Re: Northern Kruger Birds

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller

Alan, I meant time of day - around sunrise & around sunset.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan C" 

Subject: Re: Northern Kruger Birds


Thanks, Ken. Do you mean time of the day or post processing? Unfortunately 
we have had a very hot, dry summer with blazing sunshine most days.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Ken Waller

Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:01 AM
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Subject: Re: Northern Kruger Birds

All nice examples and settings but they a cryout for better, less harsh
light.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan C" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: GESO: Northern Kruger Birds


Six bird images from the northern part of the Kruger Park. Saddlebill 
Storks are endangered so it was good to see a breeding pair with a chick. 
The Longtailed Glossy Starlings are uncommon & only found in the Pafuri 
area. Oh for a 600mm!


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/

All with the K7 & HD 55-300

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Re: OT: Floppy Brummy

2016-04-04 Thread David Mann
On Apr 5, 2016, at 5:28 AM, John Francis  wrote:

> Back in the days when it was invented (in 1950), binary multiplication was 
> done
> by shifting and adding.  Shifting was fast, but adding took significantly 
> longer.
[snip]

That was very interesting.  I still use shift operators all the time to 
multiply or divide by powers-of-2, although it's probably no faster these days. 
 Many years ago I read that it was, and the habit has stuck.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread David Mann
I liked Philip's photo too.  Fantastic shot and it makes me wonder what 
happened next.  I've definitely no sailor: I've had enough sailing on wavy land 
to bother with the water.

Also love Ann's one.

I wanted to participate but sadly couldn't think of anything interesting.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 3:31 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Henk. Now why couldn't I think of an imaginative title like that?
> 
> My favourite is Philips's "On Different Tacks" with Port trumping Starboard. 
> If youv'e ever been in a tacking duel, you'll know what I mean.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Henk Terhell
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:33 PM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: April PUG - Now Up!
> 
> Thanks Brian
> 
> I also like in particular that Great Attractor tree by Alan.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2016-04-04 om 15:03 schreef Brian Walters:
>> G'day all,
>> 
>> One of the more interesting recent galleries
>> 
>> Most went for a literal interpretation (Ken didn't even need to leave
>> his living room to do so!) but there were several that interpreted the
>> theme differently.
>> 
>> Dan and Malcolm used 'a fork in the road of life' in their submissions
>> while Phillip found a nautical interpretation and Paul went down the
>> architectural route.  Then there's Igor's 'Choosing Slowly', which
>> certainly expands the boundaries of the theme.
>> 
>> Overall, my favourite is Henk's 'Traveller' narrowly ahead of Ken's
>> 'Pitchin Michigan'.
>> 
>> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
> 
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Re: PESO - Leaf Footed Bug

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen



Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Wow.  Super detail and stunningly crisp.

UGLY critter, however .  .  .  .


Maybe so, but he's an excellent macro photographer.



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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Mark C  wrote:

Been a while since I did one of these stacked macros, so here goes:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/leaf-footed-bug-2016

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/25636542834

Pentax K3 and reverse mounted SMC-K 24mm f3.5 on extension. Approximately 4x
lifesized, 59 stacked exposures.

Comments welcome!

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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen



Ken Waller wrote:

The 'best' is better than good enough. Well done Larry.


Thanks a bunch Ken. Also Jack, Paul, Alan and anyone I might have missed.


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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen



Paul wrote:

This is a really nice set of images...I prefer those taken with the
natural background, but they're all worthy of consideration, with the
exception of 12338.

She has a real "girl next door" look about her. 11675 would be my choice
of the three with the guitar,and since I'm a sucker for pretty girls in
hats, my other choices would be 30276 and 30313.

12338 is a cute pose but the seat of the stool doesn't show (at least on
my monitor) and it looks like she's somehow floating.


Thanks for the heads up. I just dodged the visible bit of the stool seat 
a bit to make it more visible.


Thanks a bunch for the helpful feedback, and of course the kind words.


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Re: PESO and Question about colorspace limitations

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller

Specifically, desaturate in the red since the other colors seem ok.

FWIW - I spend time in-camera checking the histogram in RGB specifically to 
avoid this situation.


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- Original Message - 
From: "David Mann" 

Subject: Re: PESO and Question about colorspace limitations


Maybe desaturate it a bit to bring it back into gamut?  You might even be 
able to do so selectively on the petals, to avoid stuffing up the rest of 
the photo.


Cheers,
Dave


On Apr 3, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



What do you do when the destination colorspace does not have the color 
you need?
Let's say you have a photo, you look at the "soft proof" in LR (or in 
PS), and you see that the "center-piece" color is way out of the 
destination gamut. For example, I have the photo of this red flower

http://42graphy.org/misc/Flower_IR32063.jpg
In reality, that red is more toward orange. SRGB color space does not 
have that color. I see how LR is going to change (you can see the 
result), and I can change the color mapping (colorimetric or perceptual), 
but it is still far from the "reality" (or what I think the reality is).


I know that in some cases, especially with soft-proofing for printing, 
adjustments of the curve (often brightening or darkening) can help.
Unfortunately, this portion of the gamut seems to be really far away from 
the SRGB boundary, so small tweaking of highlights and/or shadows, or the 
saturation or luminance of the red channel alone doesn't help.
Is there some trick here that I am missing that could help adjusting the 
colors, or, essentially the best I can do is just leave with the 
conversion LR (or PS) does?

Previously, I had a similar situation with the carrot-type orange.

Any thoughts and suggestions?

Also, - in this case, this conversion of the red makes the top petals 
blend together, and I cannot seem to find the "knob" to enhance the 
separation.


All comments are very welcome!

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Re: Need help choosing 3 photos (GESO of a sort)

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller

It's the third one for me - more even dispersal of the buds.

The second image isn't helped by the top edge having tree trunks included in 
the LH corner.


The third image has a more or less blank foreground missing the even 
dispersal of floweres in the rest of the image.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Igor PDML-StR" 

Subject: Need help choosing 3 photos (GESO of a sort)





Hi All!

I am trying to understand preferences of different people.
Here are three different shots of flowers:
http://42graphy.org/misc/FlowersToChoose/
I would appreciate if you can tell me which of these three work or do not 
work for you. And, it would be especially valuable if you can say why.



Many thanks in advance!

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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Paul
This is a really nice set of images...I prefer those taken with the 
natural background, but they're all worthy of consideration, with the 
exception of 12338.


She has a real "girl next door" look about her. 11675 would be my choice 
of the three with the guitar,and since I'm a sucker for pretty girls in 
hats, my other choices would be 30276 and 30313.


12338 is a cute pose but the seat of the stool doesn't show (at least on 
my monitor) and it looks like she's somehow floating.


-p

On 4/4/2016 11:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Thank you, the first in the set? Or the first I mentioned?
I'm thinking of forwarding the comments to her to help her choose for the album 
cover.

On April 4, 2016 8:13:38 PM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:

The first is my immediate and unwavering choice, Rick.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 7:44:01 PM
Subject: Re: PESO Michelle

Very nice. Works well against black. Dynamic.

Paul via phone



Paul via phone

On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
shine through.

Rick
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video

with

people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that

were a

bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we

did a

studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.

This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day.

Unusual

for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled

strobe.  K-3

II with the FA 77 at f/4.5



https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/


The full set is here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/

Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while

Michelle and I

were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and

narrowed them

down to a manageable number for me to go through.


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Re: PESO - Leaf Footed Bug

2016-04-04 Thread Nicole Jacque
Wow!  Now that's a closeup!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> Been a while since I did one of these stacked macros, so here goes:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/leaf-footed-bug-2016
> 
> or on flickr:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/25636542834
> 
> Pentax K3 and reverse mounted SMC-K 24mm f3.5 on extension. Approximately 4x 
> lifesized, 59 stacked exposures.
> 
> Comments welcome!
> 
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Re: PESO: Bananas!

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'd be happy to switch apple bananas for Cavendish.

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> We had a banana tree in the garden when I was a child, living in Singapore.
>
> 'Regular' bananas are in big trouble.
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35131751
>
> B
>
>> On 4 Apr 2016, at 15:10, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>
>> A plant outside or resort office in Maui:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18212840
>> K-5 IIs, FA 100mm Macro F2.8
>> Comments are invited.
>>
>> These are the native "apple bananas,"  Apple bananas are shorter and
>> plumper than regular bananas, with a thicker peel. The  flesh is firm
>> and creamy. The flavor and aroma are more intense, with hints of apple
>> or even pineapple and strawberry as it ripens more.  They are widely
>> available on Maui, and generally picked when just ripe, making them
>> much tastier and satisfying than bananas picked when green and hard in
>> the Caribbean.
>>
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Re: PESO - Leaf Footed Bug

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wow.  Super detail and stunningly crisp.

UGLY critter, however .  .  .  .
Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Been a while since I did one of these stacked macros, so here goes:
>
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/leaf-footed-bug-2016
>
> or on flickr:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/25636542834
>
> Pentax K3 and reverse mounted SMC-K 24mm f3.5 on extension. Approximately 4x
> lifesized, 59 stacked exposures.
>
> Comments welcome!
>
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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Alan C
"I'm thinking of forwarding the comments to her to help her choose for the 
album cover."


In that case, the 1st or 2nd in the set.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Colen

Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 6:33 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Michelle

Thank you, the first in the set? Or the first I mentioned?
I'm thinking of forwarding the comments to her to help her choose for the 
album cover.


On April 4, 2016 8:13:38 PM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:

The first is my immediate and unwavering choice, Rick.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 7:44:01 PM
Subject: Re: PESO Michelle

Very nice. Works well against black. Dynamic.

Paul via phone



Paul via phone

On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
shine through.

Rick
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video

with

people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that

were a

bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we

did a

studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.

This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day.

Unusual

for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled

strobe.  K-3

II with the FA 77 at f/4.5



https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/


The full set is here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/

Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while

Michelle and I

were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and

narrowed them

down to a manageable number for me to go through.


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Re: Northern Kruger Birds

2016-04-04 Thread Alan C
Thanks, Ken. Do you mean time of the day or post processing? Unfortunately 
we have had a very hot, dry summer with blazing sunshine most days.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:01 AM
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Subject: Re: Northern Kruger Birds

All nice examples and settings but they a cryout for better, less harsh
light.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan C" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: GESO: Northern Kruger Birds


Six bird images from the northern part of the Kruger Park. Saddlebill 
Storks are endangered so it was good to see a breeding pair with a chick. 
The Longtailed Glossy Starlings are uncommon & only found in the Pafuri 
area. Oh for a 600mm!


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/

All with the K7 & HD 55-300

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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen
Thank you, the first in the set? Or the first I mentioned?
I'm thinking of forwarding the comments to her to help her choose for the album 
cover.

On April 4, 2016 8:13:38 PM PDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>The first is my immediate and unwavering choice, Rick.
>
>J
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Paul Stenquist" 
>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 7:44:01 PM
>Subject: Re: PESO Michelle
>
>Very nice. Works well against black. Dynamic.
>
>Paul via phone
>
>
>
>Paul via phone
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
>> the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
>> shine through.
>> 
>> Rick
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video
>with
>>> people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that
>were a
>>> bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we
>did a
>>> studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.
>>> 
>>> This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day.
>Unusual
>>> for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled
>strobe.  K-3
>>> II with the FA 77 at f/4.5
>>> 
>>>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/
>>> 
>>> The full set is here:
>>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/
>>> 
>>> Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while
>Michelle and I
>>> were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and
>narrowed them
>>> down to a manageable number for me to go through.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>http://red4est.com/lrc
>>> 
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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Alan C

Well done, Larry. You did a good job there. Quite a lady!

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Colen

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 10:49 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss List
Subject: PESO Michelle

You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video
with people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that
were a bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we
did a studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.

This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day.
Unusual for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled
strobe.  K-3 II with the FA 77 at f/4.5

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/

The full set is here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/

Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle
and I were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and
narrowed them down to a manageable number for me to go through.


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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Jack Davis
Sorry Rick. I find it's not yours.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Jack Davis" 
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 8:13:38 PM
Subject: Re: PESO Michelle

The first is my immediate and unwavering choice, Rick.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 7:44:01 PM
Subject: Re: PESO Michelle

Very nice. Works well against black. Dynamic.

Paul via phone



Paul via phone
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
> the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
> shine through.
> 
> Rick
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
>> people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
>> bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
>> studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.
>> 
>> This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
>> for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
>> II with the FA 77 at f/4.5
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/
>> 
>> The full set is here:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/
>> 
>> Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
>> were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
>> down to a manageable number for me to go through.
>> 
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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Jack Davis
The first is my immediate and unwavering choice, Rick.

J

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 7:44:01 PM
Subject: Re: PESO Michelle

Very nice. Works well against black. Dynamic.

Paul via phone



Paul via phone
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
> the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
> shine through.
> 
> Rick
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
>> people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
>> bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
>> studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.
>> 
>> This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
>> for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
>> II with the FA 77 at f/4.5
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/
>> 
>> The full set is here:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/
>> 
>> Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
>> were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
>> down to a manageable number for me to go through.
>> 
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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller
The 'best' is better than good enough. Well done Larry.


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: Re: PESO Michelle
>
>Very nice. Works well against black. Dynamic.
>
>Paul via phone
>
>
>
>Paul via phone
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>> 
>> Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
>> the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
>> shine through.
>> 
>> Rick
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
>>> people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
>>> bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
>>> studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.
>>> 
>>> This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
>>> for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
>>> II with the FA 77 at f/4.5
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/
>>> 
>>> The full set is here:
>>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/
>>> 
>>> Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
>>> were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
>>> down to a manageable number for me to go through.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. Works well against black. Dynamic.

Paul via phone



Paul via phone
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
> the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
> shine through.
> 
> Rick
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
>> people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
>> bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
>> studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.
>> 
>> This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
>> for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
>> II with the FA 77 at f/4.5
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/
>> 
>> The full set is here:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/
>> 
>> Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
>> were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
>> down to a manageable number for me to go through.
>> 
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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> 
> Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > On 5/4/16, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> The 1.4 is what?  ~95%  as good
> >> in depth
> >> of field for less than a third of the price.  Unless you want the LX
> >> gold plated
> >> 1.2, in which case it's even better value.
> >>
> >> Looks like a case of lens envy overwhelming photographic commonsense.
> >
> > All true.
> >
> > If no bargains present, then the 1.4 it will be. Actually not as cheap
> > these days as  they used to be!
> 
> I bet you could pick up a 50/1.4 supertak darned cheap, and it should 
> work just fine on a mirrorless unit.


You can.  I did. It does.


Cheers

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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Bill

On 4/4/2016 6:21 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 5/4/16, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


The 1.4 is what?  ~95%  as good
in depth
of field for less than a third of the price.  Unless you want the LX
gold plated
1.2, in which case it's even better value.

Looks like a case of lens envy overwhelming photographic commonsense.


All true.

If no bargains present, then the 1.4 it will be. Actually not as cheap
these days as  they used to be!


I bet you could pick up a 50/1.4 supertak darned cheap, and it should
work just fine on a mirrorless unit.






I'm pretty sure I have one of those somewhere too.


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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen



Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 5/4/16, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


The 1.4 is what?  ~95%  as good
in depth
of field for less than a third of the price.  Unless you want the LX
gold plated
1.2, in which case it's even better value.

Looks like a case of lens envy overwhelming photographic commonsense.


All true.

If no bargains present, then the 1.4 it will be. Actually not as cheap
these days as  they used to be!


I bet you could pick up a 50/1.4 supertak darned cheap, and it should 
work just fine on a mirrorless unit.






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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen

Thanks, Ann, Bruce, and everyone else who looked.

ann sanfedele wrote:

Larry lots of really nice takes here- I lean toward the natural light
ones... of the ones with a backdrop, I think all
the unlit background ones are better than most all of the others against
a lit background... so nice to have someone
so comfortable in front of your camera and sparkling with personality..

Since you have so many gems, I would strongly suggest dropping a couple
that standout to me as not up to your standards -
they look like typical photo store portraits - the ones where she is
wearing the dark jacket and the lavender topand are not tight closeups
especially 30522 - .


Thanks for the feedback.  The ultimate goal of this shoot was a cover 
for her next album.  I tried to get a variety of styles to give her more 
to choose from.




I'm with Rick on 1 and 4 especially... It is hard to highlight which
ones I like on flicker because I can't cut and paste the numbers
and I can't remember what they are...

If she sings half as good as she looks she should be making a
comfortable income :-)


She is really quite a marvelous and sweet woman.

If you are curious about her music:
http://michellechappel.com/music/

For what it's worth, the cover of "shake it up" is one that I took at 
Don Quixote's in Felton several years ago.  There are many, many 
technical problems with that photo, but she really liked it.


A couple of her songs have actually done quite well in Australia.




ann

On 4/4/2016 6:01 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
shine through.

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video
with
people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that
were a
bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.

This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day.
Unusual
for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.
K-3
II with the FA 77 at f/4.5

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/


The full set is here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/

Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle
and I
were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and
narrowed them
down to a manageable number for me to go through.


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Re: OT: Advice wanted for Antivirus/Firewall (Windows 10)

2016-04-04 Thread Bill

I've been using MalwareBytes for some time and am very happy with it.

bill

On 4/4/2016 5:40 PM, John Francis wrote:


We have recebtly accquired a new PC for use at home.

For the last heaven knows how many years we've used AVG
Internet Security on all our home systems, but I'm less
than happy with trying to get AVG up and running on this
new system.  HP, in their infinite wisdom, installed a
trial version of McAfee's competing product on the machine,
and AVG fails when it tries to install itself in place of
the McAfee product.  AVG support seems to be unresponsive,
and the advice from their forums is for me to remove McAfee
before trying to install AVG.  I might be prepared to do
this, were it not for two issues: 1) several people who have
tried this report that it still doesn't work, and 2) since
AVG installs via a network download (rather than allowing me
to create a standalone install package first, then disconnect
from the internet) I'd have to have an unprotected machine
with a live internet connection during the install, with no
guarantee that I'd end up with a successful installation.
Given that, and the lack of response from AVG support,
I'm looking for an alternative solution.

I've asked a few people I know for recommendations, and I've
been pointed to either Kaspersky or Avast as good products.
Nobody, however, seemed to think that relying on the McAfee
product was a particularly good idea.

Would anyone care to weigh in on the subject, and let me know
what they would recommend for someone in my situation?





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Re: OT: Advice wanted for Antivirus/Firewall (Windows 10)

2016-04-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Having dealt with Kaspersky professionally (I helped integrate their
OEM stuff into my former company's security products, and I dealt with
Mr Kaspersky himself), I would recommend that _very_ highly. Super
responsive to changing threats and less intrusive than many products.


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:40 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> We have recebtly accquired a new PC for use at home.
>
> For the last heaven knows how many years we've used AVG
> Internet Security on all our home systems, but I'm less
> than happy with trying to get AVG up and running on this
> new system.  HP, in their infinite wisdom, installed a
> trial version of McAfee's competing product on the machine,
> and AVG fails when it tries to install itself in place of
> the McAfee product.  AVG support seems to be unresponsive,
> and the advice from their forums is for me to remove McAfee
> before trying to install AVG.  I might be prepared to do
> this, were it not for two issues: 1) several people who have
> tried this report that it still doesn't work, and 2) since
> AVG installs via a network download (rather than allowing me
> to create a standalone install package first, then disconnect
> from the internet) I'd have to have an unprotected machine
> with a live internet connection during the install, with no
> guarantee that I'd end up with a successful installation.
> Given that, and the lack of response from AVG support,
> I'm looking for an alternative solution.
>
> I've asked a few people I know for recommendations, and I've
> been pointed to either Kaspersky or Avast as good products.
> Nobody, however, seemed to think that relying on the McAfee
> product was a particularly good idea.
>
> Would anyone care to weigh in on the subject, and let me know
> what they would recommend for someone in my situation?
>
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OT: Advice wanted for Antivirus/Firewall (Windows 10)

2016-04-04 Thread John Francis

We have recebtly accquired a new PC for use at home.
 
For the last heaven knows how many years we've used AVG
Internet Security on all our home systems, but I'm less  
than happy with trying to get AVG up and running on this
new system.  HP, in their infinite wisdom, installed a
trial version of McAfee's competing product on the machine, 
and AVG fails when it tries to install itself in place of
the McAfee product.  AVG support seems to be unresponsive,
and the advice from their forums is for me to remove McAfee
before trying to install AVG.  I might be prepared to do
this, were it not for two issues: 1) several people who have
tried this report that it still doesn't work, and 2) since
AVG installs via a network download (rather than allowing me
to create a standalone install package first, then disconnect
from the internet) I'd have to have an unprotected machine
with a live internet connection during the install, with no
guarantee that I'd end up with a successful installation.
Given that, and the lack of response from AVG support,
I'm looking for an alternative solution.

I've asked a few people I know for recommendations, and I've
been pointed to either Kaspersky or Avast as good products. 
Nobody, however, seemed to think that relying on the McAfee
product was a particularly good idea.

Would anyone care to weigh in on the subject, and let me know
what they would recommend for someone in my situation? 


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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Bill

On 4/4/2016 5:24 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 4/4/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:


No, I just now what a cheap motherfucker you are.


Well now I do believe you have Scottish blood in you. Even I can't claim
that right.



1 step from Auchtermuchty.
Apparently the Proclaimers are second cousins or some such.

I raided my wife from the Sassenach too. :)
If you can't find a K50/1.2 for a price you like, I will maybe see if I 
can pry one of my K50/1.4s out of my hands for you.



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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree with Rick, and I'd point out the 2nd as the overall winner.
Very nice set.


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
> the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
> shine through.
>
> Rick
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
>> people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
>> bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
>> studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.
>>
>> This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
>> for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
>> II with the FA 77 at f/4.5
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/
>>
>> The full set is here:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/
>>
>> Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
>> were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
>> down to a manageable number for me to go through.
>>
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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/4/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I think I have two of them in K series, as well as an M and an A.





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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/4/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>No, I just now what a cheap motherfucker you are.

Well now I do believe you have Scottish blood in you. Even I can't claim
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Re: April PUG - no time to waste

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

>On 4/4/16, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>With only a few weeks left to go you're really grasping at straws now!
>
>Straw hats :-D

I see. Trying to increase the fibre in your diet.
 
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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Bruce Walker
Divide by zero error. There's no such thing as "photographic commonsense".

Anyway you don't pick lenses using math. You take them out on dates to
see if you're compatible. It's more an emo thing.


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:11 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
>> On 04 April 2016 at 23:51 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/4/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>> >I'll take his $10.00 and raise it another $5.00.
>>
>> I think your decimal points are out a bit
>
> The 1.4 is what?  ~95% as good in 
> depth
> of field for less than a third of the price.  Unless you want the LX gold 
> plated
> 1.2, in which case it's even better value.
>
> Looks like a case of lens envy overwhelming photographic commonsense.




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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Bill

On 4/4/2016 5:19 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 5/4/16, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


The 1.4 is what?  ~95% as good
in depth
of field for less than a third of the price.  Unless you want the LX
gold plated
1.2, in which case it's even better value.

Looks like a case of lens envy overwhelming photographic commonsense.


All true.

If no bargains present, then the 1.4 it will be. Actually not as cheap
these days as  they used to be!



I think I have two of them in K series, as well as an M and an A.


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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Bill

On 4/4/2016 4:51 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 4/4/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:


I'll take his $10.00 and raise it another $5.00.


I think your decimal points are out a bit


No, I just now what a cheap motherfucker you are.

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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 5/4/16, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The 1.4 is what?  ~95% as good
>in depth
>of field for less than a third of the price.  Unless you want the LX
>gold plated
>1.2, in which case it's even better value.
>
>Looks like a case of lens envy overwhelming photographic commonsense.

All true.

If no bargains present, then the 1.4 it will be. Actually not as cheap
these days as  they used to be!

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PESO - Leaf Footed Bug

2016-04-04 Thread Mark C

Been a while since I did one of these stacked macros, so here goes:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/leaf-footed-bug-2016

or on flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcassino/25636542834

Pentax K3 and reverse mounted SMC-K 24mm f3.5 on extension. 
Approximately 4x lifesized, 59 stacked exposures.


Comments welcome!

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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread mike wilson
> On 04 April 2016 at 23:51 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/4/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >I'll take his $10.00 and raise it another $5.00.
> 
> I think your decimal points are out a bit

The 1.4 is what?  ~95% as good in depth
of field for less than a third of the price.  Unless you want the LX gold plated
1.2, in which case it's even better value.

Looks like a case of lens envy overwhelming photographic commonsense.

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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread ann sanfedele
Larry lots of really nice takes here- I lean toward the natural light 
ones... of the ones with a backdrop, I think all
the unlit background ones are better than most all of the others against 
a lit background... so nice to have someone

so comfortable in front of your camera and sparkling with personality..

Since you have so many gems, I would strongly suggest dropping a couple 
that standout to me as not up to your standards -
they look like typical photo store portraits  - the ones where she is 
wearing the dark jacket and the lavender topand are not tight closeups

especially 30522 - .

I'm with Rick on 1 and 4 especially...  It is hard to highlight which 
ones I like on flicker because I can't cut and paste the numbers

and I can't remember what they are...

If she sings half as good as she looks she should be making a 
comfortable income :-)


ann

On 4/4/2016 6:01 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
shine through.

Rick
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.

This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
II with the FA 77 at f/4.5

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/

The full set is here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/

Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/4/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I'll take his $10.00 and raise it another $5.00.

I think your decimal points are out a bit

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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen



Rick Womer wrote:

Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
shine through.


Thanks Rick.




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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.

This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
II with the FA 77 at f/4.5

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/

The full set is here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/

Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
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Re: WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Bill

On 4/4/2016 4:41 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Anyone have a K50/1.2 that's sitting doing nothing?

If the price is right.


I'll take his $10.00 and raise it another $5.00.


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WTB - K50/1.2

2016-04-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
Anyone have a K50/1.2 that's sitting doing nothing?

If the price is right.

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Re: April PUG - no time to waste

2016-04-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/4/16, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>With only a few weeks left to go you're really grasping at straws now!

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Re: How to fly with a tripod

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller
Darren, I've flown alot with my tripods (all Gitzos & big enough to handle a 
600mm lens) & have either carried them onboard & stored in the overhead or 
shipped them with my clothes in a suitable bag (I've used duffle bags on 
occasion). Heads attached either way.


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Subject: How to fly with a tripod



No this isn't an April Fools post on how to accomplish the Wright
Brother's achievement, using nothing but a tripod; It is a request for
information on the best way to transport a tripod via commercial
airlines.

I should have thought about this long before now, but... I've got a
"normal" Manfrotto (good sized) tripod. I'm going to take the 3-way
head with. I've got the Manfrotto soft (zippered) case for it. Is that
good enough to trust to the gorillas that throw baggage around? I can
pack with some bubble wrap in there, if that will help.

Alternative suggestions? Thanks in advance.

PS... I plan on carrying-on a backpack with camera video gear that is
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Re: OT: You can never have too many lenses?

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller

Very interesting.

So you really can have too many posts !

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Subject: Re: OT: You can never have too many lenses?


Sorry Stan. You are a nice guy but, in this case, you are being very very 
naive.


I take your denial as a challenge. Google-Fu is my superpower.
:)

The poster you are referring to goes by "zackiedawg" on 
boards.cruisecritic.com

His join date was Sept 2004 and he has 2195 post there. If ThIS post
is any indication, one may find out more about his personal life by
registering for the site, clicking on his username and selecting "Find
all posts by zackiedawg". One doesn't even have to do that to find out
that his location is Boca Raton, FL. You see, we have a tendency to
use the same username across multiple web sites, so simply Googling
"zackiedawg" will give you his member page at dpreview (and with a
membership you can find his posting history there where you could
glean much more about him, I'm sure). If he's lying about his
location,  then he's also lying about it on cameralabs.com, and
vwvortex.com (which he last visited today at 3:57 PM. (He has 3317
posts there and drives a 2015 Audi Allroad.) His pbase page gives us
his actual name.

Fortunately for him, his name is sort of generic so you can't just
plug in his name and find his address (for free anyway). There are
sites where you could buy a membership and get full reports on anybody
you want - so a professional criminal could easily get full reports on
all of them. Whoever had a 2015 Audi Allroad registered to him would
be the dead giveaway.

Each site to which someone registers has a Profile page and each
profile page can contain additional clues of identity. His VWVortex
page says that he is in the Financial/Insurance career. So you google
his name, city and "Insurance" for example, and you find his work
email and position (which I did). His office is about 15 miles from
Boca Raton. His work contact page tells us that he went to Tulane
University. But really the only thing you need to nail down an
identity from a range of people with the same name in the same town is
a middle initial or an age. Whitepages.com will often give you an
exact address and even a Google map with a pin for your address.

In addition, any of those message boards are potentially places for
social engineering to take place. All one would have to do is engage
in some forum back-and-forth or a private message to find out whatever
small piece of information you need to pin down an exact identity (how
old they are or what their middle name is, for example). Once you know
where somebody works it is a short hop to knowing when they will be at
work (not at home), whether they are married, have kids, etc. All
figuring out a good time to break into the house.



On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:
In general I might agree Larry, Darren. However, the person whose list I 
quoted is quite well hidden. The particular blog does not show real names 
or emails so it would be difficult to trace back to the actual person 
without breaking into the blog’s mainframe. Unless the individual at some 
point had a side conversation and shared his email address in the open 
blog, and even then it might be a burner special purpose email.


As a practical issue, my biggest knock on the listing I shared is that it 
is not very helpful; too detailed, just a data dump, inadequately 
formatted, no summarization. If I were looking for someone to advise on a 
particular camera/lens combo within that community, I would post a note 
saying “does anybody have any experience with xx/yy camera/lens combo?" 
Even if I do a Search within the blog and happen to get a hit on this guy’s 
note, there is no real information there and I still need to post my 
question. (There is no way to do a message directed to an individual. 
Unlike here in the PDML where it is possible to see the sender’s email 
address.)


stan


On Mar 31, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

I agree, Larry. With all of the online info today a good Google sleuth
can probably track down your home address with little problem AND also
find out via your Facebook page when you will be out of town on
business. One might as well give a thief a written invitation.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Malcolm Smith wrote:


Darren Addy wrote:

To be clear, it wasn't the making of lists I was commenting on. It 
was

the broadcasting of them.



Agreed. They do have their use for a photographer within the home, 
rather

than on the web.



I'm sure that they are quite helpful for the shopping habits of those 
with

less scrupulous morals.



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Re: PESO - Crocus Field

2016-04-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. I like the tighter view, at least when viewed on a phone. For a huge 
print I might opt for the wide view. But both work well.

Paul via phone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Nice glimpse of spring.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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> 
> - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" 
> Subject: PESO - Crocus Field
> 
> 
>> That's what they call it. Not sure whether I prefer the wider or narrower 
>> FOV crop:
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18207695=lg
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18203632=lg
>> 
>> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>> 
>> Comments appreciated.
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Rick Womer
Very nice set! The first, second, and fourth are my favorites, though
the one you chose is really nice too. You've made her personality
shine through.

Rick
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video with
> people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that were a
> bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we did a
> studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.
>
> This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. Unusual
> for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled strobe.  K-3
> II with the FA 77 at f/4.5
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/
>
> The full set is here:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/
>
> Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle and I
> were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and narrowed them
> down to a manageable number for me to go through.
>
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Re: Northern Kruger Birds

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller
All nice examples and settings but they a cryout for better, less harsh 
light.


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- Original Message - 
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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Subject: GESO: Northern Kruger Birds


Six bird images from the northern part of the Kruger Park. Saddlebill 
Storks are endangered so it was good to see a breeding pair with a chick. 
The Longtailed Glossy Starlings are uncommon & only found in the Pafuri 
area. Oh for a 600mm!


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/

All with the K7 & HD 55-300

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Re: Boris PESO #16 - Seven Seas of Rhye

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller

But for a digital photo, it does have a lot of grain.


It also has a wonderful field of view.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: Boris PESO #16 - Seven Seas of Rhye



Nicely composed.

But for a digital photo, it does have a lot of grain.

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/03/2016-14-seven-seas-of-rhye.html

Listening to Queen as I post... Oddly it seems to fit the photograph.

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Re: PESO - Crocus Field

2016-04-04 Thread Ken Waller

Nice glimpse of spring.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Womer" 

Subject: PESO - Crocus Field


That's what they call it. Not sure whether I prefer the wider or narrower 
FOV crop:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18207695=lg

and

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18203632=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: April PUG - no time to waste

2016-04-04 Thread John
I was just looking at B a moment ago. They're saying "Expected 
availability: April 29 2016"


On 4/4/2016 5:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Got an email from B today. Got my blood pumping, but a letdown followed: 
Still not in stock. I'm thinking two weeks at the most.

Paul via phone


On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

Steve Cottrell wrote:


Oh the hat will get eaten, rest assured.

When the vapourware starts shipping ;-)


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Re: April PUG - no time to waste

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

>Got an email from B today. Got my blood pumping, but a letdown followed: 
>Still not in stock. I'm thinking two weeks at the most.

B has been really good about sending a "not in stock" notice at the
beginning of every month since I ordered. Just to make clear that they
haven't forgotten about me and that my order is still in place.

>Paul via phone
>
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> 
>> Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh the hat will get eaten, rest assured.
>>> 
>>> When the vapourware starts shipping ;-)
>> 
>> With only a few weeks left to go you're really grasping at straws now!
 
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Re: Damn. Some seriously impressive astrophotography here.

2016-04-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
I'll get my flash...

> On 4 Apr 2016, at 22:08, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Astronomy Photographer of the Year competition
> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2016/apr/04/northern-lights-blood-moons-and-brilliant-stars-in-pictures
> Still two weeks left to enter if you've got any shots better than
> these ;-)
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Re: April PUG - no time to waste

2016-04-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Got an email from B today. Got my blood pumping, but a letdown followed: 
Still not in stock. I'm thinking two weeks at the most.

Paul via phone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Steve Cottrell wrote:
> 
>> Oh the hat will get eaten, rest assured.
>> 
>> When the vapourware starts shipping ;-)
> 
> With only a few weeks left to go you're really grasping at straws now!
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Re: Damn. Some seriously impressive astrophotography here.

2016-04-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Inspirational.

Paul via phone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Astronomy Photographer of the Year competition
> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2016/apr/04/northern-lights-blood-moons-and-brilliant-stars-in-pictures
> Still two weeks left to enter if you've got any shots better than
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Re: April PUG - no time to waste

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

>Oh the hat will get eaten, rest assured.
>
>When the vapourware starts shipping ;-)

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Damn. Some seriously impressive astrophotography here.

2016-04-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Astronomy Photographer of the Year competition
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2016/apr/04/northern-lights-blood-moons-and-brilliant-stars-in-pictures
Still two weeks left to enter if you've got any shots better than
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Re: OT: Floppy Brummy

2016-04-04 Thread John

I like Dilbert Ok, but the real hero of that strip is Wally!

On 4/4/2016 4:29 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

"I mean, how hard is it to rearrange zeroes and ones all day?"

http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-03-06

http://dilbert.com/strip/2010-04-24




On 4 Apr 2016, at 18:29, John Francis  wrote:

On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 08:47:13PM +0100, Bob W-PDML wrote:


also tried to dig into his multiplication algorithm, but became impatient


Back in the days when it was invented (in 1950), binary multiplication was done
by shifting and adding.  Shifting was fast, but adding took significantly 
longer.
This meant that. to a first-order approximation, the time to multiply by a 
number
was directly proportional to the number of '1' bits in the binary representation
of that number.

Booth's algorithm attempts to speed the multiplication process up by reducing 
the
number of addition steps needed. It does this by looking for a string of '1' 
bits
anywhere in the number and handling all of them in two addition steps. To take a
very simple example, if it found a string of four '1' bits somewhere in the 
number
('', in binary, represents the number 15) it would, instead, treat this as 
if
it were "16 - 1"; the "-1" is handled by adding the negative value of the number
being multiplied, and the 16 is handled a little later on by one further 
addition.
(16 is a power of two, so only has a single '1' bit in its binary 
representation)

The actual implementation is rather clever, and is again designed for the 
hardware
of the day (where fast register storage was the most expensive part of a 
computer);
it uses the same shift register to hold the multiplier and the eventual product,
can produce a double-length product using ony a single-length adder, and only 
has
to look at the two low-order bits of the shift register to decide whether to add
the positive or negative representation of the multiplicand, or to do nothing.
(If you want even more details, there's a fairly good Wikipedia article).


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Re: April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
ann's picture wins for me this month. Just superb. 

B 

> On 4 Apr 2016, at 14:04, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> G'day all,
> 
> One of the more interesting recent galleries
> 
> Most went for a literal interpretation (Ken didn't even need to leave
> his living room to do so!) but there were several that interpreted the
> theme differently.
> 
> Dan and Malcolm used 'a fork in the road of life' in their submissions
> while Phillip found a nautical interpretation and Paul went down the
> architectural route.  Then there's Igor's 'Choosing Slowly', which
> certainly expands the boundaries of the theme.
> 
> Overall, my favourite is Henk's 'Traveller' narrowly ahead of Ken's
> 'Pitchin Michigan'.
> 
> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next Up: "Golden Hour".
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: PESO: Bananas!

2016-04-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
We had a banana tree in the garden when I was a child, living in Singapore.

'Regular' bananas are in big trouble.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35131751

B

> On 4 Apr 2016, at 15:10, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> A plant outside or resort office in Maui:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18212840
> K-5 IIs, FA 100mm Macro F2.8
> Comments are invited.
> 
> These are the native "apple bananas,"  Apple bananas are shorter and
> plumper than regular bananas, with a thicker peel. The  flesh is firm
> and creamy. The flavor and aroma are more intense, with hints of apple
> or even pineapple and strawberry as it ripens more.  They are widely
> available on Maui, and generally picked when just ripe, making them
> much tastier and satisfying than bananas picked when green and hard in
> the Caribbean.
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PESO Michelle

2016-04-04 Thread Larry Colen
You may remember the photo set I did a while back of the music video 
with people dressed up as super heroes. Michelle wanted some photos that 
were a bit more conventional portraits to use on the album cover, and we 
did a studio shoot in my backyard yesterday.


This was one of the best, taken very close to the end of a long day. 
Unusual for the set in that I didn't light the backdrop with a gelled 
strobe.  K-3 II with the FA 77 at f/4.5


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/25965541630/in/album-7215762839521/

The full set is here:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762839521/

Many thanks to Nicole who did the hardest job, in that while Michelle 
and I were shooting, she made a couple passes through the photos and 
narrowed them down to a manageable number for me to go through.



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Re: OT: Floppy Brummy

2016-04-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
"I mean, how hard is it to rearrange zeroes and ones all day?"

http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-03-06

http://dilbert.com/strip/2010-04-24



> On 4 Apr 2016, at 18:29, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 08:47:13PM +0100, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>> 
>>> also tried to dig into his multiplication algorithm, but became impatient
> 
> Back in the days when it was invented (in 1950), binary multiplication was 
> done
> by shifting and adding.  Shifting was fast, but adding took significantly 
> longer.
> This meant that. to a first-order approximation, the time to multiply by a 
> number
> was directly proportional to the number of '1' bits in the binary 
> representation
> of that number.
> 
> Booth's algorithm attempts to speed the multiplication process up by reducing 
> the
> number of addition steps needed. It does this by looking for a string of '1' 
> bits
> anywhere in the number and handling all of them in two addition steps. To 
> take a
> very simple example, if it found a string of four '1' bits somewhere in the 
> number
> ('', in binary, represents the number 15) it would, instead, treat this 
> as if
> it were "16 - 1"; the "-1" is handled by adding the negative value of the 
> number
> being multiplied, and the 16 is handled a little later on by one further 
> addition.
> (16 is a power of two, so only has a single '1' bit in its binary 
> representation)
> 
> The actual implementation is rather clever, and is again designed for the 
> hardware
> of the day (where fast register storage was the most expensive part of a 
> computer);
> it uses the same shift register to hold the multiplier and the eventual 
> product,
> can produce a double-length product using ony a single-length adder, and only 
> has
> to look at the two low-order bits of the shift register to decide whether to 
> add
> the positive or negative representation of the multiplicand, or to do nothing.
> (If you want even more details, there's a fairly good Wikipedia article).
> 
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Re: OT: Floppy Brummy

2016-04-04 Thread mike wilson
> On 04 April 2016 at 18:28 John Francis  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 08:47:13PM +0100, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> > > 
> > > also tried to dig into his multiplication algorithm, but became impatient
> 
> Back in the days when it was invented (in 1950), binary multiplication was
> done
> by shifting and adding.  Shifting was fast, but adding took significantly
> longer.
> This meant that. to a first-order approximation, the time to multiply by a
> number
> was directly proportional to the number of '1' bits in the binary
> representation
> of that number.
> 
> Booth's algorithm attempts to speed the multiplication process up by reducing
> the
> number of addition steps needed. It does this by looking for a string of '1'
> bits
> anywhere in the number and handling all of them in two addition steps. To take
> a
> very simple example, if it found a string of four '1' bits somewhere in the
> number
> ('', in binary, represents the number 15) it would, instead, treat this as
> if
> it were "16 - 1"; the "-1" is handled by adding the negative value of the
> number
> being multiplied, and the 16 is handled a little later on by one further
> addition.
> (16 is a power of two, so only has a single '1' bit in its binary
> representation)
> 
> The actual implementation is rather clever, and is again designed for the
> hardware
> of the day (where fast register storage was the most expensive part of a
> computer);
> it uses the same shift register to hold the multiplier and the eventual
> product,
> can produce a double-length product using ony a single-length adder, and only
> has
> to look at the two low-order bits of the shift register to decide whether to
> add
> the positive or negative representation of the multiplicand, or to do nothing.
> (If you want even more details, there's a fairly good Wikipedia article).

I thiink I just lost the will to live.

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Re: OT: Floppy Brummy

2016-04-04 Thread Stanley Halpin
Thanks Bob. Disclosure: I am not a computer people. But that didn’t stop me 
from messing around with them.
Thus I did find this quiet interesting. In particular I was struck by how much 
I took for granted over the years. As an undergrad, early 60s, I did odd-job 
data analyses for one of my professors. Using Marchant electronic calculators 
to do additions and cross-products needed for calculating correlation 
coefficients. I had no idea I was on the cutting edge! I used old-tech IBM 1401 
Accounting Machines which I programmed by moving jumper cables around on a 
15-20 pound board that fit into the rack on the end of the machine. Moved on to 
Job Control Language running early versions of BioMed stat programs on the 
IMB760. Had no clue that I was using one of the early models of that machine! 
On to grad school, used the second-ever-built CDC 6500 to process my data while 
colleagues were running their lab equipment via PDP-8 computers. (IIRC, the 
Apollo 11 onboard computer was comparable to the PDP-8.) And then the IBM 360 
(IIRC) whose boot-up required 2 boxes of cards to initiate/install the OS, then 
another 2-3 boxes of cards to install the language (FORTRAN or LISP) before we 
could load programs. Convincing my committee and then the department head and 
the dean that it was appropriate to substitute FORTRAN for one of my two 
required foreign language requirements. My early work environment, reading 
octal coredumps from our CDC 3500 to debug programs designed to capture user 
input timing...

I won’t go on in detail but suffice it to say that your linked story took me on 
a trip down memory lane. Byte magazine articles debating the relative merits of 
MS-DOS vs. the other 1-2 popular OS on the market for 8086 machines. Graphic 
terminals. Smart terminals. PC’s. Osborn laptop. Compaq computers. Color dot 
matrix printers for which I had to write the print driver. Word Star. Word 
Perfect.  A friend at DARPA explaining the “desktop metaphor” graphic interface 
work he was supporting at XEROX-PARC.  LISP Machines. Sun Workstations. More 
PC’s. and finally, the light at the end of the tunnel: Macs! Hypertext. DARpa 
Net and the 3-week wait to be approved as a user and be assigned a name. 
USEnet. 256kb modems… We have lived in interesting times.

stan 


> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> An interesting article for the computer people on the list:
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35924858
> 
> B
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Re: OT: Floppy Brummy

2016-04-04 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 08:47:13PM +0100, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> > 
> > also tried to dig into his multiplication algorithm, but became impatient

Back in the days when it was invented (in 1950), binary multiplication was done
by shifting and adding.  Shifting was fast, but adding took significantly 
longer.
This meant that. to a first-order approximation, the time to multiply by a 
number
was directly proportional to the number of '1' bits in the binary representation
of that number.

Booth's algorithm attempts to speed the multiplication process up by reducing 
the
number of addition steps needed. It does this by looking for a string of '1' 
bits
anywhere in the number and handling all of them in two addition steps. To take a
very simple example, if it found a string of four '1' bits somewhere in the 
number
('', in binary, represents the number 15) it would, instead, treat this as 
if
it were "16 - 1"; the "-1" is handled by adding the negative value of the number
being multiplied, and the 16 is handled a little later on by one further 
addition.
(16 is a power of two, so only has a single '1' bit in its binary 
representation)

The actual implementation is rather clever, and is again designed for the 
hardware
of the day (where fast register storage was the most expensive part of a 
computer);
it uses the same shift register to hold the multiplier and the eventual product,
can produce a double-length product using ony a single-length adder, and only 
has
to look at the two low-order bits of the shift register to decide whether to add
the positive or negative representation of the multiplicand, or to do nothing.
(If you want even more details, there's a fairly good Wikipedia article).


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Re: PESO: Mummers

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Apparently that was the case this year .  .  .
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Well, when they're struttin' down Broad St. on New Year's day, they're
> just as lavishly dressed, but... umm.. not ~quite~ as sober.
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> They were just warming up in my image!
>>
>> It's a Philadelphia tradition on New Year's Eve, but some of the bands
>> take out-of-town gigs to publicize the Big Parade in the City of
>> Brotherly Love.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:21 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> More SEDATE??? than elsewhere? YIkes !
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/3/2016 8:12 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Nice colorful pic. Your central Jersey mummers seem a more sedate group
 that their Philly brethren.

 Rick

 On Apr 3, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>  From our local St Patrick's day Parade:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18212479=lg
> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
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Re: PESO: Mummers

2016-04-04 Thread Rick Womer
Well, when they're struttin' down Broad St. on New Year's day, they're
just as lavishly dressed, but... umm.. not ~quite~ as sober.
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> They were just warming up in my image!
>
> It's a Philadelphia tradition on New Year's Eve, but some of the bands
> take out-of-town gigs to publicize the Big Parade in the City of
> Brotherly Love.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:21 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> More SEDATE??? than elsewhere? YIkes !
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2016 8:12 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice colorful pic. Your central Jersey mummers seem a more sedate group
>>> that their Philly brethren.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>
  From our local St Patrick's day Parade:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18212479=lg
 K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
 Comments are invited.

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Re: April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread Alan C

Thanks, Henk. Now why couldn't I think of an imaginative title like that?

My favourite is Philips's "On Different Tacks" with Port trumping Starboard. 
If youv'e ever been in a tacking duel, you'll know what I mean.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Henk Terhell

Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:33 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: April PUG - Now Up!

Thanks Brian

I also like in particular that Great Attractor tree by Alan.

Henk

Op 2016-04-04 om 15:03 schreef Brian Walters:

G'day all,

One of the more interesting recent galleries

Most went for a literal interpretation (Ken didn't even need to leave
his living room to do so!) but there were several that interpreted the
theme differently.

Dan and Malcolm used 'a fork in the road of life' in their submissions
while Phillip found a nautical interpretation and Paul went down the
architectural route.  Then there's Igor's 'Choosing Slowly', which
certainly expands the boundaries of the theme.

Overall, my favourite is Henk's 'Traveller' narrowly ahead of Ken's
'Pitchin Michigan'.

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Re: April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:11 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Dan promoted "thinking _outside_ the box" but his photo was just the
> opposite on a certain low level for those with naughty minds ;-)

TSK, tsk, Ann!  

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PESO: Bananas!

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A plant outside or resort office in Maui:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18212840
K-5 IIs, FA 100mm Macro F2.8
Comments are invited.

These are the native "apple bananas,"  Apple bananas are shorter and
plumper than regular bananas, with a thicker peel. The  flesh is firm
and creamy. The flavor and aroma are more intense, with hints of apple
or even pineapple and strawberry as it ripens more.  They are widely
available on Maui, and generally picked when just ripe, making them
much tastier and satisfying than bananas picked when green and hard in
the Caribbean.

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Re: April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread ann sanfedele
Well I actually like yours best , Brian, from a totally nice shot point 
of viewthat works with the theme too... but Pat and Ken's forks 
delighted... Ken, Iwas gonna do essentially what you didwith a map and a 
fork but was too consumed with other stuff...


Love that both Paul and Pat were able to find such super appropriate 
shots in their files - (um maybe Paul just walked down the street 
recently for his.)

Pat's works on mutiple levels for me.. nice geometry :-)

Dan promoted "thinking _outside_ the box" but his photo was just the 
opposite on a certain low level for those with naughty minds ;-)


I guess just Illustrating an expression, as opposed to just this one, 
may not workbecause of cross-cultural variationsthat would be missed unless

it was in your knowledge base...

mymy I'm blabby this morning

ann

On 4/4/2016 9:33 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Thanks Brian

I also like in particular that Great Attractor tree by Alan.

Henk

Op 2016-04-04 om 15:03 schreef Brian Walters:

G'day all,

One of the more interesting recent galleries

Most went for a literal interpretation (Ken didn't even need to leave
his living room to do so!) but there were several that interpreted the
theme differently.

Dan and Malcolm used 'a fork in the road of life' in their submissions
while Phillip found a nautical interpretation and Paul went down the
architectural route.  Then there's Igor's 'Choosing Slowly', which
certainly expands the boundaries of the theme.

Overall, my favourite is Henk's 'Traveller' narrowly ahead of Ken's
'Pitchin Michigan'.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/







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Re: Mummers

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking, Bipin and Bob.

Out little town's parade is quite an event.  There are six bagpipe and
drum banks, three HS bands, lots of scout, sports and martial arts
groups, the Irish Wolfhound Club, Llamas, patriotic and military
units, and more than 60 emergency vehicle from all over the area.
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:29 AM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> Awesome St. Patrick Day parade photos Sir.
> The very colorful dresses makes the event more photogenic.
>
> I remember St. Patrick's Day was very special in our Boarding Public
> School run by the Christian Brothers of Ireland.
> There would be feasting throughout the day, with our own parades,
> movies & late night swimming with hot chocolate.
>
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Re: April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My favorite is Henk's, for the way it interprets the theme and also
because of its visual power.  I also like Ann's but I can't really
explain why;  I just like it.  perhaps it is my distaste for stop
signs .  .  .  .
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:03 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> One of the more interesting recent galleries
>
> Most went for a literal interpretation (Ken didn't even need to leave
> his living room to do so!) but there were several that interpreted the
> theme differently.
>
> Dan and Malcolm used 'a fork in the road of life' in their submissions
> while Phillip found a nautical interpretation and Paul went down the
> architectural route.  Then there's Igor's 'Choosing Slowly', which
> certainly expands the boundaries of the theme.
>
> Overall, my favourite is Henk's 'Traveller' narrowly ahead of Ken's
> 'Pitchin Michigan'.
>
> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
>
> +
>
> Next Up: "Golden Hour".
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
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>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread Henk Terhell

Thanks Brian

I also like in particular that Great Attractor tree by Alan.

Henk

Op 2016-04-04 om 15:03 schreef Brian Walters:

G'day all,

One of the more interesting recent galleries

Most went for a literal interpretation (Ken didn't even need to leave
his living room to do so!) but there were several that interpreted the
theme differently.

Dan and Malcolm used 'a fork in the road of life' in their submissions
while Phillip found a nautical interpretation and Paul went down the
architectural route.  Then there's Igor's 'Choosing Slowly', which
certainly expands the boundaries of the theme.

Overall, my favourite is Henk's 'Traveller' narrowly ahead of Ken's
'Pitchin Michigan'.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

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Re: OT - A-Muse-N-Dog

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I find it clever and amusing.

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 12:01 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>
>
> I thought that some PDMLers might like this story...
> .. or, maybe, strongly dislike it ..
> Childish it might look, I smiled while rea.. err. viewing it:
> http://www.zippla.net/funny-photos-of-dog/
>
> Cheers,
>
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Re: PESO: Mummers

2016-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
They were just warming up in my image!

It's a Philadelphia tradition on New Year's Eve, but some of the bands
take out-of-town gigs to publicize the Big Parade in the City of
Brotherly Love.

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On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:21 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> More SEDATE??? than elsewhere? YIkes !
>
> ann
>
>
> On 4/3/2016 8:12 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>
>> Nice colorful pic. Your central Jersey mummers seem a more sedate group
>> that their Philly brethren.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>>>  From our local St Patrick's day Parade:
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18212479=lg
>>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135
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April PUG - Now Up!

2016-04-04 Thread Brian Walters
G'day all,

One of the more interesting recent galleries

Most went for a literal interpretation (Ken didn't even need to leave
his living room to do so!) but there were several that interpreted the
theme differently.

Dan and Malcolm used 'a fork in the road of life' in their submissions
while Phillip found a nautical interpretation and Paul went down the
architectural route.  Then there's Igor's 'Choosing Slowly', which
certainly expands the boundaries of the theme.

Overall, my favourite is Henk's 'Traveller' narrowly ahead of Ken's
'Pitchin Michigan'.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

Next Up: "Golden Hour".

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


Cheers

Brian

++
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Re: April PUG - no time to waste

2016-04-04 Thread John

I might be able to find something for "Golden Hour".

Everything I thought of for "Fork in the road" just seemed stupid,
clichéd or banal, if not all three. I couldn't think of anything I
wouldn't be embarrassed to put up.

On 4/3/2016 3:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

None of us will now. Submissions closed.

Now it's time to start meditating on what we won't do for Golden Hour.


On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 3:44 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

That was my idea, a quite road with a model, walking down the road, with a
giant table fork over their shoulder.

You can fill in any details your imagination wishes to supply, I will not be
held responsible.

If anyone wishes to use that idea, be my guest, I won't be able to.

On 4/1/2016 8:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Think outside the box.

"When you come a fork in the road, take it."

Yogi Berra
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:45 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


struggling here on this theme - and finding time to hunt too

... now if you'd said "crossroads" ...

sigh
ann

On 3/31/2016 5:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Saturday evening (Sydney time).

Theme: A Fork in the Road

As usual submit here:

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Re: 2016 Grandfather Mountain Nature Photography Weekend

2016-04-04 Thread John

Well, FWIW, I'm registered. If y'all come, I'll see you there.

On 3/30/2016 2:49 PM, John wrote:

FYI

On-line registration opens at 8:00am Eastern Daylight Time Monday April
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Re: Mummers

2016-04-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
Your Christian Brothers were very different from the ones who ran my prep 
school. Their motto was 'spare the rod and spoil the child'.

Ignorant, brutal, superstitious thugs, every single one of them.

"Boys were prepared for passing exams by a combination of relentless study and 
remorseless use of the strap, an 8in-long leather baton which thrashed young 
hands, legs and bottoms with all the regularity of the chiming of the angelus 
bell."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/christian-brothers-make-their-deathbed-confession-1268168.html

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> On 4 Apr 2016, at 07:30, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> 
> Awesome St. Patrick Day parade photos Sir.
> The very colorful dresses makes the event more photogenic.
> 
> I remember St. Patrick's Day was very special in our Boarding Public
> School run by the Christian Brothers of Ireland.
> There would be feasting throughout the day, with our own parades,
> movies & late night swimming with hot chocolate.
> 
> Regards.
> 
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Mummers

2016-04-04 Thread Bipin Gupta
Awesome St. Patrick Day parade photos Sir.
The very colorful dresses makes the event more photogenic.

I remember St. Patrick's Day was very special in our Boarding Public
School run by the Christian Brothers of Ireland.
There would be feasting throughout the day, with our own parades,
movies & late night swimming with hot chocolate.

Regards.

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