Re: OT Anybody have a used Nikon DSLR for sale?

2011-01-22 Thread David Mann
On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Cotty wrote:

 On 21/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 What is a D1 worth?
 
 Mark!
 
 What's in your pocket?

Lint.

Dave

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PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread AlunFoto
My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

And image only:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

sigh

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PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread frank theriault
Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

;-)

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Re: k-5 at 12,800

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
No noise reduction. It's shot raw and converted in ACR. 
Paul

On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

 Has that been through a really good noise-reducer like for example LR3's?
 
 Nice shot, captures a moment. -T
 
 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 I shot some pics at a pool hall last night. I've shot there before. The 
 light is horrible. Rendering requires a lot of highlight reduction and 
 shadow pumping. Last year I shot with the K-7. 3200 was really too slow, 
 6400 was very noise. This year I shot with the K-5 at both 6400 and 12800. 
 Noise was very good at 6400 and acceptable at 12800. I rendered the pics on 
 my laptop, so they're a bit crude at the moment. I'll do some touchups on 
 the big screen later, but here's a sample of a 12,800 shot.
 
 It's with the DA*16-50/2.8, f4, 1/80th, 12,800 ISO, 50 mm
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12369569size=lg
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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful. Wonderful light and composition. 
Paul
On Jan 22, 2011, at 5:45 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
 make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html
 
 And image only:
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
 or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m
 
 As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...
 
 sigh
 
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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:45 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
 make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

 And image only:
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
 or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

 As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

 sigh

Wow, that's impressive!!

Wonderful photo, too.  ;-)  The light and composition are amazing.

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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Outstanding, Frank!  I love how everyone in sight is texting. The framing is 
spot on.

BTW Did you see that video of the girl who fell into a mall reflecting pool 
while walking and texting?

-bmw

Sent from my iPod

On 2011-01-22, at 7:31 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Jack Davis
Now really, Frank, you had to have set this up with a promised reward. ;)
Incredible catch!!

Jack

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 Subject: PESO - Connecting
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 4:31 AM
 Heaven forbid we should talk to the
 person next to us:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele

AlunFoto wrote:


My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

And image only:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

sigh

Jostein

 

That's a rather eerie compliment to Toines First Contact  - Im 
guessing the visitors landed in the lower right hand corner.


Ann





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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:


Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

 


thats a great shot

ann



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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Toine
Amazing capture and a little sad to see this behaviour.

On 22 January 2011 13:31, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

 ;-)

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 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well seen  and perfectly framed.
Paul

On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Outstanding, Frank!  I love how everyone in sight is texting. The framing is 
 spot on.
 
 BTW Did you see that video of the girl who fell into a mall reflecting pool 
 while walking and texting?
 
 -bmw
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 2011-01-22, at 7:31 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread David J Brooks
Great framing and subject.

Dave
not sent from my iPod

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

 ;-)

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Re: OT Anybody have a used Nikon DSLR for sale?

2011-01-22 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-01-22 4:25 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Cotty wrote:


On 21/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


What is a D1 worth?

Mark!

What's in your pocket?

Lint.


I see your lint and raise you a used kleenex.

-bmw

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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Beautiful. Wonderful light and composition.
 Paul

Dito

Dave
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 5:45 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
 make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

 And image only:
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
 or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

 As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

 sigh

 Jostein

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Re: OT Anybody have a used Nikon DSLR for sale?

2011-01-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:16 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1/21/2011 9:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


 What is a D1 worth?

 Based on how fast digital equipment depreciats I'd put the price between
 $150 and $250 US, if you can find one for sale.  At that price it's really
 not worth selling.  It's a bit like owning a old beater of a car.  If it
 runs it's worth more than you can probably sell if for.

Well that is my thought as well. I'll probably just keep them all, and
let my daugher and son in law figure out how to get rid of them later.

Dave


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Re: PESO: First contact?

2011-01-22 Thread David J Brooks
I think the BW has a more dramatic edge to it

Dave

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 Or blinded by the light?

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/156-first-contact

 I can't make up my mind about colour or bw...

 Toine

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Re: First contact?

2011-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila
My vote is for the color, Toine.  The color gives greater distinction to the 
trees--and light too.  And the color is interesting.  To me it makes the 
shot.  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO: First contact?



Or blinded by the light?

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/156-first-contact

I can't make up my mind about colour or bw...

Toine

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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila

Excellent framing, Frank.  Well seen!  Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:31 AM
Subject: PESO - Connecting


Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

;-)

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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, that's beautiful.  Make sure you do a nice report on your blog about 
your experiences using the camera.  Would love to hear your views, Auto. 
Lovely, lovely picture!  Cheers, Christine



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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:45 AM
Subject: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night



My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

And image only:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

sigh

Jostein

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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread Jack Davis
No, Ann, I think that's swamp gas.

Jack

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 From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 6:03 AM
 AlunFoto wrote:
 
 My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and
 I'm trying to
 make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced
 with it:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html
 
 And image only:
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
 or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m
 
 As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...
 
 sigh
 
 Jostein
 
   
 
 That's a rather eerie compliment to Toines First
 Contact  - Im 
 guessing the visitors landed in the lower right hand
 corner.
 
 Ann
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: peso - late light

2011-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila


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Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 2:17 AM
Subject: peso - late light



I am slowly processing the shots form my last weekend hike.
I kind of like this one:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5374419889/lightbox

Does it work for you?



Love the light and color and composition.  I'd like it more with less sky, 
but that may be a minor nit.  Cheers, Christine 



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Re: PESO: First contact?

2011-01-22 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-01-21 5:46 PM, Toine wrote:

Or blinded by the light?

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/156-first-contact

I can't make up my mind about colour or bw...

Toine


Intriguing and dramatic shot, Toine.  Both are fine renditions but if 
they were framed, my mind's eye says it would prefer the colour version.


-bmw

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PDML Polska?

2011-01-22 Thread mike wilson
Will be in Poland from the Monday before to the Friday after Easter.
Certainly based in Krakow for the first week with rafting the Dunajec
and the other usual tourist things.  Available to travel the second
week - will probably be in Warszawa for at least a few days.

Anyone want to meet up?  May have accommodation available over Easter weekend.

mike

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Re: wish me luck!

2011-01-22 Thread mike wilson
On 21/01/2011, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 Ok, so I don't know how I've pulled this off, but in the past four days I
 have managed to put together a huge project for the Flood Appeal.

Let us know if there's online availability, please.

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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread AlunFoto
2011/1/22 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:
 No, Ann, I think that's swamp gas.

So maybe aliens burn their farts too, then.

Jostein

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Re: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

Great shot. It speaks for itself.

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Re: PESO: First contact?

2011-01-22 Thread AlunFoto
Can't help you decide, Toine, but definately a cool shot in either version.
Jostein

2011/1/21 Toine to...@repiuk.nl:
 Or blinded by the light?

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/156-first-contact

 I can't make up my mind about colour or bw...

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Re: PESO: First contact?

2011-01-22 Thread Toine
Thanks everyone for watching and commenting. I guess I keep both
renderings. Maybe I'll try to blend them both in photoshop.

Toine

On 21 January 2011 23:46, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 Or blinded by the light?

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/156-first-contact

 I can't make up my mind about colour or bw...

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Boris PESO #3 - Object formerly known as palm

2011-01-22 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-03-object-formerly-known-as.html

Please be brutal and be honest.

Thanks!

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peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila
I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't 
like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html 



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RE: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Bob W
 I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  

That's what Vivian Maier used to say - must be something in the air around
there.

 Comments welcome.  If you
 don't
 like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html

I think it's superb. Very atmospheric.

B


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RE: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Bob W
 Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html
 
 ;-)
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

You've caught the zeitgeist and put it in a nutshell.

B


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Re: Boris PESO #3 - Object formerly known as palm

2011-01-22 Thread Jack Davis
Although I think this is a fine composition and the palm stump and attached 
growth(?) have a pleasing symmetry, the surrounding debris, while pertinent, is 
distracting.

Jack 

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 Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 9:05 AM
 Hi!
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-03-object-formerly-known-as.html
 
 Please be brutal and be honest.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Paul Stenquist

On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:




Paul,

Regarding the last sentence in your comment, more specifically,
the word anything. Can you sell merchandise (a T-shirt or a
calendar) with a photo of a celebrity you snapped on a city
street or at a public event? The way I read the book (and other
materials), - that would be a violations of the existing laws.


I'm not sure. You're taking it beyond a photograph, and there may be
trademark issues involved. The passage you quoted from the book
didn't touch on anything of that nature. It merely seemed to deal
with use or a photo for advertising or promotions. That's obviously
taboo. But I'm no expert when it comes to drawing a fine line. I just
wouldn't do it.
Paul



My take on this ...

T-shirts are not advertising, but you could still be in trouble under 
other rules that allow celebrities to control merchandising of their 
image (image as brand name).


The calendar is a different matter. What the image is and why it's in 
the calender makes a difference.


If every month has a different celebrity or different images of the same 
celebrity, that's the same as the T-shirts.


OTOH, if you're doing a calender about swing dancing in your community, 
and Frankie Manning had come to one of the dances, you wouldn't need a 
release for a photo of him at the local dance.


Or a calendar about motor sports. You wouldn't need a release for a 
photo of Steve McQueen and his Porsche that you took while you were 
attending a race.


Or a calendar about your home town. You've got the doyen of the garden 
club's prize winning roses to illustrate May. You've got the church's 
nativity scene to illustrate December. You've got a photo you took of 
that nice young man who was born in your home town and used to live down 
the street ... who is now a world famous, multi-millionaire celebrity 
... to illustrate whatever month he was born. You don't need a release 
from him any more than you need a release from the roses or from the 
nativity scene.


If the work succeeds without the celebrity image, you don't need a 
release to include the celebrity image.


Note: As specified above by Igor, the celebrity image is a photograph 
you took in a public space; one you snapped on a city street or at a 
public event.



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One day late ForSale post

2011-01-22 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

Missed Friday by one day, as I often do. Three lenses are offered at 
this time:


1. Pentax SMC FAJ 18-35/4-5.6. Having both DA 21 and FA 20/2.8 I don't 
seem to have any use for this one.


2. Pentax SMC FA 24-90/3.5-4.5. Bought it from a fellow list member, but 
Sigma 24-60/2.8 finds way more use than this one. No need to hold on to 
something that I am unlikely to put to use.


3. Tamron 28-75/2.8. This one I am awaiting a final word from a fellow 
list member for, but if they pass, it might be yours. Bought it from yet 
another fellow list member (former, as far as I can tell, sadly). This 
one is a good sample, again Sigma 24-60/2.8 pushed this one out of 
active duty mainly because of its wider wide end of the zoom range.


If you're interested, please contact me off the list.

Sorry for being late.

Boris

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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Jack Davis
Looks a lot like what we in northern California's central valley have been 
living in for way too long (sh, Chamber of Commerce is always listening). 
Was the sepia tone intentional..or is my monitor going to catch it again?

Jack

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 Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 9:09 AM
 I've been sitting on this one,
 wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't like
 it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers,
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Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
Photojournalism says he's still alive and doing quite well. Reports of 
his death have, to coin a phrase, been greatly exaggerated.


He did note with a touch of wistfulness that his great friend, 
Photojournalism JOBS, has not been seen for quite some time, and seems 
to have passed from the scene.



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Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling

Here's a question, what if your photograph of a random person made them
a celebrity.  Could they then turn around and sue you for misuse of
their recognizable image.  I'll bet you could get an attorney to ague
that they had that right.


If you've registered your copyright before they became famous, you can 
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Re: subminiature film ...

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms
Got a quick response from Rocky Mountain Film Labs to my question about 
processing old Kodachrome as BW.


The returned film will be negatives.

On Topic because I have a bunch of old 110 cartridges of Kodachrome-64.


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Re: Wildlife in Iowa

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Eric Weir

On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:


From: Eric Weir

On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:


This is a fine example of wild life in Iowa. Species:
Iowanus Bovina Herfodi.

Only problem is they're not Herfords. They're Black Angus.


OTOH ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI

Oh, I don't know if that's as good as the Chick-Fil-A billboards.


I think it ought to be the official song of the PDML. Every other line 
in the lyrics is a bad pun.


My original response was going to be that it might be an example of 
Iowa wildlife, but it couldn't be Iowa wild life, because there was 
no evidence of cow tipping.




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Re: OT - New Lieca covering

2011-01-22 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

Thanks for pointing this out to me...
I don't own collector cameras, so if it is not useful - why get it?
Though, if push came to shove you could eat it to survive :-)

César
Lynn Haven, FL

On 1/1/11 4:59 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/12/special-edition-leica.html 



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Re: OT - New Lieca covering

2011-01-22 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

Frank,

I am still waiting on my first check...

César
Lynn Haven, FL

On 1/1/11 6:00 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:59 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/12/special-edition-leica.html

Has anyone alerted Ceaser?

ROTFLMAO:

Anything but the very lightest touch would naturally cause the
chocolate chips to run or melt; thus, anyone acquiring one of these
highly desirable cameras on the aftermarket will be able to see almost
literally at a glance that their camera has never been degraded by any
picture-taking activity.

I think Cesar gets a commission of $50,000 for each one sold...

cheers,
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RE: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Chris Mitchell
Christine Aguila wrote:
 I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you
 don't
 like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html
 
Love the atmosphere. Not sure about the composition though - the LH side
sort of peters out. Is there a different crop which might balance it better?

Chris



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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Sorenson
I like this.  I DO wonder if there is more on the left side, but I like 
the sepia rendering.  Unless you look for the late model cars it has a 
timeless feel to it.


-p

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don't like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like it. Nice composition, and the monochromatic rendering supports the mood. 
Did you take it on Adams, looking toward Michigan?

Paul
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Re: Boris PESO #3 - Object formerly known as palm

2011-01-22 Thread steve harley

On 2011-01-22 10:05 , Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-03-object-formerly-known-as.html


i like subjects like this; your composition makes me stop to think about 
my own instincts -- if i were shooting it i'd probably get closer and 
have very little of the sand in the frame; with a subject that is 
naturally close to symmetrical, but which deviates from perfect symmetry 
in interesting ways, i often let the subject take the center of the frame


maybe pump the blue a little (even if the reddish sand is natural) and 
draw out the detail in the shadows at the top of the stump (could be 
limited by the size you chose for the JPEG)


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Re: OT Anybody have a used Nikon DSLR for sale?

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling

On 1/21/2011 9:58 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:17 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com
wrote:

My friend Sandy is starting to look for a DSLR.  She has
an old Nikon AF 35mm  (a 2020) and some AF lenses plus a
couple of MF lenses.  My suggestion is that she start out
with a cheap used DSLR to learn what she really needs.
In the best case, she'll find out that a $200 used camera
fits her needs, in the worst case she'll decide she needs
a D700, but would at least skip the intermediate stage of
buying an $800 D5000 kit from costco, and finding out it
doesn't fit her needs.  She may find out that the D5000
would work, but in a couple months the $800 kit should be
down to $700.

I'd normally recommend Pentax for people on a budget, but
since she already has a bunch of Nikon mount glass, she's
probably better off not switching.

If anyone knows of something that might interest her,
I've cc'd her on this email: Sandy
kitsunem...@gmail.com


-- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

Larry., I still have a D1, D1H, D2H and the D200.

I have often toyed with letting the D1 go.

What is a D1 worth?

Based on how fast digital equipment depreciats I'd put the price
between $150 and $250 US, if you can find one for sale.  At that
price it's really not worth selling.  It's a bit like owning a old
beater of a car.  If it runs it's worth more than you can probably
sell if for.



I looked at KEH.

D1   2.65Mp LN- $275
D1x  5.47Mp EX+ $465 to BGN $245

D100 6.1Mp Ex+ $265 to BGN $189
If I'm not mistaken, the D100 uses the same Sony sensor Pentax used for 
the *ist-D.


The attractive thing about KEH is they have well defined condition 
standards and my experience is they apply those standards very 
conservatively. I have purchased BGN items from KEH, and in every 
instance, when I examined the item I did not see the kind of wear that 
would make the item BGN by their published standards, rather than EX 
(or even EX+).


It looks like Nikon gear doesn't depreciate as much as Pentax gear, but 
at the same time, KEH has a lot more Nikon gear on offer, which tends to 
moderate their prices for used Nikon gear.







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Re: OT Anybody have a used Nikon DSLR for sale?

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann

On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Cotty wrote:


 On 21/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


 What is a D1 worth?


 Mark!

 What's in your pocket?

Lint.


Lint? You lucky bastard! We were so broke we couldn't even afford lint. 
We had to scrape the moss off the north side of trees.


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Re: Boris PESO #3 - Object formerly known as palm

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-03-object-formerly-known-as.html

Depressing. But perhaps capturing one of the inevitables of life -- death. 

Even all that BS aside, just as an image it doesn't appeal to me. 

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RE: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Christine  Aguila

I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't
like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html



The sepia rendering gives it a very nostalgic, antique feel. If you 
don't look too closely at some of the details it might be a view of the 
early 20th century instead of the 21st.


I like how the clouds come down between the upper stories of the 
buildings framing the street.



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Re: OT Anybody have a used Nikon DSLR for sale?

2011-01-22 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 01:51:52PM -0500, John Sessoms wrote:
 From: David Mann
 On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Cotty wrote:
 
  On 21/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  What is a D1 worth?
 
  Mark!
 
  What's in your pocket?
 Lint.
 
 Lint? You lucky bastard! We were so broke we couldn't even afford
 lint. We had to scrape the moss off the north side of trees.

You had trees?  You was lucky!!


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Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 He did note with a touch of wistfulness that his great friend, 
 Photojournalism JOBS, has not been seen for quite some time, and seems to 
 have passed from the scene.

I think that's one of the motivations of the article: When photojournalism is 
no longer being done by photojournalists, because there are many and 
increasingly fewer jobs than there used to be, what, specifically, might we be 
losing? Call it navel gazing if you want, throw a fit if you want, I found it 
an interesting question, and I thought the review was well done. It made me 
want to read the things he was reviewing.

Actually, though, I didn't mean to start a discussion -- contrary to what my 
poorly chosen subject heading may suggest -- but just to call attention to the 
review. Certainly it's not a topic on which I'm qualified to speak. I just 
thought there might be a few who would find it interesting. 

Regards, 
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Peso: The Device

2011-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
A shot I took with the E-P1 while we had our Mass Spec partially
disassembled.   I did for record purposes, but it's kind of neat:

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

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Re: OT Anybody have a used Nikon DSLR for sale?

2011-01-22 Thread Subash
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:51:52 -0500
John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: David Mann
  On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Cotty wrote:
 
   On 21/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
   What is a D1 worth?
  
   Mark!
  
   What's in your pocket?
  Lint.
 
 Lint? You lucky bastard! We were so broke we couldn't even afford
 lint. We had to scrape the moss off the north side of trees.

where's greywolf when you need him? 
 
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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't 
 like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html

I like them both. Nice sharp images, well framed. I think BW helps to capture 
the mood of the city at times like that.

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Lightroom deal at BH

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir

Just came across this on The Online Photographer. Don't know if it's anything 
anyone here could take advantage of, but just in case.  

 Adobe Lightroom $100 Off
 
 BH Photo is offering $100 off Adobe Lightroom 3 when purchased with any one 
 of dozens of cameras and lenses. (Click on the Buy Together  Save tab at 
 the bottom of any entry.)

This notice was dated January 18.

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Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

  . . .Actually, though, I didn't mean to start a discussion ...

On PDML Discussion is our middle name (for values of middle  ≥ -1,  ≤ 2 )

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Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 22, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 On PDML Discussion is our middle name (for values of middle  ≥ -1,  ≤ 2 )

Yeah, I've noticed. Freaked me out when I first joined up and immediately 
started receiving 200-300 messages a day. Couldn't bring myself to even look. 
But when I did I found it was just all the back-and-forth of discussion among a 
few good friends. That, by contrast, was very appealing.

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Re: Is photojournalism relevant anymore?

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Franklin

On 2011-01-21 19:39, Eric Weir wrote:


Interesting article on the relevance of photojournalism today in
this week's New Republic. Its a review of the introduction to the
catalogue of the Cartier-Bresson exhibit organized by the Museum
of Modern Art that is now in San Francisco and a new book on
photography and political violence. In concluding the reviewer
describes the writers as levelheaded romanticsdetermined to
rescue the power of photography from the scourge of
sensationalism.
http://www.tnr.com/article/the-picture/81733/photojournalism-cartier-bresson-capa?utm_source=ESP+Integrated+Listutm_campaign=3b8c2d6859-TNR_BA_012111utm_medium=email





Sounds to me like largely pointless navel-gazing.  Time will tell us
what the role of future photojournalism will be.  Prognosticating
about it now does little good, to my mind, other than figuring out
where there might be investment opportunities, if you're not a photo
journalist, or where the job opportunities will, or won't, be, if you
are.


It took me several attempts to read through it, but I finally figured 
out it's not really an article about photojournalism.


It's a book review by the New Republic's Art Critic, deconstructing a 
postmodernist work criticizing a lack of moral relevance in today's 
criticism of photojournalism, comparing that to another work on the 
history of photography criticism. All of which appear to be driven 
mainly by a lament for the passing of the genre of great, popular, 
photography driven, weekly news magazines as represented by Life and 
Look.


Obfuscation piled upon obscurity, although I may have gotten them backwards.

It's difficult to see where Linfield's criticism of photojournalism 
criticism's lack of relevance ends and Perl's criticism of Lindfield's 
lack of relevance begins. Or how either of them fit into the difficult 
terrain where the most extreme artistic expressions and the most urgent 
ethical questions cannot be disentangled.


It's another postmodernist repetition of the Worm of Ouroboros (the 
dragon who devours his own tail). The story ends in the same place where 
it begins, circling in an ever descending spiral until it vanishes up 
its own asshole.


I just don't understand postmodernism. You can't kill it by hitting it 
over the head with a big rock. So, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't 
really exist.


I do agree that Life and Look were great magazines, and I wish they were 
still around ... and still hiring.


See also: Hoop Snake.


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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's a wonderful image.  How much is the 645D out your way?

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 My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
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 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

 And image only:
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
 or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

 As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Christine Aguila wrote:

I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you 
don't like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html

I like it... trying to figure out exactly where you were - the 
signifigant landmarks for me are hidden by the fog , methinks


ann


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Re: Peso: The Device

2011-01-22 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Steven Desjardins wrote:


A shot I took with the E-P1 while we had our Mass Spec partially
disassembled.   I did for record purposes, but it's kind of neat:

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

 


yes it is neat - I like the blurry guy bokeh too.


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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think it's Adams, looking west toward Michigan. But it could be Washington or 
Madison. In any case, the cross street in the background is Michigan Avenue.
Paul
On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 
 
 Christine Aguila wrote:
 
 I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't 
 like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html
 
 I like it... trying to figure out exactly where you were - the signifigant 
 landmarks for me are hidden by the fog , methinks
 
 ann
 
 
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Re: First contact?

2011-01-22 Thread Ken Waller

Colored version works for me.

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Subject: PESO: First contact?



Or blinded by the light?

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/156-first-contact

I can't make up my mind about colour or bw...

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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Tim Bray
It's a keeper.  -T

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 I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't
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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread Tim Bray
It's a lovely image, but the colors look kind of harsh and weird on my
screen.  Is there a little WB issue in there?

- Tim (who does NOT need a 645D. No no no nono)

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a wonderful image.  How much is the 645D out your way?

 On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:45 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
 make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

 And image only:
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
 or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

 As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

 sigh

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Re: k-5 at 12,800

2011-01-22 Thread Tim Bray
As a matter of choice?  If you can't bring yourself to do it, post a
RAW somewhere and I'll try the LR magic (and btw it is pretty
magical).  -T

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 No noise reduction. It's shot raw and converted in ACR.
 Paul

 On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

 Has that been through a really good noise-reducer like for example LR3's?

 Nice shot, captures a moment. -T

 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 I shot some pics at a pool hall last night. I've shot there before. The 
 light is horrible. Rendering requires a lot of highlight reduction and 
 shadow pumping. Last year I shot with the K-7. 3200 was really too slow, 
 6400 was very noise. This year I shot with the K-5 at both 6400 and 12800. 
 Noise was very good at 6400 and acceptable at 12800. I rendered the pics on 
 my laptop, so they're a bit crude at the moment. I'll do some touchups on 
 the big screen later, but here's a sample of a 12,800 shot.

 It's with the DA*16-50/2.8, f4, 1/80th, 12,800 ISO, 50 mm

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12369569size=lg
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Re: Peso: The Device

2011-01-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Steven Desjardins wrote:

A shot I took with the E-P1 while we had our Mass Spec partially
disassembled.   I did for record purposes, but it's kind of neat:

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

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Re: Model releases/commerical use/etc

2011-01-22 Thread Ken Waller

My take on this ...


MARK !

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RE: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: John Sessoms

From: Christine  Aguila

 I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't
 like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine

 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html


The sepia rendering gives it a very nostalgic, antique feel. If you
don't look too closely at some of the details it might be a view of the
early 20th century instead of the 21st.

I like how the clouds come down between the upper stories of the
buildings framing the street.


I know you're not supposed to respond to your own posts, but I wanted to 
add that I find the image evocative of both Stieglitz and Steichen in 
their photographs of the Flatiron Building in NYC.


I like the way it's off center. The intersection is at a point of strong 
emphasis, the verticals of the University Club building on the right 
side of the street and Michigan Ave in front of it lie closely on the 
line of thirds, and there's an implied horizontal third where the 
barely visible roofline of the the fog shrouded building on the right 
just tops the trees, extending across to the ornamental frieze atop the 
University Club building.


The painted lines on Monroe street, the curb on the right, the 
descending diagnal repetition of the globes on the street lamps all draw 
your eye to the street between the buildings. The oncoming headlamps and 
hint of clearing skies in the distance are the brightest elements in the 
image, capturing the viewer. The brighter sky is an arrow pointing down 
into the street.


No matter where you first enter the image, there's an element that leads 
you to the the center of attention on the street down between the 
buildings.


This is a DAMN GOOD photo Christine!


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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Ken Waller
I'd like it more if it was in portrait orientation with the RH side cropped 
to eliminate the low lying wall.


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From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: peso chi fog pic


I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you don't 
like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine


http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html



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RE:Subject: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Don Guthrie
Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:31:12 -0500
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Connecting
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank


Another classic Frank. It also looks my wife and I when we went out
for breakfast this AM.

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Re: Wildlife in Iowa

2011-01-22 Thread Don Guthrie
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:04:52 -0500
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Wildlife in Iowa
Message-ID: 4d3b1c44.6020...@nc.rr.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

From: Eric Weir
 On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Eric Weir
 On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

 This is a fine example of wild life in Iowa. Species:
 Iowanus Bovina Herfodi.
 Only problem is they're not Herfords. They're Black Angus.

 OTOH ...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI
 Oh, I don't know if that's as good as the Chick-Fil-A billboards.

I think it ought to be the official song of the PDML. Every other line
in the lyrics is a bad pun.

My original response was going to be that it might be an example of
Iowa wildlife, but it couldn't be Iowa wild life, because there was
no evidence of cow tipping.



I tipped my waitress this morning but a never!

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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Paul Stenquist

I think it's Adams, looking west toward Michigan. But it could be
Washington or Madison. In any case, the cross street in the
background is Michigan Avenue.
Paul
On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:




Christine Aguila wrote:


I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.
If you don't like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers,
Christine

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html







I like it... trying to figure out exactly where you were - the
signifigant landmarks for me are hidden by the fog , methinks



University Club of Chicago Building
76 East Monroe St, at the corner of S. Michigan Ave.
1907 - 1909 by Holabird  Roche.

The world's first Gothic-style skyscraper.

http://ia700209.us.archive.org/22/items/universityclubof00univ/universityclubof00univ.pdf

http://preview.tinyurl.com/Uclub-chitown

It *is* a swank building.


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The end of my cow pictures

2011-01-22 Thread Don Guthrie
As I am risking becoming the cow guy, I would like to bring an end
to this business with the business end of the Bovinus genus.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2605/3957795788_17f85b874f.jpg

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Re: Boris PESO #3 - Object formerly known as palm

2011-01-22 Thread Larry Colen
I like the tonality, colors and composition, though I'd shave just a bit off 
the left to put the center of the big chunk of palm closer to on the diagonal.

Was the vignetting from the lighting, or done in post processing?  If in post, 
I wonder how the picture would look without it.

The palm looks straight in the frame, but the background looks like the camera 
was tilted a bit, either that, or it's on a slope.


On Jan 22, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!
 
 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-03-object-formerly-known-as.html
 
 Please be brutal and be honest.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: The end of my cow pictures

2011-01-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

 As I am risking becoming the cow guy, I would like to bring an end
 to this business with the business end of the Bovinus genus.
 
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2605/3957795788_17f85b874f.jpg

And therein lies the tail.

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Re: Boris PESO #3 - Object formerly known as palm

2011-01-22 Thread Darren Addy
I think this image would really work better as a BW.
Also: Life is a beach.

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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Damn-it John. You keep giving critiques like this and I'll learn
something about photography!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 From: John Sessoms

 From: Christine  Aguila

  I've been sitting on this one, wavering.  Comments welcome.  If you
  don't
  like it, feel free to say so.  No prob.  Cheers, Christine
 
  http://www.caguila.com/caguila/chicagofog2/content/_IGP5487_large.html
 

 The sepia rendering gives it a very nostalgic, antique feel. If you
 don't look too closely at some of the details it might be a view of the
 early 20th century instead of the 21st.

 I like how the clouds come down between the upper stories of the
 buildings framing the street.

 I know you're not supposed to respond to your own posts, but I wanted to add
 that I find the image evocative of both Stieglitz and Steichen in their
 photographs of the Flatiron Building in NYC.

 I like the way it's off center. The intersection is at a point of strong
 emphasis, the verticals of the University Club building on the right side of
 the street and Michigan Ave in front of it lie closely on the line of
 thirds, and there's an implied horizontal third where the barely visible
 roofline of the the fog shrouded building on the right just tops the trees,
 extending across to the ornamental frieze atop the University Club building.

 The painted lines on Monroe street, the curb on the right, the descending
 diagnal repetition of the globes on the street lamps all draw your eye to
 the street between the buildings. The oncoming headlamps and hint of
 clearing skies in the distance are the brightest elements in the image,
 capturing the viewer. The brighter sky is an arrow pointing down into the
 street.

 No matter where you first enter the image, there's an element that leads you
 to the the center of attention on the street down between the buildings.

 This is a DAMN GOOD photo Christine!


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Re: Peso: The Device

2011-01-22 Thread drd1135
Funny you should say that. This particular device is called the octopole. ;-)
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Steven Desjardins wrote:

A shot I took with the E-P1 while we had our Mass Spec partially
disassembled.   I did for record purposes, but it's kind of neat:

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

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Re: The end of my cow pictures

2011-01-22 Thread Tim Bray
As far as pictures of cow butts go, that's a good one.  -T

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 On Jan 22, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

 As I am risking becoming the cow guy, I would like to bring an end
 to this business with the business end of the Bovinus genus.

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2605/3957795788_17f85b874f.jpg

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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for everyone's input.  I think the comments about the left hand side 
have validity.  I'll take a look at the original frame see if there's room 
for more fussing.  It's been a while since I fussed with this, so a fresh 
look might work to the picture's advantage.


Darrel, my nephew, and I had just left the Art Institute through the exit 
from the new Modern Wing on to Monroe street.  As mentioned the shot is made 
facing west  the street going north/south is Michigan Ave.  I'm standing in 
the middle of the street trying not to get hit by cars, which made me rush 
the shot.  I rendered it in sepia; it was such a dirty gray foggy  rainy 
day and couldn't get a bw rendering I liked.  When I tried sepia, I felt it 
worked best.  I think I'll print it out to see how I like the coloring of 
the browns etc.


Big thanks to Bob W for his generous remarks and to John S for his very 
thoughtful extended commentary.  Much appreciated guys.


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Re: Peso: The Device

2011-01-22 Thread Christine Aguila


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Steven Desjardins wrote:


A shot I took with the E-P1 while we had our Mass Spec partially
disassembled.   I did for record purposes, but it's kind of neat:

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

 


yes it is neat - I like the blurry guy bokeh too.



I like the blurry guy too!  Cheers, Christine

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lighting suggestions?

2011-01-22 Thread Larry Colen
In a couple of weeks, I'm going to be doing dance portraits again at a local 
milonga.  There's a small dance studio room, my guess is that it's about 9' 
wide, by 15' long with mirrors along the left wall, and behind the curtain in 
these shots:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625618971307/

I'm not entirely pleased with the lighting in these shots, what I think that I 
need to do is something akin to a lightsphere on my big strobe, back and to the 
right of the camera as my key,  bouncing a lot of the light off the ceiling.  
With luck, I'd get enough bounce off the mirror to fill on the left that I may 
not need much in the way of fill flash on the left.

Has anyone had any luck doing something like this?  What did you use for an 
oversized fongdong?

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Re: Wildlife in Iowa

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Don Guthrie

From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com



From: Eric Weir

 On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:


 From: Eric Weir

 On Jan 20, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:


 This is a fine example of wild life in Iowa. Species:
 Iowanus Bovina Herfodi.

 Only problem is they're not Herfords. They're Black Angus.


 OTOH ...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQMbXvn2RNI

 Oh, I don't know if that's as good as the Chick-Fil-A billboards.

I think it ought to be the official song of the PDML. Every other line
in the lyrics is a bad pun.

My original response was going to be that it might be an example of
Iowa wildlife, but it couldn't be Iowa wild life, because there was
no evidence of cow tipping.


I tipped my waitress this morning but a never!


Cows have always been notoriously bad tippers.


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RE: The end of my cow pictures

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Don Guthrie

As I am risking becoming the cow guy, I would like to bring an end
to this business with the business end of the Bovinus genus.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2605/3957795788_17f85b874f.jpg



Reminds me of a poem:

They met on the bridge at midnight
 They shall never meet again
For she was a northbound heifer
 And he was a southbound train.


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Re: peso chi fog pic

2011-01-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob Sullivan

Damn-it John. You keep giving critiques like this and I'll learn
something about photography!
Regards,  Bob S.


Sorry 'bout that.

But it *is* really a good photo and it moves me.


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Re: lighting suggestions?

2011-01-22 Thread Nick David Wright
Most studio-style lights have the option to remove the reflector
giving you a barebulb flash (which is what those fong-dongy things are
largely immitating).

I'm curious why you're not pleased with the lighting in your samples?

The reason I ask ... the light is good, but almost too flat for my
taste. Not enough directionality to it. And going barebulb would only
flatten the light even further.

Were I to do it, I'd start by setting my main light opposite the
mirror with a large scrim between the light and the subject (letting
the mirror provide fill).

I'm also curious ... seeing these are dance portraits, and you're in a
dance room, what's behind the curtain?

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to be doing dance portraits again at a local 
 milonga.  There's a small dance studio room, my guess is that it's about 9' 
 wide, by 15' long with mirrors along the left wall, and behind the curtain in 
 these shots:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625618971307/

 I'm not entirely pleased with the lighting in these shots, what I think that 
 I need to do is something akin to a lightsphere on my big strobe, back and to 
 the right of the camera as my key,  bouncing a lot of the light off the 
 ceiling.  With luck, I'd get enough bounce off the mirror to fill on the left 
 that I may not need much in the way of fill flash on the left.

 Has anyone had any luck doing something like this?  What did you use for an 
 oversized fongdong?

 Any other suggestions on how to handle the lighting?

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What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-22 Thread Larry Colen
With the exception of Godfrey, who sounds like he has achieved gear nirvana and 
sounds like he has all the gear he needs for the photos he takes, I think that 
most of us often run up against the limitations of what our skill can do with 
the gear that we have. And if we're honest with ourselves, skill is usually the 
limiting factor, sometimes it's the gear, and sometimes a certain piece of kit 
can compensate for our own personal limitations. For example, last night I was 
pushing the envelope of what I could do with the K-x photographing backlit 
musicians in an otherwise nearly dark room.  I was sorely missing the improved 
sensor, focus assist light, and focus indicators of the K-r.

I expect that most of us have gear wishlists that would make Bill Gates credit 
cards cringe in terror, we also probably have short lists of gear that we are 
planning on buying in the near future. Generally gear that fills particular 
needs, and which would make a noticeable difference in photos that we regularly 
shoot, or which would allow us to get photos that we simply can't get with the 
gear we have.

What items are on your short list, and why?

At the top of my shortlist is the K-5.  I often find myself in situations where 
even 2/3 stop of performance makes a big difference in the photos that I can 
take. Likewise, there are times when improved autofocus would also help. It 
would also be a lot more convenient for me to have all the features that I need 
for different scenarios, in the same camera, rather than being split between 
two cameras.  My K-x could go back to wearing the DA40 and living in my 
fannypack as my pocket camera, and the K-5 could be my primary camera, and 
stay in my big bag, rather than aways carrying both in the big bag.

I've found that when shooting action, where people are moving around, a zoom 
lens can make a huge difference.  When I'm photographing aikido, I find that I 
need wider lenses when people are defending themselves against multiple 
attackers, and the action covers a large portion of the mat, and moves around a 
lot.  But when only two people are practicing, and they aren't moving around a 
lot, my 50mm isn't quite long enough.  I suspect that a 28-105/2.8  would 
pretty much cover what I need, but since I don't know of one of those the 
28-75/2.8 is probably the closest to what I need.  Alternatively, if I were 
shooting with two cameras, I could get the 50-135 on one body, and the 16-50 on 
another.  I think that the 50-135 would do also do well with the band 
photography I've been doing, considering how often I'm using my 77 or 135 for 
closeups.

The runner ups for my short list are:

DA35 macro :  I love my DA40 for its size and sharpness, but when I carry it as 
a walk around lens, especially on hikes in the woods, I often find myself 
wishing it were a bit wider, and focused a bit closer.

Samyang 85/1.4  :  I'm still hurting over the A* 85/1.4 that the guys wife sold 
at work while I was waiting for him to get home from running his errands.  I 
keep needing that little bit extra shutter speed.  I'd love a modern f/1.4 lens 
in the 75-90mm range, but I doubt that I'd be able to afford it before sensors 
got so fast that I no longer needed that speed. 

Sigma 30/1.4 :  My FA31/1.8 may be a better lens, but again, I often find 
myself wishing I had that extra 2/3 of a stop of speed, so that I could bump my 
shutter speed up from 1/10 to 1/15 second.

Something wider than 16mm.  

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Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-22 Thread Nick David Wright
Larry, I swear you find the darkest places to shoot in.

The only time I remember ever ~having~ to shoot at 1/15th of a second
was at a house fire out in the country where the only light source was
the house which was on fire
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/phojonick/380184040/). ;;-D

But for me, the only thing on my wish list right now would be a 28mm
shift lens. Unfortunately, it'll probably always be on my wish list.

~nick

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 Sigma 30/1.4 :  My FA31/1.8 may be a better lens, but again, I often find 
 myself wishing I had that extra 2/3 of a stop of speed, so that I could bump 
 my shutter speed up from 1/10 to 1/15 second.

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Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
With the exception of Godfrey, who sounds like he has achieved gear nirvana

I guess Siddhartha Godfrey is the photobuddha.  ;-)

I'm probably looking at the new DA35-135.  I think this is a great
walking around range for me.  I'm experimenting with the F35-135 to
see if I like it.  I would probably love the 60-250 but it's so
expensive.  I'm happy with the K7 so the K5 will probably pass me by.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Nick David Wright
pedalsandpr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Larry, I swear you find the darkest places to shoot in.

 The only time I remember ever ~having~ to shoot at 1/15th of a second
 was at a house fire out in the country where the only light source was
 the house which was on fire
 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/phojonick/380184040/). ;;-D

 But for me, the only thing on my wish list right now would be a 28mm
 shift lens. Unfortunately, it'll probably always be on my wish list.

 ~nick

 On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Sigma 30/1.4 :  My FA31/1.8 may be a better lens, but again, I often find 
 myself wishing I had that extra 2/3 of a stop of speed, so that I could bump 
 my shutter speed up from 1/10 to 1/15 second.

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Re: Boris PESO #3 - Object formerly known as palm

2011-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nice tones and composition.  It's a creepy looking thing; the shot is
really interesting.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2011/01/peso-2011-03-object-formerly-known-as.html

 Please be brutal and be honest.

 Thanks!

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Re: PESO - Suburbia Winter Night

2011-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's a wonderful image.  How much is the 645D out your way?

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 My pusher has let me borrow the 645D for a week, and I'm trying to
 make the most of it. Here's one night shot produced with it:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/01/suburbia-winter-night.html

 And image only:
 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/TTqbqalC42I/AxY/zaREfgWRd18/s1600/20110121-0010-Edit.jpg
 or abbreviated: http://turl.no/e0m

 As for drugs, you know, the first shots are free...

 sigh

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Re: lighting suggestions?

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I shot this in a fitness center. Relatively small room. There was a row of 
mirrors behind me. I shot with the flash on camera, pointing backwards over my 
shoulder and up at about a 45 degree angle, so that it centered approximately 
on the pint where the ceiling and mirrors met. I believe I had a diffuser on 
the flash, probably a softbox. I checked to make sure I wasn't creating a hot 
spot in the mirrors on the other side of the room before firing away. 
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5869395size=lg

On Jan 22, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 In a couple of weeks, I'm going to be doing dance portraits again at a local 
 milonga.  There's a small dance studio room, my guess is that it's about 9' 
 wide, by 15' long with mirrors along the left wall, and behind the curtain in 
 these shots:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625618971307/
 
 I'm not entirely pleased with the lighting in these shots, what I think that 
 I need to do is something akin to a lightsphere on my big strobe, back and to 
 the right of the camera as my key,  bouncing a lot of the light off the 
 ceiling.  With luck, I'd get enough bounce off the mirror to fill on the left 
 that I may not need much in the way of fill flash on the left.
 
 Has anyone had any luck doing something like this?  What did you use for an 
 oversized fongdong?
 
 Any other suggestions on how to handle the lighting?
 
 --
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Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-22 Thread Eric Weir

On Jan 22, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Nick David Wright wrote:

 the only thing on my wish list right now would be a 28mm shift lens.

I could look this up, but what is a shift lens?

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Re: Subject: PESO - Connecting

2011-01-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Great shot.  It reminds of the movie Wall-e, where all the people are
riding around on floating lounge changes talking on video cell phones.
 These two guys are talking to each other on the phone next to each
other.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Message: 5
 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 07:31:12 -0500
 From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Connecting
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Heaven forbid we should talk to the person next to us:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/01/connecting.html

 ;-)

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
 frank


 Another classic Frank. It also looks my wife and I when we went out
 for breakfast this AM.

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Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have all the cameras and lenses I need for my work. I do need to send one of 
my flashes in for repair. I'd like an 8-foot softbox for my studio, but I don't 
really need it at the moment. Of course, I'd like an FA 600/4 and gimbal head 
for my occasional bird shoots, but that would be just a big expensive toy, so 
it isn't going to happen. Generally I'm covered quite well with the DA* zooms, 
a half dozen primes and my K-5 and K-7.
Paul

On Jan 22, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 With the exception of Godfrey, who sounds like he has achieved gear nirvana 
 and sounds like he has all the gear he needs for the photos he takes, I think 
 that most of us often run up against the limitations of what our skill can do 
 with the gear that we have. And if we're honest with ourselves, skill is 
 usually the limiting factor, sometimes it's the gear, and sometimes a certain 
 piece of kit can compensate for our own personal limitations. For example, 
 last night I was pushing the envelope of what I could do with the K-x 
 photographing backlit musicians in an otherwise nearly dark room.  I was 
 sorely missing the improved sensor, focus assist light, and focus indicators 
 of the K-r.
 
 I expect that most of us have gear wishlists that would make Bill Gates 
 credit cards cringe in terror, we also probably have short lists of gear 
 that we are planning on buying in the near future. Generally gear that fills 
 particular needs, and which would make a noticeable difference in photos that 
 we regularly shoot, or which would allow us to get photos that we simply 
 can't get with the gear we have.
 
 What items are on your short list, and why?
 
 At the top of my shortlist is the K-5.  I often find myself in situations 
 where even 2/3 stop of performance makes a big difference in the photos that 
 I can take. Likewise, there are times when improved autofocus would also 
 help. It would also be a lot more convenient for me to have all the features 
 that I need for different scenarios, in the same camera, rather than being 
 split between two cameras.  My K-x could go back to wearing the DA40 and 
 living in my fannypack as my pocket camera, and the K-5 could be my primary 
 camera, and stay in my big bag, rather than aways carrying both in the big 
 bag.
 
 I've found that when shooting action, where people are moving around, a zoom 
 lens can make a huge difference.  When I'm photographing aikido, I find that 
 I need wider lenses when people are defending themselves against multiple 
 attackers, and the action covers a large portion of the mat, and moves around 
 a lot.  But when only two people are practicing, and they aren't moving 
 around a lot, my 50mm isn't quite long enough.  I suspect that a 28-105/2.8  
 would pretty much cover what I need, but since I don't know of one of those 
 the 28-75/2.8 is probably the closest to what I need.  Alternatively, if I 
 were shooting with two cameras, I could get the 50-135 on one body, and the 
 16-50 on another.  I think that the 50-135 would do also do well with the 
 band photography I've been doing, considering how often I'm using my 77 or 
 135 for closeups.
 
 The runner ups for my short list are:
 
 DA35 macro :  I love my DA40 for its size and sharpness, but when I carry it 
 as a walk around lens, especially on hikes in the woods, I often find myself 
 wishing it were a bit wider, and focused a bit closer.
 
 Samyang 85/1.4  :  I'm still hurting over the A* 85/1.4 that the guys wife 
 sold at work while I was waiting for him to get home from running his 
 errands.  I keep needing that little bit extra shutter speed.  I'd love a 
 modern f/1.4 lens in the 75-90mm range, but I doubt that I'd be able to 
 afford it before sensors got so fast that I no longer needed that speed. 
 
 Sigma 30/1.4 :  My FA31/1.8 may be a better lens, but again, I often find 
 myself wishing I had that extra 2/3 of a stop of speed, so that I could bump 
 my shutter speed up from 1/10 to 1/15 second.
 
 Something wider than 16mm.  
 
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Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-22 Thread Nick David Wright
It's a special lens which allows you to move the lens elements in
relation to the film plane. Gives you a small amount of control over
the perspective of your photos (like the kind of control you get with
a large format camera).

For example, you can shoot a tall building without the somewhat
annoying keystoning effect.

On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On Jan 22, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Nick David Wright wrote:

 the only thing on my wish list right now would be a 28mm shift lens.

 I could look this up, but what is a shift lens?

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Re: What gear is on your short list?

2011-01-22 Thread John Francis

 What items are on your short list, and why?

K-5 + 60-250

I don't *need* either of these; I've got a perfectly functional
K10D, and the 80-200.  But the K-5 would be nice in low light,
and the 60-250 is a lot easier to carry around all day, with
just a little more reach at either end of the range.


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