Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bruce Walker

 A sobering essay to ponder:

 As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are two
 possible effects on “serious” photography.

 1. The flowering of photographers leads to millions of people who are
 thinking more visually and whom we may be able to entice to become an
 audience for documentary and photojournalistic images.

 2. We are bombarded with so much visual stimuli via the Web and social
 media that it becomes almost impossible to rise above the flood of
 images. And if everyone likes everything, no one photograph is better
 than another.

 http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/in-an-age-of-likes-
 commonplace-images-prevail/


 The situation is not so different from writing. There are probably more 
 literate people in the world than there are people with cameras, and billions 
 of emails are written every day - mostly on the PDML, it seems - yet somehow 
 good writers still come to the fore. I see no reason for photography to be 
 significantly different, and don't see why it should claim any special status.

 The blogger claims The question is: How does the photographic community 
 harness this explosion of visual energy to expand its audience? This is what 
 needs to be focused on. Yet he does not explain why this needs to be focused 
 on.

 People who want to be 'literate' photographers will take photographs which 
 appeal to that audience. Most people do not want to be literate 
 photographers, just as most writers of emails and postcards don't want to be 
 literary novelists or magazine writers.

Bob, you say yet somehow good writers still come to the fore. I
believe that the future of this somehow is uncertain.

Up until now, editors made sure that we read worthwhile writers, but
newspapers and magazines are losing their readership. More and more
people are depending on the net as their source. Editors of any
quality are disappearing and we are subject to the raw feed, so we get
things like the PDML. :-) Folks who care are managing to find a few
respectable sources, but even editors need to live. There's still no
credible business model for this thing.

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Re: GESO - Another batch of dragonflies

2012-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
Another great set

Dave

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 I never get tired of shooting these guys -

 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/red-dragons-2012

 Mark

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Re: List news: Fwd: Emergency Maintenance

2012-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Isn't someone going to mention Joni Mitchell?

She is out paving paridise

Dave
 ann


 On 9/7/2012 20:23, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Damn subversive clouds.

 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
 wrote:

 They're installing a security patch on a cloud instance? That sounds
 like a crime against nature or something...



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Re: PESO: The Politicians

2012-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
I see your leaders look like ours

Dave

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Taken about a couple of weeks ago in Santa Cruz,  California.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/politics.html

 Just  my little jab at our current political cycle.

 Marnie aka Doe ;-)

 (I'm bc! Well, I think I am. Sort of. I think I've said 2-3  times
 in the past three years that I was back. Then I wasn't. But this time I
 think I am REALLY, REALLY back. Pretty sure. I think. Probably. Heh.)


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Re: Peso: Bugs

2012-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oops.  All love, no spider:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-fj6jqcv/0/XL/spider-2-XL.jpg

I'm sure its a good photo, the bee one is.,

Dave

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Re: Unsubbing for a while...

2012-09-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
Glad you're back and it's not any worse than it was!
Emails saying you're sick and dropping out are a bit scary.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:18 PM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 But now I'm back, so what have I missed(although I have been through the 
 archives)?
 Had a bout of the latest nasty influenza virus, followed by bronchitis which 
 is now in its
 last stages, thank goodness.

 Thanks to all who sent get well messages, much appreciated.


 John Coyle
 Brisbane, Australia



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Camera comparison at church

2012-09-08 Thread David J Brooks
Took the D200 and K-5 to the rehearsal at the church Thursday night,
and did a few tests for the wedding today. Set both cameras at iso 400
and Pttl on the k5 and equivalent setting on the sb800. I noticed the
d200 gave me 1/15 at f4 and a bit dark, but not bad. The af360 and k5
gave me 1/80 at f4 and nicely lit. Both had the difuusers on. The
lights were not on so i pushed the k5 to 3200 and took a few non flash
shots. They all are quite nice, well lit and little noise. Nothing LR
can't adjust if needed or a good BW LR filter for arts sake.:-)

Not sure what to make of this difference in flash exposure though. I
think the K5 will get a good indoor work out today. the lights will be
on BTW

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Re: Peso: My Yard

2012-09-08 Thread Mark C

On 9/7/2012 10:51 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



In the world of releases, Mark, are you saying doggie is considered 
property?


That's what a stock agency told me some time ago - they rejected all the 
model releases I sent them with paw prints on the signature line... :-)


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Re: Oracle vies with Apple to see who will be the supreme, , ASSHOLES in the entire universe

2012-09-08 Thread Igor Roshchin


I am also annoyed by the recent trend of a bunch of different programs
trying to sneak in McAffee AV.
However, to be fair, while I am not using many Apple products, what I've 
used so far was not completely soft and cuddly.

I don't remember how it was most recently, but previously, 
QuickTime was annoyingly asking you every time if you wanted to install
a Pro version or something... and it was also insisting on starting
a part of itself upon computer booting.

I was also startled by the fact that in order to start a brand new iPad
(I only needed to make sure it was working),
one has to install Apple junkware (aka iTunes) on a PC!
(I don't like installing on my computer anything that I don't need.)

Igor

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenquist at
comcast.net wrote:

 Apple updates don't come with unsolicited attachments, They're
 certainly not a PITA. In fact, they're optional.  So I guess we're
 down to Oracle.


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Re: Peso: My Yard

2012-09-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ah -
I thought it was more like dog owner signed as parent or guardian 
(hate to consider critters as property - despite the term dog owner)


ann

On 9/8/2012 10:58, Mark C wrote:

On 9/7/2012 10:51 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:



In the world of releases, Mark, are you saying doggie is considered
property?


That's what a stock agency told me some time ago - they rejected all the
model releases I sent them with paw prints on the signature line... :-)

Mark



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Re: test

2012-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

Consider it so.

On 9/8/2012 1:29 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

ignore




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Re: Cool astro photo opportunity

2012-09-08 Thread Miserere
Larry,

You might appreciate this photo:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120824.html

I like that it clearly shows how much slower than the background stars
(and,  errr, planet) the Moon moves in the sky.

Cheers,


   —M.

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 If anyone has some long reach glass (like 1200mm on APSC)  the moon is right 
 next to Jupiter.  On live view, zoomed in for focus, it looked like I was 
 even seeing some of Jupiters moons.  In the past couple of hours the moon 
 seems to have moved visibly past Jupiter, so don't hesitate.  Bong or the 
 Aussie/NZ folks may have the best chance at it.

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Re: K-5 II and K-5 IIs leaked

2012-09-08 Thread Miserere
On 7 September 2012 16:45, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aside from the low pass option, any other guesses about the s part?

Splendid? Satisfying? Sultry? Stoopid? Sanitised? ...?


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Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
normal, but still.

I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very interesting.

Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly because
every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...

http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/

B


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Re: test

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
cannot

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 ignore

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Re: Unsubbing for a while...

2012-09-08 Thread Walt Gilbert
I do believe I'm recovering from that particular pestilence myself, 
John. I can't remember the last time I've been that sick. Glad to hear 
you're well down the road to recovery.


-- Walt

On 9/7/2012 8:18 PM, John Coyle wrote:

But now I'm back, so what have I missed(although I have been through the 
archives)?
Had a bout of the latest nasty influenza virus, followed by bronchitis which is 
now in its
last stages, thank goodness.

Thanks to all who sent get well messages, much appreciated.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
A wonderful gallery , Bob. Enjoyed every shot. I daresay you get
around better in your injured condition than I do with two good legs.

Especially love #6 and #47. Noticing that zigzag zebra stripes shape
in #47 was genius.


On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
 and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
 walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
 normal, but still.

 I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
 areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very interesting.

 Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly because
 every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
 Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...

 http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/

 B


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Re: K-5 II and K-5 IIs leaked

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote:

On 7 September 2012 16:45, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aside from the low pass option, any other guesses about the s part?

Splendid? Satisfying? Sultry? Stoopid? Sanitised? ...?

Spurious in this case.
 
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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
A very nice set. Seeing Paris always makes my heart ache a bit, in a good way, 
and atmosphere is the perfect inducement.
Paul

On Sep 8, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
 and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
 walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
 normal, but still.
 
 I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
 areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very interesting.
 
 Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly because
 every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
 Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/
 
 B
 
 
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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
normal, but still.

I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very interesting.

Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly because
every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...

http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/

Lovelly stuff. Very enjoyable.

Also, I think the Flaneur of Normal sounds like some kind of
lesser-known aristocratic title. You should adopt it. You could be
Lord Walkden, the Flaneur of Normal.

 
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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
I love the one with the crosswalks. The connection to the awnings is remarkable.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
 and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
 walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
 normal, but still.

 I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
 areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very interesting.

 Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly because
 every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
 Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...

 http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/

 B


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RE: Anybody got a line on an inexpensive ring flash?

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


Unfortunately, when I started digging into what it would cost to
upgrade my tripod/monopod heads, and do it right, it rapidly exceeded
my birthday present budget.  I was trying to photograph a spider
eating a fly this afternoon, and tried several variations of the
flash, including my el cheapo passive ringflash adapter, which threw
away too much light for what I was trying to do.

I don't have $500 to buy the Pentax ring flash, at least not new.  I
don't care if it's pure manual operation.  I'd like it to be powerful
enough that I could also use it for fill when doing portrait
photography.  I think I'd prefer flash to LED, because if I'm hand
holding a macro shot, anything that'll help freeze motion is helpful.
Especially if I'm photographing a flower and it's at all breezy
outside.

Anybody have any recommendations of flashes to look at?  Or, for that
matter, ones to avoid?  Or know of any awesome deals on a used one.


I've had an idea of scrounging up a whole bunch of those disposable 
cameras that have flash  disassembling them to get enough of those to 
make my own. Thinking of mounting them around something like a ring 
frisbee.


I suppose you could vary the power by putting 12 of them on the ring 
like the numbers on a clock. Low power would be 12, 3, 6, 9; add 1, 4, 
7, 10 for medium power and all 12 for high power.


Instead of mounting it on the camera you'd mount it on a lightstand  
just point the lens through the hole in the middle.


Haven't given it much more thought than that. Haven't figured out how 
I'd power it or trigger it. Never got around to taking one of those 
little cameras apart to see how they triggered the flash  the place I 
used to work no longer has their film processor so I can't get them from 
there ... I was still on good terms with my former cow-orkers assuming 
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Re: test

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

That's funny.

From: Tim Bray


I think your tone, what with the imperative verb form, lacking
capitalization and punctuation, is a little, well, abrupt. Your PDML
posse deserves better.  I frequently lecture my difficult 6-year-old
when she emits one-word imperatives, especially at the dinner table.
[It?s not working.]  It?s OK, I?ll do my best to bear up under the
weight. [sighs melodramatically]

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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Christine Aguila
Great gallery, Bob, with consistently  excellent work throughout.  Though I 
find this one, most especially brilliant!  I'd love to have a print of it!

http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/content/L1000152_large.html

cheers, Christine






On Sep 8, 2012, at 10:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
 and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
 walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
 normal, but still.
 
 I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
 areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very interesting.
 
 Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly because
 every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
 Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/
 
 B
 
 
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Re: test

2012-09-08 Thread Christine Aguila
yep, and keep me posted on that calendar!  :-)  Cheers, Christine


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 Of course she knew, that's why she did it!
 
 Marnie - great to see you back
 Christine - glad you see you back :-)
 The nice side effect of your problem is that we got a phone chat in
 
 ann
 
 On 9/8/2012 01:52, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Come on, you knew that wouldn't work. This is  PDML!
 
 M aka D :-)
 
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RE: OT - Sony NEX-7

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W


From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Bruce Walker


People have different styles and I respect that because as long as
it works it's good.  However, the line I never look at the LCD is
a typical line of a phtotoposeur.

Please note that I'm not saying that folks who don't use the LCD

are

posers.  Just that the claim is a favorite of those who are.



After having several glasses of Malbec, and risking appearing
stupid(er), what is a poser? :) I can guess of course.


A tricky question, or someone who poses. Or a misspelling of poseur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseur



I sometimes go out and pretend to be a poseur, which of course I'm not. Or
am I? The Poseur's Paradox.

B


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Re: OT: aguila's spamming issue

2012-09-08 Thread Christine Aguila
That's what the earthlink support staff said, but I decided I needed a 
change--you know, a woman needs to move the furniture around and change email 
addresses every now and then  :-)  Cheers, Christine




On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 Probably would have been good enough to just change the password, no
 need to kill it really -T
 
 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 I just killed my earthlink.net address.  If anyone gets any more spam from 
 that address, which was cagu...@earthlink.net,  please let me know.  Sorry 
 for all the trouble, but big thanks for the calls and emails.  Very kind of 
 you all.  I had that email since about 1996.  Odd to see it go, and can't 
 understand how it got hijacked.  First time it's ever happened to me.
 
 Carry on then.  Thanks.  Christine
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Re: test

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller

Simply couldn't.   ;+}

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Subject: test



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Re: List news: Fwd: Emergency Maintenance

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller

Well I would, but I really don't know clouds at all.


Have you looked at them from both sides now??

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Subject: Re: List news: Fwd: Emergency Maintenance



Well I would, but I really don't know clouds at all.

On 8 September 2012 03:49, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Isn't someone going to mention Joni Mitchell?
ann


On 9/7/2012 20:23, Steven Desjardins wrote:


Damn subversive clouds.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Mark Roberts 
postmas...@robertstech.com

wrote:


They're installing a security patch on a cloud instance? That sounds
like a crime against nature or something...



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Re: GESO - Another batch of dragonflies

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller

I never get tired of shooting these guys -


And we can all see why !

You da dragonfly man Mark !

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Subject: GESO - Another batch of dragonflies



I never get tired of shooting these guys -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/red-dragons-2012

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Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller

Some truth in the essay.
But just because an image is posted  liked doesn't mean it is well done or 
even good. It means in some cases it struck a cord with the viewer on some 
level. And I doubt most i phone photos are crafted.

Some of the work on instagram is truly good - not so others.

YMMV

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Subject: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail



A sobering essay to ponder:

As far as I can see — admittedly from ground level — there are two
possible effects on “serious” photography.

1. The flowering of photographers leads to millions of people who are
thinking more visually and whom we may be able to entice to become an
audience for documentary and photojournalistic images.

2. We are bombarded with so much visual stimuli via the Web and social
media that it becomes almost impossible to rise above the flood of
images. And if everyone likes everything, no one photograph is better
than another.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/in-an-age-of-likes-commonplace-images-prevail/

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Re: Oracle vies with Apple to see who will be the supreme, , , ASSHOLES in the entire universe

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms
FWIW, although it was a download that set me off, I was comparing 
business models rather than specific downloads.


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Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-08 8:07 Bruce Walker wrote

  There's still no
credible business model for this thing.


does there need to be a business model? can good writing, or photography, 
happen without a business model?


going a little deeper, is it possible that all it means when good this or good 
that comes to the fore is that it has been commercialized successfully, with 
perhaps enough panache that people feel sophisticated consuming the product? 
not in every case does a lot of money change hands, but art that achieves 
recognition still seems to be of the commercial world; this is why punk bands 
and street artists have long struggled with success as a form of failure


so, if art happens and only your house guests, or your Facebook friends, see 
it, is it art?


i think that may explain the obsession with discoveries of obscure artists: 
it is the last gasp of artistic exceptionalism



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Re: OT: aguila's spamming issue

2012-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
It's nice to see that a long dead Roman Emperor has his own domain to be 
master of...


On 9/8/2012 1:05 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

That's what the earthlink support staff said, but I decided I needed a 
change--you know, a woman needs to move the furniture around and change email 
addresses every now and then  :-)  Cheers, Christine




On Sep 7, 2012, at 11:02 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:


Probably would have been good enough to just change the password, no
need to kill it really -T

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

Hi Everyone:

I just killed my earthlink.net address.  If anyone gets any more spam from that 
address, which was cagu...@earthlink.net,  please let me know.  Sorry for all 
the trouble, but big thanks for the calls and emails.  Very kind of you all.  I 
had that email since about 1996.  Odd to see it go, and can't understand how it 
got hijacked.  First time it's ever happened to me.

Carry on then.  Thanks.  Christine
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Re: Peso: My Yard

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Ann Sanfedele


Ah -
I thought it was more like dog owner signed as parent or guardian
(hate to consider critters as property - despite the term dog owner)

ann


At least with dogs there's no question about who is owner  who is 
owned.


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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller

A nice variety of subjects well done!

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Subject: Paris



I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
normal, but still.

I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very 
interesting.


Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly 
because

every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...

http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/

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Re: Peso: My Yard

2012-09-08 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-09-08 13:26, John Sessoms wrote:


At least with dogs there's no question about who is owner  who is
owned.


There's no question with cats, either, it's just reversed from the 
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PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint
owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage
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http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg
 
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Re: List news: Fwd: Emergency Maintenance

2012-09-08 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/8/12 8:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Is it done yet?


I've not heard any different, so I guess it went well.

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Re: test

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oh, I'm late to the party.  Are we ignoring someone?

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 Simply couldn't.   ;+}

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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's what Kawasakis are for:  Parts.

Nice Upgrade, BTW.


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Re: Peso: Bugs

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Oh, give it a look Dave.  He's winking 3 eyes fro you.

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 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oops.  All love, no spider:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-fj6jqcv/0/XL/spider-2-XL.jpg

 I'm sure its a good photo, the bee one is.,

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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Steven Desjardins wrote:

That's what Kawasakis are for:  Parts.

Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship
races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the
hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!)

Nice Upgrade, BTW.

The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding
could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better.
Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed
in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana
I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now
*that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!) 

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Re: Ot - do you know where the watercolor was done?

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

In the spirit of Ann's Salvation Army watercolor discoveries ...

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/a-possible-renoir-surfaces-at-a-virginia-flea-market/

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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-08 9:58 Bob W wrote

I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle there
and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can still barely
walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the flaneur of
normal, but still.

I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes, which are
areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very interesting.

Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly because
every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!
Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...

http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/


from my armchair, your photos let me hear and smell the streets

in my one trip to Paris i stayed on Rue Beaunier not far from where you seem to 
have been; the everyday in that area was a great counterpoint to the grand 
sights, but it seems you wandered far beyond the boundaries your ankle would 
have set


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RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 steve harley
 
 on 2012-09-08 8:07 Bruce Walker wrote
There's still no
  credible business model for this thing.
 
 does there need to be a business model? can good writing, or
 photography, happen without a business model?
 
 going a little deeper, is it possible that all it means when good this
 or good that comes to the fore is that it has been commercialized
 successfully, with perhaps enough panache that people feel
 sophisticated consuming the product?
 not in every case does a lot of money change hands, but art that
 achieves recognition still seems to be of the commercial world; this is
 why punk bands and street artists have long struggled with success as a
 form of failure
 
 so, if art happens and only your house guests, or your Facebook
 friends, see it, is it art?
 
 i think that may explain the obsession with discoveries of obscure
 artists:
 it is the last gasp of artistic exceptionalism
 

well, good writing is good writing. Whether it's 'art' or not is a different
question. There is a lot of good writing every day in newspapers, magazines,
even technical manuals, that is not meant as art, whatever the definition.
The same goes for photography. 

'Comes to the fore' in the way I meant it is not about commercial success
but about recognition. Some of the works that are now recognised as among
the best in their field were never commercial successes. What they
benefitted from was publication by people and organisations who did not
expect to turn a profit on everything, but who used the commercially
successful to subsidise the good, when they did not coincidence, and
exposure to people who were in a position to promote the stuff on the
grounds of its quality.

With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and
photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to
the right people. People are not going to look at a great many places in
search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce around a few sites for
each audience - there will be a huge proliferation of overlapping audiences
- and somebody will curate each site.

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Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms
Seems today that most photographs are destined for facebook, and that's 
where they belong.


From: kwaller


Some truth in the essay.
But just because an image is posted  liked doesn't mean it is well done or
even good. It means in some cases it struck a cord with the viewer on some
level. And I doubt most i phone photos are crafted.
Some of the work on instagram is truly good - not so others.

YMMV

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Subject: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail



A sobering essay to ponder:

As far as I can see ? admittedly from ground level ? there are two
possible effects on ?serious? photography.

1. The flowering of photographers leads to millions of people who are
thinking more visually and whom we may be able to entice to become an
audience for documentary and photojournalistic images.

2. We are bombarded with so much visual stimuli via the Web and social
media that it becomes almost impossible to rise above the flood of
images. And if everyone likes everything, no one photograph is better
than another.

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/in-an-age-of-likes-commonplace-images-prevail/


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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 8/9/12, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/

Lovely gallery.

This one is exceptionale!

http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/content/L1000152_large.html



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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller
Nice! 


Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill?

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Subject: PESO for the motorcycle geeks



Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint
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Re: PESO - Storm Brewing (the re-do)

2012-09-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/9/12, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Darkened the clouds.  Actually it's now the darker exposure of the
bracketed trio, so you'll notice the figure is slightly different:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/storm-brewing-re-do.html

Love it!

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RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W


With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and
photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to
the right people. People are not going to look at a great many places in
search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce around a few sites for
each audience - there will be a huge proliferation of overlapping audiences
- and somebody will curate each site.


The real question is what's going to happen to the work of good writers, 
good photographers  good artists when the answer to the question Can I 
make a living doing this? becomes universally NO.


Not even talking about getting rich; just about earning enough so you 
can convince the landlord that *someday* he might eventually collect at 
least part of the back rent.


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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/8/12 1:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint
owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage
yard :-)
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg



nice. was this bolt and go?

I don't think I ever did a mod that didn't mean a chain of set-up,

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PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller
Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on a 
boat in the inside passage.

A great place to capture marine life.

Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

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Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread kwaller
The real question is what's going to happen to the work of good writers, 
good photographers  good artists when the answer to the question Can I 
make a living doing this? becomes universally NO.


The 'good' photographers are going to have to step up their efforts both in 
their photography and efforts to sell it.


Kenneth Waller
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From: Bob W


With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and
photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to
the right people. People are not going to look at a great many places in
search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce around a few sites for
each audience - there will be a huge proliferation of overlapping 
audiences

- and somebody will curate each site.


The real question is what's going to happen to the work of good writers, 
good photographers  good artists when the answer to the question Can I 
make a living doing this? becomes universally NO.


Not even talking about getting rich; just about earning enough so you can 
convince the landlord that *someday* he might eventually collect at least 
part of the back rent.



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RE: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 steve harley
 
 on 2012-09-08 9:58 Bob W wrote
  I got back yesterday from a few days in Paris. I'd planned to cycle
  there and back, but an ankle injury put paid to that idea. I can
 still
  barely walk, but somehow I managed to hobble around. Not exactly the
  flaneur of normal, but still.
 
  I stayed in a flat about midway between Montparnasse and Barbes,
 which
  are areas I didn't previously know particularly well, but are very
 interesting.
 
  Unfortunately I never quite got into the photographic groove, partly
  because every step was agony, but here are some photos, mainly
 Atmosphere!
  Atmosphere! as Arletty would say...
 
  http://www.web-options.com/Paris2012/
 
 from my armchair, your photos let me hear and smell the streets


thanks - that's what I hope for.

 in my one trip to Paris i stayed on Rue Beaunier not far from where you
 seem to have been; the everyday in that area was a great counterpoint
 to the grand sights, but it seems you wandered far beyond the
 boundaries your ankle would have set
 

Paris intramuros - that is, the 20 arrondissements - is very small, and it's
very easy to get about quickly using the 'grands axes', the boulevards and
large avenues. The secret of knowing Paris, indeed any city, is to
understand how they relate to each other, and to learn the twiddly bits in
between. It's only by walking or cycling that you can really learn a city,
in my view.

I'm not familiar with the rue Beaunier, although my map tells me it's quite
close to the Parc Montsouris, which I visited on Thursday and which is one
of my favourite parts of Paris. Indeed, if I retire to Paris when the time
comes that is the likeliest area for me to look for somewhere to live.
That's the South-East part of Paris, whereas I was more North Central, other
side of the river.

This was my approximate route from the apartment on the Wednesday - further
than I thought or planned. It took a very long time to hobble all that way,
I can assure you:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?zoom_level=12submit=go

I walked a similar distance on Tuesday, far less on Thursday when I passed
right by rue Beaunier on my way to the park from the Villa Seurat, where
Henry Miller and Anais Nin used to live. Looking at these hobbles - I won't
dignify them by calling them walks - I'm not surprised my ankle isn't
getting any better.

B




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RE: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 kwal...@peoplepc.com
 
 Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly
 on a boat in the inside passage.
 A great place to capture marine life.
 
 Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a
 Zodiak.
 20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772
 
 Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

That's a great shot! 10 days at sea - I'll bet you thought it was a
mermaid...

I hope we're going to hear some stories about this trip, and see more photos
- it sounds like a great adventure.

B


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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 ...but here are some photos, mainly Atmosphere!

Brilliant, wonderful. Enjoyed every single one. Thanks to people like
you I can see all the beauty of Paris without having to return there
myself. 

Ralf

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RE: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 John Sessoms
 
 From: Bob W
 
  With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers
  and photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right
  exposure to the right people. People are not going to look at a great
  many places in search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce
  around a few sites for each audience - there will be a huge
  proliferation of overlapping audiences
  - and somebody will curate each site.
 
 The real question is what's going to happen to the work of good
 writers, good photographers  good artists when the answer to the
 question Can I make a living doing this? becomes universally NO.
 

Ask Balzac, and all the other writers and artists who spent time in debtor's
prisons. For the vast majority of artists it has always been a spare time
activity, done for love, not money.

 Not even talking about getting rich; just about earning enough so you
 can convince the landlord that *someday* he might eventually collect at
 least part of the back rent.
 

Balzac only used to rent places which had a back door, so that when his
creditors found out his new address, and came looking for him, he had a way
to escape.

People like Picasso never had any money for years. That's where the legends
of signing napkins to pay for meals came from, and why cafes in Paris still
have originals on the walls by some of the great artists. People find
patrons - Matisse had Shchukhin to support him. 

B


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Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 'Comes to the fore' in the way I meant it is not about commercial success
 but about recognition. Some of the works that are now recognised as among
 the best in their field were never commercial successes. What they
 benefitted from was publication by people and organisations who did not
 expect to turn a profit on everything, but who used the commercially
 successful to subsidise the good, when they did not coincidence, and
 exposure to people who were in a position to promote the stuff on the
 grounds of its quality.

 With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and
 photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to
 the right people. People are not going to look at a great many places in
 search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce around a few sites for
 each audience - there will be a huge proliferation of overlapping audiences
 - and somebody will curate each site.

When everyone is an artist, everyone is also a part time curator.
Nobody has the time or patience to do a thorough and skilled job of
it, so we skim and burn our eyes on a lot of toxic sludge.

But there are examples of non-profit curated sources with some skill
and class that are attracting increased attention. Not to everyone's
taste, but http://thisisnthappiness.com/ is one of my consistent
faves. The Tumblr site encourages amateur curating, and some folks
exhibit excellent taste there.

Perhaps we'll be saved by self-financed patrons and philanthropists.

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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
That sea lion is superb, Ken.


On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on a
 boat in the inside passage.
 A great place to capture marine life.

 Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
 20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

 Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
Excellent portrait! I've seen Steller's Jay, but not his sea lion.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on a
 boat in the inside passage.
 A great place to capture marine life.

 Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
 20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

 Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote:

On 9/8/12 1:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint
 owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage
 yard :-)
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg

nice. was this bolt and go?

Yep. Bolt and go. Or bolt and stop, in this case. A whole lot of bikes
from the 1996-2007 period used Tokico brakes with the same disc size
and mounting setup. These 6-piston calipers were particularly common.

I don't think I ever did a mod that didn't mean a chain of set-up,

I know the feeling. But I'm not going to go there with this bike.

On the other hand, I *am* going to do some suspension upgrades next
spring...
 
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Re: Peso: Bugs

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Love the bee, Steve.

Spidey is hard to make out though. Had to squint a few of my own eyes
to see him. :-) Could you dodge the leaves and burn Mr. spider a bit
brighter?


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Bee:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-3Wp2fjJ/0/XL/bee-XL.jpg

 Bug Love:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-KZrnF8J/0/XL/bug-love-XL.jpg

 Big Spider (about three inches):

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-KZrnF8J/0/XL/bug-love-XL.jpg

 All done with a Q in one hand and the leash of a very impatient dog
 pulling me in the other.

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Re: PESO: The Politicians

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Ain't it the tooth.

Good to see ya here, Marnie!


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Taken about a couple of weeks ago in Santa Cruz,  California.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/politics.html

 Just  my little jab at our current political cycle.

 Marnie aka Doe ;-)

 (I'm bc! Well, I think I am. Sort of. I think I've said 2-3  times
 in the past three years that I was back. Then I wasn't. But this time I
 think I am REALLY, REALLY back. Pretty sure. I think. Probably. Heh.)


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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Jack Davis
Well done, Ken! Beautifully exposed crisp image.


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Subject: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on a boat 
in the inside passage.
A great place to capture marine life.

Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

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Re: PESO - The Jury

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Love it. Various stages of nodding off. :-)


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:

 Going over some old files, found one shot a couple of years ago that I
 apparently overlooked at the time.

 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso18.html

 Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Mark C

Stellar indeed! Excellent shot!

Mark

On 9/8/2012 2:40 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly 
on a boat in the inside passage.

A great place to capture marine life.

Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a 
Zodiak.

20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

Kenneth Waller
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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ken,
Great place to be and an excellent portrait.
He had to be a little close with a 300mm.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on a
 boat in the inside passage.
 A great place to capture marine life.

 Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
 20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

 Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent shot. Good job of managing the light. Nice shadow detail.
Paul
On Sep 8, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Well done, Ken! Beautifully exposed crisp image.
 
 
 Jack Davis
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis
 http://www.photolightimages.com/
 
 
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 From: kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Cc: 
 Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:40 AM
 Subject: PESO - Alaska Coastal image
 
 Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on a 
 boat in the inside passage.
 A great place to capture marine life.
 
 Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
 20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772
 
 Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.
 
 Kenneth Waller
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Setting the Q's Quick Dial

2012-09-08 Thread Mark C
Does anyone know - is it possible to program the Q's quick dial so that 
you can click on a setting and take an HDR shot? Not the faux HDR as in 
the HDR digital filter, but the real HDR that takes muliple shots and 
combines them? I spent a bit of time with the Q and its manual hoping to 
do this via the USER setting parameter, but can't seem to get it to work.


The quick dial is a prominent feature on the Q, but since I pretty much 
shoot only raw it is not very useful to me. It seems like it basically 
lets you select from the custom image settings or digital filter 
settings, or change aspect ratios (i.e. crop the photo in camera.) I did 
set it to flip into the BW mode, since it is useful to quickly see how 
a scene looks in BW. Otherwise, the true HDR is the only thing that 
might be of use there, IMO.


TIA -

Mark

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RE: OT - Sony NEX-7

2012-09-08 Thread Tom C
 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: OT - Sony NEX-7
 Message-ID: 015501cd8dc6$099827a0$1cc876e0$@com
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bruce Walker
  
   People have different styles and I respect that because as long as
   it works it's good.  However, the line I never look at the LCD is
   a typical line of a phtotoposeur.
  
   Please note that I'm not saying that folks who don't use the LCD
 are
   posers.  Just that the claim is a favorite of those who are.
  
 
  After having several glasses of Malbec, and risking appearing
  stupid(er), what is a poser? :) I can guess of course.

 A tricky question, or someone who poses. Or a misspelling of poseur.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseur


 I sometimes go out and pretend to be a poseur, which of course I'm not. Or
 am I? The Poseur's Paradox.

 B

I get it. Thanks. :)

Tom C.

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Re: List news: Fwd: Emergency Maintenance

2012-09-08 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 8 September 2012 18:09,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Well I would, but I really don't know clouds at all.


 Have you looked at them from both sides now??

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Yes, from up and down, but those illusions...

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Re: OT - Sony NEX-7

2012-09-08 Thread Tom C
The new NEX-7 arrived yesterday. Auto review works exactly like it's
supposed to on this one. :)

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Re: Peso: My Yard

2012-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/8/2012 1:31 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2012-09-08 13:26, John Sessoms wrote:


At least with dogs there's no question about who is owner  who is
owned.


There's no question with cats, either, it's just reversed from the 
answer with dogs. :-)



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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-08 12:51 Bob W wrote

It's only by walking or cycling that you can really learn a city,
in my view.


i agree, and i had a great time walking in Paris, taking unplanned turns and 
grooming my internal geographic sense, as i have in most every other major city 
i've visited; but the only city that i've cycled where i didn't currently live 
was San Francisco




I'm not familiar with the rue Beaunier, although my map tells me it's quite
close to the Parc Montsouris, which I visited on Thursday and which is one
of my favourite parts of Paris.


yes, you found it, just an unremarkable residential street; the company i 
worked for rented an apartment there for DrupalCon 2009; Parc Montsouris was 
our introduction to Paris when we emerged from the adjacent train station; then 
we walked through it repeatedly commuting to the conference




Indeed, if I retire to Paris when the time
comes that is the likeliest area for me to look for somewhere to live.
That's the South-East part of Paris, whereas I was more North Central, other
side of the river.


being unfamiliar with Barbès, i found the wrong one — Rue Barbès is a few 
blocks SE of Rue Beaunier, which in turn is south of Montparnasse; but now i 
see the Barbès-Rochechuart Metro station and Boulevard de Barbès (in one of 
your photos) way across town




This was my approximate route from the apartment on the Wednesday - further
than I thought or planned. It took a very long time to hobble all that way,
I can assure you:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?zoom_level=12submit=go


alas that link doesn't work for sharing, but i can imagine the long contorted 
path your hobble traced



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PESO - Hilltop Fmhse, Many Orig Features, Needs TLC

2012-09-08 Thread Rick Womer
...as a realtor's/estate agent's listing might say.  Yorkshire is full of 
these, which is a bit sad.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16443672size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments always welcome.


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Re: Cool astro photo opportunity

2012-09-08 Thread Larry Colen
I haven't gone through all of my attempts.  For this sort of work I seriously 
need a much better tripod head.

Here is one that I spent a little time on.  I zoomed in on Jupiter, and used 
the adjustment brush to bring the moons out without bringing up the exposure on 
the noise.  Kind of a manual HDR.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7954945966/in/set-72157631464003236/


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 I just looked with my bino's and Jupiter is clearly visible as a small
 disc about 3/4 degree north of the Moon. Would have made a great shot
 through my Celestron 80mm scope in the near dawn skies here. Wish I
 had known! My own darn fault as I know how to look for these
 opportunities, just didn't. :-(
 
 Walt
 
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 even seeing some of Jupiters moons.  In the past couple of hours the moon 
 seems to have moved visibly past Jupiter, so don't hesitate.  Bong or the 
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Re: PESO - Hilltop Fmhse, Many Orig Features, Needs TLC

2012-09-08 Thread Bruce Walker
An excellent shot, Rick. Just how old might that place be?


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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16443672size=lg

 (K-5, DA 16-45)

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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-08 Thread Tom C
 From: kwal...@peoplepc.com

 Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on a
 boat in the inside passage.
 A great place to capture marine life.

 Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
 20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

 Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

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That dang Border Collie of mine! I knew she hated me but I never
thought she'd go as far as Alaska.

Excellent. Love the light on the teeth and nose.

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Re: Peso: Bugs

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Here's a brighter version:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-fj6jqcv/0/XL/spider-2-XL.jpg

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Love the bee, Steve.

 Spidey is hard to make out though. Had to squint a few of my own eyes
 to see him. :-) Could you dodge the leaves and burn Mr. spider a bit
 brighter?


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 The Bee:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-3Wp2fjJ/0/XL/bee-XL.jpg

 Bug Love:

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-KZrnF8J/0/XL/bug-love-XL.jpg

 Big Spider (about three inches):

 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/i-KZrnF8J/0/XL/bug-love-XL.jpg

 All done with a Q in one hand and the leash of a very impatient dog
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Re: Setting the Q's Quick Dial

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Not that I could work out.  I wondered if it could be done by doing
the smart effect user settings but no such luck.  This dial is a nice
idea but the selections are lousy.  This would be a nice firmware
upgrade.

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 Does anyone know - is it possible to program the Q's quick dial so that you
 can click on a setting and take an HDR shot? Not the faux HDR as in the HDR
 digital filter, but the real HDR that takes muliple shots and combines them?
 I spent a bit of time with the Q and its manual hoping to do this via the
 USER setting parameter, but can't seem to get it to work.

 The quick dial is a prominent feature on the Q, but since I pretty much
 shoot only raw it is not very useful to me. It seems like it basically lets
 you select from the custom image settings or digital filter settings, or
 change aspect ratios (i.e. crop the photo in camera.) I did set it to flip
 into the BW mode, since it is useful to quickly see how a scene looks in
 BW. Otherwise, the true HDR is the only thing that might be of use there,
 IMO.

 TIA -

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Re: The last Photokina speculation thread on PDML before Photokina

2012-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/7/2012 3:07 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 7 September 2012 14:13, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

On 9/7/2012 9:00 PM, Miserere wrote:

Boris,

It would be for a mirrorless camera, so it wouldn't be a retrofocus
design (thus the rear element protruding into the mirror box.


 —M.


Oh, I don't expect Pentax a.k.a. king of backward compatibility to produce
K-01-only lens. That is something that can be imagined, but can probably not
be imagined to come true, you know.

I'd say Pentax is the *Queen* of compatibility; Nikon is the King. But
yes, most things related to Pentax are hard to imagine, even if they
do actually happen.


You forget that Nikon built an entire series of lenses that would cause 
damage to either the lens, camera or both it mounted on the wrong series 
camera body.  The only time Pentax even came close to that was back in 
the screw mount era,  (pre-Spotmatic), and even then it was only one 
lens IIRC.  Sure the aperture simulator is gone but at least no Pentax 
produced K mount lens will damage any Pentax manufactured K mount body 
or vice versa.




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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I would have said the same thing for Honda.  I can't pick on Suzuki
because Debbie has one.

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 Steven Desjardins wrote:

That's what Kawasakis are for:  Parts.

 Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship
 races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the
 hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!)

Nice Upgrade, BTW.

 The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding
 could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better.
 Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed
 in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana
 I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now
 *that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!)

 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg


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Re: OT - Sony NEX-7

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
OK, it works.  Just don't use it.

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 The new NEX-7 arrived yesterday. Auto review works exactly like it's
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Re: OT fifty worst cars of all time

2012-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
The snark is strong with this one.  It being Time, I'm not at all 
surprised that they are ahistorical and inconsistent in their 
judgement.  There were a number of stupid designs for the ages in their 
list, but then there were a few that were simply ahead of their time, 
and others that weren't bad in their time but in hindsight were not 
great and others that were bad only in the opinion of the author.  In 
short Time is now in the running to be a blog on the level of Kenny Boy's.


On 8/30/2012 2:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1658545,00.html

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Re: OT fifty worst cars of all time

2012-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling
If it makes you feel any better I've always imagined you as a tall thin 
man in a tux.


On 8/30/2012 4:36 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:

I'd rather it take of 20 POUNDS! :-)



On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Wow, Walt, you seem so much younger the that.  Of course, the internet
takes off 20 years.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:

Couldn't be by much. I am 70.

Walt

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

You have purchased 5 cars since I last bought one.  That must say
something about each of us.  G
Of course, you are not quite as old as I am .  .  .  .
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:

Whew! None of mine are there.

Cars I Have Owned



1962 Chevy Impala SS
 1963/64
1957 Mercury Parklane Cruiser
   1965
1957 VW Beetle
1966
1968 Toyota Corona
  1968
1969 Chevy Townsman SW
  1969
1958 Rambler SW
  1969
1972 Toyota Corolla
1971
1981 Chevy Malibu SW
   1981
1983 Nissan Maxima SW Diesel
 1983
1984 Honda CRX   40 th birthday
  1982
1973 VW Beetle  
  1985
1973 VW Camper Van  
 1986
1990 Plymouth Grand Voyager Mini Van (Mom’s) 1990
1992 Mazda B2000 PU  1994
1990 Chevy Corsica  (Rachael’s car)  1996
1983 Chevy Cavalier SW  (Nathan’s car)   1997
1992 Buick LeSabre  
 1998
1996 Olds Cutlass Ciera  (Mom’s)
 1998
2005 Scion xB   
 2004
2001 Saturn LW200 SW  (Mom’s)2007
2000 Olds Intrique  
 2009
1999 Saturn SW2 SW  
 2011
2012 Hyundai Elantra GLS
 2011
2012 Hyundai Sonata  (Mom’s) 2012
2013 Hyundai Elantra GT  2012


May there be no more
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Re: OT In an Age of Likes, Commonplace Images Prevail

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
There is a fantasy author I like who got dropped by his publisher.  He
self-publishes on Amazon, but also uses Kickstarter to raise money.
When he raises enough (usually about $5000) he will write the novel.
Contributors get an electronic or hard copy depending on the size of
the donation.  This kind of Web patronage may become more common.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 'Comes to the fore' in the way I meant it is not about commercial success
 but about recognition. Some of the works that are now recognised as among
 the best in their field were never commercial successes. What they
 benefitted from was publication by people and organisations who did not
 expect to turn a profit on everything, but who used the commercially
 successful to subsidise the good, when they did not coincidence, and
 exposure to people who were in a position to promote the stuff on the
 grounds of its quality.

 With the democratisation of publishing, the difficulty that writers and
 photographers will have is to find a way of getting the right exposure to
 the right people. People are not going to look at a great many places in
 search of good work, so the outlets will coalesce around a few sites for
 each audience - there will be a huge proliferation of overlapping audiences
 - and somebody will curate each site.

 When everyone is an artist, everyone is also a part time curator.
 Nobody has the time or patience to do a thorough and skilled job of
 it, so we skim and burn our eyes on a lot of toxic sludge.

 But there are examples of non-profit curated sources with some skill
 and class that are attracting increased attention. Not to everyone's
 taste, but http://thisisnthappiness.com/ is one of my consistent
 faves. The Tumblr site encourages amateur curating, and some folks
 exhibit excellent taste there.

 Perhaps we'll be saved by self-financed patrons and philanthropists.

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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread mike wilson

On 08/09/2012 20:17, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Nice!
Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill?


Until _all_ of the squealing is coming from the tyres, there is no such 
thing as brake overkill.




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Subject: PESO for the motorcycle geeks



Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint
owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage
yard :-)
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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Steven Desjardins wrote:

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com 
wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

That's what Kawasakis are for:  Parts.

 Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship
 races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the
 hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!)

Nice Upgrade, BTW.

 The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding
 could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better.
 Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed
 in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana
 I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now
 *that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!)

I would have said the same thing for Honda.  I can't pick on Suzuki
because Debbie has one.

I *loved* my 1986 Honda VFR. Wish I'd been able to keep it in addition
to the Triumph but it just wasn't possible. Honda made every redesign
of that bike worse after 86-87: More and more electronic gizmos,
linked brakes, pseudo VTEC valve system... and now it's a 1200cc
behemoth with shaft drive. Oh yes, and they got uglier every year
after the 86-87 model.

The only Honda I ever lusted after was the RC-30 but I'm glad I was
never able to afford one because they apparently were better race
bikes than street bikes: the hand-laid fiberglass was beautiful but
much more porous than the cheaper machine-made fiberglass (or ABS
plastic), so the paint bubbled and peeled after a few years; two-ring
pistons are nice for getting minimum friction/maximum horsepower but
they let the bike burn oil at a prodigious rate.

I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling
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OT Posterior vitreous detachment

2012-09-08 Thread mike wilson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment

Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may 
suffer a premium increase for consulting.


Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my 
left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was 
nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of 
floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the 
local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a 
checkup, where the above was diagnosed.


A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself. 
Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare 
- I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the 
opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that 
it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark 
patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole 
rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur 
at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article.


So there you go.


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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote:

On 08/09/2012 20:17, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Nice!
 Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill?

Until _all_ of the squealing is coming from the tyres, there is no such 
thing as brake overkill.

My road racer was a Yam FZR 400. The Triumph will never decelerate
like that bike (I used to pull small stoppies coming into turn 12 at
Nelson Ledges just for fun) unless I spend 5-figure sums on Brembos.
Not gonna happen.
 
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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I really like 12, 16, and 21.  Very nice gallery overall.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-09-08 12:51 Bob W wrote

 It's only by walking or cycling that you can really learn a city,
 in my view.


 i agree, and i had a great time walking in Paris, taking unplanned turns and
 grooming my internal geographic sense, as i have in most every other major
 city i've visited; but the only city that i've cycled where i didn't
 currently live was San Francisco



 I'm not familiar with the rue Beaunier, although my map tells me it's
 quite
 close to the Parc Montsouris, which I visited on Thursday and which is one
 of my favourite parts of Paris.


 yes, you found it, just an unremarkable residential street; the company i
 worked for rented an apartment there for DrupalCon 2009; Parc Montsouris was
 our introduction to Paris when we emerged from the adjacent train station;
 then we walked through it repeatedly commuting to the conference



 Indeed, if I retire to Paris when the time
 comes that is the likeliest area for me to look for somewhere to live.
 That's the South-East part of Paris, whereas I was more North Central,
 other
 side of the river.


 being unfamiliar with Barbès, i found the wrong one — Rue Barbès is a few
 blocks SE of Rue Beaunier, which in turn is south of Montparnasse; but now i
 see the Barbès-Rochechuart Metro station and Boulevard de Barbès (in one of
 your photos) way across town



 This was my approximate route from the apartment on the Wednesday -
 further
 than I thought or planned. It took a very long time to hobble all that
 way,
 I can assure you:
 http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?zoom_level=12submit=go


 alas that link doesn't work for sharing, but i can imagine the long
 contorted path your hobble traced



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Re: Paris

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just curious, what camera did you use?

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I really like 12, 16, and 21.  Very nice gallery overall.

 On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:30 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-09-08 12:51 Bob W wrote

 It's only by walking or cycling that you can really learn a city,
 in my view.


 i agree, and i had a great time walking in Paris, taking unplanned turns and
 grooming my internal geographic sense, as i have in most every other major
 city i've visited; but the only city that i've cycled where i didn't
 currently live was San Francisco



 I'm not familiar with the rue Beaunier, although my map tells me it's
 quite
 close to the Parc Montsouris, which I visited on Thursday and which is one
 of my favourite parts of Paris.


 yes, you found it, just an unremarkable residential street; the company i
 worked for rented an apartment there for DrupalCon 2009; Parc Montsouris was
 our introduction to Paris when we emerged from the adjacent train station;
 then we walked through it repeatedly commuting to the conference



 Indeed, if I retire to Paris when the time
 comes that is the likeliest area for me to look for somewhere to live.
 That's the South-East part of Paris, whereas I was more North Central,
 other
 side of the river.


 being unfamiliar with Barbès, i found the wrong one — Rue Barbès is a few
 blocks SE of Rue Beaunier, which in turn is south of Montparnasse; but now i
 see the Barbès-Rochechuart Metro station and Boulevard de Barbès (in one of
 your photos) way across town



 This was my approximate route from the apartment on the Wednesday -
 further
 than I thought or planned. It took a very long time to hobble all that
 way,
 I can assure you:
 http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?zoom_level=12submit=go


 alas that link doesn't work for sharing, but i can imagine the long
 contorted path your hobble traced



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Re: OT fifty worst cars of all time

2012-09-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 8/30/2012 6:13 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Aug 30, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


The Maserati, with apologies to Joe Walsh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiORhKnwXF4

re: The Yugo
There is one that my coworker drives an hour to work (each way) every
day M-F. Here it is, with him at the wheel, in acton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JftYNIbXLAk

Some years ago I was talking with a couple at a party.  They had had a Fiat 
whcih pretty much lived up to Fiats reputation for reliability, but had 
recently traded it in on a new car.  I congratulated them and commented that 
the only thing less reliable than a Fiat was a Yugo, which was a Fiat made by 
communists.  The crestfallen look of dismay on their faces was priceless.

Yes, they had replaced their Fiat with a Yugo.


I once witnessed the bumper fall off a brand new Yugo while it was just 
sitting on the dealers lot.  Impressively bad quality control.




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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Steven Desjardins
I have no issues with any brand, really.  My biggest regretted
no-purchase was 3 years ago.  A 76 Honda CBR750a (14000 miles) with
a Texas Sidecar for $3K.  Great condition, ran well, etc.  The a had
an automatic transmission while was evidently fairly bulletproof.  I
had convinced myself to buy it but changed my mind.

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com 
wrote:
 Steven Desjardins wrote:

That's what Kawasakis are for:  Parts.

 Ooh, that's a bit harsh! Watch tomorrow's World Superbike Championship
 races (Germany) and you'll see what a Kawasaki is good for in the
 hands of someone who knows how to use it! (Go Tom Sykes!)

Nice Upgrade, BTW.

 The original calipers always had problems and no amount of bleeding
 could achieve a good, solid brake lever feel. These are much better.
 Lever effort is a bit high and if it doesn't improve as the pads bed
 in I'll try different pads. If that doesn't achieve braking nirvana
 I'm told a master cylinder from a Suzuki Hayabusa works a treat! (Now
 *that's* a squid bike that's only good for parts!)

I would have said the same thing for Honda.  I can't pick on Suzuki
because Debbie has one.

 I *loved* my 1986 Honda VFR. Wish I'd been able to keep it in addition
 to the Triumph but it just wasn't possible. Honda made every redesign
 of that bike worse after 86-87: More and more electronic gizmos,
 linked brakes, pseudo VTEC valve system... and now it's a 1200cc
 behemoth with shaft drive. Oh yes, and they got uglier every year
 after the 86-87 model.

 The only Honda I ever lusted after was the RC-30 but I'm glad I was
 never able to afford one because they apparently were better race
 bikes than street bikes: the hand-laid fiberglass was beautiful but
 much more porous than the cheaper machine-made fiberglass (or ABS
 plastic), so the paint bubbled and peeled after a few years; two-ring
 pistons are nice for getting minimum friction/maximum horsepower but
 they let the bike burn oil at a prodigious rate.

 I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling
 around Boston.

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Re: PESO - Hilltop Fmhse, Many Orig Features, Needs TLC

2012-09-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very nice subject  capture Rick.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PESO - Hilltop Fmhse, Many Orig Features, Needs TLC

An excellent shot, Rick. Just how old might that place be?


On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 ...as a realtor's/estate agent's listing might say.  Yorkshire is full of 
 these, which is a bit sad.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16443672size=lg

 (K-5, DA 16-45)

 Comments always welcome.


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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Kenneth Waller
Reminds me of a quote attributed to Mark Donohue when asked 'how much is enough 
power'
He said when I can spin the rear wheels in top gear at the end of the straight.

-Original Message-
From: mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com
Subject: Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

On 08/09/2012 20:17, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Nice!
 Are those 6 piston? Seems like overkill?

Until _all_ of the squealing is coming from the tyres, there is no such 
thing as brake overkill.


 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com
 Subject: PESO for the motorcycle geeks


 Every time a young punk totals his Kawasaki ZX-7 a Triumph Sprint
 owner gets to upgrade his brake calipers with parts from the salvage
 yard :-)
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/brakes.jpg

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Re: PESO for the motorcycle geeks

2012-09-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

I'd love to get something silly like a Royan Enfield for tooling
around Boston.

That should, of course, be *Royal* Enfield. But the curious thing is
that my spell checker didn't catch it. I must have the Dave Brooks
edition installed...
 
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PESO - Girl with the Flower Tattoo

2012-09-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/the-girl-with-flower-tatoo.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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RE: OT GESO - Biennale of Sydney Cockatoo Island

2012-09-08 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The second one (in the mist) is particularly stunning.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
Sent: September 8, 2012 9/8/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT GESO - Biennale of Sydney Cockatoo Island


The Biennale has been on since July, but in one of those sad boo-boos,
I could only make it on the second last weekend of the shooo.
Rather good this year it was, too.
Feel free to make jokes about a cockatoo.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_cockatoo/index.htm

TIL - insect genitalia are mesmerisingly beautiful, but gee they must hurt


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