Re: PAW174 - Dam

[Steve Cottrell]

On 5/5/13, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>Pentax K-5, FA77,  f/10, 1/80s, ISO100

No porn please.

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Re: PAW174 - Dam

[Thomas Bohn]

2013/5/6 knarftheria...@gmail.com :
> Whatever it is.

It looks like water flooding over a dam.

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DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)? 

I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to 
prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?

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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Rob Studdert]

I haven't owned the lens but I did own the Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm
f/3.5-5.6 AL WR which wasn't too impressive. I sold it not long after
I purchased it as I was never pleased with the resultant image
quality. The Photozone review of the lens accords with my experience
and their review of the DA 18-135 is somewhat worse than that again so
I wouldn't expect too much compared to primes.

On 6 May 2013 20:59, Ralf R. Radermacher  wrote:
> What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
> better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?
>
> I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
> crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
> prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?
>
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Re: GESO Lichenscapes

[Rob Studdert]

Thanks Toine, Derby and Bruce, I wish that I had more time as there
were lots more interesting forms to shoot but as it was I was playing
a game of catch up the whole walk. Apparently it's not wise to eat the
yellow lichens Derby :) Cheers, Rob

On 6 May 2013 00:40, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> These are really great, Rob. The first five alone printed up would
> make a fabulous small exhibition.
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>> Hi Team
>>
>> Some pics from a vacation bush walk:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/photos/100717932944223796708/albums/5873977800285686929?banner=pwa&authkey=CPH32cvg0rKR8wE
>>
>> All but the first image captured using the 35LTD Macro, hand held.
>>
>> Cheers,
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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[P.J. Alling]

I did a bit of research a while ago on 18-135mm lenses and the general 
consensus of results was that none were particularly good, they are 
after all, in APS-C format, what the 28-200mm lens is to 35mm format.  
The best was the Leica D Vario-Elmar 14-150mm which isn't really in the 
same league, since it's more like a 28-300 on a 35mm system, but if 
there was any reason to the a 43 system this is it.  The next best is 
Nikon's offering none of the of the other 18-135 lenses by /any/ 
manufacture seemed to be worth the money for even a used copy.  I did 
the research for a friend who wasn't happy with the results of her Canon 
kit and wanted a convenient zoom for travel photography with good 
results.  I would really have liked to recommend that she get Pentax but 
based on her lens criteria I couldn't, Pentax just didn't have the 
goods.  So she got a used lightly used D90 from KEH and a Nikon 18-135 
which was a huge improvement over the Canon and the lenses she had been 
using up to that point.


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What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?

I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?

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Re: Annsan Update

[Christine Aguila]

Great news!  Speedy recovery, Ann!  Cheers, Christine


On May 4, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> She emailed me after surgery. All went well and she's on the mend.
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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[Mark Roberts]

John Sessoms wrote:

>I still haven't found one that will fix the discrepancy it leaves between
>"Date Created" & "Date File Modified".

EXIF Pilot will change either or both. So will Exifeditor.
 
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Re: PESO Small World

[Bruce Walker]

Glad you like it, Frank. Thanks!

On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:24 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> Beautiful.
>
> Lovely light, beautiful bokeh.
>
> Overall terrific photo.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
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>
> Don's huge carpets of bluebells has prompted me to post a little
> something from yesterday.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8709138742/lightbox/
> http://flic.kr/p/egABww
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> K20D, DA*55/1.4@2.2, 1/200th, ISO 200, handheld.
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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Toine]

I have one. A few samples:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/249-light-it-up-blue
http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow

Quality is good to very good. It's not a prime. The corners are not
the best. As a walk around lens this lens is perfect. Nice colors,
pleasant bokeh, very quiet autofocus, WR etc. CA distortion and
vignetting is very visible but LR removes it 100%.

My only complaint is it doesn't have a zoom lock and it extends while walking.


Toine


On 6 May 2013 12:59, Ralf R. Radermacher  wrote:
> What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
> better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?
>
> I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
> crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
> prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?
>
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OT: The "Leica Freedom Train

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I read a lot of history, and have supported the Wallenberg
Foundation's programs in this area for years, but I had never heard
this story:

http://zonezero.com/magazine/articles/leica/index.html

Dan Matyola
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Re: First PESO in a long while

[David J Brooks]

Beautiful

Dve

On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> From a hike in February. We went half way up Mount Washington.
> Snowshoes were mandatory - this was pretty tough. As you can see, it
> was socked in and there wasn't much of a view. The mountain extends
> upward a far beyond what is visible in this shot.
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> http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7dd00728-30.htm
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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I also have one, and concur that it is a good walk-around lens and
great for travel, when it is difficult to carry around and keep
changing several lenses.

Dan

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On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Toine  wrote:
> I have one. A few samples:
>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/249-light-it-up-blue
> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow
>
> Quality is good to very good. It's not a prime. The corners are not
> the best. As a walk around lens this lens is perfect. Nice colors,
> pleasant bokeh, very quiet autofocus, WR etc. CA distortion and
> vignetting is very visible but LR removes it 100%.
>
> My only complaint is it doesn't have a zoom lock and it extends while walking.
>
>
> Toine
>
>
> On 6 May 2013 12:59, Ralf R. Radermacher  wrote:
>> What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
>> better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?
>>
>> I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
>> crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
>> prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?
>>
>> Ralf
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PESO - Sunday in Fontenelle Forest - 1970

[George Sinos]

This one probably should have been called "Disaster Averted" or "If a
camera falls in the forest..." or something like that.



It could have been an expensive day for my boss.

GS


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PESO - Bokehlishious

[Tim Øsleby]

Nothing artisitic, but IMO a pleasant testshot from another Adaptall
lens, the 180/2,5
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2013/05/bokehlishious.html

(And this reminds me that I should have shared some pictures of my
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Qeustion for mirrorless shooters, using both eyes?

[Larry Colen]

If you are using a mirrorless camera for photographing
action, do you need to use both eyes?  One in the view
finder for framing and focusing, and the other to watch
the action and know when to press the shutter?

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Re: Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Don Guthrie]

Thanks Mark. The snow is almost gone and Spring may now resume its usual 
activities.


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Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 11:03:11 -0400
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Nice shots - hopefully the snow is melting. I like the massed blue
flowers in the the landscape.

Mark



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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Don Guthrie]

I just love the "look" of your bird photos. Do they print like they look 
on screen? I think white background shows the bird at its best.


pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

>Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. Never 
completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more shine in 
their reflections.
>I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and third 
progressively less detailed.
>The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
>
>Comments?
>
>Jack
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>K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
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>http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=691
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Re:Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Don Guthrie]

Thank you Christine, It sure felt good to be out & about unrestricted by 
coats & gloves. Everyone liked the low angles except my knees. Look 
forward to seeing your bluebell photos next year.


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Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 23:06:23 -0400
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Lots of nice shots there, Don.  I like the first wide-angle landscape,
and the other interesting perspectives you captured.  And the
bluebells -- those are plentiful around my neighborhood, too, and
every year I think about photographing a few nearby lawns... haven't
yet, though, and now they have gone past.  Next year...

C'mon spring!



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Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Don Guthrie]

Hey thanks for the look, Frank. I was able to take that one sitting on 
some steps, saving on my knees a little.


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Beautiful!

Really like this one:

  http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/valdon/8703249086/

The whole gallery is wonderful.

cheers,
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Re:PESO One that nearly got away

[Don Guthrie]

Bucolic at its best. Nice one.

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Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 11:00 PM
Subject: PESO One that nearly got away

Hi Team,

Following is one of the lost images that I recovered from my memory
card last week. Fortuantely the 200+ images that failed to copy were
not written over even though I had used and formatted (in-camera) the
card twice before I discovered the error.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGQ12379.jpg

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DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Bipin Gupta]

Hello Ralf & Rob,my copy of  the 18-135 WR is extremely sharp. It is
positively much much sharper than the 18-55 AL II or the WR lens - the
AL II came with my new K20D and I bought the WR brand new - both from
B&H.
Contrast and color on the 18-135 WR is far superior too.
I have attached links to casual photos taken at a recent get-to-gether
at our house - blown 100% from a 7 MB shot - with the Pentax 18-135 WR
on a K-5.
Note: I have used the primitive screen capture method after blowing up
the photo 100%. So may have lost a lot of sharpness
Also my laptop used for the screen capture is some (5) years old.
I can assure you photos will be much sharper and better on a test
subject with a tripod, which I plan to do tomorrow.
The K-5 with 18-135 WR was bought for CAD 1108 - CAD & USD almost at
par - from Henrys of Toronto this January.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y2u0e14w64tl8u1/iWyqtCPDeS

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/18-135%20WR

Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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subjectivity of evaluations of photos

[Igor Roshchin]

I thought I'd share this story.
Typically we all like our own photos more than other people do, but
here is the opposite case.

Yesterday, a friend of mine contacted me telling that she came across
one of my photos she hadn't seen before, and that she enjoyed it a lot:
http://42graphy.org/tango/dallas-2008-12-13/IMGP4909.html

In the followup exchange, she mentioned that it reminded her of these:
http://www.tangoartist.com/blogs/latest-news-from-dvora/291892-tango-calligraphy

The interesting thing is that I didn't quite remember about this photo
taken more than 4 years ago.  Even at that time, I was not sure about it. 
Obviously (?), it was not intended this way when I pressed the shutter 
button. But it had rather abstract look that prevented me from deleting the
photo.
I am still not quite convinced, but if somebody enjoys it, - why should I
object?

Igor


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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Zos Xavius]

I too looked at a ton of samples and didn't see one all that sharp at
all. Not even in the center. Its supposed to get decent figures in the
center, but the borders are pretty awful, and all the pictures I saw
confirmed that. If you did events and shot people, it would be more
than ok. For landscapes and walkaround its not for me. I finally got a
16-45 and like it very much. Especially compared to the 18-55 mk 1 I
also have. I generally prefer primes, but the 12-24 and 16-45 I have
are both decent lenses. The 18-135 just doesn't do it for me. Now I
just need a 55-300 to complete my walk around zoom kit.

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> I also have one, and concur that it is a good walk-around lens and
> great for travel, when it is difficult to carry around and keep
> changing several lenses.
>
> Dan
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Toine  wrote:
>> I have one. A few samples:
>>
>> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/249-light-it-up-blue
>> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/242-first-snow
>>
>> Quality is good to very good. It's not a prime. The corners are not
>> the best. As a walk around lens this lens is perfect. Nice colors,
>> pleasant bokeh, very quiet autofocus, WR etc. CA distortion and
>> vignetting is very visible but LR removes it 100%.
>>
>> My only complaint is it doesn't have a zoom lock and it extends while 
>> walking.
>>
>>
>> Toine
>>
>>
>> On 6 May 2013 12:59, Ralf R. Radermacher  wrote:
>>> What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
>>> better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?
>>>
>>> I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
>>> crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
>>> prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?
>>>
>>> Ralf
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Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Don Guthrie]

Bruce, after a cold rainy weekend we have returned to normal Spring & 
Sunshine. Pictures to follow. Thanks for your comments.



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Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 15:29:47 -0400
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I really love the huge carpet of bluebells, Don. Wonderful.

Sorry to hear about your late winter snow damage. I hope you're
getting some more summer-like temps now, like we are in Southern
Ontario.



>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633389393387/
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/8703243170/in/set-72157633389393387/lightbox/
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Re: PESO Small World

[Don Guthrie]

Killing me softly with your flowers. Sweet!

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Don's huge carpets of bluebells has prompted me to post a little
something from yesterday.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8709138742/lightbox/
http://flic.kr/p/egABww

K20D,DA*55/1.4@2.2, 1/200th, ISO 200, handheld.

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Re:PAW174 - Dam

[Don Guthrie]

Requires a long look. It would require even longer look if the title 
didn't give up the subject. In the end I like it.


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http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, FA77,  f/10, 1/80s, ISO100


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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?.

[Don Guthrie]

Actually I keep that lens on my K-5 as my default grab. I have not had 
it all that long but I will try to look up some photos I took using it 
and link to them.


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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 12:59:08 +0200
From:fotor...@gmx.de  (Ralf R. Radermacher)
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What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?

I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?

Ralf
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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

Bipin Gupta  wrote:

> my copy of  the 18-135 WR is extremely sharp

Hmmm...

Could it be that there are large quality variations among individual
lenses? There are a number of sources online pointing in that direction.
I've read of people exchanging theirs a few times before getting one
that was really decent.

Ralf

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for comments, Don. 
The look of any of my printed images is a result of hit and miss. If I really 
like an image, there is almost no limit to what I'm willing to spend in paper 
and ink to get a satisfacrory print.
I've completely given up even attempting B&W. They go to a commercial lab 
without hesitation.

Jack


- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: PESO: Redwing

I just love the "look" of your bird photos. Do they print like they look on 
screen? I think white background shows the bird at its best.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>> >Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
>> >Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit 
>> >more shine in their reflections.
>> >I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and 
>> >third progressively less detailed.
>> >The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
>> >
>> >Comments?
>> >
>> >Jack
>> >
>> >K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
>> >
>> >
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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Don Guthrie]

I see some here have posted some wonderful examples of 18-135. This is a 
set posted on flicker just walking around in snow.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632971414049/

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Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 12:59:08 +0200
From:fotor...@gmx.de  (Ralf R. Radermacher)
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What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?

I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?

Ralf



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Re: OT Is The UK Government Trying To Kill Off Photographers

[John Sessoms]

From: Mark Roberts

John Sessoms wrote:


I still haven't found one that will fix the discrepancy it leaves between
"Date Created" & "Date File Modified".


EXIF Pilot will change either or both. So will Exifeditor.


I'll look into it. According to the instructions ExifTool will do both. 
I just can't seem to get Adobe Bridge to see it for "Date File Modified".


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PESO - Visitors

[Paul Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17259932&size=lg

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Re: PESO - Visitors

[Walt]

On 5/6/2013 1:49 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17259932&size=lg


Nice, Paul!

One of my favorite birds, very well captured.

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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi Ralf, Rob,

On Mon, 6 May 2013 21:44:17 +1000 Rob Studdert wrote:
>
>I haven't owned the lens but I did own the Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm
>f/3.5-5.6 AL WR which wasn't too impressive. 

I my experience the 18-135 is WAY better than that one ...
(but I have not used the 18-55 very much)


>I sold it not long after
>I purchased it as I was never pleased with the resultant image
>quality. The Photozone review of the lens accords with my experience
>and their review of the DA 18-135 is somewhat worse than that again so
>I wouldn't expect too much compared to primes.

Most Pentax primes will be somewhat better than this 18-135 but it really is an 
incredible 
versatile lens with a huge zoom range, and focussing very fast compred to most 
other lenses.

It is my favourite 'walk about' lens on my K5.

On hollidays it is ogten that lens and the BIGMA (50-500) that I have with me, 
and 95 percent
of the shots will be from the 18-135.

Center sharpness is quite good, and so is contrast.
The corners are a bit behind, but not that much.


>On 6 May 2013 20:59, Ralf R. Radermacher  wrote:
>> What's the general verdict on the DA 18-135 mm lens? Is it noticeably
>> better than the two kit zooms (18-55 and 50-200)?

The 50--200 is not bead either, but it is certainly better than the 18-55 in my 
opinion.

Several of my PUG entries of the last few years have been shot with it.

>>
>> I'be had a look at Pentax' own gallery and haven't found a single really
>> crisp and sharp image. Then again, I'm used to
>> prime lenses mostly. Am I expecting too much?

Perhaps, as said a prime will probably be a bit better but then you have one 
focal length ...

Fotr me it is one of my best zooms (and I have almost a dozen :-)

Regards, JvW


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Re: PESO - Visitors

[Jack Davis]

Have fed niger to these things or several years. Last year and again this year, 
the number of "Gold" finches has been very low. However, during that time the 
"House" finch numbers have greatly increased. Weather and migration patterns I 
suppose. (?)
If I don't get a chance at the yellow ones in a shadow, exposure is difficult.
You did good, Paul.


Jack


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17259932&size=lg

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Re: PESO - Dis

[Toralf Lund]

On 5/5/13 22:50, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Interesting and compelling image.


Thanks.

- Toralf

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On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Toralf Lund  wrote:

Oslo on a hazy day: http://se.toralf.net/post/49708433031/dis

Thanks for looking.

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Re: PESO - Dis

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On 5/6/13 3:22, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Excellent!


Thank you. Glad you like it.

- Toralf

cheers,
frank

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Oslo on a hazy day: http://se.toralf.net/post/49708433031/dis

Thanks for looking.

- Toralf




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RE: PESO - Visitors

[Gerrit Visser]

I like the translucent tail feathers. A caption might read, is the food
better on the other side?

Gerrit

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Bruce Walker]

That's a damn fine redwing, Jack! Looks like an illustration in an Audubon book.

If it were me, I'd mess around with some post-processing to add some
shine. No doubt the tricky light conditions dulled his feathers on
you.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
> shine in their reflections.
> I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and 
> third progressively less detailed.
> The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
>
>
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Re: PESO - Sunday in Fontenelle Forest - 1970

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great Story!

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On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, George Sinos  wrote:
> This one probably should have been called "Disaster Averted" or "If a
> camera falls in the forest..." or something like that.
>
> 
>
> It could have been an expensive day for my boss.
>
> GS
>
>
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Re: PESO - Visitors

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice portrait of a handsome couple!

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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17259932&size=lg
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Re: subjectivity of evaluations of photos

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It makes me a bit dizzy when I look closely to try to figure it out.

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On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
>
> I thought I'd share this story.
> Typically we all like our own photos more than other people do, but
> here is the opposite case.
>
> Yesterday, a friend of mine contacted me telling that she came across
> one of my photos she hadn't seen before, and that she enjoyed it a lot:
> http://42graphy.org/tango/dallas-2008-12-13/IMGP4909.html
>
> In the followup exchange, she mentioned that it reminded her of these:
> http://www.tangoartist.com/blogs/latest-news-from-dvora/291892-tango-calligraphy
>
> The interesting thing is that I didn't quite remember about this photo
> taken more than 4 years ago.  Even at that time, I was not sure about it.
> Obviously (?), it was not intended this way when I pressed the shutter
> button. But it had rather abstract look that prevented me from deleting the
> photo.
> I am still not quite convinced, but if somebody enjoys it, - why should I
> object?
>
> Igor
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Re: PESO - Visitors

[Rob Studdert]

On 7 May 2013 04:49, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17259932&size=lg

Very nice Paul, sharp, great exposure and excellent contrast, not sure
my long Sigma zoom would manage as well in those circumstances.

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 May 2013 05:17, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
> shine in their reflections.

Very nicely caught Jack, interesting little bird too, one that I
wasn't aware of.

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Having had the chance to look at it on a larger monitor, the red is fine. Some 
feather detail and not nearly as hot as it looks on my android.

And I now see that the black feather detail is stunning!

Wonderful photo!

cheers,
frank

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Thanks, Frank.
I,also, wanted to touch up the green, so nudged the saturation slider set to 
"master."
Too much?

Jack


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Subject: RE: PESO: Redwing

Wow, nice and sharp!

Nice feather detail in the blacks but is the red a bit hot? Might be just me.

Overall a fine photo...

Cheers,
frank

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From: Jack Davis 
Sent: May 3, 2013 5/3/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO: Redwing


Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. Never 
completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more shine in 
their reflections.
I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and third 
progressively less detailed.
The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.

Comments?

Jack

K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400


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Re: PESO - Visitors

[Bruce Walker]

Perfectly posed, great light and background, Paul.

We've been visited by these guys all day today. I hope they're nesting nearby.

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Re: subjectivity of evaluations of photos

[steve harley]

on 2013-05-06 10:07 Igor Roshchin wrote

Yesterday, a friend of mine contacted me telling that she came across
one of my photos she hadn't seen before, and that she enjoyed it a lot:
http://42graphy.org/tango/dallas-2008-12-13/IMGP4909.html

In the followup exchange, she mentioned that it reminded her of these:
http://www.tangoartist.com/blogs/latest-news-from-dvora/291892-tango-calligraphy


i like the photo, it is very abstract, and even surreal with the spine-like 
shape, but the foot anchors it and makes it clearly a dance picture


then i looked at the calligraphy; not that strong a connection to me


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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

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On 7 May 2013 02:12, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> I too looked at a ton of samples and didn't see one all that sharp at
> all. Not even in the center. Its supposed to get decent figures in the
> center, but the borders are pretty awful, and all the pictures I saw
> confirmed that. If you did events and shot people, it would be more
> than ok. For landscapes and walkaround its not for me. I finally got a
> 16-45 and like it very much. Especially compared to the 18-55 mk 1 I
> also have. I generally prefer primes, but the 12-24 and 16-45 I have
> are both decent lenses. The 18-135 just doesn't do it for me. Now I
> just need a 55-300 to complete my walk around zoom kit.

It's probably not the best practice to provide opinions on a lens
based solely by looking at technical reviews and real world image
samples but, in the past, every time I have personally ignored such
data it's been proven accurate when I finally made a purchase. Like
you the 16-45 was my walk around (and only zoom lens) for some years,
aside from the sometimes irritating yellow/blue CA it's a great lens
and I produced many excellent images using it. I later bought the
18-55 WR as my go-to water resistant lens thinking it really couldn't
be as poor as the samples I saw but it was, so I now have no WR
lenses, way too much compromise in IQ for me. I only recently retired
my DA16-45 and have replaced it with a late Sigma 17-50/2.8 which
after 6 months of use has proved to be an excellent lens and great as
a walk about.

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Re: PESO - Dis

[Rob Studdert]

On 6 May 2013 05:25, Toralf Lund  wrote:
> Oslo on a hazy day: http://se.toralf.net/post/49708433031/dis

I like that, not sure exactly why though, I like the odd composition,
the vertical alignment and the reflections off the wet boards, it also
reminds me of one of my shots from long ago :)

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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Rob Studdert]

On 7 May 2013 06:01, Jan van Wijk  wrote:

> Most Pentax primes will be somewhat better than this 18-135 but it really is 
> an incredible
> versatile lens with a huge zoom range, and focussing very fast compred to 
> most other lenses.

Hi Jan, I appreciate your position, it's just that now I find that my
recently purchased zooms are in many respects almost as good as my
Pentax primes when compared side by side in controlled situations, not
like the bad old days.

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Jack Davis]

Thank you, Bruce.
I believe I mentioned the dulled "shine" in one of my earlier posts. I may, 
later, mess with the dodge tool and contrast slider, but shine may not happen.

Jack


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That's a damn fine redwing, Jack! Looks like an illustration in an Audubon book.

If it were me, I'd mess around with some post-processing to add some
shine. No doubt the tricky light conditions dulled his feathers on
you.

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
> shine in their reflections.
> I took three quick frames (AF-C). This was the first with the second and 
> third progressively less detailed.
> The tiny bit of catch-light in the eye was my good fortune.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> K-5, DA 55~300 at 300mm, f/8, 1/1250, ISO 400
>
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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Jack Davis]

Nice of you to comment, Rob. 
Thanks!
 
Jack


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On 4 May 2013 05:17, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
> shine in their reflections.

Very nicely caught Jack, interesting little bird too, one that I
wasn't aware of.

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Re: PESO - Sunday in Fontenelle Forest - 1970

[Darren Addy]

I'm guessing the camera store was "Dean's" down in the vicinity of the
Omaha World Herald square?

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Great Story!
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, George Sinos  wrote:
>> This one probably should have been called "Disaster Averted" or "If a
>> camera falls in the forest..." or something like that.
>>
>> 
>>
>> It could have been an expensive day for my boss.
>>
>> GS
>>
>>
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>> 
>> www.GeorgesPhotos.net
>> www.GeorgeSinos.com
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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Darren Addy]

Those are very common in the rural areas around here (which is to say,
mostly everywhere) but I have yet to try to snag one, myself
I'd say that is an illustration worthy of an Audubon book. Well done!

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Nice of you to comment, Rob.
> Thanks!
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> Jack
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>>
>> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
>> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
>> shine in their reflections.
>
> Very nicely caught Jack, interesting little bird too, one that I
> wasn't aware of.
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RE: subjectivity of evaluations of photos

[John Sessoms]

I dunno. I've frequently found just the opposite to be true; that others
find my work a lot more pleasing than I do. It's one reason I post so
few PESOs.

I think we often look at our own images with an eye to all the things we
wanted to do and failed to accomplish, while others just see the things
we did.

From: Igor Roshchin

I thought I'd share this story.
Typically we all like our own photos more than other people do, but
here is the opposite case.

Yesterday, a friend of mine contacted me telling that she came across
one of my photos she hadn't seen before, and that she enjoyed it a lot:
http://42graphy.org/tango/dallas-2008-12-13/IMGP4909.html

In the followup exchange, she mentioned that it reminded her of these:
http://www.tangoartist.com/blogs/latest-news-from-dvora/291892-tango-calligraphy

The interesting thing is that I didn't quite remember about this photo
taken more than 4 years ago.  Even at that time, I was not sure about it.
Obviously (?), it was not intended this way when I pressed the shutter
button. But it had rather abstract look that prevented me from deleting the
photo.
I am still not quite convinced, but if somebody enjoys it, - why should I
object?

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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[John Sessoms]

That's not good. I expect a higher standard of quality control.

From: fotoralf

Bipin Gupta  wrote:


my copy of  the 18-135 WR is extremely sharp


Hmmm...

Could it be that there are large quality variations among individual
lenses? There are a number of sources online pointing in that direction.
I've read of people exchanging theirs a few times before getting one
that was really decent.

Ralf



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Re: PESO Small World

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you, Don.

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Killing me softly with your flowers. Sweet!
>
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 16:01:32 -0400
>> From: Bruce Walker
>>
>> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List
>> Subject: PESO Small World
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>>
>> Don's huge carpets of bluebells has prompted me to post a little
>> something from yesterday.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8709138742/lightbox/
>> http://flic.kr/p/egABww
>>
>> K20D,DA*55/1.4@2.2, 1/200th, ISO 200, handheld.
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Re: PESO One that nearly got away

[Bruce Walker]

Boy did you ever have a lucky break! An excellent one to recover, too.
Maybe you should frame it?

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> Following is one of the lost images that I recovered from my memory
> card last week. Fortuantely the 200+ images that failed to copy were
> not written over even though I had used and formatted (in-camera) the
> card twice before I discovered the error.
>
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMGQ12379.jpg
>
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Re: Geso My Spring Flowers

[Rob Studdert]

On 4 May 2013 01:36, Don Guthrie  wrote:

> So it is in defiance of winter that I post these Spring photos taken in the
> days before the storm. I used several lenses and a couple of cameras here.
> One or two of the "daffy" pix may have been taken with my OLY - purists may
> avert their eyes. Join me in my efforts to start Spring. DIE WINTER DIE!

Great gallery, I love the first bluebell shot, we are just
experiencing the first of the cold here.

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Re: PESO: Portrait of Sugar

[Aahz Maruch]

On Thu, May 02, 2013, Walt wrote:
>
> This is Sugar, one of the most difficult subjects I've ever tried to
> shoot. She's as uncooperative as any self-absorbed fashion model
> that ever lived. But, I finally got a decent shot of her.
> 
> The main reason I'm posting it, though, is to rave about the
> sharpness of the F 50/1.7 even at maximum aperture.
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8703525938/
> K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 200, 1/2000 sec.
> 
> Why, yes, I am quite happy with this lens.

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Re: OT For the cyclists here

[Peter Loveday]

Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
this article may be of interest:

http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488


I wonder if there is a similar correlation between having sustained a 
'severe head injury', and being a Pentax user.


- Peter


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PESO - First Grebe of the Year

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

They've been back for several weeks but this is the first good look I've had:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/first-grebe-of-year.html?m=1

Unfortunately I didn't have my monopod, the damned SR was set at the wrong 
focal length and I had my Tokina 80-200 f2.8 zoom - all of which conspire 
against sharpness.

Despite the softness I rather like it. Hope you do too. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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RE: PESO - First Grebe of the Year

[Gerrit Visser]

Rising like a phoenix out of the water...
The vertical reflections are a lovely contrast to the circular ripples.

Gerrit

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They've been back for several weeks but this is the first good look I've
had:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/first-grebe-of-year.html?m=1

Unfortunately I didn't have my monopod, the damned SR was set at the wrong
focal length and I had my Tokina 80-200 f2.8 zoom - all of which conspire
against sharpness.

Despite the softness I rather like it. Hope you do too. Comments always
welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO: Redwing

[Jack Davis]

Very nice words, Darren.
Thanks!

Jack



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Subject: Re: PESO: Redwing


Those are very common in the rural areas around here (which is to say,
mostly everywhere) but I have yet to try to snag one, myself
I'd say that is an illustration worthy of an Audubon book. Well done!

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>
>
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>>
>> Earlier this AM I had the best chance to date at a Red-winged blackbird. 
>> Never completely pleased, I wish the black feathers had picked up a bit more 
>> shine in their reflections.
>
> Very nicely caught Jack, interesting little bird too, one that I
> wasn't aware of.
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Re: PESO - First Grebe of the Year

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice catch, nice image.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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> They've been back for several weeks but this is the first good look I've had:
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/first-grebe-of-year.html?m=1
>
> Unfortunately I didn't have my monopod, the damned SR was set at the wrong 
> focal length and I had my Tokina 80-200 f2.8 zoom - all of which conspire 
> against sharpness.
>
> Despite the softness I rather like it. Hope you do too. Comments always 
> welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
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RE: OT For the cyclists here

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

While we're at it why don't we start discussions about abortion, gun control 
and the existence of God? (yes, yes and no, fwiw)

For some reason helmets give rise to the same intensity of discussions among 
cyclists (not just on this list btw).

As for me, don't care what any study says I like wearing them and will continue 
to do so. Others can do what they want, don't so much care, as long as they're 
adults it's their personal decision, I won't judge either way.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Rob Studdert 
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Subject: OT For the cyclists here

Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
this article may be of interest:

http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488

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Re: Qeustion for mirrorless shooters, using both eyes?

[Boris Liberman]

On 5/6/2013 6:16 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

If you are using a mirrorless camera for photographing
action, do you need to use both eyes?  One in the view
finder for framing and focusing, and the other to watch
the action and know when to press the shutter?



Nope... My eyesight does not let me to... I could do that with optical 
viewfinder and some very select prime lenses...


Boris


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Re: First PESO in a long while

[Boris Liberman]

Very often I would look into my Ricoh EVF and think to myself, if I 
could take the picture as I see it, along with the "running ants" of 
focus assist lights, that would look good.


You totally nailed it for me, Mark!

Wonderful photograph.

On 5/5/2013 8:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

From a hike in February. We went half way up Mount Washington.

Snowshoes were mandatory - this was pretty tough. As you can see, it
was socked in and there wasn't much of a view. The mountain extends
upward a far beyond what is visible in this shot.

http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7dd00728-30.htm





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Re: PESO - First Grebe of the Year

[Aahz Maruch]

On Tue, May 07, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> They've been back for several weeks but this is the first good look I've had:
> 
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/05/first-grebe-of-year.html?m=1

Gotta getta grebe!
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PESO: Worn Out

[David Mann]

Had a few spare moments to take the macro lens out into the garden this 
afternoon.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/611/#peso

I've written a new gallery system and I'm using enough CSS3 that it'll probably 
look like arse on many systems.  If it's working you should see some rounded 
corners and drop shadows, and a fancy font for the title (the comments beneath 
are just Helvetica / Arial).  The latest Firefox and Safari work well.  IE8 
does not (I don't have IE9).  Chrome should be good.

Oh yeah and you'll need to allow javascript.  That should weed a few more of 
you out ;)

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: OT For the cyclists here

[Bill]

On 06/05/2013 9:31 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

While we're at it why don't we start discussions about abortion, gun control 
and the existence of God? (yes, yes and no, fwiw)

For some reason helmets give rise to the same intensity of discussions among 
cyclists (not just on this list btw).

As for me, don't care what any study says I like wearing them and will continue 
to do so. Others can do what they want, don't so much care, as long as they're 
adults it's their personal decision, I won't judge either way.

In general I agree with your attitude, except when it comes to public 
liability. In our country, it is costing the public purse more for 
unhelmeted riders who conk their noggins. If we had private insurance, I 
would say it's between the rider and his insurance company, but in a 
publicly funded system, the cards play a little differently.


bill

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Re: OT For the cyclists here

[Philip Northeast]

There is bit more detail in this article, by the same author

http://theconversation.com/bike-helmets-an-emergency-doctors-perspective-13935


I do not ride my motorcycle or bicycle without a helmet.

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 7/05/13 11:40 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Discussions around sex, religion, politics and the controversy
surrounding bicycle helmets are usually shunned but I thought that
this article may be of interest:

http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=11488

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Re: DA 18 - 135 mm anyone?

[Bipin Gupta]

Quote Rob: "I find that my recently purchased zooms are in many
respects almost as good as my Pentax primes when compared side by side
in controlled situations, not like the bad old days".

I concur with Rob. I have not bought a single prime, apart from the
older collection of M42, M, K & A lenses. I have quite a few new zoom
lenses - Pentax, Tamron and Sigma - some in the high quality f2.8
version.

I have the Pentax 18-135 WR, and as I mentioned earlier it is a very
sharp copy, with great contrast and colors. Quiet and excellent auto
focusing too. And any zoom will show some sharpness drop off at the
extreme ends.
But alas!, I wanted some detractors amongst us PDMLers, to comment on
two photos I posted on sharpness. Both blown up by 100%. Used
primitive screen shot to capture the image. Link given below again for
sharpness comment:-


https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y2u0e14w64tl8u1/iWyqtCPDeS

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/18-135%20WR

Note: a) 100% crops. Some sharpness again lost due to my primitive
screen capture method on my (5) year laptop.
 b) K-5 + 18-135 combo bought new from Henrys of Toronto
shipped for CAD 1108 in January 2013 - CAD &
 USD at par then.

I will be doing bench tests on edge to edge sharpness for the 18-135
using my famous beer bottle setup which I posted earlier for the
Tamron 28-75 f2.8 Lens - $ 457 from B&H brand new - which turned out
brutally sharp.

Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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Re: OT Amazing project gallery

[Tim Bray]

If I had the talent & technique to make these, I wouldn’t. But I
enjoyed looking at them. -T

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> Woman, 36, who lost mother to brain cancer creates breathtaking
> fantasy land photo series in her memory:
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2145760/Wonderland-Kirsty-Mitchell-heart-breakingly-beautiful-photographic-series-memory-extraordinary-life.html
>
> Cheers,
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Re: GESO: Vietnam up-close (but mostly from the air)

[Tim Bray]

Thanks!  Another look at history. -T

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
> I scanned some images for a friend last weekend.  He'd picked out a small 
> stack of Kodachromes from when he was a helicopter pilot during the Vietnam 
> war.
>
> Some interesting shots in there.  Nothing earth-shatteringly amazing, but 
> it's interesting to see it from the perspective of someone who wasn't "the 
> press" if you know what I mean.
>
> Beautiful looking countryside!
>
> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2013/steve_vietnam_2/
>
>  -Charles
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Re: PESO: Would-be prince by a pond

[Tim Bray]

Very nice.  But I wouldn’t kiss him. -T

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Walt  wrote:
> So, yesterday I was sitting by a little pond on one of our local game
> preserves when I heard a little frog croaking. It took me a while to figure
> out where he was, and as it turned out, he was sitting about five feet from
> me.
>
> I'm still amazed he didn't hop into the drink when I started shooting. I got
> as close as I possibly could -- even closer than the F 50/1.7 would focus!
> The little dude was about the size of a quarter. I was actually hoping to
> get a shot of him hopping into the water, but he was a very patient little
> guy. He finally did just as I was rising a bit to get a better angle, so I
> missed that shot. But, I thought this one was a pretty good get.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8701412099/
> K-5, F 50/1.7, f/2.8, 1/125, ISO 200
>
> I have to say I'm pretty damned impressed with the sharpness of that lens!
>
> -- Walt
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Re: GESO Lichenscapes

[Tim Bray]

Wow! Most surprising pictures I’ve seen in a long long time. Thanks -T

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> Hi Team
>
> Some pics from a vacation bush walk:
>
> https://plus.google.com/photos/100717932944223796708/albums/5873977800285686929?banner=pwa&authkey=CPH32cvg0rKR8wE
>
> All but the first image captured using the 35LTD Macro, hand held.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: Qeustion for mirrorless shooters, using both eyes?

[Tim Bray]

My only mirrorless experience is the Fuji X-E1.  If I hold it in front
of my face to use the LCD on the back, I use both eyes. If I hold the
EVF up to my (usually but not always) left eye, I use that one.  The
EVF is not really ideal for seriously fast-moving sports, but works
for most everyday shots.
-T

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> If you are using a mirrorless camera for photographing
> action, do you need to use both eyes?  One in the view
> finder for framing and focusing, and the other to watch
> the action and know when to press the shutter?
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OT enablement

[Larry Colen]

I was visiting a friend tonight, and his wife had 
mentioned having an old film nikon she no longer 
used and wanted to give to me.  Turns out it was 
an FG. It also turns out that it has something wrong
with it. The mirror is stuck in the up position, 
and the shutter won't cock.

However, it also came with an AIS mount Nikkor 50/1.8.
The one Nikon lens I was seriously missing was a fast 
standard.  

Even cooler, she also gave me a micro Nikkor 55/2.8 
1:1 macro lens.

At this point, I can't help but wonder what a used
D7000 would go for.

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Re: Qeustion for mirrorless shooters, using both eyes?

[Chris Mitchell]

On 6 May 2013 16:16, Larry Colen  wrote:
> If you are using a mirrorless camera for photographing
> action, do you need to use both eyes?  One in the view
> finder for framing and focusing, and the other to watch
> the action and know when to press the shutter?
>
> --
I look through the viewfinder with my left eye so would have to turn
the camera upside down to do that...

Chris

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GESO: Mussel beach macro!

[Tim Bray]

https://plus.google.com/+TimBray/posts/Kg8DqzwaSTy

Off to our cabin on a Pacific-Northwest island; I left the enchanting
Fuji mirrorless behind and took along the K-5 with a couple lenses,
but never managed to take off the 100mm F2.8 macro.

I still like the K-5 but... damn, it’s big and bulky and heavy, those
prisms carry a cost.  -T

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