Re: PESO: Vog Sunset

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/2/16, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The sunset, two nights ago, as seen from Charlies Young Beach Park on Maui:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18181962=lg
>K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
>Comments are invited.

Really nice Dan, great job. Like it!

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Re: PESO - 'Chipping Sparrow'

[Ken Waller]

Thanks for the comments Dan.

The Chipping Sparrow is one of the most common birds year round in my area - 
must be a hardy little fellow.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Chipping Sparrow'



He is a tough little dude, isn't he?

That is a fine image in every respect.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 11:49 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Thanks Christine, glad you enjoyed the image.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila"

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Chipping Sparrow'



Gosh, Ken, that’s pretty.  The coloring is wonderful, position of bird
nice, no distracting backgrounds—just all around great!

Cheers, Christine



On Jan 29, 2016, at 4:01 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Taken awhile back with *istD & 600 f4.0 FA.

A Chipping Sparrow caught during a raging blizzard

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18177745=lg

Comments appreciated

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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[P.J. Alling]

A strong secondary market is good for Ricoh, (nee Pentax), true they 
would prefer everyone buy new products, but older products that stand 
the test of time, are good advertising, (not that Pentax is known to 
have much of an advertising footprint these days), and if a user 
upgrades and finances that upgrade by selling older equipment, that 
benefits the company as well.  Once someone is locked into the a system 
it becomes just that much more difficult to switch.




On 2/1/2016 12:44 PM, John wrote:

100% of anything I buy used does not go towards the purchase of new
gear from Pentax. But what's best for Pentax isn't always what's best
for me.

During the last decade or so, Pentax hasn't always made the lenses I
want available, so buying used or buying from a third party lens
manufacturer has been my only option.


On 1/31/2016 11:55 PM, Kim Tang wrote:

I agree. Much of what you say maybe be true.

But must ask. Some percent of used sales not going to fund purchase
of brand new equipment from Pentax. Do you agree?


Some is simply selling to bring dollars. Others could be to fund
purchase of non-Pentax gear.

So if majority of people follow in same, then Pentax sells less new
items at highest profit margin.

The best thing for Pentax is if users consistently upgrade and
purchase largely new Pentax items.

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RE: OT: NYC View

[John Coyle]

I did the same as Bob, went on street view in the location suggested (why are 
there two Water and
Front streets on opposite sides of the river!) and the image had a very faint 
outline of the Empire
State building, exactly as the referenced image did: I suspect it was enhanced 
in PS.


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p.s. ... I didn't see this link of John's earlier... with all the thumbnails in 
google.
Now I'm thinking the one (and only ) day I was in that spot the weather hid the 
Empire
StateBuilding...
I took my photo (darkside camera) in February, 2008... didn't have a lot of 
photos on that card.. I
used to take a bus to brooklyn that doesnt exist anymore, shop on atlantic ave 
and take a train back
(or vice versa) - that way paying only one senior fare if I do it fast enough 
(transfer free within
two hours)  The other shots on the card with that date show wet sidewalks and 
fog.

Funny thing is, I'd never seen photos from that perspective before... 
and I found the spot by accident. Also possible I walked across the Brooklyn 
Bridge that day...

ann (embarrased by my assertion that the view wasnt possible - although... I 
still wonder if he
could have gotten that much of the buildings in the street and the enlarged 
building.. maybe
selectively enlarged the building in photoshop?

ann

On 1/31/2016 5:33 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Well that explains why I didn't see it back when I took mine :-)
>
> ann
>
> On 1/31/2016 4:34 PM, John wrote:
>> I think you're about a block too far back. It looks like you were 
>> between Front St & York St.
>>
>> I think you need to be between Water St & Front St to be able to 
>> frame the Empire State Building inside the bridge supports the way 
>> the photographer in Dan's found image did. To get the angle right, 
>> you'd have to be standing out in the street, down near the front of 
>> those school buses.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/Empire-DUMBO
>>
>> On 1/31/2016 2:52 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>> No it isn't
>>>
>>> Here is my shot from the same place  - believe me, if I could have 
>>> seen the Empire state fromthere it would have been in
>>>
>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/
>>> i-RNcjf6K/A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2016 1:20 PM, David Parsons wrote:
 It's legit.
 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7029836,-73.9895968,3a,75y,354.23h,
 95.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSteR_VZMWJQK9fsWUNG-qA!2e0!7i13312!8i665
 6




 On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
  wrote:
> Ann, is this view even possible?
> http://themetapicture.com/photogenic-nyc-view/
>
> or just another photoshop?
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>>
>>
>
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Re: C'mon boys and girls, cough up your photos!

[Larry Colen]

Oops, just as I finished sending, I noticed that I sent a slight miscrop 
of the photo, can I resubmit?


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Get your photos uploaded now and avoid the last-minute rush (end of
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Re: OT: Assimilated by the BORG

[P.J. Alling]

Talk about stupid web design, it thinks my desktop is a mobile device...

On 2/1/2016 5:05 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Here's one for people who really appreciate stupid web design:

http://bradfordodeonrescuegroup.co.uk/blog/mobile-users/

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Re: OT: Assimilated by the BORG

[Bob W-PDML]

The desktop site is the url before '/blog'; there's a redirect to the 
problematic page.

The problem with it is that it gives you nothing if you're on a mobile device. 
I'd quite like to read the stuff on the site - that's why I followed the link 
in the first place. 

I accept that small organisations without professional IT may not be able to do 
responsive design (although these days it should be the default even on 
cheap/free CMSes), but they haven't even given me the choice of a sub-optimal 
experience, just a flat out "no, we won't let you see our site at all", and I 
can't be arsed to go upstairs, switch on the desktop machine and go hunting for 
their desktop site.

B

> On 1 Feb 2016, at 22:47, John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> The link given is the problem - take out the "mobile-users" text and you get 
> to the desktop version!
> 
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Talk about stupid web design, it thinks my desktop is a mobile device...
> 
>> On 2/1/2016 5:05 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> Here's one for people who really appreciate stupid web design:
>> 
>> http://bradfordodeonrescuegroup.co.uk/blog/mobile-users/
>> 
>> B
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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[P.J. Alling]

If it was just the PDML that would be a fix.  It happens with more than 
just the list.


On 2/1/2016 12:01 PM, Paul wrote:

This on seems to work for me...

 Matches: list:(pdml.pdml.net)
 Do this: Never send it to Spam

-p

On 1/31/2016 5:37 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM, P.J. Alling 
 wrote:



I wish I could somehow turn gmail's spam filtering off, Firefox does a
pretty good job of rerouting spam, to it's spam folder, it's much more
convenient, and it actually learns what I consider to be spam.


What if you create a filter with a trivial condition (like "Larger
than 1 byte" or "Does not contain 'sdhadljfh348hfhsdlfjh4h237') with
the action "Never send it to Spam"?






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Re: PESO: Vog Sunset

[P.J. Alling]

Well that's to be expected whey you're breathing sulfuric acid, sulfur 
dioxide and other things, not meant for humane consumption.


Sure is pretty though.

On 2/1/2016 12:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

The sunset, two nights ago, as seen from Charlies Young Beach Park on Maui:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18181962=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.

The color of this sunset is produced by "vog" from the Big Island,
which had been drifting over to Maui because a high pressure area was
diverting the usual trade winds from the Northeast.

Vog isresults when sulfur dioxide and other gases and particles
emitted by an erupting volcano react with oxygen and moisture in the
presence of sunlight. The word is a portmanteau of the words
"volcanic", "smog", and "fog".

Vog makes for colorful sunsets, but can cause headaches, watery eyes,
sore throats, or even breathing difficulties if it is concentrated
enough or persists for a long period or time.  On Maui, it is usually
quite mild compared to what can occur on certain portions of the
Island of Hawaii (the Big Island).

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Re: PESO: Vog Sunset

[Daniel J. Matyola]

It is only a minor annoyance here, and only for those suffering from
asthma or some similar condition, but it does cut down the visibility
quite a bit, and adds a lot of color to the sunrises and sunsets.  [on
the west side of the island, we don't get to see the sunrises, unless
we drive to the top of the 10,000 foot volcano to the east of us]

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On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:44 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> Well that's to be expected whey you're breathing sulfuric acid, sulfur
> dioxide and other things, not meant for humane consumption.
>
> Sure is pretty though.
>
>
> On 2/1/2016 12:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> The sunset, two nights ago, as seen from Charlies Young Beach Park on
>> Maui:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18181962=lg
>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
>> Comments are invited.
>>
>> The color of this sunset is produced by "vog" from the Big Island,
>> which had been drifting over to Maui because a high pressure area was
>> diverting the usual trade winds from the Northeast.
>>
>> Vog isresults when sulfur dioxide and other gases and particles
>> emitted by an erupting volcano react with oxygen and moisture in the
>> presence of sunlight. The word is a portmanteau of the words
>> "volcanic", "smog", and "fog".
>>
>> Vog makes for colorful sunsets, but can cause headaches, watery eyes,
>> sore throats, or even breathing difficulties if it is concentrated
>> enough or persists for a long period or time.  On Maui, it is usually
>> quite mild compared to what can occur on certain portions of the
>> Island of Hawaii (the Big Island).
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>
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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[Matthew Hunt]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:47 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

> If it was just the PDML that would be a fix.  It happens with more than just
> the list.

...which is why I proposed a trivial filter condition, like "size
greater than 1 byte".

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Re: Photoshop + World of Warcraft = Nikon contest winner!

[Bruce Walker]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:34 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> On 2/1/2016 7:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> http://petapixel.com/2016/01/29/nikon-awards-prize-to-badly-shopped-photo-hilarity-ensues/
>
> The amazing thing is there are people actually making fun of the
> photographer.  The judges, if you can call them that, at Nikon are the ones
> who deserve ridicule.  I'm not sure he meant it as a joke, but it sure
> turned into one.

The photographer should never have submitted a hastily constructed
"just in fun" image to a contest, so they are both deserving of
ridicule. The photographer admits it was a joke and sort-of half-ways
apologized for the submission.

Mark, thanks for the belly laughs. :)

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RE: OT: Assimilated by the BORG

[John Coyle]

The link given is the problem - take out the "mobile-users" text and you get to 
the desktop version!


John in Brisbane



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Talk about stupid web design, it thinks my desktop is a mobile device...

On 2/1/2016 5:05 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> Here's one for people who really appreciate stupid web design:
>
> http://bradfordodeonrescuegroup.co.uk/blog/mobile-users/
>
> B
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Re: C'mon boys and girls, cough up your photos!

[Larry Colen]

Peter McIntosh wrote:

I've picked 3 but have been a bit distracted with my mother's death
and the shitty aftermath.  Hope to post them this weekend.


My condolences. This Hakuna Matata bullshit on the list really needs to 
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Re: PESO: Humpback

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM, John  wrote:
> And it did look like the kayakers THOUGHT they were at a safe distance;
> following the rules. Until all of a sudden - surprise, surprise - they
> weren't.

That may be true.  On almost every whale watch I have been on, at
least one whale approaches the boat quite closely, especially if the
motors are off.
They have come so close that the wide end of the 50-200 zoom I had on
the camera wasn't wide enough.

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OT: Assimilated by the BORG

[Bob W-PDML]

Here's one for people who really appreciate stupid web design:

http://bradfordodeonrescuegroup.co.uk/blog/mobile-users/

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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[John]

I think that's a mule.

On 2/1/2016 7:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Thanks Steve. One piece of equipment that I *wasn't* considering was a
horse. That's going to mean a horse trailer and a truck to pull it.
This large format stuff is getting expensive!

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:41 PM, steve harley  wrote:

On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:


I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
to do that either.) I've got some ideas.



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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

Thanks Steve. One piece of equipment that I *wasn't* considering was a
horse. That's going to mean a horse trailer and a truck to pull it.
This large format stuff is getting expensive!

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:41 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
>> protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
>> of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
>> to do that either.) I've got some ideas.
>
>
> came across this today and thought it might inspire you:
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Re: PESO: Radio Flyer

[Larry Colen]

Very fun.

I've got one that some friends bought for me to carry gear around the 
pits at the racetrack, and then they painted it hot pink.  After 20 
years or so, it's looking a bit beat up too.


Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

A true classic, this one is being used to carry a sculptor's tools
from his home to his outdoor workshop in back of the house, on a cliff
overlooking the Pacific Ocean:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18182297=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
Comments are invited.

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Re: C'mon boys and girls, cough up your photos!

[Bill]

On 2/1/2016 5:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Oops, just as I finished sending, I noticed that I sent a slight miscrop
of the photo, can I resubmit?

Mark Roberts wrote:

We've had a bit of a lull in submissions for the PDML Photo Annual.
Get your photos uploaded now and avoid the last-minute rush (end of
February)! The upload page is here:
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/upload.php

Thanks!





Naw. I'll do it for you.

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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[steve harley]

On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:

I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
to do that either.) I've got some ideas.


came across this today and thought it might inspire you:



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PESO: Radio Flyer

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A true classic, this one is being used to carry a sculptor's tools
from his home to his outdoor workshop in back of the house, on a cliff
overlooking the Pacific Ocean:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18182297=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
Comments are invited.

Dan Matyola
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

Googling is not turning up any Mule Trailers. They must be rarer.
Anybody have any idea what THEY cost?

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 PM, John  wrote:
> I think that's a mule.
>
> On 2/1/2016 7:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Steve. One piece of equipment that I *wasn't* considering was a
>> horse. That's going to mean a horse trailer and a truck to pull it.
>> This large format stuff is getting expensive!
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:41 PM, steve harley  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:


 I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
 protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
 of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
 to do that either.) I've got some ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> came across this today and thought it might inspire you:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
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RE: GESO 2016 - 022-031 - GDG

[Malcolm Smith]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> It was good to get out with a camera again yesterday. I was in a dreamy
> mood, the morning was gray at first and brightened later. Three of the
> ten photos I've posted:
> 
>   https://flic.kr/p/CJhPAU
>   https://flic.kr/p/CJpBNv
>   https://flic.kr/p/DeFGAN
> 
> Set of ten photos available @ https://flic.kr/s/aHsktJAg9w

Another excellent set, I really like these.

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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[Rob Studdert]

You can always access Gmail via imap then you can manage the folders
from within Thunderbird?

On 1 February 2016 at 10:21, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> Think of how I feel, I log into gmail through their pop interface.  I never
> see my spam folder unless I log into gmail's web interface, a procedure I
> avoid like I would a bill collect from the mob.
>
> I wish I could somehow turn gmail's spam filtering off, Firefox does a
> pretty good job of rerouting spam, to it's spam folder, it's much more
> convenient, and it actually learns what I consider to be spam.
>
>
> On 1/31/2016 4:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Matthew & John. Should have occurred to me to look there,
>> particularly once it showed up on the PDML Archive.
>> :\
>>
>> It was there with this reason: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a
>> from address in yahoo.com but has failed yahoo.com's required tests
>> for authentication." No idea why that happened. I hate the idea of
>> looking into subfolders. I'm not that anal about organizing emails,
>> and I hate the one more click to see a new PDML email (vs anything
>> else in my Inbox). Real stuff getting into SPAM folder are rare for
>> me, ordinarily.
>>
>> Anyway, thanks. Mystery solved.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 3:37 PM, John  wrote:
>>>
>>> You're on Gmail. Have you checked your "junk" folder?
>>>
>>>  From what I've read here before that's the first place you should look
>>> if you're not seeing some of the list messages.
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2016 4:02 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Brian Walters 
 wrote:
>
> I saw it on the list.
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian


 It is now showing up in the PDML archive, but I haven't seen in in my
 email yet. So, as an I.T. guy, I'm interested in how some people could
 see this on the list and some people (like me) would NOT see the
 message. Makes me wonder how many other messages I'm don't get and
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Re: PESO: Humpback

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> I remember being told about a regulation about not intentionally approaching
> a Humpback any closer than 100 yards or so. Its different if they approach
> you.

That is the case, Ken.  The waters off Maui are included in the
Hawaiian Islands Humpback Whale National Marine Sanctuary, and there
are rather strict regulations to protect the whales.   The Whales are
here to give birth and to breed.  They don't eat anything from the
time they leave the Gulf of Alaska until they return there several
weeks later.  (In fact, there is nothing here for them to eat.)  The
regulations are primarily to protect the new-born calves, until they
are large enough and strong enough to make the journey north to the
feeding waters/

The rules are a little more flexible off the coast of Alaska and in
the North Atlantic, as the whales there are feeding and storing up
energy for the next migration, and not quite as sensitive to human
disturbances.  We did a whale watch out of Gloucester, MA, years ago,
and the boats there approached much more closely to the whales than
the boats here are permitted to do.


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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[Carlos R.]

El 01/02/2016 a las 9:35, Rob Studdert escribió:

You can always access Gmail via imap then you can manage the folders
from within Thunderbird?



That's the way I do. I have 2 Gmail accounts, and manage them using 
Thunderbird, one using IMAP and other POP, and it works quite well.




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Re: Photoshop + Minecraft = Nikon contest winner!

[John]

On 2/1/2016 7:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Sorry. It was "Minecraft", not "World of Warcraft". (Some computer
game thingy. Whatever.)


http://petapixel.com/2016/01/29/nikon-awards-prize-to-badly-shopped-photo-hilarity-ensues/

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Are you sure it wasn't "Years of Yarncraft"?

http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/080728

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Re: PESO: Humpback

[John]

Yeah, it's against the law to get so close you're "harassing" the whales.

And it did look like the kayakers THOUGHT they were at a safe distance;
following the rules. Until all of a sudden - surprise, surprise - they
weren't.

On 2/1/2016 12:06 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

I remember being told about a regulation about not intentionally
approaching a Humpback any closer than 100 yards or so. Its different if
they approach you.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - From: "John" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Humpback



Just don't get too close to them in a kayak or it might be the LAST item
on your bucket list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u-MW7vF0-Y

On 1/31/2016 1:15 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Neato!  Must be amazing to see these creatures live!  It’s on my
bucket list!  Cheers, Christine



On Jan 30, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
 wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18180085=lg
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Re: OT: NYC View

[WILSON MICHAEL]

I think I'm safe at this dostance:  it's the glow every time Donald Trump lowers
his trousers - and that _is_ the sun.

> On 31 January 2016 at 23:10 "P.J. Alling"  wrote:
> 
> 
> I could tell you but then I'd be required to kill myself.
> 
> On 1/31/2016 4:20 PM, John wrote:
> > On 1/31/2016 3:33 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
> >> That's not the Sun, it's the glow from the "event" no one is allowed to
> >> talk about.
> >>
> >
> > I know I'm going to regret asking, but you just lost me there. What 
> > "event"?
> >
> >
> >> On 1/31/2016 1:06 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> >>> Call me sad, but I've just been on Google maps and then Google
> >>> streetview. If you put yourself on Washington Street between Water St
> >>> and Front St you can see that view, albeit without the somewhat
> >>> mysterious phenomenon of the sun apparently rising or setting in the
> >>> north. But it's in a district called Dumbo, so what do I know?
> >>>
> >>> B
> >>>
>  On 31 Jan 2016, at 17:34, Daniel J. Matyola 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Ann, is this view even possible?
>  http://themetapicture.com/photogenic-nyc-view/
> 
>  or just another photoshop?
> 
>  Dan Matyola
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Re: Boris PESO #03 - Street Circus

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Boris:
The timing of all three jugglers is good—all three sets of balls are caught up 
in the air, but the background is quite distracting, so it’s hard to tell at 
first what the photo is about—the balls get lost in the crowd.

Cheers, Christine

> On Jan 31, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Here is a pic for you.
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/01/2016-03-street-circus.html
> 
> Please be brutal and honest... Or both...
> 
> 
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Re: Photoshop + Minecraft = Nikon contest winner!

[Mark Roberts]

Sorry. It was "Minecraft", not "World of Warcraft". (Some computer
game thingy. Whatever.)

>http://petapixel.com/2016/01/29/nikon-awards-prize-to-badly-shopped-photo-hilarity-ensues/
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Re: PESO: Humpback

[Christine Aguila]

Yikes!  Scary!  I’m not a kayaker, so no problem there.  My bucket list says, 
“see from a very large ship” :-).
Cheers, Christine


> On Jan 31, 2016, at 2:12 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Just don't get too close to them in a kayak or it might be the LAST item
> on your bucket list.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u-MW7vF0-Y
> 
> On 1/31/2016 1:15 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Neato!  Must be amazing to see these creatures live!  It’s on my
>> bucket list!  Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18180085=lg
>>> Comments are invited
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Photoshop + World of Warcraft = Nikon contest winner!

[Mark Roberts]

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Re: PESO: Humpback

[Jack Davis]

Whale bulling!? 

J

- Original Message -
From: "P.J. Alling" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 7:38:57 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Humpback

I think everyone is missing the big picture here, one shouldn't make fun 
of a poor unfortunate creature based on it's appearance, humpback indeed.

On 1/30/2016 2:38 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18180085=lg
> Comments are invited
>
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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[John]

100% of anything I buy used does not go towards the purchase of new
gear from Pentax. But what's best for Pentax isn't always what's best
for me.

During the last decade or so, Pentax hasn't always made the lenses I
want available, so buying used or buying from a third party lens
manufacturer has been my only option.


On 1/31/2016 11:55 PM, Kim Tang wrote:

I agree. Much of what you say maybe be true.

But must ask. Some percent of used sales not going to fund purchase
of brand new equipment from Pentax. Do you agree?


Some is simply selling to bring dollars. Others could be to fund
purchase of non-Pentax gear.

So if majority of people follow in same, then Pentax sells less new
items at highest profit margin.

The best thing for Pentax is if users consistently upgrade and
purchase largely new Pentax items.

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Re: Photoshop + World of Warcraft = Nikon contest winner!

[Stanley Halpin]

I followed the link, went all the way through to the Update at the end. The 
photographer says he in fact meant it as a joke and is apologizing for not 
realizing sooner that people were taking it seriously.

> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:34 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> On 2/1/2016 7:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> http://petapixel.com/2016/01/29/nikon-awards-prize-to-badly-shopped-photo-hilarity-ensues/
>> 
> 
> The amazing thing is there are people actually making fun of the 
> photographer.  The judges, if you can call them that, at Nikon are the ones 
> who deserve ridicule.  I'm not sure he meant it as a joke, but it sure turned 
> into one.
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PESO: Vog Sunset

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The sunset, two nights ago, as seen from Charlies Young Beach Park on Maui:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18181962=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.

The color of this sunset is produced by "vog" from the Big Island,
which had been drifting over to Maui because a high pressure area was
diverting the usual trade winds from the Northeast.

Vog isresults when sulfur dioxide and other gases and particles
emitted by an erupting volcano react with oxygen and moisture in the
presence of sunlight. The word is a portmanteau of the words
"volcanic", "smog", and "fog".

Vog makes for colorful sunsets, but can cause headaches, watery eyes,
sore throats, or even breathing difficulties if it is concentrated
enough or persists for a long period or time.  On Maui, it is usually
quite mild compared to what can occur on certain portions of the
Island of Hawaii (the Big Island).

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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[Paul]

This on seems to work for me...

 Matches: list:(pdml.pdml.net)
 Do this: Never send it to Spam

-p

On 1/31/2016 5:37 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 6:21 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:


I wish I could somehow turn gmail's spam filtering off, Firefox does a
pretty good job of rerouting spam, to it's spam folder, it's much more
convenient, and it actually learns what I consider to be spam.


What if you create a filter with a trivial condition (like "Larger
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the action "Never send it to Spam"?



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Re: Photoshop + Minecraft = Nikon contest winner!

[Mark Roberts]

Stanley Halpin wrote:

>I followed the link, went all the way through to the Update at the end. 
>The photographer says he in fact meant it as a joke and is apologizing for 
>not realizing sooner that people were taking it seriously.

I believe this is what's known as "backpedaling".


>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 10:34 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/1/2016 7:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> http://petapixel.com/2016/01/29/nikon-awards-prize-to-badly-shopped-photo-hilarity-ensues/
>>> 
>> 
>> The amazing thing is there are people actually making fun of the 
>> photographer.  The judges, if you can call them that, at Nikon are the ones 
>> who deserve ridicule.  I'm not sure he meant it as a joke, but it sure 
>> turned into one.
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Re: My K-7 is dying

[Rob Studdert]

I now run a K5IIs and K3, the K5II is a great camera for sure, about
the only time I hesitate to use it over the K3 is when I know that I
will need the added buffer depth, otherwise I like it a bit more then
the K3. The K5 AF is OK, all its issues have been mentioned but they
are darned good value now, for the type of photography that I
typically see from you I doubt that it would present as significant
hurdle. That said I still have one K5 that I will sell shortly, it's
only shot about 40k frames I seem to recall, I would do you a deal but
the shipping costs would likely reverse its value.

On 27 January 2016 at 13:59, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Hi, troops. As you can see, my beloved K-7 is about to bit the dust. It's
> become a little reluctant to change shutter speeds, and I'm not sure what
> shutter speed it's ever on any more. I have used and abused it for years,
> and now it's tired and wants to go home.
>
> I can maybe afford,if a client comes through, a used K5, and here's my
> question: is it worth getting. I know there have been upgrades to it, but it
> seems to have gotten decent reviews whe it came out.
>
> My other option is to spend a bit more and upgrade my Fuji X100 to the
> X100S, but that would put me out of the Pentax game. I'd like to stick
> around, maybe, if the K5 is worth it.
>
> What say you?
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Re: Lens Thoughts (DA 17-70 f4)

[Rob Studdert]

Late to the party but unless you are dead keen to purchase a Pentax
branded lens then you might also consider the Sigma 18-50/2.8 (which
according to a few tests is a better performer than both the
equivalent Tamron and Pentax lenses) or the new C series Sigma
17-70/2.8-4. I have the Sigma 18-50/2.8 but since buying the Sigma
17-70/2.8-4 it's now on the block as it doesn't get used at all, the
17-70 is a very nice lens.

On 31 January 2016 at 04:48, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Ed Keeney  wrote:
>
>>
>> To start, I am looking at the DA 17-70 to roughly cover the same range
>> as the 18-55 and luckily it's the lowest priced one.  B has it
>> listed for $350, Amazon $300.
>
> My two colpies had serious focus issues right from the get go, but the
> sample shots i took with it were very nice IQ very good. I went Sigma
> 17-70
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February PUG - Last Call

[Brian Walters]

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Wednesday evening (Sydney time).  Get 'em
in while you can!!

Theme: Black and White

As usual submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Full Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


Cheers

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Re: PESO: Radio Flyer

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> I've got one that some friends bought for me to carry gear around the pits at 
> the racetrack, and then they painted it hot pink.



I guess we know what they think of you, Larry.  


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Re: OT: Assimilated by the BORG

[P.J. Alling]

It doesn't give you a lot if you're using a computer with a full display 
either.  You have to know the story, because if you don't that web site 
won't tell it to you. There is literally real no content, you need to 
use Google to discover what it's all about.


On 2/1/2016 6:06 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

The desktop site is the url before '/blog'; there's a redirect to the 
problematic page.

The problem with it is that it gives you nothing if you're on a mobile device. 
I'd quite like to read the stuff on the site - that's why I followed the link 
in the first place.

I accept that small organisations without professional IT may not be able to do 
responsive design (although these days it should be the default even on cheap/free 
CMSes), but they haven't even given me the choice of a sub-optimal experience, just a 
flat out "no, we won't let you see our site at all", and I can't be arsed to go 
upstairs, switch on the desktop machine and go hunting for their desktop site.

B


On 1 Feb 2016, at 22:47, John Coyle  wrote:

The link given is the problem - take out the "mobile-users" text and you get to 
the desktop version!


John in Brisbane



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Talk about stupid web design, it thinks my desktop is a mobile device...


On 2/1/2016 5:05 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
Here's one for people who really appreciate stupid web design:

http://bradfordodeonrescuegroup.co.uk/blog/mobile-users/

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Re: C'mon boys and girls, cough up your photos!

[Alan C]

I submitted my 3 images before Larry but I don't see them on the "images 
received" list yet.


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Re: C'mon boys and girls, cough up your photos!

[Brian Walters]

Might be worth contacting Mark directly.  They should show up there
quickly in my experience

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Re: PESO: Radio Flyer

[Alan C]

Takes me back! I thought it was going to be a drone.

Alan C

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Subject: PESO: Radio Flyer

A true classic, this one is being used to carry a sculptor's tools
from his home to his outdoor workshop in back of the house, on a cliff
overlooking the Pacific Ocean:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18182297=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
Comments are invited.

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Re: Photoshop + Minecraft = Nikon contest winner!

[Doug Brewer]

He was very lucky that the other file happened to fly past when he was 
sitting at the computer.



On 2/1/16 7:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Sorry. It was "Minecraft", not "World of Warcraft". (Some computer
game thingy. Whatever.)


http://petapixel.com/2016/01/29/nikon-awards-prize-to-badly-shopped-photo-hilarity-ensues/

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Re: Photoshop + World of Warcraft = Nikon contest winner!

[P.J. Alling]

On 2/1/2016 7:56 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

http://petapixel.com/2016/01/29/nikon-awards-prize-to-badly-shopped-photo-hilarity-ensues/
  


The amazing thing is there are people actually making fun of the 
photographer.  The judges, if you can call them that, at Nikon are the 
ones who deserve ridicule.  I'm not sure he meant it as a joke, but it 
sure turned into one.


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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[P.J. Alling]

I decided against that.

Really, I know the experience I want from e-mail, and the one Google 
provides isn't it.


The fact that they allow me to use it the way I want to, even though it 
probably hurts their bottom line, makes them tolerable.


On 2/1/2016 3:35 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

You can always access Gmail via imap then you can manage the folders
from within Thunderbird?

On 1 February 2016 at 10:21, P.J. Alling  wrote:

Think of how I feel, I log into gmail through their pop interface.  I never
see my spam folder unless I log into gmail's web interface, a procedure I
avoid like I would a bill collect from the mob.

I wish I could somehow turn gmail's spam filtering off, Firefox does a
pretty good job of rerouting spam, to it's spam folder, it's much more
convenient, and it actually learns what I consider to be spam.


On 1/31/2016 4:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Thanks Matthew & John. Should have occurred to me to look there,
particularly once it showed up on the PDML Archive.
:\

It was there with this reason: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a
from address in yahoo.com but has failed yahoo.com's required tests
for authentication." No idea why that happened. I hate the idea of
looking into subfolders. I'm not that anal about organizing emails,
and I hate the one more click to see a new PDML email (vs anything
else in my Inbox). Real stuff getting into SPAM folder are rare for
me, ordinarily.

Anyway, thanks. Mystery solved.

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 3:37 PM, John  wrote:

You're on Gmail. Have you checked your "junk" folder?

  From what I've read here before that's the first place you should look
if you're not seeing some of the list messages.

On 1/31/2016 4:02 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

I saw it on the list.

Cheers

Brian


It is now showing up in the PDML archive, but I haven't seen in in my
email yet. So, as an I.T. guy, I'm interested in how some people could
see this on the list and some people (like me) would NOT see the
message. Makes me wonder how many other messages I'm don't get and
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Re: PESO: Humpback

[P.J. Alling]

I think everyone is missing the big picture here, one shouldn't make fun 
of a poor unfortunate creature based on it's appearance, humpback indeed.


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18180085=lg
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Re: Converting bad SDM to screw drive AF

[David J Brooks]

found Kim's email in my gmail spam folder, appears they yahoo mail did
not met some sort of criteria on gmail.

Dave

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:37 AM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> I decided against that.
>
> Really, I know the experience I want from e-mail, and the one Google
> provides isn't it.
>
> The fact that they allow me to use it the way I want to, even though it
> probably hurts their bottom line, makes them tolerable.
>
>
> On 2/1/2016 3:35 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> You can always access Gmail via imap then you can manage the folders
>> from within Thunderbird?
>>
>> On 1 February 2016 at 10:21, P.J. Alling 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Think of how I feel, I log into gmail through their pop interface.  I
>>> never
>>> see my spam folder unless I log into gmail's web interface, a procedure I
>>> avoid like I would a bill collect from the mob.
>>>
>>> I wish I could somehow turn gmail's spam filtering off, Firefox does a
>>> pretty good job of rerouting spam, to it's spam folder, it's much more
>>> convenient, and it actually learns what I consider to be spam.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2016 4:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 Thanks Matthew & John. Should have occurred to me to look there,
 particularly once it showed up on the PDML Archive.
 :\

 It was there with this reason: "Why is this message in Spam? It has a
 from address in yahoo.com but has failed yahoo.com's required tests
 for authentication." No idea why that happened. I hate the idea of
 looking into subfolders. I'm not that anal about organizing emails,
 and I hate the one more click to see a new PDML email (vs anything
 else in my Inbox). Real stuff getting into SPAM folder are rare for
 me, ordinarily.

 Anyway, thanks. Mystery solved.

 On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 3:37 PM, John  wrote:
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> You're on Gmail. Have you checked your "junk" folder?
>
>   From what I've read here before that's the first place you should
> look
> if you're not seeing some of the list messages.
>
> On 1/31/2016 4:02 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Brian Walters
>> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I saw it on the list.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>>
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>> email yet. So, as an I.T. guy, I'm interested in how some people could
>> see this on the list and some people (like me) would NOT see the
>> message. Makes me wonder how many other messages I'm don't get and
>> why.
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Re: OT: NYC View

[ann sanfedele]

p.s. ... I didn't see this link of John's earlier... with all the 
thumbnails in google.
Now I'm thinking the one (and only ) day I was in that spot the weather 
hid the Empire StateBuilding...
I took my photo (darkside camera) in February, 2008... didn't have a lot 
of photos on that card.. I used to
take a bus to brooklyn that doesnt exist anymore, shop on atlantic ave 
and take a train back  (or vice versa) - that way
paying only one senior fare if I do it fast enough (transfer free within 
two hours)  The other shots on the card with that

date show wet sidewalks and fog.

Funny thing is, I'd never seen photos from that perspective before... 
and I found the spot by accident. Also possible I

walked across the Brooklyn Bridge that day...

ann (embarrased by my assertion that the view wasnt possible - 
although... I still wonder if he could have gotten that
much of the buildings in the street and the enlarged building.. maybe 
selectively enlarged the building in photoshop?


ann

On 1/31/2016 5:33 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Well that explains why I didn't see it back when I took mine :-)

ann

On 1/31/2016 4:34 PM, John wrote:

I think you're about a block too far back. It looks like you were
between Front St & York St.

I think you need to be between Water St & Front St to be able to frame
the Empire State Building inside the bridge supports the way the
photographer in Dan's found image did. To get the angle right, you'd
have to be standing out in the street, down near the front of those
school buses.

http://tinyurl.com/Empire-DUMBO

On 1/31/2016 2:52 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

No it isn't

Here is my shot from the same place  - believe me, if I could have seen
the Empire state fromthere it would have been in

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/New-York-New-York/i-RNcjf6K/A 




ann

On 1/31/2016 1:20 PM, David Parsons wrote:

It's legit.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7029836,-73.9895968,3a,75y,354.23h,95.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSteR_VZMWJQK9fsWUNG-qA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 





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 wrote:

Ann, is this view even possible?
http://themetapicture.com/photogenic-nyc-view/

or just another photoshop?

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