Re: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> I've been looking into ways of stuffing my Leica safely into my saddlebag
> for the daily commute so I can use the camera at lunchtimes around the
> fascinating area where I'm working. While talking to someone in the local
> Leica pushers yesterday I had the idea of using the minute screwmount 35/3.5
> Elmar, which lies almost flush against the camera body.
>
> This is the one I tried - it was made in 1935 according to the serial
> number:
> < http://www.theclassiccamera.com/product_details_2560.htm>
>
> Here's one of the sample pictures I took. This is the whole frame:
> < http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1f.jpg>
>
> Here's a crop from the same sample shot:
> < http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>
>
> That's a 75-year-old lens on a 4-ish-year-old digital body. Very tempting. I
> know of 3 others of this type that are available at the moment, so I'm going
> to have a look at them during the week.

In 1969, ogling the stuff at Olden Camera in Manhattan for the
thousandth time, the salesman finally got tired of me visiting there
and not buying anything.

SM: "You gonna buy sometin or what?"
ME: "I don't have much money."
SM: "How much you got?"
ME: "A hundred dollars."

He pulled out of a drawer a Leica IIc and a Leica IIf, one fitted with
an Elmar 3.5cm and the other an Elmar 5.0cm. "You get 'em both for $99
and have a buck for a pretzel left over. Nobody wants this old junk
anymore."

I bought them. The Elmar 3.5cm was that lens. A great lens. Loved
those cameras. Used them until 1985, when the IIc was lost (the IIf
had been lost in 1978) but that's another story...

I see you're in the shopping courtyard across the way from the British
Museum in that photo. I bought my Rollei 35S Classic Platinum at the
Leica store there in 1996.
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Re: Potential gear bags

[Walter Gilbert]

  Inasmuch as I don't typically run into the Cali Cartel or other such 
ruffians while birding, or shooting the rural landscape of western 
Kentucky, I figure I could get away with carrying my equipment in a 
shopping cart, but for the jarring and lack of protection against the 
elements.  I figure these would suffice in that regard.


Walt


On 9/5/2010 12:37 PM, Bob W wrote:

I thought I'd pass along the link in case anyone might be interested, and

see

if anyone had any experience using anything along these lines to get pros
and cons.

For your perusal:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=280


instead of being attacked by muggers trying to steal cameras you'll be
attacked by drug lords trying to steal your weapons. Great idea!

Bob





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Re: OT PC thingies

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new
>> computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one,
>> and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats a current
>> computer term anymore.
>> Is it necessary to map everything over, or can i ask them to just map
>> over certain portions. Is it an all or nothing deal??
>>
>> Just want to go to him, or the store, armed with info so i don't look
>> like the dolt i am.
>
> Given the dates you are mentioning, your old drive may be an IDE interface -
> newer ones are SATA.  Not a problem; you just need to choose a motherboard
> that carries both interfaces.

Almost all motherboards still have 1 PATA interface intended for DVD-RW drives.

>
> Given that physically consructing a PC is about as complex as a fairly
> simple Meccano project, I would be tempted to save the money and build one
> myself, using the old case.  You should be able to do it for at least $100
> less than you have mentioned.  Takes some time to do the OS and driver
> install but should not take more than a week of spare time overall.  You
> learn quite a lot during the process, too.
>

I've priced this and you can almost always get a pre-built system
cheaper than a home-built system. It's been about a decade since
building your own was a good economic choice. The biggest reason to
build your own system is to get a specific parts selection, but you'll
pay at least 10% more that way. Used to build all my own stuff, now I
buy relatively barebones-spec HP's and upgrade RAM/HDD/Video and
sometimes CPU, saves me a fair bit over any other option.

-Adam

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Re: OT PC thingies

[mike wilson]

David J Brooks wrote:


Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new
computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one,
and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats a current
computer term anymore.
Is it necessary to map everything over, or can i ask them to just map
over certain portions. Is it an all or nothing deal??

Just want to go to him, or the store, armed with info so i don't look
like the dolt i am.


Given the dates you are mentioning, your old drive may be an IDE 
interface - newer ones are SATA.  Not a problem; you just need to choose 
a motherboard that carries both interfaces.


Given that physically consructing a PC is about as complex as a fairly 
simple Meccano project, I would be tempted to save the money and build 
one myself, using the old case.  You should be able to do it for at 
least $100 less than you have mentioned.  Takes some time to do the OS 
and driver install but should not take more than a week of spare time 
overall.  You learn quite a lot during the process, too.


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RE: Potential gear bags

[Bob W]

> 
> I thought I'd pass along the link in case anyone might be interested, and
see
> if anyone had any experience using anything along these lines to get pros
> and cons.
> 
> For your perusal:
> 
> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=280
> 

instead of being attacked by muggers trying to steal cameras you'll be
attacked by drug lords trying to steal your weapons. Great idea!

Bob


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Re: OT: Potential gear bags

[Steven Desjardins]

So your saying we should use a firearms bag as a camera bag based on
the advice of a guy using it as a diaper bag? ;-)

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>  Hi all,
>
> Yesterday, while having a lovely beverage at my favorite local dispensary, I
> saw a gentleman wearing what looked to me like an excellent camera bag --
> only he was using it for diapers, bottles, wipes, etc. for the baby he was
> carrying.  It was an over-the-shoulder type sling bag that hung across his
> torso and fell at about waist-level.  I asked him where he'd gotten it, and
> he told me he'd ordered it from cheaperthandirt.com -- a shooting sports
> equipment site.  So, I checked the site, and unfortunately, that particular
> bag wasn't listed there any longer.  Still, they did have several there at
> reasonable prices that appear to be potentially good candidates for
> photography use, and at very reasonable prices compared to some of the
> LowerPro gear I've seen.
>
> I thought I'd pass along the link in case anyone might be interested, and
> see if anyone had any experience using anything along these lines to get
> pros and cons.
>
> For your perusal:
>
> http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=280
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Walt
>
>
>
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Re: OT PC thingies

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:25 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new
> computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one,
> and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats a current
> computer term anymore.
> Is it necessary to map everything over, or can i ask them to just map
> over certain portions. Is it an all or nothing deal??
>
> Just want to go to him, or the store, armed with info so i don't look
> like the dolt i am.
>
> Dave
>

You can use the old drive as a slave, but any programs you want on the
new machine will need to be reinstalled, most software cannot simply
be copied over (One place where Mac's are clearly better than PC's).
If you don't have install media for them, you'll be out of luck.

-Adam

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Re: OT PC thingies

[mike wilson]

David J Brooks wrote:


On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:


Hold on a minute guys.  I gotta go and make popcorn.



Was not intending an OS war, but i guess this usually happens doesn't it.:-)

My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in a Dell
or HP, and what should i ask the computer builder for.??


NVIDIA GEForce 8600GT with 1Gig of ram.  Silent.

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Re: OT PC thingies

[Adam Maas]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:23 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Hold on a minute guys.  I gotta go and make popcorn.
>
> Was not intending an OS war, but i guess this usually happens doesn't it.:-)
>
> My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in a Dell
> or HP, and what should i ask the computer builder for.??
>
> Dave

Anything with an actual VRAM spec, which practically means an ATI
Radeon or a NVidia GeForce card. Buy cheap, you don't play games so
any videocard good enough to have its own RAM will do for you.

For Photo work you want RAM, CPU speed and big drives.

Don't put XP on the machine, get Win7 64 Home Premium. XP is at the
end of its life cycle and cannot handle the current standard of 4-6GB
of RAM properly (Anything over 4GB requires a 64 bit OS, which means
Win7 today). Sticking XP on a modern system is pretty much like
sticking a 100hp 4 cylinder in your 3/4 ton pickup.

>From Dell, I'd look at the XPS 8100 in its base configuration as a
good mid-range option. $800 gets you an i5 dual-core CPU, 6GB of RAM,
a 1TB drive, A Radeon 5450 and Win7 64. It's a good system which will
last quite a long time and is very upgradable.

You can go cheaper, but cheaper than that really means you will be
replacing the machine sooner. I wouldn't look at anything with less
than 4GB of RAM, a 640GB drive or an i5 CPU.

-Adam

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Re: OT: Mighty Elmar

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:


< http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>


"My Elmar's so small, you'll never believe where I keep it"




it only protrudes 14mm from the body.


but you should see the size of the hole in the middle.

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OT: Potential gear bags

[Walter Gilbert]

 Hi all,

Yesterday, while having a lovely beverage at my favorite local 
dispensary, I saw a gentleman wearing what looked to me like an 
excellent camera bag -- only he was using it for diapers, bottles, 
wipes, etc. for the baby he was carrying.  It was an over-the-shoulder 
type sling bag that hung across his torso and fell at about 
waist-level.  I asked him where he'd gotten it, and he told me he'd 
ordered it from cheaperthandirt.com -- a shooting sports equipment 
site.  So, I checked the site, and unfortunately, that particular bag 
wasn't listed there any longer.  Still, they did have several there at 
reasonable prices that appear to be potentially good candidates for 
photography use, and at very reasonable prices compared to some of the 
LowerPro gear I've seen.


I thought I'd pass along the link in case anyone might be interested, 
and see if anyone had any experience using anything along these lines to 
get pros and cons.


For your perusal:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=280



Best,

Walt




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Re: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Steven Desjardins]

ROTFL.  Well, there is another thread about a what a slow DA 35 would
have to be like to make it worthwhile.  Is this an example of the
species?

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:02 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> Bob W wrote:
>
>> < http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>
>
> "My Elmar's so small, you'll never believe where I keep it"
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Re: OT PC thingies

[David J Brooks]

Also have programs on the HD that i will not be able to put on a new
computer, so i intend to have the pld HD mapped over to the new one,
and possibly use the older one as a slave drive, if thats a current
computer term anymore.
Is it necessary to map everything over, or can i ask them to just map
over certain portions. Is it an all or nothing deal??

Just want to go to him, or the store, armed with info so i don't look
like the dolt i am.

Dave

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:23 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Hold on a minute guys.  I gotta go and make popcorn.
>
> Was not intending an OS war, but i guess this usually happens doesn't it.:-)
>
> My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in a Dell
> or HP, and what should i ask the computer builder for.??
>
> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, eckinator  wrote:
 2010/9/5 David J Brooks :
>
> Yes i do.

 Great =) Way to go, eh!

> Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt
> saying boot failure.

 Does this happen more often when the PC hasn't been on for a few days?
 I highly doubt this would be the cause but would you know how old the
 BIOS/CMOS buffer battery is?
>>>
>>> Sometimes yes, sometimes no, its all over the place. Battery is original.

> I upgraded the HD in 2006, i think, and it was about a year later i
> started getting these boot failure prompts. Usually a few retries and
> i was in.

 Sounds like something closer to the mainboard again. Has there ever
 been a BIOS update? This is what I would go for next.

> I had it looked at last Oct, and the computer guy
> one mane show [sic]

 Lion King Enterprises by any chance? Sorry I just had to =)

> found nothing wrong, out of the ordinary, and suggested several
> things. However due to the age of the PC we both agreed it was a waste
> of money and if it happened again and new PC would be cheaper in the
> long run, It has been working fine until Saturday and now i can only
> get intro windows with the F8 key.

 Have you tried F8 and then "halt on error" or whatever the setting is
 called in English? This should give us a more detailed message? Please
 can you do so?
>>>
>>> When i press F8 i get a Dos screen asking how i want to boot, Disk, HD
>>> or something else, i don't remember what at the moment. I hit HD and
>>> XP loads and runs, so far.
>>>
>>> Dave

 Cheers
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Re: OT PC thingies

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Hold on a minute guys.  I gotta go and make popcorn.

Was not intending an OS war, but i guess this usually happens doesn't it.:-)

My other concern is the video card. What should i look for in a Dell
or HP, and what should i ask the computer builder for.??

Dave
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, eckinator  wrote:
>>> 2010/9/5 David J Brooks :

 Yes i do.
>>>
>>> Great =) Way to go, eh!
>>>
 Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt
 saying boot failure.
>>>
>>> Does this happen more often when the PC hasn't been on for a few days?
>>> I highly doubt this would be the cause but would you know how old the
>>> BIOS/CMOS buffer battery is?
>>
>> Sometimes yes, sometimes no, its all over the place. Battery is original.
>>>
 I upgraded the HD in 2006, i think, and it was about a year later i
 started getting these boot failure prompts. Usually a few retries and
 i was in.
>>>
>>> Sounds like something closer to the mainboard again. Has there ever
>>> been a BIOS update? This is what I would go for next.
>>>
 I had it looked at last Oct, and the computer guy
 one mane show [sic]
>>>
>>> Lion King Enterprises by any chance? Sorry I just had to =)
>>>
 found nothing wrong, out of the ordinary, and suggested several
 things. However due to the age of the PC we both agreed it was a waste
 of money and if it happened again and new PC would be cheaper in the
 long run, It has been working fine until Saturday and now i can only
 get intro windows with the F8 key.
>>>
>>> Have you tried F8 and then "halt on error" or whatever the setting is
>>> called in English? This should give us a more detailed message? Please
>>> can you do so?
>>
>> When i press F8 i get a Dos screen asking how i want to boot, Disk, HD
>> or something else, i don't remember what at the moment. I hit HD and
>> XP loads and runs, so far.
>>
>> Dave
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Ecke
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Re: Interesting Rumour

[Steven Desjardins]

I was thinking dark matter but this works too.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Dario Bonazza  wrote:
> Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> Your camera actually gets shorter when you put this lens on ;-p
>
> Yes, as it's a mirror lens. Then the lens mirror mirrors the mirror box and
> you get lost among endless mirroring. At that point, you no longer notice
> any camera length. That's the Pentax response to mirrorless cameras. ;-p
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Re: OT PC thingies

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/9/5 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
>>
>> Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO.
>
> Depends. Buy a new box, get Windows 7, update all now incompatible
> software, possibly (and sensibly so) choose 64 bit and be forced to
> update even more... costly collaterals... one has to have the money
> (and workflow need) for that. I don't think it is all that blindingly
> obvious. No offense intended btw =)

This company has XP and i also have  my XP disk from when i bought
this one. I plan on using anyone who can put XP on the new machine.
One reason i am hesitant on the iMac over a new PC is, the calibration
for photo work. I am comfortable using the PC and get great results
with may antiquated set up as is.
I'm just not sure about the Mac settings on my iBook for prints, they
are off, and would be/will be, worried about the calibration on the
iMac.
Main thing is the price, PC 1/2 that of a Mac, and now that i don't do
a lot of shows and prints, may not need the Mac.

Dave
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Re: OT PC thingies

[Steven Desjardins]

Hold on a minute guys.  I gotta go and make popcorn.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:14 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, eckinator  wrote:
>> 2010/9/5 David J Brooks :
>>>
>>> Yes i do.
>>
>> Great =) Way to go, eh!
>>
>>> Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt
>>> saying boot failure.
>>
>> Does this happen more often when the PC hasn't been on for a few days?
>> I highly doubt this would be the cause but would you know how old the
>> BIOS/CMOS buffer battery is?
>
> Sometimes yes, sometimes no, its all over the place. Battery is original.
>>
>>> I upgraded the HD in 2006, i think, and it was about a year later i
>>> started getting these boot failure prompts. Usually a few retries and
>>> i was in.
>>
>> Sounds like something closer to the mainboard again. Has there ever
>> been a BIOS update? This is what I would go for next.
>>
>>> I had it looked at last Oct, and the computer guy
>>> one mane show [sic]
>>
>> Lion King Enterprises by any chance? Sorry I just had to =)
>>
>>> found nothing wrong, out of the ordinary, and suggested several
>>> things. However due to the age of the PC we both agreed it was a waste
>>> of money and if it happened again and new PC would be cheaper in the
>>> long run, It has been working fine until Saturday and now i can only
>>> get intro windows with the F8 key.
>>
>> Have you tried F8 and then "halt on error" or whatever the setting is
>> called in English? This should give us a more detailed message? Please
>> can you do so?
>
> When i press F8 i get a Dos screen asking how i want to boot, Disk, HD
> or something else, i don't remember what at the moment. I hit HD and
> XP loads and runs, so far.
>
> Dave
>>
>> Cheers
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Re: OT PC thingies

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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/9/5 David J Brooks :
>>
>> Yes i do.
>
> Great =) Way to go, eh!
>
>> Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt
>> saying boot failure.
>
> Does this happen more often when the PC hasn't been on for a few days?
> I highly doubt this would be the cause but would you know how old the
> BIOS/CMOS buffer battery is?

Sometimes yes, sometimes no, its all over the place. Battery is original.
>
>> I upgraded the HD in 2006, i think, and it was about a year later i
>> started getting these boot failure prompts. Usually a few retries and
>> i was in.
>
> Sounds like something closer to the mainboard again. Has there ever
> been a BIOS update? This is what I would go for next.
>
>> I had it looked at last Oct, and the computer guy
>> one mane show [sic]
>
> Lion King Enterprises by any chance? Sorry I just had to =)
>
>> found nothing wrong, out of the ordinary, and suggested several
>> things. However due to the age of the PC we both agreed it was a waste
>> of money and if it happened again and new PC would be cheaper in the
>> long run, It has been working fine until Saturday and now i can only
>> get intro windows with the F8 key.
>
> Have you tried F8 and then "halt on error" or whatever the setting is
> called in English? This should give us a more detailed message? Please
> can you do so?

When i press F8 i get a Dos screen asking how i want to boot, Disk, HD
or something else, i don't remember what at the moment. I hit HD and
XP loads and runs, so far.

Dave
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RE: OT: Mighty Elmar

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> > < http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>
> 
> "My Elmar's so small, you'll never believe where I keep it"
> 

it only protrudes 14mm from the body.




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Re: Interesting Rumour

[Dario Bonazza]

Steven Desjardins wrote:


Your camera actually gets shorter when you put this lens on ;-p


Yes, as it's a mirror lens. Then the lens mirror mirrors the mirror box and 
you get lost among endless mirroring. At that point, you no longer notice 
any camera length. That's the Pentax response to mirrorless cameras. ;-p


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Re: OT PC thingies

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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> On 5/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>> >ow that Macs are Unix boxes running on Intel hardware there isn't
>> >enough to distinguish them from PCs to make them worth spending the
>> >extra money on in my opinion,
>>
>> I agree. Except for one small thingthe OS.
>>
>> ;-) Asbestos suit on - nya nya nya nay nyaa.
>>
>
> the OS is Unix. Do you mean the window manager?

That's something of a Myth. OS X is not actually Unix. It's a Mach
Microkernel running a BSD userspace alongside a separate but
integrated Carbon/Cocoa GUI userspace. It gives most of the advantages
of Unix along with nearly full BSD compatibility while actually
running a modern, well designed GUI environment completely unrelated
to the disaster that is X. You could actually rip out the BSD portion
and have an almost fully functional OS left which wasn't in any way
Unix related (there is some cross-reliance between the Carbon/Cocoa
userspace and the BSD userspace for services, especially printing or
networking which come from the BSD side and configuration management
which is Cocoa)

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Re: Pesos: Hoppers

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The third is my favorite as well.

Nice day for a photowalk.  A little late light-wise, but lots of bugs
on wildflowers.  Which, of course, says much about my tastes.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Steve,
> Like the third one the best for it's unusual point of view.
> The other two are nice as well.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Since I'm way out of practice, I've decided I just have to do a bunch
>> of shooting and look for criticism:
>>
>> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper2.jpg
>> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper1.jpg
>> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper3.jpg
>>
>> K7 and FA 50 1.4.  These are all cropped to about 70% of the original
>> so I could move things around.
>>
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RE: Pesos: Hoppers

[Bob W]

> Since I'm way out of practice, I've decided I just have to do a bunch of
> shooting and look for criticism:
> 
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&;
> current=hopper2.jpg
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&;
> current=hopper1.jpg
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&;
> current=hopper3.jpg
> 
> K7 and FA 50 1.4.  These are all cropped to about 70% of the original so I
could
> move things around.

That's not a hopper. THIS is a hopper!
< http://tinyurl.com/327sb3w>

and one for the Brits:
< http://www.owensworld.com/funnyimages/files/apocalypse_now_then_big.jpg>

Having said that, I do like the shots. I would like to see them a lot closer
though so they completely fill the frame with the creature on top of
whatever that plant is - it would look really alien, at least to me.

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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[mike wilson]

Chris Mitchell wrote:


David Mann wrote:


Sent: 05 September 2010 11:02
I heard from my boss, he went into the city to check out the office
building.  Had to talk his way past the cops, then once he got to the
building he went through the "keep out" tape (naughty!) and started
collecting computers and important documents.  Nearly got himself
arrested (IMO he should have been).  He says the office is pretty well
screwed, lots of water damage from the sprinkler system.  He's dropping
my work PC off at my house tomorrow so I can get some work done while
he sorts out some temporary premises.  I hope it doesn't take long as
I'll go crazy working alone.

I won't be able to go into the CBD tomorrow as I was planning to
anyway, as it will still be cordoned off.  I think the engineers are
still busy evaluating all the buildings.  So I don't know when I'll get
to see my commuter bike again, it's still at work where I left it on
Friday :(



You mean your boss didn't pick it up when he went in for all those so called
"important" items?


I can see the "Arrested for looting" headline now.

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Re: OT: Mighty Elmar

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:


< http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>


"My Elmar's so small, you'll never believe where I keep it"

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Re: Pesos: Hoppers

[Bob Sullivan]

Steve,
Like the third one the best for it's unusual point of view.
The other two are nice as well.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Since I'm way out of practice, I've decided I just have to do a bunch
> of shooting and look for criticism:
>
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper2.jpg
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper1.jpg
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper3.jpg
>
> K7 and FA 50 1.4.  These are all cropped to about 70% of the original
> so I could move things around.
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RE: OT PC thingies

[Bob W]

> On 5/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >ow that Macs are Unix boxes running on Intel hardware there isn't
> >enough to distinguish them from PCs to make them worth spending the
> >extra money on in my opinion,
> 
> I agree. Except for one small thingthe OS.
> 
> ;-) Asbestos suit on - nya nya nya nay nyaa.
> 

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Re: Interesting Rumour

[Steven Desjardins]

Your camera actually gets shorter when you put this lens on ;-p

One regret I have is never buying the FA 35 2.0.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
> Yep, as a pancake, why not.
> As a fast normal, no way, even DA-L.
>
> Simplest thing would be an FA35 repackaged as DA-L.
> Easy enough IMO.
>
> 2010/9/5 Miserere :
>> F/2.4??? That better be false.
>>
>> And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.
>>
>>  --M.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 05/09/2010, Adam Maas  wrote:
>>> Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
>>> K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
>>> will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
>>> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
>>> quite small.
>>>
>>> -Adam
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Re: OT PC thingies

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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Adam Maas  wrote:
>> You can get a better spec on a new Windows machine for the same or
>> even less money than a Mac Refurb. If you don't need OS X, skip the
>> Macbooks and iMac's. The only Mac's which are competitive in terms of
>> bang/buck at the moment are the Mac Pro's and the top-end MacBook
>> Pro's, the consumer line is currently seriously overpriced, enough
>> that even the Refurbs are questionable as deals (Refurb MacBook Pro's
>> with similar specs to my current HP HDX16 are priced at the same price
>> as what I payed for the HP new last year, for what a Core 2 Mini with
>> 4GB and a 500GB drive costs I can get a Dell with an i5, 6GB RAM and a
>> 1TB drive). Apple's currently at the high point in its pricing cycle
>> vs comparable PC hardware.
>
> "Better spec" maybe ... but most of those "better spec" jobs that are
> cheap are made of cheap components and don't last as well.

I'm talking Dell, HP, Toshiba and Lenovo here. Similar quality
components, sometimes better (HP for example uses Asus MB's on their
desktops, better quality boards than the Mac desktop boards aside from
the Mac Pro's). The components used in the non-Pro Mac's are nothing
special and some parts (desktop PSU's in particular) are inferior to
the standardized designs used in the PC world.

>
> And you can't run Mac OS X on them. For me, the ONLY purpose to having
> Windows is for consulting purposes. For my own use, Windows is
> irrelevant.

Yep, and for you, Macs are thus the best choice. I'm in pretty much
the opposite situation, only reason to run OS X is for fooling around
with, for day to day use Windows and Linux cover my needs, mostly
Windows as much of the software I need is Windows-only or Windows and
Linux only.

>
> A box that can run Mac OS X, Windows and Linux is far more useful than
> any box that can only run one or two of them.
> --
> Godfrey

That applies only for specialist uses. The vast majority of people,
including the majority of people on the list, don't need to run more
than one OS. Note Macs are poor hosts for OS's other than OS X or
Windows as well, if you want to run multiple OS's a PC is a FAR better
choice unless OS X is one of them. Both you and I are definitely out
of the mainstream here.

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Granddad doesn't seem to mind though:



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Pesos: Hoppers

[Steven Desjardins]

Since I'm way out of practice, I've decided I just have to do a bunch
of shooting and look for criticism:

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper2.jpg
http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper1.jpg
http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=hopper3.jpg

K7 and FA 50 1.4.  These are all cropped to about 70% of the original
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Re: OT PC thingies

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

No 2001 generation computer is worth the cost of updating all the
hardware to make it useful for Windows 7 and 64bit operation. That's
logic board, graphics adapter, power supply, RAM, etc etc etc. Buy a
new computer.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/9/5 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
>>
>> Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO.
>
> Depends. Buy a new box, get Windows 7, update all now incompatible
> software, possibly (and sensibly so) choose 64 bit and be forced to
> update even more... costly collaterals... one has to have the money
> (and workflow need) for that. I don't think it is all that blindingly
> obvious. No offense intended btw =)
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Re: OT PC thingies

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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Adam Maas  wrote:
> You can get a better spec on a new Windows machine for the same or
> even less money than a Mac Refurb. If you don't need OS X, skip the
> Macbooks and iMac's. The only Mac's which are competitive in terms of
> bang/buck at the moment are the Mac Pro's and the top-end MacBook
> Pro's, the consumer line is currently seriously overpriced, enough
> that even the Refurbs are questionable as deals (Refurb MacBook Pro's
> with similar specs to my current HP HDX16 are priced at the same price
> as what I payed for the HP new last year, for what a Core 2 Mini with
> 4GB and a 500GB drive costs I can get a Dell with an i5, 6GB RAM and a
> 1TB drive). Apple's currently at the high point in its pricing cycle
> vs comparable PC hardware.

"Better spec" maybe ... but most of those "better spec" jobs that are
cheap are made of cheap components and don't last as well.

And you can't run Mac OS X on them. For me, the ONLY purpose to having
Windows is for consulting purposes. For my own use, Windows is
irrelevant.

A box that can run Mac OS X, Windows and Linux is far more useful than
any box that can only run one or two of them.
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Re: OT PC thingies

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2010/9/5 Cotty :
>
> I agree. Except for one small thingthe OS.
>
> ;-) Asbestos suit on - nya nya nya nay nyaa.

I never cease to be amazed by how many people by a Mac and pay for
MacOS just to go on and use Windows on a pretty box...

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Re: OT PC thingies

[Cotty]

On 5/9/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>ow that Macs are Unix boxes running on Intel hardware there isn't enough to
>distinguish them from PCs to make them worth spending the extra money on in
>my opinion,

I agree. Except for one small thingthe OS.

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Re: OT PC thingies

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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/9/5 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
>>
>> Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO.
>
> Depends. Buy a new box, get Windows 7, update all now incompatible
> software, possibly (and sensibly so) choose 64 bit and be forced to
> update even more... costly collaterals... one has to have the money
> (and workflow need) for that. I don't think it is all that blindingly
> obvious. No offense intended btw =)
>

Peripherals are the only real worry with Win7, XP software will run
under 7 in XP compatibility mode, even on 64 bit. A 2001-era computer
isn't worth the cost of labour in repairing it. You can buy a 5-6 year
old XP machine for $100-150 these days.

Much better to replace with a system that actually has a lifespan ahead of it.

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Re: Interesting Rumour

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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> F/2.4??? That better be false.
>
> And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.
>
>  --M.
>
>

I expect it to be significantly smaller than the Sony or Nikon
35/1.8's (both of which are larger than the FA 50/1.4)

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Re: OT PC thingies

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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> if I needed Windows, Id get a refurb, last series iMac or MacBook Pro.
> Max out the RAM, put a big HD in it, install Windows. Right there you
> can boot either Win or Mac at your discretion. Install Parallels and
> you can run both at the same time. Best of both worlds.

You can get a better spec on a new Windows machine for the same or
even less money than a Mac Refurb. If you don't need OS X, skip the
Macbooks and iMac's. The only Mac's which are competitive in terms of
bang/buck at the moment are the Mac Pro's and the top-end MacBook
Pro's, the consumer line is currently seriously overpriced, enough
that even the Refurbs are questionable as deals (Refurb MacBook Pro's
with similar specs to my current HP HDX16 are priced at the same price
as what I payed for the HP new last year, for what a Core 2 Mini with
4GB and a 500GB drive costs I can get a Dell with an i5, 6GB RAM and a
1TB drive). Apple's currently at the high point in its pricing cycle
vs comparable PC hardware.

>
> Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO.
>

Agreed, strongly. Even a sub-$500 new Desktop will run rings around
anything from 2001.

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Re: OT PC thingies

[eckinator]

2010/9/5 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
>
> Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO.

Depends. Buy a new box, get Windows 7, update all now incompatible
software, possibly (and sensibly so) choose 64 bit and be forced to
update even more... costly collaterals... one has to have the money
(and workflow need) for that. I don't think it is all that blindingly
obvious. No offense intended btw =)

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Focus adjustment tool

[Paul Sorenson]

 This showed up in my inbox Saturday...

http://spyder.datacolor.com/newsletter/2010-09-01-EN/

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Re: Interesting Rumour

[Thibouille]

Yep, as a pancake, why not.
As a fast normal, no way, even DA-L.

Simplest thing would be an FA35 repackaged as DA-L.
Easy enough IMO.

2010/9/5 Miserere :
> F/2.4??? That better be false.
>
> And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.
>
>  --M.
>
>
>
> On 05/09/2010, Adam Maas  wrote:
>> Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
>> K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
>> will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
>> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
>> quite small.
>>
>> -Adam
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Re: Interesting Rumour

[Miserere]

F/2.4??? That better be false.

And if it's true, the lens has to be no thicker than a rear lens cap.

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> Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
> K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
> will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
> quite small.
>
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Re: OT PC thingies

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

if I needed Windows, Id get a refurb, last series iMac or MacBook Pro.
Max out the RAM, put a big HD in it, install Windows. Right there you
can boot either Win or Mac at your discretion. Install Parallels and
you can run both at the same time. Best of both worlds.

Do not put money into a 2001 computer. That's a waste of money IMO.



On Sunday, September 5, 2010, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to
> be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key.
>
> Couple of things.
>
> - I am trying to restore my system to a previous good date. I am now
> into to hour two waiting for it to do so, how long should this take.
>
> - I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I may
> just go with another PC, something along the lines of a mid range HP
> or get one built, by a computer company that was highly recommended to
> me for around $6-700. Looking at the iMac but at $1300 plus taxes, is
> a little steep right now, although i really like to get one.;-)
>
> - It will be used primarily for photos, conversions and prints.
> Suggestions for a Video card would be helpful. The computer guy has a
> number of cards for various applications and i would like to get this
> right if i do this. My CRT monitor, a Samsung Sync Master 753df is
> still working well so i don't need a monitor.
> I still have my XP home disk and he has XP as well as Windows 7, but
> everything i have is set up for XP so i probably will just use XP
> again.
>
> - Would the iMac have windows capabilities should i go that route. I
> would only want it for BBpro and a small amount of Office. I have the
> Spyder I i bought from Mark a while back. It works well on my PC,
> would it be ok on an iMac with ther LCD screen for calibration. This
> is my main concern, calibrating the monitor/video card for photos and
> prints.
>
> All advice listened to. The SO is cool with the 6-700 area, having a
> hard sell on the 1300 area.:-)
>
> Dave
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Re: Interesting Rumour

[drd1135]

One reason I got rid of my DA 40 was it was just an awkward foc length that 
wasn't good for much. I wonder how cheap Pentax could make a decent small 35 mm 
prime?
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Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
quite small.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 141 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks. I wish there'd been occasion to set up a shoot of it. It was
slightly lowered, had nice wheels on it, and had a deep sort of
industrial feel.

On Sunday, September 5, 2010, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Has a lonely feel to it.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> working on a blog post but this photo didn't fit ... and I like it too
>> much to not post it around. figured the folks on here would enjoy it.
>>
>> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/4957812427_56057152fe_o.jpg
>> Panasonic G1 + Lumix G 20mm f/1.7
>> ISO 100 @ f/4.5 @ 1/250 second
>>
>> .. Went to the meetup point for the usual Saturday morning walk with
>> my friends and this late 1960s Falcon Pickup just somehow resonated
>> with my eyes, framed just like this in b&w. I immediately pulled out
>> the camera and took a photo. Two minutes later, the owner walked up
>> and it was gone. Glad I had the camera ready ... :-)
>>
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OT new service Google Home View (German w/French subtitles)

[eckinator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFBuHsKXb0&feature=youtu.be

Enjoy
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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[David Savage]

I'm not convinced this was a geological event.

I reckon there was a sheep stampede at a love in...

DS

(Good to here our kiwis are ok)


On 5 September 2010 22:28, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dave,
> When you get into the CBD, take some pictures of the central 'square'.
> We still have fond memories of meeting you there.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:01 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>> On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Bob W wrote:
>>
 we are fine - Palmerston North is a long way from Christchurch.
 Masha felt the quake mildly - I slept through

>>>
>>> excellent, good to hear
>>
>> Good indeed.  If you [Alistair] have any friends or relatives down here I 
>> hope they're OK.
>>
>> I heard from my boss, he went into the city to check out the office 
>> building.  Had to talk his way past the cops, then once he got to the 
>> building he went through the "keep out" tape (naughty!) and started 
>> collecting computers and important documents.  Nearly got himself arrested 
>> (IMO he should have been).  He says the office is pretty well screwed, lots 
>> of water damage from the sprinkler system.  He's dropping my work PC off at 
>> my house tomorrow so I can get some work done while he sorts out some 
>> temporary premises.  I hope it doesn't take long as I'll go crazy working 
>> alone.
>>
>> I won't be able to go into the CBD tomorrow as I was planning to anyway, as 
>> it will still be cordoned off.  I think the engineers are still busy 
>> evaluating all the buildings.  So I don't know when I'll get to see my 
>> commuter bike again, it's still at work where I left it on Friday :(
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
When you get into the CBD, take some pictures of the central 'square'.
We still have fond memories of meeting you there.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 5:01 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Bob W wrote:
>
>>> we are fine - Palmerston North is a long way from Christchurch.
>>> Masha felt the quake mildly - I slept through
>>>
>>
>> excellent, good to hear
>
> Good indeed.  If you [Alistair] have any friends or relatives down here I 
> hope they're OK.
>
> I heard from my boss, he went into the city to check out the office building. 
>  Had to talk his way past the cops, then once he got to the building he went 
> through the "keep out" tape (naughty!) and started collecting computers and 
> important documents.  Nearly got himself arrested (IMO he should have been).  
> He says the office is pretty well screwed, lots of water damage from the 
> sprinkler system.  He's dropping my work PC off at my house tomorrow so I can 
> get some work done while he sorts out some temporary premises.  I hope it 
> doesn't take long as I'll go crazy working alone.
>
> I won't be able to go into the CBD tomorrow as I was planning to anyway, as 
> it will still be cordoned off.  I think the engineers are still busy 
> evaluating all the buildings.  So I don't know when I'll get to see my 
> commuter bike again, it's still at work where I left it on Friday :(
>
> Cheers,
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Re: OT PC thingies

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2010/9/5 David J Brooks :
>
> Yes i do.

Great =) Way to go, eh!

> Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt
> saying boot failure.

Does this happen more often when the PC hasn't been on for a few days?
I highly doubt this would be the cause but would you know how old the
BIOS/CMOS buffer battery is?

> I upgraded the HD in 2006, i think, and it was about a year later i
> started getting these boot failure prompts. Usually a few retries and
> i was in.

Sounds like something closer to the mainboard again. Has there ever
been a BIOS update? This is what I would go for next.

> I had it looked at last Oct, and the computer guy
> one mane show [sic]

Lion King Enterprises by any chance? Sorry I just had to =)

> found nothing wrong, out of the ordinary, and suggested several
> things. However due to the age of the PC we both agreed it was a waste
> of money and if it happened again and new PC would be cheaper in the
> long run, It has been working fine until Saturday and now i can only
> get intro windows with the F8 key.

Have you tried F8 and then "halt on error" or whatever the setting is
called in English? This should give us a more detailed message? Please
can you do so?

Cheers
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On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> Hi Dave
> (comments interspersed)
>
>> Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to
>> be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key.
>
> First things first, do you have a backup of all data on the system?

Yes i do.

>
> Also, have you tried logging in as a different user? Same problem?

Can't. I turn it on and get the Intel splash screen then a Dos promt
saying boot failure.
I upgraded the HD in 2006, i think, and it was about a year later i
started getting these boot failure prompts. Usually a few retries and
i was in. I had it looked at last Oct, and the computer guyone mane
show) found nothing wrong, out of the ordinary, and suggested several
things. However due to the age of the PC we both agreed it was a waste
of money and if it happened again and new PC would be cheaper in the
long run, It has been working fine until Saturday and now i can only
get intro windows with the F8 key.

Dave
>
>> - I am trying to restore my system to a previous good date. I am now
>> into to hour two waiting for it to do so, how long should this take.
>
> If you mean F8 and boot to last known good it should be a matter of
> seconds. Last known good only means loading a different, older
> registry portion for certain settings. These are overwritten upon
> logon completion so usually they are pretty worthless after a half
> complete login failed on the profile level.
>
> If you mean XP system restore two hours aren't normal either.
>
> Basically you can let it run for a while yet without harm assuming it
> isn't a thermal issue. Can you take off a side cover and check air and
> hard disk temperatures? The HD is OK to be hot to the touch but you
> should be able to leave your hand on there as long as you like. Also,
> while you're in there, listen for very regular ticking/scratching
> noises from the hard disk. If it is a persistent pattern, it usually
> means your disk is mechanically defective and cannot reach a certain
> sector.
>
> It could of course just be Windows XP that is dodgy. (I take the
> liberty to assume you're no longer running 2000 if you speak of a
> system restore). Have you tried a repair install/in-place upgrade? The
> XP setup disk needs to be the same service pack level as your current
> install. If yours isn't, you can use a different computer and nLite
> (great tool) to create one. The process is called slipstreaming and
> officially supported by Micro$oft.
>
> I won't comment on your buying advice request as I am all about server
> hardware, I haven't owned a computer since 2004, all I ever have is
> work laptops.
>
> HTH Ecke
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RE: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Bob W]

> > Care to post a photo of the lens mounted on the body?  It must look
> > quite interesting.
> 
> it does indeed, but I didn't take a photo of it. If I buy one I will do
so.
> 

incidentally, here's why I'm thinking along these lines rather than buying a
Lumix GF-1:
<
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2009/09/the
-worlds-most-compact-fullframe-digital-system-camera.html>

< http://tinyurl.com/mbehgn>



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RE: OT PC thingies

[Bob W]

[...]
> 
> - I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I may just
go
> with another PC, something along the lines of a mid range HP or get one
> built, by a computer company that was highly recommended to me for
> around $6-700. Looking at the iMac but at $1300 plus taxes, is a little
steep
> right now, although i really like to get one.;-)
> 
> - It will be used primarily for photos, conversions and prints.
[...]

When my iLust threatened to burst out of my trousers I cured it with Dell. 

I bought a Dell Vostro 3700 which has identical hardware specs to the top
MacBook Pro of the time, except for the resolution, which is somewhat better
on the Mac. The Dell is also not carved out of a single block of aluminium,
a feature that never really climbed very high on my list of priorities I
must say. On the other hand, the Dell was less than half the price of the
Mac.

Now that Macs are Unix boxes running on Intel hardware there isn't enough to
distinguish them from PCs to make them worth spending the extra money on in
my opinion, unless one is very, very concerned about the way the things
look. The Macs, especially the iMacs, are very beautiful and much better
looking than any PC I'm aware of. 

But ask any of my girlfriends - looks don't matter much, it's performance
that counts*.

Bob

*I should put that on a t-shirt and sell it to ugly people.



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Re: OT PC thingies

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Hi Dave
(comments interspersed)

> Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to
> be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key.

First things first, do you have a backup of all data on the system?

Also, have you tried logging in as a different user? Same problem?

> - I am trying to restore my system to a previous good date. I am now
> into to hour two waiting for it to do so, how long should this take.

If you mean F8 and boot to last known good it should be a matter of
seconds. Last known good only means loading a different, older
registry portion for certain settings. These are overwritten upon
logon completion so usually they are pretty worthless after a half
complete login failed on the profile level.

If you mean XP system restore two hours aren't normal either.

Basically you can let it run for a while yet without harm assuming it
isn't a thermal issue. Can you take off a side cover and check air and
hard disk temperatures? The HD is OK to be hot to the touch but you
should be able to leave your hand on there as long as you like. Also,
while you're in there, listen for very regular ticking/scratching
noises from the hard disk. If it is a persistent pattern, it usually
means your disk is mechanically defective and cannot reach a certain
sector.

It could of course just be Windows XP that is dodgy. (I take the
liberty to assume you're no longer running 2000 if you speak of a
system restore). Have you tried a repair install/in-place upgrade? The
XP setup disk needs to be the same service pack level as your current
install. If yours isn't, you can use a different computer and nLite
(great tool) to create one. The process is called slipstreaming and
officially supported by Micro$oft.

I won't comment on your buying advice request as I am all about server
hardware, I haven't owned a computer since 2004, all I ever have is
work laptops.

HTH Ecke

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OT PC thingies

[David J Brooks]

Well my 2001 PC is acting up again. Not allowing me to boot. I seem to
be able to get into it via the safemode, F8 key.

Couple of things.

- I am trying to restore my system to a previous good date. I am now
into to hour two waiting for it to do so, how long should this take.

- I may have to buy a new computer. As much as i like my iBook, I may
just go with another PC, something along the lines of a mid range HP
or get one built, by a computer company that was highly recommended to
me for around $6-700. Looking at the iMac but at $1300 plus taxes, is
a little steep right now, although i really like to get one.;-)

- It will be used primarily for photos, conversions and prints.
Suggestions for a Video card would be helpful. The computer guy has a
number of cards for various applications and i would like to get this
right if i do this. My CRT monitor, a Samsung Sync Master 753df is
still working well so i don't need a monitor.
I still have my XP home disk and he has XP as well as Windows 7, but
everything i have is set up for XP so i probably will just use XP
again.

- Would the iMac have windows capabilities should i go that route. I
would only want it for BBpro and a small amount of Office. I have the
Spyder I i bought from Mark a while back. It works well on my PC,
would it be ok on an iMac with ther LCD screen for calibration. This
is my main concern, calibrating the monitor/video card for photos and
prints.

All advice listened to. The SO is cool with the 6-700 area, having a
hard sell on the 1300 area.:-)

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Re: Interesting Rumour

[Thibouille]

2010/9/5 Adam Maas :
> Given the slow speed when the
> equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
> quite small.
>

It'd better. There's been talks of 30/2.1 as well.

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Interesting Rumour

[Adam Maas]

Apparently Pentax will be announcing 2 new lenses with the K-r and
K-5. A cheap 35/2.4 normal and a 18-125 consumer superzoom. The 35/2.4
will be plastic-mount and sub-$200 USD. Given the slow speed when the
equivalents from Nikon and Sony are f1.8, I'm also expecting it to be
quite small.

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RE: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Bob W]

> > This is the one I tried - it was made in 1935 according to the serial
> > number:
> > <  http://www.theclassiccamera.com/product_details_2560.htm>
> >
> > Here's one of the sample pictures I took. This is the whole frame:
> > <  http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1f.jpg>
> >
> > Here's a crop from the same sample shot:
> > <  http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>
> >
> > That's a 75-year-old lens on a 4-ish-year-old digital body. Very
> > tempting. I know of 3 others of this type that are available at the
> > moment, so I'm going to have a look at them during the week.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> Hi Bob
> 
> Acquired Paul Wolff's Leica book a few months back. Seems the Elmar was
> one of his favourite lenses. Incorrigible Nazi, but the book has some
superb
> street work.

Oh, well that's alright then. As long as he's a Leica fan... :o)

> 
> Not a 35, but have you thought about a Voigtlander 28/3.5? Just as teeny.
> Discontinued, but you are more likely to get a 2nd hand one in good
> condition than the Elmars.
> 
> http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtlen.htm#28/3.5
> 

Thanks - I wasn't particularly aware of it; that 35/2.5 PII looks nice too.
I do have a Voigtlander 28/2 Ultron in M mount for the Leica - the one just
below the 28/3.5 on that page. Great lens. I would certainly consider the
slower one for its tiny dimensions, but it doesn't look much smaller than
the original Leica 35/1.4 which I have, and which is comparatively large
when seen against the Elmar. 

A 35mm lens on the M8 gives the fov of a 50mm on an M3 etc., and it's that
that I would like to retain, at least for now.

The big disadvantage of the Elmar on the M8 is that you can't get an IR cut
filter for it, so it's pretty much useless indoors. However, my reason for
thinking about it is to use it outdoors at lunchtime, so that doesn't much
bother me.

The Elmar on the M8 is also very peculiar-looking and I don't think anyone
other than an aficionado would take it seriously as a camera if they saw me
pointing it at them. An aficionado, of course, would be pleased. 

I've also just noticed the new Heliar 75/1.8 in M mount. I wish I hadn't.

Bob


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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[eckinator]

Sounds like you'll be talking to CRIS soon =(
Hope it is still in warranty
Ecke

2010/9/5 Joseph McAllister :
>
> I went out today with my K-7 with the DA*16-55 (been using it for the pasts
> couple of days) and half the time when I pressed the shutter button or the
> AF button, the thing would just sit there, out of focus. Gonna run it
> through some tests tomorrow after I clean the contacts and use center focus
> instead of the whole sensor.

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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[Joseph McAllister]

On Sep 2, 2010, at 14:24 , eckinator wrote:


2010/9/2 Thibouille :

They did make progress, clearly.
But AF-C, with "objects" going from or to the camera are still Pentax
AF nightmare.
K7 AF-S is much better than K10 though.


It seems to me like AF doesn't pick something to follow but will just
randomly focus on the highest contrast item closest to any given focus
point with a slight preference for the more central ones. This usually
doesn't mean faces etc. I have many perfectly focused shots of hand
rails and seat backs...
Thanks
Ecke



And yet the K-7 will recognize and choose optimum focus for up to  
fifteen faces, so they say!



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Re: I hate my K10D's AF

[Joseph McAllister]

On Sep 2, 2010, at 13:52 , eckinator wrote:


Aaaargh... that thing doesn't have front or back focus, it has effin'
wack focus... I just finished culling over 100 pictures of Mattis
riding a slow kids' carousel and less than ten are properly focused. I
shot images using both auto and manual focus point selection as I was
anticipating this. Please tell me the current models have more brains
before I am tempted to succumb to the yellow peril again...


I went out today with my K-7 with the DA*16-55 (been using it for the  
pasts couple of days) and half the time when I pressed the shutter  
button or the AF button, the thing would just sit there, out of focus.  
Gonna run it through some tests tomorrow after I clean the contacts  
and use center focus instead of the whole sensor.




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Re: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Derby Chang]

 On 5/09/2010 5:32 PM, Bob W wrote:

I've been looking into ways of stuffing my Leica safely into my saddlebag
for the daily commute so I can use the camera at lunchtimes around the
fascinating area where I'm working. While talking to someone in the local
Leica pushers yesterday I had the idea of using the minute screwmount 35/3.5
Elmar, which lies almost flush against the camera body.

This is the one I tried - it was made in 1935 according to the serial
number:
<  http://www.theclassiccamera.com/product_details_2560.htm>

Here's one of the sample pictures I took. This is the whole frame:
<  http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1f.jpg>

Here's a crop from the same sample shot:
<  http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>

That's a 75-year-old lens on a 4-ish-year-old digital body. Very tempting. I
know of 3 others of this type that are available at the moment, so I'm going
to have a look at them during the week.

Bob



Hi Bob

Acquired Paul Wolff's Leica book a few months back. Seems the Elmar was 
one of his favourite lenses. Incorrigible Nazi, but the book has some 
superb street work.


Not a 35, but have you thought about a Voigtlander 28/3.5? Just as 
teeny. Discontinued, but you are more likely to get a 2nd hand one in 
good condition than the Elmars.


http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtlen.htm#28/3.5


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Re: PESO 2009 - 141 - GDG

[David J Brooks]

Has a lonely feel to it.

Dave

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> working on a blog post but this photo didn't fit ... and I like it too
> much to not post it around. figured the folks on here would enjoy it.
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/4957812427_56057152fe_o.jpg
> Panasonic G1 + Lumix G 20mm f/1.7
> ISO 100 @ f/4.5 @ 1/250 second
>
> .. Went to the meetup point for the usual Saturday morning walk with
> my friends and this late 1960s Falcon Pickup just somehow resonated
> with my eyes, framed just like this in b&w. I immediately pulled out
> the camera and took a photo. Two minutes later, the owner walked up
> and it was gone. Glad I had the camera ready ... :-)
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Re: Tamron 17-50 vs 28-75 ?

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> On 3 September 2010 09:53, Sam L  wrote:

> One problem some people report is getting bad samples, so make sure
> you purchase from a retailer that allows exchanges.

Yes this is important. I had to return two of the 28-75's.

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RE: Fairly large earthquake

[Chris Mitchell]

David Mann wrote:
> Sent: 05 September 2010 11:02
> I heard from my boss, he went into the city to check out the office
> building.  Had to talk his way past the cops, then once he got to the
> building he went through the "keep out" tape (naughty!) and started
> collecting computers and important documents.  Nearly got himself
> arrested (IMO he should have been).  He says the office is pretty well
> screwed, lots of water damage from the sprinkler system.  He's dropping
> my work PC off at my house tomorrow so I can get some work done while
> he sorts out some temporary premises.  I hope it doesn't take long as
> I'll go crazy working alone.
> 
> I won't be able to go into the CBD tomorrow as I was planning to
> anyway, as it will still be cordoned off.  I think the engineers are
> still busy evaluating all the buildings.  So I don't know when I'll get
> to see my commuter bike again, it's still at work where I left it on
> Friday :(

You mean your boss didn't pick it up when he went in for all those so called
"important" items?

Chris



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Re: PESO - Curveball

[Boris Liberman]

Most enjoyable... I think you're not doing this shot justice by 
disliking lots of things about it :-).


Boris


On 9/2/2010 2:07 PM, frank theriault wrote:

There's a lot of things I ~don't~ like about this one, but enough good
things that I'm showing it anyway.

;-)

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/09/curveball.html

For one thing I had the wrong lens (from my vantagepoint I needed
something shorter than 200mm, so a zoom would have been nice).
Hopefully this weekend there'll be some games and I can spend a good
long time there with a zoom getting more shots.

*istD, M200mm f4.0, Manfrotto monopod.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Parasurfer

[Boris Liberman]

Frank, this is excellent picture, but it looks like it a result of 
rather heavy crop on your part...


Boris


On 9/4/2010 2:13 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Saw this guy out parasurfing around dusk the other night.  Too bad the
sail or parachute part of his apparatus is so far from his body - to
get them both in the same shot would mean he'd be way too small.
Anyway, here he is:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/parasurfer.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: confusing k-x behavior

[Thibouille]

The FA50 seems to have dirty contacts.
I suppose it was correctly set to 'A' setting.

It may need a repair if cleaning the contacts does not help.


2010/9/2 Collin Brendemuehl :
> Guys,
>
> I was using the pop-up flash, set @ ISO 200, for some CraigsList ads.
> http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1931961328.html
> Nothing "serious" but still strange.
> With the A35/2, when the flash pops up the ss changes to 1/180 automatically.
> With the FA50/1.4, not so.  At least not this evening.
> Still, the camera exposed the images properly.
> And the end result is most of it.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Collin Brendemuehl
>
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> -- Jim Elliott
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RE: Fairly large earthquake

[Bob W]

> >> we are fine - Palmerston North is a long way from Christchurch.
> >> Masha felt the quake mildly - I slept through
> >>
> >
> > excellent, good to hear
> 
> Good indeed.  If you [Alistair] have any friends or relatives down here I
hope
> they're OK.
> 
> I heard from my boss, he went into the city to check out the office
building.
> Had to talk his way past the cops, then once he got to the building he
went
> through the "keep out" tape (naughty!) and started collecting computers
and
> important documents.  Nearly got himself arrested (IMO he should have
> been).  He says the office is pretty well screwed, lots of water damage
from
> the sprinkler system.  He's dropping my work PC off at my house tomorrow
> so I can get some work done while he sorts out some temporary premises.  I
> hope it doesn't take long as I'll go crazy working alone.
> 

Ahem, what happened to the business continuity and disaster recovery plan?
Surely you've rehearsed it twice a year! ..

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RE: OT: Mighty Elmar

[Bob W]

> > That's a 75-year-old lens on a 4-ish-year-old digital body. Very
> > tempting. I know of 3 others of this type that are available at the
> > moment, so I'm going to have a look at them during the week.
> 
> Care to post a photo of the lens mounted on the body?  It must look quite
> interesting.

it does indeed, but I didn't take a photo of it. If I buy one I will do so.

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Re: OT: Mighty Elmar

[David Mann]

On Sep 5, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Bob W wrote:

> That's a 75-year-old lens on a 4-ish-year-old digital body. Very tempting. I
> know of 3 others of this type that are available at the moment, so I'm going
> to have a look at them during the week.

Care to post a photo of the lens mounted on the body?  It must look quite 
interesting.

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Re: Fairly large earthquake

[David Mann]

On Sep 5, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> we are fine - Palmerston North is a long way from Christchurch.
>> Masha felt the quake mildly - I slept through
>> 
> 
> excellent, good to hear

Good indeed.  If you [Alistair] have any friends or relatives down here I hope 
they're OK.

I heard from my boss, he went into the city to check out the office building.  
Had to talk his way past the cops, then once he got to the building he went 
through the "keep out" tape (naughty!) and started collecting computers and 
important documents.  Nearly got himself arrested (IMO he should have been).  
He says the office is pretty well screwed, lots of water damage from the 
sprinkler system.  He's dropping my work PC off at my house tomorrow so I can 
get some work done while he sorts out some temporary premises.  I hope it 
doesn't take long as I'll go crazy working alone.

I won't be able to go into the CBD tomorrow as I was planning to anyway, as it 
will still be cordoned off.  I think the engineers are still busy evaluating 
all the buildings.  So I don't know when I'll get to see my commuter bike 
again, it's still at work where I left it on Friday :(

Cheers,
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LR2 to LR3, a collection transfer problem

[Thibouille]

A moved from LR2 to LR3 but I still have a little problem to sort.
When I transfered my catalog, the Quick Collection (if that's the
correct term in English) did get to LR3.
I converted it to 'usual' collection, exported it as catalog to
reimport into LR3 but LR3 won't import it because pictures are doubles
(obviously).
I understand why it acts like that but I only wants to have that
collection back without having to look myself in LR2/LR3 and pick the
images manually again.

Is there any way to do this?

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OT: Mighty Elmar

[Bob W]

I've been looking into ways of stuffing my Leica safely into my saddlebag
for the daily commute so I can use the camera at lunchtimes around the
fascinating area where I'm working. While talking to someone in the local
Leica pushers yesterday I had the idea of using the minute screwmount 35/3.5
Elmar, which lies almost flush against the camera body. 

This is the one I tried - it was made in 1935 according to the serial
number:
< http://www.theclassiccamera.com/product_details_2560.htm>

Here's one of the sample pictures I took. This is the whole frame:
< http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1f.jpg>

Here's a crop from the same sample shot:
< http://www.web-options.com/Elmar-1.jpg>

That's a 75-year-old lens on a 4-ish-year-old digital body. Very tempting. I
know of 3 others of this type that are available at the moment, so I'm going
to have a look at them during the week.

Bob


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Re: Boz's site (Was: Pentax MV1 with accessories)

[Thibouille]

He is but only a couple times per year...

2010/9/5 Peter Loveday :
>> I'd check Boz's page but I'm feeling too lazy.
>
> Talking of which, anyone know what is happening with Boz's site?  It hasn't
> been updated in well over a year (July 2009), and so has no mention of the
> Kx at all, and perhaps more recent lens releases (not sure about this).
>
> It would be a shame to lose this resource to neglect... is Boz no longer
> wanting to maintain it?
>
> - Peter
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Re: 6x7 gear on ebay

[Thibouille]

Paul, I think the cost of shipping from US to EU (+ taxes) makes it difficult.
A pity, I think I'd happily get at least body + one lens around those prices.

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Re: Being back...

[Thibouille]

Thanks, Dan and Boris ;)

2010/9/3 Daniel J. Matyola :
> Welcome back!
>
> Dan
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
>> As you may have noticed, I didn't check the list or respond to threads
>> for quite some time, being busy with a lot of other stuff.
>> However, I'm back in business, and since I'll attend photo courses now
>> (as posted in another thread) I should be active within time
>> constraints.
>>
>> Regards to all.
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DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ...
Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7
Programing: Delphi 2009

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