Re: Ftagh

2016-02-16 Thread Larry Colen
At first I thought Cotty was speaking Klingon again.

On February 16, 2016 2:52:00 PM PST, Collin B  wrote:
>"Operating Manual Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic" #06076
>
>Just pay postage.

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Re: Boris PESO #06 - Haifa Bay

2016-02-16 Thread Boris Liberman

Mark,

Thank you for your kind words. I tend to think that this tilted feeling 
(that I often experience myself) has to do with the fact that this image 
has two shorelines that are not parallel. So, they kind of grab your 
attention and since they are not straight and not parallel, they induce 
this strange feeling.


Even more interesting is that when I apply "Auto" lens correction in 
Lightroom (which normally takes care of all things straight), it 
produces badly tilted image. So, it seems, you and I are not alone in 
this confusion.


Fascinating indeed.

Boris


On 2/16/2016 22:39, Mark C wrote:
Interesting image - when I look at it closely I really enjoy the 
detail, the sense of activity and the lighting. But when I look at the 
whole frame it has an odd out of balance feeling to it. I think my eye 
is keying on the shoreline and getting a sense that the image of 
tilted. Obviously, it is not tilted but I keep feeling like it is... 
weird.


On 2/14/2016 1:06 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

That day the weather in Haifa was very photogenic...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2016/02/2016-05-haifa-bay.html

Be brutal and honest :-).




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Re: PESO: Catch of the Dat

2016-02-16 Thread Alan C

Dan, I enjoyed the content. Takes me back - I used to do a lot of that.

Alan C

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A follow-up on my earlier post of the Sunset Fisherman:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188680&size=lg

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Re: February PUG Updated!!

2016-02-16 Thread Christine Aguila
Lovely shot, Bob Sullivan!  Cheers, Christine 


> On Feb 16, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Yes it is. Gorgeous!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>> G'day all
>> 
>> It seems that Bob Sullivan's submission was missed in compiling the
>> February PUG.
>> 
>> Bob had trouble with the submission form so he emailed me the
>> submission.  The problem was he sent it to my 'apathy...@lyons-ryan.org'
>> address and, true to the username, I haven't bothered to check that
>> address for a year or so...
>> 
>> (in my defence, it was only ever used for PDML and is no longer my
>> subscribed address).
>> 
>> I thought I'd arranged an auto-forward from that address to my main
>> address but apparently I couldn't have been bothered to do that either
>> :-(>  Anyway, that's now been fixed.
>> 
>> Bob's submission has now been belatedly added and well worth a look.
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/index.html
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry Bob!
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: Used Lens Test

2016-02-16 Thread P.J. Alling
Well, I don't know exactly what to tell you.  If it were an old style K 
or A lens I'd say check to make sure the aperture is snappy, and that 
the focus is smooth,(same with zoom).  Take a few shots and make sure 
the lens is sharp across the frame, at various focal lengths apertures 
and distances.  Look out especially for decrementing, which shows up as 
one side or the other of the frame being in focus while the other 
isn't.  It can happen in manufacturing and not be caught by quality 
control, or if the lens has taken a few hard knocks. Other than that I 
can't tell you.


On 2/16/2016 8:25 PM, Ed Keeney wrote:

My quest for a new lens (I was looking at the 17-70 f/4) has taken a turn.

One of my local brick and mortar's has put up a used Pentax 16-50/2.8
AF-DA* (as well as a Pentax 50-135/2.8 AF-DA*).  Both are in excellent
to mint condition.

I'm itching to pull the trigger on the 16-50, it's a little higher
than I want to spend, but I might be able to convince myself to do it.

My questions to PDML...

Since I can physically handle the lens and take test shots with my own
camera, what am I looking for?  Is there a set of shots I should take
to test the lens?  What am I looking for in a used lens?

Thanks!
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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 118, Issue 67

2016-02-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Don!

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> I am inclined to agree with Larry here. Fun series shoot though.
>
> On 2/15/16 11:26 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:57:55 -0800
>> From: Larry Colen
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: GESO ~ Vintage unmentionables
>> Message-ID:<56c29033.30...@red4est.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> >Tiny, full-figured pin-up model Holly Harlott wears vintage bullet
>>> >bras, girdles, real nylons, and other dainties in this fun shoot I did
>>> >last Monday. Most of the shots have been submitted to a vintage fans
>>> >publication, but these extra ones are public.
>>> >
>>> >One shot is a little NSFW as it's sheer black fabric over boobies.
>>> >
>>>
>>> > >http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/139392504892/from-a-shoot-with-model-holly-harlot-stylist
>>> >
>>> >645Z, both 55mm and 90mm macro, 100 ISO, mostly f:11, 1/125th sec.
>>> >
>>> >Three lights in the most complex glamour style setup I've done to
>>> >date. Sheers used to create a giant 6 foot by 9 foot softbox, a 5 foot
>>> >stripbox for accenting, and a 7" gridded reflector for highlighting
>>> >model's face.
>>> >
>>> >Styling by Julia of Gigi's House of Frills.
>>> >Makeup and hair by Judi Willrich.
>>> >Set design, lighting, photos and retouch by me.
>>> >
>>> >Comments welcome, of course.
>>> >
>>
>> Lovely model, great concept.
>>
>> I'm afraid to say that I think that the shadows might have one this
>> round. A lot of the shadows are a bit too hard edged for my taste.  The
>> one on the wall behind her when she's standing, in particular.
>>
>> http://41.media.tumblr.com/d0fe27a5a86a32e02be579ea4a80ea77/tumblr_o2m9gs90O01rdwvm9o2_1280.jpg
>>
>> In a couple others, the ones on her neck and/or shoulder.  Mind you, I'm
>> not saying that I could do better, but I find as a theme those shadows
>> distract my attention from other, more pleasing aspects of the photos.
>> In general, they are the shadows from the light on camera left, fairly
>> high
>>
>> I nearly really like the one with her back to the camera:
>>
>> http://41.media.tumblr.com/318fa3967584e9f2dbf8e7f3021e77e3/tumblr_o2m9gs90O01rdwvm9o3_1280.jpg
>> but the light seems to flatten out her figure rather than define her
>> lovely curves.  The right leg and arm are nice, but I think there is too
>> much fill on her hips and butt.
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Re: February PUG Updated!!

2016-02-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Yes it is. Gorgeous!


On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> It seems that Bob Sullivan's submission was missed in compiling the
> February PUG.
>
> Bob had trouble with the submission form so he emailed me the
> submission.  The problem was he sent it to my 'apathy...@lyons-ryan.org'
> address and, true to the username, I haven't bothered to check that
> address for a year or so...
>
> (in my defence, it was only ever used for PDML and is no longer my
> subscribed address).
>
> I thought I'd arranged an auto-forward from that address to my main
> address but apparently I couldn't have been bothered to do that either
> :-(>  Anyway, that's now been fixed.
>
> Bob's submission has now been belatedly added and well worth a look.
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/index.html
>
>
> Sorry Bob!
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: PESO: Catch of the Dat

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That should of course be "Catch of the Day."

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> A follow-up on my earlier post of the Sunset Fisherman:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188680&size=lg
>
> Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: Sunset Fisherman

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Ann.  If you saw my follow-up PESO, you will see that the fish
were biting, and this gent caught at least one -- apparently a smaller
Trevally .
Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 6:38 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> That's very pleasant - nice atmosphere
> What's biting?
>
> ann
>
>
> On 2/16/2016 6:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188678&size=lg
>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
>> Comments are invited.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: February PUG Updated!!

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a fine image.  I would never have thought of using B&W for a
butterfly, but it works well in that case.  I love the level of detail
in the wings, the antennae and the proboscis.

Thanks for taking the time and trouble to update the gallery, and
thanks for all you do every month to make the PUG possible and
successful.

Dan
Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> It seems that Bob Sullivan's submission was missed in compiling the
> February PUG.
>
> Bob had trouble with the submission form so he emailed me the
> submission.  The problem was he sent it to my 'apathy...@lyons-ryan.org'
> address and, true to the username, I haven't bothered to check that
> address for a year or so...
>
> (in my defence, it was only ever used for PDML and is no longer my
> subscribed address).
>
> I thought I'd arranged an auto-forward from that address to my main
> address but apparently I couldn't have been bothered to do that either
> :-(>  Anyway, that's now been fixed.
>
> Bob's submission has now been belatedly added and well worth a look.
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/index.html
>
>
> Sorry Bob!
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
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Used Lens Test

2016-02-16 Thread Ed Keeney
My quest for a new lens (I was looking at the 17-70 f/4) has taken a turn.

One of my local brick and mortar's has put up a used Pentax 16-50/2.8
AF-DA* (as well as a Pentax 50-135/2.8 AF-DA*).  Both are in excellent
to mint condition.

I'm itching to pull the trigger on the 16-50, it's a little higher
than I want to spend, but I might be able to convince myself to do it.

My questions to PDML...

Since I can physically handle the lens and take test shots with my own
camera, what am I looking for?  Is there a set of shots I should take
to test the lens?  What am I looking for in a used lens?

Thanks!
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PESO: Catch of the Dat

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A follow-up on my earlier post of the Sunset Fisherman:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188680&size=lg

Dan Matyola
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Re: February PUG Updated!!

2016-02-16 Thread ann sanfedele

On 2/16/2016 7:15 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

It seems that Bob Sullivan's submission was missed in compiling the
February PUG.

[...snip snip...]

Bob's submission has now been belatedly added and well worth a look.

http://pug.komkon.org/index.html


Sorry Bob!


Cheers

Brian


it certainly is!
... and it was nice to revisit the whole batch again..such a good set!

ann

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February PUG Updated!!

2016-02-16 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all

It seems that Bob Sullivan's submission was missed in compiling the
February PUG.

Bob had trouble with the submission form so he emailed me the
submission.  The problem was he sent it to my 'apathy...@lyons-ryan.org'
address and, true to the username, I haven't bothered to check that
address for a year or so...

(in my defence, it was only ever used for PDML and is no longer my
subscribed address).

I thought I'd arranged an auto-forward from that address to my main
address but apparently I couldn't have been bothered to do that either
:-(>  Anyway, that's now been fixed.

Bob's submission has now been belatedly added and well worth a look.

http://pug.komkon.org/index.html


Sorry Bob!


Cheers

Brian

++
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Re: PESO: Sunset Fisherman

2016-02-16 Thread ann sanfedele

That's very pleasant - nice atmosphere
What's biting?

ann

On 2/16/2016 6:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188678&size=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
Comments are invited.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Bill

On 2/16/2016 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !

I think my hat might scrape through intact.

;-)



Truth be to tell, 24x36 was an aim point anyway. I hand printed 
something like 10 million 35mm negatives during my lab career, and I 
guarantee you, there were a lot of "35mm" cameras out there that had a 
smaller image size than 24x36, some a lot smaller.


I do think you should be looking for a chocolate hat.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Stanley Halpin
To verify this rumor I believe you will need to buy a K-1, carefully remove the 
sensor, and do a careful measurement in the presence of at least 5 certified 
PDML observers. Later you can install the sensor in your video camera, thereby 
upgrading that rig…

stan

> On Feb 16, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !
> 
> I think my hat might scrape through intact.
> 
> ;-)
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PESO: Sunset Fisherman

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188678&size=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Lying Down on the Job

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> TILT!

You are of course correct, but I never criticize or attempt to
"correct" my wife's photos.  

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !

Sensor size: 35.9 x 24.0mm

Of course, 35mm film expressed its frame size in whole numbers. So it
would be appropriate (apples to apples) to round 35.9 x 24.0 to remove
the decimal point let's see. What do we get?
:)

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Ftagh

2016-02-16 Thread Collin B
"Operating Manual Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic" #06076

Just pay postage.
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Bob W-PDML
The way a camel scrapes through the eye of a needle, or a rich man into heaven?

> On 16 Feb 2016, at 22:12, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !
> 
> I think my hat might scrape through intact.
> 
> ;-)
> 
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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread Bob W-PDML
Combined flight+hotel packages, 3-4 nights stay

> On 16 Feb 2016, at 22:28, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> what are "weekend Breaks"?
> 
> a
> 
>> On 2/16/2016 3:07 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>> On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> The more the merrier!
>>> However...
>>> C B G B is ... G O N E  - closed in 2006.
>>> 
>>> You'll have to settle for McSorley's  - it's a five minute walk from my 
>>> place -but not the treasure it once was.
>> A match made in Heaven, because nor am I...
>> 
>> I've been looking at the cost of weekend breaks. That doesn't bode well for 
>> my wallet.
>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-j6hTb46/A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> CGBG was about 10 minutes by shanks mare, but you couldn't have paid me 
>>> enough to go thereso just as well
>>> it is gone.
>>> 
>>> ann
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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 16/2/16, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That's a very lawyerly statement, and you should be ashamed...

Must be something to do with the BlackBerry I just got

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 17/2/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The clutching at straws has begun

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread P.J. Alling

That's a very lawyerly statement, and you should be ashamed...

On 2/16/2016 5:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
36mm x 24mm !

I think my hat might scrape through intact.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Brian Walters
The clutching at straws has begun


Cheers

Brian


On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:11 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
> 36mm x 24mm !
> 
> I think my hat might scrape through intact.
> 
> ;-)
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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread ann sanfedele

what are "weekend Breaks"?

a

On 2/16/2016 3:07 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:

The more the merrier!
However...
C B G B is ... G O N E  - closed in 2006.

You'll have to settle for McSorley's  - it's a five minute walk from my place 
-but not the treasure it once was.

A match made in Heaven, because nor am I...

I've been looking at the cost of weekend breaks. That doesn't bode well for my 
wallet.

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-j6hTb46/A


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it is gone.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread Steve Cottrell
By the way. I gather the sensor is *just shy* of full frame. It's not
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I think my hat might scrape through intact.

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Re: PESO: Lying Down on the Job

2016-02-16 Thread Ken Waller
TILT!


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>From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>Sent: Feb 15, 2016 5:57 PM
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>Subject: PESO: Lying Down on the Job
>
>iPhone image of me trying to capture a sunset:
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188341
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Re: GESO ~ Vintage unmentionables

2016-02-16 Thread Bruce Walker
These nylons, at least the teal ones (blueish) are the real deal. They
don't stretch like today's fabrics and like silk have to be carefully
pulled on to avoid tearing. Luckily the pair the stylist owns fit our
model.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 2:05 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> Of course nylons are real, and vintage late 40's and early 50's
> pre-pantyhose.  Silk stockings would have been 30's vintage.  That look is
> more or less 50's.
>
> On 2/16/2016 1:53 PM, John wrote:
>>
>> Nice, but are nylons "real"?
>>
>> I thought nylons were the substitute women turned to when they couldn't
>> get silk stockings.
>>
>> IIRC, nylon can be made from coal tar, but silk comes from caterpillars
>> found mostly in Asia and during WWII became a scarce resource reserved
>> for the manufacture of parachutes.
>>
>> On 2/15/2016 8:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Tiny, full-figured pin-up model Holly Harlott wears vintage bullet
>>> bras, girdles, real nylons, and other dainties in this fun shoot I did
>>> last Monday. Most of the shots have been submitted to a vintage fans
>>> publication, but these extra ones are public.
>>>
>>> One shot is a little NSFW as it's sheer black fabric over boobies.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/139392504892/from-a-shoot-with-model-holly-harlot-stylist
>>>
>>> 645Z, both 55mm and 90mm macro, 100 ISO, mostly f:11, 1/125th sec.
>>>
>>> Three lights in the most complex glamour style setup I've done to
>>> date. Sheers used to create a giant 6 foot by 9 foot softbox, a 5 foot
>>> stripbox for accenting, and a 7" gridded reflector for highlighting
>>> model's face.
>>>
>>> Styling by Julia of Gigi's House of Frills.
>>> Makeup and hair by Judi Willrich.
>>> Set design, lighting, photos and retouch by me.
>>>
>>> Comments welcome, of course.
>>>
>>
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Re: Boris PESO #06 - Haifa Bay

2016-02-16 Thread Ken Waller
Informative capture Boris.


-Original Message-
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>That day the weather in Haifa was very photogenic...
>
>http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2016/02/2016-05-haifa-bay.html
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>Be brutal and honest :-).
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Re: Boris PESO #06 - Haifa Bay

2016-02-16 Thread Mark C
Interesting image - when I look at it closely I really enjoy the detail, 
the sense of activity and the lighting. But when I look at the whole 
frame it has an odd out of balance feeling to it. I think my eye is 
keying on the shoreline and getting a sense that the image of tilted. 
Obviously, it is not tilted but I keep feeling like it is... weird.


On 2/14/2016 1:06 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

That day the weather in Haifa was very photogenic...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2016/02/2016-05-haifa-bay.html

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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 16 Feb 2016, at 19:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> The more the merrier!
> However...
> C B G B is ... G O N E  - closed in 2006.
> 
> You'll have to settle for McSorley's  - it's a five minute walk from my place 
> -but not the treasure it once was.

A match made in Heaven, because nor am I...

I've been looking at the cost of weekend breaks. That doesn't bode well for my 
wallet.
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-j6hTb46/A
> 
> 
> CGBG was about 10 minutes by shanks mare, but you couldn't have paid me 
> enough to go thereso just as well
> it is gone.
> 
> ann

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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 16 Feb 2016, at 18:06, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
>> I'll buy you a bitter in CBGB if you like. If they don't sell bitter then a 
>> blonde beer should do it
> 
> They don't sell bitter or blond beer, I'm afraid. Closed around 2006.

They'll reopen for Fat Freddy's Cat...


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Re: PESO 2016 - 036-039 - GDG

2016-02-16 Thread ann sanfedele

I really like 036
ann

On 2/13/2016 8:23 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Fog in the park on this morning's walk.

   https://flic.kr/p/DDVLw1
   https://flic.kr/p/DXNaez
   https://flic.kr/p/E73hFX
   https://flic.kr/p/E73gWa

enjoy!
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Re: PESO 2016 - 040 - GDG

2016-02-16 Thread ann sanfedele

cute!
a

On 2/16/2016 12:10 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Valentines is still hanging around ...

   https://flic.kr/p/DCMFir

enjoy!
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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread ann sanfedele

The more the merrier!
However...
C B G B is ... G O N E  - closed in 2006.

You'll have to settle for McSorley's  - it's a five minute walk from my 
place -but not the treasure it once was.


https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2015-and-all-that/i-j6hTb46/A


CGBG was about 10 minutes by shanks mare, but you couldn't have paid me 
enough to go thereso just as well

it is gone.

ann




On 2/16/2016 1:01 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Great! Does that mean I can come too? I'be good and carry Bob's bags
and everything...

On 16 February 2016 at 15:04, ann sanfedele  wrote:

lol!  there there Chris I still love yatoo :-)
ann


On 2/16/2016 3:25 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Yea, Yea it's all about Bob isn't it? Ever since the notorious "Hi
Chris, what a shame Bob W couldn't make it" incident in Chicago, I've
been a minor player basking in the reflected glory of the great Bob W.
I'm used to it now and am no longer bitter.

Chris

On 15 February 2016 at 21:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:

yayayayay!
a


On 2/15/2016 4:36 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

I might well take you up on that. I've just had a look at the cost of
flights, and they're not too bad at all in September...

B


On 15 Feb 2016, at 15:26, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Very nice shot of Bob ... as to Leiter photos and moi, well certainlywe
both like to shoot people carrying umbrellas in the snowin the
east village section of New Yorkand I"m glad I'm in good company. Now
Bob
has to get his rear in gear and get across the big pond so I
can take a photo of him standing next to one of mine :-)

ann


On 2/15/2016 3:11 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
It was in the Photographers' gallery in London and we went there with
BobW. A timeline of Saul's work from B&W, his early use of colour and
his fashion work for Vogue and other magazines.

I said that I thought that one or two of the New York pictures was
very Annsan and Bob pointed out that he'd already said that - so great
minds...

Here's Bob with said pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oox0fk95965q0bv/DSCF9662.jpg?dl=0

If you can get there, it's well worth a look.
http://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/saul-leiter

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Re: GESO ~ Vintage unmentionables

2016-02-16 Thread P.J. Alling
Of course nylons are real, and vintage late 40's and early 50's 
pre-pantyhose.  Silk stockings would have been 30's vintage.  That look 
is more or less 50's.


On 2/16/2016 1:53 PM, John wrote:

Nice, but are nylons "real"?

I thought nylons were the substitute women turned to when they couldn't
get silk stockings.

IIRC, nylon can be made from coal tar, but silk comes from caterpillars
found mostly in Asia and during WWII became a scarce resource reserved
for the manufacture of parachutes.

On 2/15/2016 8:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Tiny, full-figured pin-up model Holly Harlott wears vintage bullet
bras, girdles, real nylons, and other dainties in this fun shoot I did
last Monday. Most of the shots have been submitted to a vintage fans
publication, but these extra ones are public.

One shot is a little NSFW as it's sheer black fabric over boobies.

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/139392504892/from-a-shoot-with-model-holly-harlot-stylist 



645Z, both 55mm and 90mm macro, 100 ISO, mostly f:11, 1/125th sec.

Three lights in the most complex glamour style setup I've done to
date. Sheers used to create a giant 6 foot by 9 foot softbox, a 5 foot
stripbox for accenting, and a 7" gridded reflector for highlighting
model's face.

Styling by Julia of Gigi's House of Frills.
Makeup and hair by Judi Willrich.
Set design, lighting, photos and retouch by me.

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Re: GESO ~ Vintage unmentionables

2016-02-16 Thread John

Nice, but are nylons "real"?

I thought nylons were the substitute women turned to when they couldn't
get silk stockings.

IIRC, nylon can be made from coal tar, but silk comes from caterpillars
found mostly in Asia and during WWII became a scarce resource reserved
for the manufacture of parachutes.

On 2/15/2016 8:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Tiny, full-figured pin-up model Holly Harlott wears vintage bullet
bras, girdles, real nylons, and other dainties in this fun shoot I did
last Monday. Most of the shots have been submitted to a vintage fans
publication, but these extra ones are public.

One shot is a little NSFW as it's sheer black fabric over boobies.

http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/139392504892/from-a-shoot-with-model-holly-harlot-stylist

645Z, both 55mm and 90mm macro, 100 ISO, mostly f:11, 1/125th sec.

Three lights in the most complex glamour style setup I've done to
date. Sheers used to create a giant 6 foot by 9 foot softbox, a 5 foot
stripbox for accenting, and a 7" gridded reflector for highlighting
model's face.

Styling by Julia of Gigi's House of Frills.
Makeup and hair by Judi Willrich.
Set design, lighting, photos and retouch by me.

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Re: The Full-Frame "Thursday" rumour

2016-02-16 Thread John

Rumor I read is the wraps come off at the beginning of CP+. That would
be Thursday a week; 25 Feb.

On 2/15/2016 5:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Yeah, people have been spreading the rumour that the official
announcement is going to come on Thursday. I've been skeptical myself.
But it appears, if I'm understanding things correctly, that someone
with connections to the German Ricoh distributor has posted an "Event"
on Facebook for the official K-1 unveiling at 6:00 p.m. (German time)
on Thursday and they give the location as being Pentax Ricoh Imaging
in Hamburg. That's pretty damned specific...




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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML  wrote:

>I'll buy you a bitter in CBGB if you like. If they don't sell bitter then a 
>blonde beer should do it

They don't sell bitter or blond beer, I'm afraid. Closed around 2006.

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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Mitchell
Great! Does that mean I can come too? I'be good and carry Bob's bags
and everything...

On 16 February 2016 at 15:04, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> lol!  there there Chris I still love yatoo :-)
> ann
>
>
> On 2/16/2016 3:25 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
>>
>> Yea, Yea it's all about Bob isn't it? Ever since the notorious "Hi
>> Chris, what a shame Bob W couldn't make it" incident in Chicago, I've
>> been a minor player basking in the reflected glory of the great Bob W.
>> I'm used to it now and am no longer bitter.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 15 February 2016 at 21:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> yayayayay!
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/15/2016 4:36 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

 I might well take you up on that. I've just had a look at the cost of
 flights, and they're not too bad at all in September...

 B

> On 15 Feb 2016, at 15:26, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>
> Very nice shot of Bob ... as to Leiter photos and moi, well certainlywe
> both like to shoot people carrying umbrellas in the snowin the
> east village section of New Yorkand I"m glad I'm in good company. Now
> Bob
> has to get his rear in gear and get across the big pond so I
> can take a photo of him standing next to one of mine :-)
>
> ann
>
>> On 2/15/2016 3:11 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
>> It was in the Photographers' gallery in London and we went there with
>> BobW. A timeline of Saul's work from B&W, his early use of colour and
>> his fashion work for Vogue and other magazines.
>>
>> I said that I thought that one or two of the New York pictures was
>> very Annsan and Bob pointed out that he'd already said that - so great
>> minds...
>>
>> Here's Bob with said pictures:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/oox0fk95965q0bv/DSCF9662.jpg?dl=0
>>
>> If you can get there, it's well worth a look.
>> http://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/saul-leiter
>>
>> Chris
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PESO 2016 - 041 - GDG

2016-02-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Out for a quick walk around the neighborhood this morning at dawn …. 

  https://flic.kr/p/DeBLKG

enjoy! 
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PESO: Kalama Park Sunset

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188679&size=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Sunset at the Kihei Canoe Club

2016-02-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Don.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> Perfect postcard from the islands to warm me up over breakfast.
>
> On 2/15/16 11:26 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:44:14 -0500
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>> One of my favorite haunts on Maui:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188409&size=lg
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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 118, Issue 67

2016-02-16 Thread Donald Guthrie

I am inclined to agree with Larry here. Fun series shoot though.

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 18:57:55 -0800
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Bruce Walker wrote:

>Tiny, full-figured pin-up model Holly Harlott wears vintage bullet
>bras, girdles, real nylons, and other dainties in this fun shoot I did
>last Monday. Most of the shots have been submitted to a vintage fans
>publication, but these extra ones are public.
>
>One shot is a little NSFW as it's sheer black fabric over boobies.
>
>http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/139392504892/from-a-shoot-with-model-holly-harlot-stylist
>
>645Z, both 55mm and 90mm macro, 100 ISO, mostly f:11, 1/125th sec.
>
>Three lights in the most complex glamour style setup I've done to
>date. Sheers used to create a giant 6 foot by 9 foot softbox, a 5 foot
>stripbox for accenting, and a 7" gridded reflector for highlighting
>model's face.
>
>Styling by Julia of Gigi's House of Frills.
>Makeup and hair by Judi Willrich.
>Set design, lighting, photos and retouch by me.
>
>Comments welcome, of course.
>

Lovely model, great concept.

I'm afraid to say that I think that the shadows might have one this
round. A lot of the shadows are a bit too hard edged for my taste.  The
one on the wall behind her when she's standing, in particular.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/d0fe27a5a86a32e02be579ea4a80ea77/tumblr_o2m9gs90O01rdwvm9o2_1280.jpg

In a couple others, the ones on her neck and/or shoulder.  Mind you, I'm
not saying that I could do better, but I find as a theme those shadows
distract my attention from other, more pleasing aspects of the photos.
In general, they are the shadows from the light on camera left, fairly high

I nearly really like the one with her back to the camera:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/318fa3967584e9f2dbf8e7f3021e77e3/tumblr_o2m9gs90O01rdwvm9o3_1280.jpg  


but the light seems to flatten out her figure rather than define her
lovely curves.  The right leg and arm are nice, but I think there is too
much fill on her hips and butt.



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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread Bob W-PDML
I'll buy you a bitter in CBGB if you like. If they don't sell bitter then a 
blonde beer should do it


> On 16 Feb 2016, at 08:26, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
> Yea, Yea it's all about Bob isn't it? Ever since the notorious "Hi
> Chris, what a shame Bob W couldn't make it" incident in Chicago, I've
> been a minor player basking in the reflected glory of the great Bob W.
> I'm used to it now and am no longer bitter.
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On 15 February 2016 at 21:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> yayayayay!
>> a
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/15/2016 4:36 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>> 
>>> I might well take you up on that. I've just had a look at the cost of
>>> flights, and they're not too bad at all in September...
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
 On 15 Feb 2016, at 15:26, ann sanfedele  wrote:
 
 Very nice shot of Bob ... as to Leiter photos and moi, well certainlywe
 both like to shoot people carrying umbrellas in the snowin the
 east village section of New Yorkand I"m glad I'm in good company. Now Bob
 has to get his rear in gear and get across the big pond so I
 can take a photo of him standing next to one of mine :-)
 
 ann
 
> On 2/15/2016 3:11 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
> It was in the Photographers' gallery in London and we went there with
> BobW. A timeline of Saul's work from B&W, his early use of colour and
> his fashion work for Vogue and other magazines.
> 
> I said that I thought that one or two of the New York pictures was
> very Annsan and Bob pointed out that he'd already said that - so great
> minds...
> 
> Here's Bob with said pictures:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/oox0fk95965q0bv/DSCF9662.jpg?dl=0
> 
> If you can get there, it's well worth a look.
> http://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/saul-leiter
> 
> Chris
 
 
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Re: PESO: Sunset at the Kihei Canoe Club

2016-02-16 Thread Donald Guthrie

Perfect postcard from the islands to warm me up over breakfast.

On 2/15/16 11:26 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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One of my favorite haunts on Maui:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18188409&size=lg
K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
Comments are invited.

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Re:Re: PESO - Fire Escape

2016-02-16 Thread Donald Guthrie

Absolute agreement.

On 2/15/16 11:26 PM, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 20:46:27 -0500 From: Bruce Walker 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Perfect symmetry makes an 
intriguing composition, Rick. A fine b&w. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:37 
PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

>Another from Vancouver:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18184421
>
>Comments appreciated.
>
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PESO 2016 - 040 - GDG

2016-02-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Valentines is still hanging around ...

  https://flic.kr/p/DCMFir

enjoy! 
G

The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.


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Re: GESO ~ Vintage unmentionables

2016-02-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Hey, Larry, thanks!

I agree with you re distracting hard edged shadows. As always with my
shoots I experiment and push my boundaries. In this shoot I wanted to
purposely mix soft and hard light and the risk is that I'd end up with
some fishy shadows. It depends on the angle of the light, the pose,
and what surface is opposite the subject from the light source. In
some shots it was all perfect, but in many I was not so lucky. I tried
to arrange the spill from the key hard light to land out of the scene,
but not always possible in a small set like we had.

But as it happens, this style of lighting is favoured by the fans of
this vintage genre, so they won't notice so much. And the better shots
were submitted to the mag. Most of them worked out better than these
ones did.

I learned much from this shoot and I'll be refining my technique for
the next, you can be sure. :)


On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Tiny, full-figured pin-up model Holly Harlott wears vintage bullet
>> bras, girdles, real nylons, and other dainties in this fun shoot I did
>> last Monday. Most of the shots have been submitted to a vintage fans
>> publication, but these extra ones are public.
>>
>> One shot is a little NSFW as it's sheer black fabric over boobies.
>>
>>
>> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/post/139392504892/from-a-shoot-with-model-holly-harlot-stylist
>>
>> 645Z, both 55mm and 90mm macro, 100 ISO, mostly f:11, 1/125th sec.
>>
>> Three lights in the most complex glamour style setup I've done to
>> date. Sheers used to create a giant 6 foot by 9 foot softbox, a 5 foot
>> stripbox for accenting, and a 7" gridded reflector for highlighting
>> model's face.
>>
>> Styling by Julia of Gigi's House of Frills.
>> Makeup and hair by Judi Willrich.
>> Set design, lighting, photos and retouch by me.
>>
>> Comments welcome, of course.
>>
> Lovely model, great concept.
>
> I'm afraid to say that I think that the shadows might have one this round. A
> lot of the shadows are a bit too hard edged for my taste.  The one on the
> wall behind her when she's standing, in particular.
> http://41.media.tumblr.com/d0fe27a5a86a32e02be579ea4a80ea77/tumblr_o2m9gs90O01rdwvm9o2_1280.jpg
>
> In a couple others, the ones on her neck and/or shoulder.  Mind you, I'm not
> saying that I could do better, but I find as a theme those shadows distract
> my attention from other, more pleasing aspects of the photos. In general,
> they are the shadows from the light on camera left, fairly high
>
> I nearly really like the one with her back to the camera:
> http://41.media.tumblr.com/318fa3967584e9f2dbf8e7f3021e77e3/tumblr_o2m9gs90O01rdwvm9o3_1280.jpg
> but the light seems to flatten out her figure rather than define her lovely
> curves.  The right leg and arm are nice, but I think there is too much fill
> on her hips and butt.
>
>
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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread ann sanfedele

lol!  there there Chris I still love yatoo :-)
ann

On 2/16/2016 3:25 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

Yea, Yea it's all about Bob isn't it? Ever since the notorious "Hi
Chris, what a shame Bob W couldn't make it" incident in Chicago, I've
been a minor player basking in the reflected glory of the great Bob W.
I'm used to it now and am no longer bitter.

Chris

On 15 February 2016 at 21:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:

yayayayay!
a


On 2/15/2016 4:36 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

I might well take you up on that. I've just had a look at the cost of
flights, and they're not too bad at all in September...

B


On 15 Feb 2016, at 15:26, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Very nice shot of Bob ... as to Leiter photos and moi, well certainlywe
both like to shoot people carrying umbrellas in the snowin the
east village section of New Yorkand I"m glad I'm in good company. Now Bob
has to get his rear in gear and get across the big pond so I
can take a photo of him standing next to one of mine :-)

ann


On 2/15/2016 3:11 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
It was in the Photographers' gallery in London and we went there with
BobW. A timeline of Saul's work from B&W, his early use of colour and
his fashion work for Vogue and other magazines.

I said that I thought that one or two of the New York pictures was
very Annsan and Bob pointed out that he'd already said that - so great
minds...

Here's Bob with said pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oox0fk95965q0bv/DSCF9662.jpg?dl=0

If you can get there, it's well worth a look.
http://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/saul-leiter

Chris


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OT: BACK IN THE FOLD

2016-02-16 Thread Alan C
What a relief. My e-mail problem is resolved - inappropriate spam filters I 
was told - they worked so well, 99% of mails were blocked. Strangely enough, 
not from gmail. No indication of how the problem started in the first place 
at noon last Friday. The annoying thing is that the ISP initially said only 
I had the problem but today said they were working through all the accounts 
& resetting the filters.


Doug, to be on the safe side I'll only unsub. the other addresses after a 
couple of days.


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PESO Ladybug

2016-02-16 Thread Larry Colen
It was a beautiful sunny day today and things are starting to bloom in 
the garden.  I've got no idea what most of them are, so I got some quick 
and dirty photos to ask for help identifying them.  While I was 
photographing one flower, I saw a ladybug on the plant and got this photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25036022396/in/album-72157664157515210/

If you want to take a look and help me ID them, the whole set is at:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157664157515210

Some of them are Kenilworth Ivy, others may be lupin, there are also 
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Re: Saul Leiter Exhibition and Annsan

2016-02-16 Thread Chris Mitchell
Yea, Yea it's all about Bob isn't it? Ever since the notorious "Hi
Chris, what a shame Bob W couldn't make it" incident in Chicago, I've
been a minor player basking in the reflected glory of the great Bob W.
I'm used to it now and am no longer bitter.

Chris

On 15 February 2016 at 21:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> yayayayay!
> a
>
>
> On 2/15/2016 4:36 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>
>> I might well take you up on that. I've just had a look at the cost of
>> flights, and they're not too bad at all in September...
>>
>> B
>>
>>> On 15 Feb 2016, at 15:26, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> Very nice shot of Bob ... as to Leiter photos and moi, well certainlywe
>>> both like to shoot people carrying umbrellas in the snowin the
>>> east village section of New Yorkand I"m glad I'm in good company. Now Bob
>>> has to get his rear in gear and get across the big pond so I
>>> can take a photo of him standing next to one of mine :-)
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
 On 2/15/2016 3:11 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
 It was in the Photographers' gallery in London and we went there with
 BobW. A timeline of Saul's work from B&W, his early use of colour and
 his fashion work for Vogue and other magazines.

 I said that I thought that one or two of the New York pictures was
 very Annsan and Bob pointed out that he'd already said that - so great
 minds...

 Here's Bob with said pictures:
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/oox0fk95965q0bv/DSCF9662.jpg?dl=0

 If you can get there, it's well worth a look.
 http://thephotographersgallery.org.uk/saul-leiter

 Chris
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