Re: PESO - Bloodroot

2015-04-15 Thread Alan C

Quite exquisite, Mark. Stacked I presume?

Alan C

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One of my favorite wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bloodroot-2015

I usually miss these but today I managed to wander into the woods when
they were blooming like crazy. This time I remembered to bring the
tripod aand used the A* 200 macro. This shot is 48 stacked images shot
in AV mode  at ISO 200 at f6.7 with +1 stop exposure compensation.

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Re: PESO - Bloodroot

2015-04-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Excellent, my favorite so far.  Regards,  Bob S.

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 One of my favorite wildflowers -

 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bloodroot-2015

 I usually miss these but today I managed to wander into the woods when they
 were blooming like crazy. This time I remembered to bring the tripod aand
 used the A* 200 macro. This shot is 48 stacked images shot in AV mode  at
 ISO 200 at f6.7 with +1 stop exposure compensation.

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Re: PESO - Bloodroot

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Beautiful Image, with magnificent detail.

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 used the A* 200 macro. This shot is 48 stacked images shot in AV mode  at
 ISO 200 at f6.7 with +1 stop exposure compensation.

Your effort and patience really bore fruit, so to speak.

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Re: PESO: Waiting Room

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob and Ann.

Even I like to try something different every now and then.

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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Street photography?  From Dan Matyola?
 Your branching out Dan...and doing a good job as well.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Waiting for the train at theNew Jersey Transit waiting room:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18004847
 K-01, DA 1:2.8 40 mm XS
 Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO - Bloodroot

2015-04-15 Thread Mark C
Thanks Alan - yep, 48 stacked images. This time I remembered to bring 
the tripod so the success rate on the stacks i much higher.


Mark

On 4/15/2015 9:28 AM, Alan C wrote:

Quite exquisite, Mark. Stacked I presume?

Alan C

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Subject: PESO - Bloodroot

One of my favorite wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bloodroot-2015

I usually miss these but today I managed to wander into the woods when
they were blooming like crazy. This time I remembered to bring the
tripod aand used the A* 200 macro. This shot is 48 stacked images shot
in AV mode  at ISO 200 at f6.7 with +1 stop exposure compensation.

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Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Exactly so Bruce. It also explains why I don't I don't post studio 
photos of beautiful women. That and a lack of talent of course.


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It seems, that one must attend a rodeo in order to take any photos of it.  
Perhaps therein lies the problem.  Not that most of us wouldn't take pictures 
if we were there, just that most of us never go to one  - me thinks.

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On April 14, 2015 9:20:43 AM PDT, Donald Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

One thing I don't see enough on PDML is rodeo photos. My remedy is to
post this 11 shot gallery from an indoor event I attended last weekend.

Lighting terrible, riders not very good, results limited, people cool,
action plentiful.

So for something a little different check these out. CC welcomed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157651894937536/

https://flic.kr/s/aHska8FJQh



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Re: PESO - Bloodroot

2015-04-15 Thread Mark C

Thanks Bob, Dan, David and everyone else who had a look.

Mark

On 4/15/2015 10:12 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Excellent, my favorite so far.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:

One of my favorite wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bloodroot-2015

I usually miss these but today I managed to wander into the woods when they
were blooming like crazy. This time I remembered to bring the tripod aand
used the A* 200 macro. This shot is 48 stacked images shot in AV mode  at
ISO 200 at f6.7 with +1 stop exposure compensation.

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Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Thanks Bob, there is a rodeo around here twice a year. The big one here 
is on Labor day when it usually rains. The local community college has a 
program for rodeo athletes. On Campus you can spot them by their 
crutches  casts.


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Don,
Something different and interesting.
Looks like you made good use of your opportunities.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Donald Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

One thing I don't see enough on PDML is rodeo photos. My remedy is to post
this 11 shot gallery from an indoor event I attended last weekend. Lighting
terrible, riders not very good, results limited, people cool, action
plentiful.

So for something a little different check these out. CC welcomed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157651894937536/

https://flic.kr/s/aHska8FJQh

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Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
 'On Campus you can spot them by their crutches  casts.'
LOL
I guess you've to have a certain amount of young and stupid
before you can become old and wise.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Donald Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Bob, there is a rodeo around here twice a year. The big one here is
 on Labor day when it usually rains. The local community college has a
 program for rodeo athletes. On Campus you can spot them by their crutches 
 casts.

 On 4/14/15 1:20 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

 Message: 7
 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:43:20 -0500
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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
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 Don,
 Something different and interesting.
 Looks like you made good use of your opportunities.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Donald Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 One thing I don't see enough on PDML is rodeo photos. My remedy is to
  post
 this 11 shot gallery from an indoor event I attended last weekend.
  Lighting
 terrible, riders not very good, results limited, people cool, action
 plentiful.
 
 So for something a little different check these out. CC welcomed.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157651894937536/
 
 https://flic.kr/s/aHska8FJQh
 
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Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Thanks Darren, yeah that guy limped out of the arena, but that's the way 
those guys are. I know you have some rodeo folks there in Neb. There is 
a National bronc champion from here in Webster county. Of course the 
Bull riding tour goes to NYC and pretty well fills Madison Square garden 
so there are fans all over.


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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 An impressive set, Don! Some 
of these city slickers just don't realize what good clean fun rodeos 
can be (as exemplified in your image: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/16951051888/in/album-72157651894937536/ 
) Ouch.

One thing I don't see enough on PDML is rodeo photos. My remedy is to
post this 11 shot gallery from an indoor event I attended last weekend.

Lighting terrible, riders not very good, results limited, people cool,
action plentiful.

So for something a little different check these out. CC welcomed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157651894937536/

https://flic.kr/s/aHska8FJQh



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Re:Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Dan thanks for the look and the empathy. As a mainly landscape 
photographer I welcome the opportunity to try out follow focus, rapid 
fire  high ISO. Yesterday I went back to shooting wild flowers.


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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 13:11:33 -0400
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Very nicely done.  Your portfolio really gives one a sense of the event.

Taking photos at a rodeo is tough.  I tried at an outdoor rodeo in
Makawao Hawaii several years back, and I am quite impressed at the
results you achieved.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Donald Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

One thing I don't see enough on PDML is rodeo photos. My remedy is to post
this 11 shot gallery from an indoor event I attended last weekend. Lighting
terrible, riders not very good, results limited, people cool, action
plentiful.

So for something a little different check these out. CC welcomed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157651894937536/

https://flic.kr/s/aHska8FJQh




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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote:

Say, how's that foreword coming, Doug? :)

Doug is right in the middle of his Master's thesis at the moment and
very difficult to reach. I'm preparing an alternate Foreword just in
case he can't do one.



On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mark Roberts
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 So yesterday I met with Dr. Carlos at Dana-Farber before he jets off
 to Atlanta for a conference (where he'll see Rick Womer, I expect). I
 got the latest updates on the program and a new batch of phone camera
 shots of patients around the world. I've already started putting them
 into the book.

 I've also connected with some documentary filmmakers who are trying to
 fund a documentary on the Global Health Initiative. There'll be a
 paragraph or two about their project in the book, too. I'm hoping we
 can do a little cross-promotion with them.

 So with a little luck (and a little badgering of Doug Brewer to finish
 the foreword) I should be ready to order a test print in about a week.
 I really need to get it done by the start of may because Lisa and I
 are going to be in the UK for a couple of weeks at that point and GFM
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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts
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 Bruce Walker wrote:

Say, how's that foreword coming, Doug? :)

 Doug is right in the middle of his Master's thesis at the moment and
 very difficult to reach. I'm preparing an alternate Foreword just in
 case he can't do one.

Can't we just grab 1/2 a page of his thesis and call it a day.LOL

Dave



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 So yesterday I met with Dr. Carlos at Dana-Farber before he jets off
 to Atlanta for a conference (where he'll see Rick Womer, I expect). I
 got the latest updates on the program and a new batch of phone camera
 shots of patients around the world. I've already started putting them
 into the book.

 I've also connected with some documentary filmmakers who are trying to
 fund a documentary on the Global Health Initiative. There'll be a
 paragraph or two about their project in the book, too. I'm hoping we
 can do a little cross-promotion with them.

 So with a little luck (and a little badgering of Doug Brewer to finish
 the foreword) I should be ready to order a test print in about a week.
 I really need to get it done by the start of may because Lisa and I
 are going to be in the UK for a couple of weeks at that point and GFM
 comes up following that.

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PESO: Rite of PDML Initiation

2015-04-15 Thread Darren Addy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17158034431/

I guess I'm really in the club now.

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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread larry

Thanks for the update

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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread Jack Davis
Just for that, Ann, Mark May print
your annual image (s) upside down.
;-))

Jack

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 On Apr 15, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On 4/15/2015 11:42, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 Say, how's that foreword coming, Doug? :)
 
 Doug is right in the middle of his Master's thesis at the moment and
 very difficult to reach. I'm preparing an alternate Foreword just in
 case he can't do one.
 
 
 Yikes!  well that in itself should get him off his arse :-)
 
 ann
 
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 So yesterday I met with Dr. Carlos at Dana-Farber before he jets off
 to Atlanta for a conference (where he'll see Rick Womer, I expect). I
 got the latest updates on the program and a new batch of phone camera
 shots of patients around the world. I've already started putting them
 into the book.
 
 I've also connected with some documentary filmmakers who are trying to
 fund a documentary on the Global Health Initiative. There'll be a
 paragraph or two about their project in the book, too. I'm hoping we
 can do a little cross-promotion with them.
 
 So with a little luck (and a little badgering of Doug Brewer to finish
 the foreword) I should be ready to order a test print in about a week.
 I really need to get it done by the start of may because Lisa and I
 are going to be in the UK for a couple of weeks at that point and GFM
 comes up following that.
 
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Re: PESO - Bloodroot

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Nice closeup Mark. As it happens I shot some yesterday as well. Must be 
the season.


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One of my favorite wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bloodroot-2015

I usually miss these but today I managed to wander into the woods when
they were blooming like crazy. This time I remembered to bring the
tripod aand used the A* 200 macro. This shot is 48 stacked images shot
in AV mode  at ISO 200 at f6.7 with +1 stop exposure compensation.

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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Perhaps a tweet?

ann

On 4/15/2015 11:49, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Bruce Walker wrote:


Say, how's that foreword coming, Doug? :)


Doug is right in the middle of his Master's thesis at the moment and
very difficult to reach. I'm preparing an alternate Foreword just in
case he can't do one.


Can't we just grab 1/2 a page of his thesis and call it a day.LOL

Dave





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postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

So yesterday I met with Dr. Carlos at Dana-Farber before he jets off
to Atlanta for a conference (where he'll see Rick Womer, I expect). I
got the latest updates on the program and a new batch of phone camera
shots of patients around the world. I've already started putting them
into the book.

I've also connected with some documentary filmmakers who are trying to
fund a documentary on the Global Health Initiative. There'll be a
paragraph or two about their project in the book, too. I'm hoping we
can do a little cross-promotion with them.

So with a little luck (and a little badgering of Doug Brewer to finish
the foreword) I should be ready to order a test print in about a week.
I really need to get it done by the start of may because Lisa and I
are going to be in the UK for a couple of weeks at that point and GFM
comes up following that.

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Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Thanks Alan. These bulls are bred and raised for their power and 
agility. They seem to like their jobs and are mostly quite docile when 
there is no rider on their back. By the way these are relatively small 
Bulls at this event.


On 4/15/15 12:45 AM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:38:01 +0200
From: Alan Cc...@lantic.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*
Message-ID: 8D1542AD358948D6B6A026E5FB3F3982@AcerTM5744
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I like power shown in the Grande Jet? at the top right. Never been to a
live Rodeo.

Alan C

-Original Message-
From: Donald Guthrie
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:20 PM
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Rodeo and that's not bull*

One thing I don't see enough on PDML is rodeo photos. My remedy is to
post this 11 shot gallery from an indoor event I attended last weekend.
Lighting terrible, riders not very good, results limited, people cool,
action plentiful.

So for something a little different check these out. CC welcomed.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157651894937536/

https://flic.kr/s/aHska8FJQh



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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 4/15/2015 11:42, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bruce Walker wrote:


Say, how's that foreword coming, Doug? :)


Doug is right in the middle of his Master's thesis at the moment and
very difficult to reach. I'm preparing an alternate Foreword just in
case he can't do one.



Yikes!  well that in itself should get him off his arse :-)

ann





On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

So yesterday I met with Dr. Carlos at Dana-Farber before he jets off
to Atlanta for a conference (where he'll see Rick Womer, I expect). I
got the latest updates on the program and a new batch of phone camera
shots of patients around the world. I've already started putting them
into the book.

I've also connected with some documentary filmmakers who are trying to
fund a documentary on the Global Health Initiative. There'll be a
paragraph or two about their project in the book, too. I'm hoping we
can do a little cross-promotion with them.

So with a little luck (and a little badgering of Doug Brewer to finish
the foreword) I should be ready to order a test print in about a week.
I really need to get it done by the start of may because Lisa and I
are going to be in the UK for a couple of weeks at that point and GFM
comes up following that.

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Re: GSMR OT

2015-04-15 Thread Paul
Yeah...there's nothing like the chuffing sound of steam power at work, 
whether it's a steam traction engine or a locomotive.  As a boy we lived 
about a half block from the railroad and late at night I'd listen to the 
fast freights as they came through town and their whistles as they 
approached the grade crossings, and wonder what interesting places they 
could take me.  There's not nearly so much romance in the sound of 
today's diesels.  ;)


-p

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=eKoSoee6NDk

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Re: PESO - Bloodroot

2015-04-15 Thread Alan C
Stupid of me actually. I clicked on the link without reading your post  
only read your blog before replying. More haste, less speed!


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark C

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: PESO - Bloodroot

Thanks Alan - yep, 48 stacked images. This time I remembered to bring
the tripod so the success rate on the stacks i much higher.

Mark

On 4/15/2015 9:28 AM, Alan C wrote:

Quite exquisite, Mark. Stacked I presume?

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Mark C
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 6:17 AM
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Subject: PESO - Bloodroot

One of my favorite wildflowers -

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/bloodroot-2015

I usually miss these but today I managed to wander into the woods when
they were blooming like crazy. This time I remembered to bring the
tripod aand used the A* 200 macro. This shot is 48 stacked images shot
in AV mode  at ISO 200 at f6.7 with +1 stop exposure compensation.

Mark

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GSMR OT

2015-04-15 Thread David J Brooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=eKoSoee6NDk

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Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
According to Science it's not necessarily their rodeo riding that accounts for 
their trauma, instead it may be attributable to violent attacks within the 
species:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/neanderthals-werent-stone-age-rodeo-riders-3725795/

B


 On 15 Apr 2015, at 16:26, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 'On Campus you can spot them by their crutches  casts.'
 LOL
 I guess you've to have a certain amount of young and stupid
 before you can become old and wise.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Donald Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks Bob, there is a rodeo around here twice a year. The big one here is
 on Labor day when it usually rains. The local community college has a
 program for rodeo athletes. On Campus you can spot them by their crutches 
 casts.
 
 On 4/14/15 1:20 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 
 Message: 7
 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:43:20 -0500
 From: Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*
 Message-ID:
 
 CAOdNCb2V6Gyi4P_upx2o3O2AfJZ=3vvwrs4bw10j8n8y1ne...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
 
 Don,
 Something different and interesting.
 Looks like you made good use of your opportunities.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Donald Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 One thing I don't see enough on PDML is rodeo photos. My remedy is to
 post
 this 11 shot gallery from an indoor event I attended last weekend.
 Lighting
 terrible, riders not very good, results limited, people cool, action
 plentiful.
 
 So for something a little different check these out. CC welcomed.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157651894937536/
 
 https://flic.kr/s/aHska8FJQh
 
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Re: PESO: Rite of PDML Initiation

2015-04-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
Cormorants are best seen in fractions, and since there were 17 of them I guess 
that's a prime fraction. 

Perhaps we could get the Linnaean Society to agree that as the new collective 
term, replacing 'a slick of cormorants'.

B

 On 15 Apr 2015, at 17:55, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17158034431/
 
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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Whenever it happens, Mark. I'm looking forward to it. 
It's been a great series!

Godfrey


 On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
 So yesterday I met with Dr. Carlos at Dana-Farber before he jets off
 to Atlanta for a conference (where he'll see Rick Womer, I expect). I
 got the latest updates on the program and a new batch of phone camera
 shots of patients around the world. I've already started putting them
 into the book.
 
 I've also connected with some documentary filmmakers who are trying to
 fund a documentary on the Global Health Initiative. There'll be a
 paragraph or two about their project in the book, too. I'm hoping we
 can do a little cross-promotion with them. 
 
 So with a little luck (and a little badgering of Doug Brewer to finish
 the foreword) I should be ready to order a test print in about a week.
 I really need to get it done by the start of may because Lisa and I
 are going to be in the UK for a couple of weeks at that point and GFM
 comes up following that.
 
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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread John
Maybe because there's a large building there where he used to play his 
fiddle?


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PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
Comments (and answers or guesses to the quiz) are invited.

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photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR



I have a question for PDMLers who might have experience with that.
(I had never thought of these questions before...)

Let's consider a photo session (in studio or on location), and the 
photographed subjects (or their parents) are ordering photographs 
(specific example: individual and group photos of kids at school, sport 
teams/dance studios...).
Question: Can the photographer use these photographs elsewhere without an 
explicit model release(s)?


I would consider three sub-questions related to the purpose
1) for some explicit profit (e.g. sell to a 3rd party, including stock, 
magazine, etc.)

1a) can the studio/venue where it happend (dance studio) buy the photo?
2) for advertizing purposes (on the photographer's website, on other 
websites, in the printed ads)
3) without any profit or explicit advertisement purposes (e.g. on the 
community website, free giveaway to some news media).


I know that under this conditions (unless specified otherwise in the 
contract), the photographer keeps the copyright (even though it is a work 
for hire). But what about the rights of the people imaged (in the context 
lined out in the cases above)?



Thank you,

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread John

On 4/15/2015 4:26 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I have a question for PDMLers who might have experience with that.
(I had never thought of these questions before...)

Let's consider a photo session (in studio or on location), and the
photographed subjects (or their parents) are ordering photographs
(specific example: individual and group photos of kids at school, sport
teams/dance studios...).
Question: Can the photographer use these photographs elsewhere without
an explicit model release(s)?

I would consider three sub-questions related to the purpose
1) for some explicit profit (e.g. sell to a 3rd party, including stock,
magazine, etc.)
1a) can the studio/venue where it happend (dance studio) buy the photo?
2) for advertizing purposes (on the photographer's website, on other
websites, in the printed ads)
3) without any profit or explicit advertisement purposes (e.g. on the
community website, free giveaway to some news media).

I know that under this conditions (unless specified otherwise in the
contract), the photographer keeps the copyright (even though it is a
work for hire). But what about the rights of the people imaged (in the
context lined out in the cases above)?


Thank you,

Igor





Depends on whether you want to get sued or not.

1) You're definitely gonna' get sued.

1a) Probably won't get sued if a dance studio wants to use a group photo
in its own promotional efforts. Individual portraits might be a bit more
iffy unless the individual distinguished themselves ... won a state
level competition ...

2) Shouldn't get sued for having them on your own website or promotional
media.

3. Probably won't get sued if you're providing images to promote a
community event ... and example being a group photo of a school sports
team given to the newspaper when the team wins a city championship or an
individual who won a competition, etc.

Of course, you could always add explicit language to your contract that
holds you harmless, and avoid the whole thing.

When you're talking about photographing somebody's kids you need to CYA
all the time.

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Re: PESO: Rite of PDML Initiation

2015-04-15 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17158034431/

I guess I'm really in the club now.



Not until you post a cat photo...

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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very Good, John, but to get there one must practice, practice, practice.
G

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Maybe because there's a large building there where he used to play his
 fiddle?


 On 4/15/2015 4:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

 Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
 K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
 Comments (and answers or guesses to the quiz) are invited.

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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread P.J. Alling
Well, no firmware update for the K-5II/K-5IIs, or K50/K500 both of which 
are still displayed as being current products on the Ricoh-Imaging 
website.  In fact you can still buy these cameras, (well the IIs and K50 
anyway) through the website!


Pentax will never be taken seriously Ricoh at least gets back to the 
level of support Pentax Corp. had before Hoya bought them.  I know that 
some people don't like to hear that, but hell even Sony has better 
firmware support.


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Re: PESO: Rite of PDML Initiation

2015-04-15 Thread P.J. Alling

You need to get closer.
   -- The Ghost of Frank Capra.

On 4/15/2015 12:55 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17158034431/

I guess I'm really in the club now.




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PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
Comments (and answers or guesses to the quiz) are invited.

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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

Well, no firmware update for the K-5II/K-5IIs, or K50/K500 both of which 
are still displayed as being current products on the Ricoh-Imaging 
website.  In fact you can still buy these cameras, (well the IIs and K50 
anyway) through the website!

Pentax will never be taken seriously Ricoh at least gets back to the 
level of support Pentax Corp. had before Hoya bought them.  I know that 
some people don't like to hear that, but hell even Sony has better 
firmware support.

What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel
needs updating?
 
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Re: GSMR OT

2015-04-15 Thread John

No need to hurry. The steam locomotive is still undergoing restoration.

They were saying 12 - 18 months back in March 2014. That means August
2015 at the earliest, and I expect they will need some time for testing
before finally putting it back into service.

If they're able to maintain their schedule, it might be back in service
in time for fall color in the Nantahala Gorge.

Also consider the North Carolina Transportation Museum in Spencer, NC.
It's based in the old Southern Railroad Shops at Spencer, NC (where the
Old 97 was headed when it jumped the tracks in Danville).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3afP13L3k

They're restoring a Norfolk  Western Class J 611 Steam Locomotive for
the Virginia Museum of Transportation in Roanoke, Virginia.

http://nctrans.org/Plan-Visit/FIRE-UP-611!.aspx

I think it's supposed to be finished some time this spring (2015). If I
find out when  what route it's going to take, I'll pass it along to the
list.

The Virginia Museum of Transportation is in Roanoke, close by to the O.
Winston Link Museum.

http://www.vmt.org/index.html

http://www.linkmuseum.org/

Tweetsie Railroad in Boone is right up the Blue Ridge Parkway from
Grandfather Mountain.

It uses a surviving narrow gauge locomotive  track segment from the
East Tennessee  Western North Carolina Railroad for an amusement park.
They have a second operational steam locomotive in addition to the
original #12.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweetsie_Railroad

There's a sister railroad at Dollywood in Pigeon Forge, TN. They've got
a couple of operational steam locomotives.

Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum:

http://www.tvrail.com/

Those are all the ones I can think of that are reasonably convenient to
visit if you happened to be in the neighborhood of Grandfather Mountain.

On 4/15/2015 2:06 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=eKoSoee6NDk

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Re: PESO: Rite of PDML Initiation

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Congratulations. Sadly it is a very clear picture with a nice setting. 
Oh the humanity.


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:55:21 -0500
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Subject: PESO: Rite of PDML Initiation
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/17158034431/

I guess I'm really in the club now.

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Re:Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie
Dammed if I don't learn something new every day. Course I'm not sure 
what good comes from this particular research.


On 4/15/15 2:26 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:52:37 +0100
From: Bob W-PDMLp...@web-options.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Rodeo and that's not bull*
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According to Science it's not necessarily their rodeo riding that accounts for 
their trauma, instead it may be attributable to violent attacks within the 
species:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/neanderthals-werent-stone-age-rodeo-riders-3725795/

B



On 15 Apr 2015, at 16:26, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com  wrote:

'On Campus you can spot them by their crutches  casts.'
LOL
I guess you've to have a certain amount of young and stupid
before you can become old and wise.
Regards,  Bob S.


On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Donald Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:
Thanks Bob, there is a rodeo around here twice a year. The big one here is
on Labor day when it usually rains. The local community college has a
program for rodeo athletes. On Campus you can spot them by their crutches 
casts.


On 4/14/15 1:20 PM,pdml-requ...@pdml.net  wrote:

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Re: PESO: Waiting Room

2015-04-15 Thread Mark C

Good one - nice slide of life.

On 4/14/2015 11:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Waiting for the train at theNew Jersey Transit waiting room:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18004847
K-01, DA 1:2.8 40 mm XS
Comments are invited.

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Mark C
If you are publishing the images for commercial usage (i.e. - making 
money from them) - you should have a release. I think all of your 
example except perhaps a subset of #3 would fall into that category.


With #3 - if the usage was editorial or journalistic a release may not 
be needed. Take a photo of people enjoying a concert in the park - no 
release would be needed to give the photo to a newspaper to print in a 
news account about the concert. A release would be needed to give the 
photo to the band that was playing to use in their promotional materials.


As a general rule of thumb - if someone is profiting from the commercial 
use of another person's likeness, a release is needed. General promotion 
of a product or fund raising by non profits would fall into that 
category. release not needed for  journalism or editorial use.


There are lots of nuances and shades of grey - if you are dealing with 
school events and minors I'd suggest being cautious - parents can be 
pretty touchy about things involving their kids (and more power to them.)


Mark

On 4/15/2015 4:26 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I have a question for PDMLers who might have experience with that.
(I had never thought of these questions before...)

Let's consider a photo session (in studio or on location), and the 
photographed subjects (or their parents) are ordering photographs 
(specific example: individual and group photos of kids at school, 
sport teams/dance studios...).
Question: Can the photographer use these photographs elsewhere without 
an explicit model release(s)?


I would consider three sub-questions related to the purpose
1) for some explicit profit (e.g. sell to a 3rd party, including 
stock, magazine, etc.)

1a) can the studio/venue where it happend (dance studio) buy the photo?
2) for advertizing purposes (on the photographer's website, on other 
websites, in the printed ads)
3) without any profit or explicit advertisement purposes (e.g. on the 
community website, free giveaway to some news media).


I know that under this conditions (unless specified otherwise in the 
contract), the photographer keeps the copyright (even though it is a 
work for hire). But what about the rights of the people imaged (in the 
context lined out in the cases above)?



Thank you,

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Bill

On 15/04/2015 6:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Regardless of the legality, I think taking photos of people under
specific conditions, like portraiture, under which the clients have
perfectly reasonable, fixed assumptions of the purpose and intended
use of the photos, and then using the photos for something else is a
pretty shitty thing to do. So I wouldn't do it.




When I was in the wedding game, my contract had a clause that I would be 
able to use their pictures in my portfolio.

It was one of the must agree to clauses in my contract.

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Regardless of the legality, I think taking photos of people under
specific conditions, like portraiture, under which the clients have
perfectly reasonable, fixed assumptions of the purpose and intended
use of the photos, and then using the photos for something else is a
pretty shitty thing to do. So I wouldn't do it.
 
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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread Donald Guthrie

Well some place had to be called that. (Don not a NY native.)

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PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread Charles Robinson

 On Apr 15, 2015, at 16:54 , Igor Roshchin pdml...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 Mark Roberts Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:11:19 -0700 wrote:
 
 What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel
 needs updating?
 
 Stability improvements. :-)
 
 On a serious note, there is one thing I wish would be fixed (but it never 
 will be), call it a bug or a feature:
 1-Hz clicking in the videos with certain converters/players, including 
 YouTube.
 It's because Pentax video triggers something (bug/feature) in the ubiquitous  
 audio library (ffmpeg).
 It causes a headache that I have to run a converter on each video before 
 uploading it to YouTube.
 
 AFAIK, Pentax has never even publicly acknowledged this problem.
 It is present in a bunch of models, including K-5s, PS', and I suspect K-3, 
 but don't know for sure.
 

I have experienced the same with K-7 videos, I believe.  Annoying!

I've never known the WHY though.

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Bill

On 15/04/2015 2:26 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I have a question for PDMLers who might have experience with that.
(I had never thought of these questions before...)

Let's consider a photo session (in studio or on location), and the
photographed subjects (or their parents) are ordering photographs
(specific example: individual and group photos of kids at school, sport
teams/dance studios...).
Question: Can the photographer use these photographs elsewhere without
an explicit model release(s)?


Technically no, as a matter of course, if you don't have a release, you 
probably don't want to use the images.

In practice, providing the usage is non commercial in nature, yes.
As always, legal advise off the internet is worth what you pay for it.

bill



I would consider three sub-questions related to the purpose
1) for some explicit profit (e.g. sell to a 3rd party, including stock,
magazine, etc.)
1a) can the studio/venue where it happend (dance studio) buy the photo?
2) for advertizing purposes (on the photographer's website, on other
websites, in the printed ads)
3) without any profit or explicit advertisement purposes (e.g. on the
community website, free giveaway to some news media).

I know that under this conditions (unless specified otherwise in the
contract), the photographer keeps the copyright (even though it is a
work for hire). But what about the rights of the people imaged (in the
context lined out in the cases above)?


Thank you,

Igor






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Re: PESO: Central Park

2015-04-15 Thread Mark C

A pleasant scene!

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Early Spring in Central Park:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18004244size=lg
K-01, DA 1:2.8 40mm XS
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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread Igor Roshchin

Mark Roberts Wed, 15 Apr 2015 13:11:19 -0700 wrote:


What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel

needs updating?

Stability improvements. :-)

On a serious note, there is one thing I wish would be fixed (but it never 
will be), call it a bug or a feature:

1-Hz clicking in the videos with certain converters/players, including YouTube.
It's because Pentax video triggers something (bug/feature) in the 
ubiquitous  audio library (ffmpeg).
It causes a headache that I have to run a converter on each video before 
uploading it to YouTube.


AFAIK, Pentax has never even publicly acknowledged this problem.
It is present in a bunch of models, including K-5s, PS', and I suspect 
K-3, but don't know for sure.


Igor Roshchin
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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 I refrained, with some show of restraint in my reply, from quoting the
 traditional answer to the how do you get there question :-)

But I did not.  G

Carnegie Hall is a great institution, but not very photogenic.

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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Whenever it happens, Mark. I'm looking forward to it. 
It's been a great series!

I just did some browsing through the first six books and I'm quite
impressed with the body of work we've created. There's some really
good photography in there. And it's also an interesting survey of
photography in the early 21st century. I really wish we'd started it a
few years earlier to catch more of the transition between film and
digital.
 
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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Bill

On 15/04/2015 6:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bill wrote:


On 15/04/2015 6:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Regardless of the legality, I think taking photos of people under
specific conditions, like portraiture, under which the clients have
perfectly reasonable, fixed assumptions of the purpose and intended
use of the photos, and then using the photos for something else is a
pretty shitty thing to do. So I wouldn't do it.


When I was in the wedding game, my contract had a clause that I would be
able to use their pictures in my portfolio.
It was one of the must agree to clauses in my contract.


That's pretty reasonable.



As an addendum, I actually had one wedding refuse the clause.

bill

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR



John, Bill, Mark and Mark!-Mark,
:-)

Thank you, guys for your thoughts. Those pretty much confirming what
I had been thinking. In this particular situation, the question was not
originated from my photographic efforts, but rather from thinking it from
the client's side.

At two different places for kids, they had photo-sessions (one - couple
of weeks ago, and the other one - tonight).
In both cases, there was no contract, what-so-ever. In the previous one, I
knew from the last year that the photographer is very mediocre (and his
assistant is incompetent and stupid, borderlining rude), so we said no
from the beginning.

 For today's session, it was promising: Looking at the group photos from
the last year (posted at the dance studio, where it was happening), we
thought there is some potential, and the photographer sounded reasonable
when I spoke with her. So we decided to try, especially since our daughter
was excited about it.

But it all got me thinking about the questions I asked...
Again, thanks to all who responded!

Igor

PS. I will send a separate message with some really geeky followup 
thoughts.




On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I have a question for PDMLers who might have experience with that.
(I had never thought of these questions before...)

Let's consider a photo session (in studio or on location), and the 
photographed subjects (or their parents) are ordering photographs (specific 
example: individual and group photos of kids at school, sport teams/dance 
studios...).
Question: Can the photographer use these photographs elsewhere without an 
explicit model release(s)?


I would consider three sub-questions related to the purpose
1) for some explicit profit (e.g. sell to a 3rd party, including stock, 
magazine, etc.)

1a) can the studio/venue where it happend (dance studio) buy the photo?
2) for advertizing purposes (on the photographer's website, on other 
websites, in the printed ads)
3) without any profit or explicit advertisement purposes (e.g. on the 
community website, free giveaway to some news media).


I know that under this conditions (unless specified otherwise in the 
contract), the photographer keeps the copyright (even though it is a work for 
hire). But what about the rights of the people imaged (in the context lined 
out in the cases above)?



Thank you,

Igor





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Re: Help! problem with K-5 settings... GOT IT -

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ok I found where to get it back to the correct stuff..

thanks, Philip -

Can't imagine how I got it messed up
interstingly, though, the incorrectness was very fitting for one of my shots

ann

On 4/16/2015 01:12, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Ok
I found how to change that stuff but when I use the slider to change the
tone (where It should say +- it says -- or a color...)

and when I shoot the color os off. :-(

ann

On 4/16/2015 01:01, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

But what I want to do is unset it - I still don't see where to do that
on the camera..

What did I press by accident to change those settings that i didn't even
know existed?



On 4/16/2015 00:04, Philip Northeast wrote:

Its on page 222  setting the image finishing tone

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 16/04/2015 1:50 pm, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Top shows info for a photo where the color is totally off
bottom shows a photo that had correct color.

I don't understand the iconography, for one thing... Pretty sure
I simply pressed some levers or buttons at some point and that
caused the problem -

can't figure it out from the menu or the manual
I've been adjusting colors in elements for a couple of days
not looking at the info then it was really obvious today..

I took the photos of the backs of the camera just placing it on the
flatbed scanner and then circling the area of info showing the problem.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/

Thanks!

ann










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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread P.J. Alling

On 4/15/2015 4:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


Well, no firmware update for the K-5II/K-5IIs, or K50/K500 both of which
are still displayed as being current products on the Ricoh-Imaging
website.  In fact you can still buy these cameras, (well the IIs and K50
anyway) through the website!

Pentax will never be taken seriously Ricoh at least gets back to the
level of support Pentax Corp. had before Hoya bought them.  I know that
some people don't like to hear that, but hell even Sony has better
firmware support.

What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel
needs updating?
  

Support for the new lenses.

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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread John

If you Take the A Train, you can get off at Columbus Circle.

On 4/15/2015 4:57 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Very Good, John, but to get there one must practice, practice, practice.
G

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:

Maybe because there's a large building there where he used to play his
fiddle?


On 4/15/2015 4:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
Comments (and answers or guesses to the quiz) are invited.

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR



 Reading previous responses, I had another old thought brought up to the 
surface (and some corollaries).
1. If a photographer takes a photograph of person A, (a photo 
session or a candid portrait), A buys (can buy) that photo. In the absence 
of any explicit contract clause related to this, can yet another person, 
B, buy the photo of A?


From the logic discussed in response to my earlier questions, - the answer 

is No (or rather not really).

If both A and B are in the photograph (a group photo), - then both A 
and B can buy it. Now, if we consider the case in between the two, - how 
much [*] of B must be in the photo to be able to buy the photo of A?

[*] - What portion, e.g. a head, a portion of it, a hand, ..., or, -
in what capacity (in the foreground, in the background).
While this is primarily an academic consideration, - there could be a 
practical case. E.g. if A is a celebrity walking on the street, and B is 
passing by while the photograph is taken, managing to get into the 
picture.  At what point can B _legally_ buy that photo?



2. And yet a different branch of the same thought process is related to 
the studio question (1a in the previous message, below). I guess there is 
a way how the studio can argue the legality: If the instructor is present 
in the group photo, then the photo can be legally purchased by (or on 
behalf) of the instructor. Then, it is now the relation between the studio 
and its employee. So, assuming that the instructor does not object the 
deal (sort of, the instructor hand the picture on the studio's wall), then 
it is ok.


[The legality of such a transaction between the instructor and the studio, 
especially since it involves a financial consideration, namely the salary, 
is a grey area; it is too complicated to discuss it here.]




3. And finally, can a third party, C, _legally_ comission (a financial 
transaction) a photo (say, as a piece of art) of a person A without a 
release from A? (And not for the purpose of news publication.)
Because an alternative view of the same question is: can the 
photographer make money legally from the photograph of A without a 
release? And, from what I know, the answer to the latter formulation of 
the question is no.


If the answer to the first formulation is no (C cannot legally 
comission a photo of A without a permission from A), then some might 
already see a legal solution to that situation:
C comissions the photographer to take a photo of A, while asking B to be 
in it. Then B allows C to have the photo that he legally buys from C.


[My inquisitive mind is starting thinking: in that case, would it be legal 
for C to cut off a portion of the photo that contains B. But let's not 
venture into that.]



 In all of this, I assume that the photo is otherwise taken legally (e.g. 
on a public property, in a situation without an expectation of privacy, 
not presenting the person in a wrong way, etc.)



I would be curious to hear what different PDMLers think about these 
logical exercises. (I hope that maybe even the lurking Pentaxian, laywer, 
M.G. would share his informal opinion.)


Cheers,

Igor



On Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




I have a question for PDMLers who might have experience with that.
(I had never thought of these questions before...)

Let's consider a photo session (in studio or on location), and the 
photographed subjects (or their parents) are ordering photographs (specific 
example: individual and group photos of kids at school, sport teams/dance 
studios...).
Question: Can the photographer use these photographs elsewhere without an 
explicit model release(s)?


I would consider three sub-questions related to the purpose
1) for some explicit profit (e.g. sell to a 3rd party, including stock, 
magazine, etc.)

1a) can the studio/venue where it happend (dance studio) buy the photo?
2) for advertizing purposes (on the photographer's website, on other 
websites, in the printed ads)
3) without any profit or explicit advertisement purposes (e.g. on the 
community website, free giveaway to some news media).


I know that under this conditions (unless specified otherwise in the 
contract), the photographer keeps the copyright (even though it is a work for 
hire). But what about the rights of the people imaged (in the context lined 
out in the cases above)?



Thank you,

Igor





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Help! problem with K-5 settings...

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Top shows info for a photo where the color is totally off
bottom shows a photo that had correct color.

I don't understand the iconography, for one thing... Pretty sure
I simply pressed some levers or buttons at some point and that
caused the problem -

can't figure it out from the menu or the manual
I've been adjusting colors in elements for a couple of days
not looking at the info then it was really obvious today..

I took the photos of the backs of the camera just placing it on the
flatbed scanner and then circling the area of info showing the problem.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/

Thanks!

ann


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Re: Help! problem with K-5 settings...

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ok
I found how to change that stuff but when I use the slider to change the 
tone (where It should say +- it says -- or a color...)


and when I shoot the color os off. :-(

ann

On 4/16/2015 01:01, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

But what I want to do is unset it - I still don't see where to do that
on the camera..

What did I press by accident to change those settings that i didn't even
know existed?



On 4/16/2015 00:04, Philip Northeast wrote:

Its on page 222  setting the image finishing tone

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 16/04/2015 1:50 pm, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Top shows info for a photo where the color is totally off
bottom shows a photo that had correct color.

I don't understand the iconography, for one thing... Pretty sure
I simply pressed some levers or buttons at some point and that
caused the problem -

can't figure it out from the menu or the manual
I've been adjusting colors in elements for a couple of days
not looking at the info then it was really obvious today..

I took the photos of the backs of the camera just placing it on the
flatbed scanner and then circling the area of info showing the problem.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/

Thanks!

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread P.J. Alling

When I shot the Whitney Center stills which this is from

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whitneycentergroupphoto.html

I was given explicit written permission that I could use any and all 
images for self promotion.  I'm not allowed to sell prints per. se.  but 
I can make prints and give them away as promotional material.


This one by the way was blown up to mini billboard size and for while 
graced the side of a bus.




On 4/15/2015 6:41 PM, Bill wrote:

On 15/04/2015 2:26 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I have a question for PDMLers who might have experience with that.
(I had never thought of these questions before...)

Let's consider a photo session (in studio or on location), and the
photographed subjects (or their parents) are ordering photographs
(specific example: individual and group photos of kids at school, sport
teams/dance studios...).
Question: Can the photographer use these photographs elsewhere without
an explicit model release(s)?


Technically no, as a matter of course, if you don't have a release, 
you probably don't want to use the images.

In practice, providing the usage is non commercial in nature, yes.
As always, legal advise off the internet is worth what you pay for it.

bill



I would consider three sub-questions related to the purpose
1) for some explicit profit (e.g. sell to a 3rd party, including stock,
magazine, etc.)
1a) can the studio/venue where it happend (dance studio) buy the photo?
2) for advertizing purposes (on the photographer's website, on other
websites, in the printed ads)
3) without any profit or explicit advertisement purposes (e.g. on the
community website, free giveaway to some news media).

I know that under this conditions (unless specified otherwise in the
contract), the photographer keeps the copyright (even though it is a
work for hire). But what about the rights of the people imaged (in the
context lined out in the cases above)?


Thank you,

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Very useful tutorial on soft-proof process in LR

2015-04-15 Thread Igor PDML-StR


I found that this tutorial is very useful if you want to use soft-proof in 
LR (or need to figure out some options):

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/develop-module-options.html

And it has a text and a video, but you don't have to watch the video
if you don't want to, - as the video repeats the most essential portion of 
the written text.


I thought it might be useful to some other PDMLers.
And again, thanks to Paul, whose question pushed me to look into some 
options of this functionality.



Igor


PS. Unfortunately, soft-proof is not available for the ID plate and 
watermarks, as those cannot be seen in the Develop module, as far as I 
can find.



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Re: Help! problem with K-5 settings...

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
But what I want to do is unset it - I still don't see where to do that 
on the camera..


What did I press by accident to change those settings that i didn't even 
know existed?




On 4/16/2015 00:04, Philip Northeast wrote:

Its on page 222  setting the image finishing tone

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 16/04/2015 1:50 pm, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Top shows info for a photo where the color is totally off
bottom shows a photo that had correct color.

I don't understand the iconography, for one thing... Pretty sure
I simply pressed some levers or buttons at some point and that
caused the problem -

can't figure it out from the menu or the manual
I've been adjusting colors in elements for a couple of days
not looking at the info then it was really obvious today..

I took the photos of the backs of the camera just placing it on the
flatbed scanner and then circling the area of info showing the problem.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/

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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote:

On 15/04/2015 6:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Regardless of the legality, I think taking photos of people under
 specific conditions, like portraiture, under which the clients have
 perfectly reasonable, fixed assumptions of the purpose and intended
 use of the photos, and then using the photos for something else is a
 pretty shitty thing to do. So I wouldn't do it.

When I was in the wedding game, my contract had a clause that I would be 
able to use their pictures in my portfolio.
It was one of the must agree to clauses in my contract.

That's pretty reasonable.
 
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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

On 4/15/2015 4:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 P.J. Alling wrote:

 Well, no firmware update for the K-5II/K-5IIs, or K50/K500 both of which
 are still displayed as being current products on the Ricoh-Imaging
 website.  In fact you can still buy these cameras, (well the IIs and K50
 anyway) through the website!

 Pentax will never be taken seriously Ricoh at least gets back to the
 level of support Pentax Corp. had before Hoya bought them.  I know that
 some people don't like to hear that, but hell even Sony has better
 firmware support.
 What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel
 needs updating?
   
Support for the new lenses.

New lenses aren't supported?
 
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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread Bill

On 15/04/2015 6:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


On 4/15/2015 4:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


Well, no firmware update for the K-5II/K-5IIs, or K50/K500 both of which
are still displayed as being current products on the Ricoh-Imaging
website.  In fact you can still buy these cameras, (well the IIs and K50
anyway) through the website!

Pentax will never be taken seriously Ricoh at least gets back to the
level of support Pentax Corp. had before Hoya bought them.  I know that
some people don't like to hear that, but hell even Sony has better
firmware support.

What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel
needs updating?


Support for the new lenses.


New lenses aren't supported?




The K3 firmware speaks to optimizing the performance of the camera for 
the new lenses.

Whatever that means.

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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread P.J. Alling

On 4/15/2015 10:21 PM, Bill wrote:

On 15/04/2015 6:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


On 4/15/2015 4:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:

Well, no firmware update for the K-5II/K-5IIs, or K50/K500 both of 
which

are still displayed as being current products on the Ricoh-Imaging
website.  In fact you can still buy these cameras, (well the IIs 
and K50

anyway) through the website!

Pentax will never be taken seriously Ricoh at least gets back to the
level of support Pentax Corp. had before Hoya bought them.  I know 
that

some people don't like to hear that, but hell even Sony has better
firmware support.

What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel
needs updating?


Support for the new lenses.


New lenses aren't supported?




The K3 firmware speaks to optimizing the performance of the camera for 
the new lenses.

Whatever that means.

bill

 Out of curiosity I read the descriptions for the updates for each 
camera, and that's a bullet point on each page.




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Re: Help! problem with K-5 settings...

2015-04-15 Thread Stanley Halpin
Or maybe 267 Applying the Digital Filter.

stan

On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:04 AM, Philip Northeast rnort...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Its on page 222  setting the image finishing tone
 
 Philip Northeast
 
 www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au
 
 On 16/04/2015 1:50 pm, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 Top shows info for a photo where the color is totally off
 bottom shows a photo that had correct color.
 
 I don't understand the iconography, for one thing... Pretty sure
 I simply pressed some levers or buttons at some point and that
 caused the problem -
 
 can't figure it out from the menu or the manual
 I've been adjusting colors in elements for a couple of days
 not looking at the info then it was really obvious today..
 
 I took the photos of the backs of the camera just placing it on the
 flatbed scanner and then circling the area of info showing the problem.
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: photo-session photographs - can a photographer use those elsewhere?

2015-04-15 Thread Bill

On 15/04/2015 6:13 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Bill wrote:


On 15/04/2015 6:04 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Regardless of the legality, I think taking photos of people under
specific conditions, like portraiture, under which the clients have
perfectly reasonable, fixed assumptions of the purpose and intended
use of the photos, and then using the photos for something else is a
pretty shitty thing to do. So I wouldn't do it.


When I was in the wedding game, my contract had a clause that I would be
able to use their pictures in my portfolio.
It was one of the must agree to clauses in my contract.


That's pretty reasonable.



I'm Canadian.
What else would you expect?

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Re: Help! problem with K-5 settings...

2015-04-15 Thread Philip Northeast

Its on page 222  setting the image finishing tone

Philip Northeast

www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au

On 16/04/2015 1:50 pm, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Top shows info for a photo where the color is totally off
bottom shows a photo that had correct color.

I don't understand the iconography, for one thing... Pretty sure
I simply pressed some levers or buttons at some point and that
caused the problem -

can't figure it out from the menu or the manual
I've been adjusting colors in elements for a couple of days
not looking at the info then it was really obvious today..

I took the photos of the backs of the camera just placing it on the
flatbed scanner and then circling the area of info showing the problem.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/Stuff-to-show-PDML-for-various/n-vWHWf/

Thanks!

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Re: Photo Annual update

2015-04-15 Thread Alan C

That could still be done retrospectively.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Photo Annual update

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Whenever it happens, Mark. I'm looking forward to it.
It's been a great series!


I just did some browsing through the first six books and I'm quite
impressed with the body of work we've created. There's some really
good photography in there. And it's also an interesting survey of
photography in the early 21st century. I really wish we'd started it a
few years earlier to catch more of the transition between film and
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Re: PESO: Central Park

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 A pleasant scene!

Thanks, Mark.

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Re: PESO: Waiting Room

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking and commenting , Mark.

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Good one - nice slide of life.


 On 4/14/2015 11:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Waiting for the train at theNew Jersey Transit waiting room:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18004847
 K-01, DA 1:2.8 40 mm XS
 Comments are invited.

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Re: Firmware updates:K-S1, K-S2, and K-3

2015-04-15 Thread P.J. Alling
Read the update description.  The new 70-200 and 150-450 zooms require a 
change to the K-3, K-S1 and K-S2 firmware.  All of those cameras have 
more recent updates to their firmware than the K-5II or K-50.  If they 
needed updates, most likely the K 5* cameras do to.


I dare say that both the K-5II[s] and K-50 are more enthusiast oriented 
than the K-S1 and likely to be used as backups if not primary cameras 
for years to come.


Just to rub salt in the wound, I doubt that many K-01 cameras will ever 
sport either of those lenses.


Ricoh/Pentax talks a good game about backward compatibility, but even 
when it comes to the relatively easy stuff, doesn't seem to follow through.





On 4/15/2015 8:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


On 4/15/2015 4:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

P.J. Alling wrote:


Well, no firmware update for the K-5II/K-5IIs, or K50/K500 both of which
are still displayed as being current products on the Ricoh-Imaging
website.  In fact you can still buy these cameras, (well the IIs and K50
anyway) through the website!

Pentax will never be taken seriously Ricoh at least gets back to the
level of support Pentax Corp. had before Hoya bought them.  I know that
some people don't like to hear that, but hell even Sony has better
firmware support.

What is it about the K-5II/K-5IIs and K50/K500 firmware that you feel
needs updating?
   

Support for the new lenses.

New lenses aren't supported?
  



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Re: GSMR OT

2015-04-15 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=eKoSoee6NDk

on my list of to do's




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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Named for the violinist.  and you are near Carnegie Hall

But you knew that, Dan :-)

ann


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PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
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PESO: A Face in the Crowd 1

2015-04-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have revised the image in accordance with comments from AnnSan:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005368size=lg

comments and critiques are invited.

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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I refrained, with some show of restraint in my reply, from quoting the
traditional answer to the how do you get there question :-)

ann


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Very Good, John, but to get there one must practice, practice, practice.
G

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:

Maybe because there's a large building there where he used to play his
fiddle?


On 4/15/2015 4:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
Comments (and answers or guesses to the quiz) are invited.

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Re: PESO: A Face in the Crowd 1

2015-04-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Made comments off list while I was in lurk mode...
but Dan didn't quite do what I meant - may be my poor
verbal skills -

I'll grab the first one and show ya



ann

On 4/15/2015 17:13, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I have revised the image in accordance with comments from AnnSan:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005368size=lg

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Re: PQESO A very Stern Place

2015-04-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I refrained, with some show of restraint in my reply, from quoting the
traditional answer to the how do you get there question :-)

That would have elicited a stern reprimand.


On 4/15/2015 16:57, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Very Good, John, but to get there one must practice, practice, practice.
 G

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 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Maybe because there's a large building there where he used to play his
 fiddle?


 On 4/15/2015 4:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 PQESO = Photo Quiz Every So Often.  G

 Why is West 57th Street in Manhattan called Isaac Stern Place?
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18005331size=lg
 K-01,, DA 1:1.8 40 mm XS
 Comments (and answers or guesses to the quiz) are invited.

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