RE: K-01 is here...

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> William Robb
> 
> On 05/02/2012 6:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> > The ultimate disrespect for the K-01:  it lost the battle for the
> > hearts of the PDML to toast.
> >
> Toast is, at least, universally in good taste.
> That put it a huge leg up over the K-01
> 

you should get one of your dogs to do that

B


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Re: PESO 2012 - 021 - GDG

[Larry Colen]

I know that pile of axles well!

On 2/5/2012 10:45 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

At the Felton, California "Roaring Camp" train yard ...


When were you here?  If I'd known you were in the area, I'd have made 
the tortuous 1.5 mile drive down to Roaring Camp to say hi... and check 
out your new toys.




http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6828150233/lightbox/
or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6828150233/

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Re: PESO -- Not Communicating

[Larry Colen]

The title and the subject work perfectly for the audience.

I'm very curious about the context of the shot.

On 2/5/2012 10:58 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20notcommunicating.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.



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PESO -- Not Communicating

[P. J. Alling]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20notcommunicating.html

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PESO 2012 - 021 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

At the Felton, California "Roaring Camp" train yard ... 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6828150233/lightbox/
or
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Re: Why Not RAW Format on ALL Digital Cameras?

[mike wilson]

On 06/02/2012 05:40, P. J. Alling wrote:

On 1/29/2012 3:13 AM, Bob W wrote:

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
John Francis

[...]

But relying on auto exposure metering under tricky lighting conditions
is a pretty poor strategy. That's why your camera has a spot metering
mode, and an exposure compensation setting - so you can take control of
the situation yourself. Or you can go the whole hog, and use an
incident
light meter.

Well said! Every photographer should have a whole hog in his arsenal.


Unfortunately my whole hog won't fit in my bag...


You really should get with it and buy one of these modern, far-eastern 
miniaturised hogs.  Whilst they don't have the durability and sheer 
visible presence of a home-grown one, they do a pretty neat job and you 
can slip one into your bag with ease.  Better to have a hog when you 
need one than not - get a black one and everyone will still think you 
are a pro.


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Re: peso: local transport

[Tim Bray]

There's nothing extraordinary on the surface of that picture, but it
sticks in my mind.  Where is it, and is there a story behind it?

 -Tim

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Subash  wrote:
> hi,
>
> back after a longish while, with peso:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Peso#5705886332263498146
>
> k200d, tamron 17-50/2.8. appreciate your comments.
>
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> regards, subash
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peso: local transport

[Subash]

hi,

back after a longish while, with peso:

https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Peso#5705886332263498146

k200d, tamron 17-50/2.8. appreciate your comments.


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Re: PESO 19

[Larry Colen]

On 2/5/2012 7:35 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

I also like the original photo the best. I'd prefer that it had more
depth of field, so that the edge of the door were sharper, but I like
it a lot.


Yeah, I wish I had thinking about it as a "serious photo" when I took 
it, rather than just a geotagged snapshot to help someone recognize the 
place their first time there.  I would have actually thought about 
things like point of focus, depth of field, composition and stuff like that.



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Re: K-01 is here...

[William Robb]

On 05/02/2012 6:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

The ultimate disrespect for the K-01:  it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.


Toast is, at least, universally in good taste.
That put it a huge leg up over the K-01

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Re: PESO - Shameless Plug

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I like the shadows and their location in the frame/\.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Fire plug, that is.  In Center City Philly last week:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15117216&size=lg
>
>
> (K-7, FA 24-90)
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Re: PESO - Shameless Plug

[Ann Sanfedele]

That's fun,Rick

ann

On 2/5/2012 22:16, Rick Womer wrote:

Fire plug, that is.  In Center City Philly last week:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15117216&size=lg


(K-7, FA 24-90)

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Re: Why Not RAW Format on ALL Digital Cameras?

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/29/2012 3:13 AM, Bob W wrote:

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
John Francis

[...]

But relying on auto exposure metering under tricky lighting conditions
is a pretty poor strategy.  That's why your camera has a spot metering
mode, and an exposure compensation setting - so you can take control of
the situation yourself. Or you can go the whole hog, and use an
incident
light meter.

Well said! Every photographer should have a whole hog in his arsenal.


Unfortunately my whole hog won't fit in my bag...


B





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Re: OT: Nashville flea market

[P. J. Alling]

On 2/5/2012 9:13 PM, Anthony Farr wrote:

On 6 February 2012 07:08, P. J. Alling  wrote:


The 150mm was not a popular focal length, (more expensive a 135, which
everyone and his brother just had to have and an odd icky focal length),


Interesting observation but beside the point to my little diatribe.  The 
popular focal lengths of lenses for 35mm photographers were a 50-58mm 
"normal".  (Not very normal, really since normal was a focal length 
equal to the diagonal of the format.  Most though not all other formats 
normal lenses follow that general rule).   A wide angle, usually 35mm in 
focal length, primarily because anything wider began to be hideously 
expensive, even in a bargain off brand, and for some reason not really 
understood, the 135mm.


Now the father of a friend, who was an avid photographer, once told me 
that when building my kit the first lenses I should get should be a wide 
angle of about half my normal lens' focal length, and a telephoto of 
about twice the normal lens' focal length.  Not easy to do, given lens 
prices and availability.  Hell even being an engineer making a pretty 
good wage, my friend's father couldn't really afford to follow his own 
advice, he had a pretty extensive Minolta system built around a pair of 
SRT 101 or 102 cameras, I don't remember which, and his widest angle 
lens was a 35mm, though he had telephotos out to about 500mm.


Most 100-105mm lenses were fast and expensive, (2.8) was fast if you 
didn't have a lot of money.  A 135 in f3.5 with your camera makers brand 
on it was almost affordable, a 135 at 2.8 with a Vivitar, Soligor, 
Albanar, etc, name plate would probably be a bit less expensive than the 
slower OEM, but those were your affordable choices.


The fact that everyone bought a 135mm as their first telephoto 
reinforced that being the normal progression.  Where that particular 
focal length originated as a standard first telephoto doesn't matter.  
The fact is that getting 100mm or 105mm meant you were rich, getting a 
150mm meant you were rich and weird.


Well I happened to get a very good deal on a genuine Super Takumar 150mm 
f4.0 and just bypassed the 135mm entirely, so I was just weird.



Back in the dawn of photography lenses were simpler beasts and cameras
all used plates or sheets of glass, copper, tin or paper, and later on
film.  Many sizes were popular for various uses, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format#Single_image

It followed that many different lens focal lengths were required for
each format to have a normal lens that was the best natural performer
for that image size.  To shoot longer or wider a photographer simply
fitted his camera with the normal lens of a larger or smaller camera.
Wide-angle shooting was a problem, because to make a smaller camera's
normal lens work well on a larger camera it needed to be stopped down
considerable, and still wasn't very good.  Eventually the lens
designers got better at their craft and we got decent wide angle
lenses as well as long focus and portrait lenses that were specialized
to their tasks.

Which is all a long-winded way of saying that "odd icky focal
length(s)" are mostly the normal lenses of forgotten formats.  120mm
is the normal lens of a 3in x 4in camera.   135mm is the normal lens
of a quarter plate camera.   150mm is the normal lens of a postcard
camera.  135mm lingered as a popular focal length.  And then someone
at Pentax felt a need to revive some less popular focal lengths, and
we got 120mm and 150mm Takumars and Pentaxes.

regards, Anthony

"Of what use is lens and light
 to those who lack in mind and sight"
(Anon)




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PESO: Hidden Idol

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15119618&size=md

Comments and criticisms are invited

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Re: Juan Buhler - Hanoi, 2011

[Matthew Hunt]

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> Juan Buhler's latest photo from Hanoi is just so marvelous I had to share it 
> ...
>
>  http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/?p=2851

I've subscribed to Juan's RSS feed, in the assumption that it will
reduce my penance in the afterlife.

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PESO: Cat picture for World Pentax Day, and more

[Matthew Hunt]

Admittedly, I took it with my Tamron 70-300, because I wanted an easy
lens to carry when I went out in the snow to bring in the mail. Taken
at 300mm, the DA* 300/4 would have served better.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/6820400769//lightbox/

On the same walk, at 200 mm:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/6819090641//lightbox/

Friday was a nice day for shadows and light in the house:

http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/2012/02/water-light-and-shadow.html

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Re: Juan Buhler - Hanoi, 2011

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 2/5/2012 22:12, Juan Buhler wrote:

Wow.

Thanks all, and thanks Godfrey for that post.

Bob had the chance to kill me when we met for a delightful afternoon
in London late in 2004. He didn't take it, and I don't think my photos
got that much better, so I'll assume he's bluffing :)

It's always really interesting to see which of my photos people like.
The one that started this post... I thought it was an ok frame, but I
didn't feel like it was specially good or anything. Makes me think
that I probably should have someone else edit my photos. Also makes me
think that chances are I have no idea what I'm doing.


Sorry - we regret to inform you that you DO know what you are doing :-)


Thanks all though, this thread made my day :)

j

I picked it up late but with equal enthusiasm. Just keep doing what 
you're doing , please


Best,
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Re: PESO 19

[Matthew Hunt]

I also like the original photo the best. I'd prefer that it had more
depth of field, so that the edge of the door were sharper, but I like
it a lot.

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Not sure why either, but I like the original too. Not a great photo, but 
> there's something I like about it. The other all-black ones don't work so 
> much for me though.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Larry Colen 
> Sent: February 5, 2012 2/5/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO 19
>
>
>
> On 2/5/2012 7:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> Ummm... it says "nineteen".  Doesn't do any more for me in any of its 
>> incarnations.  Sorry.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.  There's something about the original photo
> that I liked, but intellectually, I have no idea why.
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Re: PESO 19

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Not sure why either, but I like the original too. Not a great photo, but 
there's something I like about it. The other all-black ones don't work so much 
for me though.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Larry Colen 
Sent: February 5, 2012 2/5/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO 19



On 2/5/2012 7:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> Ummm... it says "nineteen".  Doesn't do any more for me in any of its 
> incarnations.  Sorry.

Thanks for the feedback.  There's something about the original photo 
that I liked, but intellectually, I have no idea why.


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Re: PESO 19

[Larry Colen]

On 2/5/2012 7:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Ummm... it says "nineteen".  Doesn't do any more for me in any of its 
incarnations.  Sorry.


Thanks for the feedback.  There's something about the original photo 
that I liked, but intellectually, I have no idea why.



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Re: PESO 19

[Rick Womer]

Ummm... it says "nineteen".  Doesn't do any more for me in any of its 
incarnations.  Sorry.

Rick

 
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Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2012 5:27 PM
Subject: PESO 19

Last night, before my photo walk, I used my GPS and geotagged some photos 
showing how to find Studio Gracia, where Friday Night Blues is held.  The goal 
was to show some landmarks off of 8th, and also have the map available.
I think I actually like this one of the door as a photo, not just 
documentation, though I'm not sure whether it's subtle, or bland.
Comments appreciated:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6819169805/lightbox/


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Re: OT PESO - Moore River

[Rick Womer]

I should say not!

Those light spheres seem to be following you around...

Rick
 
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Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: OT PESO - Moore River

G'day All,

I had a short weekend away with friends. Between drinks we somehow
managed to get out & take some photos.

Here's one that doesn't suck too much:



Enjoy.

Cheers,

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PESO - Shameless Plug

[Rick Womer]

Fire plug, that is.  In Center City Philly last week:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15117216&size=lg


(K-7, FA 24-90)

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Re: Juan Buhler - Hanoi, 2011

[Juan Buhler]

Wow.

Thanks all, and thanks Godfrey for that post.

Bob had the chance to kill me when we met for a delightful afternoon
in London late in 2004. He didn't take it, and I don't think my photos
got that much better, so I'll assume he's bluffing :)

It's always really interesting to see which of my photos people like.
The one that started this post... I thought it was an ok frame, but I
didn't feel like it was specially good or anything. Makes me think
that I probably should have someone else edit my photos. Also makes me
think that chances are I have no idea what I'm doing.

Thanks all though, this thread made my day :)

j

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Re: Light painting

[Larry Colen]

On 2/5/2012 6:28 PM, David Savage wrote:



I personally use an LED Lenser that runs off 4 AAA&  is crazy bright.

Are you looking at writing onto objects?


Exactly.  At first, probably onto the trunks of the redwoods in my back 
yard.

My green laser pointer is almost perfect, except that the beam is too small.


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RE: GESO: Fog and public service

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Well you can stay inside, but then you'd miss out on the opportunity to take 
cool shots like that.

;-)

Well done!

cheers,
frank


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From: Tim Bray 
Sent: February 5, 2012 2/5/12
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Subject: GESO: Fog and public service

If you have a camera, you can't stay inside when it's foggy out:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/02/05/Freezing-fog

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RE: PAW109 - Tiles

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

How do you do it?

Cheers,
frank 

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From: DagT 
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Subject: PAW109 - Tiles

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA*16-50mm@28mm, 1/20s, f/2.8, ISO100.

DagT
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Re: K-01 is here...

[Larry Colen]

On 2/5/2012 6:44 PM, John Francis wrote:


To drag this thread vaguely back on topic, and to provide at least
a modicum of support for my claims of some knowledge in this area,
I offer this photograph (albeit using the Olympus, not a  Pentax:

 http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Marmalade.jpg


Here's some background music for the photo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRbZJXjWIA

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RE: OT PESO - Moore River

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Awesome!

cheers,
frank

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From: David Savage 
Sent: February 5, 2012 2/5/12
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Subject: OT PESO - Moore River

G'day All,

I had a short weekend away with friends. Between drinks we somehow
managed to get out & take some photos.

Here's one that doesn't suck too much:



Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO - Sima and Ray

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I agree with Ann. Great shot!

Cheers,
frank

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From: Ann Sanfedele 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Sima and Ray

Great shot!

ann

On 2/4/2012 15:27, AlunFoto wrote:
> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/sima-and-ray.html
>
> Shot in 2009, while visiting Mike Wilson and family.
>
> Jostein
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Re: PESO - Happy

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Thanks, Dave, and thanks to everyone else who commented. She was quite a 
character!

cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Happy

Happy indeed. Good one

Dave

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:23 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> She told (not asked) me to take her picture:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/02/happy.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: The Dog Walkers

[Rick Womer]

Not silly at all.  The FA 24-90 was my favorite lens on my (P)Z-1p, and it 
still spends lots of time on my K-7.

Rick
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
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Subject: The Dog Walkers

I submit this photo not so much as art but as a lens test. I recently
bought a SMC Pentax FA 35-80 off Amazon $40 shipped. Looked to be new
in the box. I took it for a test walk Thurs. I wasn't expecting much
but I have been pleasantly surprised. This zoom range seems to be on
everyone's walk-around lens list. I think I have found mine. Putting
this on my K-5 seems a little silly but here's the result.

These ladies happily agreed to my request for a photo and posed
themselves. The only issues I have otherwise is terrible lens flare as
it has no hood. I have ordered a couple of lens hoods to see if one
helps.

Comments?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/6818580139/

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Re: PESO - Wesley

[David Savage]

That really is a rather lovely portrait.

Nice work mate.

DS

On 6 February 2012 10:14, frank theriault  wrote:
> Funny day yesterday:  I didn't set out to take "street portraits" but
> that's the way it worked out.  About an hour after I took "Happy", I
> bumped into Wesley.  He needed $13 to stay at a men's shelter, and
> after we chatted for a few minutes, I gave him a few bucks.  Only then
> did he ask if I wanted to take a photo, and he seemed genuinely
> pleased that I did.  Not technically perfect (the focus is off a tad -
> one of us must have moved), I still like the gentleness in his eyes:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/02/wesley.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: K-01 is here...

[John Francis]

To drag this thread vaguely back on topic, and to provide at least
a modicum of support for my claims of some knowledge in this area,
I offer this photograph (albeit using the Olympus, not a  Pentax:

http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Marmalade.jpg

[As you may surmise, I *do* like marmalade. But I'd be prepared to
believe that the Kumquat marmalade mentioned by a different poster
is better than any of the varieties I have in the cupboard; I have
made my own Kumquat marmalade in the past, and found it excellent]


On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 04:12:59PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
> The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly
> impressive.
> 
> On 2/5/2012 4:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
> >On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
> >>>
> >>I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
> >
> >Hardly.
> >
> >It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
> >the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
> >the American publc by the likes of Smuckers), but it's by no
> >means the best that is available.
> >
> >Duerr have a couple of reasonable varieties (their Manchester
> >marmalade, for example, is what Golden Shred is trying to be,
> >while their 1881 Original is similar to Cooper's Oxford).
> >Then there's the stuff the Scandinavian's produce; I'm quite
> >partial to Elki's Orange fruit spread from their Scandinavian
> >Delights line - minimally processed, and extremely tasty.
> >
> >
> 
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Re: K-01 is here...

[Anthony Farr]

On 4 February 2012 04:11, steve harley  wrote:
>
> i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the rest
> designed to fail after a few years; almost all the ones built to last are
> 40-50 years old; someone gave me a KitchenAid toaster with a pretty flexible
> functional design, so i use it, waiting for it to burn out, or the buttons
> sealed under flexible plastic to crack; my old purely mechanical heavy
> chromed steel toaster will go back in service as soon as it is needed; its
> only flaw is it doesn't fit Bagels, but i have a 40-year-old toaster oven
> that will handle them
>
>

So, I suppose you ~wouldn't~ appreciate a Talkie Toaster:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec

regards, Anthony

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    to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: Light painting

[David Savage]

I personally use an LED Lenser that runs off 4 AAA & is crazy bright.

Are you looking at writing onto objects?


On 6 February 2012 09:27, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I've got an idea for some photos that I'd like to do.
> In short, light painting some Japanese calligraphy.
> To do this, I need a flashlight with a fairly bright, fairly tight beam,
> with a non-locking push-to-close switch.
>
> If need be, I can probably get the beam I need using a fairly bright light
> and some sort of a snoot on the beam, but all of the flashlights I seem to
> have these days have push on / push off switches.
> It seemed that it used to be that all flashlights had the type of switch I'm
> looking for so that you could send morse code or something.
>
> Anybody have suggestions on where to find a suitable flashlight for what I
> need, preferably under $20?  Or am I looking at getting creative with a
> flashlight and a switch from Radio Shack?
>
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Re: PESO - Wesley

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice portrait, Frank, with a lot of character.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:14 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Funny day yesterday:  I didn't set out to take "street portraits" but
> that's the way it worked out.  About an hour after I took "Happy", I
> bumped into Wesley.  He needed $13 to stay at a men's shelter, and
> after we chatted for a few minutes, I gave him a few bucks.  Only then
> did he ask if I wanted to take a photo, and he seemed genuinely
> pleased that I did.  Not technically perfect (the focus is off a tad -
> one of us must have moved), I still like the gentleness in his eyes:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/02/wesley.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: Light painting

[Stan Halpin]

I don't know if the light would be strong enough, bright enough for what you 
need, but I have a couple of different small LED lights powered by a single AA 
or a couple of buttons. Each has a twist-to-light mechanism, and when you are 
just short of screwed-in/turned-on, a push on the button at the base of the 
barrel establishes contact and the light illuminates as long as the button is 
held down.
Try looking at something like that rather than a real full-size flashlight . . .

stan

On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> I've got an idea for some photos that I'd like to do.
> In short, light painting some Japanese calligraphy.
> To do this, I need a flashlight with a fairly bright, fairly tight beam, with 
> a non-locking push-to-close switch.
> 
> If need be, I can probably get the beam I need using a fairly bright light 
> and some sort of a snoot on the beam, but all of the flashlights I seem to 
> have these days have push on / push off switches.
> It seemed that it used to be that all flashlights had the type of switch I'm 
> looking for so that you could send morse code or something.
> 
> Anybody have suggestions on where to find a suitable flashlight for what I 
> need, preferably under $20?  Or am I looking at getting creative with a 
> flashlight and a switch from Radio Shack?
> 
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PESO - Wesley

[frank theriault]

Funny day yesterday:  I didn't set out to take "street portraits" but
that's the way it worked out.  About an hour after I took "Happy", I
bumped into Wesley.  He needed $13 to stay at a men's shelter, and
after we chatted for a few minutes, I gave him a few bucks.  Only then
did he ask if I wanted to take a photo, and he seemed genuinely
pleased that I did.  Not technically perfect (the focus is off a tad -
one of us must have moved), I still like the gentleness in his eyes:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/02/wesley.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Re: OT: Nashville flea market

[Anthony Farr]

On 6 February 2012 07:08, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> The 150mm was not a popular focal length, (more expensive a 135, which
> everyone and his brother just had to have and an odd icky focal length),
>

Back in the dawn of photography lenses were simpler beasts and cameras
all used plates or sheets of glass, copper, tin or paper, and later on
film.  Many sizes were popular for various uses, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_format#Single_image

It followed that many different lens focal lengths were required for
each format to have a normal lens that was the best natural performer
for that image size.  To shoot longer or wider a photographer simply
fitted his camera with the normal lens of a larger or smaller camera.
Wide-angle shooting was a problem, because to make a smaller camera's
normal lens work well on a larger camera it needed to be stopped down
considerable, and still wasn't very good.  Eventually the lens
designers got better at their craft and we got decent wide angle
lenses as well as long focus and portrait lenses that were specialized
to their tasks.

Which is all a long-winded way of saying that "odd icky focal
length(s)" are mostly the normal lenses of forgotten formats.  120mm
is the normal lens of a 3in x 4in camera.   135mm is the normal lens
of a quarter plate camera.   150mm is the normal lens of a postcard
camera.  135mm lingered as a popular focal length.  And then someone
at Pentax felt a need to revive some less popular focal lengths, and
we got 120mm and 150mm Takumars and Pentaxes.

regards, Anthony

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Re: K-01 is here...

[John Francis]

Another successful campaign by the Toast Marketing Board!

On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:41:04PM -0500, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> The ultimate disrespect for the K-01:  it lost the battle for the
> hearts of the PDML to toast.


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Re: OT PESO - Moore River

[Paul Stenquist]

Love it. Brilliant colors, nice composition, great fun.
Paul
On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:52 PM, David Savage wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> I had a short weekend away with friends. Between drinks we somehow
> managed to get out & take some photos.
> 
> Here's one that doesn't suck too much:
> 
> 
> 
> Enjoy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
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Re: OT PESO - Moore River

[Larry Colen]

On 2/5/2012 4:52 PM, David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

I had a short weekend away with friends. Between drinks we somehow
managed to get out&  take some photos.

Here's one that doesn't suck too much:




Another great one.


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Light painting

[Larry Colen]

I've got an idea for some photos that I'd like to do.
In short, light painting some Japanese calligraphy.
To do this, I need a flashlight with a fairly bright, fairly tight beam, 
with a non-locking push-to-close switch.


If need be, I can probably get the beam I need using a fairly bright 
light and some sort of a snoot on the beam, but all of the flashlights I 
seem to have these days have push on / push off switches.
It seemed that it used to be that all flashlights had the type of switch 
I'm looking for so that you could send morse code or something.


Anybody have suggestions on where to find a suitable flashlight for what 
I need, preferably under $20?  Or am I looking at getting creative with 
a flashlight and a switch from Radio Shack?


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Re: Here's a list guaranteed to generate a lot of debate

[P. J. Alling]

My theory is that most of those contributing to that list were between 
20 and 25, the rest were pretty evenly divided between Nikon users, 
Canon users and Alzheimer patients...


On 1/29/2012 8:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

The 50 greatest cameras of all time:
http://www.photographymonthly.com/Magazine/2010/50-Greatest-Cameras-of-All-Time 



I've got a lot of issues with the list. For example the K20D, but not 
the spotmatic? Or, for that matter the K-5.


The Lumix DMC-LX3 and not the Argus C3, which was made for something 
like 35 years?






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OT PESO - Moore River

[David Savage]

G'day All,

I had a short weekend away with friends. Between drinks we somehow
managed to get out & take some photos.

Here's one that doesn't suck too much:



Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: K-01 is here...

[David Savage]

The hands down best is the kumquat stuff my mum makes.



On 6 February 2012 08:07, John Francis  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
>> >
>> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
>
> Hardly.
>
> It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
> the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
> the American publc by the likes of Smuckers), but it's by no
> means the best that is available.
>
> Duerr have a couple of reasonable varieties (their Manchester
> marmalade, for example, is what Golden Shred is trying to be,
> while their 1881 Original is similar to Cooper's Oxford).
> Then there's the stuff the Scandinavian's prodece; I'm quite
> partial to Elki's Orange fruit spread from their Scandinavian
> Delights line - minimally processed, and extremely tasty.

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Re: PESO - Spur

[P. J. Alling]

The French rested easy because they believed their own propaganda.

On 1/30/2012 5:59 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Fiddle-faddle! The French had the utmost confidence in the Maginot Line. They 
knew that the Germans would not even ~try~ to invade. Why the only entrance 
into France was through the Benelux Countries, and they were friends. The 
Germans were to stupid to go through Belgium.

No, the French rested easy in those idyllic pre-war years...

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Bob W
Sent: January 30, 2012 1/30/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail

She's a French film teacher, so naturally she invokes Voltaire.

In fact, as the spectator watching the film from our viewpoint, you know
what happened in the war so you can see that the trains prefigured events to
come. But bear in mind that trains have run between Germany and France
several times before WWII, and also that many of the French pre-war films
were about the coming war, which of course many people knew was going to
happen, and had a pretty good idea of the likely outcome for France. La
Regle du jeu (Renoir) is the classic example.

B





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Re: K-01 is here...

[Steven Desjardins]

The ultimate disrespect for the K-01:  it lost the battle for the
hearts of the PDML to toast.

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>
>
> On 2/5/2012 4:07 PM, John Francis wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:


>>> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
>>
>>
>> Hardly.
>>
>> It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
>> the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
>> the American publc by the likes of Smuckers), but it's by no
>> means the best that is available.
>>
>> Duerr have a couple of reasonable varieties (their Manchester
>> marmalade, for example, is what Golden Shred is trying to be,
>> while their 1881 Original is similar to Cooper's Oxford).
>> Then there's the stuff the Scandinavian's prodece; I'm quite
>> partial to Elki's Orange fruit spread from their Scandinavian
>> Delights line - minimally processed, and extremely tasty.
>>
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Re: PESO - Sima and Ray

[Ann Sanfedele]

Great shot!

ann

On 2/4/2012 15:27, AlunFoto wrote:

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/sima-and-ray.html

Shot in 2009, while visiting Mike Wilson and family.

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Re: K-01 is here...

[Larry Colen]

The breadth and depth of the arcane pedantry on this list is truly 
impressive.


On 2/5/2012 4:07 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:



I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .


Hardly.

It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
the American publc by the likes of Smuckers), but it's by no
means the best that is available.

Duerr have a couple of reasonable varieties (their Manchester
marmalade, for example, is what Golden Shred is trying to be,
while their 1881 Original is similar to Cooper's Oxford).
Then there's the stuff the Scandinavian's prodece; I'm quite
partial to Elki's Orange fruit spread from their Scandinavian
Delights line - minimally processed, and extremely tasty.




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Re: K-01 is here...

[Paul Stenquist]

Amazon has both Duerr's and Elki's orange marmalade. 

On Feb 5, 2012, at 7:07 PM, John Francis wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
>>> 
>> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .
> 
> Hardly.
> 
> It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
> the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
> the American publc by the likes of Smuckers), but it's by no
> means the best that is available.
> 
> Duerr have a couple of reasonable varieties (their Manchester
> marmalade, for example, is what Golden Shred is trying to be,
> while their 1881 Original is similar to Cooper's Oxford).
> Then there's the stuff the Scandinavian's prodece; I'm quite
> partial to Elki's Orange fruit spread from their Scandinavian
> Delights line - minimally processed, and extremely tasty.
> 
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Re: K-01 is here...

[John Francis]

On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 07:28:32PM -, Bob W wrote:
> > 
> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers . . .

Hardly.

It's not bad (and certainly a cut above Golden Shred, let alone
the high-fructose corn-syrup laden abominations perpetrated on
the American publc by the likes of Smuckers), but it's by no
means the best that is available.

Duerr have a couple of reasonable varieties (their Manchester
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Re: PESO - Sima and Ray

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I have no problem seeing the image.
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:03 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> On 2/5/2012 10:09 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>
>> On 04/02/2012 21:27, AlunFoto wrote:
>>>
>>> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/sima-and-ray.html
>>>
>>> Shot in 2009, while visiting Mike Wilson and family.
>>
>>
>> He certainly had a way with birds.  Much as you have a way with cameras,
>> unlike me. I don't know what this is focused on.
>> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/IMGP6821.jpg
>>
>>
> I'm getting the message, "This page cannot be displayed"  so obviously it's
> focused on nothing.
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Re: February PUG - The Train is about to Leave the Station

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Will I get coal in my stocking?
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>
>> Give him a kick in the caboose.
>
>
>
> Do that and I'm likely to go quite loco.  I might even tender my
> resignation
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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>
>
>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:14 PM, P. J. Alling 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/4/2012 12:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



 On 2/3/2012 22:54, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>
> G'day all
>
> Last call for the February PUG. I'll be closing submissions on Monday.
>
> So far we have 17 themed submissions and one for the open gallery.
>
>
> +++
>
> Theme: Railway



 So... So you are keeping track?

 ann
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps he should be making tracks...
>>>

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Re: PAW109 - Tiles

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Interesting.  The hand really changes everything in this fine image.
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 5:29 PM, DagT  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
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Re: PESO[s] Railroad related PUG rejects

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A little irony, perhaps, but a bit rusty as well.
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:29 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> *More than a little irony in that, Whot?

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Re: PESO[s] Railroad related PUG rejects

[Bob Sullivan]

PJ,
I especially like how the steam locomotive's wheel show.  This is
always hard to show being black on black.  Being old and faded
probably helps, but you still did a fine job.
The 1890's swing bridge looks good.  We have one of similar vintage in
Rock Island, Illinois.  I'd suggest including some closer-up photos of
the ironwork.  I'm always inpressed by the contrast between old and
new bridgework.  The old bridgework is like lace - holy with rivits
holding it all together.  The new bridgework is more like extruded
plastic in special shapes, no economy in the use of steel.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> No the PUG isn't rejecting submissions, at least not that I know of, no
> these are images I rejected, but still thought I'd show just because...
>
> I haven't been all that productive lately, (especially in creating worthy
> images), so I went back to mine a few from when I was still shooting
> primarily with the *ist-D and Ds.  I've shown this one as a B&W rendering,
> but it looks pretty good in color.  Some people complained that I cut off
> the bottoms of it's wheels but you know it's not going anywhere...
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20disablediir.html
>
> Equipment *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0
>
> The second hasn't been shown before AFAICR.  This 1890s vintage swing bridge
> is slated to be replace with a new 40 year* bridge sometime in the next few
> years.  Unless the US Federal Government runs out of money... (Hey wait a
> minute), oh well, It will still be replaced.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20rrbridgectriver.html
>
> Equipment *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f4.0~5.6
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
> *More than a little irony in that, Whot?
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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

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On Feb 5, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Feb 5, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> I've got a spyder II express.  It does the job good enough for me.
>> To calibrate both displays with it, there are things you can do to convince 
>> the system that screen 2 is actually screen 1, calibrate that screen, then 
>> switch back.
> 
> I wonder if there's any way of doing that with an iMac? The computer knows 
> damn well which screen is screen 1.

Yes, there is. I did it.  It's not so much screen 1 and 2, as which one is the 
main screen, defined by which one has the menu bar at the top.

My second screen is a half dead View Sonic CRT, so it's not worth a lot of 
effort to keep recalibrating it, because I don't do any critical work on it 
anyways, so I don't remember the exact incantation I used.

>> 
>> I bought it because at the time I was running Linux and at the time that was 
>> the only one I could find software for that would work on Linux. I bought it 
>> and in conversations with them, found out that they were actively hostile to 
>> Linux.  I guess they make too much money by selling both a crippled version 
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>> software.
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:
>> 
>>> So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
>>> what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.  Expecially
>>> since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
>>> worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
>>> it worth while?  Thanks
>>> 
>>> -Adam
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Re: Test

[P. J. Alling]

On 1/29/2012 12:11 PM, Jack Davis wrote

A for technique, F for content.

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PAW109 - Tiles

[DagT]

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA*16-50mm@28mm, 1/20s, f/2.8, ISO100.

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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

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On Feb 5, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> I've got a spyder II express.  It does the job good enough for me.
> To calibrate both displays with it, there are things you can do to convince 
> the system that screen 2 is actually screen 1, calibrate that screen, then 
> switch back.

I wonder if there's any way of doing that with an iMac? The computer knows damn 
well which screen is screen 1.
> 
> I bought it because at the time I was running Linux and at the time that was 
> the only one I could find software for that would work on Linux. I bought it 
> and in conversations with them, found out that they were actively hostile to 
> Linux.  I guess they make too much money by selling both a crippled version 
> of their software and charging more for a functional version of their 
> software.
> 
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:
> 
>> So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
>> what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.  Expecially
>> since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
>> worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
>> it worth while?  Thanks
>> 
>> -Adam
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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Igor Roshchin]

Hi Adam,

Last month I posted my summary in a similar search:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2012-January/299378.html

Since that, - a brand new Spyder 4 appeared on the market at $169,
and Xrite ColorMunki Display (CMUNDIS) went up in price to the same
$169.

HTH,

Igor


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> So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
> what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.  Expecially
> since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
> worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
> it worth while?  Thanks



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Re: February PUG - The Train is about to Leave the Station

[Brian Walters]

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


Give him a kick in the caboose.



Do that and I'm likely to go quite loco.  I might even tender my  
resignation



Cheers

Brian

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Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:14 PM, P. J. Alling  
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On 2/4/2012 12:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



On 2/3/2012 22:54, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

Last call for the February PUG. I'll be closing submissions on Monday.

So far we have 17 themed submissions and one for the open gallery.


+++

Theme: Railway



So... So you are keeping track?

ann



Perhaps he should be making tracks...





Submit here:

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Re: PESO - Sima and Ray

[P. J. Alling]

On 2/5/2012 10:09 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 04/02/2012 21:27, AlunFoto wrote:

http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/02/sima-and-ray.html

Shot in 2009, while visiting Mike Wilson and family.


He certainly had a way with birds.  Much as you have a way with 
cameras, unlike me. I don't know what this is focused on.

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/IMGP6821.jpg


I'm getting the message, "This page cannot be displayed"  so obviously 
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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Bruce Walker]

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Doug Franklin  wrote:
>
> On 2012-02-05 10:03, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>>
>> Spyder3 Pro
>
> Ditto.

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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Larry Colen]

I've got a spyder II express.  It does the job good enough for me.
To calibrate both displays with it, there are things you can do to convince the 
system that screen 2 is actually screen 1, calibrate that screen, then switch 
back.

I bought it because at the time I was running Linux and at the time that was 
the only one I could find software for that would work on Linux. I bought it 
and in conversations with them, found out that they were actively hostile to 
Linux.  I guess they make too much money by selling both a crippled version of 
their software and charging more for a functional version of their software.

On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Adam Montoya wrote:

> So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
> what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.  Expecially
> since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
> worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
> it worth while?  Thanks
> 
> -Adam
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Re: OT - Life of a wedding photographer

[P. J. Alling]

If she's self employed SS tax will be about 7K right there.  She may not 
have a tax accountant.  Lots of people don't and she could be in a high 
tax state, which reduces your federal taxes but you can pay more to the 
state. Then there's things like this.  Connecticut for example 
photographers are responsible for collecting sales tax on their 
services.  Connecticut's a small place and you're competing with 
photographers from all neighboring states who may or may not have to 
worry about collecting sales tax.  You can't offset that against your 
earnings, that's a cost to the customer, which goes into the final 
package price.  She might even be including sales taxes on her 
materials, it's often not worth it to get a tax number for resale items, 
it causes the taxing authority to take a closer look at you which can 
lead to all kinds of fun.  I can easily see paying that much in Taxes.  
Now her equipment costs seem a bit high.  But then again I'm cheap.


On 1/28/2012 2:59 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 02:24:11PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote:

She's also entering some of her living expenses, which is a bit odd . . .

More than simply "a bit odd".

She assigns costs for her house and car over the full year, rather
than for just the four months she claims is her working season.
She also claims a tax bill of $15,000 on income of $50,000, which
suggests she needs a better tax attorney - many of the charges
detailed (and already counted in the balance sheet) can be offset
against taxable income, which should reduce that total considerably.

I'm not saying that she's charging too much - just that the figures
presented to "justify" that charge don't hold water.  Far better to
simply say "I charge that much because that's a fair market price for
what I offer - if you can find a deal you like better, take it".

[Personally, I wouldn't want to shoot weddings as a way of earning
money.  I've done a couple of low-key events for friends&  family,
but never as principal photographer at a formal wedding]




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Re: OT: Nashville flea market

[P. J. Alling]

The 150mm was not a popular focal length, (more expensive a 135, which 
everyone and his brother just had to have and an odd icky focal length), 
and might even  be considered a collectors item if it's in good enough 
shape.  If it's as sharp as it's M42 mount predecessor, (I have a Super 
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worth the money optically.


On 1/28/2012 4:43 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:

We went to the flea market this morning and I ended up getting a SMC
Pentax-M 1:3.5 150mm and a Rikenon P 1:2 50mm for $15 apiece and the fella
through in a few filters for free. I have done some experimenting with the
Rikenon but I haven't had a chance to play around with the 150mm.

I am hoping it was a good deal but not for certain until I can get a chance
to play around with them more but I have other pressing matters to get
finished.

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Re: February PUG - The Train is about to Leave the Station

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Give him a kick in the caboose.
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On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 1:14 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> On 2/4/2012 12:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2/3/2012 22:54, Brian Walters wrote:
>>>
>>> G'day all
>>>
>>> Last call for the February PUG. I'll be closing submissions on Monday.
>>>
>>> So far we have 17 themed submissions and one for the open gallery.
>>>
>>>
>>> +++
>>>
>>> Theme: Railway
>>
>>
>> So... So you are keeping track?
>>
>> ann
>
>
> Perhaps he should be making tracks...
>
>>
>>>
>>> Submit here:
>>>
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>>
>>>
>>> The main requirements are:
>>>
>>> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
>>> * Max file size: 300k
>>> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
>>> lens used is Pentax.
>>> * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
>>> the image looks right in non colour-managed browsers.
>>>
>>> More detailed guidelines here:
>>>
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: PESO[s] Railroad related PUG rejects

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I like the image of the wheels very much.
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> No the PUG isn't rejecting submissions, at least not that I know of, no
> these are images I rejected, but still thought I'd show just because...
>
> I haven't been all that productive lately, (especially in creating worthy
> images), so I went back to mine a few from when I was still shooting
> primarily with the *ist-D and Ds.  I've shown this one as a B&W rendering,
> but it looks pretty good in color.  Some people complained that I cut off
> the bottoms of it's wheels but you know it's not going anywhere...
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20disablediir.html
>
> Equipment *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0
>
> The second hasn't been shown before AFAICR.  This 1890s vintage swing bridge
> is slated to be replace with a new 40 year* bridge sometime in the next few
> years.  Unless the US Federal Government runs out of money... (Hey wait a
> minute), oh well, It will still be replaced.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20rrbridgectriver.html
>
> Equipment *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f4.0~5.6
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>
> *More than a little irony in that, Whot?
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Re: K-01 is here...

[P. J. Alling]

For the English, caramelized bread, is like snow to the Eskimos.

On 2/5/2012 2:28 PM, Bob W wrote:

I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast


Very American. You're pretty much all wrong about toast. Here's the way it's
done in the civilised world.

When the toast is ready you put it in a rack so that it doesn't go soggy and
will be crisp when taken to the breakfast table and buttered.

Soldiers are for dipping into a soft boiled egg.

I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers and taking a jar when you
visit your French friends will ensure that they remain so. I was told this

at 14 by my French teacher just before I went to stay for 2 weeks near
Rheims with my pen-friend's family. It was true then and is true now.
Marmalade confuses the French, who call it confiture, which is the same word
that they use for jam, which is clearly very different from marmalade.
English confiture also amuses them endlessly because we put the word
'preservative' on the label. This means something entirely different in
French.

If you're eating your toast later in the day, perhaps after a wet, muddy and
cold walk in the countryside, then you must have it hot buttered, which is

to say you may butter it straight away, as you've described. But that is not
toast, it is hot buttered toast.

B


On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob W  wrote:

i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the

rest

designed

to fail after a few years; ...

Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working

just

fine. It's a cheap piece of tin crap but it just keeps on

toasting.

My butler and housekeeper take care of my toastage needs. I'm

informed there

is a 'kitchen' somewhere in the east wing.

Always cold when it gets to the table.  Don't stay at Bob's.


you should have said. Next time I'll get Mercedes or Juanita to warm

it up

for you in their special way.

B


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Re: K-01 is here...

[Bulent Celasun]

Oh Bob!
Thanks; you made my day :)

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2012/2/5 Bob W :
>>
>> I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
>> ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
>> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
>>
> Very American. You're pretty much all wrong about toast. Here's the way it's
> done in the civilised world.
>
> When the toast is ready you put it in a rack so that it doesn't go soggy and
> will be crisp when taken to the breakfast table and buttered.
>
> Soldiers are for dipping into a soft boiled egg.
>
> I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers and taking a jar when you
> visit your French friends will ensure that they remain so. I was told this
> at 14 by my French teacher just before I went to stay for 2 weeks near
> Rheims with my pen-friend's family. It was true then and is true now.
> Marmalade confuses the French, who call it confiture, which is the same word
> that they use for jam, which is clearly very different from marmalade.
> English confiture also amuses them endlessly because we put the word
> 'preservative' on the label. This means something entirely different in
> French.
>
> If you're eating your toast later in the day, perhaps after a wet, muddy and
> cold walk in the countryside, then you must have it hot buttered, which is
> to say you may butter it straight away, as you've described. But that is not
> toast, it is hot buttered toast.
>
> B
>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> >>  i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
>> >> rest
>> >> >>> designed
>> >>  to fail after a few years; ...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
>> >> >> bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
>> >> just
>> >> >> fine. It's a cheap piece of tin crap but it just keeps on
>> toasting.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > My butler and housekeeper take care of my toastage needs. I'm
>> >> informed there
>> >> > is a 'kitchen' somewhere in the east wing.
>> >>
>> >> Always cold when it gets to the table.  Don't stay at Bob's.
>> >>
>> >
>> > you should have said. Next time I'll get Mercedes or Juanita to warm
>> it up
>> > for you in their special way.
>> >
>> > B
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Re: A thought about tripods

[Bulent Celasun]

I like my tripods and try to carry one of them with me "whenever possible".
Still, there are times when I just leave the tripod at some place
(under a shade, on a rock, whatever) and walk only with my camera at
hand.
I know I can reach it for help if I need to; I do not feel guilty (!)
if I do not use the tripod at all on that occasion.

And, there are occasions (macros come to mind) where I "always" use a
tripod. And, I do macros rather frequently...

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RE: K-01 is here...

[Bob W]

> 
> I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
> ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast
> 
Very American. You're pretty much all wrong about toast. Here's the way it's
done in the civilised world.

When the toast is ready you put it in a rack so that it doesn't go soggy and
will be crisp when taken to the breakfast table and buttered.

Soldiers are for dipping into a soft boiled egg.

I dislike marmalade, but the best is Frank Coopers and taking a jar when you
visit your French friends will ensure that they remain so. I was told this
at 14 by my French teacher just before I went to stay for 2 weeks near
Rheims with my pen-friend's family. It was true then and is true now.
Marmalade confuses the French, who call it confiture, which is the same word
that they use for jam, which is clearly very different from marmalade.
English confiture also amuses them endlessly because we put the word
'preservative' on the label. This means something entirely different in
French.

If you're eating your toast later in the day, perhaps after a wet, muddy and
cold walk in the countryside, then you must have it hot buttered, which is
to say you may butter it straight away, as you've described. But that is not
toast, it is hot buttered toast.

B

> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> >>  i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
> >> rest
> >> >>> designed
> >>  to fail after a few years; ...
> >> >>
> >> >> Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
> >> >> bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
> >> just
> >> >> fine. It's a cheap piece of tin crap but it just keeps on
> toasting.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > My butler and housekeeper take care of my toastage needs. I'm
> >> informed there
> >> > is a 'kitchen' somewhere in the east wing.
> >>
> >> Always cold when it gets to the table.  Don't stay at Bob's.
> >>
> >
> > you should have said. Next time I'll get Mercedes or Juanita to warm
> it up
> > for you in their special way.
> >
> > B
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Re: You are not a photographer

[kwaller]

Immature and insecure people trying to define categories and rankings to
make themselves feel superior to the rest of us.


You mean I'm not ?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

Subject: RE: You are not a photographer



From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Doug Brewer

I think the point here, Stan, is not that she has a camera that costs
whatever,but the view that, to too many people, all you need to be a
photographer is a good camera.



it's just snobbery and self-aggrandisement. It's the same sort of thing as
"I'm a traveller, you're a tourist".

Immature and insecure people trying to define categories and rankings to
make themselves feel superior to the rest of us.

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Re: PESO - Happy

[kwaller]

Fantastic! With dental work like that she must be British.


Probably due to too much sugar

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

Subject: RE: PESO - Happy




She told (not asked) me to take her picture:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/02/happy.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank



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Re: K-01 is here...

[mike wilson]

On 05/02/2012 18:27, Bob W wrote:

i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the

rest

designed

to fail after a few years; ...


Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working

just

fine. It's a cheap piece of tin crap but it just keeps on toasting.



My butler and housekeeper take care of my toastage needs. I'm

informed there

is a 'kitchen' somewhere in the east wing.


Always cold when it gets to the table.  Don't stay at Bob's.



you should have said. Next time I'll get Mercedes or Juanita to warm it up
for you in their special way.


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Re: PESO[s] Railroad related PUG rejects

[Steven Desjardins]

I prefer the first one, but I like machinery shots.

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Well I have a slight preference for the close-up but they are both PUG
> worthy I think
>
> ann
>
>
> On 2/5/2012 13:29, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> No the PUG isn't rejecting submissions, at least not that I know of, no
>> these are images I rejected, but still thought I'd show just because...
>>
>> I haven't been all that productive lately, (especially in creating
>> worthy images), so I went back to mine a few from when I was still
>> shooting primarily with the *ist-D and Ds. I've shown this one as a B&W
>> rendering, but it looks pretty good in color. Some people complained
>> that I cut off the bottoms of it's wheels but you know it's not going
>> anywhere...
>>
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20disablediir.html
>>
>> Equipment *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0
>>
>> The second hasn't been shown before AFAICR. This 1890s vintage swing
>> bridge is slated to be replace with a new 40 year* bridge sometime in
>> the next few years. Unless the US Federal Government runs out of
>> money... (Hey wait a minute), oh well, It will still be replaced.
>>
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20rrbridgectriver.html
>>
>> Equipment *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f4.0~5.6
>>
>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>>
>> *More than a little irony in that, Whot?
>>
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Re: A thought about tripods

[kwaller]

I haven't found a tripod to help my composition all that much, but it
does make my pictures sharper because I'm not holding the camera.


I have.
It does indeed force you to slow down. Outdoor photog pros will advise to 
hand hold the camera & roughly compose the intended shot & then move the 
tripod into position to support the camera for that composition.


I've seen the tripod paralize some - they come upon a scene & immediately 
position the tripod  without ever getting a rough idea of the indended image 
thru the handheld camers.


Kenneth Waller
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From: "David Parsons" 

Subject: Re: A thought about tripods



I haven't found a tripod to help my composition all that much, but it
does make my pictures sharper because I'm not holding the camera.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
I wonder how much of the photographic benefit of using a tripod is from 
the camera being steadier, and how much of it is because using a tripod 
forces you to slow down and think a bit longer about the photograph.


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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[mike wilson]

On 05/02/2012 17:39, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I meant to say it's definitely NOT trending toward green. Agh.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


It appears to be spot on for the light on my monitor. It's definitely trending 
toward green. It might be a hair toward the blue and magenta side of things -- 
really just a hair -- but that would be right for the open shade light.

Paul
On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:22 AM, mike wilson wrote:


On 05/02/2012 06:27, Adam Montoya wrote:

So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.  Expecially
since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
it worth while?  Thanks


Funny - I was just about to post on this very subject.  Being extremely unhappy 
at recent reproductions of my drivel (they were being printed much redder than 
I was seeing on screen) I bought a Hueypro and calbrated (I think) my screen.  
It now has a decidedly green hue, compared to what I was used to.  This would 
generally be the direction I anticipated but I was not expecting such a 
noticable transformation. Maybe folks with known calibrated screens could look 
at my recent posting and tell me if there is anything clearly wrong with it.  
In the colour stakes - I know about all the other stuff, thanks

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/IMGP6821.jpg


Thanks.  It certainly looks better than it did before.

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Re: PESO[s] Railroad related PUG rejects

[Ann Sanfedele]

Well I have a slight preference for the close-up but they are both PUG 
worthy I think


ann

On 2/5/2012 13:29, P. J. Alling wrote:

No the PUG isn't rejecting submissions, at least not that I know of, no
these are images I rejected, but still thought I'd show just because...

I haven't been all that productive lately, (especially in creating
worthy images), so I went back to mine a few from when I was still
shooting primarily with the *ist-D and Ds. I've shown this one as a B&W
rendering, but it looks pretty good in color. Some people complained
that I cut off the bottoms of it's wheels but you know it's not going
anywhere...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20disablediir.html

Equipment *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

The second hasn't been shown before AFAICR. This 1890s vintage swing
bridge is slated to be replace with a new 40 year* bridge sometime in
the next few years. Unless the US Federal Government runs out of
money... (Hey wait a minute), oh well, It will still be replaced.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20rrbridgectriver.html

Equipment *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f4.0~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: Lens road map

[P. J. Alling]

Well, they make a 300mm f4.0 and the F 1.7x adapter is common enough, if 
you really want one.  The maximum aperture for a 400mm f4.5 with a 1.4x 
TC would be within about 1/3 stop of the afore mentioned combination and 
only 50mm shorter, as well as probably being quite a bit less 
expensive.  Most people seem to think I have nothing to complain about 
as far as image quality is concerned using even my ancient A*300 f4.0 
with the F1.7x.


On 2/3/2012 12:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

I'd secretly (my wife is listening) like to see a 400mm f/4 or 4.5 and a 
quality 1.4 T/C.

Jack ;-)



From: Paul Stenquist
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Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: Lens road map


On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


Been thinking more about this, and the long long telephoto doesn't
make a huge amount of sense to me on an APS-C camera. A 550mm lens?
That would be a 775mm (35mm equiv) on a crop camera. Anybody see a
huge demand for that?

I want one for my K-5. It would be perfect for shooting small birds.



Now a 550mm or 600mm lens on a full frame, would
be much more likely to be in at least some demand.

But even if a full-frame camera is introduced, there won't be enough market 
penetration to justify such a lens for a long time -- if ever.

The other thing is... Hoya stopped the publicizing of lens "road maps"
like this. But that doesn't mean that there wasn't one. And given the
short time that Ricoh has owned Pentax, it is likely to me that these
future lenses on the road map are lenses that were already in some
form of development at Hoya/Pentax.

While Hoya/Pentax didn't appear to be interested in FF cameras, it
seems crazy to me that they didn't have somebody at least doing R&D on
one. In fact, that would be good "window dressing" to showcase if you
were going to shop the company. ("look at the additional product lines
you can expand into"). I think the Marc Newson camera is another
example of Hoya/Pentax carry-over.

Add that to the comments in the earlier interview from the
Ricoh/Pentax exec. talking about the importance of a "full DSLR"
product line and I think the evidence is getting stronger for a FF
Pentax camera to be at least announced, very soon.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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GESO: Fog and public service

[Tim Bray]

If you have a camera, you can't stay inside when it's foggy out:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/02/05/Freezing-fog

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Re: K-01 is here...

[Tim Bray]

I once wrote an essay on Toast, and it may be the most popular thing I
ever published on my blog. Read the comments:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/02/10/On-Toast

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>>  i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
>> rest
>> >>> designed
>>  to fail after a few years; ...
>> >>
>> >> Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
>> >> bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
>> just
>> >> fine. It's a cheap piece of tin crap but it just keeps on toasting.
>> >>
>> >
>> > My butler and housekeeper take care of my toastage needs. I'm
>> informed there
>> > is a 'kitchen' somewhere in the east wing.
>>
>> Always cold when it gets to the table.  Don't stay at Bob's.
>>
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> you should have said. Next time I'll get Mercedes or Juanita to warm it up
> for you in their special way.
>
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Re: Lens road map

[Þráinn Vigfússon]

I second this. The 550mm lens would be perfect for skittish birds, 
especially when there is little tree cover for getting closer. If it 
will be f5.6, as some people have guessed, it might even be affordable 
(or at least affordable enough that my wife won't beat me over the head 
with it when I bring it home, since that would cause focus problems due 
to lens misalignement).


I have an old Sigma 400mm F5.6 that has long since stopped autofocusing 
and I've been waiting for a lens such as this one for a couple of years.


Thrainn

Þann 3.2.2012 17:31, skrifaði Paul Stenquist:

On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


Been thinking more about this, and the long long telephoto doesn't
make a huge amount of sense to me on an APS-C camera. A 550mm lens?
That would be a 775mm (35mm equiv) on a crop camera. Anybody see a
huge demand for that?

I want one for my K-5. It would be perfect for shooting small birds.








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PESO[s] Railroad related PUG rejects

[P. J. Alling]

No the PUG isn't rejecting submissions, at least not that I know of, no 
these are images I rejected, but still thought I'd show just because...


I haven't been all that productive lately, (especially in creating 
worthy images), so I went back to mine a few from when I was still 
shooting primarily with the *ist-D and Ds.  I've shown this one as a B&W 
rendering, but it looks pretty good in color.  Some people complained 
that I cut off the bottoms of it's wheels but you know it's not going 
anywhere...


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20disablediir.html

Equipment *ist-Ds/w smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

The second hasn't been shown before AFAICR.  This 1890s vintage swing 
bridge is slated to be replace with a new 40 year* bridge sometime in 
the next few years.  Unless the US Federal Government runs out of 
money... (Hey wait a minute), oh well, It will still be replaced.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20rrbridgectriver.html

Equipment *ist-D/w smc Pentax FA 28-200mm f4.0~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

*More than a little irony in that, Whot?

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Re: PESO - Sima and Ray

[Tim Øsleby]

Great catch Jostein.
I like that we can see one of the guys eyes.

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Re: February PUG - The Train is about to Leave the Station

[P. J. Alling]

On 2/4/2012 12:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


On 2/3/2012 22:54, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Last call for the February PUG. I'll be closing submissions on Monday.

So far we have 17 themed submissions and one for the open gallery.


+++

Theme: Railway


So... So you are keeping track?

ann


Perhaps he should be making tracks...





Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
the image looks right in non colour-managed browsers.

More detailed guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html








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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Doug Franklin]

On 2012-02-05 10:03, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Spyder3 Pro


Ditto.

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Re: HDR

[Matthew Hunt]

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Jens  wrote:

> I tried out the in camera HDR today.
> The K-5 offers a number of Auto-HDR features in this area.
> In this exapmle I used the highest equalisation feature:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629185875729/
>
> Please feel free to comment.
> Which software should I use for "out off camera HDR"?

The potential is certainly there, but I agree with Paul that the halos
distract from the result.

When I've combined multiple exposures, instead of producing an HDR
image and tone-mapping, I've used exposure fusion. This is implemented
in software like enfuse (part of the hugin panorama software) and
tufuse . I've mostly used tufuse,
which is command-line software. There is a plugin to integrate enfuse
with Lightroom, which probably makes things easier; I haven't tried it
.

I've found the results from exposure fusion to look quite natural,
which is my intent with this sort of thing:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2588764510/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/3478746032/lightbox/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2930696962/lightbox/

All that said, I don't have any experience with good HDR software like
Photomatix or Photoshop. I think people are producing natural-looking
results with those packages as well. When I first became interested in
HDR, I played around with free software like qtpfsgui
 and didn't care for the results.

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RE: K-01 is here...

[Bob W]

>  i despise most toasters; there are only a few worth having, the
> rest
> >>> designed
>  to fail after a few years; ...
> >>
> >> Hmm. I have a simple KitchenAid toaster with wide slots to allow
> >> bagels to be toasted that I bought in 1985 for $20. Still working
> just
> >> fine. It's a cheap piece of tin crap but it just keeps on toasting.
> >>
> >
> > My butler and housekeeper take care of my toastage needs. I'm
> informed there
> > is a 'kitchen' somewhere in the east wing.
> 
> Always cold when it gets to the table.  Don't stay at Bob's.
> 

you should have said. Next time I'll get Mercedes or Juanita to warm it up
for you in their special way.

B


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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Paul Sorenson]

Looks good on my monitor. - to get rid of red, you'd want to move toward 
cyan.


-p

On 2/5/2012 9:22 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 05/02/2012 06:27, Adam Montoya wrote:

So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak. Expecially
since I now have two monitors running. What cabibration tools are
worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
it worth while? Thanks


Funny - I was just about to post on this very subject. Being extremely
unhappy at recent reproductions of my drivel (they were being printed
much redder than I was seeing on screen) I bought a Hueypro and
calbrated (I think) my screen. It now has a decidedly green hue,
compared to what I was used to. This would generally be the direction I
anticipated but I was not expecting such a noticable transformation.
Maybe folks with known calibrated screens could look at my recent
posting and tell me if there is anything clearly wrong with it. In the
colour stakes - I know about all the other stuff, thanks

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/temp/IMGP6821.jpg


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Re: HDR

[Jack Davis]

Have no basis for advising anything about HDR programs, but I have tried the 
in-camera K5 HDR. Can foresee possible future use.
Note limb haloing/fringing against the sky. Possibly the result of pushing the 
contrast. (?)

Jack



From: Jens 
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Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 8:31 AM
Subject: HDR

Hi list.
I tried out the in camera HDR today.
The K-5 offers a number of Auto-HDR features in this area.
In this exapmle I used the highest equalisation feature:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629185875729/

Please feel free to comment.
Which software should I use for "out off camera HDR"?

Regards
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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Paul Stenquist]

I meant to say it's definitely NOT trending toward green. Agh.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> It appears to be spot on for the light on my monitor. It's definitely 
> trending toward green. It might be a hair toward the blue and magenta side of 
> things -- really just a hair -- but that would be right for the open shade 
> light.
> 
> Paul
> On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:22 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> 
>> On 05/02/2012 06:27, Adam Montoya wrote:
>>> So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
>>> what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.  Expecially
>>> since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
>>> worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
>>> it worth while?  Thanks
>> 
>> Funny - I was just about to post on this very subject.  Being extremely 
>> unhappy at recent reproductions of my drivel (they were being printed much 
>> redder than I was seeing on screen) I bought a Hueypro and calbrated (I 
>> think) my screen.  It now has a decidedly green hue, compared to what I was 
>> used to.  This would generally be the direction I anticipated but I was not 
>> expecting such a noticable transformation. Maybe folks with known calibrated 
>> screens could look at my recent posting and tell me if there is anything 
>> clearly wrong with it.  In the colour stakes - I know about all the other 
>> stuff, thanks
>> 
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Re: HDR

[Paul Stenquist]

Too much. You're getting a lot of halo effect where darks meet lights. You 
could fix that by cloning on a pixel level, but that's a lot of work.
Paul
On Feb 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Jens wrote:

> Hi list.
> I tried out the in camera HDR today.
> The K-5 offers a number of Auto-HDR features in this area.
> In this exapmle I used the highest equalisation feature:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629185875729/
> 
> Please feel free to comment.
> Which software should I use for "out off camera HDR"?
> 
> Regards
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Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Paul Stenquist]

It appears to be spot on for the light on my monitor. It's definitely trending 
toward green. It might be a hair toward the blue and magenta side of things -- 
really just a hair -- but that would be right for the open shade light.

Paul
On Feb 5, 2012, at 10:22 AM, mike wilson wrote:

> On 05/02/2012 06:27, Adam Montoya wrote:
>> So I finally updated my computer so i can use fun things like LR and
>> what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.  Expecially
>> since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
>> worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag, is
>> it worth while?  Thanks
> 
> Funny - I was just about to post on this very subject.  Being extremely 
> unhappy at recent reproductions of my drivel (they were being printed much 
> redder than I was seeing on screen) I bought a Hueypro and calbrated (I 
> think) my screen.  It now has a decidedly green hue, compared to what I was 
> used to.  This would generally be the direction I anticipated but I was not 
> expecting such a noticable transformation. Maybe folks with known calibrated 
> screens could look at my recent posting and tell me if there is anything 
> clearly wrong with it.  In the colour stakes - I know about all the other 
> stuff, thanks
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Re: Re: Monitor Calibration (whats is everyone using?)

[Jens]

EYE-ONE.

Reagards
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On Feb 5, 2012 17:11 "David J Brooks"  wrote:
> Still have my copy of Spyder I. Even thought it was not supposed to
> work on my iMac 21.5" i seemed to remember a download from the net to
> look after that issue, and i managed to get a monitor calibrate.
> Probably should upgrade now anyway.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Adam Montoya 
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> > and
> > what not. Now color profiles are driving me up the creak.
> >  Expecially
> > since I now have two monitors running.  What cabibration tools are
> > worth using these days? The Pantone huey Pro has a nice price tag,
> > is
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HDR

[Jens]

Hi list.
I tried out the in camera HDR today.
The K-5 offers a number of Auto-HDR features in this area.
In this exapmle I used the highest equalisation feature:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629185875729/

Please feel free to comment.
Which software should I use for "out off camera HDR"?

Regards
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