Re: OT - help for pop abusers

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:42 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 on 2012-09-27 19:15 Bruce Walker wrote
 Tom Till admits that he is a recovering over-saturator ...
 
 http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/how-to/shooting/digital-pitfalls-a-cautionary-tale.html
 
 fascinating that someone could make a living off that crap; even the revised 
 Totem image is unpleasant to me — pretty much what i'd expect from a souvenir 
 refrigerator magnet … i guess i should choose an effect, create a psuedonym 
 for myself, and abuse it with abandon so that i could have more funds and 
 free time for my real photographic interests
 
 
But you'd have to become a shrewd marketer and spend a lot of time promoting 
your work to actually make any money.

 

 
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OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19783214



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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
fuss is about.

I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).

I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.

From: Bruce Walker

I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
latest Justin Bieber remix they're okay with it.


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OT GESO - Labour Day

2012-10-01 Thread Derby Chang


Beautiful run of weather lately, and being a long weekend made it even 
nicer. Continuing on my project of revisiting little-used lenses, I took 
the Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but 
since acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the 
Avenon. It might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of 
spherical aberration, this lens has a lot of glow, especially when 
shooting contre-jour. But it really gives it character. Matched with the 
equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the combo is a good reminder to me that I don't 
need to be on the technological bleeding edge.


As it happens, I also hit the generous (not) limit of space allocated by 
my ISP for the website, so I razed it to the ground and started anew. 
Still work in progress, so please excuse the plaster dust. Not quite 
sure why the little prev/next arrows don't come up when hovering over 
the pics, so click on the left or right of the large images to navigate.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html


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Re: OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19783214

American news agencies have a standard tag they add on to the end of
stories like that: Police suspect alcohol may have been involved...

 
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RE: Stupid Hardware Question

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb

Hi:
I have a Samsung 225BW monitor which has decided to go rogue on me. When
I wake up my screens, it will flash on and then off again. If I cycle
the power on and off a few times, it will light up and stay lit.
Is this something that is repairable or should I just trash the thing?
It's my second screen, so I'm not really too concerned that it is kind
of a crap monitor, and I fear that if I replace it, I'll buy another
good screen ().


I did a Google search for Samsung 225BW and Google immediately
suggested Samsung 225BW repair instead. Don't know if that's a good
sign or not, but it gives About 18,800 results (0.25 seconds).

You might be able to do it yourself if you're handy with a soldering iron:

http://www.ccl-la.com/blog/index.php/repairing-the-samsung-225bw-22-monitor/

This model monitor uses the IP-45130A power supply board. Typical
symptoms of a power supply failure are no power, flashing power light
and no display, slow to show picture or a white screen.

Sounds like that might be similar to what you're experiencing.

Don't know what you can do if you're not handy with a soldering iron,
but that's really a question about the structure of our modern
throw-a-way society as a whole.

Around here, there's one retail electronics repair business still
hanging on, so there's a place I could take it to to have it fixed, but
I was going to do it myself, all of the supply houses that I would have
gone to for parts are long gone.

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Re: A cautionary tale about using someone else's photos

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: steve harley

on 2012-09-30 4:17 Brian Walters wrote

Just two days ago I discovered one of my photos being used in this blog post:

http://berkeleygardencoach.com/2011/12/31/the-proteaceae-family/

(the 4th photo is mine - it's been reproduced at low res but it's still mine
and I suspect that the other photos have been nicked as well.)


that same image appears here too, possibly with permission:

http://kweddingbook.blogspot.com/2011/03/next-phase.html

(there's a link below the image to the source site, but that's a pretty weak
form of credit)

the state of copyright is miserable; it makes sense until you think about it;
only a fraction of those who make a living from copyright enforcement are
productive members of society; the laws are antiques, but their antiqueness is
constantly updated to keep Mickey Mouse in copyright; the DMCA is like the
Guantanamo Bay of copyright

nonetheless, i see this as a case where DMCA could be useful, after a few steps
of unsuccessful escalation; it would get Heidi's attention; i doubt she gets
much business from her website, and one positive thing about DMCA, when it is
not abused, is it gets quick results without causing huge expenses for the
infractor


The whole purpose of the DMCA is to make money for Disney-ABC and the
other multi-national corporations. Any benefit DMCA provides to plain old
photographers like you and me is strictly an unintended consequence and
will be eliminated in the next version of the law to be passed by Congress

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Re: OT - help for pop abusers

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:42 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 on 2012-09-27 19:15 Bruce Walker wrote
 Tom Till admits that he is a recovering over-saturator ...

 http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/how-to/shooting/digital-pitfalls-a-cautionary-tale.html

 fascinating that someone could make a living off that crap; even the revised 
 Totem image is unpleasant to me — pretty much what i'd expect from a 
 souvenir refrigerator magnet … i guess i should choose an effect, create a 
 psuedonym for myself, and abuse it with abandon so that i could have more 
 funds and free time for my real photographic interests


 But you'd have to become a shrewd marketer and spend a lot of time promoting 
 your work to actually make any money.

TANSTAAFL? Bugger.

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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
I used JB as the most popular example; not criticizing. I spent some
time listening to Top-40 radio during the spring  summer, just for a
musical change and update. To my surprise I found quite a bit I liked.
I'm a sucker for smart synth-pop. But I didn't care for JB at all.

And what eventually drove me crazy (and off those stations) is simply
the repetition. I'm musically restless and need variety, the opposite
of the Top-40 concept. With remix after remix being released, they are
actually playing most of the same tunes now in October that they were
playing in April. How can anyone take that? Over and over, the same
tunes once per hour. Gah!


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
 fuss is about.

 I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
 teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
 seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
 today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
 fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).

 I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.

 From: Bruce Walker

 I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
 listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

 Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
 loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
 transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

 Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
 latest Justin Bieber remix they're okay with it.


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Re: Stupid Hardware Question

2012-10-01 Thread William Robb

On 30/09/2012 7:37 PM, David Parsons wrote:

When you say flash, what do you mean?  Does any kind of display flash
garbled like, or just the backlight flash on and off, with nothing
displayed on-screen?


Hi David:
The backlight flashes on and then off. I have to cycle the power button 
half a dozen to a couple of dozen times before the backlight comes on 
and stays on.


thanks





On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:26 PM, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi:
I have a Samsung 225BW monitor which has decided to go rogue on me. When I
wake up my screens, it will flash on and then off again. If I cycle the
power on and off a few times, it will light up and stay lit.
Is this something that is repairable or should I just trash the thing? It's
my second screen, so I'm not really too concerned that it is kind of a crap
monitor, and I fear that if I replace it, I'll buy another good screen
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Re: PESO: Taboo !

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
It was a very serious matter in Hawaii as well.

All Polynesian languages are closely related to each other.  When Cook
first landed in Hawaii, he was able to communicate quite well with the
Hawaiians through the Polynesians he already had on his crew.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489344

 Taboo is a Tahitian word.  This is the Hawai'ian equivilant.

 Interesting.  The Maori word is quite similar, Tapu, and it's a pretty 
 serious thing.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapu_(Polynesian_culture)

 Cheers,
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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Walt

Happy birthday, Dave!

Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!

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On 10/1/2012 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Happy Birthday.  Are you really old?

Thanks every one.

Well i feel old.

Dave

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, a very Happy Birthday to you!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Indeed!

Many happy returns, Dave.

Cheers,
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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 10/1/2012 10:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

Happy Birthday.  Are you really old?

Thanks every one.

Well i feel old.


Just remember the words of that eminent philosopher Groucho Marx, 
You're only as old as the woman you feel.  Now what you do with that 
advice could well cause you more trouble,. but that's not my problem, 
after all, I'm not married.




Dave

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Yes, a very Happy Birthday to you!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Indeed!

Many happy returns, Dave.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
If you've never been exposed to Bieber, you're better off for it.  Let's 
just say that he's the white equivalent of the young, Michael Jackson, 
except Jackson had talent, and a voice, and leave it at that.


On 10/1/2012 7:43 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
fuss is about.

I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).

I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.

From: Bruce Walker

I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
latest Justin Bieber remix they're okay with it.





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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Someone took a Bieber song and slowed it down by some ridiculous factor 
maybe 100?  The result was really quite eerily beautiful, almost like 
whale song, otherwise he's just Menudo.


On 10/1/2012 8:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I used JB as the most popular example; not criticizing. I spent some
time listening to Top-40 radio during the spring  summer, just for a
musical change and update. To my surprise I found quite a bit I liked.
I'm a sucker for smart synth-pop. But I didn't care for JB at all.

And what eventually drove me crazy (and off those stations) is simply
the repetition. I'm musically restless and need variety, the opposite
of the Top-40 concept. With remix after remix being released, they are
actually playing most of the same tunes now in October that they were
playing in April. How can anyone take that? Over and over, the same
tunes once per hour. Gah!


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
fuss is about.

I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).

I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.

From: Bruce Walker

I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
latest Justin Bieber remix they're okay with it.


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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that 
Photo.net details don't include any lens information, arguably more 
important information about how a photo was made than the camera body?


On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531

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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy birthday, Dave!

 Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!

no problem, i was a way anyway.:-)

You must have been with Will...
 
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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Walt

On 10/1/2012 10:34 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Happy birthday, Dave!

Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!

no problem, i was a way anyway.:-)

You must have been with Will...
  

Oh, my.

Reminds me of the old line about the Presbyterians: Wherever you find 
four, you'll find a fifth.


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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Photo.net includes lens information if the photographer enters it. 


On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:32 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net 
 details don't include any lens information, arguably more important 
 information about how a photo was made than the camera body?
 
 On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531
 
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Re: PESO: Hibiscus

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bob. I much prefer this plant as a tree. I've gradually trimmed lower 
branches to make it taller but have reached the limit, as I now have to put 
boulders in the pot to prevent toppling over on windy days.

Paul


On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Paul,
 Very nice multi-flora hibiscus.
 I enjoy seeing the tree form,
 especially when you follow up with the close-up blossom.
 The side view is just right.
 Great to see in a northern climate.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
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 The tropical hibiscus tree on my deck and a single bloom. I've had it for 
 four years now. It spends the winters indoors of course, and I prune it hard 
 every spring.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16493132size=lg
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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling

Apparently it does the Camera body information automatically.

On 10/1/2012 11:47 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Photo.net includes lens information if the photographer enters it.


On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:32 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net 
details don't include any lens information, arguably more important information 
about how a photo was made than the camera body?

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531

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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for your comments, P.J.
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 Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net
 details don't include any lens information, arguably more important
 information about how a photo was made than the camera body?


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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote

I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just got a Samsung 
Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was fooling around with mine a bit 
and flipped the camera around and took my own photo.

Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after two 
sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I looked:

  
http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270



not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a cold 
light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some similarities to your; 
i use it as an avatar


https://www.dropbox.com/s/hn91bsiuddeb7pc/IMG_6135_2.jpg?m



Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.


i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's lymphoma, the 
second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in between 
had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he looked a bit 
ragged, but his cheer was overriding, and i imagine yours is too, most days






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Re: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking, Paul.

You are right.  I just noticed that I haven't been adding the lenses,
as I should.  I have edited this one to show it was taken with my DA
18-135.

You may have noticed that I screwed up badly in taking this image, but
it came out fairly well, despite my wort efforts.  G

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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Photo.net includes lens information if the photographer enters it.


 On Oct 1, 2012, at 11:32 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice and sharp.  On a side note have you ever noticed that Photo.net 
 details don't include any lens information, arguably more important 
 information about how a photo was made than the camera body?

 On 10/1/2012 11:16 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531

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Re: OT - help for pop abusers

2012-10-01 Thread kwaller
He's probably as well known as a leader of photo tours  workshops. He had a 
nice gallery in Moab Utah when I was there in 2010. Like most outdoor pros, 
I suspect he makes a good part of his income leading these tours/workshops.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: OT - help for pop abusers



On Sep 30, 2012, at 10:42 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:


on 2012-09-27 19:15 Bruce Walker wrote

Tom Till admits that he is a recovering over-saturator ...

http://www.outdoorphotographer.com/how-to/shooting/digital-pitfalls-a-cautionary-tale.html


fascinating that someone could make a living off that crap; even the 
revised Totem image is unpleasant to me — pretty much what i'd expect from 
a souvenir refrigerator magnet … i guess i should choose an effect, create 
a psuedonym for myself, and abuse it with abandon so that i could have 
more funds and free time for my real photographic interests



But you'd have to become a shrewd marketer and spend a lot of time promoting 
your work to actually make any money.




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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The problem I have with self-portraits is that they tend to look too
much like me.
Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote

 I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just
 got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was
 fooling around with mine a bit and flipped the camera around and took my
 own photo.

 Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after
 two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I
 looked:


 http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270


 not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

 self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a
 cold light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some similarities
 to your; i use it as an avatar

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hn91bsiuddeb7pc/IMG_6135_2.jpg?m



 Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.


 i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's lymphoma,
 the second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in
 between had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he looked a
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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread kwaller

The problem I have with self-portraits is that they tend to look too
much like me.


Not mine!

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Subject: Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait



The problem I have with self-portraits is that they tend to look too
much like me.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:04 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote

I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine 
just

got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was
fooling around with mine a bit and flipped the camera around and took 
my

own photo.

Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was 
after
two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad 
I

looked:


http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270



not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a
cold light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some 
similarities

to your; i use it as an avatar

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hn91bsiuddeb7pc/IMG_6135_2.jpg?m




Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.



i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's 
lymphoma,

the second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in
between had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he 
looked a
bit ragged, but his cheer was overriding, and i imagine yours is too, 
most

days



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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
photographic equipment.  They always seem to be missing the point.  
Judging cameras and lenses by the same criteria you use for washers and 
bicycles is at best silly, yet that's much of what they do.  Still it's 
nice to see that Pentax is making a better washing machine now than in 
the past.


On 10/1/2012 12:19 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
Best Products of the Year.  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!  The K-5 is 9th, and the Kr is 11th,
although both have the same total score (67) and are separated by an
evil N***n product, the D5100.  The twelve include 4 each from C***N
and N***N, 2 from Pentax, and one each from Oly and Sony.


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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling
The giant spider, which is identified as an insect, which it isn't, nor 
is it a spider, is a product of forced perspective.  I expect most of 
them are real in that they are not manipulated in Photoshop.


On 8/31/2012 2:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Are they all for real?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/microsoftoutlook/20-amazing-photos-you-dont-want-to-miss-76ab

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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread P. J. Alling

or taken with an extreme long lens at a considerable distance.

On 8/31/2012 3:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

I like the poodle moth.  As for the moon, it might be an extreme crop.
  Or a picture from an alternate dimension.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, I'd say they are all real images, but not all are real
photographs (I think most of them are, though).
The two that appear to me the most manipulated/artificial are the
Aurora Borealis one (particularly if you look at the water
reflection you'll see that reality is not being presented)
and also the Rio super moon (note the clouds over the mountain tops on
the left and how they seem to magically disappear when they get to the
moon). This just looks like a composite of two shots.

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Are they all for real?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/microsoftoutlook/20-amazing-photos-you-dont-want-to-miss-76ab

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
photographic equipment.

Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of poor (and not specifying
what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree with P.J.  As look as they mention Pentax cameras (especially
my cheap but beloved Kr), I am happy.
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 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.

 Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
 its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
 Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
 the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of poor (and not specifying
 what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 01:30:51PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
 photographic equipment.
 
 Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
 its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
 Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
 the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of poor (and not specifying
 what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).

It's CR.  I'll bet a contributing reason was not good value for money.
They aren't giving ratings based soleley on technical performance.

I expect they'd give a similarly poor rating to a Bugatti Veyron.


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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think it's safe to say that the PDML is not populated with a Justin
Bieber demographic, eh?

How many of us are eleven to nineteen year old high school girls?
Music is the least important part of his celebrity. ;-)

G


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:29 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Someone took a Bieber song and slowed it down by some ridiculous factor
 maybe 100?  The result was really quite eerily beautiful, almost like whale
 song, otherwise he's just Menudo.


 On 10/1/2012 8:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 I used JB as the most popular example; not criticizing. I spent some
 time listening to Top-40 radio during the spring  summer, just for a
 musical change and update. To my surprise I found quite a bit I liked.
 I'm a sucker for smart synth-pop. But I didn't care for JB at all.

 And what eventually drove me crazy (and off those stations) is simply
 the repetition. I'm musically restless and need variety, the opposite
 of the Top-40 concept. With remix after remix being released, they are
 actually playing most of the same tunes now in October that they were
 playing in April. How can anyone take that? Over and over, the same
 tunes once per hour. Gah!


 On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:

 I should probably look Bieber up on YouTube just to know what all the
 fuss is about.

 I try to remember how important some trivial things seemed when I was a
 teen and how it made me feel when my parents dismissed them without ever
 seeming to give them fair consideration. I don't care for much of
 today's popular music, but I try not to criticize without giving it a
 fair hearing (although I do wear hearing protection while doing so).

 I've seen that Gagmestyle video. I thought it was funny clever.

 From: Bruce Walker

 I think we've gone full circle from the 6 Transistor radios that teens
 listened to tinny, static-y mono AM rock'n'roll on.

 Now thanks to MP3's, highly compressed satellite feeds and the
 loudness wars, we have audio just a little better than the old 6
 transistors, but still distorted all to hell.

 Average consumer doesn't care though. As long as they can hear the
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Walt

On 10/1/2012 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:


For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
photographic equipment.

Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of poor (and not specifying
what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).


I suspect it fared poorly in zooming capabilities.

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Re: Student Cameras Still Film? the Old Cable Release

2012-10-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Right. I understand all that. Lots of different ways to make it work.

 The sticking point has been finding a usable socket with the correct
 thread to accept the old style cable release without having to murder an
 old film camera.

Somewhere in my camera junk box I have an elastic/velcro gizmo that
wraps around a small camera and includes a threaded cable release
socket with delrin push button, specifically designed to do the
shutter release without damaging the button on cameras that don't have
port for a remote. But guess what? The expensive electrical remote
transmits less vibration to the camera and works better.

But yes, I still keep an 8 cable release in my tripod kit bag, for
the Leica M9, M4-2, CL, and other cameras that use it. Along with the
electrical remote for each of my cameras that have that capability
(E-1 and GXR at present). I wish I had RF remotes for all my cameras,
that works better for me.

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PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread George Sinos
Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
spend an hour or so.

This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
identified by the PDML bird experts.

A few more photos from the day are here.
http://georges.posterous.com/almost-fall-park-pano

gs

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Oct 01, 2012 at 12:50:24PM -0500, Walt wrote:
 On 10/1/2012 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on
 photographic equipment.
 Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
 its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
 Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
 the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of poor (and not specifying
 what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).
 
 I suspect it fared poorly in zooming capabilities.

Yeah - that as well.

And, to be fair, I'm sure that for the vast majority of the people who
mostly base their purchases on the Consumer Reports ratings a Zeiss
50mm/f1.4 would be a poor choice of lens.  Come to that, for most of
the time I suspect I'm better off with my DA* 16-50/f2.8 mounted on
my camera than I would be with a Zeiss 50mm/f1.4 (even if there were
a comparable one in Pentax KAF mount). And for the few times where the
extra couple of stops would be useful I've got the A50/1.4 and F50/1.7
lying around.

And that's sticking with a DSLR.  I think the EPL-1 with both the 14-42
and 40-150 probably cost less than the Zeiss lens alone.

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Re: Brooks

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
Sincerely hope you seriously enjoyed your birthday, Dave!
I forgot about my own, which was Sept 20th. Wrinkled memory I suppose.

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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: Brooks

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 Happy birthday, Dave!

 Sorry I didn't catch this when it was your actual birthday!

no problem, i was a way anyway.:-)

Dave

 -- Walt


 On 10/1/2012 9:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Happy Birthday.  Are you really old?

 Thanks every one.

 Well i feel old.

 Dave

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Yes, a very Happy Birthday to you!  Regards,  Bob S.

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Indeed!

 Many happy returns, Dave.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 Happee Burthday Dave!

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Re: OT GESO - Labour Day

2012-10-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/10/12, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I took 
the Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but 
since acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the 
Avenon. It might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of 
spherical aberration, this lens has a lot of glow, especially when 
shooting contre-jour. But it really gives it character. Matched with the 
equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the combo is a good reminder to me that I don't 
need to be on the technological bleeding edge.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html

Really excellent gallery Derbs. You are making me miss the R-D1 !! D'you
know what - that camera offers the most 'fun' I've ever had with a
camera of any type ever. I REALLY miss the wind-on lever

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive. 
Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula. 
That might, however, explain the Carl Zeiss poor rating.

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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Consumer Reports

P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

For just about forever, I've disagreed with Consumer Reports on 
photographic equipment.

Once Herbert Keppler wrote an editorial in Modern Photography asking
its readers to warn their friends not to pay attention to Consumer
Reports articles on camera equipment. This was occasioned by CR giving
the Carl Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 lens a rating of poor (and not specifying
what, if any, tests were done to reach this conclusion).

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Re: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
Well done image, George!
Here in northern California, we're enjoying multiple days of 100F heat. May, 
mercifully, drop to fall temps (84 ish) by this coming weekend.
 I miss Iowa this and every fall.

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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 10:56 AM
Subject: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
spend an hour or so.

This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
identified by the PDML bird experts.

A few more photos from the day are here.
http://georges.posterous.com/almost-fall-park-pano

gs

George Sinos

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Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Bray
Compelling. Has a bit of a horror-movie feel, somehow.  -T

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:59 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
 the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
 so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
 church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
 and this one through the glasses.

 Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
 and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

 K-5, D FA 16-45 f2

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Re: Student Cameras Still Film? the Old Cable Release

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Right. I understand all that. Lots of different ways to make it work.

The sticking point has been finding a usable socket with the correct
thread to accept the old style cable release without having to murder an
old film camera.


Somewhere in my camera junk box I have an elastic/velcro gizmo that
wraps around a small camera and includes a threaded cable release
socket with delrin push button, specifically designed to do the
shutter release without damaging the button on cameras that don't have
port for a remote. But guess what? The expensive electrical remote
transmits less vibration to the camera and works better.



Yeah, but that expensive electrical remote won't convert the camera half
of the double cable release from the Auto Bellows A into a signal that
will trip the shutter while the lens is stopped down. Leaves me still
stuck with needing three hands.

I will have to take another look at those elastic/velcro gizmos though
to see if I can get a usable socket from one of them.

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RE: PESO: Hibiscus

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Both beautiful shots but I love the bloom!

cheers,
frank

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Subject: PESO: Hibiscus

The tropical hibiscus tree on my deck and a single bloom. I've had it for four 
years now. It spends the winters indoors of course, and I prune it hard every 
spring.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16493132size=lg
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RE: OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steve Cottrell
 
 There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-
 19783214
 

would have been a very convenient cycle rack with his trousers down.

B


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GESO Fall 2011

2012-10-01 Thread Don Guthrie
Before I start shooting and posting this year's Fall stuff, I think I 
should post these from last year.


CC always appreciated.



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Re: GESO Fall 2011

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice, especially #5 and #7.  Puts me in the mood for autumn.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Before I start shooting and posting this year's Fall stuff, I think I should
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Playing with shadows

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen
When I sit out at night on the bench by the river in my back yard, I keep 
noticing the shadow cast by my bicycle onto the dance floor.  Last night, I put 
my strobe on the upstairs back porch, with the shade to direct the light, and 
got some photos of the shadows cast.   I'm not entirely pleased with the 
results, I'd like sharper shadows all of the way around.
I had thought about putting the grid on the strobe, another possibility is 
taking the shade off (almost the opposite) which would make the light source 
smaller, and therfore sharper/harder.  Another possibility would be some foil  
over the end of a shade with a smaller hold in the middle, for an even smaller 
relative light source.

Has anyone tried something along these lines? Or have other suggestions?

For reference, here is a shot from last night:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8042908138/in/set-72157631665170226

note that the shadows are nice and sharp at the bottom, but a bit fuzzy and 
rough at top.

There are also probably other things I could do by setting the light up along 
the 30-50 foot length of the dance floor and deck, rather than the 20 foot 
width, and shooting down from a ladder to get a higher angle.

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Re: photos from ostrava

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Emil wrote:

 hi all
 
 last weekend we visited the Nato-days held in Ostrava Airport in Czech 
 Republic
 
 here is some photo from there:
 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120920-24-ostrava.html
 
 I hope at least a couple of them is a little bit more, than a single
 airplane-shot :)

Very cool Emil!

I'm going to share the link with some friends who I'm sure will appreciate the 
photos very much.

 
 best regards
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PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
In looking over images for my October PUG entry (Doors), I came across
this door from a gourmet pet food store in our town.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489220

Comments are always welcome and appreciated.

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Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread kwaller

And Tom Till admitted his were over the top.   ; +}

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From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com

Subject: Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses



Compelling. Has a bit of a horror-movie feel, somehow.  -T

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:59 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
and this one through the glasses.

Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

K-5, D FA 16-45 f2

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Re: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
That's kinda cool, Dave. Hipness sans iPhone app. :-)


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:59 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
 the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
 so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
 church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
 and this one through the glasses.

 Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
 and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

 K-5, D FA 16-45 f2

 Dave

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Re: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
I like it Dan.

I do think a little selective darkening of his reproductive anatomy
might be prudent though. ;-)

What's PG-17 in dog years?


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 In looking over images for my October PUG entry (Doors), I came across
 this door from a gourmet pet food store in our town.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489220

 Comments are always welcome and appreciated.

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Re: Playing with shadows

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
I like the effect like you show here, but I agree that sharper edged
shadows would be great.

To get a sharp shadow you want your light rays parallel, so setup the
flash as far away as you can and yet still control it and get enough
light. No modifiers on it, except try the grid.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 When I sit out at night on the bench by the river in my back yard, I keep 
 noticing the shadow cast by my bicycle onto the dance floor.  Last night, I 
 put my strobe on the upstairs back porch, with the shade to direct the light, 
 and got some photos of the shadows cast.   I'm not entirely pleased with the 
 results, I'd like sharper shadows all of the way around.
 I had thought about putting the grid on the strobe, another possibility is 
 taking the shade off (almost the opposite) which would make the light source 
 smaller, and therfore sharper/harder.  Another possibility would be some foil 
  over the end of a shade with a smaller hold in the middle, for an even 
 smaller relative light source.

 Has anyone tried something along these lines? Or have other suggestions?

 For reference, here is a shot from last night:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8042908138/in/set-72157631665170226

 note that the shadows are nice and sharp at the bottom, but a bit fuzzy and 
 rough at top.

 There are also probably other things I could do by setting the light up along 
 the 30-50 foot length of the dance floor and deck, rather than the 20 foot 
 width, and shooting down from a ladder to get a higher angle.

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Re: PESO - Espresso to Go

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Dan! Glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers,
frank

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Looks great, Frank.
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On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 8:40 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Recently seen outside the Jet Fuel Cafe:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/espresso-to-go.html

 The Jet Fuel is a favourite meeting place before and after weekend rides.

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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PESO - House with a view #1

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
Dan ,among others asked about my view.
I responded that I didn't have any good pics so far. Now I think I
have one, maybe two. So more may come.

http://maritimtim.blogspot.no/2012/10/house-with-view-1.html

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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Whether they are real or not, someone sure went to town with the saturation on 
many of them.

And I really doubt.those guys in the panda suits fooled that baby panda for a 
minute.

;-)

Cheers,
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From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: OT: Interesting images

or taken with an extreme long lens at a considerable distance.

On 8/31/2012 3:41 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
 I like the poodle moth.  As for the moon, it might be an extreme crop.
   Or a picture from an alternate dimension.

 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, I'd say they are all real images, but not all are real
 photographs (I think most of them are, though).
 The two that appear to me the most manipulated/artificial are the
 Aurora Borealis one (particularly if you look at the water
 reflection you'll see that reality is not being presented)
 and also the Rio super moon (note the clouds over the mountain tops on
 the left and how they seem to magically disappear when they get to the
 moon). This just looks like a composite of two shots.

 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Are they all for real?

 http://www.buzzfeed.com/microsoftoutlook/20-amazing-photos-you-dont-want-to-miss-76ab

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RE: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 Whether they are real or not, someone sure went to town with the
 saturation on many of them.
 
 And I really doubt.those guys in the panda suits fooled that baby panda
 for a minute.
 

they do! There was a documentary on TV here a few months ago about some
pandas that were coming to a zoo here, Edinburgh I think, and they wear
those panda suits so that the baby pandas don't become used to being around
humans, so that way they (the humans) can release them (the pandas) into the
wild.

B


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RE: OT GESO - Labour Day

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Love the Darryl Lee Chocolate interior. Usually I prefer your people shots but 
the atmosphere in this one is incredible.

Wonderful conversions, too!

cheers,
frank  

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From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: OT GESO - Labour Day


Beautiful run of weather lately, and being a long weekend made it even 
nicer. Continuing on my project of revisiting little-used lenses, I took 
the Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but 
since acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the 
Avenon. It might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of 
spherical aberration, this lens has a lot of glow, especially when 
shooting contre-jour. But it really gives it character. Matched with the 
equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the combo is a good reminder to me that I don't 
need to be on the technological bleeding edge.

As it happens, I also hit the generous (not) limit of space allocated by 
my ISP for the website, so I razed it to the ground and started anew. 
Still work in progress, so please excuse the plaster dust. Not quite 
sure why the little prev/next arrows don't come up when hovering over 
the pics, so click on the left or right of the large images to navigate.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html


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Re: PESO: Taboo !

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Cool image! They almost look like aliens.

Cheers,
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Subject: Re: PESO: Taboo !

It was a very serious matter in Hawaii as well.

All Polynesian languages are closely related to each other.  When Cook
first landed in Hawaii, he was able to communicate quite well with the
Hawaiians through the Polynesians he already had on his crew.

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:02 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:09 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489344

 Taboo is a Tahitian word.  This is the Hawai'ian equivilant.

 Interesting.  The Maori word is quite similar, Tapu, and it's a pretty 
 serious thing.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tapu_(Polynesian_culture)

 Cheers,
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Re: OT GESO - Labour Day

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Very enjoyable gallery, Derby. #1 is great; #8: very funny; #9: love
the shadows and lines.

I like where your new gallery s/w is going too. Nice.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Beautiful run of weather lately, and being a long weekend made it even
 nicer. Continuing on my project of revisiting little-used lenses, I took the
 Avenon 21mm/2.8 out for a walk. Used to be one of my favourites, but since
 acquiring the formidable Zeiss 21mm/2.8, I've hardly touched the Avenon. It
 might be the weak coating, or it might be lashings of spherical aberration,
 this lens has a lot of glow, especially when shooting contre-jour. But it
 really gives it character. Matched with the equally-fun Epson R-D1s, the
 combo is a good reminder to me that I don't need to be on the technological
 bleeding edge.

 As it happens, I also hit the generous (not) limit of space allocated by my
 ISP for the website, so I razed it to the ground and started anew. Still
 work in progress, so please excuse the plaster dust. Not quite sure why the
 little prev/next arrows don't come up when hovering over the pics, so click
 on the left or right of the large images to navigate.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/10/labourday/index.html


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RE: PESO: Bud

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Looks really hot on my android but it works. Love that deep blue background!

Cheers,
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Subject: PESO: Bud

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16494531

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Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Steve. I'm a bit more cheerful now a week and a half later.

;-)

Yours is interesting! Sometimes the accidental ones work best.

:-)

cheers,
frank

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Subject: Re: PESO - Worn Down - A Self Portrait

on 2012-09-25 19:44 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote
 I was at Jet Fuel cafe in Toronto on Sunday morning. A friend of mine just 
 got a Samsung Galaxy S III and we were comparing it to my S II. I was fooling 
 around with mine a bit and flipped the camera around and took my own photo.

 Didn't think much of it until I looked at it again tonight. This was after 
 two sleepless, painful nights since my accident. I am shocked at how bad I 
 looked:

   
 http://www.photoshop.com/users/knarftheriault/assets/789af21513e448b5927d53aebf499270


not bad, really; shows you as thoughtful and down to earth

self-portraits are hard; my favorite of myself was an accident taken on a cold 
light-rail ride home with my humble Canon G3; it has some similarities to your; 
i use it as an avatar

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hn91bsiuddeb7pc/IMG_6135_2.jpg?m


 Can't imagine what having a chronic ailment must do to a person.

i just sold a tripod to a man who's had two bouts with Hodgkin's lymphoma, the 
second requiring a stem cell transplant to recover from chemo, and in between 
had a quadruple bypass; his hair was just growing in and he looked a bit 
ragged, but his cheer was overriding, and i imagine yours is too, most days





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RE: PESO: Taboo !

2012-10-01 Thread Bob W
they look like an army of aliens armed with candy floss.

B

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Daniel J. Matyola
 
 I'm afraid I don't understand that comment, Bob.
 Dan Matyola
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 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  that candy floss (cotton candy) looks like it could do some damage.
  B
 


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RE: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Just a mention of two Pentax products is great!

CR doesn't cater to photographers and I'd even doubt that a photographer 
reviewed them. I am sure that they just plug in numbers and a winner is spit 
out. Can't image they have time for much (any?) real world handling or picture 
taking.

Cheers,
frank


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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Consumer Reports

The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
Best Products of the Year.  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!  The K-5 is 9th, and the Kr is 11th,
although both have the same total score (67) and are separated by an
evil N***n product, the D5100.  The twelve include 4 each from C***N
and N***N, 2 from Pentax, and one each from Oly and Sony.


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RE: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful pano.

Cheers,
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Subject: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
spend an hour or so.

This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
identified by the PDML bird experts.

A few more photos from the day are here.
http://georges.posterous.com/almost-fall-park-pano

gs

George Sinos

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RE: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Cool!

cheers,
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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com, 
Harry Bolton bolt...@mmm.ca, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
Subject: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
and this one through the glasses.

Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

K-5, D FA 16-45 f2

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RE: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Your dog makes the shot!

cheers,
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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
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Subject: PESO: Sit. Stay. Shop.

In looking over images for my October PUG entry (Doors), I came across
this door from a gourmet pet food store in our town.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16489220

Comments are always welcome and appreciated.

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GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
posted already).
http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html

 
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen
Considering the nadaring they tried to do on the Suzuki Samurai, I am not 
inclined to trust anything that CR says.


On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
 Best Products of the Year.  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
 including two Pentax cameras!  The K-5 is 9th, and the Kr is 11th,
 although both have the same total score (67) and are separated by an
 evil N***n product, the D5100.  The twelve include 4 each from C***N
 and N***N, 2 from Pentax, and one each from Oly and Sony.
 
 
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Re: OT: Interesting images

2012-10-01 Thread Igor Roshchin

Mon Oct 1 17:34:43 EDT 2012
Bob W wrote:

  From: pdml-bounces at pdml.net [mailto:pdml-bounces at pdml.net] On
  Behalf Of
  knarftheriault at gmail.com
  
  Whether they are real or not, someone sure went to town with the
  saturation on many of them.
  
  And I really doubt.those guys in the panda suits fooled that baby
  panda
  for a minute.
  
 
 they do! There was a documentary on TV here a few months ago about some
 pandas that were coming to a zoo here, Edinburgh I think, and they wear
 those panda suits so that the baby pandas don't become used to being around
 humans, so that way they (the humans) can release them (the pandas) into
 the wild.
 
 B
 

And the Russian president fooled cranes. ... two (according to the
video):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery/2012/sep/06/vladimir-putin-flies-crane-russia
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/06/putin-hang-glider-endangered-cranes

:-)

Igor


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Re: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread David J Brooks
;lovely as always

Dave

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 I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
 year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
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 lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
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 http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html


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copyright small claims court

2012-10-01 Thread Larry Colen


http://www.copyright.gov/docs/smallclaims/

The Copyright Act protects a wide variety of works of authorship, from 
individual articles or photographs that may not have a high commercial value to 
motion pictures worth hundreds of millions of dollars in the marketplace. The 
copyright owners of all of these works can use copyright law to pursue certain 
unauthorized uses. Not all of these copyright owners, however, have the same 
resources to bring a federal lawsuit, which can require substantial time, 
money, and effort. Moreover, while a copyright owner may want to stop an 
infringement that caused a relatively small amount of economic damage, that 
owner may be dissuaded from filing a lawsuit because a potentially small award 
may not justify the potentially large expense of litigation. While the Act 
offers the possibility of statutory damages and attorney fees, these benefits 
are not available in all cases and parties cannot recover them until after the 
copyright owner has engaged in a potentially long court battle that requires up 
front costs.

The Copyright Office has been asked by Congress to study the obstacles facing 
small copyright claims disputes, as well as possible alternatives. 
Specifically, the Office is to undertake a study to: (1) assess the extent to 
which authors and other copyright owners are effectively prevented from seeking 
relief from infringements due to constraints in the current system; and (2) 
furnish specific recommendations, as appropriate, for changes in 
administrative, regulatory and statutory authority that will improve the 
adjudication of small copyright claims and thereby enable all copyright owners 
to more fully realize the promise of exclusive rights enshrined in our 
Constitution. The initial notice of inquiry seeks comment on how copyright 
owners have handled small copyright claims and the obstacles they have 
encountered, as well as potential alternatives to the current legal system that 
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Re: OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-10-01 5:17 Steve Cottrell wrote

There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19783214


i especially like the fellow grabbing at his chum to keep from falling down 
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread steve harley

on 2012-10-01 10:19 Daniel J. Matyola wrote

The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
Best Products of the Year.  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
including two Pentax cameras!


that's interesting and notable, and will get Pentax some sales

i'm with the rest in being very wary of CR's ratings, though; they package 
their results so as to do the thinking for you, and make it hard to parse out 
useful info from all their assumptions about the products and the people who'll 
use them; the best product for their hypothetical average person is rarely the 
right product for me


and that is before the outright mistakes CR often seems to make, as well as the 
fact that they never dare to question consumerism itself; i often consider CR's 
data for major purchases, but i also often agree with their conclusions




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Re: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful set. I especially Light rays on the Blu Ridge. Yeah, it's not en 
original concept, but it's just so damn pretty.
Paul

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 I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
 year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
 through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
 lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
 posted already).
 http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html
 
 
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Re: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

2012-10-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Love those blue skies. It was worth playing with that church steeple pic. The 
second from the left in the top row is my favorite. 
Paul
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 From the drive around this past weekend, through Sunderland, Kinmount
 and Madawask Ontario. Colours are sectional but closing in fast. This
 weekend should be good. Nice reds and oranges this year.
 
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2012-madawaska1/album/index.html
 
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Re: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Agreed!

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Beautiful pano.

 Cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com
 Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Almost Fall Colors at the Park - A pano

 Saturday morning I noticed that the leaves on the trees in my back
 yard were starting to turn.  I though I'd take a trip to a nearby park
 to see if I could catch a little Fall color.

 That's what I found. very little fall color.  Only a few trees had
 started to turn.  The weather was nice and it was a pleasant way to
 spend an hour or so.

 This is the same trip where I got the shot of the Heron that was
 identified by the PDML bird experts.

 A few more photos from the day are here.
 http://georges.posterous.com/almost-fall-park-pano

 gs

 George Sinos
 
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Re: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Quality over quantity wins. :-) All very beautiful.


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 year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
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 lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
 posted already).
 http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html


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Re: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Excellent gallery, Dave. Especially love 2014, 2036, 2064.


On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:17 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 From the drive around this past weekend, through Sunderland, Kinmount
 and Madawask Ontario. Colours are sectional but closing in fast. This
 weekend should be good. Nice reds and oranges this year.

 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2012-madawaska1/album/index.html

 Dave

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RE: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
...And this is why we hate you so...

;-)

Beautiful set, Mark!

cheers,
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Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO: The GFM photos I almost forgot

I just realized a few days ago that I didn't post any photos from this
year's Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend. I short browse
through my archives revealed why: I didn't have enough time to do a
lot of shooting this year. Anyway, here's 8 shots (some of which I've
posted already).
http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/gfm2012/index.html

 
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Ben Kanarek ponders jump from K-5 to D600 or 6D

2012-10-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Interesting blog entry from former PDMLer but still loyal Pentax
fashion shooter, Benjamin Kanarek. Based on the premise that he wants
FF but Pentax hasn't delivered, he steps through a decision process of
comparing the two new inexpensive FF's.

Two very interesting related comments in the follow-ups: Benjamin is
mostly pissed-off at the poor AF of the K5.

  I need a camera where when go to a shoot, I don't feel paranoid
that half of my stuff is not in focus... :-(

And when somebody suggested that of course clients would expect him to
be shooting with one of the top brands or at least the Pentax 645D, he
retorts:

  My clients have never once ever scrutinized my camera gear.


http://www.benjaminkanarekblog.com/2012/09/28/nikon-d600-canon-6d-question/

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RE: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
There's people with firearms and dogs and one guy with a dead Canada goose.

These things offend my wimpy vegan left-wing anti-gun city-boy sensibilities.

Otherwise, the leaves are quite pretty. So are the landscapes and churches.

And all silly humour aside it's a beautiful gallery.

Cheers,
frank

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From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com, 
Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Harry Bolton bolt...@mmm.ca, David 
Button butt...@mmm.ca, Darryl Button butto...@mmm.ca
Subject: Geso Fall colour drive weekend

From the drive around this past weekend, through Sunderland, Kinmount
and Madawask Ontario. Colours are sectional but closing in fast. This
weekend should be good. Nice reds and oranges this year.

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2012-madawaska1/album/index.html

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
CR is not for the enthusiast.

Of anything.

Back when I read the odd high end stereo mag like Stereophile or Absolute Sound 
(Are either of those still around? I don't know...) they decried CR stereo 
ratings: This Naim amplifier seems sturdily built and rugged, and it measures 
quite good although at only 15 watts per side it's not very powerful. At 1/10th 
the price we recommend this Sansui receiver with 200 watts per channel and even 
better measurements than the Naim. Plus, the Sansui has a built-in tuner and 
pre-amp! A much better value! We did double-blind AB testing and 8 out of 10 
listeners couldn't tell the difference...

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Consumer Reports

on 2012-10-01 10:19 Daniel J. Matyola wrote
 The November 2012 issue of Consumer Reports magazine features the
 Best Products of the Year.  Among the listed items are 12 DSLRs,
 including two Pentax cameras!

that's interesting and notable, and will get Pentax some sales

i'm with the rest in being very wary of CR's ratings, though; they package 
their results so as to do the thinking for you, and make it hard to parse out 
useful info from all their assumptions about the products and the people who'll 
use them; the best product for their hypothetical average person is rarely the 
right product for me

and that is before the outright mistakes CR often seems to make, as well as the 
fact that they never dare to question consumerism itself; i often consider CR's 
data for major purchases, but i also often agree with their conclusions



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Re: copyright small claims court

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

http://www.copyright.gov/docs/smallclaims/

The Copyright Act protects a wide variety of works of authorship, from 
individual articles or photographs that may not have a high commercial value 
to motion pictures worth hundreds of millions of dollars in the marketplace. 
The copyright owners of all of these works can use copyright law to pursue 
certain unauthorized uses. Not all of these copyright owners, however, have 
the same resources to bring a federal lawsuit, which can require substantial 
time, money, and effort. Moreover, while a copyright owner may want to stop an 
infringement that caused a relatively small amount of economic damage, that 
owner may be dissuaded from filing a lawsuit because a potentially small award 
may not justify the potentially large expense of litigation. While the Act 
offers the possibility of statutory damages and attorney fees, these benefits 
are not available in all cases and parties cannot recover them until after the 
copyright owner has engaged in a potentially long court battle that requires up
  front costs.

The Copyright Office has been asked by Congress to study the obstacles facing 
small copyright claims disputes, as well as possible alternatives. 
Specifically, the Office is to undertake a study to: (1) assess the extent to 
which authors and other copyright owners are effectively prevented from 
seeking relief from infringements due to constraints in the current system; 
and (2) furnish specific recommendations, as appropriate, for changes in 
administrative, regulatory and statutory authority that will improve the 
adjudication of small copyright claims and thereby enable all copyright owners 
to more fully realize the promise of exclusive rights enshrined in our 
Constitution. The initial notice of inquiry seeks comment on how copyright 
owners have handled small copyright claims and the obstacles they have 
encountered, as well as potential alternatives to the current legal system 
that could better accommodate such claims.

Excellent. And long overdue.
At the present time the only way to file a copyright suit is through
Federal District Court. Slow and expensive (~$10,000). Not worth the
time or money for many claims. Something more accessible is needed.
 
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How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
The Oatmeal:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/incredible_photos

 
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Re: OT - Only in Scotland

2012-10-01 Thread Anthony Farr
Only in Scotland would it be so difficult to remove stuff from a
rubbish bin.  That town council must be very protective of its
garbage.

regards, Anthony



On 2 October 2012 09:23, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-10-01 5:17 Steve Cottrell wrote

 There's a few on the list who will have a belly laugh at this...


 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-19783214


 i especially like the fellow grabbing at his chum to keep from falling down
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Kodak getting out of inkjet printer business

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/kodak-to-end-consumer-inkjet-printer-sales-cut-more-jobs/2012/09/28/47798482-0978-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html

I thought inkjet printing was going to be their way out of bankruptcy?
Apparently not.
 
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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote:

I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive. 
Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula. 
That might, however, explain the Carl Zeiss poor rating.

It was about 30 years ago, so my recollections are surely imperfect,
but I'm pretty sure they were dissing the image quality rather than
value for money. (Otherwise Keppler wouldn't have spoken up.)
 
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Re: How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

2012-10-01 Thread Doug Brewer
Facebook that shit would make a great t-shirt.

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 The Oatmeal:
 http://theoatmeal.com/comics/incredible_photos
 
 
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Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!

2012-10-01 Thread Rick Womer
Well, I'll semi- quibble with that.

About a year ago my 1974-vintage Pioneer receiver died.  I replaced it with a 
Yamaha RS-500.  Wow, what a difference!  It inspired me to take apart, clean, 
and rebuild my 1974 Pioneer PL-12D turntable; and they sound wonderful through 
my EPI 100 (also 1974; rebuilt woofers in 1990) speakers.

Rick
 
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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:58 PM
Subject: RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

Good quality home audio is all but a thing of the past.

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: iPhone 5--sheesh!

That seems to be generally true of audio things these days - I think they
expect people to be permanently wearing headphones, or in the case of TVs to
be plugged into some sort of home cinema set up with
superoctomegatronic-3D-HDQ- surround-sound Dolby bollocks. Or maybe it's
just that I'm a deaf git.

B

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 I have very little experience with mobile phones generally and even
 less with smartphones. In fact my Samsung Galaxy S II with Android is
 my first and only. So I can't compare it with others.
 
 What I can say, however, is that as a phone it is horrible. I can
 barely hear the person at the other end if there is even the tiniest
 bit of background noise. The sound quality generally is horrible.
 
 Cheers,
 frank
 
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 Sent: September 29, 2012 9/29/12
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 Subject: Re: iPhone 5--sheesh!
 
 Still waiting for an answer which one is better for making telephone
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Re: Ben Kanarek ponders jump from K-5 to D600 or 6D

2012-10-01 Thread Miserere
On 1 October 2012 20:29, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting blog entry from former PDMLer but still loyal Pentax
 fashion shooter, Benjamin Kanarek. Based on the premise that he wants
 FF but Pentax hasn't delivered, he steps through a decision process of
 comparing the two new inexpensive FF's.

 Two very interesting related comments in the follow-ups: Benjamin is
 mostly pissed-off at the poor AF of the K5.

   I need a camera where when go to a shoot, I don't feel paranoid
 that half of my stuff is not in focus... :-(

 And when somebody suggested that of course clients would expect him to
 be shooting with one of the top brands or at least the Pentax 645D, he
 retorts:

   My clients have never once ever scrutinized my camera gear.


 http://www.benjaminkanarekblog.com/2012/09/28/nikon-d600-canon-6d-question/

Being a Pentax shooter, I suspect he'll choose the Nikon D600 once he
holds them both in his hands; Nikon has the most ergonomic cameras
after Pentax.


   —M.

\/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com

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RE: Peso. Fall colours through a pair of sunglasses

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: David J Brooks


I have a pair of amber sunglasses that slip over my glasses. During
the fall colour season, the amber/yellow really makes the colours pop,
so on my weekend trip i stopped in Sunderland Ontario and shot this
church. I took several shots with and with out a circular polarize r
and this one through the glasses.

Not quite what i see in my eyeballs but kinda neat. I used the WB tool
and some luminous adjustment on oranges and purples.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/8044225769/in/photostream

K-5, D FA 16-45 f2


Are those the Blue Blockers? I had a pair at one time. Don't remember
them allowing that much color through.

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RE: How to take INCREDIBLE photos of your friends

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
That's the way I take photos of people except I use a dslr instead of phone.

Cheers,
frank

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RE: PESO - Three windows

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Lovely photo.

Is that the abandoned military facility south of Lakeshore Blvd. just west of 
Long Branch? If so I always wondered what that was...

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
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Subject: PESO - Three windows

Inside the sole remaining building of Small Arms Limited, in Lakeview,
Mississauga during Doors Open 2012 on Saturday. There's a proposal to
turn it into an arts center with studio space and such. Most recently
it was used for shooting interior sets of a popular TV show: Lost
Girl, season 3.

During WW2 the grounds contained a 212,000 sq ft munitions factory
that built rifles, machine guns and ammunition. They employed 5,500
people, most of them women.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8045568498/lightbox/

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RE: GESO Fall 2011

2012-10-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful gallery!

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: October 1, 2012 10/1/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Fall 2011

Before I start shooting and posting this year's Fall stuff, I think I 
should post these from last year.

CC always appreciated.



http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Seasons/In-The-Fall-of-2011/25683157_43MSdJ

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Re: OT: Consumer Reports

2012-10-01 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, on a serious note, that's doubtless the case. My Zeiss tag line was an 
intentional over-reach.


Jack Davis
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From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com
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Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Consumer Reports

Jack Davis wrote:

I've always felt CR's camera reviews to be naive. 
Also, don't like the idea of price being a component of the quality formula. 
That might, however, explain the Carl Zeiss poor rating.

It was about 30 years ago, so my recollections are surely imperfect,
but I'm pretty sure they were dissing the image quality rather than
value for money. (Otherwise Keppler wouldn't have spoken up.)

-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
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RE: Kodak getting out of inkjet printer business

2012-10-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts


http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/kodak-to-end-consumer-inkjet-printer-sales-cut-more-jobs/2012/09/28/47798482-0978-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html

I thought inkjet printing was going to be their way out of bankruptcy?
Apparently not.


I'm afraid they may not have a way out of bankruptcy.

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