Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:44 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> CR is not for the enthusiast.
> 
> Of anything.
> 
> Back when I read the odd high end stereo mag like Stereophile or Absolute 
> Sound (Are either of those still around? I don't know...) they decried CR 
> stereo ratings: "This Naim amplifier seems sturdily built and rugged, and it 
> measures quite good although at only 15 watts per side it's not very 
> powerful. At 1/10th the price we recommend this Sansui receiver with 200 
> watts per channel and even better measurements than the Naim. Plus, the 
> Sansui has a built-in tuner and pre-amp! A much better value! We did 
> double-blind AB testing and 8 out of 10 listeners couldn't tell the 
> difference..."


For the people who read and believe CR, the Sansui was probably a better buy.  
Also, 8 out of 10 probably couldn't tell the difference.

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RE: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Igor Roshchin
> >
> 
> And the Russian president fooled cranes. ... two (according to the
> video):
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2012/sep/06/vladimir-putin-
> flies-crane-russia
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/06/putin-hang-glider-
> endangered-cranes
> 

What a guy!



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Re: OT: WinXP boot problems.

2012-10-01 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-10-02 1:32, P. J. Alling wrote:

OK I'm at my wits end on this.

After installing an update to my Laptop the machine won't boot. Well not
quite anyway.  It goes through post and then stops at a blinking curser
on a blank black screen.   So I built a slipstream recovery disk with
the proper drivers on it and then attempted all manner of recovery.  I
rebuilt boot.ini.  Still no boot.  I rebuilt the boot sector, no boot. I
rewrote the mbr, no boot.  I did a full repair of windows.  (Did I
mention the drive tests out as just ducky?), no boot.  I reinstalled
windows preserving drivers, laptop restarts no boot.   Now here's the
salient issue.  I'm using it right now.  On startup the laptop gives the
option for a one time boot menu, which includes all attached bootable
devices, including the internal harddrive.  Just for laughs selected the
that drive and it boots!  WTF.   Now I know this isn't a tech forum but
heck, I've tried all of the ones I usually frequent and no one has a
solution to this.  This is causing me to tear out what's left of my hair
and I don't want to look like Cotty.


Hmm, that's an odd one, dude.  Did you use Windows to try to fix up the 
MBR, partition boot record, etc.?  If so, maybe try it again with a 
Linux distribution geared to system recovery?  I have to wonder if one 
or more of those tools is assuming that it knows better than you and not 
actually writing a new loader.  It almost sounds like a UEFI boot where 
the crypto certificates have gotten corrupted.


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Re: A cautionary tale about using someone else's photos - That was Bloody Qucik!

2012-10-01 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Brian Walters :


Quoting steve harley :


on 2012-09-30 4:17 Brian Walters wrote
Just two days ago I discovered one of my photos being used in this  
blog post:


http://berkeleygardencoach.com/2011/12/31/the-proteaceae-family/

(the 4th photo is mine - it's been reproduced at low res but it's  
still mine

and I suspect that the other photos have been nicked as well.)


the state of copyright is miserable; it makes sense until you think  
about it; only a fraction of those who make a living from copyright  
enforcement are productive members of society; the laws are  
antiques, but their antiqueness is constantly updated to keep  
Mickey Mouse in copyright; the DMCA is like the Guantanamo Bay of  
copyright


nonetheless, i see this as a case where DMCA could be useful, after  
a few steps of unsuccessful escalation; it would get Heidi's  
attention; i doubt she gets much business from her website, and one  
positive thing about DMCA, when it is not abused, is it gets quick  
results without causing huge expenses for the infractor




I've sent her a polite letter questioning her ethics.  I doubt that  
will get any response but we'll see.  I might follow up with DCMA if  
only because she's nicked lots of other people's photos and her blog  
appears to republish entire articles far in excess of what I'd  
regard as 'fair use'.  Of course, she may have permission to  
republish, but I doubt it.





I got a reply back from Heidi (Berkeley Garden Coach) in less that 30  
minutes.  She has offered to take the photo down

but I've told her she can leave it if I'm acknowledged as the owner.

Interesting...


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OT: WinXP boot problems.

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling

OK I'm at my wits end on this.

After installing an update to my Laptop the machine won't boot. Well not 
quite anyway.  It goes through post and then stops at a blinking curser 
on a blank black screen.   So I built a slipstream recovery disk with 
the proper drivers on it and then attempted all manner of recovery.  I 
rebuilt boot.ini.  Still no boot.  I rebuilt the boot sector, no boot.  
I rewrote the mbr, no boot.  I did a full repair of windows.  (Did I 
mention the drive tests out as just ducky?), no boot.  I reinstalled 
windows preserving drivers, laptop restarts no boot.   Now here's the 
salient issue.  I'm using it right now.  On startup the laptop gives the 
option for a one time boot menu, which includes all attached bootable 
devices, including the internal harddrive.  Just for laughs selected the 
that drive and it boots!  WTF.   Now I know this isn't a tech forum but 
heck, I've tried all of the ones I usually frequent and no one has a 
solution to this.  This is causing me to tear out what's left of my hair 
and I don't want to look like Cotty.


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Re: A cautionary tale about using someone else's photos

2012-10-01 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting steve harley :


on 2012-09-30 4:17 Brian Walters wrote
Just two days ago I discovered one of my photos being used in this  
blog post:


http://berkeleygardencoach.com/2011/12/31/the-proteaceae-family/

(the 4th photo is mine - it's been reproduced at low res but it's still mine
and I suspect that the other photos have been nicked as well.)


that same image appears here too, possibly with permission:



(there's a link below the image to the source site, but that's a  
pretty weak form of credit)




I hadn't been aware of that one but at least there's a link to the source.

It's a wedding blog that now seems defunct - I wonder if there's  
trouble in paradise...






the state of copyright is miserable; it makes sense until you think  
about it; only a fraction of those who make a living from copyright  
enforcement are productive members of society; the laws are  
antiques, but their antiqueness is constantly updated to keep Mickey  
Mouse in copyright; the DMCA is like the Guantanamo Bay of copyright


nonetheless, i see this as a case where DMCA could be useful, after  
a few steps of unsuccessful escalation; it would get Heidi's  
attention; i doubt she gets much business from her website, and one  
positive thing about DMCA, when it is not abused, is it gets quick  
results without causing huge expenses for the infractor




I've sent her a polite letter questioning her ethics.  I doubt that  
will get any response but we'll see.  I might follow up with DCMA if  
only because she's nicked lots of other people's photos and her blog  
appears to republish entire articles far in excess of what I'd regard  
as 'fair use'.  Of course, she may have permission to republish, but I  
doubt it.




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Re: copyright small claims court

2012-10-01 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-10-01 20:58, Mark Roberts wrote:


Excellent. And long overdue.


Excellent, long overdue, and 100% probability of being ruined by 
Congress before becoming law.


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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-10-01 20:44, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


We did double-blind AB testing and 8 out of 10 listeners couldn't tell the 
difference..."


Odds are that's 100% truth.

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PESO: Lotsa bricks

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Bray
I have a thing about bricks.  Wish I’d had a wider lens on; this is
the SIgma 30mm F1.4: http://goo.gl/56G9l

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RE: Kodak getting out of inkjet printer business

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts


http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/kodak-to-end-consumer-inkjet-printer-sales-cut-more-jobs/2012/09/28/47798482-0978-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html

I thought inkjet printing was going to be their way out of bankruptcy?
Apparently not.


I'm afraid they may not have a way out of bankruptcy.

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, on a serious note, that's doubtless the case. My Zeiss tag line was an 
intentional over-reach.


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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Consumer Reports

Jack Davis wrote:

>I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive. 
>Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula. 
>That might, however, explain the Carl Zeiss "poor" rating.

It was about 30 years ago, so my recollections are surely imperfect,
but I'm pretty sure they were dissing the image quality rather than
"value for money". (Otherwise Keppler wouldn't have spoken up.)

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RE: GESO Fall 2011

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful gallery!

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Fall 2011

Before I start shooting and posting this year's Fall stuff, I think I 
should post these from last year.

C&C always appreciated.



http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall-of-2011/25683157_43MSdJ

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RE: PESO - Three windows

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Lovely photo.

Is that the abandoned military facility south of Lakeshore Blvd. just west of 
Long Branch? If so I always wondered what that was...

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List 
Subject: PESO - Three windows

Inside the sole remaining building of Small Arms Limited, in Lakeview,
Mississauga during Doors Open 2012 on Saturday. There's a proposal to
turn it into an arts center with studio space and such. Most recently
it was used for shooting interior sets of a popular TV show: Lost
Girl, season 3.

During WW2 the grounds contained a 212,000 sq ft munitions factory
that built rifles, machine guns and ammunition. They employed 5,500
people, most of them women.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8045568498/lightbox/

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RE: How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's the way I take photos of people except I use a dslr instead of phone.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Mark Roberts 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

The Oatmeal:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/incredible_photos

 
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RE: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: David J Brooks


I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
and this one through the glasses.

Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

K-5, D FA 16-45 f2


Are those the Blue Blockers? I had a pair at one time. Don't remember
them allowing that much color through.

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Re: Ben Kanarek ponders jump from K-5 to D600 or 6D

2012-10-01 Thread Miserere
On 1 October 2012 20:29, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Interesting blog entry from former PDMLer but still loyal Pentax
> fashion shooter, Benjamin Kanarek. Based on the premise that he wants
> FF but Pentax hasn't delivered, he steps through a decision process of
> comparing the two new "inexpensive" FF's.
>
> Two very interesting related comments in the follow-ups: Benjamin is
> mostly pissed-off at the poor AF of the K5.
>
>   "I need a camera where when go to a shoot, I don't feel paranoid
> that half of my stuff is not in focus... :-("
>
> And when somebody suggested that of course clients would expect him to
> be shooting with one of the top brands or at least the Pentax 645D, he
> retorts:
>
>   "My clients have never once ever scrutinized my camera gear."
>
>
> http://www.benjaminkanarekblog.com/2012/09/28/nikon-d600-canon-6d-question/

Being a Pentax shooter, I suspect he'll choose the Nikon D600 once he
holds them both in his hands; Nikon has the most ergonomic cameras
after Pentax.


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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread Rick Womer
Well, I'll semi- quibble with that.

About a year ago my 1974-vintage Pioneer receiver died.  I replaced it with a 
Yamaha RS-500.  Wow, what a difference!  It inspired me to take apart, clean, 
and rebuild my 1974 Pioneer PL-12D turntable; and they sound wonderful through 
my EPI 100 (also 1974; rebuilt woofers in 1990) speakers.

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From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

Good quality home audio is all but a thing of the past.

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Bob W 
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

That seems to be generally true of audio things these days - I think they
expect people to be permanently wearing headphones, or in the case of TVs to
be plugged into some sort of home cinema set up with
superoctomegatronic-3D-HDQ- surround-sound Dolby bollocks. Or maybe it's
just that I'm a deaf git.

B

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> 
> I have very little experience with mobile phones generally and even
> less with smartphones. In fact my Samsung Galaxy S II with Android is
> my first and only. So I can't compare it with others.
> 
> What I can say, however, is that as a phone it is horrible. I can
> barely hear the person at the other end if there is even the tiniest
> bit of background noise. The sound quality generally is horrible.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
> Christopher Hitchens
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: John Sessoms 
> Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!
> 
> Still waiting for an answer which one is better for making telephone
> calls.
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Re: How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

2012-10-01 Thread Doug Brewer
"Facebook that shit" would make a great t-shirt.

On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> The Oatmeal:
> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/incredible_photos
> 
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

>I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive. 
>Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula. 
>That might, however, explain the Carl Zeiss "poor" rating.

It was about 30 years ago, so my recollections are surely imperfect,
but I'm pretty sure they were dissing the image quality rather than
"value for money". (Otherwise Keppler wouldn't have spoken up.)
 
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Kodak getting out of inkjet printer business

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/kodak-to-end-consumer-inkjet-printer-sales-cut-more-jobs/2012/09/28/47798482-0978-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html

I thought inkjet printing was going to be their way out of bankruptcy?
Apparently not.
 
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Re: OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread Anthony Farr
Only in Scotland would it be so difficult to remove stuff from a
rubbish bin.  That town council must be very protective of its
garbage.

regards, Anthony



On 2 October 2012 09:23, steve harley  wrote:
> on 2012-10-01 5:17 Steve Cottrell wrote
>
>> There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
> i especially like the fellow grabbing at his chum to keep from falling down
> laughing
>
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How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
The Oatmeal:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/incredible_photos

 
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Re: copyright small claims court

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

>http://www.copyright.gov/docs/smallclaims/
>
>The Copyright Act protects a wide variety of works of authorship, from 
>individual articles or photographs that may not have a high commercial value 
>to motion pictures worth hundreds of millions of dollars in the marketplace. 
>The copyright owners of all of these works can use copyright law to pursue 
>certain unauthorized uses. Not all of these copyright owners, however, have 
>the same resources to bring a federal lawsuit, which can require substantial 
>time, money, and effort. Moreover, while a copyright owner may want to stop an 
>infringement that caused a relatively small amount of economic damage, that 
>owner may be dissuaded from filing a lawsuit because a potentially small award 
>may not justify the potentially large expense of litigation. While the Act 
>offers the possibility of statutory damages and attorney fees, these benefits 
>are not available in all cases and parties cannot recover them until after the 
>copyright owner has engaged in a potentially long court battle that requires up
>  front costs.
>
>The Copyright Office has been asked by Congress to study the obstacles facing 
>small copyright claims disputes, as well as possible alternatives. 
>Specifically, the Office is to undertake a study to: (1) assess the extent to 
>which authors and other copyright owners are effectively prevented from 
>seeking relief from infringements due to constraints in the current system; 
>and (2) furnish specific recommendations, as appropriate, for changes in 
>administrative, regulatory and statutory authority that will improve the 
>adjudication of small copyright claims and thereby enable all copyright owners 
>to more fully realize the promise of exclusive rights enshrined in our 
>Constitution. The initial notice of inquiry seeks comment on how copyright 
>owners have handled small copyright claims and the obstacles they have 
>encountered, as well as potential alternatives to the current legal system 
>that could better accommodate such claims.

Excellent. And long overdue.
At the present time the only way to file a copyright suit is through
Federal District Court. Slow and expensive (~$10,000). Not worth the
time or money for many claims. Something more accessible is needed.
 
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
CR is not for the enthusiast.

Of anything.

Back when I read the odd high end stereo mag like Stereophile or Absolute Sound 
(Are either of those still around? I don't know...) they decried CR stereo 
ratings: "This Naim amplifier seems sturdily built and rugged, and it measures 
quite good although at only 15 watts per side it's not very powerful. At 1/10th 
the price we recommend this Sansui receiver with 200 watts per channel and even 
better measurements than the Naim. Plus, the Sansui has a built-in tuner and 
pre-amp! A much better value! We did double-blind AB testing and 8 out of 10 
listeners couldn't tell the difference..."

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: steve harley 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT: Consumer Reports

on 2012-10-01 10:19 Daniel J. Matyola wrote
> The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
> "Best Products of the Year."  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
> including two Pentax cameras!

that's interesting and notable, and will get Pentax some sales

i'm with the rest in being very wary of CR's ratings, though; they package 
their results so as to do the thinking for you, and make it hard to parse out 
useful info from all their assumptions about the products and the people who'll 
use them; the best product for their hypothetical average person is rarely the 
right product for me

and that is before the outright mistakes CR often seems to make, as well as the 
fact that they never dare to question consumerism itself; i often consider CR's 
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RE: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
There's people with firearms and dogs and one guy with a dead Canada goose.

These things offend my wimpy vegan left-wing anti-gun city-boy sensibilities.

Otherwise, the leaves are quite pretty. So are the landscapes and churches.

And all silly humour aside it's a beautiful gallery.

Cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: David J Brooks 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax Discuss , Petch Dianne , 
Barbara Brooks , Harry Bolton , David 
Button , Darryl Button 
Subject: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

>From the drive around this past weekend, through Sunderland, Kinmount
and Madawask Ontario. Colours are sectional but closing in fast. This
weekend should be good. Nice reds and oranges this year.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2012-madawaska1/album/index.html

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Ben Kanarek ponders jump from K-5 to D600 or 6D

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Interesting blog entry from former PDMLer but still loyal Pentax
fashion shooter, Benjamin Kanarek. Based on the premise that he wants
FF but Pentax hasn't delivered, he steps through a decision process of
comparing the two new "inexpensive" FF's.

Two very interesting related comments in the follow-ups: Benjamin is
mostly pissed-off at the poor AF of the K5.

  "I need a camera where when go to a shoot, I don't feel paranoid
that half of my stuff is not in focus... :-("

And when somebody suggested that of course clients would expect him to
be shooting with one of the top brands or at least the Pentax 645D, he
retorts:

  "My clients have never once ever scrutinized my camera gear."


http://www.benjaminkanarekblog.com/2012/09/28/nikon-d600-canon-6d-question/

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RE: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
...And this is why we hate you so...

;-)

Beautiful set, Mark!

cheers,
frank

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From: Mark Roberts 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
posted already).
http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html

 
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Re: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Excellent gallery, Dave. Especially love 2014, 2036, 2064.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:17 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> From the drive around this past weekend, through Sunderland, Kinmount
> and Madawask Ontario. Colours are sectional but closing in fast. This
> weekend should be good. Nice reds and oranges this year.
>
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2012-madawaska1/album/index.html
>
> Dave
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Re: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Quality over quantity wins. :-) All very beautiful.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
> year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
> through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
> lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
> posted already).
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html
>
>
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Re: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Agreed!

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Beautiful pano.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: George Sinos 
> Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano
>
> Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
> yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
> to see if I could catch a little Fall color.
>
> That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
> started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
> spend an hour or so.
>
> This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
> identified by the PDML bird experts.
>
> A few more photos from the day are here.
> 
>
> gs
>
> George Sinos
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Re: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Love those blue skies. It was worth playing with that church steeple pic. The 
second from the left in the top row is my favorite. 
Paul
On Oct 1, 2012, at 7:17 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> From the drive around this past weekend, through Sunderland, Kinmount
> and Madawask Ontario. Colours are sectional but closing in fast. This
> weekend should be good. Nice reds and oranges this year.
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2012-madawaska1/album/index.html
> 
> Dave
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Re: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful set. I especially "Light rays on the Blu Ridge." Yeah, it's not en 
original concept, but it's just so damn pretty.
Paul

On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
> year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
> through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
> lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
> posted already).
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html
> 
> 
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-10-01 10:19 Daniel J. Matyola wrote

The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
"Best Products of the Year."  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!


that's interesting and notable, and will get Pentax some sales

i'm with the rest in being very wary of CR's ratings, though; they package 
their results so as to do the thinking for you, and make it hard to parse out 
useful info from all their assumptions about the products and the people who'll 
use them; the best product for their hypothetical average person is rarely the 
right product for me


and that is before the outright mistakes CR often seems to make, as well as the 
fact that they never dare to question consumerism itself; i often consider CR's 
data for major purchases, but i also often agree with their conclusions




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Re: OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-10-01 5:17 Steve Cottrell wrote

There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...




i especially like the fellow grabbing at his chum to keep from falling down 
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copyright small claims court

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen


http://www.copyright.gov/docs/smallclaims/

The Copyright Act protects a wide variety of works of authorship, from 
individual articles or photographs that may not have a high commercial value to 
motion pictures worth hundreds of millions of dollars in the marketplace. The 
copyright owners of all of these works can use copyright law to pursue certain 
unauthorized uses. Not all of these copyright owners, however, have the same 
resources to bring a federal lawsuit, which can require substantial time, 
money, and effort. Moreover, while a copyright owner may want to stop an 
infringement that caused a relatively small amount of economic damage, that 
owner may be dissuaded from filing a lawsuit because a potentially small award 
may not justify the potentially large expense of litigation. While the Act 
offers the possibility of statutory damages and attorney fees, these benefits 
are not available in all cases and parties cannot recover them until after the 
copyright owner has engaged in a potentially long court battle that requires up 
front costs.

The Copyright Office has been asked by Congress to study the obstacles facing 
small copyright claims disputes, as well as possible alternatives. 
Specifically, the Office is to undertake a study to: (1) assess the extent to 
which authors and other copyright owners are effectively prevented from seeking 
relief from infringements due to constraints in the current system; and (2) 
furnish specific recommendations, as appropriate, for changes in 
administrative, regulatory and statutory authority that will improve the 
adjudication of small copyright claims and thereby enable all copyright owners 
to more fully realize the promise of exclusive rights enshrined in our 
Constitution. The initial notice of inquiry seeks comment on how copyright 
owners have handled small copyright claims and the obstacles they have 
encountered, as well as potential alternatives to the current legal system that 
could better accommodate such claims.

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Re: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread David J Brooks
;lovely as always

Dave

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
> year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
> through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
> lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
> posted already).
> http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html
>
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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread Igor Roshchin

Mon Oct 1 17:34:43 EDT 2012
Bob W wrote:

> > From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On
> > Behalf Of
> > knarftheriault at gmail.com
> > 
> > Whether they are real or not, someone sure went to town with the
> > saturation on many of them.
> > 
> > And I really doubt.those guys in the panda suits fooled that baby
> > panda
> > for a minute.
> > 
> 
> they do! There was a documentary on TV here a few months ago about some
> pandas that were coming to a zoo here, Edinburgh I think, and they wear
> those panda suits so that the baby pandas don't become used to being around
> humans, so that way they (the humans) can release them (the pandas) into
> the wild.
> 
> B
> 

And the Russian president fooled cranes. ... two (according to the
video):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2012/sep/06/vladimir-putin-flies-crane-russia
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/06/putin-hang-glider-endangered-cranes

:-)

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen
Considering the nadaring they tried to do on the Suzuki Samurai, I am not 
inclined to trust anything that CR says.


On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
> "Best Products of the Year."  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
> including two Pentax cameras!  The K-5 is 9th, and the Kr is 11th,
> although both have the same total score (67) and are separated by an
> evil N***n product, the D5100.  The twelve include 4 each from C***N
> and N***N, 2 from Pentax, and one each from Oly and Sony.
> 
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GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
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http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html

 
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RE: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Your dog makes the shot!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

In looking over images for my October PUG entry (Doors), I came across
this door from a gourmet pet food store in our town.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489220

Comments are always welcome and appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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RE: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Cool!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: David J Brooks 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax Discuss , Petch Dianne , 
Harry Bolton , Barbara Brooks 
Subject: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
and this one through the glasses.

Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

K-5, D FA 16-45 f2

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RE: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful pano.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: George Sinos 
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
spend an hour or so.

This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
identified by the PDML bird experts.

A few more photos from the day are here.


gs

George Sinos

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RE: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Just a mention of two Pentax products is great!

CR doesn't cater to photographers and I'd even doubt that a photographer 
reviewed them. I am sure that they just plug in numbers and a winner is spit 
out. Can't image they have time for much (any?) real world handling or picture 
taking.

Cheers,
frank


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The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
"Best Products of the Year."  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!  The K-5 is 9th, and the Kr is 11th,
although both have the same total score (67) and are separated by an
evil N***n product, the D5100.  The twelve include 4 each from C***N
and N***N, 2 from Pentax, and one each from Oly and Sony.


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RE: PESO: Taboo !

2012-10-01 Thread Bob W
they look like an army of aliens armed with candy floss.

B

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Daniel J. Matyola
> 
> I'm afraid I don't understand that comment, Bob.
> Dan Matyola
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> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> > that candy floss (cotton candy) looks like it could do some damage.
> > B
> 


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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Steve. I'm a bit more cheerful now a week and a half later.

;-)

Yours is interesting! Sometimes the accidental ones work best.

:-)

cheers,
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on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote
> I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just 
> got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was fooling 
> around with mine a bit and "flipped" the camera around and took my own photo.
>
> Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after 
> two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I 
> looked:
>
>   
> http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270
>

not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a cold 
light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some similarities to your; 
i use it as an avatar




> Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.

i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's lymphoma, the 
second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in between 
had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he looked a bit 
ragged, but his cheer was overriding, and i imagine yours is too, most days





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RE: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Looks really hot on my android but it works. Love that deep blue background!

Cheers,
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Subject: PESO: Bud

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531

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Re: OT GESO - Labour Day

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Very enjoyable gallery, Derby. #1 is great; #8: very funny; #9: love
the shadows and lines.

I like where your new gallery s/w is going too. Nice.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> Beautiful run of weather lately, and being a long weekend made it even
> nicer. Continuing on my project of revisiting little-used lenses, I took the
> Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but since
> acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the Avenon. It
> might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of spherical aberration,
> this lens has a lot of "glow", especially when shooting contre-jour. But it
> really gives it character. Matched with the equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the
> combo is a good reminder to me that I don't need to be on the technological
> bleeding edge.
>
> As it happens, I also hit the generous (not) limit of space allocated by my
> ISP for the website, so I razed it to the ground and started anew. Still
> work in progress, so please excuse the plaster dust. Not quite sure why the
> little prev/next arrows don't come up when hovering over the pics, so click
> on the left or right of the large images to navigate.
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html
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Re: PESO: Taboo !

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Cool image! They almost look like aliens.

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: PESO: Taboo !

It was a very serious matter in Hawaii as well.

All Polynesian languages are closely related to each other.  When Cook
first landed in Hawaii, he was able to communicate quite well with the
Hawaiians through the Polynesians he already had on his crew.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489344
>>
>> Taboo is a Tahitian word.  This is the Hawai'ian equivilant.
>
> Interesting.  The Maori word is quite similar, Tapu, and it's a pretty 
> serious thing.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapu_(Polynesian_culture)
>
> Cheers,
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RE: OT GESO - Labour Day

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love the Darryl Lee Chocolate interior. Usually I prefer your people shots but 
the atmosphere in this one is incredible.

Wonderful conversions, too!

cheers,
frank  

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Subject: OT GESO - Labour Day


Beautiful run of weather lately, and being a long weekend made it even 
nicer. Continuing on my project of revisiting little-used lenses, I took 
the Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but 
since acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the 
Avenon. It might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of 
spherical aberration, this lens has a lot of "glow", especially when 
shooting contre-jour. But it really gives it character. Matched with the 
equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the combo is a good reminder to me that I don't 
need to be on the technological bleeding edge.

As it happens, I also hit the generous (not) limit of space allocated by 
my ISP for the website, so I razed it to the ground and started anew. 
Still work in progress, so please excuse the plaster dust. Not quite 
sure why the little prev/next arrows don't come up when hovering over 
the pics, so click on the left or right of the large images to navigate.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html


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RE: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> 
> Whether they are real or not, someone sure went to town with the
> saturation on many of them.
> 
> And I really doubt.those guys in the panda suits fooled that baby panda
> for a minute.
> 

they do! There was a documentary on TV here a few months ago about some
pandas that were coming to a zoo here, Edinburgh I think, and they wear
those panda suits so that the baby pandas don't become used to being around
humans, so that way they (the humans) can release them (the pandas) into the
wild.

B


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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Whether they are real or not, someone sure went to town with the saturation on 
many of them.

And I really doubt.those guys in the panda suits fooled that baby panda for a 
minute.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

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or taken with an extreme long lens at a considerable distance.

On 8/31/2012 3:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> I like the poodle moth.  As for the moon, it might be an extreme crop.
>   Or a picture from an alternate dimension.
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> Well, I'd say they are all real images, but not all are real
>> photographs (I think most of them are, though).
>> The two that appear to me the most manipulated/artificial are the
>> Aurora Borealis one (particularly if you look at the water
>> "reflection" you'll see that reality is not being presented)
>> and also the Rio super moon (note the clouds over the mountain tops on
>> the left and how they seem to magically disappear when they get to the
>> moon). This just looks like a composite of two shots.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>> wrote:
>>> Are they all for real?
>>>
>>> http://www.buzzfeed.com/microsoftoutlook/20-amazing-photos-you-dont-want-to-miss-76ab
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PESO - House with a view #1

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
Dan ,among others asked about my view.
I responded that I didn't have any good pics so far. Now I think I
have one, maybe two. So more may come.

http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/10/house-with-view-1.html

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Re: PESO - Espresso to Go

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Dan! Glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers,
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Looks great, Frank.
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:40 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Recently seen outside the Jet Fuel Cafe:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/espresso-to-go.html
>
> The Jet Fuel is a favourite meeting place before and after weekend rides.
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: Playing with shadows

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
I like the effect like you show here, but I agree that sharper edged
shadows would be great.

To get a sharp shadow you want your light rays parallel, so setup the
flash as far away as you can and yet still control it and get enough
light. No modifiers on it, except try the grid.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> When I sit out at night on the bench by the river in my back yard, I keep 
> noticing the shadow cast by my bicycle onto the dance floor.  Last night, I 
> put my strobe on the upstairs back porch, with the shade to direct the light, 
> and got some photos of the shadows cast.   I'm not entirely pleased with the 
> results, I'd like sharper shadows all of the way around.
> I had thought about putting the grid on the strobe, another possibility is 
> taking the shade off (almost the opposite) which would make the light source 
> smaller, and therfore sharper/harder.  Another possibility would be some foil 
>  over the end of a shade with a smaller hold in the middle, for an even 
> smaller relative light source.
>
> Has anyone tried something along these lines? Or have other suggestions?
>
> For reference, here is a shot from last night:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8042908138/in/set-72157631665170226
>
> note that the shadows are nice and sharp at the bottom, but a bit fuzzy and 
> rough at top.
>
> There are also probably other things I could do by setting the light up along 
> the 30-50 foot length of the dance floor and deck, rather than the 20 foot 
> width, and shooting down from a ladder to get a higher angle.
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Re: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
I like it Dan.

I do think a little selective darkening of his reproductive anatomy
might be prudent though. ;-)

What's PG-17 in dog years?


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> In looking over images for my October PUG entry (Doors), I came across
> this door from a gourmet pet food store in our town.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489220
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Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
That's kinda cool, Dave. Hipness sans iPhone app. :-)


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> I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
> the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
> so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
> church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
> and this one through the glasses.
>
> Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
> and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream
>
> K-5, D FA 16-45 f2
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Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread kwaller

And Tom Till admitted his were over the top.   ; +}

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From: "Tim Bray" 

Subject: Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses



Compelling. Has a bit of a horror-movie feel, somehow.  -T

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:59 AM, David J Brooks  
wrote:

I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
and this one through the glasses.

Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

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PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In looking over images for my October PUG entry (Doors), I came across
this door from a gourmet pet food store in our town.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489220

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Re: photos from ostrava

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Emil wrote:

> hi all
> 
> last weekend we visited the Nato-days held in Ostrava Airport in Czech 
> Republic
> 
> here is some photo from there:
> http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120920-24-ostrava.html
> 
> I hope at least a couple of them is a little bit more, than a single
> "airplane-shot" :)

Very cool Emil!

I'm going to share the link with some friends who I'm sure will appreciate the 
photos very much.

> 
> best regards
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Playing with shadows

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen
When I sit out at night on the bench by the river in my back yard, I keep 
noticing the shadow cast by my bicycle onto the dance floor.  Last night, I put 
my strobe on the upstairs back porch, with the shade to direct the light, and 
got some photos of the shadows cast.   I'm not entirely pleased with the 
results, I'd like sharper shadows all of the way around.
I had thought about putting the grid on the strobe, another possibility is 
taking the shade off (almost the opposite) which would make the light source 
smaller, and therfore sharper/harder.  Another possibility would be some foil  
over the end of a shade with a smaller hold in the middle, for an even smaller 
relative light source.

Has anyone tried something along these lines? Or have other suggestions?

For reference, here is a shot from last night:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8042908138/in/set-72157631665170226

note that the shadows are nice and sharp at the bottom, but a bit fuzzy and 
rough at top.

There are also probably other things I could do by setting the light up along 
the 30-50 foot length of the dance floor and deck, rather than the 20 foot 
width, and shooting down from a ladder to get a higher angle.

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Re: GESO Fall 2011

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice, especially #5 and #7.  Puts me in the mood for autumn.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Before I start shooting and posting this year's Fall stuff, I think I should
> post these from last year.
>
> C&C always appreciated.
>
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> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall-of-2011/25683157_43MSdJ
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GESO Fall 2011

2012-10-01 Thread Don Guthrie
Before I start shooting and posting this year's Fall stuff, I think I 
should post these from last year.


C&C always appreciated.



http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall-of-2011/25683157_43MSdJ

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RE: OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Steve Cottrell
> 
> There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...
> 
>  19783214>
> 

would have been a very convenient cycle rack with his trousers down.

B


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RE: PESO: Hibiscus

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Both beautiful shots but I love the bloom!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Paul Stenquist 
Sent: September 30, 2012 9/30/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Hibiscus

The tropical hibiscus tree on my deck and a single bloom. I've had it for four 
years now. It spends the winters indoors of course, and I prune it hard every 
spring.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16493132&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16493133&size=lg
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Re: "Student" Cameras Still Film? & the Old Cable Release

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

Right. I understand all that. Lots of different ways to make it work.

The sticking point has been finding a usable socket with the correct
thread to accept the old style cable release without having to murder an
old film camera.


Somewhere in my camera junk box I have an elastic/velcro gizmo that
wraps around a small camera and includes a threaded cable release
socket with delrin push button, specifically designed to do the
shutter release without damaging the button on cameras that don't have
port for a remote. But guess what? The expensive electrical remote
transmits less vibration to the camera and works better.



Yeah, but that expensive electrical remote won't convert the camera half
of the double cable release from the Auto Bellows A into a signal that
will trip the shutter while the lens is stopped down. Leaves me still
stuck with needing three hands.

I will have to take another look at those elastic/velcro gizmos though
to see if I can get a usable socket from one of them.

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Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Bray
Compelling. Has a bit of a horror-movie feel, somehow.  -T

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:59 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
> the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
> so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
> church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
> and this one through the glasses.
>
> Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
> and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream
>
> K-5, D FA 16-45 f2
>
> Dave
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Re: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
Well done image, George!
Here in northern California, we're "enjoying" multiple days of 100F heat. May, 
mercifully, drop to fall temps (84 ish) by this coming weekend.
 I miss Iowa this and every fall.

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- Original Message -
From: George Sinos 
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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 10:56 AM
Subject: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
spend an hour or so.

This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
identified by the PDML bird experts.

A few more photos from the day are here.


gs

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive. 
Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula. 
That might, however, explain the Carl Zeiss "poor" rating.

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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Consumer Reports

"P. J. Alling"  wrote:

>For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
>photographic equipment.

Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of "poor" (and not specifying
what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).

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Re: OT GESO - Labour Day

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/10/12, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I took 
>the Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but 
>since acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the 
>Avenon. It might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of 
>spherical aberration, this lens has a lot of "glow", especially when 
>shooting contre-jour. But it really gives it character. Matched with the 
>equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the combo is a good reminder to me that I don't 
>need to be on the technological bleeding edge.

>http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html

Really excellent gallery Derbs. You are making me miss the R-D1 !! D'you
know what - that camera offers the most 'fun' I've ever had with a
camera of any type ever. I REALLY miss the wind-on lever

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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
Sincerely hope you seriously enjoyed your birthday, Dave!
I forgot about my own, which was Sept 20th. Wrinkled memory I suppose.

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From: David J Brooks 
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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Brooks

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Walt  wrote:
> Happy birthday, Dave!
>
> Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!

no problem, i was a way anyway.:-)

Dave
>
> -- Walt
>
>
> On 10/1/2012 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Steven Desjardins 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Happy Birthday.  Are you really old?
>>
>> Thanks every one.
>>
>> Well i feel old.
>>
>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan 
>>> wrote:

 Yes, a very Happy Birthday to you!  Regards,  Bob S.

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
  wrote:
>
> Indeed!
>
> Many happy returns, Dave.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Larry Colen 
> Sent: September 28, 2012 9/28/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Brooks
>
> Happee Burthday Dave!
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 12:50:24PM -0500, Walt wrote:
> On 10/1/2012 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> >"P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> >
> >>For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
> >>photographic equipment.
> >Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
> >its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
> >Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
> >the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of "poor" (and not specifying
> >what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).
> >
> I suspect it fared poorly in zooming capabilities.

Yeah - that as well.

And, to be fair, I'm sure that for the vast majority of the people who
mostly base their purchases on the Consumer Reports ratings a Zeiss
50mm/f1.4 would be a poor choice of lens.  Come to that, for most of
the time I suspect I'm better off with my DA* 16-50/f2.8 mounted on
my camera than I would be with a Zeiss 50mm/f1.4 (even if there were
a comparable one in Pentax KAF mount). And for the few times where the
extra couple of stops would be useful I've got the A50/1.4 and F50/1.7
lying around.

And that's sticking with a DSLR.  I think the EPL-1 with both the 14-42
and 40-150 probably cost less than the Zeiss lens alone.

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PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread George Sinos
Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
spend an hour or so.

This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
identified by the PDML bird experts.

A few more photos from the day are here.


gs

George Sinos

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Re: "Student" Cameras Still Film? & the Old Cable Release

2012-10-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Right. I understand all that. Lots of different ways to make it work.
>
> The sticking point has been finding a usable socket with the correct
> thread to accept the old style cable release without having to murder an
> old film camera.

Somewhere in my camera junk box I have an elastic/velcro gizmo that
wraps around a small camera and includes a threaded cable release
socket with delrin push button, specifically designed to do the
shutter release without damaging the button on cameras that don't have
port for a remote. But guess what? The expensive electrical remote
transmits less vibration to the camera and works better.

But yes, I still keep an 8" cable release in my tripod kit bag, for
the Leica M9, M4-2, CL, and other cameras that use it. Along with the
electrical remote for each of my cameras that have that capability
(E-1 and GXR at present). I wish I had RF remotes for all my cameras,
that works better for me.

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Walt

On 10/1/2012 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

"P. J. Alling"  wrote:


For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.

Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of "poor" (and not specifying
what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).


I suspect it fared poorly in zooming capabilities.

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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think it's safe to say that the PDML is not populated with a "Justin
Bieber demographic", eh?

How many of us are eleven to nineteen year old high school girls?
Music is the least important part of his celebrity. ;-)

G


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:29 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> Someone took a Bieber song and slowed it down by some ridiculous factor
> maybe 100?  The result was really quite eerily beautiful, almost like whale
> song, otherwise he's just Menudo.
>
>
> On 10/1/2012 8:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> I used JB as the most popular example; not criticizing. I spent some
>> time listening to Top-40 radio during the spring & summer, just for a
>> musical change and update. To my surprise I found quite a bit I liked.
>> I'm a sucker for smart synth-pop. But I didn't care for JB at all.
>>
>> And what eventually drove me crazy (and off those stations) is simply
>> the repetition. I'm musically restless and need variety, the opposite
>> of the Top-40 concept. With remix after remix being released, they are
>> actually playing most of the same tunes now in October that they were
>> playing in April. How can anyone take that? Over and over, the same
>> tunes once per hour. Gah!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Sessoms 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
>>> fuss is about.
>>>
>>> I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
>>> teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
>>> seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
>>> today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
>>> fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).
>>>
>>> I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.
>>>
>>> From: Bruce Walker

 I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
 listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

 Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
 loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
 transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

 Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
 latest Justin Bieber remix they're okay with it.
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 01:30:51PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> >For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
> >photographic equipment.
> 
> Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
> its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
> Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
> the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of "poor" (and not specifying
> what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).

It's CR.  I'll bet a contributing reason was "not good value for money".
They aren't giving ratings based soleley on technical performance.

I expect they'd give a similarly poor rating to a Bugatti Veyron.


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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree with P.J.  As look as they mention Pentax cameras (especially
my cheap but beloved Kr), I am happy.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
>
>>For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
>>photographic equipment.
>
> Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
> its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
> Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
> the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of "poor" (and not specifying
> what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
"P. J. Alling"  wrote:

>For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
>photographic equipment.

Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of "poor" (and not specifying
what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).

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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling

or taken with an extreme long lens at a considerable distance.

On 8/31/2012 3:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I like the poodle moth.  As for the moon, it might be an extreme crop.
  Or a picture from an alternate dimension.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

Well, I'd say they are all real images, but not all are real
photographs (I think most of them are, though).
The two that appear to me the most manipulated/artificial are the
Aurora Borealis one (particularly if you look at the water
"reflection" you'll see that reality is not being presented)
and also the Rio super moon (note the clouds over the mountain tops on
the left and how they seem to magically disappear when they get to the
moon). This just looks like a composite of two shots.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Are they all for real?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/microsoftoutlook/20-amazing-photos-you-dont-want-to-miss-76ab

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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
The giant spider, which is identified as an insect, which it isn't, nor 
is it a spider, is a product of forced perspective.  I expect most of 
them are real in that they are not manipulated in Photoshop.


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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
photographic equipment.  They always seem to be missing the point.  
Judging cameras and lenses by the same criteria you use for washers and 
bicycles is at best silly, yet that's much of what they do.  Still it's 
nice to see that Pentax is making a better washing machine now than in 
the past.


On 10/1/2012 12:19 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
"Best Products of the Year."  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!  The K-5 is 9th, and the Kr is 11th,
although both have the same total score (67) and are separated by an
evil N***n product, the D5100.  The twelve include 4 each from C***N
and N***N, 2 from Pentax, and one each from Oly and Sony.


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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread kwaller

The problem I have with self-portraits is that they tend to look too
much like me.


Not mine!

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait



The problem I have with self-portraits is that they tend to look too
much like me.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM, steve harley  wrote:

on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote

I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine 
just

got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was
fooling around with mine a bit and "flipped" the camera around and took 
my

own photo.

Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was 
after
two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad 
I

looked:


http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270



not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a
cold light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some 
similarities

to your; i use it as an avatar






Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.



i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's 
lymphoma,

the second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in
between had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he 
looked a
bit ragged, but his cheer was overriding, and i imagine yours is too, 
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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The problem I have with self-portraits is that they tend to look too
much like me.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote
>
>> I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just
>> got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was
>> fooling around with mine a bit and "flipped" the camera around and took my
>> own photo.
>>
>> Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after
>> two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I
>> looked:
>>
>>
>> http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270
>>
>
> not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth
>
> self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a
> cold light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some similarities
> to your; i use it as an avatar
>
> 
>
>
>
>> Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.
>
>
> i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's lymphoma,
> the second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in
> between had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he looked a
> bit ragged, but his cheer was overriding, and i imagine yours is too, most
> days
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Re: OT - help for pop abusers

2012-10-01 Thread kwaller
He's probably as well known as a leader of photo tours & workshops. He had a 
nice gallery in Moab Utah when I was there in 2010. Like most outdoor pros, 
I suspect he makes a good part of his income leading these tours/workshops.


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Subject: Re: OT - help for pop abusers



On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:42 PM, steve harley  wrote:


on 2012-09-27 19:15 Bruce Walker wrote

Tom Till admits that he is a recovering over-saturator ...

http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/how-to/shooting/digital-pitfalls-a-cautionary-tale.html


fascinating that someone could make a living off that crap; even the 
revised Totem image is unpleasant to me — pretty much what i'd expect from 
a souvenir refrigerator magnet … i guess i should choose an effect, create 
a psuedonym for myself, and abuse it with abandon so that i could have 
more funds and free time for my real photographic interests



But you'd have to become a shrewd marketer and spend a lot of time promoting 
your work to actually make any money.




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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking, Paul.

You are right.  I just noticed that I haven't been adding the lenses,
as I should.  I have edited this one to show it was taken with my DA
18-135.

You may have noticed that I screwed up badly in taking this image, but
it came out fairly well, despite my wort efforts.  

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> Photo.net includes lens information if the photographer enters it.
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:32 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>
>> Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net 
>> details don't include any lens information, arguably more important 
>> information about how a photo was made than the camera body?
>>
>> On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531
>>>
>>> Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote

I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just got a Samsung 
Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was fooling around with mine a bit 
and "flipped" the camera around and took my own photo.

Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after two 
sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I looked:

  
http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270



not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a cold 
light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some similarities to your; 
i use it as an avatar






Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.


i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's lymphoma, the 
second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in between 
had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he looked a bit 
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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for your comments, P.J.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:32 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net
> details don't include any lens information, arguably more important
> information about how a photo was made than the camera body?
>
>
> On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531
>>
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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling

Apparently it does the Camera body information automatically.

On 10/1/2012 11:47 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Photo.net includes lens information if the photographer enters it.


On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:32 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:


Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net 
details don't include any lens information, arguably more important information 
about how a photo was made than the camera body?

On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531

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Re: PESO: Hibiscus

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bob. I much prefer this plant as a tree. I've gradually trimmed lower 
branches to make it taller but have reached the limit, as I now have to put 
boulders in the pot to prevent toppling over on windy days.

Paul


On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> Paul,
> Very nice multi-flora hibiscus.
> I enjoy seeing the tree form,
> especially when you follow up with the close-up blossom.
> The side view is just right.
> Great to see in a northern climate.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> The tropical hibiscus tree on my deck and a single bloom. I've had it for 
>> four years now. It spends the winters indoors of course, and I prune it hard 
>> every spring.
>> 
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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Photo.net includes lens information if the photographer enters it. 


On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:32 AM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net 
> details don't include any lens information, arguably more important 
> information about how a photo was made than the camera body?
> 
> On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Walt

On 10/1/2012 10:34 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Walt  wrote:

Happy birthday, Dave!

Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!

no problem, i was a way anyway.:-)

You must have been with Will...
  

Oh, my.

Reminds me of the old line about the Presbyterians: Wherever you find 
four, you'll find a fifth.


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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:

>On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Walt  wrote:
>> Happy birthday, Dave!
>>
>> Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!
>
>no problem, i was a way anyway.:-)

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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that 
Photo.net details don't include any lens information, arguably more 
important information about how a photo was made than the camera body?


On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Someone took a Bieber song and slowed it down by some ridiculous factor 
maybe 100?  The result was really quite eerily beautiful, almost like 
whale song, otherwise he's just Menudo.


On 10/1/2012 8:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I used JB as the most popular example; not criticizing. I spent some
time listening to Top-40 radio during the spring & summer, just for a
musical change and update. To my surprise I found quite a bit I liked.
I'm a sucker for smart synth-pop. But I didn't care for JB at all.

And what eventually drove me crazy (and off those stations) is simply
the repetition. I'm musically restless and need variety, the opposite
of the Top-40 concept. With remix after remix being released, they are
actually playing most of the same tunes now in October that they were
playing in April. How can anyone take that? Over and over, the same
tunes once per hour. Gah!


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
fuss is about.

I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).

I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.

From: Bruce Walker

I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
latest Justin Bieber remix they're okay with it.


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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
If you've never been exposed to Bieber, you're better off for it.  Let's 
just say that he's the white equivalent of the young, Michael Jackson, 
except Jackson had talent, and a voice, and leave it at that.


On 10/1/2012 7:43 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
fuss is about.

I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).

I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.

From: Bruce Walker

I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 10/1/2012 10:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

Happy Birthday.  Are you really old?

Thanks every one.

Well i feel old.


Just remember the words of that eminent philosopher Groucho Marx, 
"You're only as old as the woman you feel."  Now what you do with that 
advice could well cause you more trouble,. but that's not my problem, 
after all, I'm not married.




Dave

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Yes, a very Happy Birthday to you!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Indeed!

Many happy returns, Dave.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Walt

Happy birthday, Dave!

Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!

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On 10/1/2012 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

Happy Birthday.  Are you really old?

Thanks every one.

Well i feel old.

Dave

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

Yes, a very Happy Birthday to you!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Indeed!

Many happy returns, Dave.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Larry Colen 
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Subject: Brooks

Happee Burthday Dave!

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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
Happy Dayv

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Re: PESO: Taboo !

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It was a very serious matter in Hawaii as well.

All Polynesian languages are closely related to each other.  When Cook
first landed in Hawaii, he was able to communicate quite well with the
Hawaiians through the Polynesians he already had on his crew.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489344
>>
>> Taboo is a Tahitian word.  This is the Hawai'ian equivilant.
>
> Interesting.  The Maori word is quite similar, Tapu, and it's a pretty 
> serious thing.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapu_(Polynesian_culture)
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> Cheers,
> Dave
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Re: Stupid Hardware Question

2012-10-01 Thread William Robb

On 30/09/2012 7:37 PM, David Parsons wrote:

When you say flash, what do you mean?  Does any kind of display flash
garbled like, or just the backlight flash on and off, with nothing
displayed on-screen?


Hi David:
The backlight flashes on and then off. I have to cycle the power button 
half a dozen to a couple of dozen times before the backlight comes on 
and stays on.


thanks





On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:26 PM, William Robb
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Hi:
I have a Samsung 225BW monitor which has decided to go rogue on me. When I
wake up my screens, it will flash on and then off again. If I cycle the
power on and off a few times, it will light up and stay lit.
Is this something that is repairable or should I just trash the thing? It's
my second screen, so I'm not really too concerned that it is kind of a crap
monitor, and I fear that if I replace it, I'll buy another good screen
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