RE: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Bob W
 
 I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I
 pick your brains for a moment.
 

I was born in Melbourne! Came back to the UK before my first birthday
though.

 I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking
 some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in
 Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I
 want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney.
 

Sounds like a great trip

[...]
 
 P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling
 like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely
 appreciated.

I've done quite a lot of this over the years, in Europe, Africa and India.
My best advice is

1. Travel light
2. Be adaptable
3. Don't travel every day

I try to keep the luggage down to one small bag - no more than 45l capacity,
and a small camera bag. The most effective for me has been a Pelican 1550
case with an Eagle Creek heavy duty strap, and a Domke F2 camera bag. The
Pelican is secure so the expensive stuff can stay in there, locked in a
hotel room during the day, goes safely on top of buses, but it is also good
for checking through airports with the cameras in, while you carry the
minimum of clothing in the F2. The F2 of course is your everyday shooting
bag. 

You don't need many clothes. The rule of 3 holds good for t-shirts and
smalls. You only need 2 pairs of trousers, at most; one pair of shoes and
one pair of flip-flips. And last, but far from least, a good towel and ample
supplies of cleft sticks.

Make an outline plan, so you have an idea of the places you want to go, and
the things you want to see and photograph, but accept that you won't be able
to stick to it because there are so many factors beyond your control. But
treat this as part of the enjoyment, not as a problem, otherwise you'll
spend the time gnashing your teeth in frustration.

I like to spend at least 2 or 3 nights in each place so I'm not wasting too
much time waiting in bus and train stations, and dealing with the logistics
of packing, unpacking, finding accommodation, schlepping stuff around. You
have to accept that you can't see everything or go everywhere.

Hope this helps. Enjoy.

Ibn Battuta


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RE: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Bob W
and if you're staying in budget hostels and suchlike, it's well worth taking
a sleeping bag liner. Silk ones are expensive, but they pack down really
small so they don't take up much precious space.

B

 
 
  I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I
  pick your brains for a moment.
 
 
 I was born in Melbourne! Came back to the UK before my first birthday
 though.
 
  I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking
  some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is
 in
  Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I
  want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney.
 
 
 Sounds like a great trip
 
 [...]
 
  P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost
 traveling
  like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely
  appreciated.
 
 I've done quite a lot of this over the years, in Europe, Africa and
 India.
 My best advice is
 
 1. Travel light
 2. Be adaptable
 3. Don't travel every day
 
 I try to keep the luggage down to one small bag - no more than 45l
 capacity,
 and a small camera bag. The most effective for me has been a Pelican
 1550
 case with an Eagle Creek heavy duty strap, and a Domke F2 camera bag.
 The
 Pelican is secure so the expensive stuff can stay in there, locked in a
 hotel room during the day, goes safely on top of buses, but it is also
 good
 for checking through airports with the cameras in, while you carry the
 minimum of clothing in the F2. The F2 of course is your everyday
 shooting
 bag.
 
 You don't need many clothes. The rule of 3 holds good for t-shirts and
 smalls. You only need 2 pairs of trousers, at most; one pair of shoes
 and
 one pair of flip-flips. And last, but far from least, a good towel and
 ample
 supplies of cleft sticks.
 
 Make an outline plan, so you have an idea of the places you want to go,
 and
 the things you want to see and photograph, but accept that you won't be
 able
 to stick to it because there are so many factors beyond your control.
 But
 treat this as part of the enjoyment, not as a problem, otherwise you'll
 spend the time gnashing your teeth in frustration.
 
 I like to spend at least 2 or 3 nights in each place so I'm not wasting
 too
 much time waiting in bus and train stations, and dealing with the
 logistics
 of packing, unpacking, finding accommodation, schlepping stuff around.
 You
 have to accept that you can't see everything or go everywhere.
 
 Hope this helps. Enjoy.
 
 Ibn Battuta
 
 
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GESO (4): Anniversary

2012-02-22 Thread David Mann
Road cones are still a very common sight in our city.  One of the ways people 
commemorated the anniversary today of last year's earthquake was to place 
bunches of flowers in the cones.  I thought it was a simple and beautiful 
gesture.  These pics are of a few cones from our neighbourhood.

http://www.multi.net.nz/feb-22-anniversary/

I couldn't go very far because of my dodgy leg.  What I thought was a muscle 
injury turned out to be a stress fracture so I'm not allowed to walk too much.

All shot with K10D and A*85mm f/1.4.

The last pic is how I commemorated... by making fresh pasta for dinner in 
Canterbury colours :)  I enjoy making pasta and it's so much better when made 
fresh.  Just a small part of trying to enjoy life by making the most of the 
little things, which is one lesson I learned a year ago.

Cheers,
Dave


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OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread Larry Colen
My friend Candice sent me this very cool link:

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/02/21/fully-functional-twin-lens-reflex-camera-created-using-lego-bricks/

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Re: GESO (4): Anniversary

2012-02-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:03 AM, David Mann wrote:

 Road cones are still a very common sight in our city.  One of the ways people 
 commemorated the anniversary today of last year's earthquake was to place 
 bunches of flowers in the cones.  I thought it was a simple and beautiful 
 gesture.  These pics are of a few cones from our neighbourhood.
 
 http://www.multi.net.nz/feb-22-anniversary/

Very nice, both the flowers, and your photos.

 
 I couldn't go very far because of my dodgy leg.  What I thought was a muscle 
 injury turned out to be a stress fracture so I'm not allowed to walk too much.
 
 All shot with K10D and A*85mm f/1.4.
 
 The last pic is how I commemorated... by making fresh pasta for dinner in 
 Canterbury colours :)  I enjoy making pasta and it's so much better when made 
 fresh.  Just a small part of trying to enjoy life by making the most of the 
 little things, which is one lesson I learned a year ago.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 
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RE: massive winter belgraderaw geso

2012-02-22 Thread Bob W
I like your photographs, but I hate that way of presenting them.

B

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  http://www.belgraderaw.com/2012/02/22/belgrade-raw-winter-blog/
 
  cheers
 



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Re: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread David Mann
On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Bob W wrote:

 I try to keep the luggage down to one small bag - no more than 45l capacity, 
 and a small camera bag.

I have a National Geographic book about expeditions that sat on my shelf for 
several years before I finally got around to reading it a couple of months ago.

There's a wonderful photo in there of a group of four explorers out the Central 
African Republic in the 1950s, sitting at their table next to the Barya River 
having lunch.  They even had a tablecloth and two bottles of Gordons Gin.

I guess if you're going light you may be able to get by with just one bottle of 
gin...

Dave


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Re: GESO (4): Anniversary

2012-02-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:16 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:03 AM, David Mann wrote:
 
 Road cones are still a very common sight in our city.  One of the ways 
 people commemorated the anniversary today of last year's earthquake was to 
 place bunches of flowers in the cones.  I thought it was a simple and 
 beautiful gesture.  These pics are of a few cones from our neighbourhood.
 
 http://www.multi.net.nz/feb-22-anniversary/
 
 Very nice, both the flowers, and your photos.
 
 
 I couldn't go very far because of my dodgy leg.  What I thought was a muscle 
 injury turned out to be a stress fracture so I'm not allowed to walk too 
 much.

Not so nice, by the way, about the leg.  I hope it heals quickly and well.

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RE: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Bob W
 
  I try to keep the luggage down to one small bag - no more than 45l
 capacity, and a small camera bag.
 
 I have a National Geographic book about expeditions that sat on my
 shelf for several years before I finally got around to reading it a
 couple of months ago.
 
 There's a wonderful photo in there of a group of four explorers out the
 Central African Republic in the 1950s, sitting at their table next to
 the Barya River having lunch.  They even had a tablecloth and two
 bottles of Gordons Gin.
 
 I guess if you're going light you may be able to get by with just one
 bottle of gin...
 

I would love to travel like Burton, Stanley, Speke et al, but unfortunately
I don't have the money for it. This looks ideal:
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/01155/bs_tell_teaser11_D_1155001s.jpg


I particularly like the wooden things in his riding boots to make sure they
keep their shape. Why aren't they ever included on packing lists?

B


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RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Watch out for those dingos.

Cheers,
frank

:-)

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From: John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com
Sent: February 22, 2012 2/22/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I
pick your brains for a moment.

I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking
some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in
Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I
want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney.

I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to
keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to
see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too
touristy.

(Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike
everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll
probably have to lug around.)

Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car
and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also,
what's the weather like there in May?

Many thanks,
John

P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling
like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely
appreciated.

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RE: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
It appears to have light leaks.

Cheers,
frank

;-)

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Darren Addy
I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same area in 2002 (in
May). I was with my daughter and part of a bus tour, so didn't have
the freedom to go where we wanted, but got away for some fun.
A long drive west of Melbourne is the Twelve Apostles, which was one
of the scenery highlights of the trip. (Google it along with Great
Ocean Road). Not sure if you will be able to get away that far, but
sure worth it.

Melbourne is a city  that I would love to return to. I'd call it the
San Francisco of Australia. Like San Francisco they didn't rip out
their street car system which is neat. Very artsy city. (Example,
while Sydney's Opera House gets all the press for it's architecture,
the Melbourne Opera House surpasses it in acoustics, being built
underground (several stories into bedrock, with something like 20 feet
of rock between each of the performance theaters). There is also a
great open air market in Melbourne.

Sydney is a friendly city, considering its size. You can climb the
famous Sydney bridge (to the top), take boat tours around the Harbor,
etc. The highlight of the trip (for me) was a visit to the historic
Sydney Observatory. We were fortunate enough to have clear skies the
night we went and I got to observe Omega Centauri (the best globular
cluster in our sky and seen only from the Southern Hemisphere) in the
historic original refractor still housed in one of the domes. The
southern hemisphere has a whole different night sky, if you are into
the stars at all. North of Sydney a bit, is the famous Blue Mountains
region.

May will provide you some autumn colors and mild temps. A great time
to visit. Enjoy!

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
Speaking about the Apostles...
Here are some pictures from the Great Ocean Road 190 km west of Melbourne.
https://picasaweb.google.com/115638976374047590388/GreatOceanRoad#
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same area in 2002 (in
 May). I was with my daughter and part of a bus tour, so didn't have
 the freedom to go where we wanted, but got away for some fun.
 A long drive west of Melbourne is the Twelve Apostles, which was one
 of the scenery highlights of the trip. (Google it along with Great
 Ocean Road). Not sure if you will be able to get away that far, but
 sure worth it.

 Melbourne is a city  that I would love to return to. I'd call it the
 San Francisco of Australia. Like San Francisco they didn't rip out
 their street car system which is neat. Very artsy city. (Example,
 while Sydney's Opera House gets all the press for it's architecture,
 the Melbourne Opera House surpasses it in acoustics, being built
 underground (several stories into bedrock, with something like 20 feet
 of rock between each of the performance theaters). There is also a
 great open air market in Melbourne.

 Sydney is a friendly city, considering its size. You can climb the
 famous Sydney bridge (to the top), take boat tours around the Harbor,
 etc. The highlight of the trip (for me) was a visit to the historic
 Sydney Observatory. We were fortunate enough to have clear skies the
 night we went and I got to observe Omega Centauri (the best globular
 cluster in our sky and seen only from the Southern Hemisphere) in the
 historic original refractor still housed in one of the domes. The
 southern hemisphere has a whole different night sky, if you are into
 the stars at all. North of Sydney a bit, is the famous Blue Mountains
 region.

 May will provide you some autumn colors and mild temps. A great time
 to visit. Enjoy!

 Darren Addy
 Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread p. j. alling
I'm thinking that all of this really cool, or maybe anti cool
photography stuff will be much harder to do if film disappears.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:43 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 It appears to have light leaks.

 Cheers,
 frank

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OT Review.

2012-02-22 Thread David J Brooks
This is for the 3-4 people on board here, that might want one.:-)

http://reviews.photographyreview.com/nikon-d800-36-megapixel-multimedia-hd-slr

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Re: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread David J Brooks
Moving the Holga up a whole notch.

Dave

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Re: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread p. j. alling
More than one notch, but that's not necessarily a good thing.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:06 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Moving the Holga up a whole notch.

 Dave

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Re: OT Review.

2012-02-22 Thread David Savage
I've been told I'm in pole position on my dealers pre-order list...

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 This is for the 3-4 people on board here, that might want one.:-)

 http://reviews.photographyreview.com/nikon-d800-36-megapixel-multimedia-hd-slr

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Re: OT Review.

2012-02-22 Thread David Savage
Oh...

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample01.htm

On 22 February 2012 23:18, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been told I'm in pole position on my dealers pre-order list...

 On 22 February 2012 23:01, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is for the 3-4 people on board here, that might want one.:-)

 http://reviews.photographyreview.com/nikon-d800-36-megapixel-multimedia-hd-slr

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OT: Perfectly Timed Photos

2012-02-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.bspcn.com/2012/02/20/25-perfectly-timed-photos/
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Tim Bray
I have visited Melbourne frequently and driven around Victoria a lot
and NSW a bit.

- You can easily spend a day just poking around Melbourne's Victoria Market
- Get to the beach!  Melbourne's aren't that great, but Victoria's got
lots. If you can get down to the bottom right corner of Oz, 90 Mile
Beach is outstanding
- Mornington Peninsula is beautiful and nice to explore
- Eat Italian on Lygon St
- Melbourne's a happening place; there's always something going on
- Victoria State Library is architecturally magnificent
- The neighborhoods (they call them Suburbs, even if they're
central) are just charming.  Very few are without a decent bakery and
a couple of coffee shops

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not from Australia, but I got to visit the same area in 2002 (in
 May). I was with my daughter and part of a bus tour, so didn't have
 the freedom to go where we wanted, but got away for some fun.
 A long drive west of Melbourne is the Twelve Apostles, which was one
 of the scenery highlights of the trip. (Google it along with Great
 Ocean Road). Not sure if you will be able to get away that far, but
 sure worth it.

 Melbourne is a city  that I would love to return to. I'd call it the
 San Francisco of Australia. Like San Francisco they didn't rip out
 their street car system which is neat. Very artsy city. (Example,
 while Sydney's Opera House gets all the press for it's architecture,
 the Melbourne Opera House surpasses it in acoustics, being built
 underground (several stories into bedrock, with something like 20 feet
 of rock between each of the performance theaters). There is also a
 great open air market in Melbourne.

 Sydney is a friendly city, considering its size. You can climb the
 famous Sydney bridge (to the top), take boat tours around the Harbor,
 etc. The highlight of the trip (for me) was a visit to the historic
 Sydney Observatory. We were fortunate enough to have clear skies the
 night we went and I got to observe Omega Centauri (the best globular
 cluster in our sky and seen only from the Southern Hemisphere) in the
 historic original refractor still housed in one of the domes. The
 southern hemisphere has a whole different night sky, if you are into
 the stars at all. North of Sydney a bit, is the famous Blue Mountains
 region.

 May will provide you some autumn colors and mild temps. A great time
 to visit. Enjoy!

 Darren Addy
 Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: It's hep to be square

2012-02-22 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Feb 21, 2012, at 21:11 , kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

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 - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: It's hep to be square
 
 
 Quoted from article: Square format is more stable and relaxed than 
 rectangular formats...
 
 Huh?
 
 
 Personally, I'm more into the oval format.

Isn't that why Ford was almost laughed out of Detroit?

Were you part of that design team Ken?


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PESO -- Pot hole

2012-02-22 Thread P. J. Alling

Damn, but I'm boring...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pothole.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 limited.

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Re: massive winter belgraderaw geso

2012-02-22 Thread Luka Knezevic - Strika
thx for the comments.
btw, these are not  all mine. it is a winter blog by belgrade raw photo 
collectivve (5 of us). feel free to check the rest of our work at 
www.belgraderaw.com

as far as presentation goes, we will have an update of design soonish. also a 
lot more work to be published as well as a local offline event here in belgrade

luka
On 22 Feb 2012, at 10:18, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I like your photographs, but I hate that way of presenting them.
 
 B
 
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 http://www.belgraderaw.com/2012/02/22/belgrade-raw-winter-blog/
 
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Re: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:58 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

 I'm thinking that all of this really cool, or maybe anti cool
 photography stuff will be much harder to do if film disappears.

Not really, because people will start cannibalizing digital cameras for parts, 
and then you won't have to worry about opening things up to put the film in.


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Re: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread kwaller


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- Original Message - 
From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

Subject: RE: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)




 I try to keep the luggage down to one small bag - no more than 45l
capacity, and a small camera bag.

I have a National Geographic book about expeditions that sat on my
shelf for several years before I finally got around to reading it a
couple of months ago.

There's a wonderful photo in there of a group of four explorers out the
Central African Republic in the 1950s, sitting at their table next to
the Barya River having lunch.  They even had a tablecloth and two
bottles of Gordons Gin.

I guess if you're going light you may be able to get by with just one
bottle of gin...



I would love to travel like Burton, Stanley, Speke et al, but 
unfortunately

I don't have the money for it. This looks ideal:
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/01155/bs_tell_teaser11_D_1155001s.jpg




I particularly like the wooden things in his riding boots to make sure 
they

keep their shape. Why aren't they ever included on packing lists?



My first thought was they were there to keep little critters out.

When I'ver backpacked I tried to mindful of the things that could get into 
my empty boots - spuders scorpions etc.




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Re: It's hep to be square

2012-02-22 Thread kwaller


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From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com

Subject: Re: It's hep to be square



On Feb 21, 2012, at 21:11 , kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: It's hep to be square


Quoted from article: Square format is more stable and relaxed than 
rectangular formats...


Huh?



Personally, I'm more into the oval format.


Isn't that why Ford was almost laughed out of Detroit?


If your referring to various editions of previous Tauruses, I wouldn't say 
Ford was almost laughed out of Detroit - while they were controversial they 
sold well.




Were you part of that design team Ken?



No. I never worked in Ford car design - Most of my time at Ford was spent in 
Truck - Design, Development, Durability  assembly plant resident engineer.




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Re: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Having cannibalized a lot of different devices for parts I can say that 
it's easier said than done.


On 2/22/2012 2:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:58 AM, p. j. alling wrote:


I'm thinking that all of this really cool, or maybe anti cool
photography stuff will be much harder to do if film disappears.

Not really, because people will start cannibalizing digital cameras for parts, 
and then you won't have to worry about opening things up to put the film in.


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Re: GESO (4): Anniversary

2012-02-22 Thread David Mann
On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I couldn't go very far because of my dodgy leg.  What I thought was a 
 muscle injury turned out to be a stress fracture so I'm not allowed to walk 
 too much.
 
 Not so nice, by the way, about the leg.  I hope it heals quickly and well.

Thanks, it's been a frustrating time.  I enjoy running but have had to rest 
since last December (I'm still allowed to bike on flat roads and swim).  At one 
stage we thought it had healed but I did some short easy running drills and it 
flared up again.  That's when I decided to see the sports doctor instead.

The current thinking is that I can get back to running after we return from our 
honeymoon in mid-March.  It's annoying because I'd been looking forward to 
doing lots of trail running during the summer.

Cheers,
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Cold Day

2012-02-22 Thread Don Guthrie
The coldest day in the mildest midwest winter in years. This shallow 
lake is one of the few somewhat solid ice but you can see open water in 
the distance.


CC is always welcome  will be cogitated.


http://donspix.posterous.com/coldest-day-in-the-mildest-winter-on-the-lake#!/

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PESO: Yellow Hibiscus

2012-02-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: PESO: Yellow Hibiscus

2012-02-22 Thread Larry Colen



On 2/22/2012 2:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

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Very pretty flower.  I would have liked the photo more if you had aimed 
the camera a bit to the left so the other buds weren't cropped, and 
moved the main bloom more to the right.


With what you have, I'd crop it just to the left and just below the 
bloom, either leaving it at about a 4x5 rectangle with the bloom in the 
lower left, or going square with the bloom in the lower left, or 
bringing it as tight as you can with a square crop on the bloom.


I like the way the blue/greay water makes the bloom stand out, so I'd 
probably go with the rectangular crop.





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Re: PESO: Yellow Hibiscus

2012-02-22 Thread Tim Bray
Nice picture. Try cropping it down.  Square presentation might work,
you'd have to sacrifice the pretty buds but that might be worth it -T

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Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?

2012-02-22 Thread Mark C

On 2/21/2012 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

This is a real question for me.  KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and
it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that
the latter will  have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ.
  Thoughts on this?

I'm seriously considering selling my K-7if I get a K-01, but I'm using 
the K-7 as a backup body and it gets virtually no use. It seems like the 
K-01, as a non-SLR,  would offer something a little different and better 
for certain niches than the K-7, but would still be a serviceable backup 
to the K-5 if one was ever needed. I toted around my old K-10D for years 
as a backup for the K-7, and shot virtually nothing with it. THe K-01 
might actually get used a lot more than a backup but still be available 
as a backup for the K-5.


Obviously, I'm not contemplating making the K-01 my primary camera...

Mark

PS: I agree with everyone about not selling to KEH. I'd sell to the list 
or eBay.


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Re: Cold Day

2012-02-22 Thread David J Brooks
Has a definite winter feel to it.

Dave

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 The coldest day in the mildest midwest winter in years. This shallow lake is
 one of the few somewhat solid ice but you can see open water in the
 distance.

 CC is always welcome  will be cogitated.


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Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?

2012-02-22 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Feb 22, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Mark C wrote:

 On 2/21/2012 12:03 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
 This is a real question for me.  KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and
 it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that
 the latter will  have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ.
  Thoughts on this?
 
 I'm seriously considering selling my K-7if I get a K-01, but I'm using the 
 K-7 as a backup body and it gets virtually no use. It seems like the K-01, as 
 a non-SLR,  would offer something a little different and better for certain 
 niches than the K-7, but would still be a serviceable backup to the K-5 if 
 one was ever needed. I toted around my old K-10D for years as a backup for 
 the K-7, and shot virtually nothing with it. THe K-01 might actually get used 
 a lot more than a backup but still be available as a backup for the K-5.
 
 Obviously, I'm not contemplating making the K-01 my primary camera...
 
 Mark

The K-01 does make sense as a backup. Like you, I almost never use my K-7.

Paul
 
 PS: I agree with everyone about not selling to KEH. I'd sell to the list or 
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Re: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-02-22 15:37, P. J. Alling wrote:

Having cannibalized a lot of different devices for parts I can say that
it's easier said than done.


Especially SMT electronics.

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Re: PESO: Yellow Hibiscus

2012-02-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the vibrant colors. If it were mine, I'd crop off the dead area at the 
right side of the frame.
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Re: PESO -- Pot hole

2012-02-22 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:


Damn, but I'm boring...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pothole.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 limited.




That's the most attractive pot hole I've seen today.



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Re: Cold Day

2012-02-22 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com:

The coldest day in the mildest midwest winter in years. This shallow  
lake is one of the few somewhat solid ice but you can see open water  
in the distance.


CC is always welcome  will be cogitated.


http://donspix.posterous.com/coldest-day-in-the-mildest-winter-on-the-lake#!/





It certainly has the crisp, wintery feel to it.  I like it as is but,  
if that lake is close to home, there should be lots of photo ops  
there.  I'd be going back often.




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Re: Peso Rail building

2012-02-22 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:


Went on a photo drive on Monday (Family Day up here). I have been
searching the net for old and abandoned rail stations and came across
this one in Mariposa Ontario, just north of little Britain. This is
whats left of the warehouse. You can see what was the old rail bed and
is now part of  trails through out southern Ontario.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15223952
Warehouse.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15223953
Entrance.

Really happy with how the K-5 handles the shadows. K-5, D FA 50 f2.8




I like the overall view but I'm a bit of a sucker for old railway  
infrastructure. If it were mine I'd crop the bottom to remove that  
shadow.


I'm less keen on the entrance photo but I agree that the K-5 has  
handled the shadows well.





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Re: It's hep to be square

2012-02-22 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:52 , kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 Quoted from article: Square format is more stable and relaxed than 
 rectangular formats...
 
 Huh?
 
 
 Personally, I'm more into the oval format.
 
 Isn't that why Ford was almost laughed out of Detroit?
 
 If your referring to various editions of previous Tauruses, I wouldn't say 
 Ford was almost laughed out of Detroit - while they were controversial they 
 sold well.

I think it was the media's reporting of Ford's new look that poked the 
critics pens. I had no objection to the look other than the reduced 
visibility through the rear quarter panels. I know the government and local 
municipalities bought a lot of them. It was the only kind for King County, who 
kept them way too long. Any vehicle used by a variety of people for short trips 
every day, including weekends, can be maintained, but appearance wise they get 
pretty ragtag, inside and out. The Police used the big cars, the rest of us had 
to use the Taurus and the smaller whatsit version. Cleaned up and repainted, 
the Interceptors were selling from between $3000 (Patrol cars) $5000 
(detectives and CID) up to $7000 for those assigned to the brass with low 
mileage and no bondo.

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Re: PESO: Yellow Hibiscus

2012-02-22 Thread Brian Walters

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Very pretty photo.  Hibiscus always make excellent floral subjects.

I pretty much agree with Paul's cropping suggestion.  I'd crop a bit  
off the left and then crop more tightly on the flower.  This has the  
effect of removing much of the bare area on the right and gives a more  
pleasing frame to my eye.




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Re: prices

2012-02-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: steve harley


on 2012-02-20 15:02 John Sessoms wrote

On eBay the current range was $102 up to a $527 Buy It Now for a complete kit
w/18-55 lens. I think that BIN is optimistic, to say the least.


best to check completed auctions only, then you'll only get BIN prices if
someone actually bought it (especially if there's a wide distribution, i pretty
much ignore the upper half of the eBay price range)


I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let you 
look at the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. 
I don't and don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions 
for years and years.


You can still tell a little bit from the auctions in progress. If it's 
only got another 2 hours to run and still no bids they've obviously set 
the initial price too high.


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Re: Canadian photographer denied entry to USA

2012-02-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: knarftheria...@gmail.com


I expected your Utube offering to be something like this:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqLuIXwsLDwfeature=youtube_gdata_player

No, Mark doesn't talk like that but Newfies do.




I just remembered the line about a very pronounced accent and that was 
the only clip I could find.


But I'm not sure about that Newfie language lesson. I understood the 
part about How's your mother and father ... I'm going downtown, but 
they kinda glossed over the part about eating a boiled salted moose with 
gravy.


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Re: Canadian photographer denied entry to USA

2012-02-22 Thread David Parsons
As far as I know, if you refuse the cancer scan, you can't opt for the
groping.  It's an arbitrarily random decision.  If you refuse the
scan, they won't let you through.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:39 AM, David Mann d...@multisport.net.nz wrote:
 Australia's doing it too :(  Mandatory porn-scan in the cancer machine and if 
 you refuse the scan you're refused entry.  At least the TSA lets you opt for 
 a groping instead.


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Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?

2012-02-22 Thread John Sessoms

From:  Kenneth Waller


- Original Message -
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?



From: Steven Desjardins


This is a real question for me.  KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and
it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that
the latter will  have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ.
 Thoughts on this?


If the K-01 is the tool you need to take your photography where you want
it to go, and KEH will offer enough for the K7 to make that possible,
it's a no brainer.


You've apparently never tried to sell anything to KEH.


Moot point. If both conditions apply ... it is a no brainer.

If neither condition applies ...

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Re: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann


On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Bob W wrote:


I try to keep the luggage down to one small bag - no more than 45l capacity, 
and a small camera bag.

I have a National Geographic book about expeditions that sat on my shelf for 
several years before I finally got around to reading it a couple of months ago.

There's a wonderful photo in there of a group of four explorers out the Central 
African Republic in the 1950s, sitting at their table next to the Barya River 
having lunch.  They even had a tablecloth and two bottles of Gordons Gin.

I guess if you're going light you may be able to get by with just one bottle of 
gin...

Dave


Shouldn't be a problem. Australia used to be part of the British Empire, 
so I'm sure they'll have gin.


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Re: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread David Savage
Visit the right areas  you might even hook up with an old gin.

DS

On 23/02/2012, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: David Mann

 On Feb 22, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Bob W wrote:

 I try to keep the luggage down to one small bag - no more than 45l
 capacity, and a small camera bag.
 I have a National Geographic book about expeditions that sat on my shelf
 for several years before I finally got around to reading it a couple of
 months ago.

 There's a wonderful photo in there of a group of four explorers out the
 Central African Republic in the 1950s, sitting at their table next to the
 Barya River having lunch.  They even had a tablecloth and two bottles of
 Gordons Gin.

 I guess if you're going light you may be able to get by with just one
 bottle of gin...

 Dave

 Shouldn't be a problem. Australia used to be part of the British Empire,
 so I'm sure they'll have gin.

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread David Parsons
It's a bit of a hike by bike, but the Blue Mountains and the Three
Sisters area is very scenic and worth the trip.  We took a bus trip
and it was at least an hour each way (outside Sydney).  I couldn't
tell you what that'd equate to biking.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:46 AM, John Celio
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 I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I
 pick your brains for a moment.

 I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking
 some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in
 Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I
 want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney.

 I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to
 keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to
 see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too
 touristy.

 (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike
 everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll
 probably have to lug around.)

 Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car
 and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also,
 what's the weather like there in May?

 Many thanks,
 John

 P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling
 like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely
 appreciated.

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread John Celio
Sorry I haven't have a chance to reply sooner. Thanks to everyone who
has commented so far. Lots of good info; I'm making a list of
everything I might be able to use for preparing and while I'm there.

Brian Walters wrote:
 May is a good time to visit Victoria and New South Wales.  The weather
 is generally excellent for travelling.  Temperatures would be in the
 high teens- low 20s (Celsius) in lowland/coastal areas - a bit cooler
 if you get into the alpine areas but it wont be freezing.  May is also
 good because I'm fairly sure it's within the school term period for
 both Vic and NSW, so accommodation shouldn't be a problem.

Very glad to hear this. I was worried it'd be rainy or cold since it's
so far south, but it sounds like I could get by with a sweatshirt and
a light jacket

 Melbourne to Sydney is about 880 km by the shortest route and about
 1100 by the coast.  I'm not sure I'd want to tackle that in two weeks
 by bicycle but that's me...

Well, it'd be bicycle + bus/train for longer stretches. I bike
everywhere these days, so the idea of long distances isn't too
daunting.

 Anyway I've done quite a bit of touring in Vic and NSW (and I'm sure
 others have too) so I can probably suggest places to visit but first I
 think you should decide how you want to get around because that will
 pretty much determine what places are practical - you might be
 restricted to defined coach/train routes.

That's the tough part. I have no idea what's around. I figure I'll
spend a few days in Melbourne exploring after my work obligations are
done, and I'll spend a few days (or more) in Sydney at the end, but
it's the in-between space that I have no clue about. I know there are
easy ways to go straight from one city to the other, but I'd like to
see the Australian countryside and smaller towns. A friend of mine
keeps pushing me to go to Tasmania for a couple days, but I don't do
well on choppy seas (I get seasick super easily).

Say, is it worth swinging through Canberra at all? I know it's the
capital, but the few people I've asked say it's extremely boring.

 As far as accommodation goes, there are backpackers hostels in most
 major towns.

So far I've found a lot of good hostel options for the cities. I
haven't looked for places in between because I don't know my route
yet, but I figure it shouldn't be too hard to find something. I'm also
considering signing up with couchsurfing.org and seeing if I can find
places to stay for a night along the way.


David Mann wrote:
 but I don't think they ever allowed you to take a holiday after the work was
 done because of the travel insurance arrangements.  So make sure you're 
 covered.

I made sure and double sure this was okay. Apparently my organization
lets people do this pretty frequently, which means I'll get to take a
neat vacation like this almost every year (though not two weeks every
time) when we have our big international event.


Bob W wrote:
 [a lot of really good advice]

Thanks Bob, that's a lot of stuff I never would have thought of
(especially the rule of 3). Regarding clothes, do you just have to
keep an eye out for a laundromat every few days, or are there some
tricks to cleaning things along the way that might be helpful? Also,
since you've been around the world, are there any immunization shots I
should think about getting before this trip?


Knarf wrote:
 Watch out for those dingos.
It's alright, I'm not bringing any babies along.


Darren Addy wrote:
 Great Ocean Road
I've heard of this and seen photos, and I definitely want to try to
get down there.

 Melbourne Opera House
Now that sounds like something I'll have to see (and hear).

 a visit to the historic Sydney Observatory
I LOVE astronomy, so I am DEFINITELY going to have to see this. Thanks
for the tips!!


Tim Bray wrote:
 [some really great points on places to go in Melbourne]
Oh man, those all sound awesome. You and Darren both mentioned
architecture, which is an interest of mine, so I'm glad to know a few
places to check out.


Thanks everyone! This is some great stuff for me to start with. I can
hardly wait to be there!

John

P.S.: I hear Australia is a better place for beer  wine than liquor,
so I may have to pass on the gin. ;)

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Re: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Peter Loveday

Coopers all the way :)

But then, I'm South Australian, so somewhat biased :)  There are various 
good microbreweries around, of course.


I would suggest various SA wine destinations, but as you're not really 
coming this way...


But if you are into wine, there are a number of areas between Melbourne and 
Sydney, depending on the route you're taking, say around Griffith or Mudgee 
area, amongst others.  I've not visited them myself.


Of course Hunter Valley isn't prohibitively far up from Sydney, if you 
wanted to do that.


Hmm, do we have any Victorian PDMLers?  I can't actually think of any...

- Peter

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From: David Savage

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Subject: Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

I'm a big fan of James Squire  Little Creatures beers.

LC is here in Freo. The do an awesome lentil curry  the pizzas are
spectacular.

On 23/02/2012, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:32 PM, John Celio
neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:

P.S.: I hear Australia is a better place for beer  wine than liquor,
so I may have to pass on the gin. ;)


Not sure how big craft brewing is in Australia, but the native beers I
sampled were similar enough to the popular brews in the U.S. from the
big breweries.  I've heard that they are a bit territorial about beers
(literally, by province). VB (Victoria Bitter) for Victoria, for
example. The first 33 on this list are Australian. Perhaps you can see
how many you can hunt down while there: http://bit.ly/wyQDBr
or
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vq=cache:U_XwtB5PB-MJ:www.jacksonsongeorge.com.au/pdf/BHF%2520Beer%2520List.pdf+hl=engl=uspid=blsrcid=ADGEESjyrMuBSj8dIoJl9JVElE0DiOYW5rt4kHLPzDWUx4arDIbNIJB6HF5mSJiLFE94fTLv-ITL3O_bWEbzEClLiEMbiehZiQcQLwVXcZpwSNKyKhp44nZitRhD4MQhisrC4gTDh_NBsig=AHIEtbRDdVW-1Of2MWReDOCHrmNpM4JJ1gpli=1

If you want a laugh, Google Hahn's Premium commercials and watch the
videos. Enjoyed a pitcher with our (fantastic) meal at a tiny
Melbourne pub.

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread David Mann
On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:32 PM, John Celio wrote:

 P.S.: I hear Australia is a better place for beer  wine than liquor,
 so I may have to pass on the gin. ;)

Make sure you study up on the correct lingo for the areas you'll be visiting :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Australia#Sizes

Dave


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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Tim Bray
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM, John Celio
neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Say, is it worth swinging through Canberra at all? I know it's the
 capital, but the few people I've asked say it's extremely boring.

I’d say yes. The big National Art Museum has some fabulous stuff, both
Northern Hemisphere (maybe my fave Jackson Pollock anywhere) and of
course astonishing Aboriginal work.  And the Parliament building is
like nothing else on earth.  Both my wife and I have had real issues,
professionally, with Canberra people, but you won't be there to work.

 -T

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RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 Thanks Bob, that's a lot of stuff I never would have thought of
 (especially the rule of 3). Regarding clothes, do you just have to
 keep an eye out for a laundromat every few days, or are there some
 tricks to cleaning things along the way that might be helpful? 

Do the shower stomp. Wash your clothes while you're showering, and leave
them to dry overnight. 

 Also,
 since you've been around the world, are there any immunization shots I
 should think about getting before this trip?
 

Not that I'm aware of, but you should take professional advice. I think the
thing gets most people is the change of drinking water. Every country's
drinking water seems to contain its own set of microbes, so until your
stomach is used to it you might end up with a touch of the trots.

The cure for this is to book a room in the Lake Tana Hotel, Bahir Dar,
Ethiopia, and clean your teeth in your room without bothering to look at the
water and thereby learn that it comes straight out of the lake. The ensuing
10 days will be a feverish hell of explosive you-know-what, but forever
after your stomach will be immune to everything. If you live.

Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole
purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them.

B


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Re: OT, DIY medium format camera

2012-02-22 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:37 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 Having cannibalized a lot of different devices for parts I can say that it's 
 easier said than done.

I expect so, but I was thinking along the lines of using most of whatever was 
there initially.  Maybe grafting an SLR body onto the back of an old TLR or 
such like.

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Re: prices

2012-02-22 Thread steve harley

on 2012-02-22 19:52 John Sessoms wrote

I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let you look at
the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. I don't and
don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions for years and years.


okay, i understand that; i do think that's still the policy, and it does stop 
you from seeing the most meaningful pricing info




You can still tell a little bit from the auctions in progress. If it's only got
another 2 hours to run and still no bids they've obviously set the initial
price too high.


i suppose you can learn something from that, though the sample will be smaller 
and it could easily be something about a particular listing makes people feel 
like it's not worth much, or is a bigger risk


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Re: PESO -- Pot hole

2012-02-22 Thread steve harley

on 2012-02-22 11:26 P. J. Alling wrote

Damn, but I'm boring...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pothole.html


interesting geometric composition; if the bottom of the pothole were black, it 
might be a little more surreal


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RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

2012-02-22 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com:


[...]\

Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole
purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them.




I was wondering when someone was going to mention them, but if John  
stays away from Canberra he should be OK.


Oh, you were talking about the actual wildlife.



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GESO after dinner photo walk

2012-02-22 Thread Larry Colen
I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, not really excited about 
anything I've gotten.  I tried to shake it off by going for a walk around 
Pacific Ave in Santa Cruz after dinner, then a quick drive down to the wharf.  
While there isn't anything particularly outstanding, I think I got a few 
entertaining shots.  It was nice weather, so the hippies were out in force.  
What's the collective noun for hippies?  Tribe? Deadshow?
Anyways, they actually had someone pretty decent on the trumpet, so their 
impromptu bardic circle on the sidewalk actually sounded better than most.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629434946815/

I'd love to see what Knarf would do given a K-5 and a couple hours on a warm 
night in Santa Cruz.

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RE: GESO after dinner photo walk

2012-02-22 Thread Bob W
 I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, not really excited
 about anything I've gotten.  I tried to shake it off by going for a
 walk around Pacific Ave in Santa Cruz after dinner, then a quick drive
 down to the wharf.  

I misread that first time as dwarf. Reminds me of a laughter fit I had once
when I was discussing the next car I wanted to buy and someone said don't
get one of them, get a midget instead.

 While there isn't anything particularly
 outstanding, I think I got a few entertaining shots.  It was nice
 weather, so the hippies were out in force.  What's the collective noun
 for hippies?  Tribe? Deadshow?

A fug

 Anyways, they actually had someone pretty decent on the trumpet, so
 their impromptu bardic circle on the sidewalk actually sounded better
 than most.
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629434946815/
 

Nice little slice of life

 I'd love to see what Knarf would do given a K-5 and a couple hours on a
 warm night in Santa Cruz.



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