Re: Request for specific Advice on B&W InkJet Printing (using an Epson printer).

2013-03-13 Thread Bulent Celasun
Dear Friends,

Thank you all very much for your most valuable insights.
I will be starting to use my printer within a few days and try
printing a couple of photos.

I understand that the printer (under ordinary conditions) does less
mistakes than an ordinary human being!

I'll share my experiences later.

Thanks to all the contributors of this thread; much appreciated.

Bulent
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2013/3/14 Mark C :
> I can only comment on the mono printing. I have an Epson 3800 which used the
> K3 inks but lacks the vivid magenta. I've been very satisfied with the B&W
> printing results.
>
> It's not my preferred way of working, but if I don't expect to need to print
> the image in the future I just use the advanced B&W stetting, run some test
> prints and tweak the tones and contrast to what I want. I do embed the
> settings into the file that I print as an EXIF comment, so I can reproduce
> the results (as long as I have this printer.) Obviously, the drawback with
> that is that I lose the ability to print that image in the future on a
> different printer and get the same results, since the fine tuning of the
> settings is done in the print driver and not in the image itself. I also
> don't get to see the image as I want it one the screen and then print. As I
> said, if I don't care about that stuff I just get a print that I like, make
> a copy, and call it day.
>
> If I *do* want to have an archival digital reference copy I just follow
> normal calibrated work flows. Nine times out of ten that works fine.
> Sometimes I get quirky color shifts or metamerism. If the problem is not
> caused by an error on my part, I will usually just revert back to using
> advanced B&W mode in those cases, unless it limits me too much.
>
> If you are getting color shifts when printing a mono image, print it in
> advanced B&W mode set to neutral and then see if it is shifted. If so, run a
> nozzle check and mack sure everything is OK. I have not seen color shifts
> when the printer handles the B&W settings. I have seen them when I mis match
> profiles, send a duotone to the printer without converting to RGB, or make
> other human error. Again, the drawback of letting the printer handle the B&W
> settings is that they are not directly connected to you digital image (and
> therefore cannot be reproduced on another printer) and you have to use trial
> and error to get your final result, since it comes off the printer and does
> not appear on the screen.
>
> - Mark
>
>
>
> On 3/11/2013 5:36 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> I've been making an occasional print of some of my photographs using a
>> common garden inkjet printer at home.
>> For color work, it was OK and I was not fussy about profiles,
>> resemblance to the original (whatever that might mean) etc.
>> However, the uncontrollable color casts on monochrome and toned prints
>> were unbearable.
>>
>> Now, I have purchased a better printer, Epson 2880. It is still in the
>> original package :(
>>
>> My specific concerns are:
>>
>> - Do I have to make a calibration or some purpose driven tests
>> "before" using it?
>> - Any concerns about using this printer under Linux?
>> - I care more about monochrome prints. Are there specific, crucial
>> settings that you think especially important in this regard?
>> - Most of the comments on books about digital inkjet printing suggest
>> that they may fail to satisfy my needs. Are there any other resources
>> you may suggest (paid or free)?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Bulent
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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Alan C

Hear, hear!

Alan C

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Subject: Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary


While I appreciate the nostalgia around Kodak and the Instamatic, I
think it was a travesty.

It short changed the general public, millions of people, including my
father and myself for a good 20 years (not knowing any better being
born in 1960) into accepting crap quality images in exchange for
convenience.

I wish the idea had never been invented, unless it was going to be
provided in a larger format, which of course would have negated the
profitability.

I tend to think Kodak's demise is little recompense for the damage
they did to photography after practically inventing it for the common
man.

Tom C.

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 March 2013 16:04, Tom C  wrote:
> While I appreciate the nostalgia around Kodak and the Instamatic, I
> think it was a travesty.
>
> It short changed the general public, millions of people, including my
> father and myself for a good 20 years (not knowing any better being
> born in 1960) into accepting crap quality images in exchange for
> convenience.

Dad had a Retinette 1A which I do still have so my family has some
decent quality historical photos. The photos that I have from my
Instamatic seem all to have been printed on that impossible to scan
dimpled paper, what were they thinking?

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Tom C
While I appreciate the nostalgia around Kodak and the Instamatic, I
think it was a travesty.

It short changed the general public, millions of people, including my
father and myself for a good 20 years (not knowing any better being
born in 1960) into accepting crap quality images in exchange for
convenience.

I wish the idea had never been invented, unless it was going to be
provided in a larger format, which of course would have negated the
profitability.

I tend to think Kodak's demise is little recompense for the damage
they did to photography after practically inventing it for the common
man.

Tom C.

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Re: PESO - Free Feed at the Old Pool Hall

2013-03-13 Thread kwaller

Absolutely great capture - the mouths have it!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: PESO - Free Feed at the Old Pool Hall


These ladies were  in deep shadows with a brightly lit wall behind them. 
No time for exposure comp. The moment would have been gone. Shot at f 2.8, 
1/50th, ISO 12,800 with the DA* 50-135 at 135 mm. Pushed it 1.25 stops in 
conversion, so it's the equivalent of about ISO 30,000. Noisy, but I like 
it.


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Re: OT - iphonography

2013-03-13 Thread kwaller

He must have a good phone!


Yep! And its professional - its black.

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Bruce Walker" 

Subject: Re: OT - iphonography



Pretty nice stuff, Ken.


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:02 PM,   wrote:
For those on the list that don't think much of iphone photography, and 
for

those that would like to see some iphone images, I've included 2 links to
sites with images taken by my son which were all captured with his iphone
and run thru some iphone apps. I agree that the shutter pusher is more
important than the shutter he pushes but his images do show the 
capability

of iphones.

http://instagram.com/toddwaller  & http://toddwaller.com/pictures/

Comments?

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Re: PESO: Change of pace

2013-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
The wood duck is a nice catch. Ice covered river leaves me cold. ;-)

Jack



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Subject: PESO: Change of pace

Actually, two images. 

Having heard the groans from snow-and-ice afflicted PDMLers as they viewed 
tropical beach and jungle shots, I offer this is to illustrate that I share 
your pain;  I came home to an ice-filled river.

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e5811daa8

But then we had a few days of warm temperatures, plus quite a bit of rain that 
helped to melt the ice and dramatically increased the height and flow rate of 
the river. So the ice broke up and went downstream two days ago. Today this guy 
showed up:

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e5811db7a

Today we also had numerous Mallards, Canada Geese, and a pair of Common 
Goldeneye on the river in front of the house. Spring is coming . . .

stan
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Re: PESO - Morning Walk

2013-03-13 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks, Don, and thanks to all who looked and commented. It was a cool
> morning but not that cold: maybe -10C which off the top of my head
> might be 15F.

Yeah, but today was 25C here
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Re: OT Video about image image capture on the ISS

2013-03-13 Thread Tom C
> From: Rob Studdert 
>
> http://vimeo.com/61083440

Thanks for sharing that Rob. It was wonderful.

Tom C.

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread John Sessoms
Found this page that shows comparative sizes. Looks like 126 slides were 
just about the same size as 35mm slides but more square 1.08"x0.98" vs 
1.3"x0.85"


http://howtoscan.ca/film-format-types.html

Later 110 film produced teeny-tiny slides, but that wouldn't have been 
available yet in 1967.


I've still got Kodachrome 64 in 110 cartridges.

From: Bruce Walker

Ah geez! I'm pretty sure that's what my uncle gave me to shoot when we
toured Expo 67 in Montreal. I was 11 and I think that was the turn-on
point for photography for me.

Did these produce tiny slides? I seem to recall getting slides back
and using a viewer to see the shots.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

March 1963 was when Kodak released the first Instamatic camera.

http://blog.eastmanhouse.org/2013/03/12/50th-anniversary-of-the-instamatic-1963/

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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
I haven't had any exposure problems with the K-5. I use matrix metering. Of 
course it can't nail every situation. One has  add some exposure comp when 
working with really dark or really bright backgrounds. But in general, the K-5 
metering is very accurate.

Paul
On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:30 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I often have 
> to use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent across old glass. 
> With the kit lens and thr 12-24 it seems to do a bit better, but  still 
> overexposes at  times. I  generally use matrix metering. Even in well lit 
> scenes in daylight. Sometimes  with the same glass it works fine at , but I'm 
> forced to chimp constantly to look for overexposure. Also the meter seems to 
> jump around on the same scene. I tried some shots between  my k-7 and it was  
> matching settings, so I  can't decide it  my meter is working properly.  
> There  is generally  a 1ev difference  if  I  compare  to live view  with  
> live view giving the correct/better exposure reading.  Any  thoughts  from 
> you guys? I bought  this k-5 six months ago and I don't remember making  -.7 
> the  norm  on my k-7. I  usually  only had to  add negative compensation at 
> night on that camera
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Re: OT - iphonography

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some excellent photos, Ken. He has a good eye.
Paul
On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:02 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

> For those on the list that don't think much of iphone photography, and for 
> those that would like to see some iphone images, I've included 2 links to 
> sites with images taken by my son which were all captured with his iphone and 
> run thru some iphone apps. I agree that the shutter pusher is more important 
> than the shutter he pushes but his images do show the capability of iphones.
> 
> http://instagram.com/toddwaller  & http://toddwaller.com/pictures/
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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Re: Doing Things the Hard Way

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good idea, Mark. I do have the old film holder.  I'll give it a try.
On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Do you still have the 4 x 5 holder for the Epson 3800? By chance I have my 
> film holders for the 3800 and V500 sitting in the same drawer. Both look like 
> they hold the film the same distance above the scanner's flatbed (no 
> micrometer handy to actually measure that.) I put the 3800 holder on the V500 
> and the lid does no close properly, because the lager pull on the frame 
> around the film keeps the lid on the V500 closing. If you have your old 3800 
> 4x5 holder, and if you could trim back the pull , you might have a  useable 
> 4x5 holder for the V500
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 3/13/2013 9:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Thanks Mark. You're right. Previous attempts with film on glass have 
>> produced Newton rings. Have to try it again with this scanner. I have some 
>> other 4 x 5s I'd like to scan.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>> 
>>> Very nice shot, Paul, and extra points for doing it the hard way. I'm 
>>> surprised you did not get Newton rings with the film on the scanner, but 
>>> the results speak for themselves.
>>> 
>>> On 3/12/2013 7:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Way back in 1975 a teacher at the Chicago high school where I taught 
 English asked if I would take a BW pic of her and her kids. Like many 
 young photographers, I had a penchant for doing things the hard way, so I 
 decided to shoot them with my Speed Graphic and 127 mm Raptor 4.5. I had 
 jerry rigged a cord so I could attach a Honeywell potato masher strobe. So 
 I did that and mounted the strobe on an umbrella that I had painted white. 
 I had to tray process the film. (Couldn't take it to a lab. That would be 
 too easy.)
 
 I'm not sure if the lady specified that she didn't want to look at the 
 camera, but neither she nor her children are looking at the camera. The 
 pic was for a newspaper column she wrote. Maybe they just thought they 
 should look at the flash.
 
 I scanned it today on the V500. Just for grins. There's no 4 x 5 film 
 holder for that scanner, so I just placed the neg on the scanner in the 
 approximate position of the overhead light. The scanning area is less than 
 4 inches wide, but I needed to crop it a bit anyway. At 3200 dpi, the scan 
 is 1.2 gigs. I may print it. Just for grins.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17035692
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Re: Doing Things the Hard Way

2013-03-13 Thread Mark C
Do you still have the 4 x 5 holder for the Epson 3800? By chance I have 
my film holders for the 3800 and V500 sitting in the same drawer. Both 
look like they hold the film the same distance above the scanner's 
flatbed (no micrometer handy to actually measure that.) I put the 3800 
holder on the V500 and the lid does no close properly, because the lager 
pull on the frame around the film keeps the lid on the V500 closing. If 
you have your old 3800 4x5 holder, and if you could trim back the pull , 
you might have a  useable 4x5 holder for the V500


Mark

On 3/13/2013 9:47 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Thanks Mark. You're right. Previous attempts with film on glass have produced 
Newton rings. Have to try it again with this scanner. I have some other 4 x 5s 
I'd like to scan.


On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Mark C  wrote:


Very nice shot, Paul, and extra points for doing it the hard way. I'm surprised 
you did not get Newton rings with the film on the scanner, but the results 
speak for themselves.

On 3/12/2013 7:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Way back in 1975 a teacher at the Chicago high school where I taught English 
asked if I would take a BW pic of her and her kids. Like many young 
photographers, I had a penchant for doing things the hard way, so I decided to 
shoot them with my Speed Graphic and 127 mm Raptor 4.5. I had jerry rigged a 
cord so I could attach a Honeywell potato masher strobe. So I did that and 
mounted the strobe on an umbrella that I had painted white. I had to tray 
process the film. (Couldn't take it to a lab. That would be too easy.)

I'm not sure if the lady specified that she didn't want to look at the camera, 
but neither she nor her children are looking at the camera. The pic was for a 
newspaper column she wrote. Maybe they just thought they should look at the 
flash.

I scanned it today on the V500. Just for grins. There's no 4 x 5 film holder 
for that scanner, so I just placed the neg on the scanner in the approximate 
position of the overhead light. The scanning area is less than 4 inches wide, 
but I needed to crop it a bit anyway. At 3200 dpi, the scan is 1.2 gigs. I may 
print it. Just for grins.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17035692


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RE: OT - iphonography

2013-03-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: 
For those on the list that don't think much of iphone photography, and for
those that would like to see some iphone images, I've included 2 links to
sites with images taken by my son which were all captured with his iphone
and run thru some iphone apps. I agree that the shutter pusher is more
important than the shutter he pushes but his images do show the capability
of iphones.

http://instagram.com/toddwaller  & http://toddwaller.com/pictures/

Comments?

Kenneth Waller


I don't have anything against iphone photos, but instagram don't do a 
damn thing for me.


Literally.

Even after I tell No Script to allow it, it don't do anything.

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Rollei/Rolleiflex-SL-26.html


On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:25 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Rollei made a 126 SLR.
> 
> On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Mark Roberts
>>  wrote:
>>> I did some reading in my Galen Rowell books. He says his 126 camera
>>> had an f/2.8 Schneider lens. Some digging on the web indicates that it
>>> was probably a Kodak.
>> 
>> Yes, my Instamatic 500 (made in Germany) has a Schneider-Kreuznach
>> 38mm f2.8 Xenar.
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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Rollei made a 126 SLR.

On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Mark Roberts
>  wrote:
>> I did some reading in my Galen Rowell books. He says his 126 camera
>> had an f/2.8 Schneider lens. Some digging on the web indicates that it
>> was probably a Kodak.
> 
> Yes, my Instamatic 500 (made in Germany) has a Schneider-Kreuznach
> 38mm f2.8 Xenar.
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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> I did some reading in my Galen Rowell books. He says his 126 camera
> had an f/2.8 Schneider lens. Some digging on the web indicates that it
> was probably a Kodak.

Yes, my Instamatic 500 (made in Germany) has a Schneider-Kreuznach
38mm f2.8 Xenar.

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
There used to be a web site where you could purchase 126 film
recently, but I think they are totally out now. I got three cartridges
before they did, and bought a couple of decent 126 cameras to use with
them. A Yashica EZ-Matic, with a 37mm f2.8 Yashinon lens
(http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Yashica_EZ-matic ), and a
Instamatic 500, which was a "high end" Instamatic, made in Germany:
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kodak_Instamatic_500

My plan is to use up the 126, but keep the cartridges and reload with
35mm film, so that the sprockets are exposed (which is a fun concept).
There are many Flickr groups:
http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?w=all&q=sprockets

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Mark Roberts
I did some reading in my Galen Rowell books. He says his 126 camera
had an f/2.8 Schneider lens. Some digging on the web indicates that it
was probably a Kodak. They made some fairly "serious" 126 cameras for
a while - even an SLR at one point! Even more amazing to me is that
they actually used the "Instamatic" brand name on some of the
expensive cameras.

Check out this discussion:
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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 March 2013 12:45, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> My Brownie is still around. Same with the Yashica. Lord knows where the 
> Instamatic might be...

I can't find my Instamatic either, it was my first camera, a later 56x
model with the Magicube flash

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Re: Doing Things the Hard Way

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Mark. You're right. Previous attempts with film on glass have produced 
Newton rings. Have to try it again with this scanner. I have some other 4 x 5s 
I'd like to scan.


On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Very nice shot, Paul, and extra points for doing it the hard way. I'm 
> surprised you did not get Newton rings with the film on the scanner, but the 
> results speak for themselves.
> 
> On 3/12/2013 7:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Way back in 1975 a teacher at the Chicago high school where I taught English 
>> asked if I would take a BW pic of her and her kids. Like many young 
>> photographers, I had a penchant for doing things the hard way, so I decided 
>> to shoot them with my Speed Graphic and 127 mm Raptor 4.5. I had jerry 
>> rigged a cord so I could attach a Honeywell potato masher strobe. So I did 
>> that and mounted the strobe on an umbrella that I had painted white. I had 
>> to tray process the film. (Couldn't take it to a lab. That would be too 
>> easy.)
>> 
>> I'm not sure if the lady specified that she didn't want to look at the 
>> camera, but neither she nor her children are looking at the camera. The pic 
>> was for a newspaper column she wrote. Maybe they just thought they should 
>> look at the flash.
>> 
>> I scanned it today on the V500. Just for grins. There's no 4 x 5 film holder 
>> for that scanner, so I just placed the neg on the scanner in the approximate 
>> position of the overhead light. The scanning area is less than 4 inches 
>> wide, but I needed to crop it a bit anyway. At 3200 dpi, the scan is 1.2 
>> gigs. I may print it. Just for grins.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17035692
> 
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Re: PESO - Free Feed at the Old Pool Hall

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> Very nice! The blond will probably shoot you if she ever sees it though.
> 
> Imagine what it would have looked like it you had shot it on Tri-X pushed to 
> 1600. In that context, I think the noise level is quite acceptable.
> 
> stan
> 

Thanks Stan. Yep, on tri-X at 1600 it would have looked like an unexposed frame 
for the most part. Digital cuts the darkness.

Paul
> On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> These ladies were  in deep shadows with a brightly lit wall behind them. No 
>> time for exposure comp. The moment would have been gone. Shot at f 2.8, 
>> 1/50th, ISO 12,800 with the DA* 50-135 at 135 mm. Pushed it 1.25 stops in 
>> conversion, so it's the equivalent of about ISO 30,000. Noisy, but I like it.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17040012&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Free Feed at the Old Pool Hall

2013-03-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Good work, captures the moment!
Regards,  Bob S.

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> These ladies were  in deep shadows with a brightly lit wall behind them. No 
> time for exposure comp. The moment would have been gone. Shot at f 2.8, 
> 1/50th, ISO 12,800 with the DA* 50-135 at 135 mm. Pushed it 1.25 stops in 
> conversion, so it's the equivalent of about ISO 30,000. Noisy, but I like it.
>
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Re: Request for specific Advice on B&W InkJet Printing (using an Epson printer).

2013-03-13 Thread Mark C
I can only comment on the mono printing. I have an Epson 3800 which used 
the K3 inks but lacks the vivid magenta. I've been very satisfied with 
the B&W printing results.


It's not my preferred way of working, but if I don't expect to need to 
print the image in the future I just use the advanced B&W stetting, run 
some test prints and tweak the tones and contrast to what I want. I do 
embed the settings into the file that I print as an EXIF comment, so I 
can reproduce the results (as long as I have this printer.) Obviously, 
the drawback with that is that I lose the ability to print that image in 
the future on a different printer and get the same results, since the 
fine tuning of the settings is done in the print driver and not in the 
image itself. I also don't get to see the image as I want it one the 
screen and then print. As I said, if I don't care about that stuff I 
just get a print that I like, make a copy, and call it day.


If I *do* want to have an archival digital reference copy I just follow 
normal calibrated work flows. Nine times out of ten that works fine. 
Sometimes I get quirky color shifts or metamerism. If the problem is not 
caused by an error on my part, I will usually just revert back to using 
advanced B&W mode in those cases, unless it limits me too much.


If you are getting color shifts when printing a mono image, print it in 
advanced B&W mode set to neutral and then see if it is shifted. If so, 
run a nozzle check and mack sure everything is OK. I have not seen color 
shifts when the printer handles the B&W settings. I have seen them when 
I mis match profiles, send a duotone to the printer without converting 
to RGB, or make other human error. Again, the drawback of letting the 
printer handle the B&W settings is that they are not directly connected 
to you digital image (and therefore cannot be reproduced on another 
printer) and you have to use trial and error to get your final result, 
since it comes off the printer and does not appear on the screen.


- Mark


On 3/11/2013 5:36 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Hello


I've been making an occasional print of some of my photographs using a
common garden inkjet printer at home.
For color work, it was OK and I was not fussy about profiles,
resemblance to the original (whatever that might mean) etc.
However, the uncontrollable color casts on monochrome and toned prints
were unbearable.

Now, I have purchased a better printer, Epson 2880. It is still in the
original package :(

My specific concerns are:

- Do I have to make a calibration or some purpose driven tests
"before" using it?
- Any concerns about using this printer under Linux?
- I care more about monochrome prints. Are there specific, crucial
settings that you think especially important in this regard?
- Most of the comments on books about digital inkjet printing suggest
that they may fail to satisfy my needs. Are there any other resources
you may suggest (paid or free)?

Thank you,

Bulent

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RE: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Enjoyed that blog post a great deal, Mark!

My mom bought an Instamatic the first year they were out. I thought it was the 
coolest thing! My dad's old Yashica A tlr seemed a relic to me.

And my Kodak Brownie just wasn't cool at all. Spools of film (127 roll film) 
were so ancient!

My Brownie is still around. Same with the Yashica. Lord knows where the 
Instamatic might be...

Cheers,
frank 

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March 1963 was when Kodak released the first Instamatic camera.

http://blog.eastmanhouse.org/2013/03/12/50th-anniversary-of-the-instamatic-1963/

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Re: PESO - Free Feed at the Old Pool Hall

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Very nice! The blond will probably shoot you if she ever sees it though.

Imagine what it would have looked like it you had shot it on Tri-X pushed to 
1600. In that context, I think the noise level is quite acceptable.

stan

On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> These ladies were  in deep shadows with a brightly lit wall behind them. No 
> time for exposure comp. The moment would have been gone. Shot at f 2.8, 
> 1/50th, ISO 12,800 with the DA* 50-135 at 135 mm. Pushed it 1.25 stops in 
> conversion, so it's the equivalent of about ISO 30,000. Noisy, but I like it.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17040012&size=lg
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PESO - Free Feed at the Old Pool Hall

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
These ladies were  in deep shadows with a brightly lit wall behind them. No 
time for exposure comp. The moment would have been gone. Shot at f 2.8, 1/50th, 
ISO 12,800 with the DA* 50-135 at 135 mm. Pushed it 1.25 stops in conversion, 
so it's the equivalent of about ISO 30,000. Noisy, but I like it.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17040012&size=lg
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Re: Doing Things the Hard Way

2013-03-13 Thread Mark C
Very nice shot, Paul, and extra points for doing it the hard way. I'm 
surprised you did not get Newton rings with the film on the scanner, but 
the results speak for themselves.


On 3/12/2013 7:51 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Way back in 1975 a teacher at the Chicago high school where I taught English 
asked if I would take a BW pic of her and her kids. Like many young 
photographers, I had a penchant for doing things the hard way, so I decided to 
shoot them with my Speed Graphic and 127 mm Raptor 4.5. I had jerry rigged a 
cord so I could attach a Honeywell potato masher strobe. So I did that and 
mounted the strobe on an umbrella that I had painted white. I had to tray 
process the film. (Couldn't take it to a lab. That would be too easy.)

I'm not sure if the lady specified that she didn't want to look at the camera, 
but neither she nor her children are looking at the camera. The pic was for a 
newspaper column she wrote. Maybe they just thought they should look at the 
flash.

I scanned it today on the V500. Just for grins. There's no 4 x 5 film holder 
for that scanner, so I just placed the neg on the scanner in the approximate 
position of the overhead light. The scanning area is less than 4 inches wide, 
but I needed to crop it a bit anyway. At 3200 dpi, the scan is 1.2 gigs. I may 
print it. Just for grins.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17035692



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PESO: Change of pace

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Actually, two images. 

Having heard the groans from snow-and-ice afflicted PDMLers as they viewed 
tropical beach and jungle shots, I offer this is to illustrate that I share 
your pain;  I came home to an ice-filled river.

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e5811daa8

But then we had a few days of warm temperatures, plus quite a bit of rain that 
helped to melt the ice and dramatically increased the height and flow rate of 
the river. So the ice broke up and went downstream two days ago. Today this guy 
showed up:

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/e5811db7a

Today we also had numerous Mallards, Canada Geese, and a pair of Common 
Goldeneye on the river in front of the house. Spring is coming . . .

stan
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OT Video about image image capture on the ISS

2013-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
http://vimeo.com/61083440

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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 March 2013 09:52, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> Noted. This behavior is with A glassFA glass too. At least its consistent 
> depending upon lighting. With m/k glass I'm pretty OK with center. They 
> usually require some compensation anyways and stop down metering just gives 
> you a reference, tho it is fairly accurate used properly.

I find the matrix metering a bit hot on both my k5 bodies, the matrix
metering doesn't seem to account for specular highlights at all well
(unlike my earlier bodies) so I have them dialed down -0.3 to -0.7 in
daylight (generally wide -0.7) and when I shoot concerts with variable
lighting I generally set them to -1.0 as otherwise I often experience
saturation in one color channel and this is regardless of the lens
used.

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
>But there *were* some fairly advanced cameras made for *126* film

http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Rolleiflex_SL26

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Re: carry-around d zoom

2013-03-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 March 2013 00:37, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> I've been looking at the same lenses because I too need a standard zoom.  The 
> photozone numbers for the borders look a lot better on the 16-45 wide open. 
> At f8 they are neck and neck. The 18-55 wr  is also  sharper  @  55  than  
> the 16-45  is at  45. Something  to consider. To  be honest, I  feel  like 
> the  kit  lens  is  the sharpest  normal zoom  pentax makes. The  16-50* may  
> be slightly sharper along the  borders and is certainly better  at  wider  
> apertures, but  I  think  it likely  has  more  field curvature. The 16-45  
> has  a  very  flat  curvature,  while  the 18-55 has a great  deal more at  
> the  wide  settings,  so  the  16-45  may  be shaper  perceptually  in 
> landscapes do  to  the  corners  being  more in focus.  I think  my  next  
> buy  is  actually  a wr  18-55.  For $100 or so used, you can't really  go 
> wrong. You won't feel too badly if it breaks either. You may find the 24mm 
> equivalent of the 16-45 more  useful  as  well as the  constant f4.  In my  
> opinion  both
> seem  to  be  about  the  same with  the  16-45  producing  nice  corners  
> for  landscapes. If I had more  cash on  hand  I  might  opt  for  the  16-45 
>  tho I  do  find  the  55mm end  of  my  first  kit  lens  rather useful.

I've owned an early 18-55 and later the WR 18-55 and very often when
reviewing images shot with either lens I wished that I had used one of
my better lenses instead (the 16-45 included in those better lenses).
Not a fan of the Pentax 18-55mm at all, they deliver mushy images from
my experience, their only saving grace is that they are very
inexpensive IMO.

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Re: PESO: West Butte Spring - RE-DO

2013-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker
I really like the composition and subject in this, Jack. Very nice.

But, is it just me or is there some slightly odd thing happening with
what looks like clipped blueness showing up scattered around the
mountainside left of the tree and peeking through the branches at the
horizon level, right? Maybe some very dark areas that were lifted up
too much?

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> I hurried this image in order to get it posted a couple places. I was advised 
> by Ken that he wasn't a fan of the lighting.
> I found his impression to be mine also.
> Am posting a complete re-do. Please forget the initial posts and would very 
> much appreciate comments.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=684
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RE: carry-around d zoom

2013-03-13 Thread John Coyle
It's a really good lens.  I've used it for a high percentage of shots in recent 
trips (Egypt and
Italy) and the quality is very good to excellent.  It's light and not too long 
or awkward to carry,
so I have no hesitation in recommending it as a walk-around lens.  You're only 
problem may be that
its maximum aperture is a constant f4.
HTH


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Anyone here use the 16-45?
How would you evaluate the results you get?
I'm looking for a carry-around for people shooting (dance studio).
And this is half the price of the 16-15/2.8.
Hopefully it produces a high quality image.



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RE: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread J.C. O'Connell
not so, they were actually slightly larger than the 24mm dimension of 35mm
film

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Mark Roberts wrote:

Correction:

>But there *were* some fairly advanced cameras made for 126 film for a

But there *were* some fairly advanced cameras made for *126* film

>while. The late, great Galen Rowell got his start shooting Kodachrome
>in a 126 camera. The slides were square and slightly smaller in height
>than the 24mm of standard 35mm film.
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126 format

2013-03-13 Thread J.C. O'Connell
>From Wiki:
In 1963, Kodak introduced a new film, encased in a plastic cartridge, for
which they re-introduced the "126" designation. (The number was originally
used for the unrelated 126 roll film format from 1906 to 1949). The term
"126" was intended to show that images were 26mm square, using Kodak's
common 1xx film numbering system. However the image size is actually 28 × 28
mm, but usually reduced to approximately 26.5 × 26.5 mm by masking during
printing or mounting.

thus its format is actually wider than 24mm "35mm film" format, its just not
as long (36mm).

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

Correction:

>But there *were* some fairly advanced cameras made for 126 film for a

But there *were* some fairly advanced cameras made for *126* film

>while. The late, great Galen Rowell got his start shooting Kodachrome
>in a 126 camera. The slides were square and slightly smaller in height
>than the 24mm of standard 35mm film.
> 
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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote:

>Ah geez! I'm pretty sure that's what my uncle gave me to shoot when we
>toured Expo 67 in Montreal. I was 11 and I think that was the turn-on
>point for photography for me.
>
>Did these produce tiny slides? I seem to recall getting slides back
>and using a viewer to see the shots.

There was such a thing as slide film in 126 format. I wouldn't
recommend it for the Instamatics, though: those cameras were fixed
shutter speed and aperture so exposure would be... problematic ;-)

But there *were* some fairly advanced cameras made for 120 film for a
while. The late, great Galen Rowell got his start shooting Kodachrome
in a 126 camera. The slides were square and slightly smaller in height
than the 24mm of standard 35mm film.
 
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PESO: West Butte Spring - RE-DO

2013-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
I hurried this image in order to get it posted a couple places. I was advised 
by Ken that he wasn't a fan of the lighting.
I found his impression to be mine also.
Am posting a complete re-do. Please forget the initial posts and would very 
much appreciate comments.

Thanks!

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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker
Ah geez! I'm pretty sure that's what my uncle gave me to shoot when we
toured Expo 67 in Montreal. I was 11 and I think that was the turn-on
point for photography for me.

Did these produce tiny slides? I seem to recall getting slides back
and using a viewer to see the shots.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> March 1963 was when Kodak released the first Instamatic camera.
>
> http://blog.eastmanhouse.org/2013/03/12/50th-anniversary-of-the-instamatic-1963/
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1188
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Re: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 5 (Curaçao)

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin

On Mar 13, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
>> 
>> Another slooow overnight transit from Aruba to neighboring Curaçao
>> which has a similar history of colonial development. Except that
>> Curaçao has been, for the last 90-100 years, a major spot for refining
>> Venezuelan oil. A much more varied population and economy. Our day in
>> Willemstad was spent wandering the streets; no off-road tours, no
>> scenic rail or bus tours. The Dutch colonial buildings are well
>> preserved, and the floating market and City Market both gave ample
>> opportunity for photos. We sampled the local beer, some Venezuelan
>> beer, and Curaçao blue liqueur. A relaxing day.
>> 
>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p871591028
>> 
> 
> All very nice and colourful. You've got lovely coconuts, and bananas to die
> for.
> 
> Number 3 is almost National Geographic, if only the hat didn't blend so much
> with the background. 
> 
> What's the name of the liner? We get big boats like that moored off
> Greenwich - could well be one that's visited here.
> 
> B

We were on the Royal Caribbean Adventure of the Seas. I am (not yet) an expert 
on this cruising business. But AFIK, Royal Caribbean pretty much sticks to the 
Caribbean with some northern migration to Alaska and the Pacific northwest in 
the summertime. So I am guessing this ship hasn't been to Greenwich/London. The 
same company owns the Celebrity and the Costa lines (and maybe others) so they 
compete in all markets without moving the ships back and forth across oceans 
with the seasons. 

BTW, I was "cheating" a bit with #3. I don't think the lady is a native. This 
was in an area not too far from where we docked. The lady seemed to be trying 
to make a cellphone call, was struggling with finding something to write with 
or write on, digging through her bag . . . She threw her stuff back up on the 
shelf, found whatever she was looking for, and stood there talking on her 
phone. She could have been local, but I think she was a Puerto Rican cruise 
passenger. Whatever - I liked the colors. Actually what first caught me eye was 
that she was quite short and had to practically stand on tiptoes to lean on the 
shelf. I was curious as to why she bothered and watched the story unfold. 

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Re: Doing Things the Hard Way

2013-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 12/3/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I'm not sure if the lady specified that she didn't want to look at the
>>camera, but neither she nor her children are looking at the camera. The
>>pic was for a newspaper column she wrote. Maybe they just thought they
>>should look at the flash.
>
> I'd match up the toddler's eyeballs to the others. Just for grins ;-)

For even bigger grins, just match one.

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RE: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I have a smc pentax k 28mm F3.5 that is razor sharp with no CA from corner
to corner on aps-c digital so its not the wide, its the lens.

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius
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Subject: Re: K-5 and over exposure?

Older wide angles are generally not corrected well for digital. Heck even
the 12-24 is a CA prone lens, though it is easily correctable. WA is tough
on digital due to the angles. My tamron 28mm had bad aberations on the
borders. On full frame it would likely be a disaster.

Peter McIntosh  wrote:

>I've got an old Vivitar 24mm prime that over-exposes on my K5 - I
>usually set compensation to -1 stop when I use this.  Which is rarely
>because the CA with this lens is awful...
>
>Haven't had it with any of my other lenses - 18-135 zoom, A 28mm
>f/2.8, A 50mm f/2.0, Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 HSM.
>
>Ciao,
>
>Pete Mac in Melbourne
>
>
>
>On 14 March 2013 08:30, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>> Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I
>often have to use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent
>across old glass. With the kit lens and thr 12-24 it seems to do a bit
>better, but  still overexposes at  times. I  generally use matrix
>metering. Even in well lit scenes in daylight. Sometimes  with the same
>glass it works fine at , but I'm forced to chimp constantly to look for
>overexposure. Also the meter seems to jump around on the same scene. I
>tried some shots between  my k-7 and it was  matching settings, so I 
>can't decide it  my meter is working properly.  There  is generally  a
>1ev difference  if  I  compare  to live view  with  live view giving
>the correct/better exposure reading.  Any  thoughts  from you guys? I
>bought  this k-5 six months ago and I don't remember making  -.7 the 
>norm  on my k-7. I  usually  only had to  add negative compensation at
>night on that camera
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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Zos Xavius
Noted. This behavior is with A glassFA glass too. At least its consistent 
depending upon lighting. With m/k glass I'm pretty OK with center. They usually 
require some compensation anyways and stop down metering just gives you a 
reference, tho it is fairly accurate used properly.

Charles Robinson  wrote:

>On Mar 13, 2013, at 17:33 , Zos Xavius  wrote:
>
>> It could very well be the glass that I am using. I just tested
>daylight, well cloudy and it seemed fine and was consistent with live
>view. I'll have to test more. Never did get a feel for these Pentax
>meters' though using center weighted and metering on the subject always
>worked well. Never used spot much other than for isolated subjects and
>even then found center slightly more useful.
>
>Remember, of course, that old "non-A" glass will always use
>center-weighted metering, too.
>
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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 13, 2013, at 17:33 , Zos Xavius  wrote:

> It could very well be the glass that I am using. I just tested daylight, well 
> cloudy and it seemed fine and was consistent with live view. I'll have to 
> test more. Never did get a feel for these Pentax meters' though using center 
> weighted and metering on the subject always worked well. Never used spot much 
> other than for isolated subjects and even then found center slightly more 
> useful.

Remember, of course, that old "non-A" glass will always use center-weighted 
metering, too.

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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Zos Xavius
Older wide angles are generally not corrected well for digital. Heck even the 
12-24 is a CA prone lens, though it is easily correctable. WA is tough on 
digital due to the angles. My tamron 28mm had bad aberations on the borders. On 
full frame it would likely be a disaster.

Peter McIntosh  wrote:

>I've got an old Vivitar 24mm prime that over-exposes on my K5 - I
>usually set compensation to -1 stop when I use this.  Which is rarely
>because the CA with this lens is awful...
>
>Haven't had it with any of my other lenses - 18-135 zoom, A 28mm
>f/2.8, A 50mm f/2.0, Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 HSM.
>
>Ciao,
>
>Pete Mac in Melbourne
>
>
>
>On 14 March 2013 08:30, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>> Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I
>often have to use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent
>across old glass. With the kit lens and thr 12-24 it seems to do a bit
>better, but  still overexposes at  times. I  generally use matrix
>metering. Even in well lit scenes in daylight. Sometimes  with the same
>glass it works fine at , but I'm forced to chimp constantly to look for
>overexposure. Also the meter seems to jump around on the same scene. I
>tried some shots between  my k-7 and it was  matching settings, so I 
>can't decide it  my meter is working properly.  There  is generally  a
>1ev difference  if  I  compare  to live view  with  live view giving
>the correct/better exposure reading.  Any  thoughts  from you guys? I
>bought  this k-5 six months ago and I don't remember making  -.7 the 
>norm  on my k-7. I  usually  only had to  add negative compensation at
>night on that camera
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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Zos Xavius
It could very well be the glass that I am using. I just tested daylight, well 
cloudy and it seemed fine and was consistent with live view. I'll have to test 
more. Never did get a feel for these Pentax meters' though using center 
weighted and metering on the subject always worked well. Never used spot much 
other than for isolated subjects and even then found center slightly more 
useful. I realize that the meters in Pentax cameras aren't superb compared to 
say Nikon's 1k segment rgb meters. I have found them serviceable. Its probably 
this glass. After dropping the camera off a tripod onto asphalt and fixing a 
bent mount ring I'm starting to look for thinking things that are wrong. I'm 
sure someone can relate. It keeps on snapping though... :)

Charles Robinson  wrote:

>On Mar 13, 2013, at 16:30 , Zos Xavius  wrote:
>
>> Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I
>often have to use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent
>across old glass. With the kit lens and thr 12-24 it seems to do a bit
>better, but  still overexposes at  times. I  generally use matrix
>metering. Even in well lit scenes in daylight. Sometimes  with the same
>glass it works fine at , but I'm forced to chimp constantly to look for
>overexposure.
>
>Sorry to hear this, Zos - I'm not noticing any such behavior with my
>K5. 
>
>Mostly I've been using the 16-50, and the two "kit" lenses.  Haven't
>thrown any really old glass on it yet - guess I should!
>
> -Charles
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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I often have 
> to use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent across old glass.

My K10D tends toward underexposure on modern (AF) lenses, but
overexposes with my A28/2.8 by about the amount you describe.

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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 13, 2013, at 16:30 , Zos Xavius  wrote:

> Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I often have 
> to use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent across old glass. 
> With the kit lens and thr 12-24 it seems to do a bit better, but  still 
> overexposes at  times. I  generally use matrix metering. Even in well lit 
> scenes in daylight. Sometimes  with the same glass it works fine at , but I'm 
> forced to chimp constantly to look for overexposure.

Sorry to hear this, Zos - I'm not noticing any such behavior with my K5. 

Mostly I've been using the 16-50, and the two "kit" lenses.  Haven't thrown any 
really old glass on it yet - guess I should!

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Re: OT - iphonography

2013-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker
Pretty nice stuff, Ken.

He must have a good phone!

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:02 PM,   wrote:
> For those on the list that don't think much of iphone photography, and for
> those that would like to see some iphone images, I've included 2 links to
> sites with images taken by my son which were all captured with his iphone
> and run thru some iphone apps. I agree that the shutter pusher is more
> important than the shutter he pushes but his images do show the capability
> of iphones.
>
> http://instagram.com/toddwaller  & http://toddwaller.com/pictures/
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> Comments?
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Re: I should patent this idea...

2013-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker
If I was a Microsoft engineer tasked with designing this idea, I'd
implement it as an SD card.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> A motion sensor in the camera and a tiny speaker that says "No card in
> the camera, dumbass!" the moment you pick it up.
> Don't ask me why this idea came to me.
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Re: I should patent this idea...

2013-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> A motion sensor in the camera and a tiny speaker that says "No card in
>> the camera, dumbass!" the moment you pick it up.
>
> Why did this idea come to you?

Don't ask.

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Re: K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Peter McIntosh
I've got an old Vivitar 24mm prime that over-exposes on my K5 - I
usually set compensation to -1 stop when I use this.  Which is rarely
because the CA with this lens is awful...

Haven't had it with any of my other lenses - 18-135 zoom, A 28mm
f/2.8, A 50mm f/2.0, Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 HSM.

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne



On 14 March 2013 08:30, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I often have 
> to use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent across old glass. 
> With the kit lens and thr 12-24 it seems to do a bit better, but  still 
> overexposes at  times. I  generally use matrix metering. Even in well lit 
> scenes in daylight. Sometimes  with the same glass it works fine at , but I'm 
> forced to chimp constantly to look for overexposure. Also the meter seems to 
> jump around on the same scene. I tried some shots between  my k-7 and it was  
> matching settings, so I  can't decide it  my meter is working properly.  
> There  is generally  a 1ev difference  if  I  compare  to live view  with  
> live view giving the correct/better exposure reading.  Any  thoughts  from 
> you guys? I bought  this k-5 six months ago and I don't remember making  -.7 
> the  norm  on my k-7. I  usually  only had to  add negative compensation at 
> night on that camera
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K-5 and over exposure?

2013-03-13 Thread Zos Xavius
Is anyone finding that their k-5 leans towards over exposure?  I often have to 
use -.7 to -1 ev compensation. I find this consistent across old glass. With 
the kit lens and thr 12-24 it seems to do a bit better, but  still overexposes 
at  times. I  generally use matrix metering. Even in well lit scenes in 
daylight. Sometimes  with the same glass it works fine at , but I'm forced to 
chimp constantly to look for overexposure. Also the meter seems to jump around 
on the same scene. I tried some shots between  my k-7 and it was  matching 
settings, so I  can't decide it  my meter is working properly.  There  is 
generally  a 1ev difference  if  I  compare  to live view  with  live view 
giving the correct/better exposure reading.  Any  thoughts  from you guys? I 
bought  this k-5 six months ago and I don't remember making  -.7 the  norm  on 
my k-7. I  usually  only had to  add negative compensation at night on that 
camera

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Re: Photography on the Beach

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I don't think so.  I think he is using "live view" or the equivalent
on his camera to compose and focus the shot.
Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:32 PM,  wrote:
>
> Chimping no less...
>
> Kenneth Waller
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>
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>
> Subject: Photography on the Beach
>
>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
>> Comments are invited.
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Re: I should patent this idea...

2013-03-13 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013, Darren Addy wrote:
>
> A motion sensor in the camera and a tiny speaker that says "No card in
> the camera, dumbass!" the moment you pick it up.

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OT - iphonography

2013-03-13 Thread kwaller
For those on the list that don't think much of iphone photography, and for 
those that would like to see some iphone images, I've included 2 links to 
sites with images taken by my son which were all captured with his iphone 
and run thru some iphone apps. I agree that the shutter pusher is more 
important than the shutter he pushes but his images do show the capability 
of iphones.


http://instagram.com/toddwaller  & http://toddwaller.com/pictures/

Comments?

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RE: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 5 (Curaçao)

2013-03-13 Thread Chris Brogden
Great shots, Stan.  I just got back from a trip to Curacao, and it's hard to
come back to blizzards once you've spent a couple weeks in tropical
paradise.  Gotta love the Floating Market as a photo op!


Chris

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:41 PM
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Subject: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 5 (Curaçao)

Another slooow overnight transit from Aruba to neighboring Curaçao which has
a similar history of colonial development. Except that Curaçao has been, for
the last 90-100 years, a major spot for refining Venezuelan oil. A much more
varied population and economy. Our day in Willemstad was spent wandering the
streets; no off-road tours, no scenic rail or bus tours. The Dutch colonial
buildings are well preserved, and the floating market and City Market both
gave ample opportunity for photos. We sampled the local beer, some
Venezuelan beer, and Curaçao blue liqueur. A relaxing day.

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p871591028

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I should patent this idea...

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
A motion sensor in the camera and a tiny speaker that says "No card in
the camera, dumbass!" the moment you pick it up.
Don't ask me why this idea came to me.

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RE: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 5 (Curaçao)

2013-03-13 Thread Bob W
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin
> 
> Another slooow overnight transit from Aruba to neighboring Curaçao
> which has a similar history of colonial development. Except that
> Curaçao has been, for the last 90-100 years, a major spot for refining
> Venezuelan oil. A much more varied population and economy. Our day in
> Willemstad was spent wandering the streets; no off-road tours, no
> scenic rail or bus tours. The Dutch colonial buildings are well
> preserved, and the floating market and City Market both gave ample
> opportunity for photos. We sampled the local beer, some Venezuelan
> beer, and Curaçao blue liqueur. A relaxing day.
> 
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p871591028
> 

All very nice and colourful. You've got lovely coconuts, and bananas to die
for.

Number 3 is almost National Geographic, if only the hat didn't blend so much
with the background. 

What's the name of the liner? We get big boats like that moored off
Greenwich - could well be one that's visited here.

B


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Fw: PESO: Wesr Butte Spring

2013-03-13 Thread Jack Davis


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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:40 PM
Subject: PESO: Wesr Butte Spring

Took a drive in the Sutter Butte area this AM. Discovered this scene on, 
unusual in that this area is normally stingy with anything colorful.What with 
the ground cover and some PSE10 help, is offered as, at least, a sign of the 
approach of Spring.
 
Grabbed from the car along West Butte Rd.
 
Comments?
 
Jack
 
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=683

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Re: Wesr Butte Spring

2013-03-13 Thread kwaller

Nice subject that just cries out for better light - less harsh.

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: PESO: Wesr Butte Spring


Took a drive in the Sutter Butte area this AM. Discovered this scene on, 
unusual in that this area is normally stingy with anything colorful.What 
with the ground cover and some PSE10 help, is offered as, at least, a sign 
of the approach of Spring.


Grabbed from the car along West Butte Rd.

Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=681


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GESO: Caribbean Chapter 5 (Curaçao)

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Another slooow overnight transit from Aruba to neighboring Curaçao which has a 
similar history of colonial development. Except that Curaçao has been, for the 
last 90-100 years, a major spot for refining Venezuelan oil. A much more varied 
population and economy. Our day in Willemstad was spent wandering the streets; 
no off-road tours, no scenic rail or bus tours. The Dutch colonial buildings 
are well preserved, and the floating market and City Market both gave ample 
opportunity for photos. We sampled the local beer, some Venezuelan beer, and 
Curaçao blue liqueur. A relaxing day.

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p871591028

stan
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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
Nice blog post. I've got a Retina that looks just like the one on your
blog post page. Need to put some film in it and have some fun.

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RE: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)

2013-03-13 Thread Bob W
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Daniel J.
> Matyola

> I hear that the famous natural bridge
> collapsed after I photographed it

sounds like you need a quieter shutter

B

> Sent: 13 March 2013 17:49
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)
> 
> Another lovely portfolio, Stan.  It brings back fond memories of our
> trip to Aruba a few years back.. We found it a friendly and attractive
> island, far safer than many other spots in the Caribbean.  Not on a
> cruise ship, though;  I hate having my liberty restricted like that.
> 
> It appears that you were able to get out into the country.  Some
> gorgeous scenery out there.  I hear that the famous natural bridge
> collapsed after I photographed it
> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8089312).  Is that true?
> said if it is.  Do they still have mines and ostrich farms out in the
> interior?  Do they still have oil tankers waiting off-shore?
> 
> Thanks for sharing your adventures with us.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> >> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:23:25 -0400
> >> From: Stan Halpin
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> >> Subject: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <5D16CC6A-2764-4EEB-8DB4-B796F6E5F00B@stans-
> photography.info>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >>
> >> After St. Kitts we spent a day at sea. Too nice to be inside the
> >> cabin, or even on the balcony, working on photos. So I tried the
> >> laptop in a recliner on the top deck near the pools. Too bright,
> even
> >> in the shady spots. So I tried reading some books I had stashed on
> my
> >> iPad. Too bright, even in the shady spots. So I lay in the sun,
> drank beer, and did some people watching.
> >> I had hoped for birds, flying fish, porpoises, whales etc. but saw
> >> little wildlife.
> >>
> >> Then came Aruba. "Aruba seceded from the Netherlands Antilles in
> 1986
> >> and became a separate, autonomous member of the Kingdom of the
> Netherlands."
> >> (According to the CIA World Factbook ) Aruban citizens carry
> >> passports from the Netherlands and often pursue their post-secondary
> >> education there. The locals tend to fluent in Dutch, English,
> Spanish, and the local patois.
> >> Aruba was a long day in port for us, 0800-2200. We had a leisurely
> >> morning (including a stop by the local Starbucks to use their WiFi
> >> hotspot to check email etc.), then joined a Toyota 4x4 Adventure
> Tour
> >> of the island. We had stops at the major attractions (including the
> >> place where the Natural Bridge used to be before it fell down a few
> >> years ago), had a lot of bumpy off-roading along the way, and
> finished off with a swim at a lovely beach.
> >> The northern windward side of the island is quite rugged with a few
> >> spots where surfing is feasible; the southern leeward side is pretty
> >> much all beaches right out of somebody's fantasy of what tropical
> >> beaches should be like. Some are busily being transformed into Miami
> >> Beach replicas; I guess you do what you gotta do when you depend on
> tourism.
> >>
> >> A few few shots from our day on the island:
> >>
> >> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p628617890
> >>
> >> stan
> >
> >
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Re: Photography on the Beach

2013-03-13 Thread kwaller

Chimping no less...

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Subject: Photography on the Beach



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
Comments are invited.
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RE: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Mark Roberts

March 1963 was when Kodak released the first Instamatic camera.

http://blog.eastmanhouse.org/2013/03/12/50th-anniversary-of-the-instamatic-1963/

http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1188


I had one of those. And I had another one later when they came out with 
the 110 cartridges. In fact, I think I might have had several of the 110 
Pocket Instamatics before finally getting a 35mm SLR.


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Re: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Yes, the natural bridge is now a natural pile of rocks. Slow erosion, with high 
waves from a hurricane dealing the final blow. The Baby Bridge is still there a 
few miles down the coast.
Not sure if they have working mines; we did pass by signs for Gold Mine Ruins. 
And ostrich farms.
Curaçao is still doing major oil refining business; not sure about Aruba.

stan

On Mar 13, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Another lovely portfolio, Stan.  It brings back fond memories of our
> trip to Aruba a few years back.. We found it a friendly and attractive
> island, far safer than many other spots in the Caribbean.  Not on a
> cruise ship, though;  I hate having my liberty restricted like that.
> 
> It appears that you were able to get out into the country.  Some
> gorgeous scenery out there.  I hear that the famous natural bridge
> collapsed after I photographed it
> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8089312).  Is that true?
> said if it is.  Do they still have mines and ostrich farms out in the
> interior?  Do they still have oil tankers waiting off-shore?
> 
> Thanks for sharing your adventures with us.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:23:25 -0400
>>> From: Stan Halpin
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)
>>> 
>>> A few few shots from our day on the island:
>>> 
>>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p628617890
>>> 
>>> stan


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Re: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Thanks Don! And Dan, Rob, Frank and others who have looked and commented. I do 
enjoy travel! I would rather have spent the time in the Nagev Desert or in 
Venice or Rome or Paris or London or Machu Pichu, but this cruise was what 
seemed feasible at the time. And I think it was time well spent, both 
photographically and in terms of its primary purpose: giving my wife a total 
break from her routine.

stan

On Mar 13, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

> Stan, I am convinced you are a natural-born travel photographer. But you & 
> Dan M. are killing me with these tropical wonderlands.
> 
> 
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:23:25 -0400
>> From: Stan Halpin
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)
>> Message-ID:
>>  <5d16cc6a-2764-4eeb-8db4-b796f6e5f...@stans-photography.info>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> After St. Kitts we spent a day at sea. Too nice to be inside the cabin, or 
>> even on the balcony, working on photos. So I tried the laptop in a recliner 
>> on the top deck near the pools. Too bright, even in the shady spots. So I 
>> tried reading some books I had stashed on my iPad. Too bright, even in the 
>> shady spots. So I lay in the sun, drank beer, and did some people watching. 
>> I had hoped for birds, flying fish, porpoises, whales etc. but saw little 
>> wildlife.
>> 
>> Then came Aruba. "Aruba seceded from the Netherlands Antilles in 1986 and 
>> became a separate, autonomous member of the Kingdom of the Netherlands." 
>> (According to the CIA World Factbook ) Aruban citizens carry passports from 
>> the Netherlands and often pursue their post-secondary education there. The 
>> locals tend to fluent in Dutch, English, Spanish, and the local patois.
>> Aruba was a long day in port for us, 0800-2200. We had a leisurely morning 
>> (including a stop by the local Starbucks to use their WiFi hotspot to check 
>> email etc.), then joined a Toyota 4x4 Adventure Tour of the island. We had 
>> stops at the major attractions (including the place where the Natural Bridge 
>> used to be before it fell down a few years ago), had a lot of bumpy 
>> off-roading along the way, and finished off with a swim at a lovely beach. 
>> The northern windward side of the island is quite rugged with a few spots 
>> where surfing is feasible; the southern leeward side is pretty much all 
>> beaches right out of somebody's fantasy of what tropical beaches should be 
>> like. Some are busily being transformed into Miami Beach replicas; I guess 
>> you do what you gotta do when you depend on tourism.
>> 
>> A few few shots from our day on the island:
>> 
>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p628617890
>> 
>> stan
> 
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Re: OT: Hummingbird Nest

2013-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Enjoyed this, Dan!
 
Jack



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Subject: OT: Hummingbird Nest

This series of photos from several years ago documents the birth of
hummingbird chicks.  There are 5 pages in all, if you click "next
page" in the lower left.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Velpics/HUM/
This inspires me every year to get out and get the yard ready for
hummingbird season!
Dan Matyola
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RE: Hummingbird Nest

2013-03-13 Thread Chris Brogden
Beautiful pics and an awesome story!  Makes me want to get a feeder going.


Chris

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PESO: Wesr Butte Spring

2013-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Took a drive in the Sutter Butte area this AM. Discovered this scene on, 
unusual in that this area is normally stingy with anything colorful.What with 
the ground cover and some PSE10 help, is offered as, at least, a sign of the 
approach of Spring.
 
Grabbed from the car along West Butte Rd.
 
Comments?
 
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http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=681

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Re: Doing Things the Hard Way

2013-03-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/3/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'm not sure if the lady specified that she didn't want to look at the
>camera, but neither she nor her children are looking at the camera. The
>pic was for a newspaper column she wrote. Maybe they just thought they
>should look at the flash. 

I'd match up the toddler's eyeballs to the others. Just for grins ;-)

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Re: OT: Hummingbird Nest

2013-03-13 Thread Alan C

That's an amazing sequence & story, Dan. A miracle of nature.
You showed great patience.

Alan C

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This series of photos from several years ago documents the birth of
hummingbird chicks.  There are 5 pages in all, if you click "next
page" in the lower left.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Velpics/HUM/
This inspires me every year to get out and get the yard ready for
hummingbird season!
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: PESO -- The Three Amigos

2013-03-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: Stan Halpin

Been there, done that with the distracting shadows.
Some thoughts on work arounds:
  - don't use flash, or
  - bounce flash, and/or
  - detach flash from camera, handhold it high overhead, dial in -1 or -2 on 
the flash, or
  - as above, with flip-up flash dialed in to -1 or so

Oops - just noticed you said 280T. Not wireless, right? So my last
two suggestions won't work, but the first two are still worth
remembering.

stan


The 280T will work with the Hot Shoe Adapter F & FG and Off-Camera 
Adapter F using any of the Sync Cord 5P cables.



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Re: Photography on the Beach

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Jack and Don, for looking and commenting.

Everyone in the scene, except the gent coming out of the water, is
there to watch the sun set (as was I).  The photographer with the
tripod was setting up for a standard sunset shot when he noticed some
iron and cement from and old pier that had been exposed by low tide,
and he adjusted the tripod to sand level to capture that while waiting
for the sun to get near the horizon.  This bit of beach junk is
something I have also photographed many times:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16996383

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> A lot going on here and I appreciate the joke in the title. Still I think
> I'd send you back to the showers. :)
>
>
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:58:07 -0400
>>
>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Photography on the Beach
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
>> Comments are invited.
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Re: Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I actually remember that!
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> March 1963 was when Kodak released the first Instamatic camera.
>
> http://blog.eastmanhouse.org/2013/03/12/50th-anniversary-of-the-instamatic-1963/
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1188
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Kodak Instamatic, 50th anniversary

2013-03-13 Thread Mark Roberts
March 1963 was when Kodak released the first Instamatic camera.

http://blog.eastmanhouse.org/2013/03/12/50th-anniversary-of-the-instamatic-1963/

http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=1188

 
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Re: PESO -- The Three Amigos

2013-03-13 Thread Bruce Walker
I didn't notice the 280T either, I assumed Peter was using the K20's
popup flash. Since the 280T both tilts and swivels, I'd recommend
either:

- bounce from ceiling, tilted up 45 degrees;
- bounce from adjacent (corner) wall, rotated 45 degrees;

- tape a white card to top of flash so it sticks out beyond end a few
inches and do #1 or #2;
- stuff a white styrofoam cup over the end of the flash and do #1 or #2.

Cheap white plastic diffusers can be bought from eBay or Amazon that
fit most flashes. Used on a tilted flash they send both direct and
reflected light to the subject. I use one all the time at parties and
events. They cost much less than the Gary Fong widget and work about
as well.

Here's a shot I took with one where I rotated and tilted the flash to
bounce from an adjacent wall ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7200852420

There's still a strong shadow behind the subject, but it's much less
"deer in the headlights" than with an on-camera flash. The direct fill
is softened and reduced so it lifts shadows but doesn't overwhelm.


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> Been there, done that with the distracting shadows.
> Some thoughts on work arounds:
>   - don't use flash, or
>   - bounce flash, and/or
>   - detach flash from camera, handhold it high overhead, dial in -1 or -2 on 
> the flash, or
>   - as above, with flip-up flash dialed in to -1 or so
>
> Oops - just noticed you said 280T. Not wireless, right? So my last two 
> suggestions won't work, but the first two are still worth remembering.
>
> stan
>
> On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:56 PM, aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You shoot with the equipment you've got with ya'.
>>
>> On 3/12/2013 6:12 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> I'd have been more concerned about the unfortunately harsh on-axis
>>> light and shadows. ;-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:31 PM, aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com
>>>  wrote:
 I thought this was pretty good until I noticed the unfortunate sconce
 growing out of the top of the guy on the rights head, oh well.  Sometimes
 content trumps composition...

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20threeamigos.html

 Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 w/Pentax AF 280T

 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>>>
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>>>
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Re: PESO: Comet PanSTARRS & Crescent Moon

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
LOL.
It was about 35 degrees, but a pretty good breeze blowing made it feel
a lot colder. Fortunately, I strategized: I went up on Yanney Tower
(seen here from the north:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8002062029/in/set-72157631571806897/lightbox/
) and was protected from the north wind by the building/elevator.

The comet follows the sun down in the west. Properly exposed photos
should start picking it up 30-40 minutes after sundown.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Cool! No I mean really wasn't it cold taking that picture. What part of the
> sky is that, maybe I could take something from my patio window.
>
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:34:53 -0500
>> From: Darren Addy
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: PESO: Comet PanSTARRS & Crescent Moon
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>
>> Picked up the thin crescent moon at 8:00 CDT, but didn't see the comet
>> captured until 8:17. Photographed until approx 8:50. Here are a couple
>> of images, simply processed on the iPad with SnapSeed. Could not see
>> it visually.
>>
>> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNLOKWCUAEg2hq.jpg#twimg
>>
>> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNMXwtCEAEfcXK.jpg#twimg
>>
>> More to come tomorrow with some Photoshop pp. and maybe a short time
>> lapse.
>>
>> All taken with the K-5 and Bigma combo, mostly 3-5 second exposures at
>> f/6.3-f/8, ISOs 200 - 800.
>>
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Re:Photography on the Beach

2013-03-13 Thread Don Guthrie
A lot going on here and I appreciate the joke in the title. Still I 
think I'd send you back to the showers. :)



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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17037892
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Re: PESO: Comet PanSTARRS & Crescent Moon

2013-03-13 Thread Don Guthrie
Cool! No I mean really wasn't it cold taking that picture. What part of 
the sky is that, maybe I could take something from my patio window.


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Picked up the thin crescent moon at 8:00 CDT, but didn't see the comet
captured until 8:17. Photographed until approx 8:50. Here are a couple
of images, simply processed on the iPad with SnapSeed. Could not see
it visually.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNLOKWCUAEg2hq.jpg#twimg

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNMXwtCEAEfcXK.jpg#twimg

More to come tomorrow with some Photoshop pp. and maybe a short time lapse.

All taken with the K-5 and Bigma combo, mostly 3-5 second exposures at
f/6.3-f/8, ISOs 200 - 800.




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Re: PESO 2013 - 030-033 - GDG

2013-03-13 Thread Don Guthrie

Man Ray fro sure. Which is a good thing IMHO.

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A few new photos up on flickr.com ... Zone plate/pinhole stuff, experimenting with more 
new ideas. Someone on another forum said I was "channeling Man Ray" which I 
think is a neat way of putting it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8554066698/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8554066620/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8552965207/lightbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8554066554/lightbox

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 83, Issue 70

2013-03-13 Thread Don Guthrie

Only retired guys have the freedom to post a picture like that.


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Quoting aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com:

>I thought this was pretty good until I noticed the unfortunate
>sconce growing out of the top of the guy on the rights head, oh
>well.  Sometimes content trumps composition...
>
>https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20threeamigos.html
>
>Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 w/Pentax AF 280T


I'll see your "Three Amigos" and raise you this:

http://lyons-ryan.org/lta/three_amigos.jpg

Back story:  When I and two close mates retired from gainful
employment we decided to meet for a monthly lunch. Of course we called
ourselves 'Los tres Amigos'.  We've been meeting monthly (more or
less) since 2007 and even produced a Blurb book of our exploits.

That's me on the left if anyone's interested.

Your three amigos is classy, despite the head appendage.




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Re: GESO: Caribbean Chapter 4 (Aruba)

2013-03-13 Thread Don Guthrie
Stan, I am convinced you are a natural-born travel photographer. But you 
& Dan M. are killing me with these tropical wonderlands.



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After St. Kitts we spent a day at sea. Too nice to be inside the cabin, or even 
on the balcony, working on photos. So I tried the laptop in a recliner on the 
top deck near the pools. Too bright, even in the shady spots. So I tried 
reading some books I had stashed on my iPad. Too bright, even in the shady 
spots. So I lay in the sun, drank beer, and did some people watching. I had 
hoped for birds, flying fish, porpoises, whales etc. but saw little wildlife.

Then came Aruba. "Aruba seceded from the Netherlands Antilles in 1986 and became a 
separate, autonomous member of the Kingdom of the Netherlands." (According to the 
CIA World Factbook ) Aruban citizens carry passports from the Netherlands and often 
pursue their post-secondary education there. The locals tend to fluent in Dutch, English, 
Spanish, and the local patois.
Aruba was a long day in port for us, 0800-2200. We had a leisurely morning 
(including a stop by the local Starbucks to use their WiFi hotspot to check 
email etc.), then joined a Toyota 4x4 Adventure Tour of the island. We had 
stops at the major attractions (including the place where the Natural Bridge 
used to be before it fell down a few years ago), had a lot of bumpy off-roading 
along the way, and finished off with a swim at a lovely beach. The northern 
windward side of the island is quite rugged with a few spots where surfing is 
feasible; the southern leeward side is pretty much all beaches right out of 
somebody's fantasy of what tropical beaches should be like. Some are busily 
being transformed into Miami Beach replicas; I guess you do what you gotta do 
when you depend on tourism.

A few few shots from our day on the island:

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p628617890

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Re: Peso Black Hill Farm

2013-03-13 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Rick, Glad you liked the farm. The 2nd one was certainly all 
about the composition.

Now I've got to find something to post for this week.

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Don,

The top one is outstanding--very dramatic, very ominous.

The bottom one has an appealing composition, but the snow is a bit on the grey 
side (and you aren't in a big city!).

Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Comet PanSTARRS & Crescent Moon

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
Thanks for the comments. Larger image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8555015868/in/photostream/lightbox/
2.5 sec @ f/8, ISO 800

Here is one taken by another fellow in our area. A nice shot, but
guessing he's a Canon shooter by the looks of the noise:
http://goo.gl/2IslH
: )




On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Very nice.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> Picked up the thin crescent moon at 8:00 CDT, but didn't see the comet
>> captured until 8:17. Photographed until approx 8:50. Here are a couple
>> of images, simply processed on the iPad with SnapSeed. Could not see
>> it visually.
>>
>> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNLOKWCUAEg2hq.jpg#twimg
>>
>> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNMXwtCEAEfcXK.jpg#twimg
>>
>> More to come tomorrow with some Photoshop pp. and maybe a short time lapse.
>>
>> All taken with the K-5 and Bigma combo, mostly 3-5 second exposures at
>> f/6.3-f/8, ISOs 200 - 800.
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Re: PESO - The Shane-man (messenger content)

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Really nice cyclist portrait. Not sure it works as a Messenger photo though. 1) 
His hand is on the brake lever. Messengers don't ever slow down do they? 2) He 
doesn't look intense, he's not in a hurry to get someplace. Don't use this to 
advertise your service!

stan

On Mar 11, 2013, at 11:07 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> One nice thing about not taking photos these days is that I have a chance to 
> look at old folders for some shots that I might have missed. 
> 
> I took this one of Shane going about his business back in September. I kind 
> of like it: nice tilt and lots of blurry bits:
> 
> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/03/blog-post_11.html?m=1
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank 
> 
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Re: PESO -- The Three Amigos

2013-03-13 Thread Stan Halpin
Been there, done that with the distracting shadows.
Some thoughts on work arounds:
  - don't use flash, or
  - bounce flash, and/or
  - detach flash from camera, handhold it high overhead, dial in -1 or -2 on 
the flash, or
  - as above, with flip-up flash dialed in to -1 or so

Oops - just noticed you said 280T. Not wireless, right? So my last two 
suggestions won't work, but the first two are still worth remembering.

stan

On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:56 PM, aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com wrote:

> You shoot with the equipment you've got with ya'.
> 
> On 3/12/2013 6:12 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> I'd have been more concerned about the unfortunately harsh on-axis
>> light and shadows. ;-)
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:31 PM, aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>>> I thought this was pretty good until I noticed the unfortunate sconce
>>> growing out of the top of the guy on the rights head, oh well.  Sometimes
>>> content trumps composition...
>>> 
>>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20threeamigos.html
>>> 
>>> Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0 w/Pentax AF 280T
>>> 
>>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>> 
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>> 


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Re: Photography on the Beach

2013-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
The guy on the right appears to be "protecting" his lady from that photog. 
Gave me a grin.

Jack


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Re: PESO 2013 - 030-033 - GDG

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I really like the self portrait;  the grain, the cropping and the
vintage feel combine for an appealing image.
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On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> A few new photos up on flickr.com ... Zone plate/pinhole stuff, experimenting 
> with more new ideas. Someone on another forum said I was "channeling Man Ray" 
> which I think is a neat way of putting it.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8554066698/lightbox
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8554066620/lightbox
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8552965207/lightbox
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8554066554/lightbox
>
> enjoy!
>
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Re: PESO: Comet PanSTARRS & Crescent Moon

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice.
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On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Picked up the thin crescent moon at 8:00 CDT, but didn't see the comet
> captured until 8:17. Photographed until approx 8:50. Here are a couple
> of images, simply processed on the iPad with SnapSeed. Could not see
> it visually.
>
> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNLOKWCUAEg2hq.jpg#twimg
>
> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNMXwtCEAEfcXK.jpg#twimg
>
> More to come tomorrow with some Photoshop pp. and maybe a short time lapse.
>
> All taken with the K-5 and Bigma combo, mostly 3-5 second exposures at
> f/6.3-f/8, ISOs 200 - 800.
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Re: PESO: Comet PanSTARRS & Crescent Moon

2013-03-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 12, 2013, at 22:34 , Darren Addy  wrote:

> Picked up the thin crescent moon at 8:00 CDT, but didn't see the comet
> captured until 8:17. Photographed until approx 8:50. Here are a couple
> of images, simply processed on the iPad with SnapSeed. Could not see
> it visually.
> 
> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNLOKWCUAEg2hq.jpg#twimg
> 
> http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFNMXwtCEAEfcXK.jpg#twimg
> 

I must say it certainly looks less dramatic than I was led to expect.  Nice 
grab.

Looks like skies MIGHT be clear in Minneapolis tonight. Now I have to figure 
out where I can look West clearly and decide if I want to travel out to the 
suburbs for this.  Hmmm.

Thanks for sharing, Darren!

 -Charles

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Re: carry-around d zoom

2013-03-13 Thread Jack Davis
Hi, Collin. I've had a DA 16~45 for for since they first became available. I've 
thought a few times i might swap in for a DA*16-50 but in reviewing images, 
couldn't really justify making the change.
For exasmple, I have a framed 16~20 print that's been hanging in my home since 
2010. It continuously pleases me each time I stop and take another close look 
at it.
I have no plan to replace it.

Jack



From: Collin Brendemuehl 
To: pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 4:04 AM
Subject: carry-around d zoom

Anyone here use the 16-45?
How would you evaluate the results you get?
I'm looking for a carry-around for people shooting (dance studio).
And this is half the price of the 16-15/2.8.
Hopefully it produces a high quality image.



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Re: carry-around d zoom

2013-03-13 Thread Zos Xavius
I've been looking at the same lenses because I too need a standard zoom.  The 
photozone numbers for the borders look a lot better on the 16-45 wide open. At 
f8 they are neck and neck. The 18-55 wr  is also  sharper  @  55  than  the 
16-45  is at  45. Something  to consider. To  be honest, I  feel  like the  kit 
 lens  is  the sharpest  normal zoom  pentax makes. The  16-50* may  be 
slightly sharper along the  borders and is certainly better  at  wider  
apertures, but  I  think  it likely  has  more  field curvature. The 16-45  has 
 a  very  flat  curvature,  while  the 18-55 has a great  deal more at  the  
wide  settings,  so  the  16-45  may  be shaper  perceptually  in landscapes do 
 to  the  corners  being  more in focus.  I think  my  next  buy  is  actually  
a wr  18-55.  For $100 or so used, you can't really  go wrong. You won't feel 
too badly if it breaks either. You may find the 24mm equivalent of the 16-45 
more  useful  as  well as the  constant f4.  In my  opinion  both 
seem  to  be  about  the  same with  the  16-45  producing  nice  corners  for  
landscapes. If I had more  cash on  hand  I  might  opt  for  the  16-45  tho I 
 do  find  the  55mm end  of  my  first  kit  lens  rather useful.

Mark C  wrote:

>I use one when I need a standard zoom, usually when traveling. The 24mm
>
>wider end is very nice. It is sharp but not outstanding and is a bit 
>prone to CA. The reverse zooming action (lens is longest at the wide 
>setting) means that you sometimes can't use the internal flash when 
>shooting wide and close (the lens barrel will  lay a huge shadow out 
>into the image.) Overall, I would say it is comparable in quality to
>the 
>18-55 but with a little better (for me) zoom range due to the wider 
>short end.
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>On 3/13/2013 7:04 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>> Anyone here use the 16-45?
>> How would you evaluate the results you get?
>> I'm looking for a carry-around for people shooting (dance studio).
>> And this is half the price of the 16-15/2.8.
>> Hopefully it produces a high quality image.
>>
>>
>>


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Re: carry-around d zoom

2013-03-13 Thread Mark C
I use one when I need a standard zoom, usually when traveling. The 24mm 
wider end is very nice. It is sharp but not outstanding and is a bit 
prone to CA. The reverse zooming action (lens is longest at the wide 
setting) means that you sometimes can't use the internal flash when 
shooting wide and close (the lens barrel will  lay a huge shadow out 
into the image.) Overall, I would say it is comparable in quality to the 
18-55 but with a little better (for me) zoom range due to the wider 
short end.


Mark



On 3/13/2013 7:04 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

Anyone here use the 16-45?
How would you evaluate the results you get?
I'm looking for a carry-around for people shooting (dance studio).
And this is half the price of the 16-15/2.8.
Hopefully it produces a high quality image.






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Re: PESO: Comet PanSTARRS & Crescent Moon

2013-03-13 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> focal length?

I started out wide (50mm) until I picked up the exact location of the
comet. If I wanted the moon and comet in the same image, I couldn't go
much over 150mm. I pulled back wider to bring the ground in on some
shots (that I will try to do a time lapse from later today). For the
final several images, when the sky was darkest, I zoomed in to 500mm
on the comet itself.

All images were shot with the 2 sec. self-timer to get mirror up and
give vibrations time to settle down.

Last night was probably the easiest to locate the comet thanks to the
thin crescent moon location (also making it the most picturesque
evening sky) so I'm glad that the Nebraska skies picked last night to
finally give me an opportunity to see it.

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Re: Doing Things the Hard Way

2013-03-13 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Mar 12, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Jack Davis 
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> 
> 
> That's a nice image, Paul. However, I'd have to clone out that flash 
> reflecting metal strip coming out of the teacher's head. 

Thanks Jack. You may have given that a  but i think I'll do it. It's a 
fireplace screen. I already cloned out some fingerprints on the black marble 
just above it.

> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
> From: Paul Stenquist 
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:51 PM
> Subject: Doing Things the Hard Way
> 
> Way back in 1975 a teacher at the Chicago high school where I taught English 
> asked if I would take a BW pic of her and her kids. Like many young 
> photographers, I had a penchant for doing things the hard way, so I decided 
> to shoot them with my Speed Graphic and 127 mm Raptor 4.5. I had jerry rigged 
> a cord so I could attach a Honeywell potato masher strobe. So I did that and 
> mounted the strobe on an umbrella that I had painted white. I had to tray 
> process the film. (Couldn't take it to a lab. That would be too easy.) 
> 
> I'm not sure if the lady specified that she didn't want to look at the 
> camera, but neither she nor her children are looking at the camera. The pic 
> was for a newspaper column she wrote. Maybe they just thought they should 
> look at the flash. 
> 
> I scanned it today on the V500. Just for grins. There's no 4 x 5 film holder 
> for that scanner, so I just
> placed the neg on the scanner in the approximate position of the overhead 
> light. The scanning area is less than 4 inches wide, but I needed to crop it 
> a bit anyway. At 3200 dpi, the scan is 1.2 gigs. I may print it. Just for 
> grins.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17035692
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