RE: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

2013-07-07 Thread Gerrit Visser
I would summarize it this way after owning an old Ferrari for 10 years and
before that several sailboats. Hobbies are hobbies, they make no financial
sense but emotionally the expenses bring priceless rewards. 
Hobbies are an investment in your happiness.

gerrit

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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:01 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

Aahz Sir, my son went thru the same thought process, namely:
a) Prefer a compact camera with some capability of a DSLR
b) Viewfinder not essential- comfortable with LCD.
c) DSLR size like my K-5 a big NO.
d) Money not a very big issue - can spend up to CAD 650
e) Decent video capability as an add on.
He borrowed a friends Nikon D5200, but returned it the same day.
He than got the Sony Nex-5R CAD 570 with the 18-55 lens and the Nex-3N CAD
400 with the 16-50 Lens.
After extensive tests and general feel of the cameras, he kept the Nex-3N.
These Nex's have an APS-C sensor. Pretty impressive too as per DxO mark.
And Aahz I wouldn't bother too much about Hobby Cost, as just holding a
camera gives me immense pleasure and happiness. Do ring in this stress
busting calculation into the costing. And I don't even make money with my
hobby.
I too waited and waited for the "right technology". Bought a Minolta bridge
digital camera in 2003, till my daughter gave me a K20D in 2009. She said,
hey Papa, technology will keep overtaking you, get it now.
So why wait for another 5 or 10 years - a $ now may be 10 times in your
technology future.
Just my 2-cents, from a wise spender, a master mechanic and all things
photographic buzz; ah! and I forget, a retired old fart of an Advisor in the
worlds biggest conglomerate.
Doesn't sound like a free sermon I hope?
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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RE: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Gerrit Visser
Those are amazing. 

Perhaps humming softly would lull them into motionless appreciation?

Gerrit

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Subject: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems like
stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it yesterday
with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. 
But here are the first:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-d
ragonflies-in-the-field

All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab a
fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.

All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will work
out. C&C appreciated.

Mark


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Re: New Firmware for Q and Q10

2013-07-07 Thread Derby Chang


Thanks Brian.

Updated mine. Hadn't noticed there is a lens cap lens for the Q. Might 
get one. I have the Oly version for the m4/3 and it amuses me.



On 7/07/2013 9:51 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/07/04/new-firmware-for-pentax-q10-q




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Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Jack Davis
Exceptional work, Mark. Do you have a blind set up?

Jack


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From: Mark C 
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Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems 
like stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it 
yesterday with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. 
But here are the first:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field

All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab 
a fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.

All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will 
work out. C&C appreciated.

Mark


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Re: PESO Three Amigos

2013-07-07 Thread Derby Chang


The multiple hands is a little odd, but on the other hand, I like the 
unposed pose. And the louring sky is an excellent counterpoint




On 3/07/2013 11:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
air time with location lighting gear.

I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
need to refine my sandbagging technique.

I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...

http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj

K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
#02: Bastard Straw.
Lr & Nik Suite.

More results coming later.

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Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity

2013-07-07 Thread Walt

Thanks for the tips, Stan.

I'll see what I can work out as to an assistant when I talk to the bride 
-- which is supposed to be sometime today. And I really like the 
business card idea.


I've got about three months to prepare for this if I end up accepting 
the job. I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound like a hell of a 
lot of time to me.


-- Walt

On 7/6/2013 1:24 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

And another follow-up thought. Remember the days when sit-down wedding receptions 
featured a disposable film camera on every table? Guests took candid shots of 
one-another, the bride collected the cameras and had the film developed . . . 
Today's version of that would be to have a handful of business cards on every table 
with a website link and a request that they upload copies of all of their best 
shots from their iPhones, P&S cameras, etc. You could than incorporate some of 
those shots into the albums.

stan

On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Walt wrote:


Thank you, Stan.

One of the reasons I'm so hesitant about this is that it's going to be in a 
setting of the type I've never, ever been in before. From what I gather, this 
is going to be a fairly swanky affair replete with bigwigs and such. So, I 
can't help feeling I'll be the proverbial turd in the punchbowl. The closest 
thing I've done to this was an awards banquet at the Olympic Club in SF -- back 
when I crashed on Larry's couch. I'd only been shooting a little over a year at 
the time, and I've learned a (relatively) huge amount since then. But, still . 
. .

Thanks for the pointer on practicing flash technique. As for what the bride is 
expecting, as I understand it, she's going to want prints and an album -- 
likely even a book. I figure I can glean the overall aesthetic she's looking 
for based on what I see at the wedding itself -- assuming I'm stupid enough to 
take on the challenge.

Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the bride 
before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and come up with a 
list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why she might consider 
someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;)

-- Walt

On 7/6/2013 11:55 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

The little I know about wedding photography comes from reading this list plus 
watching the photographers at my own weddings. So, no specific advice, but if 
it were me, my preparation would probably involve a few aspects.

First, read. (By coincidence this offer showed up in my in-box today. No clue 
if this is good, bad, or indifferent, but it is a reminder that there are 
resources out there:
( 
http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2013_July_6_PP_PBM_WeddingShots_EDOW_ends
 )
Second, at least sample some of the web resources Bruce mentioned.
Third, sit with the bride-to-be (and her mother if the mother is going to be 
influential throughout the process) and go through some of her friend's wedding 
albums, talking about what shots she (they) particularly want and expect to be 
in the eventual wedding album.
Fourth, practice your flash technique in spaces similar to what you'll see 
before-during-after the wedding. If you only get proficient in using 
bounce-flash in low-ceilinged bars or basements, you might be at a loss in a 
high-ceilinged church. (Speaking of church, find out early what sort of 
restrictions there will be on photography during the service; if it a church, 
some pastors can be quite fussy about photography in general, about the use of 
flash [generally not accepted], etc.)
Fifth, make sure that you and the bride-to-be are totally in synch with respect 
to what the product will be. Prints? Albums? 600x800 jpeg's on Facebook? Does 
she expect to see everything, or is she willing to let you cull and select the 
better shots for her to choose from? And then prepare yourself for the process 
of editing, posting, printing . . . And how soon does she want to see proofs? 
Note that her friends will have wedding shots posted on Facebook before the 
reception is over. She'll be willing to endure a wait for your higher-quality 
images, but it may not take many days before your contribution to the image set 
is seen as an afterthought, a footnote to the big event rather than a major 
part of the event.

Enjoy the trip!

stan


On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Walt wrote:


Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his home as 
a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of charging me 
for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist on compensating 
him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there today and get started 
on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work and time, but not a 
whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place is just about ideal 
as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's proceeding nicely.

After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from him 
asking if I'd be interested in sho

Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Derby Chang


My gabber is flasted.


On 7/07/2013 1:40 PM, Mark C wrote:
I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems 
like stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it 
yesterday with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go 
through. But here are the first:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field 



All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to 
grab a fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.


All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will 
work out. C&C appreciated.


Mark





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Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity

2013-07-07 Thread Walt

Ha! I'm actually almost the opposite.

I'm the kind of person who will carry all kinds of things, and forget to 
use them when they'd really come in handy.


The last portrait session I did, I discovered that I'd done the entire 
thing without putting the diffuser on my flash, which was in my pocket 
the whole time.


Thanks!

-- Walt

On 7/6/2013 1:23 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Walt: listen to Stan! Especially if you are the sort of person who
puts things down randomly and loses track of them. Like me.

(At my last outdoor shoot I lost the little widget that shields the
dome on my light meter for directional readings. I will have to make
one now.)

On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

One additional thought. You might want to see if you can hire an assistant. 
Someone to hold your camera bag, to hold your off-camera flash in position, to 
hold your spare camera body, with alternate lens mounted,  to hand you as 
needed (faster than switching lenses). Note that tv, a former list member who 
morphed into a successful wedding business, went through 7+ assistants. (He 
married #7). At least the first 6 kept dropping things, tripping over tripods, 
etc., so having an assistant can be a mixed blessing, but probably useful on 
balance. Possibly a teenage boy expected to attend with family: he'll be bored 
out of his mind with the wedding and would be glad to earn a few bucks . . .

stan

On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Walt wrote:


On 7/6/2013 12:37 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, Walt wrote:

Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask
the bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit
down and come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany
of reasons why she might consider someone who knows what the hell
they're doing. ;)

One important reason: even if she's not paying "pro" rates for your work,
under no circumstances should you take this job without getting paid for
your travel expenses.  That would be a significant chunk of money she
might use instead for paying a good local photographer; she's not going
to save much (if any) by using you -- she should only use you if she
feels she has a good connection with you such that you'll do a better job
of getting candids and formals than someone she doesn't have a connection
with.

That's something I've already stipulated to her brother -- travel, room and 
board, and anything above that would be gravy. Essentially, I told him that I'd 
be ecstatic to take the job, if only for the experience -- but I don't want to 
under-perform expectations.

 From what I gather, the pro rates in that area are howlingly outrageous, and 
that travel, room and board would be a pittance by comparison. So, he offered 
me up as a sacrificial lamb/reasonable alternative.

-- Walt

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Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity

2013-07-07 Thread Walt

Thanks for the advice, Paul!

I'll refer to this when I talk to the bride today and will see what I 
can dig up on Google with regard to a checklist. I'm still not too sure 
I'll take the job, but if I do, this will be helpful.


I'll probably avoid lobster, just in case. But the booze will be tough. ;)

-- Walt


On 7/6/2013 8:07 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Walt -

It sounds as though there are a lot of unknowns at this point.  A good 
long talk with the bride to be should give you an idea of what she 
wants.  You need to know her expectations and results that she wants - 
CD, 8x10s, album, books, etc.  Once you know what she wants then you 
can decide if it's something you can deliver.


What pixs does she want - of whom?  Who are the special people? Many 
times these are the last photos of old folks before they die.


Get a checklist and have her mark what pix she and the groom want.  If 
you can't find anything by googling let me know and I'll get you a 
couple samples.


When it comes to what the bride, groom and their families want, get as 
much in writing as possible.  A completed checklist signed by the 
bride (and groom) is invaluable both as a reminder to you of what pix 
to take and as something to point to when someone after the fact says 
"but you didn't get that shot that I wanted". They also need to sign 
off on all the locations and what time you are to be at each one.


Know the venue.  Where are good shooting locations and what 
limitations does the clergy have?  Sometimes it's not just a case of 
flash or no flash.  I had one minister tell me if he caught me taking 
*any* pix he'd stop the ceremony and throw me out.  OTOH, a Russian 
Orthodox priest told me his only restriction was that I couldn't stand 
up on the altar behind him.


Have an agreement about what happens in the event something unforseen 
happens and you can't do the shoot.  What if you are struck down by 
bad lobster the night before the wedding?


No alcohol for you...you're working!!!

Then...have fun!

Will let you know if I think of anything else.

-p



On 7/6/2013 12:30 PM, Walt wrote:

Thank you, Stan.

One of the reasons I'm so hesitant about this is that it's going to be
in a setting of the type I've never, ever been in before. From what I
gather, this is going to be a fairly swanky affair replete with bigwigs
and such. So, I can't help feeling I'll be the proverbial turd in the
punchbowl. The closest thing I've done to this was an awards banquet at
the Olympic Club in SF -- back when I crashed on Larry's couch. I'd only
been shooting a little over a year at the time, and I've learned a
(relatively) huge amount since then. But, still . . .

Thanks for the pointer on practicing flash technique. As for what the
bride is expecting, as I understand it, she's going to want prints and
an album -- likely even a book. I figure I can glean the overall
aesthetic she's looking for based on what I see at the wedding itself --
assuming I'm stupid enough to take on the challenge.

Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the
bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and
come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why
she might consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;)

-- Walt

On 7/6/2013 11:55 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

The little I know about wedding photography comes from reading this
list plus watching the photographers at my own weddings. So, no
specific advice, but if it were me, my preparation would probably
involve a few aspects.

First, read. (By coincidence this offer showed up in my in-box today.
No clue if this is good, bad, or indifferent, but it is a reminder
that there are resources out there:
(
http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2013_July_6_PP_PBM_WeddingShots_EDOW_ends 


)
Second, at least sample some of the web resources Bruce mentioned.
Third, sit with the bride-to-be (and her mother if the mother is going
to be influential throughout the process) and go through some of her
friend's wedding albums, talking about what shots she (they)
particularly want and expect to be in the eventual wedding album.
Fourth, practice your flash technique in spaces similar to what you'll
see before-during-after the wedding. If you only get proficient in
using bounce-flash in low-ceilinged bars or basements, you might be at
a loss in a high-ceilinged church. (Speaking of church, find out early
what sort of restrictions there will be on photography during the
service; if it a church, some pastors can be quite fussy about
photography in general, about the use of flash [generally not
accepted], etc.)
Fifth, make sure that you and the bride-to-be are totally in synch
with respect to what the product will be. Prints? Albums? 600x800
jpeg's on Facebook? Does she expect to see everything, or is she
willing to let you cull and select the better shots for her to choose
from? And then prepare yourself for the process of editing, posting,
print

Re: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

2013-07-07 Thread Alan C

Well said. An inestimable ROI.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Gerrit Visser

Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 1:02 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

I would summarize it this way after owning an old Ferrari for 10 years and
before that several sailboats. Hobbies are hobbies, they make no financial
sense but emotionally the expenses bring priceless rewards.
Hobbies are an investment in your happiness.

gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:01 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

Aahz Sir, my son went thru the same thought process, namely:
a) Prefer a compact camera with some capability of a DSLR
b) Viewfinder not essential- comfortable with LCD.
c) DSLR size like my K-5 a big NO.
d) Money not a very big issue - can spend up to CAD 650
e) Decent video capability as an add on.
He borrowed a friends Nikon D5200, but returned it the same day.
He than got the Sony Nex-5R CAD 570 with the 18-55 lens and the Nex-3N CAD
400 with the 16-50 Lens.
After extensive tests and general feel of the cameras, he kept the Nex-3N.
These Nex's have an APS-C sensor. Pretty impressive too as per DxO mark.
And Aahz I wouldn't bother too much about Hobby Cost, as just holding a
camera gives me immense pleasure and happiness. Do ring in this stress
busting calculation into the costing. And I don't even make money with my
hobby.
I too waited and waited for the "right technology". Bought a Minolta bridge
digital camera in 2003, till my daughter gave me a K20D in 2009. She said,
hey Papa, technology will keep overtaking you, get it now.
So why wait for another 5 or 10 years - a $ now may be 10 times in your
technology future.
Just my 2-cents, from a wise spender, a master mechanic and all things
photographic buzz; ah! and I forget, a retired old fart of an Advisor in the
worlds biggest conglomerate.
Doesn't sound like a free sermon I hope?
Regards.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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OT GESOs - shooting into the sun

2013-07-07 Thread Derby Chang


After a few weeks of dreary weather, we've have some rather lovely sunny 
winter days.


Nothing wrong with Fuji's lens coating. X100 makes it almost too easy to 
shoot this stuff

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/fujicontrajour/index.html

Walked out today with three M8 batteries, but found two of them were 
juiceless. D'oh. Made for some good old-fashioned judicious shooting.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/leicaoldandnew/index.html

The old lens is a scratched up Summarit that I haven't used for a while. 
The new one is the gorgeous 35mm 'cron pre-aspherical. Love them both 
for different reasons.


Apologies to Aahz, didn't know there was a problem with the js or my ISP 
server. Let me investigate.


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Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity

2013-07-07 Thread Walt

On 7/6/2013 5:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Aahz Maruch

On Sat, Jul 06, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:


On a more practical note, if the wedding is going to be held in a
church, scout the location in advance & talk to whatever clergy is 
going

to be in charge there. Find out if they have restrictions ... like no
flash; you can only photograph from this place or that place; ...


Fortunately, the K-5 makes "no flash" doable, but definitely bring 
lenses
with big apertures.  (Not that Walt really needs a reminder given the 
bar

photos he's been taking.  But if you rent a spare body, definitely get a
K-5.)


Whatever the capabilities of the camera, they are no substitute for
finding out IN ADVANCE whether the venue has any restrictions. If you
can't do anything else, talk to the clergy at the rehearsal & block out
your shots with him/her then & there to make sure it's not going to
cause ill will between what the bride expects & the church allows.

If the restrictions are too onerous, sic the bride's mama on the 
preacher.


You don't want to be learning about restrictions and trying to adapt on
the fly while the organist is already playing the processional.


Thanks, John.

I will definitely be sure to discuss that with the bride when I talk to 
her today.


The few weddings I've done (a whopping four), I've had free rein to just 
do what I wanted to do. Of course, they were all considerably less 
formal than this one -- which is why I'm so reluctant to accept it. I'm 
really torn about the whole thing.


-- Walt

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PESO: Academic Procession

2013-07-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Faculty Members Leaving Dartmouth Commencement.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17426730
Comments are Invited.

Dan Matyola
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RE: PESO: Porsche

2013-07-07 Thread Gerrit Visser
Love the bug splatters, but badge is a bit tilted?

Gerrit

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443939
Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO Rosie

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
I was very happy with how the flash and ambient balanced to produce
nice highlights. Thanks, Gerrit!

On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Gerrit Visser  wrote:
> Lovely, the highlights in the eyes are effective.
>
> Gerrit
>
>
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> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List
> Subject: PESO Rosie
>
> A portrait from the outdoor evening shoot that produced Tres Amigas ...
>
> http://flic.kr/p/f3ydb2  Rosie
>
> Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Derby.

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> The multiple hands is a little odd, but on the other hand, I like the
> unposed pose. And the louring sky is an excellent counterpoint
>
>
>
>
> On 3/07/2013 11:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>
>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>
>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>
>> More results coming later.
>>
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Re: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Gerrit Visser  wrote:
>
> Hobbies are an investment in your happiness.

Mark!

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RE: OT GESOs - shooting into the sun

2013-07-07 Thread Gerrit Visser
Lovely captures. I particularly like the informal shots taken of people.

Gerrit

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After a few weeks of dreary weather, we've have some rather lovely sunny
winter days.

Nothing wrong with Fuji's lens coating. X100 makes it almost too easy to
shoot this stuff
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/fujicontrajour/index.html

Walked out today with three M8 batteries, but found two of them were
juiceless. D'oh. Made for some good old-fashioned judicious shooting.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/leicaoldandnew/index.html

The old lens is a scratched up Summarit that I haven't used for a while. 
The new one is the gorgeous 35mm 'cron pre-aspherical. Love them both for
different reasons.

Apologies to Aahz, didn't know there was a problem with the js or my ISP
server. Let me investigate.

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Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Remarkable images. I like #2 best for contrast and composition,
despite the tiny SF artifacts.

How fast are you tripping the shutter, Mark? If you run an AF540 flash
at 1/64th power the recycle time is _very_ fast; stroboscopic speeds.

If that's not quick enough for you, I urge you to try LED panels.
Compact, portable, continuous light; can be used in light modifiers. I
put them on micro tripods for off-axis light. Great for macro.


Maybe you can lull your dragonflies by setting up a small TV in front
of them? :-)



On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems like
> stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it yesterday
> with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. But here are
> the first:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field
>
> All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab a
> fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.
>
> All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will work
> out. C&C appreciated.
>
> Mark
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Re: OT GESOs - shooting into the sun

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Always entertaining, Derby. Really hard to choose faves; Leica #5 and
Fuji #3 & #5 are special. Actually the entire Fuji set is wonderful.
You must be like a ghost in the crowd.

BTW, I haven't experienced any particular slowdowns with your gallery.
I'm used to Javascript galleries being kinda sluggish by nature.
Lightbox and similar do a lot of image transformations and take their
time doing it. Can look really slow on mobile devices with wimpy CPUs.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> After a few weeks of dreary weather, we've have some rather lovely sunny
> winter days.
>
> Nothing wrong with Fuji's lens coating. X100 makes it almost too easy to
> shoot this stuff
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/fujicontrajour/index.html
>
> Walked out today with three M8 batteries, but found two of them were
> juiceless. D'oh. Made for some good old-fashioned judicious shooting.
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/leicaoldandnew/index.html
>
> The old lens is a scratched up Summarit that I haven't used for a while. The
> new one is the gorgeous 35mm 'cron pre-aspherical. Love them both for
> different reasons.
>
> Apologies to Aahz, didn't know there was a problem with the js or my ISP
> server. Let me investigate.
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Fwd: Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Mark C



That is an interesting idea... I have one of those flashes but have not
used it in a while, also an old Olympus "safe synch" device which is
supposed to protect newer camera form high voltage of old flashes. the
AF360FGZ that I use has the same setting, but I don't know if that flash
at 1/16th would be powerful enough.

Mark

On 7/7/2013 12:08 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Just a thought, but the old Vivitar 285s used to come with fractional
manual flash settings down to 1/16th power. That would give you up to
16 flashes as fast as you could fire the shutter. The old flash is not
safe to put in the hot shoe, but you could trigger it with radio
slave. The old classic 273s had a accessory Vari-power module that let
you do something similar, I think.

Darren

On Saturday, July 6, 2013, Mark C wrote:

I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it
seems like stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I
worked on it yesterday with mixed results - still have a lot of
stacks to go through. But here are the first:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field

All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to
grab a fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash
keep up.

All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this
will work out. C&C appreciated.

Mark


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Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Mark C
Thanks - these are the best of several tries at various stacks - devoted 
a good bit of the last two days to this as the process is pretty time 
consuming. I think I am only about 1/2 way through the stacks I shot. 
Most fail abysmally in the wings - they just get all jumbled together. I 
may try some other stacking programs and see if they do a better job of 
aligning the images, but the cell pattern in the wings and inevitable 
movement of them in the field will probably be an issue no matter what.


Thanks for looking!

Mark


On 7/7/2013 7:07 AM, Gerrit Visser wrote:

Those are amazing.

Perhaps humming softly would lull them into motionless appreciation?

Gerrit

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Subject: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems like
stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it yesterday
with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through.
But here are the first:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-d
ragonflies-in-the-field

All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab a
fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.

All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will work
out. C&C appreciated.

Mark


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Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wow. Simply superb. Beautiful color and amazingly sharp.
Paul
On Jul 7, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Mark C  wrote:

> 
> 
> That is an interesting idea... I have one of those flashes but have not
> used it in a while, also an old Olympus "safe synch" device which is
> supposed to protect newer camera form high voltage of old flashes. the
> AF360FGZ that I use has the same setting, but I don't know if that flash
> at 1/16th would be powerful enough.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 7/7/2013 12:08 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
>> Just a thought, but the old Vivitar 285s used to come with fractional
>> manual flash settings down to 1/16th power. That would give you up to
>> 16 flashes as fast as you could fire the shutter. The old flash is not
>> safe to put in the hot shoe, but you could trigger it with radio
>> slave. The old classic 273s had a accessory Vari-power module that let
>> you do something similar, I think.
>> 
>> Darren
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 6, 2013, Mark C wrote:
>> 
>>I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it
>>seems like stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I
>>worked on it yesterday with mixed results - still have a lot of
>>stacks to go through. But here are the first:
>> 
>>
>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field
>> 
>>All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to
>>grab a fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash
>>keep up.
>> 
>>All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this
>>will work out. C&C appreciated.
>> 
>>Mark
>> 
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Fwd: blockage of the virtual kind :-(

2013-07-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Ann is having problems posting.

Looks like she got on a spam list somehow.

Paul

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ann Sanfedele 
> Subject: blockage of the virtual kind :-(
> Date: July 7, 2013 11:02:43 AM EDT
> To: William Robb , paul Stenquist 
> , frank theriault , David 
> J Brooks , Don Guthrie , Doug 
> Brewer , steve harley 
> 
> Ironically, I haven't posted much recently for "things too insane here " 
> reasons - last night I tried to respond to someone liking my PUG and post a 
> PESO (cat photo, maybe that was why I was blocked, har!)
> 
> This, on top of broken refrige, flaky camera behavior and some family sadness 
> that I won't go into, but it's been a rough week
> 
> will somebody post that I'm not ignoring the list? I can read everything
> in email - but get  this message when I try to post
> _
> Mail Delivery Failure
> 
> This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).
> 
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
> >>> pdml@pdml.net (after RCPT TO): 550-"JunkMail rejected - 
> >>> hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]:8293 is in an
> 550 RBL, see Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?71.74.56.122";
> 
> 
> stay cool, wherever you are
> 
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Re: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Bruce. I wound up shooting at ISO 800 yesterday and that worked 
out to most shots being at 1/15ooth to 1/2000th at f 5.6. That makes me 
realize that if a flash with high speed synch would be needed, so it 
probably would have to be the AF540FGZ. I do have a Bolt LED ringlight, 
though - I will probably try that next.


Thanks -

Mark


On 7/7/2013 10:00 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Remarkable images. I like #2 best for contrast and composition,
despite the tiny SF artifacts.

How fast are you tripping the shutter, Mark? If you run an AF540 flash
at 1/64th power the recycle time is _very_ fast; stroboscopic speeds.

If that's not quick enough for you, I urge you to try LED panels.
Compact, portable, continuous light; can be used in light modifiers. I
put them on micro tripods for off-axis light. Great for macro.


Maybe you can lull your dragonflies by setting up a small TV in front
of them? :-)



On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Mark C  wrote:

I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems like
stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it yesterday
with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. But here are
the first:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field

All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab a
fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.

All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will work
out. C&C appreciated.

Mark


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Re: July PUG is up!!

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Ann's "9th street Garage doggie" takes the (tempting) cake.

Paul's shot is really intriguing. It doesn't say Temptation to me, but
it does say KINKY in bright red neon letters. :-)  And I love the
reflection in the blade.


On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> A fairly small gallery this month and, as usual, you'll find it here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there)
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
>
> +
>
> We have an extra gallery for July:
>
> 'Open Gallery' - closing date 20 July.  Quite a few submissions so far -
> there's no theme, just submit an image you'd like to share.  What could be
> easier?  :-)>
>
> The August theme is 'Signs of the Times'.
>
>
> Submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> Submission Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> The main requirements are:
> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
> * Max file size: 300k
> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
> lens used is Pentax.
> * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that
> the image is displayed correctly on line.
>
>
> --
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>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
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> ++
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Re: OT GESOs - shooting into the sun

2013-07-07 Thread Stan Halpin
Fun shots as usual. I particularly like #'s 3, 5, and 4 (in that order of 
preference) in the Leica gallery.

stan

On Jul 7, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

> 
> After a few weeks of dreary weather, we've have some rather lovely sunny 
> winter days.
> 
> Nothing wrong with Fuji's lens coating. X100 makes it almost too easy to 
> shoot this stuff
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/fujicontrajour/index.html
> 
> Walked out today with three M8 batteries, but found two of them were 
> juiceless. D'oh. Made for some good old-fashioned judicious shooting.
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/leicaoldandnew/index.html
> 
> The old lens is a scratched up Summarit that I haven't used for a while. The 
> new one is the gorgeous 35mm 'cron pre-aspherical. Love them both for 
> different reasons.
> 
> Apologies to Aahz, didn't know there was a problem with the js or my ISP 
> server. Let me investigate.
> 
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Re: PESO Ivory silk, obverse

2013-07-07 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
>
> "The other side"
> 
> http://flic.kr/p/eVTxtn

This is a much more distinctive and memorable shot.  I'm ambivalent about
lighting the vase more; you probably will need to if you want anything
other than shadow for print (although you could probably just jack the
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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

2013-07-07 Thread Mark C

On 7/3/2013 12:32 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013, Mark C wrote:

I just used a low tech approach for the
damselfly and set the camera to continuous shooting, focused, and
then pivoted in and out as the frames snapped off.

So you had the focus locked and were moving the camera?  (Just making
sure I understand you correctly.)
Yep - that is exactly what I did. Camera was on a monopod so the motion 
was more of a pivot than a push, if that makes sense...


Mark

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RE: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Stunning work. I certainly don't see the flaws that you do, Mark. I can't 
imagine how they could be better.

I am not going to express this well but the last batch had an "artificial" look 
to them as if they were something other than photographs. They almost looked 
"drawn" or like computer reproductions or something. It's like they were 
hyper-real.

I don't get that sense with these ones. They're just spectacular photographs.

Book coming? These are National Geo. quality. They need to be seen by the 
masses. People need to see the beauty of nature.

Cheers,
frank 

--- Original Message ---

From: Mark C 
Sent: July 6, 2013 7/6/13
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Subject: GESO - Stack Focusing Dragonflies in the Field

I'm trying to get my insect photos up to the next level, and it seems 
like stack focusing is part of the process to do that. I worked on it 
yesterday with mixed results - still have a lot of stacks to go through. 
But here are the first:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2013/07/06/stack-focusing-dragonflies-in-the-field

All taken with Pentax K-5 and A*200 f4. No flash since I needed to grab 
a fast bunch of images to stack, and no way could the flash keep up.

All of these photos got flaws but maybe on a less windy day this will 
work out. C&C appreciated.

Mark


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Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

2013-07-07 Thread Alan C
Hi Mark. I wondered how you did it. You'll never make a magician, giving 
away tricks like that!


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark C

Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:42 PM
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Subject: Re: Dragonflies and Stack Focused Damselfly

On 7/3/2013 12:32 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013, Mark C wrote:

I just used a low tech approach for the
damselfly and set the camera to continuous shooting, focused, and
then pivoted in and out as the frames snapped off.

So you had the focus locked and were moving the camera?  (Just making
sure I understand you correctly.)

Yep - that is exactly what I did. Camera was on a monopod so the motion
was more of a pivot than a push, if that makes sense...

Mark

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Re: July PUG is up!!

2013-07-07 Thread Toralf Lund

On 07/07/13 17:16, Bruce Walker wrote:

Ann's "9th street Garage doggie" takes the (tempting) cake.

Paul's shot is really intriguing. It doesn't say Temptation to me, but
it does say KINKY in bright red neon letters. :-)

Maybe he's always found it tempting to post something like that on the PUG?

- T


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reflection in the blade.


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Re: Fwd: blockage of the virtual kind :-(

2013-07-07 Thread steve harley

on 2013-07-07 9:10 Paul Stenquist wrote

Ann is having problems posting.

Looks like she got on a spam list somehow.


looks like her ISP has been blacklisted, not her specifically; probably a large 
number of people are affected


Ann, you should forward one of those "blocked" messages to your ISP 
(Roadrunner?), as they should take responsibility for fixing it




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Re: Just when you thought it had gone away....

2013-07-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Does this mean my white one is now a collector's item???

On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>
> http://hypebeast.com/2013/7/pentax-revives-the-k-01-by-marc-newson
>
>
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>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: PESO Three Amigos

2013-07-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bruce,
Nice colors and balance of light.
I wish you had all the feet.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> The multiple hands is a little odd, but on the other hand, I like the
> unposed pose. And the louring sky is an excellent counterpoint
>
>
>
> On 3/07/2013 11:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>
>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>
>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>
>> More results coming later.
>>
>> --
>> -bmw
>>
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Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity

2013-07-07 Thread Larry Colen
Walt,

I have an idea, that is even crazier than most of mine.  

You don't need people to actually get married, to shoot a wedding.

To give you a chance to practice photographing a wedding, and as an 
excuse to have a fun party, get the word out to a bunch of your friends
that you want to stage a faux wedding and reception for you to practice
photographing.  For that matter, you could even have several couples.
Have them and their friends dress up, for whatever value of dress up
they feel like.  Set things up outside, because that is the most challenging.

And after you've photographed several couples go through their 
ceremonies, and it could be fun to see what they come up with as 
ceremonies, retire back to the bar for a potluck reception.

If there is anybody in your area looking to break into the wedding
business, food, flowers etc.  Invite them to contribute to the party
for the advertisement value.

In addition to some valuable practice, I bet you'd get some great photos,
potential portraiture subjects, and it would be a lot of fun.


On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 12:16:28PM -0500, Walt wrote:
> Thank you, Bruce.
> 
> Based on what I saw, I'd have to agree with your choice. She's
> pretty engaging (and easy on the eyes) -- though, I wouldn't want to
> be her stenographer. ;)
> 
> Welp! Time to start saving pennies again.
> 
> -- Walt
> 
> On 7/6/2013 11:52 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >I think your choice is between these three:
> >
> >http://www.creativelive.com/courses/jasmine_star
> >http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-workshop-zach-and-jody-gray
> >http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-photography-joe-buissink
> >
> >Were it me I'd likely go for the first, Ms. Star. It's also 5 days
> >worth and covers the most specifics.
> >
> >Watch the sample footage and see if you like how the instructor works.
> >Some of them turn me right off and I can't watch. Every one is
> >different. Some are so good I can't stop watching, even though I
> >generally dislike videos.
> >
> >While they're all aimed at a full-time pro wedding biz, there are lots
> >of tips and techniques for shooting in churches, the key moments to
> >watch for (ring exchange; bride preps, etc.).
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Walt  wrote:
> >>Thanks, Bruce.
> >>
> >>Are there any specific video courses that you'd recommend?
> >>
> >>(I don't know if it's an omen, but as I was typing the previous email, I
> >>went to take my second sip of my first cup of coffee, only to look down and
> >>discover that a fly had decided to end its life therein.)
> >>
> >>-- Walt
> >>
> >>
> >>On 7/6/2013 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>>I believe that the monetary returns on wedding shooting are
> >>>commensurate with the effort required. If you decide to go ahead with
> >>>it, you should be prepared to spend some money on some training -- at
> >>>the *very least* -- and I can recommend the Creative Live videos. They
> >>>range from $79 - $149 and you get up to 24 hours of video for that.
> >>>I've watched quite a few of these and even bought one package it was
> >>>so good.
> >>>
> >>>(They are free to watch live, but you have to have a _lot_ of free
> >>>time to watch an entire 3-day course live; 8 hours per day.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Walt  wrote:
> Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his
> home
> as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of
> charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist
> on
> compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there
> today
> and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work
> and
> time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the place
> is
> just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's
> proceeding nicely.
> 
> After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from
> him
> asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is
> getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm
> supposed
> to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the
> studio
> space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prospect. I've only
> done
> extremely informal wedding photos so far, and I'm not sure I'm up to the
> task. Still, I feel like I'd be a complete idiot to pass up the
> opportunity.
> I just want to make sure I'm not getting in over my head before I even
> have
> a chance to get off the ground.
> 
> It kind of makes me glad I'm going bald. At least no one will notice when
> I
> start pulling my hair out, or if it just decides to fall out on its own.
> 
> -- Walt
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Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity

2013-07-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt
In the ancient archives is a 3+ page wedding post,
maybe by Bill Robb, listing all the key pictures to take.
Visit this if you can find it.
As my kid's friends got married, I took pictures and
enjoyed offering them to the parents.  It's a painless
way to practice.  I did some of this on Friday.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Walt  wrote:
> Thanks for the advice, Paul!
>
> I'll refer to this when I talk to the bride today and will see what I can
> dig up on Google with regard to a checklist. I'm still not too sure I'll
> take the job, but if I do, this will be helpful.
>
> I'll probably avoid lobster, just in case. But the booze will be tough. ;)
>
> -- Walt
>
>
>
> On 7/6/2013 8:07 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>>
>> Walt -
>>
>> It sounds as though there are a lot of unknowns at this point.  A good
>> long talk with the bride to be should give you an idea of what she wants.
>> You need to know her expectations and results that she wants - CD, 8x10s,
>> album, books, etc.  Once you know what she wants then you can decide if it's
>> something you can deliver.
>>
>> What pixs does she want - of whom?  Who are the special people? Many times
>> these are the last photos of old folks before they die.
>>
>> Get a checklist and have her mark what pix she and the groom want.  If you
>> can't find anything by googling let me know and I'll get you a couple
>> samples.
>>
>> When it comes to what the bride, groom and their families want, get as
>> much in writing as possible.  A completed checklist signed by the bride (and
>> groom) is invaluable both as a reminder to you of what pix to take and as
>> something to point to when someone after the fact says "but you didn't get
>> that shot that I wanted". They also need to sign off on all the locations
>> and what time you are to be at each one.
>>
>> Know the venue.  Where are good shooting locations and what limitations
>> does the clergy have?  Sometimes it's not just a case of flash or no flash.
>> I had one minister tell me if he caught me taking *any* pix he'd stop the
>> ceremony and throw me out.  OTOH, a Russian Orthodox priest told me his only
>> restriction was that I couldn't stand up on the altar behind him.
>>
>> Have an agreement about what happens in the event something unforseen
>> happens and you can't do the shoot.  What if you are struck down by bad
>> lobster the night before the wedding?
>>
>> No alcohol for you...you're working!!!
>>
>> Then...have fun!
>>
>> Will let you know if I think of anything else.
>>
>> -p
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/6/2013 12:30 PM, Walt wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Stan.
>>>
>>> One of the reasons I'm so hesitant about this is that it's going to be
>>> in a setting of the type I've never, ever been in before. From what I
>>> gather, this is going to be a fairly swanky affair replete with bigwigs
>>> and such. So, I can't help feeling I'll be the proverbial turd in the
>>> punchbowl. The closest thing I've done to this was an awards banquet at
>>> the Olympic Club in SF -- back when I crashed on Larry's couch. I'd only
>>> been shooting a little over a year at the time, and I've learned a
>>> (relatively) huge amount since then. But, still . . .
>>>
>>> Thanks for the pointer on practicing flash technique. As for what the
>>> bride is expecting, as I understand it, she's going to want prints and
>>> an album -- likely even a book. I figure I can glean the overall
>>> aesthetic she's looking for based on what I see at the wedding itself --
>>> assuming I'm stupid enough to take on the challenge.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input. You've given me a good set of questions to ask the
>>> bride before making any kind of commitment. I'll have to sit down and
>>> come up with a list of others to ask, as well as a litany of reasons why
>>> she might consider someone who knows what the hell they're doing. ;)
>>>
>>> -- Walt
>>>
>>> On 7/6/2013 11:55 AM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 The little I know about wedding photography comes from reading this
 list plus watching the photographers at my own weddings. So, no
 specific advice, but if it were me, my preparation would probably
 involve a few aspects.

 First, read. (By coincidence this offer showed up in my in-box today.
 No clue if this is good, bad, or indifferent, but it is a reminder
 that there are resources out there:
 (

 http://www.peachpit.com/deals/?WT.mc_id=2013_July_6_PP_PBM_WeddingShots_EDOW_ends
 )
 Second, at least sample some of the web resources Bruce mentioned.
 Third, sit with the bride-to-be (and her mother if the mother is going
 to be influential throughout the process) and go through some of her
 friend's wedding albums, talking about what shots she (they)
 particularly want and expect to be in the eventual wedding album.
 Fourth, practice your flash technique in spaces similar to what you'll
 see before-during-after the wedding. If you only get proficient in
 using bounce-flash in 

Re: OT: Studio space enablement and an opportunity

2013-07-07 Thread Aahz Maruch
That sounds an awful lot like a stupid idea I had when I was single.  I
suggested to someone that because we were both single, we should have a
"practice date" on Valentine's Day.  Not surprisingly (or at least, not
surprisingly from a more mature perspective), it went over like a lead
balloon.

OTOH, we're together more than two decades later, so it wasn't completely
horrible, either...


On Sun, Jul 07, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> Walt,
> 
> I have an idea, that is even crazier than most of mine.  
> 
> You don't need people to actually get married, to shoot a wedding.
> 
> To give you a chance to practice photographing a wedding, and as an 
> excuse to have a fun party, get the word out to a bunch of your friends
> that you want to stage a faux wedding and reception for you to practice
> photographing.  For that matter, you could even have several couples.
> Have them and their friends dress up, for whatever value of dress up
> they feel like.  Set things up outside, because that is the most challenging.
> 
> And after you've photographed several couples go through their 
> ceremonies, and it could be fun to see what they come up with as 
> ceremonies, retire back to the bar for a potluck reception.
> 
> If there is anybody in your area looking to break into the wedding
> business, food, flowers etc.  Invite them to contribute to the party
> for the advertisement value.
> 
> In addition to some valuable practice, I bet you'd get some great photos,
> potential portraiture subjects, and it would be a lot of fun.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 12:16:28PM -0500, Walt wrote:
> > Thank you, Bruce.
> > 
> > Based on what I saw, I'd have to agree with your choice. She's
> > pretty engaging (and easy on the eyes) -- though, I wouldn't want to
> > be her stenographer. ;)
> > 
> > Welp! Time to start saving pennies again.
> > 
> > -- Walt
> > 
> > On 7/6/2013 11:52 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > >I think your choice is between these three:
> > >
> > >http://www.creativelive.com/courses/jasmine_star
> > >http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-workshop-zach-and-jody-gray
> > >http://www.creativelive.com/courses/wedding-photography-joe-buissink
> > >
> > >Were it me I'd likely go for the first, Ms. Star. It's also 5 days
> > >worth and covers the most specifics.
> > >
> > >Watch the sample footage and see if you like how the instructor works.
> > >Some of them turn me right off and I can't watch. Every one is
> > >different. Some are so good I can't stop watching, even though I
> > >generally dislike videos.
> > >
> > >While they're all aimed at a full-time pro wedding biz, there are lots
> > >of tips and techniques for shooting in churches, the key moments to
> > >watch for (ring exchange; bride preps, etc.).
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Walt  wrote:
> > >>Thanks, Bruce.
> > >>
> > >>Are there any specific video courses that you'd recommend?
> > >>
> > >>(I don't know if it's an omen, but as I was typing the previous email, I
> > >>went to take my second sip of my first cup of coffee, only to look down 
> > >>and
> > >>discover that a fly had decided to end its life therein.)
> > >>
> > >>-- Walt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On 7/6/2013 10:45 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> > >>>I believe that the monetary returns on wedding shooting are
> > >>>commensurate with the effort required. If you decide to go ahead with
> > >>>it, you should be prepared to spend some money on some training -- at
> > >>>the *very least* -- and I can recommend the Creative Live videos. They
> > >>>range from $79 - $149 and you get up to 24 hours of video for that.
> > >>>I've watched quite a few of these and even bought one package it was
> > >>>so good.
> > >>>
> > >>>(They are free to watch live, but you have to have a _lot_ of free
> > >>>time to watch an entire 3-day course live; 8 hours per day.)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Walt  wrote:
> > Well, I approached my friend Dan about using the unfinished area of his
> > home
> > as a studio, and he readily agreed (as expected) and wouldn't hear of
> > charging me for the use of it (again, as expected -- though, I'll insist
> > on
> > compensating him by hook or by crook). I'm supposed to go over there
> > today
> > and get started on the cleanup and preparation. It'll take a little work
> > and
> > time, but not a whole lot. As I mentioned on a previous thread, the 
> > place
> > is
> > just about ideal as a photography studio. So, as of now, everything's
> > proceeding nicely.
> > 
> > After I talked to him yesterday and left for work, I got an email from
> > him
> > asking if I'd be interested in shooting a wedding. Seems his sister is
> > getting married early this fall -- in Maine. At Walker's Point. I'm
> > supposed
> > to talk to her about it today when I go over to start working on the
> > studio
> > space. Needless to say, I'm a bit nervous about the prosp

Re: OT: Pictures of the Year International photojournalism contest

2013-07-07 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> http://www.kashmirprism.com/2013/04/pictures-of-year-70th-annual.html

Thanks!  Funny, to me a lot of them don't really seem much like good
photos in isolation, it's only the story that makes them interesting or
appealing.  (OTOH, many are just plain stunning.)
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Re: July PUG is up!!

2013-07-07 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> Ann's "9th street Garage doggie" takes the (tempting) cake.
> 
> Paul's shot is really intriguing. It doesn't say Temptation to me, but
> it does say KINKY in bright red neon letters. :-)  And I love the
> reflection in the blade.
> 
> 
Thanks Bruce. It's not meant to tempt the viewer, but rather it's a surreal 
tale of temptation. i shot it for a stock house that had requested kinky 
images, and it sold several times for ads and editorial. Bizarre stuff, no 
doubt:-). Had to submit it for the temptation theme. 
Paul

> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Brian Walters  
> wrote:
>> G'day all
>> 
>> A fairly small gallery this month and, as usual, you'll find it here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there)
>> 
>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
>> gallery, let me know.
>> 
>> +
>> 
>> We have an extra gallery for July:
>> 
>> 'Open Gallery' - closing date 20 July.  Quite a few submissions so far -
>> there's no theme, just submit an image you'd like to share.  What could be
>> easier?  :-)>
>> 
>> The August theme is 'Signs of the Times'.
>> 
>> 
>> Submit here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>> 
>> Submission Guidelines here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>> 
>> The main requirements are:
>> * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
>> * Max file size: 300k
>> * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
>> lens used is Pentax.
>> * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that
>> the image is displayed correctly on line.
>> 
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>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
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>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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>> 
>> ++
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Re: Peso Multi rose

2013-07-07 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, Christine Aguila wrote:
> On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:28 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17440141
>>> 
>>> Having a lot of rain lately, so flowers and water drops are not hard
>>> to get. Just wondering if the bit of grass off to the right is to much
>>> of a distraction.
>>
>> A beautiful bloom, Dave. Looks just like a Joseph's Coat to me.
>> 
>> The grass itself doesn't bother me though I'd darken it some, myself.
>> I just think that the bloom seems a bit crowded in the frame -- could
>> use space below it. If you shot this as portrait with the flower high,
>> maybe. Just analyzing out loud. :-)
>
> I agree a bit with Bruce.  Maybe it's my eyes, but the piece of grass
> on the right seems sharper than the flower.  Cheers, Christine

You're right, the grass is sharper.  Not sure why, I suspect the focus
is on the base of the petals (if you look at the bottom-right petal,
which is in about the same focal plane as most of the grass, that is
significantly sharper than the other petals; in addition, the top of the
blade of grass seems out of focus).

I'm also wondering if maybe there's a blown red highlight because of the
lack of detail upper-left petal (but that could be just focus).
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Re: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

2013-07-07 Thread DagT
So true, and after 15 years my wide suddenly concluded that photography was 
fairly inexpensive compared to a lot of other things. Like cars, cottages in 
the mountains, boats, horses, sport (like cycling which she is interested in).

After revisiting another old interest, stereo equipment, because my 
loudspeakers had to be replaced I have to agree. People are buying loudspeakers 
for the price of a 645d and it seams perfectly normal. You are never even able 
to be any good at it, as you can be with a camera or an instrument.

DagT

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Den 7. juli 2013 kl. 13:02 skrev "Gerrit Visser" :

> I would summarize it this way after owning an old Ferrari for 10 years and
> before that several sailboats. Hobbies are hobbies, they make no financial
> sense but emotionally the expenses bring priceless rewards. 
> Hobbies are an investment in your happiness.
> 
> gerrit
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin Gupta
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 12:01 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)
> 
> Aahz Sir, my son went thru the same thought process, namely:
> a) Prefer a compact camera with some capability of a DSLR
> b) Viewfinder not essential- comfortable with LCD.
> c) DSLR size like my K-5 a big NO.
> d) Money not a very big issue - can spend up to CAD 650
> e) Decent video capability as an add on.
> He borrowed a friends Nikon D5200, but returned it the same day.
> He than got the Sony Nex-5R CAD 570 with the 18-55 lens and the Nex-3N CAD
> 400 with the 16-50 Lens.
> After extensive tests and general feel of the cameras, he kept the Nex-3N.
> These Nex's have an APS-C sensor. Pretty impressive too as per DxO mark.
> And Aahz I wouldn't bother too much about Hobby Cost, as just holding a
> camera gives me immense pleasure and happiness. Do ring in this stress
> busting calculation into the costing. And I don't even make money with my
> hobby.
> I too waited and waited for the "right technology". Bought a Minolta bridge
> digital camera in 2003, till my daughter gave me a K20D in 2009. She said,
> hey Papa, technology will keep overtaking you, get it now.
> So why wait for another 5 or 10 years - a $ now may be 10 times in your
> technology future.
> Just my 2-cents, from a wise spender, a master mechanic and all things
> photographic buzz; ah! and I forget, a retired old fart of an Advisor in the
> worlds biggest conglomerate.
> Doesn't sound like a free sermon I hope?
> Regards.
> Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
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PAW183 - Clouds

2013-07-07 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, FA77mm, 1/250s, f/14, ISO100, 

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Re: GESO: Boston fireworks

2013-07-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
David,
Spectacular shots, great vantage point.
Like the sharp ones better than the blurry catches.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157634499838037/
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> Took these last night during Boston's 4th of July festivities.
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Available model photography

2013-07-07 Thread Larry Colen
Certain topics of discussion tend to get a lot of attention in photography
fora, equipment, lighting, composition, and occasionally even things that 
you can do to improve your skill as a photographer. Models don't get a lot 
of discussion beyond "Where can I find someone willing to pose for me for 
free?".

I've been working for a while on the concept of making my subjects feel more
comfortable in front of the camera, but I'm realizing that it is just part
of the bigger question of how to teach your subjects to be better at 
modeling. So, first, I will pose (heh!) this question:
"What to people need to be taught to enable the photographer to get better
pictures of them?"

I can see answers ranging from "The model doesn't need to understand anything,
it's the photographer's job to know all that and just tell the model what to 
do" to "It's good for the model to understand at least the basics of how
certain poses and their position relative to the light affect their appearance".

I started out from the premise of "Photo sessions for the shy", and here is
what I wrote on the subject of making people feel comfortable in front of the
camera.  I would greatly appreciate feedback, suggestions and further 
ideas for future iterations on these topics:

For many, if not most, people, the idea of a photo shoot is both enticing
and intimidating. If you are like most people, you do not have any photos
of your self that are not horrible, which makes the thought of good photos
seem at best, a pleasant fantasy.

How many of the photos of you were taken by someone shoving a point and shoot
camera (or a cellphone) in your face, and then berating you for not smiling?
Even most movie stars are not going to look good in those conditions. Even
apart from the technical limitiations of the camera, the background will
probably be cluttered, the lighting bad, and very few people can give a
genuine, relaxed smile in those conditions.

One very important thing to keep in mind is that a good photograph of
you is not necessarily one that makes you look like a movie star. For me
a good photograph of someone is a beautiful photo, that looks like the
person being photographed.

The most important aspect of getting a good photograph of someone is
getting them to relax. It is hard to relax, however, when just about
every photo that has been taken of you sucks. What this means is that
the first step in getting good photos of someone, is to take, and show
them, photos of themself that simply do not suck.

Photos that don't suck start with basic technical details.
Making sure that the background is appropriate,
and not cluttered or distracting, decent lighting, correct exposure
and proper focus. There are shelves worth of books on this subject.

The next step is to take pictures where you don't do any of the things that
are pretty much guaranteed to make a photo of someone suck:
Don't insist that they smile, few things look worse than the rictus of a
forced smile.
Don't berate them for doing things wrong.
Don't criticize their appearance.

There are some things you can do to help them look good:
Be friendly, and accepting.
Give them constructive feedback, on what they are doing well, as what they 
could do better.
Give them advice and suggestions on how to pose. If they knew what to do, 
they'd already have good pictures of themselves.
The advent of digital photography, however, makes two things possible that do 
more than just about anything else to help get pictures that don't suck of 
someone.
It is possible to take hundreds of photos in a sitting. If you take a couple 
hundred pictures of just about anyone you are almost guaranteed to get at least 
a few where they don't have a stupid expression on their face.
The other advantage of digital photography is the near instant feedback.
After shooting for half an hour, you can load the photos on the computer, and 
review them. Ideally, the photographer would go through and throw out the worst 
clinkers first, but there is rarely time for that. Looking through the photos, 
gives the subject a chance to see photos of them that are not only not bad, but 
probably pretty good. There is a good chance that even mediocre will be better 
than any photos they have of themselves.
If you don't believe me, look at what people put on their profiles on dating 
sites. It makes sense that they're going to use the best that they have, and 
most profile photos seriously suck.
The other advantage of the review session, and it's important to stress this, 
is that it gives the subject to learn what does, and doesn't work.
Between being more relaxed, and having a better idea of what to do, the second
set of photos, tends to be a lot better, very few will suck, and many will 
actually be good.
The third set is where the magic often really starts happening. The subject is 
excited about getting good shots, is learning how to pose, and the photographer 
and the model start developing a rapport, and creativity can star

PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I don't know if that's really what baby grebes are called; I guess I should 
look it up.

So the excitement is that for the first time that anyone remembers the local 
red necked grebe eggs have hatched and no less than five baby grebes have been 
spotted around the lakeside park near my apartment!

I was thrilled to spot this parent feeding a little one:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/feeding-time-for-grebelings.html?m=1

It was a one shot deal. The next dive the parent came up quite far away and the 
little one drifted over, out of my range. I did continue shooting but they were 
too small and blurry. I watched with fascination for half an hour while mom or 
dad (don't know which) performed dive after dive, coming up with a small fish 
each time for baby. Then they retired to their nest.

So this isn't the sharpest shot ever, but it was the only one I got. As a 
document it's okay, but not a great nature photo, to very sure.

Still, I hope you enjoy it. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO - Sorry We're Closed

2013-07-07 Thread Marco Alpert
Hi Christine,

A *very* belated thanks for your comments and taking the time to look at my 
other stuff. Much appreciated.

   -Marco


On Jun 25, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> Hi Marco:  I think this one is a bit cluttered, but I did have a look at some 
> of your other work on your page, and you have some nice stuff there.  I 
> really liked the gallery "Contract Seating."  Lots of fun there.  Also, the 
> street portrait of the Asian man was very striking.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 06, 2013, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso4.html
>>> 
>>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
> 


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Re: PAW183 - Clouds

2013-07-07 Thread Philip Northeast

that's special

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 8/07/13 7:36 AM, DagT wrote:

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, FA77mm, 1/250s, f/14, ISO100,

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RE: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

2013-07-07 Thread Gerrit Visser
That is lovely, almost moving! And a calm day for once.


I think we had a picnic in the same basin on June 20. Only saw 2 little ones
at the time. One was on dad's back but fell off when dad climbed onto the
nest.

gerrit



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Subject: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

I don't know if that's really what baby grebes are called; I guess I should
look it up.

So the excitement is that for the first time that anyone remembers the local
red necked grebe eggs have hatched and no less than five baby grebes have
been spotted around the lakeside park near my apartment!

I was thrilled to spot this parent feeding a little one:

 
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/feeding-time-for-grebelings.html?m
=1

It was a one shot deal. The next dive the parent came up quite far away and
the little one drifted over, out of my range. I did continue shooting but
they were too small and blurry. I watched with fascination for half an hour
while mom or dad (don't know which) performed dive after dive, coming up
with a small fish each time for baby. Then they retired to their nest.

So this isn't the sharpest shot ever, but it was the only one I got. As a
document it's okay, but not a great nature photo, to very sure.

Still, I hope you enjoy it. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO Three Amigos

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Re feet: you and me both, Bob! Sigh. There's always one more thing to
check in the viewfinder. :-)

Thanks!

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Bruce,
> Nice colors and balance of light.
> I wish you had all the feet.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>>
>> The multiple hands is a little odd, but on the other hand, I like the
>> unposed pose. And the louring sky is an excellent counterpoint
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/07/2013 11:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Had a really fun practice shoot this past Sunday evening with my wife
>>> and our artist friends, very informal and arranged so I could get some
>>> air time with location lighting gear.
>>>
>>> I'm newly enabled with a Westcott Apollo Medium (28") softbox, picked
>>> up Saturday, and I can now heartily endorse that kit after two
>>> two-hour shoots and various playing about in my office studio. It
>>> folds and mounts like an umbrella, is very light weight, and is an
>>> amazingly efficient light source. It does act like a sail though and
>>> very nearly blew over despite a 20 or 30 pound weight on its stand. I
>>> need to refine my sandbagging technique.
>>>
>>> I concentrated on individual portraiture with varying mixes of ambient
>>> light, but I also did a few quick (meaning not well posed) group shots
>>> just to see how that'd work. This one really grabbed me ...
>>>
>>> http://flic.kr/p/f1KeGj
>>>
>>> K20D, DA* 16-50mm/2.8, F5.6, 1/160th, ISO 400.
>>> AF540FGZ on wireless trigger in Apollo 28" softbox; gelled with Rosco
>>> #02: Bastard Straw.
>>> Lr & Nik Suite.
>>>
>>> More results coming later.
>>>
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Re: PESO Ivory silk, obverse

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> "The other side"
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/eVTxtn
>
> This is a much more distinctive and memorable shot.  I'm ambivalent about
> lighting the vase more; you probably will need to if you want anything
> other than shadow for print (although you could probably just jack the
> shadows a bit in your editor).

I did print this (on a digital press) and indeed the vase ended up
very dark. But I attribute that mostly to lacking a proper profile for
that printer. I'm going to get a printer-capable colorimeter one of
these days.

Thanks, Aahz.

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PESO - The Kiss

2013-07-07 Thread Marco Alpert
http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso8.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Nonsense, it's a really fine shot, Frank. Sharp enough and I just love
the rippled reflections. It's a  wonderful moment and excellent
documentation of a rare event.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I don't know if that's really what baby grebes are called; I guess I should 
> look it up.
>
> So the excitement is that for the first time that anyone remembers the local 
> red necked grebe eggs have hatched and no less than five baby grebes have 
> been spotted around the lakeside park near my apartment!
>
> I was thrilled to spot this parent feeding a little one:
>
>  
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/feeding-time-for-grebelings.html?m=1
>
> It was a one shot deal. The next dive the parent came up quite far away and 
> the little one drifted over, out of my range. I did continue shooting but 
> they were too small and blurry. I watched with fascination for half an hour 
> while mom or dad (don't know which) performed dive after dive, coming up with 
> a small fish each time for baby. Then they retired to their nest.
>
> So this isn't the sharpest shot ever, but it was the only one I got. As a 
> document it's okay, but not a great nature photo, to very sure.
>
> Still, I hope you enjoy it. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO - The Kiss

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
That's great, Marco! There's enough going on there to wonder what's
going on there and it gave me a good chuckle.

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Re: PAW183 - Clouds

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Fabulous how that looks like a graphic composite yet it's clearly a
photo. Well done, Dag!

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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson 
University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times 
change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good 
photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week 
provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that 
walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?

Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much 
they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall. 

One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds like 
an opportunity to revive TOPDML.

;-)

Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank



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Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Superb Frank!

Chris

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> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
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RE: PESO - Urban Photography

2013-07-07 Thread Gerrit Visser
there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)

Gerrit

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Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?

Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall. 

One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.

;-)

Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank



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Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Superb Frank!

Chris

On 5 July 2013 04:06, knarftheria...@gmail.com 
wrote:
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>
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>
> Cheers,
> frank
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RE: PESO - Urban Photography

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Active members would be you, Bruce, Dave Brooks and me. Am I missing anyone? 
Apologies if I am.

Members have come and gone over the years with Dave and I being constant for 
twelve or thirteen years.

We should get together. Bruce's upcoming event would be nice but I'm still 
unsure I can make it.

Otherwise we should arrange something...

Cheers,
frank

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Subject: RE: PESO - Urban Photography

there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)

Gerrit

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Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?

Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall. 

One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.

;-)

Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.

Cheers,
frank



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From: Chris Mitchell 
Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Superb Frank!

Chris

On 5 July 2013 04:06, knarftheria...@gmail.com 
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> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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RE: PAW183 - Clouds

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
You have such a unique and individual style! This is beautiful.

Cheers,
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http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, FA77mm, 1/250s, f/14, ISO100, 

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RE: PESO - The Kiss

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Not what I expected. Made me smile. 

Wonderful!

Cheers,
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From: Marco Alpert 
Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
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Subject: PESO - The Kiss

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo13/peso8.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: PESO - The Kiss

2013-07-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Interesting and mysterious.
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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

2013-07-07 Thread Bruce Walker
Frank: Fernando Terrazzino and Adam Maas (Mawz) may be lurking still.

We could meet up just about anywhere in TO. Our group is so small we
could meet in a phone booth and not pack the joint. :-)

It'd be great if you could make it out to my little do at The Grange
House in Mississauga. I could give you a lift if you will be in south
Etobicoke or Kipling subway circa 6 PM.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Active members would be you, Bruce, Dave Brooks and me. Am I missing anyone? 
> Apologies if I am.
>
> Members have come and gone over the years with Dave and I being constant for 
> twelve or thirteen years.
>
> We should get together. Bruce's upcoming event would be nice but I'm still 
> unsure I can make it.
>
> Otherwise we should arrange something...
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Gerrit Visser 
> Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:27 PM
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
> University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
> change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
> photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
> provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
> walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?
>
> Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
> they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall.
>
> One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
> like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.
>
> ;-)
>
> Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Chris Mitchell 
> Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Superb Frank!
>
> Chris
>
> On 5 July 2013 04:06, knarftheria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
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Re: PESO - Feeding Time for Grebelings

2013-07-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
What a great catch, Frank.  It is a render family scene, wonderfully
composed, and the patterns and reflections make it even more special.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I don't know if that's really what baby grebes are called; I guess I should 
> look it up.
>
> So the excitement is that for the first time that anyone remembers the local 
> red necked grebe eggs have hatched and no less than five baby grebes have 
> been spotted around the lakeside park near my apartment!
>
> I was thrilled to spot this parent feeding a little one:
>
>  
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/feeding-time-for-grebelings.html?m=1
>
> It was a one shot deal. The next dive the parent came up quite far away and 
> the little one drifted over, out of my range. I did continue shooting but 
> they were too small and blurry. I watched with fascination for half an hour 
> while mom or dad (don't know which) performed dive after dive, coming up with 
> a small fish each time for baby. Then they retired to their nest.
>
> So this isn't the sharpest shot ever, but it was the only one I got. As a 
> document it's okay, but not a great nature photo, to very sure.
>
> Still, I hope you enjoy it. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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PESO -- Toothy Grin

2013-07-07 Thread P.J. Alling

Didn't shoot a lot over the Forth of July weekend.  Mostly crap like this...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20toothygrin.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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Re: PESO - Urban Photography

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Usually I would just be leaving work (401/Dixie) at 6, but this Tuesday I have 
an appointment a few blocks from my place at 5, should be done at 6. 

Let me talk with Judy, she would enjoy this. Might be an opportunity for us to 
soak up some Mississauga culture! 

I'll let you know...

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Bruce Walker 
Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography

Frank: Fernando Terrazzino and Adam Maas (Mawz) may be lurking still.

We could meet up just about anywhere in TO. Our group is so small we
could meet in a phone booth and not pack the joint. :-)

It'd be great if you could make it out to my little do at The Grange
House in Mississauga. I could give you a lift if you will be in south
Etobicoke or Kipling subway circa 6 PM.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:47 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Active members would be you, Bruce, Dave Brooks and me. Am I missing anyone? 
> Apologies if I am.
>
> Members have come and gone over the years with Dave and I being constant for 
> twelve or thirteen years.
>
> We should get together. Bruce's upcoming event would be nice but I'm still 
> unsure I can make it.
>
> Otherwise we should arrange something...
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Gerrit Visser 
> Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> there must be 4 or 5 of us by now :-)
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 7:27 PM
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Thanks, Chris. Those photos are part of the main building for Ryerson
> University's School of Imaging Arts (formerly School of Photography; times
> change). I walk by it from time to time and always thought there was a good
> photo opportunity somewhere there and the gentleman sitting there last week
> provided that opportunity. There were a couple of interesting photos on that
> walk that I had to crop out for compositional reasons but what can you do?
>
> Apparently they have a most impressive archive there. I don't know how much
> they have on display but I certainly like what's on the wall.
>
> One of these days I'll have to check it out and report to the list. Sounds
> like an opportunity to revive TOPDML.
>
> ;-)
>
> Thanks to all who commented and looked. Glad you enjoyed.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Chris Mitchell 
> Sent: July 5, 2013 7/5/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Urban Photography
>
> Superb Frank!
>
> Chris
>
> On 5 July 2013 04:06, knarftheria...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/07/urban-photography.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
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RE: PESO -- Toothy Grin

2013-07-07 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I like this!

I think it's because of the strong composition; it really works for me. And 
it's whimsical. I like whimsical.

Cheers,
frank

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From: "P.J. Alling" 
Sent: July 7, 2013 7/7/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESO -- Toothy Grin

Didn't shoot a lot over the Forth of July weekend.  Mostly crap like this...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20toothygrin.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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Test: Can you see me now?

2013-07-07 Thread John
I've had to jump through a few hoops, but I hope I'm back on list now, 
subscribed through Yahoo. Here's what's happening as far as I know.


For some reason an organization called SpamCop blacklisted ALL of 
RoadRunner's SMTP mail servers NATION-WIDE by their IP addresses.


Apparently the list server for PDML subscribes to SpamCop's blacklists, 
so any list mail coming from a RoadRunner server is getting bounced as 
550 - Rejected Junkmail.


Ann Sanfedele & I are the two subscribers I know who use RoadRunner, so 
we can't send to the list from our RoadRunner email accounts. We can 
both still receive list emails.


I've been on the phone with RoadRunner tech support & once you get above 
Tier 1 they do seem to have a clue.  It took the first Tier 2 guy I 
dealt with only a few minutes to figure out this is a big problem & to 
escalate it on up the line. My last contact indicated it was being 
escalated up to RoadRunner's national operations center.


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Re: Calculating Hobby Cost (Re: Bracketing on the K5)

2013-07-07 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Jul 07, 2013, Bipin Gupta wrote:
>
> And Aahz I wouldn't bother too much about Hobby Cost, as just holding
> a camera gives me immense pleasure and happiness. Do ring in this
> stress busting calculation into the costing. And I don't even make money
> with my hobby.

Holding cameras gives me pleasure; carrying them around, not so much.
And that's really the whole point: I'm not sure if I'm willing to carry
a big camera and lenses around.  Let's try another variation of my
calculation:

If I got the $3200 "base kit" and restrain my LBA, used the kit for
twelve hours the first year and four hours each of the following two
years, that's $3200/20 or $160/hour.  That's a lot of money I could have
used for something else.  I certainly don't have enough money to just
throw it around.

I'm also suspicious that buying into a system would cause me to indulge
my LBA, which would vastly increase the number of hours required to "pay
off" the purchase.  (Bigma, 35mm/2.6 macro, DA* 16-50, 50/1.4...)  One
advantage of m4/3 is that there's actually less scope for indulging LBA.
;-)

> I too waited and waited for the "right technology". Bought a Minolta bridge
> digital camera in 2003, till my daughter gave me a K20D in 2009. She said,
> hey Papa, technology will keep overtaking you, get it now.
> So why wait for another 5 or 10 years - a $ now may be 10 times in your
> technology future.

I'm not waiting for the right technology, it's already here (more or
less).  I'm waiting to figure out if I want to spend the money; more
precisely, I'm trying to decide whether spending the money would be
worthwhile.

> Just my 2-cents, from a wise spender, a master mechanic and all things
> photographic buzz; ah! and I forget, a retired old fart of an Advisor
> in the worlds biggest conglomerate.  Doesn't sound like a free sermon
> I hope?

It does, but I don't mind; I like cross-checking my thinking as long as
other people are reasonably respectful of my opinions.
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Re: Test: Can you see me now?

2013-07-07 Thread Brian Walters

Yep.

Cheers

Brian

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Quoting John :

I've had to jump through a few hoops, but I hope I'm back on list  
now, subscribed through Yahoo. Here's what's happening as far as I  
know.


For some reason an organization called SpamCop blacklisted ALL of  
RoadRunner's SMTP mail servers NATION-WIDE by their IP addresses.


Apparently the list server for PDML subscribes to SpamCop's  
blacklists, so any list mail coming from a RoadRunner server is  
getting bounced as 550 - Rejected Junkmail.


Ann Sanfedele & I are the two subscribers I know who use RoadRunner,  
so we can't send to the list from our RoadRunner email accounts. We  
can both still receive list emails.


I've been on the phone with RoadRunner tech support & once you get  
above Tier 1 they do seem to have a clue.  It took the first Tier 2  
guy I dealt with only a few minutes to figure out this is a big  
problem & to escalate it on up the line. My last contact indicated  
it was being escalated up to RoadRunner's national operations center.


I don't know how long it's going to take them to get it resolved.



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PESO: A Lively Discussion

2013-07-07 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17453605
Comments are invited.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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