic, gueuze, Jacques Brel and Poirot?

B


You're forgetting Belgian Fries :-).

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Re: VOT: Roots

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

GATTACA the movie... It seems big brother even don't have to watch ;-).

Boris


On 7/7/2010 11:08 AM, Bob W wrote:

Here's quite an interesting story which could turn into something useful for
people such as Americans, Canadians and so on whose families came from
Europe many generations ago:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_east_and_fife/10520789.stm

In some cases, of course, a person's village of origin is encoded in their
surname...

Bob





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Re: OT - Kitchen remodel

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

Judging from the exposure info, your (kitchen) life became brighter...

:-)

Boris


On 6/19/2010 8:53 AM, John Francis wrote:


As regular readers of this list might know, I've been living
in the middle of a kitchen remodel for the last month or so.
It's now nearing completion (after only losing around a week
to unexpected problems - that's not all that bad).  We are
eagerly awaiting a chance to use what we spent the money on.
I told my wife that we could have got his-and-hers 645Ds
(heck, we could have got new his-and-hers MINIs), but she
wasn't impressed.

I've documented some of the changes on my Picture-A-Week site.
Here's the before picture:

 http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW1019

and here's the way things look today:

 http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW1024

There are a few other pictures there as well, showing some
of the intermediate stages.  I'll be adding a few more after
tomorrow when the cooktop is connected and the refrigerator
and dishwasher are installed.  After that we'll still have
to finish off by adding tile, and repainting the walls, but
at least we'll have a kitchen (and dishwasher!) again.





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Re: PESO - voice

2010-07-21 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-21 5:13, Bob W wrote:


you have to learn about things like labiodental fricatives first.


Just watch out for the bilabial fricatives.

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Re: Sun-drenched shutters

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/4/2010 12:51 AM, Cotty wrote:

Bob there were half a dozen in that excellent gallery that exceeded all
expectation - simply superb. You know what's nice about this list, you
know people for many years but when you see their work get better and
better all the time, it's very inspiring - we must all feel the same.
Just fabulous work mate - well done.

The blokes on the bench is sheer poetry


What Cotty said. I totally agree - superb gallery.

Boris

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Re: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 And where would we be without lambic, gueuze, Jacques Brel and Poirot?

Not to forget Tintin, Lucky Luke, Toots Thielemans, the Brothers
Dardenne, and surrealism. 

A whole lot of great things and people for a rather small country. :-)

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Re: Eneloops again and again

2010-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Like Merlin, I am backwards in Time.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Paul Dunderdale dund...@mcb.net wrote:
 ... and a Tardis?


 On 20 Jul 2010, at 19:35, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 I bought a package deal of 12 Eneloop 2000mah AA, 4 LaCrosse 2600mah
 AA and 4 LaCross 1000mah AAA batteries with the LaCrosse BC-900
 charger in December 2010.

 Paul


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Re: PESO cropping advice sought - Kuantan Mosque detail

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Ecke, I am voting, although late, for Gentle Crop version, but perhaps 
you ought to reshoot, 'cause your original frame is too busy...


Boris

On 6/29/2010 9:21 PM, eckinator wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/EckeThump3
http://preview.tinyurl.com/EckeThump3
Your input is very much appreciated as I am rather unsure how
aggressively to crop here - right now I like the gentler crop better.
That one is also on my eckinator.posterous.com
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Re: PESO - Al G at 92

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Sorenson

Thanks, Boris.  I'll pass that along to Marcia...

-p

On 7/21/2010 6:11 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Paul, very well done. I am thinking that passing regards to Marcia 
with note that she has certain resemblance to her father would be in 
order here...


Boris



On 7/7/2010 2:51 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Had a family gathering a couple weeks ago to celebrate Marcia's father's
92nd birthday.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage2.htm

Cropped vertical from a horizontal image.

Pentax K-X, 1/60, f/5.6, iso 800, Tamron 20-200 @ 100mm, AF-540FGZ
bounced off the wall behind my right shoulder.

Comments and suggestions OK... :-)

-p








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Re: PESO - Al G at 92

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Sorenson
Thanks, Dave.  I matted and framed it and offered it to Marcia for her 
home office.  She agreed it was a good pix of her Dad, but declined, 
saying she didn't want her father staring down at her all the time.  
Guess I'll have to put it up on the wall in my own office. :-)


-p

On 7/21/2010 7:09 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Lovely portrait shot. Needs a frame and wall

Dave

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Paul Sorensonallarou...@earthlink.net  wrote:
   

Had a family gathering a couple weeks ago to celebrate Marcia's father's
92nd birthday.

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/quickpage/quickpage2.htm

Cropped vertical from a horizontal image.

Pentax K-X, 1/60, f/5.6, iso 800, Tamron 20-200 @ 100mm, AF-540FGZ bounced
off the wall behind my right shoulder.

Comments and suggestions OK... :-)

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Re: Help ... advice on m42 extension tubes

2010-07-21 Thread Sam L
 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:17 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 These will only work properly with M42 screw mount lenses.  Pentax stopped
 making lenses in this mount in the mid 1970s.  To use them on any K mount
 camera either film or digital you will have to get a Pentax M42 to K mount
 adapter.  Some third party adapters compromise infintiy focus, but that
 probably isn't an issue for macro shooting with extension tubes.  It will be
 if you wish to not use the tubes.  If you want to use these with some of the
 later film cameras, mostly the low end MZ/ZX series film cameras, won't even
 allow you to fire their shutters without an A mount or later lens.  The only
 relatively high level camera you have to worry about not working is the Film
 *ist.  I may have forgotten something but I'm sure others will fill in or
 contradict me if I'm wrong, or if they just feel contrary.


A detail that I had left out is that I already have a bunch of m42
super taks growing in my closet and am somewhat used to shooting them
on my K-x.


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Re: PESO Langdale pano

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

I don't care about the join, but I marvel at how peaceful is the scene.

Boris


On 6/26/2010 2:33 PM, mike wilson wrote:

Took some snaps at a friend's wedding last weekend.  At the end of the
day, the view from our hotel room was...

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/langdalepanocopy.jpg

Two-shot hand-held pano, ~750KB

Can you see the join?




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Re: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Richard D Bush

Love listening to Toots Thielemans and I'm a woodwind player.

RB

On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


And where would we be without lambic, gueuze, Jacques Brel and Poirot?


Not to forget Tintin, Lucky Luke, Toots Thielemans, the Brothers
Dardenne, and surrealism.

A whole lot of great things and people for a rather small country. :-)

Ralf

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Re: GESO cloudy day seascapes

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman

That shot with the green ball is pretty neat, Christine.



On 6/18/2010 6:14 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

we were at a dog beach on a cloudy day.  I've always loved cloudy,
windy, and cool days at the beach.

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/sea/


comments welcome. cheers, christine





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Re: Peso - Metro-North

2010-07-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Ann, it looks good in color. The idea of b/w conversion does not occur 
to me as I look at it!


Boris



On 6/18/2010 6:43 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Took the Pentax lens with me on an overnight to visit friends a couple
of hours north of NYC...

and got this on the way from the train window.

(yes, I did convert it to BW, too, but like it better in color)

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/904798116_h8SiL/Large


http://tinyurl.com/2ako6e8


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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The E-PL1 is a pretty darn good camera. The Olympus optional EVF is a
nicer viewfinder than the Panasonic optional EVF for the GF1. To me
that makes the difference between them, although there are some
aspects of the GF1 controls and layout I find more to my liking.
However, between these two, the Olympus viewfinder trumps those minor
inconveniences.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 I'm trying to persuade my wife to move up to something better
 than her old Casio Exilim.  I'm tempted by the Micro 4/3 systems,
 and the Olympus E-PL1 seems to have the ease of use and simplicity
 that my wife is looking for (without being so large that she would
 refuse to carry it around) at a pretty decent price.  Even with an
 extra lens (the 40-150) it's still cheaper than the Panasonic, and
 has in-body image stabilisation.  The optional electronic view-
 finder might be interesting, too, although it's more likely to be
 something that I would use than something my wife would consider.


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Re: A new tradition

2010-07-21 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 20, 2010, at 18:36, wendy beard wrote:

 24 years ago, I took my daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
 Last Monday, I took my daughter's daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
 To make it a true tradition, I suppose I should have used the same Pentax  :-)
 But anyway, here she is: Serina Josephine Groen
 
 http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/126577914

Very nice.  Beautiful!  

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Re: PESO - Porch

2010-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
Nice shadow detiail

Dave

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 This is the porch of the bookstore that was OPEN per my previous PESO.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11294974size=lg

 (K7, DA 16-45)

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RE: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W
  And where would we be without lambic, gueuze, Jacques Brel and Poirot?
 
 Not to forget Tintin, Lucky Luke, Toots Thielemans, the Brothers Dardenne,
 and surrealism.
 
 A whole lot of great things and people for a rather small country. :-)
 
 Ralf

Belgium is like a branch office of Hungary.




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RE: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Bob W

 
  And where would we be without lambic, gueuze, Jacques Brel and Poirot?
 
  B
 
 You're forgetting Belgian Fries :-).
 

English invention!




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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread Dario Bonazza

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


The E-PL1 is a pretty darn good camera. The Olympus optional EVF is a
nicer viewfinder than the Panasonic optional EVF for the GF1. To me
that makes the difference between them, although there are some
aspects of the GF1 controls and layout I find more to my liking.
However, between these two, the Olympus viewfinder trumps those minor
inconveniences.


Having used the 5D MkII + EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L zoom lens for a while, I 
find the reverse operation of the Canon zoom rings rather odd: when you try 
opening the scene by turning counterclockwise, you end up zooming in on 
the subject, when you want to zoom in, you get a wider framing!
The same happens with Olympus 4/3  m4/3 lenses. I believe the correct 
zoom rotation of the Panasonic lenses will be enough a reason for me for 
choosing Panasonic instead of Olympus. Yes, the only two players of the 4/3 
m4/3 standard didn't standardize the zoom ring rotation!


BTW, the EF f/2.8 24-70mm USM L is quite a dog of a lens, mainly due to its 
heavy field curvature. It features good flare resistance and nice bokeh 
though.


Dario


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Re: A new tradition

2010-07-21 Thread John Graves





On 7/20/2010 6:36 PM, wendy beard wrote:

24 years ago, I took my daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
Last Monday, I took my daughter's daughter's first photograph with a 
Pentax.
To make it a true tradition, I suppose I should have used the same 
Pentax  :-)

But anyway, here she is: Serina Josephine Groen

http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/126577914
  






Wendy.Beautiful picture!  May you do the next in the series.


John G. 




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Re: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Belgium is like a branch office of Hungary.

I'd always take Thielemans and surrealism over Czardas and a ballpoint
pen. ;-)

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Re: PESO Noisy Miner

2010-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rob,
The feather detail is spectacular.
Nice of him to pose for you!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 A very good capture!
 Lighting, focus and exposure appear spot on.
 Love the captured feather detail.
 The grate its on and the cutoff tail are minor distractions.


 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO Noisy Miner


 Hi Team,

 I haven't posted a bird pic for years but this one amused me, it's a
 rather agitated native Noisy Miner. They are ferociously territorial
 and I obviously stepped over the line, I was being dive bombed and
 generally hassled but I caught this shot as it was eyeing me off for
 the next assault.

 The image was shot hand held using my K-x and FA200/2.8 @ F3.2, 1/400,
 ISO 1250, the K-x AF was no match for this guy.

 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGX02127.jpg

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noisy_Miner

 Hope you enjoy.

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 08:09:48AM -0400, Walter Hamler wrote:
 I have had mine for over a year now and couldn't be happier. The image
 quality is astounding and it is very easy to use. I would recommend
 the new model that has the built in flash and the available electronic
 viewfinder.

I believe you're talking about the EP1 (and the new model, the EP2).
Blame Olympus for the confusing nomenclature. I'm looking at the E-PL1
(the dumbed-down model, with less buttons to push).  It also offers
the option of the EVF.  It's a pretty new camera - only on the market
for a couple of months now - and comes at an attractive price.

 You might also consider the newer Panasonic G2 I believe. A little
 bigger but uses the same lenses, micro 4/3.

A little bigger might be a stumbling block, but I'll take a look at it.
Thanks for the suggestion.


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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:03:35AM +0100, Bob W wrote:
  I'm trying to persuade my wife to move up to something better than her old
  Casio Exilim.  I'm tempted by the Micro 4/3 systems, and the Olympus E-PL1
  seems to have the ease of use and simplicity that my wife is looking for
  (without being so large that she would refuse to carry it around) at a
 pretty
  decent price.  Even with an extra lens (the 40-150) it's still cheaper
 than the
  Panasonic, and has in-body image stabilisation.  The optional electronic
 view-
  finder might be interesting, too, although it's more likely to be
 something
  that I would use than something my wife would consider.
 
 if I was looking at that sort of camera I would also take a long hard look
 at the Lumix GF-1.

OK - that's another camera to take a look at.  Thanks, Bob.


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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread John Francis

That's good information Godfrey.  Nice to know that it passes
your sniff test - that makes me fairly confident it will do
everything that I expect from it.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 07:27:28AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 The E-PL1 is a pretty darn good camera. The Olympus optional EVF is a
 nicer viewfinder than the Panasonic optional EVF for the GF1. To me
 that makes the difference between them, although there are some
 aspects of the GF1 controls and layout I find more to my liking.
 However, between these two, the Olympus viewfinder trumps those minor
 inconveniences.
 
 On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 
  I'm trying to persuade my wife to move up to something better
  than her old Casio Exilim. ?I'm tempted by the Micro 4/3 systems,
  and the Olympus E-PL1 seems to have the ease of use and simplicity
  that my wife is looking for (without being so large that she would
  refuse to carry it around) at a pretty decent price. ?Even with an
  extra lens (the 40-150) it's still cheaper than the Panasonic, and
  has in-body image stabilisation. ?The optional electronic view-
  finder might be interesting, too, although it's more likely to be
  something that I would use than something my wife would consider.
 
 
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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 09:46:24PM -0700, gldnbearz wrote:
 I got mine approx 2 weeks ago. Still getting used to it, but the size
 is definitely in its favor.  I like being able to zoom manually
 instead of electronically.  There are days when I reached for a
 zoom/tele button like a digi PS b/c that's what the form feels like
 in my hand. In-body IS is what made me choose this over the Panasonic
 version, as well as the Olympus lenses being smaller.  Also sensor
 being larger than that in a PS (i.e., Canon G10 which I didn't
 connect with) is another good thing.

That's pretty much my thinking, too. Thanks for checking it for me :-)

I've taken a look at the sample image gallery on dpreview, and it
looks pretty good. Many of the images there are taken with the 14-42
lens (which is what my wife would want), and even pixel-peeping shows
no show-stopper flaws.  Performance at ISO 1600 looks fine, too (the
last image in the gallery, at ISO 1600, may be of particular interest
to a Pentax list).


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Takumar vs Super Takumar ??

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry in Arizona
I am thinking of acquiring some older M42 prime lenses to use on my K20D.  I 
seem to remember that the Super Takumars were considered a step back in quality 
and optics from the Takumars.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?  Have not 
decided which lengths to focus on, prob just on what is available and what I 
can 
afford.  Anything else I should watch for, like coatings?

Jerry

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Re: Eneloops again and again

2010-07-21 Thread mike wilson

Joseph McAllister wrote:

The 3 year old new uncharged eneloops I installed in my Mighty Mouse  
gave it up after 5 days yesterday. They started out at 50% power level.


Just recharged pair I put in the mouse yesterday show 61% power today  
(didn't look yesterday after installation).


My keyboard with 4 Costco AA show 62% after 3 months of not being  
turned off at all. The mouse is shut off overnight, for 8-10 hours.


Just FYI. I know you couldn't care less, but I said I's tell you!   :-)


Pentax UK very kindly gave me 4 AA Eneloops and a charger when I bought 
the KX.  They haven't been used because I was also given a set of 
disposables and, at about 1500+ exposures, they are still going strong.


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Re: Takumar vs Super Takumar ??

2010-07-21 Thread CheekyGeek
Frankly, I would not worry much about the slight differences between
them. They are all superb fun. If you find one reasonably priced BUY
IT.

Take for example the 50mm f1.4. I learned on this list just a few days
ago that there are two versions of the Super Takumar, an earlier 8
element design and a later 7. The 7 element design continued up to the
last SMC Takumar and only the coatings changed. I suppose the
conventional wisdom would be that the coatings only got better over
time, but some people actually desire the earliest model for
portraiture BECAUSE it is a bit softer wide open.

There is nothing like the feeling of the old Taks (any of them) and I
especially appreciate that they are designed to NOT ROLL OFF your
table top.
:)

Darren Addy
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PESOs Wedding party

2010-07-21 Thread mike wilson
Two weeks ago I snapped a wedding for a couple.  Last weekend, I did the 
same for the wedding party, which they held after coming back from 
honeymoon.


There was another photographer at the party and I surreptitiously took 
some pics of her.


Compose and focus:
http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/party/pages/IMGP1314.htm

Chimp:
http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/party/pages/IMGP1315.htm

Meh...:
http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/party/pages/IMGP1317.htm

The picture?
http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/partyII/pages/IMGP8883.htm

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Re: Takumar vs Super Takumar ??

2010-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Often Super Taks were identical optical formulas to the SMC Taks that 
replaced them.  The SMC Taks only having improved coatings with improved 
flare resistance.


On 7/21/2010 12:16 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

I am thinking of acquiring some older M42 prime lenses to use on my K20D.  I
seem to remember that the Super Takumars were considered a step back in quality
and optics from the Takumars.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?  Have not
decided which lengths to focus on, prob just on what is available and what I can
afford.  Anything else I should watch for, like coatings?

Jerry

   



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Re: Takumar vs Super Takumar ??

2010-07-21 Thread Adam Maas
The Super Takumars are generally a step up in quality over the older
Takumars and Auto Takumars, and the SMC Takumars are generally either
the same as the Supers with better coatings or another step up.

That said, anything older than a Super Takumar is going to be relatively rare.

-Adam

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Jerry in Arizona glewis4...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am thinking of acquiring some older M42 prime lenses to use on my K20D.  I
 seem to remember that the Super Takumars were considered a step back in 
 quality
 and optics from the Takumars.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?  Have not
 decided which lengths to focus on, prob just on what is available and what I 
 can
 afford.  Anything else I should watch for, like coatings?

 Jerry

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Re: Manually focusing on the wrong sharp edge?

2010-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 7/19/2010 10:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 I'm curious if other people have this problem when manually focusing,
 and what they do to fix it.
 
 Larry, unlike others in this thread, I use Katz Eye screen with focusing aids 
 (split screen, etc). If opportunity presents itself I might try the KE screen 
 without any aids, but stock screen of Pentax cameras, my eyes and A 50/1.2 
 don't work together at all.

I found that the stock screens did not work at all well for me for manual 
focusing, and that the katzeye screens really help.  I think that the stock 
screens are optimized for autofocus.  Unfortunately the Pentax autofocus system 
seems to be optimized for manual focus.

Autofocus on the K-x is especially troublesome in this situation because 
without the light up dots, I can't tell what it's focusing on. That and the 
fact that in the light I need it, by the time the camera focuses, whatever I 
wanted to take a picture of is 3 seconds in the past.

There is an aspect of the split screen that it allows your eye to focus on what 
is in the center of the screen, no matter how out of focus it is.

 
 I think that practice may help. Also apparently, sometimes it helps if shoot 
 with the other eye wide open...
 
 Boris
 
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RE: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread Chris Mitchell

Walter Hamler wrote
 Sent: 21 July 2010 13:10
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
 
 I have had mine for over a year now and couldn't be happier. The image
 quality is astounding and it is very easy to use. I would recommend
 the new model that has the built in flash and the available electronic
 viewfinder.
 You might also consider the newer Panasonic G2 I believe. A little
 bigger but uses the same lenses, micro 4/3.
 
 Walt

We've just got my wife a G2. The body is a little bigger than the Pen and
the GF-1, but overall it's only about .25 deeper. Still goes in a (large)
handbag.

Pros - built in EVF (higher resolution than the addon ones), The LCD display
rotates and it comes in a fetching shade of blue (thereby meeting one of
Karin's key selection criteria).

Cons - slightly larger and anti-shake is built into the lens, not the body.
Oh, and the world's worst manual.

We've got a K-mount adaptor so my old manual lenses have a new lease of life
and the FA* 300 4.5 becomes a 600 4.5 on the MFT system. I'll post some
pictures one day. Sorry, I mean I'll get Karin to post some pictures one
day. She has to continue to believe that it's her camera and not a sneaky
new toy for me to use when I feel like it.

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RE: On pun and fun

2010-07-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Boris Liberman

There is an English word - fun. And then there is a word _fun_ny. Now,
there is another English word - pun. Am I right that _pun_ny is not a
legal word?


Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary lists it; constituting or involving a 
pun


Inflected forms are punnier and punniest

Can't check the Oxford English Dictionary because I don't have a 
subscription.


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Peso: NYC mailbox

2010-07-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
If you live in the USA you'll get the problem here.  That's a USPS drop 
box on the right.

alternate caption Maybe not so funny

sorry about no Tinyurl... my tiny url button seems to have 
disappeared... hmm and just after I updated Firefox last nite..



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/942661062_V4xEs/Medium

I have a serious mailboxes photo from the old days... I'll get that up 
for the July PUG eventually.


comments welcome  - but really this is just a comment in itself :)

ann



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Re: PESO- roof top wind turbines

2010-07-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:32 PM, p...@philnortheast.com wrote:

 The latest addition to Hobart's skyline is causing controversy - some say
 the turbines are unsightly.
 
 
 http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/rooftopturbines.htm

It would be hard to make that building much uglier than it started out.  As 
such it is also hard to get a pretty photo of it.

I don't see anything wrong with the photo technically, and it's a great 
documentation shot of the building and turbines.  I think that it would be 
quite a challenge to get a pretty shot of such an ugly building without playing 
detail shot games.


 
 K10D - 21mm Limited  f7.1 @  1/400
 
 There has been some correction in Bibble5 for optical characteristics of
 the lens.

How do you like bibble 5?   Since I converted to using lightroom, I haven't 
upgraded my bibble 4.10 yet and tried it out.


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Re: PESO Noisy Miner

2010-07-21 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:12:14AM +1000, Rob Studdert wrote:
 Hi Team,
 
 I haven't posted a bird pic for years but this one amused me, it's a
 rather agitated native Noisy Miner. They are ferociously territorial
 and I obviously stepped over the line, I was being dive bombed and
 generally hassled but I caught this shot as it was eyeing me off for
 the next assault.
 
 The image was shot hand held using my K-x and FA200/2.8 @ F3.2, 1/400,
 ISO 1250, the K-x AF was no match for this guy.
 
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~aglcnews/temp/IMGX02127.jpg
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noisy_Miner
 
 Hope you enjoy.

Nicely caught and the detail is great.

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Re: PESO- roof top wind turbines

2010-07-21 Thread CheekyGeek
Wind turbines unsightly?
Depends upon what you are comparing it to:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/An_oil_rig_offshore_Vungtau.jpg

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Re: Feed Us Your Photoblog

2010-07-21 Thread wendy beard
I don't update as much as I should, but I usually post the best shots
from events. I'm pretty pleased with the latest set of dockdogs images

http://www.muddypawz.net/blog

personal site
http://www.beard-redfern.com

Wendy

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:32 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:
 Traffic's been kinda slow lately, so I figure now is the time to post
 something like this:

 If you've got a photoblog, post your blog's URL and RSS feed URL (if you
 have one).  Feel free to describe what you post or other info, but keep
 it brief.

 Feed URL would be preferable, I think, because keeping up with blogs is
 so much easier with an RSS Reader (I use Google Reader, but there are
 other options out there).

 To start things off, here's mine:

 Blog: http://blog.neovenator.com (mirrored at
 http://neovenator.livejournal.com)
 RSS: http://feeds.feedburner.com/neovenator/BxVy
 Details: I post one photo every weekday, and I try to keep text to a
 minimum.


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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread gldnbearz
Hi Walt-

I think maybe you are talking about the EP1 (which has been out a year
or so) and John is looking at the EPL1 (which came out w/in the last
few months). The EPL1 comes with the built-in flash, but neither the
EP1 nor EP2 has it.  As for the EVF, both the EP2 and EPL1 can use it.

Pat

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have had mine for over a year now and couldn't be happier. The image
 quality is astounding and it is very easy to use. I would recommend
 the new model that has the built in flash and the available electronic
 viewfinder.
 You might also consider the newer Panasonic G2 I believe. A little
 bigger but uses the same lenses, micro 4/3.

 Walt

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread gldnbearz
Yes, I noted early on that the way the zoom ring turns on the EPL1 is
opposite that on the Pentax.  I keep zooming in when I mean to zoom
out  vice versa.  If you've never gotten used to how a zoom ring
works, this might not be a bother.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Having used the 5D MkII + EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L zoom lens for a while, I
 find the reverse operation of the Canon zoom rings rather odd: when you try
 opening the scene by turning counterclockwise, you end up zooming in on
 the subject, when you want to zoom in, you get a wider framing!
 The same happens with Olympus 4/3  m4/3 lenses. I believe the correct
 zoom rotation of the Panasonic lenses will be enough a reason for me for
 choosing Panasonic instead of Olympus. Yes, the only two players of the 4/3
 m4/3 standard didn't standardize the zoom ring rotation!

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Re: Peso: NYC mailbox

2010-07-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Interesting.  I think it's a viral advertisement for the blog spray 
painted on the mailbox.  The alternate title would fit better, I just 
visited the blog, and Funny?  Not so much.  Maybe if I were doing drugs.


On 7/21/2010 1:48 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
If you live in the USA you'll get the problem here.  That's a USPS 
drop box on the right.

alternate caption Maybe not so funny

sorry about no Tinyurl... my tiny url button seems to have 
disappeared... hmm and just after I updated Firefox last nite..



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/2564371_i3HHm/1/942661062_V4xEs/Medium 



I have a serious mailboxes photo from the old days... I'll get that up 
for the July PUG eventually.


comments welcome  - but really this is just a comment in itself :)

ann






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Re: A new tradition

2010-07-21 Thread Ken Waller

Ah, the innocence...

Great capture.

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- Original Message - 
From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

Subject: RE: A new tradition



24 years ago, I took my daughter's first photograph with a Pentax.
Last Monday, I took my daughter's daughter's first photograph with a

Pentax.

To make it a true tradition, I suppose I should have used the same Pentax

:-)

But anyway, here she is: Serina Josephine Groen

http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/126577914


lovely shot, even though she doesn't look very interested in your camera!

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Re: HCB at the Art Institute Chicago

2010-07-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer wrote:

No, I think we should blame it on Christine for not arranging the HCB show to 
coincide with the PDML show!

(Or maybe she tried, and the Art Institute thought the PDML would give them 
too much competition...)

Seriously, I think we would have had more list members make the trip
to Chicago if it had been the HCB exhibit coinciding with our little
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Re: Happy 21st of Juli, Belgium!

2010-07-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

Today is Belgium's national holiday. On Juli 21, 1831, King Leopold I
was introduced and Belgium was, so to speak, officially opened.

The pub across the road from me specializes in Belgian beers and
they're having a celebration in which everyone who buys a Duvel gets
the official glass in comes in. I'll definitely be stopping by!


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Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-21 Thread Eric Weir

I'm running Lightroom 3 on a MacBook. I can find the application anywhere in 
the Application folder. Adobe Reader, Adobe Bridge, Adobe Elements are there, 
but not Lightroom. There is a Light room folder in my Pictures folder, but the 
only thing in it are two files, one called Lightroom 3 Catalog 
Previews.lrdata and one called Lightroom 3 Catalog.lrcat.

Anybody know where the Lightroom folder/app is on my machine?

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Moving folders that have been imported into Lightroom

2010-07-21 Thread Eric Weir

Elementary question that probably should be addressed by getting a book and 
doing an online course on managing files and photos in Lightroom, which I will 
do soon; but for now: 

I've decided I'd like to keep my Lightroom managed files on a USB hardrive. 
I've imported only two not very important folders -- they're not even my own 
images -- into Lightroom, but they are are on the hard drive of my machine. 

How can I move them. I don't see a way in Lightroom itself. My thought is to 
delete the folders from within Lightroom and then reimport them after I've got 
all my folders onto the USB hard drive.

Is there anything wrong with that way of going about it?

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Re: Manually focusing on the wrong sharp edge?

2010-07-21 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-07-21 13:13, Larry Colen wrote:


Unfortunately the Pentax autofocus system seems to be
optimized for manual focus.


MARK! :-)

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Chris Mitchell
chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 ... [G2] ... - built in EVF (higher resolution than the addon ones) ...

Just for accuracy:

The G1, GH1 and G2 all have the same built-in EVF module with the same specs.
The GF1 is capable of using a Panasonic EVF clip-on accessory finder.
The Olympus E-P2 and E-PL1 are both capable of using the same Olympus
EVF accessory finder.

The Olympus EVF accessory has approximately the same resolution as the
Panasonic G1/G2/GH1 built-in EVF module, but it is a different
technology. The Olympus EVF optical system results in slightly lower
magnification than Panasonic opted for the built-in EVF. Both are
quite good with slightly different imaging characteristics. Some
people prefer one over the other. To my eye, they are much of
sameness, just a slightly different look and feel.

The Panasonic GF1 accessory is a lower resolution, slower refresh
device. It is still useful, but does not have the near optical
clarity and smoothness in operation of either the higher end EVFs
built-into the Panasonic G1/G2/GH1 or the Olympus accessory EVF.

...

The G2 is a good incremental update of the G1 body, I spent some time
working with it and the E-PL1 (both belonging to friends of mine) a
few weeks back. Aside from the much talked about touch screen control
(which is remarkably useful) and video features, for those like me who
use Micro-FourThirds bodies as a complement to FourThirds SLR system,
the G2 is capable of providing auto-focus with almost all Olympus and
Panasonic FourThirds SLR lenses.

The only glitch for me is that the G2 does not support using the
Olympus EC14 teleconverter at all, which means I still can't use the
35 Macro+EC14 combination for 1.4:1 macro magnification or the 50
Macro+EC14 for a useful 70mm f/2.8 focal length lens. If Panasonic's
next models out still don't support the EC14, I'll likely buy an E-P2
body + EVF as this teleconverter with my current Olympus/Panasonic SLR
lens kit is an essential piece that I depend upon. I have an
alternative lens in this focal length and speed, but as good as it is
it is not up to the quality of the Olympus ZD lens combination. If
Panasonic releases a higher end body with weather sealing and this
capability, it will pretty much obviate my need for the SLR bodies
completely.
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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Having used the 5D MkII + EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L zoom lens for a while, I
 find the reverse operation of the Canon zoom rings rather odd: when you try
 opening the scene by turning counterclockwise, you end up zooming in on
 the subject, when you want to zoom in, you get a wider framing!
 The same happens with Olympus 4/3  m4/3 lenses. I believe the correct
 zoom rotation of the Panasonic lenses will be enough a reason for me for
 choosing Panasonic instead of Olympus. Yes, the only two players of the 4/3
 m4/3 standard didn't standardize the zoom ring rotation!

Hmm. I've never noticed they were different ... despite using
Panasonic and Olympus zooms for three+ years. I don't remember which
way Pentax zoom rings turned, or Nikon or Canon either. My hands
figure this out for me and I don't think about it. ;-)

 BTW, the EF f/2.8 24-70mm USM L is quite a dog of a lens, mainly due to its
 heavy field curvature. It features good flare resistance and nice bokeh
 though.

I had that lens for a bit when I had Canon gear. I remember it as
doing quite a nice job, but I hated carrying it around ... it was huge
and heavy, particularly with the hood fitted. And it was one of those
dumb lenses that get physically bigger as the focal length gets
smaller, which makes them a handful when you're working wide and in
tight with your subject. I sold it and bought the 28/1.8+50/1.4+100/2,
which did a much better job for me.

A couple of wedding photographers I know love that lens, however.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-21 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

 Anybody know where the Lightroom folder/app is on my machine?

Following up on this, the Adobe Updater just asked if I wanted to update Adobe 
Camera Raw 4.6. I said yes. Then the Updater said it was unable to locate the 
product to be updated. I take it the product to be updated was Lightroom 3. 

So not only can I not find it, neither can the Adobe Updater. Yet it's here 
somewhere. Gotta be. It runs.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-21 Thread Doug Brewer

Eric Weir wrote:

On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Eric Weir wrote:


Anybody know where the Lightroom folder/app is on my machine?


Following up on this, the Adobe Updater just asked if I wanted to update Adobe Camera Raw 4.6. I said yes. Then the Updater said it was unable to locate the product to be updated. I take it the product to be updated was Lightroom 3. 


So not only can I not find it, neither can the Adobe Updater. Yet it's here 
somewhere. Gotta be. It runs.

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RE: Takumar vs Super Takumar ??

2010-07-21 Thread J.C. O'Connell
takumars are single coated manual aperture lenses for the most part.
Super takumars were single coated with automatic apertures. the 
final smc takumars were smc coated. Those are the most desireable
especially on lenses with a lot of elements like zooms or wide angles.

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Frankly, I would not worry much about the slight differences between them.
They are all superb fun. If you find one reasonably priced BUY IT.

Take for example the 50mm f1.4. I learned on this list just a few days ago
that there are two versions of the Super Takumar, an earlier 8 element
design and a later 7. The 7 element design continued up to the last SMC
Takumar and only the coatings changed. I suppose the conventional wisdom
would be that the coatings only got better over time, but some people
actually desire the earliest model for portraiture BECAUSE it is a bit
softer wide open.

There is nothing like the feeling of the old Taks (any of them) and I
especially appreciate that they are designed to NOT ROLL OFF your table top.
:)

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Re: Moving folders that have been imported into Lightroom

2010-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There's nothing wrong with deleting and then reimporting them after
you've moved them ... but of course, you'll lose all the editing
history and information you might have added by working with the files
in Lightroom already.

The way to move the files, for modest batches of files like this, is
to work within Lightroom. I'm using LR 2.7 to describe this, I don't
have LR3 running on this machine at present.

- In the Library module, click on the + symbol on the Folder panel title bar.
- A drop down menu will appear, choose Add Folder...
- Navigate to the volume where you want to put the files.
- Create a new folder there, then click OK.

Note that (if it wasn't already in the Folder panel) the new volume
and new folder you just created now appear in the Folder panel.

- Click on the folder that you wanted to move there in the Folder
panel and drag it to the new location.

Lightroom will warn you that it will be moving the files on disk.
Click OK and it will do the job for you, deleting the files from the
old location and creating them in the new location.

It's best to organize your image file repository as a single
directory tree on whatever volume you want to put it on. For instance,
at the top level of my data drive, I have a folder named
Photo-Files, under which I have folders by year, under which I have
in-progress. My original files are placed into date-ordered
sub-folders of their appropriate year's in-progress directory. This
allows me to show the entire tree in the Folder panel and move entire
trees easily from one location to another, when needed.

On my website at http://www.gdgphoto.com/articles/, article #8
discusses an efficient way to move very large numbers of files when
necessary. Lightroom isn't particularly efficient when doing this to
huge volumes of files so there are techniques for doing it using
efficient OS file system tools in combination with how to re-connect
Lightroom to the file repository properly and without loss of data.

enjoy!

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Elementary question that probably should be addressed by getting a book and 
 doing an online course on managing files and photos in Lightroom, which I 
 will do soon; but for now:

 I've decided I'd like to keep my Lightroom managed files on a USB hardrive. 
 I've imported only two not very important folders -- they're not even my own 
 images -- into Lightroom, but they are are on the hard drive of my machine.

 How can I move them. I don't see a way in Lightroom itself. My thought is to 
 delete the folders from within Lightroom and then reimport them after I've 
 got all my folders onto the USB hard drive.

 Is there anything wrong with that way of going about it?

 Thanks,
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Re: LR3 change

2010-07-21 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-21 04:15 , Boris Liberman wrote:

My computer is not particularly powerful, but it seems to be above the
limits of minimal spec, and not below them. I agree that this can be a
reason but I would expect that in such a case the sucker would simply
take longer to load.


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

 Anybody know where the Lightroom folder/app is on my machine?

 Following up on this, the Adobe Updater just asked if I wanted to update 
 Adobe Camera Raw 4.6. I said yes. Then the Updater said it was unable to 
 locate the product to be updated. I take it the product to be updated was 
 Lightroom 3.

 So not only can I not find it, neither can the Adobe Updater. Yet it's here 
 somewhere. Gotta be. It runs.

If you installed Lightroom using the Adobe installer and without
changing the default setting, the Lightroom application will be in the
Mac OS X path
/Applications/Adobe Lightroom 3.app

Adobe Camera Raw is a plugin located in different places depending on
which version of Photoshop or Photoshop Elements you have installed.
It is not used by Lightroom at all. Lightroom's raw processing engine
is organized internally within the Lightroom application bundle and
only updated with updates to the Lightroom application.
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Re: PESOs Wedding party

2010-07-21 Thread David J Brooks
Cute, and well documented

Dave

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:54 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Two weeks ago I snapped a wedding for a couple.  Last weekend, I did the
 same for the wedding party, which they held after coming back from
 honeymoon.

 There was another photographer at the party and I surreptitiously took some
 pics of her.

 Compose and focus:
 http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/party/pages/IMGP1314.htm

 Chimp:
 http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/party/pages/IMGP1315.htm

 Meh...:
 http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/party/pages/IMGP1317.htm

 The picture?
 http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/partyII/pages/IMGP8883.htm

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