Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

[Larry Colen]

Jostein wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-72157645295895989/


AT 10:30PM the temperature here is 14C, tomorrow it should be back up to 
26C.






Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I
used for work today. :-)

Jostein



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RE: PESO: Holiday Wreath -- New Mexico Style

[Malcolm Smith]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18308442


Very different, Nice capture!

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RE: November PUG - An Update

[Malcolm Smith]

Brian Walters wrote:

http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/RW-London12-15-109-2.html
+

Great picture Rick; brings back dark memories for me as I spent many hours
there over the years.

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RE: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

[Malcolm Smith]

Jostein wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-7215764529589598
9/
+++

That's a lot of snow. My relations in Scotland have snow, we've just had
heavy rain all night!

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Re: PESO: Holiday Wreath -- New Mexico Style

[Ken Waller]

I love the way chilies are so used as 'decorations' in New Mexico, one of my 
favoritem vegetables !


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>Subject: PESO: Holiday Wreath -- New Mexico Style
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18308442
>Comments are invited.
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RE: Bay Area meetup with the Coyle's

[John Coyle]

Can I leave it up to you guys to sort out an itinerary, as we really have
little idea of what's good to visit.  The only caveat is that Jan would like
to see the redwoods, so that might help the decision-making process.  We're
happy to visit SF itself on a by-foot trip on the alternative day.

John in LA

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Subject: Bay Area meetup with the Coyle's

I haven't seen any discussion about meeting up with John and Jan this week.
I might not be able to drive at the track event on Thursday, so I might be
free then, but I have Friday blocked of to visit with them.

I'm also curious about their, other people's interest in seeing a bit more
of the bay area than just SF.  My suggestion would be to head down the coast
from SF to moss landing with a possible detour to the redwoods in my
neighborhood, and meeting for dinner someplace in the South Bay or on the
Peninsula.
I'd be totally up for giving them a ride for at least half of the loop if
someone could get them from SSF/Brisbane/Daly City down the coast. 
Maybe meeting up at Pigeon Point or Half Moon bay on their drive down.

Points of interest on that loop:
The new park at Devil's slide
Various parks and beaches down the coast:
Waddell Creek
Wilder Ranch
Davenport, sharkfin cove
Pigeon Point Lighthouse

Henry Cowell, Fall Creek, Castle rock or Big Basin parks

Innumerable wineries

There are often lots of critters to see at Moss Landing. John Francis seemed
to enjoy our visit a few weeks ago, where I got my best sea otter photos so
far.

Boomeria in the Santa Cruz mountains, where a teacher from my high school
used to let the students have big water battles and let them build a castle,
tunnels and a 2500 pipe organ http://boomeria.com/tour/tour.html
http://boomeria.com/tour/pipeorgn.html

Roaring camp, the steam train in Felton can also be worth a few minutes and
is next door to Henry Cowell state park.

In downtown Santa Cruz, Pacific Ave can be an entertaining blend of touristy
shopping and hippie buskers and street venders, and there is also the wharf,
boardwalk, and a few miles south the cement boat.

There are, of course, plenty of iconic things to see and do in SF, and
Marin, but they want to see some of the more unique bits of the Bay Area.

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Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

[Bill]

On 11/8/2016 12:52 PM, Jostein wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-72157645295895989/


Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I
used for work today. :-)

Jostein



The one that is attached to a team of sled dogs?

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PESO: Holiday Wreath -- New Mexico Style

[Daniel J. Matyola]

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Comments are invited.

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Re: November PUG - An Update

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A nice, glitzy pleasing iconic image, with a lot going on.

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On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> G'day all
>
> It seems that Rick Womer's submission went missing in transit.  It
> didn't arrive in my inbox but, after Rick notified me of the omission, I
> found it in the Komkon inbox.
>
> So - it's now been added and a fine image it is too.  Take a look:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/RW-London12-15-109-2.html
>
> Sorry about the snafu, Rick!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: PESO: Watching me

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Ann. Yes, a reach on my part, but I'm struck by the way the bird's eyes 
look to the side. Makes me wonder what their field of view looks like.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 7:22 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Nice capture,
> 
> but it doesn't look to me that he is watching you  from the way the light is 
> hitting his eye... he looks like he is ignoring you :-)
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 11/8/2016 1:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> IIRC, the field of view is nearly 180 degrees. The fovea (area of
>> greatest sharpness on the retina) is way off-center so that it is
>> still engaged when looking ahead. I also recall reading that raptors
>> have the equivalent of 20/4 vision, and it includes UV.
>> 
>> Rick
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Malcolm Smith  
>>> wrote:
>>> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> 
>>> Another sparrow, shot at a modest 1/80th second shutter speed and an ISO of 
>>> about 1500. That seems to be a fast enough shutter to yield sharp results 
>>> if the bird is perching. This is with the DA 1.4X converter and the D FA 
>>> 150-450. The stop is f8 and the focal length is 630 mm.
>>> 
>>> I always wonder what the bird’s field of vision is like. They must see more 
>>> than 180 degrees.
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18308070&size=lg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> They must have good vision around here, as the cat population is so high. 
>>> Great image, make the use of the warm weather whilst you can, the 
>>> temperature has dipped noticeably here.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm
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Re: PESO: Watching me

[ann sanfedele]

Nice capture,

but it doesn't look to me that he is watching you  from the way the 
light is hitting his eye... he looks like he is ignoring you :-)


ann


On 11/8/2016 1:23 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

IIRC, the field of view is nearly 180 degrees. The fovea (area of
greatest sharpness on the retina) is way off-center so that it is
still engaged when looking ahead. I also recall reading that raptors
have the equivalent of 20/4 vision, and it includes UV.

Rick
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On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Another sparrow, shot at a modest 1/80th second shutter speed and an ISO of 
about 1500. That seems to be a fast enough shutter to yield sharp results if 
the bird is perching. This is with the DA 1.4X converter and the D FA 150-450. 
The stop is f8 and the focal length is 630 mm.

I always wonder what the bird’s field of vision is like. They must see more 
than 180 degrees.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18308070&size=lg


They must have good vision around here, as the cat population is so high. Great 
image, make the use of the warm weather whilst you can, the temperature has 
dipped noticeably here.

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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 8/11/16, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I had to type "I side with Cotty here" five times before it stuck
>on the screen.

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Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

[Steve Cottrell]

On 8/11/16, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed:

>https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/
album-72157645295895989/
>
>Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I 
>used for work today. :-)

Wow!

If I win the lottery I'll get you a Land Rover ;-)

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Re: November PUG - An Update

[Bob W-PDML]

Looks like the Strand Palace Hotel, on the Strand. That must be very nearly a 
year ago.

B

> On 8 Nov 2016, at 22:40, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Great shot. Is that Harrod's up ahead on the left?
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
>> 
>> G'day all
>> 
>> It seems that Rick Womer's submission went missing in transit.  It
>> didn't arrive in my inbox but, after Rick notified me of the omission, I
>> found it in the Komkon inbox.
>> 
>> So - it's now been added and a fine image it is too.  Take a look:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/RW-London12-15-109-2.html
>> 
>> Sorry about the snafu, Rick!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
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Re: November PUG - An Update

[ann sanfedele]

Certainly agree! (about the fine image, not the snafu hehe)

ann



On 11/8/2016 4:34 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

It seems that Rick Womer's submission went missing in transit.  It
didn't arrive in my inbox but, after Rick notified me of the omission, I
found it in the Komkon inbox.

So - it's now been added and a fine image it is too.  Take a look:

http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/RW-London12-15-109-2.html

Sorry about the snafu, Rick!



Cheers

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Re: November PUG - An Update

[Paul Stenquist]

Great shot. Is that Harrod's up ahead on the left?

Paul via phone

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 4:34 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
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> G'day all
> 
> It seems that Rick Womer's submission went missing in transit.  It
> didn't arrive in my inbox but, after Rick notified me of the omission, I
> found it in the Komkon inbox.
> 
> So - it's now been added and a fine image it is too.  Take a look:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/RW-London12-15-109-2.html
> 
> Sorry about the snafu, Rick!
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

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On 7 Nov 2016 22:35, "Steve Cottrell"  wrote:
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> On 6/11/16, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >I side with Cotty here - X20 is a good option.
> >I must put one on my Christmas list...
>
> Why Christopher I do believe this is a first ;-)

I know. I had to type "I side with Cotty here" five times before it stuck
on the screen.

>
> You been playing with Bob's ?

I'm far too gentlemanly to confirm or deny that.

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November PUG - An Update

[Brian Walters]

G'day all

It seems that Rick Womer's submission went missing in transit.  It
didn't arrive in my inbox but, after Rick notified me of the omission, I
found it in the Komkon inbox.

So - it's now been added and a fine image it is too.  Take a look:

http://pug.komkon.org/16nov/slides/RW-London12-15-109-2.html

Sorry about the snafu, Rick!



Cheers

Brian

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Bay Area meetup with the Coyle's

[Larry Colen]

I haven't seen any discussion about meeting up with John and Jan this 
week.  I might not be able to drive at the track event on Thursday, so I 
might be free then, but I have Friday blocked of to visit with them.


I'm also curious about their, other people's interest in seeing a bit 
more of the bay area than just SF.  My suggestion would be to head down 
the coast from SF to moss landing with a possible detour to the redwoods 
in my neighborhood, and meeting for dinner someplace in the South Bay or 
on the Peninsula.
I'd be totally up for giving them a ride for at least half of the loop 
if someone could get them from SSF/Brisbane/Daly City down the coast. 
Maybe meeting up at Pigeon Point or Half Moon bay on their drive down.


Points of interest on that loop:
The new park at Devil's slide
Various parks and beaches down the coast:
Waddell Creek
Wilder Ranch
Davenport, sharkfin cove
Pigeon Point Lighthouse

Henry Cowell, Fall Creek, Castle rock or Big Basin parks

Innumerable wineries

There are often lots of critters to see at Moss Landing. John Francis 
seemed to enjoy our visit a few weeks ago, where I got my best sea otter 
photos so far.


Boomeria in the Santa Cruz mountains, where a teacher from my high 
school used to let the students have big water battles and let them 
build a castle, tunnels and a 2500 pipe organ

http://boomeria.com/tour/tour.html
http://boomeria.com/tour/pipeorgn.html

Roaring camp, the steam train in Felton can also be worth a few minutes 
and is next door to Henry Cowell state park.


In downtown Santa Cruz, Pacific Ave can be an entertaining blend of 
touristy shopping and hippie buskers and street venders, and there is 
also the wharf, boardwalk, and a few miles south the cement boat.


There are, of course, plenty of iconic things to see and do in SF, and 
Marin, but they want to see some of the more unique bits of the Bay Area.


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Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'

[Ken Waller]

appreciate the comments Dan and Bulent

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'



Beautiful colors and an unusual, fresh view of the creature.

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2016-11-08 4:14 GMT+03:00 Ken Waller :

Its a Darner of undetermined Genus. (possibly a Fawn Darner)

Taken late Auguest in the U P of Michigan in Seney National Wildlife 
Reserve
on a dewey, cool, early morning with K3, 200mm f4.0 ED  Macro SMCP A*. 
1/25

s at f4.0, 400 ISO.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307675

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Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'

[Ken Waller]

Thanks for commenting Paul and Larry.

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From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'





Ken Waller wrote:

Its a Darner of undetermined Genus. (possibly a Fawn Darner)

Taken late Auguest in the U P of Michigan in Seney National Wildlife
Reserve on a dewey, cool, early morning with K3, 200mm f4.0 ED Macro
SMCP A*. 1/25 s at f4.0, 400 ISO.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307675

Comments ?


Nicely done.



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Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'

[Ken Waller]

- I hope the little critter survived the dew drops


Not to worry ann... as the sun rose the dew was dissipated and the roosting 
dragon flys took to the air.


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From: "ann sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'



nice one - like the placementin the frame and the simplicity of it all

- I hope the little critter survived the dew drops

ann


On 11/7/2016 8:14 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Its a Darner of undetermined Genus. (possibly a Fawn Darner)

Taken late Auguest in the U P of Michigan in Seney National Wildlife 
Reserve on a dewey, cool, early morning with K3, 200mm f4.0 ED  Macro 
SMCP A*.  1/25 s at f4.0, 400 ISO.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307675

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Re: It's time for a digital flash

[Ken Waller]

Looks like a happening church party !

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Subject: Re: It's time for a digital flash



I have a Sigma EF500DG Super that I have used very rarely with the K-5
(the sensor being so good); but it has done well. The K-5's flash
features are well supported. My best results have been in slave mode
with the pop-up as the trigger. Getting the channels sorted out is a
bit of a pain (despite instructions translated from Chinese, via
Gaelic and Inuit), but it has worked very well.

This shot (from a photo booth at a church holiday party) was ISO 800,
1/90, f/4, Sigma flash bounced off a projection screen at camera left,
camera flash in controller mode:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17927209

The EF610DG Super is the current model.

Rick
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On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Collin B wrote:


I need to re-shoot some of my new daughter-in-law/her mother pre-wedding
shots.
The originals, not by me, were done with her mother's hair still in
curlers.
My assigned task is to reshoot them.
But I really do want something better than the pop-up flash on the K5.
Lens will be either the F50/1.7 or the FA28/2.8, though the FA28-105 may
be
used as it's respectable.
Anyway. I've not gotten a digital flash before.  What's a recommended 
unit

suitable for the K5 that will give quality results.



You're going to need a really big opener for that can of worms.

It's my experience that it's harder to learn to get good results from a
flash, than it is to learn to use a camera.  Once again I'll suggest the
book "Light, Science and Magic". I'll also suggest that if you can, you 
will

want to get the flash off the camera and use radio triggers.  The yongnuo
triggers are cheap and reliable.  Unfortunately I have not had nearly as
good of luck with their speedlights. The YN560IV is an awesome manual 
flash,

for about a month, until it stops working.

I had horrible luck with my fgz540, but other people have had better 
luck. I
am curious about the fgz540-II.  I've got a metz 58, and it's 
serviceable.


If you don't need TTL, you may want to check out the lumopro
https://mpex.com/demo-lumopro-lp180-flash.html

Or their radio control version
https://mpex.com/lumopro-lp180r-off-camera-flash.html



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Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

[Igor PDML-StR]

The car that was parked in the garage? (not pictured)
;-)

Please, send some snow to us... It's just chilled off on the weekend here, 
- down to low 70s F (~ +21-22 C)


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On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jostein wrote:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-72157645295895989/

Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I used
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Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

[P.J. Alling]

The first snowfall of the season in southern New England, is usually 
less than an inch, in fact usually less than a dusting.  This would shut 
most of Connecticut down, if we didn't have time to acclimate to the 
snow, and we laugh at places that can't handle less than an inch of the 
stuff.


On 11/8/2016 1:52 PM, Jostein wrote:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-72157645295895989/ 



Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I 
used for work today. :-)


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Re: PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

[Daniel J. Matyola]

WOW!  That's a lot of snow for the first week in November.

It was 29 F early this morning when I took my dog to the park.  Of course,
he loved it!

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On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jostein  wrote:

> https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-
> 72157645295895989/
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> Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I used
> for work today. :-)
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Re: It's time for a digital flash

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I have a Sigma EF500DG Super that I have used very rarely with the K-5
(the sensor being so good); but it has done well. The K-5's flash
features are well supported. My best results have been in slave mode
with the pop-up as the trigger. Getting the channels sorted out is a
bit of a pain (despite instructions translated from Chinese, via
Gaelic and Inuit), but it has worked very well.

This shot (from a photo booth at a church holiday party) was ISO 800,
1/90, f/4, Sigma flash bounced off a projection screen at camera left,
camera flash in controller mode:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17927209

The EF610DG Super is the current model.

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On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Collin B wrote:
>>
>> I need to re-shoot some of my new daughter-in-law/her mother pre-wedding
>> shots.
>> The originals, not by me, were done with her mother's hair still in
>> curlers.
>> My assigned task is to reshoot them.
>> But I really do want something better than the pop-up flash on the K5.
>> Lens will be either the F50/1.7 or the FA28/2.8, though the FA28-105 may
>> be
>> used as it's respectable.
>> Anyway. I've not gotten a digital flash before.  What's a recommended unit
>> suitable for the K5 that will give quality results.
>
>
> You're going to need a really big opener for that can of worms.
>
> It's my experience that it's harder to learn to get good results from a
> flash, than it is to learn to use a camera.  Once again I'll suggest the
> book "Light, Science and Magic". I'll also suggest that if you can, you will
> want to get the flash off the camera and use radio triggers.  The yongnuo
> triggers are cheap and reliable.  Unfortunately I have not had nearly as
> good of luck with their speedlights. The YN560IV is an awesome manual flash,
> for about a month, until it stops working.
>
> I had horrible luck with my fgz540, but other people have had better luck. I
> am curious about the fgz540-II.  I've got a metz 58, and it's serviceable.
>
> If you don't need TTL, you may want to check out the lumopro
> https://mpex.com/demo-lumopro-lp180-flash.html
>
> Or their radio control version
> https://mpex.com/lumopro-lp180r-off-camera-flash.html
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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PESO - Meanwhile, in Norway

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunfoto/30827918316/in/album-72157645295895989/

Shot this afternoon. You are granted exactly one guess at which car I 
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, sir!

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> Mine too. Beautiful work.
>
> - Marco
>
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:18 AM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:
>>
>> Hills of Galilee is my favorite...
>>
>> Bulent
>> -
>> http://patoloji.gen.tr
>> http://celasun.wordpress.com/
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
>> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
>>
>>
>> 2016-11-07 21:56 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman :
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
>>> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
>>> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
>>> which are from this trip:
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
>>> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
>>> festival that takes place annualy in our town
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
>>> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
>>> their way south for winter.
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
>>> lens...
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
>>> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
>>> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
>>> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
>>> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
>>> - Hills of Galilee
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
>>> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
>>> the Sea of Galilee...
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
>>> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
>>> and got this effect...
>>>
>>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
>>> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
>>> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
>>>
>>> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
>>> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
>>>
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

These are some kind of cranes. I've no idea on specifics. As I wrote
just a moment ago, Israel happens to be a very busy hub of annual bird
migrations.

The little village is interesting in a sense that it belongs to
Circassian community is Israel. This is very small yet fascinating
community and surely should anyone come over, I'd be taking them to
that little restaurant we had our lunch in.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 3:29 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> I like that one a lot too, but also the three flying cranes (Boris, are
> those white napedcranes?) and the view of the town that's name starts with R
>
> (I just lost the link or Id look)
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 11/8/2016 4:28 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:
>>
>> Boris Liberman wrote:
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
>> under
>> the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get some nice
>> light and some rather nice scenery too...
>> +++
>>
>> Under The Canopy is my favourite. An interesting gallery.
>>
>> Malcolm
>>
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Paul!

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Nice work, Boris. Love the hills of Gallilee
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>
>> Love the storks.
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman
>> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 8:56 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
>> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
>> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
>> which are from this trip:
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
>> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
>> festival that takes place annualy in our town
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
>> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
>> their way south for winter.
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
>> lens...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
>> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
>> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
>> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
>> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
>> - Hills of Galilee
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
>> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
>> the Sea of Galilee...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
>> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
>> and got this effect...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
>> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
>> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
>>
>> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
>> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
>>
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

Yep. We were said that a month from that time it would be even more,
way more birds as they migrate from Europe to Africa through us.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> Love the storks.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 8:56 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
> which are from this trip:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
> festival that takes place annualy in our town
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
> their way south for winter.
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
> lens...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
> - Hills of Galilee
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
> the Sea of Galilee...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
> and got this effect...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
>
> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

Thanks, Malcolm. It was great fun having a bit of rest from work and
taking these pictures. This little Olympus is amazing camera.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> Boris Liberman wrote:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html - under
> the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get some nice
> light and some rather nice scenery too...
> +++
>
> Under The Canopy is my favourite. An interesting gallery.
>
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Boris Liberman]

Thank you, Bulent. In real life it is so much more beautiful :-).

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Bulent Celasun
 wrote:
> Hills of Galilee is my favorite...
>
> Bulent
> -
> http://patoloji.gen.tr
> http://celasun.wordpress.com/
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>
>
> 2016-11-07 21:56 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman :
>> Hi!
>>
>> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
>> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
>> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
>> which are from this trip:
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
>> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
>> festival that takes place annualy in our town
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
>> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
>> their way south for winter.
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
>> lens...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
>> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
>> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
>> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
>> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
>> - Hills of Galilee
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
>> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
>> the Sea of Galilee...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
>> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
>> and got this effect...
>>
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
>> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
>> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
>>
>> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
>> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
>>
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Re: Think tank thoughts?

[Rick Womer]

I am using a Think Tank Urban Disguise 40 (there are several sizes),
and I guess I've had it for 6-8 years. It's more or less "messenger
style." It has held up well, except for the non-slip side of the
shoulder strap (I substituted a black non-slip strap from
goodness-knows-what; it says "LLBean" on the buckle), and the elastic
in the stretch pockets on the ends.

My usual load is a K-5, 16-45, 50-200, and 10-17; though I have
occasionally added a 24-90, a few primes, a flash, and a K-7--which is
to say that it holds a LOT more than I can carry comfortably.

There is a backpack adapter for it (which I have) and it works very
well. I think backpack camera bags are a huge pain, because you have
to take the damned things off to get anything out. For transportation,
okay; for shooting, yuck.

Cheers,

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On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> Commission someone to make a replacement - it wouldn't cost much.
>
> B
>
>> On 6 Nov 2016, at 17:19, P.J. Alling  wrote:
>>
>> I try not to think about bags, or my dissatisfaction level would rise 
>> exponentially.
>>
>> I've got this old bag, that was gifted to me, it's 1970s vintage in a, semi, 
>> messenger style, (I say semi because it's not really, it predates messenger 
>> bags being a thing).  It's the best working bag, if you just want to carry a 
>> couple of lenses one body and a flash, or forgo the flash for a third lens, 
>> I've got, and haven't found a modern bag that's better.  Even thought the 
>> pockets leave something to be desired.
>>
>> It's falling apart and I can't find a replacement.  The worst part is it 
>> probably wasn't even an expensive bag when it was new.
>>
>> I really think bag designers actually design bags to /almost/ fit a 
>> photographers needs so they'll become subtly dissatisfied and go buy another 
>> bag.
>>
>> Damn, now I have to go and have a stiff drink.
>>
>>> On 11/3/2016 6:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> I really like my Lowepro Fastpak 350, however the lenses for the K-1 are 
>>> enough bigger that I can't conveniently carry my "ready for anything" kit 
>>> in it.  The speaker at the photo club last night had a think tank bag 
>>> (streetwalker hard drive), and it looked pretty good.
>>>
>>> Since it's possible that y'all enjoy shopping for and talking about camera 
>>> bags even more than lenses, I'm curious about your opinions on a larger 
>>> backpack style camera bag in general, and the think tank bags in particular.
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: PESO: Watching me

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IIRC, the field of view is nearly 180 degrees. The fovea (area of
greatest sharpness on the retina) is way off-center so that it is
still engaged when looking ahead. I also recall reading that raptors
have the equivalent of 20/4 vision, and it includes UV.

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> Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
> Another sparrow, shot at a modest 1/80th second shutter speed and an ISO of 
> about 1500. That seems to be a fast enough shutter to yield sharp results if 
> the bird is perching. This is with the DA 1.4X converter and the D FA 
> 150-450. The stop is f8 and the focal length is 630 mm.
>
> I always wonder what the bird’s field of vision is like. They must see more 
> than 180 degrees.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18308070&size=lg
> 
>
> They must have good vision around here, as the cat population is so high. 
> Great image, make the use of the warm weather whilst you can, the temperature 
> has dipped noticeably here.
>
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Re: PESO - Glance

[Marco Alpert]

Thanks, Dan!

- Marco

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 9:34 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> That is an interesting and appealing image.
> 
> 
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> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Larry. (I may even have a couple more.)
>> 
>> m
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marco Alpert wrote:
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso31.html
 
 Comments, as always, welcomed.
>>> 
>>> I've lost count, but it seems that you're well on you way with this
>> theme to have enough for a show.
>>> 
 
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Re: PESO - Glance

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is an interesting and appealing image.


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On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:

> Thanks, Larry. (I may even have a couple more.)
>
> m
>
> > On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Marco Alpert wrote:
> >> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso31.html
> >>
> >> Comments, as always, welcomed.
> >
> > I've lost count, but it seems that you're well on you way with this
> theme to have enough for a show.
> >
> >>
> >> -Marco
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Re: PESO - Glance

[Marco Alpert]

Thanks, Larry. (I may even have a couple more.)

m

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Marco Alpert wrote:
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso31.html
>> 
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
> 
> I've lost count, but it seems that you're well on you way with this theme to 
> have enough for a show.
> 
>> 
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Marco Alpert]

Mine too. Beautiful work.

- Marco

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:18 AM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:
> 
> Hills of Galilee is my favorite...
> 
> Bulent
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> 2016-11-07 21:56 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman :
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
>> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
>> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
>> which are from this trip:
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
>> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
>> festival that takes place annualy in our town
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
>> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
>> their way south for winter.
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
>> lens...
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
>> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
>> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
>> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
>> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
>> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
>> - Hills of Galilee
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
>> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
>> the Sea of Galilee...
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
>> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
>> and got this effect...
>> 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
>> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
>> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
>> 
>> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
>> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
>> 
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Re: National Geographic Nature Photographer of the Year finalists...

[Gonz]

They are amazing.  The forest floor with spider webs is my favorite,
but it really is very hard to pick one.


On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Thanks for sharing, PJ.
>
> I find them all quite spectacular.
>
>
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> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 8:05 AM, P.J. Alling 
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>> 20+ seems like a lot of "finalists" to me, but hey it's their contest, the
>> images are of course spectacular, because National Geographic.
>>
>> http://www.boredpanda.com/national-geographic-nature-photogr
>> apher-of-the-year-finalists-2016/
>>
>> Well I don't know they're all spectacular, I'm still paging through but so
>> far...
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Re: National Geographic Nature Photographer of the Year finalists...

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks for sharing, PJ.

I find them all quite spectacular.


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> 20+ seems like a lot of "finalists" to me, but hey it's their contest, the
> images are of course spectacular, because National Geographic.
>
> http://www.boredpanda.com/national-geographic-nature-photogr
> apher-of-the-year-finalists-2016/
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Re: PESO - NOLA at night

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Alan, Dan, Malcolm and Jack for your comments.

Yep, indeed. I have yet another photo, but slightly to the left, so it 
didn't include the Moon. Even though that one was a bit better 
technically, - I preferred this one, with the Moon. It gives some charm to 
the sky.


Igor

PS. Alan, I am still puzzled why you called this "very smart", but thanks 
anyway...



 Alan C Mon, 07 Nov 2016 20:55:58 -0800 wrote:

Very smart. I see you caught Venus & the moon too. Venus ha been quite 
spectacular in the night sky of late.



Alan C

On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I just came back from a conference trip to New Orleans, LA.
It could've been an "iconic" shot, but it was taken only last week:
http://42graphy.org/misc/nola-37814.jpg .
Taken handheld from a boat with K5-iiS and 31/1.8.

All comments and suggestions are welcome.

Igor




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Re: PESOs: Phone vs. Camera

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Igor. I usually airdrop phone pics to my computer and tweak them in 
Photoshop. Much better results than editing with phone software.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:45 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Such a great photo, you must have a great phone!"
> ;-)
> 
> On a serious note, - it looks like the phone is more prone to flare and it 
> may have lower dynamic range. Colors from K-1 seem to be reacher.
> 
> Both a very nice images. That's the Golden Fall that I love.
> Thanks for sharing, Paul!
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:35:22 -0700 wrote:
> 
> Well, sort of phone vs. camera.  But this is by no means a controlled 
> experiment. When walking to work this morning (I go out the front door, walk 
> a mile, go back in the front door, and open my office) I came up on some nice 
> fall color in good light. I shot it with my phone and tweaked it quite a bit 
> in photoshop before posting it on Facebook. Ann quite correctly said I should 
> shoot some fall color with a real camera, so I did just that this afternoon. 
> Unfortunately, the good light was gone but I did get a bit of hay bright. I 
> also shot with a much longer foal length to compress the scene.
> 
> 
> Here’s the iPhone 6 Plus pic, photoshopped and cropped just a bit:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306458&size=lg
> 
> Here’s the k-1 and  DA* 60-250 pic, shot at 118 mm, f11
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306456&size=lg
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Re: PESOs: Phone vs. Camera

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Yep, still in Michigan. We had very little snow last winter. I hope this year 
is a repeat.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Interesting comparison of color
> rendering.
> Incidentally, where are you living
> now? Still in Michigan? If so, that
> scene will soon be covered in white. :)
> 
> J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 5:45 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> "Such a great photo, you must have a great phone!"
>> ;-)
>> 
>> On a serious note, - it looks like the phone is more prone to flare and it 
>> may have lower dynamic range. Colors from K-1 seem to be reacher.
>> 
>> Both a very nice images. That's the Golden Fall that I love.
>> Thanks for sharing, Paul!
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> Paul Stenquist Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:35:22 -0700 wrote:
>> 
>> Well, sort of phone vs. camera.  But this is by no means a controlled 
>> experiment. When walking to work this morning (I go out the front door, walk 
>> a mile, go back in the front door, and open my office) I came up on some 
>> nice fall color in good light. I shot it with my phone and tweaked it quite 
>> a bit in photoshop before posting it on Facebook. Ann quite correctly said I 
>> should shoot some fall color with a real camera, so I did just that this 
>> afternoon. Unfortunately, the good light was gone but I did get a bit of hay 
>> bright. I also shot with a much longer foal length to compress the scene.
>> 
>> 
>> Here’s the iPhone 6 Plus pic, photoshopped and cropped just a bit:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306458&size=lg
>> 
>> Here’s the k-1 and  DA* 60-250 pic, shot at 118 mm, f11
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306456&size=lg
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Re: PESOs: Phone vs. Camera

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Interesting comparison of color
rendering.
Incidentally, where are you living
now? Still in Michigan? If so, that
scene will soon be covered in white. :)

J

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> "Such a great photo, you must have a great phone!"
> ;-)
> 
> On a serious note, - it looks like the phone is more prone to flare and it 
> may have lower dynamic range. Colors from K-1 seem to be reacher.
> 
> Both a very nice images. That's the Golden Fall that I love.
> Thanks for sharing, Paul!
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:35:22 -0700 wrote:
> 
> Well, sort of phone vs. camera.  But this is by no means a controlled 
> experiment. When walking to work this morning (I go out the front door, walk 
> a mile, go back in the front door, and open my office) I came up on some nice 
> fall color in good light. I shot it with my phone and tweaked it quite a bit 
> in photoshop before posting it on Facebook. Ann quite correctly said I should 
> shoot some fall color with a real camera, so I did just that this afternoon. 
> Unfortunately, the good light was gone but I did get a bit of hay bright. I 
> also shot with a much longer foal length to compress the scene.
> 
> 
> Here’s the iPhone 6 Plus pic, photoshopped and cropped just a bit:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306458&size=lg
> 
> Here’s the k-1 and  DA* 60-250 pic, shot at 118 mm, f11
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306456&size=lg
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Re: PESOs: Phone vs. Camera

[Igor PDML-StR]

"Such a great photo, you must have a great phone!"
;-)

On a serious note, - it looks like the phone is more prone to flare and it 
may have lower dynamic range. Colors from K-1 seem to be reacher.


Both a very nice images. That's the Golden Fall that I love.
Thanks for sharing, Paul!

Igor


Paul Stenquist Thu, 03 Nov 2016 12:35:22 -0700 wrote:

Well, sort of phone vs. camera.  But this is by no means a controlled 
experiment. When walking to work this morning (I go out the front door, 
walk a mile, go back in the front door, and open my office) I came up on 
some nice fall color in good light. I shot it with my phone and tweaked it 
quite a bit in photoshop before posting it on Facebook. Ann quite 
correctly said I should shoot some fall color with a real camera, so I did 
just that this afternoon. Unfortunately, the good light was gone but I did 
get a bit of hay bright. I also shot with a much longer foal length to 
compress the scene.



Here’s the iPhone 6 Plus pic, photoshopped and cropped just a bit:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306458&size=lg

Here’s the k-1 and  DA* 60-250 pic, shot at 118 mm, f11
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18306456&size=lg

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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[ann sanfedele]

I like that one a lot too, but also the three flying cranes (Boris, are 
those white napedcranes?) and the view of the town that's name starts with R


(I just lost the link or Id look)

ann


On 11/8/2016 4:28 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Boris Liberman wrote:

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html - under
the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get some nice
light and some rather nice scenery too...
+++

Under The Canopy is my favourite. An interesting gallery.

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National Geographic Nature Photographer of the Year finalists...

[P.J. Alling]

20+ seems like a lot of "finalists" to me, but hey it's their contest, 
the images are of course spectacular, because National Geographic.


http://www.boredpanda.com/national-geographic-nature-photographer-of-the-year-finalists-2016/

Well I don't know they're all spectacular, I'm still paging through but 
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Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'

[Jack Davis]

He could use a "deicing station." 

J

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Thanks Bruce.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'


> Simply gorgeous, Ken.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>> Its a Darner of undetermined Genus. (possibly a Fawn Darner)
>>
>> Taken late Auguest in the U P of Michigan in Seney National Wildlife 
>> Reserve
>> on a dewey, cool, early morning with K3, 200mm f4.0 ED  Macro SMCP A*. 
>> 1/25
>> s at f4.0, 400 ISO.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307675
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Jack Davis]

Enjoyed these, Bulent! Favorite,"Under the Canopy!"

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Hills of Galilee is my favorite...

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2016-11-07 21:56 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman :
> Hi!
>
> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
> which are from this trip:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
> festival that takes place annualy in our town
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
> their way south for winter.
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
> lens...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
> - Hills of Galilee
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
> the Sea of Galilee...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
> and got this effect...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
>
> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
>
> --
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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

[Eric Weir]

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> It's about the same size as a Pentax ME-Super. A little bigger than that, not 
> as big as an LX. They are not a big camera. Couple it with a 35mm f/2 WR and 
> you have a very compact high quality camera

That’s the combo I’m lusting for. 

Meantime I get by with a Fuji XQI. Only one dial for shooting mode. Everything 
else controlled from buttons on the back, which are programmable, and the 
menus. No viewfinder, which I’ve gotten used to—except in bright sun. But I get 
astounding images—to me anyway—with it. 

Here's one from the state cross country championship here last weekend. 
 
The X-Q1 was my “wide angle” lens for this occasion. I shot the races with my 
K-5 and a DA 4-5.6/50-200 ED WR. Here’s one of my favorites with that combo 
.

FWIW, the team I’ve been following were state champs in their division for the 
third year running. All the kids are refugees. (Yes, I know, I’ve gone 
off-topic here.)

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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice work, Boris. Love the hills of Gallilee 

Paul via phone

> On Nov 8, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Love the storks.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 8:56 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
> which are from this trip:
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
> festival that takes place annualy in our town
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
> their way south for winter.
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
> lens...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
> - Hills of Galilee
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
> the Sea of Galilee...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
> and got this effect...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
> 
> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
> 
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Alan C]

Love the storks.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Boris Liberman

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 8:56 PM
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Subject: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

Hi!

I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
which are from this trip:

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
- different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
festival that takes place annualy in our town

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
their way south for winter.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
- Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
lens...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
- coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
- Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
- Hills of Galilee

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
- Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
the Sea of Galilee...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
and got this effect...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...

Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
PESOs in particular for quite some while...

--
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Re: PESO - NOLA at night

[Jack Davis]

I agree, very nice image!

J

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> On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:42 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> Igor wrote:
> 
> http://42graphy.org/misc/nola-37814.jpg 
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> 
> The water is great too, nice image.
> 
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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/11/16, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>More size hints:
>
>http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/xt-1pron1.html

That is horny!

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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/11/16, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I think the message there is buy an MX...

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Re: Thoughts: pocketable compact with filmic ergonomics?

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On 7/11/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I've been
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RE: PESO - NOLA at night

[Malcolm Smith]

Igor wrote:

http://42graphy.org/misc/nola-37814.jpg 


The water is great too, nice image.

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RE: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'

[Malcolm Smith]

Ken Waller wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307675
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Exceptional - really like this.

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RE: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

[Malcolm Smith]

Boris Liberman wrote:

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html - under
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Re: PESO - 'Not ready for takeoff'

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Beautiful colors and an unusual, fresh view of the creature.

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2016-11-08 4:14 GMT+03:00 Ken Waller :
> Its a Darner of undetermined Genus. (possibly a Fawn Darner)
>
> Taken late Auguest in the U P of Michigan in Seney National Wildlife Reserve
> on a dewey, cool, early morning with K3, 200mm f4.0 ED  Macro SMCP A*.  1/25
> s at f4.0, 400 ISO.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18307675
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> Comments ?
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Re: Boris, a whole bunch of PESOs

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Hills of Galilee is my favorite...

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2016-11-07 21:56 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman :
> Hi!
>
> I haven't been posting for a long while. Just recently we returned
> from a whole week that we've spent in Galilee, Golan Heights and other
> interesting places in Northern Israel. Here are a dozen PESOs, most of
> which are from this trip:
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-33-different-interests.html
> - different interests - one last PESO from the Live Sculptures
> festival that takes place annualy in our town
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-34-in-flight.html - in
> flight - some very fascinating birds are passing through Israel on
> their way south for winter.
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-35-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - I certainly do wish I had a way longer
> lens...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-36-coming-in-for-landing.html
> - coming in for landing - thought the symmetry was nice here...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-37-in-flight.html - in
> flight - after a long hiatus, my good friend lended me his Panasonic
> 35-100/2.8 (EFL 70-200) lens... I had great time with it...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-38-hula-valley-nature-reserve.html
> - Hula Valley Nature Reserve - Golan Heights on the background
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-39-rehaniya.html -
> Rehaniya - Circassian village, excellent food there :-).
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-40-hills-of-galilee.html
> - Hills of Galilee
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-41-gamla-nature-reserve.html
> - Gamla Nature Reserve - on the far background, you can probably see
> the Sea of Galilee...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-42-banias-stream.html -
> Banias stream - the IBIS of my camera is exceptional... Shot handheld
> and got this effect...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2016/11/2016-43-under-canopy.html -
> under the canopy - we don't have golden autumn per se here, but we get
> some nice light and some rather nice scenery too...
>
> Sorry for such a big post, but I haven't been posting in general and
> PESOs in particular for quite some while...
>
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Re: Advice on large format photography

[Bulent Celasun]

Thanks Steve,

Actually, I am having an in-between period.
Working 3 days a week.
The days I spend at home did not turn out to be as productive as I imagined.
I have plans & dreams and.. I have my fears that they will remain like that!

Bulent

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2016-11-08 1:30 GMT+03:00 Steve Cottrell :
> On 7/11/16, Bulent Celasun, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I am about to retire...
>
> I am envious! And about 18 months behind you.
>
> Good luck!
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Re: Advice on large format photography

[Bulent Celasun]

Collin,

Thank you very much for your detailed, informative advice.

A print size of 16x20 (say, 40x50 cm) is surely big enough for me.
That makes the whole idea of LF rather suspect especially since
I can have "some movement", when needed, with the GX680.

>My thoughts are then:
>First) 4x5. You'll be able to do medium format as well as sheet film.
>Not very heavy but holders can be bulky.

(Un)fortunately no 4x5 is available locally.. as yet!

>Second) Medium format will let you do everything a 4x5 will.
>More weight on the hardware side, less work in the darkroom.

Sounds logical... again...

>Third) 8x10. Make your time worthwhile and just print contacts.
>You'll not be disappointed.
>But you'll spend a bunch per shot so make 'em count.

This reminds me of -once again- "the price"...
Decreasing income & rising prices for a "hobby"...

Oh well..

...

Bulent





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2016-11-07 21:11 GMT+03:00 Collin B :
>> I should be grateful indeed if you could share your experiences and
>>give me some advice on this.
>>Or, in other words, would you like to push me or stop me?
>>
>>Bulent
>
> I would recommend against a 5x7 camera for practical reasons.
> 1) if you're shooting 4x5, the camera is a lot bigger
> 2) if you're able to find 5x7 film ... good for you. It's hard to find.
> You'll end up with a bulky 4x5.
>
> That said ...
> 4x5 results are awesome.
> 8x10 is, too.
>
> But ... up to 16x20 it's tough to see the different between a quality medium
> format shot (like a Blad, Mamiya RZ, or Fuji) and a 4x5.
> So if you're printing 11x14 and you're not needing to do any lens movements
> a medium format might be a better bet.
> If you're shooting landscapes or table-top stills where you want some rise
> or tilt, then consider a 4x5 body with a roll back.
> But then you'll have to spend a good amount on quality lenses lest your
> shots look a bit low in contrast or detail.  (IOW, avoid the old 50s & 60s
> vintage Schneiders.)
>
> Of course a medium format with everything might be the Fuji GX680 series.
> Quality glass and solid hardware. Plus all the movements you'll probably
> need.  And it's a lot easier to process file medium format negs.
>
> My thoughts are then:
> First) 4x5. You'll be able to do medium format as well as sheet film. Not
> very heavy but holders can be bulky.
> Second) Medium format will let you do everything a 4x5 will. More weight on
> the hardware side, less work in the darkroom.
> Third) 8x10. Make your time worthwhile and just print contacts. You'll not
> be disappointed. But you'll spend a bunch per shot so make 'em count.
>
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Re: Advice on large format photography

[Bulent Celasun]

Dear Boris,

Many thanks for the offer.
I have a handful of (!) medium formats around and I find it difficult
to behave like a logical creature.
Extremely difficult...
That is the problem :(

Bulent
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2016-11-07 14:32 GMT+03:00 Boris Liberman :
> Bulent,
>
> I have 6x6 folder laying around... Can be yours if you feel like it.
>
> On 7 Nov 2016 12:48, "Bulent Celasun"  wrote:
>
>> I am about to retire...
>>
>> I will be having (hopefully) more time to devote to myself.
>> And myself considers reading / writing / photographing more
>> productively in the coming years.
>> Incidentally, I can get a 5x7 Arca Swiss (older type) in very good
>> condition with a new bellows for an acceptable (not very low) price.
>> The lens is a 180/5.6 Schneider.
>> A lens plate for macrophotography for mounting a reversed enlarger
>> lens may be supplied later.
>> The rear standard well be equipped with 4x5 adapter (film is a lot
>> easier to find for this) and probably another one for Fuji GX680. I
>> happen to have a Fuji GX680 to Hasselblad CFV-39 digital back...
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I should be grateful indeed if you could share your experiences and
>> give me some advice on this.
>> Or, in other words, would you like to push me or stop me?
>>
>> Bulent
>>
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Re: Advice on large format photography

[Bulent Celasun]

Alan,

>I sure hope it works out that way, Bulent.
>I seem to have been so busy in rtirement I sometimes wonder how I ever found 
>time to work.

Thanks, Alan,

I understand you well and I have my fears.
Even now, days seem to past to fast when I remain home!

I can only hope that it works out -at least in part- that way...

Bulent
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2016-11-07 14:16 GMT+03:00 Alan C :
> I sure hope it works out that way, Bulent. I seem to have been so busy in
> rtirement I sometimes wonder how I ever found time to work.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Bulent Celasun
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:47 PM
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> Subject: Advice on large format photography
>
>
> I am about to retire...
>
> I will be having (hopefully) more time to devote to myself.
> And myself considers reading / writing / photographing more
> productively in the coming years.
> Incidentally, I can get a 5x7 Arca Swiss (older type) in very good
> condition with a new bellows for an acceptable (not very low) price.
> The lens is a 180/5.6 Schneider.
> A lens plate for macrophotography for mounting a reversed enlarger
> lens may be supplied later.
> The rear standard well be equipped with 4x5 adapter (film is a lot
> easier to find for this) and probably another one for Fuji GX680. I
> happen to have a Fuji GX680 to Hasselblad CFV-39 digital back...
>
> ...
>
> I should be grateful indeed if you could share your experiences and
> give me some advice on this.
> Or, in other words, would you like to push me or stop me?
>
> Bulent
>
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