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Quoting Walt Gilbert :


On 2/2/2012 1:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On 2/1/2012 10:44 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Here's a re-crop. I tried to replicate the original look as much as I
could using what tools I have at my disposal (GIMP and Picasa), though I
got the shadows a bit darker in this one.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6805434841/


I think you took too much off the top.  I much preferred the  
composition with the feather closer to the left edge. On the left,  
I'd leave just a little space past the knuckle. On the top you  
could crop it square, you could crop it just below the lights at  
the top (which didn't bother me, and they kind of frame the  
picture), and/or you could burn in the lights a the top a bit, so  
make them a little darker so they don't stand out quite so much.


Or you can just go with what looks good to you because no matter  
what you do, some people will like it more, others less.



I sort of liked the original crop a little better, too -- and agree  
with the lighter area at the top helping to frame the image a bit  
and break up the negative space.  I'll see what I can do with a  
square crop, but don't know how that would look in a book if it were  
actually published.




Well, if you only submit one photo it is guaranteed to be published  :-)>

I agree with Larry that the re-crop is a bit too much.  A bit off the  
top (just below that light 'blob') and a tad off the right is how I  
would do it.  But - what works for you is the main thing.




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RE: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Bob W

> 
> >...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
> 
> I'm definitely what you would call "function-oriented": If a camera
> works well I don't concern myself with its looks much. But it does
> occur to me that it has to be frustrating to hire a big-name designer
> (and presumably pay his big-name fees) only to end up something that
> ugly as the end result.
> 

imo it's very rare that a so-called designer ever produces anything other
than hideous crap. There are few exceptions - the Porsche-designed Contax
RTS being what. What they do is not design, but styling. Since form follows
function it requires a real designer to design the camera in the first
place, based around fit, usability and so on. If they do the job right the
camera comes out beautiful and doesn't need a stylist. Bringing in a stylist
smacks of desperation and a camera designed by marketers, not by camera
makers.

B


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Re: PESO: Panache


On 2/2/2012 1:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On 2/1/2012 10:44 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Here's a re-crop. I tried to replicate the original look as much as I
could using what tools I have at my disposal (GIMP and Picasa), though I
got the shadows a bit darker in this one.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6805434841/


I think you took too much off the top.  I much preferred the 
composition with the feather closer to the left edge. On the left, I'd 
leave just a little space past the knuckle. On the top you could crop 
it square, you could crop it just below the lights at the top (which 
didn't bother me, and they kind of frame the picture), and/or you 
could burn in the lights a the top a bit, so make them a little darker 
so they don't stand out quite so much.


Or you can just go with what looks good to you because no matter what 
you do, some people will like it more, others less.



I sort of liked the original crop a little better, too -- and agree with 
the lighter area at the top helping to frame the image a bit and break 
up the negative space.  I'll see what I can do with a square crop, but 
don't know how that would look in a book if it were actually published.


-- Walt

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Re: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch




On 2/1/2012 10:46 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-02-01 18:54 Darren Addy wrote

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
They seem to follow a routine. A few more "action" shots in this batch.


exciting to see, and a challenge well met by the photographer


I agree.  Great shots.

Oh, and clean the dust off your sensor.





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Re: PESO: Panache




On 2/1/2012 10:44 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Here's a re-crop. I tried to replicate the original look as much as I
could using what tools I have at my disposal (GIMP and Picasa), though I
got the shadows a bit darker in this one.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6805434841/


I think you took too much off the top.  I much preferred the composition 
with the feather closer to the left edge. On the left, I'd leave just a 
little space past the knuckle. On the top you could crop it square, you 
could crop it just below the lights at the top (which didn't bother me, 
and they kind of frame the picture), and/or you could burn in the lights 
a the top a bit, so make them a little darker so they don't stand out 
quite so much.


Or you can just go with what looks good to you because no matter what 
you do, some people will like it more, others less.



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Re: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch

2012-02-01 Thread steve harley


on 2012-02-01 18:54 Darren Addy wrote

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
They seem to follow a routine. A few more "action" shots in this batch.


exciting to see, and a challenge well met by the photographer

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Re: PESO: Panache

Here's a re-crop. I tried to replicate the original look as much as I 
could using what tools I have at my disposal (GIMP and Picasa), though I 
got the shadows a bit darker in this one.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6805434841/

-- Walt


On 2/2/2012 12:01 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I like it - but more when I crop a bit off the top... I think those 
little blurry bits at the top edge take away from the feather.  Also, 
remembering that tall skinny verticals don't get to be as large as the
landscape oriented ones in the annual the crop would give you more 
page space.


This reminds me of the film with Ralph Richardson (and later , Anthony 
Andrews, I think) called "The Four Feathers"


ann


On 2/1/2012 22:11, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy
candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt






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Re: PESO: Panache


On 2/2/2012 12:01 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I like it - but more when I crop a bit off the top... I think those 
little blurry bits at the top edge take away from the feather.  Also, 
remembering that tall skinny verticals don't get to be as large as the
landscape oriented ones in the annual the crop would give you more 
page space.


This reminds me of the film with Ralph Richardson (and later , Anthony 
Andrews, I think) called "The Four Feathers"


ann


Thank you, Ann.

Your reply came in just as the upload completed, unfortunately. I'll toy 
around with it and if it works, I'll see if it'll be too much of a 
hassle for mark to substitute it for the existing submission.


I'm not familiar with that film, but I'll look into it. I'm a complete 
dilettante in matters cinematique.


Thanks again!

-- Walt



On 2/1/2012 22:11, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy
candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt






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Re: PESO: Panache


Thank you, John!

It's now officially my second submission.

-- Walt

On 2/1/2012 11:44 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Very definitely, Walt  - that's a really nice shot.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: PESO: Panache

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and 
thought I
should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the 
foggiest clue as
to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is set at f/2 and the ISO 
would
probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting 
in a dimly
lit bar), not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a 
fairly slow
shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and 
wondered if
anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Panache

I like it - but more when I crop a bit off the top... I think those 
little blurry bits at the top edge take away from the feather.  Also, 
remembering that tall skinny verticals don't get to be as large as the
landscape oriented ones in the annual the crop would give you more page 
space.


This reminds me of the film with Ralph Richardson (and later , Anthony 
Andrews, I think) called "The Four Feathers"


ann


On 2/1/2012 22:11, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy
candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt



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Re: Venice 2011

Very cool, John!
Neat to see that kind of high ISO performance out of a 10 year old DSLR!
(Just procured an *ist D for myself, thanks to PDMLer Tim Bray).

Darren Addy
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RE: Venice 2011

2012-02-01 Thread John Coyle

Enjoyed your gallery of Venice, Stan - recognized a couple of places, I think.  
Looks as
if you went to Burano as well.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2012 7:23 AM
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John - thanks for sharing the Venice shot; that square, that time of day - one 
of my
favorite places.
Here is my own take on the scene from my trip 5 years ago. Pretty much the same 
except
slightly newer camera model (K10D), slightly faster lens (DA21mm @ f/3.2), 
slightly lower
ISO (800), slightly slower shutter speed (1/6 sec) and slightly different 
angle. 

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p987672957/e310a4036

stan

On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:57 AM, John Coyle wrote:

> No, I don't use LR, much prefer Elements as a one-stop shop.  I did do 
> colour noise reduction with detail retention, but it did not make a 
> lot of difference to my eye.  More effective seemed to be "Noise/Despeckle" 
> with
"Enhance/Adjust Sharpness" to follow.
> 
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf 
> Of Rick Womer
> Sent: Monday, 30 January 2012 1:11 PM
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> 
> Moderation in all things, John!  (and some noise reduction in LR3?)
> 
> Rick
>  
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: John Coyle 
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' 
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> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31 PM
> Subject: RE: Venice 2011
> 
> Hi Rick - now you'll see the flaws!
> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@iinet.net.au/PiazzaSanMarco_lg
> e.jpg
> 
> Warning -it is over 5MB in size. 
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012 1:46 PM
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> 
> I like it!  It's fun to see an almost-empty San Marco.
> 
> Can you provide a somewhat larger size?
> 
> Rick
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> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:01 PM
> Subject: Venice 2011
> 
> Finally beginning to edit my images from my trip to Italy, spurred on 
> by Rick's excellent examples.
> 
> Here's one showing the extent to which I pushed my *istD - 3200 ASA!
> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@iinet.net.au/PSanMarco.html
> 
> Pentax *istD, 3200 ASA,  DA 16-45 at 16mm, 1/15 @ f4 Comments, 
> plaudits and brickbats equally welcome.
> 
> 
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RE: PESO: Panache

2012-02-01 Thread John Coyle

Very definitely, Walt  - that's a really nice shot.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and 
thought I
should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the 
foggiest clue as
to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is set at f/2 and the ISO 
would
probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting 
in a dimly
lit bar), not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a 
fairly slow
shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and 
wondered if
anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Panache


On 2/1/2012 10:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On 2/1/2012 7:11 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy
candidate.


It works for me. Wonderful tones, nice composition, even the blur in 
the background is nicely composed.




Thanks!

-- Walt




Thanks, Larry!

That's two affirmative votes, so I figure that's enough to justify 
uploading it.


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Re: PESO: Panache




On 2/1/2012 7:11 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy
candidate.


It works for me. Wonderful tones, nice composition, even the blur in the 
background is nicely composed.




Thanks!

-- Walt



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Re: At the track

2012-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller

It really depends on the ultimate intended usage!
Large print or Internet only.


-Original Message-
>From: Christine Nielsen Subject: Re: At the track
>
>On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:42 PM,   wrote:
>> Great captures given the subject & the conditions.
>
>Thanks, Ken.
>>
>> How could they be better?
>
>Well... at the risk of appearing unreasonable... When I pixel-peep at
>these images, and look at the faces in particular, the noise gets
>bothersome... I just wonder how much better a FF sensor would be at
>resolving those little details at the same ISO... Or if it would have
>helped at all to shoot them as DNGs... Not that I'm all that bothered
>(fer cryin' out loud, we're talking 16,000 iso!), I just wonder.
>
>:)
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Re: PESO: Panache


On 2/1/2012 10:04 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Gets a thumbs up from me!

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

Thank you, Frank!

I was actually able to find the EXIF data and discovered that it was a 
1/90 sec. exposure at ISO 400.  Apparently, it was still daytime and I 
had plenty of light to work with when I took the photo.






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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: PESO: Panache

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
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neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt




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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Tim Bray

Yeah, but then the Americans burned Toronto, too.  Now, I'm not saying
that's all right, but I'm not saying it's all wrong either.
 -T

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:53 PM, William Robb
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> On 01/02/2012 6:43 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>>
>> Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
>> including each other.
>
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> Yeah, and we whipped your asses, chased you home and burned down your White
> House.
> HAR!!
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RE: Geso Lights with snow

Excellent!

cheers,
frank

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Bolton 
Subject: Geso Lights with snow

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1025659

Did some playing last night. Temp's have warmed up and snow was
melting, the back yard under the snow was like a lake, so i played
until my feet were soaked and cold.

K-5 D FA 50F2.8 between f 16 and f11,

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Re: PESO - Glorious Dead

Thanks, Dan.

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: PESO - Glorious Dead

That's a great image, Frank.

The language on the monument is remarkable in itself:  "Glorious
Dead"!  Of course, the juxtaposition with the person on the sidewalk
is powerful, and then the walker ignoring both really completes it.

Dan Matyola
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> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/01/glorious-dead.html
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Re: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch

2012-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller


Nice captures!
Like many images I've taken, the experience is more rewarding than the image 
captured!

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>Subject: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
>They seem to follow a routine. A few more "action" shots in this batch.
>
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RE: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch

Amazing collection of photos.

Cheers,
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
They seem to follow a routine. A few more "action" shots in this batch.

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RE: PESO: Panache

Gets a thumbs up from me!

Cheers,
frank

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Sent: February 1, 2012 2/1/12
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Subject: PESO: Panache

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image 
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the 
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture 
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the 
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), 
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a 
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual 
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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PESO: Panache


Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image 
and thought I should get some input on it.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the 
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture 
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the 
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), 
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a 
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).


In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual 
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.


Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: K-01 is here...


From: Walt Gilbert


On 2/1/2012 5:26 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:

...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html


I think it looks fine, but what do i know... I like the looks of my volvo 240.

-Adam


I've been afraid to chime in lest I be the lone philistine in the group
(as though my photography hadn't long ago pegged me as such), but I
agree. It's not so bad to my eye. I would happily carry it right out in
the open for all to see.

-- Walt


I don't think it's ugly, but without an eye-level viewfinder, it just 
won't work for me.


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Re: OT PESO - Aussy Day Lightshow


From: Stan Halpin


On Jan 31, 2012, at 12:19 AM, David Mann wrote:

(As an aside, I do find it annoying that it tends to be easy to find weather 
forecasts but difficult to find weather histories.)

Dave


http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=christchurch+NZ

Scroll down. Left side of the screen, choose a date and get historical.

stan


Or hysterical if that's what floats your boat.  8-D

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Re: snowy owls on NBC nightly news

The one on the pole is really nice, Matt
ann

On 2/1/2012 19:25, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

They just did a piece on them and their southernly appearance
I saw it on Tv but then found this link on line

http://www.nbc.com/news-sports/msnbc-video/2012/02/reaction-to-snowy-owl-wow/

Thanks, I just saw that story on the news. The footage is always
enjoyable to watch. Here's some extended commentary from Cornell's
eBird project (which collects bird observations from birders):

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/the-winter-of-the-snowy-owl

As the eBird story notes, here in the Northeast, the winter of
2008-2009 was better than this year so far. In February 2009, we were
very lucky and had two of them here in Cambria County, Pennsylvania. I
got to see both of them. My photographs are very much like Darren's:
One on a telephone pole, and one flying away:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/327932/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3279180339/lightbox/

When my wife and I got to the site where the first one was hanging
around, we stood under the telephone pole, oblivious to the owl,
scanning every furrow of the fields with our binoculars, looking for
the bird. Another birder drove up, got out of his car, and asked us
what we saw. He thought it must have been something remarkable for us
to be ignoring the Snowy Owl above our heads.

The poor bird who made it to Hawaii this year (their first ever) was
shot dead as a hazard to aircraft.

http://hawaii.land.blogs.civilbeat.com/post/16450956889/details-emerge-about-snowy-owl-holiday-death

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Re: snowy owls on NBC nightly news




On 2/1/2012 19:24, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Ann Sanfedele :


They just did a piece on them and their southernly appearance
I saw it on Tv but then found this link on line


http://www.nbc.com/news-sports/msnbc-video/2012/02/reaction-to-snowy-owl-wow/




I don't think they're going to get this far south.


Not?

ann



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RE: Beer


From: Bill Owens


http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/01/30/sexual-chocolate-beer?hpt=hp_bn13

Bill


I am so happy to see good news coming out of North Carolina for a change.

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Re: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch


Nice set, Darren


Keep goin back!
ann

On 2/1/2012 20:54, Darren Addy wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
They seem to follow a routine. A few more "action" shots in this batch.

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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Of course, the Robb Thing is incorrect anyway.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
> including each other.
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:36 PM, William Robb
>  wrote:
>> On 01/02/2012 6:18 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ritax? This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate
>>
>>
>> Why not just Pentax? No one bastardizes Nikon into Nikobishi or Mitsubon.
>> Yes friends, Nikon really is owned by the same company that made Pearl
>> harbour possible.
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Re: Two days until K-01 announcement


From: Darren Addy


Sorry. That should have read "Newson-inspired design", not Newton.
He invented physics.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska


Oh. I thought you meant this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_%28platform%29

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Re: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch

2012-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan

Like those Darren!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
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RE: Venice 2011

2012-02-01 Thread John Coyle

Thanks Frank!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Stunning shot!

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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From: John Coyle 
Sent: January 30, 2012 1/30/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: Venice 2011

No, I don't use LR, much prefer Elements as a one-stop shop.  I did do colour 
noise reduction with detail retention, but it did not make a lot of difference 
to my eye.  More effective seemed to be "Noise/Despeckle" with "Enhance/Adjust 
Sharpness" to follow.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Moderation in all things, John!  (and some noise reduction in LR3?)

Rick
 
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Subject: RE: Venice 2011

Hi Rick - now you'll see the flaws!
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@iinet.net.au/PiazzaSanMarco_lge.jpg

Warning -it is over 5MB in size. 

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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I like it!  It's fun to see an almost-empty San Marco.

Can you provide a somewhat larger size?

Rick
 
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Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:01 PM
Subject: Venice 2011

Finally beginning to edit my images from my trip to Italy, spurred on by Rick's 
excellent examples.

Here's one showing the extent to which I pushed my *istD - 3200 ASA!
http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@iinet.net.au/PSanMarco.html

Pentax *istD, 3200 ASA,  DA 16-45 at 16mm, 1/15 @ f4 Comments, plaudits and 
brickbats equally welcome.


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Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
They seem to follow a routine. A few more "action" shots in this batch.

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Re: K-01 is here...


On 01/02/2012 6:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Yeah, and we whipped your asses, chased you home and burned down your
White House.


If only you'd done that ten years ago, you would have saved us all a lot
of bother and money.



At some point, we have to let you make your own mistakes. It's part of 
growing up.



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Re: K-01 is here...




On 2/1/2012 4:53 PM, William Robb wrote:

On 01/02/2012 6:43 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
including each other.


Yeah, and we whipped your asses, chased you home and burned down your
White House.


If only you'd done that ten years ago, you would have saved us all a lot 
of bother and money.




HAR!!



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Re: K-01 is here...


On 01/02/2012 6:43 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
including each other.


Yeah, and we whipped your asses, chased you home and burned down your 
White House.

HAR!!

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Re: K-01 is here...


Quoting William Robb :


On 01/02/2012 6:18 PM, Brian Walters wrote:






Ritax? This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate


Why not just Pentax? No one bastardizes Nikon into Nikobishi or Mitsubon.
Yes friends, Nikon really is owned by the same company that made  
Pearl harbour possible.




So is my car



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++
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Re: Geso Lights with snow

2012-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

I like sphere 2 and sphere 3. Well done.
Paul
On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:17 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1025659
> 
> Did some playing last night. Temp's have warmed up and snow was
> melting, the back yard under the snow was like a lake, so i played
> until my feet were soaked and cold.
> 
> K-5 D FA 50F2.8 between f 16 and f11,
> 
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Re: K-01 is here...

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

> Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
> including each other.

Hell, we've each fought ourself.

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Re: OT PESO - Light Play

2012-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

At least you had the courage to try, Mr. Brooks. Savage's light play work gives 
us all something to aspire to.
Paul
On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Ok, ok, i need to practice some more.:-)
> 
> Great shot love the sky
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:35 PM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>> 
>> Dave showed his, it's only fair I show mine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Enjoy.
>> 
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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Steven Desjardins

Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
including each other.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:36 PM, William Robb
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> On 01/02/2012 6:18 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>
>>
>
>>
>> Ritax? This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate
>
>
> Why not just Pentax? No one bastardizes Nikon into Nikobishi or Mitsubon.
> Yes friends, Nikon really is owned by the same company that made Pearl
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Re: K-01 is here...


On 01/02/2012 6:18 PM, Brian Walters wrote:






Ritax? This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate


Why not just Pentax? No one bastardizes Nikon into Nikobishi or Mitsubon.
Yes friends, Nikon really is owned by the same company that made Pearl 
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Re: snowy owls on NBC nightly news

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> They just did a piece on them and their southernly appearance
> I saw it on Tv but then found this link on line
>
>
> http://www.nbc.com/news-sports/msnbc-video/2012/02/reaction-to-snowy-owl-wow/

Thanks, I just saw that story on the news. The footage is always
enjoyable to watch. Here's some extended commentary from Cornell's
eBird project (which collects bird observations from birders):

http://ebird.org/content/ebird/news/the-winter-of-the-snowy-owl

As the eBird story notes, here in the Northeast, the winter of
2008-2009 was better than this year so far. In February 2009, we were
very lucky and had two of them here in Cambria County, Pennsylvania. I
got to see both of them. My photographs are very much like Darren's:
One on a telephone pole, and one flying away:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/327932/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3279180339/lightbox/

When my wife and I got to the site where the first one was hanging
around, we stood under the telephone pole, oblivious to the owl,
scanning every furrow of the fields with our binoculars, looking for
the bird. Another birder drove up, got out of his car, and asked us
what we saw. He thought it must have been something remarkable for us
to be ignoring the Snowy Owl above our heads.

The poor bird who made it to Hawaii this year (their first ever) was
shot dead as a hazard to aircraft.

http://hawaii.land.blogs.civilbeat.com/post/16450956889/details-emerge-about-snowy-owl-holiday-death

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Re: snowy owls on NBC nightly news


Quoting Ann Sanfedele :


They just did a piece on them and their southernly appearance
I saw it on Tv but then found this link on line


http://www.nbc.com/news-sports/msnbc-video/2012/02/reaction-to-snowy-owl-wow/





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Re: Two days until K-01 announcement

2012-02-01 Thread Cotty

On 31/1/12, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Conspiracy theorists say that the London location was chosen due to
>proximity to Cotty. Somebody from Pentax must have been reading PDML...
>:-)

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Re: PESO- The Trestle


Quoting David J Brooks :


I like it. Good detail and comp.

Dave, railway kinda guy, Brooks




Thanks, Dave



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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Brian Walters  
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G'day all

I was sorting though some of the back catalogue (I always like that term -
it sounds impressive even if the contents aren't) looking for railway-themed
images for the February PUG.

I came across this one from 2006. The front part of the bridge has been cut
down to cater for large trucks on the nearby main road.  It  
must have been

something to see trains passing over the high trestle when the line was
operating.  It closed in 1987.

I'm not using it in the PUG so I thought I'd PESO it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP4391-PESO.html


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Re: K-01 is here...


Quoting Larry Colen :


Who cares if the K01 looks like carp?

Where I think it will really shine is in making use of M42 lenses.   
The electronic display will compensate for the dark image when it's  
stopped down.  If it has a good zoom for manual focus, you'll be  
able to manually focus them better than you ever have.


It has the potential to totally kick ass for astrophotography and  
microphotography.  If Ritax puts a decent tethering mode on it, it  
could work well for studio work too.




I was unimpressed by the first photos but it's growing on me.  If the  
specs are what I'm hoping, it may be my next camera.


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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread John Francis

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 04:03:25PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> Who cares if the K01 looks like carp?
> 
> Where I think it will really shine is in making use of M42 lenses.

That's assuming it works with them, of course.  IIRC, Pentax released
at least one low-end body that just plain didn't work with anything
earlier than a KA-mount (and wouldn't let you use the aperture ring
on the lens either).

While it looks as though my fears that this might be limited to using
SDM lenses were unfounded, I'm not sure that means M42 or plain K-mount
lenses will be supported.  Time will tell.

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snowy owls on NBC nightly news


They just did a piece on them and their southernly appearance
I saw it on Tv but then found this link on line


http://www.nbc.com/news-sports/msnbc-video/2012/02/reaction-to-snowy-owl-wow/


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Re: K-01 is here...




On 2/1/2012 3:45 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:


I've been afraid to chime in lest I be the lone philistine in the group (as
though my photography hadn't long ago pegged me as such), but I agree. It's
not so bad to my eye. I would happily carry it right out in the open for all
to see.


It looks OK to me, too.

If I had a stable of DA Limiteds or old primes, I'd be pretty
interested (pending price and specs). But all of my lenses are on the
larger size, and I don't have an overwhelming urge to get a smaller
camera body for the DA* 300/4.


Who cares if the K01 looks like carp?

Where I think it will really shine is in making use of M42 lenses.  The 
electronic display will compensate for the dark image when it's stopped 
down.  If it has a good zoom for manual focus, you'll be able to 
manually focus them better than you ever have.


It has the potential to totally kick ass for astrophotography and 
microphotography.  If Ritax puts a decent tethering mode on it, it could 
work well for studio work too.




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Re: K-01 is here...

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

> I've been afraid to chime in lest I be the lone philistine in the group (as
> though my photography hadn't long ago pegged me as such), but I agree. It's
> not so bad to my eye. I would happily carry it right out in the open for all
> to see.

It looks OK to me, too.

If I had a stable of DA Limiteds or old primes, I'd be pretty
interested (pending price and specs). But all of my lenses are on the
larger size, and I don't have an overwhelming urge to get a smaller
camera body for the DA* 300/4.

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Re: At the track

2012-02-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Excellent action photos!
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:42 PM,   wrote:
> Great captures given the subject & the conditions.
>
> How could they be better?
>
> Kenneth Waller
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>
> - Original Message - From: "Christine Nielsen" 
> Subject: GESO: At the track
>
>
>> So... as a follow-up to the other day's hockey pics, I thought I'd
>> share some I did the weekend before, at an indoor track meet.
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157629116216583/with/6796372073/
>>
>> Conditions weren't as chilly, but definitely dimmer, and with
>> faster-moving subjects.  I kept the K-5 at 16,000 ISO most of the day.
>>  Which is starting to push the limit, at least when you peep... I'll
>> also mention that I shot these as jpegs - unintentionally. (D'oh!)  I
>> wonder how that might have limited these images...not that it matters
>> much to their fb audience...
>>
>> But still, it does get one thinking about what difference ff would
>> make in this situation... especially with the uptick in recent chatter
>> on the subject!
>>
>> :)
>> -c
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Re: PESO - Glorious Dead

2012-02-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

That's a great image, Frank.

The language on the monument is remarkable in itself:  "Glorious
Dead"!  Of course, the juxtaposition with the person on the sidewalk
is powerful, and then the walker ignoring both really completes it.

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Re: K-01 is here...


On 2/1/2012 5:26 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:

...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html


I think it looks fine, but what do i know... I like the looks of my volvo 240.

-Adam

I've been afraid to chime in lest I be the lone philistine in the group 
(as though my photography hadn't long ago pegged me as such), but I 
agree. It's not so bad to my eye. I would happily carry it right out in 
the open for all to see.


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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts

Darren Addy wrote:

>Heh:
>http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/173677-pics-k-01-a-5.html#post1802812

A good comment there: "I'm gonna wait on pricing to decide how ugly it
really is". That's a good point and it made me smile.

 
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Re: K-01 is here...


On 01/02/2012 5:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Given the lead time involved in design and manufacture, perhaps it was
Hoya rather than Ricoh who picked up the tab ;-)

I was thinking that the design has Ricoh written all over it. They were 
never big on aesthetics.
I suspect Ricoh had something in the works at buy out and changed the 
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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Adam Montoya

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
> ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
>
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
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I think it looks fine, but what do i know... I like the looks of my volvo 240.

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Re: K-01 is here...


On 01/02/2012 5:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



I wonder how hard it would be to make something that would clip to the
back of a camera like that, so you could use the back like a viewfinder.


A buddy of mine just bought a new Panasonic. It has a clip on EVF that 
goes onto the hot shoe and plugs into a port just below at the same time.
If they are going to do a mirrorless and want to put a finder on it, 
this is the way to do it (other than including the finder in the camera 
from the get go).
For myself, after experiencing the Q, no integral finder, I'm not a 
customer. In a camera such as the Q, I'll compromise it to get small. 
This K-01 isn't going to be small.


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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Roberts

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

>...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):

I'm definitely what you would call "function-oriented": If a camera
works well I don't concern myself with its looks much. But it does
occur to me that it has to be frustrating to hire a big-name designer
(and presumably pay his big-name fees) only to end up something that
ugly as the end result.

Given the lead time involved in design and manufacture, perhaps it was
Hoya rather than Ricoh who picked up the tab ;-)
 
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Geso Lights with snow

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1025659

Did some playing last night. Temp's have warmed up and snow was
melting, the back yard under the snow was like a lake, so i played
until my feet were soaked and cold.

K-5 D FA 50F2.8 between f 16 and f11,

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Re: K-01 is here...

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

>> I wonder how hard it would be to make something that would clip to the
>> back of a camera like that, so you could use the back like a viewfinder.
>>
>> Not entirely unlike this:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-Viewfinder-MarkII-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0042GF4B8
>
>
> Or, if you're a cheap bastard (I'm looking at you Cotty):
> http://lifehacker.com/5780891/make-a-diy-dslr-video-viewfinder-on-the-cheap

Or this:

http://www.geekologie.com/2008/04/warmth-and-privacy-while-using.php

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On 2/1/2012 3:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



I wonder how hard it would be to make something that would clip to the
back of a camera like that, so you could use the back like a viewfinder.

Not entirely unlike this:
http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-Viewfinder-MarkII-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0042GF4B8


Or, if you're a cheap bastard (I'm looking at you Cotty):
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Re: K-01 is here...

On 2/1/2012 2:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Steven Desjardins :

The biggest problem may simply be the lack of any advantages. It's
not that much smaller, no eye level viewfinder, kind weird looking,
etc. I don't see it being cheaper than the Kr. At least the Q was a
compact.

I'm not looking for compact. I'm looking for K-5 IQ in a cheaper body
and the K-01 might just be it.

The rumor mill is suggesting no viewfinder but rumored specs a couple of
days ago suggested an EVF so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Don't you
just love rumors.

Two days ago people were complaining about how small the image in the
viewfinder was, now here's a huge one, and they're complaining about
that too. :-)

I wonder how hard it would be to make something that would clip to the
back of a camera like that, so you could use the back like a viewfinder.

Not entirely unlike this:
http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-Viewfinder-MarkII-Digital-Cameras/dp/B0042GF4B8

But I'd throw some optics in so you could make it shallower and get some
diopter adjustment in the process.

While we're at it, I'd also like a 45 degree mirror so I could use it
like a waist level viewfinder.

Cheers

Brian

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Darren Addy
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Heh:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/173677-pics-k-01-a-5.html#post1802812

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Re: GESO: At the track

2012-02-01 Thread Jack Davis

Upon reviewing my earlier comments, I think I'm being influenced by the 
light/bright backgrounds.(?) Upping the contrast might not be the best idea.
Then again if you were to take down thw highlights, the athletes may suffer.
Best leave it alone. ;)

Jack


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Subject: Re: GESO: At the track

Thanks, Jack.  I'll look at the contrast again...

:)
-c

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> At the displayed size, the images look very clean to my eye. Some a tiny bit 
> washed out, but a slight saturation/contrast bump would easily fix that.
> Well caught action.
>
> Jack
>
>
> 
> From: Christine Nielsen 
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> Subject: GESO: At the track
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> So... as a follow-up to the other day's hockey pics, I thought I'd
> share some I did the weekend before, at an indoor track meet.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157629116216583/with/6796372073/
>
> Conditions weren't as chilly, but definitely dimmer, and with
> faster-moving subjects.  I kept the K-5 at 16,000 ISO most of the day.
>   Which is starting to push the limit, at least when you peep... I'll
> also mention that I shot these as jpegs - unintentionally. (D'oh!)  I
> wonder how that might have limited these images...not that it matters
> much to their fb audience...
>
> But still, it does get one thinking about what difference ff would
> make in this situation... especially with the uptick in recent chatter
> on the subject!
>
> :)
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Re: OT PESO - Light Play

Ok, ok, i need to practice some more.:-)

Great shot love the sky

Dave

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> Dave showed his, it's only fair I show mine.
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Re: PESO - The Gentleman

or,, undoing a knot.:-)

Well captured Frank

Dave

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> In Canada, a gentleman always ties his lady's skates:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/01/gentleman.html
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Re: K-01 is here...


Quoting Steven Desjardins :


The biggest problem may simply be the lack of any advantages.  It's
not that much smaller, no eye level viewfinder, kind weird looking,
etc.  I don't see it being cheaper than the Kr.  At least the Q was a
compact.




I'm not looking for compact.  I'm looking for K-5 IQ in a cheaper body  
and the K-01 might just be it.


The rumor mill is suggesting no viewfinder but rumored specs a couple  
of days ago suggested an EVF so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  Don't  
you just love rumors.




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Heh:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/173677-pics-k-01-a-5.html#post1802812

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Re: PESO- The Trestle

I like it. Good detail and comp.

Dave, railway kinda guy, Brooks

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>
> I was sorting though some of the back catalogue (I always like that term -
> it sounds impressive even if the contents aren't) looking for railway-themed
> images for the February PUG.
>
> I came across this one from 2006. The front part of the bridge has been cut
> down to cater for large trucks on the nearby main road.  It must have been
> something to see trains passing over the high trestle when the line was
> operating.  It closed in 1987.
>
> I'm not using it in the PUG so I thought I'd PESO it.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP4391-PESO.html
>
>
> Comments, suggestions, criticisms all welcome.
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Re: PESO - Snow crystal

Great. You and mark do a wonderful job on the subject

Dave

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> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/snow-crystal.html
>
> It's tricky to make the crystals look really glassy and transparent,
> and yet display a bit of colour. This is one of the best I got today.
>
> It seems that for each bout of snowy weather, there's a particular
> type of... well, architecture... that dominates. This time there were
> long stems with almost fern-like branching and pointy ends. Wish I had
> taken more note of the outdoor temperature so I could compare to the
> next time around.
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Re: GESO: At the track

Well done again. Good colours and detail for 16000

Dave

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> So... as a follow-up to the other day's hockey pics, I thought I'd
> share some I did the weekend before, at an indoor track meet.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157629116216583/with/6796372073/
>
> Conditions weren't as chilly, but definitely dimmer, and with
> faster-moving subjects.  I kept the K-5 at 16,000 ISO most of the day.
>  Which is starting to push the limit, at least when you peep... I'll
> also mention that I shot these as jpegs - unintentionally. (D'oh!)  I
> wonder how that might have limited these images...not that it matters
> much to their fb audience...
>
> But still, it does get one thinking about what difference ff would
> make in this situation... especially with the uptick in recent chatter
> on the subject!
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> :)
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Re: GESO: At the track

Thanks, Don.

Yes, I've heard that as well about sports photogs... I'm guessing they
usually have tons of photos to weed through, and in a short amount of
time, so jpegs make sense.

I'd also guess there's a certain amount of confidence that's required
for shooting jpegs as a pro.  I had a well-regarded instructor at New
England School of Photography who did weddings & events
occasionally... and he always shot jpegs, and would download the
images onto a cd for the client before he left.  I imagine that most
wedding photogs would be loath to do business that way, for several
reasons, but he was just that confident in his ability to get it right
"in camera"...

Ah well, it won't be long 'til baseball season... it was 60 degrees in
Boston this Feb 1...!

:)
-c



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Christine. I think these look great. I did not get a chance to comment on
> your hockey pictures but liked them also.
>
> As to jpegs it is my understanding that most pro sports photogs use jpg for
> their action shots. I know the Scotts (Bourne & Kelby) advocate this.
>  I can't wait for local baseball season to get my sorts thing going.
>
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:54:50 -0500
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> Subject: GESO: At the track
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> So... as a follow-up to the other day's hockey pics, I thought I'd
> share some I did the weekend before, at an indoor track meet.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157629116216583/with/6796372073/
>
> Conditions weren't as chilly, but definitely dimmer, and with
> faster-moving subjects.  I kept the K-5 at 16,000 ISO most of the day.
>  Which is starting to push the limit, at least when you peep... I'll
> also mention that I shot these as jpegs - unintentionally. (D'oh!)  I
> wonder how that might have limited these images...not that it matters
> much to their fb audience...
>
> But still, it does get one thinking about what difference ff would
> make in this situation... especially with the uptick in recent chatter
> on the subject!
>
>
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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Steven Desjardins

The biggest problem may simply be the lack of any advantages.  It's
not that much smaller, no eye level viewfinder, kind weird looking,
etc.  I don't see it being cheaper than the Kr.  At least the Q was a
compact.

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Re: GESO: At the track

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Christine,
> Money you can always replace.  Memories, not so much.  Don't wait.
> Regards,  Bob S.

Yes, that was my line of reasoning when I rationalized this enablement
to my honey...

:)
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Re: GESO: At the track

Thanks, Jack.  I'll look at the contrast again...

:)
-c

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> At the displayed size, the images look very clean to my eye. Some a tiny bit 
> washed out, but a slight saturation/contrast bump would easily fix that.
> Well caught action.
>
> Jack
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>
> 
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> Subject: GESO: At the track
>
> So... as a follow-up to the other day's hockey pics, I thought I'd
> share some I did the weekend before, at an indoor track meet.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157629116216583/with/6796372073/
>
> Conditions weren't as chilly, but definitely dimmer, and with
> faster-moving subjects.  I kept the K-5 at 16,000 ISO most of the day.
>   Which is starting to push the limit, at least when you peep... I'll
> also mention that I shot these as jpegs - unintentionally. (D'oh!)  I
> wonder how that might have limited these images...not that it matters
> much to their fb audience...
>
> But still, it does get one thinking about what difference ff would
> make in this situation... especially with the uptick in recent chatter
> on the subject!
>
> :)
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Re: At the track

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:42 PM,   wrote:
> Great captures given the subject & the conditions.

Thanks, Ken.
>
> How could they be better?

Well... at the risk of appearing unreasonable... When I pixel-peep at
these images, and look at the faces in particular, the noise gets
bothersome... I just wonder how much better a FF sensor would be at
resolving those little details at the same ISO... Or if it would have
helped at all to shoot them as DNGs... Not that I'm all that bothered
(fer cryin' out loud, we're talking 16,000 iso!), I just wonder.

:)
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Re: K-01 is here...

Heh:
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Re: PESO - Snow crystal

2012-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

Well done. I'm always fascinated by snow crystal photos, both in terms of their 
beauty and the expertise required to record them. 
On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:25 PM, AlunFoto wrote:

> Finally got around to play with the fluffy white stuff again. :-)
> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/snow-crystal.html
> 
> It's tricky to make the crystals look really glassy and transparent,
> and yet display a bit of colour. This is one of the best I got today.
> 
> It seems that for each bout of snowy weather, there's a particular
> type of... well, architecture... that dominates. This time there were
> long stems with almost fern-like branching and pointy ends. Wish I had
> taken more note of the outdoor temperature so I could compare to the
> next time around.
> 
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PESO - Snow crystal

2012-02-01 Thread AlunFoto

Finally got around to play with the fluffy white stuff again. :-)
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/snow-crystal.html

It's tricky to make the crystals look really glassy and transparent,
and yet display a bit of colour. This is one of the best I got today.

It seems that for each bout of snowy weather, there's a particular
type of... well, architecture... that dominates. This time there were
long stems with almost fern-like branching and pointy ends. Wish I had
taken more note of the outdoor temperature so I could compare to the
next time around.

Jostein

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Re: OT PESO - Athabasca Falls


Quoting David Savage :


On 1 February 2012 14:34, Brian Walters  wrote:

Quoting David Savage :


G'day All,

Here's a 3 frame vertical pano of the above mentioned taken on last
years trip to .ca:







Very spectacular - certainly different to anything in .au


Thanks mate. Not much in the way of mountains here...


Any special B&W conversion method?


Nothing particularly special.

Stitched in PS, layer masked curves adjustment layer to bring out the
shadow details. Converted to B&W in LR (in the HSL panel dial all the
saturation down), slight tweak of the curves, use the luminance picker
to darken the sky, minus exposure gradient to bring down the hot spot
in the sky on the RHS, further tweaking with the contrast, brightness,
clarity, vibrance & saturation sliders. Sharpen & upload.




Oh - is that all...

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PESO- The Trestle


G'day all

I was sorting though some of the back catalogue (I always like that  
term - it sounds impressive even if the contents aren't) looking for  
railway-themed images for the February PUG.


I came across this one from 2006. The front part of the bridge has  
been cut down to cater for large trucks on the nearby main road.  It  
must have been something to see trains passing over the high trestle  
when the line was operating.  It closed in 1987.


I'm not using it in the PUG so I thought I'd PESO it.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP4391-PESO.html


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Re: K-01 is here...


Quoting Jaume Lahuerta :


...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html




Well, it looks ugly with that 40 mm but will probably look better with  
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GESO: At the track

2012-02-01 Thread Don Guthrie

Christine. I think these look great. I did not get a chance to comment 
on your hockey pictures but liked them also.


As to jpegs it is my understanding that most pro sports photogs use jpg 
for their action shots. I know the Scotts (Bourne & Kelby) advocate this.

 I can't wait for local baseball season to get my sorts thing going.


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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

So... as a follow-up to the other day's hockey pics, I thought I'd
share some I did the weekend before, at an indoor track meet.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157629116216583/with/6796372073/

Conditions weren't as chilly, but definitely dimmer, and with
faster-moving subjects.  I kept the K-5 at 16,000 ISO most of the day.
  Which is starting to push the limit, at least when you peep... I'll
also mention that I shot these as jpegs - unintentionally. (D'oh!)  I
wonder how that might have limited these images...not that it matters
much to their fb audience...

But still, it does get one thinking about what difference ff would
make in this situation... especially with the uptick in recent chatter
on the subject!


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Re: OT PESO - B.


On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Dave,
> You've caught the moment.
> I've noticed how the young ladies in fashionable, strapless gowns
> spend half the wedding celebration tugging on the front of their dresses.

Can't say as I blame her.  Tugging at the front of that dress crossed my mind 
too.
> 

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Re: K-01 is here...

That new 40 looks like it protrudes out the rear far enough that it
could ONLY be used on a mirrorless camera (that's one thing mirrorless
allows you to do). If you can't use it on your mirrored DSLRs its
going to be big yawn time.

Darren Addy
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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread Steven Desjardins

If the price point is right  and it's a K5 sensor that it might be
quite a deal.  It doesn't look like there is an EVF, which would be
bad for long lenses.  I think that new 40 might get all the press.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:05 PM, George Sinos  wrote:
> Not sure if this link has been posted yet.
>
> 
>
> I hadn't really given a mirrorless camera much consideration, but if I
> can get one that takes all of my little pentax primes, and the 10-17
> zoom, I might change my mind.
>
> gs
>
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>
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:15 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 08:21:33AM -0800, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
>>> ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
>>>
>>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
>>
>> I concur.
>>
>> But the product shot with it shown in front of an array of lenses does
>> seem to suggest that it works with more than just SDM (or even DA).
>>
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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread George Sinos

Not sure if this link has been posted yet.



I hadn't really given a mirrorless camera much consideration, but if I
can get one that takes all of my little pentax primes, and the 10-17
zoom, I might change my mind.

gs

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:15 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 08:21:33AM -0800, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
>> ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
>>
>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
>
> I concur.
>
> But the product shot with it shown in front of an array of lenses does
> seem to suggest that it works with more than just SDM (or even DA).
>
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Re: PDML Photo Annual - who's been in all 3 books so far?


On 01/02/2012 12:07 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


On 1/31/2012 6:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Walt Gilbert wrote:


I got some GREAT shots while I was out there! Unfortunately, they're
all
on two dead hard drives -- both RAW and JPEGs!  I guess my
motherboard
sent voltage spikes to them through the USB as it was going down, and
I
don't have the resources to try to recover them.  Every shot I ever
took
before this past July -- GONE.

Oh man, that's painful just to read!

Backup, folks: 3-2-1 method
3 copies of everything
2 different media
1 copy off-site


And remember MegaUpload before deciding on cloud storage..

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RE: PESO - The Gentleman

2012-02-01 Thread Bob W

> 
> Maybe he is  a cad and is untying them, which reminds me of an old
> cartoon from playboy about Eskimos and sex.
> 

probably not related, but I still laugh when I think of the Marines "I don't
know but I've been told..." thing from Full Metal Jacket, in which they
comment on the low temperature of Eskimo lady parts.

> Other than my humor associations I think it is a good photo.
> 
> 



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Re: K-01 is here...

2012-02-01 Thread John Francis

On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 08:21:33AM -0800, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
> ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
> 
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html

I concur.

But the product shot with it shown in front of an array of lenses does
seem to suggest that it works with more than just SDM (or even DA).


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Re: GESO: At the track

2012-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan

Christine,
Money you can always replace.  Memories, not so much.  Don't wait.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Christine,
>> You're getting great results!  I wish I had the K-5 for all those
>> Gymnastic meets I shot in dimly lit gyms with the PZ-1 and ISO1600
>> film.
>
> Thanks, Bob!  I have some gymnastics photos, too...!  Last year was my
> daughter's first year on the team, and I hemmed & hawed for a while
> over getting the K-5... now, I can't believe I waited...
>
> :)
> -c
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Re: PESO 2012 - 017 - GDG

2012-02-01 Thread Jim King


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on Tue, 31 Jan 2012 09:33:50 -0800

> Thanks!
> 
> Some folks have asked to see what the shot Gitta made looked like. I don't 
> have 
> her iPhone exposure, but I did catch this a few moments later:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6796554369/lightbox/

If the shooting info you posted is correct, it appears that you have finally 
gotten your M9.  It's a wonderful camera!

Regards, Jim
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Re: PDML Photo Annual - who's been in all 3 books so far?

2012-02-01 Thread Igor Roshchin


On 1/31/2012 6:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Walt Gilbert wrote:
>
>> I got some GREAT shots while I was out there! Unfortunately, they're
>> all
>> on two dead hard drives -- both RAW and JPEGs!  I guess my
>> motherboard
>> sent voltage spikes to them through the USB as it was going down, and
>> I
>> don't have the resources to try to recover them.  Every shot I ever
>> took
>> before this past July -- GONE.
> Oh man, that's painful just to read!
>
> Backup, folks: 3-2-1 method
> 3 copies of everything
> 2 different media
> 1 copy off-site
>
> http://dpbestflow.org/backup/backup-overview

Diversification is important!
Even cloud storage can go underwater:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MegaUpload-User-Data-Destroyed-Deleted-Access-Backup,14588.html
or 
http://goo.gl/tFe7A .

Igor


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Re: GESO January "best of