Re: PESO - Lost Found

2012-03-17 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com:


On the way home from work today, I took back roads I didn't know, and
got lost on purpose. I found this:

http://stdw.us/Flickr-LnF




Very spectacular sky but the line of trees really enhance the overall  
composition.






This is part of my project to shoot exclusively with the Pentax A
28/2.8 during Lent--giving up all my other lenses. I mentioned the
project at the beginning, but since we're halfway through, and I was
pretty happy with what I got today, I thought I would mention it
again. You can see more on my blog:

http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/




There's some nice work there - especially 'Sunrise Tree', 'Space  
Station' and 'Orthogonal'.


I don't have the A 28/2.8 but I do have the F 28/2.8, which I rarely  
use.  I wonder if the two have the same optical formula.



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Re: GESO: Spring WIldflowers

2012-03-17 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net:

I took a day off today and went down to the Dowagiac Woods in Cass  
County, MI, to see if the wildflowers were out. Usually there is  
nothing but harbinger of spring at this time of year, but I found a  
few sprigs of hepatica, much earlier than usual.


So here is a handful of very early woodland wildflowers:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

or

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/early-spring-wildflowers




All excellent but the 4th one with those sharply defined hairs on the  
sepals(?) is the standout for me.




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Re: PESO: The Feminine

2012-03-17 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:

Maiden Hair grass blooms in October, and the first hard freeze turns  
the flower heads into lacy delights. Winter was mild this year and  
some of the flowers remained beautifully intact until spring. Shot  
this one the other day with the K-5 and 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1  
macro. f8, 1/250th, ISO 800.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15365072size=lg
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Very unusual (to me).  I don't think I've ever see grass flower heards  
like that.


A very attractive image - especially with that dark, contrasting background.



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Re: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

2012-03-17 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:


This one's really for Frank, so the rest of you can safely move along.
Oh hell, have a look anyway. :-)

I popped in to the Gallery Studio Cafe (Lakeshore and Islington --
Frank's neck of the woods) on Wednesday evening to see the gallery
space and the very impressive art, and to hear an old friend, Steven
Ambrose, fronting the Uptown Swing Band, a nine-piece jazz outfit who
play there regularly. The band was smoking hot (after a suitable
warm-up period). Steven is a fine vocalist and a comedian, so it was a
real pleasure to be there. I was also joined by my wife, my studio
workshop teacher, her charming husband, and the ever-radiant model
Elle, who is also a singer/songwriter and was totally digging the old
1940's chestnuts they were performing.

I was distracted and had had a beer and most of my shots turned to
mush. But despite my worst efforts this one seemed to work ...

Heaven's 'Bone
http://flic.kr/p/bDrnLe

K20D, DA* 55 @ 1.4, 1/400th, ISO 1600. Lr.
No flash was fired in the making of this image.

Comments welcome!




Well, it's all been said, but that's a seriously great image.  That  
patch of light above his head really adds to the mood.




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Re: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

2012-03-17 Thread Tim Bray
Good lighting! -T

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 This one's really for Frank, so the rest of you can safely move along.
 Oh hell, have a look anyway. :-)

 I popped in to the Gallery Studio Cafe (Lakeshore and Islington --
 Frank's neck of the woods) on Wednesday evening to see the gallery
 space and the very impressive art, and to hear an old friend, Steven
 Ambrose, fronting the Uptown Swing Band, a nine-piece jazz outfit who
 play there regularly. The band was smoking hot (after a suitable
 warm-up period). Steven is a fine vocalist and a comedian, so it was a
 real pleasure to be there. I was also joined by my wife, my studio
 workshop teacher, her charming husband, and the ever-radiant model
 Elle, who is also a singer/songwriter and was totally digging the old
 1940's chestnuts they were performing.

 I was distracted and had had a beer and most of my shots turned to
 mush. But despite my worst efforts this one seemed to work ...

 Heaven's 'Bone
 http://flic.kr/p/bDrnLe

 K20D, DA* 55 @ 1.4, 1/400th, ISO 1600. Lr.
 No flash was fired in the making of this image.

 Comments welcome!
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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 
 If I'm lucky, I too will outgrow my present fascination with imaging
 expressions of femininity. :-) Beware the siren call, Larry, lest you
 too start looking for suitable LBDs and Fendi heels. Unless it's for
 yourself. I understand that that's ok.

I've got the sinking feeling that photos of pretty girls is a level of 
mediocrity that I'm never going to rise above.
As a matter of fact, I spent the evening tonight at the Santa Cruz Museum of 
Art and History, and what did I end up taking photos of?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6989140377/

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RE: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

2012-03-17 Thread John Coyle
That's one hell of a shot, Bruce!  Beautiful tones and captured the musician's 
intense
concentration as well.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2012 1:23 AM
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Subject: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

This one's really for Frank, so the rest of you can safely move along.
Oh hell, have a look anyway. :-)

I popped in to the Gallery Studio Cafe (Lakeshore and Islington -- Frank's neck 
of the
woods) on Wednesday evening to see the gallery space and the very impressive 
art, and to
hear an old friend, Steven Ambrose, fronting the Uptown Swing Band, a 
nine-piece jazz
outfit who play there regularly. The band was smoking hot (after a suitable 
warm-up
period). Steven is a fine vocalist and a comedian, so it was a real pleasure to 
be there.
I was also joined by my wife, my studio workshop teacher, her charming husband, 
and the
ever-radiant model Elle, who is also a singer/songwriter and was totally 
digging the old
1940's chestnuts they were performing.

I was distracted and had had a beer and most of my shots turned to mush. But 
despite my
worst efforts this one seemed to work ...

Heaven's 'Bone
http://flic.kr/p/bDrnLe

K20D, DA* 55 @ 1.4, 1/400th, ISO 1600. Lr.
No flash was fired in the making of this image.

Comments welcome!
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Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen
I'm on another photo forum where someone posted a couple of pictures, asking 
for advice on how to expose them properly.  He did use the flash for fill, 
outside, with a compact digital point and shoot.  Once it was determined what 
camera he was shooting with people stopped suggesting speedlights, and 
concentrated more on things like, have the model (who is black by the way) take 
off her baseball cap, and various suggestions for reflectors to use for fill.  
Then, today, someone posts:

I just want to point you to Ansel Adams' Zone system. It's a great basic theory 
of exposure that can be summed up with expose for the shadows and develop for 
the highlights.


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Re: GESO spcecdt

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:23 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 So sorry for your loss of such a long-time and obviously dear friend.
 
 Your photo tribute to him is moving and I'm sure will be treasured by his 
 family and friends alike. Wonderful photos!
 
 cheers,
 frank

Thanks Frank.  It wasn't so much that John was a good friend, as that he was a 
good man.  I regret that despite knowing him for 22 years, I never got to know 
him better.  There's a lot to learn from his passing, not the least of which is 
how unfair the Universe is when someone like John dies so young, and so many 
irredeemable pustulant sacks of protoplasm are still walking the earth and 
wasting oxygen.

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RE: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 John Sessoms
 
 I guess I'm a fan of studio photography. Just don't have the money to
 build the studio. And even if I had the money, I don't have the space.
 

Well, both Richard Avedon and Irving Penn made some great studio photos
outdoors by judicious use of walls and canvas. And David Bailey, when asked
why he used only one light in the studio, replied Because there's only one
fuckin' sun. 

You could do a lot worse than follow these examples. Use the restrictions to
stimulate your creativity.

B


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Re: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you very much, John, and Tim and Brian!

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 3:09 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 That's one hell of a shot, Bruce!  Beautiful tones and captured the 
 musician's intense
 concentration as well.

 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia



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 Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2012 1:23 AM
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 Subject: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

 This one's really for Frank, so the rest of you can safely move along.
 Oh hell, have a look anyway. :-)

 I popped in to the Gallery Studio Cafe (Lakeshore and Islington -- Frank's 
 neck of the
 woods) on Wednesday evening to see the gallery space and the very impressive 
 art, and to
 hear an old friend, Steven Ambrose, fronting the Uptown Swing Band, a 
 nine-piece jazz
 outfit who play there regularly. The band was smoking hot (after a suitable 
 warm-up
 period). Steven is a fine vocalist and a comedian, so it was a real pleasure 
 to be there.
 I was also joined by my wife, my studio workshop teacher, her charming 
 husband, and the
 ever-radiant model Elle, who is also a singer/songwriter and was totally 
 digging the old
 1940's chestnuts they were performing.

 I was distracted and had had a beer and most of my shots turned to mush. But 
 despite my
 worst efforts this one seemed to work ...

 Heaven's 'Bone
 http://flic.kr/p/bDrnLe

 K20D, DA* 55 @ 1.4, 1/400th, ISO 1600. Lr.
 No flash was fired in the making of this image.

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Re: PESO: The Feminine

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Brian. And thanks to all who commented or had a look.


On Mar 17, 2012, at 2:28 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 
 Maiden Hair grass blooms in October, and the first hard freeze turns the 
 flower heads into lacy delights. Winter was mild this year and some of the 
 flowers remained beautifully intact until spring. Shot this one the other 
 day with the K-5 and 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. f8, 1/250th, ISO 800.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15365072size=lg
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 Very unusual (to me).  I don't think I've ever see grass flower heards like 
 that.
 
 A very attractive image - especially with that dark, contrasting background.
 
 
 
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Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-17 Thread Toralf Lund

On 3/15/12 17:07, Darren Addy wrote:

Before you answer: What if it was a Leica?
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-may-have-a-bw-sensor/
Since everyone seems to say no, I'll try yes. I might not want this 
as my only or regular camera, but I still think the idea is 
interesting. Yes, a colour sensor is probably more flexible in many ways 
even if you want to produce BW, but there are still some limitations to 
the options you have. You can't really select to have no filtering at 
all, or avoid having some of the pixel data filtered by the wrong 
filter... As long as you have a pattern sensor, I mean - the situation 
would be quite different if someone made a *really good* camera that 
would capture full colour at all sites...


And of course, everyone knows that shooting colour with a Leica is plain 
heresy. If they don't release a BW sensor, they should at least have a 
software limit, so that only different kinds of BW conversions would be 
allowed for the output data ;-)


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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's a very interesting and unusual image, despite the pretty girls.
 G  I like the way you dealt with the very bright areas ad the dark
areas, without totally losing anything.  Even the head of hair in the
lower left, while perhaps a bit distracting, adds depth to the scene
and implies more action than can be shown in the frame.
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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


 If I'm lucky, I too will outgrow my present fascination with imaging
 expressions of femininity. :-) Beware the siren call, Larry, lest you
 too start looking for suitable LBDs and Fendi heels. Unless it's for
 yourself. I understand that that's ok.

 I've got the sinking feeling that photos of pretty girls is a level of 
 mediocrity that I'm never going to rise above.
 As a matter of fact, I spent the evening tonight at the Santa Cruz Museum of 
 Art and History, and what did I end up taking photos of?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6989140377/

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Re: Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Funny. Actually, with film it was usually more appropriate to expose for the 
highlights and process for the shadows. Although that too is an 
oversimplification of the zone system.

On Mar 17, 2012, at 4:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I'm on another photo forum where someone posted a couple of pictures, asking 
 for advice on how to expose them properly.  He did use the flash for fill, 
 outside, with a compact digital point and shoot.  Once it was determined what 
 camera he was shooting with people stopped suggesting speedlights, and 
 concentrated more on things like, have the model (who is black by the way) 
 take off her baseball cap, and various suggestions for reflectors to use for 
 fill.  Then, today, someone posts:
 
 I just want to point you to Ansel Adams' Zone system. It's a great basic 
 theory of exposure that can be summed up with expose for the shadows and 
 develop for the highlights.
 
 
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OT: Spring finally comes to Canada

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://themetapicture.com/finally-spring-arrives-to-canada/

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Re: OT: Question about a MIDI keyboard and USB port

2012-03-17 Thread Carlos R.

El 17/03/2012 0:07, Cotty escribió:

On 16/3/12, Carlos R., discombobulated, unleashed:


I have seen that MIDI to USB
converter cables are easy to find, but knowing nothing about MIDI my
questions are: What more is needed for his intended purpose?


A Mac. End of.

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Thanks for your help, Cotty ;-)
Anyway, he bought an Asus notebook (very good, by the way), without 
asking me first. But now, seriously, being as he is a computer 
illiterate person, I would have told you to go for an Apple computer if 
he had asked for myu opinion before buying his laptop. He's hopeless at 
using the thing and an Apple would have easier for him to learn.


Carlos

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Re: OT: Question about a MIDI keyboard and USB port

2012-03-17 Thread Carlos R.

El 16/03/2012 20:14, steve harley escribió:

on 2012-03-16 6:56 Bruce Walker wrote

He might consider someday moving up to a keyboard with a USB connector
that supports MIDI over USB. Pretty much the modern standard. Look
around the M-Audio site.


there are several USB-based keyboards that are reasonable quality and
they are so inexpensive that buying a midi converter could be a waste
(unless the Casio keyboard he has is very good); M-Audio, Akai and a few
others make 2-octave keyboards for around $50, and 3+ octaves with a
somewhat better touch aren't much more (i haven't owned an electronic
keyboard for a while, but i've been planning to get one)

when i work with non-expert computer users (which i do on the side
professionally, and as a service to friends), i find keeping things
simple is key; this is especially true with older people who tend not to
practice enough to retain detailed procedures; to that end, a USB
(rather than Midi) keyboard means less wiring, and i expect Windows is
like OS X in that you could just plug in the USB keyboard, launch some
equivalent to GarageBand, and start playing ...



Thanks for you advice, Steve. In fact, I have also thought of the same 
solution, but first we'll try the MIDI to USB converter, which can be 
had quite inexpensively (about 10 euros) and if it doesn't work well 
enough, I think he'll go for the USB keyboard.


Carlos

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Re: OT: Spring finally comes to Canada

2012-03-17 Thread Jack Davis
Love it!
 
Jack


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http://themetapicture.com/finally-spring-arrives-to-canada/

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Re: OT: Spring finally comes to Canada

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Yup. :)

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://themetapicture.com/finally-spring-arrives-to-canada/

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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


 If I'm lucky, I too will outgrow my present fascination with imaging
 expressions of femininity. :-) Beware the siren call, Larry, lest you
 too start looking for suitable LBDs and Fendi heels. Unless it's for
 yourself. I understand that that's ok.

 I've got the sinking feeling that photos of pretty girls is a level of 
 mediocrity that I'm never going to rise above.
 As a matter of fact, I spent the evening tonight at the Santa Cruz Museum of 
 Art and History, and what did I end up taking photos of?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6989140377/

 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

That's a very bad sign, Larry, you old reprobate. :)

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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Dan. I try very hard to remove the pretty girl
distractions, really I do. :)

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a very interesting and unusual image, despite the pretty girls.
  G  I like the way you dealt with the very bright areas ad the dark
 areas, without totally losing anything.  Even the head of hair in the
 lower left, while perhaps a bit distracting, adds depth to the scene
 and implies more action than can be shown in the frame.
 Dan Matyola
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 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


 If I'm lucky, I too will outgrow my present fascination with imaging
 expressions of femininity. :-) Beware the siren call, Larry, lest you
 too start looking for suitable LBDs and Fendi heels. Unless it's for
 yourself. I understand that that's ok.

 I've got the sinking feeling that photos of pretty girls is a level of 
 mediocrity that I'm never going to rise above.
 As a matter of fact, I spent the evening tonight at the Santa Cruz Museum of 
 Art and History, and what did I end up taking photos of?

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6989140377/

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Re: GESO: Spring WIldflowers

2012-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
Well done Mark. All are super

Dave

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 I took a day off today and went down to the Dowagiac Woods in Cass County,
 MI, to see if the wildflowers were out. Usually there is nothing but
 harbinger of spring at this time of year, but I found a few sprigs of
 hepatica, much earlier than usual.

 So here is a handful of very early woodland wildflowers:

 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

 or

 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/early-spring-wildflowers

 I also shot a roll of Ilford SFX 120 in a Holga with a deep red filter
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Re: K7 and K20 AF adjustment

2012-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:


 My K-5 required minor adjustment. It's important if you use autofocus wide 
 open with a fast lens and want to make sure it's the eyeball, rather than the 
 eyelash, that is critically sharp.

I had three suspect lenses with my K-10D, the D FA 50, the 77 Ltd and
the FA 100 macto. Pentax adjusted the 50 for me, and never got around
to sending in the other two.
I did a non scientific test of those lenses on the k-5 and other than
the 100 macro seem ok. I feel my 100 macro is off slightly, juts does
not give the sharpness and pop as its apparently supposed to do. Need
to check it out soon.

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Re: PESO: The Feminine

2012-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
Thats very nice

Dave

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Maiden Hair grass blooms in October, and the first hard freeze turns the 
 flower heads into lacy delights. Winter was mild this year and some of the 
 flowers remained beautifully intact until spring. Shot this one the other day 
 with the K-5 and 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. f8, 1/250th, ISO 800.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15365072size=lg
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Re: Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Funny. Actually, with film it was usually more appropriate to expose for the 
 highlights and process for the shadows. Although that too is an 
 oversimplification of the zone system.

That depends on whether you're exposing on negative or positive
emulsions, Paul.

- On positives, you expose to capture the highlights. Process is only
modifiable in very small ways, you live with what the film gives you.
- On negatives, you expose to capture the shadows. Process is very
flexible to keep highlights from blocking up.

None of which has much to do with the Zone System at all, IMO.

The basis of the Zone System is to understand the recording medium and
the metering apparatus, break the tonal range into ten zones, use the
metering apparatus to find and locate the zones in a given scene, and
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Re: OT: Spring finally comes to Canada

2012-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
You seem surprised.:-)

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143



Dave

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 http://themetapicture.com/finally-spring-arrives-to-canada/

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Re: Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I'm on another photo forum where someone posted a couple of pictures, asking 
 for advice on how to expose them properly.  He did use the flash for fill, 
 outside, with a compact digital point and shoot.  Once it was determined what 
 camera he was shooting with people stopped suggesting speedlights, and 
 concentrated more on things like, have the model (who is black by the way) 
 take off her baseball cap, and various suggestions for reflectors to use for 
 fill.  Then, today, someone posts:

 I just want to point you to Ansel Adams' Zone system. It's a great basic 
 theory of exposure that can be summed up with expose for the shadows and 
 develop for the highlights.

Over-simplified, incomplete understanding of AA's Zone System practice.

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Re: OT: Spring finally comes to Canada

2012-03-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/17/2012 6:48 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://themetapicture.com/finally-spring-arrives-to-canada/

Dan Matyola
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So that's what real Canadians look like without real hats!

Fun shot, Dan! :)

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Re: PESO - Lost Found

2012-03-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/3/12, Matthew Hunt, discombobulated, unleashed:

On the way home from work today, I took back roads I didn't know, and
got lost on purpose. I found this:

http://stdw.us/Flickr-LnF

Very nice! I could do with some darker clouds and more contrast :)

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Re: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

2012-03-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/16/2012 10:22 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I was distracted and had had a beer and most of my shots turned to
mush. But despite my worst efforts this one seemed to work ...

Your photography is great, but you really need to work on your drinking.

That aside, this is a great shot! It makes me wish I'd been there.

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Re: PESO - Lost Found

2012-03-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

Very nice, Matthew!

I can easily see where that would bring a smile to your face as you went 
through the day's product.


-- Walt

On 3/16/2012 8:13 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On the way home from work today, I took back roads I didn't know, and
got lost on purpose. I found this:

http://stdw.us/Flickr-LnF

This is part of my project to shoot exclusively with the Pentax A
28/2.8 during Lent--giving up all my other lenses. I mentioned the
project at the beginning, but since we're halfway through, and I was
pretty happy with what I got today, I thought I would mention it
again. You can see more on my blog:

http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/

Or on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/

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Re: GESO: Spring WIldflowers

2012-03-17 Thread Mark C

On 3/16/2012 11:11 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-03-16 19:08 Mark C wrote
I took a day off today and went down to the Dowagiac Woods in Cass 
County, MI,
to see if the wildflowers were out. Usually there is nothing but 
harbinger of
spring at this time of year, but I found a few sprigs of hepatica, 
much earlier

than usual.

So here is a handful of very early woodland wildflowers:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php


those are interesting flowers that i don't see in Colorado (and that i 
don't recall from childhood in Maine or Kansas); while the context is 
part of what makes these interesting, the simplicity and nice bokeh is 
attractive, and it makes me want to traipse down to some wetlands 
along the South Platte River to see what's up


here in urban Denver (in the non-wild, my yard) i saw gazania and 
mallow in flower on 2 Jan, then we had the snowiest February on 
record, and now everything's a-burstin', bulbs especially, but all the 
shrubs are budding, phlox  violets  vinca are showing color, and 
townsendia are open, though the petals aren't fully developed; cats 
have found the first green on the catnip as well



Thanks, Steve. These are woodland wildflowers. They are found in wooded 
areas and bloom in the period of early spring when the soil has warmed 
but the trees are still leafless and direct sun hits the ground. In 
MIchigan you don't see them much in re-forested areas that were once 
farmed, but they are really abundant in areas that were never plowed up. 
The range map I looked at shows hepatica only in the eastern US.


Thanks for looking!

Mark

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Re: Spring WIldflowers

2012-03-17 Thread Mark C

Thanks, Kin, and thanks to everyone else who looked.

I should have commented that these were taken with the K-5 and DFA 100mm 
macro.


Mark

On 3/16/2012 10:33 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Very nice work as usual Mark.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
Subject: GESO: Spring WIldflowers


I took a day off today and went down to the Dowagiac Woods in Cass 
County, MI, to see if the wildflowers were out. Usually there is 
nothing but harbinger of spring at this time of year, but I found a 
few sprigs of hepatica, much earlier than usual.


So here is a handful of very early woodland wildflowers:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

or

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/early-spring-wildflowers 



I also shot a roll of Ilford SFX 120 in a Holga with a deep red 
filter smacked on it - the negs are hanging over my bathtub as I type 
this, and look promising.


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Re: Spring WIldflowers

2012-03-17 Thread Mark C

Thanks, Ken, and thanks to everyone else who looked.

I should have commented that these were taken with the K-5 and DFA 100mm 
macro.


Mark

On 3/16/2012 10:33 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Very nice work as usual Mark.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
Subject: GESO: Spring WIldflowers


I took a day off today and went down to the Dowagiac Woods in Cass 
County, MI, to see if the wildflowers were out. Usually there is 
nothing but harbinger of spring at this time of year, but I found a 
few sprigs of hepatica, much earlier than usual.


So here is a handful of very early woodland wildflowers:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

or

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/early-spring-wildflowers 



I also shot a roll of Ilford SFX 120 in a Holga with a deep red 
filter smacked on it - the negs are hanging over my bathtub as I type 
this, and look promising.


- MCC






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Re: GESO: Spring WIldflowers

2012-03-17 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Bob - I only saw a couple dozen springs yesterday in a woods 
that ultimately will be carpeted with hepatica. SO - they are just 
getting started. But usually there would still be snow in the low lying 
areas this time of year an no flowers at all...


Mark

On 3/16/2012 9:59 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Love those Mark.  I've got to get out there before all the warm
weather makes them pass.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Mark Cpdml-m...@charter.net  wrote:

I took a day off today and went down to the Dowagiac Woods in Cass County,
MI, to see if the wildflowers were out. Usually there is nothing but
harbinger of spring at this time of year, but I found a few sprigs of
hepatica, much earlier than usual.

So here is a handful of very early woodland wildflowers:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

or

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/early-spring-wildflowers

I also shot a roll of Ilford SFX 120 in a Holga with a deep red filter
smacked on it - the negs are hanging over my bathtub as I type this, and
look promising.

- MCC

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Re: PESO Heaven's 'Bone

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/16/2012 10:22 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 I was distracted and had had a beer and most of my shots turned to
 mush. But despite my worst efforts this one seemed to work ...

 Your photography is great, but you really need to work on your drinking.

 That aside, this is a great shot! It makes me wish I'd been there.

 -- Walt

Thanks, Walt! :-)

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Re: PESO - Lost Found

2012-03-17 Thread Mark C

On 3/16/2012 9:13 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On the way home from work today, I took back roads I didn't know, and
got lost on purpose. I found this:

http://stdw.us/Flickr-LnF

This is part of my project to shoot exclusively with the Pentax A
28/2.8 during Lent--giving up all my other lenses. I mentioned the
project at the beginning, but since we're halfway through, and I was
pretty happy with what I got today, I thought I would mention it
again. You can see more on my blog:

http://scotchtape.ductwhisky.com/

Or on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/

Comments and criticism are always welcome.

The sun rays are really nice, though the windmill on your blog is cool 
as well. Looks like a great big peace symbol.


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RE: Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Godfrey DiGiorgi
 
 The basis of the Zone System is to understand the recording medium and
 the metering apparatus, break the tonal range into ten zones, use the
 metering apparatus to find and locate the zones in a given scene, and
 make exposures with a plan as to how to achieve what tonal mapping you
 want through both the exposure you make and subsequent processing
 operations.
 

You forgot the beard. You're not allowed to use the Zone System unless you
have a beard, and then it's compulsory. Never trust a photographer with a
beard, that's what I say. Especially the men.

B


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Lightroom, how to move many RAW files to another disk

2012-03-17 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi all,

A question for the Lightroom experts on the list ...

I have been collecting all my RAW files from the last 5 or 6 years into 
Lightroom,
and am getting to the point where the internal disk (750Gb) of the iMAC is 
getting
to full for comfort.

So because of that, and to gain some extra speed as well I hope, I got myself
a fast 2Tb external drive, connected through Firewire-800.

I would like to move ALL the actual images to that new drive, and keep the
Lightroom catalog (and its previews) on the internal disk.

What is the easiest way to accomplish that ?

All images are under a single directory on my data volume, say:

/MerlinData/foto

There are 33000 images, totalling almost 400Gb in size.

Since I want to keep them on the internal drive too for now (as a backup)
I want to copy the whole tree to the new drive OUTSIDE of Lightroom.
Then in Lightroom, in its folder pane in Library, use Update Folder 
Location...
to have it point to the new location on the other disk.

Is that a good way to do this ?
Any gothcha's, or better ways ?


FYI, this is Lightroom 3.6, to be upgraded to 4.0 sometime next week.


TIA for any hints and tips, JvW


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Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-17 Thread Jens
For event oriented snapshots I usually go for black and white only.
If it meant that it was faster and had better low-light quality, i might 
consider a black and white digital.

When using my Lumix LX3, and I have set it to black and white, I found out, 
that the RAW files are still color files! 
This is not so great. I want the RAW files black and white too.

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On Mar 17, 2012 12:37 Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:
 On 3/15/12 17:07, Darren Addy wrote:
  Before you answer: What if it was a Leica?
  http://www.petapixel.com/2012/03/15/leicas-upcoming-m-series-camera-
  may-have-a-bw-sensor/
 Since everyone seems to say no, I'll try yes. I might not want
 this 
 as my only or regular camera, but I still think the idea is 
 interesting. Yes, a colour sensor is probably more flexible in many
 ways 
 even if you want to produce BW, but there are still some limitations
 to 
 the options you have. You can't really select to have no filtering at
 all, or avoid having some of the pixel data filtered by the wrong 
 filter... As long as you have a pattern sensor, I mean - the
 situation 
 would be quite different if someone made a *really good* camera that 
 would capture full colour at all sites...
 
 And of course, everyone knows that shooting colour with a Leica is
 plain 
 heresy. If they don't release a BW sensor, they should at least have
 a 
 software limit, so that only different kinds of BW conversions would
 be 
 allowed for the output data ;-)
 
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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I guess I'm a fan of studio photography. Just don't have the money to
 build the studio. And even if I had the money, I don't have the space.

John, I don't have a studio, nor space for one, but I don't let that
stop me. I have two hotshoe flashes, although I mostly use one and a
cheap convertible reflector. I don't have a background stand, I just
use a white wall. If I need a black background, I just position the
subject in a doorway to put a dark hallway behind them. If I need a
blown-out white background, that's what the 2nd flash is for.

If you buy stuff from Fancierstudio on Amazon, $50 will get you a
couple of stands and umbrellas. Get one or two Vivitar flashes, put
'em on manual and you're good to go. Pick up one of the cheapie
wireless triggers, and slave any additional flash(es) to the triggered
one. (Since I got Pentax flashes, I use the optical triggering, but
I'm starting to reconsider radio now.)

Then there's the use somebody else's studio approach. I have
partnered with a guy who has an extensive studio in his print-biz
shop. I trade work for time. In that pinup shoot I did, I did all the
up-front design work, a lot of organizing legwork (getting props,
models) and in total that shoot cost me $15 for my share of lunch.
Everyone there was working on a TF (trade-for) basis.

And for workshops all you need to bring is your camera and lenses. The
cost is higher, of course, but still quite affordable and a great
learning experience. And you get to work with agency models and
higher-end lighting.

Go for it John. Stretch a bit. Treat yourself. :-)

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PESO - Waiting

2012-03-17 Thread frank theriault
Was she stood up?  Was she waiting for someone in the cafe who has
forgotten about her?

I'm not sure what she was waiting for, but she didn't look happy:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/waiting.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-17 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote:

 When using my Lumix LX3, and I have set it to black and white, I found out, 
 that the RAW files are still color files!
 This is not so great. I want the RAW files black and white too.

That's not physically possible. The raw files contain the raw sensor
data. That's one intensity value per pixel. But that value corresponds
to either red, green, or blue intensity, due to the Bayer color filter
sitting above the pixel. The color filters are physical things that
are sitting on (or near) the surface of the sensor; they don't
disappear just because you want to shoot in BW.

When you look at a raw file on your computer screen, you're not
actually looking at the raw data. You're looking at the output of a
raw processor (Lightroom or whatever) that has used the differently
filtered pixels to reconstruct the color in the scene. (This is the
demosaicing step of raw processing.)

You *could* see the raw data without demosaicing if you used a
processor like the command-line dcraw tool that lets you skip
demosaicing. But it wouldn't be what you want. Again, because of the
Bayer filter array, what you'd have in a blue sky is one out of every
four pixels bright (the one that's under a blue filter) while the
other three out of four would be dark (the pixels under the red and
green filters). That's not a photographically desirable representation
of the sky. That's why your raw processor reconstructs the color
information, then lets you filter the colors (to approximate shooting
with a yellow filter, or whatever you'd like, in order to brighten up
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downside, as others have mentioned, is that you wouldn't be able to do
the filtering in processing as you can now.

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Re: PESO - Waiting

2012-03-17 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent mood here Frank

Dave

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Was she stood up?  Was she waiting for someone in the cafe who has
 forgotten about her?

 I'm not sure what she was waiting for, but she didn't look happy:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/waiting.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I'm on another photo forum where someone posted a couple of pictures, asking 
 for advice on how to expose them properly.  He did use the flash for fill, 
 outside, with a compact digital point and shoot.  Once it was determined 
 what camera he was shooting with people stopped suggesting speedlights, and 
 concentrated more on things like, have the model (who is black by the way) 
 take off her baseball cap, and various suggestions for reflectors to use for 
 fill.  Then, today, someone posts:
 
 I just want to point you to Ansel Adams' Zone system. It's a great basic 
 theory of exposure that can be summed up with expose for the shadows and 
 develop for the highlights.
 
 Over-simplified, incomplete understanding of AA's Zone System practice.

And developing for the highlights is probably not very applicable to a digital 
point and shoot, as most people using them probably don't develop  their own 
film.

 
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Re: Would a BW ONLY digital camera appeal to you?

2012-03-17 Thread Mark Roberts
It has occurred to me that one of the stupid things about making a
digital camera with a black-and-white-only sensor would be that it
would be like buying a film camera that would only work with one kind
of film. OK, you could have different sensitivity settings, but BW
films had their own sensitivity curves and reacted differently to red,
green and blue light. You could change things with filters, of course,
but those are not nearly flexible/versatile to make one film emulate
the RGB sensitivity curves of another.

In a digital camera you can emulate the looks of different BW films
to some extent by working with the individual RGB curves during raw
processing, but the sensor has to capture individual RGB data in the
first place - a BW-only sensor wouldn't permit this so you'd be
locked into one look forever. If Leica were to make a BW-only
camera, one way around this would be to use a color sensor and
implement the BW limitation in software. That seems a bit silly (not
that some people wouldn't buy it anyway).

If the Leica rumor turns out to be real, perhaps they are implementing
the BW-only limitation in software but using the kind of sensor Kodak
announced a few years ago with a non-Bayer pattern that sacrifices
some color sensitivity for greater luminance sensitivity . Here's the
DP Review article about it:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2007/6/14/kodakhighsens

 
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Re: Lightroom, how to move many RAW files to another disk

2012-03-17 Thread David Parsons
You can do it outside of LR like you suggest, or you can do it in LR
in the folders panel.  If you do it in LR, it will move the files, not
copy them.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 A question for the Lightroom experts on the list ...

 I have been collecting all my RAW files from the last 5 or 6 years into 
 Lightroom,
 and am getting to the point where the internal disk (750Gb) of the iMAC is 
 getting
 to full for comfort.

 So because of that, and to gain some extra speed as well I hope, I got myself
 a fast 2Tb external drive, connected through Firewire-800.

 I would like to move ALL the actual images to that new drive, and keep the
 Lightroom catalog (and its previews) on the internal disk.

 What is the easiest way to accomplish that ?

 All images are under a single directory on my data volume, say:

        /MerlinData/foto

 There are 33000 images, totalling almost 400Gb in size.

 Since I want to keep them on the internal drive too for now (as a backup)
 I want to copy the whole tree to the new drive OUTSIDE of Lightroom.
 Then in Lightroom, in its folder pane in Library, use Update Folder 
 Location...
 to have it point to the new location on the other disk.

 Is that a good way to do this ?
 Any gothcha's, or better ways ?


 FYI, this is Lightroom 3.6, to be upgraded to 4.0 sometime next week.


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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 17, 2012, at 4:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 That's a very interesting and unusual image, despite the pretty girls.
 G  I like the way you dealt with the very bright areas ad the dark
 areas, without totally losing anything.  Even the head of hair in the
 lower left, while perhaps a bit distracting, adds depth to the scene
 and implies more action than can be shown in the frame.

Thanks Dan.  I used a little more technique than spray and pray but not much. 
 As with fire dancers, this is one case where I use the autoexposure with the 
AF540.  I just expose for the lights, and fill with the flash.  I bumped the 
ISO up to 800 so I could bounce the flash and not get too beaten up too bad by 
inverse square blowing out the people in the foreground.

The composition may have been purely luck, as I took a lot of the shots with 
the camera over my head so I could get a clear shot past the crowds watching.  
But, as has been discussed, I'm still immature enough in my photographic 
development that I still consider pretty girls to be a feature, rather than a 
bug.

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 
 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 
 If I'm lucky, I too will outgrow my present fascination with imaging
 expressions of femininity. :-) Beware the siren call, Larry, lest you
 too start looking for suitable LBDs and Fendi heels. Unless it's for
 yourself. I understand that that's ok.
 
 I've got the sinking feeling that photos of pretty girls is a level of 
 mediocrity that I'm never going to rise above.
 As a matter of fact, I spent the evening tonight at the Santa Cruz Museum of 
 Art and History, and what did I end up taking photos of?
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6989140377/
 
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Re: PESO - Short Order

2012-03-17 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Ann and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
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Sent: March 16, 2012 3/16/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Short Order

reminds me I didn't have breakfast yet...

yeah - that's a nice journalistic grab - you know, like all your stuff :-)

a


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 Hope you enjoy:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/03/short-order.html

 Comments always welcome.

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RE: GESO: Spring WIldflowers

2012-03-17 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Those are really beautiful, Mark. The bokeh is just lovely.

cheers,
frank

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From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net
Sent: March 16, 2012 3/16/12
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Subject: GESO: Spring WIldflowers

I took a day off today and went down to the Dowagiac Woods in Cass 
County, MI, to see if the wildflowers were out. Usually there is nothing 
but harbinger of spring at this time of year, but I found a few sprigs 
of hepatica, much earlier than usual.

So here is a handful of very early woodland wildflowers:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php

or

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/early-spring-wildflowers

I also shot a roll of Ilford SFX 120 in a Holga with a deep red filter 
smacked on it - the negs are hanging over my bathtub as I type this, and 
look promising.

- MCC

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RE: Peso SS#2 Scugog

2012-03-17 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Girls and Boys entrances. Love it!

Prefer the black and white - seems appropriate for the era the school was built.

Very good photo.

Cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Sent: March 17, 2012 3/17/12
To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
Subject: Peso SS#2 Scugog

Went to port Perry over the march break to throw away $200 at the
slots, well actually I did, Liz won several hundred.

Any way, noticed this old 1927 school house at Island Road and
Stephenson point road.:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15369512

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15369516

K-5 D FA 50 f2.8 at f 6.3 ISO 160

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Re: PESO - Waiting

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
This is great, Frank. What I see very strongly is the image split
between the right-hand 1/3rd: warm, busy, safe, and the left 2/3rds:
shabby, cold, lonely.

Good one!

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was she stood up?  Was she waiting for someone in the cafe who has
 forgotten about her?

 I'm not sure what she was waiting for, but she didn't look happy:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/waiting.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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RE: PESO: The Feminine

2012-03-17 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I'm glad I looked at your photo for two reasons:

First, I didn't know what that was called. We have loads of it around here; now 
I can give it a name.

Second, beautiful photo by you. The light is lovely and you did a great job on 
the background.

Thanks!

cheers,
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From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Sent: March 16, 2012 3/16/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The Feminine

Maiden Hair grass blooms in October, and the first hard freeze turns the flower 
heads into lacy delights. Winter was mild this year and some of the flowers 
remained beautifully intact until spring. Shot this one the other day with the 
K-5 and 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. f8, 1/250th, ISO 800.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15365072size=lg
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Re: PESO - Waiting

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice. Just enough of her face is revealed to capture her mood. The wide view 
gives it a location and interest.
Paul
On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:58 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 Was she stood up?  Was she waiting for someone in the cafe who has
 forgotten about her?
 
 I'm not sure what she was waiting for, but she didn't look happy:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/waiting.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
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Re: Lightroom, how to move many RAW files to another disk

2012-03-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That will work just fine. It's better to move a LARGE number of files
this way, rather than from inside Lightroom in the Folders panel.

Just be sure that you use the function to Show Parent Folder until
the root of the photos' directory tree is visible in the Folders panel
so that you can reassign all of the image file locations in one
action.

G

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Jan van Wijk pen...@dfsee.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 A question for the Lightroom experts on the list ...

 I have been collecting all my RAW files from the last 5 or 6 years into 
 Lightroom,
 and am getting to the point where the internal disk (750Gb) of the iMAC is 
 getting
 to full for comfort.

 So because of that, and to gain some extra speed as well I hope, I got myself
 a fast 2Tb external drive, connected through Firewire-800.

 I would like to move ALL the actual images to that new drive, and keep the
 Lightroom catalog (and its previews) on the internal disk.

 What is the easiest way to accomplish that ?

 All images are under a single directory on my data volume, say:

        /MerlinData/foto

 There are 33000 images, totalling almost 400Gb in size.

 Since I want to keep them on the internal drive too for now (as a backup)
 I want to copy the whole tree to the new drive OUTSIDE of Lightroom.
 Then in Lightroom, in its folder pane in Library, use Update Folder 
 Location...
 to have it point to the new location on the other disk.

 Is that a good way to do this ?
 Any gothcha's, or better ways ?


 FYI, this is Lightroom 3.6, to be upgraded to 4.0 sometime next week.


 TIA for any hints and tips, JvW


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Re: Peso SS#2 Scugog

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
A classic bit of the past, nicely rendered. I might crop in tighter on the 
right. I think I prefer the color as shown. Brighter midtones in the BW might 
change my mind.
Paul

On Mar 17, 2012, at 11:12 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Went to port Perry over the march break to throw away $200 at the
 slots, well actually I did, Liz won several hundred.
 
 Any way, noticed this old 1927 school house at Island Road and
 Stephenson point road.:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15369512
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15369516
 
 K-5 D FA 50 f2.8 at f 6.3 ISO 160
 
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Re: Lightroom, how to move many RAW files to another disk

2012-03-17 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:30:20 -0700 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

That will work just fine. It's better to move a LARGE number of files
this way, rather than from inside Lightroom in the Folders panel.

OK, thanks Godfrey.
I expected as much, and I'd rather COPY than really MOVE

Just be sure that you use the function to Show Parent Folder until
the root of the photos' directory tree is visible in the Folders panel
so that you can reassign all of the image file locations in one
action.

Yes, I had already done so, just to make sure everything 
was rooted in the same spot, and it was.

Good to go, just waiting for the full-backup to complete first.

Thanks, JvW


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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I like this one :-)

20120316-LRC42537.jpg

ann

On 3/17/2012 12:36, Larry Colen wrote:


On Mar 17, 2012, at 4:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


That's a very interesting and unusual image, despite the pretty girls.
G   I like the way you dealt with the very bright areas ad the dark
areas, without totally losing anything.  Even the head of hair in the
lower left, while perhaps a bit distracting, adds depth to the scene
and implies more action than can be shown in the frame.


Thanks Dan.  I used a little more technique than spray and pray but not much. 
 As with fire dancers, this is one case where I use the autoexposure with the AF540.  I 
just expose for the lights, and fill with the flash.  I bumped the ISO up to 800 so I 
could bounce the flash and not get too beaten up too bad by inverse square blowing out 
the people in the foreground.

The composition may have been purely luck, as I took a lot of the shots with 
the camera over my head so I could get a clear shot past the crowds watching.  
But, as has been discussed, I'm still immature enough in my photographic 
development that I still consider pretty girls to be a feature, rather than a 
bug.


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Larry Colenl...@red4est.com  wrote:


On Mar 16, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:



If I'm lucky, I too will outgrow my present fascination with imaging
expressions of femininity. :-) Beware the siren call, Larry, lest you
too start looking for suitable LBDs and Fendi heels. Unless it's for
yourself. I understand that that's ok.


I've got the sinking feeling that photos of pretty girls is a level of 
mediocrity that I'm never going to rise above.
As a matter of fact, I spent the evening tonight at the Santa Cruz Museum of 
Art and History, and what did I end up taking photos of?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6989140377/

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Re: Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread kwaller
Hard to imagine anyone with a compact digital point and shoot would be 
inclined to delve into Adam's zone system.


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- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com

Subject: Amazing advice


I'm on another photo forum where someone posted a couple of pictures, 
asking for advice on how to expose them properly.  He did use the flash 
for fill, outside, with a compact digital point and shoot.  Once it was 
determined what camera he was shooting with people stopped suggesting 
speedlights, and concentrated more on things like, have the model (who is 
black by the way) take off her baseball cap, and various suggestions for 
reflectors to use for fill.  Then, today, someone posts:


I just want to point you to Ansel Adams' Zone system. It's a great basic 
theory of exposure that can be summed up with expose for the shadows and 
develop for the highlights.



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Re: OT: Happy Pi Day

2012-03-17 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:


3/14 is Pi Day!  http://www.piday.org/




But, but, but.

3/14 only works in those parts of the world where the date is in  
mm/dd/ format.


If you're in a dd/mm/ part of the world, Pi Day doesn't (or  
shouldn't) exist, unless there's a 14th month out there I haven't  
heard about


:-)





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RE: OT: Happy Pi Day

2012-03-17 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Brian Walters
 But, but, but.
 
 3/14 only works in those parts of the world where the date is in
 mm/dd/ format.
 
 If you're in a dd/mm/ part of the world, Pi Day doesn't (or
 shouldn't) exist, unless there's a 14th month out there I haven't heard
 about
 
 :-)
 

Ethiopia has 13 months.

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Re: GESO - Magnum Contacts

2012-03-17 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:




Popped into the curator talk at Stills Gallery tonight for the  
Magnum Contacts show. Beautiful presentation, and the talk was  
funny, informative and charming. Highly recommended if you are in  
Sydney for the next week.


Bonus, there are some gob smacking huge Trent Parke prints on the  
other side of the gallery, itself worth a visit


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_magnumcontact/index.htm





Damn - looks as if I won't be able to get to see that.  Then again,  
I'm not sure I'd want to be in the same room with that many Margaret  
Thatchers.




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RE: OT: Happy Pi Day

2012-03-17 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com:


From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Brian Walters
But, but, but.

3/14 only works in those parts of the world where the date is in
mm/dd/ format.

If you're in a dd/mm/ part of the world, Pi Day doesn't (or
shouldn't) exist, unless there's a 14th month out there I haven't heard
about

:-)



Ethiopia has 13 months.




So they don't get Pi Day either




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Re: PESO - Waiting

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That image conveys a strong sense of her isolation amidst a busy city.
 Well done, Frank
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 Was she stood up?  Was she waiting for someone in the cafe who has
 forgotten about her?

 I'm not sure what she was waiting for, but she didn't look happy:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/waiting.html

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Re: Peso SS#2 Scugog

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the color version.  That looks like my old elementary scholl,
down to the separate entrances for girls and boys.  Well seen and
captured.
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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:12 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Went to port Perry over the march break to throw away $200 at the
 slots, well actually I did, Liz won several hundred.

 Any way, noticed this old 1927 school house at Island Road and
 Stephenson point road.:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15369512

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15369516

 K-5 D FA 50 f2.8 at f 6.3 ISO 160

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Re: Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread Bulent Celasun
To develop the film/file; they need to shoot raw, I believe.
The jpeg (the output of most, if not all, PS cameras) is already
cooked/developed; much like a print (on screen)...

Isn't that so?

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 Hard to imagine anyone with a compact digital point and shoot would be
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 - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com
 Subject: Amazing advice



 I'm on another photo forum where someone posted a couple of pictures,
 asking for advice on how to expose them properly.  He did use the flash for
 fill, outside, with a compact digital point and shoot.  Once it was
 determined what camera he was shooting with people stopped suggesting
 speedlights, and concentrated more on things like, have the model (who is
 black by the way) take off her baseball cap, and various suggestions for
 reflectors to use for fill.  Then, today, someone posts:

 I just want to point you to Ansel Adams' Zone system. It's a great basic
 theory of exposure that can be summed up with expose for the shadows and
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Re: PESO - Lost Found

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The size of the clouds towering over the trees, and the rays of
sunlight breaking though make this a very effective image.

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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 16/3/12, Matthew Hunt, discombobulated, unleashed:

On the way home from work today, I took back roads I didn't know, and
got lost on purpose. I found this:

http://stdw.us/Flickr-LnF

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Amazing advice

2012-03-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


I'm on another photo forum where someone posted a couple of pictures,
asking for advice on how to expose them properly.  He did use the
flash for fill, outside, with a compact digital point and shoot.
Once it was determined what camera he was shooting with people
stopped suggesting speedlights, and concentrated more on things like,
have the model (who is black by the way) take off her baseball cap,
and various suggestions for reflectors to use for fill.  Then, today,
someone posts:

I just want to point you to Ansel Adams' Zone system. It's a great
basic theory of exposure that can be summed up with expose for the
shadows and develop for the highlights.


One of the classes I was in at the convention, the presenter said you 
can basically map the histogram to the zone system. It was unfortunately 
one of the things that came up BEFORE I figured out I could just 
photograph the powerpoint slides, so he had gone on to the next slide 
before I got the whole correlation written down in my notes.


But, what I did get:

Zero on the histogram is 0 on the Zone system,
026 is Zone I,
128 is zone V,
255 is zone X.
Shoot to place the wedding gown in Zone IX, Caucasian skin in Zone VI or 
VII


It was, of course, a wedding photography presentation. He had some other 
good stuff I think I can use, because he made it very simple.


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PESO: Windows Reflecting Sunset

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15371918

Comments are invited.

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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bruce Walker


On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I guess I'm a fan of studio photography. Just don't have the money to
build the studio. And even if I had the money, I don't have the space.

John, I don't have a studio, nor space for one, but I don't let that
stop me. I have two hotshoe flashes, although I mostly use one and a
cheap convertible reflector. I don't have a background stand, I just
use a white wall. If I need a black background, I just position the
subject in a doorway to put a dark hallway behind them. If I need a
blown-out white background, that's what the 2nd flash is for.

If you buy stuff from Fancierstudio on Amazon, $50 will get you a
couple of stands and umbrellas. Get one or two Vivitar flashes, put
'em on manual and you're good to go. Pick up one of the cheapie
wireless triggers, and slave any additional flash(es) to the triggered
one. (Since I got Pentax flashes, I use the optical triggering, but
I'm starting to reconsider radio now.)

Then there's the use somebody else's studio approach. I have
partnered with a guy who has an extensive studio in his print-biz
shop. I trade work for time. In that pinup shoot I did, I did all the
up-front design work, a lot of organizing legwork (getting props,
models) and in total that shoot cost me $15 for my share of lunch.
Everyone there was working on a TF (trade-for) basis.

And for workshops all you need to bring is your camera and lenses. The
cost is higher, of course, but still quite affordable and a great
learning experience. And you get to work with agency models and
higher-end lighting.

Go for it John. Stretch a bit. Treat yourself.


I've got the lights, stands, background cloths ... what I don't have 
right now is a physical space to set them up. I'm currently looking for 
someone in my area to partner with who has space  needs equipment.


I know one photographer who has expressed an interest, but she's even 
crazier than my EX-wife  I just don't want to get involved.


I've got a set of plans for a free-standing 2-car garage that I could 
build out in the back of my lot. But I don't have money right now to 
build it. Plus it's going to require a lot of cosmetic work on the house 
before I will feel that I can bring prospective clients to my 
prospective backyard studio - which is what I work on right now since I 
don't have any paying work at present.


In the mean time, spring is sprung  I've got several public gardens I 
can use, and I'm looking at offering on location studio photography - 
set it up at the client's house.


But, first I gotta find some work if I'm going to afford anything.

I *am* looking.

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Re: PESO: Windows Reflecting Sunset

2012-03-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
That's a pretty dramatic shot Dan.
I'm not sure if I could have figured it out without your hint.
I would have guessed a fireball inside the place.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO: Windows Reflecting Sunset

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob.

I sent it to a friend with the title Fiery Windows, and he asked me
how the fine started, so I decided I should change the title.  G

I was reading a book of images and advice by various photographers,
and one said the thing he always tries to remember is to turn around.
Often, when you are someplace for a certain shot, there is another one
lurking around the corner, if you take of the blinders and look
around, in directions other than the planned one.  I did exactly that
here.  I was photographing the sun setting into the Pacific, and it
was indeed a nice sunset, with a lot of red and yellow colors.  I
turned around to look at the others watching and photographing the
sunset, and noticed a glare across the street.  I ran up the hill a
bit, and say these windows full of the color of the sunset behind me,
so I grabbed this image before finishing my planned shoot of the sun
and the ocean and the clouds.

Dan.

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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a pretty dramatic shot Dan.
 I'm not sure if I could have figured it out without your hint.
 I would have guessed a fireball inside the place.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15371918

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Re: PESO: Windows Reflecting Sunset

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like the warm and dramatic colour in that Dan.

But as a shot it doesn't do it for me because it seems to have lost
too much detail and contrast due to that high ISO. With all the colour
noise, it has that crop-from-a-PS overall look.


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Re: GESO Letting loose

2012-03-17 Thread Derby Chang

On 17/03/2012 12:27 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
We have a special way of complaining here on the PDML, we simply 
ignore the offending post and move on, leaving the perp to wonder if 
their message even went out. Such is the fate of cats, dogs, many 
flower macros ... and pretty girls. I gather that in the larger 
photography world, and what is the PDML but a microcosm of it, cats, 
flowers and pretty girls are phases of development that you are 
allowed to dabble in, if you must, then outgrow. That is if you are 
Serious About Photography. Landscapes and street are among the few 
truly honourable destinations. Aberrant photogs like Irving Penn, 
Richard Avedon, Lillian Bassman, Sam Haskins: all sad cases. Just 
think what they could have done if they hadn't gotten stuck at the 
pretty girls in frou-frou gowns stage. Or in Sam's case, nothing at 
all. Edward Steichen, that turncoat. Worst one of all; was progressing 
just fine, then suddenly abandoned all that was good and returned to 
frock-shots. We'll allow Edward Weston his foibles. At least he was 
making pretty girls resemble conch shells, and vice versa. If I'm 
lucky, I too will outgrow my present fascination with imaging 
expressions of femininity. :-) Beware the siren call, Larry, lest you 
too start looking for suitable LBDs and Fendi heels. Unless it's for 
yourself. I understand that that's ok. 



Har.

Don't go changin', Bruce.

I know you were being entertaining, but personally, I wouldn't mind 
seeing more studio work on this list. And more of your hair shoot of course


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GESO - fishie

2012-03-17 Thread Derby Chang



Some street stuff from yesterday with the fishie. Don't think I'll be 
using it too often, and not just because its gimmicky. It's so wide, 
even when I'm practically on top of them, it looks like I'm shooting 
from across the street. Fun though.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_fisheye/index.htm

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Re: PESO: Windows Reflecting Sunset

2012-03-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
I'll have to remember your advice.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Bob.

 I sent it to a friend with the title Fiery Windows, and he asked me
 how the fine started, so I decided I should change the title.  G

 I was reading a book of images and advice by various photographers,
 and one said the thing he always tries to remember is to turn around.
 Often, when you are someplace for a certain shot, there is another one
 lurking around the corner, if you take of the blinders and look
 around, in directions other than the planned one.  I did exactly that
 here.  I was photographing the sun setting into the Pacific, and it
 was indeed a nice sunset, with a lot of red and yellow colors.  I
 turned around to look at the others watching and photographing the
 sunset, and noticed a glare across the street.  I ran up the hill a
 bit, and say these windows full of the color of the sunset behind me,
 so I grabbed this image before finishing my planned shoot of the sun
 and the ocean and the clouds.

 Dan.

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 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a pretty dramatic shot Dan.
 I'm not sure if I could have figured it out without your hint.
 I would have guessed a fireball inside the place.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15371918

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Re: OT: Happy Pi Day

2012-03-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
 If you're in a dd/mm/ part of the world, Pi Day doesn't (or
shouldn't) exist, unless there's a 14th month out there I haven't
heard about

That alone is a reason to switch.


On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:

 3/14 is Pi Day!  http://www.piday.org/



 But, but, but.

 3/14 only works in those parts of the world where the date is in mm/dd/
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 If you're in a dd/mm/ part of the world, Pi Day doesn't (or shouldn't)
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Re: GESO - fishie

2012-03-17 Thread Bruce Walker
That's a fun set, Derby. I really like the colourful grid of darts (or
whatever that is!), and not just because it's uncontaminated by female
pulchritude. :-)


On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Some street stuff from yesterday with the fishie. Don't think I'll be
 using it too often, and not just because its gimmicky. It's so wide, even
 when I'm practically on top of them, it looks like I'm shooting from across
 the street. Fun though.

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2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Paul, I mentioned before that I had similar ornamental grass, but that
it was not as attractive as usual because it was beaten, broken and
bent over by an unexpected October snow storm.  Today, I was cleaning
up the patio, and cutting away the dead grasses.  I came across a few
heads that were passable, although not as nice as last year.  Neither
my flower heads nor my images are as good as yours, but here they are
for comparison:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15372573

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15372574

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Maiden Hair grass blooms in October, and the first hard freeze turns the 
 flower heads into lacy delights. Winter was mild this year and some of the 
 flowers remained beautifully intact until spring. Shot this one the other day 
 with the K-5 and 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. f8, 1/250th, ISO 800.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15365072size=lg
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RE: GESO - fishie

2012-03-17 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Like the set a great deal. The purse in the darts is really cool, perfectly 
suited for a fisheye. My have, however is the last one. Don't know why, it just 
is.

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
Sent: March 17, 2012 3/17/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO - fishie



Some street stuff from yesterday with the fishie. Don't think I'll be 
using it too often, and not just because its gimmicky. It's so wide, 
even when I'm practically on top of them, it looks like I'm shooting 
from across the street. Fun though.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_fisheye/index.htm

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Re: GESO - fishie

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice gallery, Derby.  The people shots are quite interesting, and
number 7, whatever it is, has great color and patterns.  I enjoyed
them all.
Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 Some street stuff from yesterday with the fishie. Don't think I'll be using
 it too often, and not just because its gimmicky. It's so wide, even when I'm
 practically on top of them, it looks like I'm shooting from across the
 street. Fun though.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_fisheye/index.htm

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Re: PESO: Windows Reflecting Sunset

2012-03-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bruce and Bob.

Yes, Bruce, the color noise is annoying, but for some reason I like it
anyway.  Probably because when I look at it, my mind's eye sees the
original scene, rather than the image with all its drawbacks.

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On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I really like the warm and dramatic colour in that Dan.

 But as a shot it doesn't do it for me because it seems to have lost
 too much detail and contrast due to that high ISO. With all the colour
 noise, it has that crop-from-a-PS overall look.


 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15371918

 Comments are invited.

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RE: GESO - fishie

2012-03-17 Thread JC O'Connell
were they all shot at 10mm setting?

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Some street stuff from yesterday with the fishie. Don't think I'll be 
using it too often, and not just because its gimmicky. It's so wide, 
even when I'm practically on top of them, it looks like I'm shooting 
from across the street. Fun though.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_fisheye/index.htm

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Re: GESO - fishie

2012-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like these quite a lot. Some nice compositions and interesting subjects. On 
my very rare street-shooting forays with a super wide, I've found that I can 
sometimes make it appear that I'm shooting something in the background, which 
makes the closeness more comfortable. 
Paul
On Mar 17, 2012, at 8:08 PM, JC O'Connell wrote:

 were they all shot at 10mm setting?
 
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 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:14 PM
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 Subject: GESO - fishie
 
 
 
 Some street stuff from yesterday with the fishie. Don't think I'll be 
 using it too often, and not just because its gimmicky. It's so wide, 
 even when I'm practically on top of them, it looks like I'm shooting 
 from across the street. Fun though.
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_fisheye/index.htm
 
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Re: 2005

2012-03-17 Thread Rick Womer
Things sure =do= change.  I've gone from a 50-roll-per-year Ektachrome habit to 
a 50-coulomb-per-year digital habit.

If somebody stops producing electricity, what will I do?

Rick

 
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Subject: 2005

In going through the PDML Quotation List archive a few minutes ago to
find Bob Blakely's Andy Warhol quip I was struck by the fact that
2005 was a pretty good year for the List (though, truth to be told, I
didn't read much of the other years - they might be just as good).

http://www.robertstech.com/quot2005.htm

Some of my 2005 favorites:

Moments of delirious personal satisfaction are the engines of
effort. — Jack Davis

Still true!

It wants me to log in, and doesn't offer the choice of a 'Get
Stuffed' button. — Bob Walkden 

How little things have changed...

I have a 50 roll per year Ektachrome habit. — Rick Womer 

Wow. Kodak doesn't even *make* slide film now. How much things have
changed...

Most images don't deserve to live as long as the medium. — William
Robb 

Bill is still the benchmark in the proposed cynical/naive axis of
the Myers-Briggs personality test.

It looked like an ordinary bottle of water. But it was on a plinth.
— Wayne Hill (Quoted on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4718573.stm)

Ah yes, ART!

As for Cotty, I have no idea what he's talking about. — Frank
Theriault

Plus ca change...

Doug Brewer is the brother I never wanted. — Cesar Matamoros 

You can't make this stuff up.

Yes I know I'm evil, but hell, it pays the bills. — P. J. Alling 

Still evil after all these years.

It is art, and if the rules were so well defined, then I'd be doing
something else. — Juan Buhler 

I still miss Juan's contributions to the PDML.

You can never have too many lenses. — William Robb 

Oh YEAH. 2005 was the year.

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Re: Boston Public Library

2012-03-17 Thread Rick Womer
I like this, too; but I think it works better rotated 90 degrees.  Less 
vertigo-inducing that way, for some reason.

Rick
 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Boston Public Library

 http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7da00222.htm

 I think I like this one. Not certain, but probably. I'm half worried
 that I overdid the processing but then I think reality is overrated
 anyway...


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I like it quite a bit Mark. Numerous hotels tend to purchase locally
themed photography for decor, often though out the entire building. I
could easily see this hanging in some 4 or 5 star hotel in downtown
Boston.

Tom C.

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GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

Hi all,

Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to 
take the K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my 
A-50/1.7 or K 50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old 
Tokina SZ-X 28-200 f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it 
more often. As far as I'm concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much 
better performer than any of my auto-focus zooms.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/

I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.

As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.

-- Walt

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Re: 2005

2012-03-17 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cats and Bell Jars...  Do it yourself electricity!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Things sure =do= change.  I've gone from a 50-roll-per-year Ektachrome habit 
 to a 50-coulomb-per-year digital habit.

 If somebody stops producing electricity, what will I do?

 Rick


 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:58 PM
 Subject: 2005

 In going through the PDML Quotation List archive a few minutes ago to
 find Bob Blakely's Andy Warhol quip I was struck by the fact that
 2005 was a pretty good year for the List (though, truth to be told, I
 didn't read much of the other years - they might be just as good).

 http://www.robertstech.com/quot2005.htm

 Some of my 2005 favorites:

 Moments of delirious personal satisfaction are the engines of
 effort. — Jack Davis

 Still true!

 It wants me to log in, and doesn't offer the choice of a 'Get
 Stuffed' button. — Bob Walkden

 How little things have changed...

 I have a 50 roll per year Ektachrome habit. — Rick Womer

 Wow. Kodak doesn't even *make* slide film now. How much things have
 changed...

 Most images don't deserve to live as long as the medium. — William
 Robb

 Bill is still the benchmark in the proposed cynical/naive axis of
 the Myers-Briggs personality test.

 It looked like an ordinary bottle of water. But it was on a plinth.
 — Wayne Hill (Quoted on
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4718573.stm)

 Ah yes, ART!

 As for Cotty, I have no idea what he's talking about. — Frank
 Theriault

 Plus ca change...

 Doug Brewer is the brother I never wanted. — Cesar Matamoros

 You can't make this stuff up.

 Yes I know I'm evil, but hell, it pays the bills. — P. J. Alling

 Still evil after all these years.

 It is art, and if the rules were so well defined, then I'd be doing
 something else. — Juan Buhler

 I still miss Juan's contributions to the PDML.

 You can never have too many lenses. — William Robb

 Oh YEAH. 2005 was the year.

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Re: GESO - fishie

2012-03-17 Thread Jack Davis
Fishie made it fun.

Jack



From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:13 PM
Subject: GESO - fishie



Some street stuff from yesterday with the fishie. Don't think I'll be using it 
too often, and not just because its gimmicky. It's so wide, even when I'm 
practically on top of them, it looks like I'm shooting from across the street. 
Fun though.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_03/12_03_fisheye/index.htm

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Re:

2012-03-17 Thread Jack Davis
...573 has an especially nice flow to it, Dan
Nice!

Jack


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To: paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net; Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:58 PM
Subject: 

Paul, I mentioned before that I had similar ornamental grass, but that
it was not as attractive as usual because it was beaten, broken and
bent over by an unexpected October snow storm.  Today, I was cleaning
up the patio, and cutting away the dead grasses.  I came across a few
heads that were passable, although not as nice as last year.  Neither
my flower heads nor my images are as good as yours, but here they are
for comparison:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15372573

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15372574

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Maiden Hair grass blooms in October, and the first hard freeze turns the 
 flower heads into lacy delights. Winter was mild this year and some of the 
 flowers remained beautifully intact until spring. Shot this one the other day 
 with the K-5 and 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. f8, 1/250th, ISO 800.

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Re: 2005

2012-03-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer wrote:

Things sure =do= change. l I've gone from a 50-roll-per-year 
Ektachrome habit to a 50-coulomb-per-year digital habit.

If somebody stops producing electricity, what will I do?

Same thing you would have done to get your Ektachrome developed
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Sometimes, the song is just right....

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen
Sometime last week I got a note from a very pretty friend of mine asking if she 
could come over for a figure/fetish photo session.  Shortly before she and her 
boyfriend arrived, Zab asked me to put some music on the stereo so some blues 
playlist we had put together was playing during the photo shoot.  At one point 
I was photographing a beautiful naked woman, and realized the song in the 
background was Living the life I love.

Sometimes, the song is just right.

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Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to take the 
 K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my A-50/1.7 or K 
 50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old Tokina SZ-X 28-200 
 f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it more often. As far as I'm 
 concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much better performer than any of my 
 auto-focus zooms.
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/

That set doesn't suck.  

My favorite is the first one:
IMGP5651-1
I love the luminous quality in the square one of the tulips:
IMGP5687-1

If I were markbaiting though, I would have phrased it Walt, I love your 
tulips, but I've got better taste than that.

 
 I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.

And a well done shot at that.

 
 As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.
 
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Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/17/2012 10:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mar 17, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


Hi all,

Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to take the 
K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my A-50/1.7 or K 
50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old Tokina SZ-X 28-200 
f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it more often. As far as I'm 
concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much better performer than any of my 
auto-focus zooms.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/

That set doesn't suck.

Thanks, Larry! That's precisely what I was hoping to accomplish.




My favorite is the first one:
IMGP5651-1
That was the shot that made me decide to go on the photowalk. It was in 
my next door neighbor's backyard, and the tree was teeming with bees. 
When I managed to catch one and actually get it in focus, it was a 
foregone conclusion.



I love the luminous quality in the square one of the tulips:
IMGP5687-1

If I were markbaiting though, I would have phrased it Walt, I love your 
tulips, but I've got better taste than that.

I owe you one, if I can ever muster some semblance of good taste.




I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.

And a well done shot at that.
Thanks! I thought of you the moment I saw it -- well, after I wondered 
whether or not they were hallucinogenic and decided against taking the 
chance.





As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.

-- Walt

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PESO: Scourge

2012-03-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

Hi all,

This is another shot I took out on my photowalk today, but just didn't 
seem to fit in with the rest. I have to say it's my favorite of all the 
shots I took, though -- and still growing on me.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6991877469/
K-x, Tokina SZ-X 28-200, f/5.6, 1/320, ISO 100

Thanks for looking and any comments and/or suggestions you might have.

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Scourge

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 17, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 This is another shot I took out on my photowalk today, but just didn't seem 
 to fit in with the rest. I have to say it's my favorite of all the shots I 
 took, though -- and still growing on me.

Very nice.  If I didn't know better, I'd think you knew what you were doing.

 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6991877469/
 K-x, Tokina SZ-X 28-200, f/5.6, 1/320, ISO 100
 
 Thanks for looking and any comments and/or suggestions you might have.
 
 -- Walt
 
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GESO of Zoo trip

2012-03-17 Thread Theodore Beilby
Met family in Little Rock and went to the zoo among places this St. Pats Day. 
First real workout with the 60 - 250. Few back  focused, several shaky shots, 
but when it hit, WOW. I think I am going to like this lens. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/6845816198/in/set-72157629608506957/lightbox/
 

Comments pro and con welcomed.  

Thanks all, 

Ted
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Re: GESO of Zoo trip

2012-03-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 17, 2012, at 10:52 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote:

 Met family in Little Rock and went to the zoo among places this St. Pats Day. 
 First real workout with the 60 - 250. Few back  focused, several shaky shots, 
 but when it hit, WOW. I think I am going to like this lens. 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/6845816198/in/set-72157629608506957/lightbox/

There are some nice ones in there.  Are you vignetting the photos? Or is that 
the lens?

 
 
 Comments pro and con welcomed.  
 
 Thanks all, 
 
 Ted
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