Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks, Darren! Much appreciated! Mark On 10/13/2014 8:06 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I absolutely love that. That would be a big print on a wall in my house, if I had taken it. Very Eliot Porter. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very nice. Pleasing in a range of ways. Paul via phone On Oct 13, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks Tim - I did bump saturation a wee bit on that one. I will try fine tuning things when / if I make a print. Thanks for the suggestion! Mark On 10/13/2014 8:40 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Very nice. I suspect you might have bumped the vibrancy or saturation slider just a leeetle bit? Either way, I might back off on the green saturation just a bit. On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Disappointed by BH - Printer Cartridges with Less than 1yr until Expiration
Well I just got a k-3 with an off plane sensor from Adorama. No way to return it until they reopen on Sunday. Grrr. We can share in our disappointment! ;) On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Igor, I have had similar problems with Amazon and ebay where I order 3-sets of the BW Color Cartridges each. And my situation is worse than yours as I come from Bangalore, India (visit my kids in Canada the US about every two years), Cartridge prices used to be much higher in India than the US (thanks God prices have come down since a year now). So I stash them in my Fridge (not the Freezer) after sealing them in air tight containers. Used even past 2 years of the expiry date I have not had any problems. Agreed a seller - like BH - should ship cartridges with at least 1 year expiry date - but do we have such dilligent Pickers and Packers in large Warehouses any where?? I worked in one of the biggest conglomerate in the world and can tell you we often shipped batteries tyres past their expiry dates because someone in the Warehouse forgets to comply with the golden WH rule FIFO (first in first out). And a bad tyre can cost a life. My God!! I bring some medicines with me from India for my children here as they are half to one-tenth the price in the US. And I take care that they have long expiry dates, as my next visit would be in about 2 years. Thanks for reading. Bipin. camp: Thornhill, Ontario. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selfie with Aurora
Thanks for looking/commenting, everyone. Since the crop was already harvested from the field, I did my best to resemble a... uhhh... uni-corn... Jostein Den 13. oktober 2014 10:04:37 CEST, skrev Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com: Very impressive. That torch is very effective at lighting up the night sky. You must have good batteries. B On 13 Oct 2014, at 06:04, Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: Since doing selfies is all the rage these days, I posed with Aurora the other night. https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/15219707752/in/photostream/lightbox/ :-) Jostein -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2014 - The Cars of All Italian Day (248-260) - GDG
Cool images. I haven't seen a Lancia for a while, certainly none of the latest models. What is that strange car below the Alfa on the right? Looks like a track car with mudguards added! Alan C -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:40 AM To: PAW Picture-A-Week project ; PDML List ; SeePhoto Talk ; BAPhotoShooters BAPA Subject: GESO 2014 - The Cars of All Italian Day (248-260) - GDG A glorious and beautiful October day in Alameda brought out a bunch of beautiful Italian cars and motorcycles to show. https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5hbase This is one of my favorite events of the year, and not just for the cars. Lots of good folks, having a good time, donating time and good will to raise money for the Special Olympics kids. Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. G Mars is the only known planet inhabited entirely by robots. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Selfie with Aurora
Very clever! The night sky is amazingly clear. Iv'e never seen the Aurora but have seen Ursa Major low down on the horizon. Alan C -Original Message- From: Jostein Øksne Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Selfie with Aurora Since doing selfies is all the rage these days, I posed with Aurora the other night. https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/15219707752/in/photostream/lightbox/ :-) Jostein --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Just a couple other thoughts about this remarkable composition... I think that Mark is being quite modest in calling this As Found (and of course, attempting to derail any thoughts that he might have arranged anything). Frankly, I wouldn't care if he had: Photography is often in seeing the possibilities and presenting things (like people at a wedding, for example) at their best. derailAnyone who has photographed people professionally knows that if you do it passively - photojournalist style - you aren't going to get the best results. Small things like the amount and direction a head is tilted, or providing something better to do with the clasped hands (fig leafs) that people often automatically assume when a camera is pointed at them, these things are directorial with the goal of presenting a better (and, counter-intuitively, often a more natural-looking photograph). Most still life images painted the masters was probably not as found and I doubt that we care or give them bonus points for never touching or adjusting anything within the composition. Secondly, a composition on the ground, like this one, still did not automatically create a good image. The photographer still had choices to make. Even if one chooses to say that the directly overhead point of view was a no-brainer there were choices that the photographer had to make on how much of the scene to include or crop out. He also has the choice of making it a horizontal or vertical composition (or square, even). And he has the freedom to orient the camera in any one of 360 degrees while pointing down. It would be an interesting experiment to take a group of photographers and (without them seeing the others had done) assign them to photograph this same patch of ground. I doubt that any two of them are going to come away with the exact same image of the scene. Thirdly, after Tim Bray's comments I went back and looked at the image again. I can see that the saturation might have been bumped a little but I don't see this as a problem. It does not look unnatural to me, although I realize that this is subjective and different photographers may draw the line in different places. I normally look at the white areas in an image to judge if the color cast is off in any direction and the whites do not appear to have any sort of greenish cast to my eyes. In short, I really, really like everything about this image and I'm quite glad that Mark's eyes were open to the possibility when it presented itself. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Reflections
Indeed. Great images of classic architecture. Too good to nitpick. Alan C --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2014 - The Cars of All Italian Day (248-260) - GDG
Thanks to everyone who's looked and commented. :-) Alan: I'm presuming you mean this one, #255: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/15524091155/in/set-72157648709231621 That's a Ciata or Siata (… sp?) GP car outfitted for homologation racing with lights and fenders, etc, according to the owner. He had some literature on it there, I should have snapped a few photos of it. I've been trying to find references to it but haven't come up with anything yet. It's very tiny, very pretty. I owned and loved several Alfa Romeos, as well as a couple of FIATs, a Lamborghini, and a Ferrari (very briefly) over the years. But wandering the show every year since the early 1990s, what I'd really love if I wanted to get back into owning another older Italian car is one of the Lancia Fulvia coupes, like the gray one featured in the first three photos of the set. Not the performance prepped one, just the standard like the gray one. They're so trim and clean of line, and they're comfortable, responsive, and wonderful to drive. Friend of mine had one and I only got to drive it once … it made a lasting impression! G On Oct 14, 2014, at 6:04 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: Cool images. I haven't seen a Lancia for a while, certainly none of the latest models. What is that strange car below the Alfa on the right? Looks like a track car with mudguards added! Alan C https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5hbase -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
MAIL PROBLEMS
Help! Any replies to posts are being returned as Unsolicited Bulk Mail. (Only to PDML). I have to strip the original mails to get the replies through. Any ideas? Alan C --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-3 with off plane sensor from Adorama
Sorry to hear this Zos. Such things kill the moment of joy enthusiasm. How sad!?? But some camera stores are known to ship returns w/o inspecting them. Only a rather severe jolt in the box can move the sensor plane off center. You deserve a special add on offer from Adorama with a Brand New K-3. Please do check the shutter actuations using the website on the Pentax Forum. Whenever I receive a package or a carton with the sides crushed as if from a drop or a severe gash on it, I make it a point to mention this on the Delivery Order or through an email. Good Luck for a better K-3 this time. Regards. Bipin. camp: Thornhill, Ontario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Very nice as posted mark. -Original Message- From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
It's quite one thing to arrange people in a wedding party and an entirely different thing to arrange things in nature to suit your tastes. Doing this in nature I'd say is dishonest IMO. I've come across scenes in nature and photographed them 'as found' numerous time - its really a matter of being alert and looking for them. That said I believe that this image was 'as found' as Mark stated and the colors look quite natural to me. -Original Message- From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 14, 2014 9:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Just a couple other thoughts about this remarkable composition... I think that Mark is being quite modest in calling this As Found (and of course, attempting to derail any thoughts that he might have arranged anything). Frankly, I wouldn't care if he had: Photography is often in seeing the possibilities and presenting things (like people at a wedding, for example) at their best. derailAnyone who has photographed people professionally knows that if you do it passively - photojournalist style - you aren't going to get the best results. Small things like the amount and direction a head is tilted, or providing something better to do with the clasped hands (fig leafs) that people often automatically assume when a camera is pointed at them, these things are directorial with the goal of presenting a better (and, counter-intuitively, often a more natural-looking photograph). Most still life images painted the masters was probably not as found and I doubt that we care or give them bonus points for never touching or adjusting anything within the composition. Secondly, a composition on the ground, like this one, still did not automatically create a good image. The photographer still had choices to make. Even if one chooses to say that the directly overhead point of view was a no-brainer there were choices that the photographer had to make on how much of the scene to include or crop out. He also has the choice of making it a horizontal or vertical composition (or square, even). And he has the freedom to orient the camera in any one of 360 degrees while pointing down. It would be an interesting experiment to take a group of photographers and (without them seeing the others had done) assign them to photograph this same patch of ground. I doubt that any two of them are going to come away with the exact same image of the scene. Thirdly, after Tim Bray's comments I went back and looked at the image again. I can see that the saturation might have been bumped a little but I don't see this as a problem. It does not look unnatural to me, although I realize that this is subjective and different photographers may draw the line in different places. I normally look at the white areas in an image to judge if the color cast is off in any direction and the whites do not appear to have any sort of greenish cast to my eyes. In short, I really, really like everything about this image and I'm quite glad that Mark's eyes were open to the possibility when it presented itself. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Darren, After a while, you'll come to realize Mark is a master artist. His photos inspire me and humble me. It looks effortless, but is deceptively so. Now I've got to get out and practice... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Just a couple other thoughts about this remarkable composition... I think that Mark is being quite modest in calling this As Found (and of course, attempting to derail any thoughts that he might have arranged anything). Frankly, I wouldn't care if he had: Photography is often in seeing the possibilities and presenting things (like people at a wedding, for example) at their best. derailAnyone who has photographed people professionally knows that if you do it passively - photojournalist style - you aren't going to get the best results. Small things like the amount and direction a head is tilted, or providing something better to do with the clasped hands (fig leafs) that people often automatically assume when a camera is pointed at them, these things are directorial with the goal of presenting a better (and, counter-intuitively, often a more natural-looking photograph). Most still life images painted the masters was probably not as found and I doubt that we care or give them bonus points for never touching or adjusting anything within the composition. Secondly, a composition on the ground, like this one, still did not automatically create a good image. The photographer still had choices to make. Even if one chooses to say that the directly overhead point of view was a no-brainer there were choices that the photographer had to make on how much of the scene to include or crop out. He also has the choice of making it a horizontal or vertical composition (or square, even). And he has the freedom to orient the camera in any one of 360 degrees while pointing down. It would be an interesting experiment to take a group of photographers and (without them seeing the others had done) assign them to photograph this same patch of ground. I doubt that any two of them are going to come away with the exact same image of the scene. Thirdly, after Tim Bray's comments I went back and looked at the image again. I can see that the saturation might have been bumped a little but I don't see this as a problem. It does not look unnatural to me, although I realize that this is subjective and different photographers may draw the line in different places. I normally look at the white areas in an image to judge if the color cast is off in any direction and the whites do not appear to have any sort of greenish cast to my eyes. In short, I really, really like everything about this image and I'm quite glad that Mark's eyes were open to the possibility when it presented itself. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Art Appreciation
Great indoor street shot. Good timing of the shot. On 10/14/14, 8:14 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Art Appreciation http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17881549 K-5 IIs, DA 1:2.8 35mm Macro Limited Commented are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Disappointed by BH - printer cartridges with less than 1yr until expiration
Igor, don't worry about it. Inkjet cartridges always last much longer than the expiration date indicates. Usually years longer. BH can only sell what Epson provides them and for an obsolete printer that is often from an earlier production run. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
to me AS FOUND just means to me he didn't move anything.. except himself and his camera... OTOH I don't think it would have been dishonest to photograph and show this if he had nudged the leaf a bit to the right or left to improve the composition - only _dishonest_ if he called it as found Ken, I don't think anyone thought Mark didn't find it as shown - I hope my joking comments didn't contribute to you feeling you had to defend him :-) But I will say that when shooting closeups of flora in the wild I don't think it is dishonest to remove a tiny twig, or flick away a seedling that has fallen onto your subject.. bend back branches of a nearby shrub to eliminate a shadow, etc. especially when you can't adjust your position to capture the scene more artistically. Especially on a windy day, or a rainy one, where the scene changes quickly anyway. It isn't cheating. And I agree with Darren vis a vis Eliot Porter - who was my inspiration for any nature photos I shot in the early days... I've got all the Sierra Club paperbacks and a few hardcovers of his, including his wonderful black and white stuff of the southwest. Seeing his dye transfer prints in person at.. the MET? or MOMA? in the 70's was a great treat. ann On 10/14/2014 10:10, Ken Waller wrote: It's quite one thing to arrange people in a wedding party and an entirely different thing to arrange things in nature to suit your tastes. Doing this in nature I'd say is dishonest IMO. I've come across scenes in nature and photographed them 'as found' numerous time - its really a matter of being alert and looking for them. That said I believe that this image was 'as found' as Mark stated and the colors look quite natural to me. -Original Message- From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 14, 2014 9:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Just a couple other thoughts about this remarkable composition... I think that Mark is being quite modest in calling this As Found (and of course, attempting to derail any thoughts that he might have arranged anything). Frankly, I wouldn't care if he had: Photography is often in seeing the possibilities and presenting things (like people at a wedding, for example) at their best. derailAnyone who has photographed people professionally knows that if you do it passively - photojournalist style - you aren't going to get the best results. Small things like the amount and direction a head is tilted, or providing something better to do with the clasped hands (fig leafs) that people often automatically assume when a camera is pointed at them, these things are directorial with the goal of presenting a better (and, counter-intuitively, often a more natural-looking photograph). Most still life images painted the masters was probably not as found and I doubt that we care or give them bonus points for never touching or adjusting anything within the composition. Secondly, a composition on the ground, like this one, still did not automatically create a good image. The photographer still had choices to make. Even if one chooses to say that the directly overhead point of view was a no-brainer there were choices that the photographer had to make on how much of the scene to include or crop out. He also has the choice of making it a horizontal or vertical composition (or square, even). And he has the freedom to orient the camera in any one of 360 degrees while pointing down. It would be an interesting experiment to take a group of photographers and (without them seeing the others had done) assign them to photograph this same patch of ground. I doubt that any two of them are going to come away with the exact same image of the scene. Thirdly, after Tim Bray's comments I went back and looked at the image again. I can see that the saturation might have been bumped a little but I don't see this as a problem. It does not look unnatural to me, although I realize that this is subjective and different photographers may draw the line in different places. I normally look at the white areas in an image to judge if the color cast is off in any direction and the whites do not appear to have any sort of greenish cast to my eyes. In short, I really, really like everything about this image and I'm quite glad that Mark's eyes were open to the possibility when it presented itself. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,
Re: OT - Disappointed by BH - printer cartridges with less than 1yr until expiration
Mark, Thank you for your response. I am not worrying in the sense that I am not going to through them away or ship them back to BH. Yes, I know that they can work beyond the expiration date. I've used those even a year after the expiration date. My concern was about expectation from such a large warehouse as BH. I think a prudent reseller does a FIFO (as Bipin mentioned) and maintains a fresh stock. Having had a better experience in this regard with Atlex, I am trying to see if I was just lucky aith Atlex (or unlucky with BH), or my experience is a representative indicator of both stores. Previously I've bought cartridges that were some 3-4 before the expiration date, where the reseller clearly indicated that and did a slight price markdown (most likely it was atlex.com). Your point about the fact that with R2880 being long out of production may have a good merit. Although I am not sure how long it has been out of production, as from what I can tell, exactly a year ago, in October 2013, Epson was still selling R2880 (was it is an old stock?). As for Epson not providing fresh enough cartridges to BH, I doubt that. A few times I had to call Epson tech-support for troubleshooting, they were asking me about freshness of the ink cartridges I was using. Igor Mark Roberts Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:09:44 -0700 wrote: Igor, don't worry about it. Inkjet cartridges always last much longer than the expiration date indicates. Usually years longer. BH can only sell what Epson provides them and for an obsolete printer that is often from an earlier production run. On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote: I wanted to share my experience with the fellow-PDMLers. Previously, I've been purchasing cartridges for my R2880 printer from atlex.com. While that experience had a couple of hiccups, all the cartridges I received were very fresh, with the expiration date at least 1.5 years in the future. Last week, I ordered a bunch of cartridges from BH, seeing that the combined order was comparable in price to that from atlex.com. I am somewhat disappointed by the outcome: 4 of the cartridges expire in 06/2015, which is about 8 months from now. I consider that being a bit too short. I buy them so that I always have a spare on hand, as on more than one occasion, I had a few situations (2 or 3 times) with a brand-new cartridge that has failed either right away or after 1-2 prints. While I don't have high turnaround with the cartridges, I expect them to have at least 1 year shelf live when I am buying them. I wonder what is the experience of other PDMLers with respect to the expiration date of the cartridges that they buy. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2 PESOs for the price of one: Reflections
Thank you, Mark, Attila and Alan, for the kind words. Alan, as for Too good to nitpick., - since different people have different views (and different taste to the wine), it is always interesting what might bother some other people in a particular photo, even if it were perfect. Mark, it is interesting to hear that to your taste, the presence of the people is a plus. Your comment about 3D feel is interesting. I hadn't thought about it that way before. I suspect it is the S-like shape of the building in #2 that contributes to that, as opposed to a more flat (or actually just one wide angle (or arch)) in #1. Also, the large distance to the building in #1 flattens it out. Again, thanks to all! Igor Mark C Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:20:12 -0700 wrote: The formal and rather symetrical architecture of the building really compliments the nearly perfect symmetry of the building and its reflection - with the people breaking things up just enough to make the photos feel alive. Great! Both are very good but #2 seems more 3d to me for some reason. On Sun, 12 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote: I've mentioned a few times that I love reflections (especially in photos). I know that a few PDMLers also like them... So, here are a couple of photos from Dresden Zwinger Palace: http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-05-03-reflections/ All comments are welcome! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks, Ann. I have learned form experience that any attempt by me to improve a scene like this usually results in it being ruined! Mark On 10/14/2014 8:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks, Darren - I appreciate your critique. In thinking about it - the thing that was special Sunday afternoon was that the grass was just long enough to hold the freshly fallen leaves aloft a bit, and the slightly overcast sunlight (filtering through partially bare trees) was bright enough to make the leaves pop a little but not too contrasty or harsh. I took a lot of shots of leaves that day but the mushrooms, which I only saw in this one spot, were what drew me to this. That said, there was a bit of rotating and cropping and tonal adjustments of the image once I got home - which is just part of the photographic process. Thanks again! Mark On 10/14/2014 9:14 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Just a couple other thoughts about this remarkable composition... I think that Mark is being quite modest in calling this As Found (and of course, attempting to derail any thoughts that he might have arranged anything). Frankly, I wouldn't care if he had: Photography is often in seeing the possibilities and presenting things (like people at a wedding, for example) at their best. derailAnyone who has photographed people professionally knows that if you do it passively - photojournalist style - you aren't going to get the best results. Small things like the amount and direction a head is tilted, or providing something better to do with the clasped hands (fig leafs) that people often automatically assume when a camera is pointed at them, these things are directorial with the goal of presenting a better (and, counter-intuitively, often a more natural-looking photograph). Most still life images painted the masters was probably not as found and I doubt that we care or give them bonus points for never touching or adjusting anything within the composition. Secondly, a composition on the ground, like this one, still did not automatically create a good image. The photographer still had choices to make. Even if one chooses to say that the directly overhead point of view was a no-brainer there were choices that the photographer had to make on how much of the scene to include or crop out. He also has the choice of making it a horizontal or vertical composition (or square, even). And he has the freedom to orient the camera in any one of 360 degrees while pointing down. It would be an interesting experiment to take a group of photographers and (without them seeing the others had done) assign them to photograph this same patch of ground. I doubt that any two of them are going to come away with the exact same image of the scene. Thirdly, after Tim Bray's comments I went back and looked at the image again. I can see that the saturation might have been bumped a little but I don't see this as a problem. It does not look unnatural to me, although I realize that this is subjective and different photographers may draw the line in different places. I normally look at the white areas in an image to judge if the color cast is off in any direction and the whites do not appear to have any sort of greenish cast to my eyes. In short, I really, really like everything about this image and I'm quite glad that Mark's eyes were open to the possibility when it presented itself. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks, Ken - I would assume that many of your images - wildflowers, reeds in still water, etc - as found images as well. I called it as found because it sounds better than leaf and mushrooms... Mark On 10/14/2014 10:10 AM, Ken Waller wrote: It's quite one thing to arrange people in a wedding party and an entirely different thing to arrange things in nature to suit your tastes. Doing this in nature I'd say is dishonest IMO. I've come across scenes in nature and photographed them 'as found' numerous time - its really a matter of being alert and looking for them. That said I believe that this image was 'as found' as Mark stated and the colors look quite natural to me. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks, Bob - I don't feel much like a master of anything but your remark inspires me to keep getting out and doing more. Much appreciated! Mark On 10/14/2014 10:34 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Darren, After a while, you'll come to realize Mark is a master artist. His photos inspire me and humble me. It looks effortless, but is deceptively so. Now I've got to get out and practice... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Just a couple other thoughts about this remarkable composition... I think that Mark is being quite modest in calling this As Found (and of course, attempting to derail any thoughts that he might have arranged anything). Frankly, I wouldn't care if he had: Photography is often in seeing the possibilities and presenting things (like people at a wedding, for example) at their best. derailAnyone who has photographed people professionally knows that if you do it passively - photojournalist style - you aren't going to get the best results. Small things like the amount and direction a head is tilted, or providing something better to do with the clasped hands (fig leafs) that people often automatically assume when a camera is pointed at them, these things are directorial with the goal of presenting a better (and, counter-intuitively, often a more natural-looking photograph). Most still life images painted the masters was probably not as found and I doubt that we care or give them bonus points for never touching or adjusting anything within the composition. Secondly, a composition on the ground, like this one, still did not automatically create a good image. The photographer still had choices to make. Even if one chooses to say that the directly overhead point of view was a no-brainer there were choices that the photographer had to make on how much of the scene to include or crop out. He also has the choice of making it a horizontal or vertical composition (or square, even). And he has the freedom to orient the camera in any one of 360 degrees while pointing down. It would be an interesting experiment to take a group of photographers and (without them seeing the others had done) assign them to photograph this same patch of ground. I doubt that any two of them are going to come away with the exact same image of the scene. Thirdly, after Tim Bray's comments I went back and looked at the image again. I can see that the saturation might have been bumped a little but I don't see this as a problem. It does not look unnatural to me, although I realize that this is subjective and different photographers may draw the line in different places. I normally look at the white areas in an image to judge if the color cast is off in any direction and the whites do not appear to have any sort of greenish cast to my eyes. In short, I really, really like everything about this image and I'm quite glad that Mark's eyes were open to the possibility when it presented itself. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the leaf into just the right place.. ... not that there's anything wrong with that.. ann On 10/13/2014 19:20, Mark C wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: If I ever present a post-processed PESO that looks like this....
... please, someone just shoot me. http://petapixel.com/2014/10/14/comprehensive-tutorial-post-process-almost-aspect-single-exposure-landscape-shot/#more-148068 I call this the Thomas Kinkade School of Photographic Post-Processing. I tend to believe that at least one or two of the colors in the image should be found in actual scene seen. /rant -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Which version works best?
Larry, I would consider two version of 73 (with the color adjusted): 1. the square crop as you have in 73-4, and 2. the cut that is just a bit wider than 73-2. I am not sure if it would be just to the left, through the middle or just on the right edge of the 3rd whole in the wheel (so that it is similar to the RHS of 78, or a bit narrower). Igor Sun Oct 12 18:05:10 EDT 2014 Larry Colen wrote: Igor PDML-StR wrote: Larry, I also prefer 73 for the same reason. As somebody mentioned, - I'd reduce the read on it to may the skin tone like that in 78. Ideally, I'd also have just a bit more on the RHS, similar to what you have in 78. Think if you can make a composite of the two images, adding a bit more of the wheel on the right. ;-) Even better, it turns out that 73 was shot a lot looser than 78. I've tried a few different crops and ways of post processing, https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157648642682976 I also copied the color balance from 78 over to 73. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Well spotted, Mark. Could be entitled One last Fling Alan C -Original Message- From: Mark C Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:20 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - As Found http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso, Brooke in Gilmour
We normally went to my friends camp in Madawaska for our thanksgiving weekend, but now they have a cottage, south of Bancroft, and we are doing the weekend there. One his daughter and son in law have a 1 year old named Brooks. Good kid, and i thought i should start practicing baby portrait for when our grand kid arrives. This is one of several i like. Did a square crop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882673 K-5 Sigma 17-70 and af 360 for a bit of fill Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso, Brooke in Gilmour
On 14/10/14, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: We normally went to my friends camp in Madawaska for our thanksgiving weekend, but now they have a cottage, south of Bancroft, and we are doing the weekend there. One his daughter and son in law have a 1 year old named Brooks. Good kid, and i thought i should start practicing baby portrait for when our grand kid arrives. This is one of several i like. Did a square crop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882673 Like I said on FB this could be your new calling! That's a superb shot! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Art Appreciation
Interesting moment, she seems immersed in listening to music. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17881549 K-5 IIs, DA 1:2.8 35mm Macro Limited Commented are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Very pleasant image, love the position of the leaf! On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso, Brooke in Gilmour
Excellent and not even your offspring! Taken at eye level with the kid filling the frame. Good work Dave! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:11 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: We normally went to my friends camp in Madawaska for our thanksgiving weekend, but now they have a cottage, south of Bancroft, and we are doing the weekend there. One his daughter and son in law have a 1 year old named Brooks. Good kid, and i thought i should start practicing baby portrait for when our grand kid arrives. This is one of several i like. Did a square crop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882673 K-5 Sigma 17-70 and af 360 for a bit of fill Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If I ever present a post-processed PESO that looks like this....
I don’t hate this type of image. It’s surreal, but I think there’s a place for that. On Oct 14, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... please, someone just shoot me. http://petapixel.com/2014/10/14/comprehensive-tutorial-post-process-almost-aspect-single-exposure-landscape-shot/#more-148068 I call this the Thomas Kinkade School of Photographic Post-Processing. I tend to believe that at least one or two of the colors in the image should be found in actual scene seen. /rant -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Art Appreciation
Interesting image. Well exposed and rendered. I might have cropped out the person on the right, both to eliminate what might be seen as a distracting element and to take the subject off center. But I like the as presented version as well. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting moment, she seems immersed in listening to music. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17881549 K-5 IIs, DA 1:2.8 35mm Macro Limited Commented are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso, Brooke in Gilmour
Yep, excellent job of getting down to capture a wonderful moment. I’m sometimes too lazy to go to the ground, but it’s key with kid photography. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent and not even your offspring! Taken at eye level with the kid filling the frame. Good work Dave! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:11 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: We normally went to my friends camp in Madawaska for our thanksgiving weekend, but now they have a cottage, south of Bancroft, and we are doing the weekend there. One his daughter and son in law have a 1 year old named Brooks. Good kid, and i thought i should start practicing baby portrait for when our grand kid arrives. This is one of several i like. Did a square crop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882673 K-5 Sigma 17-70 and af 360 for a bit of fill Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
Nicely done, Attila; that is a very pleasing image, with nice light and great detail. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. That comment troubles me, Jack. We should all feel free to comment on any post her. If you comments are for review and response by the photographer only, why don't you send your comments directly to him or her off-line, rather than posting them to the list. Posts to the list by definition invite responses from anyone else on the list, in my view. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo puzzler
A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
I feel defeated? Very bizarre, Jack. I have nothing at stake here, other than honest appraisal. I was telling the world I disagree, not just you. The image is correctly rendered as presented, IMO. But it’s not important. I have far more critical things to worry about. I feel defeated by cancer and medical bills, but certainly not by your opinion of a photograph. No more of this for me. Don’t have much time to play these days but thought I’d take a brief break from lurking and working and comment on a few images. Sorry if that offends you. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
I agree with Dan. Nice image, and indeed, it looks best on black. Igor Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:27:43 -0700 wrote: Nicely done, Attila; that is a very pleasing image, with nice light and great detail. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo puzzler
A deer? On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If I ever present a post-processed PESO that looks like this....
I am with Paul on this. Igor Paul Stenquist Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:56:36 -0700 wrote: I don't hate this type of image. It.s surreal, but I think there's a place for that. On Oct 14, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... please, someone just shoot me. http://petapixel.com/2014/10/14/comprehensive-tutorial-post-process-almost-aspect-single-exposure-landscape-shot/#more-148068 I call this the Thomas Kinkade School of Photographic Post-Processing. I tend to believe that at least one or two of the colors in the image should be found in actual scene seen. /rant -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
FWIW I see plenty of detail on the caps on my monitor as well (calibrated Macbook Pro). I think it's good for the photographer to get feedback about possible issues with the image (esp. if it's a problem that will result in many/most viewers not seeing what the photographer intended to present) but it's also just as important, if one person states that there is an issue with an image, for others to let the photographer note that they don't see the same problems. Failure to chime in on something like this leaves the photographer and the original reviewer unaware of where the problem lies. On Oct 14, 2014, at 14:32 , Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I feel defeated? Very bizarre, Jack. I have nothing at stake here, other than honest appraisal. I was telling the world I disagree, not just you. The image is correctly rendered as presented, IMO. But it’s not important. I have far more critical things to worry about. I feel defeated by cancer and medical bills, but certainly not by your opinion of a photograph. No more of this for me. Don’t have much time to play these days but thought I’d take a brief break from lurking and working and comment on a few images. Sorry if that offends you. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above
Re: Photo puzzler
That, probably, would've been too simple... ;-) Paul Stenquist Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:36:07 -0700 wrote: A deer? On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Boys! stop it now! Jack - it is about the variance across monitors... and useful information for all of us viewing each others images on line.. E.g. if 3 or 4 people said they couldn't see the detail in something in a particular image and are using different equipment, then that info would be useful for the photographer to adjust someway. If you are the person who doesnt see the detail, having mothers chime in that they see it is good info for you to perhaps get your monitor calibrated or change the brightness, or look at it at a different angle, etc. From the two views of yours, on my monitor it falls between the two - I don't see a lot of detail on the center of the fungus on mine One also can seeslight variances in this sort of thing across different browsers on the same computer. ann On 10/14/2014 15:12, Jack Davis wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the
Re: PESO - As Found
You said in one paragraph that I spent more on :-) Three cheers for being succinct - which is not in my nature ann On 10/14/2014 15:40, Charles Robinson wrote: FWIW I see plenty of detail on the caps on my monitor as well (calibrated Macbook Pro). I think it's good for the photographer to get feedback about possible issues with the image (esp. if it's a problem that will result in many/most viewers not seeing what the photographer intended to present) but it's also just as important, if one person states that there is an issue with an image, for others to let the photographer note that they don't see the same problems. Failure to chime in on something like this leaves the photographer and the original reviewer unaware of where the problem lies. On Oct 14, 2014, at 14:32 , Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I feel defeated? Very bizarre, Jack. I have nothing at stake here, other than honest appraisal. I was telling the world I disagree, not just you. The image is correctly rendered as presented, IMO. But it’s not important. I have far more critical things to worry about. I feel defeated by cancer and medical bills, but certainly not by your opinion of a photograph. No more of this for me. Don’t have much time to play these days but thought I’d take a brief break from lurking and working and comment on a few images. Sorry if that offends you. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please
Re: PESO - As Found
Its not only monitors, its connections. I recently switched computers and switched from a 15pin vGA analog connection to my monitor to a digital HDMI connection on my monitor and it was like all my lenses got sharper. It really matters. On 10/14/2014 3:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Boys! stop it now! Jack - it is about the variance across monitors... and useful information for all of us viewing each others images on line.. E.g. if 3 or 4 people said they couldn't see the detail in something in a particular image and are using different equipment, then that info would be useful for the photographer to adjust someway. If you are the person who doesnt see the detail, having mothers chime in that they see it is good info for you to perhaps get your monitor calibrated or change the brightness, or look at it at a different angle, etc. From the two views of yours, on my monitor it falls between the two - I don't see a lot of detail on the center of the fungus on mine One also can seeslight variances in this sort of thing across different browsers on the same computer. ann On 10/14/2014 15:12, Jack Davis wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
Thanks, Dan and Igor. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I agree with Dan. Nice image, and indeed, it looks best on black. Igor Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:27:43 -0700 wrote: Nicely done, Attila; that is a very pleasing image, with nice light and great detail. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If I ever present a post-processed PESO that looks like this....
I also agree. It's not MY style, but I don't really hated it. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I am with Paul on this. Igor Paul Stenquist Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:56:36 -0700 wrote: I don't hate this type of image. It.s surreal, but I think there's a place for that. On Oct 14, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... please, someone just shoot me. http://petapixel.com/2014/10/14/comprehensive-tutorial-post-process-almost-aspect-single-exposure-landscape-shot/#more-148068 I call this the Thomas Kinkade School of Photographic Post-Processing. I tend to believe that at least one or two of the colors in the image should be found in actual scene seen. /rant -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Art Appreciation
Thanks, Attila and Paul. Paul, I left the other person in because her expression was contrasting to that of the main subject, and because I wanted to include the bust nest to her, to show that the main subject was surrounded by Rodin pieces. Your comment about the image being too centered has merit, however, and I will crop it to change that, at least to some degree. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Interesting image. Well exposed and rendered. I might have cropped out the person on the right, both to eliminate what might be seen as a distracting element and to take the subject off center. But I like the as presented version as well. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting moment, she seems immersed in listening to music. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17881549 K-5 IIs, DA 1:2.8 35mm Macro Limited Commented are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso, Brooke in Gilmour
Dave, As several people said, the strength of this shot (as is of most portraits) is to shoot from (or below) the eye level. I noticed one thing: It might be an artifact of the downsizing/JPEG, but it looks like the focus is just a bit in front of the face (see the front of the jacket). Also, sorry for being pedantic, - you wrote his name as Brooks, but the caption says Brooke. I suspect you may have made a typo in one of the places, probably in the e-mail (being used to type your own last name..). Cheers, Igor Paul Stenquist Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:02:44 -0700 wrote: Yep, excellent job of getting down to capture a wonderful moment. I.m sometimes too lazy to go to the ground, but it's key with kid photography. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent and not even your offspring! Taken at eye level with the kid filling the frame. Good work Dave! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:11 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: We normally went to my friends camp in Madawaska for our thanksgiving weekend, but now they have a cottage, south of Bancroft, and we are doing the weekend there. One his daughter and son in law have a 1 year old named Brooks. Good kid, and i thought i should start practicing baby portrait for when our grand kid arrives. This is one of several i like. Did a square crop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882673 K-5 Sigma 17-70 and af 360 for a bit of fill Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Of course, It's all too absolute to allow for possible differences. That allowance should always be identified. Thanks for commenting, ann. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:57:38 PM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Boys! stop it now! Jack - it is about the variance across monitors... and useful information for all of us viewing each others images on line.. E.g. if 3 or 4 people said they couldn't see the detail in something in a particular image and are using different equipment, then that info would be useful for the photographer to adjust someway. If you are the person who doesnt see the detail, having mothers chime in that they see it is good info for you to perhaps get your monitor calibrated or change the brightness, or look at it at a different angle, etc. From the two views of yours, on my monitor it falls between the two - I don't see a lot of detail on the center of the fungus on mine One also can seeslight variances in this sort of thing across different browsers on the same computer. ann On 10/14/2014 15:12, Jack Davis wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
Re: OT: PESO: Fireflite
That's much more like real life. On 10/12/2014 8:18 PM, Bill wrote: On 11/10/2014 12:30 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Over sharpness may be an influence of the sharp dark color v chrome. Added to, perhaps, by the whitewall tires.(??) http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/pictures/besotto.html I invite you to have a second look. I turned the sharpness down significantly, and lightened up a little. The whole thing was a little Gothic. Thanks bill -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If I ever present a post-processed PESO that looks like this....
Yikes! Request noted :-) ann On 10/14/2014 13:30, Darren Addy wrote: ... please, someone just shoot me. http://petapixel.com/2014/10/14/comprehensive-tutorial-post-process-almost-aspect-single-exposure-landscape-shot/#more-148068 I call this the Thomas Kinkade School of Photographic Post-Processing. I tend to believe that at least one or two of the colors in the image should be found in actual scene seen. /rant -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Rain day abstract
Little experiment on the way to work today. http://www.caguila.com/raindayab/index.html Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Feedback to the photographer is always appropriate and something we all hope for. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:02:02 PM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found You said in one paragraph that I spent more on :-) Three cheers for being succinct - which is not in my nature ann On 10/14/2014 15:40, Charles Robinson wrote: FWIW I see plenty of detail on the caps on my monitor as well (calibrated Macbook Pro). I think it's good for the photographer to get feedback about possible issues with the image (esp. if it's a problem that will result in many/most viewers not seeing what the photographer intended to present) but it's also just as important, if one person states that there is an issue with an image, for others to let the photographer note that they don't see the same problems. Failure to chime in on something like this leaves the photographer and the original reviewer unaware of where the problem lies. On Oct 14, 2014, at 14:32 , Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I feel defeated? Very bizarre, Jack. I have nothing at stake here, other than honest appraisal. I was telling the world I disagree, not just you. The image is correctly rendered as presented, IMO. But it’s not important. I have far more critical things to worry about. I feel defeated by cancer and medical bills, but certainly not by your opinion of a photograph. No more of this for me. Don’t have much time to play these days but thought I’d take a brief break from lurking and working and comment on a few images. Sorry if that offends you. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: PESO - As Found
Your welcome, Jack... and by the way, I meant having OTHERS chime in not having MOTHERS chime in although some chimers might be such. ann the brooksian typist On 10/14/2014 17:06, Jack Davis wrote: Of course, It's all too absolute to allow for possible differences. That allowance should always be identified. Thanks for commenting, ann. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:57:38 PM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Boys! stop it now! Jack - it is about the variance across monitors... and useful information for all of us viewing each others images on line.. E.g. if 3 or 4 people said they couldn't see the detail in something in a particular image and are using different equipment, then that info would be useful for the photographer to adjust someway. If you are the person who doesnt see the detail, having mothers chime in that they see it is good info for you to perhaps get your monitor calibrated or change the brightness, or look at it at a different angle, etc. From the two views of yours, on my monitor it falls between the two - I don't see a lot of detail on the center of the fungus on mine One also can seeslight variances in this sort of thing across different browsers on the same computer. ann On 10/14/2014 15:12, Jack Davis wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: PESO - As Found
Very well said, J C. Jack - Original Message - From: J C OConnell hifis...@gate.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:05:11 PM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Its not only monitors, its connections. I recently switched computers and switched from a 15pin vGA analog connection to my monitor to a digital HDMI connection on my monitor and it was like all my lenses got sharper. It really matters. On 10/14/2014 3:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Boys! stop it now! Jack - it is about the variance across monitors... and useful information for all of us viewing each others images on line.. E.g. if 3 or 4 people said they couldn't see the detail in something in a particular image and are using different equipment, then that info would be useful for the photographer to adjust someway. If you are the person who doesnt see the detail, having mothers chime in that they see it is good info for you to perhaps get your monitor calibrated or change the brightness, or look at it at a different angle, etc. From the two views of yours, on my monitor it falls between the two - I don't see a lot of detail on the center of the fungus on mine One also can seeslight variances in this sort of thing across different browsers on the same computer. ann On 10/14/2014 15:12, Jack Davis wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks Jack. I do see detail in the mushroom caps on my monitors, but I have two and to be honest I can never get them to quite match. One is very susceptible to angle of view changes. I also see huge differences between color managed programs and those that are not. I will probably print this image and will fine tune the color balance then. I have been reading Ctien's post exposure - one of the free photo ebooks that Darren posted about a while back - and he describes making step tablets to carefully map out the different tonal ranges of different types of photo paper - I had to chuckle thinking of how so many images made now will never be seen except on screens, and how ultimately the photographer has no really control over how the image winds up being presented. Mark On 10/14/2014 10:34 AM, Jack Davis wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
Thanks, Paul. On 10/14/2014 1:49 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rain day abstract
I like both of 'em - good timing on #2 especially I hope Darrel was driving! ann On 10/14/2014 17:12, Christine Aguila wrote: Little experiment on the way to work today. http://www.caguila.com/raindayab/index.html Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
OK, ann. I'll run tell my wife that she may NOT chime in. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:16:35 PM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Your welcome, Jack... and by the way, I meant having OTHERS chime in not having MOTHERS chime in although some chimers might be such. ann the brooksian typist On 10/14/2014 17:06, Jack Davis wrote: Of course, It's all too absolute to allow for possible differences. That allowance should always be identified. Thanks for commenting, ann. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:57:38 PM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Boys! stop it now! Jack - it is about the variance across monitors... and useful information for all of us viewing each others images on line.. E.g. if 3 or 4 people said they couldn't see the detail in something in a particular image and are using different equipment, then that info would be useful for the photographer to adjust someway. If you are the person who doesnt see the detail, having mothers chime in that they see it is good info for you to perhaps get your monitor calibrated or change the brightness, or look at it at a different angle, etc. From the two views of yours, on my monitor it falls between the two - I don't see a lot of detail on the center of the fungus on mine One also can seeslight variances in this sort of thing across different browsers on the same computer. ann On 10/14/2014 15:12, Jack Davis wrote: The image wasn't yours and I don't understand your need to tell me you disagree. When I critique, I always hope for a reaction from the photographer. It's as though you feel defeated and are attempting to salve your ego. No further comments! Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:53:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found I merely wanted to point out that I see plenty of detail in the image, Jack, and I trust my monitor. It wasn't a review of your review, but rather a point of information. If you don’t want others to join the conversation, don’t critique. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: Just read your review of my review, Paul. You need not post such as a direct rebuttal to my comments for Mark. This habit has become very predictable. Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:49:00 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE
Re: PESO - As Found
Points recognized with my total agreement. I recognize that my monitor is not the single exception. Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:18:40 PM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Jack. I do see detail in the mushroom caps on my monitors, but I have two and to be honest I can never get them to quite match. One is very susceptible to angle of view changes. I also see huge differences between color managed programs and those that are not. I will probably print this image and will fine tune the color balance then. I have been reading Ctien's post exposure - one of the free photo ebooks that Darren posted about a while back - and he describes making step tablets to carefully map out the different tonal ranges of different types of photo paper - I had to chuckle thinking of how so many images made now will never be seen except on screens, and how ultimately the photographer has no really control over how the image winds up being presented. Mark On 10/14/2014 10:34 AM, Jack Davis wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rain day abstract
I especially like the one partially wiper cleared. Beautifully rendered, Christine. Jack - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:19:39 PM Subject: Re: Rain day abstract I like both of 'em - good timing on #2 especially I hope Darrel was driving! ann On 10/14/2014 17:12, Christine Aguila wrote: Little experiment on the way to work today. http://www.caguila.com/raindayab/index.html Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
Excellent image of an interesting building - aside from the stained glass window, the curved hallway with glass ceiling looks very elegant. Mark On 10/14/2014 2:49 PM, Attila Boros wrote: Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo puzzler
Hmmm - the pupil seems to be about 50% contracted and it is round, so that rules out a lot of hoofed animals (horizonal shaped pupils) and felines... not a bird due to the apparent fur... I'd guess a dog... or a primate??? On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
Thanks, Mark. On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Excellent image of an interesting building - aside from the stained glass window, the curved hallway with glass ceiling looks very elegant. Mark On 10/14/2014 2:49 PM, Attila Boros wrote: Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso, Brooke in Gilmour
Excellent portrait, David. The square format is perfect and as others noted, getting to eye level really makes the shot. Mark On 10/14/2014 2:11 PM, David J Brooks wrote: We normally went to my friends camp in Madawaska for our thanksgiving weekend, but now they have a cottage, south of Bancroft, and we are doing the weekend there. One his daughter and son in law have a 1 year old named Brooks. Good kid, and i thought i should start practicing baby portrait for when our grand kid arrives. This is one of several i like. Did a square crop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882673 K-5 Sigma 17-70 and af 360 for a bit of fill Dave --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rain day abstract
I thought the same thing... -p On 10/14/2014 4:19 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I like both of 'em - good timing on #2 especially I hope Darrel was driving! ann On 10/14/2014 17:12, Christine Aguila wrote: Little experiment on the way to work today. http://www.caguila.com/raindayab/index.html Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo puzzler
It's Cotty at full moon. On 14 Oct 2014, at 22:49, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Hmmm - the pupil seems to be about 50% contracted and it is round, so that rules out a lot of hoofed animals (horizonal shaped pupils) and felines... not a bird due to the apparent fur... I'd guess a dog... or a primate??? On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: PESO: Fireflite
On 14/10/2014 3:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: That's much more like real life. That was with as little sharpening as I could do. Turned it off in Lightroom, and didn't do any in Photoshop other than whatever happens during downsizing the image. I have to sharpen the files from Pentax WAY more. Thanks all for looking bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If I ever present a post-processed PESO that looks like this....
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... please, someone just shoot me. http://petapixel.com/2014/10/14/comprehensive-tutorial-post-process-almost-aspect-single-exposure-landscape-shot/#more-148068 I call this the Thomas Kinkade School of Photographic Post-Processing. I tend to believe that at least one or two of the colors in the image should be found in actual scene seen. /rant Okay, so no black and white landscapes allowed then. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: PESO: Fireflite
Bill, I have become so memory impaired that I'd appreciate seeing the initial and final images side by side.(?) Thanks! Jack - Original Message - From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:21:02 PM Subject: Re: OT: PESO: Fireflite On 14/10/2014 3:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: That's much more like real life. That was with as little sharpening as I could do. Turned it off in Lightroom, and didn't do any in Photoshop other than whatever happens during downsizing the image. I have to sharpen the files from Pentax WAY more. Thanks all for looking bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo puzzler
It's a selfy of Igor - maybe that's the point - not the beastie whose eye he is reflected in ann On 10/14/2014 17:49, Mark C wrote: Hmmm - the pupil seems to be about 50% contracted and it is round, so that rules out a lot of hoofed animals (horizonal shaped pupils) and felines... not a bird due to the apparent fur... I'd guess a dog... or a primate??? On 10/14/2014 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
I like that - and yes, better against a dark background.. I thought it was a raven ann On 10/14/2014 16:30, Attila Boros wrote: Thanks, Dan and Igor. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: I agree with Dan. Nice image, and indeed, it looks best on black. Igor Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:27:43 -0700 wrote: Nicely done, Attila; that is a very pleasing image, with nice light and great detail. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rain day abstract
Paul - shall we show ours? :-) I remember back a while there we were cosidering a buddy theme thingy ... I'm in serious procrastination mode tonight ann On 10/14/2014 18:06, Paul wrote: I thought the same thing... -p On 10/14/2014 4:19 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I like both of 'em - good timing on #2 especially I hope Darrel was driving! ann On 10/14/2014 17:12, Christine Aguila wrote: Little experiment on the way to work today. http://www.caguila.com/raindayab/index.html Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: PESO: Fireflite
I’ve found that K-5 files require a substantial amount of sharpening, but I rarely apply any sharpening to K-3 files. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 14/10/2014 3:09 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: That's much more like real life. That was with as little sharpening as I could do. Turned it off in Lightroom, and didn't do any in Photoshop other than whatever happens during downsizing the image. I have to sharpen the files from Pentax WAY more. Thanks all for looking bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
3 photo GESO - Rainy days through windows
Shown these in other groups before - they just seem to go along with Christine's abstracts http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Rainy-days/n-3cTMQ/ Paul Sorenson has one somewhat similar as well, I seem to remember ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo puzzler
Fine image (including the small portrait of the photographer), but I have no idea to whom the eye belongs. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote: A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rain day abstract
Nice work, Christine, especially the second image. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Little experiment on the way to work today. http://www.caguila.com/raindayab/index.html Comments welcome. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso, Brooke in Gilmour
Cute kid. Only other comment I have is to use a less detailed background or a lens sufficient to blur the background. You certainly had his/her attention. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso, Brooke in Gilmour We normally went to my friends camp in Madawaska for our thanksgiving weekend, but now they have a cottage, south of Bancroft, and we are doing the weekend there. One his daughter and son in law have a 1 year old named Brooks. Good kid, and i thought i should start practicing baby portrait for when our grand kid arrives. This is one of several i like. Did a square crop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882673 K-5 Sigma 17-70 and af 360 for a bit of fill Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage
A very colorful precise image. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com Subject: OT PESO: Black Eagle Passage Passage of the Black Eagle Palace in Oradea, Romania. Please press H to view on black. OT because of Sony RX100 II pocketcam. https://500px.com/photo/86405669/black-eagle-passage-by-attila-boros -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Afternoon light
Not that I am complaining, but it is really hard to get through dinner sometimes when the storm clouds start to give way to the afternoon light on the river… Fortunately my wife is very tolerant and often, as in this case, she is the one who says something like “look behind you, down river - that light is special.” So I leave the table, grab the camera, and go out into the lingering rain. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h19a6c1e1#h19a6c1e1 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Grass
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882912size=lg K-5 IIs, FA 100mm Macro F 3.5 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Afternoon light
Nice light indeed, and a very fine image. You need to do something special for your wife tonight. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Not that I am complaining, but it is really hard to get through dinner sometimes when the storm clouds start to give way to the afternoon light on the river… Fortunately my wife is very tolerant and often, as in this case, she is the one who says something like “look behind you, down river - that light is special.” So I leave the table, grab the camera, and go out into the lingering rain. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h19a6c1e1#h19a6c1e1 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Afternoon light
Oooh! Gorgeous! ann On 10/14/2014 19:52, Stanley Halpin wrote: Not that I am complaining, but it is really hard to get through dinner sometimes when the storm clouds start to give way to the afternoon light on the river… Fortunately my wife is very tolerant and often, as in this case, she is the one who says something like “look behind you, down river - that light is special.” So I leave the table, grab the camera, and go out into the lingering rain. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h19a6c1e1#h19a6c1e1 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
to me AS FOUND just means to me he didn't move anything.. except himself and his camera... My definition also. I wasn't trying to defend Mark - his images speak for themselves. I was just giving my opinion. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: PESO - As Found to me AS FOUND just means to me he didn't move anything.. except himself and his camera... OTOH I don't think it would have been dishonest to photograph and show this if he had nudged the leaf a bit to the right or left to improve the composition - only _dishonest_ if he called it as found Ken, I don't think anyone thought Mark didn't find it as shown - I hope my joking comments didn't contribute to you feeling you had to defend him :-) But I will say that when shooting closeups of flora in the wild I don't think it is dishonest to remove a tiny twig, or flick away a seedling that has fallen onto your subject.. bend back branches of a nearby shrub to eliminate a shadow, etc. especially when you can't adjust your position to capture the scene more artistically. Especially on a windy day, or a rainy one, where the scene changes quickly anyway. It isn't cheating. And I agree with Darren vis a vis Eliot Porter - who was my inspiration for any nature photos I shot in the early days... I've got all the Sierra Club paperbacks and a few hardcovers of his, including his wonderful black and white stuff of the southwest. Seeing his dye transfer prints in person at.. the MET? or MOMA? in the 70's was a great treat. ann On 10/14/2014 10:10, Ken Waller wrote: It's quite one thing to arrange people in a wedding party and an entirely different thing to arrange things in nature to suit your tastes. Doing this in nature I'd say is dishonest IMO. I've come across scenes in nature and photographed them 'as found' numerous time - its really a matter of being alert and looking for them. That said I believe that this image was 'as found' as Mark stated and the colors look quite natural to me. -Original Message- From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Sent: Oct 14, 2014 9:14 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Just a couple other thoughts about this remarkable composition... I think that Mark is being quite modest in calling this As Found (and of course, attempting to derail any thoughts that he might have arranged anything). Frankly, I wouldn't care if he had: Photography is often in seeing the possibilities and presenting things (like people at a wedding, for example) at their best. derailAnyone who has photographed people professionally knows that if you do it passively - photojournalist style - you aren't going to get the best results. Small things like the amount and direction a head is tilted, or providing something better to do with the clasped hands (fig leafs) that people often automatically assume when a camera is pointed at them, these things are directorial with the goal of presenting a better (and, counter-intuitively, often a more natural-looking photograph). Most still life images painted the masters was probably not as found and I doubt that we care or give them bonus points for never touching or adjusting anything within the composition. Secondly, a composition on the ground, like this one, still did not automatically create a good image. The photographer still had choices to make. Even if one chooses to say that the directly overhead point of view was a no-brainer there were choices that the photographer had to make on how much of the scene to include or crop out. He also has the choice of making it a horizontal or vertical composition (or square, even). And he has the freedom to orient the camera in any one of 360 degrees while pointing down. It would be an interesting experiment to take a group of photographers and (without them seeing the others had done) assign them to photograph this same patch of ground. I doubt that any two of them are going to come away with the exact same image of the scene. Thirdly, after Tim Bray's comments I went back and looked at the image again. I can see that the saturation might have been bumped a little but I don't see this as a problem. It does not look unnatural to me, although I realize that this is subjective and different photographers may draw the line in different places. I normally look at the white areas in an image to judge if the color cast is off in any direction and the whites do not appear to have any sort of greenish cast to my eyes. In short, I really, really like everything about this image and I'm quite glad that Mark's eyes were open to the possibility when it presented itself. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: fortunately it wasnt -exactly- under your feet :-) That's one of those little scenes that no one is going to believe you didn't create by moving the
Re: PESO: Grass
works for me ann On 10/14/2014 19:53, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17882912size=lg K-5 IIs, FA 100mm Macro F 3.5 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - As Found
The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. Same on my monitor. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: PESO - As Found The mushroom caps show good detail and a very deep brown color on my calibrated monitor. No black holes, nor even any pure black. The richness and depth of the color are part of the images appeal, IMO. Paul On Oct 14, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote: HI, mark, As I recall, I sent along my terms of approval of this image. It has, rightfully, met with general approval, as it deserves to. I do have a suggestion (comment), if I may. My monitor allows virtually no detail to show on the mushroom caps. I confess downloading the image and giving them a couple light bumps with the dodge tool. I limited it to subtle, but took out the black hole effect. Hope OK? Jack - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 5:07:48 AM Subject: Re: PESO - As Found Thanks Dan. My wife and I were a few hours north of here, pulling flower pots off her family grave plot in preparation for winter. I literally looked down to grab a pot full of geraniums and saw the the leaf and mushrooms, as they are. I have wander through the graveyard a bit for this looking at other fallen leaves, but this was the best arrangement I saw. Mark On 10/13/2014 7:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Wow, what a great composition for a found image. Of course, it take an artistic eye to notice the lovely arrangement and frame it to best effect, as you have done. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/as-found You never know what is going to be right under your feet. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Afternoon light
Nicely composed and captured. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info Subject: PESO: Afternoon light Not that I am complaining, but it is really hard to get through dinner sometimes when the storm clouds start to give way to the afternoon light on the river… Fortunately my wife is very tolerant and often, as in this case, she is the one who says something like “look behind you, down river - that light is special.” So I leave the table, grab the camera, and go out into the lingering rain. http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p155717848/h19a6c1e1#h19a6c1e1 stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo puzzler
Mark gave interesting arguments, but one of them is not quite correct. I laughed at Bob's version! Ann and Dan made a great observation and figured out half of the answer! Yes, the reflection is the selfie. Sort of... Still remaining the other half, as Dan put it to whom the eye belongs. Any other guesses? Igor On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Igor PDML-StR wrote: A photo puzzler. Guess who this is: http://42graphy.org/misc/puzzle1/_IR00178.jpg Send you answer on the back of a $20 bill... or K-3 ;-) ... or just respond to the list. :-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo puzzler
Igor PDML-StR wrote: Mark gave interesting arguments, but one of them is not quite correct. I laughed at Bob's version! Ann and Dan made a great observation and figured out half of the answer! Yes, the reflection is the selfie. Sort of... Still remaining the other half, as Dan put it to whom the eye belongs. Any other guesses? I'm fairly certain it's not Jane, unless she's about to die from blepharitis. I'll guess that it's a dog, perhaps one sitting on stairs in a house. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: If I ever present a post-processed PESO that looks like this....
Bruce Walker wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: ... please, someone just shoot me. http://petapixel.com/2014/10/14/comprehensive-tutorial-post-process-almost-aspect-single-exposure-landscape-shot/#more-148068 I call this the Thomas Kinkade School of Photographic Post-Processing. I tend to believe that at least one or two of the colors in the image should be found in actual scene seen. /rant Okay, so no black and white landscapes allowed then. Zing! ;-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.