GESO Lichenscapes

[Rob Studdert]

Hi Team

Some pics from a vacation bush walk:

https://plus.google.com/photos/100717932944223796708/albums/5873977800285686929?banner=pwa&authkey=CPH32cvg0rKR8wE

All but the first image captured using the 35LTD Macro, hand held.

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Re: Test

[Boris Liberman]

Hear you loud-n-clear.


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Is this thing on???

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Re: OT How many of these cameras have owned/own?

[Bill]

On 03/05/2013 12:07 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:



Isn't that a shot of Bill Robb's closet?

Lenses are my thing. Bodies not so much. Having said that, I have, over 
the years, owned a couple of dozen cameras, perhaps as many as 30.


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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Bob W]

On 3 May 2013, at 23:22, John Sessoms  wrote:

> From: Bob W
>> That may be the case in the US, but not in the UK.
> 
> That appears to be the purpose of the change brought by the new law.
> 

No, the proposed law has nothing to do with whether people could claim damages 
or not for breaches of copyright.

But if Satan Inc. stole my pictures and claimed they had looked diligently but 
fruitlessly for the owner, I would have to prove that they hadn't, which would 
be rather difficult. 

But what tends to happen is that neither party wants to enrich the lawyers if 
they can avoid it, so they settle out of court. In a case like this, if I could 
show that I was the rightful owner I suspect that Satan Inc. would pay for the 
use they'd made of the pictures, and I would accept, as I imagine most 
photographers would. Trying to get some sort of punitive damages would be in 
nobody's interest but the lawyers'.

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Re: PESO - Name That Bird

[Matthew Hunt]

Northern Mockingbird. They are mimics, adept at singing the songs of
other birds, as well as car alarms and such. And unlike most
songbirds, they'll do it all night long.

Nice shot.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:10 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Any ideas? About the size of a robin, with a very loud, beautiful, melodic 
> song, I've seen a few of these around this year:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/name-that-bird.html?m=1
>
> Any thoughts on identifying this guy would be appreciated, as would comments 
> on the photo itself.
>
> Hope you enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
> "For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and 
> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
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PESO - Name That Bird

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Any ideas? About the size of a robin, with a very loud, beautiful, melodic 
song, I've seen a few of these around this year:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/name-that-bird.html?m=1 

Any thoughts on identifying this guy would be appreciated, as would comments on 
the photo itself.

Hope you enjoy!

Cheers,
frank


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PESO One that nearly got away

[Rob Studdert]

Hi Team,

Following is one of the lost images that I recovered from my memory
card last week. Fortuantely the 200+ images that failed to copy were
not written over even though I had used and formatted (in-camera) the
card twice before I discovered the error.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGQ12379.jpg

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Re: GESO: Standard Spring Stuff

[Rick Womer]

I like the flower best.

And, I have never seen ducks in trees before!

Rick
 
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Subject: GESO: Standard Spring Stuff

A small set mostly for bird lovers... a Cardinal and a pair of Wood
Ducks taken with the Bigma.
I boosted the ISO to 800 even though it was a sunny day, to get higher
shutter speeds with the 500mm. But that's not all! Call now and you'll
also receive a flower shot with my first dabbling with the Tokina AT-X
90mm f2.5 Macro (PK/A) - at no additonal charge!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157633388620064/

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Re: GESO - Spring Wildflowers

[Rick Womer]

Love them, especially #s 2, 5, and 7 (if I'm counting right at this hour!).

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- Original Message -
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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 12:02 AM
Subject: GESO - Spring Wildflowers

I was late to the party this year and missed the hepatica, blood root, 
and other early species; but managed to get a few trillium, spring 
beauty, dutchman's britches and false rue anemone today:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2013/IMGP1417

I carried my K-5 but used the K-01 exclusively - I and came out of the 
woods much less muddy than usual since I did not not have to get down to 
put by eye to finder. Unless I manage to get out tomorrow (unlikely) 
this will be my only wildflower venture for this spring.

C&C welcomed.

Mark

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Re: Test

[Christine Aguila]

Yep! 

Christine Aguila, Asst. Professor
Communications Dept.
Truman College
FC4 President

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> Ok. How about this?
> (Trying to work this out from my iPhone...)
> 
> -c
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Yes I see your test.  Christine
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
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>> Is this thing on???
>> 
>> -c
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Re: Test

[Christine Nielsen]

Eureka!  Thanks!!

:)
-c

On May 3, 2013, at 9:54 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

Seems to be working  

-p

Sent from my iPad

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> Ok. How about this?
> (Trying to work this out from my iPhone...)
> 
> -c
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
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> Yes I see your test.  Christine
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
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>> Is this thing on???
>> 
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Re: Test

[Paul Sorenson]

Seems to be working  

-p

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> Ok. How about this?
> (Trying to work this out from my iPhone...)
> 
> -c
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> 
> Yes I see your test.  Christine
> 
> On May 3, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
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>> Is this thing on???
>> 
>> -c
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Re: OT Profile of a low light photographer

[Rick Womer]

ISO 3200. Huh. Wimp!
 
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- Original Message -
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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: OT Profile of a low light photographer

Hi Team,

I ran the ExposurePlot program over my last 6 months of images, the
graphs tell the story:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/3052013%20144212.jpg

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Re: Recommendations for lens repair?

[Joseph McAllister]

On May 1, 2013, at 09:58 , Mark Roberts wrote:

> Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe the tab for the lens repair was around $200. It was a motor 
>>> replacement job. They also did a CLA while they were at it. When I checked 
>>> focus accuracy after it had been returned, I found it to be right on. New I 
>>> think I had it set at -2.
>>> 
>>> I'll see if I can find the invoice later. I'm on a boring conference call 
>>> at the moment:-).
>> 
>> Do you have time to tell me how long they took to turn it around?
> 
> By the way - $200 seems to be in the ballpark. KEH service wants
> $230.00

C.R.I.S. charged me $230.00 a year ago to replace the motor in my DA* 50-135. 
Time was immaterial as I dropped it off on my two month trip around the west. 
They shipped it to me once I returned. They did not have the camera, it was in 
use.


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Re: Test

[Christine Nielsen]

Ok. How about this?
(Trying to work this out from my iPhone...)

-c

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Re: Test

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Yes I see your test.  Christine

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Test

[Christine Nielsen]

Is this thing on???

-c

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Re: PESO: Spring in Minnesota

[Rick Womer]

A friend in Rochester, MN sent me a pic yesterday of 8 inches of snow around 
her house, and more coming down.

In May.  Ugh.  

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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:26 AM
Subject: PESO: Spring in Minnesota

One of the more difficult shots to take is one that makes it look like it is 
really snowing.

This seems to capture the essence:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__0087.jpg

Very disappointing.  

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Re: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[Stan Halpin]

Handsome cat, great portrait!

stan

On May 3, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Alan C wrote:

> One of our cats basking in the early morning sun. He is a domesticated feral
> displaying the dominant African Wild Cat fur colouring. Unfortunately, this
> accomplished hunter terrorizes the garden birds & lizards.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8703175131/in/photostream/lightbox/
> 
> K110   FA 100-300 @100  F8  1/1250  ISO400
> 
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Mark Roberts]

John Sessoms wrote:

>From: Mark Roberts
>> John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>>> They don't have to "settle" with you. Under the law, all they have to do
>>> is stop using your photo ... IF YOU CAN PROVE IT'S YOURS.
>>
>> This is not true. If you've registered your copyright they are liable
>> for compensatory and statutory damages.
>
>Seems like this legislation is aimed at changing that, at least for so 
>called "orphan" works.

Yes. It would establish in the UK what is already policy in the US.
But in this image-searchable-Internet age it's more difficult than
ever to prove that something is an orphan work: Removing the metadata
and watermark from one image isn't enough — you'd have to remove it
from every copy of the image everywhere on the web (even the original
photographer's web site).

 
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts

John Sessoms wrote:


They don't have to "settle" with you. Under the law, all they have to do
is stop using your photo ... IF YOU CAN PROVE IT'S YOURS.


This is not true. If you've registered your copyright they are liable
for compensatory and statutory damages.


Seems like this legislation is aimed at changing that, at least for so 
called "orphan" works.


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Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[kwaller]

Most of the images have a very nice crispness about them!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Don Guthrie" 

Subject: Geso My Spring Flowers


Yesterday we got 6 inches of very wet snow. In my yard it collapsed the 
roof on my gazebo, uprooted a 40 yr old evergreen and broke a large branch 
which fell on the neighbor's fence. Plus breaking several limbs on other 
trees and my lilac bush. Other than that it was a fine Spring day with a 
high of 39. This AM it is lightly snowing again.


So it is in defiance of winter that I post these Spring photos taken in 
the days before the storm. I used several lenses and a couple of cameras 
here. One or two of the "daffy" pix may have been taken with my OLY - 
purists may avert their eyes. Join me in my efforts to start Spring. DIE 
WINTER DIE!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633389393387/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8703243170/in/set-72157633389393387/lightbox/



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Re: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[kwaller]

Great shot of a very good lookong animal !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan C" 

Subject: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads


One of our cats basking in the early morning sun. He is a domesticated 
feral
displaying the dominant African Wild Cat fur colouring. Unfortunately, 
this

accomplished hunter terrorizes the garden birds & lizards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8703175131/in/photostream/lightbox/

K110   FA 100-300 @100  F8  1/1250  ISO400

Alan C



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OT Profile of a low light photographer

[Rob Studdert]

Hi Team,

I ran the ExposurePlot program over my last 6 months of images, the
graphs tell the story:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/3052013%20144212.jpg

Cheers,

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Re: GESO - Spring Wildflowers

[kwaller]

Excellent captures Mark!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark C" 

Subject: GESO - Spring Wildflowers


I was late to the party this year and missed the hepatica, blood root, 
and other early species; but managed to get a few trillium, spring 
beauty, dutchman's britches and false rue anemone today:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2013/IMGP1417

I carried my K-5 but used the K-01 exclusively - I and came out of the 
woods much less muddy than usual since I did not not have to get down to 
put by eye to finder. Unless I manage to get out tomorrow (unlikely) 
this will be my only wildflower venture for this spring.


C&C welcomed.

Mark



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Re: PESO: Pierced

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 May 2013 08:04, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/8706054460/in/set-72157633397165725/
>
> ... More accurately, it might be a CESO... I finally got around to
> upgrading to LR4, and re-importing the print templates... they are fun
> to play with to create collages, etc.
>
> Images made with the K-01 & 40mm xs...

Nicely done and absolutely no need to employ LR's raft of retouching tools :)

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Re: No character like Pentax character

[Derby Chang]

Beautiful and true

On 4/05/2013 3:58 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Very nice words for our fave old glass ...

"[the film was shot] through the vintage Super-Takumar era screwmount
Pentax lens kit I assembled. Ain’t no lens like a Pentax lens (pay
attention to the color and look of the footage with books, this glass
is from the sixties or seventies depending and you can taste that,
this is not lost on people).

And hell yes on the lens flares, so perfect. A $10,000 Cooke Panchero
or ARRI Master Prime will never have as much character."

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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[John Sessoms]

From: Bob W

That may be the case in the US, but not in the UK.


That appears to be the purpose of the change brought by the new law.

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Re: GESO: Daffodil Gallery

[steve harley]

on 2013-04-28 21:53 Daniel J. Matyola wrote

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1052605
Comments are invited.


nice job putting that together, and you are quite a narcissus collector

i would like to know what varieties 058 and 085 are, though i'm sure i could 
find something in a reference; i have only three varieties myself, 'minnow', 
'jetfire', and a white/yellow variety from before i bought the house in '99


with the contrasty exposures, i like the dark, simple backgrounds best, though 
i think a softer exposure might also benefit the character of daffodils


last year in early April i visited the New York Botanical Garden in the Bronx 
where there were probably over a hundred varieties of narcissus in bloom - 
quite a display, and a good chance to look for desirable varieties




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PESO: Pierced

[Christine Nielsen]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/8706054460/in/set-72157633397165725/

... More accurately, it might be a CESO... I finally got around to
upgrading to LR4, and re-importing the print templates... they are fun
to play with to create collages, etc.

Images made with the K-01 & 40mm xs...

:)
-c

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Kenneth Waller]

Nice capture. 


-Original Message-
>From: Jack Davis 
>Subject: PESO: Redwing
>
>
>Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. Never 
>completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more shine 
>in their reflections.
>I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and third 
>progressively less detailed.
>The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
>
>Comments?
>
>Jack
>
>K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
> 
> 
>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=691



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Re: Adaptor stuck at an adaptall lens

[Tim Øsleby]

I could do that. Not tonight, but tomorrow
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2013/5/3 Larry Colen :
> On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:14:03PM +0200, Tim Øsleby wrote:
>> Sigh.
>> Thanks, sigh.
>>
>> I have a engineer minded friend. Think I have to call for his assistance.
>
> Tim,
>
> Is there any chance that you could take some pictures of
> the setup and post them for us to see?
>
>

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Re: PAW173 - Windows

[DagT]

3. mai 2013 kl. 22:44 skrev Aahz Maruch :

> On Fri, May 03, 2013, DagT wrote:
>> Aahz:
>>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013, DagT wrote:
 
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Pentax K-5, FA77,  f/7.1, 1/125s, ISO100
>>> 
>>> One of these windows is not like the others
>> 
>> Yeah, as usual...
> 
> In case you're not familiar with certain aspects of American culture,
> that was a reference to a song on the children's TV program, "Sesame
> Street".  The second half would go, "...one of these windows just
> doesn't belong."
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I think I´m too old to have seen all the Sesame street episodes, but we had 
another strange series about two guys repairing things. In one of the the 
episodes the repair men saw a windows behaving strange (jumping up and down), 
and the assistant asked if the window had to be repaired. His boss answered: 
"No, I think it is home alone". Strange how associations work :-)

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for kind comments, Dan and Paul!

Jack



From: Paul Stenquist 
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Subject: Re: PESO: Redwing


Excellent! 
On May 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> 
> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
> shine in their reflections.
> I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and 
> third progressively less detailed.
> The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Jack
> 
> K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
>  
>  
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=691
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Re: PAW173 - Windows

[Aahz Maruch]

On Fri, May 03, 2013, DagT wrote:
> Aahz:
>> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013, DagT wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>>> Pentax K-5, FA77,  f/7.1, 1/125s, ISO100
>> 
>> One of these windows is not like the others
>
> Yeah, as usual...

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that was a reference to a song on the children's TV program, "Sesame
Street".  The second half would go, "...one of these windows just
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Re: Adaptor stuck at an adaptall lens

[Larry Colen]

On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:14:03PM +0200, Tim Øsleby wrote:
> Sigh.
> Thanks, sigh.
> 
> I have a engineer minded friend. Think I have to call for his assistance.

Tim, 

Is there any chance that you could take some pictures of 
the setup and post them for us to see? 



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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent! 
On May 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> 
> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
> shine in their reflections.
> I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and 
> third progressively less detailed.
> The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Jack
> 
> K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
>  
>  
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=691
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Re: Adaptor stuck at an adaptall lens

[Darren Addy]

There are two versions of the Adaptall manual available here
http://www.butkus.org/chinon/tamron_adaptall/tamron_adaptall.htm

The part I always seem to forget is that you have to have the aperture
set at one end of the range or the other before attaching/detaching.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
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> Thanks, sigh.
>
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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Lots of detail in the features, classic pose, just about perfect.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
> shine in their reflections.
> I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and 
> third progressively less detailed.
> The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
>
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=691
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Re: PAW173 - Windows

[DagT]

Yeah, as usual...

Thanks Aahz, and Christine, Stan, Tim and Dan!

DagT

1. mai 2013 kl. 22:44 skrev Aahz Maruch :

> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013, DagT wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> Pentax K-5, FA77,  f/7.1, 1/125s, ISO100
> 
> One of these windows is not like the others
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Re: PAW173 - Windows

[DagT]

I see what you mean. Sometimes I´m afraid to remove too much :-)

Thanks Bruce and Don!

DagT


29. apr. 2013 kl. 18:29 skrev Bruce Walker :

> What Don said. And an excellent image.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
>> I like this one. I think it would be more effective without the lower line
>> of reflections - more abstract & spare.
>> 
>> 
>> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 21:41:48 +0200
>>> From: DagT
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: PAW173 - Windows
>>> Message-ID:
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>>> Pentax K-5, FA77,  f/7.1, 1/125s, ISO100
>>> 
>>> 
>>> DagT
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Re: Adaptor stuck at an adaptall lens

[Tim Øsleby]

Sigh.
Thanks, sigh.

I have a engineer minded friend. Think I have to call for his assistance.

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PESO: Redwing

[Jack Davis]

Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. Never 
completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more shine in 
their reflections.
I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and third 
progressively less detailed.
The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.

Comments?

Jack

K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
 
 
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Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Don Guthrie]

Jack & Dan Thanks for looking & your nice comments.

I could not afford the heat or taxes. The Smeltzer mansion was owned by 
the sole heir of one of the city's founding fathers and the owner of the 
1st gypsum mine in the area. All of her money was left to a trust to 
maintain the house. It is used for small gatherings. My niece was was 
the 1st to have her wedding & reception in the home. By the way Ann 
Smeltzer loved the bluebells and the caretakers let them go wild & will 
not mow them while in bloom.

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So it is in defiance of winter that I post these Spring photos taken in the
days before the storm. I used several lenses and a couple of cameras here.
One or two of the "daffy" pix may have been taken with my OLY - purists may
avert their eyes. Join me in my efforts to start Spring. DIE WINTER DIE!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633389393387/

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Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Fist, in the event that's your housenice place!
You pay attention and know what you're up to.
Nice work, Don.

Jack


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What's the matter, haven't you guys heard that it is spring?

Lovely images of some very nice flowers.

Is that building with the large columns you home or the gardener's cottage?

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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Bob W]

Nobody would want to copy it.

On 3 May 2013, at 19:11, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> I want to copyright my hat.
> 
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Re: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[Alan C]

Very observant, Collin! Took me a while to twig.

Alan C

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Whatever the feline's name, the image reminds me that ...
"The galaxy is on Orion's belt"


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Re: No character like Pentax character

[Bob W]

I've no idea who she is, but if that's her singing - what a voice. And I love 
what James Baldwin says about hitting the jackpot.

B

On 3 May 2013, at 18:58, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> Very nice words for our fave old glass ...
> 
> "[the film was shot] through the vintage Super-Takumar era screwmount
> Pentax lens kit I assembled. Ain’t no lens like a Pentax lens (pay
> attention to the color and look of the footage with books, this glass
> is from the sixties or seventies depending and you can taste that,
> this is not lost on people).
> 
> And hell yes on the lens flares, so perfect. A $10,000 Cooke Panchero
> or ARRI Master Prime will never have as much character."
> 
> http://www.borkded.com/post/42341120825/b2promedia-the-importance-of-reading-starring
> 
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Mark Roberts]

John Sessoms wrote:

>They don't have to "settle" with you. Under the law, all they have to do
>is stop using your photo ... IF YOU CAN PROVE IT'S YOURS.

This is not true. If you've registered your copyright they are liable
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

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-Original Message-
>From: John Sessoms 
>Subject: Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers
>
>From: Walt
>> On 5/2/2013 4:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> Stan Halpin wrote:
>>>
 Interesting. The breathless hysteria of the blog was a bit off-putting
>>> That's an understatement. This law applies to "orphan works", works
>>> whose creator cannot be found. Removing metadata is unethical for
>>> online providers and stupid for photographers but it's hardly the only
>>> way to find the creator of a work. In most cases it will only take
>>> about a minute of searching on tineye.com or similar site to shoot
>>> down most claims of "I couldn't find him".
>>>
>>> That said, my policies are:
>>>
>>> * Don't ever upload (or link to - read your TOS!) anything larger than
>>> a thumbnail to any free hosting/sharing site.
>>>
>>> * Don't put any photo online that isn't labeled with proper metadata
>>> and a visible watermark.
>>>
>>> * Don't bitch about how people should respect your copyright unless
>>> *you* respect your copyright enough to *register* it with the
>>> appropriate agency (in the U.S. it's www.copyright.gov)
>>>
>> The process of registering copyrights for photos is an abominably
>> antiquated pain in the ass. If there are any agencies in the US federal
>> government that needs reform -- and there are plenty -- the Copyright
>> office is one of them.
>>
>> I mean, how the hell does one register a copyright on all their images
>> in an era when people take hundreds at a time?
>>
>> Mark, when you're done writing your book and finished with the annual, I
>> think you should craft copyright reform legislation -- because you'll be
>> needing something to do, and I don't know how.
>>
>
>ASMP has had simplified copyright reform legislation for photography 
>before Congress for several years now. I don't know why Congress won't 
>act on it.

Politics, lobbyists, the usual.


>... although I have my suspicions..


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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Steve Cottrell]

I want to copyright my hat.

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Re: OT How many of these cameras have owned/own?

[Steve Cottrell]

Isn't that a shot of Bill Robb's closet?

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Re: GESO: Vietnam up-close (but mostly from the air)

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/5/13, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I scanned some images for a friend last weekend.  He'd picked out a
>small stack of Kodachromes from when he was a helicopter pilot during
>the Vietnam war.
>
>Some interesting shots in there.  Nothing earth-shatteringly amazing,
>but it's interesting to see it from the perspective of someone who
>wasn't "the press" if you know what I mean.
>
>Beautiful looking countryside!
>
>http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/steve_vietnam_2/

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Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Daniel J. Matyola]

What's the matter, haven't you guys heard that it is spring?

Lovely images of some very nice flowers.

Is that building with the large columns you home or the gardener's cottage?

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Yesterday we got 6 inches of very wet snow. In my yard it collapsed the roof
> on my gazebo, uprooted a 40 yr old evergreen and broke a large branch which
> fell on the neighbor's fence. Plus breaking several limbs on other trees and
> my lilac bush. Other than that it was a fine Spring day with a high of 39.
> This AM it is lightly snowing again.
>
> So it is in defiance of winter that I post these Spring photos taken in the
> days before the storm. I used several lenses and a couple of cameras here.
> One or two of the "daffy" pix may have been taken with my OLY - purists may
> avert their eyes. Join me in my efforts to start Spring. DIE WINTER DIE!
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633389393387/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8703243170/in/set-72157633389393387/lightbox/
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Re: Adaptor stuck at an adaptall lens

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/5/13, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Do you know a fix for this?
>I've googled for a solution, but haven't found any relevant info.

If the adaptor/lens combo is not mounted and or stuck on a camera, it
should be possible to remove the adaptor from the rear of the lens - but
it may only be possible to do this by destroying the adaptor.

The key is finding where the 'sticking point' is. If you can borrow or
acquire another adaptor, then it should be possible to look at the
mating surface, along with the rear of a different lens and compare
possible surface topography that would indicate where the problem lays,
and what to do about it.

If you're not 'engineer minded' then perhaps get an engineer to have a
look at the above objects - he/she will be able to figure it all out and
yes - it may well be that a carefully placed Dremel cut or cuts could be
the answer.

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No character like Pentax character

[Bruce Walker]

Very nice words for our fave old glass ...

"[the film was shot] through the vintage Super-Takumar era screwmount
Pentax lens kit I assembled. Ain’t no lens like a Pentax lens (pay
attention to the color and look of the footage with books, this glass
is from the sixties or seventies depending and you can taste that,
this is not lost on people).

And hell yes on the lens flares, so perfect. A $10,000 Cooke Panchero
or ARRI Master Prime will never have as much character."

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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Bob W]

That may be the case in the US, but not in the UK.

B

On 3 May 2013, at 15:46, John Sessoms  wrote:

> They don't have to "settle" with you. Under the law, all they have to do
> is stop using your photo ... IF YOU CAN PROVE IT'S YOURS.
> 
> They don't have to compensate you. They just have to find a new sucker
> to steal from.
> 
> From: "Bob W"
>> It's an interesting situation. As Stan says, thinking about who wins is
>> quite an enlightening exercise. Who would want a law like this? Somebody
>> must do, otherwise we wouldn't be getting it, so what do they stand to
>> gain?
>> 
>> So if, say, an unscrupulous international picture agency simply starting
>> trawling and downloading photos and making money from them, and you as a
>> photographer happened to find out about it, what can you do? The burden
>> of proof is on you to show that they have not undertaken an adequate
>> search for the copyright holder. Chances are they would just settle with
>> you for whatever they earned from the pictures, and refrain from using
>> them again. The only thing that might prevent said megacorp would
>> possibly be the threat of a class action suit from a large group of
>> photographers.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling
>>> Sent: 02 May 2013 16:19
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers
>>> 
>>> Even large corporations couldn't be happy with this, download
>>> a copyrighted work with full information imbedded, upload to
>>> face book, download it again and it's laundered.  The only
>>> protected works are those so well known that their provenance
>>> is indisputable.
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/2013 8:52 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:
 Interesting. The breathless hysteria of the blog was a bit
>>> off-putting, but he did seem to make a few good points. He
>>> focused on who loses under the legislation discussed (i.e.,
>>> those who expect to be paid for their photographs but
>>> nonetheless distribute their work via social media). The more
>>> pertinent question might be who gains? It seems that Murdoch
>>> and his ilk must be be overjoyed that they will receive an
>>> open invitation to piracy. Instead of blathering about "The
>>> Government" and "The Act" as though these abstractions were
>>> living breathing people, he should be thinking about the
>>> legislators and their corporate partners.
 
 stan
 
 On May 2, 2013, at 1:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
 
>>> http://photothisandthat.co.uk/2013/04/29/is-the-uk-government-trying-
> to-kill-of-photographers/
> 
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Re: Semi-OT: I saw an ad for ...

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Since Asahi means Morning Sun, i.e, Rising Sun, it is a very popular
company and brand name in Japan.

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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: "Collin Brendemuehl"
>
>>> Ashai Glass Company.
>>
>>
>> My 91 Camry had Asahi glass.  Not the same company.
>
>
> I think this one may have been. I'm pretty sure that at one time Pentax had
> their own glass company to manufacture their lens blanks.
>
> Probably got spun off by Hoya.
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Re: PESO: Portrait of Sugar

[Walt]

I got down on the animal's level the day before with the frog -- which 
left me with a fairly tender ribcage since I had to lie on my belly in a 
bunch of rocks.


It still feels like I went a couple of rounds with a good body-puncher.


On 5/3/2013 10:51 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
Try tranquilizer darts ... work fairly well with uncooperative, 
self-absorbed fashion models, so they ought to work for this.


I'm not a big fan of shooting down on animals. You really should get 
down to the animal's level. I can still do that, although getting back 
up is becoming problematic.


Also, another reason why I like protective filters on my lenses.


From: Walt

This is Sugar, one of the most difficult subjects I've ever tried to
shoot. She's as uncooperative as any self-absorbed fashion model that
ever lived. But, I finally got a decent shot of her.

The main reason I'm posting it, though, is to rave about the sharpness
of the F 50/1.7 even at maximum aperture.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8703525938/
K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 200, 1/2000 sec.

Why, yes, I am quite happy with this lens.





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Re: Semi-OT: I saw an ad for ...

[John Sessoms]

From: "Collin Brendemuehl"

Ashai Glass Company.


My 91 Camry had Asahi glass.  Not the same company.


I think this one may have been. I'm pretty sure that at one time Pentax 
had their own glass company to manufacture their lens blanks.


Probably got spun off by Hoya.

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Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Jack Davis]

Fist, in the event that's your housenice place!
You pay attention and know what you're up to. 
Nice work, Don.

Jack


- Original Message -
From: Don Guthrie 
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 8:36 AM
Subject: Geso My Spring Flowers

Yesterday we got 6 inches of very wet snow. In my yard it collapsed the roof on 
my gazebo, uprooted a 40 yr old evergreen and broke a large branch which fell 
on the neighbor's fence. Plus breaking several limbs on other trees and my 
lilac bush. Other than that it was a fine Spring day with a high of 39. This AM 
it is lightly snowing again.

So it is in defiance of winter that I post these Spring photos taken in the 
days before the storm. I used several lenses and a couple of cameras here. One 
or two of the "daffy" pix may have been taken with my OLY - purists may avert 
their eyes. Join me in my efforts to start Spring. DIE WINTER DIE!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633389393387/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8703243170/in/set-72157633389393387/lightbox/


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PESO: Portrait of Sugar

[John Sessoms]

Try tranquilizer darts ... work fairly well with uncooperative, 
self-absorbed fashion models, so they ought to work for this.


I'm not a big fan of shooting down on animals. You really should get 
down to the animal's level. I can still do that, although getting back 
up is becoming problematic.


Also, another reason why I like protective filters on my lenses.


From: Walt

This is Sugar, one of the most difficult subjects I've ever tried to
shoot. She's as uncooperative as any self-absorbed fashion model that
ever lived. But, I finally got a decent shot of her.

The main reason I'm posting it, though, is to rave about the sharpness
of the F 50/1.7 even at maximum aperture.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8703525938/
K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 200, 1/2000 sec.

Why, yes, I am quite happy with this lens.


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Re:GESO - Spring Wildflowers

[Don Guthrie]

Lovely and needed for those of us still in winter throes. The K-01 
certainly has its uses.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 00:02:44 -0400
From: Mark C
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Subject: GESO - Spring Wildflowers
Message-ID:<518336e4.8000...@charter.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I was late to the party this year and missed the hepatica, blood root,
and other early species; but managed to get a few trillium, spring
beauty, dutchman's britches and false rue anemone today:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2013/IMGP1417

I carried my K-5 but used the K-01 exclusively - I and came out of the
woods much less muddy than usual since I did not not have to get down to
put by eye to finder. Unless I manage to get out tomorrow (unlikely)
this will be my only wildflower venture for this spring.

C&C welcomed.

Mark




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Re: Semi-OT: I saw an ad for ...

[Darren Addy]

Another Asahi label to ease the pain as you wait for new camera
models: 
http://www.ntcltdusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/alcohol_5_AsahiBeer.jpg

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
>> Ashai Glass Company.
>
> My 91 Camry had Asahi glass.  Not the same company.
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Geso My Spring Flowers

[Don Guthrie]

Yesterday we got 6 inches of very wet snow. In my yard it collapsed the 
roof on my gazebo, uprooted a 40 yr old evergreen and broke a large 
branch which fell on the neighbor's fence. Plus breaking several limbs 
on other trees and my lilac bush. Other than that it was a fine Spring 
day with a high of 39. This AM it is lightly snowing again.


So it is in defiance of winter that I post these Spring photos taken in 
the days before the storm. I used several lenses and a couple of cameras 
here. One or two of the "daffy" pix may have been taken with my OLY - 
purists may avert their eyes. Join me in my efforts to start Spring. DIE 
WINTER DIE!


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633389393387/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8703243170/in/set-72157633389393387/lightbox/


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Re: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Whatever the feline's name, the image reminds me that ...
"The galaxy is on Orion's belt"


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Re: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[Bruce Walker]

Handsome cat, Alan.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> One of our cats basking in the early morning sun. He is a domesticated feral
> displaying the dominant African Wild Cat fur colouring. Unfortunately, this
> accomplished hunter terrorizes the garden birds & lizards.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8703175131/in/photostream/lightbox/
>
> K110   FA 100-300 @100  F8  1/1250  ISO400
>
> Alan C
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts

Walt wrote:


I mean, how the hell does one register a copyright on all their images
in an era when people take hundreds at a time?


Surely that's not a serious question? The answer is that you put them
all in a zip file and upload them all at once. I do several thousand
per registration. It's simple, easy and costs 35 bucks.


You do have to separate out the published images from the unpublished ones.

http://asmp.org/content/registration-counts

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Re: Semi-OT: I saw an ad for ...

[Collin Brendemuehl]

> Ashai Glass Company.

My 91 Camry had Asahi glass.  Not the same company.


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#1 Pentax-A 50/2.8 macro - $150
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

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From: Walt

On 5/2/2013 4:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Stan Halpin wrote:


Interesting. The breathless hysteria of the blog was a bit off-putting

That's an understatement. This law applies to "orphan works", works
whose creator cannot be found. Removing metadata is unethical for
online providers and stupid for photographers but it's hardly the only
way to find the creator of a work. In most cases it will only take
about a minute of searching on tineye.com or similar site to shoot
down most claims of "I couldn't find him".

That said, my policies are:

* Don't ever upload (or link to - read your TOS!) anything larger than
a thumbnail to any free hosting/sharing site.

* Don't put any photo online that isn't labeled with proper metadata
and a visible watermark.

* Don't bitch about how people should respect your copyright unless
*you* respect your copyright enough to *register* it with the
appropriate agency (in the U.S. it's www.copyright.gov)


The process of registering copyrights for photos is an abominably
antiquated pain in the ass. If there are any agencies in the US federal
government that needs reform -- and there are plenty -- the Copyright
office is one of them.

I mean, how the hell does one register a copyright on all their images
in an era when people take hundreds at a time?

Mark, when you're done writing your book and finished with the annual, I
think you should craft copyright reform legislation -- because you'll be
needing something to do, and I don't know how.



ASMP has had simplified copyright reform legislation for photography 
before Congress for several years now. I don't know why Congress won't 
act on it.


... although I have my suspicions.

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Semi-OT: I saw an ad for ...

[John Sessoms]

Ashai Glass Company.

It was touting their scratch-proof glass for smartphones & such. Someone 
left a copy of the February 2013 Fortune Magazine in the waiting room at 
the pharmacy over at the VA Hospital in Durham.


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Re: Telephoto spotting scope?

[Aahz Maruch]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> I don't know if I can find the adapter I have:
> 
> http://www.photosolve.com/main/product/xtendasight/

Thanks!  I was making an Amazon order, anyway, so I got the daisy sight
there plus this.  This one seems to get better reviews than the adapter
on B&H, and it's in stock.  Your assistance was much appreciated (I had
found out about dot sights as opposed to scopes, but hadn't found out
about daisy sights).

> http://gadget.brando.com/wildlife-photography-with-tactical-four-reticle-sight_p1341c73d3.html

This was tempting as a package deal, but no way I'm gonna order something
from Hong Kong.

> If you ask nicely, you can borrow mine.

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RE: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[John Sessoms]

They don't have to "settle" with you. Under the law, all they have to do
is stop using your photo ... IF YOU CAN PROVE IT'S YOURS.

They don't have to compensate you. They just have to find a new sucker
to steal from.

From: "Bob W"

It's an interesting situation. As Stan says, thinking about who wins is
quite an enlightening exercise. Who would want a law like this? Somebody
must do, otherwise we wouldn't be getting it, so what do they stand to
gain?

So if, say, an unscrupulous international picture agency simply starting
trawling and downloading photos and making money from them, and you as a
photographer happened to find out about it, what can you do? The burden
of proof is on you to show that they have not undertaken an adequate
search for the copyright holder. Chances are they would just settle with
you for whatever they earned from the pictures, and refrain from using
them again. The only thing that might prevent said megacorp would
possibly be the threat of a class action suit from a large group of
photographers.

B


-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling
Sent: 02 May 2013 16:19
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Even large corporations couldn't be happy with this, download
a copyrighted work with full information imbedded, upload to
face book, download it again and it's laundered.  The only
protected works are those so well known that their provenance
is indisputable.

On 5/2/2013 8:52 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Interesting. The breathless hysteria of the blog was a bit

off-putting, but he did seem to make a few good points. He
focused on who loses under the legislation discussed (i.e.,
those who expect to be paid for their photographs but
nonetheless distribute their work via social media). The more
pertinent question might be who gains? It seems that Murdoch
and his ilk must be be overjoyed that they will receive an
open invitation to piracy. Instead of blathering about "The
Government" and "The Act" as though these abstractions were
living breathing people, he should be thinking about the
legislators and their corporate partners.


stan

On May 2, 2013, at 1:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:




http://photothisandthat.co.uk/2013/04/29/is-the-uk-government-trying-

to-kill-of-photographers/

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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[John Sessoms]

The large corporations already pay their lawyers by the year. Won't cost 
'em a penny extra to use the DMCA to screw you over.



Even large corporations couldn't be happy with this, download a
copyrighted work with full information imbedded, upload to face book,
download it again and it's laundered. The only protected works are
those so well known that their provenance is indisputable.

On 5/2/2013 8:52 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Interesting. The breathless hysteria of the blog was a bit off-putting,
but he did seem to make a few good points. He focused on who loses under
the legislation discussed (i.e., those who expect to be paid for their
photographs but nonetheless distribute their work via social media). The
more pertinent question might be who gains? It seems that Murdoch and his
ilk must be be overjoyed that they will receive an open invitation to piracy.
Instead of blathering about "The Government" and "The Act" as though these
abstractions were living breathing people, he should be thinking about the
legislators and their corporate partners.

stan

On May 2, 2013, at 1:34 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:


http://photothisandthat.co.uk/2013/04/29/is-the-uk-government-trying-to-kill-of-photographers/

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Re: OT 4 Sisters Take Their Photo Every Year For 36 Years

[John Sessoms]

UPDATE: Unfortunately, photographer’s representative requested to remove 
the pictures. Luckily, you can find them in the archives of New York’s 
Museum of Modern art, Fraenkel Gallery or do a Google search. The Brown 
Sisters by Nicholas Nixon book is also available on Amazon.


I struggled with it for quite a while trying to figure out what malware 
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noticing the fine print.


From: Charles Robinson

On May 2, 2013, at 03:04 , Rob Studdert  wrote:

http://www.boredpanda.com/4-sisters-take-photo-every-year-for-36-years/



Fantastic!  Thanks for sharing that, Rob!

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Re: PESO: Spring in Minnesota

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Quite effective image.

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> One of the more difficult shots to take is one that makes it look like it is 
> really snowing.
>
> This seems to capture the essence:
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__0087.jpg
>
> Very disappointing.
>
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Re: GESO: Vietnam up-close (but mostly from the air)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Charles!
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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> On May 2, 2013, at 15:38 , Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
>> Thanks.  That was a few years after my time, but perhaps a few of
>> those impact craters might still have been mine.
>>
>> Some of my picture taken there in 1966-1967 are on the Asahi Optical
>> Historical Club site:
>>
>> http://www.aohc.it/picte.htm
>>
>
> Very cool, Dan!
>
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Re: GESO - Spring Wildflowers

[Mark C]

Thanks, Paul. I was surprised to see how far along the trillium was, 
given how cold things have been.


Mark

On 5/3/2013 7:00 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Very nice. My trillium is still a day or two away from blooming


On May 3, 2013, at 12:02 AM, Mark C  wrote:


I was late to the party this year and missed the hepatica, blood root, and 
other early species; but managed to get a few trillium, spring beauty, 
dutchman's britches and false rue anemone today:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2013/IMGP1417

I carried my K-5 but used the K-01 exclusively - I and came out of the woods 
much less muddy than usual since I did not not have to get down to put by eye 
to finder. Unless I manage to get out tomorrow (unlikely) this will be my only 
wildflower venture for this spring.

C&C welcomed.

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Re: GESO - Spring Wildflowers

[Mark C]

Thanks, Dan!

Thanks also for pointing out the problem with the perma link - correct 
link it:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/spring-wildflowers-2013

Mark


On 5/3/2013 9:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Nice work!

for the Permalink, however, I received "Page not found"

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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Mark C  wrote:

I was late to the party this year and missed the hepatica, blood root, and
other early species; but managed to get a few trillium, spring beauty,
dutchman's britches and false rue anemone today:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/

Permalink:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2013/IMGP1417

I carried my K-5 but used the K-01 exclusively - I and came out of the woods
much less muddy than usual since I did not not have to get down to put by
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my only wildflower venture for this spring.

C&C welcomed.

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PESO: Spring in Minnesota

[Charles Robinson]

One of the more difficult shots to take is one that makes it look like it is 
really snowing.

This seems to capture the essence:

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/K5__0087.jpg

Very disappointing.  

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Re: GESO: Vietnam up-close (but mostly from the air)

[Charles Robinson]

On May 2, 2013, at 15:38 , Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> Thanks.  That was a few years after my time, but perhaps a few of
> those impact craters might still have been mine.
> 
> Some of my picture taken there in 1966-1967 are on the Asahi Optical
> Historical Club site:
> 
> http://www.aohc.it/picte.htm
> 

Very cool, Dan!

 -Charles

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Re: GESO: Daffodil Gallery

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Mark!

Now all I have to do is classify each image by the 12 daffodil types
and the color patterns (from outside to inside), then try to remember
the proper name for each variety.  

Dan
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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Field guide to daffodils! Very nice collection.
>
>
> On 4/28/2013 11:53 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> In the part of New Jersey where I live, we are overrun with deer.
>> They eat all the flowers and shrubs that are not protected by fencing
>> or netting.  They especially lot to eat tulips and roses, but they eat
>> almost anything else as well.
>>
>> All daffodils contain a bitter poison called lycorine.  Deer therefore
>> leave them alone.  As a result, for the past several years, I have
>> planted daffodils in my yard, to create spring color that will not
>> become deer fodder.
>>
>> This gallery illustrates most of the daffodils I could locate in the
>> yard this week.  A few varieties are already past bloom, while a few
>> others are late bloomers, and are not here, but this gives a good idea
>> of what is out there at the present time.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1052605
>> Comments are invited.
>>
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Re: GESO - Spring Wildflowers

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice work!

for the Permalink, however, I received "Page not found"

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> I was late to the party this year and missed the hepatica, blood root, and
> other early species; but managed to get a few trillium, spring beauty,
> dutchman's britches and false rue anemone today:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/
>
> Permalink:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2013/IMGP1417
>
> I carried my K-5 but used the K-01 exclusively - I and came out of the woods
> much less muddy than usual since I did not not have to get down to put by
> eye to finder. Unless I manage to get out tomorrow (unlikely) this will be
> my only wildflower venture for this spring.
>
> C&C welcomed.
>
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Re: GESO: Standard Spring Stuff

[Darren Addy]

Thanks Mark. The flower was taken at a local nursery/greenhouse and I
didn't note the species, but I think it is some kind of Zinnia. (More
knowledgeable flower people, feel free to correct me).

I'm learning that one really needs to apply a bit of strategy to
shooting birds outdoors on sunny days. The best shots are with the sun
coming over your shoulder, fully lighting your subject. Thus, if
taking a birding walk in the woods in the early morning it would be
best to choose a path from East to West and in the late afternoon the
opposite. These Cardinal shots, unfortunately, are side lit and work
OK if the cardinal was facing the sun, but not so well when his head
was in shadow. I dislike fill flash outdoors (think it looks
unnatural) but that would be one obvious solution.

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> The flower is great - do you know what it is?  I like cardinal picking seeds
> off the vine as well.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 4/30/2013 4:01 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> A small set mostly for bird lovers... a Cardinal and a pair of Wood
>> Ducks taken with the Bigma.
>> I boosted the ISO to 800 even though it was a sunny day, to get higher
>> shutter speeds with the 500mm. But that's not all! Call now and you'll
>> also receive a flower shot with my first dabbling with the Tokina AT-X
>> 90mm f2.5 Macro (PK/A) - at no additonal charge!
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157633388620064/
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Re: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[Jack Davis]

What a solid crisp image. Impressive file.

Jack



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Subject: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads


One of our cats basking in the early morning sun. He is a domesticated feral
displaying the dominant African Wild Cat fur colouring. Unfortunately, this
accomplished hunter terrorizes the garden birds & lizards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8703175131/in/photostream/lightbox/

K110   FA 100-300 @100  F8  1/1250  ISO400

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Re: OT How many of these cameras have owned/own?

[Paul Stenquist]

Leica III, Crown Graphic, Nikon SP, Pentax Auto 110, Pentax 6x7 and iPhone 5. 


On May 3, 2013, at 12:51 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:

> On 3 May 2013 04:20, steve harley  wrote:
>> on 2013-05-02 12:17 Rob Studdert wrote
>> 
>>> on 2013-05-02 2:09 Rob Studdert wrote
 
 http://popchartlab.com/products/a-visual-compendium-of-cameras
>>> 
>>> 
>>> one, Panasonic DMC-LX3 (gift to my partner a few years ago, but we still
>>> have
>>> and both use it)
>> 
>> 
>> um, that was from me, not from Rob!
>> 
>> freaky, a Thunderbird extension i've used for years (Virtual Identity)
>> somehow decided to forge my From and Reply To headers
> 
> LOL, I was sure I hadn't written that, good trick though :)
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Re: GESO - Spring Wildflowers

[Paul Stenquist]

Very nice. My trillium is still a day or two away from blooming


On May 3, 2013, at 12:02 AM, Mark C  wrote:

> I was late to the party this year and missed the hepatica, blood root, and 
> other early species; but managed to get a few trillium, spring beauty, 
> dutchman's britches and false rue anemone today:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/
> 
> Permalink:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/media/blogs/calarti/2013/IMGP1417
> 
> I carried my K-5 but used the K-01 exclusively - I and came out of the woods 
> much less muddy than usual since I did not not have to get down to put by eye 
> to finder. Unless I manage to get out tomorrow (unlikely) this will be my 
> only wildflower venture for this spring.
> 
> C&C welcomed.
> 
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Re: PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[David Mann]

On May 3, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Alan C  wrote:

> One of our cats basking in the early morning sun. He is a domesticated feral
> displaying the dominant African Wild Cat fur colouring. Unfortunately, this
> accomplished hunter terrorizes the garden birds & lizards.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8703175131/in/photostream/lightbox/

Send him over here.  We have a rodent in our roof space that needs catching.

Cheers,
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Rob Studdert]

On 3 May 2013 17:10, Tim Bray  wrote:
> I was moved to write at length on this: http://goo.gl/ue8ZE - and got
> some useful comments.
>
> Summary: It probably isn’t that bad for photographers; but
> social-media sites should stop stripping Exif, at least the
> attribution fields.

I limit my picture uploads to social media site for this very reason,
there is no excuse for them stripping the author/copyright metadata as
its data usage is miniscule compared with the smallest usable image
file.

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PESO: Tiger in the Bromeliads

[Alan C]

One of our cats basking in the early morning sun. He is a domesticated feral
displaying the dominant African Wild Cat fur colouring. Unfortunately, this
accomplished hunter terrorizes the garden birds & lizards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8703175131/in/photostream/lightbox/

K110   FA 100-300 @100  F8  1/1250  ISO400

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Re: Zarias on brand choice

[Tim Bray]

Oh yeah, and if you do watch “It Might get Loud”, make sure to queue
up the extras and outtakes, too, that’s where some of the best music
is.  I wrote about this when it came out:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/01/23/It-Might-Get-Loud

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Parting shot: "Just make sure you edit on a Mac."  Har! Love it.
>
> But really, if you are a music fan you owe it to yourself to watch the
> entire doc "It Might Get Loud". It really gave me a renewed
> appreciation of these players to see them interact and jam together.
> It should be required viewing by any kids who are toying with an
> instrument thinking about going further. It's a music feel-good piece.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1229360
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>> With links to some pretty good axe video:
>> http://zarias.tumblr.com/post/49362178850/ive-read-you-say-somewhere-that-it-doesnt-really
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Tim Bray]

I was moved to write at length on this: http://goo.gl/ue8ZE - and got
some useful comments.

Summary: It probably isn’t that bad for photographers; but
social-media sites should stop stripping Exif, at least the
attribution fields.

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> http://photothisandthat.co.uk/2013/04/29/is-the-uk-government-trying-to-kill-of-photographers/
>
> Cheers,
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