A fine full frame

2013-02-08 Thread Larry Colen
This has been rattling around in my brain all day, and now you have the benefit 
of sharing my earworm:

Fine Full Frame

Oh, she's got a fine full frame
I wonder what could be her name
She looks good to me, and all I can see 
Is her fine full frame

How long has it been here
Sister when did you get that gear
I wanna scream 'cos I've never seen
A Pentax full frame

All I have is a K5 dash two
For most of my shots it'll do
Don't be a square, why don't you come over here
And I could take some photos of you

Woh-ooh!s he's got a fine full frame 
I wonder what could be her name 
She is solid with me, and all I can see 
Is her fine full frame 


I did a quick search on youtube for a video for people who aren't familiar with 
the original tune, and as soon as the first clip I tried came up, I knew it was 
the right one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3XZWASd9Z4


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Re: OT: Pentax Has New Firmware

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling

Maybe he meant it was on topic.


On 2/6/2013 9:03 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

How is this OT? :)




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Re: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

2013-02-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/2/13, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Buying the newest Corvette Stingray wouldn't make Paul Stenquist any
more desirable to women, but if he had the money and that's what he
desired, I wouldn't begrudge him the pleasure.

I would!!!

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Re: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I think I'd actually be more inclined to buy a Pentax FF DSLR if it were 
24mp than 36mp. Especially if Pentax worked the same magic with that 
sensor that they have with the 16mp sensor in the K-5. A 300 dpi, image 
would be 13 1/3 x 20 in size if you printed the full frame. Assuming a 
high definition screen of 100ppi, (yes I'm sure there are higher 
resolutions but the math is easy), a 24mp image will create a 40 x 60 
image for display. The Diagonal on that is roughly 72 How many even 
commercial and scientific venues have larger displays?


I'm not going to say who needs it, someone might, probably does, but I'm 
pretty sure I don't. What I am more interested in is greater color depth 
and exposure latitude. I'm still using a K20D, (hey times are tough and 
I can't justify, even to myself, replacing what is a to me a four year 
old camera that still does it's job), and lower noise. The larger sensor 
with larger photo-sites would make those goals much easier to achieve.


On 2/7/2013 7:48 PM, Mark C wrote:
I'd probably buy a FF body just because I've been itching to buy a new 
Pentax DSLR for a while now


But the rationale really depends on the specifications of a new FF DSLR.

*IF* the sensor resolution / pixel size was comparable to the K-5 and 
the image image quality was just as good, then a FF Pentax DSLR would 
be an automatic for me. I could have the advantages of a full frame 
DSLR when I needed them and crop down to APS size and still get 
something as good as the top APS C DSLR. Of course, that would call 
for a sensor in the 36 megapixel size.


If the sensor resolution was lower - like a 24 mp FF DSLzR it would be 
harder to rationalize. Since I do a lot of macro and telephoto work, 
the crop factor of the APS sensor comes in handy. For that kind of 
work it is better to use a smaller / higher resolution sensor than a 
larger / lower reoslution sensor. I would probably still get the FF 
camera just to use lenses that I like and don't have in the APS format 
- like fast normals (less than f 2.0) and the FA 20-35mm f4. But I am 
sure that some of my old FF lenses will not but up to snuff on a 
digital gear.


So -

1. A 36 megapixel FF I'd buy ASAP. It owuld replae my K-5 for 
virtually all shooting since I could crop down to K-5 image sizes with 
the same resolution.
2. A 24 megapixel FF I'd probably buy, but I'd alternate between the 
K-5 and the the FF and probably do a lot of work with the K-5 still. 
(Maybe this path would get me to buy a K-5IIS also.)
3. If Pentax came out with both a 24 megapixel FF and a 24 megapixel 
APS body I'd provably buy the APS body. Maybe come back for the FF later.


Mark


On 2/7/2013 6:28 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

I mean, aside from the obvious reasons like, bigger sensor, better image
quality, better use with lenses designed to work with a 36X24mm frame,
better lighting, better heating, better sewer systems, the roads (yes we
can't forget the roads)








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Re: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling

That probably depends upon the woman, but in general, no... unfortunately.

On 2/7/2013 6:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

But would a full frame camera make me more desirable?

Paul via phone

On Feb 7, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:


John Sessoms wrote: I think the thing that has been lost is all the discussion 
is the
simplest reason of all ... Because I want one!

Not need. I do understand the difference. I want one, and I have the
money set aside to buy what I want.



Of course. This idea that only guys with more money than they know what to do 
with would buy a FF camera is a bit off-base. The fact that person A can afford 
a product and person B can't, doesn't make person A frivolous or foolish or 
egotistical as some have stepped around the edges of.

By most measures, if one is a crumby photographer, shooting FF has the 
potential to make one's crumby images better from a technical standpoint, if 
nothing else.

Buying the newest Corvette Stingray wouldn't make Paul Stenquist any more 
desirable to women, but if he had the money and that's what he desired, I 
wouldn't begrudge him the pleasure.

Tom C.
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Re: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

2013-02-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:43 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2/7/2013 6:37 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 But would a full frame camera make me more desirable?

 That probably depends upon the woman, but in general, no... unfortunately.

I've found that a larger camera helps by hiding more of my face.

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Re: Mono printing

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 2/7/2013 1:24 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Hi de ho

Does anyone know of anybody out there who makes a sort of mono printing
conversion for inkjet printers? I have an old i865 which takes the
popular BCI6 carts - I wonder if anyone has a method to turn it into a
decent black and white printer with a set of mono inks? Printing mono
from it always gives a green cast and looks horrible.

Of course I might consider a newer printer ;-)

I find that if I print sepia or faux platinum thus supplying my own 
color cast more or less removes any unwanted, cast the printer supplies. 
However that's with HP printers. I'm not sure that method will work with 
Epson. I have yet to try that with the new Canon Pixma I've been using.


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Re: Mono printing

2013-02-08 Thread Zos Xavius
The canon and  epson both have monochrome modes that will not color cast.

P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2/7/2013 1:24 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
 Hi de ho

 Does anyone know of anybody out there who makes a sort of mono
printing
 conversion for inkjet printers? I have an old i865 which takes the
 popular BCI6 carts - I wonder if anyone has a method to turn it into
a
 decent black and white printer with a set of mono inks? Printing mono
 from it always gives a green cast and looks horrible.

 Of course I might consider a newer printer ;-)

I find that if I print sepia or faux platinum thus supplying my own 
color cast more or less removes any unwanted, cast the printer
supplies. 
However that's with HP printers. I'm not sure that method will work
with 
Epson. I have yet to try that with the new Canon Pixma I've been using.


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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I noticed that a lower tier Nikon as well, don't remember the model, but 
without power the viewfinder was unusable for focusing.


On 8/3/2012 11:32 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
The first time I took a D800 at my eye I was puzzled because when the 
camera is off you can barely see through the viewfinder (with cap off 
the lens).
In practice, the superimposed LCD (HUD?) allows the D800 viewfinder to 
be useful only when it is on, like an EVF.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- From: Igor Roshchin
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Subject: Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders


What difference does the optical viewfinder make in this case?
As long as it is not a RF, you would notice, whether its an optical or
electronic.
(And it looks like the guys figured it out before he took a shot.)

Once in a while, I pull my camera out quickly, start with changing the
mode and settings on top of the camera, and just as I start bringing
the viewfinder to my face somebody would warn me (sometimes with a
victorious look on her face) that I have the lens cap still on.
What the problem? I would have seen that in a moment.

Igor


Thu Aug 2 14:40:44 EDT 2012
Mark Roberts wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA





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Peso On such a winters day

2013-02-08 Thread Don Guthrie
Looks like a slow Friday. Here's a dreary winter scene from last weekend 
to darken your day. CC always taken in the spirit it is given.


http://donspix.posterous.com/sometime-the-winter-in-the-midwest-without-sn#!/

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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2013-02-08 Thread George Sinos
I must have come into the middle of a discussion.

Are you saying that you focus with the camera turned off, then turn it
on and hit the shutter button?  That sounds like an unusual method of
work.

I'm a little confused here.

gs

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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I noticed that a lower tier Nikon as well, don't remember the model, but
 without power the viewfinder was unusable for focusing.


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Re: Peso On such a winters day

2013-02-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Don,
Nice picture.  Not as nice as LeeAnne, but still quite good.
I wish the sky had something going on in it, and
that you had all the tree branches to the right.
It may be dreary, but that's winter.
The barn, the tree, and the flat, wide open fields are what a midwest
winter is about.
Regards,  Bob S.


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 Looks like a slow Friday. Here's a dreary winter scene from last weekend to
 darken your day. CC always taken in the spirit it is given.

 http://donspix.posterous.com/sometime-the-winter-in-the-midwest-without-sn#!/

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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
No, I'm saying that the focusing screen was unusable for manual focusing 
when the camera was not powered up. No matter how you turned the 
focusing ring the viewfinder seemed dark and unfocused.


Once power was turned on the viewfinder brightened and manual focus was 
possible... Well mostly, the finder was bright and /everything/ looked 
to be in focus, what was in or out of focus was very subtle, to put it 
diplomatically.


On 2/8/2013 4:43 PM, George Sinos wrote:

I must have come into the middle of a discussion.

Are you saying that you focus with the camera turned off, then turn it
on and hit the shutter button?  That sounds like an unusual method of
work.

I'm a little confused here.

gs

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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

I noticed that a lower tier Nikon as well, don't remember the model, but
without power the viewfinder was unusable for focusing.




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PESO -- Major Snow Event®

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
When did it become de rigueur to complicate the language with pseudo 
technical jargon® like Major Snow Event® when plain English such as 
Snowstorm, or Major Snowstorm or even Blizzard express the situation 
perfectly well?


Well anyway New England and the rest of the Northeast US are undergoing 
a Major Snow Event®. I expect some of it will get on parts of Canada 
as well. I took this during the dog's afternoon walk. I hope he 
appreciates it. I didn't.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20majorsnowevent%C2%AE.html

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Re: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

2013-02-08 Thread Tom C
Why? The steering wheel's on the wrong side. What good would it do you?

:)

Tom C


 From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv

 On 7/2/13, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Buying the newest Corvette Stingray wouldn't make Paul Stenquist any
more desirable to women, but if he had the money and that's what he
desired, I wouldn't begrudge him the pleasure.

 I would!!!

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Re: For Cotty: Amateur version of GoPro

2013-02-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/2/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://solsticevisuals.com/post/41297830142/the-opposite-of-go-pro


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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event®

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I forgot in case anyone is interested the BW conversion was 
accomplished with Fotomatic's free BW conversion program applied after 
all other adjustments using their pseudo Yellow Filter.



On 2/8/2013 6:45 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
When did it become de rigueur to complicate the language with pseudo 
technical jargon® like Major Snow Event® when plain English such as 
Snowstorm, or Major Snowstorm or even Blizzard express the situation 
perfectly well?


Well anyway New England and the rest of the Northeast US are 
undergoing a Major Snow Event®. I expect some of it will get on 
parts of Canada as well. I took this during the dog's afternoon walk. 
I hope he appreciates it. I didn't.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20majorsnowevent%C2%AE.html 



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Re: Why would you buy a Pentax FF camera?

2013-02-08 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 8/2/13, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed:

Why? The steering wheel's on the wrong side. What good would it do you?

:)

Humour arf arf

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Re: If they never made anything new...

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I was perfectly happy with manual focus Pentax LX and MX cameras for 
most of my photographic career. I had stopped working for newspapers 
long before auto focus cameras were de regueur, and my results with 
digital are better than I had with film about 90% of the time, so yes I 
could easily get by without there ever being a single improvement in the 
technology currently available.


On 2/7/2013 11:26 AM, George Sinos wrote:

Thom Hogan asks an interesting question today (Feb 7, 2013)

you can't buy anything photographic ever that doesn't exist today. Do
you just stay with what you have, or do you shuffle your gear to a
different set? Why?  If you can answer that question you start to see
where you think you need more help from the tool, rather than just
more practice with the tool.

You can read the whole article here. http://www.bythom.com/

gs

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event(R)

2013-02-08 Thread Christine Nielsen
... and I'd like to know when it became common practice to name these
storms... Nemo is apparently how we are supposed to call this bit of
weather we're having?

Oh well, the wind is picking up, snow is flying... it hasn't
accumulated too much here, south of Boston, a few inches, maybe... but
maybe by tomorrow we'll have huge piles... I walked the dog this
morning, which will have to do... he doesn't seem to have any interest
in being out there now, thankfully.

Stay warm!

:)
-c



On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:45 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 When did it become de rigueur to complicate the language with pseudo
 technical jargon® like Major Snow Event® when plain English such as
 Snowstorm, or Major Snowstorm or even Blizzard express the situation
 perfectly well?

 Well anyway New England and the rest of the Northeast US are undergoing a
 Major Snow Event®. I expect some of it will get on parts of Canada as
 well. I took this during the dog's afternoon walk. I hope he appreciates it.
 I didn't.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20majorsnowevent%C2%AE.html

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event(R)

2013-02-08 Thread Bob Sullivan
Imagine this.  A long time Chicago News anchor (Bill Curtis), announced today
that he had a special story on the Eastern storm and pictures of SNOW!!!
Yes, we have SNOW here every year and 2 or 3 inches on the ground now.
SNOW, like we've never seen it before.  He  CBS Chicago know better!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 When did it become de rigueur to complicate the language with pseudo
 technical jargon® like Major Snow Event® when plain English such as
 Snowstorm, or Major Snowstorm or even Blizzard express the situation
 perfectly well?

 Well anyway New England and the rest of the Northeast US are undergoing a
 Major Snow Event®. I expect some of it will get on parts of Canada as
 well. I took this during the dog's afternoon walk. I hope he appreciates it.
 I didn't.

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20majorsnowevent%C2%AE.html

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event(R)

2013-02-08 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:

 ... and I'd like to know when it became common practice to name these
 storms... Nemo is apparently how we are supposed to call this bit of
 weather we're having?

It's a marketing tactic started by the Weather Channel this year.
Other outlets like the NWS and AccuWeather don't use the names.

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Re: Why I have no hair left to pull out

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 2/7/2013 10:23 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Joseph McAllister


On Feb 3, 2013, at 08:14 , John Sessoms wrote:

From: Bob W

[...]


To be fair to the crony, this sort of thing happens even to 
experienced
competent photographers who, for example, might mistake their K-7 
for a
K-5, leading them in-the-moment to mis-diagnose limitations on 
low-ISO

settings.

stan


Similar things used to happen in the film days. Like I seem to 
have more

than forty frames on this roll of ...ah damn!

B


Been there, done THAT!



I'm sure we all have done the same thing in the digital age. Shoot
the first 5 or 10 or 20 frames (are they still frames?) then go to
chimp only to see the single line of white text that you hope no one
else saw No Card in the Camera. Pray that no one asks for a print
of that great shot you took of my family at the game.


AFAIK, none of my Pentax DSLRs will allow shutter activation without a 
card in the camera. Plus, I find it easiest to keep a card in the 
camera all the time. Take one card out, put another card in, format it 
so it's ready for use.


And since I usually check the histogram on the first shot in any 
series, it rarely takes me more than one or two frames to figure out 
if I'm screwing something else up. Sometimes it's a puzzle just how 
I'm screwing up, but I almost always know that something is not right 
by the first frame.


Most times it's the Mode dial on the left has been bumped from my 
preferred AV setting to TAV and I haven't got the exposure I want.


There's a custom setting to allow shutter release without a card in the 
camera.


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Re: totally OT but fun …

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling

iRobot...

On 2/7/2013 4:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

This arrived in the mail today:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/Robot_Star_II-0242.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/Robot_Star_II-0243.jpg

1938-40-ish Robot Star II with Zeiss Jena Biotar 40mm f/2 lens. Everything 
works, although the shutter needs a thorough cleaning and adjustment.

A totally cool camera toy. Must load and see what it does before I drop it off 
for cleaning. :-)

Godfrey




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Re: totally OT but fun ...

2013-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling

On 2/7/2013 6:29 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 7/2/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/Robot_Star_II-0243.jpg


That's a HUGE knob there.


But does it follow the three laws of Phototics?

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event(R)

2013-02-08 Thread Paul Sorenson
Seven inches from yesterday's storm here in Milwaukee.  This is what my 
back yard looked like this morning...


http://studio1941.com/FebSnow/index.html

-p

On 2/8/2013 7:45 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Imagine this.  A long time Chicago News anchor (Bill Curtis), announced today
that he had a special story on the Eastern storm and pictures of SNOW!!!
Yes, we have SNOW here every year and 2 or 3 inches on the ground now.
SNOW, like we've never seen it before.  He  CBS Chicago know better!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

When did it become de rigueur to complicate the language with pseudo
technical jargon® like Major Snow Event® when plain English such as
Snowstorm, or Major Snowstorm or even Blizzard express the situation
perfectly well?

Well anyway New England and the rest of the Northeast US are undergoing a
Major Snow Event®. I expect some of it will get on parts of Canada as
well. I took this during the dog's afternoon walk. I hope he appreciates it.
I didn't.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20majorsnowevent%C2%AE.html

Equipment Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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Re: PESO -- Major Snow Event(R)

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine Nielsen wrote:

Oh well, the wind is picking up, snow is flying... it hasn't
accumulated too much here, south of Boston, a few inches, maybe... but
maybe by tomorrow we'll have huge piles... I walked the dog this
morning, which will have to do... he doesn't seem to have any interest
in being out there now, thankfully.

10:14 and I just shoveled out for the fifth time today. Lisa's not on
call but we want to be prepared in case whoever *is* on call can't get
in to the hospital. Of course, we're only 2 miles away so it would
probably be quicker for her to walk - we just bought showshoes for a
hiking trip in two weeks so we're really prepared!

It's really coming down thick now. 

 
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Re: PAW Week 5-2013

2013-02-08 Thread Boris Liberman

You're quite Walkden...

On 2/4/2013 1:09 AM, Bob W wrote:

you get awesomer every week, Christine. By week 52 you should have burst the
awesomeness barrier and achieved almost total Ralph.

B


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Cheers, Christine

http://www.caguila.com/paw2013/content/_IGP5449_large.html








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Re: At least they didn't shoot me

2013-02-08 Thread Boris Liberman



On 2/5/2013 9:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I posted this story elsewhere, but since it actually has a little to
HR offers to let me have the day off, and they'll square it with my
boss, who knows nothing about this, but I decline.  A little later
someone from HR shows up in my cube with a $25 card for the
cafeteria.  The woman from HR, once again, thanks me for being so
cooperative.  I, once again, point out that it's very easy to be
cooperative when six people are pointing guns at you.


So, in a nut*shell* your local PD tends to err on the safe side... The 
question is - do they ever err on the unsafe side???


Boris


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